for running errands or just chilling out, these cigarette trousers are great. please print clearly and be as complete as possible. once again, the answer is that it depends. i used vintage rose seam binding sewed to the center for tying the rings on. it just makes me happy for you. as for this plan, it is absolutely stunning, but not overly practical. as we sat eating, mark said he thought we were pretty much done with clearing out the basement. they are young and life is exciting, things should be easy. 