First things first: these are not black and white as the photos suggest, they are beige and black, which was a disappointment when they arrived. i can still wear white shirts with them, but had they actually been b/w, i think they'd be more versatile in terms of possible shirt colors. that said, they are well-made, and the waistband and pocket detailing is nicely done. i love loose-fitting rayon pants and these are just that (mine fit a little looser than the model's fit). i ordered a small and