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[Assistant] The Cavs and the Bucks will play their starters, uhm, cause it's not a back-to-back, right? No, it's full of goals. There's no reason. So, yeah, I think they'll have the guys here, right? I don't think.


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[Assistant] You know, my father used to always tell me, man, uh, taking a pitcher with two strikes has consequences.


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[Assistant] You better go up there swinging that bat. Cause you, you can't get called out of watching the third strike. The Browns had an opportunity, uh, to, to replace and find Lamar Cooper, but you swung and miss. You swung and miss on Schwartz. You swung and miss on Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] You swung and missed on Bell. Actually, you got Cedric Tillman and I don't even know he ain't look too good. So if you keep swinging and missing on all these receivers, you could have had the luxury of letting Amari Cooper go because you did a good job in scouting and bringing guys in. Guess what you didn't.


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[Assistant] You didn't do a good job at it. So now you gotta bite the bullet. Now you have to extend him even though he may be on the back end. That's just the consequences when you don't hit what you're supposed to hit. It's the same with quarterback.


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[Assistant] Not only do they need to extend Mario Cooper, they gotta go out and find another dude to punt with a Mario Cooper. Not, that, this ain't even a question. Like, this not even a, like, he has to be back. Now, you can say, okay, he's a little bit of a back end. I didn't see anything about any of his explosives that's gone. I thought he did a great job with five or six different quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] That doesn't mean that he's not on the back part of his career, but it shows he's still productive. Now my thing is, people will point to the injuries.


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[Assistant] Taking from a guy that's been injured 17 times. I got my first surgery when I was 18. I was still young. If you played a game of football, you are going to get injured. It doesn't matter if you're 30, 22, 21, 25. You're gonna get injured and you're gonna get hurt.


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, the Browns are the weakest at wide receiver and they could not afford to weaken that position by not going into the season and saying, let's add something to it and sign him to at least a two year deal. Gee Bush stole my notes.


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[Assistant] Listen, I feel you can't, this is unique. I do understand when you say you got a franchise quarterback in that you, uh, the window is always open. Not in this AFC. No.


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[Assistant] Browns don't jump into that. They don't, like, they gotta, they, those other teams are positioned at a, at a uniquely strong point because of the fact


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[Assistant] That they already have those pieces. We trying to get the pieces, right? We still, their quarterback has already been up and running. We just trying to get our quarterback started. And so when you look at the Browns, I look at it like, hey, you got next year and you might, might have the year after that because this year was supposed to be it. If you look at what I had.


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[Assistant] You can't underestimate not playing for years. Like, that's like somebody being a pitcher, not pitching for two years.


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[Assistant] Well, look, you gotta think about it like this, though, as well. There's a unique set of circumstances with Joe Flacco, and even with Joe Flacco, we found out that Joe Flacco has some limitations to what he could do. And they were the same ones he had before. So yeaah. But our expectations with Joe Flacco


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[Assistant] Uh, give me Deshaun. I don't like, I ain't no fan of Tua. Give me Watson, bro. Taking Tua.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I got to at this point. Trevor Lawrence. After that smoke show. Give me Deshaun. Give me Deshaun.


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[Assistant] Hence, you better get me three receivers. I need all of that.


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[Assistant] Cause I never heard any whispers of him being a problem. So I think he's one of those guys that...


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[Assistant] He, he, he reads the room. He reads the room when he gets there and he wants to see, okay, can I get away with this or can I? Oh, interesting. You go to Baltimore, they not let him get away with that.


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[Assistant] If Zedaria Smith would have played the way we were, to our excitement level, the Cleveland Browns would possibly be still playing right now.


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[Assistant] I just didn't, I, I, I didn't, I'm like, where's your pass rest moves, dawg? Like, he just was like, over there. Like, and the Browns still need to get another defensive end. They just. So we all agree that Zanieri is gone. He's gone.


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[Assistant] This is your new starting mic. New starting mic backer. That was the logic that I used too. And he was better inside than he was outside. What do we think they're going to have to pay him? 8 million year? 10 million year? I don't think that much.


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[Assistant] I don't think Barry's gonna do it and I'm gonna go on the opposite side of the spectrum. Andrew Barry has foresight.


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[Assistant] Y'all, the fans is a bunch of liars. Y'all be lying.


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[Assistant] I be seeing y'all, y'all be lying. Everybody be like, no, no! If Deshawn's playing poorly!


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[Assistant] Not with this one, Jay, you can get that off. If you drafted him, he is seen as an outsider. He's still a member of


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[Assistant] Because there was no viable option


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[Assistant] Ask Cardell Jones, I told Cardell, you should have went to the league. When you got JT Barrett, when you got Braxton Miller, you got Cardell Jones, you had a team that was ready to go two, three championships in a row. But what happens, Jay, is when they, when I noticed something, them fans,


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[Assistant] I've never seen the Cleveland Browns fans embrace a person other than Baker Mayfield like they embrace Flacco.


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[Assistant] This is what Andrew Berry would do. And for me, Andrew Berry has already got the marching orders. To me, Haslem's like, listen. Well, we all agree he's not coming back. Haslem's like, hey, we got Deshaun Washington.


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[Assistant] I know they love Joe Flacco, but I'm gonna stop this before it even starts. I think it'll be interesting to see what happens with Flacco where he ends up. But I would bring him back personally.


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[Assistant] Mike, can you ask, there's fans out there, ask the fans, do you feel like Deshaun Watson and Flacco could coexist?


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[Assistant] Yeah man, we, he played, you know. Big leg and got better at direct.


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[Assistant] Yes, he does. But, but, but these are colored. He also has the brown socks on the elbow, right there. Those are socks cut up on the elbow. And he has the dark visor. So he has the, uh, he has the, uh, Madden starter kit. That's what you, when you draft a guy, that's what you draft. You put an automatic shield on him and be ready to go.


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[Assistant] And that, that ship has sailed. Nope. That ship has sailed.


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[Assistant] Listen, between him and Wyand Thornhill, they got veteran speed too. I've seen guys catch rocks and go, that veteran speed ain't getting it done. You run a 74 man. McLeod was here to help teach the system.


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[Assistant] That's not kind of success at wide. Coach prime is looking for a G. A. Go holler at the people of Colorado. Get your G. A. Game on. Start with the gunners and punters.


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[Assistant] Hey, hey, listen, you don't, you don't, I understand that you gotta play well on special teams, but if you play on special teams and you can't play no regular position, no. I see Jordan Canassi getting drop kicked in the game. Adams was getting run around. No, no, you, you're a linebacker. You don't just get to run down on kickoff. No, do something. No. Yep.


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb in that first game? Hey, Jeff, uh, Southeast Missouri State Financial and Life Insurance has a position for you, bro.


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[Assistant] I appreciate you. He did. He filled the gap. He did his thing.


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[Assistant] New York City, okay, good. So, so, he gets, he gets a position and he says, you know what, I got, who's the biggest track program? Like, Tennessee or something?


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[Assistant] I'll see you on Zoom. I'm already rich. I'll come up, I'll see you on Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Year's, but why would I move? Just, I gotta move.


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[Assistant] People don't even know Jacob Phillips is on disability, and he on Workman's Cup. I ain't seen him play for the Browns yet.


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[Assistant] Nope, cause I'm making Luke Whippler a swing guy. I need you to play guard and center. Alright.


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[Assistant] I'm done with Nick Harris. What do you mean? He's the starting fullback. What are you talking about?


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[Assistant] He's, he has snuck his way, he has ski-masked his way into another


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[Assistant] All of them, like, yeaah. I'm like, he ain't played in the Puerto Rican league, uh, about at 236. Uh, he's a platoon guy, can play short, second, any catches, he throws left-handed, but bats right-handed.


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[Assistant] I actually like, I think that's very fair. It's a game for the fans.


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[Assistant] And plus, people will say like, alright, in most people's minds you say, who's better? Donovan Mitchell or Damien Lillard? People are going to say Damien Lillard is better.


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[Assistant] Uh, even though it may be close. I mean, it's pretty close right there. Or it might be that Donovan Mitchell is better at this point in his career, but when you talk about a guy who is Damien Lillard, like come on, like. It's not like Milwaukee's a sexier market.


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[Assistant] And they're number two, they're number two in the East, they got a better record, they got more name brand record, and he plays with Giannis. Uhm, yeaah, like, I don't think it's a snub.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Now, if you ask me all, do you think, uh, Mitchell has a potential to make all NBA again?


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[Assistant] One of the greatest all-star moments is Magic Johnson.


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[Assistant] We will not be doing that. We will not be drafting tackles.


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[Assistant] At all. No left tackles. We didn't gave Conklin his money. We got Dewan Jones. We didn't gave Jed Wills the fifth year. No. But Jed is...


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[Assistant] I'm starting, I'm, you know what, I never thought I'd say it. I'm starting to go down that path, Jason, cause, uh, as much as Jed left a lot to be desired, he's better than them two dudes they had out there at the end of the year. Well, there's, there are other options between that.


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[Assistant] Now the Ravens look like the best team all year, but I'ma just keep it real, man. This is, this is the Michael Jordan of quarterbacks right now. Like, you just, you know, home road. He's gonna go in there and win. I got the Chiefs winning and he gonna add a lot of, like, pegs to his boat.


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[Assistant] Because I just think he, he, it don't matter. He's just that dude. Uh, and then on the other side, I really want the Lions to win. I, I really do. I'm trying to figure out a way in my head that I'm gonna pick him, but I can't do it. I think Purdy's been playing up and down. I think he actually comes in in this game.


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[Assistant] And he's like the purdy from mid-season. He's been playing really well. Well, I look, when I say up and downs, he played bad against the Ravens. He played two bad games, Browns and Ravens.


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[Assistant] I feel like this game, he goes back to that efficient game. Kittle gets involved. McCaffrey doesn't. I know it was raining last week.


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[Assistant] My man Ant is taking over as the ad-lib king over here. He has surpassed Lil Wayne as the ad-lib king.


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[Assistant] You know, I became a free agent and my age was like, you ever thought about playing for the White Sox? I'm like, no, why? He's like, they want to meet with you. And I'm like, all right, you're, you're pulling my leg. He's like, no, he's like, they're out in Vegas. They want to meet you and they end up, you know, working out a deal. But I really wanted to stay in.


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[Assistant] We're like, okay, there we go. Next day, did the interview and you know, I signed up with the White Sox. And when I got home, I guess John Hart had a press conference and he was like, yeah, you know, we knew all along it was like all about the money and this and that. So that's when I ended up going to Chicago.


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[Assistant] The Black Richard Simmons. See that's funny, I said he looked like he should be wrestling with Hulk Hogan right now.


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[Assistant] I asked him about Deshaun Watson's ability to play in this system. He had an interesting answer. I asked him about would it be weird if he came back and some of the players thought he should play over Deshaun. I asked him about that.


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[Assistant] He was, he was great. In fact, I, when, when we started, when we record these interviews, we use a thing called Restream. Probably Gene knows it. You know Restream, right? Good. Anyway, when, when the interview's over, I was like, Joe, do me a favor, when the interview's over, just stick around a couple of seconds, cause we gotta save it before you hang up.


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[Assistant] I did not offer him a two year deal, but he really, really appreciated how the fans embraced him.


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[Assistant] It meant a lot to him. And you'll hear all this, there's some really good stuff in there.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know. If he is an up and comer, is that true? What have these people said to me? And if so, why do we not blame him for it? Uh, real quick.


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[Assistant] I do think maybe, you know, gee, talk about bringing some things from college.


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[Assistant] The fact that he has been in college football the last few years, unlike most of the coaches in the NFL and certainly most of the coaches on the Browns, that's a perspective of some of the younger players around the league, not just on the Browns, that he may bring to the table that some of the other coaches don't have. How much is Kevin Stefanski paying attention to college football?


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[Assistant] He can't, he shouldn't. And, but Tommy Reese has been locked in on it. One other thing too, I know he received, uh, some criticism for the final play of the national champion, uh, not the national champion. No, it was the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl, right, right. But I remember a couple weeks after the game,


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[Assistant] He didn't see it. He was impatient on that play. Well, it was a bad, it was a bad snap too, so. And it was a bad snap that played a role too. But anyway, you know.


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[Assistant] Obviously this guy's got a good pedigree and he was a play caller at, you know, big time university. But he was still in college. He's not coming in here at whatever age he is thinking, Oh, I should take Kevin Stefanski's play caller. No, I don't think he's got that attitude.


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[Assistant] It is interesting that the Falcons, I don't want to go off track so real quick, it's interesting that the Falcons have interviewed him twice and he's just not gotten the job. Well, who was it that said it?


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[Assistant] Brian Callahan has been the longest tenured offensive coordinator in the league. That's how quickly that position changes.


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[Assistant] God. I think, I gotta double check that, but I'm pretty sure that's the case. That's astounding. Obviously this is a huge deal if the Browns lose Bill Galeon. He's been, you're...


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[Assistant] The most important position coach they've had probably in the 14 years I've been covering this team. I can't think of anybody more important than him as a position coach.


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[Assistant] He has done magnificent work. His reputation is as good as it gets in the league, right? I mean, does anybody have a better reputation? Hell, he's coached in the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I mean, the guy's phenomenal, so. Now, I think, at this point, it's all just assumptions. Nobody has said, there's not like, a report from Schefter, or, it's not like he said, oh, I'm definitely gonna go with my son. No, but, I mean, just connecting.


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[Assistant] Right, sure. It's definitely a possibility, but at this point, it's just assumptions. We don't know for sure that it's gonna happen. Right. But, uh, gee, you look like you're gonna panic.


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[Assistant] Six weeks ago, we were having conversations about could the Browns lose Jim Schwartz? And now the whole offensive staff is in shakeup.


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[Assistant] He may just be like Wade Phillips though. He's one of these guys, like, not a good head coach.


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[Assistant] Well, Antonio Piers did a great job and he is of a similar ilk because he's a young, you know, youngish defensive coach who is an excellent player.


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[Assistant] He could get any job if he did, if he did get fired in Tampa, or uh, Tennessee.


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[Assistant] Who's gonna take Justin Fields? I would still rather have- Who's this guy? Despite Lawrence's bad ending of the season, I'd still take Lawrence over. You know who's gonna be the hot guy? Justin Fields is gonna be- If he goes-


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[Assistant] What's funny is people are now getting hot and bothered over Justin Fields. And, uh, Mitch Trubisky. He had a good year. Mitch Trubisky's best season in Chicago was way better than Justin Fields best season. It's not even close. And there's one big difference. But there's one big difference. Mitch Trubisky had legs. Not like Justin Fields. He had legs!


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[Assistant] Now, if you see my previous tweets during the Buccaneers-Lions game, I was actually complimentary of Baker, believe it or not. I said he played, I said he played his ants off.


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[Assistant] I said I want to see him get a chance on his final drive to see what he can do.


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[Assistant] But I felt on that final drive, even though he had played really well, that he choked. So I said, even with the choke by Baker, which pissed off the Baker bros, even though the rest- That was a fact though! Right, it was!


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[Assistant] He has a lot, uh, do you want to show the rest of that, Mike?


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[Assistant] I never really, I did say Baker sucked. I didn't really think he sucked. I just thought he wasn't good enough to win a Super Bowl win. I'm still not sure, I still don't think he's good enough in the long term to win a Super Bowl win. But I call it like I see it. That guy had a heck of a year this year. He played well. So what part of that did anybody have an issue with? The argument was,


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[Assistant] I thought the Watson trade was the absolute 100% right move.


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[Assistant] I ho- I hope that it still was the right move. I still believe the Browns needed to move away from Baker. But Baker had a fa- had a very good season. Very good.


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[Assistant] That's just not fair, okay? And what people got angry was that they said it was an unfair comparison because Watson didn't play.


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[Assistant] A lot this year. That's part of the equation. Yes, that is, and there is some truth in that. It's not a perfect apples to apples comparison because Baker played 17, 18, 19 games in the playoffs, whatever he did.


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[Assistant] So it's not a completely fair. My point was, it was a more successful season for Baker than it was for Watson. I didn't see how there was any possible debate. Somebody got mad at me and said, I bet you wouldn't say that about Joe Burrow. I said, no. Actually, I didn't respond to the guy, but I'll say it right here.


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[Assistant] The point is, forget the Baker ask. We can't blame Baker because we were 1 in 31. That second half of that tweet had zero to do with Baker. Okay? It had zero to do with Baker. I'm saying it's not a disaster.


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[Assistant] But if you feel like it's not a disaster, my analysis of the two years that Deshaun Watson has been here,


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[Assistant] And the tweet I put out, I thought had no controversy whatsoever. And...


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[Assistant] Wait, now wait. I don't think that disproves the trade being bad. If they hadn't made that trade...


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[Assistant] In spite of that trade, not because of that trade. That's exactly right. And lost to a team. But it's still not a dude. With those draft picks.


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[Assistant] Because I s- all the things you're saying people say, you know that I said none of those things!


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow, when he's played for Cincinnati, has played great, has he not?


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[Assistant] The bottom line is, there's no, Deshaun Watson's been a big disappointment through two years. I don't understand how you can argue that. Doesn't mean he won't turn it around next year. I'm not saying that he won't.


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[Assistant] As there were people like me who are crapping on Baker for a number of things like that too. That's 100% true. And, and the bottom line is... All of that goes away when he wins. All of it. Hold on. I'm mad at you.


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[Assistant] Like, you got two guys out of nowhere that are contributing in a nice way, but I can't help but think, well, it's mostly been against terrible teams.


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[Assistant] He'd better. Yeah, the Die Hard Cavs fans.


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[Assistant] How many minutes was he playing per game and how many minutes was Alan playing per game? You know?


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[Assistant] You know, it's a regular season. Why not try and see how the team would work when Mobley comes back with not playing, maybe not, maybe a couple of minutes here and there, but for the most part playing them separately and seeing


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[Assistant] His three point percentage is barely below his field goal percentage, right?


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[Assistant] By saying that, that means that another quarterback couldn't have won those four games. Now, you could argue that the Ravens game, who knows?


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[Assistant] Almost any quarterback could have beaten the titans or the cardinals in those situations.


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[Assistant] By the way, let me tell you something with 150% certainty, all the people that keep bringing up the Sean Watson's record, if the Sean Watson had played outstanding, but the Browns had a bad record in those games because the defense sucked,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was young back then. We was, I played there at that time. Is that your brother? Yeah, my brother, he played offensive guard. So, uh, his brother's huge. Yeah. So we like, uh, yeah, we was, I was clean back in 02. So that was 2002.


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[Assistant] But Bull is higher than me on this one. I'm only going to give it an 8. Wow. Did not expect that. I'm going to give it an 8. And the reason why I respect any team that's in the playoffs, if you


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[Assistant] Or in the playoffs, that shows me you're a team that can win multiple ways. It shows me a new team that, that is really good coach. And it shows me that you have some playmakers there. But for me, I look at it from a standpoint of saying, okay, look.


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[Assistant] If I go position by position, the only position I can even think about giving to Texans is probably quarterback.


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[Assistant] Or probably receiver, like, but I still add Jamari Cooper over Nico Collins.


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[Assistant] I still edge slightly Joe, uh, Joe Flacco over, uh, you know, CJ Stroud. So for me,


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[Assistant] I think they win in all those other positions, but since it is a playoff game, they are at home. C.J. Stroud does provide a punch and a shot in the arm for their offense compared to what Kase Keenan was doing. I just go ahead and say that I'm going to give them


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[Assistant] Uh, at eight confidence that they can take care of this game. However, that two points, I don't think in at all in during any playoff series, I would go above an eight. That's the highest I would go because I give everybody a puncher's chance.


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[Assistant] What you want to do for this game plan, first and foremost, I'm kicking off. I want the ball in the second half.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then what we're gonna do is we're gonna get right to it. We're gonna go out there. We'll kick the ball to them. Hopefully we can get them out to a three and out.


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[Assistant] Get the ball back, go down the field and score in a long, lengthy drive. Mix it up between run and pass so they don't know what's coming. You up 7-0. Go get back and kick it to them. Now, you know, we'll see if they're going to be patient. We want to, we don't necessarily have to go through and out, but we looking to either get a turnover or another punt and we want to come down and get points.


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[Assistant] Preferably seven. But if we can't get seven, we'll go ahead and kick the field goal. Now, if it's a 40 yard field goal, I'm looking to kick that field goal, because I want to see what the new kicker got.


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[Assistant] I wanna gauge whether or not he's gonna be a factor in the second half and I'll gauge that upon whether he misses this or he doesn't.


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[Assistant] Now I think you put the ball back in their court and now that that clock starts to tick in your head. Is CJ Shroud going to stay patient? Is he still going to take his check downs? Are they going to get away from the running game or Singletary? How patient are they going to be with D'Amico-Ryans and trying to get back into this ball game?


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[Assistant] And if you could get them to be one dimensional there, stop them again.


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[Assistant] Hold these guys to, to no points. Pun it back to you. Now what you can do.


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[Assistant] You can go for the dagger. And a dagger doesn't necessarily mean that you're, uh, 17.


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[Assistant] We'll take another field goal if we can get it. Now what it does is it puts them down 13-0 and now they start to take away that running game. They start to take away some of the methodical stuff. The game plan is to get these guys to get down early in the game.


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[Assistant] Put it on them and make them make plays. I want them to make plays in pressure time.


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[Assistant] behind the stakes, behind the scoreboard. That's the way I think it'll work best for the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] Jason, you brought up a brilliant point. Uh, Jake Burns had an article out, I encourage you to go read it. When I was on the Jibran Report, he talked about, you know, in the 12th, week 12 through 17, when Joe Flacco got it aboard,


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[Assistant] And one of the reasons that the Browns offense has been so good is because they're just running, they're going against tendency. Like, you know, they're running, they can run play action any down. And before it was just, hey, let's just manage it. Just try to run screens. Like you said, now they're mixing it up completely where you got guys where you go.


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[Assistant] Tim, you know, how, you know, when you talk about the offense and you're a quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, how, you know, how does it help you when you are breaking tendencies? A lot of what the Browns have done, uh, with Joe Flacco has been about breaking tendencies on first down, play action and different things like that. And it just seems like when, when you can break tendencies,


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[Assistant] He's still 12 years old. I'm not gonna keep talking about somebody who's 13. He's got a library card, doesn't he? Just got it? This is crazy. I know CJ Straub is good, but good gracious, we gotta go through his scat book? Like, I'm with Boo. Who have you played?


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[Assistant] Like we was going to the turf field and it was like sleet and raining and snowing and it was like maybe 10 degrees. Like quit the team? Just turn they scholarships in.


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[Assistant] Like, here, take this back. I ain't doing it. I'm going to UCF. We try to get them like, yo bro, you gotta talk to your people. They say, nah, I ain't talking to moms. I'm getting, I'm gonna first flight back to Florida.


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[Assistant] Jonathan, you, I'm gonna tell you what. You've been high on CJ Stroud dating back.


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[Assistant] All the way to Ohio State games. I remember the first time, uh, I remember catching alive and they lost to Oregon.


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[Assistant] And I remember you reading these guys a riot act talking about, listen,


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[Assistant] Listen, he a young dude, we gonna ride with him, he gonna get better, and then you see what he put together going through Ohio State and now with Detections. What did you, obviously, you know, you've probably spoken to him, what did you see in him way back then that made you so high on him? Cause a lot of people didn't see this coming in the pros, a lot of people didn't


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[Assistant] Everybody knows what time it is. The Browns gonna win this thing. And you know what? I was, my whole, you know, football knowledge set.


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[Assistant] The Browns are the best team in the universe. You got Flacco, I think he's about to get hot, and his defense is really going to turn into, like, really like the old 2,000 Ravens. I see 2,000 Ravens. You thought Ray Lewis was special? Miles Garrett, he might get 10 sacks in the playoffs alone.


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[Assistant] When they say Wyatt Teller was messing around off, you know, outside of the huddle, and Joe Flacco tells him, hey, you're gonna get your ass in the huddle. And Wyatt's like, okay, let me go over here. It shows me this dude is the leader. He's not just an outsider now. They believe in this dude.


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[Assistant] Bull. I'm Adam the Bull and I've got a running back that I think is going to have a huge game this week and I've been talking about them all year. I'll tell you why coming up in just a little bit.


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[Assistant] I think in terms of it being a record, I don't really care. I mean, it's not, it's not a record that anybody's trying to get. It's an odd set of circumstances.


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[Assistant] And the fifth one in particular doesn't matter because he's not playing due to injury. He's playing due to the game being meaningless. That being said, I care because what he's done to this point, Kevin Stefanski, it shows you how good a coach he is, that he was able to win games. I mean, he beat


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[Assistant] Two good teams. Well, one excellent team in San Francisco and one pretty good team in Indianapolis.


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[Assistant] And, and that is remarkable. The fifth one to me is who cares.


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[Assistant] But what he's done with four different guys, including, I know G said he wasn't surprised to me, I'm beyond surprised how well Joe Flacco's played.


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[Assistant] A lot of that credit goes to Flacco, but a lot of it also goes to Stefanski, and, and, this record is really not about the record, it's about what it says about the job that Kevin Stefanski has done this year.


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[Assistant] I don't think this game should factor into it. I think he's already a slam dunk winner in my mind.


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[Assistant] What do we expect from him? I'm not expecting much because I think the Browns, I know recently the Browns have been throwing the ball a ton. And I love it.


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[Assistant] I think this game is going to be completely opposite. I think Kevin Stefanski wants this. First of all, like an average football game is what? 3 hours, 3 hours and 10 minutes. The Browns games are 3 hours and 30 minutes. Every game they play is long. This will end that streak. He wants to get through this game as fast as possible. He doesn't want anybody to get hurt. And how do you do that? You run the ball.


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[Assistant] The Bengals, who had a sub par run defense before they lost their best run stopper, DJ Reader, now have maybe the worst run defense in the league. So I'm expecting the Browns to run the ball a ton in this game, which means the game moves fast. I don't think they're going to throw it that much. I mean,


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[Assistant] I expect, I think Jeff Driscoll will probably not throw a touchdown pass. Maybe he throws one pick, but I'm not expecting that much because I'm not expecting him to throw that much.


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[Assistant] Pierre Strong's gonna get, I mean, who else? I, I don't, I assume Ford and Kareem Hunt will not play. I guess I don't know that. But I'm assuming they both won't play this week.


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[Assistant] If that's the case, Pierre Strong, I would expect, and I've already said I think they're gonna run the ball a lot, I'm expecting him to get at least 15 carries and at least 20 touches total. I think he can run for 100 yards this week. The Bengals run defense stinks.


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[Assistant] I expect him to have a huge game and at least one big time play where he gets, you know, 30 plus yards. So I'm expecting well over 65 for Pierre Strong.


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[Assistant] And it's, I don't know, I just, it's one of those games that I expect to be low scoring and both teams want to get the hell out of there.


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[Assistant] I know he obviously would want to be. Yeaah, doesn't mean he's not content. He might be content. And still, hey, if an opportunity came up, I would take it.


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[Assistant] That's exactly what he was doing. The only distraction I think could be, certainly any coach, any coordinator interviewing for a job during the playoffs could potentially be a distraction for that coach. There's no doubt about it. I mean, is that the reason they win or lose? Probably not, but it could be a distraction. You're splitting time, you're going


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[Assistant] I think third is easy, we'll end with that, but first and second to me is tough, it's debatable. In the end guys, for me, the team I want the Browns to play the most is Jacksonville. I think close


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[Assistant] But Jacksonville, even though Trevor Lawrence is a lot better.


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[Assistant] Then, uh, what's his name in Indianapolis? Gardner-Minshew. Uh, Gardner-Minshew. But Jacksonville is just a mess right now. They are. Last year, remember, they were playing their best football at the end of the year and it carried into their great comeback win in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Lawrence has been heard. He may come back this week. He may not even play this week. So who knows what he's going to be like next week.


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[Assistant] He hasn't been good for the last six weeks. Their running game is kind of mid. Their defense is not great. Their home crowd is the lamest of the three. I think in the end I would go with Jacksonville 1. Indianapolis 2.


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[Assistant] Uh, and clearly Houston three. Now the Browns did beat all three teams, but the big caveat is they beat Houston with Kate Skeenam. Right. Not C.J. Stroud. That's a huge difference. If you look at it in Vegas,


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[Assistant] The only one of these three, I think the Browns will either be a Pick'em or even a slight favorite against Jacksonville or Indy. If they play Houston, they'll be an underdog. Not big, but I think they'll probably be like a two, three point underdog. I think the Browns have a great chance to win no matter who they play.


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[Assistant] Clearly it's a huge drop for me to three with Houston.


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[Assistant] We're big fans of yours this weekend. If Jacksonville beats Tennessee, they will host the Browns. If Jacksonville loses, then the Houston Indy winner will host the Browns.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, I think that was an anomaly. Okay, I hope so. More than it's gonna happen again. I hope so. That's my feeling on it.


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[Assistant] It's the first time in a while I'm picking the Browns to lose. Fifth time is not the charm. Jeff Driscoll picked off twice as Browns fall in since he's 17-16. I like the Browns with the points. I like the Bengals to win a slight game. I think they might be motivated to try to finish over 500.


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[Assistant] And let's face it, in this game, with as many guys as I think are going to be out for the Browns, the Bengals are better.


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[Assistant] National Championship Trophy. Uh, the one and only Jay Crawford made sure to bring this in. Put it in a very prominent position in the studio as soon as you walk through our entrance doors over there. It's the first thing you see when you walk in. And Tyvis, you and I walked into the studio this morning.


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[Assistant] Immediately you saw it, and you said, J. Crawford at SOB.


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[Assistant] Earl and I were telling you how frustrated we get sometimes that after we do ad reads,


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[Assistant] People on the panel say, oh, one more thing real quick, one more thing, and there's no such thing as one more thing on the show because everyone has to chime in, and when we cut clips, the sponsors pay to be in these clips, but then the clip doesn't start for four minutes because we go on a tangent.


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[Assistant] Who just starts going off on his own right about how Tyvis was about to go on a tangent and how Tyvis can't say one more thing. So it was a really full circle kind of moment here as we were getting ready for the show today. But uh, Tyvis, any final words for director Steve?


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[Assistant] And there we do. There we go. But we haven't done a read yet, so it's still okay. Anything before the read is fine.


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[Assistant] Steve's been doing sit-ups now for about a month, I would say. Steve, about a month, give or take.


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[Assistant] Steve's going on a cruise. Of course he is. We know it. We don't know for sure. Unconfirmed reports.


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[Assistant] I just can't say with 100% certainty that it's not a swinger's cruise. I don't know for sure it's not.


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[Assistant] Wow. Hey, I just said we're not 100% certain. It's not. Tyvis took it to a level that I wasn't ready to go to, but...


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[Assistant] It's gonna be one of those days. It's the truth. It's gonna be one of those days. Earl, when you do the read, there will be no more One More Things After. So you wanna get us our first read of the day?


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[Assistant] If anyone watched the Cleveland Cavaliers Sacramento Kings game last night, it was a cavalanche from the get-go, then they couldn't miss in the second quarter, then they couldn't miss in the third quarter, then the fourth quarter came around and they missed one shot and they made seven more. They shot 58% from the floor.


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[Assistant] 56% from through. They beat the Kings, who are a pretty impressive and talented Western Conference team by 26 points. That's 14 of their last 15. The question today isn't, are they the favorites to win the title?


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[Assistant] We'll talk about that later, come playoff time. Question I want to ask you today, and Jason, we'll start with you time as you follow up. Right now, today, on February 6th, 2024, are the Cavs playing better basketball than any other team in the NBA?


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[Assistant] I would not pick them to win the NBA title right now. No. I don't think they should be considered the favorites to win the title and I think there are other teams that are built


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[Assistant] And proven more in the playoffs than the Cleveland Cavaliers at the moment. However...


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[Assistant] I do think there is a case to be made, and I'm gonna lay it out for you guys, that over the last month and a half, close to two months now,


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[Assistant] The Cavs have been the most consistent and best team in basketball. You go back to December 15th when both Devin, uh, Darius Garland and Evan Mobley got hurt. They were 13 and 12 in 9th place in the Eastern Conference. Since then they're 19 and 4.


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[Assistant] Compare that to Boston who started the season 26 and 6. They're 11 and 6 in their last 17 games. The guys are 19 and 4. They're playing better than any other team in basketball. They've moved up to second place in the Eastern Conference. And the one thing when you look about who's the best team in basketball, you have to have


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[Assistant] That, that killer five-man group that you know, when push comes to shove, these are the five guys I need on the court right now, today, not in three months, not in the playoffs, like today, this is the five-man lineup that can compete with any other lineup in basketball.


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[Assistant] This is not for the playoffs. I'm just saying right now today at the moment, since January 1st, the five man lineup of Mitchell,


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[Assistant] Of any lineup in basketball, since January 1st, that's played at least 10 games together in that span, that is the single best five man lineup in basketball. And not just by a little bit.


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[Assistant] By a ginormous gap. Second place. 26.3 for the Cavs.


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[Assistant] Try 18.7 for the Clippers. Kawhi, Paul George, James Harden, Parents Man, and Mason Plumber.


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[Assistant] It's almost eight and a half points over a two month or a month and a half stretch now that that five man lineup should better. So they can put that five man lineup against anyone and feel damn good about it. And the fact that they're making shots at the rate they are right now, they made 23 threes last night.


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[Assistant] When they're healthy or right now? Right now. I'm not sure exactly if they're 100% healthy. They go Derek White, Drew Holliday, Brown, Tatum, Port Zingas. That's their closing five.


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[Assistant] Could I reel this back though one sec? We'll get to the playoffs when we get there. There's a lot of basketball to be played. There's injuries. I mean, we're talking about Boston in their lineup. Poor Zingus is never healthy. So, like, there's no guarantee he'll be around. Right. So let's bring it back to the regular season though right now, because...


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[Assistant] Everything you say about the playoffs is obviously true and, you know, we can talk to as many coaches from other teams as you want. You're gonna get pretty consistent answers. They have to make shots before we're gonna guard them and that's kinda how you attack it. But right now, at least in the moment, the Cavs don't have a weak link.


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[Assistant] They're going 10, even sometimes if you want to count Craig Porter Jr., 11 deep. And everyone's contributing. You texted me last night asking the Cavs, the deepest team in basketball. And I, I was driving home like a quick search. They're definitely in the conversation. The fact that on any given night, you can go 10, 11 deep. And that's without Tristan Thompson, by the way.


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[Assistant] So really, really 12 deep if you consider all the pieces or the cupboards fully, you know, available. Everybody's contributing.


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[Assistant] And they're still figuring out how to place certain guys together, how to best maximize each person's talent when guys are together just because injuries they haven't had so much time yet.


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[Assistant] I still think there's another level this offense and defense can go before we reach the postseason. Like I still think there's, they've won 14 and 15, they're 19 and 4 since December 15th.


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[Assistant] Right? No, Niang's played a ton of playoff games though. Yeah. Won it!


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[Assistant] Here's, here's the one thing, and I want to go back, don't forget to come back to the point about the five man lineup I mentioned. But I think the one area where they can legitimately get better within the regular season, as Garland and Mobley


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[Assistant] Kind of get their legs back under them, and get more familiar with this, I don't want to call it new style of art, everyone's played this style before, it's not groundbreaking, JB didn't invent a new triangle, but it's just, as they get familiar with these guys, I do think there is a scenario.


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[Assistant] There is a level where Donovan's playmaking ability...


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[Assistant] Unlock so much for Darius and I know opportunities come and go like that made me Donovan's numbers come down slightly because more of it's going to Garland. But there's still an opportunity for those two to find.


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[Assistant] That unique mesh of two guys that want the ball, but also flourish and play off each other's ability to create and create space and opportunities for each other that takes this offense from, we're going to get a lot of open threes and make a lot of open threes to we're getting wide ass open looks anytime we want. That's like the next tiny little crack, I think, or wrinkle that could still be improved upon in the regular season.


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[Assistant] He had some moves yesterday, and I know he didn't shoot, the percentages weren't good, he missed a bunch around the rim, but, some of the moves he made yesterday, I-


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[Assistant] My issue with Evan is the consistency. It's not the ability. The ability is there. But he had a move yesterday in transition, and he's a legit 6'11", 7'4". When you see Evan Mobley walk around like,


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[Assistant] There's no doubt that he is one of the freak alien type NBA specimen athletes. And he came down on the right wing yesterday in transition.


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[Assistant] And then a little step through, rip around and finish with the left hand. And there's like seven guys in the world who can do that.


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[Assistant] But the ceiling for Mowgli is still there. Yes. And if he can make threes that even, Jay asked the question yesterday, asked me, how many threes do you want Mowgli to take? And I was like, however many they leave him wide ass.


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[Assistant] That, that's fine. He asked, he's like, won a game, two a game, and I was like, well, if they leave him open eight times, I want him to shoot eight threes. If he's, they're guarding, I don't want him taking three threes, like if he's contested. But if he's open, shoot it.


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[Assistant] Same thing when he catches it on a little pocket pass in the pick and roll. Jared Allen's got really good at making these split second on the fly decisions to either kick it to the corner, take his own shot or do whatever.


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[Assistant] Mobly has the ability to process, just has to speed up that tiny little bit.


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[Assistant] Uh, C.J. McCollum, uh, Porter Jr., Otto Porter Jr. was the third pick that year. That's a bad draft. I mean, Yana saved it, but that's a bad draft.


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[Assistant] Uh, Earl, last thing, cause we brought it up, then we'll move on to the next topic, but.


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[Assistant] We talked about the 5-man lineup earlier, I talked about the Cass 5-man lineup that's been the best in the NBA in the last month and a half in the regular season. I don't think that's the closing lineup in the playoffs. I do think at the end of the day, Darius Garland has to be in the 5 to close the playoff game. Like, I think that's a non-negotiable. He brings stuff, and to your point with the teams laying off Okoro and Mobley and other guys, the one guy in the playoffs last year who didn't


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[Assistant] In anyone else on the roster. I understand that that five man lineup right now in the regular season works and has been good as any lineup, but come post season time, DG has to be in that five.


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[Assistant] Endiang and Struse will both played a ton of deep playoff minutes early.


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[Assistant] View from the seats. They tell you the final price, so you don't see a ticket price, then they add $30 on for fees. Game time, you're gonna use it, use promo code LOCKDOWN, the best in the business. So the three point contest is coming up. All-star game in Indiana. And Donovan Mitchell.


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[Assistant] I thought, I thought, Fedor had a quote from Sam, saying he wanted to spend time with his family.


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[Assistant] Let's pretend it is the end, that Sam did decline.


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[Assistant] Instead, I want to spend time with my family, whatever, for the sake of this.


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[Assistant] I got to know Mack McClung when he was 14 years old.


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[Assistant] Yeah, me and Mac go way back. No kidding. Uh, he was from Southwest Virginia, which is where I worked.


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[Assistant] He won a state championship, broke AI scoring record, I was there for all. But the way Jason filed LeBron around, I was the Mackle-Kung entourage in southwest Virginia. He was the biggest story in sports.


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[Assistant] When he got the chance to do the slam dunk contest last year, he played a few games in the NBA, but a journeyman career European guy.


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[Assistant] He was in the G League. He had played a few NBA games. He had a 10 day contract once, but he was a G League guy. Got a chance to participate in the Slam Dunk contest. Obviously won, blew up, made a boatload of money off endorsements, off notoriety.


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[Assistant] He got an NBA contract out of it. Now, Sam, you're not in that same position.


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[Assistant] But you had a chance to capitalize on something special here. There's no guarantee.


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[Assistant] You can talk less. Sam, man, I'm disappointed. If you did have the opportunity and didn't, I'm disappointed. If that's not true, I still love you, man. You're my guy. That's funny.


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[Assistant] I found, I found it. Now, you can read it as everyone else, but Meryl did talk.


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[Assistant] When campaigning to try, this is from Chris Fedor today in uh, cleveland.com. Oh, it's by Ethan Sands, excuse me. Ethan Sands, cleveland.com today. That's why I was looking on Fedor's timeline. I couldn't find it. That makes sense.


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[Assistant] Uh, Mitchell had previously been campaigning for teammate Sam Merrill to participate in the three-point shootout as Merrill has risen through the ranks from a sleeper that few teams had on their scouting report to one of the top pure shooters in the league.


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[Assistant] Uh, when the campaign of trying to get Merrill to be a participant started, he was candid about wanting to take time away to spend with his family and rest during the All-Star break. Quote from Sam Merrill.


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[Assistant] In the list of guys they are going with, the league likes the big name guys, so I knew I was never going to get invited and I'm totally cool with that.


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[Assistant] Do they, have they announced that? I heard Jalen Brown actually was considering doing it.


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[Assistant] If Sam Merrow was in the three point shootout though, the list of participants are Beasley, Dame Lillard, Tyrese Halliburton, Jalen Brunson, Mitchell, Laurie Markkinen, Tyrese Maxey, and then the last one is TBD.


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[Assistant] I think Mario could've had a chance to legitimately win. He'd hold his own. He would! His form is consistent, minimal effort, it's not like he jumps, he doesn't have a crazy, consistent form, flick of the wrist, minimal effort, and a guy who's built to shoot. Those are the guys who usually typically win, or have the makeup stereotype to win a three point shootout.


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[Assistant] So here's what they should, here's what they should do. Donovan Mitchell should come out in a Sam Merrill jersey.


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[Assistant] Okay, that makes me feel a lot better about this whole situation because I would have been very disappointed that we're not going to get the chance to see him.


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[Assistant] Is he your favorite to win it? I know it's his first time and that makes a huge difference. No.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I think Donovan though to your point about being a streaky shooter.


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[Assistant] When he gets hot. Yes, he don't miss. He gets supernova, like, in secondary asteroid level hot. And he can make 9, 10 in a row, and if it turned the moneyball situation, he can put up these historic scores. But it's, it's the three rounds now. You know, it's the first round, then it goes 8 to 4, then it goes 4 to 2.


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[Assistant] And it's tough for a streaky shooter to stay hot for three rounds. When you get a minute, then you sit for thirty minutes. Then you get another minute, then you sit.


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[Assistant] We do not know, it's safe to assume that Merrill was not invited. Correct. Merrill did say, I want to spend time with my family, I want to golf.


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[Assistant] He said that on the record at Cleveland.com and Donovan, when asked about it, said, I tried to get him, quote, I tried to get him, but he wanted to chill with his family. So I figure why not go out there and win it for him. So let's just, anything's on the table.


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[Assistant] No, actually we purposely talked about doing nothing we talked about today. We're going to make it totally different. So if you want. Never before.


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[Assistant] Never before seen. It's gonna be live. By the way, the first thing we did was record this. It's gonna be live. And a little tease with the main topic though. Why the hell isn't Donovan Mitchell getting more MVP discussion?


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[Assistant] Alright, well the trade deadline is in two days. Thursday, 4pm is the official NBA trade deadline. The Cavs don't have a ton of money at the moment.


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[Assistant] They don't have a ton of assets, and they may or may not be looking to make any type of deals. So what we figure we do today...


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[Assistant] Is look at some potential targets that the Cavs could look at. I broke these into three tiers.


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[Assistant] I have your dream tears, which are, it'll never happen, the Cavs do not have anywhere near the assets to acquire, but in a dream world where they would take...


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[Assistant] Okay, well let's start, let's start with the dream candidates. And once again, the dream means it's not going to happen. This is if an other team would take a penny in return for a dollar. It's not going to happen, but let's have some fun. The dream candidates would be Cam Johnson, the small forward of the Nets.


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[Assistant] LeBron James of the Lakers. And Jason, you said you wanted a backup point guard potential. That scenario you think they could look to address potentially the deadline if they were to make a move. Alex Caruso is a proven veteran at the position, plays great defense, is a 41% shooter from three this season. He would be a great fit on this Cavaliers team, but once again these are dream scenarios.


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[Assistant] Fair? All three of these? Too high price? Too much of a dream? Okay. We can move on. Let's go to the probably too pricey. This probably won't happen. 98.5% chance these guys cost too much. But 5 guys I thought could be fits if the price was right.


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[Assistant] But I don't think the price is right. I don't think the Cavs have the assets to acquire any of these five guys. You have Deandre Hunter in Atlanta. Dorian Finney-Smith with the Nets.


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[Assistant] Bojan and Bogdanovic, one with the Pistons, one with Atlanta, and then another backup veteran point guard, Jason, uh, uh, kind of fitting into you here, but Malcolm Brogdon, the often injured, but one healthy, talented point guard for the Blazers, another veteran presence ball handler, and sneaky thing with Brogdon, he's like a 94% free throw shooter. So a guy at the end of the game, so if he is healthy, absolute clutch, and he's a three point shooter as well.


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[Assistant] Oh, Bryven, I believe he's on the... I'll look it up. I think he has two years left.


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[Assistant] If they are to make a move, these are guys that I think would fit into the parameters of players the Cavs could acquire. You got Royce O'Neal, the 3 and D wing of the Nets.


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[Assistant] Corey Kispert of Washington, a 6 foot 7 shooter, not a great defender, but if you want to add a little more size in shooting. Santi Aldama, who I'll admit, I did not know existed until last Monday when they played the Grizzlies. And he's a 7 footer who made 3 threes against them. And I was like, ooh, what's his contract? Expire? Oh, might be a nice fit.


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[Assistant] Uh, Simone Fontecchio of the Utah Jazz, a 6'7 Italian first year in the league. He's like 28, 29 years old, had a nice European career before, but another guy who can shoot, and I actually kind of like his potential. He may not be a rotation player this year, but a guy I think who could play later than Sadiq Bey of Atlanta. Atlanta's just kind of blowing stuff up if they want to. They have the ability to.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well that's, that's why a lot of these guys in the nets too had a guy in the realistic, the probably too pricey and the dream scenario. So these are five guys I think, theoretically speaking, if the Cavs were to make a move, they could acquire with the assets they have and they, they fit money wise, but do any of you guys, do any of these guys on this list right here,


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[Assistant] You better off with what you got. I look at the Cavs roster, and they do have some pieces if they want to make moves. Like, you could, theoretically speaking.


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[Assistant] Theoretically speaking package, Laverte and Wade.


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[Assistant] And some second round picks to make a 20-ish million dollar contract work.


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[Assistant] But the too pricey occurs to make a lot of money. It's the issue. So if you're gonna get one of those guys.


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[Assistant] He's going in a package with Levert. So that's what it's, you gotta think money and assets. It has to work both ways in the NBA and the Cavs are close to luxury tax so they're not going to be able to take in money.


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[Assistant] Unless they match it or come close, I forget the exact rules.


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[Assistant] The way I looked at this was, if there was a guy that I thought they could realistically acquire, financially and asset wise, that was a definitive upgrade over their top 8, I'd consider it. I can't find anyone who makes sense in terms of the money, asset, return value for what you're giving up.


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[Assistant] That's an immediate upgrade. I just don't know who that player is that comes in and immediately says, oh yea, we have him now, that changes our ceiling. I'ma tell you right now.


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[Assistant] No, I still think at the end of the day, the Cavs at their peak, especially in the playoffs win.


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[Assistant] The biggest difference in playoffs in regular season is A, pressure and then B, team's scheme game by game for you specifically. When you play in 82 games in the regular season, Jason, you probably actually know this better than I do. You know, you're playing back to backs, you're scouts, you're, you're playing basic defensive principles for the most part.


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[Assistant] And it's not specifically game plan and tailored night in night out to stop a certain team. And...


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[Assistant] That's why I think it is crucial for Darius Garland to get back to the Darius Garland we've grown to love here in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Because when him and Donovan are on the court together, that's two guys who can create out of nothing. And without Darius on the floor,


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[Assistant] It's Donovan create and everyone else space and shoot, which has been utterly and it's been utterly unstoppable since January 1st. But there are ways to stop that when guys aren't shooting 51% like Dean Wade is 47. Like, like these guys can't shoot. They're.


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[Assistant] They can, I don't expect them to shoot that well in the postseason, so I think you need that secondary creator on the court. And that's why I think Darius Garland, when it's all said and done,


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[Assistant] And nobody plays more minutes or plays 82 games harder than the Knicks and Tom Thibodeau. Tom Thibodeau runs dudes into the ground. So that's, it's a bad comparison to look at. And I'm not saying it's your fault, but like...


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[Assistant] The Cavs may have played a ton of defense in a ton of minutes last year. No team played their starters more into the Knicks and they didn't look worn down. So you know, it kind of goes both ways.


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[Assistant] And I would expect Donovan's minutes to come down slightly now that Darius is getting healthy and they could stagger more of the primary ball handler point guard situational roles as they go forward. So they'll put a bow tie on the trade deadline combo.


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[Assistant] I don't want to call them hard minutes versus soft minutes, but when you're the primary playmaker on offense,


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[Assistant] There's not really a time to get off. Right. There are possessions Donovan can take off of him and Darius are on the court. Yes. Where Darius becomes the primary playmate and Donovan kinda stands off in the corner. So it's the...


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[Assistant] A less hard, I don't know the right word, you don't try to say though, like it's a less taxing.


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[Assistant] So put a bow tie on the trade deadline potential.


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[Assistant] Well, I have the numbers actually. So this was shocking. Not shocking, but I was surprised. In five seasons with Ken Dorsey, Cam Newton,


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[Assistant] Over 100 rushes in all four. What do you think the number was? The average. 155. I would say 160.


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[Assistant] 115 per season with Newton, 114.7. Wow, so similar. Now granted that counts scrambles as well, so it's not all design rushes. But in nine seasons...


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[Assistant] Ken Dorsey working with those quarterbacks, and I don't include 2023 because it's only half a season. He was trending for over 100, but I just took it out because it wasn't a full season.


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[Assistant] I feel like Camage and Short Yardage, I feel like every play was Cam Superman package.


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[Assistant] And obviously we're just trying to speculate here because we won't know till they open up training camp. We won't know really till week one. I hope the answer is neither. I hope it's like the Nishan Watson playbook.


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[Assistant] We'll see. On the Ultimate Brown Show yesterday. I hate you.


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[Assistant] And they were talking about Ken Dorsey's presser and designing a playbook and all that and Leroy who.


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[Assistant] No more football than I could ever imagine. He'll forget more football than I could ever, ever possibly learn. Tyler, you're in the same boat. He said the play calls, like, like the actual play call itself is so overrated.


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[Assistant] The actual call itself is not nearly as important as the preparation that goes into the week. And whether it's Stefanski calling plays or Dorsey calling plays or Tommy Reese who it's not going to be, but I'm just saying, whoever it is calling plays, it's the combination of all those offensive minds starting on Monday, all the way leading up to kickoff, putting together that Denny's menu looking thing.


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[Assistant] Uh, I go back and maybe my memory's not great, but I remember that Cam knew in like, MVP playbook.


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[Assistant] If you went to that offense, that 1501 Panthers team, they were shotgun all the time. Newton never went under center, which is fine. But they had...


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[Assistant] No, three backs in the backfield with them, two backs, they ran triple option, like a lot of stuff. And once again, I'm going from my memory. It's not a hundred percent accurate, but it was a lot of like power running from the shotgun.


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[Assistant] And they never had a running back. Josh was their power running option. Right. And it was a lot more downfield action. At least to what I remember. I didn't go back and study it. I'm just going off what I remember. I think downfield action suits...


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson a lot more than some sort of variation of the option of running him wild, like Cam Newton kinda did, but...


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[Assistant] It all comes down to whatever those offensive minds in the room.


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[Assistant] And we talked about the carries a second ago. I mentioned four to five years with Carolina came at a hundred plus carries. All four full seasons with Buffalo, Josh had a hundred plus carries. The Sean's come close, but he's never had a hundred carries in a season. So asking him to do, we average out to a hundred.


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[Assistant] I was looking at both playbooks, and once again, I'm just going off numbers. I don't remember watching every play. It is Four Seasons with Newton.


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[Assistant] He averaged 6.9 Newton in his 5 seasons with Dorsey. Excuse me. Averaged 6.9, uh, air yards per target. Who did this? Cam Newton in his 5 seasons with Ken Dorsey working with him. Okay.


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[Assistant] Four years with Allen, it was 7.4 air yards per target. And his career, Watson's at 8.3.


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[Assistant] And that's because one year was significantly down when he threw for all those yards in 2019.


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[Assistant] It was up to 8.9, almost 9 yards of target. So, if we're picking to answer the question, Newton or Watts, uh, Newton or Allen, which playbook, I would tend to lean towards Josh Allen's playbook.


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[Assistant] These are his receivers the year he won the MVP.


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[Assistant] Funchus, McCaffrey, Kelvin Benjamin, and Russell Sheppard.


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[Assistant] So, uh, who's who, uh, talk to your seating card.


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[Assistant] Definitive feeling, which one fits more, as long as it's maximizing Deshaun's talent. And I go back to what Lee Roy said and what I was trying to say earlier. The play calls matter, but I think we make too big of a deal of what a coach ran or what a team ran on a certain given play, as opposed to the overall philosophy of how to attack the other team.


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[Assistant] That is also a very valid counterpoint. But I do agree.


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[Assistant] Contrary, but. The cause? Yeaah. It's the same way. The overall premise or is the individual cause more important at that point?


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[Assistant] There's certain insight that we'll obviously never get, and how they were communicating and changing, but I do think there are some times.


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[Assistant] Especially in basketball where you can see a team guard a pick and roll or guard a certain set one way, second half, completely change it and like,


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[Assistant] At least to me, like, that's a visible halftime adjustment I can see. I'm not as open-eyed to it in football.


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[Assistant] Is that something a coach needs? I know we gotta move on a sec, but is that something a coach needs?


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[Assistant] And Deshaun throws in a perfect deep ball. Next thing you know, it's a 52 yard completion down to the Cardinals one. Brown's punching.


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[Assistant] So like offensive, last thing I know we got, offensive concepts one week in, stop, don't use them again, or just pull them back out.


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[Assistant] So play call is important, but at the end of the day, it comes down to the guys in the offensive or defensive staff coming together to find out whatever the team's weaknesses are and how to exploit it, right?


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[Assistant] I feel like I learned a lot. Alright, we gotta read, what's up?


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[Assistant] We did, so how are we doing it this week guys? You guys weren't here, but we are putting together a...


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[Assistant] Up to five parts, same game parlay for the Super Bowl. So yesterday we had...


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[Assistant] Over under passing props. Okay. And the entire panel yesterday agreed that we wanted to lock in the first part of our


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[Assistant] Ultimate same-game parley for the Super Bowl as Brock Purdy, under.


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[Assistant] 245 and a half passing yards. That's the first part.


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[Assistant] Of what will end up being our ultimate same game parlay. We did passing crops yesterday. Today we're going to rushing crops.


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[Assistant] We'll lock it in as the second part of our ultimate same game parlay. If we can't come to a consensus, well, we just don't put that leg in. So the rushing process we're looking at today.


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[Assistant] Over under 91 and a half rushing yards for Christian McCaffrey. Over under 67 and a half rushing yards for Isaac Pacheco. Or over under 16 and a half rushing yards for Deebo Samuel. Jason? We have to pick one of those? One of these. Do anyone in particular stand out in your mind as a surefire lock?


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[Assistant] Time to just get your thoughts ready. I got one in particular I think is money. I know Earl's got one in his mind too, so.


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[Assistant] So here's what I was thinking with the Pacheco over and we'll talk it out. We'll come to a consensus or we'll decide this is not what we want to put in, but.


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[Assistant] You watched the Detroit-San Francisco game, NFC Championship a few weeks ago.


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[Assistant] Both Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery had success on the ground. Physical offensive line. I think, and I-


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[Assistant] I voted for under Mahomes passing yards yesterday for the record, so this kind of plays off what I'm thinking. I think the game plan for them is going to be chuck it deep, and then let Pacheco run it up the middle, power run game.


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[Assistant] And utilize this bowling ball. He's a ram. I mean, no one.


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[Assistant] I thought it was a perfect number. I don't feel good either way about McCaffrey in that.


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[Assistant] I like the Pacheco over, but I am 1 of 4 here. We need a 4-4 vote.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I like the under. Same reason, coming off injury, just don't think of the opportunities?


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[Assistant] I don't think we have consensus, so I think we'll pass on this one, make it a four part same game parlay. Is that fair?


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[Assistant] We'll continue to make this same game parlay all the way throughout the week up until Friday when we officially lock it in. We don't know the odds yet because they kind of change every day and until you lock all five in, you can't get a good read on that, but I'm sure it'll be.


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[Assistant] Close to a 10 to 1 payout, if not more when it's all set.


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[Assistant] It is crazy, it's in Vegas now and like none of the people are allowed to step in a sports book. Like I understand, I understand for a million different reasons why, but it's just crazy, they're in Vegas and you can't go to some of the best parts of Vegas. There's a lot of other things to do in Vegas, don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] It's crazy. It's awful. All my friends that work in the league that go to summer league hate that they're like, by the end of it, get me home, get me, I want my own bed, I want to sleep, I want to pay for a meal that's not $48. I can't, I don't know. Is it true though?


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[Assistant] I first want to shout out Earl by the way for...


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[Assistant] Doing this and I think it's the second time we've done it now on UCSS but he's been doing it all month on his Twitter account so if you're not following Earl make sure you do it because he's really enlightened or brought a light to some influential and extremely important figures in our lifetime and one thing with


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[Assistant] Ernie Davis, there were two things that kinda stood out to me. One,


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[Assistant] What did a Heisman season look like in 1961? That's a good question. I have the stats right here. We look at the season, 2,000 yards rushing. A million times. What do you think a Heisman season...


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[Assistant] I mean, they didn't even play that many games. You played 10 games.


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[Assistant] He had a thousand the year before, a thousand eight sophomore season, but four fewer touchdowns.


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[Assistant] He was the first African American Heisman winner. And in a season where the numbers by themselves, and I have no kind, I didn't watch it before, I was not even twinkling my dad's unborn eyes yet. My dad wasn't even born in 1961.


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[Assistant] No, I'm just talking about the last part. I think we all agree they can use a couple more weapons. I was just choosing to ignore the first part.


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[Assistant] You wrote a book? Okay, Earl, please Google this to back it up.


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[Assistant] He co-authored a book with his wife admitting to being a terrible husband and alcoholic and cheating on her and how they found a happy marriage again through faith.


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[Assistant] I just think co-authoring a book with your wife about that is cooler than usual punishment.


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[Assistant] I mean, I've seen the bad boys 30 for 30, you know, full disclosure.


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[Assistant] What was a bad one? It was the late 80s, early 90s, right? Yeaah. Yeaah, I wasn't a lot. So I can't, I, I...


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[Assistant] Could any, but could even any team in today's day and age resemble the bad boy Piston just based on the rules of the league?


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[Assistant] He had such a unique game, like watching him last night. Tripped up. He had almost tripped up in the first quarter. Yeaah. He had it, he really had those two points away at halftime. He got it, he's a hell of a player.


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[Assistant] Big one for the Cavs. Ultimate Cav Show tonight, 5 o'clock. Live, myself, Jason Mitchell for MVP. Most surprising player on the Cavs this season. And another little trade deadline preview. Earl, wrap us up here.


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[Assistant] Plus, ba-da-da-da-da, you're loving him. Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] Uh, nah, everything was, uh, it went perfect for us, man. CJ played flawless, obviously. Didn't turn the football over, just didn't try to force the ball. Uhm, we couldn't have, we couldn't have rolled it up any better, man. There's not too much to say about it. It was just a thorough,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I mean obviously I thought it would be a much closer game. I'm not gonna sit here like I thought we were gonna blow these guys out. Uhm, but I also figured that we could get some room in the running game like I talked about.


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[Assistant] Uh, Singletary did just what he needed to do, broken just enough long runs for us to take a little bit of pressure off of CJ. And then once we get our play-action game going, we've been doing that to everybody this year. So it's not just y'all. I figured if we could protect y'all, which we figured we could, the first game, Miles Garrett didn't really have, he didn't have a sack, I don't believe.


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[Assistant] Uh, Baltimore may have the better team record wise, but Kansas City also has Patrick Mahomes. So at the end of the day, he's always a, he can always pull it out at the end. We know what Patrick does. So either one of these teams, we just got to be ready to go on the road for a tough challenge.


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[Assistant] We'll dive into the kicker in one sec, but I do have a question about Delpit. So he's designated to return. Let's say in a hypothetical world, he is healthy and able to go on Saturday.


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[Assistant] I'm assuming he takes one of the starting spots at safety. Who else would you start alongside Delpit at the other safety spot?


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[Assistant] We're starting with the Dustin Hopkins situation, though you guys alluded to it a second ago, but on a scale of one to ten, it's a two and a half point spread according to FanDuel. The starting kicker for the Browns may be out. How much of a concern is that to you guys, Bull? You wanna start?


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[Assistant] I'm missing one kick after another. It was only one for two.


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[Assistant] I'll look into that, but I was looking at his numbers from Jacksonville last year. He was Jacksonville's full-time kicker, and he was also, he kicked in Detroit first, by the way, for seven games. And then Jacksonville again. And when he's been in Detroit


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[Assistant] At this point, do you consider the Browns to be playing with house money because of the number of injuries they've overcome or because the AFC is completely up in the air, topsy turvy, they have a hot quarterback, the number one defense, they have veterans playing towards the end of the contract.


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[Assistant] Duke at this playoff run is potentially the best chance for the Browns to win a Super Bowl in their current championship window.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like this could be the Browns best chance at whatever their championship hold up is?


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's bring in Leroy here real quick before we get to Leroy. If you are watching the chat, we appreciate you. Hit the like button, hit the subscribe button, completely free. It costs you zero dollars, zero cents, and helps UCSS reach the biggest audience possible. So do us a favor, run up the like count. If you're not a member or a subscriber already, hit that subscribe button. It's completely free. We appreciate you guys. And with that, let's welcome in the national champ himself. That is Leroy Hoard.


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[Assistant] Before we bring in our next guest, a quick reminder that tonight we have a behind the glass. It'll either be 6 or 7, not officially sure.


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[Assistant] We've been hammering home the time, but tonight, me, Earl, Anthony, potentially a very special guest, so stay tuned for that, that is coming up tonight. Potentially a very special guest. Potentially a very, very special guest, yes. I don't wanna say it, cause every time we say a guest is coming, it jinxes it, doesn't work. Potentially a very special guest, but this next guest,


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[Assistant] He's very special in his own right. And he's definitely here. Let's welcome Chris Rose to the show. What's up Chris?


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[Assistant] Chris, always good to talk to Chris Rose. Did a great job filling in for Jimmy Donovan and will continue to do great work. And he mentioned the Browns running game, which brings us right to our next topic. Ironically, that was not even planned out ahead of time, but


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[Assistant] I sent you guys some numbers last night about the Texans running game, the Browns rushing defense, the Browns running game, and I was trying to see if there was any trend in what differentiated the Browns, especially defensively in their wins versus their losses. The big thing is,


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[Assistant] They don't do a great job against a run in their losses. In their 6 losses, they're averaging 127 rush yards allowed per game in their 11 wins. That number drops to 93. The Texans running game has been better of late since Devon Singletary took over.


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[Assistant] But the Browns are also coming off their most successful rushing attack against the Jets. I don't count the Bengals game. Go back to the Jets. Jerome, Ford, Creamhunt. Both looked effective. So I guess the question for you guys is...


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[Assistant] Which offense, Houston or Cleveland, needs a more balanced attack to have sustained success in this wild card round?


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[Assistant] But we'll get to the sound from Antonio later, I promise we'll get to that. And it's very funny, so it's worth sticking around.


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[Assistant] The whole Deshaun Watson to Houston ties have been a major storyline online.


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[Assistant] He's not playing in the game, obviously. He's still on an IR recovery from a shoulder surgery. So I guess the question I want to ask you guys is...


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[Assistant] How big of a storyline should the Deshaun Watson trade his connection and ties to Houston? The fact that he's not playing in this game, CJ Stroud is coming to Houston and taking them to the playoffs. How much of a storyline should that be over the next three, four days as we get ready to take on Houston in the AFC wild card round? I think none at all.


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[Assistant] Hey Bull, by the way, you had Miami and Pittsburgh mixed up. The Browns can't play Pittsburgh next round. They can only play Miami.


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[Assistant] Two more things real quick. One, there's been some players and coaches who's speaking right now, and I want to play a sound bite for you guys. I want to mention a couple of their bites, but, uh, this first one comes from Joel Batonio. This one's awesome.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco and Wyatt Teller. Ant, you ready to play the sound? Whenever you're ready.


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[Assistant] We're, we're working. Listen, we have two or three guests booked each day for the next like seven days. So it's not like we have a ton of, uh, I know, but to get one of the


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[Assistant] They talked about having a, there was a team meeting on Monday between all the players, players only team meeting. The only players who were allowed to speak were players who had been to the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] And I guess Leroy was in a different thought process than us. He took Stroud, he said the playoff experience doesn't matter as much, but...


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[Assistant] I'm surprised a former player said that. I feel like, are maybe we looking too much into experience?


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[Assistant] I don't know. Seattle, Pittsburgh is Detroit. And it was, I think it was. They won the two, so was that his rookie year? Hold on, hold on, hold on.


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[Assistant] Couple super chats here before we wrap up. Thomas Dalton says ESPN says CJ is ranked 27th against man coverage. I'll have to look into that. I'm not sure what's that that's necessarily referring to, but I'll look into it, Thomas. Vonte904life says, what do you think the Browns biggest weakness will be if they can't stop CJ, the run or the pass?


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[Assistant] Steven Singletary, Case Keenum, I guess, is the question, if that's... I'm reading it right, from Vonte. Uh, last one, Jimbo218 says, I believe Nick Chubb's contract is over at the season's end. What is the chance we resign him?


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[Assistant] For the first, well not really for the first time this week. You were on the Monday show. I was on the Monday show. The whole Monday show. Uh, Tyvis is here again today. Good to see you. Jason, I'm gonna start with you. How was Mike as a guest for Christmas?


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[Assistant] Speaking of which, I need you guys to tell me what you think here in this situation. So I am playing for a championship in fantasy football. Oh, me too. A big money one? You tell me!


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[Assistant] I'm playing one big money, right? The guy who I'm playing against for the championship, he texted me yesterday, and he says, hey,


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[Assistant] Do you want to just agree to take the first and second place prizes and split them? So we both get like.


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[Assistant] So I'll tell, so first place is like, oh, it was like, I wanna say it's 1,800. Okay. 1,600, something like that. And second place I think is 800.


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[Assistant] So we take, let's say it's 1600 and the 800 makes 2400, we each get 1200 no matter who wins or loses.


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[Assistant] Based on the projections, I'm a slight favorite to win. But I told them to stick it! I played a win!


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[Assistant] The guy who's our gambling expert is in second place, one game back of me, Jimmy Ott.


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[Assistant] And we think about the excitement level. Jason, you mentioned earlier in the week, I think on the Monday, well it must have to be on the Monday show, the fact that


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[Assistant] It seems like, well not that it seems like it is, the, the mutiny lot's been a little dead the last couple of days. It has. It has been. I rolled back. Which is weird, because the weather's been relatively good.


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[Assistant] I can't really speak pre-2010, so I don't know, maybe the year with, maybe the Derrick Anderson year.


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[Assistant] This city is an underdog. Like it's the perfect combination. Joe Flacco is an underdog. It should be packed and it should be rocking. I'm just expecting it to be bananas. I'm expecting it to be...


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[Assistant] The Baker, the Baker opener against the Jets. It should. It should.


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[Assistant] Well, if it was the Steelers or the Ravens. If it was an Indonesian game even more. But still, the fact that you can clinch, eh, to me makes it huge. But go ahead.


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[Assistant] Right, I mean it, yeaah, it's been, I, I, I, I think it's gonna be huge, I guess you never know.


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[Assistant] And yeaah, when the weather is a little colder, but I mean, I think we've been very lucky with the weather in November, December, compared to most years. I mean, what is the weather tomorrow? I think it's supposed to be a little chilly.


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[Assistant] The Browns lost both their kicker and punter. I wonder if that's ever happened before. That a team lost their kicker and punter in the same weekend.


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[Assistant] So the Browns needed quick answers because they had a game to play four days later.


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[Assistant] And they have signed two veteran players. Uh, Riley Patterson is a guy who's, you know, not been in the league that long. This is his fourth, uh, third year in the NFL.


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[Assistant] He's, we'll start with Kicker here. These are his numbers from this year, guys. The numbers are really good, right? Overall, 15 of 17.


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[Assistant] Which is 88%. He's made 35 and 37 extra points. Lions don't kick a lot of field goals as you can see. They score a ton of points as you can see with the, with the extra points.


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[Assistant] His last game with the Lions was two weeks ago against the Bears.