i hope i did not wear out too much of my workshop artists those three days. it was quite crowded when we went. good examples appear all the time for non-ads that attract a lot of positive attention. as far as shooting this show, it was really dark but you know like i said i guess bands these days just like it that way. but it might be a better investment. and you know, when i first found it, we loved it, we hope you are too. i bet that is one loud place to be during races! can't wait hear all about it! 