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[Assistant] So when you talk about, uh, mutual attraction being the


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[Assistant] There has to be some amount of mutual compatibility.


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[Assistant] So one thing of course we could look at how serious that other person is in Krishna Consciousness.


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[Assistant] So nowadays there is a lot of demonization of the idea that you should marry within your own caste or within your own religion or within your own nationality.


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[Assistant] But in the past, quite often these designations, whether your caste or your nationality or your religion,


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[Assistant] We could say, one is Krishna Consciousness is something which is a shared value and purpose.


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[Assistant] And you don't bother much about, about say aiming from the same ethnic background or something like that. That is secondary that can be worked out.


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[Assistant] I think we broadly discussed about the challenges and opportunities in Western Outreach.


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[Assistant] We talked about how Krishna House has started and you have got more than 300 devotees who have graduated and have become fixed. And we discussed broadly, I think, uh, two main challenges with respect to


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[Assistant] The presentation of Krishna Consciousness.


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[Assistant] Two western people. One was the gender roles and the other is the overall presentation of life and career. So, you talked about


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[Assistant] How there's a difference between, I'll just speak the points which struck me and I remember, and you could fill in if anything is there, right?


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[Assistant] So now, then artificially separating them creates, creates agitation. Whereas if they are together with the regulation,


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[Assistant] We are going back to Prabhupada as he presented Krishna Bhakti in the 1960s and we as a movement may have got


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[Assistant] In one country can actually not only not work but can obstruct in another country.


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[Assistant] So we also discussed about the history of our movement in the west, how western membership dropped and Indian membership became prominent.


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[Assistant] And so your, your understanding is that the broader culture and whatever changes and trends are there don't matter because there are a few souls who are going to be interested and if you just make it


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[Assistant] And, uh, we also discussed the, how the polarization can happen if the one side, the conservatives label what is done in the West as feminism and liberals label what is done in India as bodily conception. But, uh, it is, what was the traditional culture in India was a,


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[Assistant] As you said, you are quite appreciative of it, that it is a refined, it is a evolved culture, but it doesn't work in the West. And we discussed also the difference between feminism


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[Assistant] Uh, which is, which has become quite radical and toxic in the west in some ways, but it is just spiritually giving every soul the opportunity to serve Krishna in their particular way.


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[Assistant] Now that, uh, last part to discuss about the marriage and how that is an ongoing challenge and we are discovering the way. And you, you, you give people the resources to make the decisions and then how they take it is going to be evolved. We will see in the course of time. That's what it is. So do you have any important points?


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[Assistant] So thank you very much for your time and this very enriching discussion.


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[Assistant] We'll bring the coffee table over on Sunday. Thanks. Must go though. Bill will think I've run off and left him to do all the pay. See ya later. Bye bye love.


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[Assistant] She won't. You saw how apologetic she was yesterday.


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[Assistant] My dad didn't drive it probably 35 miles an hour. It was 300 miles to St. Louis.


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[Assistant] Tom Greenwood was really the only scout he talked with.


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[Assistant] When my dad died, he said, well, it might be a little rough, but we'll make it.


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[Assistant] God, this way for the Runaway Conwicks!


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[Assistant] Everybody had his righty and lefty batting stands down pat.


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[Assistant] The way he would reach behind his helmet and scoop off his batting helmet from the rear.


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[Assistant] And toss it to the Batboy. So elegant. Nobody could do it like the Mick.


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[Assistant] No it isn't, it's lovely. The river runs through it and in summer there are blue dragonflies.


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[Assistant] Do you think I don't see through poor dads swaggering and drinking and clinging for 25 years to a last war rank?


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[Assistant] He never felt at home anywhere, never felt comfortable anywhere after baseball because he was never in his element. He always felt like there were no strings attached. He treated himself like he was a free agent out there doing whatever he wanted to do.


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[Assistant] I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all Americans.


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[Assistant] If that fails, I know there's a bottle of bourbon in there. They might probably so, you're right. Narnia or bust. All week, all week, uh, pundits and politicians have been, you know, asking themselves, how did we get here?


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[Assistant] How, what, what is the moral GPS that led us to this cliff? Uhm, how did Trump win? Was this the revenge of the white working class voters? Was Hillary Clinton complacent on the campaign trail? Did we anger the volcano gods? I knew we should have thrown Taylor Swift in there. I said that, just, except her hand. Yea.


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[Assistant] It may be none of the above. A lot of people are blaming all the Facebook fake news that was pro-Trump and anti-Hillary. In fact, more fake news was shared on Facebook than real news. So where'd all the fake news come from?


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[Assistant] Okay, did you hear that, future time travelers? Now you know who to hunt last year. Now...


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[Assistant] Horner credits himself for such influential fake news items as the Amish in America commit their vote to Donald Trump mathematically guaranteeing him a presidential victory


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[Assistant] I don't know about everybody, but certain people definitely don't seem smart. For instance, did you hear about this fake, uh, news writer who bragged about electing Trump to the head of the country he still has to live in now? That guy is an idiot.


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[Assistant] I don't like some of the real headlines I'm seeing. Like this one. More than 400 incidents of hateful harassment and intimidation since the election. For instance, this one. In Indiana, where an Episcopal church was vandalized with a swastika and the words, I cannot believe this. I mean, it's 2016.


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[Assistant] Because this week, a neo-Nazi blogger declared New Balance the official shoes of white people.


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[Assistant] This all started. This all, yay, neck tattoo. This all started.


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[Assistant] After New Balance supported the election of Donald Trump, saying, People got so mad at New Balance for supporting Trump like this, they filmed themselves setting their shoes on fire.


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[Assistant] What else am I gonna wear when I'm waiting for my wife outside the Talbots?


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[Assistant] Guys who wear wedding rings, if you're shopping for one, uhm, sorry to put you on the spot, guys. If you are buying a ring, be sure to read all the safety instructions. Because this is true. This week, doctors removed a wedding ring from a man's penis.


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[Assistant] As for the man's treatment options, uh, doctors said no proper guidelines exist for the treatment of this condition, so the best method is the one with the successful outcome.


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[Assistant] United Airlines just announced they're offering a cheaper ticket option called Basic Economy. Not to be confused with the name of the book Donald Trump is frantically reading right now.


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[Assistant] Speaking of living a nightmare, uh, North Korea has long been ruled by supreme leader and burrito supreme douchebag Kim Jong Un.


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[Assistant] And recently, North Korean officials lodged a formal request with China to prohibit names disparaging Kim Jong Un, specifically the nickname Kim Fatty the Third.


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[Assistant] Which is why I'm going on record with an important public service announcement over on camera one.


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[Assistant] Hi, I'm Stephen Colbert. Sticks and stones may break their bones, but words can really hurt them. Hi, I'm still Steve Colbert.


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[Assistant] I'd like to take a moment right now to speak out against the epidemic of world leader bullying.


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[Assistant] No matter how accurate it is, it is cruel. So the next time you think of calling Kim Jong Un Kim Fatty the Third or the Cabbage Patch Dictator or Man Who Ate Both Kid and Play,


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[Assistant] You see my screen? Yes, uhm, looks fine. Okay.


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[Assistant] Most of going offline is relatively low, so, uh, most courses that I know are offline. So online.


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[Assistant] Having realized the ability of humans to defend themselves,


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[Assistant] The Martians return to their base camp in the sand pits.


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[Assistant] The Martians failed to kill everyone in Sheperton.


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[Assistant] Had they not troubled with their fallen companion and gone on toward London, they would have found it quite easy.


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[Assistant] The military had not yet gathered its units and guns.


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[Assistant] London would surely have been just as devastated as Lisbon 100 years ago after its earthquake.


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[Assistant] Now, however, the military was quickly pulling itself together and gaining strength.


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[Assistant] Guns were hidden within every neighborhood of every little village.


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[Assistant] Even among the ruins of previously destroyed areas, soldiers were in place waiting to signal their comrades for the next attack.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, the Martians were also gaining in strength and numbers.


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[Assistant] Every 24 hours, a new group of falling cylinders came crashing into Earth.


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[Assistant] As for the Martians in walking, they had moved all of their equipment from the other two camps to the sand pits and were working without stop to prepare for their next advance.


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[Assistant] I, in the meantime, struggled to make my way to London through the smoking ruins of Weybridge. I found a small boat floating in the river and jumped inside. It had no paddles, so I was forced to use my hands. Each time I stroked the water, a terrible pain ran through my burned body.


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[Assistant] The towns along the river were all burned to the ground.


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[Assistant] And the surrounding countryside was full of little fires here and there.


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[Assistant] Occasionally I could see the shadows of people running through the trees away from Weybridge. I had lost my shirt.


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[Assistant] And the sun was shining painfully down on my backside. I tried to rest for a moment.


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[Assistant] But fear took control again, and forced me to paddle some more.


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[Assistant] When I came to a bridge at Middlesex, I got out of the boat and started to walk.


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[Assistant] I must have slept because I remember opening my eyes and seeing a man standing nearby and looking up into the sky, which at the time was a beautiful blue and red sunset. I quickly got to my feet and addressed him. You haven't any water, have you? He did not.


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[Assistant] His rather big blue eyes look tired, almost hopeless.


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[Assistant] What is all of this, he asked, indicating the surrounding destruction. What have we done to deserve this? Who are they to take all of this away from us? But then again, who are we to have it, I responded.


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[Assistant] I was not really in the mood to start a deep conversation.


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[Assistant] But I could not help asking this not just of this man, but of myself as well. He remains silent for a moment.


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[Assistant] Everything we worked so hard for here in Weybridge is gone. Our church.


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[Assistant] The one we just rebuilt, gone in a matter of minutes. I did not know what to say to him.


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[Assistant] It was apparent now that he was an assistant to the local priest a curate.


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[Assistant] Has the earth been given to these horrible beings? I could see that he was starting to go mad.


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[Assistant] I tried to encourage him to pull himself together. We still have hope, I said. God is punishing us. That is what it is. He's punishing us for all of our sins. We were warned not to sin, but did that stop us? Not in the slightest. And now it is as clear as day. God has become tired of man and has decided to rid himself of them.


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[Assistant] Other places in the world have been destroyed by earthquakes and terrible storms.


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[Assistant] Is your town of Weybridge any different from those places?


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[Assistant] But I just saw one get killed earlier today. I saw it with my own two eyes. Now, over there in that direction, the Martians are at work.


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[Assistant] Far away, the sound of guns could be heard going off, along with a strange crying sound.


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[Assistant] It was a little similar to the cry of a siren that warns people of an approaching enemy. Let's get going I said. North is where we want to be.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we did an episode with Elliot Wilson years ago, man, and we were recording for the first time in our new studio.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Engine Room Audio, it was the very first time. Shout out to Samir Karan. This is his first time being our engineer. We sat down with Elliot for like two hours. And then afterwards we were like, where's the tape? And then Samir started like sweating. And then it was a question of whether he even pressed the record button.


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[Assistant] And we had such a good time the last time we were here on your show. So it was like, come on, another opportunity to do this shit.


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[Assistant] This episode of No Jumper is brought to you by Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer. The beer you drink when you're on fucking No Jumper. Let's go.


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[Assistant] Here, it curls a little bit more, and it, it hel- like a lot of Irish people would stand to benefit from copying the bevel man. I could see it. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I think out of anybody that came out last year, last year was like this big explosion in the podcast world, and out of anybody that came out, Dude was definitely the hottest.


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[Assistant] Rising Star, this dude was making seismic shifts in the podcast world.


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[Assistant] So it's unfortunate to see somebody as talented as him, somebody that has such a connection with his audience get caught up in some bullshit.


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[Assistant] Yeah man, that shit hurt man, and you know, shout out to Taxone, shout out to everybody who supported Taxone, shout out to his family, shout out also to Banger's family, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, shout out to everybody that got caught up in this whole whirlwind, whatever that shit was.


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[Assistant] Overheard so many cats in Brooklyn in the hood. I'll be walking past corner after corner cats are like, yo, you fuck with that tax stone shit. And I'd be like, y'all ever heard of combat jacket? Like, no. That shit was just brilliant, man. Like tax, tax really had a connection with like every street USA that, that I've never seen any other podcast.


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[Assistant] You know any other black podcasts to have in this medium.


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[Assistant] I mean, I hope so man, but you know, tax, somebody like tax is not, it's not a dime. I mean, you know, you can't find him. You know what I'm saying? It's like a, he doesn't come easy.


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[Assistant] Like I said, transformative man, and you know, so, shout out to Taxman.


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[Assistant] You don't really care about you. Exactly. So like, has your hunger for being, cause last time I was here, man, like you had this reputation for being such a wild boy.


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[Assistant] You know, you're ahead of the curve. I would never think that and I've been on, I've been in podcasting for seven years and I'll go someplace and I'll go someplace because I want to, but like recently, like in the past year or so, like I've become so low key.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying, like most of the high-key shit that you see me at is because of work, but like, the BET shit that's going on this week, and I don't want no parts of it, no offense to BET, but, like, we're out here in Cali, there's so much more to do than to be caught up in the BET. You see the same motherfuckers at every other event.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And it's like, kinda like what you're saying also, I might not have offended anybody, but mad, all of these wannabes want something.


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[Assistant] And being in a bigger spotlight now than I was in last year, it's like, I prefer my circle of friends. I prefer to move just real low-key, man. Like, I don't want to be out there if I don't have to be out there. Unless you give me a back.


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[Assistant] That it's not the big parties that I don't like to go to, it's like the old school hip parties, hip hop parties that I don't like to go to anymore. Really? Cause it's like the hip hop dudes man, like the guys that go to those shits seem like they have a chip on their fucking shoulder.


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[Assistant] Some cat came up on me and was like, yo, I heard what you allowed so-and-so to sing on your show seven years ago and I got a problem with that. I'm like, wait, you got a problem with something someone else said on my show seven years ago? Get the fuck out of it. Get a fucking job. Like get a real career right now. You know what I'm saying? It's like that old school shit, like the old, old,


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[Assistant] Cause he was on this one great record with a legend. Every time I see him, he's like, oh, you're not going to put me on the show. And he, you know, he bosses up, but I'm like, no, nobody, you got one record.


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[Assistant] You know what my record was back in 90- Nigga, I know what your record was back in 94. Fuck all that old school shit. What are you doing now?


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[Assistant] You, you finally set it up. Yo, we want to do this interview. And it, you know, these are the cats that were on top of the charts back in like 89, 90. I'm like, yo, I really want you on the shows.


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[Assistant] into this generation and in this media. I gotta pay you. So it's like this big disconnect with a lot of old school cats. And at this point in my life, I don't want to fuck with them. You know, disrespect the cats from my generation. I love y'all all. We came up. I think we're the greatest rap generation of all time, but I don't want to deal with your bullshit.


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[Assistant] But I still need somebody to look at shit from different angles. You know what I'm saying? Because at the same time, even though I think I'm wiser, even though I think I'm smarter, there are times when I make the same dumb ass stupid mistakes.


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[Assistant] And I just gotta get to the root of that, you know what I'm saying? Or if it's like fucking with the wrong people, like just things that you need fine-tuned in your life. So I don't go to therapy for like the deep, deep issues as much as like, yo, I just need some fine-tuning. Right. So I don't do, so that I don't go back to the fucked up ways that I was at before, man.


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[Assistant] I think everybody in this country, if you're in this country, black, white, Asian, Latino, you know, native, like, like we've all, like this country,


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[Assistant] So you're nine to five. I don't have a nine to five. I'm very blessed that I don't have a nine to five. But imagine living here and having it on a freeway.


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[Assistant] Or in New York, trying to get on the subway. And that pressure being in gridlock or when it's, you know, that pressure of trying to get to you, it's on a daily basis.


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[Assistant] I think it's really big for the culture in general. Thank you man. It was such an honor to do that man.


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[Assistant] And it only made sense. It only made sense. You know, I tend sometimes to, to, to, to not


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[Assistant] This is an opportunity in this medium that only I can fucking do right now. Like, of course there's gonna be other casts to come in, try to improvise, copycat the whole nine, but like, this project right here was for fucking me.


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[Assistant] And, and it was an honor, man. It was hard work and I knew, you know, what I loved about it is, you know, I get comfortable doing podcasts. I've been doing this shit for seven years. Like I love this shit. This shit is like playing in my backyard right now. But like after seven years, like you get comfortable.


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[Assistant] And doing this project was like the first thing I've done in a long time that pushed me.


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[Assistant] Beyond my comfort level. The shit that was tiring. That shit was like, that shit was a marathon. That shit was like, you know when you go three or four days without sleep?


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[Assistant] And then you gotta go the next day and you gotta perform and you gotta deliver. And you're like, I'm fucking tired. We did that shit for a year and a half.


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[Assistant] Six episodes in a bonus episode, but we have at least ten hours.


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[Assistant] You know, where was the proper opportunity? Because at the end of the day, and as you'll soon see, I think, loudspeakers is the shit, but at the same time, we're a mom and pop operation. We're not a fucking NPR. This American life, you know, we don't have all of these cats.


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[Assistant] You know, on deck to do all this research and producing and fact checking. We have fact checkers. Fact checkers.


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[Assistant] We couldn't tell him, like we had the best episode, like the best content of like Chris allegedly being kidnapped.


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[Assistant] His ex, and the dude wanted to make sure Chris was alright.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, there's a lot of different people from different facets, from different aspects of Chris's life. So somebody that might have known this about Chris in high school.


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[Assistant] Word? Can you talk about it? But like, you know, you know, you know, Gimlet, they're known for their, uhm, their breakout podcast on Startup.


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[Assistant] Exactly. So he comes from like that NPR, this American world, this American life world. And their whole thing is like, you know, it is, you know, I think for the most part we take this medium for granted because, you know, it's all about the conversation. But they're like, yo, we can't put some shit out there that's gonna...


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[Assistant] Leave us liable to a lawsuit. So if we say some shit happened and it didn't happen.


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[Assistant] Cuz you know there's a lot of motherfuckers that talk that shit anyway, they talk that caca. And then because, because, because Chris Lighty's not around, a lot of people got stories to say.


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[Assistant] You know, but there were stories that I felt were very authentic, that really just added more flavor to the shit, but it's one of those things when you're cooking a meal, is the shit too salty.


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[Assistant] So it's just acceptable to everybody, including the chefs that are making it.


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[Assistant] I mean, I knew it was an important story, but if you look at it, man, like, you know, um, styles, trends, you know, particularly in hip hop, you know,


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[Assistant] We're on this kinda like 20 year cycle. So shit that was hot 20 years ago.


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[Assistant] It's hot now. If you look at the styles, if you look at the fashion, you know what I'm saying, like my kids have high top phase and they're dressing the way we dressed 20, 25 years ago.


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[Assistant] And then when you hear the music, like a lot of kids right now, not only are they listening to like the 21 Savage and all these new cats, but you know, I find, like I find, like I do research with my kids. So my kids are definitely into like, you know, Travis Scott and the whole nine, but I hear them. I hear out of their headphones. I hear them listening to the Tribe Called Quest.


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[Assistant] I hear them listening to MF Doom, I hear them listening to DMX, and this is not me telling them, it's like them discovering shit, and it's like, okay, if kids are listening to A Tribe Called Quest,


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[Assistant] Let's talk about Chris Lighty, who was an extended member of, you know, the Native Tongues and who really helped put that whole collective together and who managed the Tribe Called Quest, you know what I'm saying? If y'all are big on Diddy's kids right now, let's talk about somebody who managed Diddy, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] So I found that the timing was right, because everybody wants to hear. Like, look at these shows that are out right now. These retro shows. I mean, it didn't do too well. But uhm, what's the show that just got cancelled?


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[Assistant] Yeah, the get down. I'm saying that was a great show. I mean, there was a reason why that show came out. If you look at the breaks on VH1, like there's this nostalgia right now that's going back to like the days like where we didn't have all this digital shit to archive our shit or the major publications. You know, we had the Source magazine, but there wasn't a lot into like


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[Assistant] Archiving that history. And now like 20, 30, 40 years later, it's like, yo, this is some important shit, like we wouldn't have Drake.


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[Assistant] If we didn't have Cool Herc. They would say, we wouldn't have Travis Scott if we didn't have Melly Mel. And we wouldn't have these cats if we didn't have these cats. This begat that. And I think kids of this generation, as much as they're forward looking, they're like,


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[Assistant] Yo, OG, what really went on back then? You know what I'm saying? Was the crack epidemic really that big? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, were you really wearing kazals? And what was the style? It was like dapper dan. Like, after, what's crazy is like,


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[Assistant] Back in the 80s, Dapper Dan was this tailor that made the most elaborate


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[Assistant] Costumes made out of like, you know, throw away Gucci or like Fendi or Louis Vuitton fabrics, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Yeah, and then now Gucci like, like Gucci and Louis Vuitton shut his business down at his prime back in the day because he was copping their shit and making it flyer. Now in 2017, Gucci's sitting down with him to talk about how he can help them revitalize their brand to an urban market.


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[Assistant] I'm saying, so it's like even major brands, even like the main institutions are like, wait a minute. We fucked up on really preserving the history of this culture.


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[Assistant] Let's do it now. And I feel like, like, like, like, like Chris Lighty and Mogul was a perfect way to do that.


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[Assistant] I talk a lot and when I'm on- Hey, we're podcasting.


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[Assistant] Can we figure out how we could get a, like a Rolexes from Ben Baller? Like we've given Ben Baller all of this goodwill. Yeaah. I just wanna, yo Ben, like you know how I fuck with you man. Can I get a green box my dude? You know, supposedly his- I want a green box.


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[Assistant] Can we do some like bartering? Can we do some like, some PR? Like dude, I mean you don't seem to have a flashy, like I'm not that flashy, but would you rock a Ben Baller? Can we get a Ben Baller podcast campaign?


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[Assistant] 105.7 is, is this, there's a couple of contemporary adult, hip hop contemporary.


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[Assistant] Hip-hop st- wait, what is it? Adult Contemporary Hip-Hop Stations in New York.


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[Assistant] Rock and roll has been culturally, uh, uh, appropriated. I'm saying we don't think about the Chuck Berries. We don't think about the true innovators.


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[Assistant] For the most part, when it was, you know, black music, it was seen as color music. Like there were times when


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[Assistant] Uhm, Stagger Lee, you know, Stagger Lee was one of the pioneers of rock and roll who was on my show. And he talks about the time where he just got arrested so many times when he would do these shows because the cops would come up to him and be like, yo, your shows are the only one where there's


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[Assistant] Blacks and whites dancing together, and that's not supposed to happen. They would shut his shit down because his music was so undeniable, but it would bring that crowd out.


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[Assistant] My fear is, even though we live in 2017, where we live in the information age, like, you can't, like, fake news, all this shit, like, at any given day, someone can tell you that Eminem is the greatest MC that ever lived.


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[Assistant] He's the king of hip-hop. And you'll have kids believing him.


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[Assistant] You know, like the, like the private schools that my sons go to, like my 15 year old is like, he's already in arguments with white kids that are telling him, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, Eminem is the greatest MC that ever lived. Right. So that's my biggest fear that, and listen,


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[Assistant] There is. I would imagine there is. And definitely Eminem deserves his spot in anybody's respective top five.


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[Assistant] Like Jay-Z is my greatest friend, but he doesn't, he can't come before Mel E Mel, he can't come before Grandmaster Kaz, he can't come before Rakim, like you know what I'm saying, so it's very important that we still, and that's part of what I do, that we still remain vigilant, because you know Adam, we live in an age where, at any certain point, you put some shit out and everybody fucking believes it.


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[Assistant] If it's a Time magazine or a CNN or a Rolling Stone, that did put out an article that said Eminem was the king of hip hop. It's like, shit is uncomfortable.


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[Assistant] And there was a time where Eminem was undeniably number one. You'd have to be a goddamn fool.


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[Assistant] Or bigot. You know what I'm saying? If you're a person of color and you didn't want to give it to Eminem, you were a bigot. You know what I'm saying? You were prejudiced.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there was definitely his time, like, but at the end of the day, am I gonna say, you know, I have my personal favorite, but it's kinda risky when you say Eminem was the greatest rapper of all time or Eminem was the king of hip hop.


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[Assistant] He receives accolades like a Pharaoh Monch could never receive.


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[Assistant] I mean, Eminem for, for, for, for, you know, for good or for worse. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, I'm not saying this is a good thing, but Eminem was the legitimate Elvis of hip hop. Elvis was amazing.


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[Assistant] Elvis was a, when you listen to, like there's a lot of people that want to discredit Elvis.


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[Assistant] I can't discredit Elvis because when you hear his voice, when you hear Elvis sing, Elvis had such a haunting voice, like Elvis' voice flows.


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[Assistant] So when you hear it, if you hear Elvis for the first time, you're like, this dude is the greatest. But if you've never heard the Chuck Barrys, if you've never heard the Stag Elise, it's got, you know what I'm saying? It's like, you can't make him number one if you don't know who's number one.


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[Assistant] But, but we live in an age, and I think we've always lived in an age with regard to the quote unquote majority, where if somebody's bigging up somebody of your, of your kind, it's very easy to be lazy.


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[Assistant] And not do the research and take that quote unquote fake news at face value.


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[Assistant] And recognition, that's the only guy I recognize. You know, I used to work at this food co-op in Brooklyn and I'm middle-aged and there was this white chick that was middle-aged and we were talking and she was like, this is when Eminem and Jay-Z were headlining at Yankee Stadium. And she's like, yo, I love Eminem.


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[Assistant] Like her demo, her channels, her social circles are not pushing Jay-Z at her the same way that they're pushing Eminem. So I could get that. I get it. I get it. Like I get that your ignorance is not of where Jay-Z fits in this hip hop shit. I get it.


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[Assistant] As great as Eminem is, he's not the greatest.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Who else is in the conversation? Absolutely. I mean, I mean no one else. Like I mean, like I would say like cadence wise cats that get like, like when I, when I listen to a Mac Miller.


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[Assistant] Mac Miller's not doing his shit. But Eminem, like when Eminem fucking loses his shit, when you look at that BET cipher from a couple of years ago, and it's Eminem, it's Black Thought, and it's Most Def.


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[Assistant] And this is Mos Def at the top, at the height of his game.


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[Assistant] It's Black Thought. It's Eminem. It's fucking most- you can't tell.


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[Assistant] School shooter anthem. And sort of like set in stone. And you know what? That song is brilliant because of that.


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[Assistant] As much as the Combat Jack show is a business, it's still my, it's still my favorite hobby.


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[Assistant] Pardon me, like the Combat Jack show fuels all of this opportunity that's coming my way.


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[Assistant] If I weren't, if I wasn't doing the combat jack show in 2016 or 2015, you wouldn't have mogul.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? And I think in this day and age where, you know, streams, revenue streams, opportunity streams are so, like, it's, it's, it's infinite.


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[Assistant] Like you can't, you can't forget the hustle that got you to the bag.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? And I think a lot of cats, like a lot of cats, like they have like their little podcasts and they make it big. It's like, I don't need to podcast anymore. And I think that's like a lot of people's biggest mistakes. And I'm not saying this about Rosenberg. I'm just saying like, for me, I could never, like, like this is, this is, you know what I'm saying? This is my religion.


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[Assistant] So if my religion brought me all of these benefits and these blessings, I can't ever turn my back on my religion that is podcasting with the Combatch Action. I mean, and, and, and, you know, don't get me wrong.


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[Assistant] 2016 was a rough year, because 2016 was a year where the market opened up. Where, you know, this is the first time where I really had to compete with other podcasts to get certain guests.


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[Assistant] And some podcasts weren't necessarily playing nice. It was just like, ahh. And at the same time I knew what I was doing with mogul. So there were times where I was bored.


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[Assistant] I'm being honest, I was bored, but at the same time it's because all my energies were being poured into this other thing, but I myself can't afford.


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[Assistant] To walk away from the combat, actually. But, but, but, but Rosenberg, like, Rosenberg doesn't owe this shit anything. Like, you know, from what I understand, the podcasting game for him was a...


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[Assistant] Was a vehicle for him to get on radio. Like him and Cypher came to Ebro. They kinda like auditioned for the position. Ebro was like, I don't know, but why don't you record something.


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[Assistant] Like a demo. And, and, and Peter was astute enough to know that there were podcasts. And so, you know, One Epstein started as a podcast.


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[Assistant] As an audition for their slot on, you know, on Hot 97.


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[Assistant] I had nothing else. Like I had done the music industry. I had done the blogging. I had done, you know, I'm an author. I worked in publishing. I worked in banking. Like you know what I'm saying? It was like, you know, this is the only shot that I got right now where I feel so passionate about. I don't know what the opportunities are, but I feel good doing this.


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[Assistant] And like, the Combat Jack Show was the first podcast that started doing Bevel.


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[Assistant] The 80s and the 90s where networking was a thing.


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[Assistant] It's like how people, I hate this word, let's unpack this shit. Unpacking shit sounds so fucking corny.


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[Assistant] Let's unpack this, like, let's grab these nuts, like, you know what I'm saying, let's network.


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[Assistant] Yeah, brand activation, but I find in 2017, like you said, man, the best form of networking is, uhm,


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[Assistant] On the podcast, it's through social networks, like through Twitter, like really, so it's like, it is like advanced networking.


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[Assistant] This benefits both of us. Let me ask you something. How do you deal with motherfuckers like, yo, can you teach me about bad casting? Like how do you deal with that shit? Cause like I get hit up at least 50 times a week with that shit and maybe out of the 50 times, maybe two times I'll take somebody under my wing and be like, do this, do that, blah, blah. But it's a lot of motherfuckers wanting some free game, man.


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[Assistant] I let, like, for every one that I fucking decline, I let the sixth one in.


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[Assistant] Getting out of the podcast. So you saved my life. So now you're helping me and now you're daddy.


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[Assistant] That's the one like, I mean, I'm gonna handle that shit, like I'm gonna establish some type, not a professional relationship maybe, but at least I want them to know that I heard you, you're good, I'm glad you, are you good, are you getting professional advice?


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, you don't know me. To hold me as this high, like, you know, to such high esteem. Right. That I shouldn't like some of the things that I would naturally like if I didn't have the show. Now don't judge me.


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[Assistant] Because of the value that I bring to your life, and if I do bring value to your life, I appreciate that. But don't judge me if in your narrow, limited view of what, like, standards are.


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[Assistant] I fall short of your shit. Don't crucify me for the same shit that you blessed me for. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] It's a whole different thing, man. Coke is a whole different thing, man. It's weird, like, you know, the 80s was a different time where that shit was more socially acceptable.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm in 2017 and it's like I'm in a different place in my life and it's like, it's around.


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[Assistant] Surround, but we're still in a weird way, man. Like, we're in this weird, like, you know, either we should legalize that shit.


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[Assistant] I mean we, like, alcohol is legal and I'm not comparing alcohol to coke. But alcohol kills more motherfuckers I think than coke.


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[Assistant] My life, my life has, my lifestyle has changed significantly.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the only thing I'm gonna get into, the only thing I will say is that I'm in the middle of a divorce.


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[Assistant] It's personal. I mean, even in the Combat Jack show, I'll share so much, but there were things, there were things that I feel that are too personal that I won't get into.


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[Assistant] I mean, if it was up to me, like if it was just me, if it was like if I was getting divorced from myself, I'd say everything.


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[Assistant] And I'm saying that I'm not necessarily the angel, I'm not necessarily the victim, it's just, it's very nuanced and it's like, you gotta hold on to some bit of yourself.


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[Assistant] You know, it's a tug and pull. You know what I'm saying? I've always been about, like, let me expose as much as I can about my life. But there's certain things, once again, that are private to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm not telling, I don't know these motherfuckers, there's a lot of weird motherfuckers on the internet. There's so many different ways that shit can get misinterpreted. You say one word.


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[Assistant] I say one word, like here we are talking about cocaine.


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[Assistant] Like the, like the, the, the, the, the chances of that becoming viral. You know what I'm saying? Multiply exponentially depending on whatever you said and how people can spin it.


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[Assistant] It's complicated. It's been a painful time. It's been a time of reawakening.


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[Assistant] And it's just, you know, new discovery, but at the same time, it's scary. Shit is scary.


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[Assistant] In life, you're always going to be dealing with something, right? But if you have that vibration where like, whatever I do, I'm going to be alright, that's also a way of life. Like that's been my way of life. Like I've fucked up immensely. I've walked away from a lot of money. I've walked away from a lot of opportunity.


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[Assistant] The music industry, a lot of people in my industry were like, yo, what the fuck is he doing? He's fucking up.


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[Assistant] What's wrong with that dude? Is he having a nervous breakdown? But to me it was like, I have a different path.


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[Assistant] Exactly, and I was one of those cast that was caught up in the tunnel vision that couldn't see outside of the music industry. When I got outside the music industry, I was like, yo, this shit, the music industry is such a small part of my life.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? But it's like, once again, it's like the nine of five-ers.


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[Assistant] Guys that have those nine to five jobs. To them, that's normal. To us, it's like, yo, you're fucking sheep.


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[Assistant] This is when Def Jam was the biggest label. What year? 1989.


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[Assistant] I mean yea, I mean, I worked at Def Jam in 1989. The biggest record I worked on at the time was third bass.


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[Assistant] That first album, uhm, I'm in the third bass video, uhm, Gasface. Okay. With uhm.


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[Assistant] No, check it out with uh, what's his name, with ZevLoveX who is now Doom. So I'm in the same fucking video with MFDoom.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? And then from there I went on to go into private practice. I represented this young cat who was like 19, 20 years old at the time his name was Damon Dash.


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[Assistant] And he was like, at the time when I came in, I was like the first like generation cat that understood hip hop. A lot of the cats that I worked with at the time came from like the R&B era, from the rock and roll era, from the rock era. They didn't know what the fuck hip hop was, but it was my thing.


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[Assistant] So I started working for this woman who was my mentor, Louise West, who had a lot of connections. And her, like one of her colleagues was like this big music dude. And his nephews.


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[Assistant] Damon and Darian were like breaking into hip hop. He's like, I don't know this shit. Do you know this shit? She's like, I don't know this shit, but Deloitte, that's working for me. It was this hip hop shit. So Damon was one of my first, like, earliest, like, personal clients. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I mean, we're talking about, I mean, you guys gotta use your Googles, it's like, uh, Glenn Jones, Jay-Z remix, Shy, like what year is that? King, what year is that? Shy, Glenn Jones, like, can you look it up? Like, no, 97.


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[Assistant] But I'm saying it was like early on, you know what I'm saying? And so, it's Damon when I'm seeing Damon developing himself as this fucking dude.


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[Assistant] Dame and then like my, my, my, my partner at the time, Ed Woods, he was a young lawyer.


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[Assistant] But he hung out with Diddy in college. So it was like this circle, this natural, this crew of cats.


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[Assistant] Like either chicks we fucked, or the music, or the clubs we went to, or the colleges we went to, and all of a sudden now all of us in the music industry.


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[Assistant] But the motherfucker that kept figuring that shit out, day one, day one ahead of all of us was Diddy.


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[Assistant] So Diddy was always like the north star. Diddy was like the dude that had it. And like- And why was that? He was just so smart? I think he was so smart. I think it's just his energy. He was very fortunate. I remember going into clubs early. Like, like 90.


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[Assistant] That nobody else had. Even back then I was like envious of that shit. Like yo, you're getting schooled by two of the biggest moguls in the music industry at the time.


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[Assistant] Before the, like the whole vegan thing, before the whole yoga thing.


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[Assistant] Hardcore Russell was still realizing that fitness had to be like smoking cocaine and running with the models, but he was like, yo, I finally got a treadmill. I'm doing this treadmill an hour a day. Nobody's got the endurance as me. So he's in this gym one day and Puff is like wants to fucking...


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[Assistant] He had an interview with the guy and he's like, yo, if you run this treadmill with me, as long as I can, I'll fuck with you. Not really saying that, but he's like, he wanted to test Diddy's endurance. So Diddy's there and fucking like, you know, street clothes running on a treadmill and he would not let Russell beat him.


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[Assistant] Cheyenne J? How, what year was Glenn Jones and J? It's the early days of the rock before Rockefeller, man.


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[Assistant] A-King remember, like, I'll be like, your A-King, who was that dude last night at the club with us? He'll be like, bong.


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[Assistant] And I'll be able to hit him on Instagram and be like, yo, good time last night, yo, I fuck with you, uhhhh. Acting like they're my best friend, but it's King that's really put me up on them.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, it's funny man, uhm, when I started this show, I definitely modeled it after


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[Assistant] Yeah, exactly. Or even going back to like Starbuck Wow. Or like, uhm, Ed and Dre.


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[Assistant] To the table, but like as time passed and I was like I really started developing my interview skill, which I really felt


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[Assistant] When I had premium Pete, Dallas pen. Just please.


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[Assistant] Uhm, A-King, uh, Matt Raz, and Ben Amin, like that, you, you couldn't, that was Avengers.


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[Assistant] It got to a point where it was like, does it make sense? Because I really want to take my career to the point where...


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[Assistant] My voice is definitive. And I felt that at times, man, where, you know, even in doing the interviews, like some of my co-hosts would take it in a different direction and completely take me off from like the shit that I worked for for like three, four, five hours to get to.


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[Assistant] Len Jones with Jay-Z was 92, so I've been working with Damon for like two years before that, so 90. Wow.


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[Assistant] That should kill me. That should kill me. And it got to a point where, you know, nothing against anyone because I wouldn't be here without anybody who's been on the show.


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[Assistant] But it got to a point where it felt sometimes that each, sometimes each interview was harder for me to get through because of the people that was on my team.


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[Assistant] Okay, internet, I just saw some crazy shit, like I just heard some scratching and some shit, and we're sitting in Adam's studio right now and there's like a couple of like storage bits, like storage closets and shit.


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[Assistant] Four days, like the past year I've been stressed out like some of the things that you brought up before about my personal life. I think I've developed either IBS or gastritis where


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, IBS, right? And then recently I just started experimenting with shit that I could eat or not eat and this past week I haven't eaten meat and my stomach has been a lot better.


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[Assistant] Still young. Still young. The older you get you don't give a fuck what guys think.


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[Assistant] Anywhere, in general. Everybody keeps telling me to halal guys, but no one takes me there. I haven't been there yet, man.


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[Assistant] No, but the crazy shit is when I travel to places like California, and I see LA guys, the New York Yankees cap on, I'm like,


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[Assistant] I live in a heavily, um, orthodox Jewish neighborhood.


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[Assistant] And they recently, uh, opened up this like yarmulke shop. Wow. Of the block for me.


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[Assistant] She's just trying to turn this back to a period that was not great.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry I'm chewing right now. I got a lot of, uh, uh, criticism for chewing on, um, brilliant idiots. I'm sorry. I do it all the time.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, like, can, can you explain? Andrew was so confrontational.


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[Assistant] And I don't understand that perspective. And I wanna know, is that a white thing?


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[Assistant] So you're not on the same page, like, Andrew, why are you saying that shit?


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[Assistant] Are you saying that because this is your true beliefs? When you want a platform to say it, even though you know it's not popular, but you know you're popular and this is the only place for you to say that shit.


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[Assistant] And I'm mad, like I'm mad cause I talked about like spirituality, I talked about


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[Assistant] What is true justice versus like our need for like what we perceive to be justice?


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[Assistant] One of the things I did not realize I should have asked him is like, is it justice if the rapist that's getting raped likes it?


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[Assistant] Like what if they like it, and then what, is that justice?


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[Assistant] That was my whole thing, it's like, not punish people, like, because then you kinda carry on the karma that they exacted, but he's like, yo, fuck it, I wanna see revenge.


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[Assistant] With this administration, because this administration, and this is no shots to like whatever your, you know, your, uhm, if you're Democrat or Republican, one of these parties never backs down.


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[Assistant] This is fucking war. But my other perspective is that in comedy, everything is just everything.


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[Assistant] Is acceptable. If your mom's had a stroke. If my mom's had a stroke.


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[Assistant] And you were talking, you were joking about my mom's having a stroke, a real life stroke, and it was funny. Then it's acceptable. You think? I think if it's funny, I mean, isn't that the rule, isn't that rule number one in comedy?


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[Assistant] It should be acceptable. A lot of these motherfuckers say a lot of questionable jokes that are not funny.


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[Assistant] Crosses the line, right now, like recently.


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[Assistant] Dave Chappelle in his, in his, in his, uh, Netflix specials crossed the line with regards to certain things that he said.


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[Assistant] And some of the things, I think some of the things that he recently got in trouble for was because it wasn't as funny as it was back in the day.


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[Assistant] I think less people have a problem. That's just me. Then I'm going on a cardinal rule that a lot of, uh, comics have, like, it's not controversial if it's funny.


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[Assistant] Thought provoking, I don't find him that funny. His role is to be thought provoking and to engage, uhm, dialogue, not to tell jokes.


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[Assistant] And this whole joke was like, what if you were, like, in the shadow of Bill Cosby? What if you were a superhero, like Spider-Man or Superman, but the only way your powers would activate is if you raped somebody?


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[Assistant] I don't know where you're going. I mean this is Dave Chappelle, but I don't know where you're going.


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[Assistant] But he went through with the joke and there's been some criticism about him in the newspapers.


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[Assistant] I'm on the side of the newspapers in that, like, in terms of the criticism because it was like, I see where you were going, but it wasn't that funny.


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[Assistant] That's when it becomes uncomfortable. It's like, what about the people that actually went through it? I think there's nothing funny about it.


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[Assistant] It was all about concentration camps in Nazi Germany.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm sure, I mean, you know, I know it's been tried before about like sitcoms that are based on slavery and the shit got shut down, but I think if it's delivered in the right way, I still think, I want to believe in our general spiritual sense of humor.


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[Assistant] I want to believe that we don't have to be locked down by somebody else's sensitivities.


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[Assistant] I think we have to be aware of it, I think we have to be em- em- emphatic about it, but at the same time it should not limit us from moving how we want to move if it brings values to us. If you're bringing laughter, it's bringing value.


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[Assistant] Let me tell you man, I just got into it, I just got into it with my lawyer. My divorce lawyer is this gay dude.


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[Assistant] Who was like into hip hop like crazy. Into it. Like he knows everything, like he's-


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[Assistant] Tuesday. But anyway, so, I was tweeting about


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[Assistant] Prodigy yesterday, and I was tweeting about the legacy, you know, um, rest in peace prodigy. And I was, I was tweeting about the legacy of Mobb Deep and how people forget that


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[Assistant] They went hard at Nas. They went hard at, when Snoop kicked down our building, they went hard at everybody.


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[Assistant] Mobb Deep was the only hip hop crew. This might, this might tweet, Mobb Deep was the only hip hop crew.


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[Assistant] That went after everybody when everybody thought New York went sweet.


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[Assistant] Is this like a slur? Like I'm like, no, but I kind of see where you're going, but no, he's like, well,


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[Assistant] I view it as a slur, and I was like, uh, uhm, so I didn't, alright, you know what? Just to fucking alleviate


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[Assistant] Discussion, I'm gonna apologize and be like, I see where you're coming from.


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[Assistant] Cause I, in no point in me tweeting, sweet, that I was implying that there was anything


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[Assistant] I still have to give him the benefit of doubt if he's looking at something from a different perspective.


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[Assistant] Where it was used as a homophobic slur, I might not be aware of it. So it's like, you know what, I'm not even going to argue with you, I'm just going to fall back.


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[Assistant] No, that's a big thing too man, like everything is shaming right now, everything is shaming. I remember doing this panel like four years ago, it was like all these like super impressive people on the panel, it was like Karen Civil, it was Rose Burger, it was me and it was like this super like uber like


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[Assistant] You know, like black bougie, like crowd, and I was like talking about this new wave of like hip hop, and I was like, yo man, like, we living in an age where it's the advent of, uh, retard rap.


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[Assistant] The whole crowd was like, there was not one person that laughed and I was like, yo, did I just fuck up?


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[Assistant] Well, I guess in a perfect world, we shouldn't call anybody idiot.


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[Assistant] Like everything that was corny to me, and this is what I had to explain to my attorney, everything that was corny to me, I used to be like, yo, that shit is gay.


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[Assistant] The only word, and we weren't talking, we were not talking about people from the LGBT


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[Assistant] And like, my kids, like, they fucking, like, you can't say something as gay.


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[Assistant] I was in the car with my kids the next day and I was like, yo, this fucking driver over here, he's fucking gay. And they were like, dad, you can't say that. I was like, what do you mean I can't? He's like, dad.


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[Assistant] You can't say that. And I realized, like, they were being instructed moving into, like, the next generation. And you can't say that. And I just like, you know what? I'm not gonna lose anything.


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[Assistant] When the times change, but sometimes you gotta be smart enough to say, you know what? I'll not say the R word.


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[Assistant] One of my favorite words is idiots. You're an idiot.


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[Assistant] I'm saying, when do we take away a word that you're not competent? So it's kind of like this sliding scale and I do agree with it, like my kids live in a better world than I grew up in.


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[Assistant] Doing all the most politically incorrect shit, but we're crucifying everybody else? Yeah. This motherfucker has his fucking hands on the button. This motherfucker's about to kill all these people with lack of healthcare.


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[Assistant] But at the same time, you can't fight forces like that and still be confined by...


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[Assistant] Political correctness. You know what I'm saying? Like he's talking about Bannon, his son Bannon, was all upset by Kath- Kath- Kathy Greer, fuck y'all.


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[Assistant] This is the first person that I really never met in my life that I really truly find detestable. I never want to say that we should advocate, you know, somebody assassinating


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[Assistant] I had a state or something like this, but I do pray sometimes for the day when he gets like a nice hot case of like, anal cancer.


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[Assistant] Let him, like every time he takes a shit, he's shitting out half of his intestine tissues.


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[Assistant] That hurts, but I'd rather him shit his shit out. I'd rather him shit himself out a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeah, him I wish he, he contracted like the worst form of like anal cancer. Like slowly hot.


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[Assistant] Bannon is offensive. There's a lot of people in media that's offensive. But this dude that represents so much, like when you read, when you read,


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[Assistant] And they burned her. Her memorial after the fact. And they fucked up her memorial. And this is all precipitated because of this dude's mood.


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[Assistant] When this dude, everything he does, like when he jokes about the mentally challenged or everything like that and somebody dies.


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[Assistant] Behind that, and there's no accountability. Like this motherfucker has caused more harm in such a short period of time than a lot of people.


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[Assistant] Say, fuck that, we all know America's raci- is a racist, but this guy is tapped into that. Motherfuckers are fucking fucking people up. Yeah, I wish he dies a slow death of anal cancer. Hot.


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[Assistant] I'm saying these motherfuckers pay attention. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm on some watch list.


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[Assistant] But at the end of the day, you know, for the few things that I do believe in, I do believe in, in this country, the principle of free speech.


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[Assistant] And we live in a time where our only weapon, we can't, we can't fight these forces. We can't grab guns. We can't, you know, pop off. We can speak about it. We live in an information age. So if we can't talk about this fucking yellow haired retard, like what the fuck else can we do?


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[Assistant] He's fucking mentally challenged and we're going along with it, like giving this motherfucker a chance, like we give little Joey Camp fucking right with the orange crayons a chance.


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[Assistant] Like every, like I know people with shit emoji speakers and shit like that. They love their shit emojis. Nobody loves this piece of shit.


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[Assistant] It's a scary time man, because it's the first time in my life where I'm feeling actually kind of hopeless.


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[Assistant] Because he's unleashed such a sentiment. And it's like, okay, like...


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[Assistant] We had a lot of work to do, wait, wait, wait, we got a lot more work to do. It's not just waiting for the racist to die, it's like really getting into the root, like digging into, like breaking the foundation.


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[Assistant] Of this racist foundation, you know what I mean? This racist structure, like going into like, prison system in the war on crime, and just even how perception like,


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[Assistant] Why is it that black men scare people? That's a whole lot deeper.


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[Assistant] And there's these people dying, it's work that needs to be done, like I think black people need a new global PR campaign.


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[Assistant] That's been perpetuated over like, since birth of a nation.


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[Assistant] So that's the first Hollywood blockbuster and so we don't understand how like Hollywood helps to perpetuate these images. We don't understand like, you know, I might be helping like this young black woman to open the door, old black woman to open the door and she sees me but because of these images she's scared of me.


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[Assistant] So this is the world that we live in right now. So it's a lot of, it's the work that I see that we have to do is a lot more than I anticipated, but we have to do. So it's a little depressing, man.


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[Assistant] It's a little depressing, like I said, this story about this young, uhm, Muslim girl.


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[Assistant] That, that shit kills me. You know what I'm saying? Like every day we hear about these polices, like police officers skating more and more.


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[Assistant] About, you know, unlawful killings and it's becoming the norm.


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[Assistant] It's the norm. It's no longer, oh my god, what if we had bodycams? We have them. And it's like, fuck you.


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[Assistant] So to me, I've taken a blow spiritually in terms of like how to handle that shit. Because I used to be a lot more hopeful.


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[Assistant] I mean dude, what Obama's presidency has shown me is that it's a tough job, it's still a specific type of job.


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[Assistant] Like, if you come in there talking about like, free healthcare for everyone, you're gonna fucking die.


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[Assistant] He had to. You know what I'm saying? We had to take out, what's his name? Bin Laden.


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[Assistant] You can't come in and not play to play, but play about those rules. So it's like one of those things, man.


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[Assistant] Where there's presidents that could do the jobs, the job better. They could be a lot more, uhm,


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[Assistant] Dignified, but it's still a certain, you still gotta kill people.


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[Assistant] You still gotta effectuate those drones. You still gotta invade, like, foreign countries and make sure that they're playing by the rules of, like, American imperialism. So that's scary in itself.


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[Assistant] Donald Trump was getting some weekly head in the White House. He would be so mad.


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[Assistant] I mean, but then you have all these women out here that are lost to it. You have all these women that are willing to give it up to Trump, so I won't give it past that, but it sounds like a true life, like a head given with love.


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[Assistant] Did you go there? Hell no. Did you ever meet her brothers?


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[Assistant] I know about Squirtle. Wow, okay, good. And I've also named something that happens in our daily lives, I call it Squirtle.


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[Assistant] Like you're good, like dude, like you're good, like- You're squirtle. You're moving and shit, like you got a meeting, you're like, yeah, let me take this leak. Go take a leak.


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[Assistant] There's no God. That King that ever happen to you? The squirrel never hit your sock? Mena?


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[Assistant] They are the only motherfuckers on this planet, in this country that are not the pussies.


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[Assistant] What about this whole, uh, Meek Mill and, uh, safari shit, man? Did you see that?


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[Assistant] You're getting jumped. Meek jumped out the car. There was all these muscle bound dudes that jumped out.


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[Assistant] When I saw that shit, that shit, I was like, it's not funny. That's some ho-ass shit. Cause you could eat, you know, getting punched like that, you could die. Something really bad could happen. How do you get points? Sucker punching somebody. That's what I'm saying.


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[Assistant] Dude, how are two dudes fighting over an ex? When is that cool?


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[Assistant] Like, Nikki's supposedly dating, like, Nas right now. How's that cool, like, safari and meek fighting? Like, how's that hot?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm running. You jump at me like, yo, can I get a drop? I'm running.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I like little people. I was watching little people for the first time in your studio, man.


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[Assistant] On either side of a blazing fire in our sitting room in Baker Street.


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[Assistant] Since the tragic upshot of our visit to Devonshire,


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[Assistant] He had been engaged in two affairs of the utmost importance.


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[Assistant] In the first of which he had exposed the atrocious conduct of Colonel Upward.


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[Assistant] In connection with the famous card scandal of the non-parallel club.


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[Assistant] While in the second he had defended the unfortunate Madame Monpensier from the charge of murder which hung over her,


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[Assistant] In connection with the death of her stepdaughter, Mademoiselle Carrère,


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[Assistant] The young lady who, as it will be remembered, was found, six months later, alive and married in New York.


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[Assistant] My friend was in excellent spirits over the success which had attended a succession of difficult and important cases.


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[Assistant] For I was aware that he would never permit cases to overlap.


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[Assistant] And that his clear and logical mind would not be drawn from its present work to dwell upon memories of the past.


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[Assistant] Sir Henry and Doctor Mortimer were, however, in London, on their way to that long voyage which had been recommended for the restoration of his shattered nerves. They had called upon us that very afternoon.


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[Assistant] So that it was natural that the subject should come up for discussion.


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[Assistant] The whole course of events," said Holmes, from the point of view of the man who called himself Stapleton, was simple and direct, although to us, who had no means in the beginning of knowing the motives of his actions, and could only learn part of the facts, it all appeared exceedingly complex.


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[Assistant] I have had the advantage of two conversations with Mrs Stapleton.


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[Assistant] And the case has now been so entirely cleared up that I am not aware that there is anything which has remained a secret to us.


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[Assistant] You will find a few notes upon the matter under the heading B in my indexed list of cases.


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[Assistant] Perhaps you would kindly give me a sketch of the course of events from memory? Certainly.


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[Assistant] Though I cannot guarantee that I carry all the facts in my mind.


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[Assistant] Intense mental concentration as a curious way of blotting out what has passed.


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[Assistant] The barrister, who has his case at his fingers' ends and is able to argue with an expert upon his own subject, finds that a week or two of the courts will drive it all out of his head once more.


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[Assistant] So each of my cases displaces the last and Mademoiselle Carrère has blurred my recollection of Baskerville Hall.


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[Assistant] Tomorrow some other little problem may be submitted to my notice, which will in turn dispossess the fair French lady and the infamous Upward.


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[Assistant] So far as the case of the Hound goes, however, I will give you the course of events as nearly as I can, and you will suggest anything which I may have forgotten.


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[Assistant] My inquiries show beyond all question that the family portrait did not lie and that this fellow was indeed a Baskerville.


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[Assistant] He was a son of that Roger Baskerville, the younger brother of Sir Charles, who fled with a sinister reputation to South America, where he was said to have died unmarried.


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[Assistant] And having purloined a considerable sum of public money, he changed his name to Vandeleur and fled to England, where he established a school in the east of Yorkshire.


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[Assistant] His reason for attempting this special line of business was that he had struck up an acquaintance with a consumptive tutor upon the voyage home, and that he had used this man's ability to make the undertaking a success.


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[Assistant] Freezer, the tutor, died, however, and the school, which had begun well, sank from disrepute into infamy.


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[Assistant] The Vandeleurs found it convenient to change their name to Stapleton, and he brought the remains of his fortune, his schemes for the future, and his taste for entomology to the south of England.


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[Assistant] I learned at the British Museum that he was a recognised authority upon the subject, and that the name of Vandeleur has been permanently attached to a certain moth which he had in his Yorkshire days been the first to describe.


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[Assistant] We now come to that portion of his life which has proved to be of such intense interest to us.


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[Assistant] The fellow had evidently made inquiry and found that only two lives intervened between him and a valuable estate.


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[Assistant] When he went to Devonshire, his plans were I believe exceedingly hazy.


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[Assistant] But that he meant mischief from the first is evident from the way in which he took his wife with him in the character of his sister.


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[Assistant] The idea of using her as a decoy was clearly already in his mind, though he may not have been certain how the details of his plot were to be arranged.


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[Assistant] He meant in the end to have the estate, and he was ready to use any tool or run any risk for that end.


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[Assistant] His first act was to establish himself as near to his ancestral home as he could.


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[Assistant] And his second was to cultivate a friendship with Sir Charles Baskerville and with the neighbours.


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[Assistant] The baronet himself told him about the family hound and so prepared the way for his own death.


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[Assistant] Stapleton, as I will continue to call him, knew that the old man's heart was weak, and that a shock would kill him. So much he had learned from Dr. Mortimer.


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[Assistant] He had heard also that Sir Charles was superstitious, and had taken this grim legend very seriously.


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[Assistant] His ingenious mind instantly suggested a way by which the baronet could be done to death.


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[Assistant] And yet it would be hardly possible to bring home the guilt to the real murderer.


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[Assistant] Having conceived the idea he proceeded to carry it out with considerable finesse.


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[Assistant] An ordinary schemer would have been content to work with a savage hound.


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[Assistant] The use of artificial means to make the creature diabolical was a flash of genius upon his part.


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[Assistant] The dog he bought in London from Ross and Mangles, the dealers in Fulham Road.


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[Assistant] It was the strongest and most savage in their possession.


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[Assistant] He had already, on his insect hunts, learned to penetrate the Grimpen Mire, and so had found a safe hiding-place for the creature. Here he kenneled it and waited his chance. But it was some time coming. The old gentleman could not be decoyed outside of his grounds at night.


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[Assistant] Several times Stapleton lurked about with his hound, but without a veil.


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[Assistant] It was during these fruitless quests that he, or rather his ally, was seen by peasants and that the legend of the demon dog received a new confirmation.


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[Assistant] He had hoped that his wife might lure Sir Charles to his ruin, but here she proved unexpectedly independent.


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[Assistant] She would not endeavour to entangle the old man in a sentimental attachment, which might deliver him over to his enemy.


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[Assistant] Threats and even, I am sorry to say, blows refused to move her. She would have nothing to do with it, and for a time Stapleton was at a deadlock.


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[Assistant] He found a way out of his difficulties through the chance that Sir Charles, who had conceived a friendship for him, made him the minister of his charity in the case of this unfortunate woman, Mrs. Laura Lyons.


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[Assistant] By representing himself as a single man he acquired complete influence over her, and he gave her to understand that in the event of her obtaining a divorce from her husband he would marry her.


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[Assistant] His plans were suddenly brought to a head by his knowledge that Sir Charles was about to leave the hall on the advice of Dr. Mortimer, with whose opinion he himself pretended to coincide.


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[Assistant] He must act at once or his victim might get beyond his power. He therefore put pressure upon Mrs. Lyons to write this letter, imploring the old man to give her an interview on the evening before his departure for London.


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[Assistant] He then by a specious argument prevented her from going, and so had the chance for which he had waited.


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[Assistant] Driving back in the evening from Coombe Tracy, he was in time to get his hound, to treat it with his infernal paint.


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[Assistant] And to bring the beast round to the gate, at which he had reason to expect, that he would find the old gentleman waiting.


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[Assistant] The dog, incited by its master, sprang over the wicked gate and pursued the unfortunate baronet who fled screaming down the yew alley.


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[Assistant] In that gloomy tunnel it must indeed have been a dreadful sight to see that huge black creature with its flaming jaws and blazing eyes bounding after its victim.


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[Assistant] He fell dead at the end of the alley from heart disease and terror.


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[Assistant] The hound had kept upon the grassy border while the baronet had run down the path, so that no track but the man's was visible.


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[Assistant] On seeing him lying still, the creature had probably approached to sniff at him, but finding him dead had turned away again.


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[Assistant] It was then that it left the print, which was actually observed by Dr Mortimer.


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[Assistant] The hound was called off and hurried away to its lair in the Grimpen Mire, and a mystery was left which puzzled the authorities, alarmed the countryside, and finally brought the case within the scope of our observation. So much for the death of Sir Charles Baskerville. You perceive the devilish cunning of it.


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[Assistant] For really it would be almost impossible to make a case against the real murderer.


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[Assistant] His only accomplice was one who could never give him away.


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[Assistant] And the grotesque, inconceivable nature of the device only served to make it more effective.


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[Assistant] Both of the women concerned in the case, Mrs Stapleton and Mrs Laura Lyons, were left with a strong suspicion against Stapleton.


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[Assistant] Mrs. Stapleton knew that he had designs upon the old man, and also of the existence of the Hound.


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[Assistant] Mrs. Lyons knew neither of these things, but had been impressed by the death occurring at the time of an uncancelled appointment which was only known to him.


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[Assistant] However, both of them were under his influence, and he had nothing to fear from them.


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[Assistant] The first half of his task was successfully accomplished, but the more difficult still remained.


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[Assistant] It is possible that Stapleton did not know of the existence of an air in Canada.


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[Assistant] In any case, he would very soon learn it from his friend Dr Mortimer.


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[Assistant] And he was told by the latter all details about the arrival of Henry Baskerville.


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[Assistant] Stapleton's first idea was that this young stranger from Canada might possibly be done to death in London without coming down to Devonshire at all.


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[Assistant] He distrusted his wife ever since she had refused to help him in laying a trap for the old man, and he dared not leave her long out of his sight for fear he should lose his influence over her. It was for this reason that he took her to London with him.


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[Assistant] They lodged, I find, at the Mexborough Private Hotel in Craven Street, which was actually one of those called upon by my agent in search of evidence.


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[Assistant] Here he kept his wife imprisoned in her room while he, disguised in a beard, followed Dr. Mortimer to Baker Street, and afterwards to the station and to the Northumberland Hotel.


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[Assistant] His wife had some inkling of his plans, but she had such a fear of her husband, a fear founded upon brutal ill-treatment, that she dare not write to warn the man whom she knew to be in danger.


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[Assistant] If the letter should fall into Stapleton's hands her own life would not be safe.


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[Assistant] Eventually, as we know, she adopted the expedient of cutting out the words which would form the message, and addressing the letter in a disguised hand.


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[Assistant] It reached the baronet and gave him the first warning of his danger.


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[Assistant] It was very essential for Stapleton to get some article of Sir Henry's attire so that, in case he was driven to use the dog, he might always have the means of setting him upon his track.


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[Assistant] With characteristic promptness and audacity he set about this at once, and we cannot doubt that the boots or chambermaid of the hotel was well bribed to help him in his design.


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[Assistant] By chance, however, the first boot which was procured for him was a new one, and therefore useless for his purpose. He then had it returned and obtained another, a most instructive incident, since it proved conclusively to my mind that we were dealing with a real hound.


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[Assistant] As no other supposition could explain this anxiety to obtain an old boot and this indifference to a new one.


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[Assistant] The more outray and grotesque an incident is, the more carefully it deserves to be examined.


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[Assistant] And the very point which appears to complicate a case is, when duly considered and scientifically handled, the one which is most likely to elucidate it.


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[Assistant] Then we had the visit from our friends next morning, shadowed always by Stapleton in the cab.


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[Assistant] From his knowledge of our rooms and of my appearance as well as from his general conduct, I'm inclined to think that Stapleton's career of crime has been by no means limited to this single Baskerville affair.


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[Assistant] It is suggestive that during the last three years there have been four considerable burglaries in the West Country, for none of which was any criminal ever arrested.


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[Assistant] We had an example of his readiness of resource that morning, when he got away from us so successfully.


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[Assistant] And also of his audacity in sending back my own name to me through the capman.


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[Assistant] You have no doubt described the sequence of events correctly, but there is one point which you have left unexplained.


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[Assistant] What became of the Hound when its master was in London?


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[Assistant] I have given some attention to this matter and it is undoubtedly of importance. There can be no question that Stapleton had a confident


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[Assistant] Though it is unlikely that he ever placed himself in his power by sharing all his plans with him.


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[Assistant] There was an old man servant at Mary Pit House, whose name was Anthony. His connection with the Stapletons can be traced for several years, as far back as the schoolmastering days, so that he must have been aware that his master and mistress were really husband and wife.


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[Assistant] This man has disappeared and has escaped from the country.


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[Assistant] It is suggestive that Antony is not a common name in England, while Antonio is so in all Spanish or Spanish-American countries. The man, like Mrs. Stapleton herself, spoke good English, but with a curious, lisping accent.


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[Assistant] I have myself seen this old man cross the Grimpen Mire by the path which Stapleton has marked out.


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[Assistant] It is very probable, therefore, that in the absence of his master it was he who cared for the hound.


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[Assistant] Though he may never have known the purpose for which the beast was used.


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[Assistant] The Stapletons then went down to Devonshire, whither they were soon followed by Sir Henry and you.


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[Assistant] One word now as to how I stood myself at that time.


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[Assistant] It may possibly recur to your memory that when I examined the paper upon which the printed words were fastened, I made a close inspection for the watermark.


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[Assistant] In doing so I held it within a few inches of my eyes and was conscious of a faint smell of the scent known as white jessamine.


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[Assistant] There are seventy-five perfumes which it is very necessary that a criminal expert should be able to distinguish from each other, and cases of more than once within my own experience depended upon their prompt recognition.


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[Assistant] The scent suggested the presence of a lady, and already my thought began to turn towards the Stapletons.


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[Assistant] Thus I had made certain of the hound and had guessed at the criminal before ever we went to the West Country. It was my game to watch Stapleton.


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[Assistant] It was evident, however, that I could not do this if I were with you, since he would be keenly on his guard.


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[Assistant] I deceived everybody, therefore, yourself included, and I came down secretly when I was supposed to be in London. My hardships were not so great as you imagine.


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[Assistant] Though such trifling details must never interfere with the investigation of a case.


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[Assistant] I stayed for the most part at Coombe Tracey and only used the hut upon the moor when it was necessary to be near the scene of action.


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[Assistant] Cartwright had come down with me, and in his disguise as a country boy he was of great assistance to me. I was dependent upon him for food and clean linen.


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[Assistant] When I was watching Stapleton Cartwright was frequently watching you, so that I was able to keep my hand upon all the strings.


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[Assistant] I have already told you that you, that your, that your, that your report's reached me rapidly, instantly from Baker Street to Coombe Tracy. They were of great service to me.


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[Assistant] And especially that one incidentally truthful piece of biography of Stapleton's, I was able to establish the identity of the man and the woman, and knew at last exactly how I stood.


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[Assistant] The case had been considerably complicated through the incident of the escaped convict and the relations between him and the Barrymores.


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[Assistant] This also you cleared up in a very effective way, though I had already come to the same conclusions from my own observations.


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[Assistant] By the time that you discovered me upon the moor, I had a complete knowledge of the whole business, but I had not a case which could go to a jury.


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[Assistant] Even Stapleton's attempt upon Sir Henry that night, which ended in the death of the unfortunate convict, did not help us much in proving murder against our man.


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[Assistant] There seemed to be no alternative but to catch him red-handed.


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[Assistant] We did so, and at the cost of a severe shock to our client, we succeeded in completing our case and driving Stapleton to his destruction.


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[Assistant] That Sir Henry should have been exposed to this is, I must confess, a reproach to my management of the case.


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[Assistant] But we had no means of foreseeing the terrible and paralyzing spectacle which the beast presented.


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[Assistant] Nor could we predict the fog, which enabled him to burst upon us at such short notice.


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[Assistant] We succeeded in our object at a cost which both the specialist and Dr. Mortimer assure me will be a temporary one.


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[Assistant] A long journey may enable our friend to recover not only from his shattered nerves, but also from his wounded feelings. His love for the lady was deep and sincere.


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[Assistant] And to him the saddest part of all this black business was that he should have been deceived by her.


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[Assistant] It only remains to indicate the part which she had played throughout.