Maureen Cleave Maureen Cleave Maureen Cleave (born October 20, 1941) is an English journalist who worked for the London "Evening Standard" from the 1960s conducting interviews with famous musicians of the era, including Bob Dylan and John Lennon. Over the next 40 years she continued as a distinguished interviewer of people in all walks of life, in the "Standard", the "Telegraph Magazine", "Saga" magazine, "Intelligent Life" magazine and elsewhere. In her "Standard" interview with Lennon on 4 March 1966, titled "How does a Beatle live?", she quoted him as saying that the Beatles were "more popular than Jesus now". Five months later,
Fifth Beatle the "fifth Beatle", but over the years he and producer George Martin have clearly been recognised as the inner circle members who most profoundly affected the band's career. In an interview in the 1990s describing Epstein's involvement in the band's rise to fame, Martin declared "He's the fifth Beatle, if there ever was one." McCartney summarized the importance of Epstein to the Beatles when he was interviewed in 1997 for a BBC documentary about Epstein. He stated: "If anyone was the fifth Beatle, it was Brian." In 2013 Epstein was the subject of a graphic novel entitled "The Fifth Beatle"