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[Assistant] So me, my obligation, based on my culture, is to help people do that. You know what I mean? I feel like that's what we're doing right now. So if there's any way for me to end out, that's what I like to say, that that's my obligation. And I'm obligated to do the things that I do with rap, and I'm only going to get rewarded for them.


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[Assistant] And shout out to you. You, you, like I said, we have, uh, people don't know that. You know, I actually was talking to, uh, some good people in the music industry about you and our relationship.


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[Assistant] And things and ex- and expressing to them, cause I saw a pair, you know,


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[Assistant] You been at the highest level on the come up. At the highest level of the come up. Not at the highest level, but the highest level of having a buzz, having a platform, being able to now go into the music industry off that platform, to tour off that platform, to live off merch, and then to have some things come. Maybe nobody in this room


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[Assistant] Would be hit with some of the shit you was hit with from public scrutiny.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying to where your moms, your sister, motherfuckers is like, yo, this is my people. You feel me? And even I'm just somebody that knows you, people are judging me off of that. You feel me? So to go through that shit and you stood silent and I was just telling them people I respected their stance in dealing with you.


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[Assistant] I respected that. And I, and I, and I just know, I don't get into it, just my, where I am, I don't get into nobody personal business, that's not my thing. But I do know when people are sincere, cause there's certain things in energy that I'm saying, I'm not gonna say this on another podcast, cause it just ain't gonna work. You feel me?


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[Assistant] It just ain't gonna work. So I just wanted to make sure that we get all that out and we say that.


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[Assistant] Early on, man. Early on, man. We got it. You know you done had the gangsters come through here too.


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[Assistant] You be coming. Shout out, Tax. You know, me and Mena did the, uhm, I sent it to you, you know, Shortline had a number one podcast. No, I saw that, yeaah. I didn't check it out yet, but that's, that's fire. You was number one for a couple of days. Oh yeaah. That's crazy. And we got part two coming. You gonna be on part two. Oh, I'm ready. Cause it's more like the art bearing. And then they had part three, which is, uh, continuing what they do. So it's like every six months we just gonna follow up.


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[Assistant] Legendary shit. Exposed shit. Yeah, he got some, I seen some wild shit with Minty Slick. I believe it. Over the years. I seen some wild shit with you.


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[Assistant] So I think the last people I got, I don't know if we got time, I just want them to get some FaceTime.


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[Assistant] Uhm, can we get cho- cho- chosen few? We good. I'ma come outside man with ya. That's the real party.


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[Assistant] So look, if you, Jeff Weiss is an advocate of them. Oh, okay. So our first light came off of Jeff Weiss, we saw them, you know Foster, you met Foster before? Oh no. If you see Foster back, you're gonna be like, oh yea, I know Foster. Okay. So Foster fucked with them, put them up on his IG page, me and Peace. Peace saw it, was like, this is crazy. I saw it, I was like, this is crazy.


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[Assistant] And we just head around to eventually the homie Kaleo said he grew up on the block. Kaleo from Wicked Thoughts. This is homies. They grew up down the street. They know each other their whole life.


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[Assistant] So they wicked, you know, they're a part of that. So Khalil is a part of them. And, uh, bruh, we all connected and, um, I love what they doing and we're developing it. And, um, it's some other shit. You gotta really listen to it. This is, uh, I don't, like,


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[Assistant] But uhm, yeaah, we working with them, developing them. They got some sick shit. I wanted them to get FaceTime. Y'all see them. I been hitting Eddie Baker up about getting them on the road with him. Oh, for real? Yeaah, they kinda like our street.


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[Assistant] It's that type of world type of shit. Okay. Yeah, cause you got, once again, you gotta have all that choice of not opposing anything. Yeah.


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[Assistant] But they doing it from South Central though. I think that's why theirs is a little different.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, we just wanted to, yeaah, I just wanted to have it. It's an epic thing. I know the kids are probably going to be what the fuck, but we had to do it. There's a lot of people in here you don't know, and you're like, who is these old motherfuckers talking? Hey man, this is the shit. You know what I mean? I'm cooler than your pops.


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[Assistant] So yea, Sophie, you wanna do it too? Cause Sophie, you are art baron and no jumper. Don't try to act like you not. Huh?


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[Assistant] People reached out and then cancelled interviews or then said, oh, we've changed our direction. I've taken, had to take certain measures in order to reestablish myself.


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[Assistant] That's basically what it sound like to me. Me too. And Tim Anderson basically said, man I'ma see you again, I'ma catch you in these streets and then it's gonna be the same thing all over again.


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[Assistant] And pre-production while me and Athene was preparing for the show, I turn to Athene and go, man, this list look weird. This list don't make no sense, but I'm not here to question it. I'm just here to do my job.


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[Assistant] You know how we all talk about, oh he came from a rich family and blah blah blah? He didn't. His best friend made that up.


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[Assistant] They haven't talked since. Said that he made up that whole storyline, that to, to, cause Johnny was taking money for autographs.


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[Assistant] By the way, I'm going to, I'm going to take folks behind the scenes because, so Steve Becker was, was texting us in a group to see if my man Darrell Rider, who's the Browns beat reporter for the fan would come on our show and Earl was saying, well, maybe we'll try to get them. And Steve was saying, there's zero chance they're going to let them on guys. I'm going to tell you this right now.


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[Assistant] The fan is not gonna let Darryl come on with us. Gee, you know that. Oh no, that's not happening. There's zero chance. Darryl, all the guys from the fan want to come on this show. Lima.


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[Assistant] But I wanted one of them to be on my TV podcast, which G has been on, which Mikey will be on today. It has nothing to do with none of this. It has nothing to do with sports. On my TV podcast. He didn't ask me. And they wouldn't let me. He wouldn't let him come out with me. So that's how petty they're being. So anyway, so don't, then Darryl can't come on.


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[Assistant] Well, that, that, that we'll find out for sure based on what Watson does this year because that was the biggest trade.


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[Assistant] Yes. I agree. Not that I would really blame him if watching ended up not working out. Nobody was mad.


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[Assistant] Of course. Of course. The only people that were mad about it were...


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[Assistant] The, yes, the baggage people and the extreme Johnny Manziel uh, Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Not useless pieces, but, but guys were not super important that got hurt on the defensive line. Now, maybe even a guy who's a little more important, because Jerome Ford was


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[Assistant] Uh, drum for it, there you go, from, from Mary Kay. So the injury will miss some time, whatever that means. His status for the team's season opener is in doubt. Oh hell nah.


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[Assistant] Nobody, there was no buzz on his name for months. Yesterday, there was a report he was signing with the Saints, and then at the last second, apparently the cults called his agent and said, come to Indianapolis, we'll offer you more money.


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[Assistant] He's not going to be happy being Nick Chubb's backup. He might say he is, but he won't be. He's not that, he's an alpha dog. He's not going to want to come here and be the number two guy. I don't know if this is an opportunity for him to be a number one guy, but as you say, if a starter gets hurt somewhere, then maybe he has that opportunity. I don't see that here.


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[Assistant] I'm fine if they want to bring in another back, but bring in another young guy that's somewhere from another team that maybe you see. But I think Demetriq Felton, I agree with you. I think he's got the same type of skill set as Ford. I also like what I've seen from Kelly in the preseason. I think he's only had like 30 NFL carries.


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[Assistant] I agree with you. I don't think it's as much as I love Nick Chubb. I don't think it's as big a deal. Only because, only if Deshaun Watson is back.


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[Assistant] Only the super elites can survive without stars. Right. The super elites only, that's it. I'm not, nobody's denying that the Browse won't be worse without the Jugg.


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[Assistant] Matt, Steeler fans are going on and on about Kenny Pickett. Uh, now we want the Steelers to suck 100%. I hope they lose every game this year. In fact, I want them to lose every game the rest of the history of their franchise. That'd be great. Uh, I'm not a believer in Kenny Pickett, but I wonder if maybe I'm being biased.


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[Assistant] Because I hate the Steelers. So, are you, to me Kenny Pickett is Jimmy Garoppolo, Mac Jones, that level of quarterback. He's just a guy along for the ride maybe. Uh, am I wrong about that? Is he going to be better than that?


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[Assistant] Matt, what is, uh, you mentioned Elijah Moore. There's a lot of hype for him. We all think, we're all optimistic about his potential. But there hasn't been much production the first two years. I know it was a Jets team with bad quarterback play.


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[Assistant] Uh, but he was unhappy there. He, you know, was complaining about getting opportunities. What happened there and what makes you think he'll be much better here?


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[Assistant] Matt, uh, get back to the Steelers here for a second. You know, their offensive line's been an issue the last couple of years. I know it improved last year a little bit.


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[Assistant] They're panicking. They're panicking, man. Tell them how crazy they are.


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[Assistant] Who's the quarterback, you gotta be honest here, we're taking you at your word. Who's the quarterback that you thought was gonna be good, nobody else thought they were gonna be good, and you were right about? And who's the quarterback you thought was gonna be good, but he turned out not to be good?


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[Assistant] Good gracious. And who'd you get it wrong on? Who'd you get it wrong on?


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[Assistant] Every NFL team was redrafting. If you were redrafting the entire NFL right now, uh, forget contracts, but factor in guys' age. Obviously Patrick Mahomes would go first. Who would go second?


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[Assistant] I agree, and I think when it comes to not only running backs, but quarterbacks and wide receivers, we have to look at the numbers differently than we used to. For quarterbacks and receivers, there's gotta be higher levels to reach.


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[Assistant] Because you're gonna have quarterbacks that are good, that are putting up better numbers than, you know, current Hall of Famers, and vice versa with running backs. It's, you gotta look at the numbers a little differently. Matt, great stuff, man. We appreciate you.


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[Assistant] Fellas, we got a major problem here. Our guys behind the glass think that the special teams coach is more important than a quarter of the starters on this team.


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[Assistant] There was an average of .22 blocks per game.


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[Assistant] I'll guess, Dallas needed a new kicker, but they got another guy.


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[Assistant] We had that bond, yea, you're right. Here's the funny part, when I played like elementary school football, I played running back. That's great. Nice.


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[Assistant] Tall. It was crazy. I looked way older. And then of course I just stopped growing. And everybody shot past me. But at that, and I was a big strong kid.


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[Assistant] Can't even get decent chairs for Earl and Anthony over there.


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[Assistant] But I can see it, I can see it right now though. Uh, speaking of Brian Hoyer, he was.


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[Assistant] Booted out of his job for Johnny Manzell. There was one shot in the Johnny Manzell documentary where you see the 92-3 the fan.


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[Assistant] And there's somebody standing behind the table, it's so blurred and so quick. I gotta do it as a brooder film. I think it might be me standing there in the background.


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[Assistant] Heads in one of the clips. Of those days we were, we were.


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[Assistant] And I, with the Manzell thing, I've been on the air three years here and...


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[Assistant] The hype for that draft was just bananas. It was. And Dustin was like, you, he wanted Manziel, he was at it. And I was like, no, no, no, I don't want him, I don't want him. And then like a week before the draft I was like, I felt like I had gotten worn down by everybody. And I was just like,


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[Assistant] You know, a lot of fans won't admit this now, but from the second he started goofing off, not studying, doing all this crap,


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[Assistant] They were, I remember getting on the air when they beat the Bengals the next day and I was like, the Browns are going to the playoffs. Yup. Mark it down.


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[Assistant] Even in college, he didn't prepare like a normal player. He didn't have to.


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[Assistant] Is Earl, are you one of the people that are mad that they didn't talk more about the Browns?


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[Assistant] Oh, okay. Yeah, cause Grossi made a big thing about there wasn't more Browns or why didn't they mention Ray Farmer.


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[Assistant] The best teams in the league. That was the only time really ever that the Browns and Bengals were good at the same time. Same time. Yep, yep. Because Boomer and Bernie had such great...


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure Ray Farmer didn't want him. Although Ray Farmer supposedly called down and forced Mike Patton to put him in. But my guess is that Jimmy forced him to do that. That's my guess.


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[Assistant] So, there's a, there's a newspaper on the west side, if you live on the west side, called, I mean you can get it on the east side, I'm sure too. It's called Westlife.


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[Assistant] My wife wrote an article, uh, column for this month's, uh, this week's edition of Westlife.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no. They're asked to do this right now, and those guys both had great years last year. Now, Patonio did too, but it sounds worse because if you look at the careers of Gino,


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[Assistant] I'm not paying attention to no guard. I feel like many, not all, but I feel like media members are more likely to answer, like do more thorough job of answering the question. Whereas a lot of, I think players are more likely to do it off the top of their head.


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[Assistant] On what planet is Jalen Hurts better than Joe Burrow?


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[Assistant] A lot of times, if you ask a baseball player, oh, who's the best pitcher you ever faced, a lot of hitters will say some random pitcher, because he struggled against that guy. Exactly. And he did well against some other shooters. Exactly. So, but that doesn't make the guy the best, he was just the best against you. Hey, then he not that good to me. That's what I'm saying. By the way. In the end,


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[Assistant] Media members are biased too. They like a guy, so they gotta vote him higher. They don't like a guy. I think...


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[Assistant] I would argue that the Bengals have a couple of lower tier top 100 players on their defense, but their defense gets no respect.


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[Assistant] Okay, yeaah, I think he, I was surprised he wasn't on it. Now I'm surprised that T. Higgins is not up top. How many wide receivers are on the list?


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[Assistant] He's pretty high considering he's a rookie. He was in the top 20 I think.


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[Assistant] He's not Paul Amalu. Did he get his picks? Yea, but he hasn't played. When, when Troy, when Troy Paul Amalu played, the Steelers were great, and when he didn't, they weren't great.


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[Assistant] One of the Andersons, Morton or Gary? Morton, Morton probably. Obviously Justin Tucker. Yeaah, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I know. I was thinking about switching us to a different website, cause Yahoo sucks.


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[Assistant] Nah, they suck too. CBS, there's some new ones. I'm gonna look at them.


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[Assistant] I like Yahoo. Yahoo's for amateurs. We gotta step it up.


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[Assistant] Yeah, too cool. I like that now. Now we're doing more cashola this year too. Yes sir. Doing what? What, we're doing what? More bread.


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[Assistant] First of all, it's inappropriate to say it's his, because it ain't his, it's his parents.


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[Assistant] The Antonelli household has a very odd driveway. And he called you in from where? Where were you that he called you in from? In my apartment.


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[Assistant] Would have been real easy. Alright, you should have waited until summer, but go ahead.


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[Assistant] Do you believe he was a virgin before he got married? No.


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[Assistant] Alright, number four. Tim Tebow was a virgin before he got married, wasn't he?


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[Assistant] I'm gonna be totally honest, this is gonna make me look bad, but I keep it real. I was rooting for news to break about him being a phony. Like that he, something inappropriate happened with him. I was rooting for it.


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[Assistant] You know what, Anthony, you shouldn't, when I was your age, or maybe a little younger, 22, 23, I would have never thought I would have moved out of Brooklyn. Never.


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[Assistant] Like, was there an event that happened that led to the surgery or was it just something you were going to have to do at some point in your life?


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[Assistant] The pizza, here at this place. Here. Yeah, my best friend left me. He was like, man, you trippin'. But, look at me now.


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[Assistant] I'm a man myself at the end of the day. It's a regular dissemination if you dead or alive. That part.


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[Assistant] The interviews of the patients told us...


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[Assistant] Repeatedly, it's foster farms predominantly, not in every case, but most of them mentioned foster farms. I think about 80% said that.


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[Assistant] I think Foster Farms had passed all of their sets in terms of the


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[Assistant] I think what we learned in this particular outbreak is that it's not detectable perhaps at the time we test or, you know, given the concerns about or the questions about techniques.


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[Assistant] When we sample the foster farms plants,


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[Assistant] In three of them, we found roughly 25% of chicken parts, maybe slightly higher, had salmonella.


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[Assistant] Predominantly Salmonella Heidelberg, and more than that, most of them had the outbreak streams.


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[Assistant] Very convincing evidence to us that this plant was, or these plants, three of the four,


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[Assistant] Because at that point, none of those samples were linked directly to somebody getting sick.


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[Assistant] We were missing that straight line, that direct line of evidence that would have made it possible for us to request a recall.


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[Assistant] In this case, it didn't quite match. Yes, it was produced from a plant and was associated with this outbreak, but it was a different strain. So this is one where we thought we were close and it didn't pan out.


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[Assistant] We believe we took the strongest action we can take. They have to respond to our notice that we're gonna withdraw inspectors, you're gonna have to shut down your operations. And they presented to us a plan.


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[Assistant] And the agency looked at it and said, it looks like they can control salmonella if they implement all these things.


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[Assistant] Chocroaches infestations of any pest can bring in pathogens, salmonella.


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[Assistant] Or other things that could contaminate the environment, could contaminate products.


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[Assistant] They should have accounted for it and they should have done something more than what they did.


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[Assistant] If they had an outbreak in 2004, we had that letter that you just read and it says,


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[Assistant] If they had another outbreak at Salmonella Heidelberg, then I don't think they did enough. And what are the consequences of that?


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[Assistant] The consequences, uhm, were probably more letters like that and more...


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[Assistant] Expectations on the part of the agency that they make some changes.


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[Assistant] So what that suggests to me is that they,


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[Assistant] Recommended that they look at salmonella and salmonella heidelberg in particular as a hazard reasonably likely to occur. Account for that in their food safety system and they did not. And is there some punishment for that?


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[Assistant] But are you a Marxist? I think you did admit that you consider yourself a Marxist.


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[Assistant] Is it older? I mean is that, I guess that's it. 32. You know, production.


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[Assistant] You very rarely see defensive linemen getting, uh, you know, big time money after a certain age because of just the breakdowns and being, you know, in the trenches. So I think age played a little bit of a role in it.


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[Assistant] So you can cut guys, but you can also keep exciting guys easier by doing the draft and go with younger. But as far as am I excited? I'm super ecstatic because this is a move.


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[Assistant] And I've always said, Andrew Barry might not be that great at, uh, really drafting players, but when it comes to his trades and free agent pickups, he does, he's a, he's top tier. Because this guy right here just transformed your defensive line into a defensive line that is formidable.


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[Assistant] Athletic. And they are going to get after people. You watch him and you go back. Just simply Google him. Uh, you know, I like D-Tackles. I'm a D-Tackle junkie. I'm in junkie.


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[Assistant] Go back and just watch some of the plays that he can make. Uhm, you know, McNuggets, I watched his short yesterday and he was talking about it. But this, I mean, this guy is gonna be a force along with Dalvin Tomlinson, Zedarius Smith, Oboe, you got Miles Garrett. Remember,


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[Assistant] When we got Zaria Smith, we were just talking about whether or not they have the best defensive lineman in the league, right? And they still had a question mark at the other defensive tackle spot. I think legitimately you can make, uh, you can make a case for them to be the top defensive lineman unit.


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[Assistant] That is, that is tremendous. When you're in the trenches, like just little things like,


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[Assistant] You know, there's so many things, cause you, it's a context for every single play. You know, receivers don't get every play, like, you know, sometimes running backs, they don't, they don't catch the ball, quarterbacks especially. But when you out front in the trenches, you gonna hit somebody every play.


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[Assistant] Dumb stuff like wrist injuries or, or bicep tear, uh, you know, chest tears, you know, peck tears, things like that. Not to mention there's all kinds of garbage around your legs, uhm, you know, ACLs, different things like that falling on people. For him to be able to play that many games in, in that, in his time, in his career,


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[Assistant] It's super impressive. And so if you look at it, for the most part, for the most part, everybody up front that they brought in is durable.


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[Assistant] For the most part, Miles Garry doesn't miss games. He, heck, he flipped his cards to a play.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, you look at Dalvin Tomlinson and Al Harris, he doesn't miss very many games. And so, you know, Zedaria Smith has been banged up a little bit, but


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[Assistant] They did a good job in, in supplementing him and getting, uh, oboe and getting that guy to be one of their Swiss Army knives. And now you can move in McGuire. I think McGuire will move into one of those positions, second team. He'll probably take over for Wright and Isaiah Thomas. And now the Browns continue the road.


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[Assistant] Really good. I thought he got a big fourth down stop. Yeah!


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[Assistant] It's amazing. Defensive line and secondary I think are set.


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[Assistant] I love what they did out there. They even, you know, from bringing McCloud to Thornhill, bringing some of that leadership. Uhm, they got three good corners. Uhm, and then now you look at it, they've upgraded defensive line, which is going to help who I think is the focal point of the defense if they want to be what they want to be. I think the Browns have an opportunity to be a team


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[Assistant] That, that you base your meta around. I think people, if they play well like they, I think they will, teams will start to copy what they've done, because JOK,


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[Assistant] Can learn to diagnose, read plays, trust his eyes and not get caught up in misdirection stuff and be a sideline to sideline player. The Browns now have what I call, what I would say, one of the most devastating defenses because


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[Assistant] They have enough speed to really lock down fast quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson, but they still have guys that have the ability to cover in the back end if you're going against the lead throwers. And if J.O.K., they can get him together and what he does best is blitz because he just runs around people.


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[Assistant] That type of speed up front, when you got Demond, Miles Garrison, Zaria Smith, that's trouble. That is trouble for people.


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[Assistant] Especially when it's simplified like this. Uhm, if you're playing, to be honest with you,


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[Assistant] 3-4 defense is way harder to play than 4-3 defense because you're moving laterally. And so if you're playing a 3-4, and I played them both, 3-4 is asking your lineman to either move one step left and one step right.


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[Assistant] And when you're moving, you have a three person panel in front of you. If I'm lined up with a face up with the tackle.


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[Assistant] And the guard is on this side, and the tag titan is on that side.


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[Assistant] What I'm doing is I'm looking towards the guard or the tight end.


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[Assistant] So if I come off the line of scrimmage, I'm not even worried about the person in front of me.


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[Assistant] I'm looking automatically at the guard because if the guard is coming towards me, I gotta do what I call redirect and go the other way because he's trying to reach me. If I'm sitting here and the, and the, the tackle or the guard blocks down,


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[Assistant] I know that they're trying to block down on another guy and get to a linebacker, so now I have to get to that and beat this tackle in front of me to the spot. So you're already, you gotta have good peripheral vision, you gotta be stepping and always watching. But when they play in a 4-3, and they just tell you pin your ears back and get up field, that's what we all love to do. Because what we do is say, we're not worried about where the ball carrier is going.


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[Assistant] We want to dictate and cause havoc where the ball carrier can't


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[Assistant] He's cutting right back into another guy that's getting in the backfield. So it's confusion, it's chaos, and every single player puts maximum pressure on those four or five guys up front and they don't get a break. That's why I like playing that. So week one he'll be good? Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] I also think, and I said this about a week ago, this could be a refer- this was a referendum on, uh, Jordan Elliott. They- they put Jordan Elliott in the Hall of Fame game and that was a signal


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[Assistant] You know, especially when you're a guy that used to start last year. Right. They're just trying to say, I'm gonna give you every opportunity to go out here and prove yourself and do your thing.


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[Assistant] And we gonna, we wanna see if you, we need to go up and upgrade. He played in the Hall of Fame game. We didn't see much. So that means he was a starter and he did nothing against threes and fours.


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[Assistant] And Kevin Stefanski said that the starters are going to play.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I would, like to me, I would play, who did I hear say this earlier? I forget where I heard it, but I thought it was a really good point. Anything that don't involve timing, those players not playing.


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[Assistant] Does it take timing to be like, oh, I'm a defensive lineman, I rush the quarterback? No. Like so. You wouldn't play Miles Garry. Heck no. What's the difference? We'll talk about.


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[Assistant] Conklin? No thanks. No thank you. No. I would start Hubbert and, uh, Dewan Jones.


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[Assistant] Uh, excuse me, Hudson, yea, Hudson, I can't always remember. Hudson and DeWine Jones, they be starting, I get Nick Harrison there at guard a little bit, cause he has, in poachage, and I'm rolling with that. I'm, the guys, I don't need to see none of the linebackers.


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[Assistant] Taki Taki wasn't going to play. Anthony Walker wasn't going to play. Uhm, I wouldn't even really play J.O.K. like that to be true for me.


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[Assistant] So what you're saying, Dumpy's getting beat, is he getting beat on specific routes? Uhm, is he just not, is he not aggressive enough? Or, is it play recognition? Is it he not reading leads?


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[Assistant] Like, if we in a war, I don't wanna hear, hey, uh, General G. Bush, we're gonna have to keep our Air Force around.


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[Assistant] You see that all, all, he got a highlight, he got a highlight tape of nothing but bad. You, it's, it's the Jedrick Will's Looney Tunes hour. Which way did he go, George? Which way did he go? Where did he go? Is he up here? Is he down there? Listen, this dude be looking at her and then he'll stop in the middle of a play. He'll, somebody will beat him and he'll just be like, what is that?


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[Assistant] Like, he just needs to be more aggressive. Bro, you can't teach no aggressives to no office alignment.


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[Assistant] And yet, Nick Chubb making y'all look awful good up there. Nick, you better, you better, usually people buy office alignment gifts. You better give Nick Chubb gifts. Like, here you go, Nick. I'mma just give you this Rolex piece.


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[Assistant] Oh, by the way, Tyvis, is your, give us a scoop. Uh, is your, can you confirm that Richard Sherman is taking over for Shannon Sharp, uh, with Skip Bayless? Can you confirm that?


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no. I graded differently. The extension was, I'm gonna give you this year too. Now if I was not signing, I'm like yo-


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[Assistant] The rest of the day be hard on that intermittent fasting game. You be looking around, you like, can I have a, I just want a granola bar, just give me something.


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[Assistant] Now, I like, listen, I love, everybody loves the regular season, everyone thinks the preseason is a little bit too long, but from a perspective, for some people,


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[Assistant] It is, uh, it's important to some of them it ain't.


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[Assistant] And I think- And zero Super Bowls. I think the preseason matters to certain things like this, like Deshaun Watson, right? You know?


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[Assistant] You need to, people need to see him. No. In some rhythm. No.


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[Assistant] I think he's very important to what they wanna do. I heard Ryan Clark, uh, on the other day.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and he said something that I wholeheartedly agree with. He said...


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[Assistant] People believe that when you got a quarterback like Deshaun Watson and Nick Chubb, that it's one or the other. And he said that's a basketball mentality.


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[Assistant] He's like, you saying that like, you got two guards and one is ball, both of them ball dominate. How many balls are gonna go around so you can score?


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[Assistant] He said it's not, that's not the case with Deshaun Watson and Nick Chuk.


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[Assistant] Then it becomes about situational football. In certain situations, it's up to the coach to figure out what plays he wants to run in those situations in order to maximize the, you know, the success of the team. So if I'm looking at it from this standpoint, I know everybody throws the football, but to me,


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[Assistant] I believe when I watch the Kansas City Chiefs, there's one way that you can beat the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] It's a very slim, it's a very slim margin if you just want to go throw for throw with him. You gotta physically...


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[Assistant] There's always a point in time where Chris Jones or somebody on their defense gets a sack or makes a play because you throw in the football. But I believe that when they put their nickel package out there, the Cleveland Browns have to smile and say,


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[Assistant] We have the advantage. We have the best running back in the game. We got growth graders up front in our guard position. We need to run straight at them to get these dudes out of here. And I think if you get out physical to Chiefs, out physical to Bills, out physical to Dolphins, and punish them with what you got, and then you set up the pass,


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[Assistant] I think the Browns will be exponentially, uh, better offensively. So I think Wyatt Teller is a big part of what they want to do. Hopefully for him, he stays healthy. That's his, that's his MO.


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[Assistant] That puts wear and tear on Conklin, wear and tear on Teller, you see what happened to Harris, uh, Joe Botonio's had a lot of wear and tear, and Will seems to be injured from Jump Street.


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[Assistant] So, you gotta always take into consideration when you do run the ball, your offensive line is in harm's way as well. So, I like Teller. I think if he could get back to what he was, to your point, McNuggets.


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[Assistant] I think the Browns will be one of the most formidable offenses because they now have one of the best offensive lines and defensive lines in the game and that translates because we want to beat you up.


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[Assistant] I'm not so sold on Amari Cooper not being here. Like, if Amari Cooper comes out and he's playing with the best quarterback he's ever played with,


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[Assistant] I mean, because listen, I mean that's, that production is hard to find.


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[Assistant] When I got into sports, they told you you can't talk about politics or you can't talk about certain things and we don't talk about sports. But what people don't realize is that everything that goes on in these organizations is political. It is. This was a political move. When you look at the Cleveland Browns back then, look at the traditional quarterbacks that they had.


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[Assistant] They tried to go with the all-American boy in Colt McCoy. Heck, they tried to go with Brandon Wheaton.


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[Assistant] The savvy 30 year old will draft him. They tried to go with Cote McCoy, the down south good ol' boy. They tried to go every which way. They tried to get Mac Conference guy, Charlie Frye, he's from here.


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[Assistant] They went and got the backup quarterback. Let's get Jeffs Garcia here. They tried every which way they could to get a quarterback and it all failed.


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[Assistant] Just like when we talk about our political system here in the United States. When people get fed up, the pendulum tends to swing. You go from really, really, really, really, really, really, over here liberal, to all way, way, way over here conservative, over to top conservatives.


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[Assistant] So you can see that play out in our political system. People were tired, they felt like they was taking L's, they didn't have, they don't have any pension, the job market sucks, they feel they're overlooked. So they're looking for something, they're looking for somebody that stands for them or to give them a feeling. Not action, but a feeling.


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[Assistant] Johnny Manziel gave you a feeling. That's right. He made you feel like, hey, who cares about the establishment?


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[Assistant] The establishment got us all these L's all these years. We tried the clean cut quarterback, but maybe let's try this guy. And at least he tells us how he feels, and at least he's real about his party and why everybody else is phony about it. And, and he goes out there and he plays with certain exuberance. And he makes a couple plays and he makes you believe it.


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[Assistant] That, that is why they took Johnny Menzel and it rubbed off on the ownership and the owner is looking for any answers swimming and you know what they always say, when you're swimming, the worst thing you can do is try to save somebody who's drowning.


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[Assistant] To be, you gotta think about it like this, to be a quarterback in the NFL.


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[Assistant] And not know any of your playwork. To watch no film work.


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[Assistant] And to not even practice that much and be high or, or drunk 90% of the time, you have to have talent. Like, that's crazy. Like, that's like saying,


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[Assistant] He doesn't even know to play. He's just running around out there. Which is the crazy part about it. Uhm, I remember the first time we played against the Bengals. Oh my god. And that, I mean, they just, uh, it was one of the most, it was, it was disrespectful. Like, he just didn't know where to go with the rock.


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[Assistant] He was his sack, they was doing this little dance on over the top of his face. Uhm, you know, I just think he's a guy who, to me,


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[Assistant] He, he, he had mental issues. Like, clearly. He was, he was diagnosed with, like, being bipolar. And I think a lot of people in the NFL, when you go back and look at it, uhm, there's a lot of people in the NFL that are, that meet that same, fit that same description of


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[Assistant] Hey, I got the most money I ever had. I'm rich. I'm Johnny Manziel. I won in the first round and then he says...


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[Assistant] I walked in the field, it was even more miserable than I was before, which was crazy.


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[Assistant] I look at the parallels very, very similarly, like, along the lines of the pendulum swings.


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[Assistant] When they went back and they drafted Baker Bayfield, it was still some of the same stuff.


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[Assistant] Like, but to a lesser degree. And so you, if you look at the two most polarizing quarterbacks,


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[Assistant] In the city. And people will say they divided the city.


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[Assistant] You tried it the other way. Like, the other way was like, hey, we'll go through the draft, we'll bring some people in, or, and it just never really worked, so. And in fairness, Baker had some success, of course. And he did. Unlike Johnny. And he, and he, he was in his playbook, and he never was out with the alcohol. I mean, yeaah. None of that stuff.


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[Assistant] So you sat through hell. He was supposed to be the savior. And you were like, okay, we finally got it. We good. And then when it progressed and it wasn't, and what ended up costing you was this.


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[Assistant] Like it, but what you gotta understand is when you get to that next level,


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[Assistant] And I watch stuff. He'll tell me about different things and how I'm gonna move with the safety and I'm gonna do this in the quarters. Like you understand that Bernie was calling his own plays. You know how crazy that is. That means he's calling the run plays, the pass plays, he's doing sequencing.


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[Assistant] And even the fact that he did that, but think about it, if you got a quarterback that was doing the equivalent of what Kevin Stefanski is doing behind that big sheet.


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[Assistant] And he still, but he has to go out and actually


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[Assistant] Was, uhm, I don't think it was a local guy who put the initial quote out about being a narrative or something, right? Like, who was that guy? He was like a- The person who put it out wasn't a local guy.


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[Assistant] And you know, Chris Collinsworth was saying in the Hall of Fame game, people were reaching out and saying like,


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[Assistant] You know, he's like, so what are we gonna, what are we gonna say about this? Like, you know, we definitely have to talk about, you know, the elephant in the room before we can even talk about him on the field. And people were confused as hell because they were like,


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[Assistant] He, Deshaun Watson played in one pre-season game, when the allegations were going on, you could have been talking about it. There was a whole season last year where he didn't play, where you could have prefaced it and talked about it. And then he came back and played for six games. In which you could have...


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[Assistant] Isn't that out of you guys' system? It's like you're just overproducing it? And, and what I'm trying to do, what I said, what I did is, I'm setting it up.


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[Assistant] For the guys that, that, that watch the TV that are gonna watch the Browns.


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[Assistant] They're gonna talk about it. Like, you know, it's not really over and done and buried. So what you gotta do is just like expect it.


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[Assistant] And watch the game and be like, oh, here they go again with that. But don't be surprised when they bring it up, because every telecast, they got a new cast of people in there that gonna have to say, we have to say that he was accused of blah, blah, blah. Hopefully that wears down as you win games.


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[Assistant] That is the coldest, that is the coldest thing you've ever said. Bull, you are exact correct. The people who say, I don't want to hear about politics, don't really care about it, it's political. They care about something, they care about saying, you disagree with something that I actually agree with.


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[Assistant] That when somebody said this, that once you become a media member or a writer for so long, you start to feel like


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[Assistant] You're the story. That you, you, you, you, you start to understand I do have some sway. I do have some power. I can, I can write what I want to write. I could do, and, and there's no recourse for that because I have a platform, a very large one, to, to say what I need to say or, or give my opinion. But after a while, it's, when you're in the game for so long,


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[Assistant] I never want to be this way. Like, these guys used to be on Sports Center. Hit between him and Rich Eisen and Keith Obermann and a lot of those dudes. Uh, Kenny Maine. I used to look up to a lot of those guys because I thought they expired isn't what they did. But as you get older and older and older,


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, you know, I mean, this guy's horrible, this guy's trash. I don't want to watch him. And for me...


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[Assistant] It shows just how out of touch with society you are. Because after you get somewhere so long and you make a certain amount of money, you're insulated from


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[Assistant] I don't have to go where people are that I don't want to see. I can use the internet and my television to watch the program and that speak it definitely to me.


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[Assistant] So what happens is when you start, stop, you know, expanding your horizons and learning and being more inclusive, you turn into a person.


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[Assistant] That is very narrow-minded when you're speaking to a very wide group of people.


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[Assistant] And I think Joe Thomas did a really good job in this piece by just saying, look, he could play, he served his time.


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[Assistant] Browns fans is trying to win just like everybody else is. Other people wanted this guy. The Browns are happy to get him. Hey, let's talk about some ball.


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[Assistant] Here's the way, I'm gonna ask you a question and see if you vibe with it.


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[Assistant] John Watson could be the best player in the league, he's not gonna win a champ, he's not gonna win an MVP. Probably not.


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[Assistant] So watch this, so if Earl is saying you can't separate the artist from the artist,


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[Assistant] Well, that just proves they can't, because even when his play on the field is of an MVP caliber, what is stopping him from bowling for him?


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[Assistant] I do believe to what you say, I believe that if you are presented with new information, everybody should have a, uh,


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[Assistant] A out card to say I received new information and I could have space and time to change my mind.


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[Assistant] I think everybody should have that a little bit. For me, when you talk about the national media, I've always had this sort of, uhm,


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[Assistant] Theory. I've always said that the Cleveland Browns really are America's team. And you'd be like, why, why are you talking about that? They talk about the Cowboys. You guys come from other states, right?


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[Assistant] Um, Texas and New York. Really big union states. Well, no, he's from New Jersey originally. But he, that's another big hub, right? So, you know.


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[Assistant] When you talk about the Cleveland Browns, right? Have you ever seen a team who is traditionally


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[Assistant] I mean, it changes. Well, Joe Burrow, I think is, if you ask who's the most likable quarterback in the league, it's Joe Burrow. More than Mahomes?


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[Assistant] Like, they love Jobe. Like, it ain't like, I have not heard one person say one bad thing about Jobe.


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[Assistant] You know, watch, this is, this is, so for the Browns and the Bengals to have an intercity or interstate rivalry with all the, you know, the past and, and, you know, Paul Brown and all the vitriol, Joe Burrow is so likeable that to some people, the Bengals are not a venomous rivalry.


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[Assistant] It's like, when the Browns and Bengals play, say, oh, Browns and Bengals is playing, oh man, this is going to be a good game, see what's going to happen. It's never been like, Joe Burrow came and it was just like, I could watch the Bengals play with no vitriol.


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[Assistant] And it's supposed to be a rivalry, but when it comes to the Ravens and them Steelers, I want them to lose every game, like you said.


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[Assistant] I want them to lose every single game. I don't feel the same way about the Bengals. I just feel like, oh, they got some good players over there. We're going to have to play well. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] And I think that's because of Joe Burrow and his personality. It's just like, you can't be mad at it. She's like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] But what I'm saying is, it's a choice, right? Like that's the great thing about, we talk about the United States all the time. The great thing about it is, you got a choice, right? Everybody has a choice whether they go rock and roll with it, or they're going to turn them back on it. I'll give you an example, Earl. Today I was on Twitter, somebody sent me something.


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[Assistant] And they sent me, um, a video of an interaction between Deshaun Watson and Roger Goodell. When they were hugging? Yeah, they hugged.


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[Assistant] When they're hugging and dapping people up and laughing, see, what happens is, on our level, we don't understand the political nature of the game, and we don't understand that this is, this whole industry is fake. Everything here, like, there's, this is not real life. This is what we, so, but I understand that, like,


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[Assistant] He still got his money. At the end of the day, Roger Goodell still got, and he, Roger Goodell understands, hey,


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[Assistant] I'm trying to keep you in the fold, dawg. We trying to, ay, we trying to keep you in the fold, ay, I want you to be good, I want you to be great, because if you great, that means the Cleveland Browns fan base is excited about it. They're all mercenaries at the end of the day. There's billionaires and millionaires, so that's why, and even Deshaun Watson, ay, no problem, cause guess what?


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[Assistant] Right. Listen, listen, I do blogs for a living. Anthony Walker, I said, oh, Anthony Walker's garbage. Anthony Walker got on that joint and hit me up and said, oh, okay, we gonna see smiley faces. Right. But then guess what? I had to look around when Free Agency came around and they ain't had nobody else. I said, you know what?


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[Assistant] But also, we are also entertainers. That's right. Like a lot of people, we are


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[Assistant] My recourse, when I don't like something, is I go to my blog. I go right, I get on right, I got a platform, I get on there, I create a video just like that. Just like they got a platform and they create what they want to do. At the end of the day, the greatest thing about sports and why I love sports is because I say it all the time.


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[Assistant] Does not matter what your religion is, your race, your color, how much money you got, where you came from. When you get on those white lines, you have all the opportunity in the world to change everybody's opinion. Because what stands the test of time is what happens on that field. We are just guests.


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[Assistant] We are tertiary. We're people that look around and we're onlookers, right? And we are guesting in this game of professional sports.


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[Assistant] But what happens on the field, that's the iconic stuff. And Deshaun Watson has an opportunity to prove me wrong or right, Bull wrong or right, or Dan Patrick wrong or right.


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[Assistant] This is riveting. This is the, to me this is the most interesting I've ever been in a brown season in my life. And a lot of people come up to me and tell me.


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[Assistant] Because of these storylines, what we just talked about for 30 minutes here is not only


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[Assistant] Are some people have mixed feelings in the national media or local media?


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[Assistant] But there's people in the fanbase that have mixed feelings about whether Deshaun Watson is worth it or what is he gonna look like. 100%. And so when you get that and it's on display, they also have mixed feelings about Kevin Stefanski. Some people have mixed feelings about Miles Carradine and how he plays.


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[Assistant] I totally agree. I've never seen, I've never seen the stakes so high, but at the same time can go either way. Like, cause if Safanski does well, now you have to say, oh, he's getting a contract extension and he would be the first coach.


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[Assistant] I don't count Hugh Jackson's extensions. That was corny. That was all smokey mirrors. He'd be the first coach since 1999 to go onto a second contract.


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[Assistant] And it looks like he's moving bricks of cocaine, allegedly. He does look like he's moving a lot of cocaine, yeaah. He looks like he's just, they dropped kilos off to him, and he has a system, just like getting him off the bar.


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[Assistant] Picture my ass crack hanging out. Picture the last one. Go to the last one. Last one. Go ahead. I was going to say garbage man. No, no. Bull, I got bull on, I got bull on three positions, right?


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[Assistant] This is, uh, several cadets, including Oswald on the end in the white t-shirt, myself standing in front of him.


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[Assistant] DeadSec tried to attack that center last month. We failed and they just added more armed guards. So it won't be easy. Be careful.


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[Assistant] And uh, he came and he asked for an application for going to Cuba.


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[Assistant] But I remember that he was traveling with all his papers that, uh,


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[Assistant] Uh, demonstrate that he was, uh, friend of the Cuban revolution. And he showed me.


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[Assistant] He's caught belonging to the, to the fair play for Cuba.


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[Assistant] Well, then I explained and then he got in that moment,


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[Assistant] He couldn't believe what I was saying and he said, but that's impossible. I have to go to Cuba right now because I only have a permission of three or four days in Mexico City. So I have to go.


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[Assistant] And he went to the door that was locked. He opened and said, get out. And if I see you again, if you come again, I want to kick you out.


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[Assistant] The day after the assassination, in the Mexican newspapers, were a photo of a husband. And, uh, I said to my husband,


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[Assistant] I'm sure that this is the man who went to ask for a visa. So I went to the embassy and I looked up the applications and I saw his application and it was the same one.


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[Assistant] My best recollection is they offered to us to listen. They said to us it was Winscot that, uh,


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[Assistant] Now even that, just one not having been destroyed.


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[Assistant] Hey guys, before we get into tonight's game, I just want to remind everybody that for $4.99 a month,


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[Assistant] You can become a member of Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. You get overtime. You get some benefits at the Cleveland, uh, clothing company. And today's overtime is going to be how demoralizing is it that Rosario and Bell had a great outing last night for both of their new two teams. And then without further ado, we can get in to the first game preview tonight for the Hall of Fame game.


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[Assistant] Yeah guys, before we move on, I wanna tease tomorrow's show a little bit. We're gonna be talking about our reactions to the game tonight.


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[Assistant] And you talk about the Hall of Fame, we got a top five for Joe Thomas tomorrow. Burl and I went together and put our heads together, and we're gonna do that for you guys tomorrow, so make sure you're here at 11am.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, I didn't make that the poll question today, but whenever we do do a poll question, it's brought to you by PCC Airfoils, looking for a job with career advancement and great benefits. PCC Airfoils is the leading manufacturer in Northeast Ohio.


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[Assistant] Plus you can get a full benefit package, paid time off, and a signing bonus. You can apply online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. So the poll today that Earl put up


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[Assistant] Uh, 36% said yes, and 64% of our fans said no. So I don't actually think they're on your side here, guys, where they're like, oh yeaah, it's cut dry, we're done.


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[Assistant] So, some comments here. Taylor hasn't made the Bengals better, just benefited from patient front office and great quarterback and wide receiver. People are saying Stefanski can say the same. So, there's a 25 or so comments.


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[Assistant] Oh, it is true. It is a good question. We do have 20 minutes until Aditi. Some people in here are saying Zach Taylor deserves to be in the last.


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[Assistant] We got 32 and 32 next, uh, and today's 32 and 32 is Ethan Pochich and what he's gonna do for the Browns this year. That's who we deemed the, uh, this is number 26, number 25. I lost count.


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[Assistant] So the way we made this list was, I made a list of my guys, Earl made a list of his guys, Mike made a list of his guys, and Mike did some...


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[Assistant] Excel math, it made a final list averaging everybody out. So this is how they all landed.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to see if it's his father, Earl, I can't find it on Wikipedia.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just want to remind everybody that we just hit 25,000 subscribers on YouTube and it's a huge milestone for us. And I just want to thank everyone and tell everyone, keep subscribing, tell your family, tell your friends. We're going to have a lot of Brown's content planned out for today till the end of the season and you don't want to miss any of it. Get the notifications. So guys, we have 10 minutes until Aditi comes on.


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[Assistant] And I didn't have anything planned because I thought our Kevin Stefanski thing was gonna be a little bit longer. But we talked about Jonathan Taylor the other day, not getting his money.


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[Assistant] He's paying 20 million dollars to move an orca across- You can take tag boards, Steve. To move an orca.


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[Assistant] Across the country. But he won't pay his star running back.


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[Assistant] I, so I read the article, he just thinks it's a good idea to do.


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[Assistant] The weeknights where it's called Behind the Glass. And sometimes, who knows, we might talk about orcas and transferring them across or we might talk about sports. It's called Behind the Glass. We love the support that you guys give to us and make sure you subscribe so you get the notifications when we go live to that.


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[Assistant] Jason, apparently you have been dying to talk about this. Well, I wouldn't say I was dying to talk about it. Oh, this is what Earl relayed to me. I didn't say dying.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so we're talking about the work-life balance of NFL players today is the topic today.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeah, no, I mean, I'm, I worked at a job before here where it was very heavily in sales. I was in the marketing department, but I was friends with a lot of the salespeople and they had no work-life balance and the people


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[Assistant] Like they thought that was normal. And I'm a big proponent of it. Like when I go home on the weekends, I watch the games, I do my homework, but I don't answer half the text messages.


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[Assistant] If you wanna sample any of the girls before they open the bidding, you gotta pay a small fee. Premium girls are off limits. Don't wanna lower the value if you get me.


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[Assistant] Hey, you know, I'm having a pretty good day, but I didn't have a Chance of the Rapper song come out today, so probably not doing as good as you.


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[Assistant] But that, yeah, that's what I'm saying and that's why I've always looked at your career and been like, holy shit, like, the potential is so out of hand for you if people really, like, embraced you and accepted you for, like,


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[Assistant] The kind of artist I actually think you are, so that's why I saw that chance one.


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[Assistant] I was like, just so happy for you, I was like a friend, cause I was like, bro, if Chance- Thank you, bro. If Chance is recognizing how dope Cordae is, then it's official. Nobody- we don't need anymore convincing.


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[Assistant] Oh man, that's fire, bro. Yo, so how is Tor like solo? Cause the last time I seen you on Tor, you were with, you were opening for Juice Road. Juice and Mozi, yea.


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[Assistant] Bro, like, that's crazy to me. You ever, you ever see, um, like the old J. Cole tweets, the old, uh, the old Kendrick tweets and stuff, like, like the stuff that they were putting out before they were really popping?


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[Assistant] I'm just excited about seeing your shit go up. In that chant song, I was just like, man, I can't even imagine how many new fans you're gonna get off of that and stuff.


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[Assistant] I like the song. I'm still trying to put it together in my head. What's the sample? It's from another song.


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[Assistant] Woah. That's so fire, cause number one.


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[Assistant] That song, Scarface, My Block, that song for me was like Napster. Cause when Napster came out, that song was super popular and I remember I would download other songs and it would be that song. Damn.


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[Assistant] And then also they said that Scarface is like running for, for Senator or Mayor or, he's got something that he's running for, he's doing something real serious.


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[Assistant] Nah, nah, so much respect, bro. I'm just hyped on how shit is going and I just wanted to see exactly where that song was coming from.


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[Assistant] I need that. That sounds crazy, bro. Yea, let me know when you're in LA. Let's get up, man.


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[Assistant] Hell yea, I appreciate you bro, so much, so much respect for everything you're doing out there, and uh, props on inspiring, you're inspiring a lot of kids to be better than they might be otherwise, I think is a nice way of putting it.


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[Assistant] What kind of a guy was Jack Ruby? Ah, impulsive. He had a quick temper. That's why they called him Sparky. Loved to fight. And if anybody was really out of line, he'd throw them up.


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[Assistant] I visited Jack in prison. The first thing he said, he was smiling at the time, and he looked at me and he said, uh,


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[Assistant] You see what time it is? I think we had too many drinks last night.


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[Assistant] Alright, I went there once, like, when my first, my wife and I were first dating. Her parents used to go to the Outer Banks every year.


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[Assistant] Uh, not a white flag, uh, move. Now, the Guardian may still win the Division because the Division sucks, but clearly this was a sell move.


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[Assistant] I think you and I agree he's overachieving right now. Jay likes him more than we do. I've never been a huge fan. I don't think he's got high. I think this is the best he's ever gonna pitch. And they took advantage of that by getting a highly ranked prospect. We'll see if, we don't know if the guy's ever gonna be any good, but he's highly thought of and could turn out to be a really good move.


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[Assistant] Aaron Savalli, without a doubt, for less, what, since he's come off the injured list, has been the Guardians best pitcher. Yes.


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[Assistant] Well, I think that's definitely a part of it, because the Rays are maybe the only organization that a lot of people think is smarter than the Guardians. And the last time they made a trade with the Rays was Yandide Diaz, and that didn't turn out very well. So we'll get more into that, a lot of time in the first hour on that, but first we gotta get into what happened last night, the Guardians peed down their leg, blow a game,


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[Assistant] Got a little angry in the post game. We gotta talk about this, but first, let's send it to Earl.


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[Assistant] 15 months, we've had 25,000 people have subscribed. A lot of people are watching, are watching us consistently. And when I, for the first, I would say 6 months we were doing this show, guys.


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[Assistant] Most of the time I would run into people and I run into fans all the time, every day. Uh, they would say, miss you on the radio, miss you on the radio, and a lot of people didn't know what I or we were doing.


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[Assistant] Ah, this is cool. Let's roll out. There's a lot of good camaraderie. Uh, it is, the show is very unique. This wasn't the plan originally, to be honest, but, uh,


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[Assistant] The fact that we do two straight hours of content, even when we mention our great sponsors like PCC who we'll get to later and all our other sponsors that have been or are a part of this show, they are


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[Assistant] Uh, and here, we give you two straight hours of content, and if you're a, a, a, a subscri- not a subscriber, a member,


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[Assistant] You get an additional 10, 15, every once in a while, even 20 extra minutes. So we appreciate you all. Even though I yell and scream a lot, I really appreciate the fans, even the ones that hate us or hate me because you're still here every day and you can get mad at me. But, uh, we appreciate you. Earl, back to you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well said, Earl. Thank you. And, uh, I think we bring a ton of diversity, not only in terms of, uh, uh, racially. We obviously, Aditi Kinkabwalla, from a female standpoint, has been a big part of our show and she's coming back with us this week.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay is, is, is gonna be a regular member in the fall as well, but also a diversity of where we've come from, because Jason...


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[Assistant] Had been a writer forever, still is, obviously. G and I come from radio. Jay comes from TV. Mike Polk, who's been part of the show, is comedian. So, and behind the scenes too, in terms of different levels of experience, you know, most of the guys behind the scenes are very young.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's get, again, we're getting to Savalli in a few minutes, but I want to get to Frank Kona last night. So the Guardians, first of all, well, we'll get to Cyndi Gard later in his performance, but the Guardians obviously had a lead early, they pissed it away against the Astros. In the ninth, they loaded the bases with nobody out. The score was 7-2, right? 7-2, I think, with bases loaded with nobody out. Yes, yes.


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[Assistant] In the post-game show, Zach Maisley Athletic, obviously Jason, and I both know, Jason's certainly worked with him a long time, I know Zach very well, love Zach, he's the


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[Assistant] Excellent as one of the best writers, if not the best writer in all of Northeast Ohio. Uh, and he questioned Frank Kona in the post game about not pinch-hitting for Miles Strull. Let's see that interaction.


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[Assistant] All right, listen, first of all, Jason, I want you to jump in, but I thought, I thought Frank Cohen's answer was obnoxious. Uhm, it was a completely reasonable question. Absolutely. Zach was 100% right. Now, if you want to say, okay, Gonzalez is not good at getting on base, it's not, listen. Well, he latched onto the Gonzalez one. Right, not the other two.


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[Assistant] Milestraw, uh, his OP, his uh, on base with the bases loaded. Wanna take a guess? What Milestraw's on base percentage is with the bases loaded.


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[Assistant] Probably less than 200. Not quite that bad, but not, not, 222. I was close. I mean, that is hideous. Yes. Hideous. His off-base percentage, period, is 302. It's the 23rd worst in all of baseball. I mean, it's the worst on the Guardian.


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[Assistant] I think Frank Kona at times has guys that he likes and guys that he doesn't and that negatively affects him.


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[Assistant] It's fair to criticize even a great manager. Yes. We understand that Terry Francona is going to the Hall of Fame, but


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[Assistant] He's made a lot of mistakes, and not only was his reaction ridiculous, it's ridiculous that he almost never, not only that he plays Shaw almost every day, but that he almost never pinch hits for him in those spots.


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[Assistant] I know. There are some people that defend him at all costs and their response will always be, well, he knows more baseball than you do, well then we got nothing to talk about.


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[Assistant] It's bizarre to see the Mets as sellers and the Yankees as maybe standing pack.


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[Assistant] It's weird. Meanwhile, the Angels who were going to be sellers a week ago got aggressive. The Cubs who were going to be sellers aggressive got, you know, not as aggressive as the Angels, but they got a little aggressive here. Uh, so it's weird. Speaking of trades, Aaron Savalli yesterday


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[Assistant] Traded to the Tampa Bay Rays. I don't want to screw this guy's name up. Kyle Manzardo. Couldn't think of his last name. So Kyle, this is the trade. Now.


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[Assistant] He's another lefty. Now, I heard Jonathan Mayo on this morning saying, hey, I think the guy's going to be a guy who can hit 300 and hit 25 home runs. Great. Remember, he's a prospect.


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[Assistant] That's right. No such thing as a guarantee. That's right. According to MLB.com, he's the 37th best prospect in Major League Baseball. There's been plenty of other 37th best prospects that have sucked in the majors. Yes. And there's a chance this guy's gonna be great. Time to sell. The bottom line on this trade is two things. Number one, the Guardians are sellers.


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[Assistant] Or conflate it any other way. Now, does it mean the season's over?


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[Assistant] But they could still win this division. But don't try to pretend like this is not them selling. This guy's not gonna play in the big leagues this year. Correct.


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[Assistant] He was the combination of he was pitching the best baseball of his career. Yep. And the market didn't have a lot of pitchers available. Correct. Plus, he's controllable because you get three postseason runs.


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[Assistant] I, I, I agree with you. I think Aaron Savalli's a four. I think that's what he is. You know, you use him if you have to in the playoffs. He's not a guy you want to rely on in the playoff. He's a perfectly fine pitcher. Obviously at the moment, he's pitching a lot better than that. But if you look at his whole career, I think his career area at this point is like 3-9. You know, he's...


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[Assistant] If, if I would have said to you at the beginning of the season, in, at July 31st, is Aaron Savalli more likely to be traded for a top 50 prospect or designated for assignment? You would have without a doubt said designated for assignment. Yup, yup. Right? Anybody would have. So the fact that you could get now, again, we don't know if this guy's gonna pan out. Right. It's a lottery ticket.


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[Assistant] That's the frustrating part. Right. They, they, like we've been saying this for two years. I feel like this is it.


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[Assistant] You have, if you look at all these top prospects they have.


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[Assistant] Maybe, except for Bo Naylor, have less value today than they did the last two offseason.


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[Assistant] That they've done nothing really to address this power.


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[Assistant] Here's my thing with Naylor. With his body, I don't think he's gonna age well. Probably not, but he could age into a D8.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's not a bad comparison. I mean, it's not a bad comparison.


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[Assistant] The Astros, I'm surprised they've been so quiet. Baltimore, what is Baltimore doing?


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[Assistant] Brandon Hyde was Joe Madden's bench coach when it comes to one of the World Series. Yeaah. He's done a terrific job. He's done an amazing job. Cause if you look at that Orioles team, how many people can name, how many average fans can name a pitcher on the Orioles? You could probably name some hitters. Can you, can an average fan name a single pitcher?


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[Assistant] They did, they got to, they got to, they got to go trade for a pitcher. They should trade for a verlander.


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[Assistant] I like seeing new teams in the mix, but getting, but getting back.


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[Assistant] Right, cause they're only as bad as the division is. As much as we talk about, they're under 500. We could say that, oh, they can't do anything in the playoffs. It's baseball. If you make the playoffs, you never know. This is not the NFL or the NBA.


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[Assistant] The, the sell trades, and now a lot of these trades they've made in the last few years have been, they've done some selling and some buying in the same year. Right. But I want to look at all their sell trades over the last few years and see how many have panned out a few years later.


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[Assistant] It's possible he can still be a mediocre pitcher. That's possible. He was, he's, for the last three years he's been mediocre when he's been healthy. Uh, this year with the Dodgers he's been hideous. I think he's still young enough that he might get back to being, he's never gonna get back to the guy he was early in his career when he first came up to the Mets where he looked like he was gonna be a star. That's done.


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[Assistant] Could he get back to, could he, could he be a guy who pitches to a four ERA? Yea, maybe. He might be okay for the Guardians down the stretch. But he's injury prone, he's not part of the future. I don't really care that much.


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[Assistant] Beiber, McKenzie, Gavin Williams, and Bybee. Now, again, I, I, I know that the Guardians don't have a great chance in the playoffs because they're just not going to hit in the playoffs. Right. At all. That's a pretty darn good rotation for the playoffs if healthy. Now it's a big if. Right. Because Beiber's been terrible and he's been hurt. Right. But Terrible's a little strong. He's been average.


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[Assistant] Right before he got hurt, he was terrible. And McKenzie's not really pitched the entire season. No.


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[Assistant] If that's the case, maybe it's a big if, I don't know, but that's a really good top three.


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[Assistant] You know, maybe by next year Espino's in the mix, right? Probably second half. I think Quantro can get back to being at least a fifth starter.


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[Assistant] So few of them pitched consistently well in their thirties, that it's just not worth it.


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[Assistant] And because they just continuously develop guys, you've traded so many, like you think about the quality of starting pitchers that they've traded in the last five years. From Kluber, to Savali, to Clevinger, to Bauer, I mean, and I'm forgetting. Carrasco. Carrasco.


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[Assistant] And none of them have been good anywhere else. Oh, well Bieber was. Bauer was good for a year. I'm sorry, Bauer was. Bauer was good for a year.


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[Assistant] But I think the guardians are wise to not spend big money. Like, I heard, like I said, Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com was on with Baskin and Phelps. I put those guys on today. Okay. And uhm,


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[Assistant] I think Jeff asked, well, you know, maybe now that Bieber's not doing that well, he's been hurt this year, could the Guardians think about extending him a three years? And I'm like, why would you want to do that? If I'm the Guardians, I want nothing to do with Bieber.


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[Assistant] And I know that's gonna include some young players, but we gotta stop with a young player in every spot.


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[Assistant] You have two outfield spots, shortstop, and I'll say first base, because I'll call Naylor a DH.


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[Assistant] Those are four spots where you ha- yes. But they just rebuilt first base with Manzardo. Agreed, but you don't know who- you don't know if he's any good. However, I get what you're saying, they still must go add two veteran outfielders. You have to.


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[Assistant] Not to say. If you trade Bieber in the off season.


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[Assistant] Then you make the team take, and you take a lesser prospect. I don't give a shit. You gotta get rid of them.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna start looking at who, like, they need to trade a bunch of prospects for a corner outfielder who has at least two years left to control.


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[Assistant] You know, the thing about baseball, unlike football and basketball, it's much...


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[Assistant] It's much harder for the best team to get to the World Series.


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[Assistant] He's never going to have a game where he's useless. Right. Never. Impossible. So doesn't that help baseball? Shohei Otani could play in the playoffs and maybe have a bad start.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying, like, yes, did Tito make mistakes in that World Series? I thought he did. However, that team had zero business with those injuries going to the World Series. Zero. Now, the next year, they should have gone further.


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[Assistant] You look at the all-time great teams in football and you rarely think about a team that didn't win a championship. You had that Patriots team that went undefeated, but they won it, what, the year before or whatever it was. They won a million others. Right. You know, the fact that those Indians teams didn't win a championship, yes, it's certainly painful,


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[Assistant] And hard to believe because they were so good. It's funny. Do we have Jensen?


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[Assistant] I get that right. They don't like it because of what it signals. I get it. I get it. We'll see, you know, in the long term. But real quick before we bring Jensen in, I was...


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[Assistant] I was, I saw that, yeaah, I was in a, one of these stupid Instagram, uh, video spirals. And there was a video of Mariano Rivera, he said, if you had to pick the eight guys behind you on your team, uhm, that, you couldn't pick any of your teammates.


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[Assistant] You gotta pick eight guys in the history of baseball, none that were your teammates.


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[Assistant] And you put them behind you, that's to make your team the best team.


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[Assistant] 3 of the 8 worth those 90s Indians. 3 of the 8! And he can pick from all time!


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[Assistant] Jensen, I don't know if you heard our poll results there, but 58% of the fans don't like the trade. Now we understand that it probably has nothing to do with the prospect, because probably...


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[Assistant] 98% of the people that voted in that poll have never heard of that kid before.


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[Assistant] However, I, I, you know, we get it. I mean, it's, it's a suck. Listen, the Guardians could still win this division. It stinks. They could still possibly win it. But it is a sign that that trade wasn't about trying to win this year. So do you understand the fan frustration? Do you get it? What do you think about that?


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[Assistant] And the Braves have certainly done that with a high degree of success in recent years and that's a big part of the reason why they're probably the best team in baseball right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, this is not 1978 where you could play with a center fielder that can't hit. I don't understand why he plays every day. You get no power. They've got what? 11 home runs from their outfielders total. I understand maybe there's not great options at the moment.


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[Assistant] But even if it's not this year, I think next year, Miles Straw to me can't be an everyday player. Pinch runner, great defensive replacement, fine. I hope next year they move Kwon to center and they get some legitimate corner outfielders. Do you think they should do that? Do you think they will do that?


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[Assistant] You know, Emmanuel Crossey's got a ton of save, but he hasn't been as sharp. He's not been bad, but he's not been nearly as sharp as he was last year. Watching him, what are you seeing, and what is the difference for last year where he was, you know, along with Edwin Diaz, one of the two best coaches in baseball, to being still good, but not as dominant? What are you seeing there?


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[Assistant] You talk about, you think about the mental game and obviously you would know this better than anybody.


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[Assistant] But he, it seems like from an outsider's perspective, he gets in his head too much, and that screws him up. Look at, I mean, Kelly last night, he gets the great at bat where he strikes out Tucker, and then he can't throw the ball over the plate. I mean, like,


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[Assistant] Jensen, last thing. Trade deadline obviously today at 6 o'clock.


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[Assistant] Right? In terms of other teams, we saw the big trade with Max Scherzer.


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[Assistant] We've seen two teams like the Angels and Cubs who we thought were out of it, and maybe, but they've been aggressive here this last week. Maybe Verlinder gets traded. To me, one of the biggest storylines today, and I think the Tigers probably traded a couple of their pitchers,


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[Assistant] I'll tell you, if I, uh, I know we gotta go, I know we gotta go Earl, but if I'm the Orioles, and I know it would take a lot to get him,


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[Assistant] But Mitch Keller is fin- is coming to his own this year. If I'm the Orioles, because they have a thin starting rotation, their bullpen's great. I'd go- it cost a lot. But I'd go get Keller and Bednar. If you had Bednar, Cano, and uh, what's his name? Tyler Wells. No, they're closer. About two steps.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it's East, I couldn't think of his name. If you had those three in the back of the pen and you added a young Mitch Keller who's really good, I know, yeah, they'd have to give up a boatload to get those guys, but I think that'd be huge for, for the Orioles. I don't know, I don't know if it's going to happen, but we'll see. Should be fine. Yeah, that, that, that's a full


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[Assistant] Let's hope the Yankees keep losing. Thanks Jensen, we appreciate it. We'll talk to you again soon. There you go. Did you guys cut Jensen off? How dare you? Damn!


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[Assistant] What happened? Uh, Earl's very excited about some dopey poll


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[Assistant] Err, yesterday, Earl tweets at me, and, and, uh, some, some, uh, it was, I don't know, it was Bucky Brooks or whatever saying, the Browns are right there with the Bengals. Okay.


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[Assistant] You have to predict what's most likely to happen. Not, I'm a fan, so I'm gonna pick the extreme scenario.


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[Assistant] I found the Steelers unlikable because of Ben Roethlisberger. So why can't other people find the Browns unlikable because of Sean Watson?


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[Assistant] Because we said on this show, I don't know how many times I said on this show, that there's probably a gray area in this whole situation, and I specifically said, yeaah, there's probably a couple of them that have taken advantage of the situation.


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[Assistant] I think Deshaun Watson's a creep. If you don't think I would say that to him, I mean yeaah. I'm not saying you, I'm just saying. It would be kind of awkward if I said it to him, no doubt. But if he brought up, if Deshaun Watson walked up to me and said, hey, why'd you call me a creep?


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[Assistant] I believe 23 different women somehow were able to put a conspiracy together and it never came out that they were all plotting together.


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[Assistant] It's, but it's not surprising that a national guy would talk about Deshaun Watson and be like, the guy's a creep. It's just not surprising.


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[Assistant] But, the thing is, and this is what, because for years I was always like, I don't want this guy, he's a bad guy on my team, I don't want him. And eventually I got to a point where I said, I have to be able to separate the person from the player. Right? Like, if you ask me now, would I want my


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[Assistant] That's when you make a trade for a guy with as much smoke as Deshaun Watson, that's part of


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[Assistant] But who's more likely to have an agenda? A Homer fan or a neutral media member?


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[Assistant] And that's right, we're always going to defend our guys. Right. Even if they do the same thing as a guy we've shit on for 10 years. And maybe you don't bash Ben Roethlisberger and that's fine. I have. I've been consistent. If I, if there's, you know, I've bashed, we can go on and on. But Urban Meyer, his assistant, you know,


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[Assistant] Coach, what's that in that scumbag there who beat up his wife? We can go on and on and on. But, but there is a thing. The bottom line of this conversation for me was...


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[Assistant] Just win. Win. The polls. You don't even care about the polls. Are the Browns?


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[Assistant] Unpaper capable of hanging with the best of the AFC. I believe so.


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[Assistant] You just want them to prove it. But they gotta prove it before I'm putting them in that class. And it's the same thing with Watson. Because Watson, not because it's just six game, but because he hasn't played, essentially hasn't played for two years.


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[Assistant] But you know what, like the year the Bengals went to the Super Bowl, their kicker played like a superstar. And last year he wasn't as good. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] But, but I would say he's better than, he's better than Cade York. Oh yea, sure. Yea. But Cade York, I would put him higher in terms of the importance than 20, what do we have Matt? 27? I agree. I would put him like 5. Girl, what is he? 27?


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter. I can't go top 5, Cade York. I can't make myself go that hard, but I can go at least around 10. I'll go 11. Certainly way higher than 27. I think we'd all agree on that.


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[Assistant] Is it the most important guys? Is that what we're ranking? I can't remember.


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[Assistant] And that's why I get so mad when people say, well, it was a close loss. Who gives a shit? Most games are close. This is not college football. Most NFL games are close. Blowouts in the NFL are the...


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[Assistant] The exception, not the rule. You see somebody lose by ten, you be like, hey man, I blew out a little bit. Yea, right. Alright. You know, a blowout in college is fifty points. Yea, yea. A blowout in the NFL is two touchdowns. Yea, two touchdowns and you got smoked.


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[Assistant] Well think about it, like we're all excited about the, about uhm, what's his name, the Browns new special coach. Bubba. Bubba Ventrone. Right? We all love the hire, seems like he's going to be a great hire. What the hell does he know about kicking? Nothing. He didn't know anything about kicking? Nothing. He can't help the kicker or the punter. He can help the rest of the special teams. There should be


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[Assistant] Man, I like when he be like, my mama say, my mama say, my mama say. That whole scene with the professor and the class.


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[Assistant] I like the two really weird looking dudes that sit in the stands and then one guy just like rips on the other guy all the time.


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[Assistant] I had, my son and I watched Uncle Buck. Have you guys seen Uncle Buck? Oh yea, of course. Love that movie. Yea. But, and you don't think about it, but there's a scene where this girl is like, kinda being raped.


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[Assistant] Anyway, the guy, uhm, the guy who plays his uncle, I was just saying, uh, do you watch No Fall Also? Yea, I watch it. The guy who plays his uncle, I can't think of the actor's name, but he was awesome on that show, and I'd never seen him in anything else, and then I was just watching the show the other day,


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[Assistant] And now I can't think of the name. Oh, the new, so they're doing a, they did a remake. So there was a show, Justified, which was a great show. And they brought it back. There's like a sequel called Justified City Primeval. And this guy had a small, that guy had a small role.


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[Assistant] Big shocker, the warden's a scumbag. Denzel's the best. He's good at everything.


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[Assistant] There was only one Denzel movie I've ever seen that I didn't like. His performance was fine, but I thought it was a bad movie. Which one? The Book of Eli.


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[Assistant] And I gotta get back to it, but on the, on the preview, it's, oh, we'll talk about it later. Hey, you know, I gotta go. Ultimately, I'll see you Thursday.


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[Assistant] Gender is a complicated topic these days. And gender reveal parties are just adding fuel to the fire.


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[Assistant] We all love grandma's cookies. But one student in California took it a little too far.