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[Assistant] Why are you drinking? Demanded the little prince. So that I may forget? Replied the tippler.


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[Assistant] Forget what? Inquired the little prince, who already was sorry for him. Forget that I am ashamed. The tippler confessed, hanging his head. Ashamed of what? Insisted the little prince, who wanted to help him. Ashamed of drinking.


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[Assistant] The tippler brought his speech to an end and shut himself up in an impregnable silence. And the little prince went away, puzzled.


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[Assistant] The grownups are certainly very, very odd," said himself as he continued on his journey.


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[Assistant] And nothing can be done about this escaped slave who murdered my father.


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[Assistant] I will go to the horse fair at Naharina, but not to enjoy myself.


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[Assistant] It is you who underestimate me. I will go alone, not as queen, but as a village traveler. Thus, I may go amongst those men of the desert, unknown to them.


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[Assistant] There are races for rich prices at the horse fair. If you will take me, I could ride my stallion and win much gold for you.


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[Assistant] There are many such who could be purchased at no risk.


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[Assistant] I can give no thought to such dreams as are made of moonlight, while slaves dine chains.


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[Assistant] I could be useful. More useful than you realize. Once I lived in the palace at Chemis. I was a dancing girl. I could return there.


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[Assistant] Would you send another to enjoy the moments we might spend together?


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[Assistant] There is no proof that it was he. Only a banner flying over the Royal Chariot. A piece of colour cloth.


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[Assistant] If I were a slave girl, or the daughter of a merchant, I could go to him. But I am a queen, and he is a rebel. And because I am a queen, I must condemn the one man in my life.


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[Assistant] Of course. He planned to move his arm into the city of Chemis from the beginning. Only he knew of my mission into the desert. Only he could have sent the slavers to capture me.


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[Assistant] There is the mountain pass. It is far away and difficult to find.


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[Assistant] Yes, perhaps it is the will of the gods that I destroy the murderer of my father.


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[Assistant] At the top is a plateau. On it, the stronghold of the slaves.


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[Assistant] No, his only defense is the hidden location of the village. I will lead you.


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[Assistant] Look honey, you mustn't believe everything you read about people in public life.


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[Assistant] There's a petition out. Does Bill know that he's being run for state senator?


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[Assistant] Oh, and the secretary, it goes without saying, writes the letters and composes such happy phrases as political fathead and stiver student.


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[Assistant] Well, we like to oblige all of our tenants, but if we raise your rent, then the other tenants will holler for the same thing. All we ask to pay is an extra ten dollars.


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[Assistant] Well, I don't know. This room hasn't been painted in over four years. The carpets are pretty well worn. That radio is older than I am.


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[Assistant] What I can say about my son-in-law, Bill, is that, uh, well, he's a fine son-in-law.


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[Assistant] Now we haven't been hearing anything from you, young Miriam. How do you feel about the candidates?


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[Assistant] Mmm, session in court. Well, have a nice trip and drop us a line occasionally.


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[Assistant] Albert, you are charged with driving with bad brakes and resisting an officer. I take it you plead not guilty?


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[Assistant] Perhaps you didn't understand the court's instructions. I said all witnesses will appear.


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[Assistant] Oh, the court is very sorry to win convenience to witness. But our presence here on Wednesday is essential and is so ordered.


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[Assistant] In a courtroom, a witness does not address the presiding jurist as dead.


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[Assistant] As you know, Republicans in Congress have been hard at work looking to repeal and replace Obamacare right now. People have very strong opinions about the President's healthcare plan. And back in, uh, I think in 2013, we conducted an experiment here on the show. We went on the street and we asked people which was better, Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act.


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[Assistant] With all the attention being paid to the subject lately, we decided to ask this question again to see if Americans have learned anything over the last three years and, well, let's see if we have.


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[Assistant] Drummle, careful not to move the shoulder next to me, took a cigar from his pocket and bit the end off, but showed no sign of stirring.


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[Assistant] Choking and boiling as I was, I felt that we could not go a word further without introducing Estella's name.


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[Assistant] How long we might have remained in this ridiculous position, it is impossible to say.


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[Assistant] Who came into the coffee room unbuttoning their great coats and rubbing their hands and before whom, as they charged at the fire, we were obliged to give way.


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[Assistant] I saw him through the windows, seizing his horse's mane, and mounting in his blundering, brutal manner, and sidling and backing away.


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[Assistant] A man in a dust-collared dress appeared with what was wanted. I could not have said from where, whether from the inn yard or the street or where not.


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[Assistant] And as Drummond leaned down from the saddle and lighted his cigar and laughed with a jerk of his head towards the coffee-room windows,


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[Assistant] The slouching shoulders and ragged hair of this man whose back was towards me reminded me of Orly.


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[Assistant] Too heavily out of sorts to care much at the time whether it were he or no, or, after all, to touch the breakfast.


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[Assistant] That it would have been so much the better for me never to have entered, never to have seen.


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[Assistant] I desire to have you and many devotees since I started the monks podcast said that you are one of the best persons for this. So I'm grateful that we could make it happen now. Every tradition has its pride in its, you could say wonder kids. So you are like that for our tradition.


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[Assistant] From the time I was introduced to Krishna Consciousness, I used to read your BTG articles and then from a distance I followed how


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[Assistant] You have gone from a devotional upbringing to become a well established devotional scholar. So I think it's a trajectory that's an inspiration for many devotees.


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[Assistant] And also many second, many you could say third generation devotees, second generation devotees. So thank you for being who you are and thank you for being here today.


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[Assistant] Thank you. So usually when I do the podcast,


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[Assistant] I tried to focus on that devotees say area of specialization or area of experience. So I thought we could discuss.


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[Assistant] Where reason is valued almost at the expense of faith.


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[Assistant] It's a tension which every devotee faces, but I think you may have faced it in probably to a degree greater than most devotees. So I thought we could discuss about that topic today.


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[Assistant] So can we start with, maybe can you tell me a little bit about your upbringing? You know, I think you are the first in the second generation of homeschool devotees and I have attended yours and your mother's seminar on homeschooling. So maybe you could tell a little bit about that and then


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[Assistant] How you went into academia, what inspired you to do that, especially to religious studies.


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[Assistant] That's fascinating. You know, one of the criticisms of say homeschooling that is done is that often religious communities prefer that.


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[Assistant] Because they would like to indoctrinate their children in their own ideology.


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[Assistant] To indoctrinate a child in a religion before they have the intelligence to choose it but your education seems to have been very different.


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[Assistant] In fact, it was not so much, it was more like, as you said, raising questions and discussing.


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[Assistant] Interesting. So I can say that you were, by your education you were protected, but you were not isolated.


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[Assistant] So did you grow up with a sense of V-day mentality?


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[Assistant] But that difference needn't create either an insecurity in us that I am doing something wrong nor does it have to create a judgmentality about others that you know they are wrong or they are down there. It is just that we are different and we have opportunity to connect them if they are interested. It's a challenge actually. I would modify that.


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[Assistant] Set the word equal, because that is, that is almost, uh, like, uh, depersonalizing all paths.


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[Assistant] And it's almost in the name of equality, we strip all parts of potency. We can't say that simplistically everything is equal. What I meant to say is what you again articulated that


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[Assistant] You know, sometimes if someone else is correct, that makes me feel insecure. Am I wrong? To prove that I am correct, somebody else has to be wrong. So there can be different paths to Krishna. That's true.


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[Assistant] So moving on, how did you choose to enter into religious studies? In general, Indians go into STEM fields.


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[Assistant] And uhm, I remember one devotee, he told me that he wanted to enter into religious studies and his mother


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[Assistant] She reacted as if he was going to become brahmachari. She said if you don't go study engineering, I am going to commit suicide. So eventually he studied engineering only. But, so was there a...


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[Assistant] Because you grew in America, maybe that career pressure to become an engineer or doctor might not have been there. But still religious studies, how did you choose religious studies specifically?


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[Assistant] So he was not joking or he was joking in some way but not entirely.


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[Assistant] So thank you for sharing this journey. So during your studies, did you, do you remember any specific moments when say your studies challenged your faith in a very strong way and uh, so


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[Assistant] So have you, at one level the tension between faith and reason is a ongoing experience.


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[Assistant] For us as devotees and especially as intellectually oriented devotees. So I had earlier podcast with Krishna Kshetra Maharaj where he mentioned that, you know, faith and doubt


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[Assistant] But there are some moments of special tension and then how does one go about resolving that?


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[Assistant] Do you, did you have any such experiences specifically?


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[Assistant] That's a very striking way of putting it. I have also read about this how the fundamental conceptions of time in say the Abrahamic religions and the Dharmic religions are different and they lead to, we could say something like some sort of history, history centrism in the Abrahamic religions. But let me understand this, what you said.


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[Assistant] That the question of time is a question of time itself needs to be questioned.


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[Assistant] We could say that literal historic precise historicity


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[Assistant] Is like one extreme unless this is right and then the everything is wrong.


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[Assistant] The other extreme we could say is like complete mythology saying that, you know, this never happened, but what is taught through it is important. So in between we could say this happened.


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[Assistant] But when exactly it happened and what is the evidence for the fact that it happened at that time, that is not as important as what is taught through it.


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[Assistant] The geographical accuracy of something like Vrindavan also. But some things are central and we won't


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[Assistant] So there, if we have to quote controversy, we may, we may still defend that this is Vrindavan where Krishna's pastimes happened.


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[Assistant] But those which are not so clearly emphasized, say in our scriptures or in our tradition,


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[Assistant] So then to get involved in that controversy might not, uh, is something which is distracting. Am I understanding this right?


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[Assistant] The trans-historical, the way you say it is, that history is just a, we could say a exit point or a take-off point for us to go into a higher reality.


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[Assistant] The, because the reality is much more than the physical.


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[Assistant] So fighting over the physical is not, as they say, this is not the hill I want to die on. So in that sense, don't get into, don't get into a fight that is not important.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is a good example, but I think I'll need a little more unpacking.


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[Assistant] That setting the terms of the debate. So are we the two, three different things over there? One is when we, when we are going to have a debate.


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[Assistant] Now what are the common authorities that we accept?


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[Assistant] It's like if I am arguing based on scripture and you don't accept scripture.


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[Assistant] Or if I'm arguing best on science and you don't really give credence to science.


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[Assistant] But I think what you are saying with respect to set the terms of the debate is that


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[Assistant] And while doing that study many other questions can also come up. But we need to focus on our driving questions. And for that.


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[Assistant] So, one aspect of intelligence I see it is that to understand what is central and to hold on to it and to understand what is peripheral and to let go of it.


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[Assistant] Because the syllabus is decided by when you, more or less, the books that we read are decided.


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[Assistant] Just to apply this to our previous discussion. So if somebody asks, you know,


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[Assistant] So by faith you are using it in a broad sense like we could talk our faith tradition. You are using faith in a broader sense and belief in a smaller sense of


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[Assistant] What we believe, whereas faith is like the whole culture, culture, scripture, practice, everything combined together. Is that right? When you differentiate faith and belief?


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[Assistant] When that begs the question, so you know, is your faith not based on facts?


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[Assistant] Or is it that it is not based on these particular facts?


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[Assistant] Is based on my faith in the reality that they have perceived this.


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[Assistant] You know, one of the talks on the seminars I do is on centering our faith on Krishna, centering ourselves on Krishna. So I talk about Krishna is the center.


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[Assistant] Now you can have a intellectual pathway to Krishna, you can have a cultural pathway to Krishna, you can have a social pathway to Krishna, and you can have an emotional or experiential pathway to Krishna.


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[Assistant] So now some people for them, now everybody has all the components, but for some people something would be very prominent.


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[Assistant] So for somebody whose primary pathway to Krishna is intellectual, then if there is some question for which you just, the answer doesn't make sense or you don't have answer, that disturbs them a lot.


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[Assistant] On the other hand, somebody for whom, say, the social pathway is important. That means, say, how nice devotees are or how saintly my, my spiritual teachers are.


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[Assistant] And then they find somebody's behavior questionable and it's like everything come shattering down for them. So, so in that sense, I like this idea of faith as a, as a composite and all these are there and maybe for each individual, the percentage of each might be different.


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[Assistant] And we all need to, we will have one primary aspect, but we also need to develop the other aspects so that we can turn to it when necessary.


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[Assistant] So if we tell them to get into elaborate deity worship, because that is the cultural side also.


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[Assistant] Then that also takes time. So when you say that we need to strengthen the other side, what, what exactly do you mean by that?


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[Assistant] True. So, you know, I think this is very fruitful discussion till now. So you said that actually the basis of the historical facts is one thing. We were discussing about setting the frames of the debate and then


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[Assistant] From your perspective, did we complete the discussion or you want to add something more on this?


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[Assistant] Beautifully put. Yeah, actually, I appreciate this point that, uh,


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[Assistant] As devotees, the parallel between Sarvam Bhattacharya is hearing from him and hearing in the academia. It's a very good example. And uh, you know, we, just as we wouldn't want an outsider to tell us what Bhagavad Gita means.


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[Assistant] In the academy also they don't want outsiders to tell what it means. So that makes sense.


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[Assistant] The dating of the scripture is not as important as the very fact that whether it is a revelation, whether it is


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[Assistant] That's true. One of the, one of the metaphors I like to use for this is it's a war. In one sense, it's an intellectual war. And in a war, the sincerity alone is not enough. You need competence, you need colleagues. So I might be on the side of virtue.


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[Assistant] But if I have a gun that is not firing and the other person has a machine gun, I'll be


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[Assistant] If uh, and if I don't have colleagues who are watching my back, I might be attacked from elsewhere also. So in a sense, for somebody to enter into the academic fields,


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[Assistant] They also need to have a certain level of intellectual ability because logic, analysis, reasoning faculty, these are also skills. And sometimes skeptics or atheists, they might be better at that than us. Their, their conclusions, uh, maybe off.


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[Assistant] But their expertise in arguing might be better than us and we can get bewildered. So both, I mean, yes, we need the association, but just like in any service.


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[Assistant] We have a place where we can raise our questions and not be judged as faithless for raising those questions.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when I talk about the, I agree with you this point that ultimately we are all on a shared journey.


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[Assistant] The specifics of that, where we are coming from and specifics of where we are going may vary.


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[Assistant] But there is a sense of shared journey. When I talked about it's a battle and competence and weapons, my point was more about the fact that there are certain skills which are required for this service.


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[Assistant] And in that sense, if somebody is going in a war field and they don't even know how to use a sword, sword, then they are not going to be very successful there.


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[Assistant] It's every serious discussion, whether it is between two people or whether it is we, when we are reading a book, that discussion involves, you could say almost like a reincarnation of ideas, reincarnation of conceptions. Okay, this was my understanding.


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[Assistant] Just like the soul leaves one body and gets a more evolved form. So our one conception in a sense dies and it comes in a more evolved way.


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[Assistant] So, it's more metaphorical, it's not literal that there is a war.


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[Assistant] But it is, it's a continuous, so we have to have that ability to.


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[Assistant] To deal with the ideas. Deal with the fact that our ideas will be challenged. And when the ideas are challenged that can feel like a battle. But through that challenge the ideas become more crystallized and then they come forward in more evolved forms.


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[Assistant] I find my primary inspiration or contribution in the writing.


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[Assistant] I write more for a general audience than an academic audience but I was reading one book by a writer and he says that sometimes when writing you feel that nothing is coming through and I feel that I can't write. So he says if you start feeling like that then stop writing. Go on with your life.


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[Assistant] And if after a week, a couple of weeks, after a month, you feel, I can't live without writing.


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[Assistant] And then you won't be so obsessed with how quickly the result is coming, how good the result is coming. So in one sense, when you talk about our nature, it is, there are many things to it, but one thing, one aspect is that doing it


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[Assistant] is more important than enjoying the rewards of doing it. So, so for some people being intellectual is what they are going to be.


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[Assistant] If you don't invest to get the necessary training and the skills to do it well, then you'll do it in the association. Okay. Agreed fully. So do we have the time to go into the revelation aspect? Yes. Maybe we, in 15 minutes we could discuss and we'll see how it goes. Is that okay?


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[Assistant] You know, I have heard different articulations of this and I also thought about it. One articulation is that


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[Assistant] When we look at tradition, when uh, insider or a practitioner,


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[Assistant] So whereas the, so the academic scholars approach is to know about. So it's, it's like a doctor, say a child is sick and child goes to a, child is taken to a doctor.


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[Assistant] Now the doctor knows more about


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[Assistant] How much is the blood count, RBC or platelet count or whatever. But it is the mother who knows the child better.


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[Assistant] But at the same time we want to analyze and study and, uh, uh, you could even scrutinize that object.


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[Assistant] Those are two metaphors which I had and there are several more I could give but I like this articulation that


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[Assistant] Comprehensive, consistent and timeless as compared to the human approach. Another metaphor that I heard about is that how, basically earlier when we were talking about faith, I was thinking of the point of panentheism. How God is nature and God is more than that. So similarly in my understanding, if we look at religion, yes, religion has a historical dimension to it.


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[Assistant] It has a social dimension to it. It has a cultural dimension to it. You could say it has a psychological dimension to it also.


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[Assistant] As a, as you could say, as a conflict of focus or as a divergent focuses.


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[Assistant] So in a sense you could say that, if I just understand this right, that it's more, if we reject the transcendent, then that is also like faith in faithlessness. So it's more of a position of say functional agnosticism. It might be there, it might not be there, but that's not


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[Assistant] That's not what our focus is. That's not what our scope of study is. It's something like that.


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[Assistant] I think that Salman Rushdie's satanic verses is a classic example of that where Mohammed adjusted certain revelations.


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[Assistant] Prabhupada went to America and he was spectacularly successful. So we can say this is


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[Assistant] This is Krishna's arrangement. It is Prabhupada's purity, Krishna's empowerment by which he was successful. So that is the transcendental aspect. Now we could also look at the socio-cultural aspects of America and there was a counterculture at that time.


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[Assistant] About established religion and established systems of knowledge and everything, but they were also receptive to Eastern spirituality. So, one example that I used to reconcile this is that, that Prabhupa, that


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[Assistant] Krishna set the stage for Prabhupada through all these situations.


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[Assistant] And, but even if there is a beautiful stage, it is, the dancer has to dance. Expertly.


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[Assistant] So if we consider it only as transcendental empowerment, then that is functioning in this world.


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[Assistant] So we could say that there was so much time Prabhupada was trying in India. India, there are not so many results. So we could say okay that is Krishna's plan.


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[Assistant] But I find that once we start, I like that point especially as we can hold on to an absolute truth without needing to hold on to absolutism.


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[Assistant] Yes, there is a spiritual explanation for things.


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[Assistant] But that doesn't mean we cannot look for sociological or cultural or other factors, other factors that also matter. So, you know, India was not receptive at that time.


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[Assistant] So it was not that Prabhupada was empowered when he went to America and he was not empowered when he was in India. But even for empowerment to work, circumstances are important.


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[Assistant] So looking at the sociological factors does not decrease the glory of Srila Prabhupada.


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[Assistant] At the same time, if we say that sociological factors alone were success, made the success, then that is also a problem.


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[Assistant] The transcendental and if I may use the word circumstantial, the transcendental circumstantial both can work together. Now the conflict may come.


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[Assistant] Beautiful. So rather than one, both of them as you said, overlapping and both work in parallel and we could say both are the working of Krishna only. One is Krishna working, working as you said,


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[Assistant] Breaking through the principle of history and the laws of nature and doing something miraculous.


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[Assistant] Another is Krishna working through the working of historical circumstances both ways, yes.


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[Assistant] Now there is something in between which is devotional scholarship within the tradition itself.


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[Assistant] So the traditional scholarship, also at least in India, we had a rich tradition of intellectual debate.


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[Assistant] So I presume there was a certain amount of criticality.


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[Assistant] And a certain amount of intellectual rigor there also.


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[Assistant] Is it that that is, that was lost over time or is it that because that was more insular, so that has lost relevance now?


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[Assistant] Right now within Hinduism or Vaishnavism, we don't have many forums for we could say insider scholarship in a way that can engage with the contemporary world. We can have insider scholarship which say translates uhm,


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[Assistant] Trans, which translates the sacred texts into English and other things. But actually to engage with the contemporary world, we need to study


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[Assistant] The whole idea of religious studies is not developed in India much and uh, we could go into that.


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[Assistant] But this is, I don't think this is just a issue with say ISKCON itself. It's broadly with Hindu scholarship. I don't see a lot of


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[Assistant] There are so many conservative blogs, liberal blogs.


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[Assistant] And there are so many people who write and of course people write scholarly books also, dealing seriously with contemporary issues. So, what do you feel about this?


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[Assistant] I think one reason for that is, you have to put it very well that it is lacking. One reason is also, at least for Scon, often our purpose of engagement is conversion. It's not discussion.


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[Assistant] That we want to enter into a discussion and show how we also have a valuable take on the discussion.


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[Assistant] But often the purpose is, you know, we have the ultimate answer and our purpose is to convert and where


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[Assistant] You could say there is a missionary organization which focuses on proselytization. These are all words with negative connotations, but that's the purpose. But then there has to be a separate wing of it. The purpose is not so much, you know, for many, even for, uh, in a proselytizing organization for many people, philosophy is simply a tool for conversion. It is not a, it is not, as you said, faith seeking understanding.


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[Assistant] Is creating space for that kind of scholarship. Just yesterday I had a discussion with Gaurang Prabhu and he was talking about the BRC and the Oxford Centre is there. So slowly I think we are creating pockets like that. And in some ways it might be natural you know from the first generation


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[Assistant] We didn't have the time or the bandwidth to focus on these things. As our movement becomes stabilized, then these things, this kind of broader engagement with society, it will take some time for it to happen, isn't it?


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[Assistant] Beautiful. So when we define mission in the, in the narrow term of, as you said, converting people, then, then we are actually


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[Assistant] Like we say, scholars might have a reductionistic attitude toward religion. We can have a reductionistic attitude toward the whole process of elevating people's consciousness. Yeah. And that is when I think when we try to go into conversion, then the we-they hostility becomes more. And then it is this idea of dialogue with the world is itself sometimes, uh, at least for me, it took many years to appreciate that this is what we are also meant to do.


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[Assistant] It is more like we are meant to talk, not even talk with the world, it is talk to the world.


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[Assistant] So that is often the idea of preaching and then scholarship itself is quite antithetical to that because scholarship involves the give and take of ideas. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You know this, maybe one or two last points, because I don't want to take too much of your time.


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[Assistant] Faith that develops through what we discussed earlier, the various things.


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[Assistant] And those other components, one's engaging, one's personal experience, one's study of scripture, one's association and all those things. So it is through those things itself, so revelation itself cannot be rationally proven and I think that is where


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[Assistant] If you want to say, talk about the faith and reason, I often in my classes I give a metaphor that often in Christianity they talk about the leap of faith. So I say that if this is one mountain, that is another mountain. It's not that this is the mountain of reason, this is the mountain of faith. Rather,


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[Assistant] To explain faith, to understand faith, but faith itself is more than reason.


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[Assistant] We cannot, so for example, by reason I can talk about maybe how there is a God, there is a divine being.


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[Assistant] But purely by reason, I cannot say that the divine being is a blueish black coward boy who plays a peacock, who plays a flute and wears a peacock feather.


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[Assistant] And explain why the Bhagavatam is, is a credible source of revelation.


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[Assistant] And within the Bhagavatam's revelation, there is, there is the description of Krishna that is given.


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[Assistant] So in that sense, so it's not irrational or non-rational, it's rational and then trans-rational.


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[Assistant] Yeah, see I agree with you fully this metaphor. See any metaphor ultimately is inadequate.


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[Assistant] I remember I read an article of Ravindra Swarup Prabhu where he talks about how, you know, he had read many arguments about the non-existence of God and then somebody sent him that an article about, I mean, a new theory about God's non-existence. And he said that eventually when I read these arguments, I found that my faith resisted all those arguments.


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[Assistant] But my point is that there is a certain level of experience


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[Assistant] Just like at uh, we say that Madhya Nidapur says that


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[Assistant] You know, I no longer want to do my Sandhya Vandan because I am simply absorbing Krishna. So Uddhav Gita also says that the Gyani has to give up Gyan.


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[Assistant] To become fully absorbed in bhakti, to offer himself to Krishna.


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[Assistant] Maybe the world is rational. There is a rational order in the world. Let me figure it out.


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[Assistant] So in one sense empirical observation is the basis of my rationality or I understand that there is a divine source to the world.


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[Assistant] And the divine source has permeated the world with rationality.


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[Assistant] So in that sense, the foundation of my rationality is itself is Krishna and the goal is also Krishna.


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[Assistant] Excellent. Beginning from the unprovable, going to the unprovable. Yeaah. I think Goddard's incompleteness theorem is also something similar that


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[Assistant] Every system of knowledge requires some propositions.


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[Assistant] That cannot be proven by that system of knowledge that exists outside the system. I'm paraphrasing it. Yeah, that's true.


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[Assistant] So now this, Anna, I am intrigued by your, your, in that sense of feeling is rasa. That's interesting because even Einstein has famously said that the intuitive mind is superior to the rational mind.


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[Assistant] And this is how it is. You can call it intuition. You can call it inspiration. But it's not this reason. So in a sense you get the sense that this is right.


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[Assistant] We accept that reason works because Krishna has permeated the world with reason. And then we use reason to go toward Krishna.


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[Assistant] It's, uh, it's, you earlier said this point that rationality is one mode of thinking. It's, we don't have to give it up, but we don't have to make it the sole mode of thinking also. So some, for some devotees, when Krishna says man-mana-bhava, for some devotees that remembrance of Krishna could be through reason. And for some devotees, it could be through spontaneous attraction and more of a personal connect, personal remembrance.


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[Assistant] But it could be a tool for not just understanding the philosophy of Krishna, the consciousness, the Krishna Tattva, but it could also be a tool for focusing the mind on Krishna also.


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[Assistant] We can start seeing it as the superior way of connecting with Krishna.


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[Assistant] And then that can lead to judgmentality and that can lead to problems.


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[Assistant] This is a very devotional point to conclude our discussion.


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[Assistant] Maybe I'll try to, usually at the end of our discussions I try to summarize, but we went over a lot of topics.


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[Assistant] So we discussed today, you could say broadly on the topic of faith and reason in devotion, in bhakti. And we started with your experience of you had education, homeschooling, but that was protection, not isolation.


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[Assistant] And so you develop critical thinking at that time itself and it was not a


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[Assistant] It was not a big culture shock or a intellectual shock when you entered into academia.


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[Assistant] The Vide mentality comes primarily when we don't interact with people except to say speak down to them.


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[Assistant] Within the faith and reason dialogue in the academic world, I think two main things we discussed was the historicity and the principle of revelation. So historicity, it is very beautiful that before answering a question, we need to question the question that why is this question important?


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[Assistant] And in the Abrahamic traditions, because they have linear conception of history, so history is going somewhere.


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[Assistant] And that's why where what happened, when what happened and how becomes important.


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[Assistant] So the, the, how the historical events promote the soul's evolution is more important than the specific history or geography of those events itself. So it's not, so we discussed Prabhupada's quote about


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[Assistant] So it's not, we are not historical or non-historical, but history is simply like a departure point for us to go to the trans-historical and that, so for us,


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[Assistant] So do we want to do that exam also? So we have to


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[Assistant] What is central for us is not the specific history. So we discussed two like a pyramid. One is to say history itself, literal history is itself.


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[Assistant] Whatever, and the other is that, oh, it doesn't matter at all, it's, what we start is more important, it is all mythology.


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[Assistant] So we understand its history, but the more than history is what is critical for us. What is the transhistorical that is taught? That's what we focus on.


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[Assistant] And even in the historical, like say, we say Krishna appeared here in Vrindavan. It's not the literal geography of Radhakund, but Radhakund as it is seen in Divya Prateksha.


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[Assistant] So that was the historical question. If we want to change the frame of the discussion, we discussed about we have to go inside and, uh,


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[Assistant] There is a lot of area for going into the, into the academic world and then like Saro


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[Assistant] Like, yes, I spoke for seven days to Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and then Chaitanya Mahaprabhu got to speak. So some devotees who have the requisite supportive association to sustain that hearing of things which are of a non-devotional perspective to things.


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[Assistant] And then they also have the intellectual skills, the nature.


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[Assistant] The mainstream dialogue itself will, the mode of the dialogue itself can be changed significantly.


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[Assistant] And we can see that other religions have done that significantly.


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[Assistant] We Hindus have not done, Hinduism, Vaishnavism or even our movement has not done that so much. And then we discussed about the revolution question that, so the religious, the traditions approach is that


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[Assistant] Religion is something which is consistent, comprehensive and timeless.


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[Assistant] The academic, academic scholars approach is that it is something historical, philosophical, social, cultural or psychological, these factors.


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[Assistant] So when this conflict comes up, so the same like the Upanishads, they are, are they revelations or are they discussions because of a political conflict between different regions that happen at a particular place. So both of them can go together.


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[Assistant] Because we see that Krishna can act by breaking through history, descending into history or Krishna can act through the movements of history itself.


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[Assistant] It doesn't have to necessarily challenge one's faith. We discuss various examples for that purpose.


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[Assistant] Faith and reason, we had a long discussion towards the conclusion that, that for reason is always a part of the, okay, if you want to talk about faith, faith is, in our tradition, faith is not simply based on beliefs.


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[Assistant] Okay, this is what I believe. Apart from beliefs, this is what I practice.


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[Assistant] This is what I have experienced. This is how I have seen my saintly teachers to be. And this is what I have.


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[Assistant] Say, learn by studying scripture. So there are so many aspects to faith. And when one area becomes


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[Assistant] They may become the source of our survival at some time. And, and overall, then we talked about, you know, how faith can rely on reason.


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[Assistant] But even when it transients reason, it doesn't reject reason, it just doesn't rely on reason. Because even in our tradition, say you talk about Ramanacharya using reason,


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[Assistant] To show how reason cannot prove the existence of God in the Srivashya or also our tradition has critical scholarship.


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[Assistant] the challenge if the rational rationality is just one way of thinking and it is it is valuable for both


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[Assistant] For us to understand Krishna better and for us to explain Krishna better to others.


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[Assistant] We are here for seva and my scholarship is one way of serving. Then we all can contribute in the Lord's mission in the way that He has gifted us. Yes, any points you want to add and conclude?


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[Assistant] You know, for me also, and I'm sure for many of our viewers, it will be a very, uh, it is a kind of discussion which is necessary, but it doesn't happen. No, there are certain stereotypes about what academic scholarship means.


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[Assistant] And whether it should be done or not done and what are the challenges and, uh,


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[Assistant] I feel that although I also discussed with different devotee scholars at different times about scholarship and different devotees come to me when they want to ask whether I should go into academy or not.


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[Assistant] Systematic discussion. I don't think the resource like that is available.


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[Assistant] So I feel that this would be a very valuable resource for


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[Assistant] Uh, for many devotees in future also, and I thank you for your time. It was immensely relishable to have this penetrating discussion. Thank you very much. Hare Krishna.


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[Assistant] As each day passed, I would learn, in our talk, something about the little prince's planet, his departure from it, his journey. The information would come very slowly, as it might chance to fall from his thoughts.


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[Assistant] It is true, isn't it? A sheep eats little bushes. Yes, that is true. Oh, I am glad.


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[Assistant] I did not understand why it was so important that sheep should eat little bushes.


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[Assistant] But the little prince added, then he follows that they also eat baobabs. I pointed out to the little prince that baobabs were not little bushes, but, on the contrary, trees' biggest castles, and that even if he took a whole herd of elephants away with him, the herd would not eat up one single baobab.


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[Assistant] Why do you want the sheep to eat the little baobabs? He answered me at once. Oh, calm, calm. As if he were speaking of something that was self-evident.


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[Assistant] Indeed, as I learned, they were on the planet where the little prince lived.


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[Assistant] As on all planets, good plants and bad plants.


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[Assistant] In consequence, there were good seeds from good plants and bad seeds from bad plants. The seeds are invisible. They sleep deep in the heart of the earth's darkness until someone among them is seized with the desire to awaken.


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[Assistant] This little seed will stretch itself and begin, timidly at first, to push a charming little sprig inoffensively upward toward the sun.


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[Assistant] Very first instant that one recognizes it. Now there were some terrible seeds on the planet, that was the home of the little prince. And these were the seeds of the baobab. The soil of that planet was infested with them.


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[Assistant] A baobab is something you will never never be able to get rid of if you attend to it too late. It spreads over the entire planet.


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[Assistant] The board is clear through it with its roots. And if the planet is too small and the baobabs are too many, they split it in pieces.


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[Assistant] It is a question of discipline a little friend said to me later on.


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[Assistant] When you've finished your own toilet in the morning, then it is time to attend to the toilet of your planet. Just so, with the greatest care, you must see to it that you pull up regularly all the baobabs, at the very first moment when they can be distinguished from the rose bushes which they resemble so closely in their earliest youth.


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[Assistant] It is very tedious work, the little prints added, but very easy.


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[Assistant] And one day he said to me, you ought to make a beautiful drawing so that the children where you live can see exactly how all this is.


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[Assistant] That would be very useful to them if they were to travel some day.


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[Assistant] There is no harm in putting off a piece of work until another day.


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[Assistant] But when it is a matter of baobabs, that always means a catastrophe.


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[Assistant] But the danger of the Baobabs is so little understood, and such considerable risks would be wrong by anyone who might get lost on an asteroid. And for once, I am breaking through my reserve.


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[Assistant] Children, I say plainly. Watch out for the baobabs.


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[Assistant] My friends like myself have been scaring this danger for a long time without ever knowing it.


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[Assistant] And so it is for them that I have worked so hard over this drawing.


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[Assistant] The lesson which I passed on by this means is worth all the trouble it has cost me. Perhaps you will ask me, why are there no other drawings in this book as magnificent and impressive as this drawing of the Baobabs? The reply is simple.


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[Assistant] I have tried, but with the others I have not been successful. When I made the drawing of the baobabs, I was carried beyond myself by the inspiring force of urgent necessity.


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[Assistant] Part 6. Oh little prince, bit by bit I came to understand the secrets of your sad little life.


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[Assistant] For a long time, you had found your only entertainment in the quiet player of looking at the sunset.


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[Assistant] I learned that new detail on the morning of the fourth day when you said to me, I am very fond of sunsets. Come, let us go look at a sunset now. But we must wait, I said. Wait, for what?


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[Assistant] For the sunset, we must wait until it is time.


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[Assistant] At first you seemed to be very much surprised and then you laughed to yourself and said to me, I am always thinking that I am at home.


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[Assistant] Just so, everybody knows that when it is no one in the United States, the sign is setting over France.


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[Assistant] If you could fly to France in one minute, you could go straight into the sunset. Right from noon.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, France is too far away for that. But on your tiny planet, my little prince, all you need to do is move your chair a few steps. You can see the day end and the twilight falling whenever you like.


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[Assistant] One day you said to me, I saw the sunset forty-four times.


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[Assistant] Were you so sad then? I asked. On the day of the forty-four sunsets? But the little prince made no reply.


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[Assistant] The Buddy Prince. The Little Prince. Part 6. This is Rich.


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[Assistant] You are a moore. You have used magic to make my daughter love you.


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[Assistant] Stories like yours would have impressed my daughter too.


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[Assistant] If I could have stopped her from marrying you, I would have. But what is done can't be undone. I am very glad I have no other daughter.


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[Assistant] Good Casio, I have been a soldier all my life. I do not know the art of conversation. What will please a beautiful lady? What should I say to her?


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[Assistant] If I can make him think Desdemona loves Casio, who knows what will happen.


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[Assistant] Perhaps the murder of Casio or Othello or both. I don't care.


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[Assistant] Make sure they don't get drunk and fight. We don't want to upset the good people of this island.


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[Assistant] Let me drink to the Lady Desdemona. He cried. She is a most beautiful lady.


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[Assistant] I'll pay you money to start a fight with Casio tonight.


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[Assistant] I don't want to make trouble for him, but he was very drunk.


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[Assistant] I feel terrible, Iago. I was a fool last night.


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[Assistant] There is no hope that Othello will give me the position back. I must tell him I am a drunk. What can I do, Iago?


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[Assistant] Good Casio, do not speak to Othello about this problem. If you want your position back, you must speak to the lovely Desdemona, his wife. She can do anything with Othello. He loves her so. Desdemona likes you, she is honest and good.


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[Assistant] She will agree to persuade Othello to give you the position back.


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[Assistant] Not tonight, Desdemona. It is too soon for that. I am very angry with him.


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[Assistant] Hey, uh, so first of all, shout out to the chat room. Always a bunch of great people in there. My, my wall art is coming back. I just painted the walls. I got a new wall. So wall art's coming back. Don't worry about that. And I'll be changing up every episode of one next year.


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[Assistant] Owen, I am 1000% in love with that man. First of all, no flake.


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[Assistant] That video is not meant for me, so it doesn't insult me, it doesn't make me feel bad. That's a marketing ploy to pander to doofuses that will believe him.


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[Assistant] This administration, I appreciate moves like this, and I'm gonna give you the perfect example why. I have a friend, I'm not gonna say his name, went to high school with him.


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[Assistant] He is a pothead, works hard, got three kids, great guy, but he just likes to play video games and smoke weed and take care of his family.


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[Assistant] He's researching, uh, net neutrality, FCC. He's reading articles and calling me. He knows about the budget, the tax bill. He knows about the education bill. This is a guy who wasn't registered to vote until this year. 35 years old, he's lived his life, never voted for anybody, never read nothing, never cared about nothing. Now,


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[Assistant] This person, like a lot of people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Because now this administration is so.


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[Assistant] The news is about political shows, so I'm trying to make it real simple. This administration


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[Assistant] And so now more people that are regular average Americans want to know what's going on. Because when you see net neutrality on your internet, people that would have never cared before now care because they're like, whoa, wait, what?


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[Assistant] Like I said, I'm not super worried about it. I'm just going to charge my $10 fee when you come to my house, start stacking up these chips just in case they start messing up. Because again, people don't understand when they say, oh, oh, and there's competition. I live in a small town. I just moved across town. This town is the smallest town in New Jersey.


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[Assistant] Anybody can go get anybody's cell phone. That's what competition is. You're like, oh man, everybody's moving to T-Mobile because they're giving away Netflix and free internet for $40. Next thing you know, Verizon, who's been killing people for years, it's like, all right, we'll, we'll give you a crappy unlimited $45 plan. Is that happy? You make you happy? So like I said,


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[Assistant] I'm super excited about these Tom. I'm not that worried about it. I'm not that upset about it. That video is amusing to me, but it doesn't upset me because I have faith in the future. I like the fact that people are route up. I like the fact that people care and when they care, they vote


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[Assistant] And when you talk about Republicans, Republicans do what they get paid to do. What lobbyists tell them to do is what they do.


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[Assistant] Parties and principles have changed. They're not what they used to be. Now we are a country of funding. And when you get funding, that's what you buy by.


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[Assistant] So if you're a person who said, oh, I'm not worried about this and you campaigned on it, then the next time your election comes up, people are going to be like, hey, they're charging me 35 hours a month for Facebook and you back this? No, you're out. Whoever you are, you're out. So again, this is a situation that I fully believe will fix itself.


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[Assistant] Not, not, I mean, they're just messing up in this market. I mean, again, they are trying to cater to that certain finite group. But I mean, for peace sake, when you look at the product itself,


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[Assistant] Like I can go put that stuff in any other machine for like a $1.99 and they want like $8 million. It's just, it's kind of excessive right now what Apple's doing, especially when


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[Assistant] It looked cool, but it wasn't functional for the professionals that needed to use it. The new MacBook Pro is a consumer book pro. They've got emojis and little swipe things and touch screens and stuff. I don't want that. That's not what I need in a professional device. And you want to charge three grand for it and you're making it for


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[Assistant] High school kids, it's, they're just, I don't know what's going on over there right now, Apple. It's really weird.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's usually the RAM that starts coming around with that device. Once you start, like when you get capped out at RAM, you can put 64. It's very comparable. I'm just being facetious because I'm annoyed with the device, so.


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[Assistant] So certain things I don't use as an average user. Anytime I've ever used Shazam, I don't even click through because once you play a song and it recognizes or even a show,


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[Assistant] It'll bring up to iTunes, Apple music, Spotify, wherever. And it's like, Oh, do you want to buy it? And you can click right through the app and it'll take it to you. And since I pay for Apple music and Spotify, I just back right back out and then go put it in my playlist. And I never since Suzanne never even gets a click or anything for me. So I guess they get the view from the app and I'm like, how did he make this much money? Especially now when you can just say,


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[Assistant] A question of, pardon my ignorance, but does Facebook do a rev share with the ads that they put on videos now?


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[Assistant] Oh, dabbling, because that's more of a concern to me when you're out there running these ads and not paying or sharing the money that you're forcing ads upon. I don't know. There's a lot of things that we could worry about people not getting paid and skirting funds and you know, paying people their fair share of things.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it's the American way. That's the way the laws are written. And so, uh, it's not cheating until you get caught. So.


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[Assistant] Before when you used to make jackets.


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[Assistant] Caring about your community and your people is different because


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[Assistant] The megacorps are global brands that literally just outsource all the work. So it's like, well,


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[Assistant] You don't even really work for us. All you do is pass a phone over to somebody and swipe a credit card. You didn't slave away in a factory building this stuff. So it's a different mindset and it's different mentality. And that's why people here don't get as angry about it as they should, because if they did, then that tax situation and other things and jobs would change, blah, blah, blah.


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[Assistant] I'd like to see the analytics on the people watching their creative content.


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[Assistant] Oh man. Uh, I forget they just bought some con- something.


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[Assistant] Recently, I've just read it that looked interesting from Battlestar Galactica, they bought something


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[Assistant] Wintertime here too, so me and my daughter are watching Family Matters and Doogie Howser. Oh yeah. Four hours of Doogie Howser, like 13 episodes.


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[Assistant] I was even thinking about streaming so much is that they do this purchase and acquisition. They pretty much own the box office. Uhm, there's so many movies that are made.


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[Assistant] Marvel, the infinity stuff, billion dollars, it's like that. Now like, oh yeah, you guys screwed up X-Men, another billion dollars. We could fix that. Like they're, they have so much.


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[Assistant] I just, I just also want to say, uh, this is not a very positive, popular thing to say in this type of show.


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[Assistant] But that's why the real movement of the world, the only reason people buy fire sticks right now is because like what you said, they're not paying.


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[Assistant] Average people are doing, and I know people that aren't computer savvy and they're at the softball game talking about, hey, you want a fire stick, man? Just order one off Amazon, 40 bucks. I put it on there for $5. So, I mean, I'm like, wait, you know how to use a computer?


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[Assistant] They should, somebody should do something. I'm just telling you, like I said, when I, I was at a softball game and a dude that I went to high school with this dude.


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[Assistant] God bless him. He picks up recycling for a living. He's not a bright guy and he's out there slinging fire sticks at the softball game. And I'm like, he's selling packed fire sticks at the kids softball game all day. He's flipping them. The dude's making $120 a week.


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[Assistant] Flipping Firesticks. And again, he's not a bright guy. You know what? You want to know how impressive they are? Go onto Letgo app, type in Firestick. Go onto the Facebook Marketplace and type in Firestick and you will see people with stacks of 50 and 100 of them saying preloaded.


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[Assistant] Blah, blah, blah, $60, $80. This is an epidemic. I mean, again, you've been journalized and doing a real job. I'm living over here and people stealing stuff land and it is like donkey


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[Assistant] He's not a bright, I'm not going to say his name because that's insulting, but he, I mean, when I say it, not a bright guy, that's me being kind. And again, he's just selling it. What if he's listening?


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[Assistant] Alright, dropping them off in their recycling bins to people doing, going by their house. Hey, I can get you free TV. You want, you want CBS Discovery? I got you.


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[Assistant] Again, why would they? It's the only reason people buy this device. Go ahead and read the read. Read the blue sheet. We got stuff to do.


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[Assistant] Look, like I said, you guys live in a world of smart people and the bubble and life. I'm out here with Joe Schmo. I know how stuff gets down. Can we get to this ring? It's very important to me, Leo.


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[Assistant] If you don't buy me one for Christmas, I think I might buy one. The best thing you said with that.


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[Assistant] Was the sleep tracking because you're right. I've had a fit bitch from Apple watching it.


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[Assistant] That would be like great. Cause you know, if you get the right size, it feels good. You won't even notice. You don't know people sleep with rings on all the time.


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[Assistant] Just sports guy. And you know, he, he's the kind of parent that like wants to kill other people's kids. Like I like their kids, bro. Calm down. So he's, he's just a very interesting guy. Nice guy. Sweet guy. Slang and Cody's, uh, it's the American way side business.


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[Assistant] It's a great movie. It's a good Star Wars movie.


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[Assistant] They messed with some of my Star Wars stuff that as a purist, I find a huge


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[Assistant] Problem with, and I'll tell you one thing that's not a spoiler, but it's just one statement. Uh, the, the girl said, Godspeed.


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[Assistant] I'm waiting, I'm waiting for my new Pixel to come. I'm trying with all my heart to switch over from Apple.


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[Assistant] This'll do it for you. I got, well I got my pixel and then something was wrong with the microphone. Oh. So I had to send it back, so I'm waiting for them to, uh.


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[Assistant] Send me another one. Like I just got, I switched out my MacBook Pro and I am now on.


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[Assistant] Yes, yes. I love that laptop. I have last year's. Why get a Macbook? The speakers are actually really nice on this thing, too, for a laptop that's this thin. I'm thoroughly impressed with it and happy. I built a tower in the middle of the summer, I think I told you.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm, yep, the only thing I have left to get rid of is my, uh, app, my Mac Mini. And then I'll be, I'll be good. I still gotta keep my iPad down.


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[Assistant] I thought that was really cool. I was like one of the only people that liked that. Every time I try to talk to somebody about it, they're like, that's a horrible thing. I'm like, I just want to see it.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know what I'd do with it, but it looked like it was cool, like, you know, like Lego phone accessory stuff. I love the idea.


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[Assistant] We're, we're people that care about people and people wanted to know how to help everybody in these. Okay. Okay. Just tell me you're making a commercial and I'll be fine with that, but don't tell me this was the most searched stuff in 2017.


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[Assistant] I was about to say this has been again, when you live outside of it, it's been a long time coming that this has been going on. People have been upset with.


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[Assistant] The good guys you don't, but you're not. Average people can't afford to live and they're living in a shack to serve you a burrito.


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[Assistant] So that you can have some kid come in and do whatever you want them to do and make stuff that doesn't make any sense. I hope you get acquired. I mean, it's, it's really.


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[Assistant] And as far as the internet, uh, being the facilitators for negative connotations, conversations, guess what?


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[Assistant] There was a guy, I forget the baseball game, but the guy blew the call. He got,


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[Assistant] 10,000 letters in the first week, 100,000 letters in his lifetime about how he messed this up. People, people have always been ignorant, rude. They just had to put a stamp on it. Now they can just click and do it. The world is full.


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[Assistant] But I mean, the world's always been a good and a bad place. The internet just lets you see it if that's what you choose to see, more so than not. But you know, people are generally inherently good and hopefully things work out and the


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[Assistant] All this? Really? All this? It was, that was extreme. So I am fully backing the whole cautionary tale of, uh, let's see some evidence or proof of something because it was, that was kind of, come on, you kind of believe it because I don't, I don't want


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[Assistant] But some of us, I'm like, you hired us. Like, so basically you're out here torturing dudes from other companies trying to get, you know, you're hiring CIA X. I mean, come on. That's whoo. That's a lot. That's a lot. I don't, I don't know how much of that I believe I need to see some evidence, somebody somewhere it's got something to prove.


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[Assistant] That was actually a great episode. I got tagged in that.


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[Assistant] The reason I knew someone said, this is the most fun I've seen with Leo since episode oh doctor. And I'm like, oh, and I went and watched that. I was cracking up. Maybe we should do it.


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[Assistant] Here's a pro tip for joy. When you're scrolling down Facebook.


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[Assistant] And uh, you see somebody post a picture with their kid or their wife.


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[Assistant] This is an effort from Facebook to make sure you don't delete your account. That's all this is.


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[Assistant] You're good. It's basically just a mechanism to make sure that people don't rage quit Facebook.


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[Assistant] Uh, and that's why they, they instituted this because again, Facebook shows you who they want or think you want to see. I've got thousands of people I follow. I only see 32 people every single day and every once in a blue moon, somebody else cracks the surface. I'm like, oh, you're not dead.


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[Assistant] It has, because it's opened up windows and avenues for people.


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[Assistant] That never had an opportunity to see the world, reach the world, view the world. They're building space planes to bring internet to underdeveloped countries. There are a lot of positive things talking about. At the end of the day, it comes down to the individual, okay? First things first, when I was in the hospital, you know, again, my phone was dying, so I posted on Instagram, like,


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[Assistant] Uh, how do I make a new Instagram, uh, name? And I said, why do you want to do that? She said, well, all my friends did it. I said, well, why did your friends do it? Oh, they wanted to do a thing so they could get more followers and they think they need to change their name. And I said, well, if you change your name, you're putting up the same content. Do you think it's going to do any better for you just because you have a name change?


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[Assistant] She's like, no, I said, wouldn't you want to just change your content on the name you have and grow that following? She said yes. And so she didn't change her name. These are conversations that I have with my child.


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[Assistant] When she talks to her friends and says, it's not about how many likes you get, it's about what you put up and if you had fun and you liked it yourself. Why? Because I've talked that to her and I've instilled that in her to which she in turn instills into her other friends. So as people, we need to do better with the technology and the devices we have. So that's that in my perspective.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is one with a guy, I think maybe his house is on fire or something. There's a guy with a blow horn. He comes up and he, no, it's not on fire. The guy wants to set up a Twitter account and, uh,


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[Assistant] Maybe somebody sees it and wants to give it a try. That's the whole point of advertising. I don't know if it's going to work and I'm, I'm a Twitter user so I can't even speculate.


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[Assistant] After we get done, talk about WordPress, can we talk about these Amazon stories like the Target acquisition and the Google and Amazon talking about, uh, YouTube?


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[Assistant] Before we get out of here today, I'd like to hear your opinion on it.


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[Assistant] At least they listened and they did the right thing.


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[Assistant] My only suggestion would have been, hey, why don't you, you should have started off with like a smaller jab to the stomach.


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[Assistant] Yes, I do. And sadly I've been down for the last month so I haven't created content. I apologize to the people. I'm coming back to you in the new year. I apologize.


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[Assistant] Oh, I got two or three people that are like, Hey bro, I can't afford it. I'm sorry. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I got their email, I'm gonna email them, let them know about the world, whether they come back or not.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I always tell people if you give me something great, I always have a lot of time. If you're broke, just hit the subscribe button.


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[Assistant] And follow me because I understand people don't have money to be donating money out all the time either. So there's also free ways to support. Yep. And I appreciate that too.


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[Assistant] Amazon, the same reason I want to talk about the Target deal, Amazon wants to sell everything. Yep.


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[Assistant] They have something that's in direct competition with them, but it also sells like hotcakes, but it also relates to their other products because some of their products say,


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[Assistant] Oh, we work with Google home and then people see that they can't buy it all there in a bundle. They might go somewhere else and buy that option as a bundle package. So they want to sell everything. They need to sell everything. So I feel like that's why they're bringing it back in house. So they don't lose opportunities with all these smart home devices for a person that might not want, um, Amazon, Alexa, Echo, whatever. That's it.


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[Assistant] They're secretly doing what Walmart did. Uhm, I have a friend who


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[Assistant] His family business is something benign. His family business made of fitting for pipes.


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[Assistant] I concur. You, you think that you're the only being in this universe? That's just silly, sir.


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[Assistant] Technically it just could have been anything because it's just unidentified flying objects. So I mean, somebody could have been making a drone back in the 80s and you're wondering why this light's blinking and it flew away. So, you know.


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[Assistant] I can, I can give you a whole list of things that don't happen to my people. Like, you know, like in Philly, they kidnapped this little black girl. They brought her back because you just don't kidnap black kids. It's not worth it. It's a problem. You know, she, I forget she sang Jesus. Uh, she said Jesus on, she, she sung church hymns.


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[Assistant] I can give you a list of stuff that just generally doesn't happen as an abductions is one of them.


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[Assistant] So, uh, let me just talk to people because I usually do.


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[Assistant] So piggybacking on the happy holiday and whichever holiday you celebrate, that sounds awesome. We were talking about Facebook and Twitter and being on the internet and how sometimes it can ruin things, but I'm telling you,


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[Assistant] Call your aunt, call your uncle, call your friend, call that person that's single, that doesn't have any other or children, check in on them. It's the most wonderful time of the year, but this is the time of the year where people get really depressed and lonely and your phone call could make the difference. You stopping by could make the difference.


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[Assistant] Sir Petruchio, I am going to speak whether you like it or not. I am not a child. You cannot tell me what to do. Many men, who are much greater than you, have listened to me speak my mind. If you cannot listen to me, you had better close your ears, because I will say what I like.


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[Assistant] Sir, I am sorry to say, it is now two o'clock.


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[Assistant] We cannot reach my father's house before seven o'clock.


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[Assistant] Sir, please let us go on. We have come so far. The sun shall be the moon, or the stars, or whatever you say it is. It will be the same for me.


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[Assistant] But it is not the sun if you say it isn't. What you want it to be, it is. It will be the same for Katharina, your wife.


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[Assistant] You are as pretty as a flower. Where are you going? And where is your home? Your parents must be happy to have such a pretty daughter.


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[Assistant] The sun was in my eyes, and you looked like a young maid. Now I see you are a wise old man. I hope you will forgive me.


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[Assistant] He could be still amiable, still pleasing to my uncle and aunt when he was in town, and why not to me? If he fears me, why come hither? If he no longer cares for me, why silent? Teasing, teasing man, I will think


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[Assistant] How could I ever be foolish enough to expect a renewal of his love?


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[Assistant] Is there one among the sex who would not protest against such a weakness as a second proposal to the same woman? There is no indignity so abhorrent to their feelings.


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[Assistant] And quite alone. Have all her friends left her?


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[Assistant] This is the Spire, which is a very cool device, about 350 bucks. This has kind of been my recording studio for the past month. It's basically like an 8-track recording studio.


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[Assistant] Only think of it being three months. She cried.


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[Assistant] Since I went away, it seems but a fortnight, I declare, and yet there have been things enough happened in the time. Good gracious!


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[Assistant] When I went away, I'm sure I had no more idea of being married till I came back again, though I thought it would be very good fun if I was.


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[Assistant] Mama, do the people hereabouts know I am married today? I was afraid they might not, and we overtook William Golding in his curacle, so I was determined he should know it, and so I let down the side glass next to him, and took off my glove.


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[Assistant] And let my hand just rest upon the window frame, so that he might see the ring, and then I bowed and smiled like anything.


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[Assistant] Oh Jane, I take your place now and you must go lower because I am a married woman.


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[Assistant] And what do you think of my husband? Is he not a charming man?


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[Assistant] I'm sure my sisters must all envy me. I only hope they may have half my good luck.


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[Assistant] They must all go to Brighton. That is the place to get husbands. What a pity it is, Mama, we did not all go.


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[Assistant] Oh lord yes, there is nothing in that. I shall like it of all things.


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[Assistant] You and papa, and my sisters, must come down and see us.


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[Assistant] We should be in Newcastle all the winter, and I dare say there will be some balls, and I will take care to get good partners for all of them.


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[Assistant] Laugh, you are so strange. But I must tell you how it went off.


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[Assistant] We were married, you know, at St Clement's because Wickham's lodgings were in that parish. And it was settled that we should all be there by 11 o'clock.


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[Assistant] My uncle and aunt and I were to go together, and the others were to meet us at the church.


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[Assistant] Well, Monday morning came and I was in such a fuss. I was so afraid, you know, that something would happen to put it off. And then I should have gone quite distracted. And that was my aunt. All the time I was dressing.


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[Assistant] Preaching and talking away just as if she was reading a sermon.


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[Assistant] However, I did not hear above one word in ten, for I was thinking, you may suppose, of my dear Wickham, and longed to know whether he would be married in his blue coat. Well, and so we breakfasted at ten as usual.


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[Assistant] I thought it would never be over, for by the by, you are to understand, that my uncle and aunt were horrid and pleasant all the time I was with them.


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[Assistant] If you'll believe me, I did not once put my foot out of doors, though I was there a fortnight. Not one party or scheme or anything. To be sure, London was rather thin. But, however, the little theatre was open.


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[Assistant] Well, and so, just as the carriage came to the door, my uncle was called away upon business to that horrid man, Mr. Stone.


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[Assistant] And then, you know, once they get together there is no end of it.


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[Assistant] Well, I was so frightened I did not know what to do for my uncle was to give me away. And if we were beyond the hour we could not be married all day. But luckily...


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[Assistant] He came back again in ten minutes time, and then we all set out.


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[Assistant] However, I recollected afterwards that if you've been prevented going, the wedding need not be put off, for Mr. Darcy might have done as well.


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[Assistant] Oh, yes, he was to come there with Wickham, you know. But gracious me, I quite forgot. I ought not to have said a word about it.


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[Assistant] I promised them so faithfully. What will Wickham say? It was to be such a secret.


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[Assistant] Chapter 40 of Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen. This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain.


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[Assistant] For more information or to volunteer, please visit LibriVox.org Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen, Chapter 40


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[Assistant] Elizabeth's impatience to acquaint Jane with what had happened could no longer be overcome.


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[Assistant] And at length resolving to suppress every particular in which her sister was concerned and preparing her to be surprised.


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[Assistant] She related to her the next morning the chief of the scene between Mr. Darcy and herself.


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[Assistant] Miss Bennet's astonishment was soon lessened by the strong sisterly partiality which made any admiration of Elizabeth appear perfectly natural. And all surprise was shortly lost in other feelings.


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[Assistant] She was sorry that Mr. Daracy should have delivered his sentiments in a manner so little suited to recommend them.


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[Assistant] But still more was she grieved for the unhappiness which her sister's refusal must have given him.


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[Assistant] She then spoke of the letter, repeating the whole of its contents as far as they concerned George Wickham.


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[Assistant] What a stroke was this for poor Jane, who would willingly have gone through the world without believing that so much wickedness existed in the whole race of mankind, as was here collected in one individual.


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[Assistant] Nor was Darcy's vindication, though grateful to her feelings, capable of consoling her for such discovery.


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[Assistant] Most earnestly did she labor to prove the probability of error and seek to clear the one without involving the other.


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[Assistant] She had got rid of two of the secrets which had weighed on her for a fortnight.


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[Assistant] And was certain of a willing listener in Jane whenever she might wish to talk again of either.


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[Assistant] But there was still something lurking behind of which prudence pervaded the disclosure.


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[Assistant] She dared not relate the other half of Mr. Darcy's letter.


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[Assistant] Nor explain to her sister how sincerely she had been valued by her friend. Here was knowledge in which no one could partake.


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[Assistant] Could justify her in throwing off this last encumbrance of mystery.


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[Assistant] She was now on being settled at home, at leisure to observe the real state of her sister's spirits. Jane was not happy. She still cherished a very tender affection for Bingley. Having never even fancied herself in love before, her regard had all the warmth of first attachment, and from her age and disposition


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[Assistant] That all her good sense and all her attention to the feelings of her friends were requisite to check the indulgence of those regrets which must have been injurious to her own health and their tranquility.


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[Assistant] But as Elizabeth could not receive comfort from any such expectation, she made no answer.


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[Assistant] Not, perhaps, of neglecting his own interest, but of every other neglect I can believe him capable, if indeed it should be so. But I dare not hope it. Why should they not go on to Scotland if that had been the case?


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[Assistant] His most particular friend you see by Jane's account was persuaded of his never intending to marry her.


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[Assistant] Wickham will never marry a woman without some money. He cannot afford it. And what claims has Lydia?


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[Assistant] What attraction has she beyond youth, health and good humour that could make him, for her sake?


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[Assistant] Forgo every chance of benefiting himself by marrying well.


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[Assistant] As to what restraint the apprehensions of disgrace in the call might throw on a dishonorable elopement whipper, I am not able to judge, for I know nothing of the effects that such a step might produce.


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[Assistant] But as to your other objection, I am afraid it will hardly hold good. Lydia has no brothers to set forward, and he might imagine, from my father's behaviour,


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[Assistant] That he would do as little and think as little about it as any father could do in such a matter.


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[Assistant] She has been allowed to dispose of her time in the most idle and frivolous manner, and to adopt any opinions that came in her way.


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[Assistant] She's been doing everything in her power by thinking and talking on the subject to give greater, what shall I call it, susceptibility to her feelings, which are naturally lively enough.


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[Assistant] And who is there, whatever might be their former conduct, that she would think capable of such an attempt till it were proved against them?


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[Assistant] But Jane knows as well as I do what Wickham really is.


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[Assistant] We both know that he has been profligate in every sense of the word, that he has neither integrity nor honor.


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[Assistant] I told you the other day of his infamous behaviour to Mr. Darcy, and you yourself when last at Longbourn,


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[Assistant] And there are other circumstances which I am not at liberty, which it is not worth while to relate.


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[Assistant] But his lies about the whole Pemberley family are endless.


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[Assistant] From what he said of Miss Darcy, I was thoroughly prepared to see a proud, reserved, disagreeable girl. Yet he knew to the contrary himself.


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[Assistant] Till I was in Kent, and saw so much both of Mr. Darcy and his relation Colonel Fitzwilliam, I was ignorant of the truth myself.


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[Assistant] As that was the case, neither Jane, to whom I related the whole, nor I, thought it necessary to make our knowledge public, for of what use could it apparently be to any one?


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[Assistant] The necessity of opening her eyes to his character never occurred to me.


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[Assistant] That such a consequence as this could ensue, you may easily believe, was far enough from my thoughts.


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[Assistant] I can remember no symptom of affection on either side and had anything of the kind been perceptible.


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[Assistant] When first he entered the court she was ready enough to admire him, but so we all were.


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[Assistant] Every girl in or near Meryton was out of her senses about him for the first two months, but he never distinguished her by any particular attention, and consequently


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[Assistant] After a moderate period of extravagant and wild admiration, her fancy for him gave way.


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[Assistant] Blue lives matter. It's time to get rid of guns. I'll keep my guns freedom race. White kids chant n-word in school bus.


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[Assistant] Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for at least five years.


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[Assistant] To exploit Trump's personal obsessions and sexual perversion in order to obtain suitable compromise, compromising material on him.


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[Assistant] You can thank Congress, the same people that can't even give us h-care.


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[Assistant] Senator Mitch McConnell said I had excessive expectations, but I don't think so.


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[Assistant] After seven years of hearing repeal and replace, why not done?


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[Assistant] Can you believe that Mitch McConnell, who has screamed repeal and replace for seven years, couldn't get it done?


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[Assistant] Mitch, get back to work and put repeal and replace, tax reform and cuts, and a great infrastructure bill on my desk for signing.


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[Assistant] His testimony was powerful, honest, and riveting. Democrats' search and destroy strategy is disgraceful.


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[Assistant] I don't see anybody really that I'm jumping up and down about if they have an opportunity that I think will really help the Browns.


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[Assistant] Oh, I'm sorry. I, I, I would, listen, I would look at, I still would look at Beckham. I still, I still take a look at that. I'mma raise mine at two. Right. You want to bring, you want to bring Beckham into the mix too?


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[Assistant] No, he can't. His arm is shot. You know? He never was the same after he got that little, that shoulder thing. No.


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[Assistant] But I don't think Zeke gonna be happy. We trying to get Nick Chubb to rock and he get it 14 times. We been mad as hell. Can you imagine where fans in Ohio would say, you got Zeke Elliott and Chubb.


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[Assistant] He's going to be miserable. At least he getting, at least he getting a Fiki Fiki split with Pollard. And that was, he going to be here looking at Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] You talk about, this dude told you he, this dude told you he only gonna, he only gonna do, uh, uh, pass rush downs. That's like, that's like you go to school and your son, you go to parent-teacher conferences and the teacher say, listen, well, Aaron's doing great, but, uh, he told me he was only gonna do social studies this week. He's not doing math. He said no math, no spelling.


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[Assistant] See, this is one of them names, I don't want to fall into the trope of, I just see names, I say Anthony Barr. Right. Anthony Barr, he's fast. Anthony Barr's not good anymore.


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[Assistant] They look all good in them spandex and all the, all the tights and leggings, and then they fool you. They get out there, they're just actors. These dudes don't be tackling nobody. Uh, yeaah. No, Anthony Bars.


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[Assistant] What's the scouting reporter your boy? Is he good?