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[Assistant] I don't know. And so uhm, I gotta win. I think the Rams are gonna be bad. I think they're gonna be bad too.


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[Assistant] Now the hope is that the Bengals have clinched something if you play them.


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[Assistant] Yes they are. Well, I mean, most Eastern time zone teams play one o'clock games.


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[Assistant] I think, uh, the Browns and the Jets have the two widest variances in the AFC. In my opinion.


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[Assistant] Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, how many other teams in the AFC have that big a variance? I think the Jets, because is Aaron Rodgers still great? They could win 12. If he's not, they could be a disaster. Look, Russ to Denver was an absolute


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[Assistant] By far. Yeah, but you know what? You guys said it's the hardest quarter and yet three of the four games are at home, so. I know, but that's


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[Assistant] Which is a very famous baseball season, right? And you guys were decent. I think you finished like 8 games over 500, something like that. Decent? The team was awful in 85.


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[Assistant] Oh, they're building a new one then. Well, stadium buildings. Even in the minor leagues, like I was doing play-by-play in the minor leagues, 99-01 in the New York Penn League. And some of those stadiums, did you play in the Penn League?


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[Assistant] You didn't. But some of those stadiums like, in towns like Batavia and Oneonta, I mean they were dumps.


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[Assistant] No, I'm not. I never count the Cardinals out, but I thought they'd win the division going away because I thought Milwaukee would go backwards this year. Right. And nobody's really good. Even Pittsburgh got off to a good start. They've lost 9 of 10, but I'm stunned how bad the Cardinals have been except against the Cubs the other day.


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[Assistant] And power, and the guardians have nothing. You know, they, they need a right fielder. I mean, you, you got Dylan Carlson, you got Tyler O'Neal, who's, I know he's hurt right now, but Burleson, uh, the kid Jordan Walker, the thing they just sent down.


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[Assistant] You know what Ray, it's very similar to the Jim Morris story which happened after you. I mean, he had never played in the big leagues. So it's different. But in terms of the comeback, he just came back from never playing. But the comeback part of it is very similar to his story.


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[Assistant] By the way, my favorite thing about the new rules with banning the shift. But that at bat, was amazing. Once in a million.


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[Assistant] One in a million. I know that when I first started watching baseball, you knew like watching it from behind the pitcher and the ball was hit and you knew as a big baseball fan whether it was hit or not most of the time. Off the bat you knew. Based on that.


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[Assistant] Backed a little more the way it used to be in that, in that way. And I just think, I think you, you're getting all the low scoring games are flying. And the high scoring games are taking longer, but who cares? They're high scoring, they're fun in that way. I just think it's awesome to watch.


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[Assistant] I love that movie, but Tim Robbins did not look like a pitcher in that. Yeah, well, Charlie Sheen didn't exactly look like a pitcher either.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, what do you, I mean, did the pitcher, pitchers that were pitching come back and pitch? Yes. Yeaah, that would obviously never happen.


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[Assistant] Remember when they flew? Remember they had traded away Doug Mirabelli who was, uh, was Wakefield's personal catcher? I don't even remember this.


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[Assistant] But even until recently there was still six or seven, now there's only four. So you can't, like,


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[Assistant] They work out like crazy and maybe that's why there's so many injuries now because the guys are.


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[Assistant] There was a game between the Mets and the Braves, sometime in the 80s. I can't remember what year it was. It might have been 86 when the Mets won the World Series. But...


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[Assistant] They played a game on the 4th of July, we gotta look this up, they played a game on the 4th of July that ended at like 5 in the morning. They played 18 innings, there was a rain delay, and the game continued when Rick Camp


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[Assistant] Who was not a good hitter pitcher. One of the worst hitting pitchers. Hit a grand slam, I believe, to send the game to more extra innings. If any of that's wrong, correct me. I know the game went to like 4 o'clock. And they did a fireworks show at like 5 o'clock in the morning. I don't think it was 86 because...


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[Assistant] You got seven feet from one finger. Looking skeptical at that floating Mikey head.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and obviously there were probably plenty of people that knew, but they just used the funny one.


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[Assistant] You know, it's, it's gonna get, it's gonna get done, we're gonna get through it. I know.


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[Assistant] I've made games that are too short. Ones that are too long. Ones that are probably the right length but if you get stuck early on then there's nothing to do but to quit with frustration. Hopefully with Destruction Darius 2 I'll do it better.


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[Assistant] You know when you start a game, get into it, think, this is good, and then it ends? Yeah, most of the games I've made are too short. And it seems like such an easy mistake to avoid. I'm sure that any gamer who hasn't made a game themselves would love to make levels for a game that they enjoy. The only thing that's stopping them from creating their own is, well, making the game itself.


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[Assistant] But take it from me. If you KNOW how, then making the game is easy. I mean, it's hard, but it's rewarding and very mentally stimulating. You're always making decisions, always making progress. It's just that bit that comes afterwards, when you have to make all the levels, that it becomes hard. Because it's too easy. If that makes sense. It's just time-consuming. And dull.


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[Assistant] I recently made a video about this mid-development hell, which is largely focused around adding polish and crushing bugs. It's an unexpected hold-up in your game-making journey and as such tends to defeat those who don't expect it. But depending on how you've made your game,


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[Assistant] You might also have to chuck adding levels in there, too. The level editor I've made for Destruction Darius 2 was hard to implement, but now it's in place, it allows me to pump out new levels in a matter of minutes.


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[Assistant] But with most of the games that I've made, I've jumped straight in with the level-making as I've entered mid-development hell.


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[Assistant] And I normally don't last long. To wreck an aeromine, for example. I really had to force myself to add that second level. I'm pleased that I did, since it more than doubled the length of the game. The thing is, I loved this game. I played those 2 levels to death. But the idea of making another for it? MY GOD. I had a mental block there.


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[Assistant] I imagine getting there in a year or so when in reality it would have just taken a day.


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[Assistant] I blame this on my age. I was about 14 at the time and was way too easily distracted by new projects.


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[Assistant] I think I spent about half an hour drawing some boots for a house level and the idea of decorating the entire place in that much detail was enough to make me give up completely.


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[Assistant] I can certainly say that with age, I've become a lot more patient and better at prioritising the time I spend on a project.


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[Assistant] Still rubbish at it though. Deathgiver 2 was made 6 years after. I was older and more focused. The game's engine was made in like, 6 hours. But the game itself took half a year before it was done. In reality it was more like 50 hours, spread out across a few days where I forced myself at gunpoint to work on it.


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[Assistant] It's funny. Most of the time I spend too much time on the game's engine and not enough on the levels themselves. But Deathgiver 2 is the one where it took so long to finish that I kind of wish I had justified spending more time on the core gameplay, which only took me 6 hours from start to finish.


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[Assistant] After which it was just the levels that needed making. Lightcubed is another short-game.


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[Assistant] It even has a user review telling me it's too short! This game turned out how I wanted it to. I deliberately kept the concept simple, so that I could spend my time levelling up my polishing ability. You know, like to brush up on the later stages of game design, as I was a bit rusty at them.


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[Assistant] All in all it was a great success. But as a game, it was just too short. The gameplay was too limited and I relied on replayability to add length to the experience. As the main appeal of the game was about shaving seconds off your time as you mastered your technique. Which is fine, for the type of gamer who enjoys doing that.


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[Assistant] The closest I've got to this is probably Sundown Shambles or Santa's Atnas.


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[Assistant] I mean, they're not THAT long, but they don't have the gameplay to keep the player's attention to the end. Half the length with faster-paced gameplay would have made these a lot more popular. And then there are games like Jimmy's Unlikely Resurrection, where you have to beat each level before moving onto the next.


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[Assistant] Great for players who are determined enough to do this. But many lack the skill, get stuck early on and give up.


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[Assistant] This is the real tragedy, cos these are potential fans of your game who have been deterred by an uneven difficulty curve. The second game was the same, but I later changed it so that if you download it now you'll find that you have immediate access to each of the game's chapters. Can't beat a level? Just skip to the next chapter.


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[Assistant] But, of course this upsets the hardcore gamers, who enjoy a challenge and the feeling of overcoming it by all means necessary. This is kind of rendered obsolete when other people can simply bypass the challenge and then continue on their way.


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[Assistant] I think you get the idea. And honestly, the feedback I get from each of my games has been from a handful of players, at most.


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[Assistant] A small enough sample to seriously change the sort of feedback my game would have received. If launched on Saturday then it might have been met with praise because the 6 gamers who rated it found the difficulty curve and gameplay to their liking. But if the same game had been released on the Sunday, then maybe the 6 reviewers that day would have found it boring or too difficult. Not their fault. They're not trolling.


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[Assistant] They were just looking for something else. Problem is, how do you make a game that caters for every type of gamer? Well, you can't.


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[Assistant] But that doesn't stop me from trying. So, I've reflected on what I've done wrong in the past. In my next video in this series, I'll talk about how I hope to apply what I've learned to my next game, Destruction Darius 2.


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[Assistant] We were told that he could possibly be going up near Turkey Point for some type of terrorist act. That's all we knew.


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[Assistant] He turned into the Burger King. I put my patrol car right behind his car.


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[Assistant] Within hand reach, as well as the ammunition. And I believe they had loaded magazines in the center console.


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[Assistant] For the rifles. When we found all the weapons, we were convinced that we had just stopped the mass shooting.


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[Assistant] Hey, while you're having all those problems, can you just never fix them for the ones down here?


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[Assistant] We don't want to see another stupid influencer fall in to the volcano.


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[Assistant] Well, this one's on another island, so we kinda just... leave it be?


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[Assistant] More like our native indigenous people will leave offerings for our goddess Pele.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go before this one speaks again. Well we don't want those ner-


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[Assistant] G. Bush is here. We're gonna have an appearance by, uh, Mike Polk a little bit later. Steve Becker, our executive producer, flew into town to grace us with his presence.


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[Assistant] And check out my latest podcast on Bet Rivers, the Bull in Cleveland, where I give a big breakdown on the Cleveland Guardians. All right, let's get to it because we got so much we want to get to today. Went 2-0 yesterday, I hit with the Diamondbacks and the Rays, both had to win by two, they both won by three.


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[Assistant] Both these teams' offenses are on fire. I don't love either pitcher in this game. I expect this to be a high-scoring game. I think we'll see 14-15 runs in this game. Like an 8-7 game, something really crazy, high-scoring.


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[Assistant] Guys, it's an exciting day to be here. In just a few minutes, we're going to play some never seen, never before seen footage of rehearsal. I assume our first couple of rehearsals, it was me, G, Jay and Brad.


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[Assistant] And Steve, oh Steve was in the mix too, right. And this was the week before we went on the air. Of course it was May 9th, 2022 that we debuted the show. I spoke to a couple of people over the last 24 hours like, there's Steve. We're like, really? It's been a year already? It has flown by guys.


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[Assistant] Fun rehearsals and everything, but it's, it's, it's unique for me because I was part of a startup at the athletic and I had everyone telling me this is never going to last. What are you doing?


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[Assistant] And you know, when this show started, there was talking, what are they doing over there? Is this really going to work or not? Yeah, it is going to work. And it's been a lot of fun. I enjoy doing this and one year down and many, many more to come. That's right.


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[Assistant] Chat and bust each other's balls off the air just like we do on the air. Actually more viciously off the air because there's things we can't talk about. What's that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, much more efficiency off the air. And also, while for me, this is only one year of television after 27 years of radio, but what I do know about TV, because I've heard it from guys like Steve, our director, who's been in TV for a long time. I've heard it from Jay, who's obviously been in TV for a long time, and Jay will be here. Unfortunately, weird timing with his


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[Assistant] That this, this chemistry that we have, not just the guys on here, because we all do have great chemistry with each other no matter who's on the show, but also the chemistry between the guys who are on the panel and the guys who are behind the scenes. Earl, Anthony, we bust their balls just as much. Steve, we bust his balls. Mike,


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[Assistant] The most. But, we all love each other. We, we, and we, when we do socialize as a group.


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[Assistant] We all socialize. It's not behind the scenes and in front of the scenes. There's none of that. These guys are on TV quite a bit. We always show them a little bit. There's Steve, our director. You know, he's a man of little words, but, uh,


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[Assistant] But he's great, and everybody loves everybody, and I think that's what's made this so special. But, and our, we love our contributors too, who you'll see, you'll hear from Aditi today, you'll hear from Dequel today, you'll hear from Tim Couch, you'll hear from Leroy Hoard.


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[Assistant] This doesn't work without you folks. We appreciate the loyalty and support that you have shown.


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[Assistant] That's why, okay, sometimes you dress up your dog, and those people are a little weird, and I'm not gonna lie, I put my, uh, dog, uh, crash.


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[Assistant] Alright, there you go. That is some never before seen behind the scenes footage with awful colors and awful graphics. And Jay is here now. What's up, Jay? Sitting in an unusual seat.


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[Assistant] The behind the scenes of our practice week footage with the terrible background, the awful colors, the awful graphics. Now the good old days. We haven't had your thoughts of course on the anniversary.


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[Assistant] And even the clips in the short ad was something we didn't really plan. I think it's worked out. Uh, we, the commercials really are just part of the show. We give you uninterrupted content for two hours and nobody else is doing that.


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[Assistant] Well, maybe it is. Well, here's the thing. I think the Browns, as an organization since Jimmy Haslam has been here,


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[Assistant] Well, guys, we got, I mean, we still have 11 awards to get to today, and that's what we're gonna spend a lot of the show on, uh, throughout the day, and we've got some of our favorite, uh, contributors that are coming on, including the great Joe Thomas. He is gonna join us in just a couple of minutes, Mikey, that's correct?


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[Assistant] That is amazing. Apparently Crazy Legs is in and Amici's not, I'm being told. Oh, so I had it reversed. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] What is your daughter doing? What is her sport?


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[Assistant] We talked about his fifth year option the other day and obviously the Browns picked it up. It's a big year for him. He's had a lot of injuries the last couple of years. His play has been up and down. I brought up the point the other day. I think you may have even brought it up for the first time here that


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[Assistant] You know, for him, there's the extra pressure of, we're used to seeing you play left tackle, you set such a high bar that it was impossible. Jedrick Wills was never going to be Joe Thomas. So, but we have that, that's the one position for the Browns that we have such a high standard that he can't possibly live up to.


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[Assistant] Not everybody can be Joe Thomas. Almost nobody can be. So, he's gotta be the best version of himself. What are you expecting from him this year?


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[Assistant] Joe, we know he would probably make a good, uh, sumo wrestler. So my question for you is, of every teammate you ever played with,


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[Assistant] Every one of your teammates, we're putting together in their primes.


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[Assistant] Even if you want to say Deshaun Watson's a bad guy, but don't apologize for being excited for him being on the team.


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[Assistant] And yea, you're a hypocrite like we all are. Oh, cause we were ripping brothels burger and ripping the Steelers.


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[Assistant] And just admit you're a hypocrite, but admit something else. All these other fan bases around the country for these teams that have scrubbed quarterbacks like Carolina or all these other teams that were trying to get to Sean Watson, their fans are going to pretend they dodged a bullet. They're going to say, oh, he's a bad guy. I wouldn't want him on my team. They're all full of crap. They all want him on their team.


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[Assistant] I don't care whatever question you got hung up on last year. It is a failure that you are a one seed and you're an MVP and you can't beat the friggin heat in the first round at home and you go out like that. It's a failure.


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[Assistant] You said July 12th through the 16th? July 12th through the 16th. Nice. Good. Good, good, good. Alright Mike, well now we gotta get to the top five. You know, top five is something earlier days of the show we were doing every day. In recent, in recent months we don't do it as consistently.


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[Assistant] But often it's been a very funny segment. In fact, it was referenced in our awards with Joe Thomas winning the award for best guest. That segment we did top five cheeses. And now you have a top five that you haven't even told us really about.


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[Assistant] Oh man, Mike, I thought we had something special, you and me.


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[Assistant] meetings. Mike holds this whole thing together, man, and the hours that he puts in and the rundowns he comes up with and the way that he keeps this moving and the way that he's got four hands back there.


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[Assistant] And most of the time, even when he's telling us to shut the F up, he still goes with it.


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[Assistant] We almost could have had three, we could have had, you know. I just think Jay's Take was a traditional band.


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[Assistant] He was arguing with me that there was a better than a 50% chance. I know!


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[Assistant] And it worked out nicely for the Browns that actually the Steelers won the game. That, that had to kill you, didn't it?


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[Assistant] It was so funny because obviously that morning was the day after the first game. Yeaah. I felt like absolute trash. If it had been just a random day, I would have just taken off. Sure.


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[Assistant] We have never said, oh they're using him too much. Since Stefanski has been here, I think it's been overblown that he hasn't used Nick Chauvin. That's not true. It's my opinion. I agree with you. That's not true. But there are certain times where it's a fair argument.


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[Assistant] What locks them up is the winners and it was the best choice is that they were clumped in together instead of being separate. That makes them unsung. Because they didn't even get their own


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[Assistant] Uh, I barely know it because I've only been working at TV for a year. But I know enough to know that putting together all these awards


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[Assistant] Is a lot of work. It is a ton of work. It's a bunch of couple of minute videos and it seems like, well, it's a big deal if you don't, but if you know, you know, and we know that these guys did a lot of work to get that because I'm looking for all of that.


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[Assistant] I texted you guys about this yesterday because they're coming to town in four weeks. I want, unfortunately,


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[Assistant] Alright, we'll see you for the second anniversary.


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[Assistant] Okay, I like that. Uh, overtime show today is going to be open for everybody to see, correct?


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb. Donathan Mitchell. Jose Ramirez.


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[Assistant] What happened when we hit the foreclosure crisis is that all of a sudden


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[Assistant] Millions of families lost their homes. They became renters competing in the same rental housing market.


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[Assistant] And at the same time, incomes were going down even if you could keep your job. And that led to a rental affordability crisis in this country that's as bad as it's ever been in our history.


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[Assistant] And so the idea of the low-income housing tax credit emerged as a way to create a new public-private partnership that would allow more affordable housing to get built.


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[Assistant] The affordability challenges that we have are a crisis.


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[Assistant] But vouchers on a silver bullet. We need...


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[Assistant] Uh, a housing policy that focuses on building more affordable housing. That's why the tax credit is important. So that more housing is built and that it's more affordable.


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[Assistant] Oh, a car! We're jaywalking. Okay, here in the OC, these cars move slow. Are we in the OC? We're in OC right now. That was like a show, right?


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[Assistant] How do you get it? Oh, there you go. Ohhhh. Look. It looks like egg. It is eggy. Oh, it's beautifully eggy though.


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[Assistant] And you can adjust the- That's the beauty too about Boba. 10%, 25%, you know, 50%, 51. You can really choose. 51. Just dial in, you know.


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[Assistant] Is it carrot-y? Do you wow, don't choke.


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[Assistant] Fantastic, thank you. I just wanna say real quick. Phil bringing out the drinks right now. Like literally taking orders. This is not just a show. He's not just doing that cause we're here. Like this is actually...


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[Assistant] Yes. Normal chicken first. Okay. Yeah, that popcorn chicken is delicious. What is this saying? I've not had this, but this vegan one looks all the same. You haven't had this?


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[Assistant] It's just, it's just like, makes you wanna cry, you know? Really? That's emotional. Yeah. This was a place where I felt like I had a sense of my identity. You know, I had a place in the world at a boba shop.


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[Assistant] Right. And so I had my boba and I had my popcorn chicken. Whereas like, you know, at school it was like, oh, this is like meatloaf and, you know, hot dogs. I'm like, oh, well cool. It's not my experience, but like, this is me. This is mine.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's, that's awesome. Your passion definitely shows through because this tastes amazing.


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[Assistant] Okay, let's do this, come on. I don't know how much I should serve for. I'm just gonna keep... Woah!


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[Assistant] The light, man, this has really opened my mind to what boba can actually be.


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[Assistant] Segregation was something that was eating us away. Most of the focus of civil rights work had been in the South.


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[Assistant] But by the mid-60s we were making that turn towards the north, and in the north,


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[Assistant] And so it's no mistake that the Fair Housing Act, which had been stalled in Congress, is passed just days after Martin Luther King is assassinated.


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[Assistant] The Fair Housing Act was now saying we're going to aggressively and affirmatively look for ways to create opportunities for integrated housing and to encourage local jurisdictions to do so.


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[Assistant] This is really a very, very dire emergency.


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[Assistant] For whole swaths of the population in this country, they are lifelong renters.


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[Assistant] And yet, we don't talk about them and we don't talk about the challenges they face, and it almost is behind the veil. It's just simply not part of our national conversation.


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[Assistant] What happens to the millions of people who need to be able to find affordable rental housing to raise their families?


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[Assistant] Truth is, it's early. We're still working on it. You're joking.


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[Assistant] So that's the whole thing with, with, uh, with our colleague companies and colleague giving and our charitable contribution.


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[Assistant] You know, we have all of our employees give a thousand dollars. So I give a thousand dollars to all of our employees that they give to their organization.


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[Assistant] Yeah, of their choice. And you would be shocked of how many people don't even know how to do that. They're like, alright, they're asking for what a 501C3 is. You know, we have to have our 501C3 number in order to give money to them. We need their number.


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[Assistant] And so it's really cool. That's been the coolest part of colleague giving is to be able to teach other people how to give.


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[Assistant] I like all sports actually. Uh, I don't think there's a decision. It's just like when opportunities, you know, arise, uh, just like the guardians, uh, you know, last year, a couple of years ago, I mean, that just, that opportunity just, you know, arose. They needed to sell, you know, part of the team and we were just happen to be part of a group and we were just


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, they said, do you guys want to be involved? And so we did. I had the opportunity to actually be involved in the, uh, like the whole thing that's going on with the Washington commanders. Oh wow. They asked, you know, do you want to be involved? No, you want to hold the Browns.


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[Assistant] Well, I'll tell you, uh, a couple of weeks ago at Talladega, I think we lost four of our five cars.


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[Assistant] I love all sport and you asked me a question before, what sports do I, how do I?


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[Assistant] How do I choose what I get involved in? And again, it's the opportunity. I love the calves. You know, for the first time this, uh,


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[Assistant] That's a great seat, isn't it? Love it. Love the Cavs. So obviously behind the Guardians, love the Browns. So just all the Northeast Ohio sports team.


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[Assistant] And, and now, and I know we're going to talk about it, but, but the Collet Company Championship and PGA, so at Firestone, when the opportunity came up to get involved in golf and really


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[Assistant] We try to put our muscle behind, you know, the PGA and a great, uh, PGA golf event here in North East Ohio, right?


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[Assistant] Isn't it, so even what you're saying is, like, with the waste management, I don't think it's something you can just create. Like, everybody- We just talked about that. We just talked about that. Like, the masters.


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[Assistant] And that's, that's, that's what you do. That's what we're doing over at the, uh, Guardian Stadium. If you go to the Guardians game, do you guys go to the Guardians game? Absolutely. Yes. I mean, I'm going tonight. It's my, it's actually my nephew's 21st birthday.


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[Assistant] So, I think last time I was on the show, I brought donuts. Yeah. Okay. Which we love. I miss that. And uh, but, but I heard it's your one year anniversary and I want to bring something cool. So we brought a couple of


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[Assistant] I hope you all had a good holiday break, but now it's time to get back to business. You're gonna cancel suitor loans, finally. Let's put a hold on that one for now. Florida, where's your governor? Who's asking? The literal federal government.


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[Assistant] I don't talk to cops. Okay, what about Grady Judd? I talk to one cop. Whatever. Where is Governor DeSantis?


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[Assistant] My governor went missing last year too. He didn't go missing, he went on a business trip. Okay? He still wasn't around to stop me. I like your spot, kid. Spunk. I said what I meant.


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[Assistant] Just get him back soon, please. Your governor has to use his position to keep you safe.


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[Assistant] Why don't you do something about that? Oh, come on, California. We both know there's no federal solution to COVID. Wee is a strong word there.


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[Assistant] What could I even do? Send a bunch of at-home COVID tests? Uh, yeah, uhm.


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[Assistant] Sounds like a French Decepticon. Man, that's just what I say when I drop big crawfish. How does that go? Oh-ma-craw-fish.


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[Assistant] Science doesn't pay too well, huh? Hey! Science pays!


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[Assistant] Well? Does it pay this much? Does science pay two dollars? Please don't.


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[Assistant] The quarantine period is now five days. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] And also, it's okay to call your ex while drunk. I didn't need that part, but okay. And you only have to brush your teeth for one minute now, so.


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[Assistant] Was it supposed to be more? Yes! You're supposed to brush for all of Chip Skylark's hit song, My Shiny Teeth and Me. Huh, weird.


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[Assistant] What about cruise ships? There is not enough money in the world to make me say those are safe.


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[Assistant] No, like all the trees. Ooh, look at me. I'm Colorado. I smoke a lot of weed. That's my whole personality, even though I keep telling people it ain't. It's like the biggest brush fire ever. Don't worry, Colorado. Some of us aren't complete idiots.


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[Assistant] You think I'm complete? I'll have Fima pay for a full 75% of all the damages. Just stay safe.


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[Assistant] How is she still here? I've been busy. Let's just go before she speaks again.


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[Assistant] Florida Housing wants to know how much is it going to cost you, Carlisle, to actually build this thing? They tell Florida Housing...


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[Assistant] It's not a very complicated scheme. It's a lie for money. The contract is inflated, so this lie enabled them to get excess of $2 million just on this one deal.


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[Assistant] It was amazing. I mean, this is a huge amount of money. And this is all on top of the tens of millions that was made in legitimate fees and profits.


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[Assistant] Now unfortunately this is where good people make bad decisions. Michael Cox does not go to Florida Housing. Michael Cox does not go to the FBI. Michael Cox says nothing and accepts the money.


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[Assistant] This is a fake construction company. They should set up shhh construction.


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[Assistant] These housing agencies don't have a lot of funding. They don't have a lot of manpower. Looking at Florida Housing, it's a small office with a limited staff that is in charge of managing hundreds of millions of dollars in state, local, and federal money.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, I don't think it's true. We'll see what the future holds, but there's a lot that needs to be looked at and...


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[Assistant] There's a lot of people that need to be held accountable for what's been going on and what's to come, I think, in the future.


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[Assistant] You know, I can't comment on this. I don't know. Maybe later, but not now.


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[Assistant] I can't say I know it, but it's probably best if I don't say anything about this.


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[Assistant] There's not a lot of documentation provided to the housing agencies and the underwriters other than basic building block documents, the application, contracts, uh, affirmation letters. So it's a, it's really a program of trust.


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[Assistant] The developments are phenomenal and people need it. There's no need to extract extra money. It's like killing the golden goose. That's what they're doing.


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[Assistant] Look, I don't have the metrics to tell you, but I know that this fraud doesn't just reside in South Florida. There's too much money involved. And, you know, based upon information we've looked at, this fraud exists in other jurisdictions.


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[Assistant] I get it. I'm not against you making a profit. And this case isn't a case against capitalism or rich people. But this is money that was going to build low-income housing in Florida.


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[Assistant] And it didn't. The money that they took could have built hundreds of additional extra units.


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[Assistant] Especially at this time. Look there's a housing crisis across the United States.


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[Assistant] You spent the next several years taking the money and a lot of people are going to wonder why you did that. Why did you take it?


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[Assistant] Joe Biden was always fascinated by the Kennedy mystique.


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[Assistant] He really saw himself as a natural heir to that tradition.


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[Assistant] Joe Biden's always been very sensitive to the perception that he's being disrespected. And when that happens, those are the moments when he tends to erupt.


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[Assistant] It's an odd role in public life to be known as a person associated with grief.


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[Assistant] And Joe Biden never wanted to be that person, actually. It was not how he imagined his own political future.


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[Assistant] He ended up being this public political symbol of suffering and of resilience. And eventually he embraced it. But he actually didn't want to be that.


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[Assistant] One of his senior advisors had to call him and have what she described to me as the conversation you never want to have with a candidate, which is


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[Assistant] In its own way, it's the culmination of all of his training and ambition and his mistakes and his regrets and his attempts to be better.


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[Assistant] And it, and it came together. At last.


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[Assistant] Donald Jr. was apparently not speaking to his father.


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[Assistant] And Donald's mother said to someone who was very close to her, I don't know who my son is anymore.


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[Assistant] I can be a good center for you all. I make this one promise that, uh, if in


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[Assistant] Six months or so, there's a conflict between my being a good father and being a good senator, which I hope will not occur. I thought it would, but I hope it won't. I promise you that I will, uh,


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[Assistant] We'll contact Governor-Elect Tribute, as I had earlier, and, uh, tell him that, uh, we can always get another senator, but they can't get another father.


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[Assistant] Wow, okay. We're currently at Coachella. The food in there is pricey. So we've come out with some cheap alternatives. Genuinely, I'm still trying to get over how many different chains of fast food there are in the States. One of which is called Jack in the Box? Yep.


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[Assistant] Oh, they do churros! Loaded breakfast sandwich! Wait, what's a sourdough jack?


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[Assistant] That's so well. This is not that different from Taco Bell. For 50p? You know, not everyone can afford to be a bell head. Mmm.


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[Assistant] And now from Jack in the Box to Snack in the Boxu. Boxu is a monthly subscription service that delivers premium Japanese snacks and tea pairings right to your door. Each Boxu features a new theme, providing a gourmet journey through Japan every month.


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[Assistant] You're probably wondering, what's in a Bokksu? Well, the first box you receive is called Seasons of Japan. It's curated by Bokksu's snack experts and it's designed to give you a taste of the four seasons of Japan and also what it's like to receive Bokksu throughout the year. Following Seasons of Japan, you'll receive a new monthly themed box like this one.


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[Assistant] This month's theme is Tanjubi, which means birthday. To celebrate turning six, Bokksu have put together an epic collection of their members' top-rated snacks and their employee favorites. Each Bokksu comes with a cultural booklet which contains information about this month's theme, the snacks, where they come from, and even Japanese words for you to learn.


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[Assistant] That's really good. These are all so good. I mean, I know this is an advert, but seriously, these are good. Alright, if you want to try some of these awesome Japanese snacks and support the channel, click the link on the description. Use the code JOLLY to get $15 off your first box who order.


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[Assistant] Wow! It's just like circular bread! Oh!


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[Assistant] Wow, Jack has outdone himself. There's two fried eggs in there, sausage, we've got bacon and ham, and American cheese. It looks great, man.


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[Assistant] Does Jack know what he's talking about? Does Jack know? Jack, he's only gone and bloody done it. That is good. I like that. I really like that. I mean, it tastes hella bad for you. Massive guilty pleasure. The meat there, it's a lot less


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. You're making that look good. I want that fresh tomato. Look at that.


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[Assistant] Exactly. This is the kind of thing that they're only still doing it because it's what they do. Not because it's good, not because it has any merit at all. I don't like those. Next up. Oh my gosh. Pre-packaged New York style cheesecake and churros, which smell incredible. Smell those. Look at this.


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[Assistant] You know, I genuinely feel a similar sense of trepidation about what's gonna happen over the next 12 hours to my digestive system, as I've felt after some of our spicy challenges, because that tastes, it tastes so good, but in a way that it feels like you're gonna pay a price. Yeah. Well, on that note guys,


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[Assistant] Thanks very much for joining us in this journey through Jack and his box and all of the goodies inside. Thanks Ducky for joining us. Indeed.


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[Assistant] Joe Biden comes off as someone who has a lot of self-confidence.


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[Assistant] But obviously there's an imposter syndrome dynamic at work here because if you feel like you have to make up stuff about yourself and invent stories that are not your own and then do it in such a self-destructive way in which you can be caught, that speaks to a level of character and certainly insecurity.


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[Assistant] He was seen as yesterday's news. He was a very rickety ship. Uh, he was not as eloquent as he was 30 years ago, like most people wouldn't be. And uhm, he also, you know, he was saddled with a very, very long record, some of it going back to the 70s.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's amazing. I actually, this is my second tour with Tank. First tour I did with him was on a revenge tour, but he wasn't an artist yet. He was just on a school trip.


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[Assistant] Stokely got touched, you know what I mean? So I felt like the whole world was like looking at us, asking like, alright, what they gonna do next?


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[Assistant] For like, how I view it at least from how he constructed it and how everybody's playing their part. Members only is gonna be around for like a good...


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[Assistant] Cuz I'ma be real about it, I ain't finna sit here and just cap about the shit.


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[Assistant] When he was making It Wasn't Enough, like that EP, so when he was living in Orlando, I was living with him.


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[Assistant] Potential to its ability that everybody wanted to reach to.


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[Assistant] If they keep viewing it like that, you know what I mean? Cause it's all about how you view it too from a consumer standpoint.


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[Assistant] You feel me? Like, alright, for instance, like, and this ain't even like, this ain't even no beef towards him at all. Cause in my heart, I know I ain't got no problem towards him. But this is just me saying it, just being like on some real nigga shit, you know what I mean? Like, I had on a song that I had first day out,


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[Assistant] Was, uh, originally with, uh, boy crowd wolfing, it was supposed to be Rob Banks.


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[Assistant] I cut, I didn't cut Lam's verse, the engineers sent it to me fucked up so Lam's verse couldn't be on it. I cut Rob's verse, Rob didn't have a problem with it. I cut Denzel Curry's verse, and I guess cause, you know, I didn't get to him and I didn't let him know like, oh bro I cut your verse or whatever.


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[Assistant] But I guess he took it some type of way. I go on Twitter, like probably like a week later after that, uh, event happened, and then I see some shit where he was, where a fan was like, oh, you should do a song with Wifos Funeral. And he was like, nah.


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[Assistant] Right now, right now it's Tankhead, Roach, me, Rob Banks, and uh, Chris De Niro.


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[Assistant] That's kinda cap, I mean if he's, if it's 2019 and he's talking to you right now saying that there's no weed, I kinda feel like there's no weed.


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[Assistant] Uh, because of the simple fact that I'm at a point in my life where my sister is 13 years old, my little brother is 6 years old, and I got some other brothers and sisters that are around the same age and I'm an influence at the end of the day and I'm the first one out of my family to actually like, I wouldn't even say do something with my life, but to


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[Assistant] Bring my life at and to basically, I guess you could say live, live my dream. I'm the first person in my family to actually do that and to show that it's an actual possibility. You know what I mean? So I don't wanna.


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[Assistant] I don't want to like, you know, take advantage. Like I don't want to like turn the fruit like sour, you know what I mean? Like I don't want to just be like, oh, like take advantage of it and get fucked up and not remember any of it when I can like, you know, teach it to my little sister, my little brother and she could be spreading off for generations. And then if I ever have kids, like they can know the business.


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[Assistant] Because like all we knew were the streets, bruh, and to adjust from that to like having all these cameras and all this tension and then you're going on tours and this and that, bruh, it's fucking hard to adjust to. Like I just now got adjusted to alright, I have to act accordingly a certain way when I'm here or when I'm there or I can't always be like Zayf on the block, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I understand the world, feel how they feel, but like I'ma just announce this to the world, like you're gonna be fucked up if you think I'm finna sit here and remember like one of my best friends and like a horrible light.


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[Assistant] And you wanna just judge a person based off that. I'm not finna sit here and tag along with that. I'm finna remember him in a way that I wanna remember him. And from how I remember him is that he was a great person. And you got me fucked up if you think I'm finna look at him in another life, right? You feel me? Fuck that.


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[Assistant] Dog, people, so many people ask me about this shit, they're like, yo, did he really book you? I'm like, yea.


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[Assistant] I think the one that was the most embarrassing was his discussion of, of


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[Assistant] Pornography involving these women with large breasts and, and engaged in variety of sex with different people or animals.


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[Assistant] I hit Tank phone. Tank wasn't picking up. When he picked up, Tank was like, I heard bro, I'm on my way. I'm finna shut my shit off. He shut his shit off.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's good that I'm missing out on school work because my grades right now and my school work is not very well.


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[Assistant] And then I zone out and everything except what I'm staring at becomes blurry, like...


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[Assistant] In my opinion, my mom don't get paid as much as she should because my mom works hard and she...


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[Assistant] FoodPanger is like, uhm, what Miss Candy does, and she helps people that need help. She can give you food if you need it.


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[Assistant] And Miracle's very depressed about that. Cause now she probably won't have prom. That's my sister's prom dress.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the government shut down school for the rest of next month and we'll go back to school on May 1st. But we possibly may not even go back to school.


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[Assistant] We can't finish the rest of the year when we may get held back again. I was held back in kindergarten. I was held back because uhm, I was not smart.


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[Assistant] I'm reading it, I have to read it myself. Okay.


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[Assistant] Cuz Mark will just leave her and if my mom needs me, I'll be there. I'll be the good daughter.


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[Assistant] They pulled their starting pitcher eight and a third through 88 pitches. I don't understand the reason.


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[Assistant] Boone said he pulled him, I mean obviously he had no faith in Hermann, the Yankee starter at all, as soon as their first sign of trouble with one hit in the Yankee. He said he didn't like the matchup with Rosario and Hermann's giving up a lot of home runs. Well, Rosario's not exactly a powerhead or the Guardians don't hit home runs. No, I mean hey. I'll take it. Take it.


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[Assistant] I think it's a supply and demand issue, really, at the position, you know, we said yesterday, thought Jack Conklin was going to retire, and then they gave him an extension. It was like, what?


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[Assistant] So that's more worrisome than, than Wills. I think Wills, you know, we talked about yesterday, Wills' good plays are fine, his bad plays are awful.


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[Assistant] And his bad plays are the easy ones to pick out because he just stops. He just stops. And you can't have that, especially as a left tackle.


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[Assistant] So I, I don't think Jed Wills is going anywhere. I think he's going to be in Cleveland for a long time. And again, it's where are you going to find something better? And maybe Dewan Jones becomes something better, but I think that's the Jack Conklin replacement on the right side. I don't think that's for Jed on the left side.


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[Assistant] It is what it is. You've got him this year and next year. And really, I think beyond that, he's not elite by any means. Uh, he's certainly not hall of fame level, which is what you're used to with Joe Thomas. He's a step down from that.


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[Assistant] But there are worse out there than him and I think he is what he is. He's a average standard left tackle and you run the risk of not being able to replace that.


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[Assistant] We said yesterday the linebacker position has been devalued. Like I think that's pretty obvious.


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[Assistant] Yes, we said that. It's the running back of the offense. Has the role of the linebacker changed in the last four or five years or just the amount of them on the field? You know what I mean? To me there's a difference in how many you're playing and what you're asking them to do.


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[Assistant] Well, I think we have to start with the fact that we're starting the third round here. So this isn't a normal, you know, first round. These guys fell to where they fell for a reason. I think Tillman can make an immediate impact, but I kind of agree. I think Siaki Ika could be the long-term play in terms of this class.


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[Assistant] But Tailman fills a specific need early and the size, just the prototypical 6'3 size and the fact that, you know, we talked about a little bit yesterday, but when Deshaun


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[Assistant] Breaks the pocket when he's scrambling, when he's trying to freelance and make something happen, there's going to be times where you just need a jump ball. You need a guy who can go up and get the ball.


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[Assistant] And I think Tillman can fill that role. It could be hard for him to get on the field early in first and 10 situations, but I think red zone, he absolutely is a target. It's just a guy who can just go up and high point the ball. And what a luxury that is that they didn't really have last year. We talked about DPJ struggling with that at times last year.


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[Assistant] And to have a guy who, who's comfortable with that to, who has the size, who can just out jump guys in the back end. You now have two guys really, NaJoku and Tillman who should be able to out jump the coverage and go up and get the ball. So I do think Tillman could have a role in this.


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[Assistant] But I just wonder how much over the length of the 17 games, how expanded that role will be barring injuries where EECA, you know, we've talked about just being able to roll guys in. They haven't had that just the competition. They haven't had that the competition at defensive tackle, the competition at receiver going into camp this year. Uh, hopefully it's, you know, the best guys play.


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[Assistant] And, and Ika I think will have plenty of opportunities to get on the field and I can't remember the last time.


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[Assistant] So they have not had a good record on third round receivers, but hopefully, hopefully Tillman changes that. What do you got Mikey?


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[Assistant] Uh, because they have other guys that prove they can hold the role of punt returner and that was his biggest value.


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[Assistant] So, and they've got too many other guys that they have to keep. Who, who, who is that?


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[Assistant] That's not the guy I want to return to punts. They can't, they can't sacrifice a spot on Joaquin Grant right now just for punt returns. I'm telling you, he's not going to be on the spot. How much, how much money they give him?


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[Assistant] Of those, of those three, Felton is the most likely right now to be on the team, but you could see a situation where another guy, another team cuts a guy that they like better, that he could be a, he's on the roster after the cuts and then when someone else goes, they cut him and pick him up.


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[Assistant] I think it's either Forbes or Harris, frankly. I think one of them makes it. I'm not sure. I'm going to guess right now it's Harris and not Forbes, but that could, that could change. Brad, you say no.


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[Assistant] He a body here. I'm confusing myself.


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[Assistant] That's the only reason they did it. The parameters you said was week one, so I think Dobbs will be here week one.


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[Assistant] I, it's, that's really close. It's close as hell. If there's any sort of injury or something, this could easily change. But as of now, I say no.


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[Assistant] So how many are they going to keep? Three? Two? They're not going to go to three tight end sets anymore. I think he's gone. They're not?


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[Assistant] Time heals a lot of wounds, but not all the wounds, and I tend to agree with, with Garrett. I don't think this will be remembered fondly. I'm gonna go with an angry face.


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[Assistant] Really sort of vanished in the series. And really we have to let this play out and see what the next...


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[Assistant] If he does stay, I know we've spent a lot of time the last couple of days saying, I don't think, I think he's here one more year and they're going to have to trade him. Like that's just what I think the reality is. But if for some reason he does stay, we may look back on this a little bit differently. Uh, but you know,


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[Assistant] I don't think that's gonna be looked at. No one cares about 51 wins. Like, nobody cares about it.


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[Assistant] They can trot it out there all they want, but it's, it's not resonating with anybody. You won 44 last year. Last year really is I think the one where


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[Assistant] In a few years, you may have some sort of fondness toward it because that was the first sign of emerging of their back and they're ready to play. No, they didn't make the playoffs. They had a ton of injuries down the stretch. They lost the two playing games, but that was the first feel good moment of.


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[Assistant] Emerging from the darkness. So if anything, that last year will be the year that I think is looked on finally a few years from now, but I don't think it'll be this year.


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[Assistant] I mean, Evan regressed as a three point shooter this year and that's, that's really


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[Assistant] In one off season, I think eventually he can get there. I don't know. You can get there in one year and you certainly can't count on that. You can't go into next year saying, okay, well, he's going to shoot 32%. Well, we have no evidence of that whatsoever. I don't care how many shots he takes in the summertime. You hope.


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[Assistant] But I don't know, but if, but if he eventually gets to that, it unlocks a lot of things that they can do when your center can stretch the floor. We've seen it. We go watch Denver with Jokic and all the different things Jokic can do.


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[Assistant] If you can get those minutes with Evan at center when Jarrett's not on the floor, put four shooters around him, you can be lethal offensively. But this team, as presently constructed, is a long way from that.


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[Assistant] If Evan doesn't develop more range, they're going to have to make a decision between Jared and Evan because it's untenable.


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[Assistant] But you still have Darius and Evan under control for a really long time.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for one year. Yeah, it's probably better. What's the ceiling?


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[Assistant] It's so fragile. Every GM will tell you roster construction.


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[Assistant] It's so fragile and you think you've got it and then the next year it's gone. It's so...


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[Assistant] There's no, it's not fantasy basketball where we're gonna, that guy can shoot, let's put him in, but then it disrupts the locker room. It's just, it's not, it's so much more complicated than just


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I have no, Evan's gonna get to where Evan's gonna get. I, I still think he's number one on the championship team. It's hard for the point guard to be that guy. It's not impossible, but it's hard.


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[Assistant] Did you get any interest from the NFL after? I had a few.


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[Assistant] Between the USFL and the NFL. You've been in NFL camps. Is it the speed, the size, where's the biggest difference?


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[Assistant] What's Chubb? What did Chubb squad do we know?


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[Assistant] Oh, it was, it was, we got ours in Vegas. We weren't even married yet. My wife and I weren't even married yet. We were just dating and I was up like,


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[Assistant] All right, I don't have a final take. I got to tell you a funny story though about last night. I took the family to see air, had been wanting to see it. It was a rare night where we didn't have anything to do. So my 12 year old son, AJ took him, my wife and two of his friends to see it. And yesterday morning Earl had called me and said he was doing radio last night.


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[Assistant] Why does the radio stay? Oh no. So I missed the last 15 minutes to air last night.


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[Assistant] That day we're up in the 25th floor conference room and it's Friday afternoon about two o'clock.


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[Assistant] She's got this transcript, and she's like about to cry as she goes, oh this is terrible.


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[Assistant] Like, woah, boom, that thing hits. In video, it's pretty powerful, so everything shuts down.


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[Assistant] There was 90% chance we were gone the other way that day, from the night before, from the pressure that was on him and everything like that. And that's what a leader does.


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[Assistant] Donald Trump's President of the United States now comes the hour of action. There's been enough talk.


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[Assistant] Uh, busy, busy show. We're going to give our draft grades. Also, we have a draft expert coming on later. He's going to give his grade, not only the Browns, but the Bengals, the Ravens and the Steelers. How did our competition do? We're so focused on what the Browns are doing. Oftentimes it takes us a day or two to dig in what the other teams in the division were up to.


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[Assistant] Our expert is going to take us through and give us draft grades on all of the AFC North teams. Guardians in a tailspin. Don't look now. They've dropped six of the last seven series.


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[Assistant] And I know that it's May and you never push the panic button in May, but there are guys that are feeling around for where that button might be. Uh, the good news is that the division stinks again and they're only three and a half games out. So that's a week's worth of work if they can get it together. But right now,


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[Assistant] I might call Albert Bell. Just give him a look. Kick the tires. Can you still hit it 380 feet? Because we don't have anybody that can. So we'll talk about the Guardians. Uhm, we're also gonna talk. Kevin Love plays on. Kevin Love now.


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[Assistant] One off or not, we don't know. We don't know how much he can give the heat, but the heat go into Madison Square Garden and steal game one. Kevin Love gives the heat exactly what the Cavs needed.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but decided they no longer wanted. So, we'll talk a little bit about that. And uhm, we're gonna take internet comments. What you are saying about the NFL Draft. And I know some of you are already ordering your Super Bowl tickets. Pump the brakes. Pump the brakes. Every year after the draft.


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[Assistant] If they're a pass rusher or, you know, they don't show you the bad stuff, they show you the good stuff. He runs a four, six, forty, his vertical and everybody buys the hype.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you're filling a couple of spots. Do we have enough wide receivers yet?


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[Assistant] Yeah, we sort of touched on it, guys. Uhm, my, I'll start with my biggest takeaway and then I'll ask you guys. Uhm, I was shocked that not a linebacker was called.


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[Assistant] We don't have a receiver room, we have a receiver auditorium.


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[Assistant] You got Cooper is the one, DPJ maybe is the two, Elijah Moore. Those are your three starting receivers. Yes.


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[Assistant] Now, if Grant makes the team, you also brought in Marquise Goodwin, and you just drafted Tillman, and you've got Bell sitting there, and Schwartz, who wants to tell him?


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[Assistant] I mean I know Bell's just a year in and you really hate to give up on a guy a year in who's a third round pick.


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[Assistant] I don't, you almost have to start making decisions here. You're gonna have to let somebody go that you at one point really liked. And that's a good thing. That really is a good thing. It is a good thing. It's better than that.


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[Assistant] If Goodwin makes the team, he's a burner. I don't think Schwartz is going to make the team. Goodwin can stretch defenses. You just, you need, you need


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[Assistant] That run precise routes are going to be where they're supposed to be on timing routes. That's Cooper. You need a high point guy. That's probably, we hope, is going to be our new wide receiver. Speed guy can be good one. DPJ can do some things. So together, you've got a bunch of guys that can do a whole bunch of things. It makes the offense a lot more wide open.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're mostly situational guys. I was a little surprised, uhm, that we took a defensive tackle and a defensive end after all the free agent signings we made on the defensive front. I know you can never have enough guys, and I guess it's Philly. I don't know that they're... Is Philly at the front wave of that?


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[Assistant] I mean what they did last year and then what did they do in this draft? They went and made themselves even more dominant that position. Yes. GM's will often tell you


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[Assistant] To win in the NFL must have a quality quarterback. You must have quality guys that get after quarterbacks. Philadelphia really drove that home last year and it doesn't surprise me that the Browns are going that way because Jim Schwartz was in Philly when they were building that team this way. This is a strength in numbers group.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they'll be able to rotationally keep these guys fresh and Jason, that's, that's the new it thing in the NFL.


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[Assistant] And someone in the organization forgot that there's a position of linebacker.


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[Assistant] Like, it's really, they had five guys end the season last year on injured reserve. And when you look at the depth of the position right now, it looks like it did last year.


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[Assistant] Is that a product of the NFL going to the undersized linebacker? Like you don't see guys 245 anymore at that position. They tend to be around 230


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[Assistant] And I haven't followed it closely enough to know if this is, I don't think it's an epidemic across the league, but last year our linebacking corps was wiped out.


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[Assistant] So it's going to be really difficult for opposing teams to step back in the pocket and, and hope that you're going to get three and a half, four seconds to throw the football. It'll never happen with this team. They're going to be in your face from the time they get off the bus. This, this kid from Baylor.


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[Assistant] I only know of this kid what they said about him on draft day. He didn't, I don't even know that I watched Baylor play extensive games this year. He certainly wasn't a guy that stood out to me when I did watch him, if I even saw him.


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[Assistant] I would think he'd play a lot on first and second downs, run situations, and then in passing downs he'll probably be off the field.


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[Assistant] What was your biggest takeaway if you had to write a headline for this draft? What would the headline be for this draft?


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[Assistant] I don't know, I don't want to say they've abandoned their old analytics priorities, but to me it felt like


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[Assistant] I think the thing that I'm falling back on is maybe I'm trying to convince myself that things are going to be okay. But the one thing that I believe, uh, in is Jim Schwartz and his system.


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[Assistant] I give them credit for this. Sometimes GMs are so stubborn that they refuse to change what they're doing.


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[Assistant] I think the desperation that we're seeing here is that Andrew Barry said, okay, I had a book, I went by the book, and it didn't work.


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[Assistant] And so now we have to open ourselves up to the idea that we may have been wrong and that there may be a better way. And I think this is what we saw here. Now, if it doesn't work, it's going to look like they're grasping at straws and they're probably still all going to be done. But at least, you know,


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[Assistant] What did you guys make of that? I'd like, I'll be honest, never saw him play, didn't know, knew nothing about him at all. Uhm, I've read extensively about him since, I've heard all the comments that the guys made on the telecast. Uhm, this is your area of expertise, so I'll let you start.


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[Assistant] You know what I hope they do, Jason? Teams rarely do this, but here's what I hope they do. I hope they put these guys out on the field and forget about where they drafted them. Just take the guys that can ball.


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[Assistant] I also think that Schwartz is the right guy to judge this talent. He's not coming in with any baggage and preconceived ideas. They're all new to him.


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[Assistant] Build your statue, and the clay you don't use, we're getting rid of.


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[Assistant] And the other thing too is, and we saw this with Philly, like.


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[Assistant] Because they go so hard. 100% max effort.


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[Assistant] I remember when I was young and I first started playing hockey, I hated the fact that I ever had to leave the ice. I don't want to come off the ice.


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[Assistant] Because yes, there is, in hockey, there's no time between plays. You're constantly moving. But in football, because that is such a max


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[Assistant] effort position on every single play. You wear out and the fact that now they're going to have a one and a 1A unit and they're going to mix and match. You're going to see kind of like in the NBA playoffs where they talk about combinations.


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[Assistant] It sounds great, but you know what? Instead of getting four guys at maybe 65% in the fourth quarter, they're going to have eight guys that are at 80% and you can fill and mix and match with combinations and I think it's brilliant and I think it's going to work.


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[Assistant] The head scratcher for me, guys, was...


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[Assistant] Now, as a player, I did see him a lot this year, and I loved him. I absolutely love his grit, his, he's got that, he's not gonna lose. He's gonna do whatever it takes to win. Uhm, but I was, I was shocked that they drafted a quarterback. Was Dobbs just a one year signing? They usually, I'm not at all surprised.


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[Assistant] I just remember thinking at the time, whoever gets this kid's gonna get a good quarterback. I never in a million years thought it would be us, so I'm glad it is. Uh, the last two picks, Cameron Mitchell is interesting. He's a corner from northwestern.


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[Assistant] Played with Newsom at Northwestern, and because Newsom was a home run, yeaah, I still think Newsom was one of the better draft picks of this regime. And Emerson as well, so I'm not even going to question this pick. Uhm, I think they've proven that they can draft defensive backs at a high percent.


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[Assistant] So I think they got, I think they got them another one here. And then lastly, uhm, they got the big offensive lineman from Ohio State.


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[Assistant] And what's funny is that Pittsburgh has made a history of drafting Buckeyes.


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[Assistant] And they've almost all been home run hit picks.


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[Assistant] Guys that have helped them win Super Bowls, while we have notoriously stayed away from Buckeyes.


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[Assistant] They don't know, but they don't take it. Pittsburgh, uh, Pittsburgh loves Big Ten guys.


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[Assistant] I love Porter at Penn State. I was stunned when I heard that he had just one interception.


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[Assistant] During his career there. He plays with a chip. Yeah. Plays a lot like his dad did. Yeah. He's all over the field. I think it's, I think it's a value pick for them. His dad was a beast.


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[Assistant] Dad was, I hate it. Whenever the Browns had to go against the Steelers, you knew you had to find was 55. You knew you had to find him because he was going to be around the ball every time. Okay. We're going to circle back to Dewan Jones in a second, but you want to. Yes, I got a.


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[Assistant] Like he's got the guru, he's got the best ever to do it, and he makes Orlando Pace look small.


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[Assistant] It's interesting because the Browns had to make a decision by today and they've made the decision. They're going to pick up the option on Jed Wills. So he's going to be here making $14 million this year and next year.


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[Assistant] But because you have versatility with Jones, you could put him at right tackle for a couple of years. And if Jills, if Jills, if Jed Wills,


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[Assistant] It was a savvy move though because one of the things that we had to keep in mind is that if he did get to a year, if the Browns hadn't picked it up, and let's say he takes that leap that they're waiting for him to take.


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[Assistant] 23 million. So you say, you know, you're betting that he's going to continue to develop and why not with your offensive line coach, Bill Callahan. So if he continues to develop, maybe he is here.


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[Assistant] So I'm looking at the list of linebackers that the Browns have coming back next year. And it's thin guys. They need one more.


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[Assistant] He just stands around and I think Joe said, just go hit somebody. Don't ever be caught on film going like this.


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[Assistant] And you have got to make sure that you're not letting guys get free releases on you. And it happened too many times against- with- with Jed.


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[Assistant] I, I do think that I always go back to Callahan. I just think that the talent is there. He relied on that pure size.


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[Assistant] And knowing that 8 out of every 10 plays that he played at Alabama, he was going to win based on that. This isn't Alabama anymore. If it is, you're playing Georgia every week.


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[Assistant] So I think that if Callahan can light a fire under him and get him going...


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[Assistant] Maybe he can live up to that number 10 overall pick, but right now, long term, like when you think past two years, if he continues to look just like he has his previous three,


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't think he's the long term answer, but again, who is?


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[Assistant] And maybe, maybe you'll know that you've got two years now to reevaluate him. You've evaluated him based on three and you've decided he's earned two more. These next two are proven years because if he doesn't show improvement and he just continues to be a guy there,


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[Assistant] I don't know that the Browns are comfortable saying we're okay with him being our third most important player in our franchise. I don't know that they're okay with that.


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[Assistant] Because where he was drafted in the 10th slot, we have certain expectations, but maybe we have to come to the realization that he's not that guy. He's never going to be that guy. And if he's not, maybe you move him to right tackle. And you know, if, if the wand develops.


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[Assistant] Kyle, how deep did you go on any of your mocks?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know how to, I think it's an exercise in insanity. I really do.


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[Assistant] Uhm, based on the three rounds that you went, uhm,


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[Assistant] How do you feel things played out in reality versus how you predicted they would play out?


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[Assistant] Alright, let's do grades, uhm, and we'll start with the Browns and then we'll go through the other AFC North Deans. Uh, what do you give the Browns, Kyle, considering that they didn't, you know, they didn't have a lot of draft capital up, up top and, uh, they traded away that last pick, their seventh round pick.


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[Assistant] Did he explain why he was passive and why he pulled out of some of those events that typically guys have to go through?


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[Assistant] Alright, well we'll take that as a nice value pick there. Hopefully he doesn't...


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[Assistant] Turn into a personality, you know, difficult personality to coach.


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[Assistant] That presented issues. I hadn't heard that Kyle, but that makes perfect sense now as to why he slipped as far as he did.


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[Assistant] So what are your grades? Let's start with the Ravens, then we'll go Steelers and Bengals to finish it up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know you say it's eye rolling, but trust me, uh, being in Cleveland, it's a thing. Uh, and you know, you want your team to have a point on the horizon. Like, who are you? What are you about?


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[Assistant] And while we've been asking that question relentlessly over the last 30 years with what this organization is and where they're going, other than a million different directions, with the Steelers, and I'm glad you brought that up, they know who they want, they, they always want and they always get,


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[Assistant] Dogs. They get guys that want to rip your head off.


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[Assistant] And one of the things that we talked about last year was this Browns team had no dogs. They had no fight in them at all. And then you play a Steelers team that you think you have more talent than and you lose to them because they have more want to.


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[Assistant] Let's wrap it up with the Bengals grade. They're the team that everybody in this division is chasing. Did the gap between the Bengals and everybody else widen or did the other teams sort of play a little catch up here?


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[Assistant] Very good. So overall, the division did very well.


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[Assistant] You'd say the Steelers of the four won the draft. The Browns probably came in second.


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[Assistant] Last thing before we let you go, uh, who won the draft? Which team in your mind had the best draft and proved their team the most?


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[Assistant] With all of the talent being in the AFC.


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[Assistant] In the NFC right now, it feels like Philly and everybody else. Detroit might be a team that makes a deep playoff run. They, you know, they seem to be pointing in the right direction. I think they got the coach right and everything seems to be falling into place. Kyle, excellent stuff. Really, really good stuff. Thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Kyle Krabs.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Very, very good. Uh, deep knowledge.


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[Assistant] I have one question for Jason to start off with. Have you received any pushback from the Cavs or from Donovan Mitchell on your statement?


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[Assistant] Somebody would have reached out to you and said, Jay, you're on the wrong path. I like you. I respect you. That's, that's not correct.


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[Assistant] Were you surprised by the reaction from the basketball world? Cause I, you know, on the surface,


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[Assistant] And, and they're still playing and they're, they're never good with not getting up. They thought they were getting LeBron when he went to Miami. And then as soon as it doesn't work out, screw that player, man. We don't want that dude anyhow, but they want Donovan Mitchell. You would think. Why wouldn't they?


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[Assistant] And you add Donovan Mitchell to that, now you talk about not just a team that can make it to the Eastern Conference Semifinals, and who knows how that series is going to work out, it hasn't started off well for them, but he might be


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[Assistant] If you're the Cavs, aren't you immediately talking to his agent about a long-term extension? Sure, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Something going on on the calf's bench during one of the timeouts.


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[Assistant] But man at his news conference, he said all the right things. He sold it like this was his end all be all destination.


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[Assistant] And it's not the most glowing opinion of that player. We're not saying that because we want that to be true or we want to make you upset. We're saying that because that's what we think.


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[Assistant] Now, in the case of Jason and his reporting, there's no opinion in what he reported. What Jason reported was what he is hearing. That's what reporters do.


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[Assistant] It's not like you heard it from one person and went with it. You're seasoned. You know, I need, I need multiple sourcing on this. I need, uh, different organizations, different voices.


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[Assistant] When you start getting to a threshold where it's no longer a whisper, it's not necessarily a shout but they're talking in front of everybody.


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[Assistant] That's when Jason feels comfortable enough to report it. The anger at Jason for what he said is so misplaced.


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[Assistant] He doesn't want this to happen. He doesn't necessarily have a dog in the fight. It's his job to write about what he's hearing and to talk about what he's hearing.


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[Assistant] And we're sorry if Brown's fans don't like it. There's no agenda. I'll guarantee you before the show starts, Jason doesn't sit down and say, how can I rile up the Cleveland fan base today?


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[Assistant] Oh no. What do we have now? Oh, in those, in those draft capital? No. So what has to happen is you got to get all the major players in a room and you have to talk this out and you have to do it sooner than later. You have to ask Mitchell, not his agent. I want to talk to Donovan Mitchell. Donovan, we're trying to do the responsible thing for the organization. I know you're worried about you. Is there a scenario where you opt into that third year


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[Assistant] And what are the, where are we on negotiating or talking about an extension? And if you're hitting a brick wall on those talks, you have to do what's responsible.


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[Assistant] And sadly, that would be moving him after one more season because you cannot have this move


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[Assistant] Bouncing the Knicks and the Knicks end up being who we thought they were. It's even worse for Cleveland because you lost to a team that you should have beat and you lost to them and here come the Miami Heat who I think have finally figured out


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[Assistant] This is one of the more stark examples of a team coasting in the regular season. Hell, they almost didn't get in.


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[Assistant] And they push it, and all forces are activated, and now it looks like they're on their way. I know it's early in that series, but winning game one at Madison Square Garden, uh, you win a second one there, and you're winning the series.


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[Assistant] Is exactly what the Cavs needed and didn't get in the Knicks series.


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[Assistant] He came off the bench. He only played like 15 or 16 minutes. He scored nine points. He hit a couple of threes. He had, there's a funny tweet out that said with the first pick in the 2024 NFL draft, the Miami Dolphins take quarterback Kevin Love because we saw him do it here for years.


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[Assistant] And we had s- we talked at the onset of the season after the Mitchell trade.


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[Assistant] And I was greedy. I said, I want a trip to the Eastern Conference Finals. That's what it's going to take for me. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Because when you're telling me that we've got these four superstars now, what other team has four superstars?


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[Assistant] So for me, I said, and there were a lot of people who said, oh, I don't know, that's a big lofty goal, you know, let's, maybe if they make it past the first round. Well, the last year we underachieved in that we didn't get a playoff series. This year we underachieved in that we got one playoff win and got knocked out in five games by a lower seed.


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[Assistant] That's a disappointment. And that's a clear-cut disappointment. And I'm not gonna give them a consolation prize for 50 wins in the regular season. It's a milestone. It's nice. But I don't care.


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[Assistant] I don't care, I- this league, every league, is about what you do


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[Assistant] Once the regular season is over, half the damn league makes the playoffs. I'm not going to wave a banner because I'm in the top half of the league. And so next year,


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[Assistant] If you don't win two playoff series and you don't make it to the Eastern Conference Finals, to me, it's a third straight collapse.


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[Assistant] I would have been salivating. I would have said, oh, we've got a pretty clear path. We have to beat two teams that


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[Assistant] We're seated below us to get to the Eastern Conference Finals. Now you'll either have to see one of either Boston or Philly.


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[Assistant] And so now that doesn't seem like such a Herculean task, but you couldn't even get out of the gate with step one. And Milwaukee season was a far bigger bust than the Cav, but for me, this Cav season was a bust. We got 15 minutes.


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[Assistant] Tito had Naylor hitting, uh, in a game late last week against lefties, one run game late.


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[Assistant] And I'm scratching my head. When he didn't call for a pinch hitter, I go, well here comes a strikeout.


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[Assistant] Every win is going to be gold in this division.


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[Assistant] To that point, they've lost four straight series, they've lost six of their last seven series, and they're at Yankee Stadium beginning tonight.


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[Assistant] So it could easily be five straight series losses, seven of eight series losses. They're currently 13 and 15. They're only three and a half behind the twins because the twins aren't, you know, a juggernaut. They're not running away with anything yet, but it gets late pretty early and you can't let that grow to seven or eight games in May.


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[Assistant] I'm certainly discouraged with what I've seen, but it's only two games under 500. And I think it was you that asked me, okay, let's split the season into thirds. What do you expect when they're a third of the way through, which would roughly be about 50 games. I said, I expect them to be around 500 because they're doing all this without their number two arm.


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[Assistant] Once they get Mackenzie back, and by the way, do you have anything on that when he's expected back?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. We're gonna find out more about him tonight, but I'm not panicking, but here is the red flag that definitely has me concerned.


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[Assistant] That, that, that is not going to do it. That, that's not even going to come close. There are guys that have as many home runs in one day as the Guardians leading home run hitter has all season. It's, it is a code red. All sirens are blaring and I don't know where it's going to come from. I mean, Jose is going to get hot, you would think, but three home runs in the first month of the season. That ain't it. Are you worried about him? No.


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[Assistant] I'm not worried that Jose's gonna put together a good year. I don't think he's gonna duplicate. He's not gonna be an MVP candidate. I mean, I don't know how he can be when you have a month of April as slow as his has been. And I don't know what the answer to it is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I wish they would have done more. Uhm, and I don't know what the answer is. Uhm, we talked at length, will these guys come back and have the same success in year two that they have in year one? Quan hasn't been the same guy. Oscar Gonzalez hasn't been the same guy. We're seeing the dreaded sophomore slump that we talked about and that I was very worried about all along.


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[Assistant] Will Brennan's a guy that I really like. I mean, Brennan has played well. You know, you still gotta, you gotta get what you expect out of these other guys. And so far it just hasn't been, I waited out.


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[Assistant] You don't know, and you know what? The one thing I can say about the NFL draft with certainty after watching it as a fan and covering it in the media for years now, uhm,


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[Assistant] For every first rounder that flains out, there's an undrafted free agent that makes the team.


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[Assistant] It's not a science. We try to make it a science. We measure, we poke, we prod, we ask. We try to do all of the due diligence in the world and sometimes


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[Assistant] You just Johnny Manzell it. You just, you just miss. And other times you put your foot in it and you get lucky. I have decided that


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[Assistant] All of everything I saw over the weekend means nothing to me. The only thing that matters is what they do from here on out. That's it. And once you kinda come to that realization


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[Assistant] The draft just becomes noise. It just becomes a thing.


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[Assistant] That is a necessary evil that we have to go through, but we're not gonna know. And we may not know for three years. We still don't know about guys that Brahms drafted three years ago, but we're still saying I don't know.


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[Assistant] Uh, because I, I feel like she, she's heartbroken. You can kind of see it. And I hope that they're obviously, obviously going to be cordial about it, which it looks like it because they have, they have a daughter, so.


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[Assistant] It's almost like Mike was a big brother type to you. Is that true? No, Mike Dawes, listen, you gotta understand, you can't wait to see these stories. Mike went through points in his life, right? He had stages. The first stage, first stage, he was a terror. This dude would not leave nobody alone.


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[Assistant] Don't quit, bro. I'm like, we just chilling right now, Mike. We just posting. You're like, nah, I gotta be into it. Then he went through it. Then he went through a little era where, you know what I'm saying, he was playing three sports and then was like, man, back where we come from, you couldn't play. He was playing varsity when he was like a, like a freshman or something.


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[Assistant] Did you see, uh, KD, them dudes out there moving around. Steph Curry, as long as, as long as, as long as Steph Curry's alive, Trey Young is right up underneath him. Like, he's, he's, he's the assistant pimp. He is not the dude. But it is impressive that Atlanta's made it 16.


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[Assistant] That's the, that's the difference between- Don't piss off LeBron. Hey, that's the difference between metaphors and real rap. You can't look. Man, he told him, I'm gonna come out here and get 20.


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[Assistant] I'ma get 20 and 20. Y'all about to lose. We are 7 seed. You are 2 seed and Dillon Brooks, man. He up for a contract. What he did. He has just based it. I'ma come out here. I'ma make myself be somebody. I'ma be somebody in this world and then it didn't work out that same way, bro. And they're going home tonight. You should have picked


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[Assistant] Uhm, before we, we did the series. And most everybody had, uh, between the two teams in Knicks and the Cavs, Daris Garland.