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[Assistant] But he's through 30 interceptions. He's changing the play call at the end of a game when a game is over to get a guy a touchdown where there's not a contract bonus involved, it's to get a guy's first touchdown. So of course your teammates are gonna like him.


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[Assistant] But from a team perspective, from a head coach, front office, can you trust this guy if you need him? I don't know. I would have preferred Jacobi Brissette. I have zero problem with that. I would have preferred Jacobi Brissette. Clearly, Brissette wanted to go to New England. I think the Browns would have preferred Brissette. He chose New England. Fine. If you look at James' career,


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[Assistant] Could you imagine if he throw, if they bring Flacco back and just Sean throws two picks in the first half or three picks in the first half? Yea. It'd be people chanting for Flacco in the stadium. Jason. The Browns don't need


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[Assistant] The hope for me, the hope is maybe he can become a reliever. I think his days as a starter probably are gone as an effective starter, but you know, maybe he can come back and be a 1-2, maybe he can be a closer, a 1-2 inning guy type thing. His stuff was just... He's still only 23. And he was, I don't know if we talked about it,


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[Assistant] His arms, I almost wonder if he's too big. His arms are like that big around. He's got enormous biceps. It's a frame that you don't normally see on a pitcher. And I just kind of wonder if his weight lifting has sort of contributed to some of these shoulder problems that he keeps having.


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[Assistant] And 91 of those 110. 22, 23, and 24. It'll be 5 years. Right. And basically 4 of those 5 innings he didn't pitch.


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[Assistant] It's at least a second on the shoulder. I don't know.


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[Assistant] That's who they wanted. Well, it's easy to say that now. But what if they traded Gavin Williams in that deal, and then Espino goes down? Well, in the end,


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[Assistant] No, I didn't think you'd play last night, but I thought it was. So you thought it was close. Well yeah, we said the other day, within a week, right? I don't even remember you guys saying that. You said within a week.


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[Assistant] The question was that, was other day how they're playing right now. In that moment, that's what the lineup would be. Now, we got a month to see. We got a month for Darius and Donovan to play together and see how it looks. But, I mean, who are you taking off the floor? I guess, if you want to go big or small, off the five that I said, you take Dean off and you go small and put Darius on.


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[Assistant] You'd have Darius in instead of Dean Wade. I mean it. Or, Struus I guess. If you want Isaac, if you want to go defense. Right. In shooting. But they cannot.


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[Assistant] He's back really soon. I remember right when I wrote it, it was mid-March he was coming back. So it's right around now. I felt like the 17th or 18th he was eligible to come back.


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[Assistant] I mean this is what happens when your star comes back and you inject some life into energy into a team that was scuffled a little bit and they needed it. They had some really good wins without them, some really good wins without them, and they had some clunkers without them, so.


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[Assistant] High tide raises all boats and Donovan came back and the level of play of everyone else increased and improved. Mike, what's their upcoming schedule the next few


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[Assistant] Uh, it was one night. Good game, but I'm not counting on him in the playoffs for anything. He can't.


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[Assistant] That's why I said earlier, high tide raises all boats and that was, that felt like a prime example of even though he wasn't at his best.


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[Assistant] Just having them out there injects a little bit of life and some energy into this team and we know how much they've come to rely on them.


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[Assistant] And I've said thousands of times, you can't always rely on him, but last night was...


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[Assistant] It doesn't mean you can't ever rely on him. And last night felt like a moment where he just really provided some energy and juice into a team that probably needed it.


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[Assistant] I don't want to see Miami. But Philly's also lingering there at 6. Yea, Philly's tied with Indiana, by the way. So they're all close. We're not going to know who they're going to play, probably.


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[Assistant] No, and, and, that's quite a slide, because they're, I mean. The Cavs are in no position to, to like, be cocky about what, what spot they're gonna be in, that's crazy. I mean, the, the teams down there, that's why the East is so hard right now, because of all the teams.


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[Assistant] Orlando, you'd feel good about that matchup. Indiana, you'd feel good about that matchup. Although Indiana can score. They're fast and they can score.


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[Assistant] But Miami, Philly, would you really feel good about playing either one of those in the first round?


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[Assistant] I wouldn't. Well listen, Bede's not playing. He'll be back. And Bede, he'll be back. He's definitely back? Yea, he'll be back.


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[Assistant] I think it's really important for this team to go for that 2-C. Yeaah. To have home court, catch the playing team, uh, and then would have home court in theory in the next round. Have home court all the way up to the conference finals. Even though they'd be


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[Assistant] I do think that they need to, they gotta get some guardrails on this. Why? Because, even when you go pro, you have a contract of two or three years, you can't just every year jump from school to school to school to school to school to school to school to school to school. You get three transfers. Why? Coaches can do it. But do they?


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[Assistant] No, no, no coach jumps. Yes, they do, but they don't do it year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year to year


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[Assistant] commitment in this or skin in this because it is the wild, wild west right now. And, and you're seeing it when coaches, when Saban retires, when a head coach leaves a sitting active head coaching spot to go be a coordinator somewhere else. That is wild.


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[Assistant] And this is coaches saying we can't, we can't do this system. And I don't know that necessarily that's all bad because I do think it was rigged in their favor for too long. But now it has swung the other way to the point where there has to be some sort of happy medium in this where you can't just jump from school to school to school to school to school.


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[Assistant] But they don't. Unless you do something pretty egregious.


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[Assistant] Could you limit it, cause it, they aren't the same but they're connected. The money and the transfer portal are connected. Could you, would you be opposed to you get one transfer?


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[Assistant] You're only there four years. You only have four years of eligibility. You get one transfer.


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[Assistant] Well, if you get 5 years, but I think they got six because of the COVID. That's you get one transfer and that's it. If you've screwed up, like everybody at 18, you make mistakes and you go to a place you shouldn't be. But if you go to a second place and you screw that up, that's on you, man. You get one shot to change schools and that's it.


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[Assistant] You guys, in a lot of jobs, you gotta sign a contract. I got a contract. I can't leave the athletic. You gotta sign a contract.


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[Assistant] And you get one chance. I'm just throwing it out there. I think you should, you get one transfer in this new world that we're in. And after that, I can be talked into


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[Assistant] Not enough. Although they're very clearly punning, they're taking the less neat approach of F them picks. It feels like. Yeaah. And I think they can make, I think they can bundle more of these picks. And there's more trades to come at the draft. There's more trades coming.


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[Assistant] I don't remember. I can't remember. It was before the draft, I think. Because Minnesota was in cap hell.


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[Assistant] So, that's true, so it probably had to happen earlier. Yeaah, I think it was earlier.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, man, just for the fact that you got a guy that the locker room already loves and embraced already, he's won games there, and if JaShawn went down, everybody would be comfortable.


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[Assistant] Nah, don't get me wrong, James Weston can, he can secure that type of...


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[Assistant] He gon' see to it that you get it. I mean, you remember the, the Falcons game. He decided to get his running back another touchdown. It's a cure bonus, so.


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[Assistant] That right there is a man of the people. Uhm, I'm okay with it. I mean, at the end of the day, I...


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[Assistant] I'm riding on number four having a really good season and being healthy anyways, but Jameis can be a guy that comes in there and gets the voice of the locker room. I tell you what, it does go back to my point about


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[Assistant] The ethnicity of the quarterback role in Oreo. Meaning what? He's black.


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco wants to be a starter, besides the Cleveland.


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[Assistant] They are committed to Deshaun Watson. That's just what it is. No matter what, they're gonna be committed. As long as number four is healthy, he's going out there. Over the course of a season, as we watch this past season, quarterbacks get hurt left and right. Who's the guy now, after performing the way that he's performed,


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[Assistant] Who's gonna be a phone call that these teams will make once their quarterback goes down? Joe Flacco. He just went out there and won Comeback Player of the Year. So I think they're really doing him a...


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[Assistant] Just surprised at the money. Maybe one of these is this situation is more so Joe wanted the Browns more than the Browns wanted Joe. That's exactly what it is. Because, you know, it went from, just listening to Joe over the course of this offseason. It went from, I wanna go to a place where I'ma start.


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[Assistant] Then it went to All Things Equal, I Would Love to Go Back to Cleveland. Then it just started going more towards Cleveland, like I want to go back to Cleveland type thing. I think that's what it was, but to be honest with you, he played some of his best, outside of the Ravens, he played his best ball with Kevin Stephenson.


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[Assistant] Not the little, the LASIK surgery, you know, it wasn't, he wasn't throwing him as bad as he was. He wasn't going 30 for 30 like he was in Tampa Bay. Right. But. That was crazy. It was. It's a real surprise. He was a great fantasy quarterback.


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[Assistant] Did your boy get picked up yet? DJ Reader.


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[Assistant] With this offense, if it's going to be a high passing offense.


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[Assistant] I think that he's here to, one, he's from Ohio, um, went to Lakota West. I'm an Ohio kid. I think that this move right here is to,


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[Assistant] Really helped J.L.K. take it to another level. Uhm, you need another veteran in there. Taki Taki was great, but he was a young guy. You know, he was still learning things. This guy played for Jim Schwartz. He's one with Jim Schwartz, so he knows exactly what Jim Schwartz want. I think this is his prob, this is probably his last league, and this is one of those moves that, I'm a young vet, but I'm here to,


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[Assistant] That's what his role will be to me, although he also can be productive. And I just think that's why this move, why they went with this move.


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[Assistant] Well, the last one I seen get big money, took his team to the, what, AFC title game? Roquan Smith?


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[Assistant] RG3, Baker, Jameis, Johnny Manziel. Anyways, Zedarius Smith, what I like about him, although Zedarius Smith wasn't productive from the stats standpoints last year,


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[Assistant] Miles had one of his best years. What I liked about Zadarius when they got Zadarius is that


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[Assistant] He changed Miles Garrett's, from a maturity standpoint. You know, Miles Garrett was running around Berea, like, I'm that guy, you know, I'm that, like, who's gonna tell me what to do? Zadarius did, you know, remember, it was a drill that they did, it was a get-off drill or something like that, and Miles kinda did it lazy, he said, get back down there, we gonna do it again, like that type of thing.


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[Assistant] He challenged Miles. Miles in his mind thought, I gotta get to the ball because the Darius Smith is good enough to get there. So it actually turned Miles up a little bit more.


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[Assistant] That is something that you hadn't seen in the Browns organization since Miles has been here. So I think that's where his value was, just from a leadership standpoint. Uhm, I think that he can be productive. I mean, he had some moments where, you know, he was good against the Russian attack. I think the sack numbers will come.


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[Assistant] is more productive in that system. So I'm, I'm guessing they look at Darius and see what he brings to the table. His physical attributes, the fact that he could play inside and outside, you can, you could have a full pass rush defense align with him in the inside. I think his versatility is why they say, you know what, let's just run it back one more time.


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[Assistant] We ain't doing, listen, you did that with Desha, you just watched Russell Wilson do it. There's NFL, you should not extend the player before you, before he steps foot on the field and see what he does. Even though, as a former player, I would say we are welcome to sign an extension before we play, just to let you know that.


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[Assistant] I just think that when you look at Judy, it's funny. You go get a guy that's from South Florida, you go get a guy from Alabama who runs really good routes. To me, I think that they brought Judy in here.


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[Assistant] Get this guy ready. Teach him how to win with the Cleveland Browns. Teach him what you do, what you look for on the field. Get him ready. He has all the talent. He's arguably one of the best route runners since you left Alabama.


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[Assistant] Get this guy prepared for us. Can you please do us that favor? And I think that if he can do that, then they'll reward him with the money because essentially he's just replacing the money.


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[Assistant] Listen, when you look at, listen, I mean, let's look at this for what it is. Yeah. Obviously they're transitioning more to a passing offense. And you want guys in there, I think that he's going to be the returner though, you know, to try to get Jerome Ford out. But I had a question.


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[Assistant] I get it. I wanted Agnew. I wanted a dynamic returner. I wanted a guy that when he's back there it's like, cause we haven't had it, Special T's haven't had a good returner in I don't know how long.


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[Assistant] I understand that, but it's different. It's different. Listen, I've been in Specialties Meetings. It's different coming into those Specialties Meetings when you say, that's the returner.


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[Assistant] This is, this guy's dangerous. We gotta make sure we get, like, Agnew is like that. Like, he's gonna return it. And I just feel like that's the, like, when you...


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[Assistant] When you get to these rosters and you get to the, to the, close to the end of the season, you gotta find a way to have an advantage over something. And part returners set you up or you get a returner that can take like that.


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[Assistant] Agnew was a rookie, I didn't think he would be good. Yeaah. Cause he played for the Lions, and I played for the Colts. And we did a joint practice. You thought he was just slappy. And I went against him, he was a gunner, I was a, I was a hold up. Okay.


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[Assistant] What is a hold up for those who don't know? I was a jammer, I was an inside jammer. So you know, when you do a vice, you know, the gunner got the two dudes, I was the inside piece. Okay. And I was sitting there, this is my second year in the league. I was wooo.


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[Assistant] I tell you what, I started seeing some of them deals. Somebody went for seven million, one year seven. Oh, it was Aaron Jones. I see it. To Minnesota.


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[Assistant] I thought the day was gonna, I thought for sure it would be an edge. I would've liked Christian Wilkins. Yea. But I, I mean I still would like him, but.


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[Assistant] Just Zedarius Smith can get those things done. At the end of the day, he can still hold an edge down. But Mohurst, I like Mohurst in the rotation, especially if they're going to continue to rotate these two defensive interior guys. I think him with his production that he can have.


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[Assistant] No, for a guy that doesn't have to be in every time, you know, you can, he's rotating like every two or three plays. It keeps his body fresh. He can always be a hundred percent when he goes out there and he gives you something like it. And clearly the Browns love him. I mean, when he went, they, they cut him.


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[Assistant] He decided not to even sign nowhere else, just to come back to the Browns after the, uh, after the initial 53 because you, you know that rule. If you're the initial 53 and you get cut as a vet, you still get your salary, so they cut you and bring you out.


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[Assistant] As a DB, you appreciate those type of things. So I was shocked to see him go because I thought he still has so much room to grow. You know, this would have been year two in Jim Swartz. He's already adapted that attitude of Jim Swartz. I wanted to see how much more, how much better he could have gotten. So that one shocks me the most. Uhm, Mike Ford.


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[Assistant] I know what they tell you, if you like an undraft or on the fence, all the vets will be like, hey, you in this training room, you better make the club in the tub, you better get out on that field. That's really good.


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[Assistant] And they finally put him in a mic and he started making plays. But the thing about him...


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[Assistant] What I don't know about Taki Taki, all that stuff is great, all the numbers is great. But at the end of the day, you need a leader.


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[Assistant] They were all like, it doesn't matter because it's like the next guy's already been groomed, so they're comfortable with the next guy going in there.


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[Assistant] Alongside of J.O.K., you got two athletes out there. Yeaah. I might not like it, but I don't care. They got two athletes out there. J.O.K. has showed you what he can do, and if he can get some of that, Jerome Ford is, I mean Jerome Baker is pretty much essentially the same kind of guy.


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[Assistant] Think he could be special, and he'll do it because he's from Cleveland. So, you know, he wants to see Cleveland succeed, so he put his body on the line just to see Cleveland succeed.


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[Assistant] Yes. From what they have, right? I think he's in a-


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[Assistant] His move to the Pittsburgh Steelers puts him back in the killer category. First of all, I don't know what it is about him, but he always goes to a team with a really good defense.


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[Assistant] Has all four teams from one division made the playoff?


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[Assistant] The biggest thing they did still in the past two years was the Jim Schwartz hiring, changing the attitude, the way they look at teams, the way they view teams, the toughness that's happened over there. That's been the one thing that I felt like been missing. That toughness and that attitude has taken them further.


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[Assistant] So DJ Reader is definitely the number one guy. Now if you want to get crazy and you want to do some wild stuff, uh, a guy that you can get.


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[Assistant] I don't know how much his price tag is. I don't think it would be much. If you want to get crazy, Jason, nah, this is crazy. Hey, I root for chaos. Okay, you can trade Greg Newsome for as high as the suitor he can be, and you can go sign a guy like Jordan Lewis from Dallas, who's a nickel by heart, who's really been productive in the nickel business.


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[Assistant] And I don't think he will demand that much if you want to do like a one or two year deal. Wow. That's just some crazy mistalk. So shout out to Jay Lou.


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[Assistant] There'll be some type of big splash, cause I feel like AB, like the Judy thing was a


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[Assistant] Are, are, are those, are those considered like big names though, like?


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[Assistant] Back in the day, I would be worried. But now with the new Browns and the new Addison, they played the Titans last year. He did nothing. He had nothing in that game.


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[Assistant] The Steelers just draft well, like they always get the right draft picks. They haven't been as good in recent years.


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[Assistant] All they, listen, right now they only concerns is an offensive line and a corner opposite of Joey Porter Jordan. They get those two things, they just as good as any team in the NFL.


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[Assistant] He's one in four in the playoffs and he lost to the Giants in the first round.


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[Assistant] Tennessee, you got a young quarterback in Will Helevis. Washington, Washington, you got nothing. And Zach Moss, he got about what you thought the quarterback would do.


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[Assistant] I mean, I look, I always look at, when I see running backs go, I look at who the quarterback is. If they got a quarterback that's Patrick Holmes, he don't need.


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[Assistant] Who would you think, like, who needs a number two right now?


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[Assistant] Oh, uh, CJ and, uh, Strout, yeaah. Okay, I guess that wouldn't, they wouldn't, I don't know if they would've, nah, cause the Falcons picked lads lower than that, and they took Bijon at like seven, so they wouldn't have. Yeah, they wouldn't have been.


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[Assistant] Now Carolina, that's different. Carolina probably should have made the trade.


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[Assistant] I think his strategy was, let me, what you gotta do is you gotta block out the doors. You gotta really access your own team. You can't listen to the outside noise. You look at your team and you say,


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[Assistant] What was it, what out there is this, does this team need to get me to the next step? Because we were a really good football team. We overcame a ton of injuries last year. We were so close.


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[Assistant] I used to be very critical of him up until last season. Last season, between him and Kevin Sofanski, what they did...


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[Assistant] Uh, GM about how he builds his roster. Everybody looks at, you know, just the top guys. I look at the guys that's maybe second and third team because what you don't think, what you don't realize is injuries is a part of this game. That next guy that fills in, do we notice that that guy is there?


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[Assistant] We didn't really notice that. In a lot of cases we did. And that is a good GM that can go see talent. Maybe he's not a starter right now, but he gets behind some guys, he gets in this building, he learns some stuff from some of these players.


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[Assistant] He can develop into a guy that we can use later on if this guy goes down. So I think they built their roster in such a way that I don't really question what he does, because like I said, he had such a good year. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.


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[Assistant] Eric Henry and the Ravens. You know what though? You know what I, about this, you know what I like? Well, I don't like that. That's crazy. But it does make you think about, do you touch the tackle more now?


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[Assistant] Q about knocked the fan out in the stands when he was with the CR. Wasn't he with the Jets or the Giants last year?


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[Assistant] Rayquan Davis, Jonathan Hankins. Babyface! I know Jonathan Hankins! And one more name!


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[Assistant] That boy did him dirty. That coach went out there.


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[Assistant] Well I guess that's, that's the new thing though. You just get a bunch of talent and put it on your team and receive it or so and then you find out if your quarterback is good. Jalen Hurts did it, Tua did it, the Lions did it.


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[Assistant] That's like the new thing. Get a bunch of help. And if the quarterback can't get it done, you know it's done. That's what the Falcons just did. Right. Essentially.


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[Assistant] The fight is defense is still, I just don't, who, Jesse Bates, who else is over there?


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[Assistant] I dunno. What's the corner? They got the really good corner. He's actually really good.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, AJ Terrell. But like, who else do they? What about Pass Rush, Linebackers?


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[Assistant] I mentioned it earlier, but. Kirk just did the same. He went back to Minnesota again, technically.


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[Assistant] Aren't they supposed, aren't they drafting the quarterback? Who's the top three, oh it's the Patriots.


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[Assistant] You gotta take the best player. You take one of those three positions. Best player. One of those three positions.


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[Assistant] They let the sons come back and I just, the sons got three superstars. I mean come on, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beale was back. Like it's hard to overcome that. I thought they tried to do enough.


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[Assistant] It got real close in the end but at the end of the day those superstars took over the game and you just don't have enough firepower for that without Deep Mitch right now.


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[Assistant] I mean, I literally used to fight, like bro, he was the best player. Like how I talk about Giannis is how I used to talk about Kevin Durant.


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[Assistant] I don't know, let's see, if you had to match up, the seeds matter because you could dictate Orlando or playing the 76ers with Joel LeBee coming back. I don't know if he's coming back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, let's get into some topics today. We're gonna start with this question. We saw Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] Who had different comeback stories of their own rights. So the Browns entering 2024 have two players coming off catastrophic injuries. Sean Watson missed them.


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[Assistant] I guess 11 games with a shoulder injury. Nick Chubb got injured in week two. So between Nick Chubb and Deshaun Watson, which of these two Browns players has the better chance to win the 2024 NFL Comeback Player of the Year entering this new season? Who wants to start us off?


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[Assistant] We're gonna move on, talk a little Cavs, and if you wanna see the Cavs in person,


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[Assistant] They had to Detroit tonight for a game against the Pistons before then coming back to Cleveland for a.


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[Assistant] Two games and three nights match up with the Knicks and then the Celtics, so...


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[Assistant] But what do you guys need to see from this Cleveland Cavaliers team to erase what happened from your mind on Wednesday night and get them ready for a test coming up against two of the Eastern Conference's top, uh, contenders?


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[Assistant] He's fifth in the league in rebound. And every time these teams have played this season, by the way, the Cavs have won all three games. They won by eight in the first matchup, by nine in the second matchup, and seven in the third matchup. But two of those three games were way closer than the final score actually ended up being.


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[Assistant] Can I mention one thing real quick? Yes. I just want to tell everyone out there, and I'll speak to you here, Jay, but I know you have a similar mindset as a lot of the fans. Do not get confused by regular season basketball as opposed to the needs of a team in a postseason series.


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[Assistant] Do you know what their record in mobility's first 8 games back were? 8-0.


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[Assistant] Uh, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. There's six and four in the last ten. Correct.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't say Orlando and Philadelphia, who they lost without Mitchell are horrible teams. I mean, they're both playoff teams right now.


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[Assistant] I don't disagree in premise. I'm just saying what Darius brings to this team in a postseason series is different than what Darius brings.


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[Assistant] Here are things I think you can legitimately hold against Darius and he has not played up to the level you expect him to play at this season. So anyone who wants to criticize Darius, these are some stats you can point to, to maybe why he hasn't been as good. Now this was from Tuesday. The numbers may be slightly different. It's been two games since, but bear with me.


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[Assistant] On catch and shoot threes, which is what he has to make in a two guard set.


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[Assistant] He's shooting 31.9% this season. Okay. A career low. He shot 44% on catch and shoot threes last season. If you're gonna play two undersized guards, they both have to be able to make shots when the other drives kicks out. 32% from Darius Garland is not good enough.


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[Assistant] Point blank period, he made seven threes against Chicago. For the season, he's shooting a career-worst 33% from three. In terms of usage, his usage is about the same rate it was when he was an all-star. His turnover percentage and turnover rate, slightly up. Can't have Darius Garland turn the ball over. That's fair criticism.


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[Assistant] When you average out how much, it's the, the turnover percentage is based off usage rate, so his usage rate is down, his turnovers are slightly up, so the percentage is up, but the actual...


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[Assistant] Numbers are essentially the same. Okay. So it's slightly up. But here's the other one. And gee, this is what I bet you're gonna get at.


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[Assistant] Assists are a weird stat because you have to make a shot to get an assist. So you can make a bunch of great passes, everyone misses, okay, you don't get the numbers. This is a potential assist per game. So passes to open shots, total numbers.


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[Assistant] In 2021, his sophomore season, 11.4. In 2022, his all star season, 15.6. In 2023, last season, his first with Donovan Mitchell, 12.9. This season, 2024, the lowest of his career, 11.2. What does that tell you?


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[Assistant] He's not being as aggressive as he needs to be. Exactly right. And he's being hesitant in decisions. So gee, there are a lot of fair criticisms of Darius Garland. He has not lived up to the level of play the Cavs need him to be at.


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[Assistant] But the whole idea that they're not better without Darius, that's where I kind of push back. I still think what he brings is necessary and non- They don't have anyone else who can necessarily do that, but he has not played to the level the Cavs need him to play at this season.


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[Assistant] Well, who are you replacing Garland with then? So in a situation where they're playing, we'll pick a team, Knicks, just for example, in a playoff series. And like they did last year, they blitzed Donovan on a pick and roll, forced them to give up and give it to someone else and play four out of three. Who would you rather have in that spot than Darius?


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[Assistant] And that's valid. I just don't think you're getting the return for Garland. I think you think you're getting. Why not?


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[Assistant] He's an undersized, often injured, highly paid middle of the pack point guard.


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[Assistant] I mean he's a piece, but I mean me and G have talked about this. Darius Garland is a top 13 point guard in the NBA.


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[Assistant] I mean, once again, if it's a stand, stand alone shot, yeah, Merrill's going to make it, but when they blitz Mitchell up top.


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[Assistant] You trust Merida go four on three as the lead ballhandler in that situation, G?


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[Assistant] It's an imperfect science, they, in a perfect world.


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[Assistant] Darius Garland at his 2022 or even last season level, 44% catch and shoot from three, 13 potential assists per game.


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[Assistant] One last thing, we'll go to True and False, and I don't want to take anything away from 18 and 2.


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[Assistant] Oh, they boat-raced. I mean, they beat in back-to-back games. They beat Washington by 39. The very next night, they beat Washington by 34. They beat the Nets by 20, the Bulls by 25, the Bucks by 40, the Hawks by 20, the Magic by 30.


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[Assistant] Very, very last point then we'll get to true and false. Whatever you feel about the Cavs now, good, bad, and different, you're gonna feel a different way in about 21 days. Yeah. You'll either be much stronger in your assertion this team's strong, or you'll be like, damn, I was wrong, this team's really good. We're gonna learn for sure the next one. We're gonna know.


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[Assistant] Steve, hit the music. It's time for True or False, Isaac Okoro edition.


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[Assistant] He's a restricted free agent, so they can match. I mean, they could, they can match any offer he gets, but there's a chance a team gives him a five year, $80 million contract.


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[Assistant] I'll save it for the end. Alright, first question, true or false, Isaac Icaro. Icaro was a consensus, five-star recruit coming out of high school. True or false?


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[Assistant] Isaac Okuro and fellow Cavs guard Sharif Cooper.


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[Assistant] Our teammates now in Cleveland, they were also high school teammates in Georgia.


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[Assistant] They were also the number one overall ranked team in the country and won the Max Preps National Championship that year. Really? Alright, next up. Isaac Okuro was the first Auburn Tiger to make the all-MBA rookie team since Charles Barkley.


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[Assistant] Gee Bush says true. Tyvis says true. Jay says false.


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[Assistant] The answer's false. There have been four between Charles Barkley and Isaac Okur. You ready for this? Names. Chris Morris in 1989. Chuck Pearson in 1987. Wesley Pearson in 1995. And Marquise Daniels in 2004.


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[Assistant] J says false, G says true, J says they think they got silver, J.


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[Assistant] Isaac's older brother, Jonathan, has been the lead piano player on two different Justin Bieber singles. Excuse the double period, Anthony, I'm not sure why you put two periods there. Two periods for each single, one for each.


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[Assistant] Lebron and Kyrie. It's either all true or all false, by the way.


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[Assistant] Isaac Okuro's career high in the NBA is 28 points.


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[Assistant] And a lot of emojis, so shout out to you for that. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Brawdy's bottom line says, I'm more worried about JB than Darius and he wants us to stop talking about the Knicks. They might be in the play-in with all those injuries without Randall. The Cavs will smoke them in five.


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[Assistant] Of the 10 best college quarterbacks since the year 2000, here's their list. I want to spend more time on this, but we'll do it quickly. And if it's contentious, we may come back to it next week.


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[Assistant] Their top five quarterbacks since the year 2000. Number one, Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Number two, Cam Newton, number three, Vince Young, number four, Tim Tebow, and Joe Burrow comes in at number five. At number six, they have Deshaun Watson, Kyler Murray at seven, Lamar Jackson at eight, Marcus Mariota at nine, and Robert Griffin the third at 10.


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[Assistant] Alright, so let's say it's a great game, but for the sake of this, because we have five minutes.


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[Assistant] See, it's interesting, and they didn't give context, and to me it felt weird that...


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[Assistant] Dashawn at 6 on this list. Fair, too high, too low, about right.


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[Assistant] If you're gonna give him credit, and he deserves to be on this list, I agree 100%, I think his one season might be the best individual season I've ever seen from a quarterback. Him and Burrow.


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[Assistant] Did you realize, I was making, uh, Steve take 203 real quick. I thought his stats were way better than they were. I mean, different era, granted different era.


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[Assistant] Well, I got a question, but this was actually the first Cleveland sporting event that I specifically knew where I was because I just got hired. Right. And it was just me and Steve Becker. This show wasn't a, it didn't have a name. I'm still living in Texas. I never met Earl, Anthony, any of you guys. I remember calling Steve Becker that night and being like,


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[Assistant] We got to start the show now. Like I don't know who makes the YouTube channel. I don't know how we get this up. I know it's hired like 12 hours ago, but like we need to be on air now talking about this. And since then, you know, that was really the, essentially the start of UCSS in a different route. The question I wanted to ask though. So Tyvis.


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[Assistant] Jason told us where he was. He almost ran off the road. All was on the air. We have visual and audio proof of where he was. Where were you when the trade went down? What was your initial reaction?


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[Assistant] Well that's the, that's the question I want to ask here before we move on to some Jameis Winston, some Stefan Diggs rumors and the Browns working out another edge rusher, but.


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[Assistant] Bull, going off your audio, which I heard for the first time this morning, you said at the end, the Browns have a franchise quarterback that can compete with anybody in the AFC now. Right. I'm assuming by taking those words, you meant the expectation was deep playoff success if not a Super Bowl, correct?


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[Assistant] So two years in, what would you consider success in trading? How has it changed in two years since the aftermath of making the trade to now and what you view you personally as success?


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[Assistant] The Browns and Jamis Winston agreed to terms on a contract last week. They've announced most of the signings for the other free agents they've signed so far, but we haven't seen an official announcement on Jamis Winston yet from the Browns. It could be absolutely nothing. Could be something more. I'm just curious if you guys think there's anything more to the reason we haven't heard.


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[Assistant] From the Browns on why Jameis Winston hasn't officially signed his deal yet.


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[Assistant] Alright, easy money, we'll move on. In other news, Stephon Diggs, the Buffalo Bills wide receivers, put out a couple cryptic tweets over the weekend. Uh, let's say Tagboard Fold. Here's the first one.


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[Assistant] Was just a simple heart emoji. This comes after Buffalo's let go of a bunch of their higher priced players to try and create some cap space. His next tweet said, ready for whatever. And last but not least, Ant.


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[Assistant] Just a simple well, dot, dot, dot, dot. Oh, I lied. There's one more.


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[Assistant] And lastly, God, I trust you. So this led to some speculation that Stefan Diggs could be on the move. I know G. Bush put out a video on the UCSS channel, I think it was last week, saying sources Browns could be interested in Stefan Diggs if he was available because of his history with Ken Dorsey. Well, it turns out the source on that story was Tyvis Powell.


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[Assistant] Go ahead. In 2020, 166 targets. 2021, 164 targets. In 2022, he played one fewer game, 154 targets. In 2023, played all 17, back up to 160.


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[Assistant] Dick's contract is also a man. Yea, his contract's a disaster. Yea. I mean, his base, not his cap, his base salary is what the Browns would have to pay.


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[Assistant] Uh, we're going to move on to our next topic at five o'clock tonight. The ultimate cab show is back. Jason and myself breaking down a little more of the, uh, cabs win last night, previewing their upcoming games the rest of the week. And other than that, we haven't agreed upon the topic. So there's a, yeah, there are.


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[Assistant] It'll be a good show no matter what. That's coming up at 5. Make sure you check out the Ultimate 216 show with Earl on Thursday. The Ultimate Guardian show starting on March 25th with you. That's Monday. It's coming Monday.


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[Assistant] And then the Ultimate Brown Show every Monday and Friday with G Bush as well. Uh, speaking of the Browns, they worked out Aaron Lynch yesterday, who hasn't played in the NFL since the year 2020, but it's been a relatively


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[Assistant] Defense events are already locked into their roster. Are you guys a little surprised at the trial as well?


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[Assistant] Ty, what do you remember about Aaron Lynch though? As a player, you obviously played with him in San Francisco.


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[Assistant] In his first two seasons in the league, he put up 12 and a half sacks, six as a rookie, six and a half in 2015 Tyvis. After that, his numbers kind of dropped off a bit. He tested very well at the combine. He's a guy from South Florida, but once again has not played since 2020. His last three seasons in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Hell, let's go last four seasons in the NFL. He has a combined seven sacks.


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[Assistant] Speaking of DPJ, talk about a guy who hit free agency at the wrong time. If he had hit free agency coming off his 2022 season entering 2023, he's getting a 15-20 million dollar contract. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] A guy that young coming off a season, with the tumultuous quarterback play. How many touchdowns he had that year? He only had three touchdowns. Psh, stop.


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[Assistant] Which by the way, if Washington was gonna pick Drake May with the second overall pick, they'd probably keep Sam Howell. So the fact they traded Sam to Seattle makes you feel like...


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[Assistant] I don't really love Daniels, I think when you're playing uh, with two of the best


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[Assistant] Uh, but Magano's had two of the best receivers in all college football throwing to this year, Brian Thomas and Malik Neighbors, who will both be first round picks, uh, which makes his life a lot easier. Drake May has potential, but he's really inconsistent.


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[Assistant] I have, they didn't even let him throw the ball in college. Like I don't, I don't even know how you truly evaluate what he is. But if, if you're offensive coordinators and trust you to throw a pass against Penn State in the second half, like what does that say about you? So.


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[Assistant] He's going to be a top five pick. Like he made the right choice to leave. Whether or not it pans out.


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[Assistant] Yes. Uh, Bull, he had played 37 games with the Sixers earlier this season.


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[Assistant] Last time he played according to pro basketball reference game log before last night was...


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[Assistant] No, so one of the more, and I don't know which one I looked at at the end, but one of the Morris's got like a little tuffle with Jokic and then on a jump ball or a pass that was in the air, Jokic pushed one of the Morris brothers in the back.


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[Assistant] And then the other Moors, then the whole team kind of went after him and that's when Jokic's brothers were in the stands. That's when they got their viral moment. Uhm, I'll see if I can find it on the tag board for you guys, hold on.


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[Assistant] And the first two were wide open. You know, you expect him to make those. He's a capable shooter, but the two in the fourth quarter, he stepped in.


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[Assistant] The one in the left corner, there's a hand right in his face and the one in the right corner, that's a well designed and executed play for a guy who's been with the team for like 48 hours.


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[Assistant] Well, he's, he's a result, his offense is a result of Donovan, Darius and other guys creating for him. So when they have no Donovan and less creation, he doesn't have the same space to work with. But the Darius thing,


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[Assistant] You know, I do think his inability to get to the paint at the same rate he had previously is a factor of him just being 10 pounds lighter. The game's being called more, or, rest are allowing more physicality. That doesn't play into his game. Uh, but he's just having a bad shooting year and you can't compare him to LeBron Tyvis. Like, come on. Come on. Just cause LeBron never had a bad year.


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[Assistant] I mean it's... Baseball is definitely the most variant.


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[Assistant] You know, a confidence is part of it. He just hasn't had the same shooting success as he's had in previous years, especially from deep his numbers. You look at his career, three point shooting percentages, a rookie, 36% second year, 40% next year, 38 and a half next year, 41 is at 37 and a half. So it's right in the same range. It just, he goes.


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[Assistant] It's incredible when he makes shots like that. He's one of the most fun players to watch in the entire NBA. And then the very next game, he could put up a performance like we saw last night where you have Karris Levert.


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[Assistant] There's only a handful of guys that can do some of the stuff DG can do. Which is why when he goes for 12 points on one of nine shootings, and he's not really as effective as he should be down the stretch, you're like, come on, we expect more because you are that talented.


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[Assistant] There are definitely people out there who think that. Right? Yeaah, that's not us.


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[Assistant] No, they're the other anomaly to the you need a superstar to win a championship.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they also had Duncan. Now you can start developing guys around Wemby and we'll see if he still doesn't touch. Alright. Trying to do it when you have nobody. Popovich gets a pass.


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[Assistant] How confident are you that we'll see the elite 8's version of Shane Bieber in 2024 as opposed to the not so great Shane Bieber we saw in 2023?


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[Assistant] It should be the louder. It's not gonna be, but it should be. He's not gonna make the team either.


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[Assistant] He's played a hundred, yeaah, he has a hundred, uh, excuse me, he has one thousand seven hundred and sixty at bats. Six home runs.


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[Assistant] Speaking of steroids real quick, so Tristan Thompson came back and he broke Donovan's nose in his first game back, which we haven't even talked about. He's dealing with the knee issue and he'll play with his broken nose. Yeah. But Tristan Thompson broke Donovan's nose. It was Roy Rage is what you're saying? No, it's not. It just, it's funny. He comes back his first game. He has a, uh, it's completely incidental. How do you know it's not


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[Assistant] Are you guys ready to play a little round of what's more likely to wrap up today's show?


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[Assistant] Alright. There you go. So if you want to be part of that. Alright, we got a new game. It's not a new game, it's just a round of what's more likely.


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[Assistant] You played it before, you guys know how it works. I give you two options, you tell me what's more likely. Some of these are straight team to team, player to player, others are little cross sports.


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[Assistant] No, it's a little cross sports. There's some basketball, baseball cross. There's some that are just football, but there are six of these and you know how it works. I'll give you two options. You tell me what's more likely.


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[Assistant] Let's start with the first one. What's more likely in 2024? If Shawn Watson throws for 34 touchdowns or fewer than 10.


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[Assistant] 34 would be second most in the NFL in 2023. 10 is obviously fewer than 10.


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[Assistant] No. Who led Lee? No, second. Uh, Josh Allen. Josh Allen, right.


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[Assistant] Second in touchdown passes last season with 33 was Jordan Love. Really? And Brock Purdy at 31. Jared Goff at 30.


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[Assistant] And Dak Prescott had 36, Josh Allen only had 29. Oh.


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[Assistant] Are you going with the under 10 bull?


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[Assistant] Alright, there's 14 NBA games left for the Cavs before the end of the regular season. So these two options are before the start of the postseason.


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[Assistant] So this is in one of the next 14 games.


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[Assistant] No, it was against Phoenix two years ago. Oh wow. Garland nine threes.


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[Assistant] Also, twenty different occurrences. Some players have done it twice, like Steph, but twenty different times this season, a player's hit nine threes in the game. At least nine threes.


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[Assistant] Sam Houser hit 10 threes over the weekend.


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[Assistant] Alright, next! Alright, boy you'll like this one, this is the Bull Special.


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[Assistant] Well, the Guardian starting outfield combined for 45 or more home runs this season.


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[Assistant] Uh, Bull, you're gonna get a s- I love that. What are we gonna get? I'm gonna get you what? That's so mean.


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[Assistant] Alright, three more. This is the last specific sport one before we do two crossovers.


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[Assistant] What's more likely? What's more likely for Jerry Judy in 2024? 1100 yards?


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[Assistant] Jose Ramirez hits 44 home runs this season, or the Cavs win 10 games in the playoffs this year, which means make to the Eastern Conference Finals when at least two games.


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[Assistant] What number would that have to have been to make you think more than once? I tried going, it's four over his career high.


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[Assistant] His career high is 39 homers. I went 5 over that. That still wasn't enough.


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[Assistant] Okay, my favorite one. This is going to be the favorite one I've ever come up with.


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[Assistant] Uh, Dontavious also says Garland can't finish and his turnovers in the paint are bad.


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[Assistant] Mbine says, Darius had his jaw wired shut, lost a lot of weight. I think subconsciously he is very tentative about heavy contact for fear of injury.


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[Assistant] Uh, Casey Reach says the fact Trevor Bauer can't get a job is a joke.


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[Assistant] Rino's are renovations. So I think Blue Aqua was asking, well the renovations at Progressive Field affect the acoustics like the crack of the bat.


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[Assistant] So one of my buddies from Texas is the analytics guy for the A&M baseball team.


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[Assistant] O'Neil Cruz has five home runs of 110 miles an hour already.


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[Assistant] Uh, last super chat. Two. We got one from Reggie Globber.


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[Assistant] If Tivus goes out for the Browns, I will buy his jersey that day.


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[Assistant] And last one comes from Derek Parslow. What's more likely, Miles Straw hitting two home runs or Bull becoming RFK's junior vice president?


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[Assistant] That's it, yeaah. We got four minutes to kill. What do you wanna talk about?


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[Assistant] John Fanta just texted me and said that's the worst take you've ever had. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] Hey! Happy Monday! Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show viewers and fans, of which one of them is on an airplane right now coming back from Florida.


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[Assistant] The bullet just sent us a picture. He's on the plane.


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[Assistant] Getting ready to come back from Florida and he sent the selfie out of pocket. Our selfies in general out of pocket. Yeaah. In general they are, right? Yes.


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[Assistant] Oh, what have we become? Welcome, though. I hope everybody had a good weekend. Uh, before we start, I'm told Anthony wants to do a shout out. Is that true?


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[Assistant] Cause I tell you, uh, Anthony is pretty low key about it. Like he doesn't talk much about it, so you never know. So we're glad to hear that the relationship... Is this still the same girl, Aunt?


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[Assistant] Same girl, yea. Uh oh, do we hear wedding bells in the future? Put them on the spot. Next question.


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[Assistant] That, that's very fair. Alright. Well, for, for the sake of, uh, Miss Nuggets, uh, I hope you get your two-year contract and, uh, what's the holdup? Why can't we do that?


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[Assistant] A lengthy contract or more than a year that you get it.


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[Assistant] You deserve it. You guys have busted your tails. You built something here. Something that you guys should be proud of.


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[Assistant] That's fantastic. Man, if a guy ever needed a vacation, don't you think it was bull?


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[Assistant] Because like, he's just been, you know, first of all, changing jobs, a lot of people don't understand this. When you change jobs in a career like this,


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[Assistant] That's a big gamble. Uhm, so he did that. Then his wife was ill.


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[Assistant] And, you know, COVID and all the uncertainty and I think he said it Ben.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Cornell College student who said he's just going through the, uh, the breakup of a relationship or the end of a relationship. Those always can be traumatic. He's studying for his MCATS, I believe. He's gonna go to medical school. First of all, he must be very smart. His name is Connor.


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[Assistant] Connor, Connor, that was it. Uhm, and he asked that I share it with all you guys, and I'm pretty sure that I had everybody's email, so I sent it out. Director Steve, I don't know if, do you have a Tegna email?


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[Assistant] Okay, I couldn't find yours for some reason. Send it to Steve for me. Anyhow, this guy, uhm, really was just emailing to say thank you for being, like, a break from his day that he looks forward to every day. He talked about how he gets, how joy, uhm,


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[Assistant] Good. All right. Our th with them. And again, it's we hear from folks every us for just being here, ju and just for helping them of folks, this is their on sports. I heard from a g


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[Assistant] First fan from Montana that I'd heard from. He's in Montana, uhm, he's retired there. He's young. I don't know how he's so young and retired. Sounds like he's pretty well off, but he said that, uhm, he told me that


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[Assistant] Cleveland sports is part of how he defines himself. You know how people say, who are you? You say, well, I'm a father, I'm a husband, I'm a son, I'm a brother, I'm a friend, and then I do sports. That's how I describe myself. A lot of people, uhm,


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[Assistant] He said that in the first paragraph of how he describes himself is Cleveland sports fan and he watches us on the regular every single day. And uhm, so shout out to Ike.


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[Assistant] Bart maybe? In Montana? I can't remember. I think, I hope that's right. But thanks for watching. Thanks to all the folks that make us a habit every day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know you got strong feelings on it, so I'll let you go last because I read some of your tweets.


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[Assistant] Yes, they're soft. They were soft last year. They're soft now.


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[Assistant] The Knicks had a lot of guys that weren't in the box score.


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[Assistant] But there was one definitive thing that still showed up. And that was toughness. They're tough.


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[Assistant] Uh, they're mentally tough, they're physically tough. The pop chain to me, I don't care if you're friends before and after the game.


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[Assistant] Michael Jordan never had a friend for 48 minutes that wore a uniform that wasn't red and black. Never.


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[Assistant] If you go through and you look at the dynasties in the NBA.


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[Assistant] And you can go back to the Celtics and then the Lakers and the Pistons and the Bulls, most recently the Warriors.


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[Assistant] They've all got guys on there that if murder was legal, they would do it.


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[Assistant] But you have to find dog for 48 minutes every night. You have to.


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[Assistant] You can put a circle around that and you can put that in a time capsule. And when we talk about this Cavs team in 20 years from now, and we talk about all the talent,


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[Assistant] This clip of video would be the one thing that would say, and this is what kept them from being the best they could be.


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[Assistant] I understand they're friends. And he said after the game, I don't want to say what I said to him, but something in the route, in the effect of nice chain.


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[Assistant] There were 47 minutes and 55 seconds of clock last night that didn't include that shot. He chose to do it in that moment after that shot.


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[Assistant] Because he knew the game was over, and he was saying, we still own you.


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[Assistant] The Knicks captives, they own them, you're right, wreck free in their head. Right now, so the loss last night dropped the Cavs to the three seed. Correct. The Knicks currently sit in the four seed.


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[Assistant] It's unlikely that they'll finish four and five like they did last year. I can't see the Knicks trending that way, particularly because the injury.


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[Assistant] And I don't see that. Probably not gonna happen. Yeaah. And with the injury last night, not severe, they did the x-rays, they said it was just a knee contusion. Uhm, he's gonna be back in no time.


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[Assistant] They're not gonna slip to the 5. The Cavs may slip to the 4, and the Knicks may slip to the 3.


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[Assistant] But it all goes back to what, to our conversation, excuse me, our conversation about the calves over the last month have looked like this.


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[Assistant] This team is playing the best basketball they've played in the non-LeBron James era. And I don't know that anybody can dispute that. Go back to the 90's teams. Historically, they set records.


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[Assistant] During their 18 and 2 run, not just for their wins, but how badly they were beating teams.


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[Assistant] We've gone from the Cavs playing their best basketball in the history of their team without LeBron James on the roster to a team that is


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[Assistant] Yeah, I saw seven and six. Maybe there's seven and five in their last twelve.


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[Assistant] The line up. And sometimes the sum isn't, doesn't equal the, you know, the parts don't add up to the sum of the team.


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[Assistant] And this team is flawed. And the roster is flawed. And the other thing too is I lost a lot of excitement.


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[Assistant] And not just over one game, but when I watched the Celtics wring their hands around the Warriors last night. That's bad.


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[Assistant] Nobody's beating them, guys. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. You're all playing for Eastern Conference runner up this year. And I think you're playing for the NBA runner up. Because I think the Celtics are that good.


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[Assistant] It matches what we've said. When Mowgli was out and Allen was playing in his absence, the team had not looked better. They just didn't.


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[Assistant] Get something to build on for the future. He's this unicorn that's coming. Maybe he'll get here. Maybe he won't.


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[Assistant] But I'm, I'm in it for now because we might not have Spide after this year.


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[Assistant] That's a bad, that's bad enough on its own. Yeaah. I mean that, that right to your point of a team taking on its coaches personality, Tim's has always been that way. He's always demanded that his guys give that kind of effort. There's no slacking.


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[Assistant] For the right, for a potential home playoff game. You know, when you're playing a team for a tiebreak.


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[Assistant] You could be talking about the difference between being home or being on the road in a playoff series.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was an initial question and I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't debate that.


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[Assistant] I always say it, the one thing a box score doesn't measure, heart.


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[Assistant] Mike, this- We've been through eras in the league. We had a big man era. Right? We had a tough man era.


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[Assistant] We're, we're undeniably, undeniably, we are currently in the shooter's era. It's, and I don't know that we'll ever transition out of it again because of how punishing the three point goal is.


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[Assistant] You've got an assassin. You have a sniper and I'm really glad that you highlighted the fact that it's that one quick sidestep or that quick dribble to get free. He's in some cases he's shooting threes that you know are going in before it goes in because he's wide open.


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[Assistant] It's really impressive and here's my biggest fear. My biggest fear is the calves don't even understand what they have.


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[Assistant] Yet, now Mikey, I, I, I, we keep going back to it.


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[Assistant] We keep going back to it, but I'm going to go back to it again. You know how you make sure he's an integral part of this team?


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[Assistant] Again, I don't know what the answer is with Garland and Mobley. I don't. All I know is what my eyes told me.


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[Assistant] And my eyes told me that they were playing their best basketball of the year when those guys were in street clothes. Can't argue.


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[Assistant] So, I don't think you're wrong. I would like to see what the numbers tell us as well. I'll go back to the ratings that you gave us on Mobley Allen when they're in the games alone and when they're in the game together.


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[Assistant] And when I first brought up the idea of maybe you move one of these guys, maybe if you didn't learn from the stretch that of 18 and two that you can survive it. In fact, you may be even better without them.


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[Assistant] And getting pieces that you know you're gonna need once they're gone.


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[Assistant] And it doesn't, the, the max contract thing is absurd. It kills him. It kills him. It's just absurd. Nobody's gonna wanna swallow that because everybody else knows what he is too.


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[Assistant] Can he score? Yeaah. He's a better version of Colin Sexton.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Colin Sexton did, I think, have a little bit more physicality to this game.


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[Assistant] That's why I said before the deadline, you go to Mitchell and you have a serious conversation. Do you want to be here or not? Feet to the fire time. Here's an extension.


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[Assistant] We wanna, we don't wanna build this around you for a minute. We want this for a decade.


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[Assistant] If you commit to us, we commit to you that we're gonna make moves that will make this team a contender.


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[Assistant] They accidentally found out what their best team looks like, and now they've gone ahead and intentionally screwed that up.


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[Assistant] Well, wait a minute, wait a minute. Can it be both? They're not mutually exclusive.


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[Assistant] He clearly does. You're staring at me like they don't have a


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[Assistant] And look how close they came to beating the Lions. And the Lions are in that circle, that very small circle. If you want to say there's four teams that you can say are favorites. The Lions are in that. The Bucs damn near beat them in Detroit.


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[Assistant] If you flip, if you flip a coin. Put it this way, they came a hell of a lot closer to winning a second round playoff game than the Browns did to winning a wild card game.


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[Assistant] That basically said, my guy wants to go win a Super Bowl. He put the Bucs feet to the fire. You want him or not?


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[Assistant] I agree. It's not like they were 4-12 or 4-13 like everyone said. Remember, this team by most of the experts were picked to finish with five wins. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but the way, the way it played out and the way, you know, once they, they had a nice win in the playoffs against an Eagles team that pretty much self imploded, but was still.


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[Assistant] A team that could have won the Super Bowl just 12 months earlier and they defeated them handily. Then they went to Detroit. Few gave them a chance. They played right with the Lions and gave the Lions


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[Assistant] All they wanted. So I don't think they're very far away. And if you're judging things, well, is Cleveland closer? What hurt me about this is


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[Assistant] He basically, and I'm not saying it came down to the Browns and the Bucks because I don't think it did.


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[Assistant] He was choosing between Baker Mayfield and other quarterbacks as well, Deshaun Watson among them, and he chose Baker.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think the proper scenario, correct me if I'm wrong, would be if the Eagle or if the Giants were offering four years 70 and the Browns were offering four years and 70. Right. Because now you're apples to apples. Players are going to take the money.


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[Assistant] Thanks. And messing with the devil you know versus the devil you don't. Someone gave me wise advice. Don't F with happy.


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[Assistant] You throw big dollars at him. You throw Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson said no to Cleveland. Remember that? Remember? He said no to Cleveland and then they wrote a bigger check and he's like, Oh, you know what? Yeah, I can go to Cleveland.


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[Assistant] And, I don't, where was Jerry drafted?


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[Assistant] Those guys, like, you know, another one was Walter Payton. Walter Payton played at Jackson State and a lot of those guys can slip through the cracks. But when you have pedigree like that, I'm sorry, I don't see Rice going in the fourth or fifth round.


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[Assistant] That's what you have to do. You have to hit on a guy that slips to, because when you start talking about trade, you gotta ask about the currency that it's gonna take to get pieces. Now, is Gino a piece that you could move and potentially move up? Maybe.


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[Assistant] Here's how you know. Here's how you can tell, like the Browns said, we're not sure about David Bell. We're gonna keep him a little while longer. Here's how you know.


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[Assistant] Last year's offseason was the year of the D-Line. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Check. Move on to the next. This year's offseason has to be the year of the wide receiver. And I don't know where it's gonna come from. I don't know.


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[Assistant] See, here's my problem with that. It's the allocation of resources. You only have so many chips.


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[Assistant] That gives you fewer chips in the basket that we said is most needed this year, wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I looked at San Francisco and Philadelphia. Made moves in the last 10 months?


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[Assistant] That made me at the time say, oh, it's, it's now, it's now like New York Yankees five thirty million dollar contracts unfair.


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[Assistant] When the Eagles drafted how they drafted and got the best available, I said, oh, it's a wrap. They've got the best defensive line, maybe ever.


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[Assistant] And then when the Niners went out and made the trade for Chase Young, I'm like, it's over. It's, it's over.


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[Assistant] Neither of those teams won a Super Bowl. And they had a plethora of talent at that position. What did the Chiefs have? They had Miles Garrett. They had one monster.


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[Assistant] Exactly. And so I thought at the time, oh my god, the Eagles are playing chess here.


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[Assistant] They're just gonna make it impossible for opposing quarterbacks to have any success against them at all because they've got waves of talent and it's deep and it's all over. And then when the Niners got Chase Young, I said the same thing. I'm like, Patrick Mahomes doesn't stand a chance. I know that Patrick Mahomes is the centerpiece of the NFL, but


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[Assistant] The Eagles made moves that were supposed to trump that.


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[Assistant] And it didn't. So that tells me that although defensive end, or


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[Assistant] Guys that get after the quarterback have now, it's now become the second most important position in the NFL.


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[Assistant] But if we have to wonder about will it ever become number one, I think that last year's season was evidence that it won't.


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[Assistant] A great quarterback is still going to trump an unbelievably deep defensive line.


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[Assistant] So with that being said, we have the Chris Jones. We have the equivalent with the Browns.


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[Assistant] You put some nice pieces around him and that should be enough.


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[Assistant] What you have to do is, you have to have the elite quarterback.


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[Assistant] And how do you make really good quarterbacks better? Give them really good wide receivers. And so I think if you allocate too many receivers,


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[Assistant] To the defensive line position and adding Christian, cause look, this move would be exactly what the Niners and the Eagles did in the last 12 months. Exactly. Oh my god, they're doubling down on that position. I think that the answer is in the question.


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[Assistant] You can't overlook the importance of the offense in this, in this deal.


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[Assistant] And the Eagles and Niners made bets, and their bets were on defense, and they didn't get the trophy.


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[Assistant] So look, would I love him? Absolutely. But not at the expense of getting a Christian Wilkins equivalent at wide receiver.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. He's coming off winning. More so than restructuring Deshaun Watson's contract. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] How much time does he have left on his current deal? Okay, so what's the urgency?


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[Assistant] What is he gonna look like in four years? We've got him for three years. Hell, I gotta make sure that we, and I think Miles Garrett might even tell you this.


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[Assistant] Are you going to invest in him when he comes to you for the fourth business? Because I'm not.


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[Assistant] Track record has to come into play here. It does. And I had an NFL exec saying this is almost a verbatim quote.


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[Assistant] Whatever the Browns are doing in their analysis of wide receiver talent,


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[Assistant] It needs to change. They need to reevaluate it because it's not currently working. So let me say this. So I don't know that I want


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[Assistant] So you're not going to willy nilly give that away. It might work. It might not. It also might cause cancer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't happen typically unless you're Puka Nakua in the fifth round. Now, the funny thing is, when it comes to the Browns, if you took Amari Cooper off the roster, I know, right? And David and Joku,


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[Assistant] Off the roster. What would our pass catching room look like?


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[Assistant] And they're probably banking on that. And they're banking that he'll give something to the cause. But at this point, I like your operation stockpile.


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[Assistant] I, you know, I think that's the way you do it is, but you've gotta be big and strong at every position.


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[Assistant] Didn't like the room. So you've got to improve that position.


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[Assistant] You can always, you can look at trades in a vacuum and say, does this make sense? Just the fields to the right. No. But here's what you have to also include in that conversation.


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[Assistant] And the answer is yes. Who is in dire need of a quarterback in our division? There's only one team. Steelers? Yeah.


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[Assistant] So here's why I'll tell you not only don't trust reports, here's why I would tell you to


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[Assistant] Who does it serve for them to come out and say, oh, we gotta have Justin Fields. We need him. We have to have him.


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[Assistant] So you're gonna downplay your interest? Of course you're gonna downplay that interest. But last year, when it was obvious that they screwed up at that position with their last draft pick, it was obvious. What did we keep hearing? Steelers are gonna be interested in Justin Fields. Steelers are gonna be interested in Justin Fields. That was sneaking out from the compound.


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[Assistant] Then all of a sudden the compound who's very smart said, guys, whoever's telling this to the media, you're not helping us any.


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[Assistant] Of course it is. Yea, of course. The Pittsburgh Steelers report we have no interest in. I mean, it might as well said that.


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[Assistant] So I, and even if it's not the Steelers, are there other teams that need a quarterback more than the Browns? The Falcons make the most sense. I agree with you, by the way. I think that's his landing spot. I just do.


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[Assistant] Okay, I've been in these meetings. I've been inside ESPN. I know how this machine works. Get clicks. Yo, we looked at your clicks the last three months.


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[Assistant] You're in the 74th percentile of clicks amongst our writers. You need to be in the top 50 if we're gonna bring you back. So get clicks. And you know how they get clicks? Nonsense like this.


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[Assistant] It's easy. It's not the dumbest. I would not be willing to entertain it, but it's a lot closer to being the dumbest than it is to me considering this to strengthen my team. Look, they are so all in on Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] That they fired the figurehead offensive coordinator so they can bring in a new play caller to suit Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] To back up our richest, most expensive boat anchor around the team's neck on the, on the


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[Assistant] Cause look, if he had one year left on his contract, sure, bring him in for some competition.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but our, is, I don't know what the other backups make.


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[Assistant] What did Brissette make? 8? 8. He was a backup and he never even played. So would you pay 10 for the most?


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[Assistant] Justin Fields has really become a quandary to not just the Bears, but to the NFL.


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[Assistant] Because if you're in a spot where you're considering making a move for him,


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[Assistant] But if you're in a spot where you're considering making a move for them,


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[Assistant] You basically have a body of work that the team that has them doesn't even know if it's good enough to keep them. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Bro, bro, think about it. He almost beat the Browns.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I agree with that. And I don't know if it's generational because he's just as old as every other player that's coming out and he's part of the same generation as most of the players in the league. But I do, I do agree with your criticism of that age group. However, what I'll say about Caleb Williams is I watched his backup quarterback come in and throw six touchdown passes in a, in the, uh, in the bowl game. And here's what I know about, about that system. It produced Baker Mayfield,


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[Assistant] It produced Kyler Murray. It produced Jalen Hertz. It produced Caleb Williams.


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[Assistant] So, I, I don't know what Lincoln Riley's doing, I don't know what magic secret sauce he has, but he has something that the college football hasn't caught up with.


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[Assistant] It's nuts, man. I can't explain it, but to me, Caleb Williams is fool's gold and the team that drafts him, I think long-term, is gonna look like a fool. Just like Carolina looked like taking Bryce. I mean, oh my god.


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[Assistant] I mean it was real. You had, it was like a 50-50 split. Yea.


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[Assistant] And Ryan Leaf, and I know he had a lot of personal issues and I know he's confronted those demons and he's turned his life around. He's got a great book out if you want to read it. He's, he's, he's a success story in the long run. But his short NFL story was debacle. And Peyton Manning's was what it is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you're right, he is. He's definitely opened some eyes. He was a guy who was on the radar, but he was, I mean, it was more Brian Roquio. Yep. Was gonna be the guy that pushed. Uhm.


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[Assistant] And I think what we've seen is, sometimes it's funny.


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[Assistant] You think it's one thing and then you find out, how did we ever think that? It was clearly this.


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[Assistant] I think that there are real problems with


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[Assistant] Uh, with Gabriel Aris' game. His swing and miss rate, even if the Indians do, Guardians do decide to go.


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[Assistant] But I want to see more of Angel Martinez.


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[Assistant] And so, I don't know what's gonna happen there. I think that we're gonna see more of Angel Martinez throughout the season. So here's what my guess is what's gonna happen.


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[Assistant] My guess is, cause I never get too excited about success or lack of success in spring training. I just don't.


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[Assistant] Cause I watch a lot of the pictures and I'm like, I'm pretty sure I could get a hit off this guy.


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[Assistant] If he continues to be the guy that he was last year, and guy, look, we saw what Josh Naylor did when it came to hitting left handed hitting, or pitching. He just suddenly figured it out.


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[Assistant] Short of him figuring out how to put bat on ball more often, I think we'll see Angel Martinez at the big league level sometime this year.


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[Assistant] Listen, he's highly regarded. But like, if you're ranking short stops in the Guardians organization, he's probably at best third or fourth.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I, I, I, this one's tough because I just, I can't imagine that they're gonna cut bait on Gabriel Arias already.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he hasn't had a thousand at bats. I don't know how many at bats he had last year.


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[Assistant] No, I know, but he's not, I mean, Jose's got third nailed down and, you know, barring an injury to Jose, he's gonna play there every day. I don't think...


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[Assistant] It's really tough. I mean, we talked about the positions that we know they're looking at. We know they're looking at right field. They're likely looking at center field as well. But the, I think the toughest of all of them is shortstop.


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[Assistant] If you decide that it's not Arius, you have to be certain, because you have to move Arius then.


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[Assistant] It's not even about options, it's about your, your, what you're telling him.


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[Assistant] Well, not really, I mean a manager, but the general manager in the front office, the group that forms, that shapes this roster, has told him, you're next. So let me ask you this. And now you're telling him, you're getting leapfrogged by maybe two guys. So you're best off dealing him.


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[Assistant] Could you shift Jimenez to shortstop?


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[Assistant] Well, that's been discussed. That has been discussed.


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[Assistant] In the same breath that it was discussed in, I think it was Chris Antonetti, his quote was,


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[Assistant] Is it an option? Yeaah. But honestly, he's been so good for you at second base.


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[Assistant] You've got three guys that you're looking at. I think really the biggest question coming out of spring training is who's your shortstop. I do. I used to think it's who's your right fielder.


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[Assistant] But I don't know that, and that's still a question. I think Will Brennan is, you know, he had a little bit of pop. We saw him homered I think in his second spring training game. I don't think he's homered since. But I just think that right now shortstop is the biggest key. I do think that knowing historically how teams deal with these things, they're, they're cautious. And here's why. If you make a move,


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[Assistant] Then you almost have to clear him out of the organization. I don't want to send that guy down and tell him now you can win your job back. He's lost the job. If he's lost the job, you have to be sure that the guy you're giving it to is definitively better than him.


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[Assistant] You don't want to find out in May when Martinez is hitting $1.99.


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[Assistant] Damn, man. No, you can't be! Damn! You can't be sure!


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[Assistant] Someone will break the record. It will probably take 40 years.


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[Assistant] And the one thing that has to happen is the trend of players


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[Assistant] Load management concerns? Has to go away.


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[Assistant] The obvious comparison is Jordan to LeBron. When Jordan came out of North Carolina,


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[Assistant] This dude was on the cover of Sports Illustrated at 16, with the caption, The Chosen One. And if you think about it...