Cathay that now they "were" living in the Great Cathay. This all made them quite convinced that Cathay is indeed China. China-based Jesuits promptly informed their colleagues in Goa (Portuguese India) and Europe about their discovery of the Cathay-China identity. This was stated e.g. in a 1602 letter of Ricci's comrade Diego de Pantoja, which was published in Europe along with other Jesuits' letters in 1605. The Jesuits in India, however, were not convinced, because, according to their informants (merchants who visited the Mughal capitals Agra and Lahore), Cathay – a country that could be reached via Kashgar – had a
Cathay de Grande as "The most dangerous club in America". Due to problems with neighbors, violence caused in part by punk gangs such as the LADS gang, Suicidal Tendencies, FFF and HRP, and legal problems related to business conflicts, the Cathay de Grande closed in 1985 with Violent Psychosis, The Mentors with El Duce and Circle Jerks performing the farewell show. Shortly before, Danny "Dobbs" Wilson, the booker at the Cathay de Grande, started Raji's a block to the north on Hollywood Boulevard. In 1983, The Mentors released an album entitled "Live at the Whisky A Go-Go/Cathay De Grande"" which consisted of two