i appreciate your help and thanks again! however, the most important benefit of all is that you create chaos by changing the balance of power. we slept early because we had to wake up early the next day. but now forever stained scarlet with blood, from that vicious fight. the next person i met was a young lady at a music store. we put my name on it. on the same tour, he met dan bull, who was apparently up for it. in humility they bow down to each other. just a list of the roads and order will do. 