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[Assistant] Expectations killed his career. Killed his career. He even said later, I got sick and tired of being compared to Peyton Manning. I'm being compared to one of the greatest of all times.


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[Assistant] Michael Jordan, or excuse me, LeBron James, did not co-


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[Assistant] At 16 years old, put that person on the cover of the Holy Grail magazine of the sport at the time and said, the chosen one.


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[Assistant] Luel Cinder, though, who became Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, had a lot of expectations.


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[Assistant] But nobody, Earl, was like this. That's my point. My point is, to your original point, this guy had unmanageable expectations. You know the one person in the world I don't want to be right now? One of the bronze kids. Charlie Woods.


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[Assistant] Cause in today's society, when those people already have millions of followers that LeBron didn't have to deal with.


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[Assistant] You're gonna hear it every time you fail. I think Tiger made a mistake with Charlie when he allowed him to enter.


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[Assistant] A qualifier so he could play in a PGA event. He's like 15 or 16 years old. He finished like 132nd out of 135.


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[Assistant] LeBron had detractors, he just didn't hear from them on social media. Like they do today. LeBron James, I think you're right. To me, I've done making the argument. He is to me the greatest of all time and you'll never change my mind. It doesn't mean I'm right, but I'm right because it's my decision.


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[Assistant] I think it was, was it who, was it Garnett? Someone came out over the weekend and said, yeah, he's on that juice. Specifically.


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[Assistant] He's on that juice. Said that about LeBron? Said that about LeBron. Blasphemous. And now there has been whispers about that for a long time, but he's always come out clear in all the investigations. Hey, real quick. But somebody that's in the know...


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[Assistant] For the record, these are not going in the official true or false scores, so Tyvis, don't worry if you lose, which you will.


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[Assistant] Jason and Tyvis are tied with three. Bull, you have two. I've said Judy to every question so far.


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[Assistant] You know what, that's funny that you say that because as I go back to 2016, I was there for four days and after day one, I was tired.


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[Assistant] The things I remember about the Cowboys, I remember getting there day one.


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[Assistant] Obviously the DBs go last. So I remember getting there day one and I'm checking in and...


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[Assistant] I'm starting to see some of my teammates and stuff and I'm just like, oh, you know, they telling me about the stories, but I'm constantly checking my phone cause I got guys that's going like running. I want to see what times they run and stuff like that. And I just remember that first night.


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[Assistant] Just being bombarded with just coaches and scouts and all of these people like pulling you every direction like, hey come talk to my guy, come talk to my guy, come talk to us.


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[Assistant] That, yes, but you have, uh, official interviews. There's teams that like on,


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[Assistant] It's where they just pull you each way, like come here, come talk to my guy, come right down, tell me about yourself. And it's just like, you literally talk to like 32 teams and then you go to sleep. I think it's a time, it's a cutoff time where like after this time you can't talk to nobody. It's like 11 or 12 o'clock at night. So I get done with that and I go to my room.


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[Assistant] And then by the way, you got a drug test at 4 p.m. I mean 4 a.m. So it's like 4 a.m. And they like, listen, make sure you get there early because if you don't, everybody's coming down here. So you want to get there first, set an alarm for like 3.30, get down there early so you can get out the way, you can go back to sleep.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the point. Yeah, that's the point. You really don't, you really don't get a lot of sleep at the combine. It's, it's really terrible. It's terrible. You just like, let me get to day four, let me get this over with. You hope that day three, you know, you try to go off and try to get some sleep, but you're not gonna get a lot of sleep.


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[Assistant] The only thing that can happen for him is that he loses something by performing. That's literally what happens. I mean think about it, a guy like CJ Stroud last year, he was perfect, wonderful. He got knocked because of a dang test that he did.


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[Assistant] Nothing really good comes out of performing at the gym. The combine, I will say it again, the combine is for those people that they're on the fence about. If you go to like Toledo or Akron like that and they don't know your competition, alright, let me see you run a good 40 time. Let me see you jump out the gym. Alright, that makes me go back and look at your tape again.


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[Assistant] But if you somebody that's solidified, first round pick, balled out like Marvin Harrison, like, why would Kayla Williams need to throw? What do you need to do at the combine that's going to make him, make you think, oh yeaah, this is really the guy.


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[Assistant] You, you got my tape. This game is not played with me just in a tank top and some compression shorts. You literally can turn my tape on and see everything you need.


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[Assistant] It does seem silly that- To me it seems like every time that happens, they end up making the wrong choice.


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[Assistant] It was something he didn't do at the combine. It was like two drills. I think he didn't do the L drill and the 20 yard shuttle, I think.


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[Assistant] And I remember Sean Payton text him and said, I really want you to do these drills so I can see your time. And, cause he was like, I'm not about to do them, like there's no point in me doing them.


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[Assistant] But he says since he reached out and asked him to do it, he did the thing at the pro day and they ended up drafting him. So like in that situation, I understand that, but for a lot of times I don't understand what difference it make. Like I said, if you're


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[Assistant] I was a guy that was on the fence with a lot of things. My combat numbers is as good as anybody's. Nah, I ain't jump out the gym or nothing like that. My 40 time was really good. One of the fastest safeties there.


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[Assistant] Uh, bench press 15 as a safety, that's like pretty average. Jumping is pretty average, but for some odd reason I slid, so it's like it don't make it, you know, it, it makes sense. It's a crapshoot what you're saying, it's a crapshoot.


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[Assistant] Now that's, oh no, we joke around on the pre-gay. I call him, that's my godfather right there. It's nice to see that he's cancer free. You know, Jimmy, Jimmy is a fighter. That's the one thing I respect about him and everybody loves him.


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[Assistant] I don't know, the games sound better and the Browns just perform better when he's in that pool. I'm glad that he was able to overcome this because that right there is tougher than any challenge that you'll ever face on the football field to be looking deft in the face and not blink one time. I got a lot of respect and a lot of love for Jim Donovan.


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[Assistant] Andre Drummond looked unbelievable, and I was just so shocked. I mean like, don't get me wrong, the excuses there, you know, they just came off of uh, they're playing back to back games.


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[Assistant] The excuse is there. They're playing back-to-back games. They used a lot of energy to win that game. And I understand all of that.


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[Assistant] But the thing that got me the most, it was the rebounding thing. Like that really bothered me because Chicago did, like their coach was smart. The last time we played them,


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[Assistant] We, I think we really did well on the boards. And he countered that by starting Andre Drummond and Vukovic. And that was something, that was a wrinkle that I wasn't expecting. I thought, why would they do that? But this man, Andre Drummond,


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[Assistant] Oh my goodness, he just completely owned the paint, like he was getting rebounds, he was getting points, and for Jared Allen to only have


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[Assistant] What, five rebounds, four rebounds in the game? That was ridiculous. I did think that Darius would step up. I sat here yesterday and I told, when Earl was going off, I said, he's going to probably play well tonight. And he did. You know, he took the night off last, or two nights ago, so I was like, he's going to make up for it this night. But,


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[Assistant] At the end of the day, that paint thing, like you can't, y'all been doing so well, I thought the narrative had changed, where...


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[Assistant] You don't get punked in the paint no more. Y'all, y'all literally stand up. You think about last year in the Knicks series, it was Mitchell and Randall dominating the paint. It was the same, same fashion right here when I watched this game. But like I said, you can say that they was gassed, but at some point you got to stand up and make some stops. And then as far as the closing of the game, I can't believe they went in the double.


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[Assistant] I literally, listen, the last thing I seen before I turned it back on was, it was like 15 seconds left, Mitchell had just got fired. I said, oh that's good, you know, Mitchell gonna hit these free throws, I cut it off, walked upstairs, sitting up there talking to the lieutenant.


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[Assistant] I'm thinking they gonna go up five, that's the end of it. No, you tell me that Jared Allen, of all people, files Demarda Rosen, which, why would you file a three point shooter anyway?


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[Assistant] It's like, why would you do that? Like, it's just, the fatigue came in and you get lazy and you start doing things that you normally don't do when you tire. So, I would just chalk it up and say that y'all was gassed, but that was a win that y'all should have had. Y'all had so many chances to win that game and it's like y'all just could not close the game. And y'all let them stick around and boom, they end up winning.


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[Assistant] I personally would have gave it. When, when Donovan drove at the end and tried to kick, I don't know who you were trying to kick.


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[Assistant] I don't know. It's the regular season. I guess you're still trying to figure things out. You want that to jail. You want to see, maybe you want to see if they are physical. If they can go up against two guys. But when Butchevich filed out,


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[Assistant] I said, I really said it was over. I saw, man, this is...


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[Assistant] And that's the thing, for some odd reason, it always comes back to JB late.


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[Assistant] Try it. Like this is, this would be the time to try it. Like to see if I go up against the Knicks again in the series again. How, what am I going to do differently this time than I did last time?


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[Assistant] Let me go out there and try to maybe see if I can get some shooters out there to get them to force them to come out of this. I mean, it's the perfect thing. They got the Chicago's big man have the same mentality as the Knicks big man.


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[Assistant] Like, be physical in the paint, we're tougher than them, let's get the boards and all those things. Bully ball, yeah. So this was a perfect test to show that you've learned from your mistakes. And I don't know, I guess he just kinda...


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[Assistant] Maybe he don't trust his self yet, or he don't trust his line up that he, I don't know. He gotta figure that out.


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[Assistant] Is he a defensive liability? He's not a great defender.


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[Assistant] He paid Duncan Robinson and they sat him on the bench for half a season because he couldn't play defense. But he also wasn't making shots.


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[Assistant] How many games he got left in this suspension, you know? It's a couple more.


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[Assistant] Well, we gon' know something mid-March. We gon' know something. I mean, I tell you what, that Knicks gang gon' be...


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[Assistant] Really must see TV now because they probably saw that game and was like, ha! They still the same old calves.


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[Assistant] What's our record, like 6 and 5 nationally you talking about? 6 and 6?


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[Assistant] It's definitely right to me. I mean, they play some good basketball, don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day, I just can't.


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[Assistant] They haven't had no post-season success and it's so hard to put them in any category above hopefuls right now because of the fact that we haven't seen them have post-season success when all those other teams, those other teams have


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[Assistant] Either won it, been in the championship or been close to winning the championship. So they're in the right spot. Okay, okay, she should be higher. I don't care what Jason says. They should.


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[Assistant] They would see it. Dame and his playoff success ain't gonna let, uh. Dame ain't never had a talent like, he's never played with the best player to ever play the game, so.


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[Assistant] They can't figure it out. They played a good game last night, but I just, I don't know, I just, they just fall apart to me all the time.


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[Assistant] Nah, coming out of the West make it a little bit easier maybe than the East? The West is pretty good.


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[Assistant] Because after Whatchamacallit had did what he did. They picked him, right? Or was he already on staff? He was an assistant.


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[Assistant] He ain't done nothing outside of that. No, I'm not that high on Nick Nurse. I'm not that high on Nick Nurse.


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[Assistant] To be able to make that assessment fairly. I think Jayce is 100% right. When it comes to the Cavs playoff success, it's all about the seeding this year. Whoever they draw in the playoffs, that's, if they go up against Philadelphia 76ers and Joel Embiid is back.


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[Assistant] I'm praying that this is, he just, this is trial and error right now.


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[Assistant] Who was he, he was under, who, with the grizzlies? Is there any assistant here? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Category, right track. I mean, if they would have won a playoff game, maybe you could put them in the teeter and cat contenders.


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[Assistant] It's a complete deconstruction. That's cause I don't know, I don't know what it is going to look like. Right. Well that's why it's a reconstruction. Yeaah, yeaah. Like I, cause you, coming into the season last year, you was like, at worst we could still run the ball. But Nick Chubb is, we don't know what we're going to get from Nick Chubb and you got all these offensive linemen that you gotta, it's, it's,


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[Assistant] How can you say such a thing and they can't, the Bengals can't beat the Browns?


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, just the receiver. I am too. Yeah. In close of minutes, who was open and they couldn't get the ball to them? Number eight. Number eight.


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[Assistant] Let's see, San Francisco game, they tried to get into them. Oh, who's the quarterback in that San Francisco game?


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[Assistant] The Brown should be looking to go get a number two. That could potentially become a number one. Yes. And Elijah Moore will be.


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[Assistant] He didn't have a better year than Rashid Rice. Plus he's a third year dude, you're comparing him against rookies. Marvin Nims.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess they, maybe they could have kept that second round pick and got somebody else.


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[Assistant] I think the problem becomes, like when you're doing this scouting.


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[Assistant] I think the problem that they look at is, you gotta look at your wire receiver room and you'll say, what don't we have as a wire receiver? Like what is the piece that we're missing?


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[Assistant] Stuff like that. Let's go get a blazer. Do we need a big body guy? Yea, we ain't got one of those. I think that's kind of why they drafted Secretary Tillman because they knew they were moving on from DPJ. So it was like, let's just get his replacement with the third round pick. He's not that slow. He ran a 4-5, so it's like, and he had big playmaking ability. So I think when you go into this year's draft,


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[Assistant] What's the mindset? Like what type of receiver are we looking for? Are we looking for another blazer again or are we looking for a guy that runs really good routes? Like there's so many different type of wire receivers that I think that they're gonna


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[Assistant] Essentially you want to take the best available and just use him that way, but I think right now the wire receiver room dictates the type of receiver that they want to get, if that makes sense.


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[Assistant] But Jason is right, you know, you talking about picking out of the third round. At that point...


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[Assistant] It was only like one Difference Maker, two Difference Makers at that point, and that was Puka was still there, and uh, uh, Monro St. Brown. Monro St. Brown, yeaah.


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[Assistant] So it's, second round you should, 54th pick, there's somebody still there.


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[Assistant] Tyvis, you won a parlay last night. Tell us about it. I did. So last night after my cast parlay just completely.


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[Assistant] Went to heck because of Jared Allen not getting eight boards. Ridiculous. Right when I was going to sleep, I said, you know what? FanDuel was offering the 50% profit boost for live, in live same game parlay.


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[Assistant] I did Anthony Davis, 20 points Kawhi Leonard, 20 points LeBron, 20 points James Harden, two made threes. Norman Powell, my cousin, two made threes. He's not really my cousin.


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[Assistant] Because when I was there, obviously I came there after Seattle, and I remember they don't even got a full hundred yards indoor. It's like 80 or 70 or something like that. And the weight room is really right outside the, you walk out the glass door.


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[Assistant] But they, but since I've been there, so I was there in 2017, I walked through the facility last year, you know, during OTA's I was walking through the building, and they've changed it.


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[Assistant] But I agree with you. It's just too small. Like it's not a lot of room in there. It's not a place that I feel like you can hang out. I feel like the locker room was kind of...


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[Assistant] But I'm always a guy that I gotta see it for myself. Like when I would, if I was, say I was, let's say that I was really good and I was a big time free agent and I was going to visit these places.


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[Assistant] You know, how you treat my family, that matters. That's something that's very important to me. And I think that was on the report card. That was on, yes. Which they scored not good. I think it was like a D minus. The Browns got a D minus on that. Which is crazy because Shelby Harris said that one of the reasons he decided to come here is because they treated his wife with so much respect and so much class, so he respected that.


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[Assistant] Oh, that's horrible. That's bad. That's horrible.


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[Assistant] Cause like, cause I was, so when I played in Seattle, the practice facility and stadium was two different places, but if I played in San Francisco, they're all together. It's all together. Your locker room, your game day locker room is your practice locker room. So if they're moving to that, okay, then you have to build a new weight room and all of that.


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[Assistant] I mean the practice facility is literally fire.


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[Assistant] He answered the question though. You said what was the two questions that they asked?


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[Assistant] And the time, the time thing is crazy. Cause it's, it's literally, they literally be by, like it's, we got, you only got, we got this much practices from this to this. And that's it. Cause the NFLP ain't gonna come out there and it's like, well, you better be getting off the field.


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[Assistant] Cuz I've been there. And I, heck, to be honest with you when I do the radio, I still eat there sometimes too. Now I will say the cafeteria's not big. It's not a big cafeteria. But that food...


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[Assistant] That food is good. I don't know who the dude on the grill, I remember as a player, I would come in, whoever they had on the grill back in 2017 was a magician. The dude made some phenomenal food.


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[Assistant] What I liked about Cleveland is, is that I was only here for OTAs. Hold on a minute.


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[Assistant] I like to, I like to, I like to be real with the audience. I was there for OTAs. That's it, okay? Uhm, and that time, I was leaving Seattle, but I loved the food at the Cleveland Browns more than I liked Seattle's food. Wow. Like I thought that...


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[Assistant] Except the tuna mill, cuz they didn't make tuna mills at the Browns. But the Browns, the dude on the grill, like he made some really good, like it was,


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[Assistant] But the Browns made chicken and waffles. Like obviously I wanted the chicken and waffles.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying, like I like the options that they have better. So it was a good cafeteria. Yeah, the cafeteria was good.


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[Assistant] But it's only, it's 12 slides, 12 people. What are you talking about? In the NBA.


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[Assistant] The Browns had, they gotta cut, they cut budgets at certain places. They, you know, they can't afford it.


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[Assistant] Think about this, at Free A, Cleveland, like you said, Cleveland isn't a place that people are like, oh, let's go to Cleveland. People get so mad when I say that. Well, it's because Joe Kim Noah said it and it was a...


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[Assistant] It's not. It's not. But what people find out is when you come to Cleveland, you actually have a good time. But as far as the facilities go, the way you can help


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[Assistant] A free agent come is, you spend the majority of your time here anyways. So at least make it a place that got lots of stuff that you could do. Like make the place big. Make it the locker room bigger. Cause that's where people wanna hang out with. That's where you hear all the stories at in the locker room.


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[Assistant] Get some more games in there. Ping pong tables all these days. Make sure the weight facility, the weight room is good. Make sure the practice facility is good. Like I don't, I don't see why you wouldn't. You, you, you, you're, you're literally


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[Assistant] Behind on these things. Because like I said, if this was LA, you wouldn't have to do all those things. But in the city of Cleveland, you'd have to do those things because it's not an attractive.


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[Assistant] To be honest with you, the Woody needs to just, they need to redo the whole Woody to be honest.


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[Assistant] When I went to the building, they was renovating something. Guardians of Browns. The Browns. This was like two years ago, maybe three years ago.


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[Assistant] Why did they get rid of the hill outside? I don't know.


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[Assistant] That hill used to make me laugh because I used to watch players have to go up and down it.


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[Assistant] Maybe they are. Maybe they are moving everything to the stadium. I'll check into it. Cause if that's the case, if they kinda hampered and can't really extend it and do all that. Might as well move it.


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[Assistant] I would love to play. Back in my day, I would love to play the Browns. You know why? Like against the Browns? Yeah, kid. Why? Cause I know what I got every play.


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[Assistant] They don't move? That's the hardest. Listen, when you play defense, the hardest part is when they start, when them dude, the receiver start motioning over and now you gotta think to yourself, oh shoot, does this check, does this change my responsibility? If it's not, especially if it's not man, if it's man, you just go with it. But if it's not that, it's some type of zone, you gotta think to yourself.


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[Assistant] What do I got? So what I used to do is, I used to get a whiteboard.


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[Assistant] When it happened in real time, it always makes you have to think, like, unless you just know the playbook like the back of your hand, you always think like, oh my god, what's my new responsibility? The fact that they don't do that? Oh yeaah, just take the snap, take the picture of the playbook or the formation, you know what you got and you can start thinking about other things.


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[Assistant] I mean think about, think about Miami. Miami, they, they motioned Tyreek Hill and everybody. Oh my god, where is he gonna stop? Where is he going? You think about Kansas City when they beat the Philadelphia Eagles. Just sending a motion coming back and then boom, sending him back across, left Kaderius Tony wide open, so.


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[Assistant] That most of the stuff is really real when it comes to DB because there's so much communication that has to happen that you can cause a lot of confusion.


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[Assistant] Well, Flacco came in, Flacco came in with the, I'm playing with House Money. Like, I'm just let the ball fly type thing.


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[Assistant] I think Deshaun was more, I gotta get back into the groove of myself, you know, and I think once he started getting there, boom, he got hurt and he had to deal with all these injuries.


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[Assistant] So I think this is going to be one of those days he's going to start off slow and then ramp up.


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[Assistant] He gets down though. I don't think he like lowers his shoulder. He's not like Anthony Richardson or Josh Allen.


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[Assistant] I think Deshawn will have a great season this season. I don't know why I feel like that. I think that they'll do something.


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[Assistant] That will make this fan base go, oh my god, Andrew Berry does it every year. He gets somebody or brings somebody in that gets everybody excited about the season, so I don't expect nothing different there. Uhm, as far as the re- restructuring the contract go, I mean, you always said at some point, they gonna have to pay the bill. Right.


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[Assistant] If they did re-structure their contracts, how much do you think they can?


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[Assistant] So he can say, he can say I'll take five and a half and give me three in the center.


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[Assistant] Well, this is, since, since we have such a great owner in Jimmy, in Dee Haslam, who does a tremendous job.


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[Assistant] I think that y'all do an unbelievable job of paying people for what they're going to be. Maybe not necessarily what they are at the moment. Are you asking for a raise? And the reason that I bring that up is because I think


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[Assistant] This guy on your radio staff, by the name of Tyvis Powell, I think, like, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's one of the greatest, but I think he does a pretty good job in the pregame and postgame. Not only handling the callers, but he does an excellent job of being a voice for athletes and coaches.


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[Assistant] He does just a really unique perspective that for some odd reason, after he says something on the radio and we go interview the players or the coaches, they literally say exactly what Tyvis said.


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[Assistant] But, just an extra two, maybe three hundred dollars on my check. You know, I would greatly appreciate it. It would go a long way. You know, I got two kids. I want to, you know, start putting their college funds away. This would be a great job. You could think of it that way, you know.


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[Assistant] I think he's got two left. Was it a three year deal or four year deal? Three? Four? I don't remember. So you're telling me he's got to get up for the next two years and continue to train, take time away from his family.


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[Assistant] You want to get up for two more years, take time away from your family, get your body all beat up.


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[Assistant] Watch he have a phenomenal year this year too. Everyone will be thrilled. I think he's gonna have fun.


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[Assistant] I don't know. J.Wheels could get traded. Who you putting it left?


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[Assistant] You guys just have to visit Fandual.com slash UCSS to bet on college hoops until they cut down the nets.


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[Assistant] Go ahead. Yeah, before we get to Super Chats, I'm gonna toss it here to Earl, who's got a new 216 episode coming out tomorrow.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, we got five Super Chess to go through real quick here. First one from Levi Mayfield. James signed his contract today. Covered that. We've got Zach Huffman. Mike is out of pocket and Bull is right as usual on the Jerry Judy contract. Zach. I thought that was going to be on the Chiefs thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was, that was really early on in the show. Uh, from our Mac dog. I think the Browns should go 14 and three, but I have to factor in a couple of bad games for at least a 12 and five record finishing a game ahead of last season. Go Browns.


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[Assistant] From a boy, Daryl, UCSS is the best sports show in Cleveland hands down. Then from Don Tavius Winston.


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[Assistant] Where's top five? Real quick, hands up my bad. I forgot to designate no sports questions. So most of these are sports questions. So if you're a member and you joined the chat real quick, we'll probably answer your guys's questions first. If they're not in sports. All right. And we didn't have a chance to make quotes today. Top five. Mike, we got one from you yesterday. Take it, Steve. What'd I say yesterday?


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[Assistant] Uhm, but we're gonna get to the Cavs in just a couple of minutes. Obviously that game was wacky and wild. Free agency starting, could Joe Flack will be back, all of it coming up, but real quick.


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[Assistant] I had bought good seats because I wanted, it was four kids, I wanted them to be like real up close and get good view. The problem was, we were baking in the sun.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. But I, I, I don't know, whatever. So, after, by the end of the second inning, the kids could barely, you know, sit.


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[Assistant] And this couple is sitting there and they're getting agitated that we haven't all sat down yet. And the guy had an attitude. And I'm like,


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[Assistant] And at first I was like, okay, you know, we're blocking him, I get it. But he, he made it, then he starts making, so I let it go initially.


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[Assistant] And then we sat down, and the guy's like, oh, it's about time. So I got up out of my seat, I walked, cause he was sitting two seats behind me, I walked over to the guy, and I'm like, what is your effing problem?


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[Assistant] I was talking about the pigeons. You know, they were on the roof. Exactly. Now listen, I'm not gonna lie. If I thought that guy could kick my ass, I wouldn't have probably done it. You wouldn't have worn no smoke. Cause I'm old. Right.


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[Assistant] When I was 20, the guy could be twice my size, I would've gone for it. But I'm 52, so I'm gonna pick and choose. This, I knew this guy was gonna be no issue if anything came to it. And so I, but I was pissed. And then he didn't say anything the rest of the day. So that was that. But then later,


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[Assistant] I'm explaining some of the things, cause the other family were with.


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[Assistant] It's, it's, it's all girls and then one little boy, right? Uhm.


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[Assistant] Turns around. She was like a 50 year old woman. She's wearing these headphones that are like from the 70s. These giant headphones.


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[Assistant] Exactly. But I don't know, are the guardians broadcasting these games on the radio in Florida? Yea. They are? All of them? Okay. I guess so. But she turns around and she goes, Kenny, I appreciate your knowledge of the game, but can you please stop talking?


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[Assistant] And I'm like, I wasn't even, like, I know I can be loud. Trust me, I understand I'm loud.


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[Assistant] But for me, I was at a normal level, which is louder than most people, but not outrageously loud. I wasn't yelling or anything.


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[Assistant] You know how you have the baggage up on top? One of the doors to the baggage comes flying open.


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[Assistant] As we're landing, so you're not supposed to get up. So this guy, it was right across the road from me, so this guy behind, like,


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[Assistant] One back and one over behind me. He, he was a really tall guy. He gets his hands up to hold it.


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[Assistant] So yesterday, Anthony texted me and said, you know, you've been off for a while, is there anything specifically you want to talk about? And uhm,


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[Assistant] I wonder what the, we're always talking about sports books, right? We talk about the FanDuel sports book and, uh, there's odds for everything.


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[Assistant] Right, right, right. You would think, I mean, I don't know, but, you know, you've talked a lot about how he does a lot of the little things. All the little stuff, yea. And that's why he gets minutes.


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[Assistant] It was just ridiculous. I mean, how many guys have gone five for five from three in a quarter period? Well, you said only two this year.


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[Assistant] Behind Milwaukee for the two seed. Now you're only, especially when you got Minnesota coming up on Friday, I think. And then Phoenix on Monday. Phoenix, so you got some tough games. Even Atlanta's not.


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[Assistant] Listen, we know every Clevelander's a big time sports fan, so even though they're professional athletes, or in Jason's case, now a former professional athlete, you know they're gonna be diehard about the other sports. One last thing before we get to Mobley, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, good job out of you, Lima. Uhm, so let's talk about Evan Mobley, right? You need to read before we talk about Mobley?


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[Assistant] Alright, so, Mobly gets hurt in the third quarter. There's two aspects of the Mobly injury. One is the injury.


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[Assistant] And what that means, I don't think we've gotten any updates yet today.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right, right. So that, that's one part of this is the injury itself. The other part is the fact that it seems like...


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[Assistant] You know, Moly hasn't necessarily had the chance to develop.


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[Assistant] Because when the Cavs made the trade for Donovan Mitchell, the focus of the team was different.


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[Assistant] For the two seed. They just beat the best team in basketball shorthanded. I understand they hadn't played well the last two weeks, but overall,


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[Assistant] Since whatever that, their hot streak started in November. The All-Star Break. No, no, no, when their hot streak started. Oh, December 16th. December 16th. Okay. Overall, for the last almost three months, two and a half months, outside of two weeks before yesterday,


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[Assistant] We can't worry about Mobley's development. When Mobley first came back from injury a month ago, whatever it was, we all were like, let him shoot, let him shoot, let him shoot. Well now that's over. Because now the playoffs is six weeks away and he's hurt. So that's done.


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[Assistant] Right, at this point, that's maybe a next year thing. We'll see. But, I think you, I'm with you.


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[Assistant] If this is like a serious sprained ankle, he could miss the rest of the regular season.


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[Assistant] I think their best, so their best, let's think about this guys. Let's speculate ahead.


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[Assistant] Their best lineup for closing games. If everyone's healthy? If everyone's healthy. In my opinion, it's Garland, Mitchell, Allen, uh, Okoro.


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[Assistant] And then I'm not sure who, who's the fifth guy. And do you agree with those four?


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[Assistant] Last thing, 30 seconds, Mike, before we move on to football. Is there a center out there for the free agent market at this point that's worth picking up with Mobley Hurt? To play a few minutes.


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[Assistant] We'll bring that up again. Anthony, let's get to some football here.


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[Assistant] Guys, free agency. It feels like it's coming quicker this year. It probably isn't, but maybe because the Browns went to the playoffs. I don't know. But, uh, free agency starts Monday.


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[Assistant] I believe at noon is the beginning of the tampering period and then Wednesday at 4 I think is when guys can officially sign. But as we know, unlike baseball,


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[Assistant] In football, everything happens really in those first couple of days. So, uh, next week's gonna be bonkers in terms of free agency. One thing I did not expect to read yesterday afternoon was an article by Mike Florio on Pro Football Talk.


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[Assistant] Where he said, he's heard from sources, that the Browns talked with Joe Flacco last week and that Flacco's first choice is to remain with the Browns.


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[Assistant] Nobody's making me a starter. I'm not, you know. Now, could you go to a team with a rookie quarterback and maybe be the starter for a few weeks? Maybe.


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[Assistant] He's been in NFL a lot. And Dustin has said similar things. By the way, a lot of people have been asking me about Dustin. He's doing very well. I spoke to him yesterday. Shout out to Dustin. Shout out to you, Dustin. You'll hear from him soon. You'll hear from him. I'll just say that. I don't want, you know, let him talk for himself, but he's doing really, really, really well. So uhm, there can be an issue when, see there's two things here.


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[Assistant] There's two potential issues with Joe Flacco. One...


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[Assistant] Is how will Deshaun Watson react to them signing a guy who's maybe he sees as a legitimate threat. The other is, the other players in the locker room, some of them may be thinking, oh, we played better with Joe last year, I want Joe to play.


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[Assistant] I think Deshaun Watson, even with some mental hurdles that he's had to overcome the last couple of years and will still continue to have to overcome, I think he believes in himself.


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[Assistant] There's no way in my mind that Deshaun Watson became as good in the NFL as he was before coming to Cleveland if he didn't think he was better than a 39-year-old Joe Placko.


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[Assistant] Even if they're, I remember Dustin saying to me in Buffalo, that, cause when he was in Buffalo, they had no quarterback. All their quarterbacks suck.


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[Assistant] That linebacker's better than that linebacker. That offensive lineman's better than that offensive lineman. It's just part of the deal. You're grown men. You're professionals. Yes, there will be guys thinking, some guys thinking that Joe Flacco should play, especially if Deshaun Watson doesn't play well.


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[Assistant] I hear you say, but I don't think it matters, because ultimately, if Joe Flacco becomes the quarterback at some point next year for whatever reason, most likely injury.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know. I'm not as convinced as everybody else that the offense is going to go through this drastic change because Ken Dorsey is here. Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see. Uh, but I don't think it's a big deal.


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[Assistant] We talked about this when the season ended. This is an incredible gauntlet in the AFC led by a behemoth in Kansas City.


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[Assistant] And I believe that the only way you can ultimately get past Kansas City is that you have Deshaun Watson playing like he did in Houston or somewhere close to it. But, there's steps along the way.


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[Assistant] And if Deshaun Watson is gonna, if Deshaun Watson is gonna miss a few games...


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[Assistant] That's right. And if you're gonna have any chance against the Chiefs, you would think. I know the Bengals did beat them in Kansas City one year, but


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[Assistant] Tomorrow, Friday, all next week. But quickly on the wide receivers, now that the franchise tag period is over.


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[Assistant] How panicked are you or concerned, uh, that those three guys are off the board, guys?


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[Assistant] You can't get a top 15 wide receiver without giving up a first round pick and they don't have one.


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[Assistant] One last thing on the wide receivers that I want to say here.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't think a trade, I don't, I don't, listen, there could always be something that comes out of nowhere that you don't expect.


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[Assistant] I don't see a trade scenario that's realistic for the Browns. I'm worried about Stefan Diggs.


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[Assistant] Hey, it's thinking outside the box, there's zero reason for the Lions to trade Jamison Williams, so that's not gonna happen. To me, if I'm the Browns, I am targeting Marquise Brown and Calvin Ridley, and I'm getting one of those guys. I thought you were gonna say you were gonna get both of them. If I lie, I'll say, dang, boo, you came back from big action, let's get it. I'd be happy to. I'm getting one of those guys.


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[Assistant] Nah, well, but they wouldn't have to do that. But, but listen, you don't need both. You don't need, I take both, but you don't need both. Here's the thing about Marquise Brown and Calvin Ridley. They're the only two guys that the Browns can realistically get, not including the draft.


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[Assistant] At least mid-tier to back-tier wide receiver one potential.


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[Assistant] Ridley looks like he's becoming a wide receiver one. He's out of the league a couple of years last year, inconsistent.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think the Browns should really make it a priority to get one of those two guys. I hope they do. Alright Anthony, what do you got for us before we get to running backs in free agency?


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[Assistant] That's good. Uhm, our- It was hysterical by the way.


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[Assistant] I look forward to hearing about it. Uh, let's talk about the running back position.


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[Assistant] So look at this list. Oh lord. Tony Pollard, Derrick Henry, Henry, Saquon Barkley, DeAndre Swift, Josh Jacobs, Alton Eckler, Joe Mixon, I know, I thought he'd be cut last year, he wasn't. The Bengals, I'll give them credit for this.


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[Assistant] When they sign a guy to a contract, they often don't cut him, even if you should.


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[Assistant] Cause they, they honor the contract. It's the one thing they're really good about with money. But I think it'll change this year. I do think Joe Mixon will be cut.


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[Assistant] That be, and part of me is like, the cap's fictional, it doesn't matter, Jimmy doesn't care, but if, they're not gonna spend a ton of money running back. I just can't see that happening. But I think most of those guys, outside of maybe Barclay, are bargain basement.


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[Assistant] Okay, I, I am more in that camp. Not as far as G, but I'm more on his side of that camp. I have two options for this, by the way. To me, there's an easy answer as to who the Browns should sign from that list. Go ahead, who do you guys got? Saquon.


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[Assistant] I think Swift's a 1A. I beli- I believe he's a 1A. Now I'm okay- Swift will be my second choice. Josh Jacobs is not interested. He wants to- because-


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[Assistant] I don't- Barkley and Jacobs are every down backs. I don't need that. I got Nick Chubb, I don't need an every down back, I don't like the fit of them together.


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[Assistant] He is an elite pass catching back. He was when Zeke was there. And he was so good.


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[Assistant] As a guy who would get 8, 10 touches, 12 touches a game. Once he got too high on him, he's not good. Now, Swift can do that too.


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[Assistant] But, and he can catch passes also, but he's been injury prone in his career.


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[Assistant] And he's been up and down. Pollard was not as good last year.


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[Assistant] But he also had the advantage of playing next to a quarterback that ran the ball a lot.


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[Assistant] If the Browns keep Nick Chubb, it's because they think he's gonna be that guy again.


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[Assistant] As it was, I want to throw that thing. Mike, we always remember St. Juan Barclay as a rookie, which was special.


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[Assistant] Well, that's not gonna be safe. I think, uh, if you, if all of a sudden you sign Calvin Ridley and Tony Pollard, I mean, you are loaded with weapons. Yeah. Yeah, yeah!


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[Assistant] But, but I think you can get, maybe I'm crazy, but I think Pollard or, or Swift are getting 5, 6, 7 million max. And plus, I'm not gonna have to lock into them for more than one year, so if it doesn't work out, I move on.


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[Assistant] Now, now, Kansas City did it mostly with one running back to be fair. Yeaah. And he was a seventh round pick. But they got it right. But, but they found a


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like the idea of Pollard or Swift with Chubb. You keep forward as your third back. Yep. And that's it. Then keep it, keep it moving.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, another football topic. You gotta read before we get to it. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] So, uh, I don't remember when this came out, if it was Monday or maybe it was last week.


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[Assistant] So okay, so there was, you know, every year around this time, there are rules, proposals that are put out by teams or whatever.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, pushing the trade deadline back. I'm 100% with Andrew Barry. Of course it should be pushed back.


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[Assistant] But one of the other rules that you guys didn't get a chance to discuss, and we'll get to it now, is a potential significant change to the way kickoffs are done. Mike, you got the details for us.


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[Assistant] Well no, I don't think you could, I think you gotta put it all together, Mike, because the reason they'd have to do this on the onside kick is because of where they're putting the players, I think, for the new kick rules. Isn't that a big part of this?


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[Assistant] The kick and return teams would line up on the receiving teams 40-


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[Assistant] They changed the rule in the NFL, I don't remember exactly when they did this, but if, on a kickoff,


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[Assistant] Uhm, if the ball, like right now the ball, you could just declare like, you could, uh, essentially declare a fair catch on a kickoff.


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[Assistant] And to, the reason they've been making the kickoffs less thing is because they didn't want these big collisions. But what Mike's point is,


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[Assistant] The team that's kicking off outside of the kicker, the rest of the team will be at the receiving team's 40.


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[Assistant] And the rest of the receiving team besides one or two kick returners will be at the 35. So they'll be five yards away from each other. So there'll be no massive collisions because they won't be running all these yards. And that's why part of this they have to


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[Assistant] It's very complicated, and the league doesn't often make drastic changes like this. It would certainly make kickoffs way more fun. Here's the thing, when they first changed the extra point rule, I was like, what's the point? Why are they doing this? Who cares?


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[Assistant] But it made the extra point a more interesting play. This would make the kickoff a more interesting play. Not only because there'll be more returns, but also...


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[Assistant] Now the kick, like. There's strategy involved. Absolutely. A lot of strategy. Right now, on most kickoffs, the kicker just kicks it out of the end zone, or into the end zone.


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[Assistant] Right, but now the kicker is never going to be trying to kick it in the end zone. You go from a situation where kickers have always been trying to kick it in the end zone, now they're trying to get it as close to the goal line without going over. That's insane.


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[Assistant] The offensive players that are on the line, those guys can't move either.


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[Assistant] So only the two return guys and the kicker can move before the ball is caught.


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[Assistant] What if it hits the ground? That's what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] Let's say it hits the ground. And the return guy tries to pick it up. Can the guys not run until he picks it up or can they run as soon as it hits the ground?


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[Assistant] But it's not, and it's not just the kick returns. It's that if you kick it into the end zone, the offense starts to do 35. That's a massive change.


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[Assistant] And I'm all for it. I like it even if it even if it means there's no surprise on-site kicks because they weren't that


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[Assistant] You can overload the field so you're more likely to recover it. Still not likely to recover it but more likely than you are currently. So I'll give it a thumbs up.


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[Assistant] My nephew, I was in, uh, Florida, obviously. You were? And, uh, yeah, in case you hadn't heard. And my sister and my brother-in-law and my nephew came down for the second weekend we were there. Not just, they were going to two spring training games and we met up with them for dinner. And my nephew, who's a baseball player, uh, that's his passion, that's what he's really good at.


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[Assistant] He hasn't played football, he did as a little kid, but he's like,


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[Assistant] He's been practicing being a kicker. He wants to, he's like, I want to get her playing football because I love baseball. But he's like, maybe I can get a scholarship being a kicker. So he's been training as a kicker.


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[Assistant] And I said, well, that's a good idea, but also think about long snapper. And I said, and also, because I was telling him that this guy I worked with in New York, his son just got a college scholarship being a long snapper.


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[Assistant] So, spring training well underway right now. We are three weeks, tomorrow, three weeks from tomorrow is the start of the, well, three weeks from tomorrow is the start of the Major League season for most teams.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a little weird, but I don't care. We're, uh, for our fantasy baseball league, we're actually drafting after that. So we're drafting the day before the season starts. And if you draft anybody on the Padres and Dodgers, you're getting credit for their stats for those two days, whether they're good or bad. So if you have a pitcher and he gives up 15 runs, you're stuck with that.


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[Assistant] In, yeaah, South Korea, Taiwan, China's coming up, Japan certainly is huge, uh, and then in Central and South America, it's big.


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[Assistant] Uh, especially in northern, uh, South America. But, but, uh, you know, in Europe.


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[Assistant] That even just at being an American sport, that football isn't more popular total than basketball and baseball, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, I'm watching this show on HBO Max called Tokyo Vice. It's a really good show. Based very loosely on a true story. And they're often, like, a lot of the scenes take place at the batting cage. Anyway, uhm, so the reason we brought up baseball and spring training is because


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[Assistant] I was fortunate to speak to Terry Francona yesterday. The former Guardians manager sat down with me for about 20 minutes.


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[Assistant] We're gonna play a clip on it about, from the interview and we'll talk more about it. If you'd like to see the whole interview, I'd love it if you checked out my podcast, The Bullpen with Adam The Bull.


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[Assistant] You can check it out on YouTube. Hit the subscribe button, just look it up. I post, you know, it came out yesterday and Terry was great, was very generous with his time.


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[Assistant] Uh, cause he's still working for the team in, in a limited capacity.


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[Assistant] But we did get into, we have the question on the clip, I can't remember.


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[Assistant] Okay, so let me set it up. So I asked Terry Frank, calling up more generally about payrolls in baseball and whether or not he thought it was good or bad for baseball, that there's a large disparity between the top payrolls and the bottom. Here's what he said.


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[Assistant] I was Terry Frank Cota on my podcast. Make sure you check out the whole thing. Again, please hit the subscribe button. We talked a lot of different stuff. He was, I knew he wouldn't.


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[Assistant] I asked him about the Hall of Fame, he's very, he's such a modest guy, he didn't, he didn't want to get into it, but, uh, and a lot of other things after Jose Ramirez and Austin Hedges coming back and all, and all that.


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[Assistant] But specifically on the payroll, he was honest, still, listen, in Boston he didn't care about payrolls because they had one of the higher payrolls. But he says, yes, I don't think it's good for the game to have such a disparity, but what's the answer?


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[Assistant] There's no easy answer. It's very complicated and it would take


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[Assistant] Cooperation from players and owners that is hard to find. But what did you guys think about what he said there?


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[Assistant] That's the thing you can do. The players would argue, well, if we give these teams that don't spend money more draft picks, then they'll just spend less money. That's correct.


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[Assistant] I mean, there is a salary cap, by the way. It's very, very loose. It's easy around. It's not a cap. There's just penalties for going over it. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] But at least 130 should be the salary floor. There's no excuse for team. 130 would be an average of 5 million per player. I mean, you gotta be able to average at least 5 million per player.


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[Assistant] The Yankees, yes, the Yankees make way more money than the Guardians do. There's nobody that's going to deny that. They have their own TV network.


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[Assistant] I get it, nobody is expecting the Guardians to have a payroll as high as the Yankees, but it's gotta be close enough.


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[Assistant] And I can't remember if it was in that clip, but we talked about the fact that


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[Assistant] When the Yankees and Mets and Dodgers...


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[Assistant] And then to a little bit lesser degree, the Cubs, the Cardinals, some of these other teams, when they make mistakes, it's not necessarily


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[Assistant] The spending, like, the guardians have spent some money in some big contracts, but the guardians can't make any mistakes. If you screw up when you sign Michael Bourne or Swisher or Josh Bell, it screws you.


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[Assistant] Believe it or not, don't, you know, they've been affected by the penalties, or they've chosen to be affected. It's stupid, they don't need to be, they can afford to spend more. But they've been hesitant to go over the, the, some of the ca-


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[Assistant] Some of the penalty numbers because they don't want to pay these extra penalties. So that's part of it is


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[Assistant] I think the expansion of the playoffs is a negative. I never liked it. Uhm, and it's encouraging, it's easier to make the playoffs now in baseball. Now it's still the hardest because the least amount of teams make it.


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[Assistant] But, the more teams that are in, the less you're encouraged to spend because you're like, well we're a middle of the road team. Why do I need to spend an extra 20 million? I think we can make the playoffs anyway.


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[Assistant] It would be worse, like if, let's say football had the baseball system, it would be much worse than football.


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[Assistant] Because in, and in basketball too. In basketball and football.


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[Assistant] The one great quarterback, the one great Lebron type player makes much more of a difference than in baseball.


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[Assistant] We've seen it. Mike Trout was the best. Look at the angels, yeaah. Was Mike Trout showing up? Now, Trout's fallen off a little, but for a number of years, Otani and Trout were the two best players in baseball.


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[Assistant] I would think you would have to do that with every team though, because you don't want to just say, oh, if your payroll is under 150 million, you could get this bonus, because then that would encourage teams not to spend.


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[Assistant] But what's fascinating in the end is because baseball is such a strange sport and so the hardest to predict.


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[Assistant] That the Dodgers, with all the money they've spent, have won one World Series in the last 36 years and that was during the COVID year. The Mets had the largest payroll in the history of baseball that year and did not make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] The Yankees had one of the top three payrolls. Did not make the playoffs last year. And the Diamondbacks. The Mets in fact have not won the World Series since 1986. And they've, they don't spend like the Yankees traditionally. They, now they got a richer owner so they spend more.


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[Assistant] Money doesn't guarantee anything at all, but it helps you make up for mistakes. And the guardians, unfortunately, have made a lot of mistakes the last couple of years.


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[Assistant] He's a good talent. Could you tell me why? But until he proves it in the majors, I don't want to see. Can you tell me why?


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[Assistant] I think with him they may feel like he's not ready for the majors yet. Remember, you gotta take spring training numbers, especially early in the season with a grain of salt. Because you don't know, like, I would have to go and look and see who to chase the Lauder get his hits off of.


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[Assistant] Did he get it off guys who were pitching an A-ball this year? Or did he get it off Major League pitchers? That's a big difference.


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[Assistant] Don't listen to my, I'll give you numbers, but the numbers of years I'm giving you may not be the perfect number. It may need to be adjusted. But I've said for years that what they should do, the current rule is,


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[Assistant] A guy can't become a free agent until after six years. But really, teams, especially the small market teams, have manipulated that.


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[Assistant] To where you get a guy for seven years because you don't bring them up until later.


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[Assistant] But, what I think they should do instead, and again, I don't know the exact number, I'd have to really do more research to find out the right exact number.


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[Assistant] What they should do is you have a guy for whether it's 9, 10, 11 years from the time you acquire him in either the draft or if he's a foreign player in free agency.


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[Assistant] You gotta figure out the exact numbers, but like, in my mind, it was like, okay, you draft a kid out of college, you got him for eight years.


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[Assistant] They've screwed up because they have these glut of prospects. Some of them have lost their value. They should have traded them some for better players. I don't know what happened. They got, they paralyzed themselves. I don't know if they were scared.


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[Assistant] Listen, they've traded away some good players. They blew it on Nolan Jones. I bet she becomes an All-Star this year.


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[Assistant] Uh, Will Benson, I still gotta see more, but he looked pretty good last year. The kid, Yanar Diaz, is gonna be starting for the Astros and Catchers. Uh, Kamenera is gonna be starting for the Tampa Babies.


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[Assistant] But these other, like, they gave up Nolan Jones for a 40-man roster spot. And they never gave him an opportunity. Yandy at least played in the majors here for a while. You know, and now I think after they've blown it on some of those, in the last year I think they've been scared to pull the trigger on some other traders.


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[Assistant] I think it's possible. I do. Would you be for that? Uh, absolutely. But you, I, you know.


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[Assistant] So maybe they go with Rockio and Rockio had a good season in the minors last year. I'm not sure what they're gonna do. I know Miles Shaw can't be the starting center fielder, I'll tell you that.


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[Assistant] I, I, I still say they should go, they should either make a trade or go get a veteran outfielder, but it appears that ship has sailed.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think it's probably going to be Laureano, who they got from Oakland.


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[Assistant] I don't know what Centerfield is. I think they're hoping Florial grabs the Centerfield job because he was a big-time prospect and he has dominated the minors, but in his limited opportunities with the Yankees he did not perform.


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[Assistant] Guys are starting going down in the minors, the pitchers are going to start going three, four innings, and we have a better field. First couple of weeks of spring training, I'm paying attention, but I'm not locked in. Now I'm getting more locked in on the games.


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[Assistant] As the players never agreed to it, the players union, unlike, the players union in baseball, unlike the other sports, is strong. And they have, they would, you know, back in the day when there were strikes every five years, in like the 70s and 80s, into the early, into the 90s when there was the last strike before the COVID strike, uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, the players, that was one, they wouldn't budge, and they've always been a much stronger union than the other sports. I mean, think about it. The football players union always caves on these things, always. That's why they're in this ridiculous spot where the running backs get screwed, where the franchise tag doesn't let players, you know, like, football brings in the most money.


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[Assistant] Yeah, of course. No, no, listen. The payroll doesn't guarantee you anything. The Rays have consistently won. The A's for many years have been, not recently, or not too recently, but they have been good. There's a lot of those smaller market teams that have been good. But you have teams like the Pirates that have been bad forever.


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[Assistant] There was a guy, I can't even remember what it was, last year I think, or the year before, who pitched both ways.


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[Assistant] I don't know that he wouldn't get that much because ultimately he's still going to only pitch once every five days.


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[Assistant] I mean, yeaah, he could throw more pitches, sure. Uh, this guy Pat Venditti, he didn't really pitch much in the majors, he wasn't that good.


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[Assistant] So, it'd have to be a really good pitcher, but it's an interesting thought, yeaah.


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[Assistant] He's got something in one super chat and then we'll give you mentions. Just go do that real quick.


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[Assistant] You know what's funny is, and you know this G, Mike, you don't know this, but, but, uh. Why do I know this? Well, cause you weren't here. Oh. So Earl will know this too.


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[Assistant] So from 2011 til the, til through 2018.


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[Assistant] Every year we were having conversation about drafting quarterback. Every year. Every single year.


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[Assistant] And we really have not had that conversation since Baker got drafted.


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[Assistant] Because even when things were, we were starting, we were, some of us, like G and I were off Baker, we weren't really talking about drafting a quarterback at that point. But, and I hope it doesn't come to this, if Deshaun Watson has a terrible season, we're talking about it next year for the first time in a while.


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[Assistant] Where's this guy gonna get drafted? Late, late round. Mid, mid to late round. Day free, day free pick. When we can throw it 70 yards, why is he so late being drafted?


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[Assistant] Alright, that's it, we'll see you on overtime on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. PEACE!


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[Assistant] The first thing I thought about was actually after the post game. You know, when he said Don wasn't in so somebody had to do it. And that's what we talk a lot about is players asserting themselves and the moment not being too big and actually wanting to be that dude in that moment.


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[Assistant] And like, the confidence that he has in his self, the confidence that he has in his own skillset.


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[Assistant] Like man, it's greatly appreciated. It never looked, I do, I had a feeling that shot had a, had a possibility of going in when he let it go. Cause in that last four minutes of the quarter, dude was cooking. Like anything that was leaving his hand that was going up, it was going in and it's funny because on this show, man, we've talked


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[Assistant] I'll take it. I had an eight leg parlay and I'll take it. We won. And like, I had to laugh about it cause I do better. Who screwed you?


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[Assistant] I mean, I look at this game, the game to me...


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[Assistant] I don't think this game would have been as close. Or you could, you could switch it to if Darius Garland would have showed up like the rest of the stars showed up in this game, this game wouldn't have been as close. You know what I mean? I think they did a great job of feeding a hot hand in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] To me, Max Struths has already identified that he's clutch. He's already proven to us that he has that mindset. We've talked.


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[Assistant] On more than one occasion about Max Truth being a dude that's verbally said, I want the ball in my hand in the closing moments. At outside of Donovan Mitchell, I can't think of another player on his team


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[Assistant] Who outright always goes out there and say, hey, put the ball in my hand. We talk about the core four on this team. Which rather than other those, those three dudes have you ever talked, talked about like put the ball in my hand and winning time?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, we seen Darius Garland wave off Donovan Mitchell one time, and I gotta give him his credit where his credit is due, but I need that dude to be way more consistent, right? You know what I mean? And if he's not gonna be...


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[Assistant] If he's not gonna show up, that's when you definitely need the others to show up. You got Keris Lebert has six dimes off the bench, right? You got Max True score 15 points in the last three minutes and 42 seconds of the damn game.


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[Assistant] You see what I'm saying? So like, the fact that you had the other dude show up,


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[Assistant] It was huge, but all I'm saying is I don't think this game should have been this close to begin with. The cast has 16 turnovers to Dallas' 5.


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[Assistant] Streus and Spider kinda bailed out with what I thought was a sloppy game, if I'm being totally honest with you.


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[Assistant] I mean, adversity builds character, right? And when you, when you look at this game and you look at all the different reasons of why the Cavaliers could have lost this game, and yet they still won this game, that's a testament to this team not being the same Cleveland Cavaliers from last season.


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[Assistant] That's a team that's a little bit more mature and can kind of like grit and grind it through those tough adverse moments. Like we can sit up here and we can nitpick all we want to.


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[Assistant] In any NBA game, nothing is perfect, right? There's gonna always be certain things that happen or don't happen that results in the outcome of the game.


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[Assistant] And so yeaah, I don't want to overshadow what Max Drews did cause it was amazing, but I'm not going to sit up here and act like it was the most wild thing I had ever seen.


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[Assistant] Right, I done seen Lebron do some crazy ass things. You know, you go back to the Detroit game or the game when he hit in the playoffs game two against Orlando. Right, there's so many different moments that you can point to. I guess...


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[Assistant] I'm just satisfied and thankful that he hit that shot because if he didn't...


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[Assistant] Or why in the hell did you draw up an inbounds pass that had Evan Mobley as your trigger guy? Or how this team that was going up against a Dallas backcourt that's on the defensive side is very porous and how yet you still ended up with 16 unforced turnovers, right? And so like those are the things that


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[Assistant] Those are the things that you can build off of, work on and continue to get better. Another thing real quick, cause I know we got to go. The Cavs got up 43, they shot 20 for 40, 50% from the field.


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[Assistant] Donovan Mitchell talked about that 40 attempt mark being the target. The Cavs is three and two, uh, in their last five games. The two losses, they didn't get 40 attempts up from three point range.


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[Assistant] Definitely. Hey Tim, you know, that fourth quarter, you know, we were, before you came on, we were talking about last night looked like a playoff game. It seemed like it had a playoff atmosphere to it. You watch the game and you look at the fourth quarter and both teams, uh, offensively, they were cooking. They were both smoking hot.


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[Assistant] Uhm, as the anticipation built towards the end of that game. From where you were sitting at when Struth took that shot.


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[Assistant] From your vantage point, did it look like it was good? Like did you, did you have to question, uh, this may or may not go? Because I was listening to some of the post game and Donovan Mitchell said, he said, I ain't gonna say I called bucket. He said, but he knew he had a chance when they left his hand.


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[Assistant] Tim, you know, I'm glad you said that. You got a first-hand view of this team, uh, every day, all day, in practice when you're covering the games. Uh, Darius Garland has played 13 games since he's been back from injury. He's averaging 13.6 assists, one rebound, shooting 44.7% from the field.


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[Assistant] Do we have, is there cause for pause? Is there reason to be, is there legit concern there or do you believe that Darius Garland is going to be okay?


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[Assistant] No, I mean, great interview with Tim, uh, you know.


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[Assistant] Darius is gonna be alright. He said Darius is gonna be alright. So, I mean, he's around him more than I am. I'm somebody with an opinion that don't have many facts outside of the games they play. He watches him practice, he travels with him, he watches him play. So, if he says the man is elite, he must be a diamond player.


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[Assistant] People kinda get on our case for being an apologist for Deshaun Watson and making excuses for Deshaun Watson. And people who really, really love Darius Garland are afraid to be like constructively critical of him when it's warranted. Like this dude is a max player and I get it, he missed 19 games due to injury. But he's played 13 games since he's been back. Like, I think people are, are kinda like,


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[Assistant] In my mind, I really had this mindset going into this game. Donovan Mitchell had just took the podium. He'd have defended you. I know you got to be at least like rolling off that gas alone. You got Kyrie coming into the building. You hear all the noise. What if he do it tonight?


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[Assistant] I hate this picture. Can you please take that graphic down and we can talk about it?


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[Assistant] Uhm, really don't know which direction I would go yet, man. Tomorrow is tomorrow. The day holds its own set of whatever. So, I guess I'll kinda cross that bridge when I get there. Gotta get there.


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[Assistant] You right, disclaimer. I mean, the reason why I went that route...


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[Assistant] Like he's 30 plus years old, he didn't have over a thousand yards in each season. He play in Florida, you know, no state tax. Like why in the hell would I want to actually leave on the back end of my career to go somewhere else? And then like, I think like everybody else we've talked to.


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[Assistant] Pittman, he's going back where he's going. Ridley might be a real option.


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[Assistant] I just look at it like this. Once we get the free agency, I think that the quality of pass rushers is going to be better than the quality of wide receivers. And I think that if you're going to spend free agency dollars, you need to go get you a bonafide pass rusher opposite of miles. I'm more comfortable with Andrew going to trade for a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I was sitting up here yesterday joking around remixing Aaliyah songs, uh, one in a million.


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[Assistant] How many times Andrew Berry gotta tell y'all without telling y'all, man. He really loves Nick Tubb. Every single time that man gets the opportunity to speak on Nick Tubb.


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[Assistant] He tells you without telling you, he don't view Nick Chubb as just a running back. I don't think he views Nick Chubb as just a quote unquote football player. I think he views Nick Chubb as legit a core centerpiece of the Cleveland Browns franchise.


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[Assistant] Yes, a hundred percent Nick Tubb will be wearing a Cleveland Browns uniform next season, the season after that, the season after that, and the season after that. Now we all know the business side of things. He's coming off an injury. Yeaah, he's gonna have to get his contract restructured. Like that kind of goes without saying, but anybody who thinks that Nick Tubb is finna


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[Assistant] You kinda don any jersey that's not brown and orange, you foolin' yourself.


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[Assistant] Hey Mike, before you move on, the chat clowning you, the chat said you ain't know that song. Mike is pretty hip. I think, you know who Ali is, don't you?


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[Assistant] They said he's starting throwing a march, right? Yes. So Friday, he gonna be out there throwing that thing.


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[Assistant] I think he's gonna be fun. I think Deshaun Watson is gonna be okay.


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[Assistant] You know, he's already going through the rehab process.


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[Assistant] You know, reckless speculation, but he'll be on that flight. He'll be our starting quarterback and he'll be ready to go. It's not a question to me about will he be healthy or not. Just be ready to boil out.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, I mean, but you've seen it though, because there is a portion of Browns fans that don't like Deshaun Watson. But, but this is where I get confused. You can like and not like who you, whoever, right? That's on you.


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[Assistant] But I guess the conflict, the interest is, you're a diehard Browns fan, you want to see the Browns win the Super Bowl, but in the same breath because you don't like Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] If Deshaun Watson is healthy and he plays all 17 games and he don't play good, I'mma be the first person talking about it. Because at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] Like, I gotta be real with myself and I gotta be real with the people. I can't sit up here and lie about what I honestly feel just because I've been defending Deshaun Watson. At the end of the day, I cheer for the brown and orange. I've been cheering for the brown and orange before Deshaun Watson was born. So like for me, like,


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[Assistant] You know, you get a full season and you don't play well, I'm going to be the first person telling you that, you know, I got a problem with this.


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[Assistant] Hey Mike, I think like when he gave more context to it when he was having this conversation, it was to me like damn, they should have been doing this. Like I didn't know by the time the NHL reached their trade deadline, Mike, correct me if I'm wrong, they played what, 70 more, 70 or something percent of their games by the end?


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[Assistant] So what I'm saying is, they played by the time they get there, they played at least 70% of their games, right? Same thing with the EBA, they played at least 60% of their games by the time they get to the trade deadline. With the NFL, they're around 40-45% of their games that's already been played.


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[Assistant] So it's less than half of their season. And I think Andrew Berry said his proposal would get that number to about 56%. Which they should be doing. It's been way too early. And then if you think about it, you'd have had the season increase and then the season is probably going to increase another game over the next season or two. So it definitely needs to be moved back.


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[Assistant] Man, it's the NFL. You can get injured anytime you step out there. I don't even really...


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[Assistant] I don't focus too much on the injury side of it. Like, I don't know a football player who's never been hurt before. So...


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[Assistant] Give me some, give me Flacco. Give me, give me Jacobi. You know, those are winning games.


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[Assistant] I think it, to me, it almost signifies that the Browns are going to Brazil. But what did it for me was, you know, I got an email from Steve Becker, I got another email from Mike Lucas asking me about passport information and to get that to them as soon as possible.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, you know, well, why would you be asking me about passport information if I wasn't going to Brazil?


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[Assistant] We gon' put, we gon' give five, give five memberships and then the random five people plus me, Mike and Ant, we gon' all go to, uh, Brazil to cover the Browns.


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[Assistant] Hey, listen, Typhus told me he 30 now. Like since he been 30 more than a little bit. I respect it though. That midlife crisis. It's not midlife crisis, that's that grown man age, man. Listen.


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[Assistant] So when I was, uh, inboxing you and I was telling you about the show, what we were trying to do as far as like, you know, change the narrative for these kids, like, I know a little bit about your story.


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[Assistant] And what I think is cool is, is like when you got big dreams and you can stay persistent, like when B come before A and C jump before all of that, like what would your message be to the youth?


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[Assistant] Who have these big dreams but have yet to encounter the hurdles that's going to come when you're trying to actually reach your end goal.


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[Assistant] Talk about that though, man, cause you from Covington, right? Yeaah. And I know Covington got a high crime rate. I got family that's from Augusta. Yeaah. And you know, they talk about it all the time. I'm from the east side of Cleveland, Tyvis from the east side of Cleveland. Right.


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[Assistant] We know all about that. You know, it's funny, like, you know, we all got dead homies. Just talk about, like, growing up in Covington and, like, just, like, being able to escape, man. Like, being dead or being in a jail and just being where you at now.


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[Assistant] It's funny you say that man, because we talk a lot on this show about athletes here in New York. And I think it's unrealistic to tell, to say an athlete shouldn't hear or see everything because of his occupation. You a human just like me, right? And so this year was...


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[Assistant] Had a lot of adversity for the Cleveland Browns. Y'all heard the noise, people saying the season was over once Deshaun got hurt. Like, what did you learn about yourself and your teammates going through this previous season?


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[Assistant] Like the level of intensity does not lessen at all. It stays the same. And I remember saying like, this is a championship caliber defense. How much better do y'all think you can be in year two playing under Jim shorts than you all was?


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[Assistant] That's funny because, you know, my main talking point when it comes to Kevin Stefanski is I think he's a good leader of men. I think sometimes people get too caught up on the play calling, the situational play calling and things like that. So, you know, when they be like, well, how do you know that?


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[Assistant] To that point, you know, him being a leader of men, like, how is it playing for Kevin Stefanski? And you play defense, like, what impact does he have on you?


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[Assistant] Listen, D, my cousin, right? D told me a story about how Green Bay is planned to New York, and...


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[Assistant] He said he ain't seen none of that. He was a 6 round pick.


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[Assistant] Man, talk about, hey, gotta bring it up, the Texas game, the playoff game, right? Yea, yea, yea. It left a sour taste in our mouths, I'm pretty sure it left a sour taste in your mouth.


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[Assistant] What was that locker room reaction like between you and your brothers, man, after that game where, I ain't gonna lie to you, man, I thought we used to go in there and straight dog walk them. Right, right.


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[Assistant] You know, you look across the entire NFL, if you look at like the safety group, the corner group, you know, you put all of our D.V.'s to mind, right? I think we might have the overall best group, like through and through, throughout the league. Would you say that's pretty accurate? Best in the world.


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[Assistant] I mean, I gamble every night, so I kid.


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[Assistant] Hey, hey, you wanna find a way to like kinda like reduce the fights in baseball? See through pants. I'm not finna roll with me. You ain't got no clothes on. You don't feel like walking up fighting you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and a Chiefs player was alleged of leaking game plans to the opposition while he was a member of the Jets. And if that were to happen in Cleveland, how would the fans react and how should that player be punished? It would be a fun conversation.


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[Assistant] That is correct, but I do want to say, the chase, the louder home run, Steve, take tag board full, traveled far enough to be two, so in my personal record books, they have hit nine home runs in five games.


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[Assistant] Alright, Jay, this next question is something we got a lot online. Anytime we've asked fans for viewer comments or viewer questions over the last two weeks, we've gotten this one, so I figured it's a perfect time to bring it up here. And we got it from a bunch, so I didn't put any specific name to this via social media, but just know we listen and we see your guys' questions.


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[Assistant] If Jimmy Haslam does decide to move the Browns to Brook Park, build a new stadium out there.


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[Assistant] Will the team change, either its nickname, its colors, its logos, none of the above, all of the above, one of the three? What say you?


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[Assistant] According to a quick Google search, it allows a person to increase body mass, grow lean muscle, and negate body fat.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so this is a crazy story, I'll give you the bones of it, but it came out on social media that Michael Hardman, who signed with the Jets in the offseason, was frustrated with his playing time, his role.


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[Assistant] He got beat out for the punt returner job by rookie Xavier Gibson.


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[Assistant] Was clearly unhappy, which is why New York traded him to Kansas City in the middle of the season.


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[Assistant] But several players, including Sauce Gardner and Kenny Uboa, along with punter Thomas Morse that accused him of leaking game plans to opponents, Kansas City and Philadelphia during the season. And now there's a whole kind of scuttlebutt back and forth about what should happen to McCall-Hardman moving forward. So to bring this to Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Let's say, and I'm not even going to name a player because I'm not accusing anyone obviously, but.


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[Assistant] If a Cleveland Browns player was accused of leaking game plans to the Ravens or the Bengals or an opponent, what do you think the proper punishment for that situation would be?


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[Assistant] I don't know what they do. Uh, I don't think so but I'll tell you in one sec.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna watch NASCAR. The whole damn weekend was rained out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I put money on AJ Olmendinger. Nice! So, that's where my fan duo money went.


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[Assistant] As Denny Hamlin, and I was watching this NASCAR series on Netflix, and Denny talked about it. You know, I'm an owner, so he's, he finds himself torn all the time. Like, what do I do in these situations?


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[Assistant] The three point shootout was the best. And then of course, Steph vs. Sabrina, that was fun.


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[Assistant] Like, cause you think about it, you had everybody in the first round score over 20, and then 26 seemed to be the magic number to get to the finals. Right. Like, to me that was the most competitive event.


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[Assistant] I can see where Jay is coming from as far as, as far as like it might have been a sense of pettiness from Donovan Mitchell as, you know, I should have been a starter, so whatever. But I looked at it as like he got bigger fish to fry. You know, he didn't...


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[Assistant] Exhilarate much effort. He really didn't play that hard. He really could care less, but I see the video immediately.