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[Assistant] I said, listen, it's going to be hard to make excuses. Joe Flacco came in here. I was the Flacco Valley guy. Listen, I'm, I'm fair where it come. He got to hit the track. He got to hit the ground running next year. However, I will say, I will say that it,


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[Assistant] You know, Wheaton played more games, uh, uh, Brian Hoyer played more games. You even have, obviously Baker played more games. None of those guys had the expectations. But here's the thing, if you want to give it to Baker, and I'm not comparing the two, Baker was the first overall pick. If you're the first overall pick, you gotta be a franchise quarterback.


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[Assistant] It just seems like, you know, the Bills always drafted defensive guys. Uhm, you got Stefan Diggs. If I had Josh Allen, I would overdo it. I would say, okay, well look, Josh is gonna be our guy. He's gonna want to throw the ball downfield. It just seems like,


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[Assistant] It was almost like maybe Dorsey wanted another piece. If he wants to throw the ball downfield, me need another part. Can we go get another guy to go besides Stephon Diggs? And you look at it, I don't think two is that great of a quarterback, but when you have Waddle and Tyreek Hill,


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[Assistant] It puts you in a level where you can do certain things. Do you guys, did you ever have a problem with the offense and say, well, listen, do we need more with this? Is this going to be enough to get over the hump?


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[Assistant] If you want to throw vertical routes, uhm, and, and that's what you want to do. If they're going to bring him in, that's, I'm fine with it, but you can't have, you can't have mixed bags of, of


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[Assistant] Uh, ways we're gonna do it. It gotta be all one way. If you wanna throw the ball downfield, we fine with that. You just gotta be good at throwing the ball downfield. And to do that, you gotta have receivers. I always look at the, what's the name, I always look at the, the bills and


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[Assistant] It's malpractice. If you got a franchise quarterback, you know what I would be doing? I would have, I would have three of the best receivers you've seen. And that's how you got to win. Like what Miami's done.


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[Assistant] You know what it's like, man. This be cracking me up, man. Listen, you ever get to a point where, you know, I was looking for a house at one point in time. You live in a department. You go to somebody else's house, you be like, dang man, this house is nice. They got a basement. This is crazy, man. They showing you all the new stuff they got. Then you come up, six months later, you're like, man, listen, I'm looking for my first house.


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[Assistant] You show her the picture and then they tell you, oh you don't need all that.


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[Assistant] What you need that deck for back there, boy? Why you drive away so long? And you don't even need five bedrooms, you need three. My question is, it's easy for dudes running around here with these good ass receivers telling me David Bell is good enough. No, no, no, no, no. I like water. Who's saying David Bell's good enough? I'm just bringing it up.


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[Assistant] You know. Hey chat, hey chat, uh, don't you tell me about no Cedric Tillman. You gotta stop that. I don't like him when he drafted him. Yeah, that's malpractice. Get that out of here. I'm gonna tell you right now, chat. Listen, I'm okay with


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[Assistant] You know, you know, Chris, man, when I go back and look at those Indians teams,


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[Assistant] For me, and a lot of people, you know, there was other guys like Ramirez, there was other guys like Tommy and Lofton, but for me, it was Albert Bell. I mean, Albert Bell, he bought a whole, he, in the African American community,


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[Assistant] Baseball had been waning. And when we saw Albert Bell in the way he played, he played the baseball like it was a physical game. Like he was the first dude to interject physicality and intimidation. To me, he was the start of the renaissance in Cleveland. And I mean, that guy was just, it was, it was tremendous.


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[Assistant] Shout out to Chris Rose, my defense attorney. I need you, bro.


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[Assistant] When you, when you critically, you know, go at somebody and you attack them as hard as I attacked, uh, Jared Allen, you do that in public, you gotta give them their flowers in public.


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[Assistant] He came back, he did his thing. He's been rebounding the basketball, he's touching the ball more. He, he, he, he's been, he, he's stepped his game up.


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[Assistant] And he's been one of the catalysts for this new change in how they go about playing basketball. He's been more aggressive under the basket. Look at that. 65% field goal percentage. He's dunking everything by the rim. And so Jared Allen, I'm going to tell you what.


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[Assistant] Shout out to you, because I don't know if you heard us, after you said that statement, it made a bit of Bryce's a little too light. I can't believe you said that. You came back and said, you know what, let me put this work in. You ain't say nothing, you just put the work in, and I believe right now,


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[Assistant] He's playing like one of the best centers in the league. Look what he did against the, against the Clippers. Look what he did against Giannis. He holds his own in getting his 20 and 10. Uh, uh, and I think right now, uhm, he's definitely should be a guy that should be, uh, you know, in the all-star game.


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[Assistant] So I would put him in. McNuggets, where is Jared Allen in the plus and minus as far as defenses go? Like, cause I'm trying to cook up a defensive angle. On face value, I want to say Jared Allen is a better defender than all those guys you mentioned. You talk about that. You talk about badmattabioz. Yeah, badmattabioz.


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[Assistant] There was one knock on Darius Garland. Mikey, you could say he's a guard. Sometimes you play guard. Look.


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[Assistant] Sometimes guard get infatuated with dribbling the ball all over, he dribbling all under the basket, turning around, dribbling some more, and then he looking for a high hand off lob. That ain't how we been playing.


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[Assistant] Hopefully they showed him them game tapes, like, hey, you see that corner, go stand over there and wait to get this ball and be a knock down shooter. He's going to have to switch something up. He dribbled too much to be in his offense. And that don't mean he can't if he gets a


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[Assistant] You know what you do? You pull out this phone and you tell them, listen, hey, they'll be like, who is this? Oh, that's Colin Sexton.


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[Assistant] People seek to be liked, liked in life. And if you are doing something and it's not successful, you sit there and you're like, man, I want to do well. So I'm not going to do that because people like, like, no, I'm not going to do that.


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[Assistant] It's the conviction, boy. I compare it to dieting, right? When you diet and you lose a couple of pounds and somebody come up to you and say, hey man, you look like you're working out.


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[Assistant] This is G Bush's, uh, our executive producer. I won all the big wigs in one house. It's a reality TV show. I got Jay, I got, uh, I got Bull, I got Dustin Fox, I got, uh, Nick, I got all of them. Aaron Goldhammer, everybody. We, we, Andre Knot, come on out of retirement. Everybody can do anything.


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[Assistant] And it's a competition, y'all gotta write monologues, y'all gotta see who can read the news better, who has the best opinion, y'all gotta debate back and forth, and y'all gonna stay in the house for two weeks, Jay. You gotta show up. If you and Tony Rizzo, I need you and Rizzo, one on one, and I'm the Don King of this,


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[Assistant] I think in a perfect world, you extend him one year through next season, for his age his third, or through the 2025 season.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I think he probably would want a longer term if he's gonna do that. Yeah, that's why I'm saying in a perfect world, I don't want to go three, four years with him.


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[Assistant] You'd have to go three, at least. I would do it if I could get out of the last year of the contract. Right. You know, the problem is...


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[Assistant] He's, yes, he's getting to the age where guys often go off the cliff. And sometimes it happens quickly. We've seen that a lot with wide receivers and running back. Now, the Andre Hopkins, we wanted him and he at age 31, I believe, still had a great season last year.


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[Assistant] But Amari Cooper has had injuries, as Mike pointed out, I don't know if he just said it now or before the show. Amari's dealt with injuries at the end of the ball season, but the


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[Assistant] Right now the Browns have nobody else at the position that is really starting caliber and so they've got to have him at minimum for this year.


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[Assistant] And that's why if it was my choice, I'd extend him for next year, cut the cap number down this year. If I have to give him a third year, I guess I would do it. I'd give him a third year before I'd let him go now. I guess is the bottom line for me.


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[Assistant] Now what they could do, Jason, uh, is...


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[Assistant] There's 16 quarterbacks in the AFC. Okay. That are likely starters this year. Some teams it may not be certain. For next year. And you tell me for the next three years, would you rather have Deshaun Watson based on all the information we have right now? Right. Would you rather have Deshaun Watson or this guy? Okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, Patriots have nobody, so he's ahead of that. So give me Deshaun. Uh, Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] Uh, the stealer situation. We take him, we take him. Uh, C.J. Stroup.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't know the Raiders quarterback is, so we'll take Watson there. Yep, Watson.


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[Assistant] The ones we're in agreement on, Herbert, Mahomes, Stroud, Burrow, Lamar.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, and that's it, and Buffalo. Six, yeaah. Six. Uh, I had a couple of, so you, you had him seventh, you had him seventh, I think you had him. Eighth. And I think I had him ninth. Okay, so.


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[Assistant] So he played 15 games this year. That's nice. He has played at least 15 in all but three years of his career. Okay.


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[Assistant] Right in the draft. To this point, they haven't, they have to, they have to overdo it. I mean, I, I'd like to see them go get, we've talked about these free agent wide receivers. We know some of them are going to be franchised, but not all of them. There's six really good wide receivers.


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[Assistant] Not like Elijah Moore. Yeah, I, I, I, there's, I mean, 850 yardage. I don't know what it was.


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[Assistant] The biggest names are Michael Pittman from the Colts. I love him. T Higgins from the Bengals.


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[Assistant] Uh, Calvin Ridley from Jacksonville, Mike Williams from the Chargers, and Marquise Brown from the Cardinals. I, I mean, not all those guys will get the free agency, but those guys are all huge upgrades for number two wide receivers. I mean, Mike Evans is the number one, and so is T. Higgins.


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[Assistant] If they're going to play in that lane of the T. Higgins, Pittmans, Evans, then I think the smart move is to do what you said.


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[Assistant] I know Calvin Ridley didn't have an amazing season with Jacksonville. He was good, not great. I don't know what his final numbers were. He was a little disappointing this year.


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[Assistant] Okay, so he's still at a thousand yards. Calvin Ridley and Mark East Brown, who I think both of those guys will get the free agency.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the only, my only concern that they might not do that is they're kind of, you know, they're not going to cut David Bell after two years, especially when he showed a little progress at the end of the year. They're not going to sit cut Cedric Tillman after one year and they just traded for Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] They're all free agency, that's the point. I think Zdarius is just going over the cliff.


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[Assistant] But between Alex Wright and Ogbo, you can bring in another veteran free agent in the mix there.


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[Assistant] I don't like that. I said no on Shelby Harris because I was gonna say yes on the other defensive tackle.


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[Assistant] He's on the list. Yeaah. Alright. See, I'd be very surprised if Taki-Taki came back. I would too.


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[Assistant] Factor into the equation. I think what Jason is saying is that this is maybe not even an issue between Flacco and Watson


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[Assistant] There's a big difference because Jacoby's not going to take the chances that Flacco does. So he's not going to make the big plays Flacco does. He's also not going to throw as many picks as Flacco does.


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[Assistant] Although he didn't draft Jordan Elliott, right? He was drafted I think the year before.


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[Assistant] Although I think somebody should, and maybe the brown side and the punt guy, that guy's been blackballed from the lead.


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[Assistant] I don't know that Trevor Bauer's been definitively cleared like this guy.


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[Assistant] By the way, speaking of Bauer, like for, it wasn't that long ago that the, the rotation was Bauer and Kluber and Clevenger and all those guys are like done basically. Clevenger's nobody signed him.


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[Assistant] He's had opportunities. Well, but if he had a, if they, if they gave him a promotion, the Browns couldn't stop him. If they made him the assistant.


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[Assistant] That's what kept them off the team. And just like, you know, G said yesterday, well, Miles Garrett should get like a little bit of a boost because the Browns had the best defense. In the same thing where the Bucks are, their numbers are pretty close.


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[Assistant] Close. So the media like, the media was the only one that had Mitchell ahead of Lillard.


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[Assistant] They do need to draft another tackle. Not necessarily the second round, but they need to draft a tackle at some point or add a tackle because I would think you're going to move on from Jed Wills after this year, after 24.


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[Assistant] I've got the Chiefs and the 49ers winning. Uh, probably wrong.


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[Assistant] Everything points to the Ravens winning this game. Which is why they won't. But, I don't know man, I bet against Patrick Mahomes last week.


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[Assistant] And Patrick Mahomes is just a different cat in the playoffs. Uh, he wasn't the best quarterback in the regular season this year for the first time.


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[Assistant] I'm going with the Chiefs and I'm rooting for the Lions because I want, I want the Lions to win it all. I do too. But I just think the 49ers are too tough. But I think both games will be close.


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[Assistant] I wanted to see Josh Allen play Lamar because there's a lot of talk about who's better between those two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, obviously not the weekend we wanted, so we're gonna dive right into it. Two hours of brown stuff, we're gonna figure out what went wrong and everything else, but first...


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[Assistant] If you have a winning ticket on FanDome, make sure you tweet it at us. Send it to me on Twitter, but, uh, guys, let's get right into it. It was, uh, disappointing.


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[Assistant] Well yeaah, I just want, I just want to ask because we're going down the next line here, which is totally fine. But, uh, if you're watching, we do appreciate you guys all the support all season. Hit the like button, hit the subscribe button.


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[Assistant] And we're gonna do that, by the way, Bull, I'm on it. I got my best guy, aka me.


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[Assistant] Guys, Joe Flacco, Jay, you called it the magic carpet ride he had been on.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, we'll get back to the Browns in one sec. There's no barbershop today. G. Bush is sick, which means he is, uh, resting his voice. So no barbershop today. Keep that in mind, but we'll have a barbershop later in the week behind the glass. Did anybody check in on him Saturday? I was worried about you. He did the post-game show. He was very open and adamant about the Texans.


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[Assistant] Absolutely beating the crap out of the Browns at every facet of the game, offensively, defensively, special teams, coaching, you name it. And he was very, uh, he took his lumps on the chin.


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[Assistant] He said he knows and we know that his comments on Monday about the library card and stuff got back to the Texans locker room.


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[Assistant] He, uh, he was willing to eat it. He had receipts and actually read a few on the post game show. So if you missed it, feel free to go back and watch. But, uh, G has a stomach bug. He sent us a doctor's note. So no. Who were his biggest, who did he blame most? Jim Schwartz. He was most on Jim Schwartz for just being completely.


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[Assistant] That's fair. Outmatched, outmatched and outclassed. And Bobby Slobich, the Texans offensive coordinator, is going to get head coaching. Oh, he's a head coach by February.


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[Assistant] We'll talk some other NFL stuff towards the end in overtime, guys. We'll spend five minutes on this, then we'll move on. But real quick, we spent all of the week leading up to the Texans game and all the week leading up to the Bengals game saying it was the right move to sit players. I was the one arguing to play Flacco.


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[Assistant] I'm not, no, no, I'm actually not, but I'm asking, cause I, if flak wouldn't come out rusty in the defense, uh, it would wait till the second half to fall apart, but.


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[Assistant] In hindsight, and obviously we have the results now, so it's easy to play the results game, but...


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[Assistant] Knowing what we know, how it ended. Do you still think it was the right move to sit everybody in week 18 or do you think it did throw off the rhythm? This could be a three minute discussion. We can move on after, but quickly do you guys. Yeah, no.


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[Assistant] Emerson, Hickman, guys who had been relatively solid all season just got completely worked.


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[Assistant] In hindsight, do you think we underrated the Texans more than we overrated the Browns in this sense? And how do you kind of come to terms or put it to context?


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[Assistant] We're going to have Jonathan Wells on in about 45 minutes. Oh, he's coming on to take a victory lap. He texted me. We said if we'll have him back Monday, expecting to. Yeah, but he was going to give one.


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[Assistant] It'll be ugly. I do have one more question before we move on to the next thing, though. But, uh, in the past game with CJ Strout, we saw receivers.


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[Assistant] Probably be more open against this Brown secondary we had seen at any other point during the season. I mean, Dalton Schultz on a couple of those deep passes. He was wide open. Nico Collins got past Emerson and Newsome. Brevin Jordan ran past everybody. Are you su-


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[Assistant] I don't want to say lack of effort, but there were a few plays, and especially the tight end screen that went for 76 yards where just the tackling was poor. That was Emerson.


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[Assistant] Right, yeaah. Jason, what'd you make of some of the post-game comments yesterday, especially about the defense not making adjustments and Denzel Ward simply saying, quote, we just didn't show up.


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[Assistant] Okay, Mike. We got five minutes before we gotta read some super chats, cause there's some really fun ones, then we'll get Jonathan Wells at 12.45. We usually do the shotgun intros, but, uh, bull, I'm gonna do a fan duel read, and we're gonna do some final thoughts.


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[Assistant] We got five minutes for a super chat to Jason. You want to start? Instead of shotgun intros, let's do shotgun outros, but.


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[Assistant] Just the overall disappointment, thoughts, anything you wanna go. You got about a minute and a half. The floor is yours.


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[Assistant] Guys, we got super chats, so let me get into these and we'll have Jonathan Wells here in a sec. We got a lot of really funny ones and some ones that are worth discussing real quick. But Betsy Gardner says, the agony of my Browns playoff experience. Red write 88, the drive, the fumble, the shootout, the helmet hit, and now the blowout. Hopefully someday we get the comeback.


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[Assistant] Setapartlaz says, don't care what anyone says, we shouldn't have sat our starters against Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] UberDriver, shoutout to UberDriver, says Cleveland and Dallas are both similar teams in player skills. Neither team have no game changers. Watson is Cleveland's game changer. He can put the team on his shoulders, assuming he's not injured. DBDog21 has a question, and Jay, I'll let you answer this, and then we'll move on. There's a bunch of questions, so we'll try to keep these quick.


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[Assistant] I have a goal of one day owning an NFL franchise. Why do you guys feel like the Haslums are such crappy owners? Serious question. He seems to have gotten better with the regime and my way off here.


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[Assistant] Alright, next up comes from Charles T, who asks, How do you guys feel about other Cleveland media members saying this is the Fanski's fault for not running the ball more, while comparing Cleveland's running backs to Detroit running backs, running backs, who are a whole lot light years better?


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[Assistant] Uh, he named a couple I didn't want to name. I'll tell you, I don't want, I don't want to name people who aren't on this show on this show. Charles T also said defense is to get the most blame in this game. They look slow out of place. Newsome got cooked.


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[Assistant] So to Thornhill, so who gets replaced on the defensive line? We'll talk about it tomorrow, Charles. So we'll answer that question tomorrow. P. Williams said the Browns had injuries and worked through them. Miles was hurt. Ward was hurt. Watch the game closely. Uh, Flacco is the reason you can't fight back to back.


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[Assistant] Alright, next up Josh M says my most generous observation of Saturday is this. The Browns are riding a wave of momentum that was absolutely electric. We could all feel it taking an L and 16 days off killed that and it showed on Saturday.


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[Assistant] Uh, we have another one like that in a sec. OP method said good teams have bad games. This wasn't us. Sly said the defense didn't have a chance to make adjustments in the second half because Flacco threw those two pick sixes. Brunel Jackson said can't be sharp after sitting 17 days. That killed the momentum.


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[Assistant] A couple more here, and I wanna end with one in particular, so if I skip yours, I'll get back to it in one sec, so I wanna end with this, but Sly said in relation, uh,


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[Assistant] Heard he didn't have McCaffrey or Debo. It was a fraudulent D beating up on bad quarterbacks. We're going to dive into that tomorrow. Vernell Jackson said the whole panel thought the season was doomed when we lost Watson to season ending injury.


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[Assistant] Now we shouldn't have traded for him, you guys are hypocrites? No, not at all.


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[Assistant] Uh, three more that will bring Jonathan Wells in here. Uh, Ahmed Fadala has two. He says, why does everyone keep talking about the Sean Watson versus the Ravens in the second half? He went 14 for 14 on check downs. We watched the game. His longest pass traveled 15 air yards. He made great passes.


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[Assistant] And on cue, and Jason, I'll let you address this one first, said, Watson is 8-4 as the starter 4-1 this year, wins over Stats. Get outta here with the, with the...


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[Assistant] Hey, the final four is set and we got some dandies. Three old teams and one new team. And I think the biggest takeaway from the weekend is this. If Detroit can do it, why not Cleveland?


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[Assistant] But for 40 years, for 40 years, they were discounted from the conversation just like we were.


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[Assistant] Here now, they've got an uphill climb. It's going to be a tough one Sunday, but they have a chance. And the other three, nothing excites me about the other three because, you know, same old, same old for me, but I love the fact that we've got a newbie in there and let's see what they could do. The Detroit Lions.


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[Assistant] One win from the Super Bowl. And then, correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't look this up.


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[Assistant] That would leave the Browns as the only long-term standing franchise.


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[Assistant] All of the remaining eight were first round picks and a lot of them, except for Perdy, who is of course Mr. Irrelevant. So you have the outlier and then you have all of the number ones. Quickly, we're going to talk about this throughout the next couple of weeks.


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[Assistant] Uh, has your favorite changed for who's going to win the Super Bowl? Obviously, you know. Yea, I had the Bills with me. You had the Bills. I had the Bills losing to the Niners. I still had the Niners winning.


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[Assistant] So do you go with Baltimore now? Do you go with Detroit?


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[Assistant] I do think that we have the best two teams in the AFC.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the NFC, I mean, there were a couple of teams. Dallas petered out quickly. I think you got the four best teams. I mean, at one point this year, we weren't looking at Detroit.


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[Assistant] See now, the all or nothing, see I think that's where we always get in trouble with tweets and with hot takes. It's never an all or nothing. It's not. It's not Baker's a choker. Yes, that's part of the story, but also you can't, to your point, you can't dismiss the year and even the playoff run he had up until that


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[Assistant] There really is no debate that he had a way better season than Deshaun. And here's the biggest piece of evidence I'll offer. You gotta be on the field to have a great season.


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[Assistant] Congratulations, most importantly, whatever your national champion, I don't care what it is, cheerleading, basketball, football, wrestling, you're the top of your class. So congratulations.


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[Assistant] Really? Lose my mind. Yeah, some of them is like... I typically hover in the... well, probably...


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[Assistant] Hey, one noteworthy thing that we have to pay attention to on today's show, and that's that Brown's general manager, Andrew Berry, is going to give his stay to the team. He just started one minute ago. He was supposed to start at 11. He's a little late, but we're monitoring that with like five or six sets of eyeballs. Jason, in fact, is there. That's why he's not here.


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[Assistant] He's gonna call in later after it's all over and the dust has settled and he's had some time to gather his thoughts. So uhm,


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[Assistant] I would expect to hear things like, we like our receiver room. I would expect to hear when asked why he fired the offensive coordinator. Uh, it was a team decision. We felt that it was time to move on. All the politically correct answers that answer nothing. So that's all coming up later. He doesn't say anything.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, I don't know, and hopefully Andrew Barry will give us some sort of clarity on this issue, but...


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[Assistant] If this is just gonna be AVP part 2, who cares? What do you, what do you mean by that? If this guy, if the, if, if the new OC. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Is gonna have the same authority or lack thereof.


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[Assistant] To make a difference, who cares? It doesn't, it won't change anything for me.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm just trying to clarify. No, that's exactly what I'm saying. And honestly, now, if they change this up and they say, we're gonna relieve Stefanski of his play calling duties, and by the way, if they do that, I think that's the beginning of the end.


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[Assistant] But if they do go that far, uh, and the fact that we haven't seen


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[Assistant] Uh, contract extension. Now maybe he's going to announce it today. I would have led with it. So we haven't heard of that yet. So I still don't think it's coming. At least I'm in the immediate, right? No, because you would, you would have opened with guys just want to let you know, we just extended our head coach Kevin Spansky for four years. I think it's a, Jimmy should speak. He should, but he won't.


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[Assistant] I think it should be an organizational thing, and I, you know, I would definitely want Andrew Berry's input in that decision.


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[Assistant] But the fact that we haven't heard that, you're not going to bury that lead. You're not going to say, oh, by the way, guys, Stefanski's here four more years. So to me, I think that some of the, where there's smoke, there's usually fire.


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[Assistant] Now what's crazy about the coaching change was there was no smoke. The fire just erupted. We didn't hear AVP was out. We didn't hear that the tight ends coach and the running backs coach were out. It all just was dropped on us and we're like, wow, okay. So,


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[Assistant] I am hearing whispers, which means there could be some smoke.


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[Assistant] That the organization hasn't completely decided that Stefanski will or will not call plays next year. You know, I think it might come down to who they get in as candidates. The fact that these are the three names they've brought in so far, they're not burning up anybody else's


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[Assistant] No, but Ken Dorsey has called plays. He has called plays, but again, if he's not going to call plays here.


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[Assistant] Then he'll have the same impact on this organization as Alex van Pelt had and the Browns just told us that Alex van Pelt had no influence on this organization.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I think, I think what he's saying is typically, how many times did we say this? Why do they look so good on the first drive and then the offense goes away? That's been his trademark.


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[Assistant] Good job, Earl. Yeah, let's hear that. And if this is true, we got a flashpoint.


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[Assistant] That he loves to script that first drive. No, not everyone. There are, I would say more coaches than not, but I've heard coaches say to Deshaun's point, which by the way is not a bad point. It's not crazy. It's not a bad point. What it comes down to is a difference in philosophy.


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[Assistant] It's work though. It's work for Stefanski. It's absolutely work.


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[Assistant] You do want the quarterback and the head coach to be on that same page. Exactly. And they're not.


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[Assistant] I know, but when you look at what traditionally what the offensive coordinator is tasked with.


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[Assistant] They just fired their offensive coordinator after an 11 or 12 win season. Crazy. Uh, and I just scratched my head and say, what? He was the problem? And if that's the case,


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[Assistant] I think he was the fall guy that, I think, I think the organization said no, there's something wrong.


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[Assistant] So I think the organization is telling us that


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[Assistant] If this is it, and he's gonna take the fall for this,


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[Assistant] That means he had no value in the job. Let me throw this theory by you guys and see if, this is just a theory, no reason, I haven't heard this from anybody.


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[Assistant] Unfamiliar, uncomfortable, being uncomfortable with all these scripted plays at the beginning. And they want to make a change. You can't fire your head coach after the season he had. You can't do it. You can fire the offensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] I like this. If, if it is true, see here's the thing, guys are so smart in 2023 and 4.


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[Assistant] He knew exactly what he was doing when he went on Cam Newton's podcast and said what he said. That was not a mistake. And it was within a couple of days of the OC being out. And his guy was with him. Yes, of course. So you have to realize that there was a conversation between the two of them, most likely. What's our message? What are we going to say? Now look,


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[Assistant] Is it possible that that happened organically? Maybe. But I've just been around it too much and I've seen too many times when players have agendas that it's not an accident or an organic answer. They went in with


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[Assistant] That's telling, I think. Yeah, especially when you say I don't like that. If the organization, and I'm imagining, again, could be wrong, but I would think that at some point this year, Andrew Berry,


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[Assistant] And Deshaun Watson sat down, and it may have been after the last game of the season, and they had their season-ending exit interview there.


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[Assistant] And at some point, I have to imagine that the question was asked, how comfortable are you with the current playcalling situation?


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[Assistant] And now we know that Deshaun was not uncomfortable with at least how the game


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[Assistant] I think it's just a difference in philosophy. To me, that's my takeaway. I am not firmly entrenched in the notion that you have to call 15 scripted plays. I will say this, if you know what your first 15 are by Wednesday, you're practicing them all day Wednesday and all day Thursday. Like anything, the likelihood of being successful increases the more


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[Assistant] Touchdowns on opening drives. It's work. Let's not nitpick stuff that's working.


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[Assistant] Let's go to stuff that isn't working and try to find common ground. I just think it's noteworthy for one reason.


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[Assistant] It, it highlights a clear separation in philosophy between coach and quarterback. And by the way, that's not the end of the world. Brady disagreed with a lot of his offensive coordinators on huge tent pole philosophy ideas on how to run an offense, but they made it


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[Assistant] Right, sure. He might have been talking about, you know, one thing I don't like about the NFL is that these coaches script everything. That could be true too. He didn't use Stefanski's name. Here's the thing, I think. We know that Stefanski likes to script plays. We know Deshaun Watson doesn't. It's not the end of the world.


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[Assistant] It doesn't mean that they can't have success together. It means this, they've got to find common ground somewhere. Maybe Stefanski scripts 15 plays that will work as long as we stay on schedule, which is a big assumption by the way in the NFL, that you're staying on schedule. One sec on first down, you're off schedule and your second and third plays likely won't work.


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[Assistant] What was his comment? Did you hear his comments on Flacco and the likelihood that he would be back? I'm sure that's what he was asked.


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[Assistant] I didn't even factor that in. I didn't factor money in. The assumption is that the money would be the same.


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[Assistant] I'm just talking strictly on returning roster.


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[Assistant] Talent at that position. I think they both have really good running backs.


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[Assistant] I just think that you're, you're investing in Aaron Rodgers if you go to the Jets. And to me that at his age, coming off the injury he had, that's a dicey proposition to me.


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[Assistant] I don't think they ever had that control here. I think that was the Stefanski decision to keep Hunt and Chubb off the field together. I will say this about, uh, Deuce Staley. If he takes the job, very reputable.


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[Assistant] He was a good player. I haven't heard anything negative about him as a coach. Everything I have heard about him is positive. I will say this though, I'll give you a little bit of advice.


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[Assistant] Don't be talking to reporters. Don't do it. That message was sent loudly and clearly.


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[Assistant] Listen, I had a couple of people reach out to me, uhm, and suggest to me, and I want to get your thoughts on this. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Got a few carries left? No, as a coach, as a running backs coach. I don't think he'd want to do it, would he? I don't know, I can't, I don't think he would dismiss it out of hand. Really?


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[Assistant] To offer the game to not be in the game anymore. And now here he is. And I have always looked at Leroy as I thought that Leroy would have been the best pick.


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[Assistant] For the Browns when they had their color opening, when they moved on from Doug Deacon.


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[Assistant] I thought, I like a former player and it's nothing personal against the way they went.


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[Assistant] He plays. Perhaps. But I, we had a co, Leroy and I had conversations about what he should do to try to get in that lane. A lot of fans don't want honesty. No.


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[Assistant] I think I told you guys this when I used to help the, uh, NFL.


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[Assistant] With their player symposium on players that were trying to become, uh, crossover broadcasters.


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[Assistant] I met with DeQuel and I told all of the folks that were high up, and these are folks on the NFL Communications Committee, I said DeQuel is a future star.


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[Assistant] Well, let me ask you this. Then why is Jason Kelsey not on the Kansas City Chiefs? Well, he's not cut. Well...


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[Assistant] They, they could cut him. Like, why, Kelsey could go to the Eagles? I didn't know that was a thing either. Kelsey could go to the Eagles and say, cut me?


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[Assistant] That is the number one, cause I've asked that question of hundreds of players. And the number one response I get is, oh hell no, I'm not working 18 hours a day, 11 months out of the year.


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[Assistant] Is that in terms of how many backup quarterbacks they've had on their roster over the last three years? He's probably right if that's what he's referring to.


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[Assistant] We're really happy with Kevin. But, but can't explain why they were really unhappy with Alex.


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[Assistant] And here's the thing, the question from Mary Kay, if it was Mary Kay's question, it was her tweet, was a pointed question about an extension. Quote, we're very happy with Kevin.


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[Assistant] What's going to happen if I think what might, here's how I read between the lines. If he's a good soldier and he goes along with everything that we say he needs to


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[Assistant] My hope is it's a Haslam and, the way it should work, it should be a Haslam and Andrew Barry decision. Right. My fear is that Paul DiPodesta has a voice at the table.


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[Assistant] And that Jimmy ultimately has THE voice at the table, and in that case, Logic may lose.


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[Assistant] If I'm, if I'm Kevin Stefanski and I hear that that's the Kevin endorsement that you're giving me is we like Kevin Stefanski. They also say they liked Alex van Pelt. It just wasn't the right fit.


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[Assistant] But don't be crazy. You know, the definition of insanity? When you do the same thing over and over again and expect different results.


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[Assistant] We really like Kevin Stefanski. Yeah, we'll see. That's true. But it wasn't the answer. If I'm Kevin Stefanski, it's not the answer I want to hear.


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[Assistant] What I would say in making these decisions, are you prepared to see him in a Bengals uniform?


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[Assistant] Well, here's the thing. Look at the contract that they, and we all shook our heads at it.


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[Assistant] Well, that's why I use the Bengals cause they, you know, mix it is a guy that they could move on from.


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[Assistant] That's true. That's exactly right. Now his happened, but his happened for an entirely different reason. He was out of the game and nobody else.


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[Assistant] And again, if they threw that kind of crazy contract at Conklin...


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[Assistant] And they give him the play calling duties. Yeaah. I don't know how they expect fans to buy that.


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[Assistant] Remember, Hugh Jackson received a contract extension after 0 and 16. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And our 11-win coach with five different quarterbacks who did a marvelous job of calling plays this year.


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[Assistant] Like there are six open jobs right now. There would be a team that would give Kevin Stefanski a head coaching


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[Assistant] Well, a lot of question marks for a team that, uh, won 11 games and made a playoff game. Jason, Jason, I'm wondering, uh, it's really hard. We're reading these, the text of these comments.


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[Assistant] On the Stefanski issue alone, uhm,


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[Assistant] The read between the line vibe that you picked up from Andrew Berry and the chance that he's going to be calling plays. Is there anything that the text of those comments misses and


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[Assistant] Especially when Kevin is held so tightly to the idea that he continues calling plays. What about the extension? What was your vibe on that? Because that to me felt like I was surprised that he answered it the way he did.


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[Assistant] Alright, Chase, thanks for the insight. Appreciate it.


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[Assistant] Great. Thanks Jason. So that's what he was talking about. We lead the league in backup quarterback ventures. Yeaah. Because he's right, they have spent big on backup quarterback. They did.


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[Assistant] And that's the thing moving forward. You're going to pay your starting quarterback $64 million.


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[Assistant] Before we get to our next topic real quickly, uhm, they asked me if I would do this and I said I would. It should be of interest to some of our viewers.


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[Assistant] Tomorrow night is the big Cleveland Sports Awards gala. It's the one night out of the year where you get folks from all of the sports teams to come together. It's at the Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it's always a very fun evening. A lot of folks, uhm, of note will be there. Uhm, Stephen Vogt, we'll get to hear from him for the first time, uhm, since his initial hiring. He's gonna be here, uhm, to present. Joel Bittonio will present. Anderson Varijow will present.


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[Assistant] Josh Cribbs will present, Chris Rose will present, and Ayat will be presenting as well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Lifetime Achievement Awards, you guys know the deal. Player of the Year, Player of the Year, Athlete of the Year, all of that. It's always a really fun night. To me, the highlight of it is the silent auction.


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[Assistant] That is live. And even if you're not there, you can participate online. Just go to clevelandsports.com. The items that they have for the, if you're a big Cleveland sports fan and you looking for that centerpiece piece of memorabilia, this is always the best place to nail that down. Um, so you got your outfit picked out.


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[Assistant] I do not. No, I'm not a big planner on stuff like that. You're not wearing no tuxedo? I'll pick it out tomorrow. No, I don't typically wear tux. Not even when I was the featured speaker did I wear tux. I've seen guys wear tux to it. Very few. Did you wear tux at your wedding?


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[Assistant] elevate other guys, you're saying we need other guys to elevate our quarterback. It's incumbent upon the quarterback to raise the level of play of those around him. Jackson's done that.


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[Assistant] Because we've got a beautiful experiment with a control. And the control is Joe Flacco. And with Joe Flacco, Omari Cooper,


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[Assistant] I'm saying the control in this experiment is because you're absolutely right.


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[Assistant] I've looked at the skills positions players that Kansas City had. I've said all year, they don't scare me. They don't scare me. They don't scare me. All of a sudden, when the playoffs come,


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[Assistant] We haven't even given enough flowers to what Patrick Mahomes has done historically. For reference, he is in his sixth season.


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[Assistant] What this guy is doing is simply rewriting what we've thought of that position. He's won, he averages two wins.


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[Assistant] That's why he's been in the AFC Championship game for six straight years. It's mind boggling what he's done. And this year, in particular, he's doing it a different way. Their defense is tremendous. They were rattling off some stats about that Kansas City defense.


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[Assistant] during the game last night. And with each stat, I kept saying, oh my God, nobody has scored 24. Oh my God. Nobody has given up. It had 400 yards.


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[Assistant] They added that as a major tool as a way to win games. They are running the ball better. Pacheco helps. But especially in the playoff, boom, he goes up here. So I just want to see him, I want to see Deshaun Watson elevate the play of those around him.


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[Assistant] But it's all based on the assumption that he is not in the top five in the AFC.


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[Assistant] I'll get my answer. I'm more inclined to go along with him.


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[Assistant] I, I, I certainly don't feel better. I cannot say that, oh well, wow, you know, Houston really gave Baltimore a struggle. Now I don't feel so bad. So I definitely don't feel better. If anything, I feel slightly worse. But to Bull's point, would they have seven pre-snap penalties with that cloud in Baltimore?


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[Assistant] With the exception of Patrick Mahomes, the road teams are all going home.


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[Assistant] And Patrick Mahomes is him. He's that special guy. He's good enough to overcome a crazy home field advantage. So for me, I don't want to sit here and say, oh boy, now I'm really troubled because they boat race ball, uh, Houston. Here's where I know this team can be.


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[Assistant] Especially after seeing the way this, these playoffs have played out.


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[Assistant] And what was our Achilles heel this year? Of all items this year, it was road games. Outside of the Ravens game. And the defense. Outside of the Ravens game. It wasn't just offense, it was the defense. It was the defense. So for me,


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[Assistant] It, when you, when you stack up the evidence like this, Mahomes and Burrow and Allen and this, you know, gauntlet of AFC quarterbacks are young and they're not going anywhere.


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[Assistant] With the fact that this team has constituted is nowhere near a playoff team when they're on the road.


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[Assistant] That's troubling because they're likely going to have to find a way to be good on the road.


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[Assistant] In three, if you don't got to, in three times, you got, like. It's hard, teams have done it though. But you know what they have to do, here's what they have to do, or they're always going to be on the road in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] They have to beat not one of, but both. Yeah, they gotta go forward now. Allen and Jackson in the regular season. They've got to win the division to secure a one home playoff guess. And that is a steep mountain decline.


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[Assistant] Was the ghost of last year in their heads? I thought it was. And they showed it in the open to the game.


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[Assistant] I don't want to say I forgot how great it was, but I kind of forgot how great it was. They scored what looked like was the touchdown to put them in the Super Bowl. You talked about, by the way, I know that the Browns say we're hacks, we're cursed. No, the Bills are cursed. The Bills are cursed.


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[Assistant] As much as we can feel sorry for ourselves. I'll be sick. This team lost four straight Super Bowls. Yeah. One on a missed field goal. That kick last night went, was like.


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[Assistant] I know it was. It was like the curse gods went, no, no, no, no, no. It was crazy. And it's crazy because now, 30 years later,


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[Assistant] I'm with you, I'm thinking, what are you doing? This is what you, last year when you scored, and there were 13 seconds left.


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[Assistant] If they played that final 13 seconds out a thousand times, I think the Chiefs win once. Right.


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[Assistant] And they did it. And so I'm wondering, Bull, cause I was saying the same thing. What are we doing here? The first objective has to be


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[Assistant] Right, and I just thought they took their foot off the gas. They've got the guy, but they're not using him properly.


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[Assistant] Take off his shirt, throw back a bunch of beers, and...


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[Assistant] You know, they made a comment, and I'm hoping you guys can fill in the blanks, because I haven't studied it closely enough. When they showed, what's her name? Sheila Ford.


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[Assistant] But they were effusive in praise for her on how she's run the organization, how she's gone out and hired the right people for the right spot. I love Dan Campbell, guys. If I could pick any coach right now in the NFL, now he might have a burnout rate.


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[Assistant] Because it's a little John Gruden-esque. And I was told by some folks that cover the Raiders, love them early, because you're going to hate them later. And the players will too. And they burned out on John. And he might have that going on, but I love him right now. He's done a great job. He's emotional.


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[Assistant] It's been channeled in the right direction, but I do worry that there could be a spot


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[Assistant] And think about it. Think about his journey. You talk about NFL creates these storylines in a lab somewhere. His journey this year, should it culminate in a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Came to the new team, the Rams, and won a Super Bowl. Making it seem like golf was holding us back. And now you fast forward a couple of years, and although the Rams deserve credit for being back in the cycle that fast.


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[Assistant] The Rams come to Detroit, and you talk about the ultimate redemption story. Right. I mean, that would be the equivalent of Baker beating the Browns in a Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Trent Dilfer beating, you know, he won one for the Ravens, but he won it in Tampa Bay. I think it goes to show.


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[Assistant] Like is it, where is he? Where is he right now among the pass rushers? Because for me?


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[Assistant] And I think, by the way, I can disagree with nothing that you just said, other than I do think he's bottom tier in the top ten. Just because he was in the top ten of all the stats this year.


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[Assistant] But let me ask you this, because when I was watching it, I was thinking, I wonder what Bull says about this.


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[Assistant] I am seeing a different Baker Mayfield off the field.


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[Assistant] I think what happened to the Browns ultimately was the best thing that could have happened to him. And the Panthers. That had to be really


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[Assistant] The one comment that I said, I gotta ask Bull about this. Gardner Johnson, I think his name is, the defensive back for the Lions said, it's a nice squad if they had a good quarterback. Right.


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[Assistant] They asked Baker about that and I think they asked him, you know, were you offended by that? And first of all, his comments to me, instead of firing back and being like snippy back, he was just like, hey, he's a good player. He's been in the league for a long time. This guy's a good player. But I loved when he said, yeah, I'm offended. I've got small man syndrome or whatever.


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[Assistant] They talk about the Steelers and their track record with head coaches, how they just hit on them.


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[Assistant] I mean, now they didn't draft Brett Favre. He was the foul. But there were other teams that saw what Brett Favre was that could have gone after him. The Packers went after him. They got him. They had him for 18 years or whatever the hell it was. And then Aaron Rodgers had a long run. And now it looks like he is the next in the succession of great quarterback.


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[Assistant] We're just removed from a Game 7 loss in the World Series, and things were, couldn't look any better. Meantime, our cousins to the Southwest,


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[Assistant] The fanbase had decided this owner isn't doing enough.


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[Assistant] He's spending money. I think he's got a really good general manager in there. You look at the roster of the Cincinnati Reds, that's a guardians-esque roster. That's stuff we have traditionally done.


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[Assistant] This nonsense that, let me put this through the bullshit translator. Can we put the Dolan comment up again? Yea. You know, I love the bullshit translator. You know, we used it with Andrew Berry, I'm going to use it right now with Paul Dolan.


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[Assistant] We're not gonna spend money, we're in a rebuild, and we're gonna do it with all of our young guys. There's nothing to see here, so stay home for a few years.


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[Assistant] Was, last year was, was, uh, straw, did he finish with the lowest average? Cause two years ago, I think he may have. I think he had the lowest OPS. Yeah, lowest OPS, so I did the


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[Assistant] I got two super chats real quick to wrap it up. I'll guarantee you, in the modern day live era of baseball, in the live ball era of baseball, that's got to be a record by a lot. That's three and a half of people.


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[Assistant] That's just wrong in its premise. Nobody on this panel thinks that Kevin Stefanski fired AVP.


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[Assistant] In fact, we have intel from reporters that have talked to players that said that was not a Stefanski move. I don't for a second think that was Stefanski.


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[Assistant] We're killing the Browns for trying to get better and more creative.


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[Assistant] We have seen this organization in the last two years


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[Assistant] Try to get better and more creative on offense. They got rid of Baker, who made it to the final eight this year.


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[Assistant] They went with a guy who in theory was a better and more creative quarterback, and so far it hasn't panned out.


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[Assistant] So if your track record is you make all these moves and they hit, you get the benefit of the dollar. That's right. We'll see you on all the time.


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[Assistant] Nah, I went to the store. This was like, you know what I'm saying? This was one, I think this was what was in my office. I was like, no, I'm gonna get this. I'm not gonna tell my wife though.


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[Assistant] You know what, I'ma change my strategy. See, it looks like he was taking little safe, like, I'ma take Jamar Gibbs for over 40 yards. I'ma take, uh, say, I'ma say, bruh, listen, I'ma take him for 60 yards. And then boom, my wife's still mad, by the way.


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[Assistant] And he can bring some college concepts to the pros that make it right there. Like right now, there's a lot of things that they do in college football to get guys open. And people in the league say you can't do that because, you know, hey, it's college. No one's going to let you get that off. But there's a lot of things that trickle down from


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[Assistant] If I could get a coordinator quality type coach.


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[Assistant] Go to an entry level position at tight end. That means, okay, I got, that's an upgrade. Now.


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[Assistant] So why, so why would you, when you got these, these coordinators, right?


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[Assistant] I would do this. I mean, I would say, okay, if I'm gonna hire a running backs coach, if I'm gonna hire a tight ends coach, yea, any coach can coach those positions.


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[Assistant] But give me five or so assistants that have alcohol plays. Sure.


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[Assistant] Can you imagine the synergy with that? Because they're not just thinking about positions. They are, all of them are thinking from a perspective of this is how I need to coach this guy based on the big picture of what we need to do. Couldn't that also backfire?


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[Assistant] When I used to hire people in corporate America, I used to be, I used to say, okay, I sit in an interview and I would say, look, I want people that I think can do my job, not just a regular worker bees. Like, yes, you have to do certain things to get to that level. But if you hire people that you are already knowing that you're trying to promote,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you, you got, you have to be, we just go to the training classes and they say you pick the people who think that could take your job because then that means when they take your job, where are you going?


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[Assistant] So it makes the whole organization better. And if I got guys that can think on a bigger picture instead of just on a micro level day to day, I think it pays.


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[Assistant] And you, and defensive guys, it's hard for them to save their own selves. Like if you under, if you under a fire because your team ain't playing well, and you don't call the defensive plays.


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[Assistant] Then, like, how can you save yourself? It's up to your offensive coordinator and your quarterback to do something. But if you're a young coordinator who calls plays, you can change a lot of stuff. What's funny though is Brian Callahan did


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[Assistant] You know, he, you put yourself out there. Callahan is probably gonna be here until he doesn't want to be here.


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[Assistant] But he can go over there with his son and get shot around. Like, they get fired.


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[Assistant] I tweeted it at first because I only saw a snippet of it. I heard him say, you know, uh, I couldn't get the most out of Kareem and basically we tried to have people have interventions with him or whatever the case may be from Deshaun Watson or other quarterbacks to get through to him.


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[Assistant] And then I watched the long length and when I watched the short length, I threw it out and said, is it me or like?


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[Assistant] I watched the fooling and he went in. He basically said,


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[Assistant] And it was unsolicited. She's like, you know, talk about some of the guys that you've, uh, coached and their impact and, you know, pretty much do you have any regrets or anything that things went? It was like, well, you know, if I have one regret, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, I just couldn't get through to Kareem Hunt, you know. Kareem, you know, he's a, he's a good player. I think, you know, we could've, I didn't get the most out of Kareem. You know, I gave him multiple opportunities. He would come to meetings late.


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[Assistant] You know, he would be, you know, guy, one of the first guys off the field. And I even had, you know, some quarterbacks like Deshaun reach out to him and stuff.


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[Assistant] You can't, as a position coach, admonish that man in the media without giving him an opportunity to speak on that. Like that, and he's a free agent? Wait, but, but, but, but I disagree with that. Sounds like he's given him a lot of opportunities. He gave him all kinds of opportunities. But here's the thing though.


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[Assistant] If you gonna, if you cared about it like that, you had to do that, you had to do that privately.


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[Assistant] You can't do an interview, right? You just gotta let go.


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[Assistant] Right? You just got let go. You said...


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[Assistant] The reality of it is those individuals above you, they got rid of you.


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[Assistant] And you could have had an axe to grind on the way out, but you didn't say nothing.


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[Assistant] But yet and still, you chose Unsolicited to talk about Kareem Hunt on the way out.


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[Assistant] That's a parting shot. And by the way, it works both ways here. If you are a guy like, if you looking at what Stump Mitchell did,


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[Assistant] Sure. I mean, I would love to hear what Kareem has to say. Get him on the broadcast. Steve Bookum.


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[Assistant] Or, if it's true. Now here, the theory, the theory, maybe, and I'm gonna give Stump the better definition of the doubt on this, maybe the reason Stump came out against it, it was, that was listed as one of the reasons why they let him go. Because, there's a situation with Cream Hunt, you didn't get the best


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[Assistant] That's hyperbole. People gonna say, how bad is a disaster you see them play 11 games?


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[Assistant] Mind you, let me give you this. Baker Mayfield, when we were here, when he was here, got 60 games and he started. 60!


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[Assistant] We got 60 games to evaluate whether or not Baker Mayfield was a franchise quarterback.


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[Assistant] That's like saying, that's it. To this point, my six month, year old child has not spoken. It's six months.


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[Assistant] We talk about the three first round picks. To get Baker Mayfield, we had to go one in 31.


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[Assistant] People got a problem with the simple fact that when we talk about this thing on Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Then when he left, there was half of our population that says we're going with Baker. Well, would you say Deshaun Watson has a cult? No, no, no.


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[Assistant] People got a problem with it when Baker Mayfield...


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[Assistant] Is average or mid or whatever you want to call him. People bend over backwards to give him. Hold on. You're triggered. Hold on.


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[Assistant] They bend over backwards to say, oh, give him another shot. We did that year after year. Give him another shot. We need another coordinator. We need receivers. It was Odell Beckham's fault. They did all that for four years, right? And as a Browns fan, I sat back and patiently watched and say, you know what? Baker's the quarterback until he's not the quarterback.


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[Assistant] My problem is, when Baker got left up out of here, we see all those excuses, all of that talk.


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[Assistant] This man be here and play the loving games. Now all of a sudden.


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[Assistant] None of them! Bull, let me ask you this though. None! Let me ask you this. Do you believe Baker Mayfield? Do you be- So here's the thing. Go ahead. Do you believe Baker Mayfield?


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[Assistant] Had more, has more of a benefit of the doubt and it's a different standard that they judge quarterbacks with, with Baker Mayfield and other people.


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[Assistant] They go crazy. They're like, it's terrible. It was horrible. It was ridiculous. He wasn't, he didn't want to be here. Why? You know what? That's not true. Maury Cooper's was worked out. Maury Cooper? That's, that's the thing. But here's the thing. We love him. But guess what? There was also people saying, we're not giving Maury Cooper no money before this year.


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[Assistant] What? You think Odell Beckham went well for him here? No, no. What I'm saying to you is, what I'm saying to you is when you got the standards of it, anybody that we bring in, they start doing little stuff like, well, Odell Torres ACL, why did he get on Facebook to congratulate his teammates? Why is he not on the sidelines?


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[Assistant] And we knew it was coming. I see it from both sides. It was coming. When Joe Flacco was bald.


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[Assistant] There was a segment of our population that hoped he balls so much that they was getting to shine up out of here. No, that could never happen, G. We owe him too much money. I'm talking about on the bench.


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[Assistant] We talked about- We can't pay him that to put him on the bench. Wha- Did we not have a conversation with Joe Flacco? You asked him, could he coincide with the sound- Aww man.


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[Assistant] So okay, the thing that we get into is this.


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[Assistant] There's another group of people that see Deshaun Watson as an outsider. So guess what? All of those things.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson can be the best player in the league for 3, 4, 5 years in a row. He'll never be an MVP.


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[Assistant] Enough is enough. And trust me, here's, and I feel like I got a good track record on this. If Deshaun Watson is trash next year, or don't ball out, I'm the one who said, if you want your offensive coordinator,


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[Assistant] If you need your offensive coordinator and you want everything changed, fine, we'll give it to you. But guess what? I'm writing down and I gave you this, this, this, and that. So you better deliver me this many wins. We better be in the playoffs. We better be winning games because if you want to be a franchise quarterback,


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[Assistant] I just would like our fanbase to get a young man an opportunity.


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[Assistant] They're gonna win the playoff match. I thought I would never say that. I think they're gonna win the first round matchup.


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[Assistant] This is the, this is the new wave. And the Cavs have been so resistant to, to join the fray of saying we need one big and three, four, five shooters and jack it up ten, ten jumpers. And now what you see is you getting guys like in the end.


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[Assistant] This dude, listen, I watch this game and I ain't gonna lie.


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[Assistant] Jared Allen is my comeback player of the year. Because Jared Allen was almost on his way up out of here. And not only am I saying he's falling, but I'm saying, well, Mobley, we don't know if you're going to be the big in the 1-4 out. We don't know. And the crazy thing is, I'm a dear


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[Assistant] Wait, when is Darius coming back? They pushed him back a little bit.


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[Assistant] So here's the thing. It's just like Darius Garland with Colin Sexton.


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[Assistant] Oh no, we're not, we're not taking a backseat to Darius Garland. Like, we feel he scores 24 points in a game. Like, he's a, he's a max dude. He's played really well. And so, and they got him up out of there and went. Now, Mobley, what if he says, bro, look, I'm a max player, I'm a unicorn, I'mma come off the bench.


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[Assistant] That's it. What a screeching halt, isn't it? It's the dead time between the start of the end of football and the start of baseball. I'm still excited about the playoffs, but it's not the same. No, it's not the same.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, but you know, uh, this year, so I don't know if you guys know this, but,


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[Assistant] The season's actually starting. The Dodgers and Padres are playing two games in South Korea.


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[Assistant] to start the regular season. Oh, I thought you meant like, coming up soon. No, no, no. Yeaah, the, the first pitch of the season. But it's starting earlier, like, they're playing, I think, the third week of March. Yeaah. And then, they'll fly back, and then the rest of the season starts. But, so the Padres and Dodgers actually report to camp a couple days before the Super Bowl, which is... Wow.


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[Assistant] That's terrible. I mean, the quarterback shouldn't have the ultimate say. No quarterback. I don't care who you are. Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, anything. You should be involved in the process. If I'm a team, I want my most important player, my quarterback, involved. But he can't have the biggest say. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] And if that's the case, then the pros are once again screwing things up. In my opinion.


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[Assistant] Well I don't care who the coach wants. Sure. I care who the GM wants. Because that's his area of expertise. If I'm hiring a personal trainer as a quarterback, well I don't care who the coach wants.


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[Assistant] I want who I want. This is a guy who's my right hand man essentially. If you're going to be the offensive coordinator for Kevin Stefanski, he's got to be his right hand man. There's got to be some level of respect and loyalty between the guys. If that's not the case and a guy's being forced on him, that's terrible.


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[Assistant] All the quarterbacks have gotten a lot of money and those guys have a lot of say.


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[Assistant] Later in their careers, but both Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson wanted to be traded in recent years.


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[Assistant] We don't know for sure what's going on behind the scenes. We've all heard things and nothing's been, we don't know. It'll probably play itself out in the next, in the upcoming days and weeks, right?


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[Assistant] And that guy's calling plays. There's no way I believe Kevin gave that up voluntarily. Now!


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[Assistant] There will be a percentage of our fan base that believes everything that's said in public.


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[Assistant] That, cause Kevin Savance is gonna be a good soldier, right? If, if he does not call the plays, he's not gonna say publicly, well they forced me into it. They won't bull, but we're all smart enough to know that. Well, we may be, but there's certain mem, there's a percentage of the fan base that's always gonna believe the propaganda. Sure. But you know what will seal the deal even for those people? If he doesn't have play calling next year,


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[Assistant] And, there's no extension? That tells you all you need to know. That combo will tell you all you need to know. And if that happens, I hope it doesn't. I hope we're, you know, we're speculating. We don't know.


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[Assistant] If, if, if this is a, a, an ownership move, which I mentioned the other day that some, you know, I heard that it...


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[Assistant] This was an ownership move. Don't know for sure, but yeaah. I've heard the same thing. If this was an ownership move.


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[Assistant] Oh no, if, if, yeah, if there's no extension in the next month, then there's definitely something I already-


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[Assistant] Where you, where you said... It's not good enough, but it's good enough to stay.


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[Assistant] After, listen, nobody's happy the way the season ended in the playoffs, it's not good enough.


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[Assistant] He and Andrew Berry have basically built this team from scratch. Yeaah, uh, you know, some of the previous regimes have a few of the key guys here, but the team's gone from absolute trash to a legitimate contender in a few years. There's things they gotta fix and we don't know about Watson, but man.


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[Assistant] I don't understand wholesale changes feeling needed after


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[Assistant] Is this where you're gonna make your change? I guarantee you there's a segment of the fan base that's like, we're making something out of nothing. This was Kevin's decision. Oh, there always is that portion. So that's, that's where it comes from. We're purposely being negative or whatever agenda they want to throw on us.


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[Assistant] Right. Kevin Stefanski's coming up to the last year of his contract. If, if...


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[Assistant] Doesn't get an extension. If you're a player, are you, are you thinking like, what's going on here? Is there something wrong? Would that, would that cross your mind as a player or no?


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[Assistant] Tim, this is obviously the first time we've spoken to you since the disaster last Saturday.


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[Assistant] How shocked were you? Maybe not necessarily that the Browns lost, but just how they lost that game.


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[Assistant] The answer to the question is yes, Houston can beat Baltimore, no doubt.


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[Assistant] If he can do it to the Browns, he can do it to the Baltimore.


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[Assistant] By the way, teams, teams that, uh, in the Ravens case, remember they sat there guys week 17. They did. Then they had to buy. They're an active almost. Right. So the teams in their scenario that rested guys last week, then had to buy are three and four straight up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I ain't seen Lamar Jackson in weeks. Not to mention Lamar Jackson's track record in the playoffs is pretty awful.


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[Assistant] The Bengals had Kansas City's number, and then last year in the AFC Championship game, the Chiefs got over that.


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[Assistant] If Buffalo can't win this time at home for the first time, this is the first road playoff game that Patrick Malone has ever played. Outside of the Super Bowls that were neutral sides. That's not road.


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[Assistant] There's also some stuff there with the wives. Yeaah. In that situation.


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[Assistant] Green Bay beating San Francisco is a much bigger upset than Houston beating Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Because the NFC is, doesn't have as tough competition.


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[Assistant] Sure, there's no question. If Buffalo beats Kansas City, there's nobody beating Buffalo. I'm convinced of that. I think Kansas City's the only team that can beat it.


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[Assistant] I had a little change of tone along the way. I had a little more energy. It felt real and less reading.


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[Assistant] I mean, people still, I haven't, I haven't done a commercial live on air in two years and people still see me and go Delmonico's, baby. Yeah. Did you come up with that? Damn right I came up with that. That was nice. Did they still use that?


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[Assistant] So Steph, I mean, the Bucks had the Honest and Nuggets.


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[Assistant] And the game was so different then. And before that, who was the last team? Like, I mean, you just can't win that way.


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[Assistant] I don't know off the top of my head. The bottom line is, the bottom line is no team besides that Pistons team 20 years ago has won a championship without.


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[Assistant] Very little playoff experience. They have very little successful playoff experience.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're playing really well right now. Beating crappy teams. Good for them. It's great. It's fun. It's fine. They'll go to the playoffs. Maybe they'll win a round this year. They're not beating Boston. These teams are teams that know how to win in the playoffs already. They're not winning any championship. We all know it. So that's the


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[Assistant] I don't know what the Cavs ratings are compared to last year on TV. I feel like the last handful of years we've gotten to a place in the NBA where the players and teams are telling us


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[Assistant] As clear as day that the regular season doesn't matter and it's hard for me to get excited now about anything in the regular season. When I was a kid,


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[Assistant] I lo- regular season NBA, those guys played every game. They wanted to win every or- and even if they didn't, you didn't know it.


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[Assistant] The easy solution is a solution they will never take because it will cost them money and that's you cut the amount of playoff teams. This is absurd.


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[Assistant] It's like literally eight games. Right. But if, if, if you, if the rule was only four teams make the playoffs in each conference, again, it would never happen. I, but that would solve the


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[Assistant] Maybe it's less of a commitment over it, like it's less, you know. Coach here, it's more year round. Yeaah, that's true.


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[Assistant] Anything can happen. If there's anything that we have learned, you, I jokingly, and I say this with all due respect, but I was texting a friend and I was like, yeah, they're the Mike Tomlin cockroaches, meaning that they never die. And I don't even call them Pittsburgh Steelers. That's the magic of Mike Tomlin.


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[Assistant] That, that, I mean, either way you look at it, it's either the magic or it's the pain of it because they never hit full reset because they're always sort of in this position.


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[Assistant] But you can never count the Steelers out. Does it look good for them without TJ Watt? They're 1 in 10 all time without TJ Watt. TJ Watt is the guy, the last time that I was in Buffalo to cover a Steelers-Bills game, it was TJ Watt who single-handedly secured that victory for the Steelers at the end. It's tough, but anything is possible. That's the fun part of the playoff.


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[Assistant] Well, and that's very, very true in a conversation I had with another coach who, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, we sit here and, but again, it's what you want, right? So on the one hand, the Steelers are always in the conversation and now today, Mike Tomlin officially becomes the longest tenured head coach in the national football league and okay.


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[Assistant] But when you're an organization like the Pittsburgh Steelers, three playoff wins in twelve years should not be the standard. No playoff wins in six years should not be the standard.


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[Assistant] That's exactly what it is. Joe Flacco has already been here. You, I just heard you say this actually, Adam. Joe Flacco's already got the Super Bowl MVP. He's already got the Super Bowl trophy. He's already got the millions and millions and millions of dollars.


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[Assistant] And again, like it goes back to last year, week two, when the Jets were down by two scores with less than two minutes to go. And I'm watching Joe Flacco walk up and down that sideline and very calmly tell his then Jets teammates, guys, we have plenty of time. Guys, we're still in this game. And they were.


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[Assistant] So it's that experience that it helps Joe Flacco in a moment like, what day are we? Thursday? Two days from now. Two days from now.


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[Assistant] All of this, of course you'd want Joe Flacco leading your team right here.


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[Assistant] He, uh, so, he was elected a captain before he ever started a game. And...


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[Assistant] But the reason he's elected a captain is because this absolutely uncommon maturity about him and this fire that while he doesn't need to go out there and call out everybody, this is sort of, I'll draw the Baker Mayfield comparison. Baker Mayfield hears somebody knock him.


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[Assistant] C.J. Stroud hears somebody knock him, like happened with that acuity test or that intelligent, whatever, the next version of the Wonder Look. Oh, he files it away.


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[Assistant] He doesn't bring it up immediately. He doesn't lash out about it immediately. He at some point this season did indeed say, oh, I have a feeling where that came from. But you better believe that he takes that and it's playing somewhere on his shoulder, in his head, whatever the cliche is. I had CJ's very first game and I'll tell you,


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[Assistant] I feel very strongly that I witnessed the moment when he said, okay, I can do this. You know, his first few drives, he was in Baltimore.


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[Assistant] And at one point early in the game, D'Amico Ryans came up to him on the bench, kind of held his face mask and said, just


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[Assistant] Play. No matter what, just play. And it's like CJ went


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[Assistant] And the very next drive, I'm not kidding because I talked about this with Tomiko just a few weeks ago. The very next drive, CJ just seemed to have a little bit more confidence in who he was at the end of that first half. The Texans put together a very long drive that ultimately ended in a field goal, I believe, not a touchdown. But it was just like you saw CJ come into his own. And then week four, my crew, I wasn't with them, this is when we were trading out.


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[Assistant] My crew had Houston again, and they said CJ was just a completely different person in the meeting room. Not quite as deferential, not quite as quiet, not, I mean he's still soft spoken, but I think that


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[Assistant] When you stack reps showing that you can do it, when you continue to have success, that only gives you continued confidence, that only builds your assurance, I belong here and I know that I can do this. And when we talk about veterans, he's got a great veteran in the room, in Case Keenum.


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[Assistant] CJ's an impressive young man. He's a very impressive young man and this is not a knock on him for me to say that I would like Joe Flacco in this game. Maybe I'm just biased because, you know, age is a good thing in my mind.


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[Assistant] Yes, they 100% would be my top two, and uhm, I know there's a good argument to be made for John Harbaugh because he made the changes that needed to be made and look at where they are and he believed in Lamar, all of that. But my top two are definitely Kevin Stefanski and D'Amico Ryan's. I think that, not I say, I, well, I don't know how to phrase this, okay.


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[Assistant] My top two candidates for Coach of the Year would be Kevin Stefanski and D'Amico Ryans. I think the way that D'Amico Ryans upon his hiring,


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[Assistant] All of that is insanely impressive. However,


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[Assistant] Because of all of the injuries that he has had to overcome, and they are not injuries to guys.


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[Assistant] They are injuries to very, very, very key pieces. When you lose your all-pro right tackle, week one, okay, that's a big knock. When you lose the heart and soul of your team and everybody's favorite teammate, week two, and the person that makes your offense go.


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[Assistant] In and out through the first chunk of the season and yet you're still there. Then you lose that star quarterback after arguably your best performance.


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[Assistant] That is a wow. When you were getting Joe Flacco that nobody else even called off the couch.


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[Assistant] To play like an MVP. To suddenly be the arguably comeback player of the year. When you do all of that.


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[Assistant] I mean, I've heard from Riven fans already that are saying that, oh my goodness, they can't help root for Joe Flacco. Which, how awesome is that too? P.S. That this is somebody who's moved on from their team, is playing for a bitter rival, and you still root for that guy.


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[Assistant] Awful, awful, awful, awful. They went into half time. The offense was awful. They went into half time. When they came out, Joe Flacco was indeed warming up.


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[Assistant] But James Urban, the quarterback's coach, had said to John Harbaugh, what's the future here? And what's the statement that we're really making?


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[Assistant] And I had had this conversation, what's the statement we're making to Lamar Jackson? I actually talked to John Harbaugh about this in the locker room after that. And Harbaugh had said, if we win this game with Joe Flacco,


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[Assistant] And then the next week, we go and we lose. Because he was smart enough to recognize, I don't know that we have a Super Bowl team right now. We have a good team, and things can happen. But he'd already been there. He knew when a team could get hot, he knew when a team had the tools, when things were likely. And John Harbaugh had the foresight.


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[Assistant] And I'll tell you that right then, he also said, and Joe is as good of a guy as comes, which he never said whether Joe was a part of that conversation. It was never a would Joe sulk. And I'll tell you, I watched Joe on the sideline of that second half.


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[Assistant] It's just, it's just not who Joe Flacco is. He's just a classy guy, and you're right. I can't imagine him, Jay, standing up there and crowing.


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[Assistant] My choice is the browns. I see the browns winning.


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[Assistant] I do. And that's not just, I will just say this, that is not simply because I work with them in the preseason.


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[Assistant] It is simply because I think that that Brown's defense is ready to go and I really, really, really appreciate Joe Flacco's playoff experience. Good answer.


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[Assistant] 28 hours to kick off for the Browns and the Houston Texans in the wild card game. And with that, we welcome you to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show on WKYC. I'm Jay Crawford. I'm going to tell you why there are three different quarterback rankings for the quarterbacks left in the playoffs that are way off


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[Assistant] We got news that Denzel Ward had dinged his knee a little bit and was limited in practice.


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[Assistant] The news now is tending to be that he's going to play. He's officially listed as questionable for tomorrow. But just knowing that he is nursing some kind of a knee thing, whatever that might be.


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[Assistant] Does that change the way you approach this game defensively knowing that they were probably gonna go with a heavy dose of man coverage defense?


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[Assistant] No one knows the extent of the injury but Denzel and the Browns.


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[Assistant] And if I'm the Browns, I'm going forward with the game plan that he was fully healthy.


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[Assistant] I think this is a huge deal. If he doesn't play...


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[Assistant] I'm not so sure that I would even be picking the browns in this. Here's why.