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[Assistant] He's definitely helped himself. That's been clear. You know, he's had a solid camp so far. If you, if you listen to people who's been following the team closely and the circumstances has created opportunity for him. So I definitely think he'll compete. But I think that when we look at the tight end group,


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[Assistant] To me, I think we have to just consider them all as just a pass catching unit. When you look at a guy like Atkins, I've heard Mary Kay talk about that this is a, this is a tight end.


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[Assistant] Who kind of lines up at wide receiver a lot. A guy that can play like a wide receiver. We know where David Njoku is. We know where Harrison Bryant is. So I do think it'll be opportunities there for Cedric Tillman, but I do think just the pass catching unit as a whole, I think that he has a lot of, a lot of weapons to throw to. So uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, Cedric Tillman could, I felt like they drafted him to be Donovan Peoples Jones replacement. Possibly. You know, that could be very true. I think when he was drafted, we all said that.


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[Assistant] And so just knowing that, just, just to see him get out there, you know, and be able to do his thing. I know he, he made a pretty good highlight play, uh, the first day back in Berea the other day that made fans go crazy. So it'd be interesting. A guy like Anthony Schwartz, you know, boy, I know you say like if a guy goes crazy, you know, you have to understand the competition that's out there, but you can only play who's put in front of you.


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[Assistant] We've seen other guys for the Cleveland Browns in the past that used the preseason to make this roster and then we've seen them actually have some success. It wasn't much, but a guy like I was Isaiah Crowell, you know, who, who, who, who bought his ass off in the preseason or Josh Chris, for example, way back when. So you got to play who's in front of you.


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[Assistant] And just take advantages of the opportunity. A guy like Anthony Schwartz, I think he needs this. You know, Jason, you said he'll probably be out there starting. Maybe it's him and Cedric Tillman starting. I don't know if Donovan Peoples-Jones is going to play or not, but so if it's, if it's him and Tillman, you know, those two young men got an opportunity to just, just show the coaches and the scouts and the Andrew Barry something.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, I would listen to the radio and I would listen to different college scouts.


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[Assistant] And a lot of people have first round grades on him, or at minimum, early second round grade. But I think like, he got hurt, you know what I mean? And that definitely hurt his draft stock. I don't know if he had any character issues or anything like that, but this is a dude who's a solid football player. This is a guy who, before Jalen Hyatt took off as this big name deep threat,


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[Assistant] He was considered Tennessee's number one wide receiver and he put up some pretty good numbers until he got hurt. So there's a lot of, there's a lot of number one potential.


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[Assistant] Seemingly with Cedric Tillman. It's just about getting the opportunities as you said, to put it all together. But to Jason's point,


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[Assistant] You know, when you look at this offense being the same, no matter who the quarterback is, because all quarterbacks in the quarterback room are so similar, I think he will get the opportunities. He might not be grade A considering, you know, the units he's playing with, but the opportunities would award itself and I think it'd be okay.


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[Assistant] Like, you know, like when you talk to people, and I was listening to a, uh, to an interview with a defensive line coach, and they was asking him of the guys who he thought was getting off the line in scrimmage the fastest.


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[Assistant] And he shocked me when he says, you know, Tristan Hill from the defensive tackle position.


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[Assistant] He seems to be the one guy that's getting off the line and scrimmage faster than anybody else. I don't know what the situation was in Dallas. I don't know much about him, but that's a guy that can, you know, possibly make some noise. It seems like he's caught the coach's attention already. So it'll be interesting to see what he do. But I think outside of the defensive tackle position, I look at the linebacker room as well. You know what I mean? That's considered by most.


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[Assistant] The weakest position on the team. And so, you know, you got Jordan Phillips back coming off an injury.


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[Assistant] You gotta see Oni Takitaki back coming off the injury. So it'd be interesting to see how guys like that play. I do feel like even though, you know, guys won't play this game.


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[Assistant] But just throughout the preseason, a guy like Jock, right, who's had so many expectations upon him since he's been drafted. And I heard him speak earlier in camp when it was at the Greenbrier. He talked about feeling more free and feeling like he can play to his skillset in Jim Short's defense. So it'd be interesting to see the tweaks to see has been.


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[Assistant] Made with the linebackers and how they react to it compared to how they deal with Joe Woods.


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[Assistant] This might be an unpopular take and Jason, you can weigh in on this as well. Anthony Walker, I feel like was, you know, resigned because he's considered the heart and soul of the team. He's a good locker room guy, a good veteran and leader to have on his team.


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[Assistant] But when Cioni Takitaki got his opportunities to play as the Mike Linebacker, I thought we seen him.


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[Assistant] And a different light that we had never seen him before. And so I understand that, you know, Anthony Walker has been considered the captain or that guy, but I think Takitaki is a guy that you're talking about that if he goes out there and show it, it might be hard.


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[Assistant] Not to make him that Mike linebacker. Because I think he excelled when he got the opportunities in that role.


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[Assistant] And I think that's why I have Jim Schwartz as his defensive coordinator. I think we will see him take that next step.


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[Assistant] You know, everybody talks about Jim Shore's defense being so simple to understand. So to where they're not out there thinking too much. They can just go out there and play football. I don't know what took Joe Woods so long. I think he was forced to do so, but towards the end of the season, you start seeing him play Grant Delpit at his more natural safety position.


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[Assistant] More closer to the line of scrimmage, more in the box, put him in a position to be able to be a playmaker. And here it is, Jim Schwartz, that's his plan for him all along. So, you know, if he can stay healthy and really just, you know, not only sustain how we...


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[Assistant] He finished last season, but take it to the next step. I think he could be like that breakout player for the Cleveland Browns this year.


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[Assistant] I was born in 1987, right? I vaguely remember the Cleveland Browns before they left here in 95. And so most of my memory is 99 until now.


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[Assistant] But you opted to stay here and not too many people opt to stay in Cleveland when you have an opportunity to go elsewhere.


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[Assistant] I always thought that he was truly a pillar of the community. I thought he was a guy that represented the organization very, very well on and off the field and that he truly set the example. You know, he played with all kinds of injuries that we never knew about.


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[Assistant] And he got out there every single day and like he bust his ass and he really showed that he was the epitome of Cleveland.


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of people will talk about a former quarterback who used to be here and they will say that, you know, he represents Cleveland. He gets us. And to me, he didn't. I think Joe Thomas is the guy who truly represents Cleveland well. This is a guy who brings his hard hat and his lunch pail.


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[Assistant] Every single time he comes to work. And it's unfortunate, you know, his rookie season was the year Browns, I think won like what? 10 and 6 and didn't make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Like of the, of the, what, since 99 or current Browns team?


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[Assistant] It's funny you say that, man, cause we, we talk about, we sitting here, we watching reels, right? And I always find people with these throwback reels of guys like Jamal Charles, Priest Holmes, uh. Yea, who had a couple of great years. Yea, Chris Johnson, you know, guys like this, and it's like damn, man. It was. David Johnson. David Johnson.


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[Assistant] It's, it's one of those situations, man, to where like, it's, it's, that's a good question. It's something to think about. If Nick Chubb retired today, would he be a retiree? No, he wouldn't. He wouldn't be. No. You know, but I think he's on his way.


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[Assistant] I think it's gotta be more than three. AJ Peterson said the bar so high.


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[Assistant] Question, random thought, do you think that, like, how the running back position has been treated in the NFL and how it's viewed now and how the game has changed so much? Do you think the criteria for running backs getting to the Hall of Fame now becomes, do you have to view it with a slanted eye, I guess, so to speak?


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[Assistant] I think Super Bowl is a teen thing. That's just me. I know a lot of people say-


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[Assistant] I agree with that, but like you still, the whole team has to be moving in the same direction and accomplish that feat. So I wouldn't say he's a Hall of Famer because he's beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] I mean a coach of the year award is not enough to get you higher in a division when you consider everything else, every head coach in this division has done.


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[Assistant] You can't. You can't prove that. So, I mean, if rankers are what they are, I guess, just to spice the conversation some, I would say that Kevin Stefanski has a lot of potential that when we do this next year, he might be ranked number two. He might be third. He might be third or two.


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[Assistant] I mean, fourth is where he is, fourth is fourth, but I think he's a really good head coach and I think he gets a lot of unnecessary slack.


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[Assistant] I'm a guy like Jason, man. I'm a huge supporter of Kevin Stefanski. But I'm authentic. When he pisses me off, I let it be known. He pisses me off. There's been times that he's done things that's overly frustrated me that just didn't make sense.


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[Assistant] But I like how he's even keel. I like the fact that he doesn't really overreact to the negative.


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[Assistant] Or to the positive, and I think attitude is true, uh, true reflection of leadership. And if you put out that type of energy, I think your players will follow it. I think he's a coach that does a great job of scheming up a game plan to get guys open. To your point.


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[Assistant] He's always had guys run it open for the last three years. He's just never had a quarterback that could consistently get them the ball. I think that the players respect him and play hard for him. And I think he has to respect the owners in the general.


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[Assistant] I do agree with Jason though, he's not no beta male. I mean, Stefanski is gonna talk his stuff and he will let you know how he feel, but you know, a lot of people might feel like, okay, I'm giving him too much praise for a coach who's not done much, but


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[Assistant] I've had this conversation with G plenty of times. Now granted, I was the guy who last year I was pissed off that he didn't fire Joe Woods or Mike Priefer in the middle of the season.


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[Assistant] I was one of those guys screaming like, man, try to save the season. But it took me a long time to realize what Jason said from day one. They was punting. So it was no need for him to go out there and do that. But then I also think that it showed good leadership.


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[Assistant] Not firing those guys just because they were in the midst of a storm. I used to be a supervisor of a seven man department for the city of Cleveland.


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[Assistant] And to me, good leaders, they delegate to the people that they hire. You have to trust them to do their job, whether they do their job right or not. And then as a leader, you come back at the end of that, you assess the situation and then you make the proper changes. And I thought he did a good job of doing that.


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[Assistant] I think that's a true statement, but I also think it's true two of those guys who's always in the top four just happened to be in the AFC North. It seems like John Harbaugh has been able to take whatever he's been given and make it competitive and at least scare other opponents to, hey, the Ravens can make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] You can argue that both coaches didn't, hasn't, I mean, I mean, think about it. What do you mean? So this is when he came over from San Francisco because he worked with Kellen Kaepernick, he came over, he became the Ravens offensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] Lamar wanted MVP, but he didn't do much in my opinion to really progress Lamar Ford as a quote unquote quarterback. Cause this is what people say when you talk about Lamar Jackson. He's a running quarterback and he can't throw. Like to me, good offensive coordinators can help you add on layers to your game.


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[Assistant] You can argue that's the edge, but man, it's something about how competitive the NFL is and the AFC is in particular. He's never had a losing season as a coach and it's not like he's always had a competent roster.


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[Assistant] I think he's very important to the Browns overall success. I mean, he's the center of the team. His chemistry with Deshaun Watson is very important. I think he's a highly intelligent young man.


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[Assistant] A lot of people talk about the quarterback coming to the line of scrimmage and making line checks and being able to recognize what's going on. And I think he's Deshaun Watson's second side, second, uh, you know.


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[Assistant] You know, he is a good football player and we have a good offensive line coach who was able to get the most out of him, as you said, that we got with Wyatt Teller because it's not like Wyatt Teller was in high regards when he got here. And so like, I think that his overall presence is important.


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[Assistant] Uhm, as far as Nick Harris go, I think, I think he will make this team as a backup center. I kind of disagree with Jason a little bit.


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[Assistant] Just for the simple fact, I remember during the COVID year, rather due to injury or COVID itself, he kind of played guard in a couple games and he didn't do too bad. And one of the things that I remember Andrew Barry saying about Nick Harris when they drafted him is they thought he was a center that was smart and that was versatile.


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[Assistant] And so when you talk about a lot of these dep guys, it's the versatility, I think that that's able to keep them around.


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[Assistant] Well, to your point, you know, the same thing that make you laugh, make you cry, right? When you got a, uh, a developer and coach like Bill Callahan, it's almost like the guardians. You feel a little bit more comfortable moving on from


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[Assistant] One, I think it's Tyrone Wheatley Jr. Is that thing, is his father Tyrone Wheatley, who used to play for the Raiders, was like a fullback for the Raiders or something? He went to Michigan. Tyrone Wheatley.


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[Assistant] I'm hearing his name a lot and I know Jason, you was out there. Is this a young man that has an opportunity to earn a roster spot? It seems like they like me. Wheatley?


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[Assistant] And somebody had came in to pay a ticket and I looked at his name and it said Najee Davenport Jr.


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[Assistant] I said, no stuff. I said, uh, I'm like, you born here? He like, yeaah, cause I know dive enforcement a lot of time in Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] I will ask this question though because I think Anthony and I talked about it earlier this week. The Kansas City Chiefs came up as a name as a team that wanted to potentially look into trading for Jonathan Taylor. But the Chiefs was also used as an example of a team of why quote unquote the running back position is not important because they won the Super Bowl with a Ricky behind them.


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[Assistant] I agree with that, but I think that it's different strokes for different folks. I think that instead of just looking at, you know, he's a running back, he's a running back, he's a running back, and I can get this running back that can do similar things to you.


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[Assistant] But nah, I don't either, but I'm speaking on the position overall. I think you need to look at it case by case. I know me and Jason disagree, but...


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[Assistant] You got a guy in Jonathan Taylor who's going into the last year of his contract and Ersay saying he won a high round pick for him in return. You're not going to get that because whoever trades, if you trade a first or second round pick for him, that means you're signing him to a new deal.


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[Assistant] I was going to say like, I was going to say second round pick. I think the boo, I think the Bills, the Chiefs, and maybe the Dolphins are three teams that will probably give up a second round pick.


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[Assistant] If I'm the head coach, this is the head coach that just came from Philly. Why would I want to trade y'all? Why would I? You don't! You don't! Anthony Richardson and Jonathan Taylor is the perfect marriage to have something similar to what you ran offensively with the Philadelphia Eagles. And to me, it's like the starter kit, right?


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[Assistant] So whatever riff raff you have with the owner, man, if I'm the head coach, I'm like, Hey, I need y'all to kind of get this settled down because I need this dude.


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[Assistant] You ever seen the music video, Stan, by Eminem? No. Oh man, I'ma show you after the show, but, and that's what I, every time I think back, it just reminds me of a pissed off Dan Gilbert, all in his fillings, you know, just, just right in the way. Somebody should have told him, man, put the pin down.


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[Assistant] I know of a young man who played basketball for Shaw High School two years ago.


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[Assistant] That's something that, you know, my daughter is a young athlete and I, I know another young lady, 13, 14 years old, at basketball practice, had a heart condition, she passed away. Oh my gosh. You're starting to see this and hear this a lot.


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[Assistant] People who have that type of passion to pursue that type of career choice.


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[Assistant] I think they don't realize how necessary they are to actually want to save lives, to actually want to embed yourself and make all the sacrifices to put yourself in that field to save people like Bronnie. Like, it's a scary thing, man. Like, life is short.


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[Assistant] And that's why you gotta appreciate like each moment, each day. Cause you can be in great shape and drop dead just like that.


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[Assistant] Speaking of that, Aditi, we heard Jimmy and Dee Haslam address the media at the Greenbrier, and they both talked about that the hirings of Bubba Ventrone and Jim Schwartz that they thought would have significantly helped Kevin Stefanski.


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[Assistant] Now we know what Schwartz and Bertrone of Ventrone brings to the actual position crew, but what do you think and the impact that they were going to have on Kevin Stefanski himself this year?


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[Assistant] Aditi, I do have a follow up Deshaun Watson question based on a conversation that we all had here. So a lot of us on this panel believe that Deshaun Watson will be good again. Jason said he's not sure if he has it to be great again. Do you believe that Deshaun Watson has it to be great again?


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[Assistant] It's satisfying about knowing that you actually are battle tested and knowing that you actually went out there, you know, and you played against the best Amano Emano. They says iron sharpens iron and the only way to get your iron sharpened is if you go out there and you could beat the tail off some other iron. So I don't have a problem with the Browns, uh,


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[Assistant] Tough start to the schedule. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think everybody in the AMC North.


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[Assistant] They be in the chat like, why you got a Biggles fan as a host? He shouldn't be on the show.


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[Assistant] I remember when I first started at the, at the radio station, and it was just like, damn, everybody here is a fan of like all different kind of, all different kind of teams. So like, no, I mean, I learned that in media school, sometimes you're going to cover sports in a city that you're not from and of teams that you're not fans of.


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[Assistant] I said Jason has some pretty cool notes from things that he has.


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[Assistant] So I, I mean, I thought it was cool. I know me and Jason talked about it a lot because it made me think about Deshaun Watson, right? You hear a lot of people talking about, well, every time you looked on social media, he was out of the country traveling and things like that. But I just think that the, I think work-life balance is important.


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[Assistant] Not just for quarterbacks, but for anybody in any profession. I can speak to myself, I'm still fresh in this. And I'm chasing it so hard, right? And I think that I'm learning that.


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[Assistant] Not having that balance, it can impact negatively the relationships that truly matter to you, right? And so I think that if you can find that balance and still cater to the relationships outside of your profession that matter, it probably actually makes you better at your profession.


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[Assistant] I just think to what Jason said is toxic and I think like sometimes you have to detox yourself from either the way you was brought up or a train of thought that you was thought because for the longest.


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[Assistant] Me and myself is grind, grind, grind. If you work eight hours a day, you need to be working 16. Or if you're doing this, you could be doing more to do more. And you know, it just made me think about Tom Brady because that's the other side of it. I wonder how much not having that work-life balance


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[Assistant] Impacted his very last season in the NFL because everything that he started to go through in his personal life because he didn't have that balance. And I just think that can happen to either last one of us, no matter what the profession is. And so, like to Jason's point, he used the perfect word, it's toxic sometimes. And you gotta understand, like,


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[Assistant] I thought that the number 32 with the helmet actually seen a couple people on Twitter saying it too. That should have been one of the options for the mid-fuel logo. Or just the 32 itself.


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[Assistant] Is, uh, last year was kind of like an anomaly. Anomaly. Anomaly. I struggle to say words like that, sorry. And I think this year was more realistic as to where they are. And I think that now they can take a step back and really assess this thing and just hopefully try to put a better team together.


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[Assistant] A friend of mine asked me this question, I think you two are perfect for me to ask you all. He asked me yesterday, he said, you know,


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[Assistant] A lot of, you see with the Cavaliers, you see with the, with the Browns, the media will go directly and talk to a player after a bad game or when a team is in turmoil. And he said, you know, why doesn't anybody go talk to


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[Assistant] Jose Ramirez, now people say he doesn't speak English well. He does speak English. Depending on who you talk to, but it got me thinking like, I would be very, very interested to know.


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[Assistant] We talk a lot about mid-market teams and I'm just looking to be educated with this question. I look at the Cincinnati Reds and over my sports fandom, I've seen them sign guys to pretty damn decent contracts over the time and I hear this time, well, we playing this market.


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[Assistant] But, but, I mean, I can remember Votto, I can remember Ken Griffey back in the day, I'm just saying over the history of time, I've seen them spend more.


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[Assistant] But the point I'm making over my history of time, I've seen the Cincinnati Reds spend more money to acquire talent and try to improve their roster than I have with the Guardians and I guess- I hope that's true.


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[Assistant] I'm not necessarily talking this year, I'm just talking about over a period of time I've seen small market teams like the Reds, like the St. Louis Cardinals, like the Brewers. I'm just telling you what I see, okay, so I'm looking to be educated.


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[Assistant] What you tell Bedbug? Maybe he'll step up on you. Then B's alive and your ass is dead. I'm just saying is all. That fuck don't need to die.


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[Assistant] Uh, so the owner before that, my parents had I think a boat and they cemented off half the driveway. It's, it's a really weird L shape with a narrow driveway because our houses are on top of each other in Parma.


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[Assistant] That's saying it. That's good work. Happy birthday, Anthony. Anthony Tennis to overtime. Uh, we're going to overtime, guys, and I have something for G after the show. Uh, what is overtime today? Peace!


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[Assistant] Good bro, how you feeling bro? What's up with the hair? So you back bald again?


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[Assistant] Actually, we were, uh, I met, I was at Coachella.


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[Assistant] Oh fire bro, Chance is like, he's like the, he's like.


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[Assistant] I've just been like, just taking constant steps, you know what I'm saying? Like the stairs over escalators type thing, but that tour was really dope.


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[Assistant] That's, that's really it. But yea, nah, with the chant shit though, it's, it's really dope. Cause you already know, I, I, you know, it's crazy, I think in like my first interview with you, I like quoted like a chant song.


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[Assistant] I have quite a few, and well, if you found me...


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[Assistant] Don't be. I try not to get attached to things anymore, because I'm used to losing them.


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[Assistant] Despite that setback, I'm a free man now. I owe you. Now it's back to Shot Town. So, you got a place for me to stay, man?


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[Assistant] I can't wait to pick apart these files of yours and see what's caused all this hullabaloo.


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[Assistant] Well, hell! Somebody's trying to hack in! We'll lose everything! Shut him out! Hell!


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[Assistant] If we can find the source, we can kill his access. Hurry!


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[Assistant] Aiden, he's trying to bleed our ship! We're gonna have to shut him out fast! Aiden! Come on!


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[Assistant] Where are you going? That smartass just hit us with one hell of a virus.


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[Assistant] I uh, put the handcuffs on him and in the process of doing that I


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[Assistant] There were a total of four photographs in all. I began to examine them. I saw two faint prints.


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[Assistant] And it was necessary for me to utilize all of the photographs to compare against the ink prints as I examined them


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[Assistant] I was able to pick up some details on one photograph and some details on another photograph.


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[Assistant] Using all of the photographs at different contrasts, I was able to find in the neighborhood of about 18 points of identity between the two prints. Well, I feel that this is a major breakthrough in this investigation because we were able for the first time to actually say


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[Assistant] That these are definitely the fingerprints of Lee Harvey Oswald and that they are on the rifle. There is no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] I was thinking maybe we could just get everything out in the open right now.


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[Assistant] Now, it's one thing being in a band, which comes with its own tensions anyway, but being brothers must come with...


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[Assistant] So when you were at Disney, when you were sort of placed into this kind of clean cut, you know, butter wouldn't melt, kind of sugar coated, you must have got very good at just changing the subject and diverting interviews away from anything salacious that people might want to...


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[Assistant] To anyone who doesn't know what the purity rings were for or what they stood for.


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[Assistant] Renowned child psychologist Yolanda Mendez is with us. Dr. Mendez, your story is extraordinary. You actually know Aiden Pierce, the man we know as the vigilante. Tell us how that came about.


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[Assistant] It's great that you've come forward. You were treating her son for trauma?


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[Assistant] I'm sure it'll be a fascinating read. Dr. Mendez, thank you.


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[Assistant] They're a winner in the Josh Beltrade, somehow. But... What if he doesn't pick up his option next year?


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[Assistant] I was fine with Savalli because you sold at the very peak of his value. You were never gonna get more than what you got for him. And Bell, you're just trying to move on from the contract. From a player's perspective, you lost one of the clubhouse leaders in Rosario, your best pitcher in Savalli.


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[Assistant] And, you know, a big thumper allegedly in Josh Bell, and you got nothing! For a team that was very much...


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[Assistant] Yeah. So, so I understand why the clubhouse is upset about it, like, and they are. Yeah. So, you know, I...


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[Assistant] I think that they're gonna, Chris Antonetti has a lot of work to do in smoothing over the clubhouse because they are still technically in it and you need these guys to stay engaged if the hope is that McKenzie and Bieber or Quantrill, some combination of these guys could be back in September.


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[Assistant] We gotta make sure that there's something left to play for by September, so you gotta get these guys to hold on to the, to the bow doors here, and not just jump overboard.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, they're saving nine million in the deal according to Zach. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Every time they go into free agency, we push them and push them and push them and it doesn't end well. We go back to Swisher and Bourne and it didn't end well. Edwin was okay, but they moved off the money as quick as they brought it in.


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[Assistant] And, and now with this, who am I missing? Do they have any other big free agent signings?


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[Assistant] My first thought was why would anyone take, I mean they got off Segura's money, so it's not as big of a financial hit, so they're probably looking at it as...


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[Assistant] If this makes anyone feel better, I was talking to Zach about it the other night, and Zach obviously has been covering baseball forever. He said he talked to someone with the Rays who said, we're going to wind up regretting this one. Oh really? Yea, like they're already like, huh huh huh.


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[Assistant] But last year, as the example I'm talking about, they were lower half. Right, but they weren't dead last. But you can win playing Harvey Wallbanger baseball, doubles, gaps, and speed on the bases, but it's a lot harder in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. They get guys that you've never heard of. Right. Harold Ramirez goes down there and plays well. Yee Man Choi goes down there and plays well.


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[Assistant] Disaster. Switch to T-Mobile and you can get the baseball packets for free. That's what I do.


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[Assistant] That is not a tier one free agent anymore. He's not tier one free agent. Have you seen what he's done this year? Aaron Judge, yeaah. Aaron Judge is Shohei Otani is a tier one free agent. Fair. I'm just saying, that's tier one. To me, tier one is a lot wider. Bellinger is


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[Assistant] Man, I just... He hasn't had a good year. I'm still a buyer in him.


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[Assistant] We were going to do it yesterday, but we wanted to wait because we had Mike on today. Okay. Well, he's got Deshaun at 11. 11, yeah. So. Right, we'll get into that in just a sec, but yeah. And I wanted to ask him about Aaron Rodgers. He's got... I was surprised he was so high still. I was really surprised.


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[Assistant] Uh, we were arguing over Aaron Rodgers, and little surprise that he fell as high as, or climbed as high as he was. Were you surprised at all that Rodgers was as high as he was?


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[Assistant] I'm just curious, do you talk to the same people every year for this, or does it ever change?


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[Assistant] And just, just for clarity, those are all the guys around Deshaun. Stafford was 10, Deshaun 11, Kirk Cousins was 12, and Kyle O'Murray was 13. So those are all sort of clumpy.


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[Assistant] Mike, one more quarterback I want to ask you about, uh, obviously the Ohio State Ties here, Justin Fields. Go Bucks. Uh, you have him overrated. Don't do that. Don't do that. Overrated. Don't do that. You're killing times. Sorry, he's overrated. No he's not!


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[Assistant] This is your three-feel? This three-feel. Three. How many years does Stroud start? Two, right? Two, yeaah. I'm just saying.


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[Assistant] I would rather have him than Matthew Stafford. I'd put him above Stafford. I think Matthew Stafford. Because of age and injury. I'd rather have him than Dak Prescott. I'd put him above Dak. I don't trust Dak with the ball. I'd probably put him nine.


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[Assistant] I'm not as big on Trevor Lawrence as everybody else is. Really? I'm very high on Trevor Lawrence. Why is that? I don't know. He just, cause he not do, he don't do all the... I think Lamar is a little too high. I think Lamar is high.


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[Assistant] I'd have him nine. I'd probably have him nine. I think he's the top ten quarterback.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well, yeah. On this list. Yeah. Are you kidding me? Hertz at 6, Lamar 7, Trevor Lawrence 8, Dak 9, Stafford 10, Deshaun 11.


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[Assistant] Obviously the Jordan Aitken signing is directly from Deshaun. I think that they've taken his input in.


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[Assistant] And what are we, what are we using to gauge to grade a top 10? Numbers. But what numbers? Passing yards, quarterback rating, passer rating? I think it's the combination.


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[Assistant] All, all of them. Let's go QBR. QBR. Well, here's what I would say. Are there...


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[Assistant] Are there opportunities to win the game? Are they scheming receivers open all over the field and he's not making the throws?


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[Assistant] What do you do if you're nine and eight, ten and seven? What do you do? If you miss the playoffs but you have a winning record, what are you supposed to do? I'm asking. I don't know. I'm asking. That wasn't the question.


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[Assistant] David DeJoco is only going to the Hall of Fame when he buys a ticket. Yeaah. That's pretty sick.


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[Assistant] They're flying around and I said when I came back from Greenbrier, Denzel looked more engaged and people who have, who, I'm not there every day. People who are there every day said he had a different tone about him at this camp where sometimes he just seems to drift or.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, they obviously like him enough that they took a very recent first round pick and said, you're going over here, we're putting him over there.


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[Assistant] Yes, but he hasn't been. Yes, he hasn't been.


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[Assistant] That's been interesting, and that was one thing that Zach pointed out, because again, I was only there for the last couple of days, and Zach Jackson was sort of watching for that, and he said he's been, he's been pretty quiet. And then there was one, one or two incidents on the last day that I was there, where he was really getting into them, but for the most part, he was quiet. You say he's a yeller, is that from the past?


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[Assistant] What was unique about Jim, I think I mentioned this on the show, you would know better than me, he's standing on the line of scrimmage, watching, like I've never seen it.


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[Assistant] I want to ask you about Thornhill though before we move on. Do you think the change from JJ3 to Thornhill


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[Assistant] I've seen him get cooked by the Steelers twice in Pittsburgh the last two years. Until that doesn't happen. Who got cooked by the Steelers? James Hudson. James Hudson. Two years in a row. You got cooked in Pittsburgh. Until Pittsburgh don't cook him.


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[Assistant] I mean listen, we all make fun of Jed at times. I was cracking up. He's fine. I was cracking up in practice watching him do four leg lifts and then quit during stretching and then take, uh,


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[Assistant] And I've never gotten a perfect 9 out of 9. Oh really? No. I think I've got like CTE or something because I can't remember things that I used to remember on who played with what.


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[Assistant] And now they've got it for, if you go to ImmaculateGrid.com, free plug for them, they've got it for baseball, they've got it for men's basketball, NBA, football, and hockey.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's a lot of fun. Uh, NBA today, uh, five plus assists per game for a season from the Warriors, the Bulls, and the Bucks. It's, just go there and look it up. It's the new, it's the new Wordle as far as I'm concerned. I don't really play Wordle much anymore.


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[Assistant] But the baseball one annoys me because I've missed on someone that I thought were like slam dunk, oh I know that, and they were wrong, and I'm like, oh, and then I get mad and throw my phone down and then I won't finish.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we did one the other day. We did one the other day. I was talking about the cost of youth sports and how outrageous.


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[Assistant] He'll be, if it's a hamstring, unless he tore the thing in half, he should be back.


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[Assistant] Do you see? You see the words in the book? The words are changing his mind. He was brainwashed. If I read the words in the book and I say, go and kill the Ironman, he will do it.


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[Assistant] Because he is totally out of control when we read the words in the book. Order received. Kill the iron man. Kill the iron man.


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[Assistant] Kill the iron man. Uuuh, uuuh, help me. Uh-oh. Sorry iron man. Why did you do that? What? Me? I'm not. I'm just explaining that. No, you will be punished. Okay, let's make it fun. Hey zombie, kill the captain too. Order received.


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[Assistant] Come on Shen, how long have we known each other? Stop hiding from the truth! This King bot hands war!


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[Assistant] He's probably dead already. We should just get out of here.


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[Assistant] How could Shen be so foolish as to trust you with the sword? You of all people!


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[Assistant] Right. But I mean, when you're working in such a world as the adult entertainment industry, I'm gonna try to avoid using the four letter P word just for demonetization's sake. But uhm, when you work in such a field, it feels like you are working with so many people that have such interesting personal lives and could be liable to call you at any time.


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[Assistant] Pretty much the same reason that I wouldn't want to manage adult entertainment stars, but it just so happens that like, they're probably even way more of a handful and you have a whole roster.


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[Assistant] Tell me about that process of how a girl goes from, from just a regular girl to being signed with you.


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[Assistant] It's probably the last job that I could ever imagine somebody doing as just a labor of love. But you seem like, you're like the, uh, the Craigslist of the hotel entertainment industry. You're not trying to turn a profit. You just like it?


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[Assistant] 22. But how much money did you think, like, for me, if I wanted to be retired right now, I mean, I'm gonna need what, like 10 million plus in the bank?


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[Assistant] Right. No, when I think about it, there's definitely adult girls that I've, uh, hung out with. When I say adult, I mean adult stars or whatever who have had outrageously disgusting homes. I don't know what it is.


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[Assistant] What the fuck. So, okay, so you, you retire per se at a young age, you've got a good amount of money and then,


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[Assistant] Just for the audience, I recently listened to another interview that you did, so I'm a little bit more clear on it, but trace the steps between retiring and then when you first start helping out your first adult story.


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[Assistant] Right. And so, yeah, did, did you feel like that was something, you know, cause it's interesting to go from retired really like just effectively doing whatever you want to then all of a sudden taking care of this large roster of girls.


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[Assistant] He'll tell ya. You don't feel like there's a certain extent to which you could be building this out so that like somebody else could be helping you and you wouldn't have to be picking up the phone in the middle of the night?


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[Assistant] I know a girl who you, who was working with you for a period of time and then all of a sudden you let her go and like from my perspective, I was just like, you know, whoa, like what, what's going on with her? Like I was worried.


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[Assistant] But it's interesting, would you say the average person who gets into your job role is doing it because they're really horny? Cause you don't really seem like that type. And I've talked to plenty of girls, I'm like, Spiegler, he's not like that? They're like, nope, nope, nope.


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[Assistant] Right. It's interesting for a lot of people, they might not really understand that you're the agent, so you work directly with the girls and then these adult companies, whether it's Vixen or, uh, you know,


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[Assistant] Just a regular day in the life, you know, just fucking stuff up. Have you always had that kind of mind state where you're just like really focused and really organized?


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[Assistant] quality to see somebody who a takes a job that it seems like most people don't have this attitude towards and then just does such a ridiculously good job of that job and also where


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[Assistant] It seems like you're willing to just go the extra mile in situations where you probably don't really have to, where the company, the, the point company would be forgiving, you know, a situation as a business owner.


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[Assistant] You're always trying to balance in your head like the risk versus the, uh, the cost that you're going to be taking. And it seems like you are so one-sided in your dedication to being perfect.


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[Assistant] What kind of girl catches your eye? What does a girl need to have to become part of the team?


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[Assistant] Have you seen that where you have girls come in and then they're genuinely not that excited about having sex and it just doesn't last?


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[Assistant] Okay. Well hey, I mean, it's just great to know that you have such a dedication to the craft. When you say that you want a girl to be a pervert though,


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[Assistant] Have you had girls where you thought that they were the right amount of pervert but then you found out that they were actually like way too much of a pervert, just a little bit too grimy?


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[Assistant] Somebody told me that we should be really careful if we ever came close to hooking up with Nicolai Shea because she's just so ruthless.


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[Assistant] I was describing you earlier to one of my employees and he said, man, he sounds like basically the most official legal pimp ever.


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[Assistant] And that's the thing with you is that you're super demanding. You want to go down to work, how many days? Six, seven days a week?


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[Assistant] Really? What's the health of the adult industry like from your perspective right now versus you say in the early 2000s was that the real heyday before the internet really took over?


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[Assistant] Do you ever see, either actually see or just hear about the fallout from stuff like, uh, you know, DVDs or just people in general trying to make porn look like this inherently anti-woman thing? Is that something that you resent or like how do you feel when you hear about this sort of narrative?


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[Assistant] Right. Do you, uhm, do you feel as if they're, like, how do you feel when something is coming down the pipeline like the condom regulation?


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[Assistant] Right. Does that, how do you feel about the advent of the private Snapchat porn girls or the people like Riley who have their own website? Does that take away from your business? Is that something?


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[Assistant] It's interesting to me that you've reached such heights of success doing this one sliver of what


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[Assistant] When I was listening to Asakira interview you in a car driving to Vegas, George called you like two to three times throughout the course of that hour.


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[Assistant] You really do have a dad-esque mentality, you know?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause you know, when I think about it, like if, if I, you know, was operating a business and some girl had to come to this building or whatever, it's like, what, what is my mentality going to be on her getting to the building? My mentality is going to be, here's the address, figure it out. Here's the phone number you call. That will help you figure it out. That's it. But say it was your daughter.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but you, so you famously will only work with a girl if she does anal. Are there any other stipulations? Not only. Oh, really?


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[Assistant] Damn. But so yea, if a girl reaches out to you but then she's not down to do anal, what is your attitude or how can you tell if you-


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[Assistant] Talk to girls all the time too who seem to think that anal is actually better than doing vaginal because you know, there's less bacteria, there's less crazy stuff.


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[Assistant] Do you have a sort of similar mentality when it comes to stuff like double penetration? Is that like a must if a girl really wants to go far in the industry?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it just seems so unlikely that a guy who's not terribly interested in watching porn or banging all the girls would end up in a position of such power.


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[Assistant] You don't? No. Oh, okay. I thought that that was just industry standard. No. So do you think that there's a large percentage of the fans that are gonna be bothered by a girl doing interracial these days?


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[Assistant] There it goes. Do you, has Viagra had a negative impact on the game or in terms of the male talent?


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[Assistant] How important are- oh, you're not big on no list, you know, you try to stay away from that?


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[Assistant] But I mean, there's gotta be some dudes out there who have done stuff that's so offensive to the girls that they're just not into it at all.


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[Assistant] I remember seeing that in high school and being amazed, disgusted, so many emotions.


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[Assistant] Right. How uhm, how important are the awards to you?


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[Assistant] And I mean, you have the power to sort of market the girls in a sense, like to, and I mean, doing that kind of survey, it could never really account for the fact that you are a person who has taste and you're going out of your way and you're doing it exactly how you want it to be done. It's not like this is some randomized thing.


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[Assistant] Right. Do you see yourself doing this until you croak or when are you going to stop?


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[Assistant] If my girlfriend was one of your girls, you would never have a complaint about me. I don't think. I might have a complaint about her fucking all these random ass dicks, but...


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[Assistant] Amazing man, yeaah. So, so you see, you don't have any particular things that you're working on outside of what you are mastering right now. You're just, you're, that's what I find very interesting about you. You're a guy who just seems very content to have


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[Assistant] Completed a level of mastery with this one side of your business and that you're just content with that and you're going to continue to just be the man in that field.


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[Assistant] Right. Man, you sound like such a great communicator, cause somebody like me...


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[Assistant] Wow. See, I mean, to put it in perspective, if I looked at my phone right now and Drake was trying to call me, I would...


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[Assistant] Put the phone back down. I would continue the interview and then I would call Drake back because there's almost nobody I give a fuck about them communicating with me enough that I would take myself away from the conversation I'm having right now. But I suppose I have a level of dedication to podcasting that is sort of akin to the level of dedication you have to being a porn agent.


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[Assistant] Hey man, this is something I've been looking forward to for a few years. I really appreciate you coming through and letting me pick your brain. One of the most essential cogs in this adult entertainment world that has just been absolutely devastated in the industry for all these years. It's amazing, man.


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[Assistant] Thanks. Much respect, and the fact that you... You don't seem so impressed by yourself, but I'm impressed.


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[Assistant] Really? You weren't impressed that he got in a fist fight? Oh no, this guy got in a fist fight with somebody else.


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[Assistant] Right, there you go, but next time you jerk off, there's a very good chance that this man was involved in facilitating that nut hitting the tissue paper, so.


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[Assistant] Much respect. Thank you very much, Mr. Spiegler. No job for the coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, Soundcloud, iTunes.


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[Assistant] IG, lendotheplug.com if you want to cop a really amazing private snap. Peace.


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[Assistant] Thirty-six years ago, I spent weeks in Chester, Pennsylvania, making a film about abortion for Frontline's first season. It was ten years after Roe v. Wade.


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[Assistant] The film revolved around the Reproductive Health and Counseling Center.


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[Assistant] Last year, I returned to Pennsylvania, once again to a community that is today even more bitterly divided over abortion than it was 36 years ago.


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[Assistant] The conflict may be decades old, but one thing has not changed.


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[Assistant] Women facing unplanned pregnancies still confront the same urgent and sometimes wrenching decision.


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[Assistant] But there are always protesters on the streets outside.


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[Assistant] The Philadelphia Women's Center began providing abortions in 1973.


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[Assistant] Dr. Lisa Pereira has been an abortion provider since 2003.


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[Assistant] Those who chose to speak, like Shahara and Taran, told us they wanted their stories to be heard.


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[Assistant] Dr. George Izayu is the Pennsylvania Director of the Catholic Medical Association.


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[Assistant] Dr. Isaiah's activism has always been rooted in the counseling of young women to reject abortion. When we first met, he was counseling as many as six women a week.


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[Assistant] The first thing you encounter when entering the clinic is the bulletproof glass separating the public areas from the clinic itself.


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[Assistant] Recent years have seen an increase in intimidation of patients and threats against doctors, like Dr. Pereira.


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[Assistant] Who was singled out online on a website run by the group Operation Rescue.


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[Assistant] In 1982, when the first film was shot, security was light.


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[Assistant] The waiting room was relaxed and felt like a doctor's office. The staff wore street clothes. Then the procedure rooms were spare with a minimum of equipment.


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[Assistant] Anti-abortion groups in Pennsylvania and 23 other states have pressed for the passage of laws that mandate abortion clinics operate as ambulatory surgical facilities.


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[Assistant] Anti-abortion activists see this as progress.


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[Assistant] Pennsylvania was the first state to mandate the message be delivered 24 hours before a woman's abortion.


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[Assistant] The drug methopristone RU486 was approved by the FDA in 2000.


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[Assistant] Medical abortions now account for roughly a third of all abortions in Pennsylvania.


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[Assistant] Dr. Monique Ribeiro is an obstetrician gynecologist who frequently protests on the streets outside the Women's Center.


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[Assistant] Shahara chose to have a surgical abortion under IV sedation.


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[Assistant] IV sedation was not an option for patients at the clinic where the first film was shot.


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[Assistant] Patients then were awake, and the procedure was uncomfortable, even painful.


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[Assistant] The gestational age of this fetus was nine weeks and one day.


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[Assistant] Dr. Azayo introduced me to Pat Stanton. Pat comes from a family of pro-life activists.


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[Assistant] Often tries to speak to the men who accompany women to the clinic.


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[Assistant] Christian did go back into the clinic, but he told us later that his girlfriend went ahead with the abortion.


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[Assistant] The clearest symbol of today's anti-abortion movement is the crisis pregnancy center. There were only a few operating in the early 1980s. Now there are thousands across the country.


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[Assistant] There are as many as 150 in Pennsylvania. Many located near abortion clinics.


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[Assistant] But unlike abortion clinics, they are not required to be licensed by the state.


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[Assistant] Amnion is a crisis pregnancy center that caters to low-income women.


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[Assistant] Amnion's approach is to offer counseling, parenting classes, clothing, diapers, and pregnancy testing all for free.


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[Assistant] Andriana is 22 with an 8 month old daughter.


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[Assistant] Sky earns less than $300 a week. Like other women we met at the clinic, she struggles to support herself.


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[Assistant] These women no longer can. They are homeless. Most collect some form of public assistance.


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[Assistant] Many were founded by people like Dr. Azayu, who oppose premarital sex.


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[Assistant] And for some it is a choice they've now made over and over again.


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[Assistant] Two of Rosie's children live with her sister. Five are in foster care.


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[Assistant] Mother's home lacks the resources to follow residents after they leave.


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[Assistant] It's a statement I heard 36 years ago and continue to hear repeated today.


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[Assistant] They are committed to one goal, ending abortion no matter how long it takes.


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[Assistant] The end of the battle over abortion here in Pennsylvania and everywhere else seems a long way off.


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[Assistant] I'd had unprotected sex just one time with someone that I'd been seeing and I thought, well, you know.


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[Assistant] I already have two small children. I have a six year old and a four year old.


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[Assistant] Not only with myself and the decision that I've made, but...


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[Assistant] Also a sense of peace with these two beings that I've chosen not to bring into the world. Thank you for choosing me.


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[Assistant] I alone committed the murders. There was no one with me. No one was, uh, ever present in any...


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[Assistant] Uhm, anybody in an unplanned pregnancy.


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[Assistant] I will tell them that we don't perform abortions here because I want to be truthful with them right up front.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I always say to them, but you've called the right place because I want them to know that right away that we do have services for them.


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[Assistant] It's hard to then, you know, deny that there's, uhm, there's a baby. It's not, it's not just tissue there. It's not something that's easily, uhm, disposed of.


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[Assistant] I wanted to see Dr. Sayu Tuesday, uhm, and I talked to him for like, I told him all about it, like, you know, that everything that was happening, and like, then he told me about


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[Assistant] How my, if I, if I were to have an abortion, how the abortion would be performed, like a salt injection would be


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[Assistant] Injected into my stomach and like the baby would slowly die inside of me like skin be burning away. So I said I'm just gonna go ahead with the pregnancy.


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[Assistant] And I'll come live with you so I can get the proper care and all.


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[Assistant] We don't want to bring unwanted children into the world and have them abused like other children are. We want to grow, we want to raise our children upright.


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[Assistant] They make these kinds of hats. Oh, they did? Oh, they made that, okay. No, this is not a Kango, but they make these. They do? Yeah, they have Kango baseball caps, they have nip caps. I didn't know that. Airplane flap caps, they got everything. They do? They make everything! Why would one need an airplane flap cap?


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[Assistant] Have you ever been to the Kangol factory or anything like that? I have not, but at one point there was something going on and uhm, they had uhm, a hat making machine that was stuck somewhere. And I got it moved from wherever it was to another city. How did you get it moved? Money.


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[Assistant] I helped them and they moved the hat making machine from one place to another and fired it back up and started making hats again in this town where people could work. Wow. You like saved the town. No, I ain't saved town. Let's go with you saved the town. It's a better story. Sam Jackson saves town. Save some jobs.


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[Assistant] Residence cheer as hat-making machine arrives. It was awesome. Big parade, everything. You went to the big premiere last night, I know that. I did, yeaah. Is that not, do you like to watch yourself? Like, will you sit and watch the whole movie? There's a lot of actors.


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[Assistant] And this is a terrible little secret, is a lot of actors at these movie premieres will show up, they go to the red carpet, and then they get to the end of the red carpet and they head right for the door. They don't want to watch themselves. Well they have a cast dinner somewhere because you've seen the movie like 13 times. Right. Some people.


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[Assistant] And you go to a cast dinner and then you show up at the party afterwards. Did you do that? No, I watched the movie. You watched the movie? Yea, right. Cause I'd never seen it with an audience. I saw it, I'd only seen it once and I saw it with my agent, manager, lawyer.


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[Assistant] Is she one of your best friends? Of course! Okay. Yeah. Is she closer to you? Or who's ahead on the best friend list? Brie or Magic Johnson?


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, that's very different. Well, I see Bri a lot more than I see her. Oh, interesting, because she was kind of, I won't say complaining, maybe grousing would be the word, that you have not invited her on those Italy trips that you and Magic take every summer. And I also would love to go on one of those trips.


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[Assistant] Because now my wife and I actually do like two weeks on, like a boat of our own. Then we do the last two weeks with Irvin and Cookie. And last year was like, you know, it's like the Black Yacht Club. Like Irvin and Cookie.


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[Assistant] Having some decadent food. You know, I mentioned in the monologue that they really, what they did to your face in this movie is crazy. I mean, they process called Lola. And usually it looks great.


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[Assistant] Playing Nick Fury without an eyepatch, that had to be good, right? I mean, to not have to wear that thing?


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[Assistant] So, first time I did Captain America, I hadn't worn the eye patch to learn anything. I hadn't had much to learn from Spider-Man stepping out of the shadows. So when I put the eye patch on, I got ready to do the dialogue with Captain America and I could only see half the page. I was like, oh.


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[Assistant] Okay, this is a problem. This is problematic. Yeah. So uhm, I went, told him to give me five minutes, I went over there, covered one eye, read the page, read the page, read the page, and went back and it was fine. It's like you're at the optometrist. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Really? That's interesting. It's kind of weird, but you know, it's interesting playing Nick without that. It's interesting playing Nick without the knowledge that Nick Fury has, without the chip on his shoulder, without the attitude. Kind of young, kind of free, kind of, you know, never met a super being or an extraterrestrial.


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[Assistant] Had you ever worked with a cat before in that?


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[Assistant] In that capacity? In that capacity, I guess. Uh, not that closely. Did you like working with the cat?


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[Assistant] You know, they just give you stuff and you give them a snack and you talk gently to them while they're in their place and then you know, you give them another snack and next thing you know, you're like best friends. Is that the technical term, snacking them? That's what I was doing.


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[Assistant] If you liked that video, then put a ring on it. Click the subscribe button below. Uh, uh, oh.


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[Assistant] Hey everybody, how you doing? Hey, we're back. I'm looking at my phone. I'm like, there's a name I gotta find. Oh, there it is. Okay.


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[Assistant] We had a great time. My son and I, as you guys know, went to New York. And, well there was a lot, I got some observations that I gotta share. First of all, I took my son to his first Billy Joel concert. I know nobody else, I don't think anybody else here is a big Billy Joel fan. But it was a great show.


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[Assistant] But, uh, he did an encore where he actually got off the piano, had the guitar and was rockin'.


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[Assistant] It was so great. They had, uh, they did a little Led Zeppelin. They did a tribute to Tony Bennett. He has a woman in his band.


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[Assistant] Uh, who sings, and she sang, at one point, he was in the middle of the song River of Dreams, which is actually one of my least favorite songs by him. But, right before the end, she jumped in and started singing, I think it was an Aretha Franklin song, I'm not sure.


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[Assistant] That was vanity. Good, oh yeaah. No, but, but the, anyway, the concert was great, and it was funny, I ran into this guy named Ben Fountain, who was sitting in front of me, who's an author, he's actually coming to Cleveland randomly, he's from Texas, but he's coming to Cleveland, he wrote a book that became a movie, it was called like The Long Walk Home or something.


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[Assistant] They're insane. Everybody's tailgating. It's friggin' crazy. Yeah, the tailgating stuff is crazy. Oh my god. And it's so annoying because like, I got out of, the concert was over at like 11 something. We, you know, we were at, left Madison Square Garden. I had to go to the garage where I parked my car.


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[Assistant] Getting out, and then I was staying in New Jersey, so I had to go through the Lincoln Tunnel. There's three ways to get


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[Assistant] Uh, from Manhattan to New Jersey. Well, for, well,


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's three ways, really. To go directly. You go the George Washington Bridge, which is the northernmost.


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[Assistant] Cross over the Lincoln Tunnel, which is medium and then the Holland Tunnel, which is south New York into kind of central Jersey. Well, it's still north, but a little more central. Anyway, so we're going, so.


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[Assistant] Think about that. That's what, and I'm like, thank God I don't have to live that life anymore. And then I went to my old neighborhood in Brooklyn. It was overcrowded. It was gross. I was like, this sucks. I would, when I was a kid, I could never have imagined leaving Brooklyn.


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[Assistant] That was my whole life. I was like, why would I ever leave Brooklyn? And now I can't imagine living there. That's crazy. Now, that being said, there's a lot of great things about New York. It's fun to visit. Uh, there's an energy in New York that you can't match anywhere else.


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[Assistant] As I said, on a Monday night, I'm walking with my son and my, my oldest friend walking around Manhattan at like seven o'clock on a Monday and it's packed. There's tons of people. There's a lot of energy. There's also so much diversity.


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[Assistant] I like that. That I like, but, uh, I would never want to live in New York again, which I can't believe I'm saying.


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[Assistant] I mean, I lived in a, in a, right before I moved here.


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[Assistant] So this is 12 years ago, I lived in a suburb of New Jersey, in New Jersey called Bayonne, which is a real, it's like the Parma of New Jersey, right?


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[Assistant] Attic apartment, tiny little attic apartment that had no living room. It had a bedroom, a kitchen, and then like a little space to put a TV and a chair. And I was paying 1200 a month in rent for that.


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[Assistant] No, no, not like this. Not like this. Trust me, it's nothing like New York. You're right about that. You're right about that. Now, Columbus is terrible. I do find the east side is a little more traffic-y than the west side, but still.


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[Assistant] Billy Joel was sold out at the garden. We, we had floor seats. My son had an amazing time with his first...


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[Assistant] You've lost your edge. Dang. Very disappointed. So it fell off? It fell off. The slices were tasted like crackers. I was, it was the biggest disappointment ever in a pizza place.


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[Assistant] I was really disappointed in Defari. Really? This place has been nationally renowned for its great pizza. The owner had been there for 50 years, he died.


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[Assistant] The family took over, I figured it wouldn't decline, but it did. Maybe it was just the one bad experience, plus I was sitting in there, it was like 120 degrees in there.


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[Assistant] Before we hit the first topic, we gotta talk really quick about Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] Mikey Mcnuggets was supposed to fly, so his sister lives in Germany. So his brother and he are flying to Germany. Now his brother got in no problem.


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[Assistant] Little bit of a questionable country. Little bit. Yeaah. They're on the watch list. Yeaah. And so, I call Mike, I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, oh I just got into Chicago. I was like okay, now you're further away from Germany. Yes.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, you gotta fly into Turkey. I'm like, there's no other way to get to Germany from Chicago besides Turkey. I mean, I find that it's like, well, there's no way I can get there by Saturday morning. Unless I go through Turkey. I'm like, Hey, dude, listen, I'm worried about him. I don't.


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[Assistant] There's some crazy things going on in the country of Niger. Did you hear what happened there? Most people don't even know what's going on. I don't watch the news. The country in Africa, I bet you most of our audience doesn't even know that that was a country.


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[Assistant] It's Nigerian, and then it's Niger. Yeaah. Yeaah, I know that. And Niger, not Nigeria, uh, there was a, the military overthrew the government and killed the, I don't know if it was the president, I don't know what they call the leader there, they overthrew it, they killed him,


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[Assistant] Alright, cool. Alright Anthony, let's get to some football here.


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[Assistant] Well guys, couple things. So Joe Burrow yesterday, I like, I'm sure a lot of Bangalore fans- You passed out. I heard you, I heard your legs went limp.


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[Assistant] So, they say you're coming back in December, you're right. Like, you know. That's that Deshaun Watson thing. Right, right, right. You got six games left, you ain't playing. What are you gonna do? So, listen.


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[Assistant] We always have this debate every year about rest versus rust. We saw real rust last year with Deshaun Watson. I think we all underrated how much rust he was going to have because it was clear he had a lot.


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[Assistant] You know, he's not missing a whole seat or three quarters of a season this year, but he's a guy who could use some reps more than most veteran quarterback because he hasn't played a lot the last few years. And yet you're always, and yet, like we say with Burrow, the reality is if Deshaun Watson gets hurt, then any hopes of winning a Super Bowl go out the window. So what do you do? How do you balance it?


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[Assistant] Get used to in the preseason. Is there, is there a point to playing?


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[Assistant] I think all teams now are, are ramping up a little slower in the beginning as opposed, you know, they take some time before they get in pads, for example, right? I just build up to it. So ultimately, how much do you think Deshaun Watson should play in the pre-season?


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I don't think you want to overdo it with using guys in the preseason. And like, I heard, uh, yesterday Tiki Barber, who's now doing afternoons on the fan in New York, and I like Tiki, he's like, ah, the wussification of football, nobody plays. That's stupid. Like, you gotta be smart about keeping players healthy. But I think Deshaun Watson needs some reps. I think he does need reps.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you something they should do in the preseason. And I know the old school wussification people that complain about the sports, sports being too soft will hate this. And probably the defensive players will hate this. You should not be able to sack a quarterback in the preseason.


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[Assistant] What do you mean made it easy for you? Cause he's hurt?


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[Assistant] Explain to me how that's extreme. Because it's, it's unusual for a guy drafted that late to end up being hit. What I'm saying is it happens. It happens, sure. In the end, I do agree. Like, even if Burrow and Lamar Jackson on back-to-back days went out for the year, the Sean Watson isn't any more likely to get hurt because of that.


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[Assistant] You can't live in your fear. It depends on how Lamar got whipped down. Go ahead, let's send it to Anthony here for a second.


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[Assistant] No, I don't root for guys to get hurt. I don't root for guys to get hurt, but think about this.


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[Assistant] The Bengals, I believe, in week one are favored by three over the Browns. The game's in Cleveland. I think the Bengals, last time I looked, were a three-point favorite in the game.


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[Assistant] If Trevor Simian is playing in that game instead of Joe Burrow,


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[Assistant] That's gonna change the point spread, what, seven points? Maybe more? By the way... Forward a half.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this, one other thing about the pre, I, I gotta tell you, like, and, and we're all part of this, right? Cause football, as you said, football is a monster. There's a, there's a variety of reasons why football has pulled so far away from the other sport. Some of it's, it's the easiest sport to gamble on.


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[Assistant] Is less of a time commitment, right? Easiest. Well, I can't do it. Most people don't even know how to bet on baseball and hockey. It's too confusing. Basketball is similar to football in terms of a foot spread, but like how many times in basketball do you see


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[Assistant] And the corner back knows that nobody's coming to his blind side to knock his ass off. It's different. You can't, you can't as a fan, you, see what you don't understand is,


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[Assistant] Uh, that, that's definitely true. It, it isn't. By the way, do you know what, uh,


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[Assistant] We know in football there's a lot of concussions. Do you know what, in terms of girls, and I think it includes college women,


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[Assistant] Nope, neither. Basketball. Basketball second. Is it gymnastics? Softball. Not gymnastics, no. Volleyball?


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[Assistant] Dance. Maybe you guys sit up close. Cheer. Cheerleading. Oh, that's great. That's the most concussion. I, I never forget this, by the way. I was calling a division three basketball game at the Rochester Institute of Technology. Right? By the way.


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[Assistant] Most of their players at RIT are deaf. Oh, really? And it's pretty cool. I mean, not cool that they're deaf, but it's cool that they are able to play with such good chemistry. They're like a D. They've been at times. Basketball. A pretty decent division three team. Deaf basketball. Not every player on the team is deaf, but there's a lot of deaf students at this school. So we were playing against them.


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[Assistant] And I'm calling the game, right? And at, uh, I don't remember if it was halftime or if it was in the middle of the game, the cheerleading squad from RIT went out and did a routine and they dropped this girl right on her face.


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[Assistant] Let's go yell at Anthony for a second, Anthony.


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[Assistant] By the way, let me screw you up for a second, Anthony. Like when we said it, you don't have to say, we have a PCC read. Just jump into the read.


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[Assistant] Hey Joe, if you need my calf muscle, I got pretty huge calves. I'll give you my calf, I will. Nah, screw him.


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[Assistant] In reality, I don't really tweet about Baker much anymore these days, but every once in a while when I still do, I get people, he's living rent free in your head! Why do you keep tweeting about him? Well, I want you to talk about the Browns. I talk about the Browns all the time.


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[Assistant] That's exactly right. Exactly right. Alright, Anthony, what are we moving to now, buddy?


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[Assistant] That's cause you're a Cincinnati fan. I can't help it with those people. Yousef, uh, you're not a loser. I shouldn't have called you a loser. You're, you're a hater. And you're a negative. But I like you anyway. I don't think you're a loser. Don't be so negative. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] You know, even if you don't maybe have, like as a young player, you're like, well, what the hell am I doing? I don't know what I'm doing here. So you, it can be taught.


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[Assistant] That's fascinating. And that shows you how important the film, like we don't talk about the film a lot. I've been telling people that for two years. No, that's true. And that's why, like, the guys that are working harder have a huge edge. The guys that are putting in more time even if they're less talented.


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[Assistant] We always think about, like, guys' physical talents. Like, coming off the combine, it's like, how strong is he? How fast is he? But it's really about how smart are you? How good a studier, how good a worker you are? You know who taught me that?


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[Assistant] Why is it, you know, cause it literally, all the pitches are basically the same, right? But he's like, how come it's easier for a baseball player to hit if he knows what pitch is coming? That may sound obvious to us, but he's 10 years old, so he didn't really get it. So I explained it to him, but in a way it's similar to that. If you're playing safety,


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[Assistant] Speaking of, that reminds me, uhm, did you see, uh, I tagged you in this tweet.


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[Assistant] I gotta look up the guy's name real quick. Alright, go to number 2 and I'll come back.


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[Assistant] So he, I ran into him, he works at one of the restaurants at the, uh, at the Cleveland airport.


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[Assistant] And I sat down with my son to grab some food and he recognized me and we were talking and he goes, you gotta give my guy Imani Bates a chance. That's what we were talking about. I said, okay, for you.


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[Assistant] This year is particularly bad. He hasn't been very good the last few years, but this year he's been...


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[Assistant] Listen, the guy's not the pitcher he was when he first came over the Mets. Wouldn't stun me though if he had a few decent starts with them.


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[Assistant] Correct me if I'm wrong you could look this up on baseball reference.


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[Assistant] Tim Wakefield. There it is. And Phil Negrow.


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[Assistant] Well, it's definitely bringing up Oscar Gonzalez. Noah Shindigard.


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[Assistant] See, I know you guys obviously talked about the trade yesterday, so I just wanted to chime in. I did a short about it.


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[Assistant] I was a little surprised at first when they traded Rosario for Sindegard. I assumed if they traded him, they would trade him for, uh, a minor leaguer.


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[Assistant] It kind of makes me wonder. See, I think at this point the Guardians are not going to do a full sell-off because they don't have much to sell. Uh, they're not going to trade Bieber because he's hurt.


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[Assistant] But, I wonder, and then I thought, well maybe they got Sindagard because they're going to trade Savali. And then I thought about it and I said, no, the reason they got Sindagard is because


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[Assistant] They have three rookie pitchers and they don't want those guys to throw too many innings.


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[Assistant] So I do like the deal, even though I like Ahmad Rosario better than Sindegard.


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[Assistant] And be a fourth outfielder. I don't know what they're gonna do. I doubt they'll actually do that. My guess is they'll end up platooning Will Brennan and Oscar Gonzalez and Wright. But now, now, whether it's Tyler Freeman or Gabriel Arias, one of those young guys is gonna give a chance to play pretty much every day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and he's been terrible so far, but maybe if he's getting regular playing time, he'll play better. It was time to move on from Rosario. I don't think people need to kill him on the way out. He was a pretty good player for the Guardian.


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[Assistant] And especially, it's a, it's a huge if.


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[Assistant] I'm not counting on it, but in theory, if you had Bieber and Mackenzie back for the playoffs to go with Gavin Williams and Tanner Bybee and Zavale, that's a really good rotation. Now, will they have those two guys?


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[Assistant] I'm skeptical. Neither one's going to be back before September. I'm skeptical that either will be back this year, but if they could, they could be potentially dangerous even with their awful lineup.


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[Assistant] If I'm the Guardians, I'm gonna get a little aggressive and actually go the other way and try to make a trade for another hitter. Uh, I hope they do that.


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[Assistant] And trade away, you have too much, you have so many minor leaguers, you know, you've given away some good hitters, you gave away, you traded Yandy Diaz, he's great for Tampa, you traded Nolan Jones, he's having a good season for Colorado, uh, it's time for them to add a proven hitter, I'd like to see them do that, we'll see.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and I didn't get into the details on the pitcher because I answered that question. I think I was traveling or whatever it was. I don't remember, but uhm.


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[Assistant] Tyler O'Neill doesn't have a ton of value, but he has got a lot of upside if he can stay healthy. He's controllable through next year.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's a good defensive player, he's got speed, he's got power, he's had a bad season, he's been hurt. But I think you get him for a middling...


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[Assistant] So, I don't think you'd have to trade Will Brinson G to get him. Really? Yeaah, no. I think you just trade the prospects. Okay. Uh, I, I, I think you just, I'm fine with getting Gritschick. He's kinda past his prime, I think, at this point. 31. But, I don't know what kind of year he's having. I haven't paid full pretensions in a year.


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[Assistant] See, I don't, this would be a great move by them.


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[Assistant] Couple things, it is only for the year and they're not, he's gonna get a nice contract at the end of the year.


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[Assistant] I don't think the Cubs are going to dump now. I thought they would for a while, but they've actually gotten hot. And they just got back to 500 yesterday with their win. And their division, while it's not as bad as the American league central, it's still not great. They're only, Cubs are only four and a half games out of a playoff spot.


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[Assistant] That'd be nice. That'd be nice to get that. You'd have to give up top, like, unlike, unlike Gritchick and O'Neal, you'd have to give up. The Cubs would, would probably want.


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[Assistant] To get an impact, he's the only impact bat. He's the only massive impact bat on the market. But I actually don't think the Cubs are going to trade him. I think they're going to keep him and try to sign him to an extension.


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[Assistant] All right, those are all, uuuh, that's actually not bad. I mean, Trey, all those guys would help the Guardians. Bellinger would help the most, but he would cost the most. And again, I think after, when you play in a big market like Chicago, if you're in


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[Assistant] They don't be playing that. They'd be like, bro, you try me. I would be kind of pissed now if they traded Belanger. I don't think the Cubs are winning the World Series, but I think they could get to the playoffs and you might as well go for it.


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[Assistant] Uh, they're behind Cincinnati and Milwaukee. Oh. But in the wild card, they're only, so there's, there's like, the wild card right now in the National League is crazy. There's six, there's, uh, six teams within a half a game of each other. And then the Cubs are four games behind those teams. So.


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[Assistant] They traded their closer, David Robertson, not a star, but he's done a nice job as their closer this year when Ed Wendy has got hurt.


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[Assistant] They traded them to the Marlins, who have the 23rd highest payroll. So the Marlins are going for it. And nobody expected the Marlins to be good.


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[Assistant] Congratulations to their GM. You know, the Marlins GM is a woman. First female GM in the history of sports. That's crazy. She's done an amazing job.


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[Assistant] The Yankees are not very good, and who's the third team up there?


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[Assistant] And the Angels, thank you. They're the third team in the top five, and they stay. Now they just went for it. They traded for Carlos Rodin for the White Sox, but I doubt they're going to make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] When Babe Ruth came to the big leagues, I can't remember what year it was, 1910? 12? I don't know.


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[Assistant] He was a pitcher, mostly a pitcher for the Red Sox. Now in those days there was no DH, so he did hit.


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[Assistant] And he was a decent hitter, but he wasn't hitting all the time. He was mostly a pitcher. His last year in Boston, he did both. The whole season. And he was great at both. But that was one year. Then he got traded to the Yankees.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would have said Aaron Judge at the beginning of the season, but he's been hurt for most of the year. Uh, probably Ronald Acuna.


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[Assistant] He leads the league offensively, leads the league in home runs with 38, with triples, he leads the league in triples with 7, leads the league with 62 walks.


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[Assistant] And he's got a 298 batting average of 395 on base. I mean, it's just insane. And then, okay, if that wasn't enough.


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[Assistant] He's got a 343 ERA. He had a couple of bad starts before this last one. Those ERAs, but still 343 is still good. It's not elite, but it's still good. Uh, and he, and he has struck out 156 batters in 120 and two thirds innings. Just, I mean, it's just insane. It's not.


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[Assistant] But even still now, because he brings uh, he brings eyeballs to the TV, to the arena.


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[Assistant] Man, that dude, number six in South Beach is crazy. I think the combination of athletic ability and basketball IQ combined was at its peak when he came back to Cleveland.


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[Assistant] I've heard about this before here, and I can't remember, but how good a football player do you think he would have been?


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[Assistant] Think about that. How tall was Antonio Gates? He wasn't 6'4".


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[Assistant] Great at any sport. Maybe not as good at bat as he is in basketball, but I think he could have played professionally.


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[Assistant] In almost any sport, had he spent. Baseball. Baseball. If he had spent his whole childhood playing baseball and had done it in college, you know, like whatever, like if he, if he was all in on baseball and obviously it's a very different skill set than basketball, football, you know, but I think he's so


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[Assistant] Far and above. Like, I think he's Bo Jackson.


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[Assistant] He's a cheat code. I think he's Bo Jackson and Bo Jackson would have been great in any sport.


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[Assistant] Tomorrow night, Saturday, 12 o'clock. Steve Becker says it's the biggest pay-per-view boxing since Mayweather Paki. Thank you. But that Mayweather Paki fight sucked, didn't it? It did. Because he fought him when he was... These guys only fight when they're old.


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[Assistant] It's a bigger game for the Browns than it is for the Bengals. The Bengals have gone deep into the playoffs the last two years. I agree. The Browns, there's more pressure.


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[Assistant] And, and we're gonna, we're trying to put together a party now to watch this fight because he's telling us how big it is. Is this one of the biggest fights in a long time?


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[Assistant] I don't know. I'm try- I might put together a party. Alright, we got Sean back. Joe, I'm curious. Uhm, when- when you fi- No, I wanna- I wanna add-


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[Assistant] Sean, what is your, I know you fought both of these guys, uh, what is your relationship like, like do you, do you, uh, uh, when you fight a guy, do you, uh, like in Rocky, Rocky and, and, and, and, and, uh, Apollo became friends. Do guys ever become friends? Right. After they fight each other?


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[Assistant] Sean, last thing, having nothing to do with boxing. Are you, how's your confidence level in the Browns right now at the Star Training Camp?


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[Assistant] Oh my god, that was great. It was a rough day for Divas. Yea. That was a rough day.


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[Assistant] Alright, apparently my dog is lost and my son, if he finds out, if we can't find my dog, it's going to be a disaster in my house. So I'm leaving right now. Uh, these guys will stick around for overtime and I'll see, uh, I'm off Monday, but I'll be in the every day after that. So we'll see.


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[Assistant] Hmm, what's in hotel food? Four or five star hotel. Let's try it.