Dating creation for the creation by using ancient sources or records of mythological figures. Since Inachus was dated 400 years after the flood of Ogyges and that Ogyges himself was considered a Titan or a primordial Autochthon "from earliest ages", some ancient Greek or Romans dated the creation (beginning with Chaos or Gaia) only a few hundred years before Ogyges (2376–2050 BC). Most ancient Greeks, however, did not subscribe to such a literalist view of using mythology to attempt to date the creation; Hecataeus of Miletus was an early ancient Greek logographer who strongly criticised this method, while Ptolemy wrote of such
Religions of the Discworld through sound alone, if a coin has come up heads or tails. When he has completed his training, he is expected to know what colour it is. By the time of "Soul Music", they have discovered that the sound that brought the universe into being was not a Word, but a musical chord ("the ultimate power chord"). They continue to listen, as they can just make out sound that "preceded" the creation of the universe, and may put the chord into context. It says in "Soul Music" that the greatest listeners have determined that the sound before the creation of