In a September 2005 interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, by contrast, Turner found North Korea and its leader Kim Jong-il worthy of praise after visiting the country the previous month: "I am absolutely convinced that the North Koreans are absolutely sincere. … You know, just because somebody's done something wrong in the past doesn't mean they can't do right in the future or the present. That happens all the, all the time. … in the pictures that I've seen of him Jong-il on CNN, he didn't look too much different than most other people. … I saw a lot of people over there. They were thin and they were riding bicycles instead of driving in cars, but … I didn't see any brutality…"