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[Assistant] Then and there that I saw unfortunately take place in Charlottesville in my state last year. So the real human consequences of some of these, of some of this abuse, uh, we've been very lucky, uh, that it hasn't actually cost people's lives.


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[Assistant] Like when my grandparents are somebody and they start talking about old times and they say the Japs and all this and that, and they start, you know, holding that against them, I think, how would you like to have been them?


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[Assistant] Japanese Americans get drawn into this camp just because they happen to be part Japanese.


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[Assistant] You know, I just, calm down and think about it. But when they get older, they set in their ways and it's not gonna change. When you get older.


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[Assistant] Judging by their color, but he won't know what we know, fully, having been through it.


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[Assistant] 62% of Americans say they get their news from social media sites like Facebook.


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[Assistant] I bet they didn't see this one coming. I'm in here with motherfucking Bizarre today. What's up? What up? What up? What up? How you feeling?


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[Assistant] What's that mean? That means you're checking out weed farms up north and shit? Uhm, kinda sorta. I just got kinda forced into it.


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[Assistant] What, into the drug game? Uh. He looked at his friends like, oh god, this is gonna be some DJ Vlad shit. I'm gonna end up in the feds by the end of this.


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[Assistant] No, no, yeaah. So, the life of Bizarre, man, what's going on with you these days?


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[Assistant] Really? Yeah. So they closed them to make room for what was about to happen in the sense of like, the legitimate ones about to pop up? Yeah, I think that, I think that was...


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[Assistant] That's what they're doing out here. All the ones that are like underground or illegal are getting shut down and just the legal ones are going to be allowed to stay and the legal ones are trash because they charge too much and nobody who's really with the shits wants to go to them.


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[Assistant] That's weird. Chris, he says he can't hear himself, but I can hear him.


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[Assistant] You must have thought you were losing your mind.


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[Assistant] Ah, man, but the- Oh, yeah, okay, you know. Oh, yeah?


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[Assistant] That's an old school joke. That always gets a good reaction. I used to be really saying no homo like all the time. Wow. Like every other word. In and out.


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[Assistant] You could just have a headphone malfunction. Hopefully you don't walk out of here like the girl I interviewed the other day. Hello?


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[Assistant] Somebody walked out of here? Yeaah. A girl. Wow. Yeaah, she was in her feelings. It was rough.


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[Assistant] Damn. That's the bare Woods OG right there. Just for the record. That's that good shit.


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[Assistant] Everybody always talks about gelato and shit in the music. I feel like that's what everybody won't shut up about. Sherblato. I feel like people just follow Burner's lead. Whatever Burner's doing, they just take that. That's the cool shit.


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[Assistant] I still fuck with him, man. Uh huh. I don't know what the fuck I'm smoking.


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[Assistant] People hand me Bonce. People hand me a big sack of weed. I'm not asking what the fuck it is. I'm just smoking it. Wow. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Man, I was just, let's just jump into some high energy shit. Let's talk about this. I was just watching this fucking diss song that you did, where you were calling out Jay Electronica, Joe Budden, etc. Man, you still got it in you. You're mad as fuck in that one.


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[Assistant] And I mean, you know, Eminem is as such, he's so big that people feel the need to talk about it all the fucking time. What was it about this situation that made you be like, I'mma jump in the ring and just make some content off this shit.


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[Assistant] When's the last time you talked to Eminem? Is there any truth to that? Do you not talk to him very frequently? I've seen Marshall.


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[Assistant] Okay, we're at. He still comes around, like, fairly frequently.


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[Assistant] He just thought it was funny as fuck, and I was saying to him, I'm like, yo, you remember when we were uh, when we battled outside that lunch truck? What? Like an eight mile? I'm like, why were you making fun of that gay guy outside of the lunch truck back in the day?


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[Assistant] Oh man, I mean, Eight Mile is like one of those movies I've seen so many times that it's just certain scenes like that are just buried in my brain. I never watch a movie more than once, and for some reason I've seen that like ten times, so it's just certain things.


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[Assistant] I remember I went to a museum one time, and there was just a sign that said, like, we're just showing 8 Mile. This is many years after it came out. And I was like, fuck yeah, we're watching 8 Mile in the fucking museum.


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[Assistant] Okay, but so, so Joe Budden was, but from your perspective, were you 100% cool with Joe Budden until he did that like review of the Eminem album where he, I believe in your opinion, he like violated by going a little overboard talking about Em's album on Everyday Struggle?


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[Assistant] It's a weird position for him to be in though because it's like previously he's a rapper, Joe Budden. And when you're a rapper, you know, loyalty and not disrespecting people and stuff is a big deal. And then all of a sudden you're in like the podcast game and you're making content and stuff. And once you're in that world, it's kind of like, oh shit, now.


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[Assistant] You have to have an opinion about the new Eminem record. You have to, you know, talk shit, essentially, you know, not, not even talk shit, but like, and I think, I think that's been something that he's sort of dealt with in the sense that I don't see him jump out the window. Like he might've jumped out the window in that episode. And especially when you consider that, you know, he had a business relationship with Eminem.


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[Assistant] But do you think that he is basically wrapped up in self-hatred because he didn't make it as a rapper like Eminem did?


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[Assistant] You know, I feel like my girl's probably one of my closest associates. She knows pretty much everything I got going on, but she's also not the type of girl that's like talking to any other dudes, so.


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[Assistant] Oh no, there's definitely secrets, definitely, you know, there's things that we, we don't, we do or we don't talk about with the world. We're guys, guys. You're a big believer in the guy code? So that was your read on Joe Budden though is that he just didn't really get along with the boys on tour.


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[Assistant] Is that your lane? I could, I'm gonna be honest, that seems kinda on brand for you.


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[Assistant] I was trying to get my girl to give one of the strippers some money last night to go home with us last night.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean I'm not- I've never paid for sex, but I'm like kinda trying to. I feel like, you know, just giving a stripper some money to come home with you, that's kinda cool. I would like to contribute to the local economy, you know? Say that one more time.


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[Assistant] Yo, but to be fair, you aired Joe Budden at Hardcore because in that song you were saying that he was asking you for Percocets, he was talking about, you said you did coke with him? Oh man. That's gangster.


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[Assistant] I smoked a cig with him and I thought, I felt kinda cool about that. It's a start.


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[Assistant] Nah, like, I don't even want to know what the coked out Joe Bowden conversation between me and him would be like.


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[Assistant] When I was looking at the questions from fans on Twitter, that was one of the main things that people seemed like they really wanted to know about you is like, if you're really still partying hard and how you can maintain going hard. I'm the pill guy, man.


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[Assistant] How do you not get burned though? Because I used to mess around with that. I had to fall back. Because it was taking this toll on me.


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[Assistant] I used to just be on the Jameson, Cocaine, Xanax combo.


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[Assistant] Really? No, that shit will wait, don't take it. Yea, have you been burnt by the fentanyl gods? Yes. Really? Have you like ended up in the hospital?


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[Assistant] So, just to get back to this though, do you feel like...


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[Assistant] Joe Budden, by saying the thing about the prostitutes, that he was fucking airing you out in a way that, you know, is not, that's not the guy code.


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[Assistant] And that made you feel comfortable with saying something about like, him doing drugs and shit on the road.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like when somebody disses Marshall that it's kinda your job to go at them or is it just this specific scenario?


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[Assistant] Cause like, I've been kind of amazed by how...


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, no, he's good. It's just like, it's been kind of crazy to see him go from someone who was like a not that popular rapper for so long and then for him to be so beloved as a podcaster. It's kind of insane. But how do you, how do you feel like?


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[Assistant] In a way, I mean it's hard for me to judge because I think objectively he's like my favorite hip-hop podcast guy.


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[Assistant] And part of that is kind of because he's a little crazy. He's a little out there. He's like a little likely to just throw you a curve ball, opinion wise, and just take some crazy ass stance that you might not be expecting.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I guess that's kind of probably, I'm good. That's probably kind of why people like my shit too is because I tend to just, I mean, uh, that thing ain't hitting too much.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. Well, everybody works for me, I feel like that's kind of part of the whole thing. My girl doesn't even smoke weed, but I feel like she needs to start, she needs to learn how to roll a blunt.


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[Assistant] I feel like, I feel like the backward rolling is kind of like a totem pole of command though that like the top dude usually doesn't, but then a lot of times I see like really really poppin' rappers who they still roll their own blunts just cause they love it.


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[Assistant] That's what's up. So what's your judgment? Oh no, so what I was trying to ask before was, how do you think your podcast is gonna compare to the Joe Budden one? Because it'll be interesting to see you, you know, you put out songs against him, but it'll be interesting to see you guys sort of facing off in the same landscape.


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[Assistant] I mean, dude, but prank calls, prank calls used to be the shit. And people don't really do that anymore. That shit was great. Especially when you would hear somebody prank call somebody famous. That was always fucking great.


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[Assistant] Remember like, Adam Sandler used to put out like, entire comedy albums? That was a big part of my childhood, I was listening to his shit in like, 97.


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[Assistant] And it's just all these comedy arms and he's like pretending to be a goat and he's like getting kicked and thrown out of the truck or whatever. It's like what happened to that? That would be great if that could happen now.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Uhm, I think we're getting...


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[Assistant] We're too hot, man. Yeah, we're hot. No, but okay, here's my question now, is...


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[Assistant] What's your judgement of MGK's career and how that whole beef panned out?


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[Assistant] You think Eminem blackballed him? That's part of his whole big complaint.


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[Assistant] I never heard anything like that before. Uh huh. But do you think Eminem's the type of dude who would want to blackball a fellow Caucasian rapper from the industry because he tweeted about how his underage daughter was hot?


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[Assistant] See, that's the funny thing about them having beep is that I notice a lot of dudes like Vince Staples. I think Vince Staples is one of the funniest dudes in rap.


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[Assistant] Eminem versus FGK was just so good because you know, he's really from the hood and shit. So it's like


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[Assistant] Cause it's like for him, it's kinda like, you know, it just really doesn't seem that serious. It's like he knows nobody's gonna get hurt in this one.


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[Assistant] I don't know, there's always people getting their chains stolen, houses broken in too, with all these younger rappers and shit.


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[Assistant] Uhm, yeaah, I don't know, I mean, to me, when I look at the MGK thing, now that all the dust has settled, I feel like it's just, it was never gonna turn out that good, because I mean, it was just too beloved for...


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[Assistant] Okay, so what about the Jay Electronica thing? I forget why he was even involved in that whole thing, like why you even felt the need to call him out. Another disloyal ass fool ass bitch man.


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[Assistant] But so is that... Is it hard for you to think of him as like a real rapper because you knew him when he was a...


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[Assistant] What's your read on his career? Why he never put a project up? Cause he's fucking crazy. Was that your read on him back in the day too?


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[Assistant] Talk of this guy, you know. He had a real wave, but it was almost 10 years ago. Yeaah. He had a moment where if he had like really capitalized on it, it felt like he could have had like some huge success.


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[Assistant] Nah, but it is, it is weird to even think about like, what the fuck is going on with them? But I mean, I've, I've-


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[Assistant] I was talking to an A&R one time, and he was just saying that with a huge percentage of rappers, like, he's just like, they just don't wanna win. They don't wanna win. They make decisions that go against...


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[Assistant] What would get them into the right place? And actually, you know, that's something that I one time heard somebody say when talking about Em. They said,


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[Assistant] He's the only dude that I've ever seen who really had all the talent and then actually really did all the work and actually made all the right moves and stuff and never went against his own best interests. He never, you know, he always


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[Assistant] Are there any particular incidents that stand out to you where you like, did something in your career that you really regret or that you should have made a more adult decision or something?


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[Assistant] Uuh, man. I was addicted to hotels.


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[Assistant] See, I was thinking most people blow more money on the things that they do in hotel rooms.


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[Assistant] Me and my girl, me and my girl were just buying flights to Tokyo, and it's like 700 bucks for the regular seats, 2000 for like a little bit better seats, and like 5000 for first class. And I was like, bitch, we are doing $700 for these seats. I do not give a fuck. My back's gonna hurt the whole time, but we are paying $700. That's a steal.


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[Assistant] Two thousand, fuck that shit. Five thousand, fuck that shit. I'm not doing that shit. Wow. Right?


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[Assistant] Nah, ballin' out is great. I think I spent like $2,000 in the strip club. Wow. Last night. Now see, I can't do that. Yeah, I probably shouldn't do that. I can't do that.


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[Assistant] Nah, I respect that a lot. Cause like, like what would you be doing pussy while I was on the road if you weren't getting hookers? You'd be like chasing after some weird ass fan chick with like red hair.


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[Assistant] You gotta get to the uber pool on the way back. The pool? That's the way to do it.


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[Assistant] They want me to get her a pool so she can get in there with somebody else that's drunk. Just to let her know what it is. It's like, I'm gonna save like 14 bucks by giving you the pool. I mean Lil Pump had a lyric where he said, I'm a millionaire, but I'll uber pool a bitch. And I just really like, I know that he would do that. And I thought that was really, that stood out to me as a good bar.


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[Assistant] Wow, have you think he ever over-proved it, bitch? I believe it for sure.


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[Assistant] I feel like at a certain level as a rapper these days they make girls start signing non-disclosure agreements before they come in their house and shit. I feel like Wopump's on that level.


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[Assistant] I think there's like an app, like an app, so you don't have to actually bust out the piece of paper, but there's like an app that the girl can sign in and you take a picture of her holding it. Wow. I know. That's crazy. That's extra. If your dick doesn't fall down during that.


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[Assistant] That'd be fire. Yeah. They always have like security guards that confiscate the phones and shit too.


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[Assistant] You ever get into anything like really grimy on the road? You get any good stories about like just the absolute most filthy shit that you've gotten into on the road?


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[Assistant] Wait, so what happened with this guy who was blocking the bus that you have to go out there and tell him?


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[Assistant] I came out there and gave him a picture and an autograph. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] That's why you have to have the security guard to go out there.


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[Assistant] Grab him and throw him the fuck out of there. Sometimes security make it worser. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] When you have had to have security, do you prefer to be like more one of the homies?


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[Assistant] UC69 rolling around with like, this insane security force.


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[Assistant] But they really are trying to kill him out here, like fucking his video shoot got shot up yesterday. I know, that was crazy, man. Wow. Gotta be safe, man. Especially in LA, man. He like, actually seems like he needs that much security, which is the crazy part about it.


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[Assistant] I think that the thing that people miss about 6ix9ine2 is that part of his genius is that I think he has never really like written his own songs or given a shit about that at all so he's always just been about like-


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[Assistant] Doing crazy numbers of, you know, really, really well streaming popular songs. Like he's, I feel like he's, he's kinda like a rap, like Taylor Swift.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, I can see that. He don't give a fuck about what Laney does. Exactly, he's not trying to do like real hip hop shit at all. He's putting out these fucking latin ass songs that like, you know, doesn't even sound anything like what we'd expect from him, but it's a popping song and he can kind of pull it off vocally or whatever.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's just like playing the game in a way that...


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[Assistant] It's just crazy, right? That was the best era, the 50 job rule, Eminem, D12, all that bullshit, shenanigans, all these fucking mixtapes, DJ Green Lantern and shit.


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[Assistant] So they wouldn't let you sit next to Irv Gotti? Hell no.


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[Assistant] How the fuck do you even get to the point where they let you bring 50 dudes into an awards show? You must have, you gotta have a lot of clout.


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[Assistant] That would have been fire though if you fucking just caught a shaggy too dope fade. Oh man. Was there ever a point in your life where it was like,


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[Assistant] I know, I'm shook bro. I was really fucking with them, cause like 97 when they came out, you remember how that happened? When they, uh,


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[Assistant] They, they were signed by, I forget the label. It was like owned by Disney. They put their album out and got recalled right away. So it was like huge news. It was on MTV all day. And like me and my, my friends that made us want to go listen to it. And so we were listening to it for like a couple of years there. I was, I was fucking with ICP. Oh shit.


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[Assistant] 97, 98. South of ICP. South of Twisted.


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[Assistant] Quisted. Did they leave? Yep, yep. They left psychopathic, huh? Yep.


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[Assistant] Who do you really fuck with in the rap game these days, like on a personal level, like, rappers that you really get along with and shit?


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[Assistant] Rico Reckless. That boy is a fool. I love him. Shout out to Rico. He's out of his damn mind.


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[Assistant] Without the Rico, man. His interview that we did went crazy viral and he was fucking just smoking blunts in front of his eight year old kid and shit. Like, people just did not know what the fuck to think of that thing.


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[Assistant] I mean, for me, as somebody who like never even saw my parents smoke a cigarette or anything, it seems kind of crazy, but then, I mean, after a while, I'm like, I don't know how Rico would be able to live his life and hide his kid from all these elements of his life, but then,


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[Assistant] Also like, I don't know, he's just talking about women in a way around his kid that I just can't imagine is good for him to like grow up hearing shit like that, I don't know. I mean, I just...


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[Assistant] Like when I look at my sister and the way she raises her kids, it's just so different than the way that Rigo's kid is growing up. But at the same time, Rigo's kids, he's going to be a little bit more prepared for the world.


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[Assistant] What's your relationship with the mother like?


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[Assistant] There is none. No relationship. No relationship. So how often do you get to see the kid? Oh, she lives with me. Oh, okay. Full custody of him. So is the mom just gone?


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[Assistant] What's she into? Like, she watch like, weird YouTube videos of some, some girls that we don't know about or something?


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[Assistant] Does she grasp what her father has done with his life? Man.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause 12's a weird age, cause it's like, I would think by 16, she's definitely gonna understand. But I mean, Chester know you're a rapper, but does she just think that's normal?


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[Assistant] Right. What are you ever like, grocery shopping and somebody asks to take a photo with you and then they're kind of confused?


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[Assistant] This is kinda like super out of order with this overall interview, but from your perspective,


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[Assistant] Let's go back to like the Slim Shady LP coming out. Okay. Where were you at in your life observing this and what was going through your head?


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[Assistant] So like when he first, you know, gets signed to Drake, puts a fuckin' album out, all of a sudden he's the biggest rapper in the world. I was in Dallas, Texas.


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[Assistant] Were you completely sure that Em's career was going to work out and that you were going to, that this was going to work? I didn't give a fuck.


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[Assistant] What's the state of D12 as is? Oh man. Cause he had the whole song about it this time around and he said it was dead.


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[Assistant] Why did D12 have to formally die? Do you feel that when proof died that it was dead? Because he was sort of the one that held it all together.


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[Assistant] You're trying to put it in terms that I'll understand. You dumb white ass.


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[Assistant] Have you seen this now? I have a nice, I would feel real racist watching this. I don't think I should watch this.


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[Assistant] That's, what do you have to pay a girl to like put that on her track record? Because then for the rest of her life, people are gonna be busting that video out anytime she says anything. Oh wow. So I know some porn stars out here that fucked their career. See,


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[Assistant] I thought you were gonna go the other way because I remember when I first really started to get online like 2003, 2004, I remember I saw this website where the whole theme of the website was it was these skinhead dudes with like fucking Nazi signs tattooed on them and shit, fucking black girls calling them the N-word.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's race porn. I mean, that's like the other way, yea. But it was very offensive, and I...


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[Assistant] What kind of porn are you into?


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[Assistant] Bitches, I like bitches, man. Fair enough. Bitches, own bitches.


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[Assistant] Confirmed. Bizarre, heterosexual. Heterosexual.


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[Assistant] Big hetero. And a transsexual wind testicle. How often do you wear a shower cap these days?


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[Assistant] Man. That was swag right there. I know, that was swag before swag. Before swag was even around, before drip was around. That was drip for real. That was real drip.


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[Assistant] I felt like it was just like good from like a branding perspective. You gotta have something to make yourself stand out. That's what a lot of people miss about all the face tattoo shit and the crazy stupid hair. Is that at the end of the day, it's like a lot of these rappers are making you remember them by having such a distinctive look. Right.


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[Assistant] What's your view on the rap game as like an OG? You're just looking at the shit and you're like, what the fuck is wrong with these kids? Oh man, I think


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[Assistant] Yeah. I don't know, like, so, so what are you motivated by at this point in your life? What gets you excited or what are you passionate about working on?


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[Assistant] Are you passionate about Detroit in general? Is there something about it that you just, you never want to leave and you always want to like help?


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[Assistant] People from there? Oh, I live in Atlanta, that's where I left. Oh, you left, whoops.


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[Assistant] I love Atlanta from that perspective, that when I go there, I just be going to mad studios and just like, mixing it with mad people, networking.


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[Assistant] I mean that's like what you have to go on to a certain extent. Now a lot of times it's the security flex.


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[Assistant] Like six and a half walking around with seven dudes surrounding them, that's the big flex because it's like, look, I don't even have to have friends. But my life is so valuable and it is protected by this crew of fucking CIA level security guards. Right.


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[Assistant] I mean, he's making a lot of money, so I guess maybe he doesn't have to worry too much for now, but. And he got a lot of shit going on too, with cases and shit.


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[Assistant] What was it like during that time though when you were rolling around, fucking, and there was just that real threat of violence, like was that just a, did that strike you as like a bad time or was it worth it, was it fun?


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[Assistant] You ever do drugs with anybody in G Unit? That you wanna tell me about?


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[Assistant] I don't think nobody in G and do drugs. Nobody. If you did coke with Tony A, that'd be pretty fire, right?


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[Assistant] Did you ever buy drugs from anyone at G-Unit? Because I feel like young Buck would be like trying to serve you or something, right? Nah, all I'm just smoke weed. Okay. Yeah. Buck smoke weed, that's my homie.


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[Assistant] But 50 was capping, right? He made it get high all the time and he wasn't even smoking weed. I mean, I've heard that he smokes weed now or something, but at that time when he made that song, he definitely didn't smoke weed and he was just making a song.


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[Assistant] People have this morbid fascination about Em and like what he's like because he's so split off from like the normal rap world. Like what do people not get about him or like what kind of person he is that explains why he's sorta...


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[Assistant] But he doesn't care about any of that, he's just completely, he's still focused and, and that's like the weird thing about him I guess from, from even paying attention is that he still thinks that like the content of his lyrics, the actual like lyrical ability


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[Assistant] Is what he lives or dies on. Like that's the most important thing. Where most rappers, lyricism is a complete and total afterthought at this point in the game.


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[Assistant] That makes him an extreme outlier, like that alone.


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[Assistant] Right. And being kind of compulsive about it, like you say, like really being obsessed with the minutia of like really being a dope rapper is like, as much as rap is about rapping, it's not really that much about rapping because people don't normally...


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[Assistant] I'ma try it man, see what happens man. Well like, I mean, I have some friends who...


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[Assistant] I mean, alright, I'm friends with these dudes, Shoreline Mafia, and they write their whole verses out and they go in and they basically do it like one take, they might like punch in a bar or two, and then I have a friend who did a couple-


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[Assistant] They don't do ad libs, they just double it. Oh, okay. But like, I, then I have a friend who produced for him and he convinced him to punch in on a song. I was listening to it and it's like, it's kinda crazy how different of a feel it has when somebody's punching in their bars. Cause it's like, then there's no breath control going on or anything. It's like. So you like it or you don't like it?


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[Assistant] It's hard to say because I didn't really hear like a final song, but it's like, it is interesting how there's like, kind of,


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[Assistant] A case to be made. But a lot of dudes, like even old school rappers, that's one thing I realized from going in the studio with old school rappers who are like people consider super lyrical is that like a lot of the super lyrical dudes are just completely punching in like crazy.


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[Assistant] Completely. Because it would be so fucking impossible to do those verses without punching in. Right. I mean, I've been in the booth for seven or eight hours. Yeah. Not by choice. Right.


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[Assistant] The perfectionist guy. Right. But a lot of dudes really don't want people to know about what their process is, cause they're sorta, they consider it a trade secret. Right.


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[Assistant] The vocal kit. A lot of them are like, you know, like 6ix9ine, like people forget about that. They don't know what the fuck 6ix9ine sounds like without his vocal set that he puts on everything that is like super distinctive, you know?


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[Assistant] Damn, that's deep. Deep, we're getting deep into the minutia of hip-hop. Bumble rap. I guess.


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[Assistant] He's from Chicago, but I never understood that, especially cause yeaah. Right. He named himself after him?


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[Assistant] How we use that? I'm not gonna lie, I stole that from Ski Master Slump God. I heard him say that one time and I just thought it was funny. Wow. No policy. So that's a ski match for that one, man. He's a goofball. Uh, alright, so what's your message to the world before we wrap up this interview? What's good? Oh man, drug free America, man. Get to drugs.


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[Assistant] Ever. Ever. You're gonna just keep terrorizing the world. And if they forget about you for a couple months, you're gonna come out with some weird viral shit and just troll the world.


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[Assistant] Or if not, cheering for somebody that's 25 year old and remind me of me. Right.


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[Assistant] No, but I think that's like best case, that's better. Well, best case scenario is like, even if you're a crazy ass 65 year old yelling on Instagram, shit, at least you're doing, you're still out there.


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[Assistant] Oh, I know him though, the one in that kid. Oh, he's like friends with him?


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[Assistant] My dude. Alright, shout out to everybody who watched this. This has been Nojumper with Bizarre. Peace.


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[Assistant] My job is to watch and interpret. At this point, I have a series of different examples that suggest to me that there is something wrong.


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[Assistant] I mean, what I was really trying to do was to help Mark and Cheryl get this thing right. And the responses were...


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[Assistant] More or less what I expected, which is to say that what I had seen


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[Assistant] I thought Facebook could stand up and say, we're going to reassess our priorities. We're going to reassess the metrics on which we run the company to try to take into account the fact that our impact is so much greater now than it used to be. And that as Facebook, as a company with billions of users,


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[Assistant] Forgive an old woman, but I forgot your name. What was it again?


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[Assistant] He was able to come forward and say I can prove this.


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[Assistant] I think we're finding ourselves now in a position where people feel like something should be done. There's a lot of questions what should be done, but there's no question that something should be done.


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[Assistant] You know, there's a lot of problems here and there, but all these problems get worse when one company has too much power, too much information over too many people.


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[Assistant] It has something to do with keeping your hands and feet still, as I recall.


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[Assistant] Well, they're important. I should have written them down most probably.


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[Assistant] I think I learned from the experience of feeling like I was in a glass cage and I was powerless. There was a sense of hopelessness.


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[Assistant] I was angry I wanted to speak up, and yet I, at times I knew if I spoke up, I'd be back in a powerless situation. I'd be attacked. Uh, a sense of hopelessness.


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[Assistant] The ultimate Cleveland sports show. Booyah!


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[Assistant] We were getting crushed in like Michigan, Pennsylvania, I mean just, and so from like 6 o'clock on, you know, we're all like, oh my god.


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[Assistant] His comments about Mexicans. Everybody was convinced. That's it. He just blew himself up. Everybody was like, oh, this is going to be the death of him.


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[Assistant] Those crowds at those rallies, they were tremendously energizing to him.


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[Assistant] I mean it was a symbiotic relationship. They fed off of each other. The crowd fed off of him, he fed off of the crowd.


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[Assistant] I remember watching the announcement and...


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[Assistant] And laughing at the entertainment value, the way a lot of people did.


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[Assistant] An LA Times reporter came up to our traveling press secretary, Nick Merrill, and said, hey, have you heard anything about some reopening of the investigation by the FBI?


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[Assistant] Among the other candidates, there was this sort of smug competence that we know what we're doing. This guy is from show business, little bit Hollywood, lot of razzle dazzle.


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[Assistant] Here's a guy who's making crude disgusting jokes and the father in you, the brother in you comes out and the husband in you and you can't defend it.


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[Assistant] Yes, maybe he has offended me and maybe he's offensive, but I'm still out of work. I'm still mad that people are poring over the borders and I'm still mad that that ISIS is still attacking people all over the globe. And you know what? I'm just going to stick with them.


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[Assistant] He's a race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot. And you know how you make America great again? Tell Donald Trump to go to hell.


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[Assistant] Nah, I've never dressed up for Halloween, ever. Right. Well, partly because my parents were religious when I was a kid, and so I never did that, and then...


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[Assistant] Uhm, as I became an adult and went on my own, be able to make my own decisions, I just never saw the value in dressing up.


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[Assistant] Like my son, like I dressed up a couple times, don't get me wrong, like, but I gotta go like, like all the way. Like I got a real stormtrooper outfit. So I look, hey my son wanted to be Darth Vader one day. So it was for one Halloween. So we, I, we did that and I followed them around the neighborhood and everybody thought it was great. That was like one of the only times I ever dressed up.


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[Assistant] Well I think the kids got us beat. You know what I mean? Cause I look online and I see all the kids with their costumes and they little as fuck so they can, you know, like dress up in better costumes and it'd be more compact.


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[Assistant] Well, uhm, it's basically, you know, for the kids, you know, Christmas, all that stuff. Uhm, I just participate because they want to do it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely. You know, uh, one of the best things, uh, about my life is, is my family. You know, so, uh, I really, really cherish the time I have with them and I work really hard to provide for them. So when I get to enjoy moments like that and be able to do things that, you know, I,


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[Assistant] I see fit, you know, it feels really good.


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[Assistant] I mean, you're never supposed to, you know, start in the same place that your, your struggle that your parents had. You know, you're supposed to be able to let them start from different places and they have different problems. Uhm, I never, you know, want my children to see the struggle that I saw because uhm, they may not make it out.


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[Assistant] So I was strong enough to get to the place where I did in order to create this lifestyle for them where they don't have to worry about getting shot at or, you know, soccer people up every time they go home or getting socked up or, you know, or none of that. They don't have them problems and I'm thankful for that.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean like, I'm, I'm street smart and I'm book smart. You know, you can do both. You don't have to be an idiot out there, uh, and just cause you're an idiot, you can be tough. There's no, there's no, you know, boundaries for that. So I think that being street smart is about not getting yourself killed.


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[Assistant] And that's the basic principle. And being book smart will get you into doors that aren't open to people who don't have education. So I think there's a balance there too. And again, I don't want my sons out there


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[Assistant] You know, shooting at people or getting socked out and you know what I'm saying? Like they supposed to have different problems. Now they know how to defend themselves to the T, but by no means do I want them to have the same kind of


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[Assistant] Run-ins and the same kind of, you know, difficulties and enemies that I've had, you know, cause again, they're not built like that. They're not supposed to be.


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[Assistant] You know, my dudes is, is, is college material. My dudes is, is, is, is, is boardroom material. They not, they not out here to be following no motherfucking gangs and, and selling no dope. You know what I'm saying? Cause they don't come from that.


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[Assistant] No, I haven't put out music because I've been observing.


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[Assistant] And there's, there's a disturbance in the force. I needed to know what it was and I'm not going to call it disturbance because that gives it a negative connotation.


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[Assistant] I'm observing because I'm seeing the dynamics and the values and the principles behind hip hop change, literally in front of us. And so what used to be desirable and acceptable is not desirable and acceptable anymore.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I saw it started when people started saying, well I don't give a fuck about the lyrics, I just like the beat.


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[Assistant] Uh, I mean, it's, it's, it's just been ongoing. You know, music is universal and hip hop moves around. I mean, there was a time when...


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[Assistant] New York had a lockdown hold on hip hop and then the west coast had a lockdown hip hop hold and then the south has, you know, and continues to have a lockdown on hip hop and now it's going into this hybrid of all three.


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[Assistant] And so now you're hearing records from New York that sound like they're from the South and records from the West Coast that sound like they're from the South and, and that's like people in the South sounding like they making pop records and it's just a new dynamic.


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[Assistant] So uhm, I had to see where I fit in that, that scheme of things. I had to see where I fit. Uhm, because I don't want to mimic or imitate anything by anyone at any time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I just need to do what I do very well.


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[Assistant] And that's the distinct difference from what I see then and what I see now. I don't think I have to change. I have to really do what I do really well. And no fluff, no filler, no bullshit, no skits, no ehh, I don't know. There has to be a kick in the fucking teeth every time we put it out.


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[Assistant] And, you know, Cypress does festivals by the hundreds of thousands every year. I mean, they have like, schedule. Their calendars probably booked for the next fucking 5-10 years. But these guys always reinvent themselves like Snoop does. Snoop is a genius at reinventing themselves.


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[Assistant] I, I, I pride myself in being able to make decisions that take me out of what people perceive me as and be able to flourish in there such as television, film, you know, reality, scripted.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you name it, I've been able to go outside of what people think of exhibit and being able to break that and been on, you know, things that you never would have thought you'd see me on.


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[Assistant] To watch 10 minutes of that straight? Yeah, it was crazy, man. I mean, that was the entry. Uhm, I don't think anybody expected that show to be.


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[Assistant] And then we went to, you know, all the way up to being just recently on Empire for three years.


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[Assistant] But it was cool man because I always challenge myself. I never am satisfied with what people perceive of me. I don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? I do what makes me feel comfortable and challenged.


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[Assistant] And, and, and that's where my creative curve stays on the edge. You know what I'm saying? Like I want to be pushing myself to those limits and be able to do things when somebody sees the value in that and allows me to step into their production.


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[Assistant] Man, I-I-I bring it 100% because that's what I love to do. I love to create things.


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[Assistant] Nah man, when I was a kid, you know, I wanted to be an architect.


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[Assistant] How'd you get that in your head? Uhm, cause I mean, I used to, my parents didn't allow me to watch a lot of television, so we had to keep ourselves creative, you know what I'm saying, and keep ourselves entertained. So I would always, you know,


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[Assistant] Draw stuff or build stuff out of the materials that I had and what I built to motherfuckin' uhm.


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[Assistant] Because we weren't sitting down in front of screens and whatnot, so we had to use our imaginations. But, you know, I think that, you know, it really built something else inside of us that kind of allowed us to view and see things in a deeper way and see the creativity in it, not just the message, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you get to collect your thoughts. You get to, you know, prioritize your thoughts. You know, cause everything don't need to come first. You know, you gotta put things in perspective, put things in priority, and then you execute at that. You know, I like to be very organized. I think I got that from my dad. My dad was,


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[Assistant] He was, he was very corporal. He was, he came from the Marine Corps, so.


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[Assistant] You know, when my mother passed, he just like, that was it. That was like, he raised me the best way he could and that was what he knew.


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[Assistant] And that's, that, that kind of structure. You know what I'm saying? That organization. And so I live my whole life like that. It's very militant. It's very on the nose.


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[Assistant] Man, rest in peace man, my father just passed and I love my father so much.


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[Assistant] And so, you know, I was very rebellious as a kid because I was very angry. Uhm, but.


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[Assistant] At the same time, he wasn't getting out of my way and he wasn't getting out of my face.


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[Assistant] Uh, when the, when the, when the weapons didn't work, when the, you know, all the other shit didn't work, he got creative.


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[Assistant] So, my father was cold, man. He, like, we got out of school.


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[Assistant] And I had been fucking up really bad. And so...


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[Assistant] I get home, actually he tells me to get out of my clothes and put on some work clothes. Cause you know, we do chores and shit around the house. So we go in the backyard and this dude, we ain't got.


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[Assistant] A pile of gravel. About as high as this fucking ceiling. Right? Just in the backyard. Biggest, big pile of motherfucking rocks.


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[Assistant] And he put it on one side of the yard and he said, okay, he gave me a shovel, he gave me a wheelbarrow. This is your summer. You're gonna move this pile of rocks from this place and put it over there on the other side of the yard.


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[Assistant] There was no fucking purpose whatsoever of what I was doing this for, except that this is going to be a punishment that, cause I'm not going to whoop your ass. I'm not going to put hands on you. This is going to be psychological. So every day at 4am, you have to get up and start hitting this pile.


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[Assistant] And you're gonna hit the, you're gonna do this, you're gonna have a lunch break and you're gonna move this pile until it's time to go to bed at six, seven o'clock. Then you're gonna get up at four a.m. again until this whole rock pile is moved.


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[Assistant] Yo, my dad was very creative when it came to dis- when it came to discipline, man. But, you know, but, but, it, it sounds harsh, but at the same time, uhm, he loved me.


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[Assistant] And he knew the kind of person and the direction that I could go. Either you can use your powers for good or evil. It sounds like some comic book shit, but...


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[Assistant] That's what it could've been. I could've been a really smart criminal.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Or I could have been a really smart businessman. He was pushing me towards being the businessman and he didn't want to, uhm, damage our relationship any more than he had.


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[Assistant] So my job is to not relive the sins of my father. And so even though I went through that with him by the end of our relationship and in his passing, uh, we have become very close and we have become very, you know, bonded together through


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[Assistant] The birth of my children and him being a grandfather and seeing them.


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[Assistant] And, you know, seeing me as a man, as a father, as an entertainer, he got to see all these things happen. He got to see all the plaques. He got to see the tours. And he was very proud, like he said on several occasions, how


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[Assistant] And put it into the way I raise my children now. So no, we don't have them problems. You know, I don't, I don't...


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't use corporal punishment on my children. You know, I don't, you know, I think I could talk to them to a place where


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[Assistant] Okay, so if we gonna get to a place where you feel like you can disrespect me, I got some boxing gloves. You know what I'm saying? Then we can see what's poppin'. But for the most part, man, my children respect me very much and respect my words. They respect my opinion.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Yeaah, but you know, you have to get to a program where all other options are exhausted.


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[Assistant] You have to get to a point where everything else is exhausted. And then, it's like, it has to be age appropriate. Like uhm, you know, for my oldest son, you know, we had our tiffs, you know what I'm saying? And then one day the gloves did come out.


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[Assistant] Escape with, you know, so I would listen to the music. I would imitate the music. I would put on my brother's Kango with no shirt on and rap LL Cool J lyrics. I would do all that. I was a fan of everything. And so I would listen to it and I was able to find the artistic value in it.


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[Assistant] And it just drew me in. And so uhm, once they found out, you know, that I was in love with hip hop, that it was, of course, it was unacceptable. You know what I'm saying? So uhm, the next best thing to listening to it is, is creating it. So I started writing at 13 years old, like Exhibit A.


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[Assistant] That was my first rap name, you know, and then after exhibit I would rap on KU&M in Albuquerque, New Mexico.


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[Assistant] You know, cause my, uh, dad got remarried and we lived out there for like seven years. And so I would rap on the living.


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[Assistant] Ah man, Tremaine is fantastic, man. I love my sons.


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[Assistant] Tremaine is 23 and his brother is 8. Okay. You know, and Tremaine has been working on his own projects, his own career. He wants to do music. He didn't want to go to college. So I supported that. As I said, you have to work.


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[Assistant] You know, you have to be, keep yourself busy. So, uh, Trey Capital is his rap name.


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[Assistant] I observe from the distance, man. I, you know, I want him to want to do this not because it's handed to him, it's because he earned it. Right. And, uh, I support him, I, you know, all that.


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[Assistant] He has his own lane, he works with Wonder Girl and the whole once and other.


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[Assistant] You know, he's, he's fucking, he's, he's amazing. You know, he's very thoughtful. He's very, you know, insightful and he comes and has conversations with me. You know, he, it's like, I remember when I was a kid, I go, I wouldn't go see my dad as often.


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[Assistant] When I first got to LA, uhm, it was, uh, haha.


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[Assistant] Back when I got here, there was no cell phones going down. I had a pager, right? Okay. And so I, the only thing, I had a contact of a guy named Jay Johnson who lived in


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[Assistant] And so he gave me his number, his pager number, and said if I'm ever in California to hit him up, he had his own place, right?


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[Assistant] So long story short, I come to, I come to LA, he's not answering the phone whatsoever, or the pager. So I go to Venice Beach. My first night in California, I spent homeless on Venice Beach.


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[Assistant] No, it's by myself. I had a black and purple geo tracker, $3,000, some cross-colored clothes, uh, uh, Cool G Rap, the Cool G Rap and DJ Polo CD, some snapples and uh, AK-47.


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[Assistant] I was a kid, man, I was a teenager, you know what I'm saying? It was like the, you know, everybody thought that was the way out.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, whatever guardian angels or forces that have been watching and guiding my steps through these years because I learned a lot, uhm, I changed a lot and I've turned my life in so many different directions like, uhm,


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[Assistant] It's hard to look back and fathom that I survived the shit I did.


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[Assistant] Yeah, just for, just for a few weeks. I gave him the $3000 I had.


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[Assistant] There was a bunch of people, I mean, when you, when you come from selling dope, you know who sell dope.


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[Assistant] So I, immediately when I got here, shit was hard. Once that $3,000 was gone, I was like, fuck, I need to make a bag.


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[Assistant] What around me would not allow me to get involved in that here.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? It was like, nah man, you on the path to do something else.


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[Assistant] And then it was always pushing me to go with the music people and I eventually got out with James Broadway and 360. It was a group in Pasadena and by that time I was out on, you know, I was, you know, out, found a, a clique to roll with and kind of like merged in with them. Right.


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[Assistant] And so yeaah, that's how I started. Met Keen T and the Alcoholics from the 360 click and, you know, and one thing happened after another and ended up, you know, having a career from it.


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[Assistant] The song that got me signed was on Keen T's album. It was called Freestyle Ghetto.


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[Assistant] And uh, I never made a demo, I never made a mixtape, they didn't exist at the time. It was kind of like just word of mouth. Like I was going around LA like eating MC's alive. Really? Yea, and it was like these battles and shit that I would just go to.


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[Assistant] You know, we just go to Unity and, you know, bigger B rest in peace and Orlando used to throw this joint called Unity back in the day.


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[Assistant] And, uh, David Faustino used to have this club called Ballistics we used to frequent, you know. Uhm, but it was all MC based. LA had a really dope MC scene at the time, and so everybody was clicked up and going around trying to see who had the business, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it wasn't necessarily, it wasn't necessarily battling each other. It was kind of like, uh, that was the, like Unity was the first place I got, I got to saw, I got to see Wu-Tang and, uh, old dirty bastard used to do a lot of solo shows there. First place I got to saw Redman and Methodman.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because they would be, he would bring all these dope MCs and bands out to play Unity and all the local MCs would be able to get on the opening bill. So that's where I cut my teeth and uhm, that's how I got introduced to the LA market.


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[Assistant] I think that has nothing to do with the representation of.


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[Assistant] What we were doing because if you look at it, you know, Nate Dawgs from Mississippi.


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[Assistant] You know, all these different places, you know, like these people came from in order to represent something bigger than themselves.


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[Assistant] And that's why I felt comfortable doing that because when I got here, I was like, you know, we'll put it this way, it's people that was born here all their life and still never got where I got to. So, you know, fuck that.


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[Assistant] Right, I mean, it was like uhm, I just relied strictly on...


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[Assistant] When I mastered that, I was able to sharpen what I was doing.


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[Assistant] Uh, messaging back when I was first starting, but then as I got better and better with songwriting, I was able to structure songs and make complete songs and then able to mature into making hit songs, you know, and I think that's where that maturity kind of met.


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[Assistant] The momentum on my third album where Dre stepped in. It was, it was like the perfect storm. It was the Upper Smoke Tour. It was, you know, the, the Chronic 2001. It was After Bitch Please. Uhm, it was like, it was a really big transition in my, in my whole career at that time. And so then, uhm, when Restless came out, that's when it just exploded.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, no, but I mean, fuck dude, I mean, I think it was the first of its kind to go out with that many stars and have no hiccups and have no cancellations and everybody is, you know, is pushing for, uh, uh, the same cause.


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[Assistant] And it was dope, man, to go out there and be part of that, man. And Nate Dogg and Ice Cube and Eminem and Warren G. Snoop and Dre, of course. I mean, all those megastars just out there, just...


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[Assistant] Killing it, man, across the whole country, and we did it.


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[Assistant] With no flaws and Dre was definitely, uh, uh, the mastermind behind all of that and making it work and how it was presented. And I learned a lot about my touring experiences and what to expect from, you know, pushing out a project.


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[Assistant] Nah, we see that maybe with rappers that's the case, but we's family.


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[Assistant] It really felt like that. So yeah, yeah, we's family. We's out there like really like holding each other down and looking out for each other, so.


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[Assistant] Uhm, when we came off of that tour it was all camaraderie and we came and made some really dope music after that too.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the album came out first and then we went out on tour and then after that I came home and put out Restless.


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[Assistant] I mean, I knew it was different. I knew it was different. I knew it was, it was bigger. Uhm, I had put two albums out on loud records. Uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] Before that, before Restless and you know, I had some, uh, some success with those. Uhm, but I could tell the momentum had changed and the pendulum had, pendulum had shifted and we ended up.


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[Assistant] Going out and smashing man. That shit came out and it was crazy.


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[Assistant] I'm glad that the windfall of success didn't happen at that time because I was a little unhinged. So uhm, I think that if I would have been all the way financially in, you know, and I obviously wasn't ready for it.


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[Assistant] Oh, there was no control. It was like, you know, fucking Animal House.


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[Assistant] Partying, bitches, drinking, fucking, driving cars really fast, fucking, you know, you name it. We did everything except skydive naked. You know what I'm saying? It's like fuck, we did every fucking thing.


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[Assistant] Oh, artist that was never signed to him, but he came across the street and actually did full blown executive production for me.


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[Assistant] No, it had to crash. It had to crash before it got better.


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[Assistant] It was never a complete crash in front of anyone.


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[Assistant] Because once the, once the, the problem started with me, uhm, pimp my ride came out.


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[Assistant] And then Pema Rai elevated it to a whole other thing, so it was a different type of exposure, but behind the scenes, which I was taught never to bring your personal life to the office.


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[Assistant] So people would have never known that I was going through turbulent shit.


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[Assistant] Behind the scenes and I had a lot of financial trouble. I had a lot of personal troubles. I had a lot of.


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[Assistant] Relationship issues, uhm, that were getting played out in the public and...


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[Assistant] One thing was getting out of control, two things out of control, three things spiraling out of control, and it all just went to shit.


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[Assistant] So I spent like maybe about a good five to ten years really struggling with that. Uhm, I got married in that time. Uhm, we, my wife and I had a child die, you know, uhm, is born prematurely.


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[Assistant] And I was really at a point where I was very depressed and I was very, uhm, closed in.


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[Assistant] And I felt like the whole world was against me. People are making fun of me. People think this is funny. Uhm, this is not somewhere where I wanna be. Uhm.


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[Assistant] And I don't feel like talking or explaining myself to anyone. So after the cycle of that, when you still in your own shit, uhm, it'll keep you there and it won't let you go.


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[Assistant] You have to make a decision in order to say like, okay, I've had enough of this. Right. So now what do I do?


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[Assistant] So I broke it all the way down. I fired everybody that I was working with at the time. Around what time, what year or so? Uh, this was about, this was about, this was about five years ago, five, six years ago. I was just like, fuck this.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. And it was, it was, it was not because it was like, okay, uhm, I need to be in the limelight. No, I was unhappy and I had to step away from all of it and make the adjustments to make myself happy. Right. Cause if I'm not happy, then no one around me is going to be.


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[Assistant] And once I did that, I was like, okay, all you motherfuckers are fine.


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's start from ground one. And if there's something that I don't understand, put it in front of me.


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[Assistant] And let me figure this out and explain it to me until I totally understand it before I take another step.


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[Assistant] So enough of this fucking going and hiring people when you don't understand what to do. Because half of having experience is knowing who to fire.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? So I had to go learn all of these things that I had not been paying attention to before, which is part of being a businessman. Right. So it's the music business. You have to have both.


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[Assistant] You can't just be a great musician and a half-assed businessman. You gotta be just dope, just as dope in business as you are in music.


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[Assistant] So I had to go make that adjustment. Once I made that adjustment, uhm, I hired on new people. I brought in the people that I knew could execute and we started from there, you know. Uhm, we went and, uh, the first thing was,


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[Assistant] I wanted to become financially uhm, sound.


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[Assistant] After 10 years of penalties and, uhm, fucking, and, and, what do you call it, penalties and interests. Right. Uhm, that shit adds up.


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[Assistant] Alright, so I was under a 1.6 million dollar tax bill.


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[Assistant] We can do this shit. And, you know, I went outside and was like, well, what are we gonna call it? I was like, well, let's call it brass knuckles because we want to knock people the fuck out.


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[Assistant] And, you know, we built it. There's other brands out there that we, we, we, we view as premium as well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, you look at heavy hitters, you look at, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, Kingpin, 17Kingpin, you look at, uh, Select, you look at all, all these other, I mean, Burner's doing really well. We have all these people in our community that are doing really good things with their bread. And so, uhm, being part of that was very gratifying for us.


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[Assistant] And so we went out there with, you know, the intention of putting a really premium card on the market and the people spoke and they love it. And you know, we've grown leaps and bounds. There's been some issues, you know what I'm saying? Like counterfeiting issues and that leads to other things and whatnot.


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[Assistant] All in all, the brand is intact and you know, as it goes through these transitions and what not, it's taught me a lot about another side of business that I, you know, learned a lot with, you know, so.


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[Assistant] Being financially stable was accomplished with that. And so then it was like, okay, cool. So we, I went back and I paid all my taxes. I paid everything off. You know what I'm saying? It was like a really good feeling to get all of that


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[Assistant] Because I'm telling the truth. I'm not, I'm not in here just, my life sucks, but I'm in here writing these tough ass raps. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Absolutely, why am I gonna go in there and say that I feel on top of the world when I don't? That's the fucking lie.


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[Assistant] What's happening, then I'ma make sure that when I go and turn that fucking mic on, that this shit is fucking ringling brothers out here.


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[Assistant] That's a really savvy people around me. We really looked forward to what the laws and the legislation was going to be. And along with a lot of other people out here that, you know, things change every day. But we are determined to stay, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, in regulation and we determined to stay, uh, with everybody else that's trying to stay in regulation and, uh,


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[Assistant] We do better together than we do apart. So, you know, like I said, we are on to everything that comes out and staying compliant.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're only in California and we're in Nevada. Uhm, and we have protective measures to try to counter, you know, try to counter the counterfeiters. Uhm, but we taking measures to...


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[Assistant] Do that even more, you know, so we really enjoy the people that come in and engage with us and be part of this whole movement. So uhm, with that being said, you know,


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[Assistant] It was able, that door opened and was able to open another door so we were able to relaunch the label, Open Bar Entertainment. Uhm, we were able to clean up whatever mess was made there and then just kind of streamline everything man and betting on myself, you know.


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[Assistant] It was, it was scary for my representation because they were like, what the fuck do you mean? You don't want to do this anymore. You don't want to do that anymore. I was like, listen guys, this is what I want to do. If you're with me, then just trust me because it's going to be big. And it turned out to be true.


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[Assistant] My, my idea behind uhm, the, the mission statement with Brass was to make the Brass brand the star. You know, it's not about who individually is behind it, it's about what it represents, it's a lifestyle. So that was the, the main focus on way, the way we went to market with, with Brass Nub.


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[Assistant] And, uh, yeaah, man, it was just, it was, it was, it was like it lit the room up, so. When the idea lights the room up, then you pretty much know you got something.


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[Assistant] Nah, but uhm, I was just, it was consumption for me.


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[Assistant] In the Cibola High School parking lot with my friend, uh, Richard Harvey.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I forget, oh fuck, I forget the name of my man. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Damn, man, he's gonna kill me. But it was stress. It was stress. I wish we could go back.


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[Assistant] Alright. It wasn't until like my second time actually smoking some weed that, you know, I was like, oh, I done that before. I can, and then somebody had some good weed and then I was like, oh shit, okay, here we go.


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[Assistant] I'll put it like this, we had weed dealers traveling with us.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was like people with pounds just like flying in and then they would be gone. And then they'd have to fly in some more and fly in some more. It was literally up in smoke.


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[Assistant] The Garcia Vegas, and then I graduated backwards, and I just went on back.


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[Assistant] I like smoking backwoods cause I know how to roll them really well. You know, and I like, of course I like the taste and what it does.


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Well, thank God I haven't done cardio in a while.


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[Assistant] Well I used to, but I've been taking time off and I've been doing a whole lot of like business stuff. So I've been in boardrooms and tables and dinners and so I'm not missing no meals, that's for sure.


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[Assistant] I have to get ready for next year, so I am going to go work through the holidays on the gut.


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[Assistant] Me and B-Real not only have, you know, just interaction just through industry and seeing, being a big fan of Cypress Hill and Sindog and Mugs and Julio G, Fred Rack, all the, you know, the whole camp over there, Soul Assassins.


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[Assistant] But then, uh, we had a studio together in the, in the valley.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and it used to be Fleetwood Max Hole Studio.


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[Assistant] And I shared it with him for a while that he built a compound downtown and I took over that studio. And in that time...


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[Assistant] You know, it was really close to both of our houses. So we were able to go to that studio and work on his stuff and my stuff and eventually that's where the whole idea of making serial killers came from.


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[Assistant] He's really, you know, a kid from Philly, you know, out here just trying to make it. So, you know, that's how he got on and then eventually, you know, he started traveling with me and we got really tight and close so we trusted his creative process.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, this, this album was done, you know, about three, four weeks. We nailed it. Uh, seven songs, the EP, Stand Alone Project. Uhm, we were in the studio knocking this out. I think the last couple songs were done where we had to sit them around, cause...


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[Assistant] Um, Cyprus just dropped elephants on acid. Right. So he had to go support that movement and that push. So, uh, but it all came together. He made both things work.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I, I, I do still write, but I write differently.


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[Assistant] So uhm, a lot of that is about writing the beat and staying in the pocket. And so sometimes I'll write like paragraphs or I'll write little pieces, but I won't sit out and write a whole song in one sitting. Like I'll take bits and pieces and when I find a piece that I really, really like,


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[Assistant] Then I'll find a way to kinda clip it and groom it so they can connect to another piece that I really like.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, so I go in with an idea or I go in with a few lines written and then when I got that I listen back to it and then I know what to say on the next line.


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[Assistant] I do, I do. I have not done any shows in quite some time. And I've been really enjoying it.


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[Assistant] You know, and you know, I'm not 20 anymore. You know, so I think that in order for me to go back on the road, I had to go do this kind of reinvention of myself and reinvention of me as an entrepreneur. Reinvention of all that so I could change the narrative.


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[Assistant] I don't want to go out and have these promoters thinking that they can offer me one of the fucking nothing.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? To come out there and do what they know brings value and what they know brings a crowd, you know? Uhm, this shit ain't bad for me anymore. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] It is, it is. With something that you used to love so much and look forward to doing so much, now you have to do it or else shit gets turned off.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm really excited about putting this, this, this music out that we have. And not just for me, uhm, I have, I'm excited about the whole label. Open Bar Entertainment has been something I've been doing since 1995, 1996. And uhm, you know, finally coming to a place where not only is it, you know,


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[Assistant] Financially sound, but it's also got a team of people around it that want to see it do.


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[Assistant] And so, uhm, we are pushing towards that. This is our first endeavor, uh, putting out something through the, the, the


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[Assistant] Then we've, uh, not just gonna stay in music, we've developed a show, a series called Broken Ground.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that we're gonna reintroduce, you know, some artists through that as well. And then, on top of that, we have a new artist we signed from Albuquerque, New Mexico, uh, his name is Ben Shelton. Okay. Like Mercedes Benz. B-E-N-Z-S-H-E.


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[Assistant] L-T-O-N. Okay. You know? And uhm, it's pretty crazy what we have on the calendar, man. So, I'm excited about music again. Yeaah. You know?


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? And then you, then you got that crackish, anything with a torch, crack. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just don't like it. I just can't fuck with it. And I know that's some people's thing. They live with it. It's pure. It's pure THC. No, that's, that's, that's, that's the gateway drug.


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[Assistant] Yeah, do it that, man. I mean, if you need all that, man, just move on to some other shit. Just get to the point.


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[Assistant] No, I just, I've never done, I've never, you know, that's one of the things that my father taught me, like, you know, you're gonna go out, you're gonna have a lot of people that try to influence you to do other things, but never shoot anything in your vein, never sniff nothing up your nose, uhm, never ingest anything, you know, that is chemically based.


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[Assistant] You know, from somebody that you don't know. You know what I'm saying? And at all, even if you know them, like, they don't not your friend if they offer that to you.


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[Assistant] In fact, my, my, the artist, Benz, he, he, he does it all the time. Really? Yea, and he tried to explain it to me. And, uh, I just have no desire. Yea. I have no desire. He has a song called Free Your Mind that's, that's, that's all about that.


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[Assistant] And, and he puts it in a perspective and he described how it makes you feel and how you would touch with everything and you fucking can hear things and understand things and all this. I was like fuck, fuck that.


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[Assistant] I think what people don't realize is that life is about


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[Assistant] Not everybody is living the way that they portray on Instagram. That's a fact. Nobody posts their losses.


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[Assistant] Everybody posts when something is positive or they think it's positive.


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[Assistant] You know, there's, there's no happy medium. Uhm.


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[Assistant] So, I've learned to accept that. Not everything I do is perfect. Not everything I do is successful. But, you know, I see it as a chance to learn from my mistakes and do something better. And move on from it, you know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I found in my experience, so I try to live my life that way.


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[Assistant] Man, I hang out with my OBE family, you know, uhm, I hang out with my family, you know, I, I don't hang out in clubs and do all that shit, you know, uhm, we've been doing a lot of promotion in Vegas, I had to go do a, a club, uhm,


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[Assistant] I like to create, you know, and I stay, I feel better when I'm in that environment. And so I don't really hang out with a lot of people. There's a lot of people that have been out of touch with me, especially in going through a rough patch, man.


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[Assistant] You get to really see who your people are. You know, and so a lot of people wrote me off. A lot of people checked out. A lot of people was like distancing themselves from me. And so, uhm, I didn't get mad. I just like, okay, I took, I took note of it. And so when things took the upswing, you should have seen them phone calls start coming in.


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[Assistant] I don't have no resentment, I don't have no anger, I'm over all that. You know, what I will do is I will respect their decisions and I will keep them at the distance that they chose to keep, you know.


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[Assistant] Man, just, you know, I'm just thankful that they're listening.


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[Assistant] You know, the people that are listening, you know, and if you enjoy what you're doing, pass it on, you know, and uh, keep an eye out for Open Bar Entertainment. Uh, we're doing a lot of powerful, creative things, innovative things, and we can't wait to share it with the world.


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[Assistant] The Access Hollywood tape was a big surge.


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[Assistant] But then, you know, after it had run 400 times on television, it fell off. The pedestrian emails kept getting dribbled out.


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[Assistant] It was cyber mixed with information warfare.


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[Assistant] And the press, the New York Times included, became the handmaid into the process because these emails couldn't be ignored as news. They were newsy. They were out there. It's not like you could ignore it and not write about it.


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[Assistant] But in writing about it, you're doing the work that Vladimir Putin had in mind.


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[Assistant] It was awesome. Cleveland Heights is such a beautifully unique area. It's got incredible diversity of culture, incredible diversity of income. Like, you kind of get a great grasp of a lot of different things in this country growing up there. And we're truly blessed to go there, to go to school in Cleveland Heights High School. We love growing up in the Heights.


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[Assistant] Chaos, but uh, but enjoyable chaos. Yea, I think it was a lot of fun, lot of broken windows, lot of uh, uh, shattered things around the house that my parents had to deal with, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Man, it was, it was one thing after the other. We played all, as many sports as you could play, music, uh, martial arts, I mean we did everything, and my parents did it in us.


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[Assistant] Oh, Travis, he's uh, it's not even a question. My dad used to threaten that he'd let me hit him if he kept antagonizing me. And then one time they did let me hit him and my mom said, not in the face!


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[Assistant] Yeah, you dream about it. I mean, I think we more dream about being on the same team, but this is pretty good. It's close enough. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Xiaobei.


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[Assistant] No, those are different. You sure? I got them just for signing up. That's still more than somebody who ain't signed up at all. You should be proud. If the point were a snake, it would have bit ya.


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[Assistant] Hey there, my name is Romi and this is Nojumper. So I was born here in the heart of LA, uhm, in mid-city. Pretty much grew up in the same one mile vicinity my entire life and for all 18 years I've been on this earth, I've been in mid-city. My parents are honestly


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[Assistant] Two of my favorite people, uhm, they both came from very different places in California, uh, both very different backgrounds and both of them absolutely love music, so.


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[Assistant] Thanks to them always, always playing music as a kid and my mom singing to me. Uh, they're honestly my first influences when it came to me wanting to make music. I was growing up, I was raised mostly on 80's electronica techno music and classic rock and


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[Assistant] I wanna say world music is kind of a weak way to put it, but everything from reggae to Jackson 5 to...


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[Assistant] Coco Rosie to Bjork to David Bowie, like, honestly everything.


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[Assistant] I realized really quickly being in a classroom and being forced to sit still was just really not my shit. I've always loved learning, but school in general is very confined, like...


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[Assistant] Not that you have to feel like you're in a box, but you are literally in a box. Like they make you sit down, they make you do shit you don't wanna do, you're not supposed to talk when people are talking, and...


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[Assistant] Adults don't let kids speak when they want to or why kids can't be part of certain conversations, so.


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[Assistant] From preschool all the way through the only year I was ever in high school.


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[Assistant] I developed a love for learning, but a lack of love for the school system, and


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[Assistant] Okay, one of the biggest mistakes I ever made, honestly, was trying to get into this, like, arts high school in LA that was supposedly, like, one of the biggest, best in the country. And I really wanted to go for music and vocals. I got picked out of choir in sixth grade because they said I couldn't sing with the group.


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[Assistant] And that could crack me for a minute, but I was like, fuck that, I'm gonna audition for this art school. Uhm, and I tried singing.


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[Assistant] I tried singing two different, very bold songs, and I tried to get in for theater as well, because I knew my chances were slim. But I did not get in for vocals. And...


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[Assistant] The biggest mistake I made was choosing to go to the art school for theatre.


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[Assistant] And so I dropped out after one year. I said, fuck this shit. And I graduated on my own. When I was five, I started writing my first songs everywhere on the school bus. Like every day, my mom would take me just a few blocks from my home, luckily to the school bus stop. It was another school.


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[Assistant] And one of my best friends, Sully, and I were obsessed with Hannah Montana. And I got this Hannah Montana notebook from Target or some shit that I was supposed to be using for school. And that became like the first book I ever started writing songs in. And every morning on the way to school, me and her would like write songs, like with different parts.


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[Assistant] I was like, why would I want to be a normal girl in school when I could take like my passion for music and make that something? The first time I ever recorded was with an old friend of mine in their bedroom studio. And I had never actually been given the opportunity to record with people before. I wanted to start a band really badly at that art school I was at and like no one was about it.


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[Assistant] So, I said fuck yea, after I dropped out I met this kid who produced and...


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[Assistant] That was the first time I ever recorded in my life, when I was like 15. And...


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was really blessed that he actually found me. Uhm, I had done this cover of Bjork's Venus as a boy. One of my friends remixed the original beat and added this other sample towards the end and I was like, shit, this is


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[Assistant] I actually had recorded it on my iPhone headphones because I didn't have a computer like anything at my own home to do shit with.


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[Assistant] So, our manager, I guess, had found me through a photo he'd seen some kid took of me, and he noticed the Soundcloud link in bio was a cover of, honestly, I think one of View Express songs, and because of that song, he DM'd me, and... Yeah, that's how he found me.


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[Assistant] Since then, I have been kinda up and down, wanting to sign, not sign, realizing I could and should and... I feel like I've always been mixed on wanting to sign with a label, I'm not gonna lie, because of not wanting my own creative freedom, like, taken from me. But I'm at the point where I'm trying to sign.


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[Assistant] Going back to being like five, uh, actually going back to preschool. I was one of those kids that like, no matter what, my mom...


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[Assistant] Tried to get me to wear, I was usually not down at a certain point. Like, by the time I was five, I was...


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[Assistant] Going to school in like Halloween costumes or like Hutus and cowgirl hats and shit and I realized like how I dressed.


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[Assistant] Was honestly what brought me the most confidence, so my look overall expresses me and how I feel each day. Uhm, sometimes it's a lot more girly, sometimes it's a lot more tomboy, I guess. The best way to put it is...


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[Assistant] I realized my first form of self-expression was through the way I dress, how I wanted to present myself to the world.


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[Assistant] Because of my mom letting me wear whatever I want, I realized it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. You gotta wear what you want. Uh, my look being a part of me is...


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[Assistant] My look as, well, what am I saying? My look in general, uh, is always changing, and it's always changing, and it's what brings me comfortability in my own skin. There's this one


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[Assistant] DJ? I don't know where she's from, but her name's like, Sita Abellen. And...


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[Assistant] She's one of the coolest, she's one of the coolest females I've ever seen, like, just doing whatever she wants. It's always like a mix of all different things and I realized


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[Assistant] Being female, uh, I obviously like wearing dresses at times, but growing up in LA, like, you can't just wear a dress if you're taking the bus at night. Look, that's just not safe. So...


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[Assistant] Me being in hoodies and sweatpants is honestly kind of like my uniform because I'm just comfortable. I realize I can be who I am wherever I go, feel comfortable in what I'm in, and since I was little, Supreme has always been a favorite.


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[Assistant] I remember saving up my babysitting money to go and try and cop t-shirts back when you could just walk in the store and cop t-shirts. Uhm, another favorite brand of mine was Versace before Donatella Versace sold it to Marc Jacobs. But it's okay. I hope it lives on in spirit. Uhm, another favorite brand.


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[Assistant] Uh, Billby pretty much has been a friend of mine since I was 13 and one night, uh, he knew I was working on the project and I hadn't even sent him anything to be on.


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[Assistant] But one night, like the project was practically done. It was like a week before we were about to drop it. He sent me this little voice memo.


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[Assistant] And that's what I added to the beginning of the last track because it was super positive. It was honestly, like, I woke up to it and I was like, okay, this has gotta be on a song. Brandon's been a huge supporter of me, luckily, for years. I'm not gonna lie, I watched the Six Dogs interview earlier today and before he had


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[Assistant] Popped off a lot. I was really trying to work with him.


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[Assistant] And it didn't work, but I did do a cover of one of his songs in the past and he showed it love and I just remember that making my day. It was a cover of Fago Dreams.


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[Assistant] Billy Eilish recently followed me on Instagram and, uh, commented on the song I made with Cuban Doll. I met Cuban through my manager actually, uh, one of the first times I had ever gone to Capitol Records. Cuban was there having a meeting and


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[Assistant] I don't know, I was kind of starstruck because I remember uhm, one of my manager's friends basically put a-


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[Assistant] Uh, my first rap video I ever put out, which was a song called Bonnie and Clyde, and she was like, yo, this is hard, like, she wasn't even, it wasn't like even in front of her face, but,


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[Assistant] I have not hung out with her a lot, but she's a really, really kind person. Through and through, she's never treated me with any disrespect, and she's super goal-oriented, which I can tell.


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[Assistant] And that's how I've always been, that's how you gotta be, being a girl from...


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[Assistant] Long story short, I was like, what, 16 or 17? And I was at this party, on Mottos Avenue, upstairs from this, from this show. Who knows, not gonna expose anything.


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[Assistant] And I got invited kind of randomly by one of my old friends and I wasn't doing anything and he told me it was chill so I was like, you know, I'ma go. And I had my glasses taken from me at the party. These Gucci shades that I had just been given.