Redemptive suffering Redemptive suffering Redemptive suffering is the Christian belief that human suffering, when accepted and offered up in union with the Passion of Jesus, can remit the just punishment for one's sins or for the sins of another, or for the other physical or spiritual needs of oneself or another. Like an indulgence, redemptive suffering does not gain the individual "forgiveness" for their sin; forgiveness results from God’s grace, freely given through Christ, which cannot be earned. After one's sins are forgiven, the individual's suffering can reduce the "penalty" due for sin. Christians believe that God loves mankind so much that
Jesus Christians Parry claim they have been excommunicated at this time from all correspondence with other members at the behest of McKay, for objecting to changes in the dishonest manner in which the group is to operate. Another member, Alan Wright, is also disfellowshipped from the group for refusing to comply with dictates from the groups leadership regarding not suing his wife for more money in a divorce settlement. Since the founder David Mckay´s announcement in 2010 of either disbandment or graduation or dispersal, there is some confusion with regard to the continuing organisation of members of Jesus Christians. Roland and Susan