these rods work perfectly for the old style of punches and i recently found that the hanging wire baskets that you can get to go with them are just the right size for the new slim style of punches. when fire and water damage strikes, a fast response is critical. this one is a much quicker read. try to imagine the border of the game is smaller than it actually is. there is nothing better than being surrounded by nothing but trees, breathing in the fresh air with no one else around. we are always adding fun activities for the whole family! 