that she was in high school when her grandmother died, that gives you a five-year window of when someone died. a lot of times people come to the desk and they say they have no idea, but they remember being seven at the funeral, so that gives you a pretty good idea. or maybe your family member remembers [that] at a funeral there was only one aunt left, the rest had died. it really helps you narrow down the generations. a lot of people get hung up on the fact they don’t have exact dates, but they don’t need exact dates, just general times. we can work with that.
jo: okay. 