i think he was a great president and hated the way he was treated sometimes. and, i often don't have the heart to platter them either because each one is such an exquisite piece of art. hold the position for 5-10 seconds. the material is fairly thin and perfect for cool mornings but probably too light as stand-alone head wear for serious cold weather the brim provides just enough shade. these can come in various styles and colors. lots of us say this because we truly want to do it. 