Chinese Democracy track in the beginning, but then, when it kicked in, it was that same dramatic Guns N' Roses hard rock." In mid-2003, Guns N' Roses reportedly started rerecording the album again. An editor from antiMUSIC said Rose told him in June 2003 that "he wants to make sure it is a perfect as possible before it is released". In 2004, Stinson said "Chinese Democracy" was "almost done" and had been delayed by "legal issues" and because Rose wanted to ensure every band member had a say in each song: "It's a lengthy process because you have to get eight people
The Long Winters by a month of shows in the USA and Canada. In July 2008 the band went back into the studio to work on their fourth (yet untitled) album. In mid-2009 through early-2010, a satiric "quasi-weekly" 9 episode series by Roderick entitled "13 Songs with John" was made available through YouTube ostensibly focusing on the work he was doing in the studio. None of the episodes actually featured Roderick working in the studio. Through 2011, Roderick, through The Long Winters website, continues to promise the long-awaited new album will be released "soon." The Long Winters released a split single with Spiral