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[Assistant] Experiences. So if you're 66 years old and you're a multimillionaire, you're not gonna die poor. I believe that you have financial guys that have kept your nest egg correct. You wouldn't be a businessman if you weren't. My thing is, what good does it do you


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, but the fanbase wouldn't know who these guys are. Hold on, hold on, hold on, I know who that is. That's Isaiah Mobley.


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[Assistant] You know what? We need to see what Yasiel Bayerga is all about.


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[Assistant] That's it. I'ma keep it real. I'ma keep it real, Jay. I was gonna say this before McNuggets started and...


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[Assistant] You know what, I used to have a, I used to have that burning thing, and the reason I asked you the question I asked you about finances is, is this, like,


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[Assistant] Sometimes, like, just put it in perspective. I worked, I worked as hard as I ever worked in my life this year. I own like two or three businesses. I worked so hard. It's the most money I ever made in my life. But at the end of the day, you said something that resonates.


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[Assistant] Just because you feel like you're doing well, there's levels to it. And every level of wellness you do, is another level of wellness you gotta pay.


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[Assistant] That's, that's true. And when you start to, you like, oh, this is great. You, and what I learned, I had the biggest awakening when I did taxes. I had to do them three or four times. I was like, hold on, what do you mean? Like, and when you're looking into Dolans,


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[Assistant] There's a certain thing when you are paying payroll out of your pocket.


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[Assistant] Like some people operate businesses as a small business and it is a small business compared to other businesses that just happen to be in Major League Baseball.


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[Assistant] You know, that's all, that's all up to, you know what I'm saying? Cause that's one of the questions I asked them. I said, what are they telling you?


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[Assistant] Uhm, that they want to get some minutes. What did he say to that? He said they just want me to continue to work on defense.


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[Assistant] Uhm, defense, defense, defense. They know I can score. They know I can shoot. It's about, you know what I'm saying, getting in that rotation. It's about playing defense. Now here's the thing about basketball. You know, we just had two guys go down.


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, a lot of times it ain't really about like, oh, did you deserve minutes? There's a lot of people that deserve minutes. It's about the opportunity, right? So when you get that opportunity, you got to go in and do your thing. But like I said before, I told him he was going to get buckets. I said it, you know, when I saw him in the rising challenges. So.


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[Assistant] To me, I'll say this, and this may seem crazy.


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[Assistant] A lot of people say, uh, Evan Mobley is the key.


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[Assistant] But, there's two ways you can skin a cat. If, if you can come in next year in Imani Base and took another leap.


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[Assistant] You know he can score, you can put some weight on him and play defense. Now, look what you got. You got now, instead of Max Shrews, you got a guy that's 6'9", that can knock down shots, and now you can move Max Shrews to the bench, and you don't need Evan Mobley to be getting 25 points a game. So it's more than one way to see the cat. I think he a big part of the big piece.


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[Assistant] And I think they're gonna go with that youth movement, seeing that Craig Porter Jr. just got that four-year deal. And I think, uh, Sam Merrill's gonna get a deal. I think the Cavs' future is very bright.


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[Assistant] We're doing good. Today's Anthony's TV directorial debut. So we're very excited. Had, uh, some tech stuff early we took care of. Hopefully that's all.


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[Assistant] Tomorrow. Tomorrow. And he's there. You guys overlap for one day I think. He comes back Thursday.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you guys overlap one day out there, but we'll have some spring training coverage for you guys coming up. We got a big show today.


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[Assistant] Let's jump into our first topic here, guys. We got some news yesterday that Deshaun Watson may have to go down to Houston and continue his legal situation in one of the unsettled cases. I don't-


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[Assistant] Me and Bull were getting into the exact words. I'm not sure he's being called to testify, but he may be asked to come back and give deposition in one of the unsettled cases. He settled 23 of the 26 last season.


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[Assistant] That's before, we'll give you the actual quote both. I know what you're looking for. Okay, go ahead. Yea, take the next one in.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, we're gonna move on. If you wanna go to a Guardians game this season, go to Indianapolis and see Donovan Mitchell play in the All-Star game this weekend. There's no better place to get tickets for the best price available.


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[Assistant] Earlier in the week, we talked about a quarterback ranking list from the 33rd team, and we focused on the overall big picture of it, not the specific rankings. Today, we're focusing on the specific rankings of a list from the 33rd team and the specific writer, Dan Pezzuta. These are the 10 best- Is it the same writer? No, different writer. This is from Dan Pezzuta.


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[Assistant] That was something Classe, K-L-A-S-A. This is Dan Pazuda. This is the 10 best quarterbacks set to hit free agency this off season. And Joe Flacco, our guy.


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[Assistant] A recurring guest on UCSS came in at number nine on the list behind some other guys like Tyler Huntley, Tarad Taylor, Kirk Cousins, and Baker Mayfield 1-2 on this list. Guys, what do you make about Joe Flacco being ranked at nine behind some of the guys ahead of him on this particular list from the 33rd team?


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[Assistant] But that's three years ago. Yeah, that's true. So G, what do you think about Joe Flacco being ranked at number nine?


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[Assistant] He is of the Watson mold. He kinda does have a s- it's gonna sound crazy, but-


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[Assistant] Similar skill set based on the archetype of the quarterback. He's more mobile than he gets credit for. He killed the Browns with RBO.


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[Assistant] Limited them at a time with our live guest from Arizona. That'll be Will Brennan. But Will Brennan's brought to us today by...


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[Assistant] Alternate home run total for Will Brennan this year. I'm going 44 and a half on the over for my guy, Will Brennan, who joins us again. 44 and a half. 44 and a half. That's a lot. That's a lot. What's up, Will? No pressure, Will. You need to hit 44.


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[Assistant] Well, I got one quick one for you. Are you surprised more players don't at least try the Shohei route of pitching and hitting because you look at them like, what do you say?


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[Assistant] Do you think maybe with the success Shohei's had and Jack Cagley owns, the guy at Florida you mentioned, uh, there was a guy at a Yukon who was drafted by the Giants who was a pitcher hitter. I'm not sure he's gotten the chance in the major league level, but.


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[Assistant] Are you surprised there aren't more cases like Shohei just based on how dominant some guys are at both facets of the game through some pretty high ranks like college and maybe it's something that happens more in the pro level now that Shohei is proving it can't be done.


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[Assistant] I think I told the story, but as we were walking in, Jay had hit a home run in his game the day before. And Jay's like, I already got my home run, not taking this seriously. And your wife goes, you're lying to yourself.


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[Assistant] Like you can find on Game Time for the WKYC Celebrity Softball Game, or any Guardians game this year, any CAS games, any Browns game next year.


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[Assistant] Not only could it be cloudy, but the final four, the women's final four is Friday, Sunday, the fifth and seventh opening days, the eighth. Wow. That weekend is going to be bonkers. It is gold.


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[Assistant] Speaking of permanent damage, Jay, this Guardians pitching rotation could do permanent damage to opposing teams lineups. You asked the question to Will Brennan, let's start with you, Bull, cause you gave your answer a little while Brennan was talking, of all the Guardians pitchers this season.


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[Assistant] Alright, so back to the Donovan Mitchell odds here. He actually has the lowest.


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[Assistant] I guess the highest, the worst odds, the best way to say it, the worst odds of the three points shoot out in the last day it moved from nine to one. He's now nine and a half to one.


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[Assistant] If you want to bet, yea, please take that, please. Uh, Damien Lillard's the favorite, plus 370. Mitchell has the worst odds at plus 950 to win All-Star Game MVP.


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[Assistant] It's all over the board and you can take next graphic whenever you want. Mitchell's now up to 13 to 1, slightly behind Luka Doncic at 12 to 1. Jason Tatum, LeBron and Janis are your three favorites. If you had to place a bet.


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[Assistant] Would you rather place your money 13 to 1 on Mitchell winning the All-Star Game MVP or 9.5 to 1 on Mitchell winning the NBA's 3 point shootout?


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[Assistant] Tatum may have been the start of the year he won. He scored 51. He got hot and they just kept him in. I'm not sure if he was a starter or not. That's what has to happen.


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[Assistant] G, I actually think if you want to throw a little flyer on the three point shooter, I think that's a great, I mean, he's not the favorite first off, but he's actually going to pay, but I think that's actually phenomenal odds for a random weird shootout that Steph Curry's not in. Steph Curry's not in there. Don't bet on anyone else.


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[Assistant] It's an open field. I mean, Malik Beasley is better odds than Donovan Mitchell. And I think that's an absurd idea to have Malik Beasley in this kind of situation, have better odds than a three point shootout. At the juice point, he gets hot, makes three or four in that first rack. He can put up a monster score. So I love those nine, nine and a half to one. Great odds on FanDuel.


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[Assistant] I'm the second Anthony Antonelli. I was named after my grandfather.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was Bernie. You just called him Mr. Antonelli, didn't you? So like, is Bernie short for Bernard? Yeah. Okay.


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[Assistant] Oh, I use my own name for those. Yeah. Like I just got mad in 24 and it's my own name.


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[Assistant] What position did you play? I'm a quarterback right now. I am 4-1 with the Minnesota Vikings. So you're not a Brown? No, I just let it draft wherever.


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[Assistant] Moving on guys, I just want to remind everybody that if you're looking for tickets, I'm known as the tickets guy here at the UCSS. So I'd be ashamed to tell you guys, or if I didn't tell you guys about game time, game time, it takes all the guesswork out of buying tickets. If you're trying to go to a Cavs game, to a guardians game,


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[Assistant] You can download the Game Time app, you can create an account, and then you use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase. Simple as that, go use Game Time to get all of your tickets. It's fantastic. As somebody who has every ticket app possible on their phone, it's my favorite by far.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you guys gave defensive end blue, defensive tackle green, linebackers yellow, cornerbacks blue, and safeties green, and then from yesterday...


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[Assistant] You guys gave the QB yellow, running back yellow, wide receiver pink, tight end blue, and O line green.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Mike, so you are doing an Ultimate Cav show tonight at 6 o'clock with Jason Lloyd, even though he is on vacation over at Spring Training. I almost said Spring Break. He probably would rather be at Spring Break. Why don't you tell us what we're talking about tonight?


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[Assistant] Yeah guys, so nfl.com decided to grade Andrew Barry's rookie class from 2023.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they graded everybody, but we landed at 23 with a class grade of C. And I want to know.


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[Assistant] You guys think that's fair? With all of our rookies that played today? I want to mind you that only one of them didn't start a game and it was Seaki Ika. Everybody else at least started one game. Earl, do you want to start here?


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[Assistant] No, not yet. So Jason's dealing with some connectivity problems out there at Spring Training, but I do have a question for you guys. I'm sorry if I missed it while I was working with Jason. What do you think the ticket prices in Cleveland will be during his farewell tour when he comes through? What do you think these ticket prices will even be close to?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and like Mike said, and you gotta go to Game Time if you're gonna go get tickets for this farewell tour. It takes all the guesswork out. You can download the Game Time app, you create an account, you use code LOCKEDON for $20 off your first purchase.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's pretty awesome. I mean, I feel like we got a good blend of like veteran leadership with Shane and I guess Tristan's considered a veteran on our team because we're all so young. Uhm, and then you have like me, Gavin Logan, who kind of went through the wringer last year a little bit, kind of got introduced.


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[Assistant] I think it's awesome. I think it's all about healthy competition with us. I think we all want to be the best, we all want to be the ace, but obviously we respect each other a lot and I think at the end of the day we're all just trying to be the best and be in a good spot.


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[Assistant] I always tell people sports is just like music. It's a young person's game.


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[Assistant] I don't listen to rap music and be like, oh my gosh, I'm so into this new rap. No, because it's a young man's game. Like, it's about a vibe, it's energy. So like,


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[Assistant] I'm not going to tune into the All-Star game and think that it's going to be Magic vs. Isaiah Thomas and Burb, like playing hard.


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[Assistant] Crap! Same thing! Like, when Madonna was taking over the world, they were like, cushing their per- Like a virgin?


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[Assistant] Do you think that's really still a rule? It is. No, no, it is. It is. Mandatory. So, so. You cannot have facial hair on the ankles. So, if Shohei Otani. I think you could have a mustache. You could have a mustache now. If Shohei Otani was like, I'm gonna grow a beard, they're like not gonna take him. I mean, if he forced


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[Assistant] We said they should bring back two out of three between Hearst, Shelby Harris, and


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[Assistant] It's injury, it's performance, it's uh, contract. So it's all the above letter D, like. If you're, uh, did anybody put him in blue?


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[Assistant] It's because as I was here with Jay, I read it off, I read off the knee injury that he had, like, and it wasn't even a knee injury that he had this year. I read off three torn ligaments when he got hurt back in Georgia in 2015. So this is the second time he's torn multiple ligaments, three, so six in total.


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[Assistant] To me, he has to be, and he's a way better athlete than me. Be clear. Uhm, I've had 17 some odd surgeries. I've torn my ACL and MCL and all that other good stuff. Here's what I do know just from, just from the circumstance.


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[Assistant] Yes, medicine has gotten a ton better. Uhm, you're never really up to what you used to be. However, the goal is and the hope is that


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[Assistant] 98% of Nick Chubb is way better than 100% of other people, right? I think 85% of Nick Chubb is better than most basketball players.


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[Assistant] And there's a, and there's a, another thing about the question is, what does offense look like? Right? You know, it's not going to be the same old Nick Chubb offense where we hand him the ball. Hey, look, trust me, I'm the guy that wanted to give him 20 carries every week.


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[Assistant] I don't think 20 carries every week is definitely not in the program now. I think that they'd be smart to go get another running back and, and, and to lessen the blow and then give, if you get 12 good carries from Nick Chubb,


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[Assistant] I take the 12 good carries, right? Uh, you know, and then if he's 12, if he's blue chipped for 12 carries.


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[Assistant] Right, if you said, if you told me looking at how many starting receivers there are, if you do three receiver sets.


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[Assistant] Yeah. It's 90. It's 90. 96. I'm going blue chips is 10.


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[Assistant] Give me 10 guys. Yeah. And that's only, I'm, uh, everybody can't be blue chip.


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[Assistant] In my head, when I look at it, just naming off the top of my head. Now here's where I differ, like I don't know if I would put Pooka Nakua


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[Assistant] Since I've done an exercise and I see the net, now I can say, yeah, you're right. He's a green. Yeah. Now the same thing with David and Joku. If I go through the list, now I'm not, it's only one tight end that usually starts.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, and you know what old line, you going, they start going on name after a while. Yes, that's 100% true. You just be like, oh, I heard his name a bunch. Right, he must be good.


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[Assistant] You don't see it. It's like until you're like forced to be like dang it. Right. It looks terrible or it's getting cut.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't mind him being a yellow if he's just a specialist because I'm going to play him on Pass Rushdown. I don't got a problem with saying he's not going to be no run stuff or nothing.


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[Assistant] So, and I gave that to Alex Wright. I gave him a yellow. Uhm, you know, that's not a bad thing. I didn't love the category.


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[Assistant] I think they got, I think the Browns defense has three blueship players and one of them is, one of them is J.O.K. and another one is.


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[Assistant] How often do you see that? He was the best player on that field defensively for both teams against the Texans and the Browns. Best player.


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[Assistant] There's yellows to me and I think recency bias has you feeling more pinkish or newsome just cause.


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[Assistant] He just didn't do very well on Nikko Collins. They just made, they was like, yea Nikko, like we're gonna, like Emerson, we not gonna mess with him, we gonna mess, we gonna go right at you though. And it was just tough on some of those, but I think he's still a yellow too.


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[Assistant] And I think that they're now, I have Emerson at green, but I think he has, if he, here's my problem, if he was a little bit faster, like he, like he, he has to be in position, he has to use his hands, he has to be physical, that's cool. If he was faster, man, he'd be wondering about


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[Assistant] I'm willing to do, I thought Earl said something the other day about injuries that I agree with. Like now, just knowing how football is and they playing 17 games and still got preseason games and all this other stuff and given the wear and tear that they have in college, you gotta play three years. I'm, if you can get 10 games out of a guy,


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[Assistant] I'm like, okay, if you can get 12 games out of a guy, like out of 17, you like, oh, I'm excited about that. If you get 14 out of 17, I start to look at that as like, yeah, that's excellent because for me,


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[Assistant] It just seems like, especially with defenders, like, safeties and corners where they gotta hit people, it's too much stuff. Like, they can either have head injuries, stingers, shoulders, and they have soft tissue things like calves.


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[Assistant] So if I get a receiver or a corner that give me 14, I'ma take that.


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[Assistant] You can't, but I look at the way, I don't think this is an anomaly last year. I think you were going to have, it may not be the Browns next year, but you're going to have a team.


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[Assistant] I thought about you, I was on Johnson and Peterson this morning on the radio and I thought about, we did this topic, this is off topic, but maybe we'll talk about it later on in the week. Uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] Are you monitoring what the Pittsburgh Steelers may do? Like, you know, there's a couple of options where I feel like, you know, are you scared? Like, not scared, but you're like, okay, Justin Fields is an upgrade.


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[Assistant] I feel like, you know, uh, Russell Wilson is an upgrade. I think a bag of rocks is an upgrade.


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[Assistant] And if that's an upgrade and they already went to the playoffs, like I was looking around and I'm like, that's scary. Kirk Cousins to the Steelers?


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[Assistant] Uhm, his stats were fine. But what I would be scared of is...


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[Assistant] The second half, and they got pickings, and you know they got two pass rushers.


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[Assistant] And they got Deontay Johnson. So it's like in Kirk Cousins, he gon' be steady. He's, you know, he gon' come in and work. He gon' come in. He's a calming presence. And Mike Tomlin could be a tyrant on the sideline with his dog tags and his deviator glasses.


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[Assistant] I kinda would lean, I would lean that direction. Yeaah. A little bit.


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[Assistant] Well, Chad Johnson said it. He said he thought he had some inside information. He was on with Shannon Sharp. He said he's been hearing Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh for a long period of time.


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[Assistant] We can roll with that. I just, I just do not want to go down this narrow pathway, down this hallway again. Like, you know, they're saying he's throwing the football right now, right?


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[Assistant] You can't cut Jack Conklin. You just did the deal. You just, you've restructured Betonio and Teller. You can't do those re-


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[Assistant] This is why I'm gonna, listen, I use these examples as real life. When they tell you don't talk about politics, they're like, well no, like, this is a political thing. Like, there are certain people that have such a rabid fan base that there are certain people that are still upset at the Browns for cutting Bernie Cozart. To this day.


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[Assistant] And if you don't, and we don't have nothing, like we don't have championships to hold onto. We got a bunch of ghosts and different things that we've done bad. So people don't get over nothing. So they're like, I don't like that you got rid of Bernie.


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[Assistant] Uh, people still don't like that the guardians don't spend money because they had all these players and they feel like they didn't do anything. Yeah. And you got people to this day that won't go to the games. You change the colors. You change this. They don't like it. But the Nick Chubb thing is even worse because guess what? He's Nick Chubb. They saw him.


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[Assistant] He plays injured, he, he has the, he broke the record for, uh, all time, you know, yards and catching the football, and then they had to back off of Mario Cooper, cause people started saying, oh no, no, you, yeah, Mario Cooper's back too, what are you talking about?


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[Assistant] And you come out and you say, we have just signed a contract with Nick Chubb that effectively makes him a brown for life.


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[Assistant] Or if they lowball him and say, we're going to offer you five million dollars or something for one year. Yeah, that's what we're saying. If he won't renegotiate.


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[Assistant] Oh, it's a, it's a, it's a hundred percent. Like, he gon' get that Udonis Haslam. Like, you know, like.


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[Assistant] Look, he would move right from where he's doing right now to somewhere in the front office. He's not going nowhere.


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[Assistant] Like many, uhm, there's a check or pass, right? Now, I always go to this and I always give people the way you perceive things, right? People talk about Michael Jordan being a great leader.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then you go back and you look at it and be like.


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[Assistant] Well, it was how good it was to lead her. He had let Dennis Rodman go to Vegas and told Phil Jackson he was going to do it. He didn't back Scottie Pippen, who was his second best player on the contract, these people. He, like, he was notorious for fighting with Steve Kerr.


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[Assistant] But his number's not retired. It's not retired. I think eventually it will get there. I think that's a thing that'll happen.


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[Assistant] I can look at, uh, you know, George Washington, right? And I can say well George Washington owned slaves, but George Washington was


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[Assistant] Based on just one or two things, you got to take the totality. So to say, like, if I say, all right, well, we got to get rid of George Washington, people will say, well, you really can't do that. You can't tell the history of America without George Washington. I don't think you could take, you can't listen and say the story of the NFL without Jim Brown.


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[Assistant] Yes, he had a check or pass, but he also did some very good things and was one of the first people to, to be with Bill Russell and Muhammad Ali and the civil rights and pushing for the poor people and, and, and his American program and, and developing and redeveloping


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[Assistant] With a couple people and that's why I, you know, love, love football pride in, in Ohio. Got Mary Motley.


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[Assistant] You got Paul Brown. You got Jim Brown. You can't tell the story of the NFL without those guys. So yes, I do think they should retire his jersey, but I also think that they should bring to light


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[Assistant] Some of his mistakes as well as some of his great things that he's done. I think everyone has a past and I think it's all about how you share and the lesson you get from it.


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[Assistant] I think sometimes the, you know, this is why I have a very...


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[Assistant] I have a passion for history. I think some people, uhm, that's why when people say get rid of this book and get rid of this book, I kind of shudder because I'm like, if I'm a black person and I can understand that yes, uh, you know, uh, you know,


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[Assistant] Washington and Jefferson had slaves. Uhm, some of them fathered multiple children, uh, in the case of Jefferson.


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[Assistant] If I can understand that yes, that was a...


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[Assistant] I think in crime against humanity, I also can say


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[Assistant] Without those people, I wouldn't be sitting where I am today. So you kind of have to...


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[Assistant] You know, you have to look at certain things, and then I was looking at it this way too.


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[Assistant] If you do some things in your past, how have you changed as a man?


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[Assistant] Right? I'm sure Jim Brown in his, in his conversations with the youth, he tells them like, look, I did some things that, hey, I'm not very proud of, but it's all about turning into a leaf and being about what you are today. And I think in America,


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[Assistant] That's the best thing about America is like, you can have redemption. Like, there's no such thing. Michael Vick had redemption. There's people in our country that have gone to jail, paid their debt to society, came out and did great things.


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[Assistant] So I think, I think that's one of the situations.


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[Assistant] I think, I kinda even look at it, and I try to look at it from a standpoint of even what McNugget said. Like, I think once you signal people out, and once you say, that's the example of what you gotta do to get like, your number retired.


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[Assistant] I think you, you know, some people are a little at arm's length because of the fact of


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[Assistant] You know, you don't want, when you, when you do that, you promoting everyone. You on Myle Rushmore?


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[Assistant] And then they had to come back and retract it after George Floyd happened and was like, you know what, that was, we kinda, we should have probably thought about this a little better. And I think the NFL, more than any other group of people,


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[Assistant] Uhm, the NFL is the most popular league. Uhm, the MLB has made different, different political moves or moves with steroids or keeping people out to all the fame. I just think the NFL is like, alright, well, if we ain't gotta step in it, we ain't gonna step in it. Yeaah. They like to avoid that. They would like to avoid that.


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[Assistant] It, it's, it's a thing that it just comes with the territory. Like, it's, like, when you are a public figure,


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[Assistant] There are going to be people who don't have an infrastructure, who don't have a solid family foundation, and they will emulate the things you do and want to do things that you want to do. I think that's just an un- it's just part of the game. Like it just comes with-


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[Assistant] Now, like you said, it's different if you're a grown person. Now as you get grown and you get older and you figure things out,


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[Assistant] Like, you, you, you should, you should be like, hey, it's okay, you tell your son, hey, you can admire his skills on the floor. Right. But there are certain things that I, he, you shouldn't do when you become older. That's right. That, that he did.


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[Assistant] He could have ended his career out and like, think about all the years that him and LeBron could have legitimately played together. And I felt the Warriors was coming to an end. I thought they just got frustrated and imploded. But when he left, it was kind of a thing where I believe truly that LeBron would have always stayed if Kyrie would have stayed.


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[Assistant] If, cause he didn't even want Dan Gilbert to trade him. If he would have stayed, I think he would have retired as a calf and never went to, to the Lakers. But I think after that, he kind of thought like,


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[Assistant] Well, it's kind of dry again. Here we go back to the old school rap. So, I'm gonna go with Kyrie.


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[Assistant] Then they went through a, like, it just stuck, like, I don't know why the, like, the ownership don't understand this. Then it went from, from the stud hitters to, alright, we got stud pitchers. Well yeaah, one of the guys I considered was Sabathia. I thought about CC too, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Now the Indians did have Marquise Grissom, and Marquise Grissom was a higher level than Bourne was.


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[Assistant] Think about up the middle. This might have been the greatest I've ever seen. Lofton and Center.


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[Assistant] I mean, didn't you sprinkle in, they still had guys like Richie Sexton, who hit a bunch of home runs, or Brian Giles, or Paul Sorrento. Good players, good hitters.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I don't understand how you can


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[Assistant] His advanced stats were, yea, really, really good. And he was one of the only, only baseball players to ever have a signature Nike shoe deal.


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[Assistant] Even the way he wore it, Griffey was the first dude to not have tight baseball pants that came down over his clits. He had signature Nike cleats. Like, Griffey wore his hat backward, bro. The way he swung the bat was just so pretty. I was gonna say. It looked like every time he was gonna hit a home run.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, yeaah, yeaah. Craig Council? Or Mickey Teddleton. Like, I love the way he used to hold the bat like this, bro. I'm like, how do you eat the bat through this?


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[Assistant] It was crazy, like, he, like, for me, he was like, I'm like, man, this dude, like, he was it, like.


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[Assistant] That's why, that's why it's so tough when, like, it's so hard when you talk about bonds. Like, you gotta think about it.


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[Assistant] Bonds had already won like four MVPs prior to even getting big. Like, but Mary Bonds was like, I used to feel like him and the Pittsburgh Pirates used to just play the Braves every day.


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[Assistant] He's, his hot stuff seems to take us all the time to three rivers a while to pack pirates.


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[Assistant] I, I, I forgot. I'm disrespectful. I should have known this. Paul Warfield was the guy.


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[Assistant] My dad said Paul Brown, Brown was so popular, he thought that that's why they called him the Brown.


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[Assistant] Right. I think there's a lot of people that think that. Like, so there's Paul Brown Tiger Stadium in Massillon, Ohio. It's named after him. There's Paul Brown Tiger Stadium in Cincinnati. And people think that Paul Brown is the reason the Browns are the Browns. Like, that's kinda crazy.


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[Assistant] And by the way, after watching a lot of documentaries and going through it, the city of Cleveland screwed him a little bit.


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[Assistant] The city of Cleveland did a little bit when it came to


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[Assistant] Like, oh yeaah, like you giving stadiums out, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh we, and Art Modell put a lot of his own money into the city. Art Modell wasn't that wealthy, but Art Modell would give money, he's giving money for this, putting his own money down, and I could see why he was upset.


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[Assistant] Yeah. That's true. That's crazy. Yeah. And we already talked about it. All the Browns' best receivers got black and white pictures.


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[Assistant] No, I didn't do that. You just did it. I went like this. I notoriously in middle school. But I can't shoot. I admit that. I used to shoot with two hands and my dad, he's like, yo, I was like, but it's going in though. He's like.


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[Assistant] He was like, bro, if you don't stop shooting with two hands, you gonna get cut.


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[Assistant] Do you, do you ever take into consideration this?


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[Assistant] That I believe the general population has fallen off and digressed so much that people don't know how to play a regular


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[Assistant] When I grew up, we used to play 21 or 33. Like, you don't know, like, you don't know the game 21 or 33.


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[Assistant] Like after, you know, I played basketball in high school, so what happened is like,


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[Assistant] Basketball players are elitists. Like, so, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they would not invite you.


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[Assistant] If you, they didn't feel like you was worthy. So they would have these open runs where it's like, oh, you can only be, if you didn't play in high school or you didn't play AAU or you wasn't a college dude or you wasn't a dude that was playing semi pro overseas, like you wouldn't even know where they was playing at. They would be like Saturdays is at the Y.


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[Assistant] Fridays is that over at the center like it would be like these closed practices because


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[Assistant] That is, to me, it goes like New York is the mecca of basketball. There's no, there's no, like, like there's other places like Chicago, like Chicago got some really good programs like DC, like Berry Farms and Baltimore, they got good ball, but like New York, like by far,


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[Assistant] We always wonder why Shaq wasn't on that team. That sucks.


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[Assistant] I don't like Space Jam, like Mike, none of that.


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[Assistant] Save the Last Dance? Save the Last Dance? The Michael Jordan thing? No, that's just the last dance. I'm talking about Save the Last Dance. I don't know what Save the Last Dance is. Oh boy, Booby Miles dancing around with, what's her name? Claire Danes? What is it? I thought Love of Basketball.


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[Assistant] Okay, makes sense. Like just because they don't do anything today, if they don't do anything today, it doesn't mean that they're not going to do anything at all.


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[Assistant] A whole buyout market is going to develop of veterans on bad teams that don't get moved today. Right. That will become available to them. So they still have, and if there's nothing there, then they could take that money and convert Craig Porter off his two-way deal and give him a roster spot. Right. Why not Amani Bates? He's already on the roster.


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[Assistant] I mean, you don't know what Tristan's gonna look like when he comes back from the suspension. You don't know if the horse vitamins he was using or whatever it was that he was using, you know, that's why he was able to play. You just don't know.


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[Assistant] But it's, it's giving him confidence to know that he can do it. I think he needed the confidence. He's been practicing.


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[Assistant] For years he's been practicing the shot. At some point you gotta shove him off the boat and see if he can swim.


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[Assistant] And so far, he's figured it out. Now, you know, two games doesn't make, doesn't mean it's gonna continue, but it's certainly a good sign.


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[Assistant] That he can do this. And when he can do this, it changes the entire


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[Assistant] complexion of that offense when Jared and Evan are playing next to each other. You can play them together so much more frequently.


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[Assistant] On offense, if Evan's gonna hit those shots. So it's a game changer as far as I'm concerned. He doesn't have to shoot 8, 9, 10 of them.


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[Assistant] I gotta go out there. And here's the thing, I talked about it, I think I talked about it when I was in earlier this week.


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[Assistant] Isaac Okoro, they're still going to leave him open in the playoff series. They want to make Isaac, they want Isaac to show them that he can make those. And if Isaac makes,


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[Assistant] Two or three in a postseason game, they're gonna come out and guard them. If Evan makes one or two or three in a postseason game, they're gonna come out on them.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's, it's true that they are close to an agreement. Yeaah. It's not done. I don't, I already forgot what the tweet said if it was done or not. But it's not, it's not done, but they're close to an agreement. Yes. That would give them the right to purchase it. So that's true. Uhm.


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[Assistant] It's a hammer in negotiations, right? I think the Browns have been


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[Assistant] So now they just went out and bought a really big hammer. Or they're in the process of potentially buying a really big hammer that you can say, okay, well then we're just going to go over here.


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[Assistant] Now there's still a lot of loops to close if you're going to try and build a new stadium on this land. But uhm,


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[Assistant] Certainly it's a, uh, obviously that's why they're buying it, right? Like that's why they're buying it. Now you could buy that land, sit on it, and redevelop it into something else, you know? Sure.


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[Assistant] You could, but obviously this is right next to the practice facility. It's close to the stadium. It's a giant area. The thing that's interesting, I've actually been the last few days digging in on the stadium stuff.


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[Assistant] And I was kind of zeroing in on the Ix Center. That's where I thought... The other side of the... I was on the wrong side. Yeah. So...


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[Assistant] The, but the interesting part about this land is there are, let's say that this gets done in the stadiums going here, there are FAA rules about height restrictions that close to the airport.


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[Assistant] Because of runways and everything else. So depending on where they put this thing,


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[Assistant] I was told, because when I was looking at the IX Center site, I was told they may have to put a significant portion of it underground because you have to keep it low for the runways.


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[Assistant] With the, uh, with the Brown Stadium? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but still, you still have to fly over it. You still have to fly over it. That's actually a good question, but I was told like, FAA rules, they're gonna have to like, again, when I was looking at the IX Center site, but this still applies to it because it's still right next to the airport.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, they're expanding it, I think, or they're renovating it. Yeah. But they're not, it's not like they're building a new airport somewhere. I mean, not somewhere else, but I mean, like, I thought they were redoing the whole thing. Well, it needs redone because Hopkins Airport is terrible compared to...


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[Assistant] The way it was described to me was there is zero economic impact.


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[Assistant] There's a different airport that's actually closer to Foxboro than Boston.


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[Assistant] He wants to own, he wants to buy a big plot of land.


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[Assistant] He's gonna have to put in a significant portion. He'll get public funding for the rest, which is not an easy sell, because these things are really expensive. And then he can build up the area around it. Shopping, hotels, restaurants.


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[Assistant] Okay, because the reason that Indianapolis is so good with the conventions and everything is because Lucas Oil Stadium is attached to their convention center.


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[Assistant] So that's why they can do so many different events. That's why I was just wondering if there's any way at all to connect this to the IX Center. Like they do in Indianapolis. Probably.


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[Assistant] And the other part on all this is, and I don't think that these projects are connected.


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[Assistant] They're not, one is not reliant on the other, but the city of Cleveland has this push to bring women's soccer into the city. And in order to do that,


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[Assistant] They need a place to play, and they're not putting a women's soccer team that's going to draw two or three thousand people probably at the start.


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[Assistant] So the, the idea is if Cleveland could get a 10,000 seat outdoor structure facility,


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[Assistant] It would be perfect for, you could do women's soccer. You could possibly bring a men's soccer team. Like the women's soccer team would be like the anchor tenant. But you could bring, uh, state championship high school football playoffs to that. You could bring St. Ignatius could play its home games there. You could bring the Paralympics there.


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[Assistant] No, I'm saying with the new, if they can build this new 10,000 seat facility.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm saying these are like parallel tracks. You've got the Brown Stadium track, and you've got this other facility track. If you're gonna bring a women's soccer team here, you gotta have them play somewhere. And they're not gonna put them in a 70,000 seat arena. So there's just this spot.


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[Assistant] It could be. Oh, okay, I see. It could be. Yeaah. It's a, it's a possible, like it right there is a- I mean, they gotta do something with it. Yeaah. Yeaah. But somewhere they have to put this 10,000 seat, if they're gonna bring women's soccer here. And I was told you could build this thing for 60 million to 100 million somewhere in there. It's not the 2 billion dollar price tag that comes with the new football stadium. And you could, and David Gilbert does such a phenomenal job here.


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[Assistant] In town with events and everything else, he could fill that thing all summer long. Concerts, comedians, uh, St. Ignatius home football games.


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[Assistant] It was rushed. Yeaah. It's the, the, I mean this isn't important to most fans. Yeaah. But it's very important to corporate suite holders and ticket. Yeaah. You can't see, the sight lines are terrible. Yeaah. From some of the most expensive suites, you can't even see the scoreboard, you can't see punts, that sort of thing. Right.


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[Assistant] When's the lease up? 28? If the lease is up in 28, it'll be 29. If the lease is up in... The year after the lease is up. The year after the lease is up. And yes, I believe it'll have a roof. Okay. I've come around on that by the way, because I didn't think it would.


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[Assistant] That price never came out. I think we reported around like 400 million and I was told that wasn't accurate but I never did see what the accurate number was. But remember, he just sold Pilot.


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[Assistant] But there are different revenue streams you can look at. You can look at gambling, which I've been a proponent of since they passed it.


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[Assistant] I can't, I don't want to misspeak the numbers, but when they first legalized gambling, Ohio was going to rank like just below I think Vegas in the amount of money.


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[Assistant] It's still sort of the Wild Wild West and sort of the taxes around it. So they haven't figured out. Like gambling, money goes to, like gambling addiction classes and education. I'm not advocating to take money away from that. I'm saying you


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[Assistant] The state, gambling is not legal in Minnesota.


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[Assistant] Yet, Minnesota did these like, pull-tab tickets.


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[Assistant] And they made so much money off those pull tab tickets that they were in position to pay off their loans or to pay off the public portion of it years ahead of schedule. So if you can look at gambling, if you can look at marijuana, I think that there's avenues there that you can generate enough. Can we get the hookers involved? I mean, what's going on? Oh, and again, if that's the case, we have


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[Assistant] I have no idea. I'll say 60-40 to be different.


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[Assistant] Is, I was just trying to look it up real quick. Is Chad O'Shea the only position coach returning, the receiver? I mean, Callie's on staff too. Yea, well she's the assistant. If, I was just going to


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[Assistant] Well, Jed was a right in college, they moved him to the left. Dewan was right in college. You want to move Dewan to the left?


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[Assistant] A little bit. I just wonder about like, hey, you played great last year, we love you, we believe in you, now go sit on the bench. What's that gonna do to him? What's that gonna do to him? When the flag on him coming in was maturity.


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[Assistant] And plus on the defensive side, I don't want this to sound like offensive linemen don't exert energy because of course they do. But when you're attacking, when you're rushing from the defensive side, it's going to take more out of you than if you're...


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[Assistant] Because Kelsey's the lock to me. Kelsey's the lock- Kelsey's a bigger lock than McCaffrey.


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[Assistant] And he scored 52 runs, which is not necessarily his fault, but that's not a great number either.


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[Assistant] I mean, Nate Ivaldi. It's hard to compare a pitcher to a hitter. Yeaah, it's hard. I would lean pitcher probably. I would take Ivaldi and Cease over Naylor. Right.


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[Assistant] Royce Lewis for sure. Yeah. Casus is a better first baseman than Naylor. Casus is behind him. Yeah, Casus should be ahead of Naylor. Yeah, like, I'm surprised Nathaniel Lowe's not here. He should be ahead of him, yeah.


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[Assistant] Although Lowe's a very similar type, high average, mid power. Yeaah, he's got a little more power than Naylor. How many homers does Lowe have? I thought he had more than 20, didn't he?


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[Assistant] Joan should probably be higher than that, but again, he only did it once. Yea, he only did it once, but man, the Guardian.


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[Assistant] Klaus A will be up there. Yeaah, Klaus A will be up there.


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[Assistant] Bibi, Bibi will be on there. He thinks he's in the top 60? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Maybe I'm being biased, but I think they should both be on the top 100 list.


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[Assistant] Bybee should be on that list somewhere. He was second on the rookie that you're voting.


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[Assistant] And he wasn't an elite prospect, but he was highly well thought of. R. Keith Law said he could be a future number one.


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[Assistant] But again, you have to factor ceiling into it. Verlander's at the end. He is what he is. Right. Bybee's got a lot more runway ahead of him.


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[Assistant] Welcome, welcome to our lovely home.


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[Assistant] There was a game last year or the year before where there was no food pre-game because the guy was new and got lost.


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[Assistant] Remember that? At the stadium? There was, he was like pushing the food around somewhere underneath and couldn't find where to go and there was like no food. At the Brown Stadium. Yeaah!


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[Assistant] Baltimore's gone down, they took away the crab cakes. So what's better?


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[Assistant] I was not impressed with Cincinnati this year, but both are better than the Browns. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] Right, right, that's true. I mean, the laws were rewritten when the Browns left the last time. They truly, like legally, they can't leave.


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[Assistant] Without Jimmy having to sell a team. They can't leave Cleveland, or they can't leave the Northeast Ohio? They can't leave this region. They can't, I mean they can leave the city of Cleveland and go apart. But you can't leave...


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[Assistant] And the city sort of pushed off the Browns. They were focused on progressive, well, Jacobs Field at the time. They were focused on bringing the calves from Richfield to downtown. And they told the Browns, we'll take care of you later. We'll get to you. We'll get to you. We'll get to you.


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[Assistant] And Art ran out of time, money, and patience. And that's how he wanted to be an owner. Well, he was, and that's how they wound up in Baltimore. And now I think Jake's a hundred percent right. The city's been slow.


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[Assistant] To come to the table, I think the city's looking at this as this isn't until 2028.


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[Assistant] And personally, I think that's the wrong approach. I've talked to people who do stadium deals and they say the time to do it is now.


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[Assistant] That's not the Brown saying that, that's people who have built these stadiums and said, you need to work on this three, four, five, six years out. You can't wait until the last minute to do that.


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[Assistant] I do think, I do think though that Jimmy's got a lot of PR, a lot of people don't like him. The FBI scandal. And the Deshawn thing that didn't go over well with a ton of great fans.


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[Assistant] And sued by Warren Buffett and all that. There's some hurdles there that if you're going to put something on the ballot and you want public money, and I don't know what you think, I don't think he's paying for the whole thing. I think he sold Pilot to put up his portion of it. I don't see him writing a check for two billion dollars to build a brand new stadium.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's awful. My personal opinion, just my opinion. I don't think they were ever serious about renovating that stadium. I think that was posturing. I think it was them throwing up, being able to throw up their hands later and say, well, we tried. Yes, the Browns. We did our due diligence on this. I think it's, the stadium is crap.


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[Assistant] It's a really big pig and there's not enough lipstick in the world to fix it. And you certainly can't put a roof on an existing building that's never been done. That's a stupid idea that will never be done.


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[Assistant] We were talking earlier in the show about, we really hadn't talked about this before today. What do you do at tackle? Because now you basically have three starting tackles.


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[Assistant] If Jack's healthy, Jack and Jed, what do you do with Dewand? Our concern was if you put Dewand on the bench, he's going to be 400 pounds. Can you trust him to stay disciplined?


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[Assistant] You could go get a big on the buyout market possibly, and I don't have names because we don't know who these guys are going to be yet. You could find a back, I think a back up point guard is actually a position of need. Right. Because really, I haven't had one all year.


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[Assistant] We just talked about, uh, I wouldn't actually mind that very much. He's a point guard, right? Yea.


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[Assistant] Craig Porter Jr. is great as he's been. He's not going to play playoff minutes for you. And maybe none of these guys that we're talking about will. But if, really what you need is you need someone possibly for like end of the first quarter, start of the second quarter. Like four minute stretch.


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[Assistant] End of the first quarter, end of the second quarter. Kyle Lowry is perfect. He'd be fine for that. He'd be fine for that. Playing eight minutes a game? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I know, but I still put Milwaukee and Boston above Cavs. Certainly Boston, yeaah. And Milwaukee, I think, is going to be just fine, come the playoffs. I said earlier today, I thought, I think, I kind of view the Bucks.


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[Assistant] More important, 2 is huge. Yea. 2 gets you a play-in team. Right. Rather than...


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[Assistant] Right. The sixth seed. And home field, home court in the second round. Now, the one thing, the one wild card, I think we mentioned this the other day. Miami. Well, I was thinking I'd say Philly.


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[Assistant] And if you have to catch Philly in the first round, that would suck. That would be a bear of a matchup in the first round. Could they drop all the way to where the Cavs end up? Yea, the Cavs are only a game out of four.


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[Assistant] Philly could fall into the play-in. They've been terrible without Embiid this year. Yea, Philly could easily fall into the play-in. Yea. But if they have Embiid, I like their odds of getting out of the play-in.


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[Assistant] He's a great coach. Tibbs is a great coach. But he always wears out his welcome eventually, right? He grinds his guys into dust. He burns hot and fast. He'll be gone in a couple years. They're a big team. That's why they were such a


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[Assistant] Cause I still only took two. Two. I know. I know. You said he needed to shoot three, right? Oh, he took three.


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[Assistant] Right, he's only shot more than two I think twice this year. But I do think as they go in more, they're gonna start going up more too. Probably right. So this is the one I feel least comfortable about, but after


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[Assistant] When's the last time, when's the last time somebody, well I, I mean stuff.


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[Assistant] I don't know, McNuggets? For him, for him, a guy of his caliber, to shoot at 40%.


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[Assistant] For him to do it though, I think it's gonna be really hard to stay at that level. Maybe I'm wrong. I think I'm gonna flip-flop.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no. Nobody. I mean, their best five right now does not include him, but that doesn't matter. But it's better by the end of the year.


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[Assistant] He has six in his career by the way.


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[Assistant] Alec Berks had been there. Wasn't he originally there? He's a throw-in. He's a salary match. Bogdanovich is a good shooter.


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[Assistant] They're just, they're just trying to match Boston, size for size. The Knicks are good. They are good. They're a good team. It's, it's gonna be... When do we play them?


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[Assistant] I don't think they go back to New York. I think they're done. I think that's it. That's the last game.


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[Assistant] I don't understand. Cab's face is not worth what it used to be worth 10 years ago in the NBA. So I don't understand. Why wouldn't the Cavs have made a similar trade? Would that have made sense? Well, they don't have the money to match. Oh.


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[Assistant] Oh, we were totally in the same room together. Look at that! Small world.


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[Assistant] The benefit, the reason Stan Krenke went and built the whole thing himself is because nobody can tell you what to do. That's right. When you don't have public funds involved, you can do whatever you want. So there is a benefit to doing it yourself.


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[Assistant] So, get the hell out of here, go to Mexico. Oh, I agree. We could send Annex Houston. Screw Houston.


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[Assistant] And I don't understand why, like, this is the thing, like, to me, like, in sports. I don't understand why they try to act like...


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[Assistant] Defensive coordinators, offensive coordinators, just because you want to ring and you want to head coach the quarterback, it didn't count for you.


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[Assistant] I mean, it counts. I don't, I don't understand why. Although, you know, he has four rings or whatever. I'm like, bro, listen, them counts. Like, you can't discount the fact just because you was a coordinator. So, yeaah, like.


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[Assistant] Y'all been fleeced twice. Today, I'm gonna prove, and hopefully I do a good enough job of this as the totality of my argument comes to the table.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of teams, whether it is, is, is financial, whether it's game plan style, whether it's preparation, whether it's, it's understanding the moment the Kansas city chiefs continue it continually at every corner, figure out a way that they want to win no matter what.


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[Assistant] If you are in the Super Bowl, and it's the pinnacle of your career, and the fact is, you may never ever get back there again. Some people just take for granted you're gonna be somewhere.


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[Assistant] No, don't work that way. Ask Dan Marino how many times he was at the Super Bowl after he went his rookie year. It just goes to show you that once you get there, you gotta be prepared at all levels to be prepared to do all kinds of things. And I love what Chris Jones said. He said if they would have scored a touchdown, we was going for two.


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[Assistant] It just shows me the mind state of what the Kansas City Chiefs is doing on all different levels, on every level as an organization, is saying that they want to win at all costs. And these other teams come bubbling in, and the San Francisco 49ers, it's unacceptable.


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[Assistant] Unacceptable. How do you not know the rules? This is a game you, like, that's like being like, oh, you don't know how to go to break on time.


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[Assistant] Listen, you gotta bury these dudes. I was looking up, we was in the house and my dad was like, man, we looked at each other, I said, oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] Y'all, y'all doing a nice little job or whatever it is, but y'all gonna look back and y'all gonna say, we should have been up 27 nothing.


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[Assistant] We should have been up 21-3, we should have been up, you, you, you looked up, they dominated for most of the game, and you looked up and was down 13-10. I said, that's game. You gave Patrick Mahomes a rock back, you didn't capitalize, you got multiple fumbles.


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[Assistant] During that game, somebody asked me, I put it on Twitter, it looked like the Chiefs were shook.


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[Assistant] He made plays when he had a great defense and Chris Jones didn't play well. Um, but you know, that's what you to beat the chiefs. I want everybody to look around in the league.


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[Assistant] Whatever you're doing right now is not good enough. Whatever you're doing, saying that we gonna stay the course and whatever we did last year was good enough, it is not good enough to beat the Chiefs. Tear it down and figure something else out.


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[Assistant] of how you gotta go play the game against the Chiefs to win the game.


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[Assistant] And sometimes it infuriates me because, you know, y'all can look like y'all playing, but y'all going through the motions. Hey, y'all, y'all remember, uhm, Dark Knight Rises?


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[Assistant] Now, you remember when Batman was in that pit, right?


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[Assistant] I just Googled, I said, how does Batman get out that pit? Now he had been trying all that time with that rope around his waist, trying to jump up out of that pit. And then what he realized was Bruce is only able to escape.


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[Assistant] But as we sit here and analyze, there's third and fourths where you didn't go all out. Just another third and fourth where you could have won the game. Another third and fourth where you, instead of, instead of, you know, going after Pacheco on a dive, you would have said, listen, I gotta go tackle Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] You cannot go into these games and these Super Bowls with this training rope around trying to make a leap for your life. Sometimes you gotta take the leap without the rope. And what y'all don't understand is... That's a great analogy.


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[Assistant] First of all, it was too many 15-yard penalties. I didn't like, I didn't like they were sloppy with the penalty game. Second of all, I just felt that the offense weren't crisp, right?


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[Assistant] Like, it just looked like everything was sluggish. Uh, Patrick. Was that because of great defense or just because the offenses were sluggish? I think the offense was just sluggish. I've seen, I've seen better defensive plays, defensive like efforts where there's more sacks, there's more, more interceptions, there's more tackles for loss. There's, it just seemed like,


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[Assistant] This game was in slow motion a little bit, like in terms of the, the, the, the execution of it. I didn't even like the announcers. I was just like, I would have rather had Joe Buck and Troy Egman.


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[Assistant] I was just like, this is, this is not, even they was just joined it a little bit.


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[Assistant] They couldn't find a rhythm in that. So I was just sitting there like, okay, well, you know.


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[Assistant] I just didn't, I didn't know, I thought that the Kansas City Chiefs offense.


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[Assistant] That was, that was, that was decent. I like what you did right there.


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[Assistant] Now you can imagine and wish and hope Deshaun Watson is there, but right now he's not better than Patrick Mahone.


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[Assistant] Right now, Joe Burrows not better than Patrick Mahomes. Right now, Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson is not better than Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] The problem with people is they try to do this. They talk themselves into that their quarterback is on that level. They continuously talk themselves as if that their quarterback can go hand to hand with Patrick Mahomes, but don't realize that they also got the best head coach and play caller in the league as well.


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[Assistant] Now you have two things that you gotta overcome. The Cleveland Browns come out here with these rusty butter knives every year.


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[Assistant] And say, yeaah, know what we got? We got, uh, Maury Cooper. And we got, uh, uh, yeaah, Cedric Tillman. We always saying what we got. Right, right now.


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[Assistant] Quiet as cap. The Browns need to worry about how they gonna take care of C.J. Brown. And he's the underboss.


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[Assistant] You see, he's the underboss. He made you look crazy. And until you can get to a point where you are on the same actual line as talent. You don't have the same talent as the Ravens. You don't have the same talent offensively as the Bengals. You don't arguably have the same talent as the dog on chargers. And we know what the top of the food chain is.


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[Assistant] Operation Stockpile is not about just sitting back hoping Deshaun Watson gets to a point, right? You know what they did in World War II?


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[Assistant] They knew that the United States had a Navy. They knew the United States and the Allies had more manpower.


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[Assistant] But guess what they still did? They still built that atomic bomb on the backside.


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[Assistant] Cause they said, what if, what if the trenches break? What if, what if Hitler goes and goes out over and he does beat Stalin in the winter?


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[Assistant] And then we'll be talking about, you better have you something in your back pocket. And guess what? Even after they got rid of Hitler in World War II, guess what? Pearl Harbor still happened. And guess what they had in their back pocket? Operation Stockpile moves ahead. Fools seem ahead. That was cute. That was cute.


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[Assistant] I think, I think one, I think one of the things that we get, we get in, in, in too much context, test way is.


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[Assistant] Trying to figure out is he worth the money that he, that he's getting. So what we want to do is say, well, okay, your franchise quarterbacks make everybody better. So let's just, let's just stay right here and you make us better. We'll see if you are worth 230. But the problem is you going to have to be, this is, this is Mortal Kombat.


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[Assistant] You gotta beat three out of four to even see my home.


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[Assistant] We're just talking about what you need to do in order to just get to the bowl. So you telling me.


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[Assistant] You, you gotta see Josh Allen and we didn't see Josh Allen play ridiculous. We didn't see Patrick Moans play ridiculous. Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow was out of his mind. Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson. I didn't see Aaron Rodgers throw the ball through, through 10 people's bodies. Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert. And CJ Strauss just put that work on you. My thing is, if you.


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[Assistant] And he got two receivers that run like cheetahs and deers. And we sitting here still, three years into Deshaun Watson, still trying to champion.


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[Assistant] The guys of this world, the, the Bells, and the Schwartz, and the...


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[Assistant] David and Joku, and you just said that they had Kettle? No factor.


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[Assistant] Debo Samuel, no factor. IU had a couple catches and you had Crystal McCaffrey. And let me remind you, let me remind you, if five years ago you would have said that the San Francisco 49ers would have had Chase Young and Bosa, you'd have said, how the heck do somebody even get, we ain't got none of that. And we still trying to get where they at.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna take it from him. He said this. I didn't say it. He said it when he asked for it. He was on this podcast. He said, what's up T Higgins?


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[Assistant] He wasn't definitive like that. He said, if DeAndre come, I like what we got on our roster. They said it at a golf outing, I'll download it. I said, okay, well, he may not be that interested in DeAndre Hopkins, but it's early now. He said, T. Higgins.


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[Assistant] What he's saying to you is, I'm technically not that comfortable with the roster. And we may not got T Higgins, but I need a couple, I need another playmaker. Give me something else. Give me someone, it ain't gotta be T, but I need a little something else to get where I'm going.


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[Assistant] My hopes is, my hopes is Andrew Berry does what he did with me for the lineman. He understood that that's the place he needed to go. He did a good job up front. And he did a good job of doing that.


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[Assistant] Tonight we got, uh, uh, speaking of lions, we got lions legend Jerry Ball.


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[Assistant] Get em at the hotline. Hotline will be, I'll actually tweet that out. And we do have a Browns hotline where you can leave your questions and comments. Jerry was a big run stopper wasn't he? He was.


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[Assistant] Is that your home? Yeah, that's my, that's my house. I sold it. Like I sell out. So I like, I like put that on the wall. That don't come down. Is that wallpaper? Yeah.


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[Assistant] No, we're not giving them their just desertion. There's a couple of reasons. One is, you know,


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[Assistant] Whether we like it or not, we've been jaded. To me, we've had the best basketball player ever to play.


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[Assistant] Uh, in this city, and when you have the best basketball player ever to play basketball, uhm, it's like saying, if you go to Chicago and say, hey, the Bulls are in fifth place, uh, are we giving them enough credit?


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[Assistant] They ain't trying to give you no credit. Like they, they saw six championships. No, they're not going to give you no credit. They may, even when Derrick Rose was there, like they was good, but they were still not saying that they was nowhere near what the Bulls was. I think the same thing goes, goes into what we talk about here.


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[Assistant] We, we went to the finals four years in a row. We did win the championship. We did play the Golden State Warriors who probably had one of the greatest teams ever assembled. So it's kind of difficult.


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[Assistant] For me to be like, alright, let me look at Max Shrews and, uh, you know, some of the guys in Isaac and Coro.


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[Assistant] Uh, and be like, oh my goodness, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. Nah, the only way we're going to give them credit is if they establish something and become consistent in what they're doing, not just a flash in the pan. So if they could go this year,


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[Assistant] Ball out. Say, for instance, get to Eastern Conference Finals and lose in six, seven games. Now we, now they got some, some money in the bank. Now we know, okay, this is what this team is like. They play hard. Uh, they're going to be, they're not going to fold in the playoffs. It's just about making shots.


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[Assistant] Last year they played a specific style upright.


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[Assistant] Last year they was way less physical. They looked like they was way less, uhm, they, they, they was way less aggressive. And now they've made, they did some changes. They went and got some shooters, right? Those shooters have paid dividends. The guys that was playing weak last year.


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[Assistant] If they, you know, and I saw Boston play last night, Boston got, you know what I'm saying? A lot of guys, they got holiday, you got Pazingas. Uh, they still got Horford, obviously Brown and Tatum and White and all those guys. Like if they even get to a point where you, these games are the first place.


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[Assistant] That has to be, for a team that is young, that got embarrassed, doesn't that show you that they figured something out?


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[Assistant] Let's be honest man, we Cleveland fans or whatever the case may be, we ain't done enough living and done enough winning to be jaded. Like, I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] That's cool. We can be mad, but we can't be jaded. 17, 17 out of your last 18 games mean something. Like, you're on the right track. You're doing some things you get. And I've always said, I want to see you develop people.


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[Assistant] And guess what? JB is developing people. Sam Mero's been developed. Isaac O'Coro's gotten better. Jared Allen is playing better. Donovan Mitchell's having his best year of his life, it seems like. Now, I think the calves are over the whole overarching thing. Are they good? Are they not?


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[Assistant] I think now that it's to the place where now we can start talking about the minutia of, okay, what's the best way to play?


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[Assistant] So yeaah, so the poll got 27,000 views. Now they was on you. They was liking it at first.


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[Assistant] But as, as you know, as time goes on, you know that, so 59% of the people, uh, with this tweet. What poll are you talking about?


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[Assistant] Would you bring Darius Garland off the bench on a limited basis for three to four games to get his rhythm?


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[Assistant] And over 1200, uh, people responded to the poll. Now.


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[Assistant] When you go and look and you take a look at some of the numbers that we talk about.


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[Assistant] The numbers that accompany him are, are slightly scary a little bit. Now, Darius Garland obviously does not have his feet underneath him, right? He doesn't have exactly, uhm, his feet. Like he's, you know, what he's average. He's average at 18.8 right there. But if you go back and you look at the last, oh what?


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[Assistant] Since he came back, since he came back, uhm, he got 19 points his first night back.


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[Assistant] Three assists, uh, at Memphis, nine points, seven assists. You get San Antonio Spurs, four points, four assists.


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[Assistant] Uh, Sacramento Kings, 11 points, 5 assists. The Wizards, 13 points and 4 assists.


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[Assistant] Now, when you look at the salary rise, right, and we talk about it, hey, basketball players to me is the most sensitive people in all the world.


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[Assistant] Darius Garland, in terms of what he makes, is an elite guy. $34 million. Now mind you, that's a year.


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[Assistant] Guess who else makes that type of money? John Morant? He ain't coming off the bench. James Harden ain't coming off the bench.


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[Assistant] Jamal Murray, NBA champion, Brandon Ingram, Shea Gilders Alexander.


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[Assistant] Uh, Don, he, and this is the thing that hits you. He makes more than Donovan Mitchell. So.


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[Assistant] You like, not only would he not do it, his agent would be like, we got rid of Colin Sexton for this guy.


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[Assistant] It's not the worst thing in the world. That's what it comes down to. Are you seeing, are you seeing something McNuggets in his game? Um, that would be alarming or you just figure it's just a matter of time.


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[Assistant] So it's, it's weird, but... To, to, to kind of put a, to put a bow in it, is there anything that they could do to have either one of you excited going into the playoffs?


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[Assistant] I will be excited if here's the way I looked at it. I always assume...


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[Assistant] To me on paper, the Milwaukee Bucks.


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[Assistant] When, when you have Lopez, when you still, when you still got Middleton, you still got Giannis, and you, you got, uh, you know, uh, obviously, uh, Dane Dollar. I feel like they, they just got a better roster. You know what I'm saying? It's the highest end.


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[Assistant] But if you could tell me the Cavs is going to be in the second seed over them and almost win 60, if they win 60 games.


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[Assistant] Really quickly, the next few games, Sixers, Chicago, Orlando, at Philly, at Washington, those are winnable games. All of those are. Uhm, you got Dallas, uh, you know, Luca and Kyrie, but after- Where is that?


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[Assistant] That's at home. And then you got a game against the Knicks in New York. That's a national TV game. And then they got two days later, the Boston Celtics.


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[Assistant] And so, that's those two dope games, and then a couple other dudes down the stretch. They got Minnesota twice, who's number one. When's the Boston game? The fifth. Much fifth.


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[Assistant] You know, that tells me, that tells me the money is getting too good. It's a lot of money, it's a lot of cash being infused in college football. And, uh, it also shows me, uhm, that now it's arms race. We told you, now you're going to be, if you're UCLA, you gotta compete with USC.


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[Assistant] And nowadays with the one and duns and guys moving around, you gotta recruit year round.


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[Assistant] It is no, it is no, there is no, it is not a coincidence that Nick Saban was like, uh-uh, I ain't doing this no more. Oh, you're right. Because it don't matter if you get a top ten recruiting class back then.


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[Assistant] You get a top 10 recruiting class, you could just stoppile people and no one could go nowhere.


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[Assistant] Now you can, you can waste a budget, give him an NIL deal and he'll be on the next thing smoking in Tennessee. And you're like, Tennessee's trash. They're like, well, they gave me this amount of money and it is what it is. I think these, these coaches, these head coaches don't want the headache. They just want to go answer.


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[Assistant] And if they were smart, how they would do it, I asked Gene Smith the same thing. Listen, just, listen, either you get with it now,


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[Assistant] You get your congress together, you get your senators and your governors and you all sit around in Alabama or Ohio State or Florida and you say, listen, here's the going rate that we're willing to pay a college athlete per year.


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[Assistant] We're gonna give him 75. We'll give him $100,000. We'll put a cap to it.


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[Assistant] You have your bird rights. If you want to make a certain amount of money, you gotta stay put here, right? Like, hey, you were here, you can't get $300,000. You ain't been here that long enough. Now you can go wherever you want to.


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[Assistant] But the way to do it is standardize it so that now, when you go to a school, you don't po- you ain't even getting poached. It's just like, you know what you're gonna get paid.


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[Assistant] Ah, yes, I could go over down, down to Florida, but I could go down there and now I'm only making a hundred thousand. I'm not going, I might not even get an opportunity to play and I can stay up here and make more money and do what I need to do and just still get another sign and bonus money. See, there's always levels to it. There's ambition. There's people that was in math schools.


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[Assistant] That thought they wanted to go to the league. There's people that think they're better than where they were supposed to be at. Some people just want their education. Some people just want to go partying. Like, it's all kind of levels of people in your team.


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[Assistant] And regular guys get you $100,000 or whatever you're gonna give them just to set those pay scales. And if they were smart, they would do it and people would accept it because to be truthful, everybody ain't getting in IL deals.


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[Assistant] Y'all gonna be in trouble. Y'all gonna have people transferring every five minutes. And that's gonna be tough.


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[Assistant] We look at it, I'm pretty sure just like Jeff Bezos and all the billionaires are not paying no taxes anyway.


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[Assistant] Uh, they're not paying taxes. They're, they're, you know, you know, when you get to that level, you know, it's the trickle down theory. Okay. Well, let's, you know, we can give you tax breaks because you employ a lot of people and usually people that wealth tax bracket don't pay much. Here's my problem. I, and my thing is this.


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[Assistant] If, if say for instance, you know what I'm saying, I'll, I'll loan you 50 bucks, right?


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[Assistant] But then, you say, okay, I got you back, I loaned you $50. But then the next week when you get paid, you got George.


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[Assistant] Where you get them Jordans from? You can't get no Jordans before you pay me. He's like I got them for a good price. You just went and bought the Milwaukee Bucks.


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[Assistant] You can't buy the Milwaukee Bucks and then come to me and say, I ain't got no money. You just bought three hundred, four hundred million dollars of going rate for that. You could have said if you really wanted to upgrade, like, yeah, like, listen, you can't, you know, you can't do renovations to this house and then go get you a new mortgage at the same time.


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[Assistant] The bank looking at you like, mmm, you either choose one or the other. So my thing is, yeaah, I want a new stadium too, but the political nature of it is, if it's uh, if it's uh, you know, it's re-election time.


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[Assistant] Sometimes them constituents don't be signing off on that. They say, where else can this money be going?


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[Assistant] And it shouldn't be missed that even though he was one of the first player coaches, and as they traveled, Bill Russell couldn't even stay in a hotel with his team.


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[Assistant] So that, that, that is not missed upon me. And by the way, that this is just one generation, you know, we talk about a lot of things like, like, you know, segregation wasn't that long ago, like,


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[Assistant] They were still playing basketball back then. Jim Crow was alive and well. And he just goes to show you that, uh, we've come so far, but.


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[Assistant] There were some things that happened back then that you said, wow, I can't even believe that happened. But you gotta remind yourself, you gotta remind yourself that we have come far, but you also have to remind yourself that there's some things that we need to take care of.


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[Assistant] This dude just comes out, second half, he like 50 yards the first half. He comes out, sees 8 flowers, he throw the ball. Next thing you know, all of them are green. It's the worst feeling in the world. Till you see that red, it's like, mmmm. How loud did Rosebush do?


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[Assistant] You know, I'm gonna give you my grade first and I'll explain why. I think this is a C higher, but it has the potential to get to a B+.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the reason I like to hire is I like people that are motivated. And one of the best motivators are when you get let go.


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[Assistant] Especially mid-season. Yeah, mid-season, you know, that doesn't happen. When they let you go mid-season as a coach.


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[Assistant] That really means that you are, I'm not going to say cancer or anything like that, but you, we feel like you are holding us back so much that we need to cut date and move in a different direction and pivot, not seeing this thing through. So when you look at Dorsey and it gets let go, um,


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[Assistant] He probably feels that he was let go unjustly. He probably feels that he took a lot of L's for other people and he was a scapegoat, kinda like Van Pelt thinks he's a scapegoat. The problem is, now he gets to here to Cleveland, and now you have another guy, Deshaun Watson, we'll probably get to this as well, Deshaun Watson feels like


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[Assistant] He is, uh, under a lot of pressure and he is a guy that has a target on his back. And the most dangerous person, uh, in the world are our people.


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[Assistant] Who feel like they have access to grind in their backs against the wall.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think Kevin Stefanski to a certain extent feels like that because we gotta even come in here and hire another guy. We talking about he ain't got an extension. He don't have any of that. And a lot of people can sit here and say, oh, that's no big deal. No big deal. No one's, no one's mad. No one's upset.


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[Assistant] B.S. Y'all gotta keep it real. These are human beings. Let you go into, eh, watch this. Everybody that had this happen before, it's a Friday.


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[Assistant] Your boss calls you at 345 and says, hey, uhm,


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[Assistant] I want, could you get here a little earlier on Monday? I want to, um, I, I, we have a, we have to have a meeting one on one about something.


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[Assistant] You like, you gonna call me 345 on a Friday, let this boy linger all weekend, so I gotta think about what do you want? What the heck is going on? I didn't get written up, what did I do?


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[Assistant] So when you're a human being and you're sitting here and they're telling you we're making changes, they make changes not because you're good. They made a change because they feel you're not good enough. So here's my thing. I want all of them to be in a room feeling like it ain't good enough. I would want nothing more than them to come out and


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[Assistant] Dorsey says, listen, I'ma show you what I can really do. I was held back.