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[Assistant] Cause you'll get a couple people. You know how it is when ESPN or some of the NFL network. There's gonna be some former player. Uh, shout out to Ryan Clark. I can't


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[Assistant] Okay, three days ago. So yeaah, he about to- You scared me there for a sec. Great negotiation, Ryan Clark. I loved that. Worst than I thought.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, so you know, when we look at it, there'll be some guys that are going to say that played in the league, ah, you don't forget to dare to stuff, but this guy's playing lights out. And I will give him this, he is a quarterback.


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[Assistant] Quarterbacks have a way, and I'll give it to Bull too. Bull says this. If Deshaun Watson comes out and he's playing lights out.


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[Assistant] There'll be more people in Cleveland than I get on board, and that'll help block out some people. Well, that always is the case. If you win...


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[Assistant] You know, the problem I got with the Cavs is, if you say anything remotely


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[Assistant] Like, constructive or, or neutral or negative, they just fold up.


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[Assistant] Oh my gosh, why would you say that to us? We had 51 wins last year. Like, the GM apologizes for them.


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[Assistant] Uh, JB just apologizes for him all the time. Like, like, and it's annoying to me. That man sits up there and he yells at the ref on every single call the whole game.


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[Assistant] Then he gets in the huddle and can't draw out of bounds plays. Then you can't get in the huddle and come up with a way to get a good shot and stop the bleeding. My thing about JB and the thing about the Cavs, and I've been saying it because I've watched pretty much every single Cavs game this year.


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[Assistant] I told McNuggets. Oh, you got DirecTV? Man, I got all the packages. All of them. I got Bally's snaps. Don't tell my wife. She's already questioning me on some other stuff. Gee, why is our cable bill $900?


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[Assistant] Even the rotations, why is Sam Merrill not playing? He's one of the best lethal jump shooters in the game. But you still keep trying these little rotations and I don't want to see Evan Mobley and Jared Allen playing no more. That's why half the reason, they cancel each other out.


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[Assistant] You're not using your best, why is George Ne'ang not playing? What's up with your rotations? And the elephant in the room is this.


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[Assistant] And I'm just telling you. Wait, he bald last game. Listen, let me tell you this. 7 for 14 from Trey. That's dope. That's great. That's dope. What buckets was he getting on the other end?


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[Assistant] And, and he throws- Well that's, anybody that's a small guard is a defensive liability. Hey, hey, hey, he throw the ball, basketball more away than we throw money at FanDuel away. Don't do that. He just-


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[Assistant] I'ma get a good look at him. Cause, Mikey, what's they schedule coming up?


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[Assistant] Hold on, hold on. We didn't see that last year. And that could be, that could be worse, Mcnuggets. You saying Darius is, when he gonna give you the regular season, this is the scary part. They're not blitzing yet.


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[Assistant] And what I'm telling you is he's not going to play at that level when Donovan Mitchell was there. Because if you play both of them at the same time,


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[Assistant] It's like, you could just watch them. Think about this. And this is what happens in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] They're gonna force a switch on a pick and roll, McNuggets. You know that. If whoever dare is garlin' his garden,


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[Assistant] He's slight of build, and if he's not aggressive and he's not knocking down three point shots, he's a ball stopper. Right? So you can't play both of those guys at the same time. But the problem is, JB don't have the heart to do that.


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[Assistant] He don't, the organization does not have the heart to go to him and say look man.


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[Assistant] We like what you did, you still a max player, but we gotta revamp what you do, like, because this doesn't fit.


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[Assistant] He pounds the basketball and he plays ring around the rosy under the basket. And then when he gets trapped, he throws the ball and he gets tipped. He's too loose with the ball. My thing is this, a good coach, a solid coach, they do whatever they need to do to get it done.


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[Assistant] Timbs would have been like, no, no, no, come sit by me real quick. JB, he's the dad that wants his kids to be his friends. He wants to be his friend, they want to go out and have fun. Guys night out, no, them's your kids. At some point in time, JB's going to have to make some tough decisions and say, yeah, I like you.


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[Assistant] I got Sam Merrill who is not hesitating off that Pick and Roll McNuggets. Naughty, mighty Bates. No, no, no, listen, we talk for real talk. G. Bush talk for real talk today. If you, if you, if you messing around and you can't go, if you wanna hesitate over the screen,


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[Assistant] I got Sam Merrill, who will come off screens, and I got Max Deuce in the corner. And I got Isaac O'Coro in the corner. And Isaac is shooting about 40% from the corner.


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[Assistant] Now I got spread guys out where you can't help off none of them. You can't help off none of them dudes. What do you say to that?


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[Assistant] Because here's the thing, McNuggets, when they swing it, the ball not gonna stick. See, if I got, if I got, if I got Darius Garland in the game, they swing it to him, he catch the ball, guess what he gonna do first? Dribble.


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[Assistant] Now you're stuck. What I'm saying, what I'm saying is, if somebody is showing you, if somebody is showing you, I'm hitting, Sam Mero, I'm hitting 45% of my threes. I'm hitting 40, mid forties, off the catch and shoot. If he's showing you that and Darius is struggling,


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[Assistant] I blitz, I blitz Donovan Mitchell. I get the ball out of his hands and I tell them.


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[Assistant] Let Darius Garland beat us. And I'm putting a bigger body on him. New York is able to do that. They could have a bigger, more physical guard on him.


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[Assistant] They, they got length. A lot of these teams got length and that's the thing that, that really hurts his, his ability to score and get to the basket. For me, I put it all on his shoulders. I said, listen, we're not gonna let Donovan beat us. Daris Garland gonna have to hit for 40 a game.


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[Assistant] To me, it's not about the wins and losses. To me,


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[Assistant] It's identifying a style of play that you can win with and that is your identity. When you are trying to do the team approach, because the Cavs are trying to be a team approach, they don't, they're not going to go into that series with the best two players in that series.


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[Assistant] They don't have the, they don't have the talent, uh, built over the bucks. They sure as heck don't have it over the Celtics. They don't have it over the Knicks. They don't have it over some of these teams that they want to beat. So what they have to do is they got to establish a way that they're going to play.


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[Assistant] And that is, it is one through ten, we play this way. When the bench guys come in, they play this way. And we gonna live and die with that.


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[Assistant] Right now, there's no consistent rotation, they don't have an identity they want to play with, and it's too helter skelter. I don't know.


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[Assistant] And Donovan is running that same type of energy, but the four, the four I won in, let's, let's run that with me too.


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[Assistant] So we can figure out whether that's with me and Mobley and some shooters, but they gotta figure that out in these next 10-12 games, man.


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[Assistant] He ain't there to just look cute on the sidelines. The coaches is to get the best out of the individual players in a team atmosphere. So that's what they need to do. Find out a way to get Darius going. It's not up to Darius to just put himself back in the game and get it going. The coach is supposed to figure a way. Remember when Cassius played with Kevin Love and Kyrie?


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[Assistant] By the way, who's, who's, who's turning into one of my favorite players.


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[Assistant] He was not in the ESPNU Top 100. He was ranked number 66th coming out.


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[Assistant] Didn't they have a dude that used to have an afro named Porter?


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[Assistant] I think they got a silver that year.


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[Assistant] 500 points. Times how many games is that? 82. So that's looking like what, 4 points a game? No.


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[Assistant] That, woah, do you not see, like, like, Ananobe is coming back, uh, uh, Hardenstein is out here ballin', like, uh,


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[Assistant] When you say twenty two thousands, what did that go up to? The year two thousand to now. Oh, okay. First and foremost, first and foremost, where is Manziel at?


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[Assistant] EG and Earl, I don't think nobody is on this panel.


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[Assistant] I think, I think, I think y'all hope that he will, but y'all not. If y'all was a betting person, y'all wouldn't.


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[Assistant] 2020 level Deshaun. I think it's still in there. Okay. Cause I haven't seen it for three years. But he has given you glimpses.


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[Assistant] I think he's had moments where I was like, he still got it. It just hasn't been consistent.


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[Assistant] I stay at door. This is nuts. Yeaah. Tell em why, tell em why.


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[Assistant] Alright, listen ladies and gentlemen, this is why I don't believe in vacation or rest or none of that stuff because I think that if I take a day off,


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[Assistant] I'm opening up the door for somebody else to get an opportunity to come in here and replace


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[Assistant] I understand, but I'm just telling you why people call you haters now. Cause you went from that to like, but it's not, but keeping it real is not being a hater. And you know, in today's society, people can't handle when you keep it real. So there you go.


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[Assistant] I mean, it was a really good day. I mean, I always wanted to know, was it the guaranteed money that made him say? Of course. What do you think?


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[Assistant] That everybody was like, go after Jimmy Garoppolo. Wasn't he like a freak?


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[Assistant] He was. And he had no leverage. None. There were no other options. I mean.


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[Assistant] I just can't remember, I can't think back. It was an option that other people wanted, but I just can't remember who it was off the top of my head.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. I was, listen, I thought about, because when I looked at Kevin Stefanski's offense,


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[Assistant] I'm like, I'm thinking about the bootlegs, and I'm like, man, if Baker made this work.


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[Assistant] And Baker's not even mobile like that. Deshaun would be even a bigger threat. And he's, he's one of the best, at the time, he was one of the best deep ball throwers in the game. So I'm like, oh man, he can really open up this offense and take it to another level. You know, you come out of that play action and you're on a bootleg.


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[Assistant] To have that option to either throw it or run and get the yards. Like for a defender, that's, that's putting you in a bind. Like do I go here or do I stay back? Stay back for smart defenders. You just always play deep to short. But it puts them in that bind. So I thought he would be perfect coming in here and then...


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[Assistant] Suspensions happen and now he don't want to be under the gun. I mean, he want to play out of shotgun. So it's just been a whole bunch of stuff that's kind of watered it all down.


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[Assistant] Well, you remember when the season started,


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, initially, the ladies gave him three, right? Or two. What'd she give him? Six. No, the initial was six? The initial was six.


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[Assistant] Oh, I was at home. I was at home. I was, I remember because I have friends.


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[Assistant] And then that comes down and I see it and I send it to the group chat like, oh my goodness, this man, we got D-Watch, huh? And it just was a, it was a moment where everybody was just happy like, wait, don't get me wrong, everybody was cool with Baker.


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[Assistant] And a lot of people was fans of D-Wyatt, but even in the Texas, like everybody was like, oh, he's better than Baker. So when we got him. There was no doubt in terms of talent between the two at the time. Yeah, but you know.


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[Assistant] You asked the Baker Rose, that's a lie. But I just remember everybody being excited about it, but I was at home when I got that, when I seen it. I read it on Twitter. Big moment. Big moment. Man. Man oh man. Man, I hope it pans out. I really do.


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[Assistant] So when they made the trade, my expectation was,


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[Assistant] At the time, Patty Mahomes was still, was becoming the man. He was, at the time, he was-


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[Assistant] So I thought, I judged it off, can this quarterback go toe to toe with Patty Mahomes and I think Tom Brady was still playing at the time. Can he go toe to toe with these guys? And my answer was absolutely he can. I know he had the debacle when they played the Chiefs in the playoffs and they ended up blowing the lead. Yea, all of that. But he showed that he still had the talent to do it.


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[Assistant] You asked me today, can Deshaun Watson go toe to toe with Patti Mahomes? And that's where it gets a little hairy because


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[Assistant] I think he still has some talent to do that. However, what Patti Mahomes has done, the Joe Flacco thing kinda messed up a lot because Joe came in here with the same receiving chords and just went banana sweetie. Made it just work like that.


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[Assistant] To me, it's like, well, why didn't Deshaun do that? You tell the true success or the measurement of a quarterback is, can he make the people around him better?


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[Assistant] And why was Joe able to do that, but Deshaun kinda struggled a little bit. So that's where it's a little, it's a question mark. He needs to figure out why that was the case. Because he had us thinking like,


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[Assistant] These guys aren't, maybe they're not that good. And then Joe comes in here and now they look unbelievable. So he needs to get that type of measurement or get back to playing like that to be able to compete with a Patty Mahomes because Patty Mahomes did it with just Travis Kelsey and a bunch of Travis Kelsey and the guys. I mean, his second best player was a


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[Assistant] Right, so I want Deshaun to get to that level where he can, it didn't, it doesn't matter who's out there. If it's Cedric Tillman and David Bale, he can still make it work. David Bale scored three touchdowns with Joe Flacco, so it can work.


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[Assistant] I think that that's the level I want him to get back to.


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[Assistant] I feel like anybody can. If you've done it before and you've had glimpses and moments, it's just you have to figure out how can I consistently be at that moment. And it's just, he's had injuries and the suspension and all of these other things. I just need to see him for 17 games. At this point, I need to see 17 games of what you look like and then I'll be able to make a judgement. Because right now,


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[Assistant] Whether you like it or not, it's built in excuses. You had time off, you were suspended for 11 games. The year after that you got hurt. Like you had the shoulder thing, you had the ankle thing. So it's like built in excuses to where I can't really give a grade on him because I need to see him for 17 games to truly assess if he's going to be that guy or not.


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[Assistant] Well I tell you what, they, they all speak highly of him. They have to. And I'm not saying they don't believe it. They very well could believe it. But they're not half them.


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[Assistant] True. I mean, they just would decline. They just would decline to talk. I don't know. Like, I just think that Deshaun brings a-


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[Assistant] I think Deshaun, I think Deshaun brings an energy to the building. Like I don't know necessarily.


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[Assistant] How great he is, but I know when he's out there, some people, a lot of players believe in his ability.


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[Assistant] And because they see it in practice, you know, if he making these throws, like I told y'all last year, when I went to practice, he was phenomenal. He looked amazing in practice. So that's where the confidence in the locker room is coming from because they seen it. Now that he's coming off of injuries, it's like,


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[Assistant] I gotta see it again. Like if I was playing for the Cleveland Browns right now and I was a wide receiver, I'd be like, dude, I gotta see it. Like I need to, we need to, you ain't even started throwing, which I think you set to throw this week. Once we start throwing again, I need to see if you still got a zip on your ball. Can you still get the ball where I want it at? And then I'll be able to make those assessments. But to your point, it could be like,


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[Assistant] Murky right now because you don't know what you're getting. I don't know how it's not.


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[Assistant] The interesting thing is, when we had D'Anthony Bell on, he kinda touched on it a little bit, where he was like,


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[Assistant] Deshaun is a guy who's one of the most locked in guys I've ever seen, where he kind of blocks out a lot of the noise. And I could see that, but he was saying that.


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[Assistant] The more, the more years that passes by where he's getting further away from it, it's going to be more easier for him to lock in. It's impossible for somebody to go through what he went through and not have it in your mind at some point.


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[Assistant] But as time goes by, it continuously gets pushed further back in your mind and now you're able to focus. Which is true. That's very true. So, it's interesting to see now that it's two years removed.


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[Assistant] How much further mentally can he be? Can he, can he lock it? Cause he's on the podcast talking about we got all the pieces to go to the Super Bowl, like you're the biggest piece that they need.


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[Assistant] I agree with that statement. I do. I think, but I think he will play


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[Assistant] I'm not saying he's gonna go out there and break like 5,000, 6,000 yards like G. Bush, but I think he will have a very productive season this year. Because, like I say, I think he was just catching his rhythm. You know, in those last couple of games, even though the Baltimore first half started off bad, I think he was still catching his rhythm.


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[Assistant] Obviously it's gonna be hard to just come right out the gate and just be right where you were. It's gonna take some time.


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[Assistant] Jesus, I'm sorry for saying that, but I think it's going to take some time, but I think by week four or five, like.


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[Assistant] It's a lot of, it's three guys on the roster that I can think of off the top of the head. That's kind of dependent on him this year. Cool.


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[Assistant] Like I need you to get right this season so I can get paid. You got paid and we've been behind you supporting you this whole time. Everybody talk negative about you. I stopped them from doing that. Like now I need you to look out for me. I'm trying to get paid this year. So I'm hoping that that


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[Assistant] He comes into a play and he has that on his mind. Like, you know what? These guys ride for me. I will make sure that I do everything I can to be in the best situation, to be the best version of myself so they can get paid. Mike?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I said we, we kinda all agreed that they needed another arm for Cam and OTAs and I said that it also is a motivation factor for DTR because if you go out there thinking, oh, I'm gonna be on the roster. You're pushing him for that, for that third spot.


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[Assistant] Go! Go on vacation! When you type as Paula and draft it, there is no such thing as vacation.


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[Assistant] I'm not all, all about the operations stockpile. He tell you, yeah, 100% they should be interested. My thing is...


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[Assistant] All three of them was on contracts like I said before.


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[Assistant] If you brought in Stefan Diggs, one,


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[Assistant] He would kind of mess up Coop and Judy because we know Stefan Diggs is a high volume.


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[Assistant] I think it takes it away from Coop and Judy from being able to find out what they're going to be. Obviously you want to have more weapons on the team and more weapons meaning that you don't have to worry about all these double teams because you got guys that can make plays everywhere. But I just don't think that he would fit right now because of the fact that they want to


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[Assistant] They kind of owed Cooper, they want to do right by Coop, and I think they want to give Judy the benefit of the doubt. So I don't think that they will make that trade for those reasons because of the fact that he's a high value.


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[Assistant] Can he come here and be successful? Absolutely. He's a really good player. Even though he kind of slumped down at the end of last season. But he's still a really good player. Can he be effective with D.Y.? Absolutely. But I just don't think that they will make that trade because of the fact that they want to try to pay Coop, Judy and more.


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[Assistant] Like the offense is okay, like all those other guys are okay, but get me the ball. Which is what you want. You wanna be, you gotta have that confidence in yourself.


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[Assistant] And I think he had like no targets in the first half. In the second half, he destroyed us. So, he was right. That's the thing. He'd be right about it.


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[Assistant] He never vocally said he wanted to be trained.


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[Assistant] With today's medicine and the new rules in the NFL, they should play forever.


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[Assistant] Didn't he like 31? And he had a pretty good C1. Who they quarterback? They traded for guard of the ministry, didn't they?


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[Assistant] No, I think it's, yeaah, it's one of those things that we're gonna work him out and see if he's still got it. And if he can, we'll cool. He'll be a nice practice squad guy. We'll work him through the rest of the season. If he becomes really good from getting it back in shape and getting back in game shape, we can always activate him for a game, give us another pass.


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[Assistant] True, but, but listen, how cool would it be if I, if I played and I still came on, I came on on my, wait, you off on Tuesdays, Tuesdays I roll up in here and sit down, be like, what's your, I tell you what's going on in the locker room. No you wouldn't. No I wouldn't.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to remember, I think he, I feel like he was, uh, one of the, he was a rotational piece, but I don't remember him being like...


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[Assistant] Like great or anything like that. You know what I remember about him? I remember he got mad about a contract thing and then he ended up leaving after the season. It was the year we went like 4 and 12 or something like that and I remember him saying, yea, I'm outta here.


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[Assistant] Delias has had a really good offseason. You know they got DJ Reader.


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[Assistant] No, he went to La Tech, didn't he? The corner?


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[Assistant] I mean if that's, because the only way logically I think you make that trade is that you know T. Higgins, you know what he is in the NFL. Other guys you, you know that in the draft it's always a crap shoot. You never know who's going to pan out who's not.


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[Assistant] I'm not, I'm not big on bold nicks. No.


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[Assistant] Drake may can't win games, but what I learned is that they didn't win big games in college. They tend to win games in the NFL, which is weird to me.


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[Assistant] Like CJ Stroud, he lost a lot of big games in college, but he does well in the NFL. I don't know what that's about.


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[Assistant] I thought he needed to stay for another year, but I also know why he left.


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[Assistant] Oh heck, broke loose with Greenback. Yep.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. He seems like he comes off as that type of person.


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[Assistant] Dynamic off the bench. 23 and 11. He. Yeaah. He had like 8 assists or 8 rebounds. Yeaah. He, I mean, I was wondering who was the backup pointer. I mean, you got a guy like that that's facilitating and hitting like that. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] No, I'm talking about as far as hot and cold. JR could be hot. JR could just shoot it from the yard and he still gonna make it. But when he cold, he ain't gonna do nothing.


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[Assistant] Over. It better be. First of all, my boy Chris Shaw bet with Chris on IG. He told me not to bet with the Cavaliers. He said anytime I put a parlay together and I put the Cavs on there, he said the problem is that I'm using my feelings over facts.


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[Assistant] He can't. Him and DeJontay Murray will never see it. Never.


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[Assistant] So it was Markeith. I thought it was him.


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[Assistant] When you look at it, when you look at the season, it's like...


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[Assistant] Donovan got that, he got that dog in him when it's like, game on the line, give me the ball, and if y'all don't want to do it, y'all don't want to win, give me the ball, I'll win it for us. I don't think they got that guy right outside of him.


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[Assistant] How do you know it's not Roy? Mike, Mike, he almost got hung on a dunk. I'm not hearing it.


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[Assistant] Listen, I tell you, I dropped this, I dropped a good 15 pounds, and uh, you know what, I think I am gonna start doing drills again, just for a night.


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[Assistant] To try to make a comeback, but just to be in shape again. I think I'm gonna start getting my cliques back out and start doing drills and stuff.


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[Assistant] That's a fact. I would, well, he ain't finishing well this year, but the turnover, he only take care of the football when I got a hundred grand on the, oh yea, the basketball. What I got when I'm about to win a hundred grand, that's the only time.


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[Assistant] You gotta have the other two parts of the government that agrees.


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[Assistant] Check it out. Tokyo Vice. Oh, I meant to tell everybody. I went out. So, you know, I, Buckeye Cruise. Yeah. I did, they auctioned my, me off. Yeah. Auctioned you off. Auctioned you off. What?


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[Assistant] You know what's funny? Everybody at the table ordered filets. Everybody. Which are skinny people.


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[Assistant] Team Earl, what do you think about the signing? I like the signing. I think you get a veteran runner back that, uh, fits that, you know, short yardage goal line mold.


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[Assistant] He got 17 career total touchdowns. I think he's somebody that will step in and immediately compete to be the browse number two.


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[Assistant] Running back is somebody that can step in and be a lead back in the event that Nick Chubb is not healthy and ready to go at the start of the year.


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[Assistant] Anywhere he's been throughout his career, he's been highly productive when given the opportunity. Uhm, he was paired with Deuce Staley.


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[Assistant] And Carolina had some success there. So two years ago, the only thing, uh, he did suffer an Achilles injury. I know me and Mike talked about this, maybe I think two or three seasons ago, but outside of that, he doesn't have many carries on him, less than 600 career carry. So I really, really like this.


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[Assistant] Looked at it like, okay, maybe the brows have some concerns and instead of trying to get ready, they make sure they are ready.


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[Assistant] Like, you know, we talked last year a lot about having contingency plans, and I think Andrew Berry is doing his due diligence across the board to make sure I got enough players at X, Y, and Z positions just in case. Uhm, this way you don't even have to rush Nick Chubb back, right?


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[Assistant] The pairing of Jerome Ford and Deontay Foreman is much better in production or will be much better in production than Hunt and Ford was last year. So I think that this gives you an opportunity to kind of let, let you just bring Nick Chubb along at his proper pace or whatever the case may be. Um, I think this is cool. It definitely ended the, uh, the end of Kareem's life.


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[Assistant] Pretty similar, but like we all know Kareem Hunt's yards to carry and the yards that he put forth, like it wasn't all that. So I just think this gives you another productive running back that you compare with Jerome Ford until Nick Chubb is healthy and then it gives you a solid


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[Assistant] The first thing I guess I thought about this is a running back for December in January. This is a good running back to have for December in January.


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[Assistant] I was going to ask about that because you can rehab all day long and you can go through all the drills and all the camps but, and so you actually get out there in a real game.


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[Assistant] So let me ask y'all both a question. So if, if Chubb starts the season on the Pup list, you think Ford will beat out Foreman for a running back one position? Yes.


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[Assistant] I don't know, you never know. I mean, Ken Dorsey is in here with Kevin.


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[Assistant] No, absolutely not. I think from the start of free agency into now and not just with the Cleveland Browns, I think what we really noticed was general managers looked at the running back class that's coming out this year and said, this is a very weak class. I think I've read articles, I've seen my drafts to where the first running back


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[Assistant] And so I think the emphasis on free agent running backs this year, that's probably why it seemed like it was an elevated priority. And it's probably why they got two, three million dollars annually more.


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[Assistant] Then they probably would have in the past, not just because of the salary cap going up. And so like, I don't think that the browser's gonna be looking at a running back at all. You know, I think that, that's, that's shit for sale.


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[Assistant] I think one of the things that I always wanted to see the Cleveland Browns do was kind of like mirror how the Pittsburgh Steelers build out their rosters.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and what I mean by that is, let's use Alex Wright for example, right? Well, Alex Wright was drafted two years ago.


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[Assistant] This was the one pick that Kevin Stefanski, Andrew Berry said that everybody in the building was in agreeance on. It felt like he was a young raw talent, but he wasn't ready to play right away.


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[Assistant] And you sign a guy like Zedaria Smith, who's a veteran, who's had a lot of success over 41 sacks, uh, over the last four or five years.


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[Assistant] To be an immediate productive player but to also be a teacher to this young dude. And so what I think the Browns are trying to do is trying to make sure that you get these guys that are young talented guys that might not be ready to play yet.


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[Assistant] But you got some veterans that can produce for you immediately and be teachers and tutors to these younger players so that when it's time,


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[Assistant] These guys can step up and take over that, take over that role.


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[Assistant] I think we all agree with that. I think the Browns are past that. Like, we're not...


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[Assistant] Man, I said that dude was gonna have like 1600 all purpose yards last year. Remember, I had him for like a thousand yards receiving. I had him for like another 400 yards.


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[Assistant] My homeboy, former NFL wide receiver Cecil Shortz is going to join me tonight. Uh, we're going to have a very, very spirited conversation about mental health. We're going to talk about Cecil growing up in Cleveland, what it felt like to be drafted into the NFL. Cecil was one of them dudes who, you know, his career was snatched away from him.


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[Assistant] We're going to talk about the Dole's Dark Days, but the comeback as well, the physical and the mental comeback, and then we're going to finally address the rumors. So he's a Collingwood real roader.


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[Assistant] Now we done had Coach Ted Gaines Sr. from the Glee of the Utah Blooders on our set, on our show before. There's always been rumors that Cecil was close.


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[Assistant] So, it should be a fun show. If you a Cleveland native, a Collawood railroader, I encourage you man to tune in and pull up. This is going to be fun.


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[Assistant] First, there was a one guy, I think his name was Amari Jordan. He played defensive tackle. He actually played for the Carolina Panthers for a while.


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[Assistant] We played basketball, played baseball a little bit. Cecil's a better Hooper than he is Hooper. Oh really? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] So for me, my hometown homerism bias was like, you damn.


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[Assistant] But the Browns didn't lose anybody that played a significant role, uh, as far as production wise on the defensive line last year, and then you add a guy like Quentin Jefferson. Miles Garrett, as you noted, anchors this defensive line, reigning defensive player of the year, was the top-graded


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[Assistant] Uh, Harris and, and Tomlinson, all of those dudes finished with a password's grade of between 75.


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[Assistant] And 72, it's not the best, but it's not the worst that you've seen at all. And you, you could, you put that together with the addition of Quentin Jefferson, who had like a 75.3 pass rush grade itself.


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[Assistant] Then yeaah, I can see why the Cleveland Browns will be considered the number one overall pass for a team in the NFL. And if they're not number one, they're definitely in the conversation for top two or three.


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[Assistant] What if they have the Browns, number one, because all of these other defenses, maybe Baltimore will be going into a new defensive system. They lost ADC last year.


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[Assistant] But the way I had it, they might have looked at the Cleveland Browns last year and said, damn, they produced this level in year one in this defense. Now they got all these dudes coming back and they going into year two of this defense.


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[Assistant] So maybe that was the thinking behind ranking the Cleveland Browns number one. Right. And then the Ravens did lose their defensive coordinator. They do have some dudes that still unsigned and they lost Patrick Queen and I'd unlike the Cleveland Browns to where the linebackers are not really.


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[Assistant] Highlight it like that, as far as your past rushers, that might be the case with the Baltimore Ravens. And losing Patrick Queen can hurt.


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[Assistant] What's the rotational pass rush you guys drafted from Texas a couple years ago?


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[Assistant] First of all, the Browns are not the only team going to Brazil. So how can the NFL be actively trying to screw over the Browns?


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[Assistant] And so these are two teams that, that's in the same situation. So how was one team being screwed over the other night? I think people are looking at this glass half empty instead of glass half full.


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[Assistant] It'd be very cool for the Cleveland Browns to be one of the first two teams to ever play a game in Brazil. That's something that's going to be etched in NFL history and that in the city you can always go back and point to. But instead of looking at it and putting a positive spin on it, that you're going to be showcased in front of the entire world.


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[Assistant] Like, you're looking at it like somebody trying to screw you over. Like, just change those, change the thought process.


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[Assistant] Everybody be in those situations and typically like Tyva said, if you play like, especially if you play out of the country, you would assume.


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[Assistant] I thought when he was in uh, when he was in Brooklyn, you could see the potential. And you like me, you play 2K a lot. And I know comparing a video game to real life, just hear me out. But when you play 2K a lot, right, and you look at all this stuff, I think it's potential.


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[Assistant] So like those little things always go off in my head. I can't speak for everybody else.


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[Assistant] But to see Jared Allen take a massive step forward from the end of the playoffs against the New York Knicks to where he has now showed me that he really cared about how the Cavaliers exited.


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[Assistant] He really, he really cared about his performance and he wanted to be better than what he was last year.


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[Assistant] He clearly put the work in in the off season. Uhm, you can always tell that he had double, double potential. I think the thing that's very impressive to me is the consistency of Jared Allen this year. I've seen Jared Allen have a 20-20 game and then turn around and have a 7-5 game.


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[Assistant] On a more consistent basis, it tells me everything I need to know about his mentality, his work ethic, and just the want to be better than what he was before. This is a dude who's like, as you said, in the absence of Kevin Mobley has really taken advantage of the opportunities given to him to showcase just how good he can be.


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[Assistant] Right? And the fact that he sees the moment and hasn't wasted it, you can't do anything but take your cap to that dude. You know what's funny?


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[Assistant] But Mike, isn't BAM like the number two option on his team? Like, I think-


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[Assistant] Like, like, like here in Cleveland, I mean, he's been a defecto number two option due to injury. Yeah. But in a perfect world, he's probably scoring option number four. You see what I'm saying? So.


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[Assistant] But I think the perception is, he's a former athlete, so why should he act like that? And I tell people all the time, Tyvis is a man first, and he from Cleveland, and that's just what it is, but...


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[Assistant] So like you said, you know, he should have thick skin, right? I tell y'all all the time, I feel like a lot of people forget that these athletes, when they play in the NBA, NFL, MLB, that's their job.


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[Assistant] That's their occupation. A lot of fans forget that these men and women are human beings. They got feelings too. You know, they got things that they go through outside of their profession on a day to day basis, right? And I ain't never played in the NBA, but every Thursday when I, when I leave here, I'm not going to be here for overtime. Y'all know that every Thursday I go to therapy.


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[Assistant] Like, mental health is important, and I tell people all the time, I be feeling like the most accomplished, incomplete person walking around.


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[Assistant] Right? And I know how it feels to...


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[Assistant] The Darius Garland take I had, for example. People tore me apart about it. And I remember about a week after that, I was going through something with my daughter.


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[Assistant] And I just jumped on social media and I seen somebody say something crazy to me. Seven days later.


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[Assistant] About something I said about a tape, and they're thinking that I'm always locked into this mind of...


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[Assistant] The point that I'm making is I think a lot of fans, a lot of people assume these athletes make multi-millions of dollars and because of that, that they don't go through anything or they should just sit back and take whatever behavior that people want to dish out to them and then don't do anything about it. And I think that's crazy. So for him to say, you know, he feel like a prop.


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[Assistant] I'll say this too, and you kinda touched on this, if you got pissed off at a player or coach or team,


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[Assistant] That mean that you was betting some money and trying to win some money that you thought was fit to change your life. That you was banking on life changing money. And if you really sitting up here trying to turn $10 into 50 million, you fooling yourself. All you gotta do is get off your ass, work hard.


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[Assistant] Man, I'm still pissed about that blown 3-1 lead. That, that still hurt.


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[Assistant] He was always hurt there. He was always hurt, but it was just like, man, throw something at him. So this was tough for me, man. I'm not the biggest baseball dude, but when I thought about the question more and more. Shit, Rajah Davis. No, I said Omar Viscale. Oh, that's a great one. And let me tell you why I said Omar. I grew up a fan of those teams in the 90s.


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[Assistant] And I remember I used to be able to list off, you know, the whole starting lineup. And we often talk about,


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[Assistant] The power hitters, the dudes who always hit a bunch of home runs. But Omar was great defensively, and he was great in small ball.


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[Assistant] He can turn a single, an infield single and get down the line. He was always a dude that was still in the base in the crucial moments. And so it was the little things that he did that always had.


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[Assistant] Huge payoff. It made the biggest difference that always made me like Omar.


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[Assistant] But like when you talk about greatest guardians or Indians players or especially the players at that time, we talk about the home run hitters, we talk about Manny, we talk about Jim Tomey and Carlos Bayaga and Albert Bell and all those dudes, but Omar played a significant role and the Indians having success during those times.


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[Assistant] I'm starting to feel like because... Did the A's go to Vegas? Not yet. I'm starting to feel like because uhm...


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[Assistant] Like, I'm a huge Ronald Okunha fan, right? So when Atlanta came in, I had to go see my boy.


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[Assistant] The one thing I did, uh, I've been going back listening to some of Stephen Vogt's interviews. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm not a die hard fan, but once we get close, I get interested even more. And one of the things he talked about was having the hitters be more aggressive, taking more swings early on in the count and things like that. And to me, I'm so used to Tito and the small ball approach and the old school way of doing things.


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[Assistant] I am partially excited just to see what we're gonna look like under new leadership. Yeaah, I'm excited about that too.


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[Assistant] Like, I, it's been a while since we had a different skipper in here. So, we'll see how, I said skipper.


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[Assistant] But that's part of what the conversation, that's part of the conversation we was talking about earlier. Sometimes man, we don't even mean no harm. And we just trying to have some fun and good faith. But like clearly stuff like that.


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[Assistant] This is my thing, people be like, man, you showing your emotions if you respond to something that somebody negative say to you, but nobody says that when I respond to something positive. I respond to both. That's my thing.


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[Assistant] I just don't want nobody thinking that I'm too full of myself or I'm beyond, like I didn't got to a point to where I'm too good to respond to people.


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[Assistant] Uh, in between, that's when I was, had a regular full time job and 92 through the fan is my part time job as it still is now. And I remember hearing the tease and the first thing I said to myself is,


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[Assistant] Bull is about to leave. Didn't even know it. Fun fact though, this is like, I'll just tell you guys the truth. The first day I ever met Bull was his last day at the fan. Right?


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[Assistant] I won't, and so like at that time at 92.3 the fan, a lot of the new hires at the time like myself had not seen the regulars in like a year, year and a half, something like that.


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[Assistant] So when he came back, it was, he did a show and I just happened to be working, uh, Chico at the Dark at the time. I walked in the studio and Bull shook my hand. What I found out was Bull don't shake hands with people. And so like people made a big deal that he shook my hand.


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[Assistant] Come to find out, when I interviewed for the job, Steve Becker told me Adam Nabool was one of the people who vouched for you, and I told him, I met Nabool once, at that time it was twice in person. Did you vouch for him?


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[Assistant] Man, I probably dropped the ball with the Cecil thing. Cause Collingwood did have a stretch in the 90s to where the basketball team was one of the best. Shout out to Coach Vanna, man. Coach Vanna was like one of my favorite people ever, like in life. Very, very good man, cared about you as a person. And then Collingwood's girls track team won like five straight state championships. And Sabrina Parks.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, I'm just, I'm just going to track. Sabrina Parr. Oh. Is, is, is known as one of the best athletes to ever come out of Collinwood. She had a scholarship to USC. Yeaah. Uhm, Joy Smith, God rest her soul. She ran a track at Michigan. She was a, she was a beast. So it, it's been a fused.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I don't know man, but she was a bright spot man and I just wish she would have had more life because she had a whole lot to give to the


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[Assistant] It was like two or three girls that had ran track of Collin Wood around that time. So Collin Wood definitely has had some.


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[Assistant] Has had their share of, uh, athletes. Louis Moore, uh, was another one that was pretty good. Swanny Cooper was pretty good, so.


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[Assistant] Anything's on the table. I mean, we're playing in Brazil this year, so, I mean, we could do a... Do Rio? Yea, just a little Rio trip out there. I don't know how that would look.


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[Assistant] I think Gene, I can do a show at like 3.30 in the morning, previewing the preview show at 5.30. I was actually up at 8.30 show that previews the 11 a.m. show. I was up at like 2 in the morning yesterday. I was here at 7.10.


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[Assistant] All the things that I believed in for all these years, 50 years of coaching, no longer exist in college athletics.


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[Assistant] So it's always about developing players. It was always about helping people be more successful in life.


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[Assistant] My wife even said to me we'd have all the recruits over on Sunday with their parents for breakfast and she would always meet with the mothers and


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[Assistant] Uh, talk about how she was going to help and, uh, impact their, uh, sons and how they would be well taken care of. And she came to me, you know, like right before I retired and said, why are we doing this? And I said, what do you mean? She said,


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[Assistant] All they care about is how much you're going to pay them. They don't care about how you're going to develop them, which is all what we've always done. So why are we doing this? All the things that I beli-


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[Assistant] Nah, he's reading it word for word. I have no idea what it means.


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[Assistant] As the resident who cannot spell, please double check your spelling before you submit your secret chats.


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[Assistant] The Browns had two fifth round picks, two sixth round picks. You partnered with two of those and you still have a fifth and a sixth to use at your disposal. You're getting a dude who's been in the NFL for four years that was a first round pick. There's a lot of potential there. The word that we continue to use. A lot of untapped potential there.


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[Assistant] But he fits the build of what the Cleveland Browns are trying to do this year. 6-1, uh, ran a 4-4-40 and a 40 yard dash during the combine. He's a vertical threat since 2022.


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[Assistant] He has 10 receptions of 40 yards or more. Amari Cooper has 12.


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[Assistant] So now you have two targets on the outside that can stretch the field and hopefully create space underneath for guys like Elijah Moore, David Bill, et cetera. I think this is a, a low, low risk, high reward type of move. Yeah, you have them for one year, but Andrew Berry has been, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, often just like in real life, when you get a fresh start, a fresh opportunity in a new place, you know, it kind of like revitalizes you. It revamps your energy. You're going to be in a locker room that has a solid culture. You got guys like Joe Batonio in that locker room. You got guys like Wyatt Teller in that locker room. Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, you got that coach, Kevin Stefanski, who's even killed.


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[Assistant] To where it's not cliche in Cleveland, they actually adapt the attitude of the coach.


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[Assistant] And all of that can only help him. We all know the situation with Amari Cooper. I call him OG. When you got an OG in a room that you respect, like it does everything it can to help you off the field and on the field. And so if he can go out there and prove himself, the Browns might have a steal.


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[Assistant] But he's 24 years old and I don't know too many people that's 24 years old that don't have some maturity issues. I think the difference between he and I at 24 years old is my life was not put on


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[Assistant] Got the most out of Jerry Judy there. And I likened that to a player like Marshawn Lynch. When he was drafted by Buffalo and there was some maturity issues and things really didn't work out there. He ends up in Seattle and he turns into Beast Mode. Probably a future Hall of Fame runner back. Definitely a Super Bowl champion.


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[Assistant] And so sometimes when you get that second chance in a new city with a new team, that switch can flip.


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[Assistant] And sometimes you gotta take a step back or be embarrassed before you actually fulfill your potential. But to your point about, you know, him and Amari and Amari helping him as a man, I say all the time, iron sharpens iron as one person betters another.


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[Assistant] Shad Johnson had the funniest analogy of this whole thing. He said the Browns got two dudes from Dade County that's assassin route runners that create more separation than divorce attorneys.


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[Assistant] You said something that made me think. You know how like, sometimes you gotta kinda like...


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[Assistant] And we talk all the time about teams and athletes hearing the noise. Man, we was on this show, other sports media outlets was calling the Cavs soft, wondering what the hell is going on, did the bottom fall out, etc. And every single time we come on these shows and we have that type of talk, the Cavs show up the very next night and they show the hell out.


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[Assistant] Right? They show the hell out, they got us feeling good again, and then you consistently play down to your next opponent. The Nets was a team that you should have beat last night. I get it, you're dealing with injuries, but you're a better team than they are. You have a more quality roster than what they have.


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[Assistant] There's no excuse for the level of inconsistencies that they're putting on the display on a consistent basis. They're consistently inconsistent from the coach to some of the core players on the team.


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[Assistant] I'm like, who cares? What does it mean? But boy, that's like you telling people how to fan just cause you don't care don't mean the fans don't care. Okay, but you're saying it's bad. I'm saying who cares? I think it's bad. I think it was, you think it was a bad loss too, right? But who cares if it's a bad loss? That's a bad loss.


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[Assistant] Here's a positive and a negative. I do agree. You can't get too high or too low on win or losses in the regular season. Here's the positive. Since January 1st, the Cavs have either the best record or the second best record overall in the NBA.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing that irritates me. That's the positive. That's the positive. Here's the thing that irritates me. And this is just a personal thing.


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[Assistant] I just like consistently, I like consistency in your mentality, right? It just makes me nervous that I know I have a team that can play up.


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[Assistant] To any level of competition. Yeaah. And when they know they're playing a team that's not as good, they kinda get laxed. Yeaah. That just makes me worry. And name me a team in the east that doesn't play.


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[Assistant] I think Boston is... The difference between Boston and the Cavs is, is Boston is a veteran team. Well, Boston is a veteran team. They have wards out. A veteran. They can turn it off and turn it off.


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[Assistant] I looked it up, uh, per stat booth. Since January 1st of this year, Boston has the best record in the NBA 23 and 8. The Cavs have the second best record in the NBA 23 and 9.


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[Assistant] The question was, are you happy for Baker? Hell yea, I'm happy for Moneybag Baker, man. Congratulations to you. This is what I tweeted yesterday. I said, dude career was in limbo. He finally found a way to channel himself and be the best version of Baker he could be and it got him paid.


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[Assistant] It might have, it might not have worked out in Cleveland, but much love for you doing well even after this relationship didn't work out. Listen.


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[Assistant] Earl ain't never been no hater. I'm not built like that. At the end of the day, Baker Mayfield was the quarterback that led the Browns to the playoffs and to a playoff victory that I had never seen. The last time the Browns won a playoff game, I was a baby. Didn't know nothing about that. So the fact that


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[Assistant] The topic is about, uh, uh, it's about Russell Wilson. I was a fan of Russ. He and Pittsburgh are not a hell with Russ. I look at it like this. The Steelers got Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] This is a veteran quarterback that's had success and Pittsburgh has a damn good offense, right? They got playmakers all over the place. I don't think Mike Tomlin is going to mishandle or misuse Russell Wilson. They're a running team.


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[Assistant] It's funny you say that because I go back and I try to, from afar, think about the relationship that Mike Tomlin had with Big Ben.


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[Assistant] And how he handled Big Ben versus how he handled everybody else on that team. And so I think he's going to take care of his quarterback. Like in every sense of the word. Mike said something, I think he posed this question two or three weeks ago. He said, what would scare you more?


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[Assistant] Justin Fields in Pittsburgh or Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh? Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh scares me way more than Justin Fields was. He's proven. You look at the quarterbacks in a division, you know, at one point Deshaun Watson was touted as a top five quarterback, Burl is a rookie of the year, Lamar is a two-time MVP, and Russell's a Super Bowl champion.


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[Assistant] I would tell people to go watch his interview on the pivot with Ryan Clark and him, and he talked about, you know, this dude is still trying to chase down Super Bowls. So it'll be interesting to see how these things turn out, but the AFC North is lit. Well look at that Steelers.


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[Assistant] This is just open conversation. I'll go back to the year that he was drafted and I think I had this conversation with you before. It's like that year they hit on their first three draft picks. It was Burrow, Higgins, and I think it was Luke Wilson.


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[Assistant] Then I'm letting him go, because he's playing for 21 million this year. You probably won't franchise tag him again next year. No. I think Jamar Chase is gonna be the first wide receiver to see about 35 million a year. So, like, would all that be ins-


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[Assistant] No, they probably won't do this because this team is in the AFC, man, but if I'm Kansas City, I got a first, I know they won't, but I got a first round pick in 25, 26. They're not doing it. I know I'm saying they're not doing it, but.


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[Assistant] I wonder who in the NFC is like tailor-made to go chase it down that would actually trade for T. Higgins right now.


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[Assistant] John Dorsey was aggressive. I think they run neck and neck and aggressive. John Dorsey was really aggressive.


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[Assistant] My trippin boy, so last year Chicago was pretty aggressive in free agency. You go sign up back like DeAndre Swift.


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[Assistant] Kirk Cousins go to Atlanta, they instantly compete with Tapper Bay for the division.


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[Assistant] So he's familiar with the OC, but Antonio Pierce is a former player Super Bowl champion, and I like the player coaches, right? The guys that's former players that end up being head coaches.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. It'd be interesting to see where Justin Fields ends up though.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's, I don't think he's as bad as, like, I know Mike is not high on him. I'm not that high on him.


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[Assistant] of starting quarterbacks suffered a season ending injury and outside of the Cleveland Browns, there wasn't many teams that was able to have a sustained level of success. How many back of quarterbacks won playoff games last year? Once their starters went out and so to me. But there's a reason.


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[Assistant] And so to, and to me, I think that a lot of GMs looked across the league and said, you know what? I need to make sure that I have a quality backup quarterback. I can't just have a guy like in years past.


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[Assistant] Let me back that up though. Let me back that up because I said that yesterday and I think the Cleveland Browns in particular made that the case, right? When you look at what the Cleveland Browns did last year, I think we can all agree that was the anomaly.


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[Assistant] The brows of Kevin Stefanski made it so hard for that to be an excuse that my starting quarterback got hurt. Because I think now GMs, head coaches alike, they're getting together and saying, man, if I can upgrade my QB too,


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[Assistant] And my coach and my GM come to me and say, well, my quarterback, my star quarterback ain't hurt, man. What you want me to do? Give me another year. He gonna say, hey, they ain't use that excuse.


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[Assistant] Alright, shout out to Keith. Funny story real real quick. We'll get back to business, man. Keith is a big dude.


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[Assistant] Big ass dude, right? And I remember sometimes a caller called in and was going crazy on Keith. And all he kept thinking, I kept thinking was, he must have never seen what Keith looked like.


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[Assistant] Like, Keith is chiseled. He ain't just a big dude. This dude is chiseled.


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[Assistant] Hey, that was smooth. Well, it worked. I watched the whole video of him putting the coat on. He was like, so I've done everything that I could do, you know, but.


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[Assistant] So when people be asking me, like, I've only been in this game three years, and people be like, man, you work three, four jobs, six days, seven days a week. I have the mindset of be a great stewardess now, put in the work now, earn my dues so that by the time I'm your age, I don't have to work as much and I get the bit on the back here from putting in the work on the front.


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[Assistant] I had, I had, I had Derek Henry to Dallas. Now he got me.


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[Assistant] But he is right, I can see the dark visor, the purple jersey and the black pants now.


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[Assistant] So I was like, get the hell going. I was like, Patrick Mahone won't be able to stay with the Ravens. That's so sad. Say it, nobody that cheers for every other team. No kidding. Get him out of here.


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[Assistant] It is so funny man because I remember I was still part time at the fan and I was working at a law firm like just trying to make ends meet and I remember I was plugged in had the radio on listening to this guy.


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[Assistant] Gould went crazy when like the brows made the trade. He came, shortest break. I'm coming right back. I'm going straight to the phones. I want to hear from the people. So like I remember how excited he was. I matched that energy.


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[Assistant] Double shout out to Corey, cause he's one of the few people that actually makes sense on what the Browns should do at Y-Receiver and CREAGENCY, so.


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[Assistant] I'm biased, but I know both sides of this very well. Are you a big Duke fan or North Carolina? No, so Jawad Williams played for North Carolina and then integrated in that. I know the whole Duke North Carolina thing, but then my cousin played football for Ohio State, so I really saw the Ohio State Tucson.


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[Assistant] That's the first time Mike used the word we when referring to the New York Giants in a long time.


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[Assistant] It is really tough to fill 30 minutes. I'm so sorry. Yeaah. I was working with him the whole time. No, no, no.


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[Assistant] You know, one of the things that my mentor and my guiding star in the broadcast business, Joe Tate, told me was, uh, don't lose


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[Assistant] Don't lose sight of what's happening. Uh, you can get caught up in the emotion of it, but keep in mind that especially on the radio side, uh, there are people that can't see


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[Assistant] Uh, what you're describing, maybe they're in their car or maybe they're at work, whatever the case may be. And so, uh, you just try to describe it as cleanly as you can and capture the emotion of it. And so, uh, you want to make sure the call is accurate.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then you want to just convey what is happening at that very moment. And so, uh, that's really the building block and hopefully I was able to do that last night.


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[Assistant] That went up from the crowd. Uh, Hammy is so great at that. Brilliant. Uh, on home run calls where he just lets that crowded progressive field tell the story. So, uh, yeaah, you had a sense it was online. You had a sense.


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[Assistant] It had a shot, pardon the pun, and then once it went through, it was just electrifying.


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[Assistant] They practiced that play. I've seen that play in practice where the inbounds guy throws it in, comes racing up, gets it back and lets it fly. Uh, I'm not gonna say they hit it every time in practice, but Max hit it when it counted.


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[Assistant] by that loss to the Knicks last year. He's taken that to heart. So, uh, if you haven't bought in yet, uh, you better.


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[Assistant] Is there something to it? Tyvis? I'm Tyvis Powell and I'm going to talk about Tristan Thompson. Is he an important Cavalier or not?


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[Assistant] Focal point. Focal point. Let's see, the thing about


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[Assistant] Being an athlete, you hear the noise. All season, that's the only thing everybody's talking about. Y'all ain't got no sticks, G. Bush. We ain't got no sticks. The games aren't exciting because we're not hitting home runs. You hear that for a whole off season. You know what you do that whole off season?


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[Assistant] You do more pushups, you know, you start getting at that plate and you start focusing on hitting home runs. And I think that that becoming the focal point of an offseason has translated to them guys, especially in spring ball, go out there, swing for the fences and they making some really good contact right now.


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[Assistant] I'm on record already saying that they're going to be a top five team at home runs this year. So they gotta, I said it last year. I said it last year on the show. So they're proving me right.


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[Assistant] And you were wrong last year. No, no, no. Cause I didn't, I didn't say, I said for this upcoming season, they will be top five. I didn't say they'd be first. I said they'd be top five in the home run.


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[Assistant] Because secretly, some people don't like the browns, colors, and stuff.


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[Assistant] The Jets game, it felt dog poundish. A lot of barking going on.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's uh, cause when you think about it, it depends on JB's lineup. If JB continues to run the two big man lineup with Mobley and Allen, then yes, he's important because now you need somebody to come in and take, still get rebounds when those two are getting a blow or one of them is off getting a blow.


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[Assistant] But if he, as we discussed, changes this lineup in the playoffs to be where


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[Assistant] Allen's in and Mobley's out and they switch for each other.


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[Assistant] Right now, that's the only thing I think about right now is that Chicago game. How much we missed him in that Chicago game. Cause he has that attitude towards him. You know, he's not going to let somebody push him around in the paint. He's going to be physical in there. He's going to get rebounds. And that's something that he can hopefully get to Mobley and Allen when we come playoffs.


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[Assistant] Okay, yeaah, that's not, okay, that brings me hope that he can still... Bring the energy.


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[Assistant] I'm with Jay on this one, like that's...


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[Assistant] Like you can't, you can't be back in my locker room. Who would want you in the locker room?


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[Assistant] But that's not the way to go about it though. Like, you can't just ask for the release. I request the release.


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[Assistant] He, I mean, well he got traded to Kansas City and he signed a, it wasn't a one year deal he signed with the Jets, right?


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[Assistant] Hey! Happy Presidents Day! What are you guys gonna do to celebrate Presidents Day? It's always a big day on the calendar every year. I'm gonna work, you know, I'm gonna go get an OOTD.


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[Assistant] You know what they've done now is they've partnered with sports leagues.


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[Assistant] The sleep number is partner with the NFL. And I think they gave all of them free beds.


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[Assistant] They get help from teammates and I think team Gibbs has like four cars.


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[Assistant] I've always felt sorry for the rabbit. The rabbit is the guy that sprints out to tire everybody else out, like he's got no chance, sacrificial lamb, so your boy can come up here on steroids and get the


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[Assistant] To say the league has a problem on its hands is an understatement. When the commissioner comes out and openly


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[Assistant] You know when a parent is with the kid in the department store and they're saying, don't you embarrass me. And the kid is like inside going, what are you going to do to me? Then start screaming, mom, let go, let go.


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[Assistant] It was literally like the players telling the commissioner no. Our league.


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[Assistant] We decide what happens. You're not going to tell us that we have to give max, max effort. That's what it's come through.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was, it was hard to watch. We're going to talk about that for the first part of the show. Mikey McNuggets on our call this morning said, I didn't sleep last night.


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[Assistant] He's so tore up about this. I couldn't sleep. I'm taking this very seriously. I came up with five ways to fix it. So that's coming up at like what? 35? Yea, we're going to talk about the game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because it's gone from one of the pillar events of the league to really like why are we doing this?


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[Assistant] That was fun to watch. We're going to talk about that in a sec. Other than that, when you got for the second year in a row, this is what would embarrass me if I'm a player. For the second year in a row.


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[Assistant] To me, what used to be the pinnacle event of the weekend was the slam dunk contest. Now it's like, I don't even know if, are they still doing it?


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[Assistant] The guy that's won the last two years isn't even a player in the league.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't that motivate you if you're a player to say, I gotta up my game? I can't have this guy coming in here and winning it for two years in a row.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that at least is still compelling, but the slam dunk contest to me.


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[Assistant] I think, was it a protest that he wasn't a starter?


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[Assistant] I feel there's something there with that. Like I think he deserves to be a starter. I know we talked about this before the team was selected.


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[Assistant] You know, at whose peril is he a starter? I just think that when I watched Donovan Mitchell play, yeaah, he's a starter in the All-Star game. So I think part of it was in protest. And I also think, and I could be wrong on this, I think that there was a concerted effort by the players to do what they did last night. Let's go out and give them a practice show.


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[Assistant] Let's go out and nobody, nobody gives max effort. I think it was, it was really an opportunity for them and they took it.


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[Assistant] That's what it was. So I can't blame Donovan Mitchell because I didn't see anybody giving effort and playing it like it was a game that they were taking even a smidge seriously.


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[Assistant] I mean, last year, when you go all out in the All-Star game, really, what does it get you? Nothing. Nothing. No, none of that happened. It's like a tree falling in the forest and no one's there. Does it make a sound?


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[Assistant] Like, at the end of the day, what does this accomplish? Absolutely, positively nothing.


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[Assistant] What about, and this might be one of your things in the, uh, in the five.


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[Assistant] What if the winning conference gets home field in the NBA Finals?


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[Assistant] Well, there was a report over All-Star weekend that, you know, all these rumors that Donovan Mitchell wants out are not true.


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[Assistant] Yeah and there was the other, the other person that reported that Donovan Mitchell is fine here.


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[Assistant] Rumors are floated, you whisper it in a reporter's ear, and it's like a game of telephone. You know, by the time it makes its way to a print report or to a broadcast report, it might be far different from what it was when it was whispered into someone's ear. That happens a lot, especially at this level. Here's what I know.


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[Assistant] I would imagine that Kobe has sat down with either Spider or his agent.


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[Assistant] And said, lot of smoke out there. I want to clear it. I want to know where's your guy. Is he here or is he halfway gone?


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[Assistant] That's gonna help us in our decision making moving forward. They have a right to know that.


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[Assistant] And so hopefully everybody's being a man, being forthcoming.


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[Assistant] And during that conversation, which I would have assumed happened before the All-Star break. You would assume.


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[Assistant] We've, you know, are you here for the duration of this contract or are you already thinking about an exit strategy? Because we have a right to know. Don't write a Dear John letter the day before that this, all this goes down. Like, so where are we?


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[Assistant] I'm assuming that happened and I'm assuming that the CAS were happy with the answer because they didn't do anything.


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[Assistant] They didn't try to move him. There was a lot of talk that maybe he was going to be moved. Nothing happened. There was some talk that maybe the cats would be interested in making another move. I'm wondering to your point, G,


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[Assistant] If last year wasn't, if, if, when, when Donovan Mitchell at the end of the season didn't take inventory, he sat down and said, okay, let me go through in my mind, in a little slow motion here, what just happened in a blur. I came to Cleveland with a lot of fanfare. There were people that thought we could win a championship. We won 52 games. We flamed out awfully in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Uh, he played very hard in the All-Star game and had a lot of people talking about his talents there.


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[Assistant] So my hope is when he took inventory, he said, okay, what really mattered? Did the regular season matter? No. Did the all-star game matter? No. Did all the hype matter? Not really. The playoffs.


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[Assistant] If he's thinking legacy long term, does he really want to be that guy that plays for three teams in six, seven years?


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[Assistant] Five years really, if you count as last in Utah. A couple here, it could be less than that. Or is he saying now that the pieces and parts look different in Cleveland? Wait a minute. This is the team that can win it.


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[Assistant] Your point about the players lie, that's an interesting one. They all do. I think players are emotional like everybody else. Like, last thing you want to do is ask someone after a bad day at work. You happy with your job?


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[Assistant] Cause you're going to get all the baggage they just left the office with. No, I'm not. My boss is a tyrant. Uh, it's like a sweatshop. I work 12 hour days. I, I, you know, but ask them after, uh,


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[Assistant] Impression of what's going on in your, in your situation.


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[Assistant] It was okay to do that, and the word got out there. Look, I think it takes care of itself. If the Cavs make a deep run in the East this year, he'll be back.


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[Assistant] I agree with you on everything you said. Yes, they should make it mandatory. They should do it every year. I would almost like to see more inclusion of the women in All-Star Weekend. So here's what I have in mind. You have a tournament with the top five.


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[Assistant] Eight shooters in the WNBA. And you have a tournament with the top five or eight three point shooters in the NBA.


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[Assistant] And the grand finale to that is, they meet in the finals. Right. And you could have a female winner. Now, there was some controversy this weekend. Was it Kenny Smith? Who made the decision?


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[Assistant] And people lost their minds over that, but she's already shooting with the women's regulation ball.


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[Assistant] When they shoot threes, when you're in the gym and you're practicing threes, now Steph is different. Steph is a completely different animal.


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[Assistant] The three is not a challenging shot to him, so he just extended his range and when he shoots, he shoots from way behind the line.


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[Assistant] For a lot of different reasons, one of which being strength, when they shoot their threes, I'm guessing they shoot them toes on line, or as close to the line as they can be.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so on the surface Kenny Smith was railed for his comment.


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[Assistant] But let's talk about that for a second. Does it make more sense to let the women in the competition shoot from the women's line and the men shoot from the men's line when after all, they are using the smaller, easier to shoot with ball in the first place. So it's not like it's an apples to apples competition to begin with. Uhm, I don't shoot. I don't think so.


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[Assistant] Uh, they want to capitalize on her popularity. Women's basketball right now, to me, it's an all-time pinnacle.


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[Assistant] I really think it is. With Caitlin Clark, with what's going on in the women's game in college.


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[Assistant] But here's the thing, all of this interest in the college game,


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[Assistant] As Caitlin Clark and some of these other superstars that are playing in college right now make it to the WNBA, they're going to have more of a following than yesterday's stars brought with them because they didn't have that kind of attention. So if I'm the NBA, I am.


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[Assistant] Banking on Sabrina. Go check out her Instagram page. Listen. Listen, she has all you followers.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I saw a report that said exactly what you just said. Why did Caitlin Clark stay? Well that's simple.


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[Assistant] She can stay again next year, by the way. She can stay another year. There was a rumor that she was making around $7 million. All I know is that's true.


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[Assistant] Caitlin's the only one making that kind of money. That's it. That's it. There's one.


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[Assistant] She has someone to look up to. Before we turn the page on this, Mike, I have a question for you, because I don't know. I've never watched the WNBA All-Star game. Are they competitive?


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[Assistant] I do too. I've never watched a WNBA game, which I've watched very little of their games, but when I've watched them, I have, what I've come away with is like, man, these girls fight. They scrap. They want to win. And I don't know, maybe it's not that way in the WNBA All-Star game. Maybe they mail it in like the guys do.


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[Assistant] But I'm anxious to hear Mike your five ways to fix this because it's broken.


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[Assistant] To your point, if you could use it in half times and timeouts, that would be great.


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[Assistant] I get that, I get that, but no, I'm not saying it doesn't have takeoff, but to me...


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[Assistant] I would imagine that every player that dribbled the ball on that court would say, oh yeaah, it's dead. It's not, it's not the same. I've seen Steph Curry in pregame dribbling the ball around going, nope, that floor, that, that, that piece of


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[Assistant] So I just think that I know it was a gimmick and I know a lot of people like when they saw it, particularly younger fans, when they saw it, they were like blown away. That's the coolest thing I've ever seen. There was a cool factor to it, but Steve weighed in in the chat, Director Steve, that everybody looked like the Wicked Witch.


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[Assistant] From Wizard of Oz, because everybody had that green glow from the light coming up on them. It was kind of odd.


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[Assistant] Yes. Okay, so I haven't bowled in a league in years and years and years. Once upon a time I did, and I took it pretty seriously. When I went, I wanted to bowl 300 every game.


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[Assistant] I just said the best part of NBA All-Star weekend was the high flying, the two teams that brought their high flying dunkers.


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[Assistant] Can you imagine that? One of the players said... Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis. The best part was the, was the intermission dunkers.


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[Assistant] Like, it just, you know, I gotta tell you, I know that the NBA is saying that these are huge numbers, they're up 54%. 10 million views?


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[Assistant] One shot. Everybody's got one shot. You know, however many people come in and


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[Assistant] No, it's not horse because horse is a game of multiple shots.


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[Assistant] It's, no, it's just, and then everybody gets a jut. Everybody, first of all, if you don't make it, I guess it wasn't a good shot. So everybody that makes their shot, their impossible shot, then you get a score once you make the shot.


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[Assistant] And so let's say it's Steph and he's standing under the goal opposite of the one he's shooting on.


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[Assistant] And from a set push position, not a run, he makes it. That's unbelievable, that's incredible, I give that a 10. You know, so based on the difficulty of the shot, the judges can award a score. I would be, I would like to see from a creativity standpoint, because the dunk contest, it's all been done.


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[Assistant] And there's more interest. Exactly. Like even if you're not a fan of watching the All-Star game and, you know, look at the Olympics, we don't know


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[Assistant] Ask about curling, but if we tell, if you tell us that USA and Canada are in the curling finals, next thing you know we're all curling experts.


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[Assistant] Because when you put a USA flag on it, then it becomes patriotic.


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[Assistant] And there is a, that's a great idea, Mike, because there is a real rift going on right now about the NBA being taken over by European players and just international players. So maybe they can capitalize on that, and if you're not playing that game with pride, I would be


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[Assistant] I think so, yeaah. I mean, that's not the way I would have done it.


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[Assistant] Rate them all one to five. Rate the GM, the coach, the quarterback.


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[Assistant] And then other players, you know, your best wide receiver, your best running back. And you get one point if, if you're, if you're not very good, five points if you're the best. And then get a point system and the top points are, well,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would go yellow too. The thing that I would say on this, when you're talking, I think this is obviously the most important chip on the board in building a championship. And to me, I would put, I would ask this question, proven or question mark?


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[Assistant] Because I think that's what, you can basically boil all 32 NFL quarterbacks into that category. Now there's levels to them, but you've either proven that you can take a team to the playoffs, take multiple teams to the playoffs, or you're a question mark.


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[Assistant] And at this point, unfortunately, because he's so far removed from taking the team to the playoffs,


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[Assistant] Uh, I gotta say that he's a question mark. So yellow is I think the only appropriate way to go here.


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[Assistant] With that, I would give a Mari Cooper blue chip, I would give Garret, uh, Miles Garrett a blue chip.


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[Assistant] And his injury, I think he falls more into the yellow. Now maybe I could make an argument for bringing him up into that middle category.


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[Assistant] But it would be easier for me to do that if I had seen something this year from Strong or Ford that made me say, there's something here.


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[Assistant] But to me they just seem like run-of-the-mill guys and I just don't know what Nick


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[Assistant] Well yeaah. He's aged out as a running back. In terms of the average running back. Now he's not average. So I don't think he's, you know, I don't think he's done.


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[Assistant] But age is a concern. He's not 23 anymore. So injury is.


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[Assistant] And contract is the third one. So for me, he fits most of those check marks. And like you said, you don't really care about strong and forward. They didn't move my needle enough to upgrade the room. And because of that, I put them as a yellow.


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[Assistant] Even though I re-tore it 15 months after I tore it originally, my knee felt great. And I was past the psychological part of it. Maybe that's why I tore it again. And maybe I was doing too much too soon. But for me, when I came back from my second one, I don't feel like the same leg. I feel like I have


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[Assistant] I, I hope you're right. Uh, I want more than anything for him to return to form and be that guy again. I just, I know that the odds after one go down considerably. The odds after two go down even more than they did after the first one.


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[Assistant] Well done, chat. I mean, look, no one's taking any pleasure in-


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause you got a Mario Cooper who is clearly a blue. And then you got everybody else who is clearly a pink.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right. I mean, you got a blue chip and then you got a whole bunch of I don't know's.


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[Assistant] You know what it almost looks like? It almost looks like, cause Jason always says GM's earn their money on the fringes, not on the stars. It looks like...


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[Assistant] The model that the GM for the Browns has used, and I don't know if you can kinda look at this and see it,


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[Assistant] You've got a really, really good player at every position.


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[Assistant] So you've got Miles Garrett and then a whole lot of guys. Yup. You've got.


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[Assistant] Amari Cooper, then a whole lot of guys. You've got Nick Chubb, then a whole lot of guys. Where the San Francisco 49ers have taken it a different way.


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[Assistant] And instead of doing it Andrew Barry's way, they've got stars at every position and they


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[Assistant] And the list goes on and on and on. However you're doing it, you need to change it because it's not working.


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[Assistant] How would you categorize the offensive line? That contract is, uh, that's a tough pill to swallow. We've got, the best pieces of our offensive line are old.


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[Assistant] Now, I know Dewan Jones looks like he's coming to be a superstar in this league, but right now he's still


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[Assistant] Well the other thing too is perhaps the strongest piece of all of it is gone. And that's the coach.


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[Assistant] And that is another fact. He pulled rabbits out of hats last year with guys that I'm pretty sure were loading FedEx trucks before they came here.


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[Assistant] No, but he's a good company guy. He is. I like Chris. I like Chris a lot. I feel sorry for him. I do too.


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[Assistant] I feel like Chris is an upper echelon executive in Major League Baseball.


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[Assistant] He's, and a lot of people want to point out that he's, you know, let some players perhaps go, uh, a little early. And these, particularly some outfielders here in the last couple of years, and they've gone on to have some success in other teams' organizations. I get that. You're not gonna hit 100%.


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[Assistant] All you need to do in judging Chris Antonetti is go to the most difficult position in baseball to develop. And that's pitcher.


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[Assistant] And look at his track record. And there isn't another executive in baseball that wouldn't trade his success record and track record and resume at developing pitchers with Chris.


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[Assistant] The kind of owner that is picking his spots. So if you're the Dodgers and your TV contractors worth 240 million,


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[Assistant] Or you're the guardians and you're gonna get 55 million out of your TV deal this year, which is one dollar for every five the Dodgers get. How are you supposed to compete with that?


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[Assistant] There is a major playing field problem in Major League Baseball. Always has been, always will be. Why?


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[Assistant] Because when the Dodgers and the Yankees make the playoffs, the ratings are higher than when the Brewers and the Tigers make the playoffs. It is good business for the big market teams to be successful.


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[Assistant] It is bad business for the small market teams to be successful. And as long as that's the case, and that is the case,


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[Assistant] Then Major League Baseball has no incentive to make an even playing field. That's one reason I think the NFL is the most popular league is, everybody asks me, is it the violence? Is it? No, I think what it is, is it's the parody.