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[Assistant] There can be no doubt that Stapleton exercised an influence over her which may have been love, or may have been fear, or very possibly both, since they are by no means incompatible emotions. It was at least absolutely effective.


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[Assistant] At his command she consented to pass as his sister.


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[Assistant] She was ready to warn Sir Henry so far as she could without implicating her husband, and again and again she tried to do so.


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[Assistant] Stapleton himself seems to have been capable of jealousy.


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[Assistant] And when he saw the baronet paying court to the lady, even though it was part of his own plan, still he could not help interrupting with a passionate outburst, which revealed the fiery soul which his self-contained manner so cleverly concealed.


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[Assistant] By encouraging the intimacy, he made it certain that Sir Henry would frequently come to Mary Pit House, and that he would sooner or later get the opportunity which he desired.


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[Assistant] On the day of the crisis, however, his wife turned suddenly against him. She had learned something of the death of the convict.


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[Assistant] And a furious scene followed in which he showed her for the first time that she had a rival in his love.


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[Assistant] Her fidelity turned in an instant to bitter hatred, and he saw that she would betray him.


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[Assistant] He tied her up, therefore, that she might have no chance of warning Sir Henry.


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[Assistant] And he hoped, no doubt, that when the whole countryside put down the Baronet's death to the curse of his family, as they certainly would do, he could win his wife back to accept an accomplished fact.


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[Assistant] A woman of Spanish blood does not condone such an injury so lightly.


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[Assistant] And now, my dear Watson, without referring to my notes, I cannot give you a more detailed account of this curious case.


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[Assistant] I do not know that anything essential has been left unexplained.


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[Assistant] He could not hope to frighten Sir Henry to death, as he had done the old uncle with his bogie-hound. The beast was savage and half-starved.


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[Assistant] How could he explain the fact that he, the heir,


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[Assistant] had been living unannounced under another name so close to the property.


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[Assistant] How could he claim it without causing suspicion and inquiry? It is a formidable difficulty


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[Assistant] And I fear that you ask too much when you expect me to solve it.


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[Assistant] The past and the present are within the field of my inquiry.


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[Assistant] But what a man may do in the future is a hard question to answer.


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[Assistant] Mrs. Stapleton has heard her husband discuss the problem on several occasions.


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[Assistant] There were three possible courses. He might claim the property from South America, establish his identity before the British authorities there, and so obtain the fortune without ever coming to England at all. Or he might adopt an elaborate disguise during the short time that he need be in London.


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[Assistant] Or again he might furnish an accomplice with the proofs and papers, putting him in as heir, and retaining a claim upon some proportion of his income.


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[Assistant] We cannot doubt from what we know of him that he would have found some way out of the difficulty.


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[Assistant] And for one evening, I think, we may turn our thoughts into more pleasant channels. I have a box for Les Ougneaux. Have you heard the Dureskys?


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[Assistant] Might I trouble you then to be ready in half an hour, and we can stop at Marcini's for a little dinner on the way.


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[Assistant] That is the end of The Hound of the Baskervilles by Arthur Conan Doyle.


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[Assistant] After it happened, Terry, he stared down for about three seconds. I think he needed a standing eight count.


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[Assistant] I thought for my money, the biggest news I heard, you guys can correct me if I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] Was Mary Kay Cabot's report for Cleveland.com, that not just that the league was


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[Assistant] Refuting the six to eight game story that we heard from the Associated Press the day before. In her first line of the story, she just said, the report from the AP was wrong.


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[Assistant] She was pretty strong with her language. So she says that she has a league source telling her that they are not likely to accept a six to eight game suspension if that's what Sue Robinson's ruling is.


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[Assistant] And it appears at this point, guys, that there's...


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[Assistant] A leak literally in the NFL ranks. There's at least dissension in the ranks. You've got dueling leakers. One leaking one thing and another leaking a completely different story. And my first take on this was


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[Assistant] There's dissension at the NFL. Am I reading this?


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[Assistant] You're in the weeds as a reporter and you rely on sources. What's your take on this?


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[Assistant] That's keeping them honest, right? Also, one tidbit on the fatigue factor. So, we throw this in on our Channel 3 show at 5.


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[Assistant] And we have a Facebook page where a lot of the viewers will hit us every time we do a Deshaun Watson story.


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[Assistant] At least the live viewers on YouTube, we can tell exactly how many viewers we have at any time. You beautiful little sickies. Whether we like it or not, and we don't, it'll be for all of us.


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[Assistant] And you know what? Enough already. We've done 10 minutes on it. It's time to move on. And the reason I say it's time to move on is because yesterday we sort of stumbled upon this. You wanted to talk about it on Tuesday and we touched on it and we said we'll come back to it tomorrow, which we did, but we did it like 12.50. And the lid blew off the studio because there was a lot of dissension on this topic.


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[Assistant] And it's basically grade the trade. And I know it's impossible to do that because the trade, he hasn't played one down for the Cleveland Browns. So knowing what we know now that he's going to miss time.


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[Assistant] Let's make this a discussion. McNuggets, I think we put a poll question up.


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[Assistant] Cause we wanted to, quite frankly, I might be surprised. Our viewers and Browns fans might say, no, I'm cool with it if we don't win a Super Bowl. I was just speaking on, from my end, this trade is not a success unless the Browns win a Super Bowl with the Shawn Watson. Did we ask, how did we ask the question and what were the results?


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[Assistant] The very last line. Can you put that back up? At the end of his tweet, it saved a little face for me because I actually said okay, I can sort of.


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[Assistant] The other three that you're putting in this category with the Browns didn't give up what the Browns gave up.


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[Assistant] I want to hear from the three in the middle. I'm very curious to hear your thoughts on this.


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[Assistant] When we last saw him healthy, they were a fourth down stop from playing in the AFC Championship. That's a long way from winning a Super Bowl. Joe Burrow wasn't a factor then? It is, but Bull, when you completely dismiss, like there's no way they're going to Super Bowl,


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[Assistant] We're forgetting the fact that their win-loss records are, and I know that Bakers had better talent, but it hasn't been wildly better talent. And their win-loss percentage is almost identical. It's not like we're talking about Tommy.


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[Assistant] The team doesn't seem to know how to use them properly.


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[Assistant] Great quarterbacks will take a three and 13 and at


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[Assistant] In my view, what you're doing is saying that Baker was terrible, so we had to get someone.


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[Assistant] And what I'm saying is, I get the fact you want to upgrade the most important position on the team.


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[Assistant] But you gave the all-time richest contract and three draft picks away for a guy with ethical baggage that's won one playoff game and is about 500 for his career. And if you guys are telling me he's top five, okay, he's top five. I'm just saying and the fans I think are agreeing with me.


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[Assistant] On a 2 to 1 basis, that it's gotta end in a super.


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[Assistant] If you want to go top 10% is Elite, that means the best three quarterbacks in the NFL can be titled Elite. What's your number?


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[Assistant] of, of guys that can be categorized as elite.


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[Assistant] Herbert is in there. But that can be a second tier. So you've got a lead, then you've got whatever, whatever you want to label it below that.


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[Assistant] To the Buccaneers, a team that missed the playoffs before he arrived and takes them to a Super Bowl win, that to me is elite.


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[Assistant] Yes. And this is a, what have you done for me lately? League, obviously.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean that, you know, your roster has a lot to do with it. I just, I think an elite quarterback is going to take an okay roster and make them better.


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[Assistant] Well, let's ask you this. So I know you've been following what's going on with the Watson hearings. What's your take as we, because two days ago the story was the league might accept a six to eight game suspension. They were likely to accept that if that's what, what Sue Robinson ruled.


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[Assistant] They're clearly fractured there. What do you, what's your take on that?


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[Assistant] The leaks are coming from the NFL. So if she's really upset that the leaks are happening and she really wants to put the screws to the NFL, and this is the report I'm talking about, Albert Breer, one thing I heard definitively over the weekend,


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[Assistant] Wasn't happy how public some things have become. I think there is some concern with the league, and this is the big part.


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[Assistant] No, because my definition of elite is completely different than the panels and maybe, and, and maybe yours. Although you did say you're looking at guys that have won Super Bowl as, as elite.


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[Assistant] For me to be elite, and you can use this on anybody, on anything, if you call a baseball player an elite player, they're not just an all-star, they're an MVP caliber player. That I agree with. So what I'm looking for here, DeQuel, from an elite quarterback,


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[Assistant] So, you know, why four and not three? I don't know. I give two in the AFC, two in the NFC. If I had to pick two guys in either conference,


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[Assistant] He's just not on my list. He's not. That doesn't mean he can't work his way into my list. And it's arbitrary. Like Jason said, everybody, you know, everybody can have a different definition of elite. I just think that for me, elite means superior


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, you know, Skip Bayless always used to say this, if you have to ask if a guy is in the Hall of Fame, then he's not. It's not the Hall of Very Good. It's the Hall of Fame. And so my definition of elite is, if you have to debate it, like I don't think there's any debate, Brady is elite. I don't think there's any debate. Rodgers is elite.


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[Assistant] So, there's one in, you know, there's- I have to debate Rodgers. Well, you can if you'd like, but the-


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[Assistant] I can tell you this, G. Bush, if your analogy, if your hypothetical comes true, and that's probably the most wild hypothetical of any that we've ever given on this program.


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[Assistant] But if that comes true, it's a wrap. You gotta shut it down.


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[Assistant] He played well when he was healthy, but now we're putting him back on the bench.


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[Assistant] But here's why that doesn't fly. Elite is irrespective of...


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[Assistant] The general pop, okay? Whatever elite is going to be a certain level that's better than everybody else hands down. If there's 15 great quarterbacks in the league, in the league, and you want to say 15 of them are elite, your definition, your definition of elite then is anything over average.


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[Assistant] He said that he believes that the Browns have been in communication with the NFL all throughout this process and he also thinks that the NFL and the NFLPA have been having their own meetings.


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[Assistant] But also you have to remember that Joe kind of replaces Ben. You already had Baltimore and Pittsburgh with these great quarterbacks. So Ben drops off and you think, okay, now we just have to beat one. And then Joe comes in. It's, it's an arms race. I know, I know. I wish I didn't.


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[Assistant] Best defensive player ever. Best football player ever. He's in the conversation for sure.


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[Assistant] Mike, I think you've touched on something. I really think that we do have to, every time the clip comes on, Mikey, you need to tell him, flip the chair and do a slow turn.


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[Assistant] What was going on at the same time that Baker Mayfield was holding a camp for kids. When, when you throw, when you throw that in there, it's, it's not great optics. And it isn't, it's all in trade.


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[Assistant] Aditi, I want to ask a question that's slightly off topic, but uhm, it's really kind of a reporter based question and I asked Jason to respond to this off the top.


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[Assistant] Two days ago we had the Associated Press reporting that a league source told them they were more likely to accept a six to eight game suspension from Sue Robinson if that's what she hands down and that they would not appeal that decision.


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[Assistant] Then yesterday, it was a complete 180 and a contradiction. Another league source tells Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com


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[Assistant] That, that's not true. That, that they will appeal and they are not going, they're not going to settle for anything less than a year or an indefinite suspension. What do you make of these completely conflicting reports because one of them


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[Assistant] Absolutely wrong, and one of them is absolutely right, but the sources are coming from the same office. What do you make of that?


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[Assistant] Aditi, I don't want to go too far in the weeds here, but Jeffrey Kessler is involved in this whole thing now from the NFLPA side.


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[Assistant] How much can you tell us about what his presence in this whole story, how, how that could possibly change what happens?


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[Assistant] Thank you, Aditi. It does. It has everything to do with that. And the fact that his cheeks turn red. I've talked to, uh, I won't name names, but assistant coaches that worked under Tom and they didn't like him. He was awful. They just didn't like him.


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[Assistant] I've heard players say that he's the boss or the teacher that you hated at first but you ended up, that person ended up being your favorite because you realized he made you reach your potential. That was Tom Coughlin. Exactly. But I had already talked to a lot of players that didn't like him.


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[Assistant] Needs to end in an NFL championship, a Super Bowl win. Or it's a disappointment. Or I say that's a loser's mentality if you're okay with it not. I'm not okay with it. But anything else than that is second best.


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[Assistant] This is a move that would make us better, but it isn't gonna put us over the top.


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[Assistant] They went all in, but the reason I bring that up is because when, when they made the trade, everybody said, wow, like they're in to win it now. This is it. And if they don't, it's going to be a disaster. But now they're playing with house money. They won. They won. Now they can try to win two or three or become dynastic.


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[Assistant] Make it when it makes sense. Gotta talk guardians because we're running low on time. I thought last night was one of the most, I think it was probably the most emotional win this year. I don't know. I shut it off. You know.


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[Assistant] I want to, I want to say that I think it was the most emotional win that we've seen so far. Hopefully, I know in baseball the momentum is the next day's pitcher, but Bieber's going today. So I do think that if they win today, they're a game out of first place.


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[Assistant] If that's true and it continues his value goes down.


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[Assistant] Carlos Santana was just moved by the Royals and I'm wondering if the Guardians even had conversations. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Archer's looked pretty good. His record is average, but...


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[Assistant] That's a rule. What's the, what's the funny, uh, there's a YouTube clip was his name Jerry, the guy that was in the wheelchair and he'd lit off all the fireworks and I can't believe you haven't seen it end well. It did not end well.


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[Assistant] What a tough life. MacGyver. MacGyver. I love it. Yeah, duck cake and a tube of glue. No, I don't have time. I'll give you a synopsis. I've talked to a Little League coach recently who said that Little League nationwide is in peril.


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[Assistant] So Mitchell, you showed us how, with the Kaggle competition, uhm,


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[Assistant] The majoritistic objective ended up producing a model that did as well as it could, uhm, in a more disaggregated metric.


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[Assistant] Can you describe the scenario where a majoritistic goal would reduce in a, would result in a classifier that does not perform optimally and by that other definition of success?


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[Assistant] This model is not performing as well as you think it is. But then you ended up showing us it's performing as well as it can based on this other definition. So what's a scenario where it wouldn't be performing as well as it could based on your definition?


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[Assistant] I also, I get frustrated too with, with some of the websites that you cited as like, well I still go to here, cause we've talked about this before, even when like the Hollywood Reporter, even when Variety puts news out that's related to this world, they'll still be stuff in there that I'm like,


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[Assistant] Wait, can we get an official word from DC or from Marvel? Because I'm like, you can't just say this thing because it has these ramifications, like this is, you know, without the context, what do you mean by that?


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[Assistant] The sort of like little rumor mill that ends up becoming articles and then you get a bunch of feedback and then you have to follow up with that person and then you, even when Liam Neeson dropped that bomb about like him being and having racist thoughts, it blew up into a thing because that little interview was not enough context to like, to like talk about that issue, like you gotta expand on that.


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[Assistant] And then their editor, their boss, their whatever will be like, listen, this is what the headline needs to be because of clicks. And it's like, that's disingenuous, don't do that.


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[Assistant] The importance of all these things that you're talking about. Headlines can't have nuance, right? It's like you gotta have nuance when you're talking about stuff like that.


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[Assistant] And Punisher just dropped it's second season and then that's it. There will be no third season. And Daredevil had three.


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[Assistant] That's very impressive. I got two questions for you guys. First question is do you think that they are forever forever cancelled? And second question is do you think that


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[Assistant] Marvel Marvel, Marvel Studios, Marvel whoever, will, will,


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[Assistant] Not, we'll bring, we'll like bring these characters back and actually upgrade and go, now they're gonna be in some movies. Do you think that that is likely? Or do you think that at least for option number one, do you think they're canceled forever? Like everybody's been saying, we're gonna see them on Disney Plus, we're gonna see them on Hulu, something else. Cause right now Hulu, like Runaways is on Hulu.


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[Assistant] Right? Uhm, I know that Freeform has Cloak and Dagger for Teleration and...


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[Assistant] Yes, and ABC has Agents of Shield. Still going. Coulson is still alive. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty amazing.


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[Assistant] Bro, it is one of the best trailers for a TV show I've ever seen. I hear this thing and at the end when it's like only on CBS I'll access, I went, that's a game changer right there. Like that's going to get some people, but no matter what, CBS will still be CBS and not Netflix.


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[Assistant] Well, let me ask about that, let me follow up with that question, because I think you're absolutely right, and you're making a lot of good points, but...


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[Assistant] Can it be possible that they never pulled those characters into their movies up to this point because they still had shows going on Netflix and option number two


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[Assistant] The movie studios did not have maybe a place to put those characters other than injecting them into the movies and they talked about how the timing on that can be really tricky and they


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[Assistant] Somebody like Ryan Coogler or Taika Waititi or the Russo Brothers to like force them to be like, okay, you have to put Luke Cage in, you know, hey, Ryan Coogler, whatever you're doing, like, it's gotta have, it's gotta have something, it's gotta have, it's gotta have Luke Cage. It's like, is it possible that just because they just had movies and that's all they had? I mean, listen, their one shots went away. They stopped doing one shots. They did four and then that's it.


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[Assistant] They're like, they're kind of, they were, they were for a while existing on the blu-rays, on the physical blu-rays, and now, since that's kind of, that whole market's changed, that's probably why.


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[Assistant] To go back to my question, is it possible that, that was never in the cards because of where things were, but now where they are, that they could land on DC, or Disney Plus or whatever? Disney? Disney! Disney! Disney Plus! Because I'm so used to being like, DC All Access, watch Do Patrol, but no.


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[Assistant] And the production teams, like the crews of, cause as much as I love like John Bernthal, and I'd love for like, or Vincent D'Onofrio, and for either one of those actors, or even Charlie Cox, to cameo in a Spidey movie.


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[Assistant] That's just that actor. You don't get to bring, like, the director's writing to the room. Like, everybody that's on the Daredevil show. So like, you know, as a fan of this stuff, obviously, I want it all. Like, I want, you know, I want there to be love and care for the characters, like, in my opinion.


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[Assistant] Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, even sometimes Iron Fist, I'm talking, you know, Danny Rand from the comic books, and Rand corporate- I know I talked a lot of shit, but like, he's part of the crew, like, they need to give him his duties as well. And when it's him and Luke, you know, we've been saying too, like, just bring back higher heroes for hire, like, so Rand is viable in there, plus Punisher.


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[Assistant] Uh, there'll be certain actors where we're like, ah, they're nice and great, but like, overall, their casts are pretty effin' stellar. They got Carrie Anne Moss, they got like, they got some incredible, like, directors and stuff too, but I'm saying all of these-


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[Assistant] That's amazing. That is amazing. Oscar nominated, so like, oh my god, Alfred Woodard, like so many people, but those actors specifically, those characters, I think that they deserve and could be easily


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[Assistant] In the movie level of like the MCU, in a cameo capacity, in a starring capacity, if there was a phase four, phase five Avengers, new Avengers, and it's Luke,


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[Assistant] Kage and he's like leading the Avengers with, you know, Scarlet Witch and whatever, whatever. I'm like, that could work.


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[Assistant] Uhm, at the same time, like, if there's a world, if there's a world where, with Disney+, that Daredevil gets to come back for Season 4, like, awesome, because everybody busted their ass and they made one of Netflix's highest rated and watched shows, so it's like, you know?


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[Assistant] These cancellations are happening, uh, I remember when like Iron Fist got cancelled, it was kind of like, okay, but like the rest of them, they're like critically acclaimed for the most part, like they're, they're well rated and then they had good viewer, viewings, and I think everybody's really savvy that like, okay, this is happening because of


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[Assistant] That's why, if I can jump in here for a second, I feel that the best thing, let's play some hypotheticals.


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[Assistant] The best thing that I think would work for these characters, if they did hop over to movies, is in more of an ensemble or cameo capacity. Because again, their shows and their televisions and that format serves the tone better. And I wouldn't want to keep one of those characters away from that tone for too long.


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[Assistant] But I believe that Daredevil, I believe that Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Punisher, they can exist outside of that tone like a fish out of water for a little bit.


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[Assistant] And remember, especially cause Luke Cage like doesn't cuss cause he says sweet Christmas. Exactly, exactly. And I think Daredevil can.


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[Assistant] The thing I would point to is, here's what I would point to. I would point to Deadpool, I would point to Logan. Because both of those movies from X-Men, the franchise, don't look at it in terms of like, as a shining example of continuity, because that's all fucked up.


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[Assistant] And we're gonna go rate it R, it was a huge success. Same with Deadpool. I think that if Logan had come in the middle of their franchise,


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[Assistant] Or a version of a movie like that, that Hugh Jackman could have gone back to a more mainstream PG-13. Okay, it's not a future Logan anymore, I'm regular Logan, and it's a PG-13 X-Men 6 or whatever. That could have worked. So like, I think characters can kinda go back and forth, and I know this is similar to what we're talking about in the next topic or the topic after that, but like, here's the other thing I wanna say.


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[Assistant] Why has the MCU been crushing it with their past couple movies? Maybe not Ant-Man and the Wasp, but Infinity War, Black Panther, Ragnarok. Before that, a little bit of Spidey.


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[Assistant] A lot of bit of guardians, they're taking risks. And you might scoff at that, but


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[Assistant] They're still playing within the PG-13 parameters. I was having this discussion earlier today on Twitter about another Marvel character, but Taika's a risk. Ryan Coogler talking about


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[Assistant] Oh my, exactly. Even, again, I was rewatching Iron Man in the past week and that movie that Disney decided to buy opens with a beheading video. Yeah. Iron Man 3, which Disney owned, had an Osama Bin Laden, you know, style character and talked about the media and terrorism and all these different things.


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[Assistant] They're listening to what Killmonger's saying, but it's still something that I think it took a lot of adults aback. They were like, whoa.


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[Assistant] I didn't know this movie was gonna go there. They went there. And all I'm gonna say is, if Disney has these characters and these shows, and they are not looking at them like, well we need to continue to take risks,


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[Assistant] And hopefully they know this, their shit's gonna get stale. I know from the beginning.


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[Assistant] Feige and people at Marvel Studios have said, it's not in our game plan to do a rated R film, but never say never. And I think that one very easy way for them to remain fresh and current is to, like Fox with Logan and Deadpool go, well we're gonna actually, we're releasing three movies this year, two of them are gonna be for everybody, one of them will be rated R.


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[Assistant] Good, and it's not just, don't rely on violence and sex and cussing, rely on... The themes. The themes. So, man, if they don't do it with the intent of, well we're gonna keep taking some risks with these characters, then don't do it.


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[Assistant] Here's something that's brought to my attention now, when we're discussing this. Let's talk to an internet friend earlier today. I was just on her podcast, but why though, when we talked about Alita Battle Angel, and that was cool. But, she was saying that she wants Black Widow to be rated R, and we were discussing


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[Assistant] That and she brought to my attention to completely valid she was like


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[Assistant] The fans of this whole franchise as well have also been growing up. We're not going on 10 years. And I was like, you know what, you're not wrong, a 10 year old.


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[Assistant] A 10 year old girl, a 10 year old boy in 2010.


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[Assistant] When Iron Man 2 first came out and they first saw Black Widow and they were 10 years old then, by the time this movie comes out, what's supposed to be what? They'll be 20. Because it'll be in 2020. And it's like, that's an audience that is growing up with your franchise.


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[Assistant] It would be totally, it would, it would be like from a marketing standpoint, I think that it could be considered not a risk and smart.


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[Assistant] To acknowledge that, because Black Widow will have a certain fan base, and there could be other characters, especially with Captain Marvel coming out, that can occupy more of a, this is the Wonder Woman superhero of this universe, this is the PG-13, she is a peer to Iron Man Captain America, you know, whereas Black Widow gets to be


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[Assistant] We're in Europe. Jesus Christ, it's Jason Bourne. I've got eyes on Bourne. Uhm, uh, that was all of us during our Europe trip the entire time. But like, you can still have flashbacks or present day where Black Widow's killing people as opposed to aliens and shit. But like, you just don't see the violence. We didn't see the pencil trick in A Dark Night, but we felt it.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing I'm most excited about. Two things. Number one, I keep thinking about Born in all seriousness. I love that trilogy. For Black Widow? For Black Widow, because it has this European


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[Assistant] I just keep going back to Bourne, that style of filmmaking, that uhm,


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[Assistant] That, that European flavor, you know, she comes from Eastern Europe, she comes from Russia, she comes from those, that world.


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[Assistant] Is that, they said that Winter Soldier's gonna be in it, Bucky's gonna be in it? Right.


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[Assistant] And her and Bucky in the comic books have a long relationship dating back to the 50s to like where she was like when she got to sort of her, her adult age.


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[Assistant] But they've had like an on again off again relationship where they were in love and then he got put under as the winter soldier and just like, you know, and then like a decade later he'd pop up brainwashed and she'd see him and it was this heartbreaking thing. Like there could be for me, I kind of don't want to see, um,


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[Assistant] What is it, Budapest? You and I remember Budapest very differently. Don't want to see that. I know Koi Jandro I think was saying the same thing online, but like, if we saw some Winter Soldier flashbacks where it's like, you know, Bucky in the 80s, when he gets activated, and that's when he interacts with, with uhm, uh,


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[Assistant] Black Widow, even though I think in the MCU they said Black Widow was, they said she was born in the 80s. I think she's supposed to be like Scarlet's age or a little bit older, but like,


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[Assistant] They might go back on that, we don't know. They also obscured Fury's birthdate in case they ever wanted to be like, Nick Fury is old enough to be active during World War II and you just didn't see him. And then the last thing is, uhm, with the whole R-rated, uhm, not R-rated thing, like, I think there's a version of Widow that could be great if it was R-rated,


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[Assistant] I do kind of appreciate and almost prefer the consistency.


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[Assistant] She's been in the PG-13 world the entire time up to this point. Now the question is Disney getting the Netflix stuff and Deadpool.


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[Assistant] If, and I really want them to do Deadpool 3, it's like, that's the one where you better not change that to PG-13. If that's your plan. Like, that's the one that I'd rather be like, nope, this is going to be our first rated R MCU movie. It's Deadpool.


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[Assistant] And everyone would be like, oh fuuuh, my god, that's so smart. That's the best way to do it. That's the best way to keep that train going and capitalize on it and incorporate it into what you've already established.


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[Assistant] But if you want to do Black Widow PG-13, at least it's consistent.


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[Assistant] It's possible. You know what else I wanted to bring up? Animation wise. You're talking about animation.


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[Assistant] That plane explodes, like that scene is nuts, and especially Brad Bird with his animated storytelling, he does, he's able to operate in a PG or G world, but he does not dumb shit down. He still tells stories where there's


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that, uh, if any, um, journos are listening, it is now your chance, your, your responsibility for those lovely, those lovely Netflix


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[Assistant] Have you, have your guys' team, have you seen the Netflix Marvel shows? They've all been cancelled now. Uhm, have you seen them? How do you feel about them? How do you feel about them being a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe? And have you guys had any talks about...


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[Assistant] No, no, no, but if I see Kevin Feige in the street, I'm going to be like, hey, hey, hey, Miho, get over there. One question, one question. I've got eight billion questions for that guy.


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[Assistant] But really, but really using the TV stuff is like, is like a big, you know? Yeah, just, just to be like, you know, hey, you guys have talked about, instead of going bigger, you can't, you gotta go, unless it's like, phase four is Galactus, it's like, it's the same thing, it's Thanos. It is the same thing, it's basically just the bigger Thanos. So to go inward, like, I know that Kevin likes those characters.


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[Assistant] Because he reads Marvel Comics and he likes Marvel Comics. I know that all the people that are working over there.


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[Assistant] Like, didn't some of their Marvel Studios concept artists do, like, concept and costume design for some of the Netflix shows? Or am I, like, didn't some of them design the Daredevil suit and stuff?


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[Assistant] In any way, in any case, there's no way that, cause I've been, dude, I've been watching all the behind the scenes, I've been reading all their art of books, and all those people over there, especially the artists, they're so passionate about Marvel.


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[Assistant] You know Kevin's passionate about X-Men and Fantastic Four, he said it before. Like, he knows that. So, I can't imagine them not being a fan, so I would at least want to hear Kevin be like, hey listen, yea they're great shows, it was too bad that they got cancelled and...


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[Assistant] Yeaah, but he's like, but I really like Daredevil, I love Matt Murdock as a character, and I'd love to see Spidey go up against Kingpin. Like that kind of thing. Oh my god. To just make fans go like, aww he said it, he wants it!


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[Assistant] I think it was a very, again, coming from Feige, right? He was the one that said it. It was a very, uh, uhm, uhm,


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[Assistant] What's the word I'm thinking of? Diplomatic response, because it's just like you said, Auggie, it's acknowledging his impact while also not shitting on anybody who comes and wants to tell their story or whatever. Exactly.


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[Assistant] I think it's a little tricky too, because at the same time, this is Guardians 3. It's not necessarily like Marvel Space 4. It's like, it's James Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy. It's his babies, yea. And I think that there's a couple of interesting things happening.


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[Assistant] If, if this movie, and I'm, I'm hopefully, I'm really optimistic about this, that, that


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[Assistant] They'll rehire James Gunn to do three at some point, because if this movie was


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[Assistant] Full bore, non-stop, who cares if we lost a director, Disney's gonna do its Disney thing where it's like, no, no, no, uh, we're Disney, we're gonna make this movie, whether it's you or not, we'll recast you Dave Bautista, we'll recast, you know, like, because we're Disney, this is a non-negosh, that didn't happen. Because if that was really the case, they would have been filming it already.


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[Assistant] I hope that they're not, and I think that this might be an indication that they're not, that again, I'm putting Feige in my brain and I'm hoping that he wants the same thing I do, which is we're gonna let this thing blow over, we're going to stall, we're going to use all of our clout


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[Assistant] To get James Gunn back. And maybe it will take a couple years. Maybe let him go through the ringer in the press for Suicide Squad 2. Seriously, right? Like, let another company, oh, Warner Brothers hired Gunn, how does everybody feel about it? Maybe Disney's waiting. How does everybody feel about it? And it's like, are they or are they not?


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[Assistant] Right? Are, are people that are gonna go to that, are they gonna know about how it went down and why it went down? Are they gonna hold James Gunn to like, hey, so let's talk about your tweets or is he gonna be like, yeah, cool, let's talk about them. I apologize profusely. They were in bad taste and a bunch of Nazis targeted me because I'm an opponent of Donald Trump.


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[Assistant] Like is that what's gonna happen and is that what Disney's trying to avoid so that Warner Brothers can take that heat? Or Warner Brothers is gonna be in his corner?


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[Assistant] When all that stuff happens, maybe all of that is looking good and pretty for Feige and Disney. Maybe Disney's like, we just don't wanna deal with that.


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[Assistant] Feige, like, you can have your dude back, but like let him go do something else and then come back and then the cast will be happy to come back and not shitty and mean and angry about it. You guys won't have-


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[Assistant] There's an opportunity to wait, be patient, because in the movie world waiting is a couple of years.


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[Assistant] I know man, and who can blame him? Nobody can blame all of the support that the cast showed, it's such a special franchise, and the other, it's, it's, the silver lining is like, if they waited years, it could come back and Guardians 3 could be the biggest one yet.


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[Assistant] If they're like, we got James Gunn back, like, and if anyone's like, can't believe you guys hired him, they could be like, shut the fuck up, he did Suicide Squad, and everybody now knows it's bullshit, like, stop, that's not what we're talking about, James Gunn brought it back, we're gonna, we're standing by him, and we made a mistake, and that shouldn't happen, and now we're gonna move forward.


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[Assistant] I hope, or again, we've talked about it, the very very least, that they could bring him back as like, an executive producer. He's not on the press tour, another director's doing it, but he's there every day on set.


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[Assistant] He gives a director blessing. He gives a director blessing.


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[Assistant] I just don't see it as not being an option later, especially like I'm saying, I keep going back to like, if it was never gonna happen, they would have been filming this fucker already. They're not filming it.


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[Assistant] So like, to me that's Kevin Feige actually throwing his weight around and being like, how much money have I made you? Let me keep this guy, otherwise this thing will not work. And somebody went fine.


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[Assistant] That's frustrating too, because to me, that opens it up to, as soon as James Gunn was taken out effectively, there was that whole little shitty section of the internet that was like, yeah, we got one, let's go for somebody else. The second that Sarah Silverman says something passionately, opposed to


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[Assistant] James Woods, the very politically active, on the other side, actor. If you don't like politics in your acting,


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[Assistant] Why aren't you going after James Woods? He was a voice in the Disney thing. Fire him! Yep.


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[Assistant] Blasted with everybody just putting gifts of Spider-Verse. Everybody. And I saw that and I'm like, Spider-Verse is my favorite movie last year. I think this is shitty to do. You know why? Because I had been spending the week prior


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[Assistant] Watching Incredibles 2, all the special features, all of the featurettes that are on the animators on that film. Fuck John Lasseter for a second, I don't give a shit about him, I'm not trying to protect corporate Disney.


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[Assistant] But I know that there are animators that live and breathe in this town that are raising families, working on that movie, spending


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[Assistant] Hours and hours and hours of their lives to put out a quality product that if Spider-Verse didn't exist, I would be rooting for Incredibles 2. I thought it was fantastic.


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[Assistant] And because I love that film, but also love Spider-Verse, and I saw all of those memes, and everyone's like, this is hilarious. I'm like, look man, if there are any of these Pixar artists on Twitter, they probably follow the Pixar account, because that's where they work. You know, that's their company, that's their, like I follow Nerdist, and I follow HyperRPG on Twitter.


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[Assistant] Our job. They're probably going to see people spamming this response to


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[Assistant] Incredibles 2 is subversive and did this and did that. They're highlighting Incredibles 2 features like 4 or 5.


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[Assistant] Fuck. Okay, that's what, that's what, that's what people are gonna take to a Pixar post being like, we think Incredibles 2 is good.


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[Assistant] Right? And, and I was frustrated at that and I'm telling people like, hey man, I love this movie too, no reason to be an asshole.


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[Assistant] And, and there were people- That's what it boils down to. That's what it boils down to. And there were people being like, you're defending John Lasseter, you're defending a huge corporation, and there was one guy that took screenshots of my things because I was like, don't be an asshole.


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[Assistant] That you try to eliminate my income in my life. You went straight to, I'm gonna get this guy fired from these companies and he's gonna be out on the street. Like, why the fuck would you do that to somebody?


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[Assistant] Racist, sexist ideology, I'm not, do you know what I mean? I'm not being like, build the wall, Mexicans are dirty. I'm saying, be nice to animators that are probably gonna see this. Love Spider-Verse, root for that if you want it to win the Oscar. Love Incredibles if you want.


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[Assistant] Yeah. And I had, I had a, a, a, a person that I follow as well that she jumped in, she goes, yeah I did, I worked on both of these movies.


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[Assistant] I worked on marketing for both, and it's a real bummer to see everybody shitting on Incredibles, like, I love them both, I also love Spider-Verse, and it's like, you know, does it matter who we're rooting for for the Oscar? No?


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[Assistant] A bunch of people who worked on Incredibles might have seen Spider-Verse and gone, that should win the Oscar. That still doesn't mean we can be


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[Assistant] Assholes. And people are like, we're not being jerks, we're just, it's a meme. And I'm like, the joke is, Pixar goes,


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[Assistant] For your consideration, best picture, and everyone's like, that shouldn't win best picture, this should.


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[Assistant] That was a joke. That's what it boiled down to. That's, you know, with the GIF and the fact that everybody piled on meant that it was like a pile on fuck you. And I was like, dude, I just spent a day watching these animators that were like, I can't believe I got to work on Frozone. I grew up watching the first one and I'm doing this and I had to spend time away from my family and I love this movie.


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[Assistant] So will Lord and Miller, like they're gonna be fine, but in the commentary track for Incredibles 2, it opens with Brad Bird and he goes, you know, I don't need to do this. I'm gonna hand it off to the heads of my department and animators for the whole movie. And I was like, this is great. Brad Bird did that. He stepped away.


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[Assistant] Because again, he knows he doesn't need to be like, okay, now you're gonna listen to me for two hours, talk about it. He's like, I did this with, I've done it multiple times. So like he loves his teams and stuff. And I was just so impassioned by it, but it was so crazy that that kid was like trying to get me fired.


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[Assistant] Just because it's never in good faith, it's always in bad faith. It's that argument from that side, the only reason they targeted Gunn is because, you know, you can absolutely be offended by what he said. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] So it's never, it's not in good faith, right? It's not in good faith. No, no. You know, people are, people were defending, people were calling for a DC Comics writer, you know, rightfully to like, be pulled off of his project because he ended up being like a sexual abuser. Exactly. Somebody who was sexually assaulting people. Right.


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[Assistant] Then somebody on their side does the same thing and they don't, do you know what I mean? And they don't call that out. They don't, you know, because


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[Assistant] A lot of the times those groups, that mom mentality, they don't actually care about the safety of women. They don't actually care about


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[Assistant] Hopefully Disney, like, it blows my mind that huge companies like this don't have like, straight up social media departments.


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[Assistant] The important take away is like, no matter how much I would have loved Captain Marvel, it is, it is, uhm,


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[Assistant] Arrogant of me to think that I could appreciate that movie possibly more than a woman could.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, uh, a female journalist or an interviewer because very obviously Captain Marvel has something different.


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[Assistant] Uh, I hope that Black Panther had a lot of black press covering it. Because otherwise, what's the point man? Because otherwise you're gonna get, you're gonna get reviews from people that are going, this is good, I really like it. As opposed to,


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[Assistant] This is what this film means to me. And I can tap into some of the stuff that the movie was talking about, you know? And as a male, as a guy, like, I can't tap into some of the stuff Captain Marvel is hopefully gonna talk about. I haven't seen it yet, we haven't seen it yet.


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[Assistant] So, even if I were given an opportunity to like, Hector, do you want to go cover this thing, like a couple weeks early? With Captain Marvel, I might be like, actually, there's anybody else that can go? If there's a woman that wants to go? Send a lady. Absolutely. Send a lady, send a female. Uhm, because I would hope that


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got a couple from this really nice yeaah. I brought one for Abby and then I got myself a little turtle one. But like, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Right, right, right. You know, uh, no offense to uh, white males. It's things that you can appreciate. No offense to white males. They might have a different perspective than a Mexican guy whose family's from Mexico. Right. So when there's an opportunity like, hey, there's a press trip to go into Mexico to talk about Coco.


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[Assistant] You know, we're gonna send Jeff or we're gonna send Edgar Ramirez, like maybe send Mr. Ramirez, like he might have some, something to say about it that is important and that's part of why this movie was made.


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[Assistant] So in that same way, I think that I would hope that there were more women covering the press for Wonder Woman than typically. I hope that there were more Pacific Islanders covering Moana, covering Aquaman. Like even Aquaman, it's like, that's not what that movie's about, but there's elements of that in there.


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[Assistant] Asian people on Twitter are going, I love that they use certain language in Aquaman and I love that this movie was about feeling like an outsider. They can speak on that. And I think that if you're not a part of a group that might be, that might have story elements about that group or culture like on the screen,


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[Assistant] You can, I mean I've read great reviews from like white guy peers of mine and bosses and friends that have been like


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[Assistant] Hey, I want to say this thing about this movie. Gotta point you to this review over here. This is fantastic. You know, from this woman, or from this whatever, whatever. And that's valid and fair. And, and I think that that's uhm, yeaah, and the really frustrating thing is again,


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[Assistant] Like the targeting, like the fake outrage from people going like, hey!


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[Assistant] There were a bunch of, uh, headlines that were specifically skewed.


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[Assistant] And there were, there were one, there was one that I even responded to via, via a tweet and I was like, you should change this headline, it is irresponsible what you did with this headline.


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[Assistant] It is to say that Brie Larson said she doesn't want white males to be at this press. That is not what she said. You have it in the context of your article. You should change this immediately. And then within 15-20 minutes, I think enough people were saying it that they did change it. They did change it. Here's the frustrating thing. Was the damage already done? The damage was already done. Probably.


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[Assistant] You know? I got into it with a guy who was giving shit to Joestar about this. And this kid was like, well, it's the way that she said it.


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[Assistant] And we were like, what was it about, what did she say specifically? Can you quote it?


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[Assistant] And he never provided a quote, and he never provided a copy paste. Because we were like, do you not want there to be more types of people covering a press? And he goes, no I have no problem with what she said, it was how she said it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and a bunch of dudes, they took this as an excuse to target and to try to discredit a movie that is obviously about feminism. Because they have reasons for not wanting that. Right, exactly. Everything you just listed. And they have reasons to keep up their sort of fake


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[Assistant] How could people be mad at this? It wasn't even like a, I just had this feeling. She was like, well I talked to somebody who works at this university and they agreed with these statistics that there was a skewing number in this demographic and I wanted to try to include more of these people for the press. She was like, she went to an academic study and people were still like,


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[Assistant] A few people. It's a few people with a big voice. What's the percentage of people on earth that are on Twitter? Oh, who knows? I don't know. I feel like it's like 2-3% or something, 4%. I'm looking up at it. It feels like sometimes it's 60% of Russia.


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[Assistant] Ruling film, President Trump, number one, all the way, like. Alright, Vlad. Thanks. Yeah. Vlad. I believe it. Jesus.


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[Assistant] Hector, I can't believe you said the same thing back to that person. It's like, this guy's literally right there! Where are you? Where are you?


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[Assistant] That happened with the Twitter thing, when people were like, you seem like a real piece of shit, like, defending this corporate Pixar, you seem real fun at parties, but people had to jump in and be like, if you followed Hector, you would know he does love animation, and he can take a joke, but like, you know, he's trying to make a point here, like, if you follow, yeah, I've had that happen, and it's awesome, it's great.


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[Assistant] It's just master of none. Oh boy. Oh my god. Alright, we gotta wrap this up.


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[Assistant] The tyranny of sin, where is thy realm of peace?


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[Assistant] In the white establishment that quote blacks would take over the sport.


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[Assistant] The boxing establishment, once every 10 years, they would let through a great black fighter. Henry Armstrong, then Ray Robinson, and they made Archie Moore wait for 10 years.


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[Assistant] That comeback win against Darrell sums up the previous 25 years of his career.


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[Assistant] And he kept being denied the equal opportunity to prove it. If Archie Moore was white, he would have been a champion ten years earlier.


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[Assistant] Somehow Archie Moore did not become bitter, did not give up.


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[Assistant] The mob controlled a lot of fighters, a lot of weight divisions, uh, and Archie Moore had too much purity as an artist, too much pride, too much dignity to do business with the mob.


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[Assistant] The woman gave him all of the philosophical approaches to life that he used later on. When a task is once begun, never leave it until it's done. If the labor is great or small, do it well or not at all.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't even know if it was five dollars. He went to, uhm, uh, a reform school for that.


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[Assistant] There were several black organizations that did not approve of it. There weren't very many parts that blacks were allowed to play, you know, other than maids and butlers and that kind of thing.


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[Assistant] As he wins the unanimous decision in the 129th bout of his career and it's his 105th


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[Assistant] He was that generation of black athletes after Robinson who were now free, who were just free to play ball. And nobody was going to throw black cats at you. In fact, they were going to reward you for it because that's precisely what the game


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[Assistant] Leo came to me and said, uh, said, Molly, I think we got something here. He said, I'll work with him and you work with him. He said, I think he'll make us some money. I said, I think you're right, Leo.


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[Assistant] George Patton and Winston Churchill are simpatico. They both believe the Soviet Union is now the biggest threat to the world and to democracy.


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[Assistant] Patton is convinced that Churchill is the only man in power who knows what the world is walking into.


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[Assistant] For now, Patton keeps his comments to himself. Volatile words could get him fired or even killed.


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[Assistant] Patton is a man of strong beliefs, as he will tell the press in a few weeks, he is utterly sure of the Russian danger.


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[Assistant] Churchill had a sense of history. Unfortunately, some of our leaders were just damn fools who had no idea of Russian history.


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[Assistant] Hell, I doubt they even knew that Russia, just less than a hundred years ago, owned Finland, sucked the blood out of Poland, and were using Siberia as a prison for their own people.


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[Assistant] How Stalin must have sneered when he got through with them at all these phony conferences, said Patton.


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[Assistant] This morning, the general sits at his desk in one of the small trailers that form his mobile command center, thinking about his future.


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[Assistant] Unless he finagles a command in the Pacific, he knows his career is all but daunt.


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[Assistant] Still a powerful force, the third army was poised to wheel north to capture Berlin.


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[Assistant] Just as they made the hard left turn for Bastogne until Eisenhower stopped them.


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[Assistant] Americans should not only take Berlin patent said, but keep on pushing as far to the east as possible.


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[Assistant] In time, the entire world will come to realize that Patton is right. But by then it will be too late.


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[Assistant] The Russians have already pushed through Austria, now approaching fortress Berlin from the south and east.


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[Assistant] Soon, they will take total control of Eastern Europe, a stranglehold they will maintain for the next 50 years.


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[Assistant] Fear of the Russians is spreading throughout Germany. Millions of civilian refugees flee towards the American lines, only to be turned back.


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[Assistant] More than a half million German soldiers have raised their hands in surrender, so they will not have to face the Russians. In fact, so many Wehrmacht fighters are giving up that the Allies no longer accept all prisoners of war, because it is impossible to house and feed so many men.


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[Assistant] When the men of the once feared 11th Panzer Division attempt to quit the war, the Third Army will accept them as prisoners only under the condition they bring their own food.


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[Assistant] As Patton sips coffee in his headquarters, he knows that his future may lie as a civilian. He has once again appeared on the cover of Time magazine.


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[Assistant] And is at last getting the kind of public respect and glory he desperately craves.


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[Assistant] Should Patton enter politics, he will be a formidable force.


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[Assistant] But the war is not over. For the first time in recent memory, the third army is not being ordered to go on the defensive. In fact, the opposite is true.


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[Assistant] Patton has just been given an additional three army divisions so he can spearhead the final American attacks of the war in southern Germany.


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[Assistant] There was a big meeting yesterday and we got the ball for what looks like the final play, he writes to Beatrice.


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[Assistant] As a general, he is not subject to having his letters read by military censors.


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[Assistant] Yet his wording is deft, nonetheless. He alludes to what is about to happen, yet does not violate national security.


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[Assistant] Lest his letter somehow fall into German hands.


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[Assistant] I have liberated Jay and licked the Germans, so what else is there to do?


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[Assistant] The J to whom Pat refers is his son-in-law, 38-year-old Colonel John Waters, who was captured in Tunisia two years ago.


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[Assistant] Was simply a daring attempt to rescue American prisoners of war. Shortly after crossing the Rhine in late March.


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[Assistant] Patton received word that the POW camp near the German town of Hammelberg held 300 US soldiers, many of them officers. Its location was 60 long miles from Patton's army.


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[Assistant] Among the prisoners was Colonel John Waters, the husband of Patton's beloved daughter Beatrice.


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[Assistant] After conquering the Polish town of Suzban, Russian soldiers had discovered the remains of a hastily abandoned POW camp.


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[Assistant] The Allied prisoners have to march 300 miles west in the dead of February to prevent their falling into Russian hands.


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[Assistant] Prison record showed that Waters was once incarcerated there.


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[Assistant] Patton will later insist that he did not know Waters was incarcerated in Hamelburg.


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[Assistant] Yet the truth is, he was informed of this fact by the American military mission in Moscow on February 9th.


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[Assistant] Furthermore, on the eve of the attack, Patton specifically rode to Beatrice. Hope to send an expedition tomorrow to get John.


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[Assistant] Patent staff questioned this plan to rescue the prisoner, stating,


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[Assistant] That Pat needed at least 3,500 men to liberate the POW camp rather than the mere 300 who were being deployed.


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[Assistant] Even the hero of Bastogne, Lieutenant Colonel Abe Abrams, thought the mission so foolish that he turned it down, giving the command role to Lieutenant Harold Cohen. But Cohen didn't want it either.


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[Assistant] Patent call, Cohen's bluff. Ordering that he be taken into the next room and examined by a doctor. Only when the hemorrhoids were confirmed.


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[Assistant] Did Patton give the lead role to Captain Abraham J. Bowne, the twice wounded 23 year old son of a Brooklyn blouse maker?


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[Assistant] Baum and his rescue force were already exhausted from the Rhine crossing.


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[Assistant] They were handed just 15 maps for 57 vehicles.


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[Assistant] Was possible a task force bomb would not even find Hamilburg. Let alone the POW camp.


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[Assistant] Yet Pat, normally such a meticulous planner, ordered the rescue mission to proceed.


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[Assistant] General Douglas MacArthur had received a great deal of media exposure for liberating thousands of allied POWs in the Pacific. And Patton hoped to make MacArthur look like a piker.


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[Assistant] But the Americans got through. Less than 24 hours after setting out, Task Force bomb miraculously arrived at the gates of O-flag 13B, as the camp was known.


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[Assistant] Instead, the uniforms belonged to Serbian prisoners of war being interned at the camp.


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[Assistant] The German commandant, General Gunther von Geckel, took pity on the Serbians and requested that a contingent of American prisoners march out the gates and tell their rescuers to cease firing.


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[Assistant] Meantime, von Deckel and the remaining German guards fled.


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[Assistant] They no longer had any interest in defending the POW camp.


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[Assistant] At 6.15 PM, Patton's son-in-law, Colonel Waters, marched out the front gate carrying a white flag of surrender.


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[Assistant] Several American officers and a lone German officer were at his side.


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[Assistant] Waters was noticeably gone for more than 40 pounds of weight loss. He walked slowly intending to tell Captain Baum to stop firing. Waters never made it.


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[Assistant] A German guard in a camouflage uniform, not knowing that a truce had been arranged by the camp commandant, steadied his rifle atop a fence post and took careful aim.


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[Assistant] The bullet entered John Waters right hip and exited through his left buttocks.


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[Assistant] He collapsed to the ground, where he lay until he could be carried back to the camp.


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[Assistant] Their fellow POW and chief surgeon of the Yugoslavian army, Radovan Danic, quickly removed the bullet.


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[Assistant] As task force violence stormed through the gates of the camp, cheered by hundreds of American prisoners, one thing became quite clear.


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[Assistant] Colonel John Waters wasn't physically capable of going anywhere. Captain Baum soon found himself faced with another dilemma.


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[Assistant] Instead of 300 POWs, there were well over a thousand.


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[Assistant] The task force simply did not have enough vehicles to carry every single prisoner back to freedom.


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[Assistant] The convoy needed to turn around and race back to the American lines under cover of darkness before the Germans could counterattack.


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[Assistant] An estimated 700 prisoners soon draped themselves atop tanks and half tracks, gorging themselves on K rations the task force had brought along for just that purpose. Those well enough to walk followed behind the column.


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[Assistant] The Germans did counterattack at sunrise the next morning. The strength of the Nazi reprisal was terrifying.


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[Assistant] Swiftly and efficiently, they destroyed the American column and began rounding up the POWs for their return to the camp.


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[Assistant] Many who were not prisoners of war before the rescue attempt now found themselves in German captivity.


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[Assistant] Wehrmacht soldiers used dogs to hunt down the Americans now scattered across the countryside.


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[Assistant] Captain Baum was burned when a rocket hit his tank and suffered a gunshot wound to the groin.


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[Assistant] Yet he managed to evade the Germans for almost 24 hours before being captured and led into captivity.


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[Assistant] George pad immediately visited his son-in-law at a hospital in Frankfurt where Colonel Waters had been taken to recuperate from his wounds.


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[Assistant] Upon seeing Patton, the Colonel burst out, did you know I was at Hamilburg? It was the first question out of water's mouth.


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[Assistant] Because he well knew that many considered him to blame for the horrible waste of American lives.


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[Assistant] Patent is sworn a professional oath of honor that does not allow lying, cheating, or tolerating those who do so.


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[Assistant] Covering up the real reason for Task Force bomb was not the first of George Patton's untruths. One lie in particular broke his wife Beatrice's heart.


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[Assistant] That almost caused him his marriage and may now be coming back to haunt him.


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[Assistant] A willy unmarried young woman who spoke fluent French. She was the daughter of Beatrice Patton's half-sister, and thus the general's niece by marriage.


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[Assistant] She also served as maid of honor at the wedding between Patton's daughter Beatrice and John Waters.


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[Assistant] Patton was old enough to know better. A career soldier and the father of three children would long enjoy the love of a wife who understood his unusual temperament. Beatrice was a remarkable woman in her own right.


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[Assistant] Capable of making conversation in German, French, Spanish and Italian. She had written a book and had passion for music and drama.


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[Assistant] And a ferocious passion for her husband was such that on one occasion she physically attacked an officer who had disparaged her beloved Georgie.


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[Assistant] Patton had a pry her off the man when she knocked him down and was banging his head on the tile floor.


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[Assistant] When the 18 year old Jean began flirting with her husband, Beatrice was unaware. George Patton was flattered.


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[Assistant] So it was that when BH's patent fell ill shortly before a planned journey from one Hawaiian island to another, Jean went in her place. It was no chaperone to prevent what occurred next.


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[Assistant] When a heartbroken Beatrice learned of the tryst, she told her daughter Ruth Ellen, it's lucky for us that I don't have a mother. Because if I did, I'd pack up and go home to her right now.


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[Assistant] But in the summer of 1944, Jean arrived in England as a Red Cross volunteer and wasted no time in reconnecting with Pat.


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[Assistant] When B.H. has learned that Jean was in England, she wrote to her husband that she was aware that Patton's former lover had returned to his side. But Patton denied spending time with the young woman.


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[Assistant] Still, once Third Army began its drive across France, Jean managed to get assigned to the task of Red Cross Donut Girl for the troops.


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[Assistant] Visiting them and providing them with donuts, hot coffee, and conversation.


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[Assistant] She became a regular at Patton's headquarters, where she often spoke fluent French with the general.


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[Assistant] Infatuated, Patton confided to a West Point classmate. She's been mine for 12 years.


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[Assistant] On March 31st, 1945, Beatrice wrote to her husband, wondering why Jean Gordon was still in Europe.


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[Assistant] When, soon after, Patton learned that Gene Gordon was also having an affair with a young officer serving in a safe headquarters position, Patton, as competitive as ever,


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[Assistant] Ordered the young man transferred to frontline combat.


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[Assistant] Late on the afternoon of April 17, Patton flies to Paris. His son-in-law has been moved to a nearby hospital and sits with Waters for a long discussion.


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[Assistant] The controversy surrounding the Hammelberg incident seems to be blowing over. Dwight Eisenhower reprimanded Patton, but little else is being done. It appears there will be no further repercussions.


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[Assistant] Patton sits for breakfast the next morning with his old West Point classmate, General Everett Hughes.


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[Assistant] The two men are very close, and it is to Hughes that Patton confides his relationship with Jean Gordon.


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[Assistant] The waiter hands Hughes a copy of the American military newspaper Stores and Stripes. Hughes smiles at an announcement printed in the paper, but says nothing as he hands the newspaper over to Patton.


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[Assistant] Patton suddenly grins broadly as he reads the news that President Harry Truman has just nominated him for the rank of four-star general.


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[Assistant] He leans back in his chair as those all around him in the dining room have already read the news, wait to see his response. Well, I'll be god damn.


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[Assistant] He was said to be a man after God's own heart, despite the fact that he slept with his best friend's wife, lied about the act, and then ordered the husband sent to the front line so he might be murdered in battle.


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[Assistant] Yet David ultimately paid a steep cost for his behavior.


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[Assistant] Losing his son at a very young age, and eventually losing his entire kingdom.


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[Assistant] Like David, George Patton knows himself to be a flawed yet God-fearing man. His recent bouts of duplicity have also cost more lives than the duplicity of King David.


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[Assistant] But as Patton flies back to his headquarters in a plane newly decorated with insignia, denoting his four-star rank,


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[Assistant] It appears that he will not endure the divine punishments that befell David. In fact, Patton has weathered the storm unscathed.


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[Assistant] But, as a devout general well knows, David once thought the same thing.


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[Assistant] Wouldn't bother over that stuff, Mrs. Carl. Never helped no one in my life.


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[Assistant] Gear it for 40s and lose all that mileage. It's bad enough, you know, getting 13, you know, so.


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[Assistant] And they still talk about it, uhm, probably not yet. Uhm, I know that they're looking at the, the rugged.


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[Assistant] Uhm, patterns, which is usually between the altering and muttering. Uhm, I know that they're looking at that right now, they're working on it, but maybe after that, maybe they'll consider 40, but like I said before, to make 40s, we have to


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[Assistant] Who knows, you know, it's right now companies focusing on doing expansion for our European, our Europe factories. So maybe after that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, actually the size that he wanted was one of those sizes that gosh, I think there was a lot of backorder and we didn't make it for a while.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but it is coming. I saw that on the system that it was already in the water. So it could be already, uh, you know, trying to clear customs already. So it's definitely any time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but, you know, there's definitely a lot of reasons behind that, uhm, as you all know, you know, because of all the pandemic and many other things, but,


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[Assistant] Uhm, especially for us, we kinda held off on producing our Rodian MTX in order to


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[Assistant] Making sure that we have enough inventory when we launch and then, you know, we went into production with the MTX. So which is right now.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but the new tire is Rodian ATX, uhm, so it's all-terrain, a little bit more extreme, depending on, uhm, which size.


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[Assistant] Certain size will have same thing with MTX, it will be a 12-ply. Certain size is not.


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[Assistant] Uhm, even the ATX is very similar to our MTX where it's a dual sidewall. Uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, and that particular tire right now, we are also using it as part of the race at the championship off road.


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[Assistant] So one of the team, you know, goes back and forth depending on the condition. He'll use like MTX sometimes and he'll use our ATX sometimes.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so that is one of the pattern, and then the other one is HTX2, uhm, the original one


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[Assistant] Will also be, you know, obviously the feature will be an oil fitment for certain vehicles as well.


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[Assistant] Anyone in the tire industry could really say why their tires really perform the way it does because, you know, you design a certain ways.


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[Assistant] Based on structure, compound, design, you know, everything has to work together in order to produce what you want to produce, but you know,


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[Assistant] When everybody's using it on the road, on, on the trail.


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[Assistant] Uh, with different setup, different vehicle, different way, everything else, then it's gonna be hit and miss.


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[Assistant] So in order to say why our tires work so well, which it does,


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[Assistant] Well, because it's, yeaah, because certain things you just never know, right? It's, it's kinda like...


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[Assistant] You and I could have the exact same vehicle, same setup, but if you're running,


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[Assistant] You know, let's just say, if you're on a trail on 18 PSI and I'm on a trail with 14 PSI, we might have different feedback.


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[Assistant] And even on the road, if you're running like 31 on the highway and I'm running 28 on highway, we're going to have a different feedback.


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[Assistant] You know, so it's really hard to say what's, you know, the perfect way to do it, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the reason why we say that we got lucky at some point, uhm,


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[Assistant] A lot of times, like especially on a mud terrain, a lot of people want a very aggressive sidewall, right? So you want that sidewall bite and you want that block to be really big and thick and just coming down the whole sidewall. Well, we didn't make it that way.


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[Assistant] If you look at our sidewall design, it doesn't pass the halfway, right?


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[Assistant] And also at the same time, people are scared where they go, Oh my gosh, that's a 12 ply. It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. But based on.


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[Assistant] R12 ply compared to other brands that's maybe 8 plies or 10 plies.


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[Assistant] Uhm, same vehicle, same weight, I mean identical vehicle, and we aired down to 14 PSI.


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[Assistant] Our tire actually had more contact patch than the other brand when other brand


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[Assistant] Uhm, but with our toe ply, it actually flex more, but also durable. And I think the reason why is sometimes, you know, that sidewall is very sensitive, right? It's, it's, uhm, how would I say, you know, you put a lot of weight


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[Assistant] But you also have air, so the way it reacts and the way how it heats up, everything plays, you know, its role, but because our sidewall blocks doesn't cover the whole sidewall, so that middle point


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[Assistant] When you air down, it actually flexes. Whereas if you design with the side block to be passing this midpoint,


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[Assistant] Then when you're flexing, it's not going to flex properly and that's why I


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[Assistant] We feel that that's why our tires actually get more contact patch.


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[Assistant] We had a great people to test with. I mean, obviously you've been there. You met, you know, Don Alexander and you met other people, but


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[Assistant] When we're testing our MTX, we were using 33s going through all that, you know, Gold Mountain and Jambo, all those areas that we did our, at our riding drive that when we're using 37s, when we tested was 33s. So we made it difficult. Um, and when we're testing, I'm talking about certain areas. We draw a line and we have to go, the driver has to go exactly same line.


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[Assistant] Same way, like, we just do it over and over because, you know, when you're, when you're on the rocks crawling, you know, when you do rock crawling, that,


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[Assistant] Half an inch towards the left could change your articulation, which means you might lose a grip or you might gain grip, right? So we try to keep it exactly the same so that our data is correct.


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[Assistant] So we did that for days on different brands, different areas, uhm, and then we just picked the right one. So...


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[Assistant] Again, yeaah, we could kinda call it a partial luck, but we did put a lot of effort.


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[Assistant] We've always worked with FCA. I mean, we're actually one of the great partners with them and they're one of our great partners as well.


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[Assistant] You know, from the previous ones, like, you know, 200C, 300C.


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[Assistant] Scat pack of, you know, on the challenger, the 1320 scat pack, we did that drag tire for them.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we always been supplying tires to, for their Dodge, you know, Dodge Ram. Uhm,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, obviously on my end, I can't confirm anything until, you know, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uhm, yes or no, or which vehicles or what not, but, you know, I could just tell you that we are very close with FCA. We do supply tires for the Dodge side and the Jeep side.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which, you know, so we have a lot of potential to be in any of their vehicles. Uhm, so yeaah, expect the...


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[Assistant] You know, more of our tires popping up in any of those Dodge or Jeep vehicles in the future.


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[Assistant] Maybe the off road seems a little bit different, but let's just say if you take it as a just general public. Tire is the last thing people worry about. Tire is the last thing you want to touch. Uhm, but people don't realize


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[Assistant] You know, it doesn't matter if you're off-roading or racing or just driving, you know, family vehicle, whatever it is. Tires make a huge difference because, you know, it's just, you know, when you step out of the house,


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[Assistant] You do everything you can, right? From doing your hair down to whatever. But usually shoes is the last thing you put on.


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[Assistant] But we all know that some people are sensitive, some people are not, but like myself, I'm very sensitive when it comes to shoes. How it fits, you know.


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[Assistant] So it's that important that the shoes make a huge difference based on if you're gonna have back pain or not, if you're having a good day, you know, it has to do with a lot of things. And that's what tires is, but people don't look at it that way. They take it for granted. It's just a big round black thing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I'm sure a lot of us at one point or another, you go through the Crocs phase, you went through the Perkins stock phase, uhm,


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[Assistant] No, but it's, it's, uh, yeah, I'm always picking on my shoes. It's yeah. I mean, you know.


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[Assistant] I don't collect them to put on a case. I wear them all. It doesn't matter if it's a $50 shoes or $1,000 shoes. I wear them and you know, I enjoy them. So.


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[Assistant] And also both tires are three-pick mountain snowflake certified.


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[Assistant] I believe we are the first company to have that three peak mountain snowflake on a highway terrain tire. So, which is very hard to do, but we got it done.


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[Assistant] So especially like let's say even if you go to Canada, that's what they require. You know, if you don't have that marking, people don't buy your tires.


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[Assistant] Uhm, multiple things, uhm, definitely not a secret, so I'll definitely tell you guys. Uhm, first thing is, uhm, our machines can't make a big one.


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[Assistant] Our handicap made it a positive way for us. So...


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[Assistant] As much as we, at, at some point in the beginning, we didn't know what's gonna be, what's gonna work and what's not gonna work, but when it came down to the design,


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[Assistant] We kept it high because that's what our machine could handle. Our machine couldn't make the big sidewall.


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[Assistant] So we work with what we can, but somehow it just came out that way. And I agree when it comes to looks, people want that aggressive look.


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[Assistant] Even on a highway terrain and even all terrain, you want that good sidewall so it looks aggressive.


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[Assistant] And we get it, you know, but at the same time we know that, you know, the big sidewalls...


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[Assistant] Uhm, in the mud, but honestly when you're really rock crawling, it's the compound and how it flexes.


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[Assistant] Uhm, when it comes to rock crawling, you know, it's, it's only when you're paddling through like certain mud area, then you'll help.


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[Assistant] You know, if it didn't work, if you need a big sidewalk to do rock crawling, then we will be struggling a lot, but we don't, you know, so.


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[Assistant] We know for a fact that it is a compound, more on the compound than the size of the block. Uhm, and based on your question, we had no choice.


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[Assistant] You know, that's all we could produce and that's what we did and somehow it came out the way we wanted to. Uhm, it's not gonna fit for everyone. Uhm, you know, so that's why...


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[Assistant] I would say, it's not compensating, it was more for design look, but also at the same time maybe you could say that you're compensating people.


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[Assistant] That's why we made a dual sidewall. So you have a choice of, you know, which way you want to look.


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[Assistant] What we end up doing is, we had a friend, uhm, he, he designs a lot of cars for, you know, many race cars and he does it for like Motor Trend. He used to do a lot of, uh, you know, one of the artists for like the DC Comics. So we reach out to him and say, hey,


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[Assistant] Look at all these patterns and I want you to come up with your own way.


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[Assistant] When it comes out to that, then a lot of patterns look very similar, but that's how we started. And when it comes to the sidewall, it was just like we went out for a break from our office.


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[Assistant] You know, and, uh, we're just discussing about Sidewall and we were talking about, hey, should we go with the standard look?


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[Assistant] Or what kind of looks do we want? And we're talking about rock crawling. So we're thinking about like Jurassic Park, you know, we want that dinosaur like claw.


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[Assistant] And, uh, and that's how it started. So we decided, okay, you know, why don't we do the clock.


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[Assistant] As of the pattern wise, we kept it exactly the same. So the way you have to produce...


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[Assistant] Sometimes before you go into production, you might have one or maybe two designs, if anything. Uh, what we did was we kept the same design, but each, each, um, cat, like when we separated,


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[Assistant] Certain ones will have certain compounds, certain ones will have certain structure, uhm, and then we test it out.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so we try to get all the feedback from the driver based on how in the functions and the feedback you go through everything and then


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[Assistant] We take that theory compared to what that tire, how the tire is made, what type of sidewall, what type of compound.


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[Assistant] And basically later on, we put everything together and said, okay, you know what? We're going to put this compound with this sidewall.


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[Assistant] And then we're gonna do this sidewall with this compound and then we narrow down and then we test again. And then we keep on narrowing down to the ones we want. So how many revisions? I think we had, ah gosh, maybe...


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[Assistant] Compound structure, and then narrow it down to three, and then we pick one. So. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and before we go through that, like on a trail, a lot of stuff are done through the computer simulation. So...


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[Assistant] When we design tires, you input all that design into a computer. That computer will simulate uhm, what it can do.


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[Assistant] In the past, when you're going through the whole supply chain issue, uhm, I'll give you a scenario. When there's no supply chain issue, there are times where, let's just say, if you produce a tire in Korea, and when we bring it here, it takes


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[Assistant] Like, let's just say the moment it goes into a container and the moment it gets to our warehouse, we estimate two weeks.


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[Assistant] Uh, and that's going to be an uncertain vessel that would take a month, for instance. That's when it's a good scenario. Now during the pandemic, it was totally reversed. Everything took long. It cost way too much. It did affect us a lot.


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[Assistant] Small margin, so when we have to add so much cost to like, you know, double or triple the cost of each container, we have to add that into the tire, right? But we can't.


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[Assistant] And then you got the bottom tiers where, you know, you're price shopping, that's the brand. When you're like, like Nexen, right at the middle, on the upper side,


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[Assistant] You struggle because then you gotta spend so much more money on the marketing just to make that sales. You know, we're at that middle point which is really hard. So...


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[Assistant] Yeaah, and, and also too, sometimes it changes by how the car market changes, right? You remember like, now things are, you know, starting to come down but,


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[Assistant] When we look at beginning of the year, how even, you know, even last year, you look at all the used cars price was like skyrocket because you can't get new cars.