Euchre to 9 are counted similarly by counting the number of suit symbols showing and adding them to the 5, if cards are crossed. In Canada and Michigan, it is common for each team to use two 5s of the same colour to keep score, making one team red and the other black. The 5s are usually referred to as counting cards in this situation. The explanation for why a visual score is kept is due to euchre traditionally being a game played late at night or by people who have been drinking, which is also shown by cheating and stealing
Pinochle and is forbidden. There are occasionally different meld values for a run and a pinochle; a run being 250 or 150 points, and a pinochle being 150 or 40 points. All other aspects of the game generally remain the same. Technical Misdeal If a player is dealt 13 or more non-counters and no aces, the player may declare a technical misdeal. This must declared before he or she plays the first trick. A technical misdeal nullifies all points melded for all players. The hand is then re-dealt by the original dealer of that hand. In triple-deck pinochle six play in