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[Assistant] The way Brown's fans feel about Deshaun Watson and his shoulder moving forward, and the way the Bengals' fans feel about Joe Burrows' multitude of injuries going into next year.


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[Assistant] Jay's worst nightmare is- Step away. And your worst nightmare, if they win that Super Bowl, he's gonna get this clout that is going to be-


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[Assistant] Uhm, Retribution. Uhm, Nick Chubb's coming, Nick Chubb gonna be working out tomorrow. He's working out today. And, uh, I think, I think what's gonna drive him crazy is if the Browns don't make it to the Super Bowl or win it, which I think is a very good chance they could.


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[Assistant] If I was there and they lost, I could have did something about it. Or if he's gonna be happy for his teammates, but he's going to not say that that was part of his legacy. Like for him, he wants to be on the field. So I know for a fact,


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[Assistant] I challenged, I challenged y'all at the beginning of the year. I was watching old dog pound videos. And when y'all was, y'all be banging, keep banging on them, them tin foil, uh, roofs too. Cause, uh, I like when it, when it out. Michael's was like, oh my gosh. I love that.


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[Assistant] And, and, and McNuggets, we, we got, we didn't get that, we didn't get the memo. You know, they traded R.J. Baird, they traded quickly. What do they have to, what do the Knicks have to trade now if we are trying to move down to the Mitchell? How was that trade? Was that a good trade?


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[Assistant] Getting screwed out of two touchdowns? I did not. To get to lose to the Buccaneers? I did not. Bring the hate! Bring the hate!


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[Assistant] That's one of my favorite sayings by the way. Believe it or not, I actually don't hate him. I was recently commenting on my top five most hated players list. I mentioned Kyrie Irving, I mentioned Aaron Rodgers, I mentioned Trevor Bauer, but Baker is, believe it or not, is not on my top five.


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[Assistant] It was. It's better. But it still doesn't have a great team. It has, it had three good teams. Really good teams, yeaah. Uh, and, and the NFC South is horrible. So, you know, the fifth team is gonna be the best wild card team. In the AFC case especially, the Browns have played better probably than anybody outside of the Ravens in the AFC.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, the Browns, according to Vegas, are the most likely...


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[Assistant] I'm wrong. That was going to be if the Bills lost, bad job into me. Strike that from the record. Strike that. That was if the Bills had lost. The Browns would play the Dolphins, which I still don't have a problem with. But it would be at home. It would be at home, yes.


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[Assistant] They looked at, kudos to Vrabel who had his guys ready to go in that game. Trevor Lawrence was terrible yesterday. But Trevor Lawrence was terrible. He was. But. He regressed. They.


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[Assistant] Both Mike and I got accused of being afraid of the Texans. Nobody's afraid of the Texans. It's just that if I had my choice, I'd rather than play the Colts.


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[Assistant] Exactly. The Browns are still favored for a reason. The Browns are a better team.


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[Assistant] I think that the, in my opinion, the Browns and Texans are pretty close offensively. I mean, obviously CJ Stroud is one of the best quarterbacks in the league, but Joe Flacco is playing great. So I think their offenses are close, but I think the Browns are way better defensively than the Texans, which is why I ultimately like the Browns to win. I agree with that.


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[Assistant] I do think there's something to be said for the veteran. The experience that Joe Flacco has, we know for certain the moment will not be too big for him. Do I think the moment's going to be too big for CJ Stroud? I don't, but we don't know that because he's never been in this situation before. I know that Joe Flacco is not going to.


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[Assistant] CJ Stroud has never seen a defense this good in his life. Never. No. Nothing even close. So that, that matters. That definitely matters. I'm not disrespecting CJ Stroud, but I'm certainly not afraid of him either. He is, he is still a rookie.


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[Assistant] They've only played four teams that made the playoffs this year. And the Browns, it seems like have played eight. And two of the four teams they've played that made the playoffs are the two worst teams. Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay. What's their record in those four? They beat Pittsburgh and Tampa. They lost to the Browns and they lost to the Ravens.


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[Assistant] Now in fairness, that loss to the Ravens was the first game of the year, but they got smoked.


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[Assistant] Now the Texans have beaten a lot of decent teams. They got wins, as I said, over Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Jacksonville. Those are all solid middle of the road teams. But they went 0-2 against legit Super Bowl contenders.


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[Assistant] I was getting killed. I put out a podcast last night and I thought it would be not, I didn't think it would be as viewed as much as my other podcast after games, but it had a ton of views and I was like, and then I noticed there were some Texans fans ripping me in the, in the chat. Yeah. Because I said that Nico Collins is a good, not great wide receiver. Which I think is fair, he's good.


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[Assistant] One of the two teams behind you to win.


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[Assistant] So if Pittsburgh beats Buffalo, Miami loses to Kansas City and the Browns win, then the Browns would play at Kansas City.


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[Assistant] I don't know, how many teams do you think, how many teams do you think would get at least five Super Bowl wins in a thousand, or in a thousand simulations, let's say at least 50 wins?


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[Assistant] I think, I think in the AFC, to me, there's, I would, I think Houston, I think the Browns are gonna beat Houston, but if Houston beat the Browns, I think they have, I think actually Houston has a better chance of getting to the Super Bowl than, than Miami does. No, I disagree.


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[Assistant] Between the injuries, the fact they haven't done anything against good teams, and the fact that they have to win all these games on the road, I don't look at Miami as a legit contender for me.


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[Assistant] Give it to a first year coach. They love that. And let's face it, the Texans were supposed to be worse than the Browns this year. They were.


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[Assistant] So it's still, he's still a big favorite to win it. I think the Browns, I would say they, they would have, if you were running the simulation, their most likely scenario is yes, losing to the Ravens in the second round. But I, I do think,


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[Assistant] In my mind, they would probably be either fourth or fifth in the league in terms of most Super Bowls won in this emulation.


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[Assistant] I think it might be like 50. That's where I was thinking. Okay. Yeah, because


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[Assistant] I look at it, I think the Niners would win most often because they have less competen- I think in the AFC, there's like, I'd say four, maybe five teams that are so close.


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[Assistant] To me, there's a difference between the one seed and, again, if that were the case, the Browns would have only needed to win and have the Ravens lose. The Lions, for the two seed, needed Dallas and Philly to lose, and they were both playing terrible teams. Now, Philly ended up losing.


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[Assistant] You'd probably have the Ravens second, and then probably the Chiefs, and then probably the Bills, and then probably the Browns. Even more than Dallas. For me, yes, I would.


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[Assistant] Without a parachute. Let's face it, the Browns have had a magical season, they've overcome every injury. I've said many times in the last month, I don't care who gets hurt, they're fine, they're fine, except if Joe Flacco gets hurt. They're screwed, they can't win with either of these guys. I would say, I guess,


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[Assistant] I don't even know who to say. But in fairness to Driscoll, uh, you know, he's playing with a bunch of backups yesterday. I mean, he was in a tough situation.


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[Assistant] If I had to pick, I'd go with Driscoll because he's been in the league longer, I guess.


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[Assistant] And by the way, something I haven't said very often in my life, good job by the Browns restructuring Joe Flacco's, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, he was supposed to get, you know, bonuses for every game he won as Brown's quarterback. And of course he wasn't playing yesterday. So they restructured the amount he could have gotten if they won to make it just like whatever roster bonus. So he got that money with even without playing. It was a good job. Which was the right thing to do.


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[Assistant] I would take Jarvis. He's my fourth best. I like, you know, it was good that Elijah Moore played yesterday cause I didn't play much, but at least he's ready to go for the playoffs.


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[Assistant] That's the difference between Alex Wright and even D'Anthony Bell versus David Bell. It's D'Anthony Bell, right? Yeaah. Yeaah. I don't know why that sounded wrong to me.


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[Assistant] Well, we saw Jordan Elliott develop earlier this year, right? He hadn't done anything before this year. Right. So, right now, like, the Browns have some pretty legit, legitimate


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[Assistant] Depth on the defensive line, they're very healthy now with Agbo coming back. Uhm, you know, obviously they lost to Hurst earlier in the season, but besides him, they've got everybody ready to go. You got guys come, two things I wanted to note in terms of injuries, guys, that


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[Assistant] But I'm guessing if they thought he could, he probably wouldn't have gone on IR, but I guess, I guess you never know. And the one, uh, the one thing about like, they got Agbo back, they got Elijah Moore back, those are big.


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[Assistant] I said this yesterday, for the two teams I care about, I said I wish the Bengals could teach the Browns how to develop wide receivers and the Browns could teach the Bengals how to develop offensive linemen.


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[Assistant] And there was a time, obviously a lot of time where there were more than four teams in a division.


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[Assistant] There were some five team divisions. There was a, there was, it's not a lot of years, but there were, there was, it was from.


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[Assistant] And then, 99 to 2001, there were six. There was a division of six.


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[Assistant] Yeah, from 99-01 there were three divisions in each conference, even though there were 16 teams, and the AFC...


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[Assistant] Oh really? Dalton Schultz of the Texans missed I think a million dollar bonus by one reception.


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[Assistant] The reality is Baker had a pretty solid season. I don't think the Buccaneers are very good, but I don't think the Eagles are very good either, so I think the Eagles are going to win, but I don't feel confident. Bet the house on Philly.


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[Assistant] We're going to fix this. Listen, Baker did a decent job this year. For the record, sometimes I get...


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[Assistant] If I were him, if I'm still confident in myself, I, you know, he's got to put back-to-back good years together. He's never done that. Just take a one-year deal? I take a one-year deal because if he plays this year or next year... In Tampa?


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[Assistant] Yeah, in terms of the other playoff stuff, I mean, what a gag job by Jacksonville down the stretch to not make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I don't think we talk about him in that class. I think he has been overrated. I think that's fair. And he's got one more year to do it.


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[Assistant] And I actually, and I think I probably went too far, but some people said I, they'd take him over any quarterback outside of my homes. I actually said I'd take him fifth if I was starting a team.


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[Assistant] Well, how about, you want us, Garrett, really going bananas, uh, the Colts pulling Jonathan Taylor off the field. Oh, oh, oh, bro. And by the way,


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[Assistant] They're a more talented team than I've been giving them credit for the last couple of years. This idea that they have no talent is stupid. They're a talented team. Now, I think they're the least talented team in the division, and Mike Tomlin brings them up.


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[Assistant] That's a headspin. I got a good stat that we'll all like. Mike, I just DM'd you or DM'd the show a tweet. Can you put that up?


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[Assistant] It was a good stat. You know who the last first round rookie quarterback to win eight his first playoff game was?


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[Assistant] The last four first round rookie quarterbacks to start a wild game, wild card game, Mac Jones, Lamar, Luck, RG3 have gone 0-4 straight up at against the spread, losing by an average of 15 points per game. RG3 of course got hurt in that game. But a first round rookie quarterback hasn't won or covered since Mark Sanchez in 09. I wouldn't have guessed it was that long.


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[Assistant] Last 11 games, Jared Allen is averaging 19.4 points.


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[Assistant] But what makes that tricky also is that you know you're probably going to have to trade Donovan Mitchell.


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[Assistant] So that affects, whether you, like, in theory, if you could turn Evan Mobley into some good veterans that could give you a great, a much better chance, you might do it if Donovan Mitchell was all in.


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[Assistant] If it had been Alan that was out instead of Mobley, then Mobley would be putting up these kind of numbers.


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[Assistant] But with this exact group, like no Garland and no Allen, just Mitchell and, and Mobley in the shooters.


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[Assistant] Jason, let me ask you, you and Mike this. You guys both said, no they're not gonna trade him, not gonna trade him. Are you saying that because you just don't think they're gonna trade him? Or are you saying that because you don't think they should trade him?


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[Assistant] I think you either have to trade out of it or have to trade mobile. I agree with that 100%.


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[Assistant] What do you get? Does Brooklyn have a package that the Cavs would be interested in? Yes. They do?


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[Assistant] And you guys arrested these guys last week. I think we're going to be able to steal this one from you guys. Wow. How do you see it playing out? Low scoring? Close?


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[Assistant] Crazy accurate. He's always been able to make any single throw from anywhere on the football field, dating back from the first time we saw him at Ohio State.


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[Assistant] I know that he's getting a lot of tutelage from my guy Andre Johnson as well. And I just think it was his time. Obviously having a quarterback like CJ Stroud has elevated this whole franchise. I mean everybody is playing out of their mind.


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[Assistant] In the city of Houston that has mentioned Deshaun Watson this year. We have our quarterback of the future. We are not looking forward. We thank you guys for taking him off our hands. We are in good hands with Allstate down here baby.


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[Assistant] Our guys are gonna have a big chip on their shoulder because of how we did them last time. And hopefully, you know, we'll throw a couple of wrinkles in there and we'll be able to hold him to-


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[Assistant] Well, when you have a quarterback and a coach that mesh as well as those two dudes, remember both of them have a very big Christian faith and they just have the same, uh, thought process.


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[Assistant] Jim knows to his credit since he's been here, he's brought our defense back inside of the top ten in most statistics. Uhm, I think we're going in the right direction. We just don't have big enough bodies on the D-line, which is why we're wearing down in the fourth quarter, and Michigan has been able to push us around in the fourth quarter. Other than that,


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[Assistant] Oh, absolutely. Boy, check this out. Speaking of Anthony, lead the camera on Anthony, man. I gotta, I gotta announce this.


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[Assistant] My man has been promoted effective January 1st, 2024 from Associate Producer of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show to Producer of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, man. So y'all give my man a round of applause.


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[Assistant] So it became official yesterday. Uh, I am on board with UCSS for 2024. I too got a title promotion. But the most important thing about this, as you all know, I love to talk about sports, everyday life in Cleveland, and the culture.


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[Assistant] And I get the opportunity to do that with a brand new show called The Ultimate 216 Show. So excited.


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[Assistant] Start date is to be determined, but it's signed sealed and it'll be delivered real soon.


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[Assistant] And of course, Director Steve is here every day to get on Tyvis' nerves. Nothing has changed.


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[Assistant] So like, if you get four or five penalties, that's four.


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[Assistant] Go ahead Earl. Alright man, we're gonna get into the defense, talk about Myles Garrett, but first,


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[Assistant] Fan deal. Official partner of the NFL. Now, boy, we got some audio here. I'ma let Ant get that together, but I'ma set this up for you. Uh, two days ago, Kevin Stefanski spoke to the media and he said that Miles Garrett was the best defensive player playing on the league's best defense. And despite him not having a sack,


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[Assistant] For honorable mentions, since we're talking about Daniel Hunter, he's 31st. 76.6.


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[Assistant] On that list that you're looking at, who's the first defensive player on that list? Of the MVP odds or?


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[Assistant] I'm just curious on who, who would be first, like who would be first, like if they had


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[Assistant] Alright man, that was a, that was a great conversation. Me and Anthony was just sitting back here chopping it up. But uh, before we get to Cecil,


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[Assistant] Of the NFL. So when I put this together last night, you know, the Browns defense played great at home. They've been playing much better over the last couple of weeks. We know all the injuries that we're dealing with, especially in the secondary.


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[Assistant] But two undrafted guys, D'Anthony Bell, Ronnie Hickman, go Bucks. Go Bucks. Have stepped in, stepped up, man, and uh, don't seem like there's been any drop off. So typists, go crazy.


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[Assistant] And, you know, when we have reminiscence talk and see, so I don't know if you've ever heard this, but.


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[Assistant] We all felt like if you went to Glenville, you was going D1 playing for Ohio State just like everybody else. So when you talk about guys that play D3 football that belong there, I gotta believe that you know in your heart you didn't belong there, right?


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[Assistant] We're gonna try to see if we can sneak Mikey McNuggets in since he won't leave me and Anthony at a hell alone anyway while he's on vacation. Might as well do behind the glass. Not many super chats today, so I'ma read these and then get back to you all and you can finish out the show.


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[Assistant] Real quick, two uh, super chats and then Anthony made something for you all. Logan O. Tyvis, what is that shirt? Jersey is sick. That's the GOAT Wayne Gretzky.


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[Assistant] Gary Coggins says defense better than, uh, stats, offense lead and giveaways. So shout out to the fans that, uh, super chatted into the show today. Man, shout out to everybody that liked the show and rung the bell. And, uh, Steve, I'm sorry. Check this out.


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[Assistant] Plus, ba-da-da-da-da, you're lovin' him. Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] And it turned into a full out brawl fist fight. And, you know, it took, uh, it took a few of us to help pull, uh, separate that fight. But, uh, you know, those things kind of happen, you know, especially when you're not winning games and there's not a lot of happy players in the locker room.


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[Assistant] It's a big deal. It's definitely a big deal in the weight room, uh, when you're in there training and, you know, certain guys want to listen to a certain type of music and, uh, I've seen some arguments in the weight room as well over music for sure.


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[Assistant] We have so much chemistry on this team that, you know, they just find, uh, find different ways to continue to win football games. And that's what's been most impressive to me this season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would have to agree with you on that. I don't think there's a lot of faith in PJ Walker. I think, you know, just watching when he was in the lineup, you know, the offense was very scaled down. They were trying to, you know, not put him in a lot of positions where he had to do too much. They weren't asking him to do a whole lot out there.


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[Assistant] Uh, so for a guy like Jeff Driscoll to come in and get a start in the last week of the season like this, I think you want to see what's there. Uhm, you know, Jeff is a guy that's bounced around the league. I think this is maybe his seventh team or so that he's been on so far in his career. And I remember watching Jeff when he was in college at Florida.


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[Assistant] And a very good player, a very good athlete. I think he's, uh, he's a lot faster than, than people probably realize. I think, you know, he was probably a four, five, four, six guy. Uh, he can really run the football. He's a big, strong physical guy. He's got a strong arm. Uh, there, there's some skillset there that you like. You know, I think he's a capable backup.


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[Assistant] I definitely had that. I don't want to watch these guys. I don't want anything to do with them. You know, I kind of felt like they didn't give me a fair deal there, uh, considering what all I went through with the expansion team and those kinds of things. And then just coming off of a playoff year and you know, broken leg that I didn't get to play in the playoff game and some things like that happened. So I was certainly bitter.


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[Assistant] And uhm, you know, it changed my life. It changed my family's life and the opportunity they gave me. So I'm a huge Browns fan. I'm full form every week. I watch every game. Certainly got my Browns gear on, watching the games every Sunday and you know, but I definitely went through that cycle where I wasn't a big fan for a while, but now I'm fully on board and behind these guys and would love to still make a great run in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's very exciting. I can't believe it's, you know, just the third time since 99, this team has been to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Has earned its right to be in the playoffs. They can relax and rest their starters and get as healthy and fresh as possible going into that first week of the playoffs. So it's super exciting as fans to have an opportunity like this, have a team like this has just been resilient all season long.


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[Assistant] And I think they have a real chance. You know, I really do. I'm excited about what they can do with this defense in the playoffs. You know, defense wins games and playoffs and the way Joe's been playing, he's putting up over 300 yards each game. And it's, uh, you know, when you can do that, you play defense like that. You got a quarterback who's making big plays in the passing game.


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[Assistant] You always have a chance to win these playoff games and certainly the Browns have a great opportunity ahead of them.


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[Assistant] Where they, you know, and obviously just getting to the team, you know, and starting right away, you didn't really know the players, didn't know the playbook, didn't know the system.


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[Assistant] I thought they would just kind of ease him into this thing. And they kind of just opened it wide open, wide up for Joe and said, you know, this is your offense, go with it. And he's making plays, pushing the football down the field, making big plays in the passing game.


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[Assistant] He's already played much better and exceeded all expectations that I had for him. So I'm fully on board on the Joe Flacco train, man. I think he can run this thing all the way through the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, I, I don't think if, I think if the Browns lose a playoff game, I don't, I don't think it's going to be because of Joe Flacco and the quarterback play. You know, I think that, you know, maybe someone outplays them or whatever, but I think Joe's going to give this football team an opportunity to win games.


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[Assistant] Man, this wasn't like, this is not no regular just thing, man. When, when they told me, I said, 6 and 0, they said, man, I'm drinking a Kool-Aid. And I thought, I said, listen, we need to come up with something. But when you come up with something, you gotta believe in it.


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[Assistant] And drinking a Kool-Aid really doesn't necessarily mean that you're just going to be out here just jumping off the roof, but you believe in things that I don't yet see. Sometimes you gotta put your feet or a flag down and believe in something that you don't quite see yet. And so when I watched the Cleveland Browns and you wear these shirts and then everybody out there is wearing these shirts.


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[Assistant] You get to a point and we watch those football games and then it's just like the, the, the thing just starts pounding in your heart. And when you're ready to give up in the third quarter.


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[Assistant] You say, nah, I didn't drink the Kool-Aid now. We didn't already came this far. We ain't turning back. And the great thing about the Cleveland Browns is I'm so happy at them because happy with them because they have really showed the world that football is a more in-depth sport than what we really mean on the surface level.


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[Assistant] And can he be a franchise quarterback? It's the small little things. It's, it's the Dustin Hopkins of the world that kick field goals and you got confidence in them. It's the Cam, it's the Cameron Mitchell's tackling somebody by a fingertip and not let them get them fourth to one. It's, it's J.O.K. Blitzen hitting guys. These guys playing their first games they've ever played and they come in and you know what they do?


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[Assistant] Instead of saying I'm a rookie, they get that Gatorade bottle and they drink that Kool-Aid. And then they believe that they can make the plays and step in for the other guys.


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[Assistant] To me, I love it so much because this year has told us that football is a team game, football is a game that you have to have passion and emotion to play it, not just analytics and figuring out who has the most stats. People count, you matter, and Kool-Aid is ready to drink.


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[Assistant] You know guys, uh, they don't, they don't think like we think. There's no, I can guarantee there's nobody in that locker room that's talking about anything about injuries. They literally, they literally don't care about that. And Miles Garrett in the defense is saying who cares what they have on offense.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, you have to be irrational. They are, when you lose your quarterback, when Chubb went down and Deshaun Watson was gone for the year, they're irrational at this point. You cannot think.


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[Assistant] Anything is going to be bad because guess what? You can control what you can control. And Miles Garrett and the defense.


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[Assistant] Go look at the way they perform. They basically said, it don't matter if you got us up there, we not letting them score, and that is infectious, and the thing that is more infectious is this.


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[Assistant] When you got a defense and a quarterback who's been there before, Miles Garrett said it. He said, look, Joe been there, we don't care if we throw five interceptions. We know he can get back up here and lead us to a victory. Those are the two irrational things that are leading the Browns right now.


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[Assistant] It was looking shaky. He was getting these all the way through. He cut it through 10 interceptions, then one quarter, one driving. The ball just went right through somebody's body. Like it was a glitch in Mac. That was like,


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[Assistant] Whatever the case it is, he threw that ball to, to, to Mari Cooper in between a triangle, Bermuda triangle of defenders. It was like three converging forces. It was like, and he threw it sidearm and then it curved, it looked like a slider and then it dropped right over the outside plate.


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[Assistant] And then the catcher couldn't even frame it. Um, Martin Cooper catches it and goes to the house. I never seen nothing like that. I said, listen, this is, this is spectacular. Of course he gets an A. He could have had an F the first three games or first three quarters of the game, but when it down.


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[Assistant] He was like, it was almost like the ghost of Deshaun Watson against Baltimore. I'm like, you not go just, he just don't go perfect? He just perfect?


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[Assistant] I did. I will tell you this. This is breaking news here. Get your popcorn.


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[Assistant] We'll talk about the running game later on in the show. But, uh, I said it in the chat, I said, I would not be surprised, and I said it last week, that if the Browns throw the ball a hundred times.


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[Assistant] In the word of the day. And uh, look, I think that the best way that the Browns can win football games, Joe Flacco has submitted that.


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[Assistant] Can you win football games with him throwing the ball that much? Yes, but there is some collateral damage to that. He may throw some picks, we're gonna get some sacks somewhere, but for the Cleveland Browns moving forward, this team is laying and depending on the right arm of Joe Flack. You may think it's crazy, but that's the best way that's the plan.


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[Assistant] 236 yards allowed. I mean, that's, that's pretty impressive. And they, and they were doing it one-on-one. Myles Garrett had to tackle for loss when they needed to stop. Alex Wright, they've been seeing all these guys running. It's your guy. It's your guy. You called for him. I called him. I called him out. I said, listen, and remember we spent,


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[Assistant] Months, it seems like, after the Rams game, talking about those jet sweeps and how, why does no one have a Simon football for that. Alex Wright makes that play. He saw it coming. He saw it coming, tackles him there. And so it just seems like,


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[Assistant] When, when they scored that touchdown, the Browns defense was like, oh, let's put that, let's put that cape on and be the Browns at home. When they're at home...


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[Assistant] It's different. Like, it's just, it's video game. It's like when you play tap mobile and somebody picked the same player as you. Jailbreak!


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[Assistant] If you play that well on the best defense in the league, you are a pro bowler. I gotta believe he is. And Hobbs is a pro bowler too.


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[Assistant] You know, Ron Thornhill was supposed to be a big part of what they do because of his leadership of him being Kansas City and just being back there as a calming factor directing traffic. But I'm looking at Ronnie Hickman.


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[Assistant] Undrafted guy? He played well. D'Anthony Bell played his tail off. He made plays before the day interception.


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[Assistant] And it's just like, and once again, Greg Newsome, I think you, you get the most, I won't say hate, we don't want you the most out of anybody. Cause if we feel like you like, he's the little brother. Like he's the little brother.


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[Assistant] Emerson, Emerson Ward and Dennis Newsom. We always got him there as the little brother and we looking at him like you could be doing this or you should do this. But I'ma tell you what, if you gonna dance after every single play, so be it. I got no problem. I like that. I like that. I love it.


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[Assistant] Just being in your gap and doing things like in Drill Sergeant. These guys have to want to enjoy the play for you. So he came up with a rule. He said the only time I'm gonna get mad at you.


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[Assistant] Is if you don't show enthusiasm. He said, I want every play you make. I need everybody doing their own dance, everybody doing their thing. Because it's infectious. And that type of energy keeps you in a game when you're down 737.


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[Assistant] Really in the fourth quarter. We look like a team. There are certain routes that you can go. I used to say this, man. If you're having trouble with creativity, have your scouts and your little film people go tape the game forever again, right? And then just pick the top five plays you like and say I'm stealing those plays.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna run those back next week. These are mine. I may put a little wrinkle on them. They're like, man, this playbook is so dynamic. I know because I stole it from the Chiefs last week. Then I got three for the Dolphins and four for the Cowboys. Look at my first 15. I'm dominant. Like, why you just


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[Assistant] Well, look, okay, if we gonna, they play, if they gonna play a wild card team, I don't know if, if you get the Bills playing the, say for instance, the Ravens. I'll take that match up.


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[Assistant] I like that. I need them to get them up out of there. At their place. Yeah. And if you could get one of those two up out of there.


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[Assistant] This is very close. Very, because Tillman made a couple, now look, we could argue that a couple weeks, two weeks in a row, he's not been in the right place and it caused a turnover.


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[Assistant] That's young receiver stuff, you know, you can't really avoid that stuff.


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[Assistant] I thought he, I thought he played really well. Uhm, but man, I gotta go to Goodwood. Uhm, because...


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[Assistant] I thought Sanchez said it, said it, uh, really well on, on the, uh, telecast.


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[Assistant] Listen, besides the hair, you know, I'ma give you something right here, right? Look, I like the man comment too, so that's two for you.


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[Assistant] Now, he said they need to do, they sitting all over that, that the sit downs. They know what they're running. The comeback routes is not open. He said they just need.


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[Assistant] And that ball he threw to Goodwin was so crazy.


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[Assistant] It was like, I was like, man, that's the best bar I've ever seen.


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[Assistant] I like getting him out of the pocket though. The misdirection stuff, who picked up that last block to throw that ball? You said it.


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[Assistant] Yup. But I didn't see who they were blocking. He got that blocking. That was the only way they got that off. They don't have to get creative. They don't have to get creative in a lot of stuff that they do. He don't have a whole lot of time to throw back. By the way, guys,


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[Assistant] Yeah, because Joe Flacco is throwing, like, I've seen this thing now. If a defender is in trail position, I gotta ask Tyvis about it, but nowadays when a defender is, if they're in trail position and their back is towards the, you know, the football, quarterbacks are just throwing that.


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[Assistant] I've had so many. And you know what? We trippin'. I forgot. I'm looking down. We got three point, we got 3,900 people here live right now. Whoa, let's go. We got over 4,000. So if you are a new person, you are new to the channel, you stumbled across this, this is what we do every single day.


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[Assistant] Hit the subscribe button, we got great content. And by the way,


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[Assistant] I gotta break down that play for Friday and I can't wait to see what he says. He's in a hyperbolic time chamber. He's just sitting there just soaking up time. I got a question.


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[Assistant] Uhm, because if you look at it, we look at his plays and because his plays aren't very splash-worthy, we kind of like, oh that's Amari Cooper, but you look up, and if you didn't have that man on the field, a bunch of other people would not be open.


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[Assistant] Like, when you say what person going out of the game really scares you that it might be a Dundatta, I'm looking at Demare Cooper like,


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[Assistant] I don't know if we can keep playing like this if Maury Cooper's outside of this game.


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[Assistant] By the way, listen, anybody, you can have a pickup truck or a sedan, everybody would take Maserati Mars! Yes.


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[Assistant] In the lexicon, in the culture, he's right up there. People may not know it. The godfather of what we call calling it like that is Stuart Scott. Stuart Scott is the godfather.


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[Assistant] But, but Gus Johnson has placed himself in the top five for the culture just by calling it like that.


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[Assistant] And now, and now we can say, I mean, be honest with you, you know, not only are they drafting well, cause you can throw J. Okay. Into that makes him. Oh, for sure. They go out, the guys, they get a free agency.


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[Assistant] Because we said we gave a list of all the people that we need at quarterback. They brought in one guy.


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[Assistant] You know what you say, he made up. I think Barry, he makes mistakes or he makes a mistake.


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[Assistant] He stopped the defensive tackles to the cover, up to the top, and he brought back Anthony Walker.


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[Assistant] But I did, but I did say on the post game show, you know, I'm always a fan of changing your mind. Listen, listen, you give me some new stuff, look.


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[Assistant] Where there's, where was the turning point for me? And I say, I can't, I'm not messing with him anymore. You can't even say nothing to him. When, when Antonio went out.


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[Assistant] And I was like, oh no. As a defense alignment, I just saw what Sweatt and the rest of them was doing up front.


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[Assistant] Let's just, you know, let's put the brakes and see what happens. This is the reason, by far, he should win Coach of the Year.


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[Assistant] When the Browns started last year, they became the worst hated team in America because of Deshaun Watson. You had people, top notch media people, saying on public waves, airwaves,


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[Assistant] I just don't like the Browns. They're hard to root for. I hate the story. It's the worst contract in history. They've already had the dumpster fire thing going on. Then he got suspended 11 games. When he came back, did not play that well. Then you started up again, in and out, in and out with the injuries.


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[Assistant] This man, Kevin Stefanski, went on after being the worst light team in the media and losing your best players.


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[Assistant] To say, you know what, I'm just gonna win with all these PJ Walker and rookies and Joe Flacco and I'm gonna do it in a way where not only I'm doing it like this, if this was any other team.


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[Assistant] The Browns beat him with Deshaun Watson with a broken arm and an ankle. If you like any of these teams that got good defense, the Browns got the best defense. He hired Schwartz. He's doing it with minimal ski parts. It's not debatable. You got Tyreek Hill. That don't count.


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[Assistant] You take, take your starting quarterback and his best player out of the end game. What is he doing?


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[Assistant] He'd be like, ah, you're right. And I'm like, my wife, go get you the car.


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[Assistant] I told you last week, Jason, I will visit you. You guys are tired from your victory lap. Bulls legs are shaking.


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[Assistant] I asked, I said, you know, I don't know if this is sustainable. After three games, is this sustainable?


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[Assistant] I mean, if you, I mean, it's a big, I mean, so I guess we haven't talked about this. Like, are any of these games, are you guys looking at it as, we need to, we have to win that. We should, we, like, or, or, because right now- The Jets. The Jets is the god of heaven.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was weird. Like, he was going off and I'm like, well, he was short. Like, I thought he was mad at him. I'm like, well, what happened? He didn't jump off size or anything.


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[Assistant] I didn't do a post game show. So I usually do a post game show. I had to go to my wife's, uh, uh, uh, Christmas party. Shout out to our company.


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[Assistant] Man, listen man, yesterday, yesterday I dropped them, see they didn't understand it. They said, Gee Bush, I got the playoff purple coming. They're like, Gee Bush, why are you putting purple? That's for the Ravens. Gee Bush, that's right. It's subliminal guys. The Ravens took our colors and flipped them.


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[Assistant] And won the Super Bowl. We took their quarterback and we flipped it. We got the purple hoodies for the playoffs coming. They don't even know it. If you want to get one of those, I'm giving you an opportunity to win. You get to code weather today. I've already given away five. If you want to get in line for that, watch today, 3pm to 4pm.


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[Assistant] Oh no, I jumped off the roof and said, no, I, under no circumstances, we can't be right around with no rookie quarterback. I like DTR, but Joe, I needed a veteran. I was mad that they didn't get him at the trade deadline. I was hot then. I'm like, nah, you gonna let the trade


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[Assistant] Nope. I was, I thought one of y'all was definitely gonna come in here and say, well, if, if, if the Browns would have just had Baker this year, would they went to the playoffs?


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[Assistant] I'm not really trying to, I mean I play the bangles, I don't want that to be a must win. I need the bangles to get. I'm okay with it. Actually the best thing that would happen is if, well not.


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[Assistant] But I need somebody's upper seas to lose. So if the Bengals get in, right, the Bengals I think have a puncher's chance at upsetting somebody. The Steelers don't. You're right. So I want the Bengals to get in.


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[Assistant] My wife won't watch, she can't watch it no more. She didn't, she knew nothing about football when she got here. All basketball in the Philippines. She, she can't watch it. She's like, it's too nerve wracking, every play counts, and I just, I have to watch, go back and watch the Rewind of it. Like she just watches it after we're done, but she's too nervous.


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[Assistant] I spent 20 years in newspapers. I'm going to give you the headline before the game of what happens on Sunday between the Jaguars and the Browns.


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[Assistant] With another week of practice. We talk on the show how important those Wednesday, Thursday, Friday practices are. You might see a few more wrinkles, but I don't think it's going to look drastically different.


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[Assistant] What we saw Sunday was drastically different than what we've seen this year with a lot of the deep shots down the field. I don't think you're going to see much different than what we saw.


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[Assistant] available. Certainly he look to more than any other quarterback has in his one game last Sunday. And I do think you're right. I think it goes back to their jet stays. There's at least a little rhythm and familiarity there. Cedric Tillman is starting to emerge. We've seen the last couple of weeks. If I have to pick one guy, it's going to be Elijah Moore, but I do think Tillman can have a role here, but


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[Assistant] You know, you don't feel sorry for any team out there. There's a reason the Jaguars are trying so hard to get Trevor Lawrence out there.


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[Assistant] He practiced again today. Trevor Lawrence is out there again today. I think personally, I think Trevor Lawrence is going to be the guy that goes. I know I'm in the minority on that.


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[Assistant] But if I'm a Browns fan, I'd much rather see CJ Beathard during the YouTube show.


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[Assistant] Mikey threw out all kinds of stats that tell you how terrible he's been.


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[Assistant] And that's the guy, no matter how limited Trevor Lawrence is in the pocket, even if he can't move on that, on that ankle that well, he's still Trevor Lawrence and he's still far more dangerous to this Jaguars attack than C.J. Beathard would be.


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[Assistant] I have to doubt that and Bull and I are in agreement on that. Travis Etienne's a fine running back. I don't think he's their most dangerous weapon. I personally think Trevor Lawrence is going to play on Sunday. I think I'm in the minority on that in terms of this panel, but I do think he's going to play and Calvin Ridley.


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[Assistant] Is your top playmaking option. And the Browns have been gashed in the past game the last couple of weeks. Having Denzel Ward back is certainly going to help that.


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[Assistant] But that combination, it's not his arm that's hurt. It's not Trevor's arm that's hurt. So if he can play, the Jaguars can keep him upright in the pocket.


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[Assistant] Calvin Ridley to me is the number one playmaker that the Browns have to be aware of. ATN can help them. He's a weapon that in the run game, but Ridley to me is their most impressive weapon.


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[Assistant] Well it's a clean sweep so far because Miles didn't look great last Sunday in LA with an extra week of rest. Heavy Miles is gonna break down the Jags. You know how those sports cars go.


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[Assistant] I was hedging to wait and see if I thought Lawrence is going to play and then I thought, you know what? I think the Browns are winning either way. Very good. We all have them scoring 20 or more points.


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[Assistant] Hey, you know why I ain't gonna never be upset about that? Because they're winning. Because they scored 36 damn points. That's right. Okay? With that defense, 36 points and win you a Super Bowl. That's damn right. We were just talking. So, so, it's not that, but, but here's, and I always make it a point to say this, okay? You looking at the amount of yards, even with all those passing yards, they had 30 carries. So,


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[Assistant] Not necessarily one dimensional, even though you're having success doing one over the other. But still be able to run the ball. That means you control in the defense.


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[Assistant] And so that's where I, I kinda lean towards that.


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[Assistant] Am I upset they're having success throwing the football? No. The only time I get upset is when they have 15 to 20 carries averaging 5 or 6 yards of carry and then they try to throw it.


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[Assistant] So that means that anytime it was like a third and two or something like that and they needed to run the football, they were able to do it. That's dominating the defense. You run it when you want to or when you need to.


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[Assistant] And all the other stuff is just a successful offense work. Because I gotta tell you, like, I don't know what the hell Defense Day was playing on the other side. Can somebody cover on Mario Cooper? Because here's the kicker, Ty.


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[Assistant] If you're preparing for a Mario Koopa, what is the one thing you're gonna say? He ain't gonna run away from you. Yeah. Right? Yeah.


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[Assistant] But that's, that's the thing. And we, like I said, we had this before. We don't give these guys enough credit.


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[Assistant] And I said when they signed Amari Cooper, he might've been one of the best things ever happen because he is the epitome


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[Assistant] But use one of them fast guys who can't catch. They gonna cover him.


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[Assistant] Played in the slot a lot and, and, and got doubled. I only ran around against one dude.


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[Assistant] Right? But if you're running something like a slant, or you're running something like, like a, a bang eight or something like that, right? It's hard to double them because y'all stacked.


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[Assistant] Right? It, it, it, like, there's certain situations where you gonna get got. Right? Where they gonna be in the right position. But for the most part, you just run your right off of your one guy, the other guy just gonna


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[Assistant] That's what happened. Right, but, but that's, that, and that's the, the ebb and flow of a football game, right? So what I'm more impressed with is how these two guys this quick have been on the same page so well this quick, right?


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[Assistant] Like that, that's amazing. That's, that's, you know, these things you discuss in the off season during camp. Hey, if he do this, you know, I want you to, to, to kind of just make it a post instead of a bang eight, right? Like these are things you talk, how they picking this up so quickly.


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[Assistant] And how these two guys, and, and there's something to be said about two veteran guys.


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[Assistant] Because, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, I used to have this with Bernie. He ain't have to, he'd just turn around and look. I got you. Right?


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[Assistant] He probably give him more of that look. Okay, you see that safety there. We just gonna skinny it up. Right? Like, it's amazing to watch. And it's also, if you a Texan, you can't tell me that somebody was frustrated on them sidelines going, 265 yards? Right? 11 catches. Anybody gonna cover him?


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[Assistant] So it was impressive to watch, but what made this game that much more impressive that we've been watching the Browns all year.


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[Assistant] And one of the things that have plagued him and one of the things why Joe has had to be so great in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Is because they lazily go into these games. Uhm, they haven't jumped on anybody. So the fact that they got after it right away.


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[Assistant] Uh, was, was one of the most impressive things is that this was the first time where the Browns start to finish pretty much dominating.


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[Assistant] He gets more patient, right? See, it's one thing to have speed. It's one thing to have explosiveness. But you gotta learn how to use that on a football field. The thing about Nick Chubb is Nick Chubb runs the ball in a little burst, right? You see him and he's kind of booming in a burst.


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[Assistant] Right? That, that's what makes Nick Chubb special. And then he has that acceleration to go. Right? Jerome Ford has that. Not to the level of Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] But he possesses a skill set that a lot of running backs don't have and that's that top end speed. But if you don't use it right, you can't tell. So if he just run up in the line of scrimmage real fast without, you know,


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[Assistant] Being patient, reading blocks and anticipating stuff like that, it looks like he's just, his skill set is the same as any other Baku King.


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[Assistant] Right? We know he possesses this skill. We know he possesses this speed, but it's how he uses it and how he's patient when using it. That's the thing he has to learn how to pick up on. And I'ma tell you when I learned, I learned when I couldn't run so damn fast. Cause then I had to figure out another way to play football.


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[Assistant] You start learning blocking schemes, you start, you start learning and then you lose a little bit of your skill set. Okay. I, I tell people running back is like a roller coaster. People don't realize that.


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[Assistant] When you take that initial drop on those old school roller coasters, that is the fastest you go. Right? The turns get tighter, so it gives the appearance that you're going faster. But you're not really going faster. When you play running back, as your skill set diminishes, you become better at all the other parts of it.


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[Assistant] Whether it's reading defenses, anticipating blocks, you know, being able to look at the flow of a defense, whether it's with the cut back or stuff like that. And you become more patient because you realize I got one burst here, right? I'm not going to run these guys.


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[Assistant] And you start using all these tools together and you become more of a natural runner.


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[Assistant] And, and I think that's what happens. I mean, Le'Veon Bell, when he first got into the league, he just get it and go because he was a big boy. You couldn't bring him down.


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[Assistant] Right? And just letting things play out a little bit so he could use that acceleration. So I think that's one of the things that young guys have to learn. And in fact, you see this more than anything, a guy come into the league as a burner and he lights it up. And then five years from now, he playing on three different teams that can't play.


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[Assistant] It's because he never had to learn the true skill of playing the position.


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[Assistant] He never had to learn, okay, let me give my left guard a chance to set this up a little bit. Let me give my tackle and my guard a chance to get up on that second level. Because you always had the, the, the ability


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[Assistant] To just be out over athletic and out athletic everybody. Out athlete everybody.


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[Assistant] When that goes away, you have to find other ways to be successful. And that's for everybody in NFL. You ain't the same player when you 30 as you were when you were 23. You just not.


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[Assistant] But how can guys play that long? How can guys, receivers become better route runners? Right?


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[Assistant] Better at reading defenses. So that means that fast guy running across the middle, as he gets older, he realizes, okay, it's zoned, let me sit.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and this is with every position. Offensive lineman, defensive lineman.


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[Assistant] He gonna be better with his hands. He gonna be better with the spin moves. He gonna be a better tactician at that position. And so I know Jerome Ford is an excellent runner, right?


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[Assistant] But I need him to learn the craft of playing running back.


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[Assistant] And he'll make the offensive line look better. He'll look better just with a little bit of patience because he can be more patient than most because his explosiveness and his burst


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[Assistant] But he don't look like a better running back than Nick Chubb, because Nick Chubb knows when to use it. Not even close.


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[Assistant] It's just the quarterback, huh? It has a lot, it has a lot to do with that.


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[Assistant] That some quarterbacks really like using the tight end.


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[Assistant] He knows that he's an integral part of the offense. So how he goes about what he does is different than it's been all year because he know he gonna get the rock. Right? And when he catches it, who gonna stop him?


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[Assistant] Right? And it feels good. It feels good to be that guy on the football field that you're not just a player, your team is relying on you to have success. And I think he's, that's what's taking him.


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[Assistant] To that next level is now, there's some expectations with how you gonna play. You know now.


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[Assistant] Can we, can we, here, let me say this. There is nobody, including Deshaun, that has shown they could do what Flacco is doing.


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[Assistant] Because none of them have gone down the field as accurately as Joe Flacco. So, before we even go there.


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[Assistant] And I ain't, and this game don't even count cause it was like end of the half or something. He just chucked it up. So I'm not even counting. But he's, he's got ten touchdowns and seven interceptions. And I tell people this. If you ain't watching them games, those numbers don't do it justice.


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[Assistant] Because they wasn't slinging it around like Joe Flacco. If they had the confidence...


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[Assistant] To do it, I think they have the skill set to sling it down the field. I don't know if they're gonna be as good as Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] So like, like, listen, like, but, but, and, and I'ma say this. We can say what we want about Kevin Stefanski. If he don't get some serious consideration for Coach of the Year, then they ain't been paying attention. Because he done been through four quarterbacks,


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[Assistant] When you say you put your team in the best position to win,


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[Assistant] I know we've criticized him. I have too. About not running football or, you know, making some decisions that I may be questioning. I can't question it! I can't! The guy knows what he's doing!


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[Assistant] And so from that standpoint, to see the success they're having, now, we had this conversation a few weeks ago, that one of the reasons why he's probably having more success right now, is because you eliminated the skill set from the quarterback. Right?


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[Assistant] So, your offense is a little different, but maybe it fits Kevin Stefanski's game plan a little bit better. You see what I mean?


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[Assistant] So, yeaah, no, but, but, yeaah, uh, to your point, bull. Yeaah. You are 100% wrong, my brother. About what?


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[Assistant] It is. It is Miles Garrett. Thank you. Thank you. Leroy, you have been fantastic today. Cause guess what? Cause guess what?


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[Assistant] It's coming, him saying it as a defensive guy. Alright, you know, you gotta kinda grade it accordingly. Me saying it as an offensive guy.


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[Assistant] You see what I'm saying? So, it's like, soon as your starting quarterback get hurt, it's like when Chad Henney came into the game a couple of years ago, and led them on a drive to win the game, I'm like, boy, everybody make-


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[Assistant] Right? So, so like, let's, every, like, there's teams all over the league saying, we should have got a better backup quarterback. And what? You spend your money on guys on the field.


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[Assistant] Uhm, if he can't go but Tyreek can?


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[Assistant] Uh, you still good, you just need one of the, there's so much speed on that team, right? Uhm, they don't do it as well, but keep in mind, Jay Loano's Robin. Yeah. Batman is Tyreek Hill. So, you can find another Robin. I mean, even Batman used Catwoman every now and then, right?


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[Assistant] Right? They should be okay. Now, I will say this. One of the things that the Dolphins have done, they're real cautious with injuries, right? They're thinking big picture. So they have so much speed on that team that there's other guys that can come in and kind of fill that role of number two.


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[Assistant] Uh, more importantly, you remember, James Wallen had to be number one when Tyreek was out.


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[Assistant] So, so if he don't have to be number one, and Tyreka's playing,


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[Assistant] I think they can, they can be okay, even though


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[Assistant] You know they might be able to roll some additional coverages over.


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[Assistant] Towards Tyreek, but they still got a lot of speed out there. I mean, I've never seen speed.


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[Assistant] He's a, he's a, but look, he's a, he's the biggest wire receiver they got other than, you know, they got Chase Claypool, who ain't touched the field yet.


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[Assistant] Right, I don't know man, like I just think, I mean, I'ma just look, I'ma put on my coach a hat for a second and they get down to the five yard line and throw a fade to Tyreek Hill and you got Chase Claypool.


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[Assistant] I'm like, hey, throw it up to him. That's what he here for. You know, so, but again, it's another situation where you watch that offense go and you watch some of the things they do. They have struggled in the red zone for that reason. Either they give up on the run.


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[Assistant] You know, everybody got that big boy that just, oh, we can throw it up to him and he'll go get it. And I'm just wondering, you know,


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[Assistant] Chase Claypool is not a breaking case of emergency. You gotta break it and see what we got. Cause, you know, you don't know what he's gonna be.


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[Assistant] Big, big, they're all big. They're all big. I mean, if this one's big, then they're, I mean, this is the least big of the four. No, it's the biggest because it gets them to 10. We have said all


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[Assistant] All week I've been thinking this is the one. I'm, I'm thinking, wait a second, is my math wrong? Wow. Okay, eight, five. Yeaah. It's still


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[Assistant] Right. So it's not crazy. It's not crazy that they could miss the playoffs. It's also not crazy that they could go to the Super Bowl. Like either of those things. Well, the one seed is still in play. Yeah. I mean, neither of those things are highly likely, but they're both possible. And, and I guess you could say that about a few teams, but look at the Eagles, they


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[Assistant] Browns are second in the league in players on IR, only behind Houston, and most money on the IR, number one.


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[Assistant] We're gonna be tonight, we're going to The Rock. I keep wanting to call it The Q, of course.


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[Assistant] Caesars, and that's where, that's where we're headquartered. So, you know, head into the rock. If you're confused to where to go, ask somebody, they'll tell ya.


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[Assistant] Everybody on the show, Jay can't be there tonight, but everybody else is going to be there. You see all the happy faces. Everybody's smiling. We're pulling up. Right? It's going to be me and G and Tyvis and Jason and Earl and Mike and Anthony. We're going to be there from seven o'clock.


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[Assistant] Until whenever the Cavs game ends. Now remember, the Monsters are at home tonight. And they always do a good job putting on a show there. The Monsters will be home. But we'll also be watching the Cavs game. They're in Boston.


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[Assistant] That game starts at 730, but we'll be there 7 till whatever the Cavs game ends. Oh, it starts at 730. Right, but we'll be there at 7. The game starts at 730. And we're going to do a rotating bunch of all of us in and out between being on air, because if you can't get there, it will be on YouTube.


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[Assistant] That's a great deal. By the way, I mean, who wouldn't want to go? We should mention, we don't really ever give them any mention, but the Cleveland Monsters are first place in their division. Well, who else in their division?


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[Assistant] We have a record for everything, you know, these days. I think we've broken the record for most consecutive days with you saying, the Browns have unfortunate injury news. I mean, I think you've said that like 13 days in a row.


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[Assistant] It's, go ahead, Blue. It's just, I mean, it's, it is, it seems ludicrous at this point. I, I, I'm all, it's almost like you gotta laugh to say, like, this is silly. But, the good news is, I'm gonna, I'm gonna spin this in a positive way.


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett showed improvement clearly last week from the week before. He's your most important defensive lineman. You have him. Your linebacking core right now is very healthy and playing pretty well. Okay?


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[Assistant] One, Thornhill's injury doesn't seem to be a long term thing, so hopefully he'll be back. Denzel Ward, even if he's not back this week, he's obviously getting close, and he's your most important guy in the secondary. Joe Flacco's playing well at quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, run, nothing's changed at running back. Obviously you'd want Nick Chell, but the running backs, nobody else has gotten further hurt. I know Ford got banged up a little, but.


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[Assistant] He's probably going to play. Amore Cooper's getting healthier. Your tight end position is fine.


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[Assistant] Yeah, okay, you left tackle and right tackle, but they were both out last week and you played pretty well. So yeah, there's been a lot of injuries. Yes, they've mattered. Yes, if you had Nick Chubb and this guy and that guy, it'd be better, but this is one of these wacky, crazy seasons, you know?


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[Assistant] It would make sense that the one time the Browns make a deep run in the playoffs for the first time in forever would be a year where everything on paper says no chance.


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[Assistant] Happens sometimes. I know another team that went to a championship round when they had no business based on their roster. How about the 2016 Cleveland Indians? Their pitching staff was ravaged by injuries.


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[Assistant] It was ridiculous. One fewer injuries, they're probably World Series champions. No doubt.


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[Assistant] They essentially had three viable pitchers that whole World Series. Cody Allen, Andrew Miller, and, and Shane, not Shane Bieber, and Corey Kluber. That was it. It was basically it. The rest of the rotation, you were holding your breath with rotation. The rest of the pitching staff, period.


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[Assistant] They did it. It was a weird year. They got to the World Series. Crazier things have happened. The AFC has been a lot. These other teams don't have as many injuries as the Browns, but a lot of these other teams have key injuries too. There's nobody that's that good in the AFC.


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[Assistant] The Browns may have the most injured players. The guys who are filling in?


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[Assistant] It means the Browns have the most guys who have played less, which means they're fresher.


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[Assistant] But Jay, I don't think you said the teams that make it are not going to have weaknesses. They are. I mean, it won't be as many as the other teams that are not making it.


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[Assistant] We know good teams, just not as many good teams. They, we, we sat here and said, man, to be in the NFC. Well, look at the quarterback.


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[Assistant] They always do something. They'll have to prove it, obviously, like a lot of other teams, but to your point, nobody in the AFC has clinched yet. No. Nobody. We have four weeks to go.


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[Assistant] On this roster. So, you're picking Kareem Hunt also? Yes. So, as soon as Mike asked that question,


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[Assistant] For the entire time as you guys were talking I was paying attention but also it was going around in my mind like a three-way tie and Hunt was one of the three guys.


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[Assistant] Uh, Juan Thornhill was one of the three guys, but in the end, especially because you guys already made the argument, Frond, and it's a good argument, I'm gonna go with Ethan Pochich, because the Browns offensive line,


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[Assistant] Obviously, tackle's been a mess because they've had injuries. Yeaah. But the one thing they've had all year, or almost all year, is the middle of that line has been there. But Tonio I think missed one game, I don't think Tellers missed any, I don't think Pocic has missed any. Time, but not games. Right. And so that,


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[Assistant] Quality and it's probably the best guard center guard combo in the league. Wow. I mean.


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[Assistant] And I think that's so important, not to mention, you got Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] But he wasn't, he was the starter only because they didn't think they had anybody else at the time. I don't know that he earned the role, but I just think right now on this team, the middle of that line is huge. And so I'm going to go with Poachers. But obviously there's a great case to be made for Hunt.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. I think if they were going to do that, they would have done it already. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think the playoffs is the time to experiment with that. They have tried it a little bit with not much success. I don't, I think they, you know, at least they have that strength in the middle. And why?


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[Assistant] Why weaken your left guard immensely?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, left tackle, even betonio not used to playing left tackle, he did it a little while, couple years ago.


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[Assistant] Would probably be better than Christian, but I think the gap between him and Christian at left tackle is not as big as the gap between him and Nick Harris at left guard. And Nick Harris is not really a guard anyway. I think he'd probably use Michael Dunmore.


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[Assistant] No, Michael Dunn's hurt. Uh, I can't even think of their backup guards right now.


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[Assistant] The good news is this week, the Bears do not have much of a pass rush. No, they don't. Which is, that is good news.


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[Assistant] To me, and listen, D.J. Moore has really been great for the Bears. He's having a tremendous season, despite the fact that overall they don't have a great passing game. So he is dangerous, and that's the big reason you want Denzel Ward back. But the most scary thing about the Bears, without a doubt, is Justin Fields running the ball, and as G said, the plan runs. You're right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and those aren't crazy yardage numbers, but you see five touchdowns in those four games. And, uh, the Browns lost, oh no, they beat the Colts. They won two and lost two, but the two that they


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[Assistant] Could have easily been Ells. Yeah, yeah, those were, yeah, right. And, uh, so I am worried about Justin Fields and the design runs. I mean, he's, in terms of design runs, he's, you know, right there with Lamar as good as any quarterback in the league.


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[Assistant] But I think you're right. When he is trying to make something happen and running that way, he gets himself in trouble that way. So, but what do they do? Like we talked about this I think the last time when they played Lamar about having J.O.K. spy him. Is that part, you think that's part of the game plan?


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[Assistant] Hopefully, both Thornhill and Ward will play, because. Fingers crossed. If, if you, let's say they, let's say they're using J.O.K. to spy, and let's say the front is not really getting adjusted fields consistently. Right. Well, then the next thing is. Cover. We gotta cover. Absolutely. Well, if I got Denzel Ward, right, their only big, their two biggest threats in their passing game are.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, I mean, he's had a nice year. He's, he's, you know, he's playing, Colt Comed is kind of like their David Najoku, like he's a pretty good player.


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[Assistant] Well, yeaah, I'm kinda on the fence on Justin Fields. And at the beginning of the year, I agree with you. At the beginning of the year, I was like, no. And now, I'm not quite yes, but I'm definitely on the fence. And it is a tough decision because...


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[Assistant] If you believe enough, ultimately if you think one of these quarterbacks coming out this year is the next elite superstar, then you probably take them. Sure. But if you're not sure, then you might as well stick with Fields because you can get Marvin Harrison.


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[Assistant] And, you know, the best offensive lineman or the best defensive lineman. Think about if you had, if Justin Fields had Marvin Harrison, DJ Moore, I mean that's a pretty nasty 1-2 combo.


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[Assistant] And again, I think if we continue, and again, I'm not completely sold, we'll see how the playoff goes. But if things continue to trend a little more towards defense, and now, well, I don't need an elite quarterback to win a Super Bowl, I just need a good quarterback to win a Super Bowl. Well, Justin Fields, I don't think he's ever going to be elite personally, but I think he could, I think he could land in that good category. And if you have enough talent around him,


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[Assistant] By the way, in terms of JOK, I just saw this stat. I don't even know how, how they come up with this number or exactly what it means, but I saw this, uh, players with the best run stopping grade on defense. I don't know how they get the number, but JOK has the second best run stopping grade of all defensive players in the NFL.


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[Assistant] I like what you said. I'm not studying guys on other teams well enough. I feel like he has at certainly many times this year played at that level, whether he actually makes it or not.


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[Assistant] The bears are behind. I still think Justin Fields is gonna run. He's a weapon. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And I just, part of the reason I think he'll have more yards than anybody on the Browns.


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[Assistant] Is because even if Jerome Ford plays, he's a little banged up. So I feel like this is a game that Pierre Strong get a few more carries. And I just think the carries will be split, uh, split, split between their three backs this week. So I feel like the Browns, you know, and the Bears are much better against the run than the pass.


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[Assistant] So I don't see anybody on the Browns having over 50 yards, and I think Justin Fields will have in the 50s. Hunt did not practice because of the growing though. Right, he's banged up too. Now, if Ford and Hunt don't play, then maybe Pierre Strong will have a big game.


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[Assistant] I agree, but I'm going to, I'm going to, I looked at this as I think all three running backs are going to be there. You know, I'm being a little optimistic, but uh, you know, Kareem Huntsman on the injury report almost every week and he's played.


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[Assistant] The Browns don't have good fantasy players. No. Except for their defense. In my biggest league, my keeper league, I've been using their defense all year and they've got me a lot of points. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Oh, J, I was going to listen. Jerome Ford did have 65 yards against Denver. That was the game that they just didn't use him in.


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[Assistant] Why did you call them number two receivers? They both were number two.


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[Assistant] He's dealing with some injuries. And Joe Flacco obviously has some chemistry with Elijah Moore, so he looks for him a lot. He does. He's also looked for David Najoku a lot.


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[Assistant] Whereas I think in the passing game, Justin Fields really focuses on DJ Moore. Some of Cole comment, but I think Flacco's more into spreading it around right now.


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[Assistant] And I think Cooper will have a fine game, but I, I think DJ Moore, like I got Justin Fields with like 190 passing yards and I, I wouldn't be surprised if a hundred of them were to DJ Moore. Wow. Big game for Moore then.


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[Assistant] He struggles at the acting. He's gotta be a better actor.


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[Assistant] We saw that melt reel. You could tell. I'm like, his flops are not very good. No, he's got, the guys who get the call, the hands go up and they do a spin around. You gotta do the spin around with the hands up.


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[Assistant] Definitely a change in policy by the lead for sure. Deedee, we just did five fence rider questions. I'll ask them to you rapid fire. You give us the answer. You ready? Okay.


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[Assistant] Okay. Number two, will Joe Flacco throw for more yards than Justin Fields has total yards rushing and passing?


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[Assistant] Will Miles, number three, will Miles Garrett snap his three game sackless skid?


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[Assistant] Number four. Will the Browns have three receivers? Oh, we didn't do this one.


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[Assistant] Okay, will the Browns have three receivers with at least 45 yards versus the Bears? Three, including Titans, three fast catchers.


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[Assistant] That's true. Will DJ Moore have more receiving yards than Amari Cooper?


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[Assistant] Wow. I guess you think the Browns are gonna win because you got the Browns in all these. Will DTR take at least three snaps in this game? No. He took out what, one last week? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it is different. Finally, who will record more sacks in this game? The Browns or the Bears?


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[Assistant] I love it. Jay said before, we were talking about, you know, what Flacco's gonna do. I said I thought he's gonna have 255 yards passing. I don't know, I don't think G gave a specific amount. Oh, it's over three. Okay, so Jay and G got Flacco throwing for over 300 again this week.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you do have flaco fever. It is crazy, like, and who knows how he'll do the rest of the year. You know, maybe he'll fall apart because he's 39. I don't know. They had dots fever in Minnesota a couple weeks ago. Right. So who knows?


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[Assistant] I don't understand why he, nobody called him the whole season. Can you explain that?


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[Assistant] A D&E last thing, are the Steelers finally done?


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[Assistant] Obviously, you know, they went with the veteran and quarterback eventually with Flacco, they did it with Kareem Hunt, they brought him back.


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[Assistant] I'm curious your thoughts, because you're now down to your third right tackle. You're down to your second left tackle, because DeJuan Jones and Jendrick Willis are out for the year. We were saying yesterday, how about the free agent market there too? Like, okay, especially James Hudson at right tackle seems to be struggling.


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[Assistant] Why do you think they haven't gone out and gotten a veteran offensive lineman that's been out on the street just like Joe Flacco?


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[Assistant] He had a terrible game the next week against the Bengals.


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[Assistant] We've seen him have great chemistry with Elijah Moore. He played with the Jets. I mean, he is looking for him a lot. But Amari Cooper's been a little up and down the last couple of weeks. He's been banged up. He's had some drops. Jay suggested maybe he's feeling the after effects of that big hit he took a few weeks ago. You think he's seeing shadows a little bit, Amari?


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[Assistant] Hey Bernie, the last couple of days, we've talked about, uhm,


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[Assistant] I think the reason I thought to ask Bernie is because we talked about the fact also that Leroy has not, had nine receiving touchdowns in a season, which is tied for the second most in Brown's history, which is crazy. And he said you would just tell him, hey, just, just go and not throw you the ball.


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[Assistant] That, you know, the three, maybe the three most important players on the Browns right now, Ward and Miles. Okay, fine. And the third most important player might be, or maybe even number one, I don't know, whatever you want to call it, is Joe Flacco. If I would have told you that in September, you would have said, you're out of your mind. What the hell is wrong with you? Are you doing drugs? And that's where we are.


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[Assistant] So I spent like 500 bucks on this thing.


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[Assistant] Was the wrong size. Plus, we realized we had to get an outlet put in near our toilet because you plug it in.


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[Assistant] So, we got the new one, and on Monday, I had an electrician come to the house, he put it, he installed the new, uh, outlet.


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[Assistant] So, we got it installed and yesterday I used it for the first time. Let me tell you, it's a game changer. On a 1 to 10? It's a 10. No kidding?


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[Assistant] The sprayer is kind of inside and then it comes out when you're ready to spray. And depending on, you push a button, whether you're a man or a woman, so it knows where to spray and like the right spots. Now will your wife and son use this too, do you think? My son, my son used it. It looks very high tech, you know, it's like.


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[Assistant] And. Can you take a picture of it and put, bring it into the show? We'd like to see it. Absolutely. And I didn't have, and what's nice is usually at night, if I have to pee in the middle of the night, I got to turn on the light because I can't see what the hell's going on.


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[Assistant] I do, well, I sleep with this thing. Mine's just called nose pillows. It's like the little nostrils. It just goes in my, and when you first get it, it's really annoying. It's harder than you used to. But now it's great. Now I sleep well. I used to sleep terribly. It's a big difference. It helps. Huge, yeaah. I used to stop breathing all the time.


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[Assistant] It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. By the way, if you are a Stern fan, one of his guys died. Who? Ralph, you know this guy? Oh yes! It was like his stylist. Of what?


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[Assistant] I don't know, just fifties, I don't know what he thought, I didn't hear that detail, but.


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[Assistant] By the way, the Browns on Monday were three point dog. Yesterday they were a one point favorite, now they're a three point favorite. As things are trending, that Trevor Lawrence is not going to play.


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[Assistant] The difference is, if Trevor Lawrence was playing, it would be a big edge for Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] Instead, you got a slight edge for, uh, for the Browns. I, I thought C.J. Beathard when he came in last week did a decent job. Yea, he did. Very well. He played pretty well. Yea. And you talked about it. You know him. I mean, you say he's a tough guy. He's a leader. Yes, he is. He didn't seem, it didn't feel like the moment was big. He came into the game in a big spot.


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[Assistant] So I think he's fine, but Joe, obviously, now the big advantage that Bethard has over Flacco is he's been in Jacksonville for two years. That's it. So he knows that system. Right. Whereas Joe's still new to the system and new to the receivers. But in terms, but in the end, I'll go with


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[Assistant] Show having more experience and played a full game last week to give him a slight edge, but, uh, not massive.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think he was four or five. Yeah, he made a number of good throws in his two drives that he played. So he's not, he's not, it's not like this is a Nathan Peterman situation. No, not at all.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you have to have a backup that you can trust. He doesn't have to be necessarily an older player, but it's gotta be somebody that, that is not a disaster if you put him in there. I agree. And some team, like, we saw it happen when Arizona went to Clayton Toon, and in fairness to him, it was only one game, but it was a disaster. It wasn't. Yeah, he was awful, and so, yeah.


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[Assistant] didn't count against the might. I just don't, I m know that that would make because like who doesn't


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[Assistant] His numbers are really good. He has the advantage of having the best talent around him without a doubt. And I think the best coach.


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[Assistant] In fairness, it's, you know, there's really nothing out there. Give me any examples.


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[Assistant] What if you're a germaphobe and you'd rather fist bump than shake hands? What do you think about that? That's fine. That's fine. That's fine.


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[Assistant] In these last couple of games, Miles Garrett's been banged up. He's playing, but he's not obviously 100%. And Denzel Ward has been out of the lineup. And their defense-


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[Assistant] Okay, so I want to get to that. So the last two weeks, their defense, which was lights out for most of the season, has been at best mediocre the last two weeks. It's just Ward.


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[Assistant] And Miles being banged up, even though they're the two best players, is that an excuse? Should they have dropped this far with those injuries?


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[Assistant] Have you talked personally with, with McDaniel at all or, or no?


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[Assistant] I saw mock draft too. The kid who's 10, Tommy White, the kid from LSU, I watched him in the College World Series. This guy's a hitter. I remember him too. I like him a lot. He's projected number 10 right now, but we got a long way to go.


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[Assistant] Wait, it's too soon yet. He actually got traded to the Angels last year, and he did a nice job in a part-time role, so I- No, no, no. Here's why it's not too soon.


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[Assistant] Overall, it's pretty good. I mean, most of those first overall picks, there's been first overall picks in the NFL that bust too. I mean, NBA. Yeah, for that matter. You know what? Here's what's really shocking.


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[Assistant] Mark Lewis, I don't even remember. Now, wasn't he a shortstop? I don't even know. I don't know Mark Lewis. I don't know Steve Dunning. I don't, I don't remember Steve Dunning. Uh, he actually, I think threw a no hitter for


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[Assistant] But the Guardians had a stretch between like, Sabathia and Lindor. They nailed them. No, they got them all wrong. In between.


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[Assistant] And they were talking about, they, Steve Phillips was saying, the Guardians gotta spend money, which he knows they're not gonna, which I, we know that. He's like, they gotta sign T. Oscar Hernandez. He said they should trade for Tyler O'Neal, somebody I was talking about last year. Now he's got a lot of power, but he's missed a lot of time due to injury, but he probably wouldn't have to give up much to get him.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then signed T. Oscar Hernandez. To me, that would be great. And they also talked about moving Kwan to center, which is what they gotta do. They gotta move Kwan to center.


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[Assistant] When you first drafted Joe Coach, did you, did you know right away he was going to be an NFL player?