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[Assistant] He got hurt. Verse Jacksonville. Verse Jacksonville. And then played. And he played.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just remember a conversation I was having with bull back in, I believe it was July and you could take tag board full here, Steve, but I said bull.


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[Assistant] Talking all things sports, a little behind the scenes stories, and much more on Behind the Glass. Guys, we're gonna switch over to baseball before we get back to football. The Guardians won the MLB draft lottery last night. They had a 2% chance to win it, but odds be damned. Cleveland has a lot of luck when it comes to draft lotteries. This is a franchise changing moment for the Guardians.


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[Assistant] He was a hit five years out of his career. He was a hit. Are you ready for this? I have your list. Okay, go ahead. So we'll go back to 2007 real quick. So David Price turned out to be a very, very good picture. He was a hit.


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[Assistant] 2008 Tim Beckham, eh. No. Not very good. Not eh, he's a b-


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[Assistant] Steven Strasburg, 2009. Hit. Bryce Harper, 2010. Big hit. Hit. Garrett Cole, 2011. Hit. Carlos Correa. Garrett Cole. Garrett Cole. Okay, yeaah.


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[Assistant] This is the string I'm talking about. Carlos Correa, 2012. Carlos Correa. Yea, another hit.


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[Assistant] His name is Spencer Torkelson in 2020, Henry Davis 2021, and Jackson Holliday. Henry Davis is going to be good.


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[Assistant] We're gonna go from baseball back to football and hear from Joe Flacco's former coach. First, a read from FanDuel. As the weather gets colder, the NFL offers stay red hot on America's number one sportsbook. And right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet. That's $150 if your team wins.


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[Assistant] But we are glad to have you on. Coach Keeler also, little bio real quick, two time national champion, eight time national coach of the year, has the third most active wins of any coach, third or fourth, and he coached Joe Flacco at Delaware. And he's here now to join us, talk a little Joe Flacco stories from his time back with the Bluehens. So guys, take it away.


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[Assistant] Wait, coach, before you go, it would be unfair if we brought you on. I didn't play this video, but you see the ring on his finger. The only championship I got to cover was courtesy of this man right here. Steve, let's roll 173 real quick. This was, uh, this was the celebration in Dallas when they beat


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[Assistant] Uh, South Dakota state for the championship. So nice coach, champion, a great storyteller, and you're always welcome back.


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[Assistant] Only coach to win a national championship at two separate FCS schools. He won at Delaware and at Sam Houston, so. Wow. Kudos to him.


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[Assistant] I'm just calling my shot right now. I'm calling my shot. Alright Mikey.


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[Assistant] And remember, Earl, as he said yesterday, is wacko for Flacco. So, let's start, true or false, Joe Flacco has the most road playoff wins in NFL history.


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[Assistant] False. I'm going false. True from Tivus. False from Jay, which means either Tivus is in the lead or he's in the hole. The answer. Eli. Is false. Not Eli. It's actually Tom Brady. I was gonna say it's gotta be Brady. The guy has


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[Assistant] And game show-ish. Here you go, it's back. Question number two. Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] Started his college career at the University of Pittsburgh before transferring to Delaware.


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[Assistant] With University of New Hampshire quarterback Ricky Santos. Is all true or all false? I'm not giving you any half answers today. It's either all true or all false.


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[Assistant] Bull says true, Jay says false, Tyvis says false. And Tyvis?


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[Assistant] You've started out 0-3. It is true. Ricky Santos is real. He was a quarterback in New Hampshire and he shared the award. Bulls got three, I've got two.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco has never thrown more than 19 interceptions in a single season of his 16 year NFL career.


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[Assistant] True, false, so either Bull knows Joe Flacco inside and out, or he's a good guesser, but the answer is false. Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco has the most career passing yards and touchdowns of any quarterback that has never been to a Pro Bowl.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco did not throw a touchdown in his first career NFL start.


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[Assistant] But he did run for a 38 yard touchdown in that game.


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[Assistant] False for Tyvis, he's saying he does not have wheels. Jay says true.


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[Assistant] In 2017, Fanatics conducted a survey to find out who the most attractive player in the NFL was. Joe Flacco was the winner.


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[Assistant] All right, last question. Bull has this in the bag. We're going to finish up. Then we're going to bring on Tony Wiggins of the Lockdown Jaguars podcast this evening. The queue will get to you in one sec, Tony. Tyvis, you better know this one. Why would I know this? This is you specific. You'll find out in a sec. True or false? Joe Flacco's brother, Tom.


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[Assistant] Tyvis says true. Two falses. Tyvis!


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[Assistant] It is true. His brother played for Saskatchewan and Ottawa. Two years champion.


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[Assistant] Guys, I have good news before our next guest. Mary Kay just tweeted.


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[Assistant] Anthony, Cantus Belli, Earl of Pearl. Everything you need to know. 6.30 on Behind the Glass. And now let's welcome in Tony Wiggins of the Locked on Jaguars podcast who has all the answers on.


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[Assistant] What size? How fast? Everything to know about Calvin, really. What's up Tony?


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[Assistant] Also very funny on Twitter, give him a follow, we tweeted out his handle in the upcoming show. Trust me he's worth a follow.


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[Assistant] Only three super chats today. First one comes from Professor Chaos.


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[Assistant] I was wondering what game would be more important to the Browns season? To beat the Jaguars or the Texans? For me, it's the Jaguars to end this losing streak. Do you guys agree?


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[Assistant] I got a little baseball hot stove news for you guys. The Juan Soto thing? Yes, the Yankees, a team that never gets any breaks, has never had a superstar in its entire history. Right, this will be the first one. Is on the brink of finalizing a deal with the Padres to acquire Juan Soto. They traded for Alex Verdugo yesterday. He is not going to be involved in the trade according to John Morrissey.


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[Assistant] The return for Soto, at least, Morosi, excuse me, Michael King, Thorpe, no idea who that is, I'm guessing a prospect, and at least two other additional players, but it looks like the poverty driven Yankees are going to finally get overrated.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're gonna start. We're doing Ask the Show. We haven't done this in forever. We're doing it for overtime. We're gonna get one question in here first. Maybe two if we have time. But we got a bunch we're gonna run through in overtime. For members, if you're a member, you get the full dose of Ask the Show. This first one, Tivus, is applicable for all Buckeye fans. This is from Creative Juice. He says Tivus. Hoping you have some...


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[Assistant] Buckeye insider information. Gotta lead on who the QB will be next season. If you had to bet, who will it be? Is he already on the roster or somebody will get from the portal?


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[Assistant] What's up guys. It is a big Friday, big show, a lot to get into, and we're going to start after a quick word.


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[Assistant] Cleveland Sports Show when Jacksonville head coach Doug Peterson was just speaking to the media about Trevor Lawrence. And this is what he had to say. He moved around a little bit in practice. He's optimistic for this weekend. He talked about Lawrence history of playing after injury said it is a true game time decision based on how Lawrence's ankle feels on Sunday again.


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[Assistant] And he said he can, he's not super prone to scrambling, he'll scramble if he has to, but he's not a statue.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're gonna bring Tim Couch in, but a quick reminder that at the end of the Browns-Jaguars game on Sunday, we'll have a post-game show, as always. Starts at the two-minute warning. It's myself, G. Bush, Earl LaParle, and Anthony.


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[Assistant] Kicking in with you guys, analysis, a party if they win, a little therapy if they lose. Make sure y'all tune in starting at the two minute warning. It's been a while since we've had Tim couching, but Tim is joining us again and Tim, it's never a quiet quarterback carousel here in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] To kick off the NFL season, that is FanDuel.com slash UCSS.


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[Assistant] Fans are an official partner of the NFL, an official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Very good.


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[Assistant] And I did not, sometimes I ask you guys for your answers ahead of time. I did not because I, I want to be surprised because I'm in my own list and I'm very curious to see how many we have this week.


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[Assistant] So ground rules be clear, just so everyone who's watching knows, these are the 10 best players, the 10 guys who will be best on Sunday. So you have to take injuries into consideration. If they're not playing, they're not eligible.


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[Assistant] It's the 10 best guys on Sunday. Injuries matter. Positional value does not.


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[Assistant] We did it. It's funny. I actually had these three guys in a slightly different order, but I had Myles Garrett third. So Myles Garrett's gonna be three and that makes Calvin Ridley four because he had two third round picks and he was my fourth too. So Calvin Ridley four. So through four picks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so through four real quick, we have two each. Josh Allen, Denzel Ward, Myles Garrett, Calvin Ridley.


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[Assistant] Well I actually think, and G, I'm glad you brought him up cause if you guys didn't I was gonna crush you guys.


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[Assistant] Foyasade Olukun. Yeah, that's it. Has led the league in tackles three seasons in a row. He's leading the league in tackles this year.


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[Assistant] We have two more spots to recap the six through seven and eight. We have ETN, Teller, and Lawrence and going one through five real quick. And if you want to live cut that, we took Josh Allen first, Denzel Ward second, Miles Garrett, third, Calvin Ridley.


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[Assistant] I think based on the fact I know Hopkins is gonna play, I'm going with Hopkins. Even though he missed the extra point against Los Angeles.


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[Assistant] He's been one of the best, Brown's best players all season. I think he's going to be another impact guy.


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[Assistant] Well, right now that's in the hands of McNuggets. It is. I'm gonna do a three-way vote here. Okay. Earl, Flacco or Amari Cooper on Sunday in the Giraffe? We're the tiebreaker. Who you gonna take?


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[Assistant] Two for Cooper. Okay. So Cooper it is. Wait, what's yours? I actually would have went Flacco, but these two ones Cooper. I went with Flacco!


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[Assistant] Guys, I got a five pack for you guys, some offense, some defense, and a little CJ Beth. Are you guys ready? Let's do it.


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[Assistant] Let's start with uh, letting Joe Flacco cook against the Rams. Flacco, this is from PFF, threw in a tight window coverage on 18.3% of his passes against LA. That was the eighth highest tight window percentage of any quarterback who started last week.


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[Assistant] He only had one turnover worthy throw, which was the interception. So he did throw it to tight windows. They were usually pretty accurate.


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[Assistant] He also attempted 19 passes of 10 or more air yards. That's the most-


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[Assistant] Alright, number two, Joe Flacco in Cleveland. I just went back and wanted to see his career stats when he was playing teams as the road opponent in Cleveland and Flacco did pretty damn well here.


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[Assistant] In Cleveland, a career 9-2 record, 8-2 with the Ravens, 1-0 with the Jets. That's an 82% win percentage. He's through for 2,500 yards, 225 per game, 14 touchdowns, 5 interceptions. And the last time he played in Cleveland?


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[Assistant] Was that last year's game against, with the Jets? 307-4 touchdowns. Interesting. He has a great record in Cleveland. The Jaguars are 5-0 on the road. They've won eight straight road games. So something's got to give between Joe's record in Cleveland and the Jaguars hot streak on the road.


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[Assistant] Alright, number three. This one, this one may be my favorite and most fac- or not favorite, but the most fascinating to me. The Browns defense this year at home versus on the road has been completely different.


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[Assistant] Totally different teams. They played 6 games at home, 6 games on the road. They've given up 64 points at home.


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[Assistant] That's 10.67 points per game. They get up 184 points on the road. That's 30.7. At home, their EPA, which yeah, I know you said it like EPA, but they have a negative 0.322 EPA. That's the best mark they've ever seen in the NFL. The best ever. Ever? Ever. Just at home. Those six home performances.


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[Assistant] On the road, it's a 0.036 negative EPA. That'd be the 12th best this season. They go from being...


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[Assistant] Okay, on the road to the greatest of all time. And you look at the quarterbacks they've played, I put their initials up there, but Borough, Tannahill, Lamar, Purdy, Clayton Tune, and Kenny Pickett at home. Pickett, Minshew.


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[Assistant] Alright, next up, and before we do the next one, Amari Cooper did not clear protocol yet. He has to finish that, so he did practice, but not officially, that's according to Mary Kay. And also, Jason will be texting during the game this weekend, so if you remember, you get those extra text updates. Alright, McNugget stat number four. Without Denzel Ward, the Browns would have played a lot more cover, too.


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[Assistant] And they have not been good in cover two defense. Last week against LA, Matt Stafford eviscerated the Browns defense at cover two. He was four for five, 102 yards in that touchdown of Pooka Nakua across the middle against an inverted cover two. I went back to see how some other teams fared against Browns playing cover two defense. I went to the Pittsburgh game.


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[Assistant] Because Kenny Pickett sucks. They played Matt Canada twice. Those numbers shouldn't be good because they shouldn't be good against anybody.


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[Assistant] Well, Pickett was at his best, 11 for 16, 160 yards in that touchdown against Cover 2 defense. They didn't put Stafford either, which I know you guys mentioned earlier. Again, just four rushers.


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[Assistant] On Sunday, Stafford's EPA was a positive .28. That's pretty good. Not great, but pretty good. When they did blitz, his EPA dropped to almost an entire minus one.


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[Assistant] Yes. They are, I mean, I can find the exact number, give me one sec, but they're in the bottom 10 percentile of blitz rate. They're still good pressure because they do get a lot. But in the last two weeks, they haven't been, and he hasn't blitzed a ton more bull without the pressure from up front.


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[Assistant] Well, I can't tell you exactly where they ranked, but last week, 18% Blitz% is their lowest in the season, so.


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[Assistant] That's an invitation to bring the house. Right. Let's go. And speaking of backups, I made this one assuming Beathard would start. I didn't think there'd be any chance Lawrence would play. Maybe he does, but if it is Beathard, here's what we need to know about CJ Beathard. He's 2-10 in his career as a starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] 18 touchdowns, 22 turnovers, 14 picks, 8 fumbles. On the road, he's been a little better than he's been at home, which is still be a road game. But in December, he's been at his best. However, however, in outdoor stadiums, he's got 19 turnovers.


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[Assistant] He's a warm weather quarterback, even though he's from Iowa. And hopefully if the elements are in full force, that definitely favors Joe Flack.


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[Assistant] I got super chats real quick before we head over to WKYC. My wife won a Kool-Aid mafia shirt. Thanks Judy. Shout out to Earl sitting next to me. He gifted five memberships today. James Cotsby said the biggest thing I'm looking for is a red hot intensity from our team, especially on defense to start a playoff run.


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[Assistant] Go Brownies Christopher Ortega says, I think it's a huge game because it's an AFC opponent. All of these matter. Young Majestic also says, Bull, don't you remember Leroy told you there's more to it than just yards per carry. Devoid Archangel said, taking Flacco top 10 for sure.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Uh, before we let you go, what's your hunch? Who wins this one?


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[Assistant] No, no, we came a long way, man. Shout out to that little YouTube show, man. That little YouTube show.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, I wa- I was the one that told the world before last week that we was going 5-0. Wacko for Flacco, yeaah. That I was Wacko for Flacco. Uh-huh, sure. And, uh, I feel damn good, man. Joe Flacco has had two solid performances. Yup. Uh, I think with another week of reps under his belt, you know, it looks like he has the total command of this team.


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[Assistant] You know, I think that we just keep this train moving. I think the Bears are playing some pretty good football. Uhm, I think they're a better team than what a lot of people give them credit for.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm a huge fan of Jalen Johnson, the cornerback over there. Uh, Justin Fields is Ohio State Buckeye. Uhm, one of the, you know, best dual third quarterbacks in the NFL right now. Uhm, but I think the Browns are going to be able to handle their business, man. I think Flacos can lead us to another victory. This game is more important than what people think it is.


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[Assistant] So, Bob, how did you get into all this, man? The, the announcement, you know, you do your thing on Z107.9. Yeaah, yeaah. Like, my man is out here booking.


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[Assistant] But the chemistry is not there, right? The pieces, for whatever reason, it don't fit.


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[Assistant] So the movable piece to you is Spider. Who's the movable piece? Just take the starting five all together. Who do you think the movable piece is? Jared Allen. He ain't, he's not movable.


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[Assistant] I'm Adam the Bull, and I'm going to tell you why Old Man Flacco has to be the choice this Sunday against the Rams. Gee Bush.


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[Assistant] I think it's gotta be Flacco. You know, earlier in the week, we all said, well, if DTR gets cleared, let him play. And then Mary Kay came on and said, listen, he got clobbered. His mouth was bleeding. It's already Friday. Now, maybe he gets cleared today, but I think at this point, you gotta go with the veteran.


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[Assistant] And remember, we don't even know that he's gonna get cleared anyway. Marquise Goodwin got a concussion, he's been out a month. I know a lot of guys come back in a week or two. Most players that get a concussion miss at least one game. You had said quarterbacks this year, only one. Right, only one. Purdy's the only guy who got a concussion and then played that following Sunday.


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[Assistant] Uh, but he was already practicing by like Wednesday, Thursday, and DTR is not.


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[Assistant] I'm not exaggerating here. Now, the defense was completely healthy for those games. The defense is not completely healthy for this game, so it's gotta be higher. I think four is the number, slightly below average, they can win. If Flacco's terrible, they're gonna lose, cause I would expect


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[Assistant] The defense not to be elite in this game like they were early in the year because they're dealing with injuries and the Rams have a pretty decent offense.


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[Assistant] Maybe this will be the first time, but the Browns have not been hurt by nonmobile quarterbacks at all.


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[Assistant] The quarterbacks they've struggled with this year are the mobile guys and Matt Stafford is not mobile. He's a statue in that pocket. I'm not worried. Now again, their defense may not be up to snuff as it was. I still think we got as good a defensive coordinator as there is in the league and he will be able to game plan for this game.


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[Assistant] To get them better than they were last week. They didn't play quite well enough last week. Kyren Williams is the type of player that is giving the Browns fits.


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[Assistant] There's a lot of talent on this defense. It may not be as good as Denzel Ward or Miles Garrett, but there's a lot of talent. These other guys gotta step up and play better this


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[Assistant] Kick the tires. He's going to be thrown the ball all over the park. Obviously it depends somewhat on how the game goes, right? You know, part of the reason they threw so much is because they went down in the fourth quarter last week.


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[Assistant] I feel like the defense is going to show some pride this week and make up for the injured guys. I think the Browns defense is going to play very well this game. So I think it's going to be a low, lower scoring game. I don't think they're going to fall behind and that's why I got them running a lot, especially to protect their old quarterback who can't move.


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[Assistant] I think that the Browns are gonna focus on the run game. I don't see how they came up with this idea. Mike's stat about it. Nobody's had eight in the box. I think the Browns, even without Denzel Ward, will do it. I think they're gonna be, they have struggled to stop the run the last couple of weeks. Jim Schwartz has gotta be pissed.


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[Assistant] Ticked off about that. There's no doubt. So I think he's going to make it a focus of what they're doing this week.


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[Assistant] Like he may have three or four field goals, I don't know. I got the Browns with two touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Thrown by Flacco and, and, uh, one field gold.


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[Assistant] Guys, I don't want to rely on Joe Flacco for the rest of the season, but I'm good with a couple of weeks.


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[Assistant] I think he's gonna have a pretty solid game here. Jay talked about he needs to be a six or a seven, 200 something yards and two touchdowns. That's what I got. 225, two touchdowns to lead the way. One to Cooper, one to Cedric Tillman and the Browns hold off the, uh, Rams 17 to 14. Still enough gas.


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[Assistant] Do I need to go get another running back? I think that depends on what Jerome Ford does in his playoff run. I think...


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[Assistant] Uh, have a restrictions? No? I have no idea.


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[Assistant] Jimmy Butler is 6'7". Ayy Mcnuggets, how tall is Jimmy Butler really?


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[Assistant] And that's my thing. If you got guys like Dean Wade playing, you got guys like Isaac Okora who give you nothing offensively. I don't understand with this whole thing, we gonna keep him back. And why is Porter, Craig Porter Jr. not playing? That's the-


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[Assistant] And I'm seeing Imani Bates pull up from half court. He pull it up from half court? He pull it up from half court now. He didn't extended it. He got to extend though. Like just...


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[Assistant] They wake up with those numbers. My problem is, I'm one of those, I want to take five dollars and make it a thousand.


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[Assistant] Exactly, to us, we're on a two game losing streak, we're in the thick of things, we're like the last seed in the playoffs right now, so we really fight. So you gotta come with a great game plan. If Jackieville loses this game, they're still first place in the division, or in their division, and they're still in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] They got, Trevor Lawrence can sit out and they'll be fine. They have breathing room. Yeaah, they're fine. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco is the one that's practicing this week. I know DTR practice on a limited basis, but it's the timing and still getting them plays. I just don't know.


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[Assistant] You, this guy, DTR, he's a rookie. He's already been trying to get this playbook down. And you're telling me on a short week. So is Joe.


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[Assistant] Joe is a pro. Joe's been here. Joe understands, like, Joe went through a whole game plan last week. We even heard his coach say last week how much he enjoys.


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[Assistant] Getting a new install and going through the week with it. So with DTR on a limited basis and Joe full participant.


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[Assistant] I think right now he's getting the timing with the guys. DTR gotta come back and get that timing back. Cause it's not like he was starting for... Two games. Yea, he wasn't starting for like six, seven games where he had the timing with everybody. He's still gotta redo everything again when he comes back.


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[Assistant] I hear what you say in there, but actually, outside of Josh Allen, I'm not really worried about Trayvon Walker, he's still gotta figure things out, but Josh Allen is the key piece.


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[Assistant] Tote, uh, Ethan and Wyatt Teller. So I don't think that the defensive tackle wins will be that significant. But that guy right there on that screen, that's the problem. That's the guy that's gotta get chipped, double teamed and all of them.


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[Assistant] Wait, wait, where's those games at? Is it home or away?


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[Assistant] That's why, that's why I asked, cause I wanted to see if they was on the road. So Tennessee, they should probably win. Tennessee 34-14 earlier this season.


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[Assistant] Well the thing about method is that actually this is funny. The season that Jimmy got hurt was the season that we didn't play one game in Code Elevator.


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[Assistant] Wow. It was unbelievable. It was the, it was the best season of my life. Cause I didn't have to worry about being cold. We actually play every game warm. So I really can't answer that question, but he, he went to Iowa. So yeah, you would think he could.


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[Assistant] And when you talk about, you know, Joe Flacco, I think the biggest difference between Joe Flacco and DTR, Joe Flacco brings that, that calmness to it. It's like when you go out there with Joe, it's like everything might be going crazy and Joe will be like,


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[Assistant] Calm down, guys. This is what we're gonna do. And you need that on the field. Because over the course of an NFL game, it goes up and down. It's really an emotional roller coaster. You need that one steady guy. That's why I think Kevin Stefanski is so good. Because no matter what situation is going on, he's the same. I feel that same way with Joe Flacco. I mean, his leadership on the field, the way he went in that game last week.


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[Assistant] We are watching like, man, this offense, you know, we've been thinking all this time, we need a mobile quarterback to do all these, these fancy things and run this Kevin Stefanski offense.


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[Assistant] And I think with him, he knows how to win games. DTR is playing to kind of not lose essentially, because like I said, he knows he's the quarterback, he's going to be here, but he wants to get better every week.


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[Assistant] I just feel like with DTR, it's like, yeaah, I know


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[Assistant] He knows he can do it because he's done it in the NFL, he's won the Super Bowl, so he knows how to do it. DTR is young, he's still trying to figure out if he's confident enough to do that. He's been able to make some throws, but he hasn't had a complete game where he was just like, oh I know, I belong here. He's still trying to figure it out.


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[Assistant] It's not every pass he throws gonna be in tight windows, but if you can make those, that's confidence. It's like, alright, this guy looks good. The offense looks really good. Some people say it's one of the best quarterback performances we've had this season.


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[Assistant] I wonder, I wonder how frustrating, is it frustrating for, you know, the offensive line and the receivers to, to have to continuously change the way, cause obviously with Joe Flacco, you block differently than DTR and Deshaun Watson, or if I'm a receiver, I gotta run my rounds.


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[Assistant] Are you insinuating that, what is it, five games left? In these five games, does he finish all five games?


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[Assistant] So what I would tell you is, from a standpoint, from strictly this standpoint only.


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[Assistant] After this season, who's still going to be here? It will be DTR. The problem with this season has been we haven't had a veteran backup quarterback. So take the last four games for better or worse.


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[Assistant] Let's think about this. Let's do it. Let's think. If the Browns don't make the playoffs this season.


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[Assistant] Yes. How many people go be upset? A lot. Everybody.


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[Assistant] Everybody knew after, once Baker got hurt and continued to play, it was like, we ain't going to.


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[Assistant] No, cause I think they can still win out there last four.


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[Assistant] It's tricky. Just being out on the west coast is just tricky for the, for Cleveland. I don't know what it is. Oh, and nice.


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[Assistant] Everybody. It's just weird out there. It's just weird. When the Brown, when Cleveland plays the West Coast. Where there's basketball, baseball, whatever. It's just weird. Okay.


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[Assistant] However, when I- So you think that was- Ah! It's an anomaly. Okay. That's what I'm waiting for.


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[Assistant] I ain't going against Miles. Miles is going to be the one that's going to make the bigger impact in this game.


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[Assistant] Why do I say that? I say that because now that they're back at the Browns stadium, where does the Browns play their best? At home. Exactly. So with that being said, it's going to be so much energy there that even if-


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[Assistant] On the road, but who's missing the left tackle?


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[Assistant] So the reason, the reason I'm going with, with Miles, uh, over Josh Allen is for that reason right there. I think Kevin Stefanski does a really good job with the bootlegs, with the running the ball. I think he'll be more running the ball this week. I think both teams are really trying to run the ball more.


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[Assistant] However, Joe Flacco is the more of the vet in this situation, so he knows, he knows that pressure's coming, he knows, he got a clock in his head, he knows to get rid of the ball. CJ, I told you, I played with him. CJ is the guy that's gonna try to make a play that, with his legs, if he needs to extend plays. Is he mobile?


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[Assistant] When he got into the accident last year, he put up some games where he had nothing.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna end it with this. At the conclusion of the Jacksonville game, Miles will be ahead of Josh Allen inside.


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[Assistant] Aditi, Miles going out there, he obviously he has the shoulder injury and now that he doesn't look like quite himself, do you think he's hurting the team?


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[Assistant] Aditi is the most underrated Brown's offensive weapon, um, Harrison Bryant.


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[Assistant] Aditi, you know, the last couple of weeks,


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[Assistant] Now I mean, the only thing that I notice, this is, I notice that the, out of all the places I've been,


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[Assistant] This was the Browns, seeing Jimmy and Dee was all like there, was the most I've seen owners at their thing. So they are around it much more. Uhm, I actually had a conversation with them. I went to a charity event, golfing charity event, even though I don't golf. You know that. Soccer.


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[Assistant] But I had a conversation with him, but you know, that was, this was Hugh Jackson at the time.


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[Assistant] It felt like the owners had the power in Cleveland, to me, in my personal opinion. I was like, Jimmy and D makes all the calls around here. What was it like in Seattle? Did you ever see the owners?


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[Assistant] I, so I did see the owner, he would drive, he would drive in on- Paul Allen? Yea, he'd drive in on his boat, rest in peace to Paul Allen.


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[Assistant] That's the life. That's the life right there. Because you know Seattle practices on the water. On the water. So he drives in, parks the boat, get off.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Okay. In the locker room. So, so after the game, like with the 49ers, I'd see them. I'd see them in the locker room. Really? Win or loss? Win or loss, they'd be there, cause they, they'd shake your hand, and you'd walk in. Interesting. Okay? But, like, Kyle would say his speech, and then that's it. Like, I don't see them after that. Okay. So they only in there for like a split second.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'ma be G. Bush. If G. Bush was here, he would say this.


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[Assistant] When y'all do y'all best is when y'all shooting. You got a guy that shoots that with no hesitation. Now he done got better. He done had a couple of minutes and some games this season. He had a couple of decent games. But if he lighting up the G League right now and we ain't getting nothing else from the bench, why not give my young boy the shot?


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[Assistant] Well I don't like that though, because that's an indictment on the coach there. Because if you got a bunch of players right now that's playing ISO ball.


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[Assistant] But my thing is, right now, when you look at the Cavs, you, you, you hate the way they're offensively, they're structured, because it's a lot of one-on-one pick and roll. I understand the point.


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[Assistant] Wow, that's kind of the unspoken leader here. One of them is, one of them and George Yang feels like, oh I can see myself being here long term. One of them is like,


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[Assistant] Now when you, when they showed the Jacksonville's defensive ranks, they ranked 30th in pass and I think 6th in rush defense.


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[Assistant] Now, what I know about Kevin Stefanski is he likes to pass to open up the run. Since he did the same thing in Denver, Denver was the worst rush team, but yet he still throws them through the ball. Do you think that still carries on this game or you still think, you think they should just continue to run the ball then pass or you think they should play the pass and then open up the run?


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[Assistant] Oh, uhm, I think it's, at this very current moment, I would, from what I know, I think it's somebody that's on the roster.


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[Assistant] I will tell you that they, they do have Cam Ward projected to go to OSU.


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[Assistant] All I, you're wrong, it's not 20, it's 21%. Thank you very much.


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[Assistant] We got a whole town full of them. Chris Antonetti is like that. Mike Chernoff is like that. They're good. They never give you anything.


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[Assistant] People are gonna, uh, certainly not me, but people are gonna make comments, probably not as much because it's not Deshaun Watson, but he, he said it's just a pain tolerance thing.


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[Assistant] But the, the bottom line is you're, you're affected in all three units. Your best defensive lineman is either not gonna play or more likely gonna play injured. Your best linebacker, Anthony Walker, although I guess some would argue J.O.K., but I'll say Anthony Walker's their best linebacker. He's a g-


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[Assistant] We don't know about him because he didn't play last week. Right. And obviously your best DB didn't play last week. We don't know. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's great that there's no structural damage, and yeah, I like you guys, I'm gonna assume that Miles Garrett's gonna play this week, cause we know he's tough as nails, but...


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[Assistant] We saw it as you referenced, Jay. Last year he wasn't the same player. No. He's not gonna be as good. Uh, but!


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[Assistant] Right. I, I, I don't know. Yeah, I mean obviously Cooper was not really much of a factor in this game before he got hurt. And now, you know, he's day to day supposedly too with the ribs.


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[Assistant] So he is picking up the production. So it is his best quarter. You were right about that, but it's certainly not a play man. I mean, 13 yards. Listen, he is the guy to go to in the fourth quarter. No, I bet you.


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[Assistant] Well, that's because in the offseason, every fan base convinces themselves that every player on their team is great. Yes. And in some cases, better than they actually are. In many cases. And that was it. But ultimately, it's not the fan's fault to bounce inside the Andre Hopkins, it's Andrew Berry's fault. And he, you know, he did it for whatever reason.


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[Assistant] You know, I- Well, you sure know.


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[Assistant] Well, who's signing during the season that's not on a minimum deal? Like, who's signing? That wasn't during the season, that was before the season.


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[Assistant] You screwed up his first name and last name.


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[Assistant] And, you know, that's going to lead to maybe Flacco starting. By the way, Kevin Stefanski was asked about who's going to start.


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[Assistant] That's fine, but he could have said, but he could have said, Hey, if DTR can't go, we are going to start. Oh, that's what I agree with.


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[Assistant] It is not. I wonder if it's, I wonder if contributing to that. Obviously we talk about a defense everywhere. Guys are getting bigger, faster, stronger. Yeah. But we've seen a trend of a lot of kind of thinner quarterbacks. We're not as.


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[Assistant] Look at Bryce Young, look at, look at DTR. I mean that, that video of DTR from a couple of weeks ago, walking into the locker room wearing that jacket that's like seven sizes too big, he's carrying a purse, I don't know what was happening.


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[Assistant] I think he's fine for a game or two. I wouldn't want, cause listen, Joe Flacco is pretty much washed, right? He's got a good, probably game or two left in him, but after that, he's gonna go down to two. What he did against us last year. Right, and then after that, he crapped the bed.


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[Assistant] Since leaving Baltimore, in the four years he's been out of Baltimore, he has 20 touchdowns, 19 turnovers. Not good. But it's a lot better than Peter Walker. Boy, what an investment. Boy.


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[Assistant] For DTR, are we all in agreement that we're playing DTR if he clears? Yes. Yes. No matter when it happens? Yes. If he clears on Saturday, you stick him with DTR? Yes. I am. Yes.


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[Assistant] Nah, wasn't a high draft pick. He might have been an undrafted free agent.


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[Assistant] The name's on the tip of my tongue, but I can't even. It wasn't Hawkins, cause you know Hawkins. No, I know Hawkins. White guy? No, black guy.


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[Assistant] If, if, if pot had been legal ten years earlier, we would have had him. We would have had him with Josh Gordon.


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[Assistant] Sure, it's Gary Barnage and not, uh, what's his name? The guy who had two first names?


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[Assistant] Wait a second. Before we talk about anything else with Mary Kay, we've got to talk. You had one of the greatest tweets in the history of Twitter last week with the Dolly Parton tweet. Thank you.


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[Assistant] What about Amari Cooper? Obviously he had the rib injury. Do we know anything about him?


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[Assistant] Alright Mary Kay, so we gotta talk quarterback now. DTR obviously had the concussion, he's in the protocol.


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[Assistant] This typically guys that go in the protocol do miss at least one game, although Brock Purdy was in the protocol and then, and then played the next week. So it's possible. So I'll ask you, obviously we don't know cause he, you know, we've seen Marquis Goodwin's been out a month with a concussion. If he clears protocol, will he play no matter how late in the week and B, if he doesn't play,


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, uh, we were talking earlier about the amazing


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[Assistant] Performance by J.O.K. I mean, this guy as a rookie was okay.


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[Assistant] And then last year, he was hideous. I mean, he was, he was a total disaster. Dequell Jackson, the Brown's best linebacker in the last 30 years, said on this show they should cut him. That's how down he was on them.


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[Assistant] And this year, he's playing like a monster. Maybe even a pro bowler. I don't know, we're not watching the other linebackers on other teams close enough.


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[Assistant] Obviously Jim Schwartz is a big part of that, but he's gotta be given some credit. How do you explain just how much better this guy is from last year?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, I gotta, I'm gonna text you, there's a, there's a Jewish deli in LA that I went to when I was there. It was amazing. The food was incredible. I can't think of the name, but I'm gonna text you if you wanna go.


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[Assistant] You gotta take away your criticism because he had a bad game. That's stupid. Josh Dobbs, listen, we know what Josh Dobbs is. He's a backup quarterback and he had a terrible game. But overall, he's had some good games this year. And the bottom line is,


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[Assistant] The Browns would have been better off with Josh Dobbs than any of the other guys they've had. Fact. You know. I agree with that. That's it. Now, is it the end of the world? Could they have gotten somebody else? Yeah, okay. But look, this doesn't validate Andrew Barry for trading them.


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[Assistant] Well, things have gotten so bad, I was talking about this on my podcast this morning, that it's, it's politics, it's sports, we get in our camps and we cannot move. This side is always right, no matter, even if we know it's wrong in this case, we're gonna defend it no matter what. I don't know how we became that. We're divided. Awful. I don't do that.


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[Assistant] We don't want to go too deep down this road, but the question with Baker was always,


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[Assistant] Is he good enough to win you a championship? Right. But then it became you hate him or you love him. Yes. When the reality was he was in the middle, he's a mid-tier quarterback, he wasn't last year, he is back to, you know, for all my criticism of Baker, I didn't think he was going to be out of the league.


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[Assistant] Bernie, we were talking, we all said before that if DTR clears protocol, we can still play him. Mary Kay said, and she makes a good point, he took such a hard hit that she would just sit him this week anyway. What's your thoughts on that and what's your thoughts on how DTR has played so far?


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[Assistant] Barney, uh, shoulder has been a huge theme this year with Deshaun Watson. Now your two best defensive players are dealing with shoulder injuries. Denzel Ward obviously missed the game this past week and Miles Garrett couldn't even lift his shoulder.


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[Assistant] They said no structural damage, but we know the Brown messaging on these injuries hasn't been great. How concerned are you about both Ward and Miles for the rest of the season?


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[Assistant] And said he had the easiest competition in the AFC East, which is true.


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[Assistant] You ain't gonna catch me on this, but I told Mike behind the, behind the glass on the two minute warning. I said, this is terrible. I gotta go up there and see these other two jokers up there. Tell me about the run game. This is horrible.


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[Assistant] The bird calls are in the game. Yeah, Flackevelli, I told you, 303 touchdowns. I had it on, I had it on, on the, uh, on the topics. You saw it on my headlines. You know exactly what it is. Hey, we'll get to Joe Flacco in a second. But by the way,


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[Assistant] If you get 2,000 likes, I'm giving this away. And when it comes to the barber shop coming up later on at three o'clock, I'm going to actually give away two more of these shirts. So go ahead. We can do that. But let's get back to this game.


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[Assistant] Listen, this has been so enjoyable for me because


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[Assistant] This is, this makes me feel like I'm a kid again. So often that we got to a point where everything was boiled down to just the quarterbacks and boiled down to the lowest common denominator, well we forgot.


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[Assistant] That in football, it's about 11 guys doing their job, all working on one accord, trying to work to a common goal. And at, at, at their score, that's what football is. And it just goes to show you that we hear so many times, if Deshaun Watson is done, the Browns are done. Or if Josh Allen is done, they have no chance.


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[Assistant] If you still got people that refuse to back down, refuse to say that we are finished and don't punt seasons, this is what can happen. Joe Flacco was on his couch and there's something to be said about learning about your own mortality.


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[Assistant] The second you realize that nothing is guaranteed and you should, you should cherish every single day.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco keeps saying, I'm out here playing and I feel like a 10 year old kid. I feel like I'm out here just really like being out here, just being in a locker room with the guys, just being a dude that's part of something. And he said, I was watching these guys now, I'm just thanking them for having me in. And the reality of it is,


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[Assistant] Without him getting cut from the Jets, I don't think he plays like he does today. I think it's all wrapped into one thing and it's a timeline that can only happen this way. This is a special team. This is a special time. And I, you know, I want to tell everybody, lock in, because I don't think you're going to see this very often.


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[Assistant] Don't be a person that is missing what's happening on the field in a special place because you're worried about all the outside stuff. The Cleveland Browns are for real. The Kool-Aid is for real. They've already drank it multiple times and they believe that this team can beat anybody that they play.


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[Assistant] But this is the funnest I've ever had watching the Cleveland Browns in my 42 years because of the attitude and the spirit they got because it shows you.


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[Assistant] Some of the parts can be better or bigger or more special.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'ma give him an A-. The only reason I give him an A- is because he had to fumble. I don't put the interception on him.


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[Assistant] But you know, he reminds me of the times that you hang out with your grandfather and you got a, you know, a mentor. They teach you, you know, man stuff like, okay, this is how to tie a knot. Or you sit with him and he teach you how to grill. And he's a man of very few words.


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[Assistant] Don't say much, but, but if you listen and you just sit and be quiet, you're going to learn something that you could use later on in your life. Joe Flacco is like one of those guys. So we're calling him Grandpa Joe. Yeah, Grandpa Joe is out here now. You look at what he's been able to do and why he's so successful.


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[Assistant] If you take a look at it, he's part of another generation. See, there's generations in quarterbacks, right? And one of the things that Joe Flacco is able to do, when he can run play action, that is a lost art. It's like a lost science. People are like, oh, that's the mind counter.


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[Assistant] I think he's in the league in general. Because he does it so well because he's so deliberate. It's like he's moving in slow motion and he wants that safety to see it. He wants that linebacker to see it. And when you can run play action like that.


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[Assistant] Now you give your receivers a couple extra seconds to get off the line of scrimmage. A couple extra seconds to get downfield and run their routes. And so Joe Flacco to me is a guy who, when you have that experience, it's like dancing.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski don't have to tell him how to do the waltz or the two step. He comes in right here, magically inclined, knows what to do, knows what the footsteps on the bootleg are supposed to look like. So now all Stefanski has to do is say, oh, ha.


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[Assistant] Let's go ahead and run this cause you like this. And the thing that makes it so impressive, when you look at his progressions,


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[Assistant] He has so much experience, he can get to his first target, and if his first target is not there, he don't even have to look at two and three in a progression.


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[Assistant] Because he knows, oh, that ain't there. I know what defense are running, no swarm. And what he was doing, right after the running back, right now.


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[Assistant] Now you give your running back two or three, four extra yards because now you're getting into Kareem Hunt, you're getting into Jerome Ford and they're getting the opportunity to make people miss and get, just move the sticks.


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[Assistant] So those things, those little small details, the devil's in the details, and Joe's doing all the small things which is really making the offense move and getting them in a good position.


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[Assistant] Yes, when you got DTR and why I said give me Joe all day, and besides DTR, I like DTR, I gave him his nickname, but this is the stat. Three touchdowns versus the Blitz.


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[Assistant] He, he, he wants to blitz. Sure. That's where you come up with when they say, you can't blitz that guy. Don't blitz him cause he's going to fight.


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[Assistant] He finds the open guy versus the blitz. And that's the biggest difference between a veteran and a young quarterback. He makes you pay when you blitz. So now you gotta think about it. Do I want to blitz Joe Flacco cause he's a little more mobile than I thought.


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[Assistant] By, oh my goodness. Thankfully we don't see him that much. Leatherwood cannot be that bad. He cannot be.


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[Assistant] How many more games do you need to see before you feel like...


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[Assistant] This is sustainable. I can't believe this. Well, I think we think that now. Like you, you have that hope now. But you know, okay, let me rephrase it. When will you stop holding your breath? When the season's over.


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[Assistant] Right? And in Jacksonville, look, they're a division leader. Trevor Lawrence, I don't think he was that hobbled. I mean, he may have been at 85, 90%. But the team you saw in Jacksonville is the team you will see come playoff time.


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[Assistant] Earlier in the year, we were looking at the numbers and we looked at, oh, how many yards you're giving up, how many points you're giving up. Right, right, right. And we were like, oh, this team is great, but the one thing that we kept talking about is, they ain't get no turnovers, no turnovers, gotta force turnovers.


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[Assistant] He came up on the run support. He had a really nice tackle and a little quick screen.


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[Assistant] Two, uh, two picks, three pass breakups on one man-to-man coverage. Thought he played his tail off. And, you gotta think about the other guys. I thought you were dead spot on with Newsom. Best game he's played so far. And by the way,


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[Assistant] The Browns on defense, a sign of a good defense is they can beat you anyway. They can beat you with interceptions, they can beat you with sacks, they can beat you with stopping a run, they can beat you with stopping a pass. They just beat them.


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[Assistant] Basically because they had way too many turnovers, and that's a sign of a good team that could play different ways.


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[Assistant] Mcnuggets, did you see that? I think I was watching last night, uh, PFF. Did you see the PFF raid where they said Miles Garrett, like, had a 39%, um, pressure rating? Once Blake Hans came in. Yeah, like, remember Blake Hans?


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[Assistant] And we, we don't want the game to be about the flags. Like, nowadays, guys are throwing the football up, it's third and 16. Right. They're throwing the football up, and they know you're not trying to really complete that. They're throwing it in double coverage to see if you get some contact. That's right. And it's a spot foul. I hate that. But in terms of Miles Garrett, I'll tell you what. Good job, big homie. Listen, y'all got all that money.


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[Assistant] I would have, uh, uh, call out the referee kitty fund. I got all kind of money right here in the pot for you. I would call, he should be doing that two, three times a year telling them how bad.


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[Assistant] Are you gonna have some swag to throw out to the crowd? I might have a couple things when we don't. See, I wish y'all had told me that in advance.


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[Assistant] I might got a couple pieces, we'll see what we do. Alright, see what you can do.


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[Assistant] He does give you, uhm, some splash plays. I don't necessarily think he's a home run hitter.


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[Assistant] But sometimes you get intoxicated with that. If he can give you a 60 yard play, you'd say, okay, well, let's fill out and see if he can get some more touches and we can maybe get a home run because our offense is built on, we're not going to get 40 points a game. However, he also gives you


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[Assistant] He has issues. I'm like, listen, there's times where there's two or three yards that are there. Running backs coaches will tell you.


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[Assistant] If the two or three are there, put your foot in the ground, get forward. He does a lot of lateral east and west stuff and he's, he's taking losses too much. You can't do that, especially with this type of offense. I think he's not very, and I don't even like, I can't believe I'm saying this word.


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[Assistant] I think, I think when you got Kareem or Kareem.


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[Assistant] Now he's shown some glimpses and he's been okay in the role. We'll see this week if Pierre Strong will get an opportunity to see what that looks like. I would think so. I'd like to see him get


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[Assistant] It has left a lot to be, to be desired, especially when you're talking about the outside zone stuff. Their best runs are the inside attack, inside with the guards in the center. Behind Wyatt Teller is their best run. Yea, yea, that's it. Yea, the outside stuff, they've been working.


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[Assistant] There might be a chance that the Cleveland Browns go from a running team, and I never thought it would happen.


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[Assistant] In a way, in a way, Kevin, here's how you know. And I'ma just give y'all the crystal ball. Here's how you know when Kevin Stefanski feels good about something.


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[Assistant] The only time he's ever shown emotion on that sideline was against Tennessee when Deshaun Watson threw that deep ball.


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[Assistant] Fluid, I like the word cohesive. Uhm. Functioning. Functioning.


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[Assistant] Same page, I know that's two words, but, you know, it goes back to what he just said. I think that this is a, uh, this is the epitome of what he wants to run, right? It's just like being in a relationship, man. You find somebody that, that likes you and they deal with your baggage.


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[Assistant] And he know where to throw it or not to throw. Oh yeah, I'm good. This is what I'm looking for right here. I think he's like that man. And I don't mean to derail the show and you know, cause here's my thing, but.


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[Assistant] This is the way Kool-Aid works. And I'm just let you know as the Kool-Aid, we are serving large goblets and cups of Kool-Aid, of Flacavelli in the streets right now. And every win that comes down this pipeline, you know it as well as I know it.


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[Assistant] People, when they already start talking about the amount of money that you got from one touchdown pass to the other, the seed is already planted.


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[Assistant] The reason he gets, the reason I think people give him criticism is this. It's difficult when you are, like if you're one of those coaches and you're gonna be the GM and the coach. Or you're gonna be the offensive coordinator and the head coach. Because if, say for instance, Alex Van Pelt was just the offensive coordinator, Stefanski wasn't it.


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[Assistant] Nobody would say Fierce Safanski, right? They would, he would be up for the coach of the year. They would say it's Van Pelt's fault or I second guess him. But when you are the offensive coordinator, sometimes you're going to get more of the overflow because people nitpick coordinators from play to play down to down.


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[Assistant] Imagine that. You got the same dog on record as the Chiefs. That's crazy. With PJ Walker at quarterback.


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[Assistant] They have to go for it. I'm going to say this. It don't even really matter if they win the division to me because I'm looking at all these teams and I think the Browns as well can't beat, they can be.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I haven't, I just haven't seen them. It's just, like, can you believe that your best players are out and you're 85? The same record as the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] I mean it's crazy. What a story. So he doesn't know what it is to really fail. To miss a field goal. Yea. In the NFL. That's, that's maybe part of it. The mental aspect of it, at least you, every kicker knows what it is to miss a kick. But this guy's like, this is like,


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[Assistant] The best, the best thing about it is, is you go, and kickers sometimes look like, feel like they're outside of the team locker room. They feel like they're not part of the team. You go back and watch the reaction. Kevin Sofanski gives them the game ball, uh, after the game. And he comes in, has the ball, and he just comes in and you could tell.


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[Assistant] Everybody's cheered for, everybody's excited. It's just like he's a dude that's part of the team. Well, look how the game played out.


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[Assistant] So stupid. It's supposed to be a love tap help. I know, but some of them are trying to protect our heads here. What happened? Some linemen are ridiculous. Once again, that's why we limit their access to the field. You don't be out there like stop the head button or kicker. Give him a look. We don't need to get the concussion over here. Let's go.


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[Assistant] That is crazy. I've seen, I, I, well, my college teammate was Dave Zasadil, so he used to kick the ball and practice crazy, but that, I mean, I don't care who you, who you point or who you play with, that's still impressive. You know what was nuts? It's crazy.


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[Assistant] When you're dealing with big dudes and linemen, it's just tough. Like the dude is like 4,000 pounds at 6'8". Like you getting in the stance, you gotta drive off the ball, and if you got a bad wheel, it's just like, they're like, listen, we might just shut him down. They found a diamond in the rough, I have no problems if they say,


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[Assistant] Dwayne Jones is done for the year. We gonna get him together, get him back next year. They found a tackle to future. That's right. And I own it. I ain't gonna jinx it.


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[Assistant] They usually get that big of a bag when they talk about extensions and safeties where they don't even get picked in the first round. So it's almost like, you know, they're not going to be able to get that fifth year that you would usually give on a rookie deal because they usually get drafted in their late first, early second round. For Delpid, I thought it was a very smart decision.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I thought his agent looked around, looked at the, uh, different, uh, you know, contracts that is out there. He said, listen, we might as well go get this done right now. Get you some security.


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[Assistant] Uh, and he did it at a young enough age where he may get another bite at an apple because he only signed for a three year deal. He could come back up and possibly if it don't work for the Browns, he can get another contract other places. I thought he was having the best year of his career. And I think that's just some of the deals that the Browns are trying to do to wrap up. Hopefully.


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[Assistant] Congratulations you guys. I ain't get no social security. Keep it rolling.


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[Assistant] And that, that's why people say it's imaginary, right? The cap going up is them saying, okay, we'll just spend more money. It's like, you never know when somebody does tax breaks, right? You never know what the unintended consequences of tax breaks are. That is very true. Three to five years, you gotta wait three, five, six, seven years to even see


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[Assistant] Did it work? Did it get his economy better? We don't know. So it's like, okay, they keep giving these contracts and they're, they're hell-bent on keep giving these quarterbacks 600, 700.


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[Assistant] They'll figure it out, but I, you know, you can't. They better. Bull has, you did say that. Which team, I can only think of one team.


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[Assistant] The San Francisco 49ers, when the cap was back in the 90s, and they just basically screwed the cap up, and they were the team that got left out, and they had to play all kind of money and figures. But look, who a team has not been able to field a team?


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[Assistant] I'm grateful for all the people at Town Hall who were able to work with me today and doing things like this is wonderful for the kind of unity we're trying to have amongst each other.


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[Assistant] Definitely a great time to see family, a great time to give back, and just be thankful for everything you have.


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[Assistant] Welcome to the pre Pittsburgh Steelers show, the ultimate Cleveland sports show on channel three. We are 48 hours and 30 minutes from kickoff over at the stadium. The Steelers and the Browns coming up on today's show. We're going to talk about


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[Assistant] Yeah, we earlier this year, I think we asked the question, like, is there even a need for the dog pound because it didn't feel organic anymore?


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[Assistant] And I'm not ready to say that the reason that they're home field advantage is because of the dog pound. I just think it's a great home field advantage. It's a great crowd no matter where you're sitting, but we'll talk about that.


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[Assistant] First up, really the rest of this season comes down to one thing. How will DTR play as he's filling in for Deshaun Watson?


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[Assistant] Now, on the surface, Deshaun Watson, franchise quarterback, most guaranteed dollars in the NFL.


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[Assistant] When you look at his numbers to this point in the season, he had just seven touchdowns and four interceptions, so it's not like he's exactly in the conversation for MVP. Still, I think everybody agrees DTR is not Deshaun Watson. The bigger question for Sunday guys, can he play better than Kenny Pickett, who hasn't been great, but his team is 6-3.


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[Assistant] Is he gonna be better than Kenny Pickett? I think the real question is, is he gonna be better than he was the first time around? He can't be worse. And I don't mean better by a little, I mean significantly better. And to your point earlier, yeaah, that was a pop quiz. It was his first start in the NFL. Can you imagine the butterflies that were swimming in his stomach when at 10.30 the Browns came up to him and said,


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[Assistant] You're the guy. I'm sure he had some idea that might happen, but still he looked across the line of scrimmage on that first play and he didn't see USC's defense. He saw the Baltimore Ravens, grown men, and he was, I think just, he was awestruck.


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[Assistant] He just has to not turn the ball over and be significantly better than he was the first time around. 120 yards passing leads to an L. It's gotta be better than that. Uh, our next topic talks about home field advantage. And McNuggets, you did a lot of research this week.


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[Assistant] Really last week, talking about how significant that advantage is, and I have to say, I got a peek at these numbers. I knew we'd been good at home. I was blown away at how good.


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[Assistant] I agree with you and I think the conversation we had earlier, cause like part two of this discussion after we showed the numbers was going to be, you know, did we prematurely bury the dog pound? Cause we did talk about on this show earlier this year about none of us were really huge proponents of it still being called the dog pound.


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[Assistant] See, I agree with you, Jason, and I also think that these kind of things have to happen organically.


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[Assistant] They don't go on forever. Like, they go on for the period of time that that era is underway. And to me that was the Hanford Dixon, Frank Minnifit, those were the dogs. And if you play well enough where you earn a nickname, don't go back to what you used to use.


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[Assistant] What's crazy is they've played five home games. Three of them have been wins by three touchdowns. Don't remember the last time that happened.


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[Assistant] I really don't. You'd have to go way, way, way back. And we're only halfway through.


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[Assistant] So they've got a lot more home games to go. Alright, uh, you mentioned in your lead, you're not gonna call it a must-win, you're calling it a gotta-have game. It's close. Yeah, there are levels to must-wins. I think you're right, there's one must-win. Is your season over if you lose? Right. That's a must-win. Clearly the season isn't over, but tell us why for you it's just a shade below that.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're taking our first break. It's brought to you by the fine folks at PCC Airfoils. When we come back, Coach Tyvis is going to tell us why one particular backup will be especially big on Sunday.


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[Assistant] One of the themes to this season for the Browns, and it's this way for many teams in the NFL, injuries. They've been hit particularly hard. A lot of key players have been hurt. One of the guys that we don't know his status on right now is Juan Thornhill.


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[Assistant] What if he can't go? How will the Browns fill that hole? For that, we throw it to Mikey McNuggets and our coach, Clifus Powell.


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[Assistant] Tyvis J. Back to you. Alright, McNuggets. Ty, thank you very much. Great stuff. When we come back, no fence riders. Who's gonna have more sacks in this game? Is it T.J. Watts? Or is it Miles Garrett? The panel discusses. The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show comes right back.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. We love to have fun while we're talking about the Browns matchups on this show. And one of the things we like to do is do that through vehicles, gains if you will. McNuggets has a very creative mind. He came up with no fence riders. And Michael, this is very simple. You throw out a statement and we give you a definitive one way or the other.


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[Assistant] Did he, did he tell us why he thought TJ would have more sacks?


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[Assistant] I went with Miles for the simple fact that I think he's found the top gear to his play. There was always, I felt, just a little something missing and it was usually the splash plays and the big moments.


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[Assistant] I don't see that missing anymore. He's playing at a defensive player of the year level. I know that for all the reasons we talked about, I think it's going to be an easier time for TJ to get home, but Miles plays big on Sunday.


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[Assistant] You're in good shape. You're usually winning the game. You're definitely not trailing big because there's no need to throw. I think it's going to be ugly and nothing's going to be easy against the Steelers defense, but I think


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[Assistant] I love Boltz earlier this week and he barely has-


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[Assistant] I know you had said earlier this week something like 35-3. See if you're still talking about that.


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[Assistant] Alright, very good. Let's do our pre-written headlines.


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[Assistant] Alright, here's my headline. It's a clean sweep. Well, I don't know how McNuggets is going on this one, but it's really odd that in the week that the Browns lose their starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] We're all optimistic. Browns get win from third starting quarterback this year. That is a kudos and testament to Kevin Stefanski. He's won with a lot of different quarterbacks during his brief tenure here in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] DTR steps up, beats the Steelers. I got a close one, a little more high scoring than Bull, but I think it stays right around the 30 point total. 17-13 Browns. I also think that it will take a big play by either the offense or the defense in the waning moments to pull it out. McNuggets, is it a clean sweep? 5-0?


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[Assistant] Anthony, you nailed it this week. You really did. You nailed it. Uh, very big football game. Of course we want to remind you that


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[Assistant] We're gonna recap this thing, really in real time. We do it every week, the final two minutes of the game. So at the two minute warning, find The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, type it into the YouTube search bar. It will take you there. I promise you, it will be some of the most fun,


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[Assistant] Plus, ba-da-da-da-da, you're lovin' him. Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] So obviously the biggest story of the day besides the loss is the injuries. You referenced it already. I think we're all going to be holding our breath to see what's going on. But the reality in terms of quarterback is that I thought DTR was actually playing okay until he got hurt. And then when he got hurt,


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[Assistant] The entire game fell apart from there and then every key guy after that just kept getting hurt. And DTR, it's possible he's gonna play this week, but I don't think a single quarterback has cleared con... Well, that's not true. Brock Purdy is the only quarterback that has cleared concussion protocol within the same week of an injury. So we'll hope. If not, it's gonna be Joe Flacco, Jason. Oh, dear God in heaven.


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[Assistant] It usually is a disaster. Yes. If you try a reverse, if you try a double reverse, it's a disaster. I, I, in general, love trick plays.


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[Assistant] And usually don't have a problem with Kevin Stefanski. I've almost never criticized him for trick plays. I hated this one because of A, what you said, it was obvious that they were doing something.


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[Assistant] I didn't like it, plus it wasn't blocked well. I thought it was a bad decision. Overall, people losing their minds every time there's a trick play, every time a trick play doesn't work is ridiculous. Of course, they're sometimes not gonna work.


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[Assistant] And when it doesn't, it looks bad. I think this one specifically is fair criticism when you make it a whole overarching thing that, oh, these trick plays, they never work. Yea, they do. You just forget the ones that do work.


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[Assistant] Jay, part of the reason I think they were able to run the ball so well, once they did get to it, because the first two drives, they weren't running the ball well, when they did run, it wasn't...


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[Assistant] Browns did good things in pivotal times against the Niners, the Bengals, the Steelers, and the Ravens this year. Game to game, boo.


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[Assistant] Okay, but you had, hold on, you had a good show, you had a good show yesterday. Yeaah. You gotta have a good show today too. Well, you, but you made it seem like, oh, every time in a big spot he blows it. Oh, there's lots of times when he blows it with those two players. Well, every coach blows it in a big spot sometimes and gets it right in a big coach, in a big spot sometimes. That's what I'm saying. Outside of maybe one or two coaches.


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[Assistant] Wow. And then in the end zone, he makes a great throw to Najoku, puts it only where he can get it. And he drops it. And then he made a great throw after, you know, a little trickery, by the way, to get Harris and Bryant open in the end zone. And he hits a mark. And he hit a Mark Cooper right in the hands for the two point conversion.


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[Assistant] If you look at the way DTR, and I know he was put in a tough situation, but if you look at the way he played that first game against Baltimore, to the way he played against Pittsburgh last week, to the way he played against Denver this week, I think he's made tremendous progress. I mean, I'm very impressed. He's far from a finished product, far, far, far, but there's some clay here to play with.


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[Assistant] And the Browns may have found something in this guy. At the very least, I think he's gonna be a good quality backup in the league. At the very least. And I think there's potential for a little more. We'll see. But I'm 100% playing him if he clears concussion protocol. There's no doubt in my mind.


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[Assistant] That's right. They still gotta have the Bears who are terrible. They still got the Jets who are terrible, and they still have the Bengals who are not very good without Borrow, obviously. In week 18. In week 18. Who knows what they're gonna look like then. And the Bengals defense looks like crap right now.


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[Assistant] On the other hand, they may only be down to quarterback four for one week. I mean, I'm not expecting DTR to miss the rest of the season. The biggest deal here is Amari Cooper and certainly Miles Garrett. If Miles Garrett has to miss the rest of the season, that's a disaster. They'll still probably win three games, I think.


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[Assistant] I think use his athleticism to get out of trouble. I think he's done that a number of times and I think every game


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[Assistant] I think he's done, I think he's shown a ton of promise. Arm strength.


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[Assistant] I will say, I think very important for him. I don't know how much he'll be able to do this. I think it's very important for him this offseason to put on some weight and bulk up a little bit.


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[Assistant] I agree with you, but I do think, to G's point, it is a benefit of that game plan, is because if you're gonna win in the playoffs, yeaah, you're gonna need your quarterback to be able to do a little more.


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[Assistant] What sucks, Mike, is that he seems to have an injury every year. That's, that kinda, it doesn't work, like he's not out for the year.


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[Assistant] But he, every year he gets unlucky and has a weird injury and then ends up being not as effective after that. I'm, I'm so worried. He's been so great this year. By the way, kudos to Garrett Bowles, who I wanted to browse the trade for. The Broncos left tackle, who I thought played Miles Garrett until his injury. Better than any left tackle had played against him all season.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the Browns need, for the Browns defense to maintain its greatness, which it has played at for the most part this season, they have to have not only Miles Garrett, they have to have a healthy Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] Because if he's at 50% and playing like just the regular Joe, their defense is still good, but it's not going to be special anymore. And the Browns can't win anything that matters without their defense being special. So this, with all the injuries, DTR and Amari Cooper, this is the injury that is the most meaningful right now.


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[Assistant] It's a fair question, but. We've already talked about the DTR injury, so no point on that now. The Denzel Ward injury, which happened obviously in the game before. I mean, that was a huge deal. Greg Newsom just got cooked. Exposed.


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[Assistant] Denzel Ward, you know, you talked about it, G. Well, we'll see what this defense looks like. You're going to learn without Myles Garrett. We already learned without Denzel Ward how important he is.


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[Assistant] By the way, on that girl, that first drive by the Broncos, and I don't usually complain about refs, and I thought the Browns got some beneficial calls later, and the Browns have gotten a ton of calls in their favor the last month, but I thought that was a terrible P.I. call on Newsom on that first possession.


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[Assistant] I thought he barely touched him and that was a huge play because that was third and ten and they ended up scoring a touchdown after that. The announce team didn't like it either if I remember that. No they did not.


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[Assistant] What was, what was really disappointing amongst, you know, kind of get lost, I think a little bit was after they scored that touchdown, they missed the two point conversion. Of course that was disappointing. It's 1412.


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[Assistant] By the way, if you just looked at the stats, which none of us did because we all watched the game, you would say Russell Wilson, I thought Russell Wilson played a hell of a game. He made plays and spots. Every time when he needed to, and he was diagnosing something, as you said, about the defense. That was him.


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[Assistant] 11 tackles, 2 for a loss, a sack, I thought he, did he have a sprint bubble too? He had the punch out. He had the punch out.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, well, Gervanthe Williams is finally getting healthy and he looked better, so Maji, P. Ryan ran very well. P. Ryan ran great. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] You're gonna have some issues. But you know, when a team's got a great quarterback, and maybe it's an unfair comparison because it's one player versus an entire defense, but when a team has a great quarterback, when you have Patrick Mahomes, you expect him to play great all the time. Sure. He doesn't always play great, but you expect it all the time. Well, the Browns have a great defense, so I expect them to play great all the time.


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[Assistant] Sure, Joe needs him. But DTR can't practice.


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[Assistant] Business. Was that the best game by a Browns third round wide receiver in three years? Well, that's not saying much, but it was. David Bell never had 60. I know Schwartz never had 60.


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[Assistant] You guys both made excellent points. I mean, we always talk about play call, you know, we always talk about the talent of the receivers, but we rarely talk about the chemistry between the quarterback and his receivers. And this has been a problem. I mean, look at Deshaun Watson has


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[Assistant] The whole year was not on the practice field much outside of the gate, you know, the first game. And, and, and there's been so many different moving parts on this Brown's offense, at least until a week or two ago, that wasn't the case on defense. Now it's become on defense as well.


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[Assistant] The moving parts on offense, that every part you change, even beyond the quarterback and the wide receiver, every part you change, a new offensive lineman, you talk about, well that guy's gonna block a little differently, he's gonna do this a little differently, and the Browns have had so much turnover on the offense, that, you know, eventually it catches up with you, and it certainly has.


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[Assistant] You're gonna feel so good going into the next year. Absolutely. Even though most of those questions will still be there. Right. But you might feel better, I mean, if they can, with all they've gone through this year, if they could win 10, 11 games, which I still think is very doable, uh, and make the playoffs, even if they get eliminated in the first round, uh, that would be pretty impressive. It would.


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[Assistant] By the way, even if they do win next week, we're not talking about home, there's no chance the Browns are playing a playoff game. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, that was terrible. Uh, and, and Browning was playing decently, and he threw that pick, the Bengals were up seven, or up three or whatever, and the ball. I actually wanted the Bengals to lose, because I wanted them to get a good draft pick, but.


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[Assistant] Even though I can't root for my team to lose, but it's better for them at this point because they can't go, they're not going to play it. And I want them to get a hydra epic.


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[Assistant] However, I do know this, that all that matters is beating Michigan and winning playoff games. That's all that matters. Any, I don't care. His, this is not the NFL where every game's up for debate as to who can win. His career record to me is meaningless. When you play the other teams in the Big Ten, that's like preseason football to me.


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[Assistant] That's like warming up for the season. The only games that matter.


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[Assistant] Are the college football playoffs and mostly Michigan. And since COVID, he's been awful. When he plays- Awful.


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[Assistant] Eric, I would love to know what Ryan Day's record is in games where the point spread is a touchdown or less.


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[Assistant] Most of those other wins, any coach could beat those teams.


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[Assistant] Um, outside of the building, we're always together. Greenbriar, we're always together. OTAs, everyone came right away. It wasn't a guy that didn't come. So, uh, we built a, we built a great camaraderie. And if I can compare it to a team that I've been on, honestly, it's probably my junior year at Northwestern.


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[Assistant] Uh, where, you know, we weren't the most talented there. We're really, really talented here. But, you know, just how close we were, we were able to carry ourselves, uh, to a great season. So, uhm, it's been amazing.


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[Assistant] Man, it was amazing. Uhm, all I say is man, all glory to God. At first, I didn't know I was going to be able to play. Honestly, uhm, I was hurt the whole week. I really didn't practice too much. But when I seen that ball in the air, it just slowed down. And uhm, I was like, this is the perfect time. Uhm, and a huge game for me to get my first pick six.


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[Assistant] Nah, for sure. Uhm, you know, Corey has been doing a great job just flipping the field and I don't think too many fans


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[Assistant] For sure in their D line, for sure in their secondary, like the Eagles. For them to draft, you know, in their first two picks in the first round, two defensive players.


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[Assistant] I feel like there is no ceiling. Uhm, we take it one week at a time, obviously. Uhm, we just keep trying to perfect our craft each week, but as long as we're tight and as long as we're playing together, we have no ceiling.


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[Assistant] And I'm Mikey McNuggets and the battle in the trenches between the Browns offensive line and the Bears defensive line is going to be a matchup to keep an eye on when kickoff comes around on Sunday.