`` that kind of ruins it , when you say something like that , '' i said , trying to keep my voice gentle . but i dont even watch that show . when had she stopped talking to him about her dreams ? this seems to catch his attention . i gave the stew a quick stir and came over to stand behind her as she sat by the fire , laying my hands on those shoulders and kneading them gently . `` i 'm going to try this a couple more times . '' 