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[Assistant] They're, right now, it's still up in the air. So the first tiebreakers head to head, they're tied. The second tiebreaker is division, they're tied. The third tiebreaker is common opponents. Right now, the Ravens are one game better than the Browns.


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[Assistant] If the Browns win out, I actually think they have a decent chance to still win the division. If they win out, they'll probably have the tiebreaker.


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[Assistant] Yeah, because now they would have, they would have three more common opponents wins, three more. It just depends on what the Ravens do. Right, but if the Ravens go two and two and lose to a couple of common opponents, then the Browns could be the number one. And the Browns win out.


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[Assistant] The only reason it may matter is because they've been way better at home.


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[Assistant] There's been so many quarterback injuries, it's been absurd, right? Ugh. Here's three quarterbacks that have not missed a game this year. Now one of these guys has been banged up, but these three guys, Tuah? Lawrence.


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[Assistant] The Hopkins thing is absurd at this point. I mean, this guy was a terrible long kicker before this year. He was terrible. A terrible maybe strong. He was not good.


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[Assistant] Last year they're not kicking that ball. Not that late in the season. By the way, a related kicker story. How about this kicker on the Cowboys? He has not missed a field goal the entire season. He wasn't even a kicker in college. He played soccer. I think he was drafted by the MLS or something.


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[Assistant] The Colts kicker had been great all year. He missed a field goal early against the Bengals yesterday, then he missed an extra point the next time. It's like he lost it. Well, that's what happens. It's been great for the whole season. You get the yips, it's like cutting.


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[Assistant] He's got, what, 68 field goals slash extra points and he's missed six, I think?


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[Assistant] Because where he was when he caught it, it was... Yea, that was a crazy punt. He's for the most part done a great job. He can flip the field no matter where he's kicking it from.


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[Assistant] Well right now they're moving the ball in offense so they don't need to play Dressel Ball.


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[Assistant] This is a huge injury, obviously, I mean, but the Browns have shown you time and time again.


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[Assistant] Uh, that, that next man up is working. So it's not the end of the world. It's a disappointment. I hope that, I, I, it'd be interesting when Jed Wills comes back, if he does, and we assume he will, will they move Garen Christian, who's not very good either, but better than James Hudson, will they move him to right tackling? I would think.


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[Assistant] I'm signing him to a two year deal, boo. I'm not signing him before, they're not signing him before the end of the season. Come on, he's played two games. He's 39 years old.


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[Assistant] So do we know what the, I don't know what the injury is, but that's what the Browns are saying. He's out. It's either torn and probably torn MCL or I'm fine with the contract. They overpaid him obviously a little bit, but I mean, uh, he's an, I think he's an average safety. I think he's, I think he's above average. He had a great,


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[Assistant] They're spending too much money on the offensive line. They're gonna have to eventually.


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[Assistant] The Rams are a decent team. It's not just because of those two guys. There's other players.


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[Assistant] The Falcons only have a day of reckoning because they didn't get a good quarterback to follow Matt Ryan.


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[Assistant] And that was a swing and a miss. Well, I don't think it's a swing and a miss.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's drafting a running back with a top 10 pick is stupid. They're a stupid organization, that's why they're in bad shape.


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[Assistant] There might, but it's only if you draft poorly going forward. When you have a contract like that, it won't hurt you if you end up with a lot of cheap players. You have to draft really well to make up for that. I mean, who's been crushed by the cap and it killed their team? Who?


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[Assistant] Doing business. Like the Rams don't regret trading, making all their trades.


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[Assistant] I give it a mild thumbs up. A mild thumbs up.


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[Assistant] Yeah. If Stroud plays, they'll be an underdog, a slight underdog in that game. They're not going to be a big favorite or a big dog in any game the rest of the year, including the playoffs. Every game is going to be a toss up and they're going to have a


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[Assistant] No, they aren't gonna revamp, how can you revamp it? They're all highly paid.


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[Assistant] And they're all good. I mean, you know, went healthy outside of Jen Wills. Uh, so no, you can't revamp it.


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[Assistant] An athletic quarterback, you know, sometimes when you move more or you extend plays, you're going to get sacked more. We've seen that with Burrow. The Bengals offensive line did not allow a sack yesterday. How long can he continue?


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[Assistant] I know, I said that before the show. You know what's funny, I was debating between this and a green shirt exactly like this, and if I had known you all were going to wear green, I would have grabbed the green one.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a funny visual. Mike bullying G. Bush, yea. Get over here and just show us out. That's unlikely. Don't underestimate me.


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[Assistant] Mikey, we will talk plenty of Joe Flacco. Happy Victory Monday. We got so many winning fan duel tickets that we're gonna spread them out throughout the week and we're gonna start with the biggest.


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[Assistant] Of the weekend, and we'll get to that in one sec. But first, as the weather gets colder, the NFL offers stay red hot on FanDuel. And right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet that's $150 if your team wins.


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[Assistant] He had the Browns Moneyline, Flacco over Passing Yards, Injoku over Receiving Yards, Cooper over Receiving Yards, Mort over Receiving Yards, Ford over Receiving Yards, and Flacco over half a touchdown. That turned $15, uh, $50 into just shy of $1500. So shout out to Matt. We got a ton of fan duel tickets.


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[Assistant] We'll spread them out throughout the week. A lot of winners on the grounds. Kudos to you guys. Keep sending them to us. But guys, Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] Let's grade the performance as we do every Monday when we play Monday morning quarterback. He was good against the Rams. Was he even better in your eyes against Jacksonville?


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[Assistant] This was gonna be one of my, uh, my McNugget stats, but I'll give it to you now because it's this good and G brought it up. His actual numbers against the Blitz on Sunday. 9 for 12, 182 yards, 3 touchdowns, and a perfect pass rate.


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[Assistant] We're gonna talk a little bit about the Browns defense, but first, as the weather gets colder, the NFL offers stay red hot on fan dueling right now. New customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet.


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[Assistant] So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season.


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[Assistant] But, uh, the defense, four turnovers, three interceptions, two from Newsome, uh, two from Emerson, excuse me, one from Newsome, Myles Garrett.


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[Assistant] Played better than last week. Got a sack in the two point conversion. What were your overall thoughts on how the Browns defense performed against a Jacksonville offense? Missing some pieces, but still pretty dangerous.


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[Assistant] Yeah, hold that for a second. But one thing on Myles Garrett, then we'll talk about the officiating cause Myles isn't the only one with a gripe coming out of yesterday's games. But G, you mentioned Myles with the pass rush rate.


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[Assistant] As for the officiating, Jay, we have the clip from Miles Garrett if we want to play it. And, Miles Garrett, if you didn't hear, you'll hear in a sec.


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[Assistant] Was not pleased with how the officials operated against him. We have two separate clips. This first is on the officials as a whole and the second is on how he specifically is getting officiated.


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[Assistant] So we have two clips, so we'll play the first, then I'll introduce the second, but these are both, Miles Garrett, and these are from Scott Petrak, who is at the game, in the locker room, talking, or at the press conference, talking to Miles after. Here's the first one, Miles, on officiating as a whole.


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[Assistant] And here's the second clip. This is on how Miles himself feels he specifically is being taken advantage of by offensive linemen and the officials. And when you're ready, you could play that clip.


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[Assistant] So guys, thoughts? Is Miles at a point? Or is he yapping just to yap?


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[Assistant] We're going to move on guys. And before we do, I do have a special announcement real quick. And on Thursday night at 7 PM, you guys have asked for a live remote show. Well, we're bringing that to you. We will be live at Caesar's at Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse at 7 PM for a live Cavs watch party. The monsters are playing that night. Myself, Earl, G, Ant,


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[Assistant] At rocket mortgage field house. We'll have more information on our Twitter. Make sure you guys come out, hang out with us. And if you're watching the show today, hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. We appreciate you guys through and through.


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[Assistant] We're not, we're not in the arena, we're in the sports book. Right. Just use the Sherman Williams entrance. Just use the Sherman Williams entrance. And you're good. Come hang out with us. Which means you don't need a ticket. You don't need tickets to the game.


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[Assistant] Alright, so come on, hang out with us. It's gonna be a lot of fun. We promise. The unsung hero, Jay, you mentioned him earlier. The offensive line did a phenomenal job keeping Joe Flacco upright. Not as well in the run game. The run game's gone a little M.I.A. as G. Bush said earlier, but


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[Assistant] We mentioned Joe Flacco's lack of mobility in comparison to guys who are elite escape artists, but he hasn't had to escape, frankly, that often in two games because the offensive line, even with backup tackles on each side, has been really damn good. So how do you explain the progress and the success in pass protection and the lack of success in the running game?


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[Assistant] So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL, an official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show.


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[Assistant] Back to the Stefanski talk. Earl said it, I thought, very eloquently on the post-game show yesterday, but he used the word fluid when describing how the Browns' offenses looked the last two weeks.


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[Assistant] Under Joe Flacco, and it seems to be a nice marriage at least so far between Stefanski and his new QB1, so guys.


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[Assistant] Would you agree fluid is the right word to describe how the Browns offensive look prior to Flacco to how it looks now? Or would you use a different word?


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[Assistant] He's gotta finish. By the way, the odds haven't been updated because the last of the games aren't over, but the odds for coach of the year as of entering Sunday. So once again, these haven't changed a little relevant just to give you a standpoint picture of where it was. Now he'll definitely rise in the rankings.


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[Assistant] But Dan Campbell and D'Amico Ryans were the co-favorites at plus 200. Yeah, Campbell took the game too yesterday. Mike McDaniel was plus 350, and then he has to go all the way down. Entering the game yesterday, Kevin Stefanski was 13 to 1.


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[Assistant] It's a testament to Kevin Stefanski at the end of the day. We got two more things we want to touch on today before we get to some super chats. Our final fan duel read.


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[Assistant] As the weather gets colder, the NFL offers stay red hot on FanDuel. And right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet that's $150 if your team wins.


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[Assistant] Player props, over-unders, same game parlays, and much, much more. So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL.


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[Assistant] Guys, an underrated part of the win yesterday was the Brown special teams. And we saw Corey Bjorkes flip the field from inside his own 10 into the Jaguars.


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[Assistant] I feel really damn good about it. And I'm curious Jason, I meant to ask you before and I forgot. When they drew the Jaguars off sides on the punt that they ended up going for.


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[Assistant] Was that something they designed and schemed up or was that just a random happenstance of good luck?


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[Assistant] On the season, he is 31 of 34 on field goals and 20 of 22 on extra points. So on. So he's missed five kicks.


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[Assistant] What do you guys think, and then we'll move on to our last thing before we get to super chats, but.


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[Assistant] Steve, please play the punt. Jay had confirmed it's the longest punt in the NFL this season that did not result in a touchback. 75 yards. He kicked this from standing in his own end zone. Watch where it lands. Literally a 75 yard boot. Bjorka is not the greatest at pinning him down inside the 20, but when he can let it rip, very few in the league.


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[Assistant] How impressive and where does this rank on the impressive puns you guys have ever seen in your mind?


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[Assistant] That actually brings us right to our next thing. Delpitt signed a contract extension before the game or was announced on Saturday. Then the numbers came out Sunday, three years, $36 million for the Browns.


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[Assistant] Safety who's kinda coming to his own this season more than he had earlier in his career. What did you guys think of the contract? Was it the right numbers and what do you think about him being a foundational piece of the secondary moving forward, G?


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[Assistant] Yea, they drafted Kyle Pitts instead of a quarterback that year.


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[Assistant] Their top ten picks the last couple of years have been Kyle Pitts, Bijon Robinson, and Drake Logan. They've actually drafted the top ten three times and didn't take a look back.


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[Assistant] A mild thumbs up. Love that from you. But alright, we're gonna get to some super chats before we wrap up the show here. And as always, super chats are brought to us by PCC Airfoils. If you're looking for a job with career advancement and great benefits, PCC Airfoils is a leading manufacturer in Northeast Ohio.


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[Assistant] Shout out to Skilly. He said, let's go big victory Monday. Flacco is no stranger to pulling off big wins in Cleveland. My question though is how far do you think this team truly can go? So guys, real quick, we'll answer some of these, but how far can the Browns go with Joe Flacco at the helm?


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[Assistant] Alright, we got a couple, we actually got a lot, so we're gonna run through these. Uh, Sir Gris says, bold, the Guardians re-signed Austin Hedges. That's a fact. No one's happier about it than Anthony. We're gonna talk about that tomorrow. That is a topic for tomorrow. We're gonna dive into Austin Hedges.


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[Assistant] Says, how much of a team culture and credit goes to Stefanski for this truly next man up mentality? No matter who's under center, whoever we lose to injury, it has not stopped us at all.


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[Assistant] Alright, next up, G, you're gonna answer this one. We got a bunch of questions, so we'll get one in person to answer each of these questions. Charlti also says, Why does it seem to be working better with Flacco than the others? Is it just a vet getting through the right reads?


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[Assistant] Alright, shout out to WolfRage, KRThunder, and Earl for gifting five memberships each today. Jay, this question's for you. If Joe is from some OP method,


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[Assistant] If Flacco is the style of quarterback who has made this offense finally pop, why didn't Andrew Berry support this via the draft? Good question. It's a really good question.


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[Assistant] Next up from Buff Gaming. Also wanna see the crowd so confident in the team. Sat in the suite taking it all in with the family. The fans are having fun for the first time in a long time. Derrick Bryson says the fancy gets most out of his quarterbacks. Castle, Cousins, Mayfield, Brissette, and now Flacco. It's time to put some respect on his name.


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[Assistant] Uh, MPC said shout out to the special teams, Bjorkes and 55 Yarder from Hopkins was clutch. Uh, Donnie M asked about Miles comments on being held every play. We talked about that earlier, so make sure you go back Donnie and check out that segment. Dank Nasty ass master.


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[Assistant] Said if he told me in July we'd be 8-5 with Flacco at quarterback, I'd say...


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[Assistant] Quote, well I guess I have to vote to legalize, I guess to vote to legalize weed past, because you're high right now.


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[Assistant] Rackasan1187 said if Tyrese got tackled at the line of scrimmage, there would be a flag every time. Not sure what that's.


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[Assistant] We got a bunch more. Mighty mulatto says Patrick Mahomes, wait, wait, I'ma let you finish. Hold my beer miles. Uh, two eras said the referees suck sometimes. Charles T said the Browns are still first in the league in rushing attempts with 418 bull Jason. Why are fans still screaming to run the ball more?


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[Assistant] Charles C. Allstate, can we redo how good these running backs are with a pole? Elite question mark. Setapartlaz says, our offensive line seems to hold up well with the statuette quarterback. Do you think we need to revamp the O line to play with a more athletic quarterback? Well, you can take this one.


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[Assistant] It's the highest completion percentage for a starter ever through three starts.


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[Assistant] Uh, Mark Anthony Barnes says, bump all that, I think the Browns can still go to the Superbowl, happy holidays. Charles T says, breaking, Stafanski has turned water into Kool-Aid.


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[Assistant] Peter R says Baltimore plays Jacksonville and San Francisco. If they lose, we get the tiebreaker.


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[Assistant] Shout out to Charles T. That's our guy from, uh, I believe he's from London. Charles T. Oh, he got that bag.


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[Assistant] I'm not even gonna say the stats because it'll piss me off. It doesn't matter. He's fine.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they get out. I think it's perfectly fine. It's fine. Perfectly fine deal. Uh, also Charles T is in Germany, by the way. So Charles, shout out for watching from Germany. Shout out to everyone else watching and we appreciate y'all. Everyone who tuned in. How many likes did we get?


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[Assistant] We still got 3,500 people watching, which means there's at least 2,700 in there who have not hit the like button. If you are, hit the like button. Also on Thursday, our first ever live remote show from Caesars and Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse. You can catch us at 7 o'clock.


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[Assistant] Everyone will be there except Jay Casillas to work and Tyvis Casillas in Columbus, but come check us out. The Sherman Williams entrance at Rocket Mortgage Field House. It'll be a Cavs Watch party. They're playing the Celtics that night on the road. The monsters are home, so it should be a packed house. Come hang out with us and G. Bush.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna bully him into bringing some free swag to give out. We're also gonna bring some t-shirts to give out as well, so come hang out with us on Thursday night.


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[Assistant] As in the post-game press conference, or the post-game interview.


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[Assistant] 100%. Look, and I'll tell you a story. So week two last year, Joe Flacco, if you remember,


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[Assistant] The, there was conversation with the Jets a year ago because Zach Wilson wasn't playing. Should it be Mike White or Joe Flacco? And Robert Sala made very clear to us why Joe Flacco was the guy in our production meeting. And so much of it had to do with him just being a grown up in the room, him having all this experience that he's had, the steadiness that he could bring and the mistakes that he wouldn't make.


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[Assistant] And in that Browns game, with two minutes left, of course the Browns are up two touchdowns, it was Joe Flacco walking up and down that sideline and telling his teammates, guys, we still have time, guys, we can still do this. Just speaking with sort of that,


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[Assistant] Experience. He's been in that moment before. And guess what he did? You all know what he did. Sorry, I don't mean to like, drive that steak in you, but...


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[Assistant] This is someone that has a lot of experience. This is someone that's basically seen every single defense. This is someone that's been a pro for a long, long time and knows how to be a pro and DTR is a wonderful


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[Assistant] So, having a strong veteran voice in the room, in addition to Deshaun Watson, who obviously has been available to DTR, as he can be, he's got that surgery and rehab coming up, I think is very, very valuable, and I agree with you. Why make a change right now? I mean, Joe Flacco has been


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[Assistant] Being a dad. He's obviously in shape, but he's been being a dad. He isn't steeped in this offense right now. He hasn't been facing a live rush. I think you go with DTR for as much as you possibly can and hopefully that's the rest of the season. Hopefully he continues to get better and stacks


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[Assistant] Wins, but I think it's a great signing. And did y'all see what happened last night when Travis Kelce crashed the Monday night football set?


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[Assistant] Oh, this is great. Okay, right. So RG3, last week when we got the news, RG3, as you know, earlier in the season was telling the Browns, hey, come get me. And I, just trying to have some fun last week, uhm,


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[Assistant] And last night, Travis Kelsey crashes the Monday Night Football pregame set and he's hugging everybody and he goes to RG3 and he says, Hey, are you going to Cleveland? And RG3 responds, they just signed a Super Bowl MVP. It was great. It was like, you love live TV. Even Travis Kelsey is wondering what the Browns are doing.


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[Assistant] You know, gee, this is so sad, right? You never want anybody to lose a job. You never want to, I mean, what's that awful cliche? Dance on a grave, right? Yeah.


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[Assistant] By the same token, you also, and this is what I sort of took so much heat for last night.


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[Assistant] I feel, Bull and I disagree on this, Bull thinks that there's enough of a body of work to say that Kenny Pickett is nothing and is never going to be anything.


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[Assistant] We are often very, very quick to judge. We were very quick to judge Tua. We were very quick to label CJ Stroud something. We were very quick to say Brock Prudy is not an NFL player. We do this. We cast judgment, but then you put someone


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[Assistant] You know, football is an imperfect game played by imperfect people, and I don't think that you can constantly be coached to fear, throwing past the sticks, to fear.


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[Assistant] Again, I don't know that this is an ideal situation, right? Because the Steelers are going with essentially two offensive coordinators. They're going to have one guy.


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[Assistant] As of now, one guy kind of set up the offense and meet with the media and another guy be the play caller. We saw what happened in Miami when two of his rookie year had two offensive coordinators. So, you know, who knows, but I do think that certainly


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[Assistant] In the city, in the building, not I think, I know the feeling amongst the fan base and in that building right now is, okay, here's a chance at a fresh start.


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[Assistant] I don't know that Kenny is a future Super Bowl champion. I just don't know that he's a bust either. I'm unwilling to write him off right now.


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[Assistant] Right, and Tivus, really quickly, I know that we'll get to you, but I also think that the right situation and the right fit


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[Assistant] Matters so so so so much. You know, it's a conversation that I had a million times with David Carr. Does David Carr have a different career?


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[Assistant] If he doesn't start in Houston behind that offensive line where he gets completely destroyed. I, I think that there are certain players like a Patrick Mahomes and maybe CJ Stroud is one of these players too. I think he's proving us that too, that Patrick Mahomes is going to be great wherever he is, but you could argue that he has been greater.


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[Assistant] Kind of as Alex Smith's understudy. I think everything in the environment around us...


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[Assistant] ...affects who we are and who we can be. Trevor Lawrence under Urban Meyer was different than Trevor Lawrence under Doug Peterson.


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[Assistant] I'm having a hard time thinking that they will completely and utterly collapse.


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[Assistant] I would, I would like to see players make tough catches for their young quarterback. Adam can speak to my blowing up his phone on Sunday as I sat on my couch about that particular topic. Uhm, as he's probably...


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[Assistant] Maybe there is some development to be done and maybe there is some growth to be had. And you also hope that the other piece of it is we're not going to kill Kenny Pickett's career.


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[Assistant] I don't, I really like how Lamar's playing. I really, I think that the Ravens have a very underrated defense. They're not necessarily getting the attention and the splash and...


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[Assistant] All of that, that the browns are, uh, which is understandable obviously.


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[Assistant] But they're still playing really good defense. I think Lamar is, uh, playing as well as I've seen him play. And even though I am saying to you,


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[Assistant] Browns still have a path to the playoffs and to winning.


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[Assistant] Games in the postseason, a game or two in the postseason, I think that when you get really deep


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[Assistant] In the season and in the postseason, you do need a quarterback who can win games for you. And I'm more ready or willing right now to say that Lamar is that guy than a rookie DTR who has two starts under his belt is. I don't, I, yeah, I, um,


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[Assistant] If you're pressed to ask me right now, I think the Ravens win the division and the Browns make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] No, because I think that these are all different things. I, I hate, I hate the injury prone tag.


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[Assistant] Right, like I just think that sometimes it's fair, like think about a guy like J.O.K. who said, you know what, I need to put on just a little bit more weight, not enough to get rid of my speed, but to perhaps create more availability. I love how quickly you do that.


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[Assistant] I think that you have a series of different injuries and sometimes that's just really bad luck.


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[Assistant] I don't know what Joe Burrow can do differently. It's not like he plays recklessly. It's not like he's hyper lean. Uhm.


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[Assistant] Christian McCaffrey is another guy that changed his training to try to stay healthier. It's something that we talked about with him last year and how he was


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[Assistant] I'm not worried about Chobaro at the moment. I think this is very bad luck.


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[Assistant] Are the Bengals done? I think that they probably have the toughest road up ahead of them.


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[Assistant] And that's just because they don't have the defense that the Steelers or the Browns do.


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[Assistant] That, and by that I mean a game-changing defense that can pull out a game for you.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's hard to count them out. There's a lot of veteran players on that team that have won and know how to win. But Joe Barrow is the straw that stirs that drink. So that one's really hard.


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[Assistant] You know, I thought that it would really change that defense tremendously, especially because of the leaders they were too, you know, but.


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[Assistant] I just, you might be right about defense on the whole for 60 minutes. I just think the Steelers have that splash ability.


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[Assistant] You know, you need some big game changing play from TJ Watt and he could do it. You need a touchdown. You need TJ Watt and Alex Heisman to somehow connect in some way on a touchdown and they can do it. You need Minka to pick off some crazy pass and it can happen. Oh, that's totally random. But guys, did you see what Jalen Carter did yesterday?


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[Assistant] I really do. I think the bad blood between the two teams, I think how close they are, two hours apart, I think it's sort of inevitable. And it's a little bit ridiculous because they really don't play the same position. I mean they're both pass rushers, but one's an outside linebacker and one's a defensive end.


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[Assistant] Even still, uhm, I think that that's the nature of it. At least it's what's been blowing up my mentions for a good, I don't know, four or five years. So, there you go.


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[Assistant] TJ has historically had more of the splashy.


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[Assistant] The interceptions, the force fumbles, the fumble recoveries, the things like that.


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[Assistant] But I think we've seen more of that out of Miles Garrett. And if you were putting together a highlight tape, you'd have to put him leapfrogging over a man and then leaping again to block a field goal. Right? What's your favorite play this year?


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[Assistant] He's been perfect for the Steelers and part of why the Steelers have been perfect for him is because of what you said, because there's always outside linebacker, there's always a focus on the outside linebacker position.


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[Assistant] Better players around him. Better receivers in a better line and, you know, all of that. All of these are kind of speculative and hypotheticals and you as a player just hope that you end up in the right place.


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[Assistant] And that you have a staff and an environment that is interested in and can indeed foster your development and your growth.


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[Assistant] Hey, when they came out in the arcades in like 87, 88, and then we all tried to pretend we didn't have anxiety before games and stuff, and then the kind of handheld Gameboys came out, which today we're going to really show our age, but back in the early 90s having those.


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[Assistant] Talking about the Tecmo Bowl and seeing my old school picture here. This is not a shameless plug because the only thing that got me more excited this week was seeing your texts in the download of talking about Joe Flacco and some of the plays. You're pumped about it. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] He let it rip early, with perfect velocity.


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[Assistant] I don't, well, that's the, that's the beauty. You young quarterbacks out there, this is, this is gonna be like a, uh, Masters program we're gonna talk about. What he did out there was Masters coaching reel stuff. I mean, you, you, you go your whole life, there's guys that haven't made that throw and that read on that time.


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[Assistant] We talked about, uh, it wasn't a shameless plug that, uh, Joe Flacco and Dan Marino are two of the three quarterbacks to be in the playoffs their first five years in the NFL. He's 18 years in the, in the league.


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[Assistant] He's, uhm, all the games he's won. He has a macro feel and sense for it. This is genius level timing, uhm, on top of arm talent that


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[Assistant] That's, that throw wasn't, I'm gonna show my age here, but this is Troy Aikman Picasso-like skinny pose throwing.


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[Assistant] Dan Marino throwing timing, and here you are at 38 years old, ripping it out there on perfect, on the skinny poster coupe in that first quarter. Forget the perfect spiral, the sense of timing to where


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[Assistant] You say on the board, we'll draw it up later with 18 to 22 yards. Even the good players get that typically at 21 to 24, 24 yards, 25 where you start bringing in duress for the receiver and, and interceptions. I mean, for him to pull that off the Harrison, Brian.


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[Assistant] Throw in that tight window like that. Manipulating the mic backer to move him just a, uh, a shade. With his eyes, right? With his eyes, just a shade like that. And then to have the confidence to rip it in there.


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[Assistant] Yeah, for young QBs, that's easier said than done, but that's just showing a massive presence of experience. Yeah, but still.


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[Assistant] Spread that field into that intermediate zone where you're dressed at that


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[Assistant] 18 to 22 yards where the Mike Backer, the slot defender, uhm, the safety has to know that I'm gonna complete that ball there. And that ball could get in there from, hey, from me to you, bro, is wide open. And he's hitting balls that aren't even close to that open.


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[Assistant] We'll do it up when we draw it up. Young receivers, this is classic how to run routes. There's a lot of beautiful rules in there that are followed through and for him to let that skinny post go when the DB, that was man technique.


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[Assistant] Hard inside technique, yet Koop still crosses his face and Joe Flacco knows he's gonna cross his face and lets it rip way before Koop crosses the DB's face.


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[Assistant] I haven't been. I haven't been. And I want to temper it with, it's supposed to be 20 mile an hour winds on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Okay, it's gonna be horrible weather. We were in gorgeous LA. I was sporting all the trying to be casual looking good stuff. That was gorgeous. Let's throw in Picasso like weather, okay? We're not going to get...


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[Assistant] Right, and again, it's to have that sense of timing and that sense of belief, okay, when there's massively windy conditions.


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[Assistant] Harder to do, but actually where I was kinda going with that is...


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[Assistant] Tempering for the people that wanna, that wanna crucify him. That, that inside technique skinny posted, he threw like a Hall of Fame quarterback, okay. You can't throw it any better. Amari Cooper, you young receiver, you can't run that route any more gorgeous.


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[Assistant] Okay, but, and, and how they develop that sense of trust and he lets it go and it looks like that gorgeous play that I'm raving about.


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[Assistant] The same almost concept happens on that deep post later in the game. We're down eight points. People are like, the interception. Yeah. How do you make that throw? How does that happen? Okay. You're, you're having a sense of timing. You're trying to kind of guess.


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[Assistant] You're down eight. So many young quarterbacks who aren't winners. So many guys would take the check down. Hey, okay, I'm not gonna take it. Look, we were about lost at that point in the game. We were down eight.


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[Assistant] That's a guy trying to win and that's that same kind of presence and experience. And he's really.


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[Assistant] Guestimating with his experience, that sense of timing. That's where he's going to be. That's where he's going to expect him to be. But he got off a little bit with a guy in his face. Sure. Okay. It didn't happen. Yeah. Again, we had gorgeous protection again on that skinny post. I mean, coach Callahan and


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[Assistant] Our guys up front again to handle Aaron Donald and to, again, throw the skinny post to Coop to throw the Harrison Bryant one that we're going to talk about.


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[Assistant] Again, one or two plays were off than an interception play was, but that comes with, with trying to be great like that and trying to win the game as opposed to just, he could have taken a check down there. Sure.


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[Assistant] But, you know, maybe part of it too is, and I'm not trying to just pull this out of my backside, okay, but part of it too is you get a little stale from all the work the guys do from OTAs, the off season, summer camp, mini camps, training camp, the beginning of the season. Sometimes you start hitting a wall.


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[Assistant] And when you bring in a new breath of fresh energy and experience, a guy with that type of arm talent


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[Assistant] It really kind of reinvigorates you and people. And I actually see, looks like I'm reinvigorated. I mean, I flew, I red-eyeded in here.


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[Assistant] And I could see this almost, I could see almost this reinvigorated of the cues in the receiver room. I mean, heck, if I'm a receiver and I know I could catch the skinny post, and here's the beautiful thing off of this with Wynn, when you know the skinny post with the DB who got inside technique, because I lost


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[Assistant] But now you think about it, you got on film, a guy's gonna rip a skinny post when you know I got inside technique. And that guy was a full yard inside, knowing that, oh my god, Titan was a stance.


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[Assistant] I'm in a yard inside, I'm probably gonna be set up for an outroute, a bow out and stuff. Now they got the stones to cross my face and let it rip a skinny post? Boy, I'm running over top of you too. It gets in the head of the defensive back. Oh god, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Look at, uh, Browning just, uh, threw up 34 points on these guys. The backup Q, the, the Jacksonville Ds, that's in their head. They can't be thinking how sweet they are now. Trevor Lawrence is out.


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[Assistant] So, you know, you could really play the mental game with the Jacksonville DBs, cause they gotta look at this on film.


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[Assistant] And he says, you don't play all these years and go to all the playoffs with not being your own worst enemy. So he's absolutely running through that analogy himself. He's running through.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was gorgeous out there. The weather was so ripe for throwing. Uhm, Aaron Donald and, and that was decently unhandled during the game and that.


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[Assistant] We talked about this in the Denver game with DTR. We wanted probably more running plays in that game. Okay, I love coach Defanskinna. It was gorgeous, uhm, weather, uhm, uhm, but we could have probably wanted more running plays.


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[Assistant] Two games were thrown 60 to 65% of the time. So our breakdowns for the data analytics that the Jacksonville Jaguars are doing on us is a pass centric team. So we'll have those analytics. Hopefully they're going to play pass coverage against us.


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[Assistant] So help me God, we already talked about the wind, the weather, and the possible rain on Sunday. Please Lord, let's run the ball more, Joe. I love your arm. Let's strategically rip them fades, skinny pose, and let's come to the game running because Jacksonville now,


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[Assistant] With Trevor Lawrence out there, they're gonna be trying to manipulate and


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[Assistant] Game, manage the game. Let's not give them a shot and let's take it to them.


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[Assistant] So I like to go against, I like to go against what I've been doing on film. So my last two games, we all agreed with us throwing the ball a lot, okay, but in the Denver game and in the,


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[Assistant] In the Rams game, we threw the ball excessively a lot. So on film, Jacksonville sees excessively a lot. So I really want to run the ball early. Okay, I want to run the ball early.


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[Assistant] This is about us. It's December now. November is positioning month. Okay, December it's winning month. It's about us. I could win. Okay, you're the top five, top ten. You're the sixth. Okay, good for you. We're gonna find out. Okay, we're gonna find out early Sunday.


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[Assistant] They're going to see passing on our stats. They're not going to really be sure. We don't, we don't overly talk about what we're going to do. But with that, with that, I would really take it to a more in the run.


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[Assistant] I wish the game would have been a little better, but the Browns fans, the Southern California Browns backers, god you guys matter, you're awesome, everything you did out there for us.


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[Assistant] It was, it was more Browns fans and stuff. I, I kind of love how sports guys kind of like these, uh, being musicians and kind of the musicians, uh, kind of like wanting to be the sports guys. So, you know, to, uh, to be with, uh,


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[Assistant] So he got his Hollywood Walk of Fame on Monday, so I was honored to be at the ceremony on Hollywood Boulevard being part of that ceremony.


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[Assistant] And it's awesome, we're talking about some of the cool people I hung out with, some of the coolest things I did last week, it was the spiritual healing and


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[Assistant] Retreat that I'm doing. So now is uhm, you know, you're trying to get healing and have that kind of mode, mode with that. I don't take any consolation in Trevor Lawrence or Kirk being out, but this is just about football and we're talking about just what do I think about the W or the L on Sunday?


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[Assistant] And again, I don't want to go from this solemn seriousness, but I will go almost to my happiness that Joe Flacco played because that's damn well happy and it really helps out for us right now. So, you know, one of the concerning things that I took out of the Rams thing that I, we all probably should have knew, but our defense, so awesome.


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[Assistant] You know, uh, uh, at home, first in the league, but we were 30th on the road and it kind of showed up, you know, unfortunately those last two weeks in Denver and in LA, but heck, that's not, that's the past. It's now about the present. We're at home now, Beathard here. It's not Lawrence. Now crowd noise is an issue.


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[Assistant] You know, with a backup cue, let's take it to him early. And that's also why I really want to run the ball early. Taking no chances at making a mistake because I don't really see how Jacksonville without Kirk and without Trevor Lawrence comes in here and


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[Assistant] Do anybody think they're going to score 20 points unless we give it to them? So let's not give it to them. Let's, let's take it to them early and let's physically start dominating because they will wear down. Coach Callahan has worn down everybody's knee line.


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[Assistant] Hey, NIL, with young kids out there, and QBs and receivers in particular, understanding where's the right places and what's the right systems, and just actually right now talking to some people online about


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[Assistant] Um, what we're talking about, how to throw the skinny post, how to throw the middle read, how to make sure it's done 18 to 22 yards. So many people don't know where to go and kids could get lost in the wrong system. So yeah, there's a whole money component to it, but also it kind of helps kids, um, find the right system. Get with the right coach. Yeah, because I mean, that's the big.


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[Assistant] We've been, we've been conditioned, okay? This, I wanna be humorous, I wanna answer the question, but I wanna be spiritually fine because I don't wanna be fired for being inappropriate jokes and stuff. There was no holidays back when we played.


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[Assistant] There is, we used to say the joke, we, we, uh,


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[Assistant] We will be home for Christmas, the Bing Crosby song. You don't want to be. Like, it was like, uh, it was like the 11th commandment. You'd rather, God, I don't want to even say this in the holiday season. You'd rather be dead than not in the playoffs and stuff.


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[Assistant] The holidays have been apathetic to the teams and because we haven't been playoff relevant.


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[Assistant] And Art Modell, people used to say, I'm gonna show my age. He goes, I don't care if people love me or they hate me. Don't become apathetic to me. Yes. And I believe maybe, I don't, maybe not today, December 7th. God bless, uh, Pearl Harbor and our Americans and everything that's happened and stuff.


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[Assistant] A lot of people, you know, football isn't as important as it was back then and they are apathetic to that and of other things because my kids think I'm an idiot, okay, for doing this bad stuff. They've never seen us win.


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[Assistant] Oh, and even the ramifications of, look at what I, you did my whole youth of going to what, looking, these guys throw their helmet off and lose a game and you don't spend Sunday with me. You know, I mean, like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I was hot, I was hot in the moment. I was hot in the moment, but yeaah, yeaah. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, listen, uhm, you look at the rest of the schedule and it's a funny way that these things play out, right? These things play out like this, you know? You look at the situation when you play the schedule game, oh you should win that game, you can win this game, you can win that game.


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[Assistant] But this is the NFL. And the way the NFL works is injuries are part of everything that you're doing.


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[Assistant] So now you look at the schedule moving forward. A lot of people said, I thought it was going to be a tough game. I picked the Browns to win.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but with the way they came out and the game plan they had, I think it put them behind the eight ball. You look at the schedule moving forward, uhm, the Texans are...


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[Assistant] A good football team. Texans are good. Jacksonville is a good football team. Uhm, the Rams now have Kyron Williams back. Uhm, it looks like they got Matt Stafford back and they played well yesterday. You know, uh, you watch the Cincinnati Bengals.


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[Assistant] They're not, they didn't roll over and die for the Pittsburgh Steelers. As you look at all these games, these teams are going to be way tougher opponents because you do not have a quarterback. You don't have the quarterback situation figured out. And which brings me to the thesis, you know, the Cleveland Browns, if sometimes it feels like the Browns feel


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[Assistant] That if they win an ugly game by running the ball and playing solid defense, that they've earned the right the next game to just throw the ball all over the park.


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[Assistant] That's not an option. Like right now you have to look at what you got in your stables.


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[Assistant] You, you got a guy who's, who's carrying the ball, you know, 7.6 yards per carry. And he only, he only gets the ball, I believe, nine times. Uhm, if you look at the run to pass ratio, the Broncos were the home team with the better health, more healthier, uh, roster. And they came out without a quarterback and ran the ball more than the Browns did with a rookie quarterback.


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[Assistant] This is just what you're going to get. There are times Kevin Stefanski can play a dangerous game like he did last week, right? And then you come back this week.


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[Assistant] And the game plan is just different. So for me, the Browns, you have to look at the beer and say, okay, if we have this roster.


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[Assistant] If we don't run the ball and we don't play a certain style of football, we're not going to win these games. It's not as if the Browns are getting healthier, if they're going to get more help and they're not going to get any more quarterbacks. They have to play a certain type of style to win. That's not optional. I just think they, they, you know, they didn't do that in the beginning of the game and it cost them.


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[Assistant] You got your stats ready. You got your phones ready. Valuing effort. Mike, you mean nuggets? If you take this out, this was a beautiful situation. I love the coordinated effort. This whole entire game plan.


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[Assistant] And the reason why is because his main issue is this. He out thinks himself. Team has worked with the worst run defense in the game. How's about we just come out and throw it?


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[Assistant] No, good teams say worst run defense in the league, we're running it till you stop it. And the statistics in the data show that when they ran it, they were getting gaping holes. It wasn't as if they were stout up there. It was like, here, Jerome four, six, here you go, give him the ball, seven.


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[Assistant] But instead of going to, to what they know they can do.


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[Assistant] They ran the ball 4,000 times against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Much better defense. Baltimore Ravens, guess what? They ran, they had to establish something. They had to establish something against the San Francisco 49ers. The reality of this situation is they came in and they got tricky.


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[Assistant] I like some of your trick plays, Kev, but let's just be honest, man. You're gonna get eviscerated.


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[Assistant] If you're, if you're tidying your backup tight end, drops the snap. It's what's gonna happen. You gonna take that L every time.


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[Assistant] Because people are going to say, dude, who the hell's around the league puts a second team tight end in the game? I swear up and down, this man, Harrison Bryant is probably in his family. Did he marry somebody in Stefanski's family? Is he a brother-in-law? I need to know. Is he in the will somewhere? Because this, you're going to get killed if you do that. And the reverse. Oh Lord. I understand they ran into practice, but any sort of defensive lineman,


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[Assistant] Let me, let me tell you what they tell defense linemen to do. If you are in a position where you see guys moving around and in a trick position, you hit your best move off the line. Don't be involved with no linemen. You ain't gotta put hands on nobody. Get your swim move on. Die, move out of the way, get in the backfield.


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[Assistant] You cannot run that play there with PJ Walker, a third team running back, and Elijah Miltmore, who has never run a reverse good this year. We haven't run a reverse for any positive yards, and ever. Why are we continually going to the reverse like that's money?


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[Assistant] No, I hope not. I mean, I'm not actually, I'm not saying fire the guy. I'm not saying put him on a stake or anything. But what I am saying to you is there is a fact of the matter that Kevin Stefanski in pivotal times


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[Assistant] Maybe not any. When you have that, that's not a play. And here's another thing that I think people are missing.


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[Assistant] We don't have the team. We started the season with guys.


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[Assistant] Even though it may be a good idea, you can't put your young, inexperienced players in those positions and hope that they're gonna make it.


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[Assistant] A serious injury. What that being said, what do you think the game plan is next week? You're playing the Rams, you're gonna have to run the football.


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[Assistant] Like, because you don't have a mobile quarterback, Joe Flacco is probably gonna play. Now here's the thing, I'm not as down on Joe Flacco as the rest of the camp. I think Joe Flacco will come in.


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[Assistant] There's certain things you don't have to tell Joe Flacco. There's certain things he probably won't be confused about. The problem is, can he get the ball there if he knows what's coming? And does he have the mobility to get out of the way? That's my concern. That's just it.


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[Assistant] I never thought that we do, people say no must wins. Oh no, no, you gotta, you gotta win this Rams game.


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[Assistant] Like, you got an opportunity. You just said Joe Burrows out of it. Herbert's out of it. Josh Allen's out of it. Those three teams where people had those penciled in. You gotta go out there. That's why this game against Denver.


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[Assistant] I think athleticism. He's athletic, got his big arm. Uhm, I think he, uh, he's resilient. Like, some of the, some of the times when guys drop the ball, he's like,


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[Assistant] But it could have went to the sideline, you know what I'm saying? You don't want to catch it on the sideline. In the moment when you throw it, somebody drop it, okay. Throw your hands on your helmet, okay. Let's get back to it. But that's like a pitcher who made it short.


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[Assistant] I tweeted this out. I said, I got a theory. My theory was Kevin Stefanski came into the game thinking, you know what?


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[Assistant] I could run the ball a bit, play it safe, but, uh, you know what? I'm not gonna do that. I'm using the Citizen in Audition. I wanna see what DTR got.


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[Assistant] I wanna see whether or not, if I give him a whole playbook, he can read his progressions. If we got into a playoff game, could I call a game that I want to and let the chips fall where they may to see if he can pick it up? So in my opinion, when I looked at it and was like, okay, we threw the ball that, that no many times in the first half, we threw the ball.


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[Assistant] That was by, by design. He wanted to see, can you do this without the training wheels? And at the same time, he's thinking to himself, we seven and three, we could probably be seven and four if we take this L. Not saying he did this on purpose and was trying to lose the game, but he's thinking in his mind, do I need to go to back, do I need to go to Joe Flacco's suit or later? Is it, is it, because at the end of the day, it's a long shot for the Browns to win the Superbowl.


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[Assistant] It's a long shot, especially given the fact that they have the injuries.


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[Assistant] And, and he needs to figure out what Mikey McNuggets said best just a second ago. What does DTR do best? What is he good at? Are there some throws that he likes that I think, wow, we can really build something around?


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[Assistant] You know, it's rough because what he's doing is...


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[Assistant] Everything about defensive finish is your punch, everything is about your get off, everything is about your hand work, your push pull, uh, uh, just being able to dip and rip and get around and run the hoops. You know, look, that position right there, look at that, like that position right there, Miles Garrett is in that position.


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[Assistant] Right, so that, you know, you're asking a man to not only hold his 275 pounds up, upward himself,


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[Assistant] You're asking him to, to leverage the force of another 300 plus pound man that's on his, on his shoulder as well. Plus, you gotta think about it like this. You gotta watch the crack back blocks coming down the line of scrimmage. You gotta watch for tight ends, double teaming, the run, the running backs to get a chip.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be getting that shoulder touched or hit pretty much every single play. That's the unfortunate part about playing in the trenches. There's no days off in the trenches. Even if it's a run or a pass, you gotta touch another grown man. It's warfare. It is what it is. So, you know, this is one of the biggest blows for the Browns.


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[Assistant] And you'll start to see it now, like a lot of people that give Miles Garrett this unfair criticism, or he should be doing more, well you gonna see now.


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[Assistant] Oh, you gonna see if Miles Garrett is not out there, the difference between what your defense looks like here and there. It's just like, you know, if you got a routine and you're taking supplements.


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[Assistant] You know, let you stop taking them supplements for about a week. See how strong you are. See how strong you are as you get back in that gym. You're like, dang!


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[Assistant] Man, uh, Greg, Greg Newsom might, he might be, you know, I know you want that big deal for the outside. It looks like that, you look like a slot corner right now, dawg. He's fine as a piece, he's not the piece. Yeah, I mean, when Cortland, I thought they was going to put Emerson on him. You see what Emerson did to Judy? I mean, he basically got him off the game.


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[Assistant] In a pass game, but in a run game, there's been two or three times these last few weeks where Red Newsom is whiffed on the warm play, he whiffed in the hole. On this play, it was a sideline catch, something made the ball, called the rock.


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[Assistant] Tackling is huge in this defense, especially for your corners if you've got a lot of guys in press man coverage.


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[Assistant] Well that's a good spot for them. They are combining, yes. They may need, listen, I'm gonna be honest, they may need two quarterbacks. They may, if DTR can't go ahead and protocol, I can't put BJ Wall. I can't have him be my backer. I'm sorry, I just can't. He's a, like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you look at the way they were running the ball and they were running these trap plays. They noticed something with our defensive tackles being in two eyes, which is, you know, inside shoulder to the guard. That's a large gap to be covered by takitaki. And I just thought they did a good job of running trap plays, really quick plays in the middle.


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[Assistant] And our defense alignment didn't do a good enough job of shortening the gap, which is basically saying,


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[Assistant] Pizza, pizza, pizza, pizza. That play, they took a play out of the Indianapolis Coast Playbook. Gardner Mitchell was killing us on the read option. They did it one better. They said, listen, we're gonna identify who it is.


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[Assistant] And then we're going to pull our running back leading out to block.


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[Assistant] Mark Sanchez gets excited because he's, oh that's a touchdown, because he realized that the running back was not even in there to get the wall. That was a design run.


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[Assistant] Awful read-ops and look, and Myles Garrett crashed down, which is his responsibility to take away the run. However, they had a lead blocker in front of him, he goes for 13 or 14 yards, and then they flipped the play and ran it back the next time.


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[Assistant] So I thought that uh, Russell Wilson did a good job.


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[Assistant] Of just slowing the pass rush down by doing little things like that to make them aware that hey, I can pull this thing down and run.


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[Assistant] Looked unblockable. He, he, he, look, he was just running around underneath blocks, over top blocks. Even when you blocked him, he still had a great job of tackling the guy in the backfield. Even when a guard was on him. I thought he played with speed. I thought he played great.


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[Assistant] There's a thing to be said about it, and I've played where, and this isn't as bad as this, but I've played where we ran the triple option. And so if you talk about compromised quarterback play, there's no more compromised position than being down 10 points and guys are running fullback dive in the triple option. And there's a level of, I don't know, it's a level of, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] They know it. Like, hey, like you said, when they went down and they scored, you wanted the offense to get the ball right back.


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[Assistant] There's a thing for a defender like, man, there's, it's just fatigue because you're like, we can't give up this, we can't give up that, the normal stuff we can't, just being able to have to carry the load for pretty much the whole team, it gets to you after a while, and compound that with,


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[Assistant] They played more zone coverage than I've seen. Well, they had to, right? Yea, they got to. Because they, I see them, I see Sutton break off a traditional regular degular en route.


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[Assistant] And I knew from that point, I was like, oh, we in for one. They're going to have to play some zone back here because this is not a man that you could put man to man, you could put somebody on like that.


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[Assistant] Oh no, that's, see, human nature is a, is a, is a monster, right? The same way we be at home, right?


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[Assistant] And they got that little, uh, that, that after the fumble reverse.


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[Assistant] That was a wrap. That was done. They felt the same emotions we did. They felt the same thing because they're like, we in it, we in it.


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[Assistant] Uh, we just need a couple things to fall our way, but when that sudden change, and they practice sudden change, right? You know, they do it in tamp, and they do it during the season, and we practice, you know, being able to come off the sideline and come in and stop them, hold them to a field goal. But there's a certain thing that they ain't gonna help for. One of them is...


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[Assistant] Yeah, you had sudden change and Miles Garrett looked like he hurt. That's a wrap. And you know you down the corner.


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[Assistant] And your quarterback had just gone out. And you got PJ Walker in. So they're like, I am not about to go out here and get injured. I still got to come back next week and get to Rams. Fold it, fold it up. It looked like one of them games where it's a back to back NBA. It's a back to back night NBA.


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[Assistant] What I mean, what I mean he didn't give you anything is he didn't give you anything to eat off of.


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[Assistant] Well hopefully this is a, it'll serve as a reminder. Will it?


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[Assistant] Well, listen, he played a dangerous game last week. He's gonna have to play some more dangerous games. Like, especially if it's Joe Flacco. You can't line up and read option with him. So you're gonna have to have a


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[Assistant] Or if he gives him the reps, or you give him the reps, he comes back, he gets jarred again, or gets, you know, roughed up a little bit. Now what do you do? You got PJ Walker and Joe Flacco with no reps.


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[Assistant] This is the way I think about teams from now on. I said it was going to be a tough game against Denver. There are no bad teams in November.


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[Assistant] I believe there are no bad teams when the November and December hit.


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[Assistant] I think, I think they can, the Browns, this is so, this is the NFL. The Browns can beat anybody on that, that list. They can also get beat by everybody on that list.


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[Assistant] They don't have a bunch of Manziel's or Josh Gordon's and they usually total line. You don't have disciplinary stuff like that and the guys, you know, they got a good leader, leadership pool of guys in there. I don't think you have to worry about that.


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[Assistant] If, if you, if, if you worry about extracurriculars or they got anybody on this team that's worried about going out clubbing, doing different things, then


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[Assistant] That's the old Browns. I'm expecting y'all to be locked in. You got a great opportunity. You seven and four. Everything you want to do is in front of you and you guys is out moving around like that. Like that's just not, that's something terrible teams do. You can be on a one in 10 team and do that, but I expect the guys.


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[Assistant] To, to have some sort of restraint and, and, and to like lock in, it's a great opportunity. Hey, I'm thinking about, hey, let me, I'm in LA, let me get two picks in LA. Let me, let me get some sacks in LA, especially for these young guys, cause there's some opportunities for these young guys to play. Y'all should be in y'all playbook.


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[Assistant] Be ready to go, because Miles looked like he might, uh, you know what it is? Hey, listen, hey, oh boy, what's his name? I can't, I lost him, forgot his dog. No, the receiver. Cedric Tillman. Have a day. You out west, have a day, son. We've been asking about you all year. David Bell, where are you at? You good?


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[Assistant] I don't, it's harder than it looks. Like, you know, you see the guys go out and run raps, right? But when you design and place...


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[Assistant] You know, you gotta decide, okay, on this play, I got certain coverage. So depending on that coverage, I could run four different routes.


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[Assistant] And you gotta see the same coverage, and the quarterback gotta see the same coverage. And then on top of it, he has to make line calls. So okay, to give me enough time to even throw that football. So you just out there with two people, believing on, living on faith.


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[Assistant] Like, and I gotta throw this ball and hope in my heart of hearts that you saw the same thing I did. And when I get up from the ground, I look up, they say first down.


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[Assistant] But you could get up from the ground and look up and it could be a pick six. You could get up and look to say it's a tip ball. It takes a lot to be on the same plate. That stuff is thousands and thousands of reps. Not to mention that a lot of these drop balls, and I'm not giving nobody excuses.


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[Assistant] The spin is different on every football. You talking about from Deshaun watching how he throws it.


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[Assistant] To how D.G. Arthur throws the ball, to P.J. Walker, all of those things, all those quarterbacks have different cadences. Some are going to hold it a little longer, some of them might look to extend plays, and you as a receiver have to just be there by osmosis. It's very difficult to play receiver and quarterback in a league.


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[Assistant] It's very important, and the reason I think it's important to make the playoffs and have all hands on deck and be, do whatever you need to do to make the playoffs, I don't care if you gotta play three of the quarterbacks in the same game.


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[Assistant] Just figure out a way to get a win and do it in a way. Just for the playoff experience. Because think about it. Think about it this way. If you don't make the playoffs,


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[Assistant] Everything that you have in the offseason is a question mark. Everything. People still don't know about Deshaun Watson. People don't know if Nick Chubb is coming back.


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[Assistant] People don't know if Jedrick Wills is the real left tackle. People don't know, where's this playbook we were told? It's the office. Everything you've been taught, and they're not- That's the Y Receiving Group look like outside of Cooper, who, you know- Who we said they might not be able to pick that contract up as a deal. They got to now, right?


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[Assistant] So if, if you go in the off season with all of them question marks, and guess what? It's Coach Stefanski's last year. That's a question mark. But if you go to the playoffs?


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[Assistant] So if you could make the playoffs with the patchwork kids that you got right now, everything will, will have Asterix to say, how about those Cleveland Browns? And that's why they got everybody coming back. You're going to feel so good going into the next. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] My vitriol, if you notice, I don't have very much vitriol behind the commentary because, look.


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[Assistant] Let's be clear, like, this is what we're dealing with. I mean, there's massive amounts of people. You cannot, you cannot, the, the injuries, you cannot over gloss and ignore that. And the quarterback play here one, off one, off one, here's playing, he's not, that can't, but here's the great thing about it.


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[Assistant] I ain't got no love. Listen, I ain't got no love for no stealer. Get him a potter here.


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[Assistant] Here's how I feel about it. Listen, when you had as many injuries as me, the Lord has told me that I can put non-career-ending injuries on people. I wish you'd pull up with a hamstring, DJ Watt. I hate DJ Watt, and his sack dance is, he's got the lamest sack dance in his career ending. No, not career, just, you just


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[Assistant] In that case, I could wish a mild growing.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, the Pittsburgh fans have spoken. You gotta go.


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[Assistant] To me, this may be controversial, I'd go get Urban Meyer again. No, he ain't coming back. I'd rather have Luke Fick.


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[Assistant] You're right, he, he is not, listen, this dude, listen, you can tell, he, when you saw, he's like, Harbaugh is out here running it right now. He's like, give me another shot, bro. Listen, listen, that, that NFL stuff, people are talking about that.


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[Assistant] I haven't. You're right. Jay, when you look at, when you look at the skill positions...


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[Assistant] There's other good players in college. But I mean, when you got Garrett Wilson, Alavi, Jackson Smith and Jigba, and, and you lost, what's the name, the kid that went to Alabama.


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[Assistant] No, he came to Ohio State and transferred. He transferred. You still had Maserati Marv. You had them five, Jamison Williams. You got them five, and you had CJ Stroud, and you... You can't think Michigan was CJ Stroud.


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[Assistant] And that's kind of how it turned out to be. I think the downfall that nobody's really talking about is they are regular on defense. That is not an Ohio State.


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[Assistant] I'll give you two guys. Davos Sweeney is on the hot seat.


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[Assistant] But if you could get rid of Jimbo Fisher, with all that money they owed him, and he had number one recruiting classes, it's coming.


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[Assistant] And, and as they say, the world famous Ohio State, Ohio State standards is tippy, tippy, tippy top.


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[Assistant] I like Nickelback. It's popular. It's popular to make fun of Nickelback. I don't know why. But if people didn't like them, why would they have sold as many albums as they did and been around for as long as they have? They've become a joke. They're not a joke. They are.


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[Assistant] Oh, so you would know that because of the Marvel. So, so yeah, he got Marvel. Yeah. DC. Uh, DC. Yeah, my bad. Uh, busy show, busy show, busy show.


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[Assistant] Could still play, but us pretty good indicator. W is going to come on, you kno team is a team, they're int


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[Assistant] And so he's going to tell us all about the timing of the Browns catching the Rams and what we're, what we're in for.


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[Assistant] handled Cardinals team ve as we did. So I think th a lot of similarities betwe and we're also going to lo like when it came out, yo do, you play schedule rul win, win, loss. Well, t


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[Assistant] And some of those things that have happened, uh, really benefit the Browns at the time that they're getting certain teams. So we'll go through and play, uh, schedule roulette, revisionist history, how those games look today compared to when they, uh, when the schedule first came out.


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[Assistant] Uh, and now it's time for our first hello of the day to Mikey McNuggets.


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[Assistant] Can we do something real quick on the playing tournament? I don't want to be a topic. Do we like this? Because I don't. Do you guys like it? No interest. No interest. For $500,000 I do. For the players? Wow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I just, I've seen almost no buy-in from the fans at this point. Minimal. Obviously the Die Hard NBA fans are gonna watch it anyhow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but then you're, then you're making a strong team already stronger and the whole idea of the draft is to make, help the weak teams. But if you get teams like, I mean, I don't know dude, I mean. Well the Lakers, Celtics and Bucks are in it.


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[Assistant] I think for the championship game there will be some interest. Other than that, probably not. I mean, you there, you might as well go hard. But the whole idea, the league did this because they're trying to draw them up interest in the regular season. I don't think it worked. Okay, uhm, let's dive in and talk about the, you want to start?


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[Assistant] I find it interesting that you said that because the undersized linebackers, that's why they're going underneath. Is this something that you can coach into guys? Do you have to tell them to be less aggressive on certain plays?


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[Assistant] But the thing, I mean, there's a pattern here. The Browns defense, when they have struggled, it's mostly been against teams that have mobile quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Ravens, yeaah. They didn't struggle against the Steelers. They gave up one big play in each game. In both games, they gave up a 75 yard play and that was half their yardage. They struggled against Colts when Minshew was running a lot, struggled against the Ravens defensively, Gilmar, and then they struggled this past week against Denver.


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[Assistant] This week you don't have to worry about that. Now, and their passing game, I don't know, listen, Kyron Williams is a


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[Assistant] They have lost, they did lose three in a row and I think four or five before that and he missed most of those games. Their passing game is not great right now. Uh, Cooper Cubs not the same player anymore. He's been injured on and off all season. He hasn't been put in numbers. But the Nakula find was big for them too. He was, but he's cooled off since early in the season. He hasn't been as, as big since then.


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[Assistant] And Matthew Stafford at this point, he's not special anymore. He's, he's just a guy and I, I, I think ultimately it's gonna come down and those are ridiculous numbers. I was about to say he almost got a thousand.


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[Assistant] If you get pressure on him, it's a problem. Cause he cannot, he is totally immobile there. And the question is, will Miles Garrett be in good enough shape for this game? Cause I think we all assume he's gonna play. Like if he can play, he's gonna play. I agree. Who the hell he is. The question is, will he be effective enough to cause the havoc to make Stafford uncomfortable? And outside of last week,


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[Assistant] The Rams have had a hard time converting in the red zone. Last week they didn't. Last week they scored. Well, they got their backs against Arizona. They got their back back. The combination of Arizona and Kyren Williams. Right. The Browns obviously have been good in the red zone defense, but, uh, they're going to need to be, I mean, Kyren is the biggest concern.


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[Assistant] No, we've seen it. That's amazing. We've seen it. In fact, G. Bush called him a jag and he wheeled that bag.


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[Assistant] That's why they really are complimentary. We talk about it's a passing league, but the two elements of offense are very complimentary. The run can set up the pass, the pass can set up the run, and when you have an offense that's balanced and can do both well, you've got a winning team. It's devastating.


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[Assistant] It did. It felt like a lot more than that as you were watching the game. I was surprised when I looked at his numbers at the end. I thought, damn, it felt like he threw it around a lot more than that.


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[Assistant] They did, exactly. It's the same number. Uh, the Browns were 6th in pass attempts this week. Who passed more? I bet Philly.


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[Assistant] Arizona, Detroit, Washington, and the Chargers. Four of those five lost.


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[Assistant] They all lost. Josh Allen. No, didn't. What was the second to last one?


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[Assistant] Actually, Minshew, he was tied for 6. Browns were tied for 6 with Minshew. He won. He threw 41 passes. And Trevor Lawrence threw 39 and won. And they won as well.


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[Assistant] But, I mean, I don't know if it's a trend or not, it's one week. Typically you're right, when a team throws that many times, they're usually throwing because they're behind.


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[Assistant] Talk about that, the attrition that G. Bush talked about, because I've had players tell me exactly what G. said. The month of December is its own schedule. It is. So how do players condition themselves for that? How do practices change? How do games change?


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[Assistant] Oh, okay. We still haven't heard anything on him. I asked around yesterday and they said some people didn't know. Yea, they had. We'll find out today. The guys that missed last week's game, there were no updates on Monday on any of those guys. And even yesterday, I mean, obviously it was an off day. Yea, yesterday was an off day. So today we'll probably have a better clue between what Savansky says and practice.


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[Assistant] You need at least one out of Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward. I think you need two. I really do. I can get, Taki Taki can make it.


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[Assistant] Again, I don't know what the grades on him are, but just eye test, he's been okay, but he hasn't been great.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, Ogbo's been better. The numbers prove it. I think the only, in the last couple of weeks, it feels like, besides Miles, who didn't really have a big impact this past week, it feels like the only guys that have had a presence in the backfield the last couple of weeks are Ogbo and J.O.K. Yes. J.O.K.'s been back there a lot. Those have been the guys.


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[Assistant] Oh no, I was looking at him. Y'all, y'all see. Like, Hook and Nakua seems like he'd be a better matchup for Newsome than Coraline Sutton was, cause he's not a big, huge guy.


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[Assistant] And Martin Emerson. In the right spot, he can be very good. When you ask him to be the man, we saw what happened. How big is Nakua, Mike? He's not big at all, I don't think. I feel like he's a slot type of receiver.


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[Assistant] B, you better draft very, very well, because your resources are limited moving forward. They hit on Nakula, they hit on Williams, that's how you make bold moves. What round did they go?


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[Assistant] Von Miller, that's right. So they, not just in the one trade, the Browns gave up more, but in total, the Rams gave up a ton of high picks. But you know what? If you hit on your picks, if you get a starter, not just a starter, but major contributors in Williams and Nakua in the fifth round,


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[Assistant] Yeah, thanks Travis, and uh, let's start, we were just talking about those two late draft picks, Pooka Nakua and Kyren Williams. It still pains me, I have a keeper fantasy football league, that I had to trade Kyren Williams. As I needed a second, it's a two quarterback league, my Kirk Cousins got hurt, I had no choice, it was, it literally pained me to trade him.


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[Assistant] But I did it anyway, and then of course he had that monster game last week, but he's been phenomenal, Nakua's been phenomenal. Did you see either of these things coming when the season started? Because most fans outside of Rams fans probably never heard of either of these guys before the season.


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[Assistant] Travis, it's always fun to watch the home crowd for the LA teams. And I'm curious.


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[Assistant] I'm curious, we know that the Browns have backers in every major city. They're a well-followed team. What do you think the crowd's gonna be like Sunday? What will the split be like?


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[Assistant] Matthew Stafford, obviously we know what he did for L.A. He goes and wins a championship and once that happens it's worth it. But where is he now? I ref, I called him mediocre at this point in his career. Is that fair? Is he a little better than that? What, what do you say?


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[Assistant] You know, typically the way the draft is set up and everything else, teams are supposed to be good and then they're supposed to be bad and it's supposed to, you know, wash, rinse, repeat, but they spent an inordinately small amount of time at the bottom of that talent cycle. I want to touch on something that you, that you said earlier, cause it's kind of been a running theme for our show really this season.


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[Assistant] You said, if you look at the numbers, Stafford isn't great, but the eye test tells you he is. We said the same thing last week when the Browns lost to Russ.


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[Assistant] Didn't, he threw for 135 yards. They were critical yards. Do you feel that there's a transition underway in the league?


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[Assistant] From what just three or four years ago was a throw it all over the stadium league and those passing offenses were clearly the upper echelon. It feels to us like the defense has circled the wagons and it's becoming more of a defensive league. Do you concur?


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[Assistant] Well, maybe not the best, but in the conversation. Ty, I'll tell you what though. No, he's in there too. He's the one guy he left off. Lawrence Taylor, obviously to me, if, if the way you make that argument is


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[Assistant] The two splash plays that he made on third and fourth down in the Super Bowl won the Rams the Super Bowl. I think the Bengals were going to win that game. You felt like here they come, here they come. They needed a play on third down and they needed a play on fourth down and he put his cape on.


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[Assistant] Do that to win a Super Bowl. Well, he's the only one of that list that's played in this massive offensive era too. Yea, you're right. Which is a disadvantage to him.


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[Assistant] I don't, I know this will be controversial. I would not put Dion on the list of the greatest players ever.


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[Assistant] He changed the game forever. Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor did. Yes. The way he played the position.


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[Assistant] I would, Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald, Reggie White, those guys are impactful run and pass. Yeaah. And Deon wasn't. Deon, there's no debate, Deon's the greatest corner of all time. I also think the one thing Deon adds to it was as his return skills. That's another one. And, and, and so. Well, we were just talking defense in this game. No, no, I know you were.


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[Assistant] Both of those were home run because they had a limited Joe Burrow in week one and no Joe Burrow in week 18.


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[Assistant] What is that? I thought, I thought you said that we were pushing this back to tomorrow. Did I misunderstand you? No, true or false. Oh, true or false. I'm sorry, I miss her. Why would you do that?


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[Assistant] You know what? On that point, on that point, let's wrap up the Deon conversation. I hate to interrupt the schedule game. But this is, it raised my eyebrows. Steve, our coordinating producer, sent this to us on text message. Deon Sanders versus Jerry Rice.


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[Assistant] They played ten times against one another. They were teammates for a stretch team.


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[Assistant] Ah, say, say, six hundred? Six hundred, five fifty.


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[Assistant] Every time he lined up against the greatest corner ever to do it. What that is to me, that is more an endorsement of Jerry Rice as the greatest of all time, and that really should end that argument.


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[Assistant] Cuz I've never seen that stat. To me, it shows that when you put the best corner of all time against the best wide receiver of all time, the best wide receiver didn't just win.


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[Assistant] He dominated him. Another stat that's interesting.


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[Assistant] Dion had four of his 53 career interceptions versus Rice.


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[Assistant] But it tells me Montana and Young were not afraid to attack Deon because they knew that Jerry was going to win those. And when he played Jerry, Corners had a much bigger advantage than they have now. Oh, they did it. I'm zero trying to denigrate Deon Sanders. He's the greatest corner of all time.


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[Assistant] When I said top 20, I went, I was crazy. I went too far. He's certainly one of the greatest players ever. I'm just not putting him in the same. To me, the guys that were, were, were a whole, all time great


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[Assistant] Against run and pass would just be ahead of him. Yeaah. That's all I'm saying. And that's fair. That's fair. And I think 6 to 10. I think I do have him at number 5. Yeaah. After hearing everybody's list.


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[Assistant] Is it worth a poll or too many of our viewers not see Jerry Rice?


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[Assistant] Really? Jerry Rice played the majority of his career with the two great quarterbacks, two of the greatest quarterbacks. That's, without question, you're right. And yeaah, I'm just saying he's third. Well he played with Montana, Young, and Tom Brady. So he played with three of the greatest quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] This is it! This is what the new greatest wide receiver ever looks like.


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[Assistant] I don't know. You just got out of the bucket. Jarvis Landry wasn't Odell Beckham. Jarvis Landry's production was really good. Was right on the line. In Miami, yes he was. He never even had 1200 yards. What's this?


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[Assistant] So my guess there is she's talked to a doctor. Probably not a doctor that has seen his scans. But, you know, I mean, we know what a pop is. A pop is never good. And I think she's probably right on point with that. My guess is that somebody from Miles Camp


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[Assistant] You can understand why Miles wants to play. Two reasons. This team is close to a playoff spot. But also, he has publicly stated his desire to win Defensive Player of the Year. He's never been closer to that award in my estimation.


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[Assistant] I, I, I do think that his desire to win that award and the fact that he's never been closer is also driving him. Here's my fear.


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[Assistant] I really want to know what's the chance that he does more damage to the shoulder and it could become a career issue down the road.


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[Assistant] I think he is. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a carryover between LeBronstein and Miles. The most important part of the story is that we have to expect him not to play it 100% the rest of the year. I think that's it. That's the bottom line. And how good is he going to be?


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[Assistant] It seemed like the game against Denver was his least effective game this year, I think.


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[Assistant] And so, are we gonna get, like, Miles Garrett we saw against Denver is the guy we're gonna see the rest of the way, well...


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[Assistant] Monday we watched the news conference in the, in the sports office upstairs.


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[Assistant] He's gonna be out there for less snaps. I would think for sure. You're gonna pick your spots more with him to try to keep him healthier. And that's what they did late in the game against Denver. You saw he's on the sideline a lot more than he typically is. Maybe he's just gonna be out there on third downs or second and longs. I don't know.


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[Assistant] It sucks. No it does. It's been a series of injuries there. Say it again? Anything else noteworthy in Mary Kay's article?