i typically do them after i run/cycle as part of my cool-down. will you kindly drop me a e-mail? i would not have to fear being yelled at like a child, i was a grown up and as such i could share like one and not worry that the people who loved me would turn me away. customers need to be able to rely upon their auto insurance provider to give them capable and predictable service that keeps them safe and is there when they need it the most. getting back into the boat was a nightmare in itself. 