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[Assistant] His ship, the Dutch vessel De Liefde, had wrecked in Kyushu in 1600, one of the first Protestant vessels to arrive in this new world.


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[Assistant] He had come from a world torn in two by sectarian struggle. European wars of reformation that had been bubbling for almost a century. Neither side, Catholic nor Protestant, could strike a decisive blow.


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[Assistant] The upstart heretic protestants needed to be wiped out, and their memory expunged from history. And rivers of gold and silver were needed to maintain the armies and armadas, which would do just that.


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[Assistant] The protestants themselves did not feel much like reverting to the old faith, and would fight to the last to maintain their beliefs. But they were pressed ever harder militarily, and economic blockades bit tight.


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[Assistant] They saw the source of the wealth that drove the Catholic war machine and determined that they too would tap these riches. The prime Protestant movers were the Dutch and the English.


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[Assistant] At first, ambitious and ruthless men of Elizabeth I's court like Drake, Hawkins, Cavendish and Raleigh


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[Assistant] Today, among England's most revered national heroes,


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[Assistant] ...turned pirate and raided Catholic settlements and ships in the Atlantic, pillaging and burning from Florida to Brazil.


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[Assistant] Francis Drake achieved the second planetary circumnavigation when the threat of Spanish attack persuaded him to cross the Pacific rather than running the Atlantic gauntlet once more.


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[Assistant] In doing so, he named what is now California, Nova Albion, before swiftly sailing away, no doubt much to the confusion of the local peoples.


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[Assistant] And Thomas Cavendish, in the course of the very first planned circumnavigation, very nearly reached China and Japan in 1587.


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[Assistant] But it was Adams, at the dawning of the 17th century, who was to finally infiltrate the distant land.


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[Assistant] His first few days had been consumed by escaping execution.


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[Assistant] The vile, treacherous Jesuits trying to whisper lies of piracy into the ears of the Emperor.


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[Assistant] But Japan's ruler Tokugawa Ieyasu had proved uninterested in barbarian squabbles, and far more interested in milking this new kind of barbarian for as much intelligence as possible.


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[Assistant] He had been fascinated to hear how much information about Europe the Jesuits had kept from him. In particular, that Catholicism was not in fact the universal religion, as they had always claimed.


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[Assistant] Adams had been naturalized, granted two swords, the mark of a samurai, a large fief, a wife, and the extremely rare right of personal audience with his new lord.


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[Assistant] He rose swiftly in the Shogun's ranks, court interpreter, trusted advisor, shipbuilder, and gunnery officer.


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[Assistant] He had a remarkable talent in the art of gunnery and instructed a great number of soldiers in this art, which caused him to be highly esteemed.


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[Assistant] He is, perhaps, the most famous foreign-born samurai in history.


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[Assistant] The Catholics had been right to fear this moment, and what little trust Japan's rulers had had in them finally trickled away, as no doubt Adams and other Protestant visitors wasted no time in highlighting the Jesuits' bending of the rules.


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[Assistant] Soon, the new English and Dutch East India companies had set up trading posts. And by late 1613,


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[Assistant] Ieyasu had decided to act against the Jesuits.


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[Assistant] He ordered one of his chief advisors, the Zen prelate Isshin Suden, to draft up a manifesto of exactly what spiritual life in Japan comprised. And what it did not.


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[Assistant] Japan was Shinkoku, the realm of its own divinities and spirits, the Kami.


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[Assistant] Perveyors of Jakku, pernicious creeds, must leave the realm.


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[Assistant] This not only comprised Catholics, but also other antisocial groups, including radical Buddhists.


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[Assistant] The first steps were deportation of fanatical foreign clerics with their most important disciples in 1614, and tolerance of common and non-extremist believers who were encouraged to revise their mistaken doctrines.


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[Assistant] And indeed, as most of the Catholics, numbering around 300,000, only slightly short of the modern figure with a population now 10 times the size, had been ordered to convert by their liege lords, often being baptized in groups of thousands, this caused few problems.


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[Assistant] And yet, it turned out that the Portuguese were not quite as devout as the Japanese had believed.


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[Assistant] Japanese silver meant as much, perhaps more, to them and trade continued much as before.


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[Assistant] However, illicit missionaries continued to arrive, and a hardcore of stubborn Japanese Catholics seemed reluctant to abandon their nefarious doctrines.


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[Assistant] The government saw that after centuries of bloodshed had warped Japan's very fabric, the unity and peace of the realm had to be maintained. Torture. It would have to be.


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[Assistant] It is said that the people who did not want to apostatize were put naked into rice bags which were piled along the river between Shijo and Gojo.


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[Assistant] Who laughed a lot at this and freed them from their bags.


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[Assistant] Eventually, all Catholics, Japanese, Asian, African, and European, were expelled or annihilated.


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[Assistant] Japanese Christian refugee communities popped up all over Asia.


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[Assistant] And small groups and individuals travelled the world. One of these intrepid people was Petro Kibay.


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[Assistant] Kibay stumbled down the side of the ship to a waiting skiff. It was all that he could do to hold on.


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[Assistant] The voyage via Malacca and southern India had been the worst experience of his life.


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[Assistant] Expelled from his home in 1614 for his heretical Catholic beliefs, he had watched the sea forlornly throughout his voyage.


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[Assistant] Many of the crew had died, and in Goa, the hospital's meager beds would swiftly fill with sick survivors. Of one thing, Kibay was sure. He was not getting on a floating coffin like that again.


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[Assistant] On discharge from the hospital, he walked out and kept walking. Nearly three years later, he reached Jerusalem.


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[Assistant] His route and his adventures are lost to history, but it is thought he walked via Baghdad.


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[Assistant] The first Japanese person to visit Palestine must have been shattered. And he reluctantly took ship through Rome.


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[Assistant] Where he was ordained in 1620, finally fulfilling the reason for his earth-spanning odyssey.


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[Assistant] Now Father Kibay, he took a more conventional passage home, eventually reaching Japan in 1630.


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[Assistant] Able to blend in better than other missionaries, he managed to evade capture for nine years while wandering the land, tending to forlorn Catholic communities.


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[Assistant] During the inevitable Anna Tsurushi torture, he so incensed the guards by encouraging his fellow sufferers not to recant, that they pulled him out of the death pit and ran him through.


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[Assistant] Kibay was far from the earliest visitor to the far west. Indeed, the first Japanese embassy to Europe had been decades before.


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[Assistant] Led by the later Jesuit Mencio Ito in 1582, it had been organized by Otomo Sorin, Daimyo, an early adopter of Catholicism.


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[Assistant] After meeting founding Jesuit Francis Xavier way back in 1551.


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[Assistant] The mission met two popes and numerous heads of state, leaving a remarkable document curated by Valignano himself to extol the virtues of the distant continent to the people back home.


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[Assistant] You will come to appreciate how wealthy and powerful the kingdoms of Europe are. But it is certain that the smallest European kingdoms contain at least 80 or 100 leagues, which equals 150 of ours. And with regard to the population and wealth of European cities and towns, they were so great as to leave us astonished.


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[Assistant] In 1613, a second European embassy followed, led by Hasakura Sunenaga, making a stop in South America, becoming the first Japanese embassy to set foot in the New World, and spawning the remarkable story of a sword fight between samurai and Spaniards on arrival to Acapulco.


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[Assistant] And indeed, following this, Japanese men that settled in Mexico City seem to have exploited their skill with sharp blades to corner the city's barbering industry.


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[Assistant] Prominent Japanese exiles in Thailand formed the King's bodyguard, and in Cambodia and Vietnam, Japanese Catholic merchant families came to control much of these states' international trade, often acting as middlemen for the Europeans.


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[Assistant] Few inhabited corners of the world did not see a Japanese person during the early 17th century.


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[Assistant] Back in the land of silver and gold, English merchants could not turn a profit and left Japan voluntarily in 1623, three years after the death of their influential man at court, William Adams, who by this time was known on the sea lanes of East Asia by his Japanese title, Miura Anjin.


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[Assistant] By 1641 of all the Europeans, only the Dutch had stuck it out.


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[Assistant] The policy of Sakkoku was not seen at the time as anything particularly strange.


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[Assistant] Indeed, in the 1640s, many countries restricted their international relations to some extent, and Japanese trade, in fact, increased for at least the first century.


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[Assistant] Even well into the 18th century, the German doctor Engelbert Kempfer, who lived in Japan for two years while in Dutch service, praised the Japanese government for ensuring eternal peace in the realm.


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[Assistant] It was only in later eras, when an increasingly aggressive Europe came to believe in its divine right to travel and trade anywhere it chose, that Sakoku restrictions attracted serious criticism on the international stage.


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[Assistant] And of course, as before, during the long years of restrictions, desirable elements were mostly welcome. So long as they obeyed the rules.


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[Assistant] Every year, hundreds of Chinese ships visited Nagasaki, the port designated for legal Dutch and Chinese trade.


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[Assistant] That the Chinese government still forbade trade with Japan and called all such merchants pirates was irrelevant.


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[Assistant] They declared false destinations before leaving their home ports and then reappeared with contraband-laden junks later in the year.


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[Assistant] Korea was another avenue for Chinese goods. Japanese merchants from the western island of Tsushima operated from a restricted enclosure in the city of Busan.


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[Assistant] In addition, a route was carved to the south, where scores of sun-bathed, wind-ravaged islands stretched lazily like a rope down the Earth's curve towards Taiwan and China. The Ryukyu Kingdom.


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[Assistant] Now known as Okinawa, which since a swift and brutal 1609 invasion had been under Japanese control.


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[Assistant] Very much as in the Caribbean, sugar and other plantation industries were established to serve an ever increasing metropolitan demand for exotic luxuries.


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[Assistant] The locals were disarmed, thereby giving impetus to develop the ancient native arts of fighting empty-handed, or karate, a method of defense which, after going through a number of mutations, was reborn as the modern sport, now practiced by up to 100 million people around the globe.


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[Assistant] The key was the fact that despite the ongoing official ban on trade with Japan, China enjoyed an extensive official trade with Ryukyu, which included products such as ivory from as far away as Africa. So whenever a Chinese mission made port, the Japanese hid.


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[Assistant] Finally, an ever-growing trade developed with the indigenous inhabitants of the misty, icebound islands to the north.


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[Assistant] A people who we know today as the Ainu of Hokkaido, but then were known as Ezo.


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[Assistant] The wild Ezo world stretched far north, well into what is now Russia. But in the 17th century, no one much knew or cared about settling in those inhospitable, untamed lands.


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[Assistant] Best to leave them to the fur-clad, elaborately-tattooed natives who are ripe for an exploitative trade in rich, local, natural resources in exchange for rice, alcohol, and weapons.


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[Assistant] One trade product that endures on Japanese tables to this very day, salted salmon, stands out.


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[Assistant] The Japanese simply enforced their border controls and enacted extremely strict immigration policies.


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[Assistant] Something that all modern states take for granted existed in Japan hundreds of years before western countries were strong enough to enforce such policies in their own realms.


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[Assistant] But, the Japanese government did effectively close the world to her own citizens.


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[Assistant] In the years following 1633, the regulations on foreign travel got tighter and tighter until no Japanese person was permitted to travel outside of Japan on pain of exile or death.


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[Assistant] Any that found themselves elsewhere, even by mistake or bad luck such as a shipwreck, had to stay there. No return was allowed.


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[Assistant] John Sayers stood with his head hung low in shame as the fire crackled and popped.


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[Assistant] Captain of the first English East India company ship to reach Japan, he had been proud of his voyage and of the titillating merchandise he had acquired for the journey home.


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[Assistant] After cheerfully displaying it on his ship cabin's walls, his plan was to store his secret treasure temporarily with the other goods, in the house of Sir Thomas Smith, the first governor of the Honourable Company, and a good, honest Christian. But, unsurprisingly perhaps, on discovery, Mr Smith had not taken it well, and had, with a sense of drama,


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[Assistant] Put them into the fire where they continued till they were burnt and turned to smoke. Sayer's novel collection was no more.


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[Assistant] The first recorded export of erotic shunga pictures from Japan. Meeting a quick end.


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[Assistant] Difference, licentiousness, and otherness was consumed swiftly in the purifying flames.


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[Assistant] Popular as shunga were, Japan had much more to offer the far west, and following England's withdrawal, the Dutch East India Company enjoyed a lucrative monopoly on direct Japanese trade with Europe for two centuries.


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[Assistant] They exported not only shunga pitchers, a commodity commonly sold by door-to-door peddlers in early modern Japan, but also silver, porcelain furniture such as desks and cabinets, tea, exquisite works of art, expensive novelty gimmicks, and numerous other products.


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[Assistant] Japanese porcelain in particular reached a huge volume in the 17th century and copied in nativized styles like the willow pattern. Grace European and American tables to this day without the diners having any idea of the rich history to be found beneath their food.


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[Assistant] It is even thought that drawers were introduced to Europe through Japanese import furniture.


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[Assistant] Commissions could also be sent around the world. Two examples from the 18th century were fine lacquerware portraits of Frederick the Great of Prussia, thought to have been ordered specially by an admirer.


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[Assistant] And Europe had much to offer Japan as well. Since the time of the Jesuits, European and Asian novelties, such as telescopes, clocks, oil paintings, microscopes, eyeglasses, maps, wines, globes, even exotic animals had found a ready market in noble Japanese circles.


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[Assistant] Lords and ladies simply indicated their desired products, a list was delivered to the other side of the globe, and a few years later the products would be found displayed upon tatami mats, ready to be enjoyed.


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[Assistant] The Dutch were, in effect, pioneering the first global mail order business.


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[Assistant] However, in the 17th century, European books were still strictly forbidden.


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[Assistant] The dangers of the foreign dogma still lingered in the Japanese memory.


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[Assistant] Any intellectual infection, however unlikely or mild seeming, would not be allowed to wreak the havoc it had in the past.


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[Assistant] But by 1709, memories of that painful episode were fading into the fog of history.


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[Assistant] Arai Hakuseki, earnest scholar and senior government advisor, secretly observed his strange visitor through a lattice screen.


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[Assistant] The European priest was kneeling, his wrists tied behind his back, his head bowed deeply to the tatami mats.


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[Assistant] It was the sixth year of Hoei in the Japanese calendar, 1709 as the Catholics calculated it.


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[Assistant] This interrogation was a welcome diversion from the incessant intrigue at court, where Shogun Tsunayoshi derisively called the Dog Shogun for his wielding of the death penalty for those who harmed canines, was attempting, against the wishes of his wife, to adopt his boy lover as successor.


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[Assistant] Arai was personal tutor to the shogun's official adopted heir, his nephew Iannobu. Any new candidate would be a disaster.


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[Assistant] Arai put aside his concerns and tried to concentrate on the matter at hand.


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[Assistant] The priest's name was Giovanni Battista Sidotti, and he was the first missionary in living memory to foolishly attempt to enter Japan illegally. By his own admission, he desired martyrdom, and had come to Japan to achieve his dream.


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[Assistant] The conversations that these two men had over the next months and years would be the first Japanese attempt for a century to understand the European world and its strange beliefs.


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[Assistant] So Doti explained global geography, the religions of the world, and other matters of interest, and Arai recorded these ethnographic findings in several volumes.


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[Assistant] As a rule, in each section of the world, there is a doctrine that is held with esteem. There are only three different types. One of these is called Christian. This is the law of Jesus. The second type is called heathen or Gentile.


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[Assistant] When I asked him about this heathen, loyal sect, he told me that they erect numerous Buddhas and serve them.


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[Assistant] But if this was in fact a teaching, he failed to explain in what it consisted.


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[Assistant] Sudoti was accorded unheard of privileges for a criminal and housed comfortably at a special residence built in 1646 to imprison stray missionaries.


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[Assistant] He was given relative freedom within the grounds as long as he agreed to strictly obey the rules on spreading his religion.


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[Assistant] But, of course, the priest was unable to resist, and when discovered, not even Arai could save him. Sidoti was left in a hole to die, his wish for martyrdom fulfilled.


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[Assistant] His bones were found exactly 300 years later in 2014 during an archaeological excavation.


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[Assistant] But the legacy of Arai and Sidoti's meetings and debates was to live on, and sparked a revolution in Japanese learning about Europe. When Arai's protege became the next Shogun after Tsunayoshi's enraged wife had murdered him, this knowledge fed directly into national policy.


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[Assistant] The Japanese called this knowledge rangaku, or Dutch learning, and little by little over the 18th and 19th century it gained a serious following.


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[Assistant] Alongside the traditional Chinese classics, European medical treaties, encyclopedias and books on social systems, history, the sciences, military strategy, geography, politics, economics and industrial processes were all devoured by a strictly controlled but eager scholarly class.


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[Assistant] This movement, along with a great expansion of education in general, led by the early 19th century to advance techniques in many fields.


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[Assistant] Indeed, telegraphic machines, large guns, and primitive cameras had been constructed in Japan well before Perry arrived in 1853.


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[Assistant] Notable medical achievements included the first ever operation under anaesthetic for breast cancer by the surgeon Hanaoka Seishu in 1804 and the introduction of vaccination by various doctors in the first half of the 19th century.


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[Assistant] But prime among them was in the field of electricity.


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[Assistant] Simple instruments were developed in Japan from European writings or imported models. They sold widely as curiosities and were also used in scientific exploration, including the lifelike animation of dolls with static electricity, and on one notable occasion, the successful experimental electrocution of 100 schoolboys.


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[Assistant] The scientist responsible for that fiendish trick, Hashimoto Tsukichi, published Japan's first treatise on the principles of electricity in 1811. It described not only his own discoveries, but also those of Western scientists, such as Benjamin Franklin.


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[Assistant] And Franklin was not the only American statesman to rise to fame in Japan.


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[Assistant] Despite it being only in 1809 that the Japanese found out the United States had become a country at all, after noticing American ships arriving in their ports. The Dutch helped them out of their confusion by reporting to the Shogunate.


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[Assistant] During the War for Independence, a very capable general, Washington by name, fought bravely against English forces, and led the Americans to the final victory.


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[Assistant] Several years before his death, the Americans established a new city and named it Washington in honor of his great service to the nation.


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[Assistant] Rumours of Washington's exploits would only rise in fame over the rest of the century. And that was where much of Japan's understanding from these distant lands came from. Secondhand sources through the Dutch. Dutch learning.


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[Assistant] Though it wasn't long before Japan was once again dealing with the West face to face.


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[Assistant] Dressed as a European nobleman, stood bowing deeply amongst the grandeur of Sergei Selo, Catherine the Great's St Petersburg summer residence.


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[Assistant] It was 1791. He'd been granted an audience with the Empress herself to beg for permission to leave her empire and return to Japan.


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[Assistant] It was the first of several audiences at which Catherine was to quiz him carefully and listen to competing plans of how he could be used to open trade to aid in the development of the Russian Far East. Russia is the only European country that shares a border with Japan


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[Assistant] And during the 18th century, Moscow's empire, which eventually extended as far as California, was struggling to develop its far eastern provinces.


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[Assistant] The great reception chamber was like nothing the humble mariner had ever seen before, perhaps a slice of heaven on earth. He felt dwarfed and overwhelmed.


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[Assistant] The towering, pure white walls dripping with gold were covered with embedded Chinese vases, paintings and mirrors which caught and magnified the rays of the pale summer sun pouring in through the vast windows.


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[Assistant] It was a far cry from the humble wooden residences Daikokuya had experienced elsewhere in Russia.


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[Assistant] But he pulled himself together and told his story in the swift and fluent Russian that he had learned over the long, cold and tiring years of his exile.


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[Assistant] His ship had been caught in a storm in 1782, and after seven months of drifting, reached Amchitka, now one of the westernmost islands in Alaska, known for being a site for post-World War II nuclear weapons testing, but then a part of the Russian Empire.


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[Assistant] As no direct return to Japan was possible, Daikokuya found his way through the stormy, icy wastes of Kamchatka into Siberia and onto Irkutsk, well over 5,000 kilometres from the desolate island where he had cast away.


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[Assistant] There he met Eric Laxman, a Russian clergyman and scientist who immediately recognised the potential for opening trade with Japan, and accompanied him to St Petersburg, another 6,000 kilometres westwards.


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[Assistant] Daikokuya, escorted by Laxman at all the Imperial audiences, managed to persuade Catherine to fund a voyage to repatriate Daikokuya and his men, and attempt to extract trade privileges from the Japanese government.


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[Assistant] The mission was commanded by Laxman's son, Adam, an officer in the Imperial Russian Army. Adam Laxman reached Hokkaido in 1792 and astonishingly was allowed not only to land but also received with amicable respect and accorded gifts by the Shogun's direct representatives.


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[Assistant] He was, however, politely informed that foreign ships were only permitted in Nagasaki, and was therefore instructed to inform his government that should they desire to dispatch more ships than they should be sent there.


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[Assistant] Laxman appeared to have won a concession. Russian ships would be allowed to trade in Nagasaki. The first Europeans other than the Dutch in a century and a half.


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[Assistant] However, when other Russians tried to make good on these concessions in 1804, they were turned away, and their gifts of tribute returned.


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[Assistant] The spurned Russians departed and expressed their frustration by burning some minor Japanese settlements in the far north, in the hope that this would persuade the Japanese to return to the negotiating table. It did not, and the West was kept at bay.


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[Assistant] But, of course, this wasn't the end of the second wave of Western attempts to prize open Japanese trade. It was just the beginning.


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[Assistant] The English frigate HMS Phaeton glids smoothly past the numerous small islands at the narrow mouth of Nagasaki Bay.


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[Assistant] Captain Fleetwood Pellew, a young officer known for his rash, daring actions and harsh discipline, progressed slowly along the lengthy expanse.


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[Assistant] The settlement of Nagasaki itself lying directly at the end of the channel, and located dead in the middle of the bustling seafront, was the Dutch Trading Post.


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[Assistant] Atop Pellew's main mast flapped an odd flag, that of the Dutch Republic, a state destroyed 13 years before in a popular uprising supported by the revolutionary French Republic.


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[Assistant] Secondly, above the trading post itself, that same obsolete pendant stood.


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[Assistant] It was in fact the only place on Earth where it still flew.


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[Assistant] So as not to alarm their Japanese hosts, the Dutch merchants had attempted to conceal the demise of their nation to protect their lucrative and unique trade. And even after the Dutch East India Company had been dissolved in 1799, they simply continued as before, pretending all was well.


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[Assistant] Pellew, an ambitious man seeking his next promotion, was on the prowl for Dutchman in the Japanese waters. Any prize he took would strike a small blow against the newly birthed Kingdom of Holland, whose king, Napoleon's brother Louis, was allied closely with Britain's enemy, France.


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[Assistant] This was tantamount to an act of war against Japan.


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[Assistant] A country with zero involvement in the conflict.


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[Assistant] The Japanese officials and Dutch factors were surprised but pleased to see what they thought was a friendly ship, and eagerly sculled out to meet the Phaeton as she cast anchor.


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[Assistant] What happened next probably seemed like nothing special to Peleu's crew.


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[Assistant] But it changed the course of Japanese history and put it on the road to Perry's incursion.


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[Assistant] The unsuspecting Dutchman, led by Gerrit Schimmel, was seized and held as prisoners of war, while the Japanese officials and interpreters dived frantically into the Chile harbor waters to escape.


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[Assistant] Pellew ran up the British naval ensign, his true colors, and demanded supplies of food, water, and wood.


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[Assistant] Allegedly threatening to destroy Japanese and Chinese shipping.


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[Assistant] The Japanese were totally unprepared and ill-equipped to deal with the British raiders. And in the event, dozens of ships and thousands of samurai from nearby dominions had to be mobilized.


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[Assistant] But before they could fully deploy, Pellew, having determined that there was nothing of interest, had released his captives, taken the supplies and sailed gracefully, arrogantly and obliviously off into the distance without firing a shot.


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[Assistant] They were accustomed to respectful behaviour from peoples they regarded as lower on civilisation's ladder.


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[Assistant] This was the first sign that the barbarians might no longer know their place.


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[Assistant] It was a shock, a blow to national pride, and worse, there was nothing Japan could do about it. She had no means of applying military force beyond her borders or even protesting to a foreign government.


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[Assistant] The all-encompassing global European war, fought from the Americas to Java, had finally reached these tranquil lands, where there had been little or no conflict for nearly two centuries.


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[Assistant] One of the longest sustained periods of peace in human history.


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[Assistant] Indeed, though no shot echoed around the steep mountains of Nagasaki Bay that day, the incident was to have far reaching consequences.


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[Assistant] In response to the Phaeton and several other episodes in the coming decades, new Don't Think Twice regulations, requiring all unknown foreign ships in Japanese waters to be immediately repelled by gunfire, were introduced.


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[Assistant] Nagasaki and other strategic places on the coast now brimmed with artillery.


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[Assistant] The barbarians would not be permitted to humiliate Japan and her ruling clan, the Tokugawa, ever again.


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[Assistant] And standing on Nagasaki docks, and gazing intensely as Pell Yu humiliated his country with such ease, was a 10-year-old called Takashima Shuhan.


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[Assistant] It was to be the defining moment of his life.


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[Assistant] During his teenage years, he saw that peace had eroded the warrior instincts the Japanese so prided themselves on.


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[Assistant] That would all have to change, and he was the man to lead it.


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[Assistant] In adulthood, he ordered a whole plethora of books on military science and working examples of modern weapons. Cannon, mortars, and the latest handguns and rifles through Dutch merchants.


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[Assistant] He settled down to study how the barbarians made war, why they were so good at it, and strategise how to deal with the soon to come attacks on Japanese sovereignty that he foresaw.


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[Assistant] The military school he established attracted students from far and wide, and in the early 1840s, following China's devastating and epoch-defining defeat in the First Opium War, he was summoned to the capital Edo by Igawa Hidetatsu, a high-ranking government official charged with strengthening maritime defenses


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[Assistant] Against the now widely expected European assault. Most in positions of authority now saw it was only a matter of when. Not if.


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[Assistant] Lord Egoa knelt on the tatami, back ramrod straight with his sword displayed upright beside him. He calmed his mind to take it all in.


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[Assistant] Behind him, blue and white striped silken mako screens rustled gently.


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[Assistant] What he was about to observe he hoped could be the answer to the numerous problems his orders to improve defences had thrown up.


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[Assistant] His heart beat fast in nervous anticipation.


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[Assistant] Before him appeared 125 European-style rifle-wielding, uniformed infantry, divided into two companies.


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[Assistant] They marched, drilled, turned, stopped, loaded and fired as one.


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[Assistant] No swaggering samurai moving in haphazard lines. Dressed any way they pleased, no casually shouldered spears.


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[Assistant] Just neat, disciplined, minimalist movements.


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[Assistant] As the day progressed, Egawa witnessed the two companies and four cannon blasting an imaginary barbarian enemy from the field with ease. He was elated.


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[Assistant] Takashima's revolutionary squadrons could be deployed against the barbarians using their own methods.


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[Assistant] Know your enemy, know yourself, win a hundred victories.


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[Assistant] He knew his recommendations would meet opposition from those who preferred to bury their heads in the sand. But this was the future. This was the only way to protect the realm.


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[Assistant] And ensure international relations on Japan's terms. Indeed, China had proved that valor and numbers alone were not enough. The celestial realm had fallen to only 4,000 troops like these. Japan could not, must not, yield so easily.


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[Assistant] The charismatic lord understood that Japan needed the technology to make her own cannon.


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[Assistant] Not just the old fashioned models little changed from two centuries ago, but great, powerful guns to deliver modern steamships to watery graves.


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[Assistant] The answer was the reverberating furnace to make higher grade steel, and Yagawa's plant was one of several to be attempted in the 1840s. This technology, far beyond most industrial process thus far attempted in Japan, took time to perfect, and it was not until the 1850s that they became operational.


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[Assistant] The guns were cast, and then the next stage of Igarwa's plan, production of the first warships for a quarter of a millennium, began.


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[Assistant] These ships required the mastering of multiple new industrial processes such as the manufacture of steam engines and were a vast step forward, far beyond even the complicated furnaces themselves.


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[Assistant] Although a small prototype steamboat was constructed by 1855, just after Perry's visit, it was not for another 10 years that an effective, fully operational, modern vessel was manufactured. The Rio Fumaru.


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[Assistant] In 1862, the slow progress on steamship technology caused Takashima Shuhan to advocate the purchase of 200 foreign steamships to ensure national security.


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[Assistant] This ambitious project was never fulfilled, although several dozen were in operation by the end of the decade.


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[Assistant] These, including Japan's first ever ironclad warship, Kotetsu,


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[Assistant] Which had been built in France for the American Confederacy, but arrived too late to be much use in the Civil War.


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[Assistant] With the benefit of hindsight, Takashima and Igao's forward-thinking actions were obviously correct. But at the time, it was far from clear.


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[Assistant] There were those in high ranking circles who believed that spirit and bravery would be enough to win the day, as it had always been.


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[Assistant] Crucially, these men and women had never seen modern war machines in action, and could not conceive of their size and power.


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[Assistant] Nor could they even contemplate that these contemptible barbarians now consider themselves culturally superior.


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[Assistant] So, at the very time when drastic action was clearly needed, the government descended into infighting and inaction.


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[Assistant] A scholar Aizawa Seishisai described the debate in these terms.


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[Assistant] Some dimwits argue the warriors of our divine realm have been peerless throughout the world since antiquity. The barbarians are puny runts. There is no cause for alarm.


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[Assistant] True, the fighting men of our divine realm are brave and skilled in warfare, and our customs reinforce this. But times change. There are eras of weakness as well as strength.


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[Assistant] During the Warring States period, our warriors were truly fit for combat. Proper movements on the battlefield were simple, reflex actions. Our warriors proved their valour through actual battlefield achievements.


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[Assistant] But two hundred years have passed since our warriors last tasted battle. How many of them today are trained well enough to cope with the sudden thrusts and faints, or the other complexities of warfare? We do not observe foreign troops directly, nor do we gather information about them.


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[Assistant] Once war breaks out, they may engage us in a totally unexpected way.


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[Assistant] So it is a poor idea to rely solely on our reputation for valor.


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[Assistant] In the end, Takashima Shuhan was put under house arrest in 1846 for subversion and treason.


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[Assistant] Higawa continued upgrading coastal battery emplacements, but was not permitted to develop land forces.


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[Assistant] And so, in 1853, when Perry steamed into Edo Bay, Japan was still hopelessly unequipped to deal with the intrusion.


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[Assistant] The arguments, infighting and inability to perceive that the world had turned on its axis, and the East was no longer at its centre, was to continue for more than a decade.


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[Assistant] had rediscovered national humiliation and politics as well as foreign diplomacy and war.


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[Assistant] These forces emanating from the actions of Commodore Perry would be the catalyst for civil war and then a national rebirth. The Meiji Revolution.


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[Assistant] Japan was behind in technology, but not too far, and the foundations of the coming scientific and industrial revolution have been well laid.


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[Assistant] The Japan of the future would look nothing like that of the past. Clothes, diet, medicine, social relations, religion, architecture, agriculture, industry, culture, politics, education, and war. Every field of human endeavour would be virtually unrecognisable. But Japan would remain Japan. Independent, proud, and adaptable.


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[Assistant] And the incredible changes that swept the nation. That is the second part of our story.


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[Assistant] Uh, I was just calling to check up on you there Q, I ain't know- I ain't know if you was okay.


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[Assistant] Cause I was calling to, I know that I'm not a doctor, but I really think you should go to the doctor and get an x-ray, get diagnosed.


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[Assistant] We are, look man, we are doing good man. We finding a frog here. How y'all doing? Shouts out to the Great St. Tank Tank fam. How y'all doing out there today man? Y'all ready for football season?


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[Assistant] Man, look man, it's always a great time whenever you go into the season knowing that you're gonna beat the Saints twice. It's such a beautiful thing. I would say three times, but you know, I don't know if we'll see y'all in the playoffs. I mean, so it's one of those situations where


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[Assistant] You know, just knowing that you're gonna beat the Saints twice, it's beautiful.


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[Assistant] It's a beautiful thing. It's like, being a little kid, knowing you're going to Chuck E. Cheese.


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[Assistant] It was in the past. Real Saint, he came to the church on Sunday. He gave a thrilling sermon talking about how the past is the past. And that was in the past. We talk about it this year.


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[Assistant] Man, come on, man. Come on, Q. Come on, Q. I don't kinda hate you, boy. I don't kinda hate-


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[Assistant] Boy, I tell you what, boy. Man, just going out in the way to pick up a phone. But I tell y'all, look.


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[Assistant] So I see somebody say, uh, who, who their quarterback, he's going to be the best quarterback in the, in the division this year. Dez Merida.


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[Assistant] You talk about the players that willingly came to Atlanta? You know, they left the Saints and came to Atlanta? They could have stayed in New Orleans!


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[Assistant] Yeah, whenever they decided to come to the Atlanta Falcons, you know, those, those, whenever they were free agents.


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[Assistant] And cause whenever we got em, we didn't get em from the Saints, we got em from the free agency pool, Q.


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[Assistant] That, that, that's how this works. See, we didn't get her from the Saints. They were in the free agency pool. And then we got him. Ask Mickey Lumis, he'll tell you. He said, we got her from the, see, see, look at this man. Look, look at this. Wasn't nobody supposed to see that video, see.


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[Assistant] And the music get around your feet, sometimes you dance a little bit. I mean, that's what it was, you know. If somebody caught it on camera. I mean, that's, you know.


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[Assistant] That's what it was. It wasn't behind it. You know, it is what it is.


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[Assistant] Go ahead, go ahead with the question. Go ahead with the question. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] No, we didn't have all those core teams.


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[Assistant] That's the most dapper owner in the NFL today. Look at that boy. That boy clean.


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[Assistant] See, see, see, see, see, see this is, see this is what I had to do to kinda get me back in the whole football mode. Because I was like, look, it's not, we ain't getting in the, it's not preseason or getting in the football until I get some shade from Big Q. So, thank you so much, Q. I really appreciate it. What, what, what's the, what's the drop of blood for? What are they supposed to be? Like what? What in the world?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. E. Clint. Fresher than the Johnson and Johnson baby, man.


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[Assistant] Coach Ronny, he just asked me not to throw shade while he threw in the process of throwing. Oh, okay, alright, so.


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[Assistant] I mean, it really felt like it, but you know what, I digress, you know. So, the Atlanta Falcons are a very interesting team.


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[Assistant] Y'all know that I leave my heart out of it, or at least I try to, right? So, before, whenever we had Marcus Mariota,


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[Assistant] It was a situation, we went 7 and 10 and everybody was in the race to win the division, but now moving forward.


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[Assistant] You know, you got a more talented team. You got a lot of talent on.


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[Assistant] The defensive side. Uhm, and yes, you got a lot of talent from the Saints. I actually put up a video talking about what Ryan Nilsson is bringing to the Atlanta Falcons.


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[Assistant] Uhm, along with the David I. Yamada's and the Kate analysis. But moving forward, it's like, you got this young team, you got this young offense with a Desmond Ritter with all of these weapons.


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[Assistant] And you know, I'm pretty sure Dennis Allen knows it already because he, you know, he's, he's having cold sweats thinking about it, but the Atlanta Falcons are going into playing positionless football. So.


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[Assistant] B. John Robinson, he's not going to be a running back, you know. Uh, John Lue Smith, he's not necessarily a tight end. Kyle Pitts, he's not a tight end. So, I mean, John Lue Smith, he, he, he actually runs the ball. He'll line up at, at full back or, you know, tail back.


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[Assistant] B John Robinson, through training camp so far, he's been lining up in the slot and at the X, Y and Z, he's lined up all over the place.


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[Assistant] Kyle Pitts lines up a tight end wide receiver in the slide out wide. So with this position this football is all about creating matchups and hopefully, uhm, behind Arthur Smith the Atlanta Falcons could be successful this year. And all jokes aside, I'm


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[Assistant] The biggest thing that I'd look forward to going into the season is we just want everybody to be healthy. That's the, that's the most important thing to me. But, um, you know, I'll just aside. I feel like all of these things in the NSC South are better than the media is giving us credit for. So, um, I mean, I'm just going to tell y'all, man, we, we plan on bringing it to your front door.


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[Assistant] I heard, and like I said in the comments earlier, Kareem Hunt, Lamar Hunt, Hunt's catch up, Falcons sweeping the sinks. That's all I'm saying. How?


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[Assistant] Last year, you gotta, you gotta lead that. You gotta lead the last in the past. You can't hold on to it, Q. Let it go. It's 2023.


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[Assistant] You know, all I'm saying is, I know it hurts. It hurts when the torch gets passed. I know it does. I remember, I never forget the moment, you know, whenever, you know, the young thundercat came and, you know, took the torch from me. I never forget. It was at the gym one day.


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[Assistant] You know, I was a bad man in the basketball gym.


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[Assistant] Look, all I'm saying is, I just want you to remember each and every one of these jokes. That's all I'm saying. Like, each and every one of them.


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[Assistant] Hey man, it's a, it's always a good time, man. And I'm, I'm going to tell y'all something like over the years. Um, it's like.


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[Assistant] Ever since I was, before I could talk, the Saints and Falcons was a huge deal, but.


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[Assistant] I just want to thank all of y'all, like the Great Saint Thank Take, I want to thank you. It's like y'all helped take this whole rivalry to the next level for me. Even though, you know, Drew Brees is gone, Matt Ryan is gone, it's just the, the joy and the unmitigated happiness that I'm going to have whenever we sweep the Saints this year. It's just going to be, man, I'm just going to be singing that song. You bring me joy. I'm just going to be singing it all day, bro.


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[Assistant] Hey man, hey, uh, uh, the thing is Q, I wouldn't agree to do it with nobody else, my brother. I wouldn't agree to do it with nobody else.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, man. Definitely, brother. Definitely. Definitely. We actually, we actually got a new tease. Uhm, you know, I had had chance to talk to you, Q. You know, you know we done dropped the merch.


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[Assistant] Yeah, man, we dropped a what in the world ball merch.


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[Assistant] We got the what in the world, the what in the world ball merch. Hello. Yeah man, you already know what time it is.


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[Assistant] And you'll be able to get it on there. It's right there. We'll get it to you, you know, ship quicker than fastbo.


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[Assistant] Best believe it man, y'all can check us out at Big Low Country Sports on YouTube. We, I'm just an old country boy, former football coach that loves to sit around and talk about sports. You can check us out on there. I'm, uhm, you know, we.


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[Assistant] Talk about film, we talk about, you know, the different ways that we're going to beat the Saints and, you know, different things like that, how we're going to win the NSC South. I'm actually on a, on a mission to become the next starting quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons. You can check those videos out. I ran the 40 yard dash, pulled my hamstring, but, you know, I'm on the road to recovery, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, man, come check us out, man. Big little country. Definitely.


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[Assistant] Yes, everybody been asking about it. Everybody been asking about it. So yeaah, yeaah, we gotta see if we can get up with old Rashard and Dave and big game James and see what we can, you wanna try to do it like during the preseason or you wanna try to?


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[Assistant] Sounds like a plan my brother, sounds like a plan. Well look man, thanks so much for having me on and once again man, I always enjoy it my brother, I always enjoy it.


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[Assistant] Alright man, y'all stay safe fam. You too bro, peace.


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[Assistant] There was a pretty girl there who lost her head over me. Eight years ago. Oh, of course.


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[Assistant] Have you proposed? Or does one propose in these modern times?


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[Assistant] Both of you. Close your eyes and take my arm. The face of war is ugly and not for the young.


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[Assistant] Go back. It's over. There's nothing to do.


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[Assistant] People go forward, they fight for themselves and make things better for themselves. More food, a good bed, jokes to make and time to laugh. Then the filthy come and try to stop it. They want to take away from people all the good they've made for themselves.


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[Assistant] Well, then you take your gun and you fight, until you've killed all such...


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[Assistant] You'll, uhm, you'll put the dresses away for a while.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's the track. Carp hasn't seen these hills for ten years. But he remembered them as if... We'll go straight through without stopping. And we'll be there. We'll have done our work.


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[Assistant] Not this time. We'll be climbing. It'll be hard. You'll sleep on my shoulder. That'll make me feel good, sure of myself.


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[Assistant] I'm going through the woods to this side. As a group of motorcyclists come around this turn, I'm going to fire at them. That'll stop the column.


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[Assistant] He will be ready here. As the firing starts, you will take the wagons across the road. The firing will cover the noise. And I'll be watching for you. You'll be busy with me.


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[Assistant] Where are we? Over the Lugino Hills. How much longer? Much more.


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[Assistant] It's hard to tell. You get some sleep now, dear.


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[Assistant] I lost and I said loud and clear, even if I have a lump in my throat, I wasn't able to win.


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[Assistant] I'm from Florida, I started out playing RuneScape. Wait, what part of Florida? Uh, Palm Beach.


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[Assistant] An aggressive kid growing up. I was definitely a weird motherfucker growing up.


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[Assistant] Really boring, just, I didn't do anything, I just went home after line cooking and just played Runescape.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I started with playing RuneScape, uh, cause I was bored with life and I was like, okay, you know, school's boring, RuneScape's fun. I started streaming it because I made YouTube videos, just like kind of funny troll-y RuneScape videos and people were like, oh, you should stream on Twitch. You know, it's like even better than, you know, making YouTube videos. I'm like, okay.


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[Assistant] And uh, I started streaming on Twitch and I, after about a month of like 30 viewers, I just progressively started to get more and more through like, doing random odd stuff on the game that nobody else did, which made me stand out.


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[Assistant] I was, uh, already an established Runescape streamer at the time, and, uh.


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[Assistant] Uh, I was picking up to 10k viewers during some special events. Wow. Uh, an average like 5k.


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[Assistant] Uh, well I got partnership about a month and a half after I started streaming and that's when I started making money.


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[Assistant] The first month that I was streaming, I made like $12 in donations. The next month I made, uh, like $700 and that's the month I also got partnership.


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[Assistant] And then the month after I made $700, I made, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I just got lucky, so there was a mode called Deadman mode on RuneScape that came out, and as soon as that came out, everybody in the RuneScape section blew up.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, I mean, yeah, RuneScape is just like a game where you grind and the dead memo is a game where you grind and then you die and you do it all over again.


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[Assistant] Well, I made $700 in that month, so I was like, alright, you know, that's extra pocket money, that's not a big deal. And then Deadman Mode came out. I went from like 900 viewers to like 4,000 just overnight. Right. Uh, and then I literally made $700 more than that in the first day Deadman Mode came out.


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[Assistant] Yes, I quit my job two months after that. Cause I, well, actually, yeah, it was a few months after that cause I wanted to wait till I get a good amount of subscribers. Cause I know donations are not very reliable. They're not. So I wanted to get a reliable income.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'd say about three months, no, about four months into my streaming career, I was, uh, you know, people were spamming me to play more than just RuneScape because they were getting bored of it. Okay. So I started playing like, uh, I started with Outlast and I, I went from like, you know, on RuneScape I was getting like, you know, 5k viewers average, on Outlast I held like 2k viewers, 3k viewers, I'm like,


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[Assistant] Holy shit, like this, people actually want to see more than just, they actually want to see like, me as a streamer, not the game. And uh, that's what really like changed my mentality.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, as soon as I figured out that people were actually watching for the stream and not the game, I was like...


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[Assistant] I was like, okay, I can make a, this could be a long-term thing, like some sort of career or something. Uh, because you know, I thought if they only watch me for RuneScape, eventually they're gonna get bored of it, they're gonna leave, it's not long-term, it's short-term money. So that changed my mentality.


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[Assistant] No, my first stream I didn't have a webcam, my second stream, but the whole week of-


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[Assistant] When I first started after, I like showed half of my face as like a gimmick and then I was like, fuck it, I'll show my whole face. And I don't know dude, I was really bad at it and then just cause I was really awkward, I was like, I used to be like a really awkward person and then streaming kind of opened me up and made me like socially, uh, extroverted.


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[Assistant] I would also say it also matures you about five years mentally.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I've only been streaming for two years, but it feels like it's been 10 years. Like I definitely, I talked to other people that are my age and I'm definitely.


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[Assistant] Like five years ahead of them in maturity levels is just because when you have all these people watching you, you quickly learn what is acceptable and what is not acceptable in society.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, it makes you, uh, really think about what you're about to do before you do it.


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[Assistant] Oh, I mean, when I'm streaming, I definitely don't give a fuck. Um, because, uh, I mean, I just.


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[Assistant] Like, I don't need to, like, just why give a fuck, you know what I mean? I, I mean, I know what is acceptable is not acceptable, but I just typically don't give a fuck. I mean, if I'm not streaming, I will care a lot more because there's just no reason to just, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, there's more reason to give a fuck, so I was like, alright, you know, but I definitely do know. I'm definitely a lot, pretty mature.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean, I would have to say it like this, uh, I'm not the worst thing that's ever gone up to those girls. They see worse things every fucking day. Uhm, I mean, me just having a camera just gives them more of an opportunity to, uh, I don't know, be...


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[Assistant] Crazy, I suppose. Like, I don't know. It's... People who get offended with that type of shit are people who don't even leave their house and don't even know how the world fucking works.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean, yeaah, I've got that before and I'm just like, alright, you're fucking retarded and I just shut him down because it's, it's stupid. Like, I mean, first of all, it's not my whole gig. Uh, I do it like, you know, every once in a while, just go and mess with people, but it's more of a...


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[Assistant] Like I don't know, people who get offended over little things like that, like they just need to get their priorities straight.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I, I get a lot of that actually. There was this one clip, uh, of me, there was one image of me looking at my phone when I was talking, I like, I asked the guy a question, I looked at my phone afterward while he was talking to me, cause I'm like multitasking at the same time.


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[Assistant] And, uh, they had like 2000 uploads on Reddit. People were just flipping out like, oh, how dare you look at your phone when you're talking to somebody. It's so rude. I'm just sitting here thinking, I'm like,


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[Assistant] Like do you not understand how much I'm multitasking, I'm reading like chat room, reading donations, I'm talking to the dude, I'm listening to him, I have my camera in my hand, like I have so many things going on that people don't understand when they're watching the stream, they think I'm just like, it's like everyday, like I'm-


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[Assistant] Just like completely normal conversation, but it's not a million things going on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you, you definitely, uh, you kinda have to edit yourself, uhm.


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[Assistant] I mean, I, I don't do too much editing of myself. Like I said, I just, I personally don't give a fuck, but a lot of people do. And I, I still edit myself a little bit. I'm not completely the same.


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[Assistant] You know, on stream and off stream, uh, I'm the same person mentally, but I'm just a little bit more, you know, excited when I'm on stream and you have like the hype of like your chat room and stuff going on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Pokemon Go came out. I saw that Wreckful had 50k viewers and I was like, that looks really fun. And so I was like, and I was getting bored of video games at this time because I was doing variety stuff and I was like, all right, this is boring. I don't know what to do now. I was running out of games to play and I.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I did Pokemon Go. That first Pokemon Go stream, I got, uh, I think 20k viewers, and I've never had anywhere over 12k viewers before, so that was a big fucking blow up, and I'm like, holy shit, and I did that every day for the next week, and like 20k viewers.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think I got to level five. So- Five? I would pretend to play it and then just walk around and fuck with people.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, yeaah, I'm not really too into video games anymore, and at that time it wasn't either, so I was like, alright, I'm gonna pretend to play something, and then let's just do something else instead, just so I can stream it on Twitch, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I, it's just, it's just a, it's an awkward rule.


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[Assistant] Dude, the amount of times I've gone out and I would like, I don't know, there was this category called social eating and you would, you're supposed to like eat in your bedroom and like people watch you eat. And what I did, I'd like order McDonald's hamburger, like walk around the street with like a burger in my hand and just take one bite every two minutes. It was the most awkward thing ever, but it worked.


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[Assistant] More followers from doing like non-gaming stuff, while not getting banned at the same time for non-gaming.


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[Assistant] Uh, I was 290,000 followers. Jesus Christ. Is that, you're one of the biggest people on there? Or was that the biggest?


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[Assistant] I mean, there's people with over a million followers on Twitch, but I had really high engagement for viewer count and stuff. Damn, that's crazy.


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[Assistant] Uh, I had 33,000 viewers. Jesus Christ. When was that? I went to New York City and I was riding a bike, uh, with a first person, like a GoPro on my forehead. And it was my first time in New York City, so I didn't know anything. I didn't know the rules. I didn't, I haven't ridden a bike in like 10 years. Right. So I was like really awkward and horrible riding around.


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[Assistant] Non-gaming stuff on Twitch is like a brand new thing as well at that time, so, you know, then, uhm, in combination with me, like, never being in New York, riding a bike, having good quality, like, from a GoPro, it was, a bunch of variables came together.


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[Assistant] And like no other big streamers online and it's just $33,000.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, so when I was on Twitch, I was banned six times. Uhm, the first like three times was just my fault, just stupid bullshit, you know, like donations coming in saying fucked up shit and I would like turn it off, but you know, by the time it's too late and you know, the other time.


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[Assistant] Um, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, I, I, I personally think it's stupid as well. I mean, just for comparison on YouTube, I have text to speech on with barely any moderation and I barely get any N words. Like it just doesn't happen.


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[Assistant] Like, like donations. So on Twitch you'd get it all the time cause that shit can- Why is that? Cause it can ban you. And people wanna get you fucking banned. And then on YouTube it doesn't ban you, so I'd never fucking get n-word donations.


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[Assistant] Um, I guess in like a weird way, I don't want to say it like that, but I'd say like, I understand where they're coming from. They don't want a bunch of streams like the N word blaring out.


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[Assistant] But at the same time, you know, if you add a rule, you know, there's a lot of edgy people and they're gonna try and fuck with the rule to get, you know, somebody they don't like banned.


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[Assistant] When you put, when you're in an environment where everything's live and everything's unfiltered, the trolls will start to come out and you have to be able to control them otherwise they will consume your channel. Uhm, I didn't control, I didn't take control of the trolls.


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[Assistant] So they definitely consumed my channel, but not in a bad way. I, I, I don't think trolls are a bad thing.


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[Assistant] Outsiders who don't know or don't watch my stream will start to think that I as a person am very toxic when it's just, you know, just completely false.


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know, like I said, um, troll viewers aren't necessarily bad. I think they're the loudest viewers that somebody could possibly have. So there's the good and there's the bad.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, you need to, uh, the mods need to be on it. Interesting. Otherwise your chat will be just AIDS.


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[Assistant] There's never gonna be a way to block it entirely. There's always gonna be, there's, think about how many combinations there are, like, on a keyboard, so.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, alright, I should probably re-do this. So 20k a month, but since I do IRL, I have a lot of, I have a shitload of expenses, so I'm actually profiting probably about 10k a month. Which is still a shitload, but it's not like, oh 20k, like it's not what they think.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like, you know, rent, Uber, I have an employee, I have, you know, some, a developer, I have, I travel a lot, I, you know, planes, hotels, I have a lot of fucking expenses.


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[Assistant] Uh, not until recently, I mean, I have this like weird obsession to try and perfect like something that is not


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[Assistant] Uh, perfect yet. So like streaming from a computer is already like perfected. Everyone knows how to do it. Streaming like on the go is something that's very imperfect and a lot of people don't know how to do. So I'm like, my obsession is like to try and perfect that. So I could be like, okay, I would, you know, I was the one who perfected this before everyone else. It's like, like a race, like a, like a space race back in like the 1960s. Yeah.


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[Assistant] So, when I was on Twitch, my subscriptions, it was about half, I would get about 9k a month in subscriptions and then the rest in like donations, like 11k or something, donations. Uh, then sometimes I'd get like the odd, the odd off sponsor, you know, an extra 10k for that month.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I played some game for like 4 hours or something.


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[Assistant] All because somebody offers you 10k doesn't mean you should take it. I get a lot of offers, you know, people want to pay like 10k, and it seems weird not to take something for $10,000, but if you take something every week,


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[Assistant] For a month, for $10,000, cool, you made 40 grand that month, but you also may have alienated half your viewership, and the next month, you won't get those sponsors, because you have half your viewership, and now you have, now you just fucked yourself.


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[Assistant] Well, that's, that's not bad. That's a little bit different. Uhm, if I were to play like some weird game that nobody wants to see for like six hours every two days, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Vlogging just seems forced to me, to be honest. Like, a lot of my, uhm,


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[Assistant] When you have a chat room going and you're reading and there's like thousands of people in the chat room talking about you and your stream, what you're doing.


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[Assistant] It, uh, it's sort of like you go with the flow, you know, hypes you up and it makes you, it makes everything less.


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[Assistant] Forced, you know, because it's like, they're already, like, it's like you're talking to other people.


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[Assistant] You're having the force of this weird emotion that you don't have because there's nobody watching you.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeah, I mean, it's weird, man. Just making a video is so fucking weird because you just don't know how to do it.


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[Assistant] Which direction to take it when I'm reading the chat, I'm constantly improvising on how I should act and.


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[Assistant] What I should say and what should I, what I should do, so I'm like used to that, so going to the vlog seems so fucking forced.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, uh, I definitely feel that way too, but, uh, I've come to the point where it's like, all right, my time is done. It's time to go.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, I mean, a lot of times I don't like cutting it off, but you know, you know when you have to. Otherwise, uh, I mean, for me personally, like there's just sometimes it just gets stale. So it's like, all right, let's cut it off. So people don't start to think like, okay, his stream is stale now because it was stale for 10 minutes.


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[Assistant] It doesn't ever work out. Shit always comes up. I mean, if I was just sitting at a computer and streaming.


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[Assistant] All the time. It would be a little bit different. I could keep that schedule. I used to keep that schedule a lot easier.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but when you're like streaming and you're doing like IRL in real life and so many weird variables come up, it fucks you over.


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[Assistant] Until it feels right. Sometimes it's five hours, sometimes it's two hours. You know, it just, it's how I feel that day. Because if, the weird thing is you're only as good as like your past two streams. People won't, people will forget how your stream was two weeks ago if the last two days have been shit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so when I first went on YouTube from Twitch, I, uh,


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[Assistant] Literally was so fucking scared of losing my entire fanbase, everything I worked hard for. So I was like, following everything they would do to a fucking T. I would go on Reddit and I would just read everything and follow what they do to a T. And after about a month or two months of that, I just fucking lost my mind. Like I just couldn't do it anymore.


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[Assistant] Just every day I'd wake up and I would dread streaming. I would dread waking up. I just want to sleep. I didn't want to do anything because I was


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[Assistant] I take into what they say for consideration, but I'm gonna do what I think is right because otherwise I'm gonna get depressed. And if I'm depressed, it's gonna suffer my stream.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, I mean, the band before that was banned for 45 days and they told me, alright, one more band and it's gonna be a perm.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I wasn't too nervous about it because at the time I still had like subscribers. So that month I was banned. Uh, I literally sat in my room all day and do shit, still made 10 grand.


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[Assistant] I mean, I tried doing like vlogs, but like I said, it's too forced. I couldn't stream any other site because of the contract with Twitch.


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[Assistant] You can get partnered, but I'm pretty sure you're not gonna be able to stream on YouTube Live anymore if you stream on Twitch and you're partnered with them.


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[Assistant] You can get donations, but you can't get a subscriber, uh, like a bunch of, you know, emotes and stuff without being partnered.


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[Assistant] And also you won't get like resort, like when you're partnered, you get a lot more resources from the staff at Twitch and they'll help you and you have like somebody you can actually like call up and like any time of the day. Whereas if you're a non-partner, they kind of just, there's little support.


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[Assistant] I mean, if you're just, uh, if you're not purposely trying to, like, break the rules, you'll be fine. And playing rap videos should be okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, I mean, do you, do you feel like any different, like streaming on the different platform? Like, do you feel like when you're streaming, like you act a little bit differently or no?


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[Assistant] Popular. Uh, Twitch is based around gaming. It's just, it is a way different audience than on YouTube.


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[Assistant] Yep. And, and then, uh, I stream at the airport and, uh, you know, uh, I got swatted and then I got banned. It was weird because I, that's not, I streamed at an airport like,


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[Assistant] So I literally would stream myself walking onto my plane.


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[Assistant] Uh, so that wasn't the first time, so I wasn't like afraid of like streaming to the airport. I didn't think it was like a big deal since I've done it so many times before. Like I was trying to vlog, you know, like vlog live, like that's what I was going for. Uh, and then after I got banned, actually when I first got banned, I didn't even know why I got banned. I was like, I looked at it and I'm like, what the fuck's going on?


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[Assistant] No, because I got told by Twitch staff the day before that I'm fine. Oh, okay. I asked and he was like, well, that's bitch.


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[Assistant] Well, he didn't know, I guess, and I was like, is this, am I gonna get banned for this? He's like, it didn't happen on stream, so you should be okay. Right. And then some more like legal issues, like got more involved, so I was told so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I think, I don't know, I think it was like a, I don't want to like say like blank, like statements that I don't know about. Cause I don't really know much about the situation to be honest, but, uh, it's probably something to do with PR.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean, I guess, uh, if we're gonna put it like that, uhm,


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[Assistant] I've, I've been, I've been raped a lot of times on Twitch. Because I keep wearing that fucking short dress. You know what I mean? So.


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[Assistant] I mean, in the end, like I did create the community and the, I mean, it wasn't, it was one guy who swatted me. So I shouldn't say it like that. What I should say is throughout my entire four months of doing IRL, I had constant like.


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[Assistant] Bullshit events, like I got my camera smashed, I had a guy commit suicide, I had a lot of fucked up shit happen on my stream.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uhm, I don't know. Twitch, uh, in their IRL section is weird, man, because they, they wanna, they, they have really, uh, fairly strict rules and IRL is just...


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[Assistant] It's very un, very un-strict environment, you know? Yeah, exactly. It's real fucking real life.


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[Assistant] Uhm, actually I was streaming on Twitch one day and some homeless guy came up and showed me his dick and I had like, I fucking flipped out dude.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I did. Just barely. Just barely. I fucking freaked out, dude. And that's just, you know, when you're, when, this is my opinion.


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[Assistant] Uh, but when something's your livelihood, you sh- and something's out of your control like that, you shouldn't really have to freak out, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] It should just be like, oh fuck, that happened. Alright, let's just move on. You shouldn't have to be like worried or freaked out afterward.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they, they take, uh, they have the power, man. They fucked. But, uh, it's shit. It is what it is. Uh, but back to that, uh, swatting thing. Yeah. I mean, that basically, they said it was, you know.


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[Assistant] I was banned because I showed my gate number and I was, uh, like asking for it. Cause I was like, oh, but you know, I showed my gate number. Oh, what are you guys going to do? Like in like a sarcastic, you know, kind of tone, you know, it's kind of, I'm a very sarcastic person on stream.


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[Assistant] I mean, for me personally, it wasn't really about like money loss that I was worried about. It was more so like I was completely lost.


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[Assistant] And what I would do now because, uh, I mean streaming is the only, streaming is the thing.


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[Assistant] Texas, uh, for, you know, a gaming event. So that was like super fucking awkward, dude, because I was supposed to like show up at this event and I'm banned. It's like, what the fuck? So I was like, you know, I sat in my, in my hotel room for like a day. I was just contemplating my fucking life. And then, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, eventually I was just like, you know what, um, I'm gonna go to this event and I'm gonna see what happens. I'm gonna see what people say. And I went there and people were like, oh, you know, we, I'm so sorry about your band, but we, you know, we love you and like, we like you. Like they, I saw that people liked me as a person and they didn't really care about the Twitch account. You know what I mean? So.


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[Assistant] It, seriously, it, it is, man. Uhm, but after I, uh, yeaah, after I, I, all those people told me like, okay, we like you as a person, we love you and we're sorry. I was like, okay, it's not the Twitch account on why I'm popular. It's, it's me.


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[Assistant] Right, uhm, and that's when I finally had that realization. I wasn't sad anymore. I was like, okay, you know what? This gives me new motivation. Cause when you're on Twitch.


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[Assistant] And you're constantly like top five streamer. You're constantly pulling like 10, 20K viewers.


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[Assistant] You lose motivation, cause it's like, alright, I've already reached the top, like, just fucking, just time to just roll in on the money, I think.


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[Assistant] And I was like being bored of it, you know, so now, you know, I was thinking, okay, shit, I have 20k followers on YouTube. This is going to take some fucking work. I got motivated again and I was like, let's, let's fucking do it. And I just started and I advertised that I made, I'm going to do YouTube live on my Reddit and Twitter and everything. And.


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[Assistant] Just two days later after my ban, I streamed on YouTube and everything just had been going very well from there on out.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah. I have 230k followers right now. Nice. From in three months. So that's, that's pretty good.


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[Assistant] Uhm, my viewer count hasn't really suffered too much. Uh, it's hard to say. How many you get on average these days? Uh, right now these days,


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[Assistant] An average would be 10 to 12k on like average. If I do something special, it can go up to 20k.


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[Assistant] And, you know, this is three months later, so it's, you know, that's, that's very good.


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[Assistant] No, there is, there's something called a sponsor button and that is the same thing as a subscriber on Twitch. You pay $4 a month.


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[Assistant] To the YouTube live streamer and that's the same thing, $4 a month.


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[Assistant] So, and only like 10 YouTube streamers have it. Oh really? So, but next month they're releasing it with like a custom emote so you can add to it and stuff for people with like over 1k followers I think or something.


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[Assistant] You don't have to, uh, moderate your streamlabs. So on Twitch, I had to turn off my text-to-speech because people were just saying the n-word way too fuckin' much and I was gonna get banned. But on YouTube, I could have the text-to-speech on, I get like an n-word once every fuckin' three hours because-


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[Assistant] And I just, I just ignore it, yeaah. And I, so I, I make way more money YouTube Live than I do on Twitch. Just cause I don't have to worry about the fucking bullshit with donations.


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I don't know if I'd say YouTube live is necessarily better at this point in time. Uhm, YouTube live has been around for about a year. It's very new. Twitch has been around for like, I don't know, four years or something. So YouTube live still has a lot of work to do. Their chat room is not good.


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[Assistant] It's, it's fucking trash. Uhm, their video player is very good. You can rewind it and shit. You can stream at way higher quality up to like 4k at a higher bit rate. Uhm.


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[Assistant] It's just they have to work on like the chat and discovery methods for how you find people who stream at the moment. The only way to find people who stream is either get in your suggested video section or be subscribed. Uhm, but I recently just made this thing today.


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[Assistant] Uhm, where if you are a YouTube live streamer, you can join my network and in my extension that has 20,000 downloads, you click it and it will show everybody who's live in my network by viewer count. Just like how it is like on Twitch. So the discovery method for now for YouTube live streamers in my network is now very easy.


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[Assistant] If you were to join it, you would show up in my, uh, the sidebar of my Reddit and you would also show up in my extension and my website with your YouTube channel.


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[Assistant] You don't sign, you just go on my website and you click a button that says join streamer network.


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[Assistant] There's no contract, I don't get any money from you. It's just, I just basically made it way easier to find YouTube live streamers.


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[Assistant] Actually, uhm, the best way I found to grow on YouTube is...


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[Assistant] If you make videos and they get good views, so what I do is I upload my highlight videos and they'll pull like 100k, 200k views and then I go and stream two hours after I put my highlight video up. So when, so now people are like watching the highlight video before they watch the stream.


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[Assistant] And while I'm live, it says live now on the bottom left. So now, cause when you upload a new video, it gets promoted by YouTube and then.


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[Assistant] When he gets promoted by YouTube, you get a non-subscribed people watching and it says live now on the bottom left and they're like, oh shit, he streams right now. He streams on this account. This is how I find him. Wow. That's really cool. How many subscribers you pulled last month? Uh, last month? I have no idea. Let me see. I have like 50k.


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[Assistant] Oh really? Yeaah, I mean right, this past week alone has been insane. I mean like 3k followers a day.


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[Assistant] Well, I guess the more subscribers you have, the less...


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[Assistant] I am definitely not getting bad on YouTube. Uhm, well I mean, I could, but it's just very, it's a lot more diff, way harder, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, they're, they're trying to, you know, have everyone conformed, you know, to like, uh, like they just want everything to be super clean for like advertisers. I get it. I do, but I just really feel it would be better for Twitch to just.


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[Assistant] No thong, nothing. Who's butt? Uh, my friends, he's a guy. Okay, well that's cool. Uhm, and I, you know, I play like uncensored games with like dicks and shit and like ejaculating on a fucking woman. On YouTube Live and it's okay. Yeah, it was a game though. Yeah. Uh, and it was okay, I just got A-restricted. See, that's cool. They couldn't super chat or anything, but you know, I'm not banned, so.


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[Assistant] So when you, yeah, when, when you streamed, uh, you definitely have like some sort of cheat code for women, um, in real life or women who are watching.


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[Assistant] Well, it's weird. So when I was on Twitch, I didn't really make women light up. They'll be like, what do you do? I'm like, oh, I live stream on Twitch. And they're like, okay.


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[Assistant] But now it's like, oh I livestream on YouTube, they like, have more understanding, cause they didn't know what Twitch was, they know what YouTube is, and they get fucking wet as shit.


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[Assistant] Uh, well, it's happened a few times, but not very often. I'm not the type of dude who fucks women just left and right. I'm very, uh, you know, I like to have sex with women that I actually have some sort of connection with. You should try Strangers, man. It's fire.


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[Assistant] No, I think it was about accurate. Uhm, so the Rolling Stone article did say, you know, I'm a very, uh, you know, outgoing and possibly offensive person when I stream.


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[Assistant] When I say I'm offensive, I don't think I'd say I'm very offensive. I do say jokes that are a little bit offensive, but it's a fucking joke and if people can't deal with it, they can fuck off.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean, I, I, I didn't really, uh, I skimmed through it. It was really fucking, it was really fucking long, so I just skimmed through it.


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[Assistant] When I stream, I just don't give a fuck, cause if you, like, that's part of entertainment, you know what I mean? Think about like, uh, I don't know, like Louis CK, like he's, if he was fucking super conformed to society, he wouldn't be entertaining or funny at all.


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[Assistant] I, I, Jake Paul's a little bit different of a story.


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[Assistant] Offensiveness or should I say, my channel, I'm not saying that I'm growing my channel on offensiveness, but I do say offensive things as a joke pretty, pretty often. So if I say, so even I get like 2 million subs, if I say something offensive, they're just used to it. They're like, oh, he's just ice beside and like, fuck it. You know, whatever.


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[Assistant] Well, you can't sleep on Twitch. You can't? You can't sleep on Twitch. Really? Not from my knowledge, that'd be against the rules.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well, you can interact with your chat. That's the rule.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's a great idea. I mean, you should totally ask some sort of like Twitch staff. You could try that, uh, cause that'd be fucking hilarious.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the shit was loud. I had the shit blaring out of my fucking speakers. Really? So it was loud, man.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, I got three hours of sleep, unfortunately, because every time I fucking finally fall asleep, I wake right back up. Uh, but I mean, I mean, 5k.


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[Assistant] I was actually, uhm, completely fucking surprised. Every time I wake up, I'm like, why the f- I'm thinking in my head, why the fuck?


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[Assistant] Are you spending a hundred dollars to wake me up? It's the stupidest waste of money ever. Cause I put it, I did not expect anybody to wake me up. That's why I put it a hundred dollars. It's supposed to be a joke. A hundred dollars to wake me up. It's supposed to be a joke, but ended up people actually doing it. My goal was just to see how many unique viewers I could get during that stream, you know, as an experiment. How many did you get?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. People love the interaction and like to be noticed in front of thousands of viewers or hundreds of viewers.


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[Assistant] It is, yeaah, it is great advertising, uhm, to do that, it's, that's funny. Actually, a lot of people try to do that on my stream, and I'm just like, if somebody, like, donates five bucks, and they're like, oh, check out my video, here's the link, I'll click on it, and I'll just immediately just, I don't know, just like it and leave, cause like, I'm like,


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[Assistant] I wanted to click down. I wouldn't consider those fan videos, cause they're not like, they're just like,


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[Assistant] Like, they're trying to grow their shit off somebody. I just think it's rude, you know what I mean? It's like a rude thing to do.


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[Assistant] Oh, I mean, I watch the videos when people donate, um, and I try to determine if it's actually good or if it's just like some, like somebody's just trying to leech, you know what I mean? And I can see leeches like a mile away. It's like some random.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Okay. So many. Yeah. Uhm, yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Yeah. Uhm, I don't know. You don't get like fuck, like just stupid fucking leech bullshit.


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[Assistant] Like just, you know, videos that are just awful, that people donate, that are just not raps.


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[Assistant] People just trying to grow their channel off you and it's kinda shitty of them.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, uh, I mean, yeah, you'll be fine on Twitch with that though. I mean, if you're gonna band on YouTube, are you gonna go on YouTube Live?