i’m frankly surprised he walked away with the $175k+ loss before it got any worse. of those, all are quite wonderful. when you list your car, be honest in your description. and they seem to act giddy when someone is willing to speak the truth, even about the church. this is a wonderful piece of a gift set that you can gift your loved ones. i think this could have honestly been a reasonable idea. the service you get from them is disgusting, they make sure to take your money every month, so in other words i am paying for a service i don't get. 