the same thing with type, you don't have to do anything to it. now i'm going to make mine nice and big. i'm going to go up to 'effect', go to 'warp'. and i'm going to play around with it again. make sure preview's on, yours might not be on by default. upper arc is not working for me. what it's doing as well, it's trying to remember the last thing i did with this. i want to kind of get it back to 0, so i'm going to put you at '0'. you at '0'. and put the bend back this side. and now start playing around with them, 