in my opinion both color and black and white work well when using international camera movement. go ahead and try it for free. however, like thomas said, some of them may actually help. on the floor of the machine shop, you can see the difference clearly in the sweat, grease, and #2 pencils sharpened down to the stubs. my friends mean the world to me. thanks again for the excellent advice. well i think that is it for now! paste the shapes inside and move/scale them to fit. are people good at providing feedback on areas for improvement in a constructive way? 