i also searched the web for tips but found none that worked. how long a turtle can survive with no access to food also depends upon his stored fat pads. and snap to the curved die as well - i have that and have seldom used it either but it came in handy with this sketch! this, again, must meet the requirements of your engine. then for an additional 1 minute at a time until it is just done. no doctor/patient relationship is established by your use of this site. usually it is in the evening time. 