also, look for thorns on the stems. line a 12 cup muffin pan with muffin cases. when we were greeted at check-in with champagne, we knew this was our kind of tour. and this time i am going to make time to take the class to find out all this machine can do. it’s like, taking a product that already exists. the cause of the hold up was not the system – it was me. give her a try & i know you will call her again!! ( i can always rely on him for the bald truth!) 