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[Assistant] What Facebook does is obliterate the ability to tell the lie from truth, where what is real, what is fake, is not discernible and not knowable. And the consequences of that for a democratic republic are frightening at best to think about.


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[Assistant] When he goes out and says, this is the biggest crowd size ever.


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[Assistant] What he's saying in essence is what's true is what the leader says is true. The obliteration of the line between truth and the lie is fundamental to grasp


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[Assistant] Because it's so elemental to a functioning democracy. And the degradation of those institutions is a weakening of our system.


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[Assistant] We have a guts and courage crisis in American politics. We have politicians who go to great effort to get elected to go to Washington, not to fight for great principles or causes, but to see who can be the best bootlicker.


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[Assistant] And the alternative that the Prime Minister offers is no deal. In which case, Iran...


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[Assistant] I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim countries. My job is to communicate


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[Assistant] The fact that the United States has a stake in the wellbeing of the Muslim world.


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[Assistant] This history shows us that strong and sustained American engagement can bridge divides and build the capacity that supports progress.


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[Assistant] I first of all want to thank Prime Minister Netanyahu for making this visit.


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[Assistant] It will not be easy. It never has been easy.


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[Assistant] For six months, we have witnessed an extraordinary change taking place in the Middle East and North Africa.


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[Assistant] We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps.


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[Assistant] From the perspective of US interests, it is far better if we can get a diplomatic solution.


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[Assistant] You start seeing these really ugly moments, the rallies, uhm, with, uh,


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[Assistant] You know, I'm automatically attracted to beautiful. I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.


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[Assistant] Comment, check out all my most recent videos. I promise they will not let you down. I've been doing this every day and I want you all to watch them every day. Let's get into this interview.


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[Assistant] Hey, No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and today we got one of the coolest motherfuckers in the world, Wodneck in this bitch. How you doing?


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[Assistant] Pensacola, Florida. Pensacola, holy shit, I used to live on Pensacola for a while.


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[Assistant] I was like 19 and I didn't really know shit so I guess that kinda makes sense.


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[Assistant] Okay, so you just grew up out there, what was your upbringing like?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. That's a weird hood. I didn't spend a lot of time in the hood out there, so I don't really know.


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[Assistant] So, you were in school, how were you in school, what kind of student were you?


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[Assistant] Did you have anybody like putting you on the game or are you just running around figuring shit out for yourself?


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[Assistant] Right, so did you start getting arrested or having trouble with the law early on? Cause that's really how we came to know you is cause you got arrested.


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[Assistant] I'm third and one now. Oh shit, so you've been in the streets and stuff for a while? Do you ever do any real long bids?


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[Assistant] What are your other interests besides running around in the streets?


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[Assistant] She's from Pensacola too? Yea. How does she feel about all the shit that's been happening to you?


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[Assistant] What the fuck? You got the extraterrestrial iPhone there.


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[Assistant] Oh, you just got phoned? Shut up, you didn't have a phone for a while?


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[Assistant] You didn't have a Twitter or Instagram or anything, you weren't even bothering with all that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so you're, you were the kind of person that never interacts with our podcasts or that would never be on here. Cause everybody who comes on here, that's like the main thing that they have in common is that they're all on Instagram or YouTube and trying to make something out of yourself. Like up until this shit happened to you, you were totally on the other side of that.


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[Assistant] But did you also, like, as a person who was in the streets, did you see the social media shit as just a way to get caught up?


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[Assistant] So what'd you get caught up for the time that the mugshot went viral?


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[Assistant] Or is it still an open case? Yeah, it's, it's, uh, yeaah, yeaah, it's still open. The case still open. Imagine trying to explain the last few months of your life to a judge.


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[Assistant] How did you find out about the mugshot going viral?


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[Assistant] Pissed, when did you start to be able to see that this might be an opportunity or that there might be a good thing about this?


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[Assistant] That the life support situation was like a awakening, like maybe your life, it was time for you to have a big change.


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[Assistant] It's so crazy because it's like you got famous for like the most fuck shit ass reason ever. But then when I'm sitting here talking to you, I'm like, this dude is solid as fuck. Like you're like a real ass dude that I actually feel like everybody in the rap game is shit. Like once they actually like meet you, get to know you and shit, like a lot of people are going to fuck with you because you're just a


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[Assistant] So when did you start to like, sort of realize like, oh, this meme that is either just some bullshit or negative, there's actually a positive that you're actually going to be able to make something out of this.


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[Assistant] Were you planning on going hard with social media and everything before?


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[Assistant] There's no big deal? Or is that still not a big deal for you?


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[Assistant] So what's, what's your, so like when you linked up with Patty and Mills and everything, how did that happen and how'd you end up going out there and what'd you guys start doing? Oh.


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[Assistant] What about like, Patty? How'd you, uh, what was your reaction to Patty when you met him?


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[Assistant] Do you feel like you are like the one coming up with the ideas? Like are you typically the one coming up with the ideas of the shit to film or are you just sort of falling in line being like alright I'll do what you guys want?


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[Assistant] Did you ever have any kind of like health issues or is there ever like a moment when you were a kid where they were like, oh, like you got something with your neck or whatever?


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[Assistant] I guess I gotta ask that too. Were you or are you like a drug user? Were you ever that kind of person?


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[Assistant] I like to sleep. I like to sleep, no cat. I like to sleep. Yeah, I can't blame you. Hey, that's basically like drinking a little lean and smoking some weed. That's basically like, God, you don't do drugs. That's just, that's just whatever.


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[Assistant] Unless you're young. Don't kids stay away from drugs. Yea, you gotta stay away from drugs. Yea.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so what have you spent your money on since you started coming up? I notice you got some jewelry, you got the nice guest sweatshirt on.


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[Assistant] You get any checks so far that you've been like, holy shit, I can't believe I just got paid that much to do that.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I ain't gonna talk about it. What do you mostly make money from though, like club appearances or Instagram shout out shit on the story or what?


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[Assistant] I mean, when you got long neck there, it's like you always got kind of like a more funny element to it with you guys together, but if you went and did a song with somebody,


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[Assistant] Do you, uh, do you plan on, like do you have any big things that you're planning on doing or anything? Or are you just taking it day by day?


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[Assistant] What do you think is the biggest like misconception that people have about you?


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[Assistant] Uhm, anything else we should talk about? Are you, are you, are there any jokes that you're sick of?


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[Assistant] Good. Getting in on the wide neck business, man. Hey, I'm impressed. You're definitely a solid fucking dude and I did not expect you to be this cool of a dude. That's kind of the weird thing is that you blew up off of something that was just a photo, so it's like your personality could have ended up being anything.


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[Assistant] Anything. Bananas. Alright. What you mean by anything? I don't know, I mean, it just could have been any type of guy. Cause it's like, you got popping in the first place off of just a random ass photo.


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[Assistant] It's like we had no idea what kind of person you were gonna be and then to meet you and to have you be such a solid dude and to be like a guy who clearly is like not the type of guy who is like getting joked on. No. I'm very impressed.


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[Assistant] I would bet on Wodneck, like if there was a stock market for, for, for rappers.


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[Assistant] Let me put a 10 stack on wide neck right now. Let's see what happens.


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[Assistant] Yeah, wide neck. Hey, it's been an honor to have you in here. I didn't get to shave your head like I did with a long neck, but there's not much there to work with anyway.


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[Assistant] Alright, hey, appreciate everybody who watched this. Nojumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, Soundcloud, iTunes. Shout out my dude, Widenek. All that. Peace.


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[Assistant] That led on to an interest in dying and how we die.


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[Assistant] So, how does neuropsychiatry help us understand people? It's very good, because you get both sides of the picture.


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[Assistant] For example, in one of the hospitals that I was in, I wanted to study people in the intensive care unit.


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[Assistant] You can't. It's far too variable. And, uh,


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[Assistant] And he paddled for three days.


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[Assistant] The phenomenology of them gives us some idea about the nature and structure of consciousness.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it can't explain consciousness. There is only one theory in this.


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[Assistant] I have written a book called The Art of Dying and I wrote it because I asked a question.


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[Assistant] Which if you cross you know you're going to die. So, it's a perfectly valid question to ask. Is this near death experience a


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[Assistant] Occasionally, occasionally, uhm, animals.


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[Assistant] You know there's little bits of you that chats to yourself all the time. That goes. Next, you're always in the moment.


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[Assistant] So, people say all these things that we were finding in the dying are hallucinations. Well, this is terminology, isn't it?


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[Assistant] And, uh, uh, uhm, torturing him and he knew he was in the hellish realm because he could feel the flames of hell burning him. Now, as he got better,


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[Assistant] And they are very self-centered because they're going to live on to eternity. And if you look at our culture,


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[Assistant] Trump is totally disinterested in the gravity of the job he's walking into. Just doesn't care, you know.


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[Assistant] Obama's seeing this meeting as an opportunity, I need to tell him about all these things, you know, how healthcare works in this country, the North Korean threat, what's going on with Iran, and Trump


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[Assistant] Is totally disinterested in any of this. Uhm, didn't even care.


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[Assistant] He expresses frustration. He knows it's a setup. He knows it's a plot to destroy him and people around him.


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[Assistant] I do think that they wanted to have a flurry of activity at the beginning to demonstrate that Trump is what he said he was. He's not going to wait. He's not going to take his time. He knows what to do and he's going to fix everything. He's going to set the world right immediately.


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[Assistant] The speech was to try to reset relations with the Muslim world and send a message that, uh, the United States was not anti-Muslim.


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[Assistant] There was concern that there were enough Israelis hostile to the very notion of a channel with Iran.


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[Assistant] That it wouldn't remain private and it would get blown up politically before we had a chance to explore whether it would work.


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[Assistant] Unbound from convention tradition, even democratic norms, I would say.


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[Assistant] And just fully speaking his mind, uhm, in an unfiltered, uh, and I think to a lot of people unnerving way.


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[Assistant] are fired up, the momentum from last year is carried over and they want some baseball.


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[Assistant] Bullish, if you don't mind me using that term. Uhm, I think on Pleszak and on Savali, right? Like, you're not sure on either guy, and I'm with you on Pleszak, but I think Savali's ready to go.


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[Assistant] Please act as frustrating because sometimes he can look really good. I saw him in spring training and he got knocked around pretty good. And then he had a talk with Tito. Jason told us when he was out in Arizona that Tito went to him and said, look, will you calm down?


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[Assistant] Uh, you never pitch well in spring training. He went out his next effort. I think he threw six innings of one hit ball and looked great. So what's frustrating about Pliszak is, you know, he can be very, very good and then he can be frustratingly bad as he was in his opener in Seattle.


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[Assistant] I just like Savalli's stuff. I have since, since he came up with this club. Uh, I think last year hopefully is going to be more of a speed bump than anything else. If he can pitch like he did in his opening start, it wasn't just, uh, I, I thought he,


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[Assistant] He had command of everything. He worked in and out. He worked all over the strike zone. He threw strikes. He got guy. He was frustrating guys with his change of speeds. And if he can do that this year, you know, I think he's a very, very, very solid.


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[Assistant] Number four starter. And let's face it Bull, I know that we're looking at Pleszak and saying we're not convinced right now and he's going to have to show us more. But if you have, and now this is obviously, you know, hoping that Mackenzie is healthy, but if you have Bieber and Mackenzie at the front of the rotation,


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[Assistant] And then you get down to, to Quantrill at the three and if Savalli can resurrect his 21 season, I think that's a very solid starting four and you can do a lot of damage with that starting four. Still like to have another one you can never have enough.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, even if it was a spot start where he came up, made a start, and went back down. I think what the organization wants to do is see what he has against big league hitters. And the time to do that isn't September, it's May.


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[Assistant] So if you can, you know, kick the tires on him for a patchwork start where he's just trying to bridge to get you to the next guy. And obviously they're going to need some of that with Mackenzie on the, on the shelf for a while.


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[Assistant] I think we'll see him. I'd love to see Williams just again to see what those guys have. And so if they do get a late call up, they're not wide-eyed with their first major league exposure. But I think Tito handles that brilliantly. You know that bull. He brings guys up in May, gives them a little bit of experience. Then when they do have the late season call up in September,


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[Assistant] They're not, I mean we saw that with Will Brennan last year. They're not so awestruck by, you know, their first experience being in the midst of a pennant race or God forbid in a playoff series.


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[Assistant] So I would say just tread water. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to, you know, if you break it up, uh, into, you know, 45 or 50 game stints, you know, try, try, try to be, you know, 28 and 22.


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[Assistant] And then if everybody stays healthy, and that's of course a big if, but if everybody stays healthy, you're ready and primed to go for the August, September last third of the season. But hell, they're off to a five and two start. They open in first place. And I talked to some guys in Arizona and everyone, I don't want to say that there was a sense of urgency because that's overstating it.


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[Assistant] But obviously you want to come out of the gate hot and fast. And I think they've done that. So coming home in first place with a five and two record, I think that keeps a lot of the buzz that we saw in this city last year in October.


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[Assistant] It's easier for them to buy in that they're going to do it again. If they were two and five, there would be a lot of skepticism locally as to whether or not they can repeat what they did last year.


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[Assistant] Well again, it's really early and a week is just too small a sample size to start making any general


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[Assistant] He's had a lot, I think he's, I don't know what his strikeout numbers are. Bull, you may know that. To me, without looking at the numbers, it seems like he's struck out a lot.


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[Assistant] When you're having at-bats that you're ending in strikeout more often than not, uh, that's a little reason to be concerned. Look, he's a new guy. Uhm, as much as players tell you that it's all the same, it's not. Everything's different. His clubhouse is different. His teammates are different. Obviously he hasn't had any home games yet.


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[Assistant] you know, on a scale of 1 the buildings on fire and concerned at all. I'm prob a seven, you know, I wan to see him put a couple together for his confiden this thing going. I'm su


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[Assistant] I know G. Bush, you call yourself the Duke of knee jerk. When it comes to baseball, I can definitely be the Duke of knee jerk. Uhm, sometimes I have to remind myself there's 162 bulls right though. I've always thought that May 1st is the day that you can start looking and making observations, making real observations. Hell, you probably would be hard pressed to find


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[Assistant] Any all-stars last year that didn't have a seven game stretch where they hit a hundred.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he hit 37 home runs, which was his high.


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[Assistant] So you know, I have to fa a little bit and just, th some hope that he returns and you know, in talking tell you that he's very c think he's concerned at al


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[Assistant] You know, who knows, like you said, we might look back at this in June when he's hitting 294 with 11 home runs and laughs. I hope we do. And by the way,


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[Assistant] Um, remember in Seattle, it was very, very cold. In Oakland, it was extremely cold. And so he's gonna see the same thing here, at least for today's game. I think next week it's supposed to warm up nicely.


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[Assistant] Who knows? Maybe he's one of those guys, and there are a lot of them, Bull, as you know, that just warm up as the season gets old and as we get into summer. Some guys love to hit when it's 85 degrees. They don't want to touch a baseball bat when it's 40 degrees.


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[Assistant] You know that because we've been punished for so many years and we've been


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[Assistant] We've been taunted too by this franchise, you know, by getting so close. And I agree with you 100%. I think there are two games that have bigger importance in the month of April than all the other ones. It's your season opener and it's your home opener.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in all likelihood, you'll see the attendance drop off 15, 20,000 for game two tomorrow. Right. Now, you know, I, I think the weather's supposed to be a little nicer tomorrow and it is a Saturday. So, you know, hopefully we'll get a good crowd out. But the thing is, Bull,


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[Assistant] It's, when you have a full house.


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[Assistant] It's important that they put on a good show and that the 33,000 or 35,000 people that walk to their cars when the last out is made have a good feeling about the experience. You know, when you come here and you spend 200 bucks for parking, tickets, concessions, and you leave with a 9-1 loss,


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[Assistant] I don't know, for a lot of families that are scrambling to make ends meet, they're probably less likely to drop another 200 later in the season.


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[Assistant] Everyone says go back to June 4th, 1967 as if that will solve all the problems. Here's the problem. June 4th, 1967 were not lines of peace. Those were lines of war.


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[Assistant] We're seeing Iran racing ahead to produce the fissile material necessary for nuclear weapons. They had, uh, had not only low enriched uranium, but they were starting to pile up more and more bombs worth of low enriched uranium. And we could see that month after month, that number was getting higher and higher.


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[Assistant] My name is Abby Jasmine and you're watching No Jumper.


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[Assistant] Where am I from? I'm from Staten Island, New York. New York City.


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[Assistant] I didn't really do anything. My parents didn't let me go nowhere. I was just really in the house to myself, just...


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[Assistant] Making videos on Vine and shit. And yeaah. I was just by myself. Chillin'. I played some sports growing up, but I was like really bad at them. Uhm, like I played basketball and they had me benched the whole year. So, that was really fun.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's how I got started. I got started through Vine, and uhm,


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[Assistant] My thoughts on Jersey Shore. I love Jersey Shore. I think it's the best thing to ever hit the internet.


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[Assistant] I love Holy D. I think Holy D. is the best. Vinny's fire.


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[Assistant] I like the situation, he's a dickhead, I can't stand him. But free him, cause he in jail, right? I think he's in jail.


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[Assistant] Was I a troublemaker? I used to get my ass beat a lot. I don't know if it's because I was a bad kid or my parents was just frustrated, uhm.


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[Assistant] But I definitely got my fair share of ass weapons. Like, I wasn't supposed to have social media or anything. My parents...


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[Assistant] Found my Twitter, like one of my videos have gone, like went viral like the night before my SATs and they came into my room.


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[Assistant] No, I don't think they have Twitter. I think my parents just found it, like, someone showed it to them and was like, this is Abby's Twitter and they just came into my room.


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[Assistant] Knocked the door down, beat my ass, sent me to school the next day to take my ethics.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I actually did, but I don't really think it mattered because I'm not using it at all.


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[Assistant] What kind of music was I listening to? I listened to a lot of Drake, a lot of...


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[Assistant] Kendrick back then, that's when I wanted to be woke, like now I'm just like an ignorant bitch, but yeaah, I used to listen to a lot of that, a lot of Nicki Minaj growing up, but.


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[Assistant] As far as the transition really goes, I...


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[Assistant] Okay, so, hold on, I'm trying to remember the story. So...


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[Assistant] I started on Vine and then Twitter got video and then I started uploading to Twitter. Twitter numbers went up and then my videos from Twitter started getting uploaded to Instagram so then, uhm,


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[Assistant] Like that's when my Instagram got numbered. It was all like around like the same time. And then after a while my current manager


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[Assistant] Found me on Instagram and just had me sign a deal. I was trying to make music. I was like, let's get it. Let's do it. Let's go. Alright, sign that. Get the bag real quick. Make some music. Now we out here. Trap mom out everywhere. Bump that shit. I'm signed to cinematic music.


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[Assistant] What the fuck is on this thing? Uh, T-Pain's on there. Fucking...


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[Assistant] Lofi's on there. Lovey Gray's on there. Oh yeaah, Lovey Gray. Who?


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[Assistant] Oh, Young and Ace is on there. I totally forgot. Young and Ace and Jada Young and um, Lil Trevo and Baby J. And Lil Sol- who? Lil Soldier. Alright. Oh. Uhm, thank you. Uhm.


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[Assistant] I mean one of them is my boyfriend, so I'm working with him. But uhm, yeaah, like I'm fit to work with everybody. Let me work with every single person. Of course T-Pain.


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[Assistant] I'm kind of there now, like yes, like maybe we could get something done, like.


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[Assistant] Once the money actually started coming out, I was like okay.


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[Assistant] Alright, we can get some done, we can do a little song, but...


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just really had to gain the confidence. Once you believe you can do something, you can actually do it. It's all in your mind. Feel me?


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[Assistant] Just thinking that I'm the best, you gotta think that you're the best. That's how you gain the confidence. Nobody can do that for you, you gotta do it yourself.


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[Assistant] I would describe my music as fire.


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[Assistant] To anybody, that's it. I don't think we need to describe it anymore. It's fire, go listen to it. Trap mom out everywhere. Still, album music, everything, go listen to it. I would recommend for first time listeners,


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[Assistant] Alright, I'ma be biased, but like, all of them, but I guess the top three would be no hook, cause that shit fire. And I'm spittin' real fuckin' shit, real balls. Second one would be... hmmm.


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[Assistant] Why you mad? Because you gotta play that in the car when bitches mad. Bitches mad at you, you just...


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[Assistant] Turn that shit up, drive down the highway, bump in that shit, let these bitches know why you mad. And the third one would be...


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[Assistant] 1090 when you in a grimy type of mood and you like fuck these niggas, fuck these bitches, fuck these everybody, fuck your dogs, fuck your cats, fuck everybody.


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[Assistant] 10.90. I'm grimy. I'm different. I'm in my bag. That's it. All of them. But all of them is fine. You can listen to all of them.


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[Assistant] I freestyle like, time to time, but like, I like to like...


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[Assistant] Sit and kinda write, but at the same time I don't like to write, so it's like a mixture of both. Sometimes I'll write, sometimes I'll just get in the mood, but I don't know. I do both. No, I don't.


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[Assistant] I didn't even know that. I thought, I don't even know, I didn't, I didn't know that. Oh. Did you know that? Oh. Wow, thanks Adam.


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[Assistant] I remember I went on Instagram one day and like I watched his story and my song was just playing in the store and I was like...


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[Assistant] Do you see my shirt? My shirt says watch more porn. You have to watch porn. Porn is natural. Porn is a way of life. If you don't watch porn, you're unhealthy.


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[Assistant] I don't like, I don't like seeing dicks in my porn. I don't know why, it just makes me feel uncomfortable seeing a dick in my porn. But I like dick in real life, so it's, it's a little different. Yo, my mom's gonna kill me. I fuck sweat.


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[Assistant] Molly Brazee's fire, Coy LeRae's fire, Ballie Baby's fire, everybody's fire.


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[Assistant] So I've partaken any drugs. Uhm, I like to smoke weed. I try to stay away from all those prescription drugs. I'll pop an Adderall from time to time when I'm in the studio. But that's just, you know, in the studio. I like to stay focused.


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[Assistant] So this is the stage where all the bitches want to come out the woodwork and I'm letting you know now don't come to me as a woman. I don't want to know, don't tell me anything. I'm good.


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[Assistant] I'll send somebody to beat your ass. Please don't. Alright, cool.


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[Assistant] I feel like men are always just thirsty though. Like men always just want something, so. But, yeaah, I get some crazy DMs, like, he'll be trying to like,


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[Assistant] We're going to SXSW, I'm excited. Uhm, just more videos, more lit shit.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I wanna thank Erin, my manager, she fire and cinematic, you know, my niggas. Uhm, yeaah, that's it. But really, shout out to me.


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[Assistant] This morning, a special hour of Meet the Press, an exclusive network interview with a key player in the Middle East, the Prime Minister.


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[Assistant] You know what I say, you're not G. Bush. I'm not G. Bush. Where's the craziness?


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[Assistant] Well, we appreciate the effort, a lot to talk to, about rather.


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[Assistant] Guardians, three and one. What an incredible start to the year. After, after a really tough season opening loss, they bounced back. Yeah. Fullpen has been unbelievable. We talked about how that's one of the hardest things to carry over success wise. So far, so good. Except for no bumps in the road. Yeah, except for the long time.


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[Assistant] Do you trust this Cavs team against a Knicks team that the Cavs would have home court advantage of, but quite frankly, they've laid eggs against the Knicks all year. I think it's a terrible matchup. We could be looking at one and done for the Cavs. We'll discuss that. Bull's Bet. How'd you do Friday?


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[Assistant] I had watched UConn a lot this year. They're good on defense.


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[Assistant] The finish to the Florida Atlantic San Diego State game was all time great. Whenever the ball, they didn't lead much.


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[Assistant] Whenever the ball is in the air and you see the horn go, that's, to me, that's what college basketball, that is the picture of college basketball. Well, the first thing you think of is the Laitner shot, right? I mean, that's, that's the... Well, the Villanova shot a couple of years ago.


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[Assistant] Well, there is a public class. I mean, there's a private class, but there's also, um, there's also size class, too. For the state playoffs, but not for the state playoffs. Right. Conference. No, conference. You could be in with a powerhouse team. Small schools are.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was the Hollywood ending to his story. It really was. And congrats to San Diego State.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'm giving you credit. Alright, uhm.


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[Assistant] I can't remember another time where the women's game didn't have at least one number one seed. Typically in the women's seed, which is part of the...


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[Assistant] Not this year. Not to the extent that the men, but it was a wild tournament and it was really once Iowa knocked off the behemoth South Carolina.


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[Assistant] It, the game lost a lot of its luster to be perfectly honest. Uhm, well that was the champ, I mean that essentially was the champ. It was, it was, but then LSU stood up. But then it wasn't.


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[Assistant] So, Earl, uhm, a lot going on in this game, including the officiating. Whenever a game is trending for its officiating. That's not good. I didn't even, I was gonna flip over watch the second half. Because I saw so much traction on how the refs ruined the game, I didn't bother.


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[Assistant] Perhaps, but it was in the first, the first two rounds, for every minute of the women's tournament that was viewed, 36 minutes of the men were viewed. Gambling has a lot to do with that.


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[Assistant] Right, but all the games were on, well a lot of the games were on True and TBS. That's true too. So, and ESPN carries all, you know, all of the women games on 1 and 2.


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[Assistant] What else was he doing? Well, you see guys do that all the time. Shoot it. I'm gonna let you shoot that.


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[Assistant] And we will let you win. They knew they were going to be out rebounded two to one. That game plan, by the way, I was stunned that Iowa won that game. I was stunned that they won because to your point, they said, shoot all you want from outside.


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[Assistant] And they also knew that they were not going to get defensive rebounds. So they put five in the paint to help rebound. They did, they tried, but they were still out rebounded I think 45 to 26 or something. It was crazy how much they were out rebounded by. If you look at that stat alone, that's a double digit loss every time.


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[Assistant] Well, you know what, it reminded me of, and then when they, I wasn't tallying it in my head, but it seemed to me that she's been involved in everything. At the end of the game when they did the interview.


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[Assistant] I think it was Tracy Wolfson that did the interview astutely pointed out. She either scored or assisted on every single basket in the fourth quarter. It reminded me of the LeBron James takeover of the Pistons playoff game when it was LeBron against everybody else. I felt bad for her teammates because her teammates really were just standing around watching her. It was incredible. That's how they play though. I know it is.


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[Assistant] First of all, for reference, Keith Obermann once said of women's basketball, he said, I'll never watch it.


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[Assistant] And then the reporter said, what if a championship game broke out in your living room? He said I'd call the police. He has no use for the sport. And I don't really put a lot of stock in what he says anyhow. And first of all, like I thought both players


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[Assistant] Lived up to their reputations. They're ballers and they know it. I've got no problem with that. By the way, we see that in the NBA.


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[Assistant] And I got all of that. But what I don't like is when you're down 8 to 1 and you hit a solo shot, and you flip it and you take 20 seconds. You're probably going to wear one that time.


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[Assistant] But that's not, no, right, right. Don't be toned down. But in a national championship game, quite frankly, I don't think there's anything a player, well I shouldn't say that. There's, I could be offended, but it's gonna take a lot. It's gonna be way more than waving someone off to shoot a three, or in Reese's case, I thought Reese was, from everything that I saw in red,


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[Assistant] I thought that she was well within her bounds to do everything she did. What was interesting to me was I read a pregame story how LSU was offended by that move against South Carolina. That's using anything you can to motivate yourself.


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[Assistant] Of what Twitter is, is far less than we even thought it was, which we thought it was small before. It's even smaller, to the point where the company is valued half what it was when Elon Musk overpaid for it. Was that six months ago? Yeaah, so the thing of it is, understand this.


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[Assistant] 9 out of 10 Americans will not see, send, or read a tweet every single month. Yeaah, that's amazing.


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[Assistant] We obsess about it like it's the whole thing. And especially in sports because it is perfect for watching sports events. Absolutely, absolutely. Because that's the last bastion of live TV. Now, when network television was still big...


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[Assistant] The trending topics would often be the television show that was airing from 10 to 11.


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[Assistant] That was Grey's Anatomy. I remember when we were studying Twitter metrics a lot at ESPN. I never watched a single episode, but I will tell you this, it moved the meter like sporting events because that's the social event to talk about live, that's the social place to go for live events. So the bottom line is anybody


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[Assistant] Is my point. Like, you know, if we see something as trending on Twitter,


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[Assistant] That's about 300,000 if it's the number one trending topic. It's about 300,000 engagements. It's not like, the thing that we get caught up in is like, well everybody was saying, to your point,


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[Assistant] And I've seen this, it doesn't happen very often. But I've actually seen a hitter, a pitcher go like this.


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[Assistant] Right, it is, it's disrespectful but it doesn't matter. Yea, but also, it's also a head game and here's why.


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[Assistant] I guess it was, people were saying, now this might be hyperbole, this is the worst officiated championship game I've ever seen. What was going on with the officials? They just, they just are calling tiki-tak fouls. So both start


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[Assistant] The E.D. guy from Purdue, right? Yeah. That dapper?


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[Assistant] Well, that's the state of men's basketball right now. I'll say this about, uh, women. We, for years,


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[Assistant] Uh, every year there's a massive research project on sports popularity in a pecking order. So in other words, football, when it became the most popular sport in like the late 90s, has not relinquished its spot and it won't.


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[Assistant] Uh, ESPN's internal research does it. But how do they figure it out? What do they use? So it's a massive research project where they go to all 50 states and they, they do market research. Okay. First of all, they want to know amongst die-hard fans. Right. And then casual fans. So it's pretty in-depth. So there's two of us.


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[Assistant] For years we were told soccer's coming. Soccer's coming. I've been hearing that since I was a kid. You know what that reminds me of? You better learn metrics.


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[Assistant] No, I'm good, really I'm good. Now, soccer has grown in popularity. In fact,


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[Assistant] You'll see sometimes this is a popular line that people will say.


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[Assistant] We used to track women's basketball and women's softball because there are really interesting phenomenons when it comes to women's sports.


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[Assistant] They will watch games. Women's softball is wildly popular on ESPN. The college world series is very popular. However.


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[Assistant] It doesn't translate to moving the needle on the popularity of the sport. It's typically watched because it's the sporting event that's on right now. So there's gotta be something on. Oftentimes when it's on, there's nothing else on opposite.


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[Assistant] Women's softball. And it does a good number, relatively speaking. It doesn't come close to doing a number like Major League Baseball, although some of the championship and tournament games do pretty good numbers.


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[Assistant] What was fascinating to us was, we could, we used it for two different reasons. One, the studio division, and one for the remote division. Remote is the production of live events.


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[Assistant] You're trying to figure out what to put on TV, so you want to put on things that people watch.


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[Assistant] People love to watch it live. The second we would talk about it, our minute by minute number would go like this. Every time. Same thing with women's softball and women's basketball.


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[Assistant] So they, people will watch the event live if it's a big event, but they do not want to hear analysis of it. They don't want to hear people talk about it. It is actually repellent.


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[Assistant] Obviously, that comes into play for how we would stack our shows. Don't put that stuff in there, it's death. Fantasy football, by the way, same thing.


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[Assistant] Fantasy football is one of those things that people love. They will tell you they love it. They play it. They're addicted to it. The number of people that will tune in to see specifically fantasy sports programming.


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[Assistant] I don't know, because I haven't seen that data in six years, so it's possible it had. But even when I last saw it, fantasy football was wildly popular. But when we would talk about it in our shows, the numbers would vomit.


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[Assistant] Imagine how boring that would be. Sports are an emotional event.


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[Assistant] And you know what, like, when she did that initially, like, it's just like Josh Naylor. Josh Naylor, when he goes to New York.


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[Assistant] Know the situation. And also, understand this.


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[Assistant] Right? No, I'm just saying Gattis and Quantrill. Gattis wasn't great, but Quantrill got dinged, huh? They both got four runs.


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[Assistant] I do too. Love it. I didn't think I would love it. I thought, well, if it's good for the game, I'm fine, but I think it's going to mess with pitcher's rhythms. Now, we do have to hold our fire for one reason. I do think when we get into the playoffs,


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[Assistant] And we saw this with Karenchak. In the first game. In the first game. Yea, I know where you're going.


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[Assistant] Because in the playoffs, I can just tell you from my experience, when I get into an inning where I'm, where it's a trouble inning, I've got a guy on second, nobody out, second, third, one out, whatever.


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[Assistant] I slow everything down. I'm normally a quick worker. I get it. I look for the sign and I throw. I wouldn't need a 15 second shot clock normally. But when I'm in a spot, I, I


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[Assistant] Go through everything in my mind. Location, pitch selection, and everything slows down.


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[Assistant] I'm afraid that when we get into the most important games of the year, we're not gonna love it so much. We'll see.


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[Assistant] If this works like I think it could, he has a chance to completely rewrite his legacy.


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[Assistant] Oh, I thought there was one thing interesting, was it Gonzalez that stole the base and Quantrill stepped off and threw to second to get him?


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[Assistant] Uhm, so one of the things that was talked about when I was in Arizona with both Willis and with Tito was they were concerned about the cat and mouse game between pitcher and runner.


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[Assistant] And I think that they must have gone through this a lot over the course of, how are we going to play this?


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[Assistant] And I thought Cal Quantro played it absolutely perfectly. He didn't freak out. Right.


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[Assistant] He stepped off, spun, and threw the second.


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[Assistant] If you thought the runner was too far off first, you would automatically throw over to first.


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[Assistant] It's a safer play now. Who were your three stars from the series? And the reason I ask it, you could name six different guys.


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[Assistant] It's filthy. And here's the thing. We talked earlier about they gotta make a trade. You know, they still need another arm. I've said. Starter, not reliever.


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[Assistant] To be determined. Everybody when they're coming up, comes up most, not everybody, most of the guys will break through as a, as a reliever. But a lot of times they need a spot start, they'll call a guy up. His parents didn't make it to the game. I don't know if you guys heard that story. He got called up. His parents said, should we be there? They flew in. I think they got stuck, missed their connection.


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[Assistant] I think they ended up watching his performance from the airport in Seattle, which is heartbreaking.


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[Assistant] But four hitters, four outs, and I'm not saying he's gonna be a long term solution here, but


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[Assistant] The reason that I, I just trust what the Guardians are doing so much.


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[Assistant] When news came out that McKenzie could miss up to eight weeks and you start thinking about where, where does, you know, how do they bridge the gap? Now Gattis was not great.


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[Assistant] But this is a guy who wasn't the first or second or third prospect in their organization.


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[Assistant] No, it doesn't always work out that way, but often times, particularly late in the season when you're in a pennant race, often times aces will match up with ace. They're always matching up on an opening day is the one day of the year where you can guarantee every team's best pitcher is throwing unless there's an injury or something fluky like that. But it's, it's a thing. It's been that way for a lot of years.


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[Assistant] But it's, it's because often times they are facing off against the team's other best pitcher. Now I don't even know if it's the majority of the time, but just the rhythm of the game and the way it starts and the way, you know, four days, five, five days from opening day when Bieber throws again, he'll likely be facing the ace. Now it gets off track once you give him the seed.


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[Assistant] Was it? You're asking the question.


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[Assistant] He does, that's why I'm so odd that he's been, he's been not good behind the plate. I mean, I wouldn't even, you know, I would like to say he's been average, but I think he's been a little average. No, he's been horrible. Six pass balls in four games.


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[Assistant] A very good defensive catcher, knew the staff, well-liked, terrific clubhouse guy. Zenino, I think you're getting a bat.


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[Assistant] That is, you know, from a, from a catcher's standpoint. I think he'll be fine defensively. I do too. I think let's give him some time. Um, it's funny, every pitcher's


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[Assistant] Kwan was great, Kwan was great, Zanino was great. Uhm, Josh Bell was terrible. He's got a bad start. Yeah, Josh Bell's struggling, although I think he's...


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[Assistant] I know, Jose has been, you know what? This scares me. Jose's been really bad against breaking balls.


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[Assistant] And so, maybe teams are just gonna say, we're done feeding this guy fastballs. He kills fastballs. He's just gonna see all off-speed stuff.


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[Assistant] If that's what they're going to do, and that's what Seattle did, and every pitching scouting report is different.


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[Assistant] You can bet the Oakland A's saw what they did to him. If he starts seeing a heavy diet of breaking balls like I expect, and he doesn't get significantly better, it could be a long season for him.


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[Assistant] He's reincarnated, but he's fun to watch. He loves the game. He's got that Lindor smile. Uh, the swing is something to see, man. So, and he does everything well. I think, you know, he doesn't really have holes in his game. Seattle's lucky to have him. He's a 22. I don't think 21. Did you see that? He's 21.


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[Assistant] I did, I did, and Major League Baseball told them not to comment on it.


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[Assistant] He was, uhm. We could probably show the clip. If you want to find that on Twitter. We definitely don't have it logged up.


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[Assistant] Was it after a play? Was that? Was it after a play? Uh, it was after a game, I think. It was after the game. Uhm, you can, if you want, you can read The Superfan.


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[Assistant] In the super chat. I'll see if I can find the clip. We have a super chat. If we can find the clip, we can show it. Uhm, yeaah, I don't think it's gonna end well. There's definitely gonna be, I think there's a suspension in order for it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, did you see it? I'm watching it right now. Yeah. Send that to, send that to Anthony. We could throw it in tag boards so everybody that hasn't seen it can watch it. What was your question, Earl?


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[Assistant] Well, like I said, I want to see meaningful baseball with these same rules. Why would anybody have a problem with the rules? The game is moving faster with more energy.


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[Assistant] The fan that said, I don't know that going to games is going to be as fun because bathroom breaks, you're going to miss a lot of action now.


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[Assistant] And if the games are shorter, the last thing you want to do is if the game is three and a half hours and you go to the bathroom and you miss three, three at bats, who cares? But if you have to go to the bathroom and you miss, you know, you could miss a full inning. If you go to the bathroom in a football game or a basketball game, you're going to miss a ton of action too.


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[Assistant] Wait a minute. Earl's point is, and I do understand what you're saying, and so just hear it out. It's not my criticism, but I have heard other people say this.


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[Assistant] Uh, and, and my son said this and I was really surprised by it cause he's, you know, your age.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but he stopped watching baseball because it's the same reason that all young people stop watching it. It's too slow. But I wonder, uhm,


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[Assistant] And we'll find out as the season goes on what impact this is having on attendance. Way too early to judge yet. But I'm curious to know once we get a sizable number of games as a sample size.


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[Assistant] What the average fans are saying when they're leaving the stadium after a two hour, three minute game.


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[Assistant] Right, and like in LA where it's a notoriously late arriving crowd, there are fans still walking into Dodger Stadium in the fourth inning, which I never understood.


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[Assistant] Voices get amplified. Who is complaining? I wanna know, Earl, who is complaining? Tell me who's complaining. Well, I can tell you what, now, I don't know the name of the author that wrote the piece, but he was, his whole bet was, he went to a game, uh, a game Saturday, I think it might have been in San Francisco or, uh, no. He died for the Yankees.


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[Assistant] I can't remember now the town, but, but he talked to fans and the games were much quicker. And he said that I was surprised. I thought it would be universal. Everybody loved the in and out. There were a lot of fans that said, well, I appreciate a day at the ballpark. And now it's like,


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[Assistant] A blink at the ballpark. I think the vast majority...


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[Assistant] I do too, but I am in the playoffs, the one thing that uhm, so Tito put,


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[Assistant] Tito decided when you fall off the horse, the best thing to do is to get back on. And when Karen Cech came into pitch,


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[Assistant] Throw them when it's 9-4. Throw them out there. Who cares? Who cares? Yeah, they used Klase. Now Karatchek threw a lot of pitches tonight before, so he was off the table.


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[Assistant] But I just said, okay, how's he gonna use Karen Shack? He's done for the series. Wait until you get to Oakland. There will be no crowd. Right. Literally. And that will take the pressure down. The last thing in the world.


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[Assistant] Well, it's gonna be better for him long term if he can pitch in this stadium and overcome it. But what we saw in his two appearances, and this is what's gonna happen in every playoff game.


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[Assistant] The entire stadium is a chorus of five, four, three. Love it. We've never seen that in the sport. Imagine in golf, if guys were standing over their putt, the crowd was counting down and chanting.


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[Assistant] Now, you can't do that, however, I'll say this, to your point, Bull, when I first saw the clip, I said, oh, this is just a bad job on security. Terrible. This fan was doing something, like, can we talk about, like, athletes and the, you know, all that, the smack talk?


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[Assistant] In, in a fashion where it was clearly personal and you saw he was leaning over the rail.


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[Assistant] And he was sticking his face out there. Some of these guys are goading players. They want players.


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[Assistant] Like, if a guy's leaning over and he's saying something in your face about your wife,


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[Assistant] Or about your child. We're all human. I get it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a lot of, it's exciting. A lot of racing going on.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, so, we gotta talk calves. By the way, real quick before we talk calves.


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[Assistant] Friday, uhm, is leaving such a bitter taste in my mouth. It's like last night didn't even happen. Uhm, I did like the fact that in the fourth quarter when last night the cast played great defense, they came back and won. They were down most of the game until the fourth quarter. I'm not gonna lie.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this. Confidence level. Where are you? JB? I think Tibbs is one of the best. Tibbs is a good playoff coach. I think he's a great coach.


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[Assistant] Particularly when it comes to close and late designing sets for one possession. I think he's, I think he's above average.


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[Assistant] It was super, super close for me. In fact, I have said all along, my fear is that this team is going to be one and done, and if that happens, this season was not a success. Yes. By no measure was this, is this going to be a success if we get


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[Assistant] You know, God forbid, you know, you lose 4-1. I'm not, I'm not predicting that. I think it could go 7. It could go the distance, but I'm not sure that the Cavs can pull this out. After watching what I saw on Friday, I think it's a bad matchup.


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[Assistant] They have the tie breaker. So they'd have to beat Philly by a game. And they'd have to win all three, Philly have to lose all three. I guess technically they might still be. No, I don't even know Philly's got to have


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's an odd number of games and Philly is play, I think. Philly has four games left though. Cause you can't end half a game behind somebody. No, I know you can't.


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[Assistant] So the Cavs have how many games left? Three. Yeah. So the Cavs can't do it. They're, they're two and a half back.


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[Assistant] So the Cavs would have to win their last three, the Sixers would have to lose their last four. Yeah, that ain't going to happen. So what sucks is the Cavs lost against the Knicks that just shouldn't have happened.


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[Assistant] Last week, they won a game, they were losing big, they came back and ended up winning.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that one felt to me like the death knell. I was like yeaah, it's probably over now.


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[Assistant] Nick's Nets season series, I would imagine that the Nets might have that because of the games that they had when they were full strength with Durant and Irving.


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[Assistant] I don't have a ton of confidence, uh, against the big three, but if I have to, if I had to see one, I think the numbers tell us we'd like to see Boston.


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[Assistant] Just because we've won three of four, even though they were all in overtime.


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[Assistant] Did you want to set up the Tyree Kill? We're going to turn the page to the Browns now. You wanted to set up one of the other ones. Was it the Browns logo? No, I'm going to do the Browns logo. Okay, alright. I couldn't remember if it was that one or Tyree Kill. Did you guys see what Tyree Kill told a, I guess it was an autographed guy.


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[Assistant] He made a comment to a bronze fan at an autograph show. Oh, we do have it. Okay, we can roll it then, Steve, and let everybody decide. So we have the video? We have the video and the autograph.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what he basically was telling the Browns fan, because he saw he was wearing a Deshaun Watson jersey, is that, hey I wanted to go to Cleveland, they should have paid me. Uhm, that's the exact quote. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.


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[Assistant] What you want when a quarterback has the deep ball is his strength. Because oftentimes those breakdowns aren't deep balls. Oftentimes the receivers running back to the line of scrimmage on breakdowns. But when you think about a quarterback that's an elite quarterback on deep balls, which Watson clearly is, you want two things. A guy that can separate and a guy that's going to win 50-50 balls. And I don't know that


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[Assistant] One of the things that's standing out to me about Andrew Berry is figuring out what kind of player he likes. Uhm, it's obvious to me, and I know the Mari Cooper thing notwithstanding because that was a different deal altogether. The deal was there to be made. You're not going to not make that deal because it took so little to get him.


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[Assistant] But one of the things that I feel like Andrew Barry is infatuated with is speed at the receiver position.


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[Assistant] I think that's, I think his inclination is to go after the fast guy.


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[Assistant] He is, but it was an, it was, it's a guy that he went out and felt strongly enough to go get. Yes. There are other guys you could feel strongly about and say I'm gonna go get these guys.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I don't know. The last two to bring in these wide receivers. There were other guys that were available. Like I thought, you know, Hunter Renfro could have been had, I think if the, if the, if the deal was right.


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[Assistant] And instead, the guys that were brought in, and I'm not, I think Moore's gonna be fine. I do. I think he's gonna be better with the Browns than he was in New York. But I think Goodwin is a guy that clearly upgrades your speed as a unit. If he ends up making this team, I don't think Schwartz will. I think it's one of the two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would like, I still would like to see Hunter Renfro on this offense. I would like to see that.


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[Assistant] Pretty much. I think so, yeaah. I think now, I think now, you know, again, we, we talked about the whack-a-mole scenario that he was faced this offseason.


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[Assistant] He's knocked the defensive line moles down for now. Let's see, let's see how this group plays. I also think he's addressed the wide receiver core.


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[Assistant] You know, and I don't know how much impact a rookie linebacker can have, particularly that's gonna come that late in the draft and with this particular linebacking, uh, class. So I don't know how much inroad you're gonna make during the draft on that, but that's clearly the next area that he has to focus on. He hasn't done enough work in, in linebacking court.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but that's to get draft collateral. So now that they have that capital and you don't have the need roster wise, your roster is pretty much full. You might have three to four spots. So instead of taking a wild goose chase on six or seven,


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[Assistant] Package them up, go up higher in the draft, get the guy that you think can make the difference at linebacking. Cause I still think that right now that's our glaring issue. Yea, on paper that's the biggest.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's nothing. There's really no standout. I don't, I'm not even sure you have any.


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[Assistant] That's likely you are to hit. I mean that's just the way it is. And they should find dance partners because there are teams that have a lot of needs. They need the picks. So hopefully they can pack some of those later ones together.


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[Assistant] By all, I haven't read extensively on this, but everything I've read tends, next year's draft class overall seems to be better. Scouts are more excited about next year than this year. Not at all positions, but overall talent.


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[Assistant] The general consensus is next year's draft is better. So I would wanna, plus I just, I'm not a fan of trading away all your high capital. Like we don't have a first this year. We don't have a first next year. We do still have next year's second. That's the highest we're gonna pick in the next two drafts. I hope they hold on to that one because at some point you're gonna need that stud coming out of school.


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[Assistant] Superstar quarterback. Kelsey is an elite player. They have some elite linemen. They have some other elite players. But when you have the number of rookies starting that they do, look at what that does to your payroll flexibility.


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[Assistant] And I think your point is Garrett's getting up there.


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[Assistant] Shub is getting up there. You know, these guys, if they're not at the peak of their prime right now, they're really close. Yeah. Age-wise.


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[Assistant] Did you guys see the workout videos of Derrick Henry? I don't think I've seen a workout. There were eight.


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[Assistant] Holy shit, I'm tired just watching that. That guy's, he's a horse. And now you know why he gets stronger in the game in the fourth quarter. And Nick Chubb's another guy. I know that they don't like to use them more than 17 carries, but Chubb's a guy that's impressive in the weight room too. I'd like to see what he could do with six or seven carries in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Injuries plays a huge part. You can't predict it. Uhm, you can do certain things to prevent them.


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[Assistant] And when I see Derek Henry doing the things that he's doing, the lateral pulls that he was doing, I'm like, that's, that's strengthening everything in your core, your knees down.


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[Assistant] So there's things that you can do and Derrick Henry's clearly doing it. We know that Nick Chubb is a freak in the weight room and spends a lot of time there. It's guys like that that are, you know, here's what, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Athlete once told me, oh no, that's just par for the course. That's called changing the oil every 3,000 miles. I thought that was funny. It's preventative maintenance. It's getting in there and doing the work.


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[Assistant] You just don't know where the peak is. Where's the prime years? I think they're in it, but I think, you know, I don't know that they're closer to the end of those prime years than to the beginning, but statistics tell us that to expect this kind of performance four years from now from both guys, it would be defying the odds. And I hope we're all wrong. I hope we're all wrong.


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[Assistant] Okay, so this is a hot topic. I hadn't thought of this. I don't know where you came up with this, but I'm gonna let you set it up because when you sent it, I looked at it like, wait, what? Is there a push to do this?


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[Assistant] Okay, before we answer, I know that you're posing the question, what's your answer?


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[Assistant] Where do they rank? I wonder where the Browns rank in merchandise sales. Probably varies year to year. I would guess it would be real low. Oh yeaah. Just because they're not a winner. I have no idea. And the colors are ugly. Yeaah, now the Raiders have very little to lean on recently, but they've got


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[Assistant] They've got a logo that's badass. The black and silver scheme is badass.


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[Assistant] Black and white's hot though. It's a cool logo and...


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[Assistant] And I say, well, what does that have to do with being good? Well, apparently it has everything to do with being good because you guys don't have a winning identity. In my stand up, I've made fun of the fact that, like, the brown's a brown, yeaah.


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[Assistant] I'm wearing a Guardian sweatshirt. Right. I was not in favor of changing the team name. I thought that why would you wash all that history around? You know, I got the answer by the way. What is it?


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[Assistant] It's, it's really hard. I talked about LeBron's funny rant one time about the color scheme. Right.


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[Assistant] And he was, he was half kidding, but I don't think, you know, he wanted to upset Browns fans. But he was like, you ever, you ever, do you have brown and orange in your closet?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but it's because it's Cleveland Browns merchandise. He said, he goes, I don't know of anybody that's not a Browns fan that has brown and orange in their wardrobe. And would you ever pair the two together? Like has anyone ever


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[Assistant] Again, it's your identity, it's your tie to the team is the history. That's it. I mean, if we were, imagine if we had to pick a new team every year.


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[Assistant] That history means more to us the older we get. That's why the younger fans are like, who gives a rat's ass? I've been a fan five years, I don't care.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you need to get it right. And I'm not sure, by the way, I'm not sure the Guardians was the best choice. Because 95% of people outside of Cleveland and at least half the people inside Cleveland said, what the hell's a Guardian?


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[Assistant] Oh, the red skin, not the red skin, but the fucking ears. The reds is a long time, but that was short for red stockings. Oh, I didn't know that. White socks. But like the brown, I'm sure they were like, and then there's the Cleveland Browns.


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[Assistant] Half of them say, let's be nice to them. Come on, they're our guests. And the other half would be, you know, we gotta destroy them.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Yeaah, we're a divided group. Yeaah. We are a divided group.


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[Assistant] Okay, so on that vein, cause I think you're right. You got one chance.


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[Assistant] A Steelers, a friend of mine who's a Steelers fan.


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[Assistant] No, he is. We disagree on football teams of choice, but he, we had this conversation a couple of years ago and he said, you know, we talked about it. He always mocks, you know, he's like, and he's also a Penn State fan. So when he would say, you guys suck, you don't even, you know, your helmet, you don't know, you don't have a logo.


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[Assistant] You know, I said, well, your helmet has on it exactly what our helmet has on it. And he said, yeah, but at least we know what we are. We're the Nittany Lions. And then, so we've had this long running argument, but then after like two months of not talking about it, he said, I've got it. I figured it out. I'm like, what? I finally found out your logo.


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[Assistant] And he sent me the shit emoji. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, very funny. I thought that's what both.


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[Assistant] That's it. And you know what? I think it's a great adver- It stands out! I always remember it. You see it, and you remember it. And that's the whole idea.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you there's one difference, okay, in my mind. And I'm not supporting that. I'm not a fan of that. But I do think if I go to a game that's two hours and ten minutes, but I'm the exception, they're not changing this rule for me. I was fine with it at three hours.


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[Assistant] Well, you're talking about a guy bull that when they washed out double headers, I was hot about that. My dad only used to take us to double headers. That's how much you would say for 18 innings. All 18 innings. And hope the second game went to extra innings. That's how I am.


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[Assistant] I'll argue that it's different, that it's not. Now, and again, this is nuance, and the average fan doesn't care about this. That's why I'm saying these rules changes weren't made for me.


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[Assistant] They were made to get people like Mike to go to more games.


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[Assistant] The pitching changes that were happening. You're like, I want to go lefty righty. I want to, I, I, there's that rules.


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[Assistant] I don't love that rule. I'm talking about all the rules changes in general. As for the clock.


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[Assistant] I, I am reserving judgment. I love that games are quicker. I do, because I think that's going to benefit the sport. But in the playoffs,


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[Assistant] Every pitch is magnified and it is so important. Cause in 162, let's face it, no single pitch is that big. But in the playoffs?


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[Assistant] Oftentimes, the 7th, 8th, and 9th in every pitch is a contestant pitch. Yeaah. Means the game can swing on that pitch. And sometimes,


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[Assistant] I understand that working slowly is going to bring about better results for some. When you put a shot clock to speed it up, what happens when you do your best work?


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[Assistant] The teachers would tell me this in school all the time because I always rush through everything. I don't need your fastest work. I need your best work. And I think that Karen Cech is a guy, for example, I don't want to see a playoff game decided because a pitcher is running on a treadmill he can't keep up.


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[Assistant] That's it. You have the whole season to adjust to it. That's all well and good until the best pitcher in baseball can't do it.


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[Assistant] There's strategy to throwing over three times in an at bat.


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[Assistant] Because you can't keep runners on. That was, and by the way, that's what, uh, Carl and Tito said the same thing.


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[Assistant] Your, your, the dynamic between baserunner and pitcher has changed forever. But this doesn't mean it's less baseball, it just means the dynamics change. It does mean there's less baseball. I can't throw over there if I want to every time I want to throw over there. That's less baseball.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's a website that's the only way they can do business, so I don't know. Yeah, I'm just, what's the point of them? Just go to the spot. I'm with Bull and I hate to be critical, but you've been known to hit the wrong keystroke a time or two.


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[Assistant] They told us about 48 hours before they started the campaign.


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[Assistant] Two hours yesterday because it was, uh, ratings day at Little League for the new kids. Oh, nice. Oh, so you rate the players? Yeaah, well this year, last year I was a first time coach. Yeaah. So I was the guy hitting ground balls to the kids. Yeaah. This year I was an official raider.


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[Assistant] Already have ratings based on the end. So this was mostly third graders that are coming into the league. But there were some older kids that hadn't played.


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[Assistant] Let's do it. I won on Friday, Euroleague basketball.


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[Assistant] And my podcast, The Bull in Cleveland with Adam The Bull, will be out within the next hour or two. I talked a lot about Cavs clinching their first playoff spot without LeBron in 25 years. The Browns, a couple of minor free agents. Did I say the Browns clinching a playoff spot?


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[Assistant] Okay, the Browns, uh, signing a couple of, you know, small free agents this weekend and the potential injury to Tristan McKenzie that certainly has me nervous. We'll talk about that later. Yes, but here's the bet today. We're going, uh, under 234 points tonight in the Bucks-Bistons game.


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[Assistant] The Pistons have gone under in six games in a row.


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[Assistant] Eventually, like, they're not going to overuse Yannis in a game against the Pistons. Like, I can see him not even playing tonight, potentially, being a healthy scratch, right? So, but even if he does play, they'll get a big lead and then they'll ref guys at the end.


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[Assistant] That's why all these Pistons games are going under because they're not scoring and their other teams are up big and they sit there starving. So under 234 bucks Pistons.


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[Assistant] Uh, well it's a funny story, it's a little gross at the end, but I'm gonna tell it anyway.


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[Assistant] We're in Boston, right? We're staying in a hotel. We go visit my friend, her good friend Gail, who I'm friends with now too.


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[Assistant] Right? And, and, uh, my wife had no clue I was gonna ask her.


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[Assistant] The week before, I had said to the hotel concierge, I said, I want you to set up the room. Really nice, all this stuff.


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[Assistant] So we're, we're at my friend, at her friend Gail's house. I show Gail the ring.


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[Assistant] She's all excited. We drive, we're halfway back to the hotel. I know I'm going to ask her as soon as we get back to the hotel.


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[Assistant] The plan was she walks into the hotel room, sees all the flowers. By the time she turns back to me, I'm on the, on the one knee. Oh, beautiful. Okay. It's like a movie scene. Yes, except halfway back to the hotel, I'm so nervous, even though I knew she'd say yes, but I was still nervous. Sure, it's a big day. My stomach is a mess.


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[Assistant] We had to stop at a Dunkin' Donuts. No you didn't. To use the bathroom. You got busy in a Dunkin' Donuts bathroom. In a Dunkin' Donuts bathroom. So, okay, alright, but then I pull it together, we drive back home.


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[Assistant] But I don't think in any way, in a way that's an insult to you.


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[Assistant] Three games, one with Atlanta, two with Orlando. All winnable.


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[Assistant] Yeah, in Orlando. How should they approach these last six games? You know, listen, I mean, within re, I think they should play hard and with, you know, within reason, you don't want to go like over the top with minutes. Don't play it like a playoff game. Yeah, if a guy's banged up, you don't want, but within reason, I think you want to keep winning. I don't, I mean, for this team, it feels like,


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[Assistant] I'm not a big momentum guy in general, but I do feel like this team, I think you want to stay hot going into the playoffs. And by, by some chance, if you can get to the three seed,


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[Assistant] Well, I think that would be good because, although, I guess it might not be good because you could end up playing the Heat instead of the Knicks. You could. That would kind of be a negative. Yea, you could. Maybe I want to be the three seed.


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[Assistant] If you think about it, like in theory in the next round, I think they would have, I think, I know maybe it sounds crazy because everyone thinks they're going to win the NBA title, but I actually think they'd have a better chance of beating Boston in the second round than they would in the walk.


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[Assistant] And, and so I'd rather play. Obviously it's not likely to be either of those teams.


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[Assistant] Because, you know, the Cavs have struggled with the Joel Embiids and the, like the team that has the big guy who's the star. Yeaah. And the Celtics don't have that, so. They have a bunch of them, but they're not as big as Giannis. Yeaah, they're not these big, huge, massive guys. Yeaah, you're right.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, we talked about, so if the Cavs win out, they have 54 wins. Not unreasonable, because the best team they're playing the rest of the season is the Knicks, and that game is in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] So it's not unreasonable to think, especially the way they're playing right now and who they're playing. That'd be a big game if for no other reason to set a tone for the player. Sure. So let's say they went out in theory. Possible. To get the three seed, Philly would have to go four and four or worse if the Cavs went out. Philly's last eight games at Denver.


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[Assistant] Dallas at home, Toronto at home. Wow.


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[Assistant] At Milwaukee, Boston at home, Miami at home, at Atlanta, at Brooklyn. They have a much tougher schedule.


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[Assistant] Right, so it's re, it's possible they could go four and four. So I, I think if the Cavs went out, there's a chance to end up the threes. Now, winning out is not easy even though you're not playing very good teams. It's a little hard to win. If that happens, I hope Miami catches the Knicks for the four.


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[Assistant] Yeah, sure. Then go for it. Why not? And, and, you know, some of these games you'd think the Cavs could blow these teams out, so maybe you're, maybe these, the best players are only playing 25, 28 minutes anyway. You're right. So you had the best of both worlds. Build these big leads and let them sit the fourth quarter. Win and rest. Right, and I agree with what G said, like, if I'm Boston, I'm Milwaukee, like, I don't care. If I lose a few games at the end of the year, who cares? Right. I know how to switch to, do the light switch when the playoffs start. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You know, road map to play this. Especially for like, and like, you know, maybe, maybe you say, well, this game, Gary's girl was the first guy out for the day. And this game, Donovan Mitchell, we're getting them out as soon as we possibly can and getting everybody as much rest as possible while still keeping the foot on the gas to play well down the stretch.


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[Assistant] Real quick before we switch to Lamar, one last thing on the Cavs. It's been 25 years since they've gone to the playoffs without LeBron. It's been 30 years. It was 30 years ago that the Cavs last won 50 games without LeBron. Wow. And it was 30, also that same year, 92-93, that they last won a playoff series without LeBron.


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[Assistant] Players have not been able to push around the teams like they do in the NBA. In general.


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[Assistant] No. In this case- I always think it lay beyond Bell. Right.


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[Assistant] The difference is Lamar's a quarterback, Le'Veon Bell is a running back. True. And ultimately, I think if Lamar Jackson really refused to play and held out, that they would trade him eventually.


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[Assistant] Sure. Uhm, if the greatness hasn't been consistent the last couple of years, he's had injuries, those are some negatives, but there's been greatness there, and there are certainly enough teams that in the right circumstances.


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[Assistant] Well, and that's the tricky thing here. Like, ultimately, I want to say, my first thought was, well, ultimately someone will pay him a ton of money, maybe guarantee it all, because I'm desperate for a quarterback.


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[Assistant] You know, when Lamar first got in this situation, a lot of people were screaming collusion, collusion, collusion.


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[Assistant] And my first reaction was, well nothing's happened yet, let's give it some time.


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[Assistant] And I, we still need more time to see how it plays out. However, I do think...


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[Assistant] It's not crazy to think that the league has gotten together and said,


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[Assistant] The Deshaun Watson contract put us all in a tricky spot.


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[Assistant] And nobody's gonna, nobody's gonna, and that we may work together not to find this guy.


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[Assistant] To see what happens this offseason with Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert.


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[Assistant] With, with Herbert, who personally I'd rather have than Lamar. However, he hasn't done anything. He's never won a playoff game. And Burrow's more the prototypical pro-style NFL quarterback. Exactly. If Burrow gets all guaranteed, then... All bets are off. Then all bets are off.


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[Assistant] Then Lamar loses his leverage, I think, because Lamar could say, well, Deshaun got it, so I should. But if Burrow doesn't, after Murray didn't,


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[Assistant] Do you think Burrow will do it? I do expect them to, and I do expect him to sign. I don't know how much of it's going to, you know, I can't imagine the Bengals are going to want to give even Joe Burrow a hundred percent fully, I mean, if there was one quarterback you think would be comfortable giving a full guarantee at this point outside of Holmes, it would be Burrow. If you took away his former


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[Assistant] But I'm saying, like if you had to give a guaranteed contract to anybody, it would be Mahomes 1 and then it would probably be Burrow 2. And even Burrow because he's younger. Right. Not much though. Not much younger than Mahomes.


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[Assistant] How old is Lamar? 26? 27? He's young. They're all young. I think he's younger than that.


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[Assistant] But I think he's, but at his age, you'd do it because, yeaah, I don't think Lamar Jackson's playing at a high level at 35, but he should still play at a high level in his late, in his late 20s.


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[Assistant] I didn't think it was much of a deal. I didn't think the vacation Instagram was a big deal. And I don't think the working out Instagram is a big deal. We'll find out this season how much work.


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[Assistant] They have a team that if they had a good quarterback should be, I think, I, I did a podcast on Friday where I said, you know, long way to go, but I said, assuming the Jets get Aaron Rodgers, even though I'm not that high on Aaron Rodgers, that I think the Jets and, and, and Browns would be the two new playoff teams that year, that they would be the six and the seven seed.


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[Assistant] Is Indianapolis worse than Atlanta? Didn't they win more games than Atlanta? Indianapolis last year, just by the eye test. Yeah, but they got, what's his name? The young wide receiver.


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[Assistant] I don't know, and Indy's desperate. I think they're the most desperate for a quarterback.


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[Assistant] The most, the craziest thing to me, and maybe, maybe there's some bias here, is the Steelers at 11. I thought that was high. I don't understand like,


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[Assistant] Bias, maybe we think the brown should be higher. I do think the brown should be higher than that. But,


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[Assistant] If you're going to have the Browns 20, to me that, that assumes that Deshaun Watson is not going to be good this year. They're making that assumption. So if you're making that assumption, why do you have the Ravens and Steelers so high when you don't know who the Ravens quarterback is and the Steelers quarterback was not very good? Big question. No, I know. I don't get it.


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[Assistant] Who's the Packers? Like, they like. Right. Now, it's not just quarterback, but. I mean, that's a large part of it. I, and to be fair, like, we


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[Assistant] Teams may be looking at it and say, an organization like this might say, well, Watson sucked last year. He hasn't been good for three years. We don't know if he's going to be good. Their defense was terrible. They didn't add a ton of sexy names. Like we look at the Browns defense and we think it's going to be a lot better because of Jim Schwartz and some of the guys they added.


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[Assistant] Like, I think they're in that 11 to 16 going into the season.


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[Assistant] Every game he plays. Right, but when one came back, like, they won a lot of close games against mediocre and bad teams. I don't know, listen, I, I don't think the Steelers are that good. I thought they'd be under 500. They won their last four to finish nine and eight. I, I think they could win 11. I think they could win seven. Here's the thing, here's the, I, I, see, I don't think they can win 11. You don't? But this is why. When I see Kenny Pickett,


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[Assistant] He reminds me of like Mac Jones. Yes. Which is like...


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[Assistant] He, he's already. He showed nice growth last year. Listen, I might be wrong. I'm just saying, I think what we've seen from Mack, now Mack Jones is better as a rookie than Kenny Pickett. So maybe he's a little more from Kenny Pickett, but I think what Mack Jones, Mack Jones did as a rookie.


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[Assistant] Like I would always look at Alabama running backs. Like, we've seen the best of them in Alabama. They don't get better than that because


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[Assistant] Saban gets the best of them. And I feel like these are guys who came in ready to play in the NFL because they played a lot in college.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and it's just their guys. And I don't, so I don't see them being that good. And I don't love the Steelers running game. And the Steelers, obviously, and the Steelers to me have a studs and duds defense like the Browns do. So they got some holes in their defense.


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[Assistant] It's, it's the same thing with baseball, especially even more baseball, because the Indians don't get, the Guardians don't get a non-national pub. No. Like, when we had Mike Theron on, you were off. Like, Mike knows the Guardians.


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[Assistant] Here, football is king. I love baseball, so I watch baseball, but we don't talk as much baseball, and I think we've done a good job talking baseball, talking Cavs here, but football is always king.


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[Assistant] Right, in New York, it's a four-way tie between the Yankees, the Mets, the Giants and the Jets. It is. I had to, I had to be on top of more things.


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[Assistant] They're working in New York. It's a little hard. I'll imagine throwing 30 more teams on in football, 28 in baseball. And it makes it hard. So when I would do a national, when I was doing a national show here for when I was working the radio station and I would do a national show, CBS sports radio on the weekend.


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[Assistant] And like, I knew there were some teams I didn't know as well. Cause it was impossible.


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[Assistant] For Jerry Judy, I'd do it. Cause now I got Jerry Judy, Cooper, and Elijah Moore. Now I'm cooking.


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[Assistant] Right? It used to be about having the great defense. Right. And if you have a great defense now, to me it's a bonus. Yes. That's fine. But I... Philly had the great defense and they did not win. Right.


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[Assistant] And the only reason they were in the game is because their offense played great too. Right. Okay?


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[Assistant] The rules didn't favor the offense as much as they do now. And that factors into, it's almost impossible, I don't think any team was ever going to have a defense like those defenses again. I think we'll never see a defense that good. Because you can't play that way.


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[Assistant] That's right, but here's why, here's why the off, beyond the obvious why we all want the offense, think about it this way. If you have a, you just said it, you have to have Hall of Famer, to be great on defense, you have to have a boatload of great players.


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[Assistant] To be great. Not to be good on the events. To be all time great. You have to have like 5, 6, 7. To be great on offense, you don't have to have 5, 6, 7 great players. 1, 2.


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[Assistant] Right, and look at the playoff teams that you mentioned there.


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[Assistant] Most of them are, even though their defense was good, their offense was better.


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[Assistant] They don't care what you think of them, they don't care. You embarrassed us, we're not paying you anymore.