This distinction, by which the words "oriental" and "eastern" that in themselves have exactly the same meaning but are used as labels to describe two different realities, is impossible to translate in most other languages, and is not universally accepted even in English. These churches are also referred to as "pre-Chalcedonian" or now more rarely as "non-Chalcedonian" or "anti-Chalcedonian". In languages other than English other means are used to distinguish the two families of Churches. Some reserve the term "Orthodox" for those that are here called "Eastern Orthodox" Churches, but members of what are called "Oriental Orthodox" Churches consider this illicit.