Carl and the Passions – "So Tough" John penned liner notes for the 2000 CD reissue, writing: 'This is an album which I have loved for a long time... "Carl and the Passions: So Tough" has moments of breathtaking genius and experimentation. When this record was released, I remember how different and fresh it sounded. It still does'. English Britpop band Saint Etienne used the title "So Tough" for their 1993 album as an homage to the Beach Boys. Likewise, they also named their compilation of the same year, "You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone", after the Beach Boys song. Track notes per 2000
The Killer and the Star with Toby McDonald. He was true to his word as the album was released on July 14, 2009. To date it is the only album released by the outfit, with Ward electing to focus on Cold's reunion. "The Killer and The Star" (2009) The Killer and the Star The Killer and the Star is a musical solo project started by Scooter Ward, frontman of the band Cold. Originally named "The Witch", the band name was changed to "When November Falls" in November 2006, before any work had been done. In March 2008 the band again changed its name to its