two young men – one sitting in the other comfy chair – are discussing something. this means that you may use as much clay as you like each time you come in to work and then you decide what you would like to keep and fire. i made things feel too hard, so we are just going to work on that in training. i charge money for my services, so it’s perfectly fair to want to understand what value i bring. that's fine he seems nice when you first meet him but he can be a real pain. 