title: How do js mvc libraries like spine, backbone, jsmvc integrate into a Server based MVC framework like lithium or zend?
body: <p>My specific question is that I would like links to references so that I can learn/research the question title, not spark a debate about the features or which one is better.  I have found <a href="http://javascriptmvc.com/index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">jsMVC</a> , <a href="http://maccman.github.com/spine/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">spine</a> , and <a href="http://embeddedjs.com/getting_started.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">EJS</a> but am not familiar with what place they hold in the MVC pattern.  Aren't they basically just views themselves since they handle rendering ? so does that mean a client MVC is like a sub pattern with the V of the server MVC ?  Links that provide background and theory on how these client side libraries work inside/with a traditional server side framework would be helpful.</p>
  
  <p>Thanks!</p>
  
  <p>As I was writing this I read <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1800775/is-it-a-good-idea-to-combine-an-ajax-ui-js-framework-ext-jquery-ui-with-an-mvc/1800840#1800840">this answer</a> and this type of answer helps, more like it with reference links would be great.</p>