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[Assistant] I don't know, it's not about just moving the blood through your body. It's about, uh, uh, arterial plaque that forms when you eat animal products. It forms in your veins. It forms in all this stuff. And when you're vegan, you just don't get it. But when you eat animal products, you do. Even vegetarians will get some, but not as much.


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[Assistant] With every bite of that poor cow, then you're stopping blood from going maybe, maybe, to the head, to the penis, these kinds of things.


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[Assistant] What I often think is like, what would 15 year old Josh or 20 year old Josh want to hear? What does he need to hear to actually inspire him and uplift him? And the message is I want to send to 15 or 20 year old Josh.


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[Assistant] Or let's say, let's go with 20-year-old Josh, because I'll get in trouble for 15. So let's go to 20-year-old Josh. What would he need to hear? What would make his life better? Do he understand? And the message that I always want to say to him, to 20-year-old Josh, he's 20, to 20-year-old Josh is,


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[Assistant] It's going to happen. You're going to get your heart broken over and over and over again. And it takes you a long time to learn that the heart is a muscle like any other muscle and you work out and you know what happens with muscles. You want to break them down. You want to over lift them and you get them hurt so that they grow back stronger. The more heartbreak you go through in life, the stronger the heart becomes.


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[Assistant] That's just the way it is and it's beautiful. Wear it on your sleeve still, dude. Don't give it the fuck up. Don't put up those walls. I was, I was flying with an, on a plane not that long ago where somehow in the front of the plane, it was just me and this nice old lady. And before we got off the plane, I turned to her the same way you're turning to me and I said, Hey, could you give me some just quick


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[Assistant] Short, beautiful piece of life advice before we get off this plane together. Something that you, that I really should know that you want to pass on to me. And she said, hm.


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[Assistant] Be careful of walls, Josh. And I said, what do you mean? Every time someone hurts you, every time something happens, you're putting up another block in the wall. Next thing you know, sure, you're safe behind that wall, but you're alone and you're unhappy. Take the wall down, Josh.


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[Assistant] Thank you man, thank you very much. And now I'm lucky enough to be able to share that with all these people, this thing that she said to me on a plane. Wow.


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[Assistant] Can I ask you to tell me and everyone a story that you haven't actually shared before from 20 year old Adam? A good one too.


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[Assistant] So okay, so you're telling 20 year old Adam, A, don't sell out and B, really stay fucking true to yourself, man. Hold on to that passion and don't let ever the fucking let it go.


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[Assistant] And I agree with you a thousand percent. You and I are actually really much alike. When you're talking about the BMX thing, you sound like me, man. We sound the fucking same. I'm so fucking passionate about this shit. You're so fucking passionate about BMX and you, the more you hold onto it. So I think the advice we both have for 20 year old, whatever is out there is don't let go of the fucking passion, man. Ride it, ride it till the fucking end. It doesn't have to end. You don't have to go off and become a fucking accountant.


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[Assistant] You don't, unless that's your passion. Maybe you fucking love numbers that much and that's okay.


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[Assistant] Don't let go. If you hold on to that fucking dream when you were 20 and really just find a way to monetize it, there's always a way you find to make money on it. You look at it, okay, I like doing this. Whatever it is, X. Is there a way I can make money doing that? Well yeah, there's always a way. And then do it. Take the risk. Maybe it don't work.


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[Assistant] That's fucking awesome. Cause I think that's what I think.


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[Assistant] That's a big responsibility that you and I have, is to...


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[Assistant] Oh, okay, they probably solved that problem already. What, what did they do? And then you, oh, and then we're supposed to pass this knowledge down. We're supposed to tell 20 year old, Hey man, wait, you need to know this, this, this and this. Wait, there's a couple more things too.


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[Assistant] Pass the info on, it gets easier for the next generation, and we all get elevated.


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[Assistant] See, yeaah, I just look at it as, okay, how, how, what,


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[Assistant] What more can we do? What more can we say? Of course we have to cut off the podcast, of course. But it's...


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[Assistant] What more knowledge do we impart upon them? What else do we say? My thing is always to remind them that it gets better.


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[Assistant] And you're telling, and you are right, you should be, I should be telling them also, stay the fuck with your passions, man, hold on to that stuff till the end, don't let it go.


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[Assistant] And we all, we're all guilty of it. So am I. We all do it to our, it's just a level of what you do it at. You know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah. You have to sell that a little bit. You just got to figure out the best options. Just enough.


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[Assistant] Who knows what, but it'll be dumb, it'll be stupid. I will fuck up, I guarantee it. And then I'll forgive myself for it when it happens. It's part of the process. It is part of the process. Okay, now, uhm, adding on to what you said. Alright, cool. So I open my little store in 93, right? Get shut down in 96, 97, that kind of thing. Start it all over again.


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[Assistant] Rebuild again and get even higher and higher and higher level. And now I'm this fucking 47 year old dude who's still fucking rocking. I'm having so much fucking fun. I have more fun now than I had when I was 20 years old. I have more fun now than I had when I was 30 years old and I'm still going.


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[Assistant] So if 20 year old can realize that, hey man, you're actually not in your peak now, bro. It keeps going up. Sure. Eventually it stops. Fine. You get too old, you can't rock, you can't do whatever. You find ways to keep it going. You find ways to keep enjoying yourself. Life is fucking long and it can be beautiful to my certain, I've lost some friends in the past few years. What happens to nineties rockers? Some of them, they get very depressed at a certain point when they can't.


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[Assistant] Do what they used to do in the same way, when their pickup line used to be


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[Assistant] It doesn't work anymore, man. Now you gotta go talk to her if you want to meet her and that's okay. Just adjust, go with the flow. It'll be all right. No, you get too depressed remembering what you used to have and what you were used to be. And some of it ends in a very bad way that makes me very upset, which we won't talk about. We only want to be positive.


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[Assistant] But to 20 year old, it's, dude, it gets better. It really does get better, I swear to you. Even if you get incarcerated, it's okay, eventually you get out. Unless you did something really fucked up or got caught, you didn't have to do it. Unless you get charged with doing something really fucked up, then yeah, maybe you won't get out for a long time and that fucking sucks.


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[Assistant] You're right. I use the fistula example. Do you know what fistula is?


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[Assistant] Alright, well, the amount of time I spent in Africa, you get to learn these horrific things. Vistula is when, uhm, a girl is wet off way too young, let's say 12 years old, and she has intercourse too young.


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[Assistant] And it's, uh, and she'll even get pregnant, of course. And then when the baby comes out, it separates the skin between...


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[Assistant] The bum hole and the vagina. It separates that skin in there and therefore it gets very infected in there. You get a disease called fistula. And it's horrific. It's very difficult for us to cure with surgery. Very difficult and expensive. And we work on it like everything else.


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[Assistant] So do you have fistula? Thank god no. You're not one of the people that is dying that I, that I had to take off of a, uh, you passed away on this bed in Addis Ababa Ethiopia and I take you off and put you on a gurney so someone else can go on that bed and we couldn't even wash the sheets before I put you on that bed so you just have to die. That didn't happen to you. You're not that guy.


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[Assistant] You're not the ones I've seen. You're so much better off. It's gonna be okay.


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[Assistant] Then you change, then you come out, like, that's real. You'll find a way to live with it, to carry it like a wound, like any, or a scar, like anything else, and you move on, but it's still there, and a constant reminder of, wait, I saw that, that really was real, that really happened, I saw that. I saw that little child who was mostly burned hugging my leg because I was white, he thought I was a doctor, and he's asking me when he can go home.


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[Assistant] And I was just there and lied to him through my translator, you'll go home in two weeks, just he'll stop hugging me and go to his bed.


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[Assistant] It was, you see the stuff and you deal with it, you do whatever you can and you move forward. And sure, you allow it to change you. It was horrific at the time. All these things are horrific at the time, but they make you a better person. They make you understand humanity more. They make you, if you're lucky enough to have some fucking resources or to make some money later on in life, then you go back and you fucking fix that shit. You make a change.


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[Assistant] That's the way it always was, wasn't it? We used to have these fucking rock concerts, Live Aid, Band Aid, all that kind of shit that went on, Farm Aid, and the rockers would go back and they would fucking help people to fuck out. I don't know what happened to all that shit, man, you know? But I want to bring that stuff back.


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[Assistant] That kind of mentality of you make a success out of yourself, and then you give the fuck back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the most important part, because it isn't about showing off about what you did, it's about getting other people to do it also. It's like, come on, let's do this, let's do this, let's do this. What if it was something where you did a podcast where you're doing a project?


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[Assistant] What if we open one right here, right in the middle of Skid Row? Dead set middle of that shit. Cause I used to have a store right there. Yeah. So I was like, why don't we do that? Make everyone come to us here. You want to come see our store? You want to come, you want to come shop? Guess where you're coming, man. You're coming right here. And oh yeah, by the way, it's a charity enterprise. Right. Where all the profits go to these people right outside that door.


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[Assistant] But I don't know if that would really make the change that we want to make. The change we want, that I want to make is that when you walk past that dude on the street, that you really feel him, that you accept him and you truly see him and he's really there and you realize that he's the same as you.


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[Assistant] I can't do a fire hose on my own, but if we can do a podcast that changes the world, a podcast that helps the world, a podcast that saves the world, cause that's really what we're really talking about here, right?


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[Assistant] We're not just trying to save that person. We're not just trying to save that group. We're trying to make a big global change. We're trying to get people to actually give a shit about each other more and not just like giving back, but actually just give, help a little more, right? How do we do that with a podcast? Well, it could be a podcast more about empathy.


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[Assistant] Some fucking empathetic stories from people you wouldn't expect to get empathetic stories from, you know what I mean? Like really?


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[Assistant] I get Chief Keef on here to tell you about an empathetic story with Chief Keef, a real one. You get that kind of thing where people realize like, oh shit, there's more to all this hip hop culture. I say, what about that? What if we add to hip hop culture? What if we bring empathy into hip hop?


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[Assistant] We can't bring hip-hop to empathy when we do it the other way. We do a podcast where the whole thing is...


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[Assistant] It's more of a real conversation, not about anything, but about times when you actually made a change. You did something good for someone else, or someone did something really good for you. And we only share those aspects.


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[Assistant] That'd be fucking inspirational to anyone ever heard it, I think. That's just one idea, by the way. If you and I sit down and we smoke this giant fucking cone here at the end of the session. This is the plan. At the end of the session, we're probably going to have a lot more ideas and maybe, just maybe a beautiful plant somewhere is going to help you and I come up with an idea that helped change the world in a positive way.


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[Assistant] I wanna do that. But how do we change the world through podcasts? That's just one idea. And the cool thing about ideas is this one idea, and anyone who listened to this, they're probably gonna write in with a thousand more, man.


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[Assistant] Give it to them. If we can't figure it out, let them figure it out for us. They're smarter than me. That's for sure. And they're younger and they're fucking going to get it and they're going to figure it out how we actually can communicate with them in a way that uplifts them.


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[Assistant] Our real company brand one is Raw Life 247. Insta is probably the best way. We've got websites, all that stuff, rawauthentic.com, blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada. You know, you can't shop there. You can buy some stuff for the foundation and help give back. That's great. Ideally, if you want something, go visit your local smoke shop, dude.


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[Assistant] Anyone who's a small business owner, as Adam can tell you, you got people coming in on you with guns, even if it's not the feds, it's going to be someone else. Someone came in on you recently, man. Give me all your rolling papers.


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[Assistant] So it's a risk being a store. You're putting yourself right out there into the public and you deserve to be rewarded for it by having customers come in and get good products and you have the chance to talk to them about it and show them what's cool about it. You buy a fucking bicycle on Amazon.


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[Assistant] Reading some reviews, that's cool. It's a lot different than the guy comes in and you realize real fast that his build, his particular build is not right for that bike. Or the way he rides, the way he plants that foot is different. No Amazon in the world is going to see that foot go down, but you can.


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[Assistant] But it's also so important for that dude to come in and talk to you about that tire for real. Exactly. The way, where are you riding? What street are you on, man? You're local. You know the streets here. You know where the dude's from. You don't be like, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's not the right setup for you. I got to change it.


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[Assistant] No different than me making bongs in my head shop in 93 is you making bicycles in your store in 2019. It's the interaction and it's the customization, it's the genuine connection with the person that walks in the door to make it where you're actually building him to the extent realistically possible, the best bicycle in the world for him.


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[Assistant] Showing how to use that stick. Yeah, we pull this out before we smoke it. Right before we light it, we pull this pin out so there's a nice hole that goes down the center. Makes for better airflow and better burn in these giant ones.


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[Assistant] This president came to this town with a mindset after the election he was going to shake things up. He was going to move at a much more rapid pace and shake the government up.


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[Assistant] The President's first and most important responsibility to the American people is to keep the homeland safe.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and so I think that that's what the president was shooting for there, is to, is to protect the homeland.


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[Assistant] This is my happy place. And to have this place just 40 minutes away from my home.


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[Assistant] There are two ways you can be rich. Money, and that is not really being rich in my world. No. And then this. This is being rich for real.


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[Assistant] Experiences, a nature, adventures.


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[Assistant] I would say it was more rough than I thought it would be.


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[Assistant] Since I've been longing to live here for a while, I've been looking at forecasts when I was still living in Stockholm.


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[Assistant] And then it seemed to me like it was very cold for maybe a week and then it was a bit warmer again. And then it was cold and then warm. But now this cold came and it never went away.


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[Assistant] Late yesterday I cancelled a carefully planned operation.


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[Assistant] Two of our American aircraft collided on the ground.


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[Assistant] History is seasonal and winter is coming. The risk of catastrophe will be very high.


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[Assistant] The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically, or succumb to authoritarian rule.


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[Assistant] Sessions. Immigration bill will hammer Americans. Sessions comes out swinging against secretive House immigration push.


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[Assistant] Right Bart, doing great work getting truth out about immigration.


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[Assistant] We have such a packed show to get to, but we have some breaking news this morning we have to touch on real real quick. It came out less than an hour ago, but Bronnie James


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[Assistant] Had to go, or had to be rushed to the ICU yesterday after suffering a cardiac arrest in USC's practice facility that happened around 926 in the morning, according to reports. And since then, he has been released from the ICU. So it seems like Bronnie James.


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[Assistant] It's doing better, but guys, this kid's 18 years old, one of the top high school athletes in the entire country, regardless of sport, and to see this happen, or to hear that it happened,


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[Assistant] Wealth can't buy health. It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter how much money you have.


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[Assistant] This kind of stuff can happen to anybody and that's what makes it so terrifying on certain levels and obviously we're hoping for a speedy recovery for Bronny James and from all reports it does seem like he's on the right track to getting back.


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[Assistant] To being healthy and, and that's what we're hoping for because he does have a bright basketball future head, but take basketball out of anything else. He's just a bright future head. He seems like he's a pretty good kid with a good head on his shoulders and has been brought up the right way. So, uh, Bronnie, we're praying for you here from UCSS and we hope it all pans out well. Earl, what's up?


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[Assistant] Yeah, so we were thinking after the news of Jim Brown's passing earlier, what, what could we do as a show to kind of honor Jim Brown as we head into this 2023 season and Jim Brown, we all know war number 32. So we figured as a production team.


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[Assistant] We would count down and rank the 32 most important people in the Browns facility.


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[Assistant] And we came up with our ranking. So the 32nd most important player in our opinion for the upcoming season for the Browns is Cedric Tillman. I'll give you why we think so. We're curious on your thoughts. We'll keep it quick. Then we'll move on. But we made these rankings before we found out the Marquise Goodwin news.


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[Assistant] The Amari Cooper tweak. The Anthony Schwartz news. So maybe in hindsight he should have been a little higher. But the depth of the receiver room is getting thinner and thinner, even if Cooper's injury is a minor tweak right now. We expect him to be back.


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[Assistant] And if Godwin's not there, if Schwartz isn't there, if Joaquin Grant isn't who we think he was before the Achilles tear,


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[Assistant] Last thing we'll move on, and this is why I love G, he just said if we get four from Tellman and four from David Bell, we are back into Sean Watson's throne for 68 touchdowns. Oh 70. 70.


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[Assistant] He's not necessarily a slack guy, he's not an outside guy, he's a shifty guy. You don't have to be big to be shifty, he can be super effective without being big. But I didn't realize that he was...


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[Assistant] So that is Cedric Tillman. He is number 32 in our 32 for 32 series. We will reveal number 31 tomorrow and continue to lead up to the Browns first game, week one against Cincinnati. What's up Earl?


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[Assistant] Two things to keep in mind, the salary cap goes up 10% every year. So 30.4 million or whatever the, it's more than 30, 60 million or whatever. Looks like an unsurmountable number in today's cap. When that kicks in next year,


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[Assistant] 60 million is going to be a much smaller percentage of the cap. However, that's effing absurd.


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[Assistant] That is a guy who is, in my opinion, not capable of making a first team all-in-BA team. I don't think he'll ever be a top.


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[Assistant] Frankly, three, four, five best forward in the league. Now he made second team all NBA this year, but that's because Kevin Durant didn't play enough games. LeBron didn't play enough games. Guys rested. He's not top five at his position.


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[Assistant] How are you gonna pay a guy $300 million if he's not in the top 5 in his own position? I get you have to, the Celtics don't have a choice. This is how you retain your core.


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[Assistant] So Tatum is eligible for a super max next year. So he's gonna get 310. He's gonna get more than the brown, which is why the issue now for the Celtics is you're paying two guys.


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[Assistant] Tatum at 62, 63-ish. And you have, uh, Porzingis making 20-something. And your salary cast, what, 150-something next year?


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[Assistant] Well, it's interesting you mentioned that because yesterday Tim Von Temps on a podcast, The Hoop Collective with Brian Windhorst was kind of asked about Donovan Mitchell and do we want to play the clip from said podcast of Tim Von Temps speculating on the future of the cap superstar shooting guard?


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[Assistant] Jason, those are your guys. I know you know Wendy very well. You told us before that you've used Tim Bontemps' bathroom before, so, you're very familiar with Tim?


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[Assistant] So you were the first one out of anyone, not just here, but.


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[Assistant] Donovan Mitchell may not be interested in staying here long term, so when you hear Wintorse and Bontemps talk about that, does anything they said surprise you?


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[Assistant] But in a thank you. No one is looking at Toronto like they made a mistake. Right. Trading DeMar DeRozan for Kawhi Leonard. And we have to, as a collective society.


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[Assistant] There is no loyalty in sports. Stop pretending to believe that there's any loyalty from player to team or team to player. Look at what's happening in Portland right now.


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[Assistant] Damon has been in Portland for 11 years. He's given everything to that franchise. His heart and soul did through a ton of ups and downs, more downs than ups. They went to the Western Conference finals once. He just resigned his second two year max extension.


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[Assistant] Then three months later, he's like, Hey, actually, I don't, I don't want to be here. I want to go to Miami. Not like, Hey, this just didn't work. No, I want to go to this one specific team that doesn't have the requisite assets to actually acquire me, but I don't really care. You'd do right by me because that's what I want. Stop pretending and lying to yourself that just because a player says he loves a certain city or says he's happy to be here, that he's actually happy to be there.


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[Assistant] For any number of circumstances. Now back to the Cavs and Mitchell in particular. All you can do.


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[Assistant] As a general manager and a team, if you don't have a guy like LeBron, and the Cavs don't have a guy like LeBron, I'm just using an example, it could be any, it could be a Giannis, it could be a Jokic, if you want to be in the conversation.


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[Assistant] Do you have a roster that on the opening night of the season, you are in the conversation to be part of that championship?


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[Assistant] Conversation, you want to be in line to get into that championship club. And I look at this Cavs roster, and this is absolutely a roster with Donovan Mitchell, with the addition of Struth, Niang, the other guys. They're the only team in the league with four All-Stars under the age of 26. The only team in the league. They're in that championship conversation. To Tim's point, or against Tim's point.


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[Assistant] There's a 0.0% chance you trade your best player when you are in that conversation, unless the team's willing to give you


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[Assistant] It's not financially viable and you're giving up too many assets that you need to build out the back end of your roster. So the hell no. I'm not trading Donovan Mitchell right now.


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[Assistant] And I don't think the difference in training now versus next summer, if that's what it comes to,


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[Assistant] Is that drastically difference in the, in the gauge of what you're getting back? Is it exactly the same? No, you probably get a little more now. Or you definitely get a little more now.


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[Assistant] But I don't think we're looking at a 50% drop off in the return on investment for what you get for Donald Mitchell trading him tomorrow as opposed to next summer.


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[Assistant] But to the, the return that you got for a Kevin Durant or for a Donovan Mitchell in the first place.


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[Assistant] Jaylen Brown's not going to be in Boston for 5. Probably not. Chances are more than a 50% chance he does not play his 5 year extension in Boston.


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[Assistant] My only counter to that though is, now with the second tax apron, you can only have so many of these guys on your roster, and these second and late round picks, if you're above that second, you can't sign buyout guys, you can't use the full mid level exception, so to bring in multiple guys making that much money.


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[Assistant] I think it'd be so hard. So the return on investment, I say return on investment, return you're getting in a trade.


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[Assistant] Two young guys and five or six pigs. I just think all the returns are going to be diminished to fit into that second apron kind of threshold.


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[Assistant] When you look at the Eastern Conference as a whole, I think you look at Milwaukee and Boston as the two top teams, right?


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[Assistant] You can make an argument, and I'll do it right now if we want, but I think the Cats are the third best team on paper heading into this season in the East.


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[Assistant] And Jaylen Brown co-exists, now that Brown is the highest paid player in the NBA.


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[Assistant] Who's their point guard? How are they going to replace Marcus Smart? Is poor Zingus better? Like those two teams that we look at ahead of the Cavs, I actually think have more question marks entering the season than Cleveland does. Just a little more proven. So the Cavs are right in that threshold to be a top tier contender in the Eastern Conference. And when you are in that situation,


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[Assistant] A few things have to just break your way to make a deep playoff run and if that's happened to what Jason said earlier, there's no reason Donovan Mitchell is gonna be banging on Kobe off his door saying I need out.


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[Assistant] You only, you only bang and say I need out when the situation is not good. And I'm not saying he doesn't mean he won't ask or that those discussions in that situation may not unfold that way.


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[Assistant] But there's also an alternate universe, and a realistic chance, I say alternate, but...


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[Assistant] I think a better than 50% chance to catch them in the Eastern Conference Finals this year, and they're going to have to have a conversation with Donovan saying, hey,


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[Assistant] We do what we can do to make you happy. If you don't want to be here, that's up to you. We can't make you stay. We'll help you find a, facilitate some sort of trade.


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[Assistant] But there's only so much the Cavs can do to get him to stay, and I think they've done all the right moves to set themselves up to be in that position.


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[Assistant] We went down to, uh, Columbus. We mic'd up Tyvis for a softball event. Oh yeaah. Let's just say.


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[Assistant] We're unveiling something new tomorrow that y'all have never seen before. There are video effects. There's a little black and white. There's some dramatic music. And it might be the dumbest shit I've ever done.


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[Assistant] I also promise it's gonna make you laugh. And you'll see director Steve in a way you've never seen director Steve.


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[Assistant] That answer, I don't disagree with anything you said, and it just...


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[Assistant] Rookies, so they didn't expect to have big seasons coming through time after time after time again. Every break in extra innings. The record of 1-1 games was unbelievable.


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[Assistant] And then this year it's been the complete opposite. It's like they used all their good luck points last season. There's literally nothing to wring out of the good luck paper towel left because guys are getting hurt, guys aren't hitting, the guys you expected to be there who have been durable throughout their careers are now getting hit.


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[Assistant] It just seems like nothing can go right, and that's the most frustrating part because there's still...


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[Assistant] Even with the twins playing better and the guardians being, I know they lost last night, but.


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[Assistant] They're not out of it yet. Like they're still very much in the thick of a playoff race, but there's no real way to improve this team. And there's no real way to sell it because you're, you have nothing to sell it. They're in it. They're stuck in limbo and being limbo, being in limbo is the worst thing you can be in sports. Either be good or bad. Being just average.


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[Assistant] Hey, you have to rely on the young guys more than ever. And I know that these are the future of the organization, at least the next five, six years, so they're not going to completely throw their arms out, but they kind of have to. They don't have a ton of other options. Do you know Tanner Bobby's second on this team in innings pitch this year? That's crazy. And Logan Allen's third. Too good.


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[Assistant] Allen has bounced back and forth, but those are two guys who didn't start the season on the Major League, er, in the Major League rotation. Second and third. Savalli's fifth. Savalli's missed the time.


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[Assistant] Like tomorrow, the pitcher they hope he can be in two years. You have to hope Tanner Bybee tomorrow is the pitcher they hope he can be in two years. Logan Allen and all three of those guys, by the way, it's been pretty damn good. They all have sub four ERAs, including Savale if you want to add who has a sub three ERA. Those guys have to sustain that level of success, which.


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[Assistant] For the top three at least, we've never seen before because it's their first season of the majors. But to me, what has to happen is, and it's, I would not bet on this happening, but it's the bats have to wake up.


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[Assistant] You obviously don't have the horses in the rotation right now. To sustain a playoff push, it comes down to this offense. And can guys, like Kwon, like Jimenez, like Josh Bell.


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[Assistant] Find that offensive spark that we had hoped they'd have from the get-go that they haven't had thus far.


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[Assistant] Maybe part of the reason why this season's been so frustrating to the viewer, to the fan, to us, is for the last 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 years since Chris Antonetti and Mike Chernoff kinda took over the baseball decision making process. I don't wanna say they've been flawless.


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[Assistant] They've had so many more correct decisions than incorrect decisions. And this year, for whatever reason, maybe like I said, I used the good luck.


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[Assistant] Everything they've done right in the past, it's gone contrary to that this year. There's a Nino signing.


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[Assistant] Putting your trust in, in Bieber and Mackenzie to stay healthy, which I don't fault them for. It just, it hasn't worked. Letting go of Benson, letting go of Nolan Jones for other guys who haven't produced yet. They have built up such a cache of


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[Assistant] Good karma and correct decisions that now this year when it's


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[Assistant] I don't want to say crumble, that's not the right way to phrase it, but that it's all not gone exactly how they thought it would for the first time in a decade. It's like hard to...


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[Assistant] Except that. Because for the last 10 years, they've been so good at making the right decisions, and now...


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[Assistant] Obviously one year's not gonna complete, throw them off, and I'll see you in one sec, girl. But now that it's not working, it's like, why not?


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[Assistant] They're like, Earl, when Earl sends a rundown, you expect it to be flawless. One day, he sends out a rundown with a topic, you're like, eh, I don't love that. You're like, Earl, what the hell, man, so, what's up?


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[Assistant] I think you're right that we all like the moves of Zenino and Bell in the offseason. Like we all thought that was the right move. I'm calling them a mistake now, especially the Zenino one. They DFA'd him.


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[Assistant] They identified a need, he just wasn't the right fit. So I think we can't call that a mistake. Bell, he can turn it around, but like, as of today,


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[Assistant] Pretty confidently that Zenino was a mistake. They could have used that money elsewhere, even if the idea was right. And to some of the guys that they've entrusted this year to be key contributors, like in areas.


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[Assistant] You don't have to be Bull and have 17 different fantasy baseball rosters and know every single player in the league to see that some guys aren't performing at a level that they should be to be an everyday star.


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[Assistant] If the guardians were where they were today in any other division of baseball.


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[Assistant] They would have already done that. But the issue is they're four games out of first place. The Twins have been as inconsistent as the Guardians. They've had a little better luck in 1-1 games.


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[Assistant] But essentially, they're four games back, they're one good weekend away from being half a game out of first place.


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[Assistant] And you may not know this, you may know, the guy they drafted in the first round last year, Chase DeLotter, out of James Madison, he's been killing it with Lake County. I know Lake County's a far away from the majors, but is that a guy, if he continues to swing a hot bat, we could see in the majors next year, is he still too far away?


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[Assistant] He's hitting like 389 in 15 games now with a couple homers, and he looks like, he's a first round pick, so obviously high, high expectations, but he looks like a guy who will eventually swing a major league.


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[Assistant] Press the pronunciation. Press conference. You nailed that to a T, even with a little emphasis on the second word. I appreciate that.


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[Assistant] We set that up Earl, but it sounds like we have our guest, which means Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker football podcast. You can check him out on social media at Ross Tucker. NFL is now joining us here. He's calling games for CBS here. Ross, how you doing, man? Thanks for joining us here on the ultimate Cleveland sports show.


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[Assistant] Before we hop into our topics today, Ross, I did want to ask you about something I was told is literally the best present ever. And that's my front page story.com. Give us a little background on, uh, how we can hook up or good friends with like, like you said,


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[Assistant] Ross, we'll get into the Browns and the rest of the NFL in a sec, but I do have a question. I'm a Jersey guy and I know you played college football at Princeton. You started at defensive line and then.


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[Assistant] As a sophomore transition to offensive lineman that ended up playing in the NFL as an offensive lineman. A, why Princeton?


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[Assistant] And then B, why, how'd you end up going from a defensive lineman to an offensive lineman and not just that but


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[Assistant] I love that. I honestly, I looked up a lot. I couldn't figure out why you made that change. That's even better than I could have imagined anywhere. So thank you. What is Scrapple? You don't want to know. You don't want to know.


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[Assistant] Ross, I know you played offensive line at the highest level. The Browns left tackle. Jed Wills, they picked up his fifth year option.


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[Assistant] Aren't the highest on him. Some people think he's just okay and some people think that the ceiling for him is still there. Where do you fall in the Jed Wills discussion and can he be the Browns left tackle of the future that they need him to be considering how much they're paying to Shawn Watson?


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[Assistant] And that is Ross Tucker, former NFL offensive lineman, former eater of Scrapple to put on 30 pounds to transition from the D-line. Oh wait, our producer Earl has one question. Sorry, Ross.


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[Assistant] Thanks again, Ross. During those joint practice, if you ever want to come back, open invite, you are more than welcome. Love talking to you and check him out at Ross Tucker NFL and check him out on the Ross Tucker football podcast. Ross, thanks again.


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[Assistant] So it's more like, Philly, western Pennsylvania-ish. Have you ever had a pork roll in Jersey?


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[Assistant] We disagree on this, at least in some premise, but I want Jason to start, cause Jason and Earl...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think if we're gonna rank these, at least in my opinion, if you're gonna rank these in terms of options, to me, dead lasts.


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[Assistant] Not even close. Massive gap between two and three is renovating what they currently have.


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[Assistant] To me that's not even an option. I don't care what they say that's not an option. To me it does not make sense to have to close down a facility, play somewhere else for a year to make upgrades to something that's not structurally tack in sound and top notch to begin with.


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[Assistant] I'm not a Clevelander through and through. I moved here last year. You guys all know that. I've lived downtown since I've been here. To me, there's something special about having the creme de la creme.


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[Assistant] And I look at, and I'll use Dallas as an example, and I fully understand that Jerry World's not in Dallas, it's in Arlington. It's half an hour outside of the city. They have built an entire mini-city around the stadium. These new stadiums...


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[Assistant] Call them what you want. They're all, you know what measuring contest for the owners. It's how much money can you put in and why is mine better than yours.


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[Assistant] Look at the new one, Buffalo's proposal. Look at what Minnesota just built. Vegas. Jerry Vegas. Jerry's world was 10 years ago. Opened in 2011. That's crazy. 12 years ago. Think how far we've come since then. And that was the Taj Mahal of athletic stadiums when it opened less than 15 years ago. Jimmy has them as endless pockets. I don't know what you have to pay to buy out the airport, but if you could build the Cleveland version of Jerry's world,


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[Assistant] Build up storefronts, restaurants, hotels, make that lakefront property.


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[Assistant] Into a must-be destination on top of having the premier football stadium in football. I think that would just elevate Cleveland as a city. From where I already think it's awesome.


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[Assistant] To a must go destination for not just football fans, but just people in general who want a secondary observation, secondary place to go. What's up, bro?


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[Assistant] On a Sunday, for example, and I know the season would have to all kind of come together, but you could have a Guardians game, a Cavs game, and a Browns game going on, and you could have over a hundred, close to two hundred thousand fans.


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[Assistant] Can I start? Go ahead. I do not believe any of the words that came out of Jimmy Haslund's mouth when it came to that particular answer yesterday. Now, two things with all these. Sometimes they have to say the right thing.


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[Assistant] If he had said, yeah, jobs are on the line, and if we don't make the playoffs everyone's fired, there's already a tremendous amount of pressure on the Browns this year. We've all talked about it.


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[Assistant] Can you imagine the added level of intensity and scrutiny and pressure that came into every decision Kevin Stefanski, Jim Swartz, Bubba Ventrone, Deshaun Watson, et cetera would make from the day, from the minute he said that to whenever the end of the season came, it would be insurmountable in my opinion and unfair of


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[Assistant] Jimmy Haslip to put that on Stefanski before the year. So no, I don't believe him at all. I do think it's a make or break year. It's now or never for this focused staff. As Ross Tucker alluded to, Watson was still three years left on his contract. He'd have time to go and pick a different coach to try and maximize.


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[Assistant] The return on the Watson investment, but yeah, I didn't believe, I believed some of the stuff he did say on other topics on that particular question when he said, it's not really a now or never. It's not a make or break. I didn't buy it for one second, especially when he followed it up with saying, this is probably the best roster I've ever put together in Cleveland. You know, those two can't be opposite of each other. If it's the best roster, then it is a make or break year for coaching staff and a lot of the players in this team.


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[Assistant] Andrew Berry did his job. Yep. Hiring the right coaches, bringing the right free agents, making the right trades. We hope the draft picks hit. But he did the right job and a phenomenal job in my opinion of assembling a roster that could be in the championship conversation. Those are the ingredients. Kevin Stephanski is the cook. Jason, you don't cook very often, do you?


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[Assistant] Can Kevin Stefanski make these pieces, make these ingredients work cohesively? And that's why I can see a situation where if the season doesn't go as planned.


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[Assistant] You look at the track record of a lot of guys in the NFL that are successful today. Belichick is the prime example.


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[Assistant] Something clicks for whatever reason and we're looking back like, why didn't it work here? And those questions, there's never a concrete answer to why it didn't work.


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[Assistant] Can I give you a basketball example of that that's almost dead on spot similar to the Sean Lawson situation here? So my sophomore year going to my junior year, we got this transfer. I played Emerson College D3. It's not the NFL I get, it's a different sport. Came in mid-season, name was John Goldberg, 6'4", small forward.


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[Assistant] Do everything our coaches told us when he came in. He's gonna be the best one on the team next year. He should be a D1 bat, he should not be here. I don't know how we got him to come. If he wants to come here, he can't say to sit out.


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[Assistant] We still have never actually played with this guy. We've practiced with him, but we've never been on the court in a battle with him.


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[Assistant] And he's trying to give us these rah rah speeches, and it's, he's a nice guy, like nothing wrong with Jesus, I still talk to him all the time, but, we don't want him bought in yet. And in the first scrimmage, and it's a scrimmage,


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[Assistant] Tie game, basically set up situations, and the way we did the scrimmage was controlled. So we had one offensive possession, tie game, 20 seconds left, one defense of both teams.


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[Assistant] From there. You just need to, and with Watson, he was never gonna be the bonafide certified leader last year with everything else going on, only playing six games. And I think he's on track to possibly become and should become


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[Assistant] The leader of the Browns, once he gets on the field, because you go back to his Clemson days, his leadership


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[Assistant] To show, hey, he's back to being who we thought he can be and who he was. And I don't think it'll be a question. He will be the undisputed leader as long as he can show that he's the same player on the field. But I think it's a little premature to call him that at this moment.


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[Assistant] The rest of the team can buy in before there's that like cinching moment.


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[Assistant] And you're in the locker room, and this is stuff that me and G, you know, we're not privy to that, you get actually first hand look at it.


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[Assistant] Do you know what is cool about Deshaun Watson? Did you finish the quarterback documentary?


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[Assistant] Of all the Marcus Mariota scenes, I think it was pretty evident to me that-


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[Assistant] Kurt Cousins was a leader by example. And I got that from watching the show. Who knew he was that tough?


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[Assistant] Dude played through a bunch of injuries, was always there, seemed like a great teammate, but he wasn't, in my opinion, when watching that.


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[Assistant] Coming across as a guy who in the huddle and he was like, let's have a great game guys. Team on three, one through 13. He's like,


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[Assistant] And then you see Mahomes, right? And Mahomes, on and off the field, had this magnetic charisma.


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[Assistant] The way he interacted with his teammates, the way they, during the mic'd up clips in the games when he was like,


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[Assistant] Hey, we're going doing this now. I do this. I do this. And Deshaun Watson has all the characteristics and traits to be in the Mahomes category way more than he has to be in the cousins or the Marriott category. And you guys correct me if I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] Baker may have had that for a quick split second his rookie year when he came in and that second year when they made the playoff, but it never truly seemed like he was.


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[Assistant] The unquestioned guy after the whole Myles Garrett helmet situation and some others. The Sean Watson has all the traits and the characteristics to be in that Mahomes level leader that I don't think the Browns had at quarterback since Otto Graham.


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[Assistant] To anywhere rumors, that I think a lot of Cleveland fans are starting to believe that, hey,


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[Assistant] This could be a reality. It's at least accepting the fact that it could be a reality. Not that it will, but it could be. So that's about what I expected from the chat.


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[Assistant] Andrei Dolsaev, leader of the Occupation Forces, an extremist linked to both the St. Petersburg Massacre of 2015 and last year's terrorist coup in Georgia. And his arm supplier?


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[Assistant] Good. Let's recap the route you will take. Also on site, Mistral, a desperado captain.


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[Assistant] They will probably have a grand reception awaiting you at the Old City. Do not let your guard down.


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[Assistant] Yes, this must be why they are trafficking children. Perhaps other organs are being sold elsewhere, but they are definitely taking the brain.


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[Assistant] You do realize Marshall has the contract for law enforcement throughout the city. They are the law in Denver.


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[Assistant] Maverick Incorporated condemns you and your actions as unlawful. And a pain in the asshole. Now, increase your codec encryption. Do not worry about the lag.


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[Assistant] I do not like what those mudaki are doing any more than you.


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[Assistant] That was quite the fall, Raiden. I'm glad to see that you are alright. It's time you got out of Denver. Raiden? Are you alright?


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[Assistant] Besides, this way they'll learn a trade. Perhaps some discipline, eh?


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[Assistant] Well, I'm not about to return them to the streets, or to broken homes. At least we can give them a chance, huh?


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[Assistant] Her doctor's research and staffing service certainly help.


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[Assistant] Well, you cost them a lot of money, da? Not to mention killing their funding. Literally.


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[Assistant] The bread-taking program is finished, but the larger company is not, I'm afraid. Someone will buy them. PMCs are in demand once again.


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[Assistant] So, your mind is made. You will not come back.


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[Assistant] Recognizing you had to surprise the media, that the media would all move in one direction, and you had to give them something they couldn't anticipate.


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[Assistant] Official pet ride for your family? But first, our top story.


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[Assistant] How could you say that? I gave you everything.


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[Assistant] Everything and more. And then when you even had more... high...


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[Assistant] I can't stay silent any longer. Are you okay Nebraska? Week in and week out, I sit here and listen to you guys talk about things that don't matter. What's going on? But not anymore.


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[Assistant] I now know it's my time to speak about something so vile. What? So heinous. I love where this is going. So indisputably corrupt. Who hurt you? Why are boneless chicken wings still called chicken wings, huh?


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[Assistant] Nothing about a boneless chicken wing actually comes from the wing of a chicken. Boneless chicken wings are just chicken tenders, and those are already boneless.


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[Assistant] I don't go around ordering boneless tacos, do you? No, definitely not. We need to rename boneless chicken wings. I'm so intrigued now. We can call them wet tenders. Please God no.


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[Assistant] Okay, how about spicy nugs? I think we've given enough time to this. So afraid of change or willing to live a lie? You'll remember this day. You all will. Moving on from whatever that was.


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[Assistant] Anybody else have an update this week? We're allowing up to 6,000 fans at two Browns and Bengals games this year. Ian's even got that many combined. He's not allowing, he's looking. Why did I even speak?


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[Assistant] This ain't a government regulation, this is a Craigslist ad. NFL franchise actively seeks 6,000 people to act as fans. We don't have to keep doing this. I'd like to see my boy Joe Burr. Thank you. I'd like to see him walk in, look around and say, where they?


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[Assistant] Oop, uh, it's actually who day. Right, and what do you say for the Browns? Mostly just, I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] Old man gloom, he's a manifestation of all your sadness and gloom from the previous year. Do you have room in New Mexico to hold all of that? Orale, si.


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[Assistant] We just put it on paper. Even if you don't got room, you can just come use our state fair. South Dakota, you're number one in cases per capita right now. I always knew I was the better Dakota. Proud of you, bud. Sturgis clearly wasn't a good idea and you're still having the state fair?


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[Assistant] Why? Should be fun. I don't understand. It's because you're not fun. I'm plenty fun. Spend a weekend in South Beach. You'll understand.


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[Assistant] Who's there? I know you're there. I can feel you.


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[Assistant] Hey guys, you looking for a fight? Here I am.


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[Assistant] Did you? No! You don't recognize him? Should I?


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[Assistant] It's Robert. Robert Pope? Friend of Dad's? Shit.


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[Assistant] He called me. We hadn't talked much since I joined up. He had a break-in last week. He's still a campaigner. Don't you read the news?


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[Assistant] That's what I thought, but it was odd. He told me about the break in, asked me to come, then asked after you.


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[Assistant] Anyway, he was alive when I got here. Just sitting at his desk, writing. Everything went black. When I came to, he'd been shot. And I'm pretty sure it was with my gun. There was a book on the desk. A diary. It was gone. I'm sure there was someone else in the building. Left my radio in the car, haven't had time to phone it in.


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[Assistant] Help me. Effie, please. You've got contacts? There's gotta be more to this. Something he knew. Something he wanted to tell me.


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[Assistant] If this goes down badly, find Lieutenant Miller. My superior. Take anything you find to him.


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[Assistant] Now go! And Faith, thank you.


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[Assistant] Easy. Effie, I can't believe you've done all this. You're my sister.


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[Assistant] Either Maureen, Marianne, there's an M name. Where's the M connection to you?


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[Assistant] Did anybody have either a brain tumor, brain aneurysm, or a cerebral hemorrhage?


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[Assistant] Not connected to him, not connected to you. Somebody behind you had that.


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[Assistant] I'm kinda getting the feeling of not liking the older female.


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[Assistant] Know what I'm saying? Jay because of all that sound, clout, I don't get into that. It's like I look at you like, you my buddy, you my brother, let's do it. So I just play with my talent, know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Juice word, like the Chicago energy right now is crazy.


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[Assistant] He gon' show shit that we ain't see yet, that we gon' touch and we gon' show shit that he ain't see. It's just like vibes.


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[Assistant] It don't even feel right being outside the studio. Like, I had to turn to so much of a studio rat, it's like...


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[Assistant] Some people would be in the studio 24-7 and won't even think it's working. They'd be like, it ain't working. But if you, okay, if you're having like the best day of your life, what would the best day of your life look like?


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[Assistant] And I go to the studio, me talking to my kids is going to change all my energy, all my whole mood. Like can, yeah, can nothing throw me off.


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[Assistant] It's just like, yeaah, I got my own man, my creative process and how I shoot videos, the way I talk to artists, the way I kick it, like, you know what I'm saying, it's like vibes, like, who want to get shot?


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[Assistant] You have six kids? Yeah, I'ma go in the studio and do what I do. I'ma come out, I'ma come out with some shit and I ain't gotta get shot. Bro, when you're an old man, those six kids are gonna be...


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[Assistant] It's really most, the water, you know what I'm saying? The water, the sand, it's just something about it just give you a different vibe. Nah, that's real. The beach, the beach will breathe some good energy into you for sure.


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[Assistant] I remember well getting the phone call and it was one of these situations where


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[Assistant] It almost took us a few minutes to get our minds around how big of a, uh, leak this was and how comprehensive, uh, this set of revelations were. We had very little time to react.


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[Assistant] They want two in a row. Yeah, two in a row. I feel like, you know, I got, we got to support the guardians more, man. I know that things is like this with them, but it's a good time to pull it out. It's been in the back of my closet. So you know why they on a win streak.


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[Assistant] Listen man, I got me a cut the other day. Beard lined up. I did it all just for the show, man. I wanted everybody to know that I look presentable for today's show. I've been rough the last couple of times. So, it's cause I care about you guys. Who would I be if


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[Assistant] Well, my first reaction was it was horrible. You know, it's one of those, you know, I've never been a fan of domestic violence at all. I hate that to me. I just think it's a weak thing. But then as I watched the video, it's like, like you say, he's not his face is not on there. So at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] I don't know if he was there or not. I mean, we can assume that he was, and a lot of people are going to assume that he would do something like this because of his past.


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[Assistant] He's quite built Doug himself a hole where he's had a lot of off the field issues so it's easy to believe that he would do something like this and I think that the Browns have done


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[Assistant] The right thing, you know, that you have to, you have to take this seriously. You know, obviously with the things that they've done in the past, you know, with Deshaun Watson all last year, you got to look at, you got to show women that you are with them and you do take this stuff seriously. The NFL takes it seriously to begin with.


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[Assistant] So I think that it's the right thing to do, uhm, as the investigation, as the investigation goes on, if more things come out where, you know, maybe it wasn't him, maybe it was a bunny grab, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Then, you know, maybe you could look to bring him back, but until then, right now, you have to, you have to go do it the way that the Browns are doing it and make sure that you cut them and make sure you get the correct answer and get the evidence that you're looking for.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, to be fair, you know why. I mean, he just got robbed, so you know he's shell-shocked behind that. But the thing is,


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[Assistant] I mean, listen, the man's been in the building for two years. You know what he sounds like. You know the type of language he used. You know his slang. You know his voice. So you would be able to watch the video and tell if that was him or not, just from the sound of it.


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[Assistant] Well, you know that the Browns, it has to be significantly bad because the Browns have shown that they will stand behind you. They've done it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but if they, they've done everything they could. He's had the assault. He's had the off the field issues. He got suspended for a game last year. It was a lot of things that they put up with to try to overlook because they wanted to work through this and try to make him a better person.


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[Assistant] Work with you, try to bring you back, get behind you, but...


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[Assistant] If you gonna keep doing it, I mean, it's like, all right, man, we did everything we could and the Browns have done a lot for Perry.


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[Assistant] Who is the guy that made Miles do the get-offs again in OTA? Was it Zedarius Smith? Yeah, so somebody's already doing that.


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[Assistant] I think that the Browns, the Browns are prepared for not getting another defensive tackle. Yea, that's fine. They don't need one. Because they, like I said, OTAs, they have the Darius Smith playing defensive tackle anyway.


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[Assistant] Well, I think that I'm pretty sure last year they was in contact with them and then once things started going bad.


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[Assistant] All off, all off the fields issues aside.


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[Assistant] He is a decent pass rusher. Like he did get, he has some TFLs that he was able to cause havoc in the back though. So I think that right there would have kept him on his roster. He was just young, but as he was, as he was getting older and getting some new pass and rush moves, he was becoming a better player. So he was a decent player. He was on his way to becoming better.


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[Assistant] But you gotta continue. Remember, you got edges too. You gotta rotate.


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[Assistant] I'm about to say that's a lot of beating. I don't, you know, I don't do that. This sounds bad.


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[Assistant] Alright, so to end this conversation, Deshaun Watson goes, I did those for 5,000 yards and it's third in passing this year.


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[Assistant] And the joku finished, he missed how many games? The joku?


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[Assistant] This is the problem. This is the problem with your argument. Yeah, go ahead. Tony ain't gonna be available for 17 years.


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[Assistant] Everybody, everybody on the Browns contributes.


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[Assistant] But you still need to justify their trade. That trade was crazy.


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[Assistant] I think everybody in San Francisco as far as the roster goes would say.


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[Assistant] I haven't talked to him about the incident. I have not. But I will ask. I'll ask Kittle.


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[Assistant] He'll never get one. Wait a minute, what was Jacobi Brissett's record as a brown before he left, before Deshawn took over? Not good enough. Was we under 500? Yes. We were?


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[Assistant] They might fire Riverbone Ryan and just make him the coach.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's so cr- He'll get the credit, but- I don't- I don't understand-


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[Assistant] It's a new offense and I just don't think it's just going to be crisp.


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[Assistant] Odell was, I think he's on record saying that, you know, the regular season is meaningless.


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[Assistant] I think it's a way to monetize it, uhm, and to get them on TV.


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[Assistant] You know, you want to, you want to show each country that, you know, basketball, we, we want to have basketball in your sport or have the sport in your country. Obviously the NFL is doing it every year. I think the NBA is just trying to adopt that same mentality and play basketball. Baseball is doing it too. Baseball is doing it. It's been a success. It's been a success in every sport.


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[Assistant] I will tell, see I did my Hawaii trip, I was in, we was in Cali when I played for Dallas. Well we, we had a layover


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[Assistant] I could get a dual citizenship in Jamaica.


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[Assistant] Awesome! It gotta be later in the season.


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[Assistant] Very, very, very good. Are you, what side of the coin are you on? You with Kevin Durant now, offense is more important than defense? Yes. Okay, so he went wrong?


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[Assistant] Even though some comedian went back at him and explained to him how defense is the most important thing.


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[Assistant] Do you know about that? The Kevin Durant and the comedian going back and forth on Twitter and the comedian did like a two minute video explaining to Kevin why defense is important.


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[Assistant] But you got, but you got Izekiel. Oh, you talking about Jess Damani, baby. So, so, but if you ask.


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[Assistant] He can handle the ball though. That's it, that's tough. He can handle the ball, he can jump and dunk at 7'1". He be like, he be like John Marant with 7 foot.


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[Assistant] Scotty Barnes. Scotty Barnes. Well, Scotty Barnes kinda took a step back this year.


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[Assistant] I mean, but he's a fourth all time and an assist. You had Jason Kidd with who?


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[Assistant] Yanis size. Okay. And finishing. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Kevin Durant shooting Kyrie Irvin handles.


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[Assistant] I need them to do what the Cincinnati Reds did. I need them to, to win and rip off, what was it, 13, 14 in a row. Yeah, Reds have hit the shitters since then. They did, they have. But they're still 14. They still, are they in first place still? Nope, they're two and a half back in Milwaukee.


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[Assistant] That ain't a one-hit game. I thought he had, no, I'm saying he had a hit in two games.


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[Assistant] I'm saying the team, if they go to Vegas, would they put a team back?


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[Assistant] I appreciate you Marquise man, you have always been, you know, even though you was big time in San Francisco, you always made time to be.


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[Assistant] You know, humble, one of the most humble guys I know, man, and you always looked out for us and always taught me lessons, even when I was trying to hold on to you and practice.


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[Assistant] You always there to give me some advice, man. So I appreciate you taking time out to come on this show.


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[Assistant] Marquis, you're, you have made it to year 10, something that a lot of people dream of in the NFL. What's been the secret, man? How did you do it? Cause you know, I flamed out after four years. How you make it to 10?


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[Assistant] Do you ever miss the Olympics, you know, doing the long jump and running? Do you ever think that you, you know, wish you would have stayed with just doing that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Marquise was a real solid guy. Real solid guy. Always kept it real, man. Always kept God first, man. He just, he was the ones that when things was going bad and your world was shaken up, he really could talk you and make you, make sure your head is straight. Cause he went, Marquise went through a lot just to get to the NFL.


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[Assistant] I should have had him talk about it a little bit, but his, his story, his background wasn't the easiest role, so.


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[Assistant] It was like, it was kind of like an Imani base situation. You know how you say we wish you want a Imani base to have a guy that's went through what he's went through and that straightened his life out. Marquise is kind of like that type of guy for a lot of players. That's awesome.


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[Assistant] If I ever, if I ever go back and watch another practice.


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[Assistant] He's named too highly in the streets right now. He's named way too hot. Back in the day he used to have the hot boys, he used to say the block is hot.


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[Assistant] I mean, his block has been scorching in his song.


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[Assistant] He was involved with the Greg Newsome thing, the cars, right? Um, you know, he had the incident, you know, over the summer where he was going to court or whatever and the Browns, you know, kept him after that situation. That situation is back in Oklahoma, right? So, you know, at some point in time,


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[Assistant] They're not going to play with you like that. Some point in time, they're going to say, well, look, bro, you're not a first-round pick.


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[Assistant] We don't got much invested in you. We didn't just give you a crazy contract.


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[Assistant] And the way they look at it is, he's doing this right now and he ain't even got no money.


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[Assistant] What's to say this dude can even stay out of trouble for five minutes? And then it's just like, I don't know if he was on camera saying it or like that, but I mean, you could doctor a lot of things. I'm not sure that's doctorable. It sounds like his voice.


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[Assistant] Right? Obviously they're gonna do an investigation, but even if, but even if that is, even if that was his voice, and even if that was him and he's not on the camera or whatever, the stuff he's saying right there is, is, is crazy reckless, bro. What are you talking about? You gotta know.


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[Assistant] You said the right thing. The Cleveland Browns is so desperate to win. I'll give, I wouldn't even say this is credit, but look at what the people they had. They drafted Manziel.


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[Assistant] Now they got, they drafted Perry on Winfrey, they went after Deshaun Watson. It's not like these dudes don't, like if you good or relatively a contributor, they for everything.


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[Assistant] You know, a bit of solid weight, you know what I'm saying. But here's the thing, all they're asking them dudes to do is change the line of scrimmage.


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[Assistant] Just running around. Like, he'll, like, in wide nines, we played a wide nine technique in high school. We played it one year, and then my junior, and then the next year, we played, uhm, which we would call a four eye, it was called


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[Assistant] Inside shoulder technique. So before we were outside of everything, so we was outside of the tight end.


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[Assistant] And when you're outside of the title and you're like 270 pounds.


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[Assistant] Oh, not, not, not, not really. I was one of them annoying dudes. I'd be like, hey man, man, y'all cats, man. I ain't even, I ain't even listened to no DMX. I was listening to Jodeci before your game. I was listening to Slocan. That's what I was doing.


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[Assistant] Right. Yeaah. He woulda, he woulda probably made the team. Uhm, he's better than Tommy Tokiai. He shows more to me than Jordan Elliott. You know, he has the body type where it looks like he could be an impact. You know, three technique as far as rushing the passer. Uhm.


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[Assistant] It would have been, you know, he wasn't going to be no starter, but he could have been a contributor on the defensive line. I'm not going to say he was totally.


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[Assistant] You down to the Tommy Togeye who they had.


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[Assistant] Isaiah, uh, Isaiah Thomas, uh, they just, Alex Wright, you got McGuire, they just, just, just drafted this year.


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[Assistant] Actually, this sounds bad, but if you moved, if you moved, if you moved Miles Garrett to de-tackle


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[Assistant] Yeah. And stand them over the offensive guard. And they gonna be moving around doing all kind of stuff. And I've already told y'all this is groundbreaking on each and every play.


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[Assistant] Either one of those are going to have a two-way go, which means they have no contain.


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[Assistant] They don't have to worry about the quarterback getting outside of them. They could do backflips and spin moves all the way. The quarterback can go run around. It's going to be fascinating how it works because when I was just like, I still can't believe it to this day.


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[Assistant] They, he said something that was crazy. He said what you want to do is when you got


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[Assistant] He says sometimes you don't want even Blitz Lamar Jackson because...


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[Assistant] You wanna give the, the, the defense time to set their moves up and actually get there and sack him, right? Uh, sometimes when you blitz him, he could just...


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[Assistant] Take off right up the middle, you in trouble. Now he in the second yard. So yeaah, like we, we, we actually want Lamar Jackson to stand back there and Pat and look to extend some plays. Fair enough. Alright Mikey.


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[Assistant] The Chiefs went at two positions. They went at Patrick Mahomes and Kelsie, right? Now Kelsie is way above David and Joku. Even if you say Patrick Mahomes is way above all the rest of the quarterbacks, right? So that's a really high bar. However,


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[Assistant] That's what Jacoby Brissette. Think about that.


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[Assistant] Travis, Travis Kelsey is 1400, right? He got 11, he got about 1100, almost 1200. Is it easy to say if you give Deshaun Watson 11 more games, right? And he plays 11 more games instead of, uh, uh, instead of the, the six that he played.


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[Assistant] By the way, if, if, if Patrick, here's the, here's the, and this was the conversation we was going to have if, talk about if people were scared, uhm, of the Browns. If Deshaun Watson gets back to what Deshaun Watson is,


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[Assistant] But here, but you said something early, Tyverson, I thought was fascinating. If you could say, give me Christian McCaffrey. See what I'm saying? Deebo Samuel and Kittle. That's what argument really came in. Well now, if we take out quarterback.


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[Assistant] He has a good year this year. He reminds me of like, you remember when Tony Romo came in and he was like, who is this Romo guy? And you're like, and he just kept doing it. And he kept doing it and you're like, okay, well he's a legit guy. He could be a legit quarterback for him. Trey Lance? Yeah, we can't. I can't.


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[Assistant] I think people gotta really start to give credit to this.


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[Assistant] The fact that, you talk about Patrick Mahomes being head of everybody, Andy Reid when it comes to these plays, it's different. Oh my god. It's different. It's not even, like he's just drawn, he's so far in the matrix now.


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[Assistant] Oh, he ain't got a, he got a quarterback. Who's their quarterback? Sam Howell.


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[Assistant] That's a great accomplishment with no quarterback. You know what's gonna happen? You know what's gonna happen? This is crazy. You know what's gonna happen? You go to Washington, they already in turmoil. Do we play them this year? I don't think we do.


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[Assistant] We go, they go to Washington. They already in turmoil. They gotta sell their team.


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[Assistant] Now you there as offensive coordinator. You got a rookie quarterback that you thinking about playing in Jacoby Brissette. Sam Howe, he been chilling, not doing nothing. Ain't no starts.


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[Assistant] Now you gotta get him ready. If he does not, if he comes in there and they're bad, or they don't have good quarterback play, he's then never eligible for a head coaching job. Ever. He'll never get one.


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[Assistant] So if you got them backups, if you get fired, and it's Washington, that's one of the most rabid fan bases. They'll get you up out of here in a minute. He gonna go down there and play around. Riverboat run. I am not doing this.


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[Assistant] I'm not going from Patrick Mahomes, uh, with my feet kicked up with Caviar, to hanging out in Washington trying to prove what? That's like me, that's like me going from this. You can't be scared of business, man. I'm like yeaah, they need to give G. Bush his own national show.


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[Assistant] By the way, what do you, what do you think, what do you think Odell gets this year? What do you think? You think he gets a thousand dollars? Yes.


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[Assistant] I mean, I've torn, I've torn two ACLs, right? Yeah. And when you tear the first one, it's like, oh, I'm nice. I'm gonna get back. You, you rehab it again. When you tear that second one, it's a whole nother ballgame because even, even though you know what the pain feel like,


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[Assistant] It's just the, the, the, your mindset is like, I gotta go through this again. Like the trend, the rehab is just too crazy. So.


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[Assistant] It's hard for me to say that he gonna come back at a hundred percent. He's always, what's saving him is he was an elite athlete.


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[Assistant] Now we gonna see, well here's what we'll see. His knock was he was never a precise route runner, right?


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[Assistant] It's hard to play with a Mike Vick or Lamar Jackson, right? Cause you don't never really know. Everything turns into a scramble play at some point.


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[Assistant] So, I would say, I would say he's going to play 15 or 17 games. I don't know if the 1200 is realistic because like Bull said, Andrews.


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[Assistant] Is their top target, and if they start off slow or if they're losing, their propensity is always going to be, let's just run into a ball and pair this thing down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because ETA took a phone. And nowadays, like, if you take somebody's phone...


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[Assistant] That's legit stealing property because people got their IDs in there. They got all their credit cards saved in there. That's like, that's the equivalent of you taking somebody's wallet or stealing somebody's wallet.


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[Assistant] I was watching the gladiators and the crunch games and, and listen, yeah, listen, we, we down there with that, that, that JV core four, boy.


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[Assistant] Baseball's doing it too. Baseball's doing it. It's been a success. It's been a success in every sport. Are there any countries that, that you would want to see? Jamaica.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right, right. I don't know why.


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[Assistant] But I know people will be like, no they can't play there. Obviously they're not going to get the chance to play in Russia.


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[Assistant] Obviously they probably won't get an opportunity to play in China. No. Uh, chances are they're not going to any, uh, North Korea. They're not really going to go. They're not really going to, uh, a lot of countries in Africa. So that pretty much only that leaves the European Union.


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[Assistant] That was a stupid question, G. Bush, because you just saw, you just saw a documentary and people think that you can go anywhere. Actually, uhm, there's like pretty much, there's like a lot of countries where you as an American either should not go or can't go.


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[Assistant] I'm not, I'm not going down there in September. Can you imagine, can you imagine the, the, the... Like how about Christmas in, in the...


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[Assistant] That's a landslide. Yes. If you combine, if you, if you use, this is a regular fusion, because they are blood lines, so this is an easier fusion, you don't even gotta use the Plutar earrings, they just do the fusion dance.


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[Assistant] Well, see, see, McNuggets, my thing is, but some people have Evan Mobley already better than Bantamario straight up now.


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[Assistant] What is the BAM average? 20 in the finals. No, I'm saying regular season.


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[Assistant] You know this is a good one because we are, we still on the first one, but I will say to you don't McNuggets, if you said right now, if you was a GM and you said, all right, would you right now, who you want BAM or Evan Mobley?


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[Assistant] Most likely all the GMs will say every month. Today? Yeaah. Today.


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[Assistant] So he's still kinda young. But, but, but, but Evan Mobley, if you go to Bill, if you go to Bill Simmons, Evan Mobley is in the top 20 of non-trainable people.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's ever going to play defense like Cam Johnson. He's still, he's a little bit longer than him, but Cam Johnson shoot 47%. But you got, but you got Isaac.


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[Assistant] I think if you add a choral, I think he would equal, it actually turns out to be Cam Johnson. I think this is A squared plus B squared equals C squared.


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[Assistant] I really think, like, I'm gonna go with...


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[Assistant] If he could shoot like, uh, if he could shoot like Sam Merrill?


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[Assistant] I ain't actually. Actually to be truthful, give me him. Give me that. He's a creative player. Remember they said the face scans for 2K? They still got em. I got my deal with the face scans. But they never worked. You look like you just got in a bar. No, no, my look.


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[Assistant] So you scan your face and it puts it right on your player.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then you got, you got Jason Lloyd's boy, Dean Wade, aka Johnny Bravo, his boy, Johnny, aka random white dude. Yeah, Johnny, Johnny Bravo. And I don't like the fact that a man's name whopper. I don't like that.


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[Assistant] You'd have to add, like, all time players. Like, you would have to be like, give me, like, you could say Mark Jackson's passing ability, or Jason Kidd's passing ability, and it still wouldn't be LeBron. You could say, uh. What are you talking about? Have you added Superstar?


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[Assistant] Uh, so then you would say what, what- Well Larry Bird's a top ten player all time.


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[Assistant] Hmmmm, I don't know about that. No? Larry Bird, uh, it's getting, it's getting kind of, it's getting kind of hectic out here. Cutting them down? Man, give me. Yo kids, yo kids just coming in kicking people out. Give, give me.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, then, then, then that person, the only way you get better than that would be, you would need to get. Dude would be crazy. You need to get Shaq sized.


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[Assistant] When he get to a point where they gonna put him on that bench. Who? You mind? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] And think about that, we haven't had that where it was like, I'm trying to think of a player like-


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[Assistant] Well, Lebron had it all the time, like when we had Kyrie, right? But I'm trying, like Kyle, when Kyle Korver was pulling up.


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[Assistant] You just knew. You just like, yo, that, that, that people was like, oh, he about to shoot cool. But this dude...


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[Assistant] Around him is, I would say, right up there with...


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[Assistant] With, uh, let me see. Oh, we have way more, way more excitement than Colin Sexton. We was like, Colin Sexton, who's this? Well, Colin Sexton was coming


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[Assistant] It's, it's the greatest, it's the greatest unexpected.


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[Assistant] Shot in the dark in Cleveland history. Uhm, is it Josh Gordon?


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[Assistant] Because he was in a supplemental draft, and Ren's like, hey, that's a throwaway, right? They got a receiver in a supplemental draft. I think he was the last player taken in a supplemental draft. Yeaah. And when they got him, we were like, who's this guy? He got kicked out of Utah, kicked out of- But he was a really good talent though. But we didn't- I'm saying when they got him- Didn't nobody know about him. We didn't know, like, we was just like, he's a receiver. And then the first time he played, he was like, I don't know, I have to think about that.


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[Assistant] Or Jose Ramirez. Cause Jose Ramirez was not ranked in anything. No, he was not a top prospect. At all? Nope. Like, it's just like, never heard of him. Who's this Ramirez guy?


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[Assistant] We, we don't really. Yeah, no, don't even do it. Matthew Delvedova.


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[Assistant] Is he in the 90s? He, what, in 92? Oh, he's higher.


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[Assistant] Oh, I see. So we need to play pizzeria. They still only got three home runs.


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[Assistant] Do you, do you feel like the Guardians viewed the baseball team as one of three things? Like a, like a vanity piece, like I own this team.


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[Assistant] Sometimes I just feel like it's just, it's just, baseball is a product of luck. Like,


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[Assistant] Like, who wins is really a product of, I mean, it's a lot of


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[Assistant] Even when Barry Bonds was like, you know, on different enhancements, and he was ungodly at the plate, like he was just hitting everything out the park.


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[Assistant] You know, Marquise, you know, we talked about this offense last year, and uhm, last year, you know, it just seemed like there was that ingredient missing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in terms of the speed and getting downfield. Uh, in Cleveland, we haven't had a vertical passing game. I said, man, you know, a lot of times was watching the Browns was like watching somebody throw the ball in the phone booth. Uhm, but you obviously a guy that has that level of speed, that level of takeoff.


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[Assistant] What are some things that you think you will be able to do with Deshaun Watson, uhm, because he throws a really nice ball and you guys connected, uhm, a couple times in the OTAs.


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[Assistant] You know, Marquis, we try to get, we try to get some insight here, man. Kevin Stefanski, I've been blowing his phone up, I've been DMing him, he ain't answering my phone, man, this dude be playing around, I think he was lining his beard up or something.


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[Assistant] The bag is indeed, uh, has came through. So what type of watches would you like to get?


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[Assistant] If you did get $4,500 for the entire receiving court.


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[Assistant] Really quickly, like you, I'm a big track and field fan, so let me ask you this question. Which is, which is the, the more unbreakable? Flojo's 10, 10-4 or 10-49?


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[Assistant] That goes to show, like see, here's, here's levels, like, you know, you know how, like, you can tell some people get away, like, the Browns be like, you gotta go through the media department, you might not be able to get them, but then you get certain OGs that like, they don't, no, no, no, that's not, that's not on by, by the rules, you can't tell.


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[Assistant] Trump, it'd be hard to, you can't redirect him, he would just be talking, like, we wouldn't get nothing, but, I mean, people would, a lot of people would watch it.


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[Assistant] He, it would be good to get Baker because he, he does not ever do it. He had a true serum. Like, like he has like, right. Like, especially in the, I would want him to be honest, like a hundred percent, but yeah, man, I don't like how you.


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[Assistant] I think they're warming it up to say that they're not going to show Aaron Rodgers that much at all.


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[Assistant] Does AT&T provide customer information to any law enforcement agency? That is not an answer, Mr. Whitaker.


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[Assistant] If you're under instructions by the federal government as a matter of state secrecy not to talk, say so.


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[Assistant] We walk into this room and it's myself and two of my staff, my chief of staff and one of my attorneys.


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[Assistant] And across from us was Larry Sergei and their attorney.


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[Assistant] And read your financial records, read your love letters, read everything. But before leaving the house, it imploded. And he said, that's not violating privacy.


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[Assistant] I immediately said, of course it is. Yes it is. And he said, no it isn't. Nothing's kept. Nobody knows about it.


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[Assistant] I said, that robot has read everything. Does that robot know if I'm sad or if I'm feeling fear or what's happening?


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[Assistant] Unbeknownst to me, ultimately they were going to store the information, and that's why they were against it. And I think it was also, we don't want legislators interrupting our business model. They were going to move forward. And the whole tech industry went against the bill.


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[Assistant] With a mysterious source who had reached out to her using her encryption key and using anonymous channels and said he had a big story for her.


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[Assistant] This was something she wanted to be exceptionally careful about. We agreed on a café to meet at.


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[Assistant] Also my source needed to take very special precautions in the usual.


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[Assistant] NSA style, and so he called me Brass Banner. And he called himself Virax, which means truth-teller in Latin.


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[Assistant] He believed he was risking his freedom and possibly his life, uh, and he warned me as well that if the US intelligence


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[Assistant] Community believed that by getting rid of me, they could prevent the story from happening. He said that my life would be at risk.


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[Assistant] Secret Service bursts into the Vice President's office.


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[Assistant] I want you to tell me what powers we're gonna need, the president's gonna need, that he doesn't already have to respond to this calamity.