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[Assistant] Sometimes, but they never get along, they're all crazy. Not crazy, but like they end up bunheads and it's just war.


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[Assistant] Oh yea, dude, those girls are so catty and so jealous of each other of like who's more popular, who's getting booked more. Cause they can just tell who's like, it's super easy to tell who's getting booked more and everything. It's just, it's like rappers. That's why like you would never see like five lit rappers just living together.


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[Assistant] You got any of those left though? I feel like once you start blowing up and you start seeing all these models and shit, you probably like don't really want to go back to the girls you grew up going to school with.


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[Assistant] No, I thought about that too a lot of times. Everybody I went to high school with has had a lot longer to do something with their lives, but when I think about it, I don't think, I can't think of anybody who's done anything notable.


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[Assistant] There's one dude who, like I heard that he owned a bar. But I don't even know if that's true.


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[Assistant] That's gotta be weird for you. You feel like you're at risk when you're at home? Cause rappers are supposed to get killed in their own city.


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[Assistant] You don't worry about the, the jealousy is gonna get to people and they're gonna pull up on you?


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[Assistant] I understand. You gotta stay safe out here. Priority number one.


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[Assistant] A lot of our Florida heroes are not doing so great at this moment, so we gotta make sure we protect Jay Green at all costs.


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[Assistant] Can I just ask, is Jay Green a variation of your government name? Are you like, Jason Green? Yea, no. No?


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[Assistant] It's weird though that there's a bunch of Jay Greens, cause I'm gonna be honest with you, I interviewed this other rapper a while back named Jay Green, who used to rap with Lil Peep.


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[Assistant] If there's anyone else named Jay Green out there, we'd love to hear from you. But please don't start rapping.


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[Assistant] I'm the best. I respect that. Alright man, I appreciate you coming on the show and definitely we need to connect. I wanna see the new music and the new videos on the way bro. Let's get it.


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[Assistant] Did you feel like, well I know it caused this big controversy because it was such an emot, you had such a connection with Bradley that instantly, and I guess this is a compliment, people started saying like, oh, they must be, they must be in love.


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[Assistant] He flagged us down when Troy wasn't looking. Told us his plan. Mentioned he talked to you.


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[Assistant] She said she can get us out of the pen if we can get the PA system going. Second she hears it, she'll run over and spring us.


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[Assistant] The beast embodied Nichi's will to power, stopping at nothing to achieve its ends.


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[Assistant] The wolf had not passed by the door. War had not been wished away.


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[Assistant] That's a big deal to try to foot, man. That's OG Steve right there.


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[Assistant] So we can't just do the whole defensive line?


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[Assistant] Confidence that I have in a particular position group will probably be the Cleveland Browns offensive line.


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[Assistant] I look at the offensive line, you know, led by Tamejo Botonio, you got Wyatt Teller there, you got Ethan Poachers, you got Center, uh, we know what Jedrick, Jedrick Wills is, middle of the road tackle. I like the depth on the, uh, on the offensive line with Dewan Jones, uh, huge fan of, uh,


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[Assistant] Lord have mercy, he's sleeping, uh, James Hudson, huge fan of him. So, and then with the coach and Bill Callahan, I just like the unit. It's probably been the strongest most, you know, uh, the strongest unit, but it's probably been a unit that's,


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[Assistant] You can say that you trust the most, right, over the last couple years despite everything that the Cleveland Browns have gone through. The one thing that you know is, you know that the line is going to be coached up, you know more often than not that they're going to do their job, and they still by every category out there rank top five in the NFL, so.


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[Assistant] So it seems like we all had the same three maybe offensive line defense events in the cornerback room. Yeah, I'm okay with the cornerback room ranking when I look at this thing.


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[Assistant] I really think by the end of the season we could be talking about MJ Emerson being the best corner on the browns. I think the dude is a playmaker. If you look at all the statistical numbers that matter for cornerbacks, he was right there in the top team and damn near every category.


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[Assistant] He was the highest rated defensive back on the Cleveland Browns last year. This is a dude that we seen early on in preseason last year that can get his hands on the football, know how to make plays. I think his breakout game when you can argue with the Tampa Bay game, you know, when he went up there and locked up Mike Evans, um, you have Denzel Ward and Greg Newsome.


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[Assistant] Kind of playing more in their natural man to man, you know, typical style of play that they played in college, a style of play that they actually flourished in.


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[Assistant] Right? And so under Jim Schwartz and their scheme, you're going to be able to see these three particular defensive backs really be able to make plays. And because the defensive line is really the engine.


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[Assistant] That, that runs this thing. If the defensive line can get home, you know, you know, you have three bona fide playmakers. And then you talk about the depth, A.J. Green, an undrafted corner a couple years ago, who's


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[Assistant] Kinda shine bright, you know, in certain instances when he had his opportunities. Excited to see, see about the rookie Cam Mitchell. Uh, we know he's a baller. We've seen some of his tape. We've seen what he's done. And so it'd be interesting to see how this room collectively can raise their level of play.


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[Assistant] I know Denzel is, uh, corner one, you know, we've seen.


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[Assistant] And heard throughout OTAs about him traveling, playing a little bit in the slot. We know that Greg Newsome talked the other day about loving this particular scheme. And I'm just looking at it, you know, MJ Emerson is a guy that everybody is high on this year.


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[Assistant] And for all the noise about Denzel Ward, you look up and 23 is your best corner. Now you, you kind of got a serious lockdown on the lake going on.


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[Assistant] Let's see, we got the defensive end is one. We got corners too. We got the offensive line through. I'ma go with the quarterback room.


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[Assistant] We know what Deshaun Watson can be and what he's capable of when he's at, when all things are equal, right? We know the type of time that he has put in this off-season, studying film, learning the playbook, learning the system, and then we know that he had a huge part in constructing this entire quarterback room.


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[Assistant] And when you look at the rest of the quarterback room, you got a guy like Josh Dobbs, who's very intelligent. Uh, we've seen him a lot in preseason last year. We pretty much know what he can bring to the table.


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[Assistant] Then he goes on to Tennessee and he's able to ball out.


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[Assistant] You know, you get the rookie that you get out of UCLA who's another guy who fits the playing style of everybody else that's in that room. And so when I look at this room, I see a very intelligent, athletic group.


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[Assistant] And a bunch of guys that can seemingly make every throw make some plays with their legs and they all have this similar style of play. Now granted, something happens to Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. But if something happens to Deshaun Watson, you know, all bets are off. However, you do feel a little bit more confident.


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[Assistant] Knowing that you have two other guys, you know, especially in dives with some experience last year that can step in and you don't have to alter the offense like you did with Jacoby Brissette switching over to Deshaun Watson. You know, the terminology will be the same. A lot of the calls, a lot of the reads will be the same. So I think that I will put the quarterback room number


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[Assistant] Like y'all, y'all wrong. Just, I get it. Nick Chubb is the lead horse. Just like Deshaun Watson is the lead horse.


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[Assistant] I've seen Josh Dobbs here in Cleveland in a preseason. I've seen Josh Dobbs in real live game, like trenches type playoff atmosphere type situations. I've seen Jerome Ford in a preseason and a couple of times on kickoff returns.


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[Assistant] Let's go to DTR and then let's go to what, Demetri Felton.


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[Assistant] Exactly, either way, but if you go either way, you know, Felton's been in the league, what, two or three years?


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[Assistant] Okay, but, and we're talking about quarterback being the hardest position, right? Right. Look what Kevin Stefanski has done with the quarterbacks like prior to. So if you look at his track record, even forget the overall record of the team, but just look at how the previous quarterbacks have played under.


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[Assistant] Best baker he's ever played. Best reset you ever played. Hopefully you get the best Deshaun Watson that you ever got. So if you have a situation for whatever reason, you gotta go to Dobbs or you just gotta go to Dobbs.


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[Assistant] You took the experience he gained last year, plus knowing what Kevin Stefanski can do, I just think that's what gives them the edge as well.


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[Assistant] Alright, so I'm with G on this. I got the receivers above the safeties. We know what a Mario Cooper is, man.


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[Assistant] Duda's about a thousand yards, nine touchdowns every year. A lot of people believe, at least from the fantasy football standpoint, that he's probably going to have the best season of his career.


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[Assistant] I know he's kind of out for the next couple days. I know Kevin Stefanski talked to the media this morning. So he's still, he's still not practicing again.


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[Assistant] Not really worried about a Maury long term. As long as he's out there, I'm overly confident. And what he can do, I talked about, I felt like last year with DPJ Sillin and if his Sillin is somewhere around 700 yards, three or four touchdowns.


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[Assistant] I think Elijah Moore, when he came, uh, out of the draft into the NFL, there were a lot of expectations of this dude just being an all-out playmaker. Here's a dude who can play inside, outside. You can put him in the backfield. I see the Browns using Elijah Moore a lot like San Francisco used Debo Samuels.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so I think that's a bonus. You know, you did a lot of footwork on Cedric Tillman. We know that Jalen Wyatt was the big name talked about, but before Tillman got hurt, he was the man at Tennessee. You got a guy that


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[Assistant] Has a first round talent that slipped a little bit, maybe due to injuries, maybe due to some other things.


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[Assistant] And even though he is a rookie, you've seen a lot during OTAs, you've seen a lot during like a lot of the off-season programs that he's built some chemistry with Deshaun Watson already. You haven't heard anything about him putting the ball on the ground or anything like that or not being able to run his routes correctly. So.


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[Assistant] That's encouraging to hear. Uh, I read Mary Kay Cabriss reports, uh, this morning and there's a lot of talk coming out of the Greenbrier right now about David Bill being actually impressive.


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[Assistant] You know, due to the injuries to Marquis Goodwin and Omari Cooper not being there, he's getting more reps. And the beautiful thing about it is he's taking advantage of those reps, right? And then, you know, you got a lot of other young guys that's in that room.


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[Assistant] That has showed some flashes of some things. And then we got to keep in mind that when you talk about an elite quarterback or a guy that should be elite, like Deshaun Watson is going to elevate that entire group. So when I look at the wide receiver group and then I heard Deshaun Watson and read his body language as far as


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[Assistant] You know, him, him speaking the highly of the position group and seeming like that he had confidence and what they're able to do. I think that raises everything. So that's why I got the wide receivers above the, uh, the safety.


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[Assistant] I think you're pretty equal. I can understand that. You look at Juan Thornhill, man. He brings that winning pedigree, right? He brings that dog. He brings that ability to make plays. Uh, I'm a big fan of Grant Dope, but I think Grant Dope might be like one of those breakout players this year. One of those playmaker dudes that might actually score about two or three touchdowns this season by himself. Uh, I like that.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, I'm just saying, but when I look at it, I also like the addition of Rodney McLeod, man, somebody who's very familiar with Jim Shorts, but outside of that, I just feel like the wide receiver room has more familiar depth than with the


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[Assistant] And that's the team that you bring to camp. And you get the opportunity to really analyze that squad. See what's missing. See what's missing. See what works. See what's done. I do agree. You know, that speed element, uh, not being there, that's real. You know, we heard Ross talk and talk about it. You know, we heard Zach Jackson talk about it.


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[Assistant] Marquis Goodwin not being there is gonna have an impact because clearly he was a bigger part of what the Browns was doing that even we all thought, you know, we thought he was like a rotational guy, but clearly they got major plans for him. And so if, if he's not able


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[Assistant] To play due to his serious health issues, then you do need to like probably research how can you get another guy.


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[Assistant] Jason said this yesterday, do you all believe it that the Browns might only keep too tight ends? Yea.


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[Assistant] Alright, so can I, let me try to defend that real quick. Because...


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski know how to scheme somebody open. There's been guys, I get the dink and duck and you're right about that. But go back, watch the All 22 and watch some of those plays where the quarterback is making the choice.


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[Assistant] It's just a matter of the quarterbacks in the past and some of Deshaun Watson too, not making the right decision at the right time to hit the guy that's open down the field.


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[Assistant] Listen, we've talked about this at Nazium almost, right?


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[Assistant] But Kevin Stefanski did a great job of hiding what he didn't do well and exposing what he did do well. You turn around and then you got Jacoby Brissette and he does the same thing.


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[Assistant] quarterback that's limited in a lot of different areas, but let me hide where you're weak at and expose where your strengths are to put you in position to have success. We heard Deshaun Watson say two days ago.


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[Assistant] The entire playbook is open to me. And I think that's something that Kevin Stefanski has always envisioned once he took this job. I believe once he took this job,


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[Assistant] He had probably 5 to 10 pages of the playbook that he knew he had to keep on ice because he didn't have the proper quarterback to run some of the plays and so when we talk about


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[Assistant] Thirteen personnel or this package and that package.


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[Assistant] We have to understand that there's a whole nother level of this that he's been waiting to unlock. It seems like since he's gotten here, you know, I think that he thought that year two of Baker, he would have had a more opportune time to do so, but Baker didn't take the off season seriously. And when he didn't take it seriously, he couldn't grow.


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[Assistant] Again, Jacoby Brissette is what Jacoby Brissette is, but looking at Deshaun Watson and knowing that he has the capability to make every throw to know that he's a quarterback that knows how to read defense and then to know finally that yeaah, he's getting plays, but Kevin Stefanski is giving him the freedom


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[Assistant] To change the play and get the Browns in the right situation. I think that you're going to see.


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[Assistant] This marriage between Deshaun Watson and Kevin Stefanski blossomed and I think that Kevin Stefanski is going to get back to earning some of the respect that he should have as the head coach of the Cleveland Brown. I'm excited for year four, uh, uh, Kevin.


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[Assistant] It's not about the $230 million guarantee, G. It's just simply people do not like Deshaun Watson. You know, and I can understand the allegations, right? And I can understand that everything that comes with that. And everybody has a right to feel how they want to feel, right? If you want to judge this man, if you want to have this opinion of him, fine, whatever.


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[Assistant] Just say it, right? It's not about the 230 million. It's about you not liking him. And like I said yesterday, some people have made up their mind that they're never gonna like him. That no matter what happens, you can't change that.


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[Assistant] But I think when I look at Andrew Berry, Jimmy and Dee Haslam, I gotta give them respect. Why? Because there's an emotional side to everything that happened with Deshaun Watson, but then there's a professional business side of things. And once they knew that this man was not finna get indicted, he was not about to get charged, meaning he was not finna go to prison, then they had to seek, they had to go get their quarterback.


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[Assistant] 25 year old elite quarterbacks do not come available all the time. And so yeah, they understood you.


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[Assistant] Backlash that would come with the emotions tied to the situations that


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[Assistant] He was tied to, but when you look on the professional side of things, this is an organization that's been starved of a franchise quarterback since Bernie Kozar.


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[Assistant] And if you got an owner like Jimmy Haslam who's willing to do whatever it takes to win, then I think that's something that fans should applaud. That's something that you should appreciate, that you got an owner that's willing to foot a $230 million


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[Assistant] Bill, just for the opportunity to bring this city a championship. And I think if people change their perspective and change how they thought about it, maybe they would appreciate it more. Nobody's saying that you gotta like Deshaun Watson the man. You don't even know the man.


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[Assistant] So of course you, how you don't like somebody you don't know, but if you're a fan of the Cleveland Browns and you understand what his level of football play can bring to your organization and the opportunities that come with it, then you gotta respect your honor going out there and do it. Now to answer your question, do I think a quarterback will get


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[Assistant] More fully guaranteed money than Deshaun Watson? No. I think the days of


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[Assistant] And everybody got their own reason for how they want their cut contract structure in a certain way. I think that Burl might end up somewhere between 222, but I think that Trevor Lawrence is going to be the guy that's at the right place at the right time. If he continues to boil out that might surpass that 230 million.


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[Assistant] To see and hear other people say, well, this person is overpaid. That person, the other paid like,


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[Assistant] I don't know where y'all come from, but you don't go around counting other people's pockets.


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[Assistant] You don't go around tapping on other people's pockets, worrying about how much money they got and how they footing the bills that they have. Especially if you're not the person that's paying that bill. If you a fan, sit back and be a fan. Jimmy Haslam is not knocking on your door saying, hey, let me get a million dollars to go towards this contract.


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[Assistant] Let this man do what he do, and it's up to Andrew Barry to manage the salary cap that's given to him. He's entrusted with that job, so let them do their job. When somebody says, this person is not worth this, or this person shouldn't be paid like that, I think it's highly disrespectful, because take the title athlete off, right? Anybody in their profession


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[Assistant] Male, female, any race or creed, right? You want to be paid swell. And somebody paying you a high salary is a sign of respect of you and the work that you put out there. So when you out there saying, this person shouldn't be paid this, check yourself. What if somebody at your job was telling you, you shouldn't be making the money that you was making?


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[Assistant] You can critique that with anybody. I'ma say just about anybody except for Patrick Barnes, right? We talked about this yesterday. You know, Justin Herbert got $218 million fully guaranteed.


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[Assistant] But, you can also look on the flip side of it. In his first three years in the NFL, he's in the top three. You know what I mean? While playing in the same division with Patrick Arons, he's in the top three in damn near every passing category.


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[Assistant] And so like, yeaah, everybody is entitled to their opinion. But for me, you know how I am. There's a, there's a human aspect to every, everything I say when we talking sports. You don't want nobody counting your pockets. Stop counting other people's pockets.


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[Assistant] I don't know because people got their opinion. I don't get mad at people who disagree. That's why the world is the way it is. That's why we have a show.


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[Assistant] But, Jedrick Wills is the middle of the road left tackle, right? We can all agree about that. He's not the worst thing that you've ever seen. He's not the best thing you've ever seen. He's average.


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[Assistant] And you can get by with average as long as the rest of the parts is moving in the right direction. That's the same thing that we said about Baker Mayfield. Yeah, we know Baker Mayfield is not the best quarterback in the NFL, but he's not the worst that we've seen, especially in Cleveland. And when you have a rookie year like that, now you convincing yourself mentally, you know what?


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[Assistant] I can get by with this average quarterback. I can get by with this average piece on my roster. And I think that sometimes fans are afraid of what's on the other side of average, you know, because you can realistically go in the wrong direction and end up with a player that's much worse.


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[Assistant] But you can roll the dice and you can end up with a player that's much better as well. And I think that sometimes, man, we get a little complacent with average, right? We get a little complacent with just being good enough.


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[Assistant] And I don't know if it's because of people being afraid to roll a dice or because the Browns have had so little success.


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[Assistant] That the fact that you see somebody that's just okay, it makes it good enough for you. And so when I hear these conversations about why the Browns should keep Judging Wheels versus moving on, it just sounds, it's a lot of similar talking points on why people thought we should keep Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] But before G go, I'll say this to your point. I agree with you because if something happened to him, that's who's protecting your quarterback, but also look at it like.


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[Assistant] Knowing that Deshaun Watson has his hands pretty much on the entire offense, and that he has a say in a lot of the things that's going on, he used to got us out here working with these offensive lines.


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[Assistant] And I'm pretty sure that if they decided to move on from the left tackle, that they'll have a conversation with the franchise quarterback. And so me and you talked about this off the record. You know, if Deshaun Watson was to give the okay because he trusted the other guys that was next in line.


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[Assistant] Listen, all I'ma tell you is why he's doing that, man. There's no doubt in my mind that I'm giving Nick Tubb an extension before I give Jedrick Wilson an extension. Facts! Right? I got two or three guys on that offensive line right now.


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[Assistant] That can, I believe, next year, if not this year, can step in and fill the same role with the same production with less money, you know, that, that Judge Williams did this year. I, I think that


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[Assistant] You know, I thought about what you said. I do believe Nick Tell will get an extension. I think it will be a restructured extension, but I ultimately think he's going to get that. I think he's going to get that. We all know the running back market is devalued. We all know where we are with that market.


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[Assistant] But a few things that Andrew Berry says Sunday sticks out to me. He talked about he believed that Nick Chubb is a superstar.


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[Assistant] He talked about that, yeaah, even though the running back market is devalued because of the way that the league is trending, you still have to look at every situation by case by case scenario and then focus in on that specific player. And when I think about Nick Tubba, I always ask myself the same question.


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[Assistant] It's this dude in that rare air, like Adrian Peterson and Lydianian Thomason. And if the answer is yes, he falls into that category, then yeah, I'm giving him an extension. Because it's not always about what you do on the football field. This is a young man that embodies everything that you want within your organization.


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[Assistant] When you talking about somebody that represents the franchise, he's it.


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[Assistant] He shows up for work. He shows up on time and he does his job. And then when he's away from the facility, you can trust him to do the things that he needs to do. And I think when you look at him as an individual, you can't just group him in with the rest of the running backs because I think this is a special man and a special talent.


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[Assistant] The only thing I'm worried about with Conklin, of course, is the injuries, right? If he's healthy, I trust that he can get out there and handle his business. But if he's not...


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[Assistant] Jedrick Wills played right tackle at Alabama. And I think you can slide him to right tackle and maybe he can be more productive. But that's all precedent on James Hudson taking the next step. Dewan Jones developing into who we think he is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he played right there too. So it's, it's, it's one of those situations to where, you know, you got some options. I like the depth. I like the fact that you got a multiple guys on the offensive line that could play multiple positions. And of course you got Bill Callahan coaching them up. So it kind of keeps me confident that no matter what happens, that that group would be okay.


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[Assistant] I mean to me the trade was a wash. Like I think I asked you the question.


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[Assistant] They're not better or worse. You can't really call them buyers or sellers based on this move. But when you look at it, it frees up space to get a better look at some of these prospects we talk about. You needed it. We talk about the Guardians having 6 or 7 of the top 100 prospects.


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[Assistant] And about three or four of these guys are middle infielders. So you want to be able to see these middle infielders get the opportunity to show that they can be pros.


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[Assistant] When it comes to Amara Zorio, it's not like the dude was all that good, right? You said he was probably the worst defensive shortstop in Major League Baseball. This is a dude batting 267 with three home runs. So it's not like, and he was a guy that the Guardians was not going to extend.


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[Assistant] We talked about ad nauseam. This was gonna be guy, one of the guys between him and Shane Bieber that were gonna probably be moved, be moved before the trade deadline. He gets moved and it's like people go crazy.


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[Assistant] What did you think you were going to get for Amara Zaria? You wasn't going to get prospects, right? And as far as like getting CineGuard back,


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's way past that 2016 New York Mets guy. He's a veteran pitcher and the one thing about a guy who you know has done it before and then you compare, you marry that with this organization who does a great job of getting the best out of pitchers. I think it makes sense, especially when you just need an arm.


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[Assistant] You have so many guys. You have so many guys in a rotation that's either injured or has reached this quota of innings pitched that now you just need a guy that's serviceable and can fill it out. Think about this.


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[Assistant] Our top three guys are hurt. And then the young guys, Bybee, Allen, and Gavin Williams, they all started in the minor leagues. So that pitch clock was already.


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[Assistant] But I got a question for both of y'all. Are they gonna make a move to let us know what side of defense that they're on? Because we still don't know what side of defense that they're on.


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[Assistant] You know, the other side of this that I'm gonna really enjoy is, you know, with him gone, uh, I think Oscar's gonna play tonight.


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[Assistant] This is, we don't know if they're buyers or sellers, but what I can look at is saying okay, they're a 500 team.


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[Assistant] They've been a 500 team all season. They've not had some crazy losing streak and they've not had some winning streak that like overly wowed you. This is who this team is. It's a lot of young raw talent and maybe they're lining themselves up to see, okay, let's just see what we have with these guys that


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[Assistant] I just want Oscar to come back and solidify himself like he did last year, man.


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[Assistant] You know, what he was last year or better, I think that would go a long way in helping this entire offense. Um, I'm really excited for this game tonight. I think that, you know, you're going to see this lineup. It'd be interesting to see.


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[Assistant] How many hits they have, how many runs they score, how Tito kinda like puts this line up together. And I'm excited to see it. I'm looking forward to seeing these young prospects get more opportunities. Um, Amal Rosario was a guy that was


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[Assistant] 10 times out of 10, not going to be on the roster at the end of this year anyway. So I'm not surprised by it. We got something back. I'll take something over nothing every single time.


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[Assistant] Like we don't disrespect each other. And I think that's the thing that's dope. Like we're able to have healthy disagreements, right? Like sometimes like,


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[Assistant] That's, that's good for you. You know, you just don't cross those lines of like, like insulting people or, or just being personal. Like I keep telling people, you never know who you see in person. Sometimes you gonna have to stand on some of the words. Be careful, man.


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[Assistant] Let's be honest, everybody sitting right here is sitting up here right now, right?


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[Assistant] As soon as this topic came up and I'm thinking about what I'ma say, I still got that, I am still bothered by what he said. I'm not gonna sit up here and lie and say I'm not, right? The fact that he said the lights was too bright, the fact that I've, I've, I've physically watched my team like run and hide and didn't show up and square up and fight.


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[Assistant] That's really disturbing, so I can look at the 9th place ranking and be like, okay, well, the Cavs should be higher, but they kinda earned that 9th place ranking, if I'm being all the way honest with you.


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[Assistant] I'm just, I'm kidding. And maybe it's the emotions, y'all like.


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[Assistant] This is my thing when it comes to the cast. I think the cast is a very, very talented basketball team, right? I just question this. I don't think this is something that you can work on over the summer. I agree.


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[Assistant] If you a sucker, you a sucker. If you really about that life, you really about that life. If you somebody that's, if you're an alpha, you're an alpha. You just don't go to bed and wake up with this new found heart that you never had. And guess what? If you trying to go out there and be fake and put it on display, you gonna get exposed.


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[Assistant] He did nothing. He did nothing. And then every time he get asked about Draymond, he just kinda like turned his lips up. Like no, you can't, you cannot do that. A man got- Look, you seen The Wire, right? Right. You heard what Omar said, man, a man gotta have a code. You gotta have a code, man.


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[Assistant] He's already not the alpha male in that situation. He's already, he already know how, how this is and then that gets out and it's like we all knew it. There's no way in hell he can play for the Warriors next year. It was done. It's just not gonna happen.


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[Assistant] I think it's fair at this particular point, and I think that, you know, again, talented team.


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[Assistant] I just want to know if you got the heart. I don't have no fancy, I don't have no fancy analysis for it or anything like that. I'm still disappointed in how they performed in the playoffs. For me, I know the talent is there. Got the shooters. Talent is half the battle. Do you got the heart?


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[Assistant] The regular season helps you prepare for the playoff. Right. So absolutely, there's things that I can see in a regular season that could change the narrative. There's going to be times this season that the Cavs are tested and how they show up, that, you know, it'll tell a lot.


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[Assistant] Somebody said masterpiece, I've had masterpiece. Masterpiece is really, really good.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's like three or four locations. Hey, Mass of Peace, did y'all see this, man? Give UCSS a call. Seriously.


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[Assistant] Well, I hate all of them, so I'ma say, I hate the bangos the least.


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[Assistant] That's like, nobody really hates they little brother for real.


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[Assistant] The Ravens is, they used to be us, so whatever, but like, I really, really hate the Steelers.


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[Assistant] And what's crazy is that's the reason I don't. Like, I like hats. You see, I wear different hats. I don't get down with the whole P.A., Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh still is numb. And I remember being, I don't remember, I've seen pictures of me as a baby. I was born in 87 and I'm sitting on my grandfather's lap.


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[Assistant] Going to AFC Championship game in January of 88. So, like, no, I was born into this, man. I can't stand a person.


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[Assistant] We're not talking about hardball. And of course people gonna fact-tack it, but my grandfather told me this, you know, that year that they moved, they had two pick. I think they had the 26 pick and the third pick. It took Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis.


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[Assistant] Sunday is like the most relaxing day. So I will go Sunday.


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[Assistant] Uh, saturday, friday. Friday is last cause no matter what, I gotta get up and be at the station at 430 for this guy.


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[Assistant] Uh, to me, it's in that order, just on the strength like, you know, Shaq is the most dominant player I've ever seen play. Uh, I remember Hakeem vividly, I've never seen Bill Russell play. That's the only reason. It's like that for me.


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[Assistant] So, I, I started flying for real, probably like within the last five years. And I used to be afraid. The moment I stepped on a plane, there was a rat. And I'm also a dude who really don't have much patience. I would book, I would fly to Columbus before I drive to Columbus.


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[Assistant] So like, I would go playing automobile. I didn't get on no train either. You seen the real?


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[Assistant] Hispanic and black thugs tend to attack Asians. Blacks are incapable for being responsible for themselves.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Garrett, I don't know that I can be the tiebreaker here because although I've believed for a long time that Nick Chubb is the exception to many rules, and I believe talent-wise and what he can do on a team that wins games, right, that plays with the lead, and all of that stuff could make him that,


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[Assistant] The reality is, this is his age 27 season, he turns 28 at the end, uh, this is year 6, and his cap number next year and the last year of his deal is a lot, and it's easy for them to move on from, right?


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[Assistant] You know, he might be here next year, and he might have a huge year this year. I think he probably will. But...


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[Assistant] You know, beyond that and when it comes time to make these decisions, it probably has to be played by the book because the quarterback makes so much money. They have a ton devoted to the offensive line.


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[Assistant] The, the passing because you want to see this offense grow. But what are we seeing? I don't know. So of course this means something. They wouldn't be here if it didn't. And with a new defensive coordinator, new special teams coach, and basically a new quarterback, they're building.


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[Assistant] They're just trying to get out of here healthy and they're just saying, look, we have X amount of practice. We have six and a half weeks until we play a game.


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[Assistant] But honestly, like it's easy to say team bonding, but a lot of it is the reality of this isn't old school camp, right? You can't keep guys, uhm, two and a half hours on the field and then five and a half hours in the meeting rooms and then do the exact same thing five days in a row.


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[Assistant] What matters here is the team bonding, forcing these guys to be friends, trying to force them to be a team, right? A lot of meetings, a lot of walkthroughs, and just building foundation. A week from tomorrow, the young guys are gonna play, and they're not gonna have really done any live tackling, much of anything. It's going to be ugly, but they're gonna see who stands out then. And from there,


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[Assistant] Camp in terms of competitions and refinement rather than installation will start off, but right here they are jogging through the motions. They're having a lot of meetings and they are stuck deep in Southern West Virginia where they have to hang out with one another.


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[Assistant] But I think you're gonna see for one or two drives to Sean Watson, uh, on August 11th at home.


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[Assistant] Is he aware of this? Yes, but I think when he's talked to those he trusts, and I'm talking about Kevin here, going to his coaches, going to the front office members and saying, we know what's at stake here. We know how ready we have to be.


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[Assistant] This is an experienced team. The defense is new. It has to be, right? But these guys have played together and I don't think they're going to push too many buttons. I think they're going to trust the staff continuity even with the changes. I think they're going to trust the offensive line continuity and I think they're going to say,


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[Assistant] Rather than pushing the preseason and take too many risks, we're going to play this for 17 and we're going to rely on the element of surprise.


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[Assistant] In the element of a very fresh Zedaria Smith, Myles Garrett and the other guys to beat the Bengals in week one, which I think they can do. So it's a long, long way away, but I don't think there's anything that's making Kevin Stephanie get off of how he wants to run camp.


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[Assistant] Or make him say that there's anything they could really do to make these games.


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[Assistant] Well, I want to see more of Cedric Tillman-Tyvis. I mean, he's big, he's smooth, uh, you know, we haven't seen a ton out of him and they haven't really seen him let it rip. He scored a touchdown yesterday on Greg Newsome, Newsome claiming push off, and the next time Newsome didn't let him get off the line. It was, it was like the first kind of training camp thing that we've seen, right?


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[Assistant] So I think he'll play one or two series in the big tackle. Siaki Hiko will play one or two series, but Kellen Mann is going to start the game. He's not a rookie. He might as well be one here with the Browns.


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[Assistant] You know, guys like John Kelly, they're not going to get many chances, right? Anthony Schwartz has not been in camp. So if you're Dale and Baldwin, if you're Mike Harley, like these are your chances.


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[Assistant] To make plays in these games. So, you know, the young defensive lineman, Alex Wright.


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[Assistant] We played a lot last year, didn't record any stats. He needs to get out there. They drafted Isaiah McGuire. Those guys are basically competing for one role. So I think all the rookies will be up, but other than that, it's mostly going to be more third team guys than second team guys in Canton. It's going to be a lot of running, get the hell out of there, right? And then then we'll see where it goes from there because in the following week they will have.


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[Assistant] Uh, a couple of real practices and I think they'll, they'll start to turn the page in camp from the basic installation stuff to the next stuff. But really the Hall of Fame game is going to be for those bottom of the roster guys to let it rip and try to make an impression.


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[Assistant] Well right now Harrison Bryant's ahead and just watching the lines, but I think the easy answer is Jordan Akins. I think they signed him because they see it as a clear upgrade in the number two tight end position, right? And he has the history.


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[Assistant] Uh, with Watson. He's big. He knows where to be. He's played a lot in the NFL. So to me it's that. Now last year,


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[Assistant] He didn't make the Giants coming out of camp, um, but he ended up in Houston and had a decent year and the Browns, you know, he wasn't a top priority for the Browns because he wasn't a defensive lineman, right? But the Browns saw him as a priority and feel fortunate to get him. So I believe there's a way better chance that Jordan Akins is a part of this offense than Harrison Bryant and probably


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[Assistant] You know, probably a bigger, better chance that he's a part than like the David Bells and Anthony Schwartz's that we're talking about. So to me, the only development here guys from a real like football and how it's going to go standpoint is Marquis Goodwin will be a significant loss because he was going to have a role on this team.


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[Assistant] And that's real speed that can tie up the safeties to let Najoku and let Elijah Moore work underneath. And if Marquis Goodwin's not here, that affects who makes the team and potentially it affects how you get defended, you know, going down the road.


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[Assistant] Yeah, one day he did it in the spring and I think he's mixed in here. It's mostly been Greg Newsome. So the only thing, like I said, it's a lot of fun to watch and listen to the defensive line. Uhm, and I certainly, when they break the huddle, tie this for seven on seven or for that stuff I'm looking, it's mostly been Newsome. It has been the other guys mixed in.


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[Assistant] But the thing that's notable is like, the top two linebackers have been Jordan Konasik and Phillips. And so we know they're just bringing the other guys along slowly and like in Walker and Taketaki's case, super slowly, they won't do any contact for three weeks. Probably not at all, right? Just depending on where they are.


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[Assistant] But if the Browns are ever in a spot where Konasik and Phillips are actually playing, then they're in big trouble. So you're just kind of seeing guys mix in now and we'll see. It's much more fascinating with what happens on the D-line because we know they want to move Zidarius inside.


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[Assistant] In a lot of their nickel stuff, but Ziderius looks like he lost about 15 pounds. Uhm, so, I'm counting on Greg Newsome being the slot almost all the time.


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[Assistant] And I'm more interested as they go forward and mix and how they're going to mix and match those defensive linemen. And then ultimately are they going to bring another guy in? Because we know Jordan Elliott has not played like a starter really at any time in his previous three years, but he still is the starter right now.


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[Assistant] So the D lineman work right in front of there, uh, I just happened to be on the side and I saw this one day. I think they've been doing it every day, but it's nothing that really struck me because I've seen it before.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that just of what the Schwartz defense is going to be, there's going to be the wide nine and we've seen that, right? And the D-line are going to be asked to get up the field and you know, we know that what Miles is good at, we know what Zadarius can do.


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[Assistant] Uhm, every drill that they do is a sprint towards the quarterback crashing down. And I think the idea is that the linebackers are just more free. Right? Of course they have responsibilities and of course they're making reads. But I think it's less. I think it's they're supposed to follow the D line.


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[Assistant] In, in, you know, just kind of track the play and let them go. And we know JOK is very instinctual. We know we've seen JOK make rare closings with rare closing speed. So I think that's, that's the idea on.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I know the idea is for Okawanko to play outside on third down, on second and long, right? So this team has to stop the run and get there. Uhm, and, and Newsom and the safeties are gonna have to make plays because teams are gonna run the ball and teams are gonna screen them like crazy to try to take advantage of that aggressiveness. But the whole idea here is for that D-line to cause havoc, to mix and match.


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[Assistant] Fewer double teams for miles, almost no double teams for Zidarius. They want to create turnovers. They want Deshaun Watson to score points. And then the fourth quarter, they want to get the ball to Nick Chubb. So for all the fancy stuff, that's the blueprint and we'll see how often they can get there. Cause it hasn't been, you know, last year that was a struggle.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he's way more explosive than David Bell. So, you know, he's probably, like, David Bell is probably, like, the traditional backup slot receiver, and they go in there, and they trust to be in the right place. Where Darden is more of like, if something would happen to Elijah Moore, he can do a lot of that moving around stuff, so.


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[Assistant] Guys, ultimately we know Amari Cooper is the number one receiver, right? And we know that Cooper...


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[Assistant] More and David Najoku can be moved around, like they all have that flexibility. And when you watch in the spring and you watch here, you see Elijah Moore everywhere. Inside, outside, motioning into the backfield, motioning out of the backfield. So they kind of see him as the missing piece from last year. And then Goodwin was going to have a role, you know, playing on the outside and stretching those safeties out. So.


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[Assistant] Where does all that fit? Can Tillman really push for playing time? You know, just Jalen Darden make the team or do I just not know what I'm talking about? We'll see.


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[Assistant] But yea, Goodwin was going to have a role, so that affects both the roster makeup, like I said, and kind of the makeup of the play calling, where he just had such rare speed, that even if you weren't throwing it to him, the safeties had to respect it.


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[Assistant] So he could be that guy that makes it as a returner and then, you know, kind of that backup to Elijah Moore. To this point, he's not really in the mix and my personal thought is that he won't be.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, if he's in the Philly practices, if he's at the end and he's healthy, he does have that speed. I mean, they gave him some, some real money last year and they thought that he could help them in addition to being a pump return. He just hasn't been in the mix. So talking about what I've seen, I just haven't seen him.


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[Assistant] So I, I, I definitely could be wrong in dismissing him. At the same time, I would be at least a little bit surprised if he's ultimately on this 53-minute roster.


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[Assistant] I mean, Tomlinson's been very durable. Uhm, he plays, you know, different spots and he's gotten to the pass for a little bit. I mean, the thing is, Tyvus, you know, they lost him at 325. They just, they didn't have anybody over 305 last year, right? At least not, they played a lot. So, uhm, Hurst can play. He's played in this league. He's made plays. He's just been hurt the last two years, two games over two years.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't think they ever thought Paragon Winfrey was going to make the team. I could be wrong on that. Uh, I can't imagine that they did. So we'll see. I think that's a position they're monitoring. I think from a personnel standpoint, they came down here with the idea of


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[Assistant] This is an orientation camp. This is the team bonding camp for the top half of the roster. And once we leave here, once we get to Canton and then back to Korea, then we'll start to worry about those, those battles that are going to happen from 30 to 70.


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[Assistant] Fixing that D line right now. It's just the basics. We know it's Dalvin and I think there's an open invitation for anybody to come beat out Jordan.


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[Assistant] Drew Forbes has played. Michael Dunn has been here for three years. You know, he started that playoff game when Antonio couldn't play because of COVID. Um, he's really played five positions in practice. They've only needed him in games a couple of times, but he's, he's played a little bit since that playoff game and then he's landed on IR in each of the last couple of years. So.


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[Assistant] Trying to see what James Hudson can do. It's kind of a make or break year for him, even though he's got two, two left on his rookie contracts. And they're bringing in Dewan Jones, who's only practiced twice, you know, to this point. So I do think Harris makes the team. Uh, I think either Dunn or Drew Forbes makes the team.


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[Assistant] You know, I think James Hudson could eventually, if it doesn't work a tackle, move inside to guard and we'll see.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, and click, then it will be a strength again. They don't want to have to worry about the tackle depth and go through some of the things they did. But I do think like if, if they needed Nick Harris to play guard or center, that they would feel good about it. And again, he's, he's not a lock for me, but I feel pretty confident he's going to be on the team.


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[Assistant] You have all of these people who were never taken seriously by the establishment, now are the establishment.


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[Assistant] Then, the night started and everyone was like, who's gonna win? And every black person I know was like, who cares as long as it's not Green Book? Then, woo right back at ya.


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[Assistant] I was rooting for Glenn Close because we feel the same way about Billy Porter's outfit. Check out what she did when she saw it on the red carpet.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, I like them. I love it too. I do, and I'm not, you know, big uniform guy. I know you're not, yeaah. But I do think they're cool. I think they're the nicest, the Browns have had since I've been here. Yeaah, I agree with that. Yeaah. I agree with that. I really like the helmets, I think they're cool.


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[Assistant] I'm like losing my mind. Last night I was, I've been pretty calm, but last night we had these crazy storms coming through the area and I'm like to one of my wives, I'm like, what if they lost power at camp? Because usually every other day they sent a bunch of pictures


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[Assistant] Right. To a Facebook group that we could see. What a great idea. Right. And every day there was at least one picture of him and I'm like, okay, you know, we know he's still alive.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yesterday they didn't send any pictures, and then there's these crazy storms came through the area. Is he close? Is he nearby?


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[Assistant] So somebody, somebody I noticed last night tweeted at the Facebook group and said, are the kids okay?


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[Assistant] I know. And what's awesome is we're picking him up tomorrow morning and then tomorrow afternoon he and I are flying to New Jersey. Wow. And we're going to see Billy Joel at the Garden on Monday.


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[Assistant] It's amazing, and I'm taking my oldest friend, like my oldest friend Andy, he and I have seen Billy Joel five times together, including the first time together when we were 15 years old in October of 86. So the three of us are going together.


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[Assistant] I saw him at the garden three years ago? Four? No, I've been just before COVID, so maybe four, four years ago.


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[Assistant] He and Springsteen, both, even, they're both approaching 70, I think? Or maybe Springsteen's already 70? They've got so much energy, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I mean, Thriller was just insane. That was insane. And all be all for me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, to be this big a star the way the music industry is now compared to when we were younger is pretty amazing. I mean, people are incredible.


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[Assistant] Javis, what happened yesterday? What happened? Because I think G brought up the point that you would, you might have had a heart attack if you had been on the show yesterday. Oh, wonderful.


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[Assistant] So, Jason and I were apoplectic, but I think you would have been even worse. Uh, yes, uh, Andrew Berry won Best GM in Berlin.


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[Assistant] Right. I think, I obviously thought it was the guardians. It is the guardians. I can see it. At least an argument for the Cavs. You could say he's done a better job in the last year. You could argue that. I would have them number two. Yes, without a doubt.


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[Assistant] Well, if we're gonna argue that, then the Cavs have made the biggest splash movie in the last year.


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[Assistant] If they make a deep run in the playoffs this year, we could have a different discussion.


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[Assistant] There's a bunch of guys, and Jedrick Willis is certainly one of them. I consider it Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] A above average tight end. And even that is stretching maybe a little. Average to slightly above average.


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[Assistant] You know, Travis Kelsey and guys like that, they're the anomalies. There are a lot of tight ends who have taken a while to develop. But this is a long time. And this is the last chance. And he's, of all the guys we've mentioned that have something to prove, he's making the most money. So he's got the most to prove to me.


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[Assistant] The thing about Cade York is he made some great kicks. He made one great kick. Well, but he made a couple of long ones, a couple of the long ones, but he was very inconsistent.


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[Assistant] And the bottom line at that position is, you, if he's not good this year, he's gone.


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[Assistant] The Browns drafted Cade York High for a kicker.


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[Assistant] I like that. The interesting thing with JOK, all these other guys we mentioned are NFL players. We're just asking to be better NFL players. Yea, you're right. I don't know if we, I don't know for sure that JOK is an NFL player.


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[Assistant] Well, I, I mean, all of that is true. If, if the Sean Watson is not good.


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[Assistant] Savansky's fired, Berry's fired, uh, maybe D. Podesta too, who knows. Uh, I think-


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[Assistant] through a couple of regimes. Oh really?


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[Assistant] They're not gonna pay him 16. He's gonna, he's capped at 16 million.


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[Assistant] If, if, Sean Watson stinks and they're like, in a way they're starting over, now they can't, because they still locked into him. And I hate to go down this road too much, because I don't think it's going to happen.


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[Assistant] But I think Miles Garrett could certainly be gone. He's going to want out of here. Could be a complete total blow off. So yes, this is the, I think it's the biggest year certainly in at least the 12 years I've been governing.


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[Assistant] That's true. On the other hand, if he is the guy, there's no limit to how good they can be.


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[Assistant] I think so. I agree. Now listen, Kansas City, Buffalo, Cincinnati are up here.


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[Assistant] But I think if Deshaun is Houston-Deshaun again, they could reach that level with those other three teams. That's the goal. Now those teams are safer bets to be there, but.


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[Assistant] The quality of the AFC, it was already high last year, it's even better this year. Because think about all the- And they're young. Right. Think about all the teams that were really good last year. Well, Cincinnati, yeaah, they got worse at safety, but they got better on the offensive line. Overall, they're just as good.


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[Assistant] Not to mention, you think about Burrow. His first year...


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[Assistant] Training camp was COVID. His second year, he was coming off a torn ACL. Last year, I don't know if you guys remember this, he had a burst appendix right in his training camp. This is his first normal training camp. We know what the Chiefs are, how good they are with Mahomes.


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[Assistant] I personally think Miami's gonna go a little backwards, but if two is healthy, he was good, really good when he was healthy. He's great when he's healthy. Right? We know the Ravens don't stink. We know the Steelers will be competitive. We know the Jets are a little like the Browns. It's an older quarterback, but it's like, well, if Aaron Rodgers plays at an MVP level, they're certainly a playoff contender.


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[Assistant] You think about, I mentioned before, Joe Burrow's training camps. The Browns have, you know, Kevin Stefanski was a new coach the COVID year, right? They went to the playoffs, things kind of went south. Last year, it was a weird training camp because


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[Assistant] The Deshaun Watson suspension was hovering over the team the entire time. And so this feels like the first normal training camp for the Browns in a while. And I think Kevin Stavansky said,


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[Assistant] Uh, we have to do something different, right? What we've been doing has not been working.


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[Assistant] We'll find out if this helps, you know. If they do well, we're gonna say, well, I guess this did something. Who knows for sure. But there's something to be said for what you said there. Now, I don't know that the players...


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[Assistant] The NFL players are going to have the restrictions that you guys had. I would hope they do because I would think that if they're spending, how long are they going to be there? 10 days?


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[Assistant] Like if, if, if they basically have to be on campus, if you will, the entire time, like that's good chemistry building. That's good team building there. And that's something this team could use. I mean, and it gives the Sean Watson a chance to maybe cement himself as the leader of the team, which is important.


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[Assistant] At least to start this year. An early camp is a good time to do it anyway. You talk about all these other non-football activities. It's not like the football in the first week.


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[Assistant] Especially the first four or five days of camp is not that intense anyway. Right. So it, you know, like I just think it's a good time to say, yeah, I mean to do all these things to get to know each other. Uh, and, and hopefully it'll work because man, nothing else has.


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[Assistant] Uh, bad job using a dove climbing tweet. That guy's a clown.


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[Assistant] He's an aggregator who steals stuff from people. Does he really? Yeaah, he's a, I don't know, he's got a million, a zillion followers. I like that Falcons. I'm with you. I do too. You like it too?


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[Assistant] I actually like the Seahawks the best, Brown's second, Buccaneers third for me. Oh really?


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[Assistant] What do you have, a whole mask? Yes, I wanted a mask. See, I use just what they call nose pillows.


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[Assistant] So it's just on my nose, it's not on my mouth.


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[Assistant] There's a hose, and it goes to like, you know, these two little things go into my mouth.


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[Assistant] But mine's set up where it's at a low level when I'm awake and then when I fall asleep, it kicks in. It kicks in higher.


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[Assistant] Everybody's got different guys. You might be alright.


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[Assistant] On the day- They're still married. Oh, are they? They are. On the day Dennis Eckersley found out he got traded to Boston- He did.


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[Assistant] I don't know if this was true or not. I, I, I'm not sure this has ever been confirmed, but there was always rumors in Chicago that the same thing happened with Ryan Sandberg and Rafael Palmeiro.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, because they traded Palmero, and, you know.


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[Assistant] Like the wind. To me, nothing lower than sleeping with your best friend.


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[Assistant] Save that one for the fourth round. I gotta go Johnny Manziel.


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[Assistant] I mean, the man didn't give a rat's ass about a single teammate. We don't have one specific incident where like he slept with a wife. He probably did all this stuff. He was a horrible, he's a horrible person. He was a horrible teammate. He, he destruct, like that Brown's team.


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[Assistant] That year with Brian Hoyer, now Brian Hoyer is not any good, but for a moment in time, we were having a lot of fun watching that team and they were playing well. And then Johnny Mansell, Mansell just destroyed that team.


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[Assistant] By the way, when I was calling games for the, in Utica College in the early 2000s, we had a kid on our hockey team whose real name was Ron Mexico.


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[Assistant] By the way, yesterday the assistant strength and conditioning coach of the Jaguars came out. He's the first male coach to come out. So good for him.


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[Assistant] I mean, he was in trouble his whole career. He was always getting in trouble.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. And, and, uh, I don't know, the guy killed people, that's nothing much else. I mean, nothing tops that.


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[Assistant] Well, because, uh, it's not, my guy's not a basketball player, I'll tell you that. Neither's ours.


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[Assistant] I'm debating between two baseball players and a football player here.


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[Assistant] Trevor Bauer was widely disliked by most of his teammates.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's true. Uh, he was a shitty teammate in Japan that they sent him down to the Japan minor leagues there for a little while. Is he done? Is he out of baseball? I thought he was still pitching there, but I actually don't know.


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[Assistant] Ian, you're killing his back. Ian, it was supposed to be buddies here.


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[Assistant] He is 6 and 3. Okay. With a 346 ERA. I would say that's a good year. I mean, it's decent in the Japanese league.


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[Assistant] But think about that, he's such a bad teammate that even an American team wanted nothing to do with him.


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[Assistant] I love whistleblowers. You wanna have the freshman carry pads. Yeah, that's one thing. You know, buy the coffees. That's one thing.


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[Assistant] Now, again, let me make this clear before we do this.


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[Assistant] The Guardians are not trading for Shohei Otani. No. It doesn't matter if the Guardians would necessarily make this trade. Like, the G said Jose Ramirez. Yea, I would, I want to know if our fans are going to be fair to give the Angels a good return, a reasonable return in a trade. That's what I'm looking for. See how unbiased our fans are.


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[Assistant] Yes. Way too much. Way too much. Well no, but my question was really will you make an offer, the guardians wouldn't make that trade.


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[Assistant] But, they, Guardians wouldn't make any of these trades, so it doesn't matter. They are giving, uh, I don't know that they're giving up too much for Otani, in theory, because the guy's the best player in baseball. The Angels would certainly make that trade, yes.


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[Assistant] I think the Guardians are very wise. He got a blip last year, but he pitched hurt. But he's been up and down his whole career. He doesn't have great stuff. His whole career has been three years. Look at his rookie season. He was great. Would they do it?


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[Assistant] At those two positions. I don't, I'm not 100% sure. Allen and Savalli are not high-end players. I'm not sure the Angels would do that.


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[Assistant] Aron Savalli in his career to this point.


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[Assistant] He's record? Yeaah. To me that's meaningless.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying he's not a dominant starter. I didn't say he was dominant. I just said I think he's a very good pitcher. I think they should trade him. I think he's a middle of the rotation guy.


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[Assistant] Maybe they would do it. The only reason I brought this up is I wanted to see if our fans would make these trades that are just absurdly in favor of the Guardians. And they're not. Our fans are being, uh, if anything, going too far the other way.


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[Assistant] Oh, they don't trade them. I don't think so, because they're, they're not that far out of the wild card.


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[Assistant] That'd be amazing. I mean, that's what, you're getting a top 10 hitter at a top 10 pitcher. You've got to give up a pun even for. You would, you'd have to, you'd have to.


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[Assistant] They would have one of the most. I mean, I actually think this is one of the worst Dodger teams of the last decade.


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[Assistant] But they've had a lot of injuries, that's been part of it. But yea, if he goes to the Dodgers, it's just crazy.


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[Assistant] By the way, I'm bummed that we had to blow off that goat conversation, Mike. Sorry.


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[Assistant] Irrelevant to me. I don't think it's irrelevant. I shouldn't say irrelevant, because it's on my list, but it's way down my list. Well, and it's based on the sport factors in whether it's relevant. In baseball, to me, it is irrelevant. Oh, it's 100% irrelevant in baseball. But I don't think...


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[Assistant] Right, and I, I, I think it is relevant in football for quarterbacks only. Yes. And in basketball it's definitely relevant. But it shouldn't be the end all be all.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you win. You win. By the way, uh, a note from football from one of the Browns rivals, the Ravens just signed Melvin Gordon.


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[Assistant] Now to cut you off, the chat said everything scares McNuggets. Barbecue sauce scares McNuggets.


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[Assistant] I've been looking for a chance to unwind.


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[Assistant] Right, right. Yeah, it's, it's, uh, you know, my birth mother, who, who, uh, you know, had a favor for the darker sides, white woman that...


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[Assistant] My first experience was meeting The Chosen Few, which is the oldest interracial, just celebrated 60 years. And, uh, I put, I put that documentary out, Life of a One Percenter.


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[Assistant] I'm glad that you just said that because I don't really get, I get like, 2% hatred.


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[Assistant] And nothing in any mannerisms is just my verbiage. I have nothing against homosexuality. But I think you have to be almost partially gay to troll another man.


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[Assistant] Like, how can you go from being, uh, uh, a crip to a motorcycle dude? Where do you think most of us came from?


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[Assistant] Your girlfriend ain't gonna like you no more. You can't put me on your taxes cause you done took time on the internet. But yea, a lot of street cats, and then it's just everyday.


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[Assistant] You know, 24-7 working class. Me, I'm an outlaw. I don't, I don't abide. I'm not religious. I don't abide by anybody's rules. I wake up. Who am I here with? By myself.


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[Assistant] But let somebody tell it. Oh, and I didn't find, I just found out the other day, I didn't know that I wasn't allowed to say nigger. My real name is Guillermo Elan.


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[Assistant] When I got the force of penitentiary, I'm from rolling 60s, so we know what color I went with.


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[Assistant] So, you know, I don't live by anybody's rules of how they feel they should dictate me.


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[Assistant] If I sat and thought at 12 years old when Petey Whack came down 3rd Avenue on a beach cruiser,


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[Assistant] Said we putting homies on the hood, on the turf. And I got thundered right in my front yard.


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[Assistant] They with the bullshit, I'm with the bullshit. But now, the Kardashians are famous.


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[Assistant] Everybody knows about my run-in, but it's like, I'm watching, I'm watching people, I, I, I, there's a new song that I have called, uhm, Kick Up the Dust.


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[Assistant] Attorney, I'm the one that know who my checks were cut by.


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[Assistant] The day you go to the swap meeting, Mrs. Kim sells you black hair care products, you kinda lost. So the fact that Proc was from Buffalo, New York, and was here throwing up the dub, I was just that kid that went, nah.


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[Assistant] That got me not backlash to the way, but I wasn't allowed to have an opinion.


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[Assistant] I don't have a relationship with Snoop. We know of each other, but we never, we actually did one song together. But, I'm proud of what Snoop has done. But when I sat there, I was like, yo, keep Pock out your mouth. Or else what?


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[Assistant] And I'm, again, if you were a fan, then keep his history alive, but keep him out your name or what.


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[Assistant] So then it was like, why bring his name up? Because Nipsey actually, he didn't complain.


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[Assistant] I was there when he was on Crenshaw and Slauson selling socks. I was there when he was selling the white tees. I was there after I put Nipsey on his first record. It was a Dr. Dre tribute album. And I put him on his first big record.


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[Assistant] Nipsey followed me to every California record store. No one eat from the turf. Still super happy.


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[Assistant] But now we're not allowed. And I, my life is a paradox because I live in the suburbs of Arizona. Beach home. I've owned the same sports bar for seven years. I don't, only active thing that I do is I get on my motorcycle.


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[Assistant] And if you have a misunderstanding, I want to make sure you overstand what you're going to do is wrong. But, and I'll say this to interlude to you, cats will say this little punk shit, but I literally have followed you. I just thought, yo, who's this fucking white boy? This dude is with the shit. I like you.


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[Assistant] And it's correct, was it from your apartment? And I was like, I remember showing it to a partner of mine, I said, yo, this dude's gonna blow.


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[Assistant] Well, because my daddy, you know, raised me.


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[Assistant] People that hate on you, that don't stop you from eating, breathing, or sleeping, do not waste your time. Now, if you want to say something to go,


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[Assistant] Yeah, but real quick, let me just, you know, I had a cat, I've never in my life responded to a troll on YouTube. This one,


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[Assistant] At 21, you could say that and somebody that want to get some stripes may follow up on that. At 31,


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[Assistant] My administration number, my processing number, and I said the only reason why I'm doing this is because what you're saying creates a troll list.


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[Assistant] You got that tag on you. First of all, you ain't nowhere. And if you are, you're somewhere that's safe for you. So the trolling thing, like I said, I don't get a lot of it.


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[Assistant] But it's like I need to do his show at my age to get validation. Like you, Kev is where I've watched you and I've watched him take it to levels that most folks can't. Like I watched you when you were up at Kanye's listening party.


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[Assistant] I just, Bizzy took a liking to me. Everybody, not Bizzy, fuck Bizzy. Lazy took a liking to me. Everybody knows a story between me and Bizzy and something that happened and a chain went missing and that story's gotten old of beating that elephant to death. But Lazy showed up on 10th Ave on Dime Block to come get Bizzy's chain back. And when I got out of prison, uh, this is who picked me up from prison.


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[Assistant] But, but through and through, I uh, those years I was with them, you know,


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[Assistant] Steve founded me. There's three people I got to thank in this music. And that was Steve Lobel, who was like, yo, you know, I heard about this Crip dude, blah, blah, blah. We had a run in, um, Lazy Bone and Ice T. But Steve was in the studio with Kanye. Kanye heard me on, uh, Demisah Joint.


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[Assistant] I have always been an introvert.


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[Assistant] You know, if you go by the actions of what somebody's doing right at this moment, you would think, oh, that's what he does. But what does he do the other 23 hours of the day? It's cool being by myself. Ice T lives in Arizona when he's not filming.


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[Assistant] And I bullshit you not, this is really my story.


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[Assistant] We got snowed out in Flagstaff and he said, look, instead of going back to the next town, which is Tucson, just come by the house. Well, I toured Arizona for 10 years.


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[Assistant] For sure. To me when I walked in and it was like, yo, white people work here. I was walking up to white people like, yo, you work here? Like you pay your mortgage with this?


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[Assistant] And I just, I fell in love with Arizona, man, and, and uhm.


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[Assistant] So I kept the house on the beach and people were like, how did you move from this beautiful beach house to Arizona? Well I have a pool. I never got in the dirty ass beach water anyway, I just wanted to live on the beach.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, Arizona's home, man. You know, I, I, I had most moments, I think when I was supposed to be with you the last time I was at my beach house.


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[Assistant] I realized, not to get too personal, but I realized I'm content where I'm at and I can see in her eyes she's content where she's at.


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[Assistant] And as much as a mushy moment, it was like, yo, if I can get my old lady back and we could do it by plane, I would never leave Arizona.


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[Assistant] And through and through, you know, when she sees this, I'm a piece, I'm an ex piece. Hi, my name is Gael Moilano. I'm an ex piece of shit. Like I was the dude that put some of the biggest porn stars in the porn business.


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[Assistant] Well, I was a facili- and I was a drug dealer. You know, it's been no mystery. I was a facilitator of...


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[Assistant] Here's the difference. If I was an agent, then that young lady after she got 12 gangbangs, she went home with some money. Oh, the money went to me. Oh.


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[Assistant] So I hate the word pimp. My birth mother was a prostitute. Uhm.


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[Assistant] So to have someone and she, polar opposite, for her to accept my lifestyle, music, ex street dude, biker, literally 1% away from giving zero fucks, seeing her today, we just kind of did an interlude, didn't we? Uh, seeing her today, it's like, yeah, I would, I would walk away from everything, still stay where I'm at. Never going to leave Arizona, you know, the freedom, but that man, you know, I see the love you've got for your girl.


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[Assistant] You know, we were supposed to do an album and never did. Well, you got a hoodie and a sweatshirt, my brother.


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[Assistant] And uh, the site where actually, I took it down, you know, I go through my, not bipolar, but tripolar moments.


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[Assistant] But the site is headknockersclothing.com, which, you know, when you put this, I'll see you in the link, it'll be back up next week, because I announced it the other day that I was putting it back up and I think there's 2,000 pre-orders already.


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[Assistant] I've always been behind. Please, at least try to fight.


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[Assistant] Just please try. Take an ass whippin'. You know what I mean? Before you grab that gun.


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[Assistant] Now, can I whoop everybody? No, that's impossible. Everybody gets an ass whooping.


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[Assistant] You know, if, if you ever notice as you talk to me I do this, I was shot in the head at Parkinson's. So my right leg is fake. Really? Knee all the way up. And then I was shot in the head. And, you know, these young men had to do what they wanted to do.


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[Assistant] Thing of dysfunction where you could turn on a street that you normally used to turn down and you got 20 cats run into one car.


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[Assistant] Now I'm from the 60s, and that's the Black Pea Stone neighborhood, but I knew a very, very, and it was kind of an untouched market.


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[Assistant] There was, I won't say his name again, but there was no mystery that this person was what he was. It was very publicized. But what I've come to realize, you gotta be a little more sensitive.


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[Assistant] But in those days, to general, to go back to your question, we didn't care. Me, I've always been the opposite. I hate guns.


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[Assistant] I would, I would have more of a thrill of knocking you the fuck out.


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[Assistant] We standing out front, big beautiful park. If you ever go up into the jungles, you know, that used to be Baldwin Park for Baldwin Hills.


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[Assistant] Well, you've seen the palm trees over there.


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[Assistant] So I'm leaning on the palm tree and two cats pull up. I was like, hey, y'all got work. And I hesitated to say something, but my partner was like, yeah. And they opened up on us.


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[Assistant] To show you how ignorant and defiant I was, I got hit all in the chest, these little marks here on my head. I was selling dope the next night. My only mission was to find out who those twos were.


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[Assistant] No, you could show love when you wanna show love. Where was everybody when Dre's son died? My daughter went to school with Dre's son. They were best friends. Dre produced a song on the same album that Kanye produced on. That doesn't mean me and Dre are cool.


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[Assistant] But where was everybody at when Dre lost his son? He dealt with it his own way. So I don't follow much, I literally just joined Instagram when...


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[Assistant] But, I don't follow it. Uhm, I can only speak of the way you're stating it right now. Whether or not if you ever gave Nipsey a song,


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[Assistant] Here's what I said when Nipsey passed, and thousands upon thousands, who am I to say how people should mourn? But, how many of you guys went and spent $130 on one of his hoodies?


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[Assistant] And I asked him, why did he push the prices up so much? And he answered perfectly. He said, because none of these people in my hood


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[Assistant] Deserve the right to be paying $130, but because I have a form now, people overseas will.


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[Assistant] But when, the beauty was when you started seeing people of other color at his store. But why, why talk shit about Dre? Like what, what are you gonna do?


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[Assistant] I think I took it the same way Biggie took it when they said Poggot shot and he was like, oh again?


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[Assistant] This kid's swagger and intelligence. But I looked at the phone and I paused. Well, I've got 18 guys that's gotta follow me. So I needed to keep a straight mind. And I turn to my sergeant at arms, wherever I go, he goes.


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[Assistant] I'll find out. Any of my daughters bury me, I'm coming back and haunting they ass, getting cremated. But I didn't want to go because I was just with him a week or so before he died.


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[Assistant] But I don't tell those stories to get glamorization.


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[Assistant] You know, we got two songs together. We didn't need to do five songs or whatever, but I still don't think I've mourned yet.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the guy who fell, you know, right in front of him, uhm, they got shot in the back. We grew up, like, since we were kids, and you look at the backlash, here's the ignorance that I've heard.


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[Assistant] Cowboy leaning over him, taking his chain and going through his pockets, because law enforcement would take it, that's why. That's why.


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[Assistant] And it will be held for evidence or it will be lost. It'll never get it back.


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[Assistant] I don't understand the world anymore because I don't read, I'm making a point now why I don't read any more comments.


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[Assistant] But to sit here and say, cowboy coulda did something. Well, Carey took a bullet in his back and fell face forward.


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[Assistant] The other homie that was with a bullet hit his belt buckle and bounced off of him. What are you going to blame him that he had a good belt buckle or stupid cuz had a bad aim? You know what I mean? But, we live in this world where it's the, if it was me, if it was you, what? Fag, you would have ran.


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[Assistant] I think I'm the toughest motherfucker I know, but you pull a jammy out on me.


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[Assistant] Got it, my man. You know what I mean? I'm gonna remember you, but I'm not, you know what I mean? But I haven't mourned, I'll tell you a story. When Nipsey had his deal with Sylvia Rome, he was in New York and he was walking through the streets and


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[Assistant] I used to work in the laundry so I know.


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[Assistant] I got about a thousand nips, he saying he had about a thousand pair of socks. And I was like, what you doing cuz? He's like, man, I'm looking for one of them bootleg watches, a Breitling. I remember him verbatim. Remember when Breitling was hot for a second? He was like, I'm looking for one of them Breitlings.


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[Assistant] We were on the phone for about two hours, two hours after he met with them. And it's a story that I'll end like this. I knew at that point his whole life was about to change.


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[Assistant] Cause I've never had a record deal. I've always had distribution. I put up my own money. When I, when I was with Bone, I never rode on the tour bus. I don't smoke weed and I was really the only thug in the group. I was always on parole, but I've never had a record deal. After that, Nipsey never had another record deal. He learned, flood the market, flood the market catalog. But I will tell you when he was in the Hamptons, I heard a grown man at that point, you know?


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[Assistant] If you sit angry, then you'll never understand what was his worth. So I'm not actually even angry, it's just, I'll mourn the way I need to mourn.


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[Assistant] I always tell the story, and I know I'm wrong, I always say he was like 12, but he was actually like 14. And he, I met him on Dime Block, cause my homie, uh, well I won't say his name, but my homie, you know, lived over there, we'll put it like that. And I remember seeing this dude, and me being a mixed person, I always trip on people's hair.


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[Assistant] Sounds kind of weird, but always like, damn, what is he? Cause, look at his hair.


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[Assistant] You know, the European little shape, I forget what it's called, Caesar.


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[Assistant] It was even 92. He was 33, so just count back. This might have been 98. So if he was 33, what would he been in 98? I dropped out on the ninth grade.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, so it was, we had 98, I always say 90, I went to prison in 92, so it was around 98 when I got home. And he was young. And...


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[Assistant] Which I'm sure the trolls will be saying, you know. But uhm, he, when he introduced himself to me, he was so intelligent.


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[Assistant] He wasn't out there like yeaah yeaah with the super super extras.


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[Assistant] And it was one of those situations where I was already in the music business. Uhm, it was just starting to happen for me. And I was managed at that time by, uh, Henry Black Butler. I don't know if you remember the old Jimmy Hinchman.


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[Assistant] Well, his partner was black. He was from my hood. And black managed me, you know, and...


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[Assistant] I remember Black pulling up in the new 300 bands in 98 at Catsroom.


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[Assistant] Damn, cuz how could I be down and blah blah blah. And I remember someone saying like, come on, Black, put me on. How could I be down? How could I get a card like this? And Black turned. And when I turned, I looked at Nipsey and he, you could tell he was studying.


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[Assistant] Make the car payment. That's how you can be done. You know, figure it out and go make a car payment. But Nipsey was studying. So over the years, I would say around 18, 19.


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[Assistant] That's when he, he learned, he was asking me how, cause I used to always have CDs. And he asked me, how did I do? I said, I bought this duplicator.


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[Assistant] And I learned that from Cats in New York, from Hinchman. Tom Boots, Mario Hinchman, my second album was executive produced by Mario Hinchman.


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[Assistant] But I said, go buy one of those big, it was 500 bucks then. You know, the duplicators where you do CDs or DVDs.


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[Assistant] It literally was, I was somewhere and they were like, oh he's over here. I said, well call him. And they called him, we saw each other for about 20 minutes. I actually owed him money for the Dr. Dre song. And he wasn't trippin', but I knew that I owed him.


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[Assistant] And I got his information and, you know, the money's going to whoever now, but he was a special dude.