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[Assistant] Coach, obviously the last few years since leaving Baltimore, he's bounced around with a couple of teams and now he was out of the league for most of the year. He's 38 about to turn 39.


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[Assistant] The Browns call him, he comes off the couch and two weeks later he's starting and outside of the pick he threw late. He played a fantastic game.


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[Assistant] Were you surprised he was still willing to come back or you didn't think he was done?


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[Assistant] Coach, last thing, if you were in a tough spot off the field, football unrelated, and you need a helping hand, are you calling Joe Flacco, or you're calling our producer, who we now refer to as Mikey McNuggets? Who is the, who is the coach?


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[Assistant] By the way, when you try to voice text Joe Flacco, it comes up FLACK.


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[Assistant] The most road wins. Eli Manning has a lotta road wins.


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[Assistant] A lot of pressure on me here to try to get the second perfect game ever. Both 6 and 0.


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[Assistant] In fairness, Tyvis, you're the easiest person to ball-bust on this show. You are.


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[Assistant] Doing good, Tony. Hey, is that fair to say that Calvin Ridley's been a little up and down this year? Is that fair analysis? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] The injury is a big deal. We are all assuming he's not going to play this week with a high ankle sprain. It is good news that he's not out for the year, but what, what are the Jags do here? Because obviously they're in great shape to make the playoffs, but the division is not a short thing because Houston and India are both decent, especially Houston.


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[Assistant] And you don't want to rush them back, but it's not that much time. How do you think they handle this here?


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[Assistant] Tony, I, I like many other media members was crapping all over Jacksonville when they signed Christian Kirk. I remember when they signed that contract, I'm like, what are they nuts? This guy's an average receiver.


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[Assistant] Tony, Travis Etienne, he's injured his rookie year, doesn't play. Last year he was great, he averaged over 5 yards to carry. This year he's under 4 yards to carry and he seems to be struggling. Now I'm not watching the Jaguars every week like you are, so is this an Etienne issue or is this an offensive line issue? It's an offensive line issue.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I was surprised. I know he doesn't have a lot of touchdowns this year, but when they had the stat on the Monday night game that it was Evan Ingram's first touchdown at home, I was like, man, he had an awesome year last year. I couldn't believe he had no home.


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[Assistant] Touchdown. He's a good player. They've been using him more lately. It seemed like earlier in the year he was kind of the forgotten guy, but he's one of those, like we know about the elite tight ends in the league, but he's in that second group of tight ends. I think he's under, he's, he's very underrated. What do you, what's your take on him?


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[Assistant] Are Jackson, uh, people in Jacksonville favorite baseball team, favorite basketball team?


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[Assistant] That's funny. What's your prediction, Tony? What's your prediction for the game?


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[Assistant] And that's the best. And right now, because there's no Trevor Lawrence, the best team you're gonna play the rest of the year is the Texans. So that would be the most impressive win.


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[Assistant] But the division's a lot better than it's been the last couple of years. A lot better. Those three teams are all at least decent.


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[Assistant] Coming into the season, but it's turned into a dog fight. And Tennessee, which had been the best team in that division for a number of years, is the worst now. And the Texans play them twice still.


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[Assistant] I used to have a 92-3 the fan fleece. I had a, like a baseball cap, costume. Yeaah, I mean, you're not gonna win.


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[Assistant] There's no pressure playing San Diego. Zero. And I would think he'll do well there, you know, hitting either before or after Aaron Judge. He'll have great protection. But, uh, we'll see what the Yankees give up. Michael King's a really nice young pitcher who the average fan probably doesn't know, but he's a good pitcher.


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[Assistant] Yeah. To make a move like this. Right. It's interesting that. But King is a big piece to give up. I mean they have like five years of control of King and he's a good pitcher.


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[Assistant] They sign free agents. That's what they do. I'll be interested to see what they give up. Verdugo also I think only has one year left on his deal. He's okay. He's a good player.


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[Assistant] By the way, Zach Wilson's starting for the Jets again.


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[Assistant] You think they're more likely to start a guy on the team than the portal, huh?


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[Assistant] You mean you never did it to anybody else, you're saying? No, nobody ever did that to me.


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[Assistant] They crushed it, you guys continue to put out good content when I'm not here, so I'm just part of the cog that keeps this thing moving, but you guys are the stars of the show, and we got a big show as Jay mentioned, we're going to WKYC in 90 minutes give or take, but first, G, you sent me something that we have to show.


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[Assistant] And I know you're giving away and you're selling some of these Grinch hoodies and you said you found the actual Grinch. I did. And somehow he found BushlineBeauty.com because we have visual proof of the Grinch. He just showed up.


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[Assistant] What was the Packers? Packers have started at seven. Fav Rogers, Matt Flynn, Seneca Wallace, Scott Tolzine, Brett Hunley, and Jordan Love.


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[Assistant] The app is easy to use and there's a wide range of betting options including spreads, player props, over-unders, and much, much more. So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL, an official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Do we have a ticket?


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[Assistant] No tickets today. We're going to get right into it because we are so jam packed busy. But if you have a winning ticket, make sure you tweet it at us. We'll get back to featuring those next week on the show. We mentioned Joe Flacco and Jay, he has put up some astronomical numbers, good and bad in this first three starts. A lot of turnovers, a lot of touchdowns. So I want to start with this question.


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[Assistant] At this stage of his career, is it possible for Joe Flacco to play four quarters of turnover free football? Or are the turnovers just part of the experiment and the experience of 38 year old Joe Flacco?


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[Assistant] But yeah, here's, here's what I want to point out. So they were 11 points better than league average, right? Okay. 11 points worse than league average.


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[Assistant] Baltimore's third in that percentage, by the way. Where's San Fran? 28%. San Francisco's ninth at 31%. Where's Philly? Surprised by that.


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[Assistant] So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL.


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[Assistant] How would you guys feel about this accomplishment considering


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[Assistant] They're the only team in football that hasn't had it yet. And it's something that you would expect a modern day franchise to have already accomplished in their history. Gee, you wanna start?


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[Assistant] We're gonna bring in Tim Couch, and it's a special Tim Couch appearance. I'll tell you guys why in one sec. But first, fan duel is America's number one sportsbook, and even...


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[Assistant] As the weather gets colder, the NFL offers stay red hot. And right now new customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet. That's 150 bucks if your team wins. So if you've been thinking about joining FanDuel, there's no better time than right now to get in on the action.


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[Assistant] The app is simple to use and you can bet on anything on FanDuel, including spreads, player props, over-unders, and much, much more. So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL. Let's welcome in Tim Couch and Tim, 21 years ago to the day.


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[Assistant] You had a 92 yard, two minute drive touchdown, a touchdown drive with no timeouts against the Ravens to keep the playoff hopes alive. You tossed a game winning score with 43 sec with 29 seconds to play to lead the Browns to a 14 13 win.


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[Assistant] Tim, you mentioned play action out of the shotgun. According to next gen stats against Chicago on play action passes out of the gun.


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[Assistant] Flacco is 7 for 7, 190 yards and a perfect 99.9 passer rating. So, whatever he's doing, it's working to perfection.


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[Assistant] Guys, we do it every Friday. It's one of my favorite things we do, but the 10 best players in this game count injuries, positional values, values irrelevant. The 10 best guys on the field Sunday. We'll start with one, work our way down.


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[Assistant] I had Jonathan Greenyard as well and he's in my McNuggets 5 stats by the slightest of margins over Mario Cooper who better be coming up here sooner or I'll get mad at you guys.


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[Assistant] This first stat is about four quarterbacks. Last week I gave you guys a stat that Browns were the only team in football.


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[Assistant] To have four quarterbacks win a game this season. The first team in football to have four quarterbacks win a game since the 2015 Houston Texans who also made the playoffs. Brian Hoyer, Ryan Mallett, TJ Yates, and Brandon Whedon all started and won games that year.


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[Assistant] I went back and I looked. I can't confirm this, but I checked everywhere I could find.


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[Assistant] The Browns are the first team in NFL history, according to my own research. I could not find, I looked everywhere.


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[Assistant] To have four quarterbacks leave a fourth quarter game winning drive in the same season.


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[Assistant] Every quarterback that started a game for the Browns this season has led a fourth quarter game winning comeback. Watson did it against Baltimore. PJ did it against San Francisco and Indianapolis. DTR against Pittsburgh. Flacco last week against Chicago. I couldn't find it anywhere else.


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[Assistant] Alright, number two, this is a Joe Flacco tribute. So, in three games with the Browns, he's thrown for 939 passing yards.


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[Assistant] However, Jay, this is where it comes in. It comes into context. 212 yards in the fourth quarter versus Chicago in the last month, the last four games that Texans have played, they've allowed 220 total.


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[Assistant] Passing yards in the fourth quarter in overtime in their last four games. So Flacco versus Chicago 2-12. Houston in the last four games they've played, 2-20 total.


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[Assistant] They held Tennessee to 59 yards, but that was fourth quarter end overtime. So that was even extra. And it was a long overtime. The Jets, they held to 45. Denver threw for 83, but they picked off Denver twice. Okay. And Jacksonville, 33 yards. So in total, 224 games. That's pretty good.


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[Assistant] Uh, I bookmarked it where I found that one. Hold on, I can tell you.


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[Assistant] And also, I just deserve credit for every yard. No, you're right. It's two 39. It's a bad, bad spilling 9 38. I apologize. Hand up my bed.


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[Assistant] I got one. Next up, the third one. This is a matchup to watch. We talked about Nico Collins, right? Yeaah. So Nico Collins has spent 80% of his snaps lined up on the outside. And against man coverage this year, the QB rating for the Houston Texans quarterback targeting Nico Collins and man coverage.


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[Assistant] A near perfect 155.8. It's the highest quarterback rating to any individual receiver in man coverage. Now I know Anthony mentioned this yesterday, but the Browns have three of the top four most successful coverage corners in football, which what next gen stats does all their analytics based on the route.


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[Assistant] The overall outcome, they determined success rate. Right. Newsom 67.6, number one in the NFL. Ward and Newsom 66.6, tied with Jalen Johnson of the Bears last week for second.


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[Assistant] When teams pass against the Browns, they have a minus 157 EPA. It's the lowest rate since 2016. These guys are phenomenal in man coverage and Nico Collins is great against man coverage. Just something to watch that these are two masters at what they do going up against each other.


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[Assistant] Alright, moving on, a little, uh, a little nod to David Njoku who's been phenomenal in the last three games since Joe Flacco's taken over at quarterback in three games. He's been targeted 28 times, has 18 catches, 212 yards, three touchdowns, and on the season,


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[Assistant] He ranks third among NFL tight ends and targets, fifth in reception, seventh in yards, first in Yak, tied for third in touchdowns. And one thing we know about Njoku, he's impossible to get taken down. He's one of the hardest guys to tackle in football. His average depth of target is just 4.4 yards.


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[Assistant] He averages 7.1 yards after the catch per reception. He's averaging 11 yards per catch. 70% of his yards are on Yak. And we saw it and it even goes back to that third and 15 pass from Joe Flacco last week where he ended up catching it, running for the first down, putting them into field goal range.


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[Assistant] I don't know if it's Joe Flacco who's unlocked, I'm not sure if it's just him coming into his own finally, but the David and Joker we've seen the last three weeks.


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[Assistant] I missed one game, but it's all good. Last stat, some names to know. We've mentioned a couple of these. I know you guys covered them yesterday, but we talked about Jonathan Greene earlier, 12 and a half sacks. He's half a sack behind Miles, but he has four games this season.


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[Assistant] With two or more sacks, including last week, just in comparison, Miles has three. So he's had big games. He's a guy to watch. Derek Stingley and Steven Nelson, they're two cornerbacks. The only DB duo in football.


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[Assistant] And only because he's a Buckeye, I do have a CJ Stroud that I just want to throw out there. Uh, I made this before I knew he was completely ruled out, but between the clean pocket throws for Stroud and under pressure, he's a completely different quarterback. When he's clean.


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[Assistant] Gets time to set his feet. He grades out right in between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes.


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[Assistant] And real real quick, cause we got super chats, I was looking for something else and came across this, take it full Steve. The Browns this year, their home road splits, we know offensively, defensively their different team at home versus the road. Look at the sack number, that's what kinda stuck out to me. 30 sacks at home, only 11 on the road. That doesn't make any sense. Way fewer plays, but it's just it, I just wanted to put that out there, something I kinda came across.


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[Assistant] Alright, we gotta get Super Chats in real quick, guys. We had a bunch of people gifting memberships. We appreciate everyone who gifted a membership, you guys, the real MVP's. Matthew Culpa says, G. Bush looking like Denzel Washington in Training Day. Happy Holidays to the best Cleveland sports show. Same to you, Matthew. James Gosby says, Happy Holidays, guys. Here's to the Browns, winning and returning to the postseason.


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[Assistant] Uh, Phil Bowman said, morning Mafia. Hope everyone had a great, safe holiday weekend. Skilly says, I have an indirect connection to the Tellers as well. I'll try to reach out to her. Damien Frederick says, G Bush dressed like James Carter on vacation. And Daryl says, UCSS is lit. Cool and Mafia in the building. Browns win 31-17. Flacco and Stefanski, AKA the Property Brothers. Tune in to WKYC here in a second.


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[Assistant] Dal's right, make sure you guys tune in in about 30 seconds as we head over to WKYC.


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[Assistant] I'd probably call it a penalty and, you know, no play, run the play over.


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[Assistant] So yes, they've done a tremendous job and they deserve all the credit that they're getting.


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[Assistant] Again, they deserve all the accolades they're going to get.


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[Assistant] To, the game is very slow for him. His ability to see what's going on out there and to operate very, very quickly. And then he's also got the arm to get it downfield very quickly. So, uh, you know, I just think that that's what you're gonna have to do.


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[Assistant] For the playoffs if he can, uh, but we just don't know if that's gonna happen yet.


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[Assistant] Well, they, they can, they can try and they can do some other things. I mean, they can run, they can try maybe Marquis Goodwin on a few jet sweeps and some things like that. They can use the shorter passing game as their running game if they have to. So, you know, maybe some more screens and, and things like that.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, there will be ways to accomplish what they need to do and they, they will find them and you know, once again, they've got such an experienced quarterback that no matter what they ask him to do, he's done it all before and, and he will be able to accomplish it for them.


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[Assistant] Well, I know they have a good defense. They have a good, sound, aggressive defense. And as I mentioned before, uh, you know, you've got to really keep


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[Assistant] From making bad decisions. He can't be throwing interceptions and, you know, the first two of those I didn't really think were his fault. It seemed like there was miscommunication between him and Cedric on the first one. And then on the second one, Cedric had the ball popped out of his hands.


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[Assistant] And, you know, when you're catching guys at home, I mean, when they played the San Francisco 49ers at home, let's remember, I mean, they lost Debo Samuel very early on in that game.


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[Assistant] So, you know, they're gonna have to restock that position a little bit and some others, you know, they're gonna have to keep an eye on the defensive backfield to see if Grant actually does.


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[Assistant] Well, I know he was tentatively scheduled to speak to the media tomorrow. And a lot of times you only do that if you're planning on playing in the game. So I'm gonna say right now that he's probably got a good chance of playing.


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know, we won't know for sure. Again, uh, we don't


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[Assistant] I have much of an injury update until we get out there tomorrow, but uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, last time I checked, New York Times had, uhm, Predictor had that at about 4% chance of happening.


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[Assistant] So, I mean, they could do their part and make that happen. And then, uh, they would just need Baltimore to falter.


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[Assistant] Hey! Here we go! Happy Tuesday! Gee Bush is sick. We saw this coming, right? He's a mess. I mean, his voice has been teetering on gone for a couple of days now. So Earl is in the middle hot seat. How you doing, brother? I'm good. I mean, thank God I know the system, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I didn't even, I didn't even remember that Jake Browning, I knew Jake Browning had been in and out of the Bengals and he's been, he's been on their practice squad at parts of the last two years. I didn't, I didn't realize it had been since 21. What I love about it, and we saw it too with Jacksonville after Lawrence went down.


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[Assistant] Herber, uh, not Herber. C.J. Bethard. C.J. Bethard's been in their system for two years. Yes.


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[Assistant] It makes sense. Yeaah. It makes sense. There's a level of confidence. You play this, uhm, like sort of rotating chair backup quarterback. Yeaah. As if it's a throwaway position.


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[Assistant] Perhaps this year, more than any year in recent memory, we have seen just how important, particularly here, the backup quarterback is. And earlier this year when I said, I thought the Browns were woefully underprepared at backup quarterback,


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[Assistant] And one of the things, the criticisms I heard was, nobody has a good backup quarterback. Well, they do.


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[Assistant] So, if nothing else, they're gonna be a potential spoiler. I mean, I don't know that Jake Browning can play that well consistently.


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[Assistant] But he was phenomenal there. That's when you play with confidence. Look how confident he was out there. You're right, and I like that they had training wheels on him early. And then they said, okay, let's go. Let's go, I've seen enough. And your playmakers have to make plays.


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[Assistant] The Bengals for the first time in a while had their full complement of playmakers. Higgins has been out for a while.


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[Assistant] The backup quarterback situation there and the backup quarterback situation here. The Browns don't have those playmakers.


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[Assistant] First time Monday Night Football has been there in over a decade. Right. First Bengals row win.


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[Assistant] On Monday night football since they beat the Browns in 1990. Fun fact about that. They lost 10 in a row on the road.


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[Assistant] Kudos to the Bengals. And by the way, Joe Mixon doesn't look washed up. No, he is. I thought it was his best performance. Wow. But you know what I think made the difference? A, first of all, their offensive line has now played together the whole year. They haven't missed any time. It's really coming together. It is, sure. They had upgraded the talent and now it's really showing. I think he runs hard. I mean, I was watching


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[Assistant] Cause I don't watch him as closely as you do. Right. I see the numbers and I see him when he plays Cleveland or Pittsburgh and that, but I was watching closely. He runs hard.


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[Assistant] He ran hard yesterday. I think the fact, they've been, I thought they used him too much. The fact that they spotted the rookie, Chase Brown, who's now healthy.


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[Assistant] No. So if they, you know, our buddy Diernes Johnson got blown up a couple of times.


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[Assistant] Oh, a few days ago, okay. Just a few days ago. How old is Joe? Is he 40 yet?


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[Assistant] Joe Flacco's 38. Joe Flacco's gonna be 39 in a few days. Yeah, a couple days, yep. So he and Joe Flacco were born like a week or two apart, and here's Joe. Our franchise is now on the shoulders of a guy older than Joe Thomas. That's right.


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[Assistant] He was here just a couple years, right? And then went to the Patriots.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that could be close. Roughly? Yeaah. And how many snaps per game? He wasn't in all the time. I'll say 40 or 50? I think it's too many. Is it too many? Well, the Browns defense was probably on the field a lot in those days.


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[Assistant] Played here. He didn't start right away.


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[Assistant] No, he did not. And then he went in, but he was terrible. I don't think he played much at all. No, he went to Kansas City, I think, and then he was better, but he was terrible here.


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[Assistant] Did we give him 500 or is that too many? I feel like it's too many, Earl.


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[Assistant] Three seasons? Two? I would say between 30 and 35 games.


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[Assistant] Oh, he barely played. The fact that these were the number one picks. Oh my god. Like, I think if you were trying to screw it up, you couldn't have done it any better. Of the five we've named so far, who was the best player? Brandon Wheaton, probably.


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[Assistant] Give him. 300? I was gonna say 400, so. Okay. Give him 350. 350. That's high. So you're still hittin'. Still hittin'. Still hittin', yeaah.


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[Assistant] Four years? Alright, here's the funny thing. He's now the best of this group. Without question. And he was horrible.


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[Assistant] Most of those guys shouldn't even have been NFL players. At best they were backups. Well if you look at it, they all washed out very shortly after they left Cleveland. Oh yeaah.


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[Assistant] It's totally true. Didn't they trade him away? By the way, the Patriots became the first team in the history of football. Did you see this stat? No. First team in the history of football to hold their opponent to ten points or less three weeks in a row and lose all three games.


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[Assistant] That would give him a thousand a season.


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[Assistant] For Brandon Wheaton, we're really close on him. You nailed it on that one. Yeah. Uhm, Gilbert, 350. 411. Very close. Corey Coleman, 400.


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[Assistant] He must have missed more time due to injury. He was here a couple of years. And then, uhm, peppers we had in 2000. 1469.


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[Assistant] I got to, and you'll win. Your winnings won't be as big, but that's okay, you gotta cover your losses. By the way, the Browns open I believe is a three and a half point dog in this game.


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[Assistant] Yesterday, you say, who's going to win Brown's Jaguars? I would have said Jaguars. Today, I'm saying Browns. In fact, on our first topic, I've actually changed my answer.


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[Assistant] Because of what happened in last night's game. When I first saw that question, my answer wasn't a good one, but for Browns fans.


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[Assistant] They will now. Yeah, they will now. They will now. And I think because I think they're going to beat Jacksonville. All this is predicated on Lawrence not playing. If he surprises us in plays, I may change my pick.


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[Assistant] Right now without Lawrence, I would pick the Browns at home.


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[Assistant] And that would be, in my calculation, the swing game that puts them from 9 and 8, which is where I predicted they would be when the season started, to 10 and 7. And they're in at 10 and 7. So what, you got them losing to Cincinnati, beating the Jets and Bears? I have them losing to Cincinnati. After what I saw yesterday out of Browning.


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[Assistant] And the game is in Cincinnati. And I s- I think it's gonna be a meaningful game for the Bengals. I really do.


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[Assistant] Based on my, you know, I went to do my answer, I did schedule game. Yeaah. And I had, I had actually the seven seed being nine and eight. Interesting. That doesn't mean I'm gonna be right. No, but it's, it's interesting. What do you got, Earl?


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[Assistant] I don't disagree with you, but if we would have known in August that after 12 games, we would sit on this show and say, hell yea, the Browns can make the playoffs because of that guy right there, Joe Flacco.


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[Assistant] I look at the, I went through the schedules of all the teams that are 6 and 6 and 7 and 5 and played the schedule game for what it's worth. Now, I think the Browns- Do we have the easiest schedule?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that, no, I think the EC- Well, I mean, look, the Bengals now are 500. I think you have it backwards, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, you got it early. You got it reversed. Yeah, because when I look at their schedule, I'm like, that's gotta be one of the easiest. You see, I think, the team I think is gonna, so I got, when I did my, my calculations, I didn't figure out the tie breakers for the seven seed, so that could be anybody.


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[Assistant] But I have two teams getting the double digit wins of all, of the, of the, of the teams with six and seven wins, which is


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[Assistant] Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Houston, Indy, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Denver. So that's what? Eight teams that are seven and five or six and six. I have two of them getting the ten wins. Now to be fair, I did this before the Bengals played last night, so I'd have to think about the Bengals again. I still think they're going to fall short and finish nine and eight.


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[Assistant] But, oh, it's seven teams? You have, you don't have Cincinnati on the list. Oh, that's the current playoff season. Sorry, sorry, yeah. Just so we're all in the same team. So, I have...


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[Assistant] Houston actually finishing in the five spot. Look at their schedule. They play the Titans twice.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I think Houston's winning at least three, maybe four of their final five games. I think they're the, I honestly right now, if you, if you look at those eight teams, I think Houston's the best of them all. Do you know, Houston, they showed this graphic in the, uh, at the end of their game. Yeah. Houston's had four losses that have come


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[Assistant] Either as time expired. Yeaah. Or in the last minute. Yeaah, yeaah, yeaah. Look at where they would be if you give them half of those wins. They've been great and their quarterback's playing great. So I got Houston as the five seed. I got the Browns as the six finishing ten and seven.


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[Assistant] Uh, and then the seventh seed, I got, I got the bangles, the bills, the steelers, the cults.


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[Assistant] I think all tied at nine and eight. So I didn't figure out the tiebreaker for the seven seed, but.


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[Assistant] None, nobody looks, the teams that look the best right now in the AFC are Kansas City and, I'm sorry, Miami and Baltimore, really.


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[Assistant] Baltimore, outside of the Browns game, the Baltimore's played great. You know what's interesting though, it's hard sometimes to figure out when, like just take the North, they're all above 500. Sometimes it's hard to figure out, is that because they're all really good? Maybe they're all really mediocre.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't, I don't know. They're beating each other. Yeaah. The North is beating each other, and I think everybody's gonna go one-on-one if the Browns lose to the Bengals at the end. The Bengals got swept by the Ravens. Oh, they did get swept by both of them. And the Bengals are actually 0-4 in the division. Are they really? Yep.


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[Assistant] So they lost to Pittsburgh again since Ann Cleaver? Pittsburgh once, they got Pittsburgh again. Ooh, wow. Uh, they, and they lost twice in a round. So four of their six losses have come in the north. That might tend, I think it's really good, not mediocre.


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[Assistant] I think it's safe to say we've seen a lot of surprises so far and I, you can project there will be a lot more surprises moving forward. It wouldn't surprise, like, obviously we all are much more optimistic about the Browns beating Jacksonville without assuming Trevor Lawrence doesn't play, but it would surprise anybody if the Jags won with CJ Beathard in this game. It wouldn't surprise me.


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[Assistant] You know what's tough though? He may not know who's playing until Sunday morning. That could be tough too. We were just talking about it. You can't, to be, you can't be, the Browns are a one point favorite. You can't be surprised if they lose. You might be disappointed, sure. Yea, that's what I said. But I can't be surprised by anything at this point. No, but I would be, I would definitely be disappointed.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, uh, the league has come into, what it's turned into this year is who's got the better backup quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Starting quarterback. That's it. One. One. And they're the best team. And they're faring away, running away with the division right now. You know, they got a two game cushion on everybody else.


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[Assistant] There's nothing. I'm not saying he's not competent. I'm just saying that, look, I'm sure Jacksonville's disappointed this morning that they lost to Browning.


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[Assistant] They gotta be disappointed. Of course. But they gotta, and, and, uh, but, but at this point, I...


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[Assistant] No result would surprise me with the Browns with any of their remaining games. No. Even if they lost to the Bears or Jets, it wouldn't surprise me. Even if they beat Houston, it wouldn't surprise me. Nothing would surprise me. You're right. They could go 0-5 and they could go 5-0.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think they are, but they've just gotta get healthy. It was the same thing that I said before we picked last week. I said, you gotta have...


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[Assistant] Two of the three between Walker, Garrett, and Ward, I said, you're gonna have to have two of the three back and playing like themselves. They didn't.


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[Assistant] Denzel Ward, to me, we're going to talk about this coming up, so I don't want to go too into it here.


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[Assistant] You want to transition to it now? I mean, you can't. Denzel Ward to me is the big X factor for the Browns going forward. Again, we talked about this last year with the ridiculous 6-0 conversation. The chance of any team, any team, Baltimore, Philly, San Francisco, any team going 5-0 to end the season is slim. The chance of the Browns going 5-0 is like,


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[Assistant] You know, there's something about this chair. I don't know if it's Kool-Aid infused. I don't know if it comes up from the cushion. I'm not sure, but bro, I love you. They ain't winning the last


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[Assistant] So. I'm not sure what the tie breaker would be. I don't know either, but I mean, in that scenario, the Browns win out. The Ravens would lose.


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[Assistant] Kansas City doesn't scare me. I wouldn't want to go to Kansas City. Hey, how would this be for a storyline? The Browns go to Baltimore to play the Ravens in the playoffs with Joe Flacco at quarterback. That's a storyline.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you, I wouldn't be surprised if DTR is starting again before the end of the season. Don't say that. Don't say that. Either because of injury or poor play. Yeaah. No, no, because of, because of poor play. Oh shit.


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[Assistant] They like me, man. They got some kind of crazy face. You gotta love bronze fans. You can punch bronze fans in the face and they're like, yeah, I'm beating your ass. I put a pole up yesterday. You blast them right in the face.


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[Assistant] There was a lot of propaganda being spread that Emerson was as good as Denzel Ward. That is not true.


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[Assistant] It's time to go. Show over, right? Emerson's a good player. Uh, nothing, nothing. Well, and by the way, let's not forget that there was a stretch last year where Denzel Ward looked like Denzel Smith. Right. I didn't recognize him. But that was the only time in his career


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[Assistant] When he's been healthy outside of last year, he's been great. And he's playing, this year he's played his best football, I think. He went from having his worst year to having his best year. They need him desperately. Yeaah, he's gotta come back.


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[Assistant] And that's Miles and Denzel. Absolutely. And that, so the other guy, the Browns have more good players than they've had on defense in forever. Probably since the 80s. But you know what? They only have two special players. Well a lot of those players that we thought were


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[Assistant] I thought the interior line, uh, the interior of the defensive line was, was, was top notch. Talked about this on the show yesterday. They've been the invisible men lately. Without Garrett.


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[Assistant] But other than that, it's not what we thought. But as you said yesterday, Mike, Dalvin Tomlinson got history sacks against the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] Who were, at the time, with Clayton Toon making his NFL debut, and a bad offensive line, and no James Connor, they were about as bad an offense as you could have. Ogbo's, I think Ogbo's been consistently solid.


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[Assistant] They spent a lot of money on that defensive line. And they're not getting their money's worth.


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[Assistant] They spent a lot of money on him. Yeah, that's right. And he has, and he's been an okay player, but not worthy of the money they spent on him. I think it's safe to say they have not gotten their return on investment on defense, on the defense.


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[Assistant] The players that they spent on the defensive line, I think it's been... Listen, the talent's been upgraded. They're better on the defensive line, certainly. But I think what we've seen the last couple of weeks is...


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[Assistant] I know, cause the way you wrote that question, you said, this may sound crazy. Oh. It does sound crazy.


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett is a generational talent who is going to the Hall of Fame. Denzel


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[Assistant] He's a very, very good player. He's way above the average in his position. And he's the second best player on this defense. But he is not the most valuable player on this defense.


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[Assistant] I agree. Listen, if the Jaguars are without Trevor Lawrence


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[Assistant] That was wiped out last night because of the holding. Oh my God. What an incredible catch that was. That was crazy. That was crazy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we got much, we got much bigger question. Yeah. Well, think about it. You're right. Look at the quarterbacks. The Browns are facing the rest of the way you potentially, you're potentially facing. So this week, I mean, besides CJ Straub, the only really good quarterback Browning might be the second best quarterback going to face the rest.


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[Assistant] Justin, right now, in a vacuum, after what we saw one game last night.


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[Assistant] I think you gotta shave your head completely. Yeaah, on the show. On the show. If they don't go 4-1. Yeaah. I think G. Bush should shave your head.


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[Assistant] When we hired Ant, he was not a graphic artist. He had more experience at this.


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[Assistant] Uh, they looked at the incompletions, he had a lot of incompletions, but I don't hit him for those because I had at least five draws. I think the picks really crush you in the grades, the bad picks. Well, it was one pick, but it was...


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[Assistant] What was he, 22 for 45? 24 of 43 I think. 24 of 43? Just over 50%. Okay, now here's the thing, he had at least 5 drops, at least, maybe more. If you give him those 5 as completions, he's 29 of 43, and all of a sudden you're in the 60% range.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I just thought the receivers did him absolutely no favors. And we talked about it being a continuing problem. They better get better at that. Because you, I mean, you have one job.


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[Assistant] Yeah, 60, 60 is low. I like Jay's grade. You didn't overdo it. You didn't go too high. Yeah. Uh, he had a good game.


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[Assistant] To me, I- Yea, how many targets? Twelve. Twelve targets. But did he have any drops or were- He had one drop.


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[Assistant] He definitely had one. At least one. Maybe more. Yeah, I'd actually go with Earl's grade if I had to choose. I think he had two drops actually. I would have gone a little lower. I would have gone in the high 60s on Elijah. I would have been too. I played the game in my head before you wrote your number down. I had him at 68. But your grade is lower, so I would go with Earl's grade.


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[Assistant] Let's go on 65. 65. Alright. Might be a little, a little high.


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[Assistant] 0.0. Does anybody look worse trying to make a tackle than Greg Newsom? Have you ever seen anybody look worse? Well, that picture is very unflattering of him. This basically sums up the game for him.


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[Assistant] Well, I thought he played a good game. I don't think he'd get bonus points because it's...


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[Assistant] Not yet, but he will be. I believe he will be.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't disagree that he might be someday, but there's no way. No, not this year. As a rookie, you gotta be elite. But I understand the question, it's a fair question, and here's why. Our ceiling for him...


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[Assistant] He's ex- he's exploded through my ceiling. I had a low floor and a low ceiling for him. He's exceeded his ceiling.


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[Assistant] That's how you get to a Pro Bowl. Yeaah. Okay. That's how you get there. You don't get there based on four weeks of stats. No, no, no, but what's encouraging about that, you're right. I just missed some of that time. But here's what's encouraging. 150 past pressure situations is a lot. Here's why that's impressive to me.


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[Assistant] There's a learning curve at that position and Joe Thomas is coming out in a little bit. He'll talk about that learning curve.


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[Assistant] What it tells me is, he's already turned another corner. Path blocking, if I'm not mistaken.


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[Assistant] Wasn't he better in pass or run block than pass block?


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[Assistant] That's good! He's been very impressive, but he's not anywhere close to a Pro Bowler.


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[Assistant] I don't think he is either, but I do think he's gonna make one. I just think, first of all, if we're judging the Browns draft from last year, A plus on that pick. You gotta be, to be a Pro Bowler, you gotta be one of the


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[Assistant] Four best tackles in the conference. Yeah, well, there's no way he's one of the four best tackles. That's the top 25%. Right. There's no way he's one of the four best tackles in the conference already. No chance. Yeah. Again, I don't, I don't see everybody else that closely, so I don't know.


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[Assistant] What about, okay, let's do this. Not that it's all we have. PFF grades.


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[Assistant] You're running out of time here, Mary Kay. Things are going to get crazy out of Crocker Park. Less than three weeks today. Crocker Park's already bananas.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it is. And Mary Kay, any notes that you want to throw our way? Anything that maybe slipped through the cracks from Sunday's loss?


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[Assistant] What was the general reaction from folks you spoke with after the game about Joe's play? Because, I mean, honestly, and you can't take that out, that was the play that


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[Assistant] swung the whole game, but just his command, his presence, his arm strength, his decision making, what were, what were folks saying after the game to you about it?


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[Assistant] Well, who is it? I assumed it was Cedric Tillman, but it's not. Is it Njoku? Who is it?


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[Assistant] Like it used to be it would just be Kelsey and maybe Kittle and Andrews.


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[Assistant] But Hockinson has moved into that. You got three young guys. Look at Laporta. Laporta's been phenomenal as a rookie. Dalton Kincaid has come on after a slow first month. He's been great for Buffalo. This kid Trey McBride in Arizona, we saw him when the Browns played against him. He's a second year guy. He's got six touchdowns. Laporta's got six touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they need him to be, I think you're right. And you, one of the things you said in that,


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[Assistant] Catching the ball on the sideline, getting the feet down. Sideline awareness. Yea, sideline awareness. That's an art. I mean, it is, and the Browns, you mentioned the joku, but the Browns have a problem with that in general, I think.


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[Assistant] Good. We've got a question for you as it pertains to Deshaun Watson. This is a conversation we haven't yet had on the air, but we were discussing it in our text chain last night.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson, uh, obviously had the shoulder surgery, so he's out. Was at the game Sunday. He's rehabbing in LA, so I'm assuming that's why he was at the game. He was in a box watching the game.


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[Assistant] Uh, we also noticed last night that Joe Burrow also recently coming off surgery was on the Bengals sideline actively involved in helping


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[Assistant] Jake Browning turned in one of the best quarterback performances of the year, if you look statistically.


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[Assistant] Is there a reason that he's not on the sideline with the team? Should we give him a pass for that? Uh, we can't understand why Burrow's doing it, but our guy isn't.


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[Assistant] 10 feet, 15 feet behind the sidelines. And if that happens and Joe Burrow, you know, God forbid, he takes a hit to the wrist or gets re-injured. It's an unnecessary risk that you don't have to take. And I completely agree with you. You have a question, right?


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[Assistant] Alright Mary Kay, real quick, if you had to bet today Denzel Ward play or not play this Sunday?


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[Assistant] And it's, it was highlight go up on the production. S starting this friday. Wo night, a sunday matinee, weekend and then there's week for students. Well,


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[Assistant] You, you posed the question in the text. Yea, cause I hadn't, you know, honestly, I didn't even think about it. So I can't be critical of him, cause I didn't even think about it until I saw Burrow on the sideline. I was like, huh.


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[Assistant] I look at this more as a... They're in the same arm sling, by the way. Right. I look at this more as a positive for Joe Burrow than a negative for Deshaun Watson. Yeaah. I think that's a good way of saying it. I like that Joe Burrow


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow must have, the team probably had the same concern with him that the Browns had with Deshaun, and I think Joe Burrow must have overruled them and said, no, look guys,


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[Assistant] Right. You know, again, you have a veteran quarterback. Joe Flacco doesn't need Deshaun Watson there. I look at this as more like,


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[Assistant] That's awesome by Joe Borrow being down there. He's not moping and saying, oh, woe is me. He's trying to help his quarterback and you saw him a couple of times like cheering and you know, doing that. And I'm sure there were times the camera didn't catch him where he was showing him with the surface. Look, when they give you this look, they're trying, you know, so he helped them. Absolutely. There's no doubt. It's a positive.


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[Assistant] Someone tried to tweet a picture of Chubb on the field. Yea, I know that. Side by side. It was Chubb on the field and Watson in the box. And I think, uh, our photog, Sean saw it and said, no, no, no, that picture of Chubb on the field was taken before the game and for the record.


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[Assistant] It's not about motivating. I agree with Bull, I don't think he would have been a distraction, but I do think you open yourself up to this possibility.


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[Assistant] Snapshots are freeze frames in time. Exactly. Somebody could have taken a picture of Deshaun Watson with a thousand yard stare. Well even there I said he looked miserable. You did.


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[Assistant] Listen, when you're in the public eye, criticism, as long as it's fair criticism, you, listen,


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[Assistant] I can't blame a fan that might want Deshaun Watson on the sideline. Now if you, I'm not going to kill somebody for having that opinion.


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[Assistant] Personally, uh, I don't think it's a big deal. And like I said, I think it's a positive for Burrow more than a negative for Watson. I think we'd all agree. Is it better that he there, that he be there for the public image? Of course.


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[Assistant] You said something that was struck a nerve for me. You said...


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[Assistant] That people, you know, we all want to be people pleasers. Even those that say, I don't give a shit what people think about you. You're lying. You care somewhat. I think to a certain extent,


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[Assistant] These guys can drive themselves crazy if they're in the people pleasing business. Because the famous quote is, you're gonna please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you're never gonna please everybody all the time. Stop trying, you'll make yourself nuts.


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[Assistant] Legitimate. Legitimate. You're right. This is not one of them. Yeaah, I think that's well said. Good, good bow on that.


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[Assistant] If the Browns and Colts were tied at 7 and 5 and there was nobody else in the tiebreaker?


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[Assistant] They would have the tiebreaker, but because there's two other teams, the tiebreaker is not just Browns versus Colts. Right. It's who's got the best record amongst those seven and five teams. And that's how, based on- That's conference record. Right.


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[Assistant] Not best conference record, best head to head within the group. The total. Oh, just with the tied teams. Right. Oh, that's interesting. Yes.


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[Assistant] My god, that was crazy. They held the shot for like 12 seconds. But those guys are non-athletes. You don't see players getting hurt on the sideline. How often does that happen? Obviously, you definitely wouldn't do it with them on crutches, but the other thing is, with one arm in a sling, if there is a collision coming your way,


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Now that was before surgery. Yeaah. So maybe protocol changes after surgery. Cause that's a, I'm glad that, I'm glad that viewer correctly pointed that out.


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[Assistant] Okay, thanks for pointing that out. That's a great show. You really don't? I used to. It was better with K. Adams.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Yeah, although now I'm finding her annoying in all her commercials, which is unfair. She's not doing anything, I'm just finding her annoying.


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[Assistant] You're 39, right? You and Flacco, both born around the same time. Flacco's gonna be 39 in a couple days and he's now leading the Browns.


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[Assistant] How bizarre is it, Joe, that Joe Flacco is the quarterback of the Browns right now? It's gotta be mind-blowing to you.


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[Assistant] Joe, obviously, as you said, the Browns defense, very talented. However, the last couple of weeks, they haven't been as good. Denzel Ward hasn't played, and Miles Garrett now banged up. Obviously, those are the two best players on defense.


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[Assistant] You know, and, and so it hasn't been as good. I mean, did, did you realize, because we didn't realize that how important Denzel Ward is to this defense, because especially with him out, they have not looked the same.


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[Assistant] Speaking of injuries, Joe, I'm curious your take on this. Like, the rules to protect players are better than ever, uh, players are practicing less than ever, yet it seems like


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[Assistant] Uh, there's more injuries than ever. And especially the quarterbacks. I think if C.J. Beathard starts this week for Jacksonville, I think he'd be like the 53rd different starting quarterback. This year maybe 54. It's a new record. I mean, it's just been crazy. What do you make of it? Is it just a freak season or is there something more to it?


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[Assistant] In game type situations and it's just tough to prepare for that. Speaking of injuries, I want you to talk about the tackle play for the Cleveland Browns this year. Obviously they've gone through a number of them. We were talking about Jones, how he's


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[Assistant] I think exceeded his, what, what I had anyhow for his ceiling in his rookie year. Grade the tackles, how they've done this year and what's really been a rough situation for them, uh, just rotating in and all the injuries.


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[Assistant] When Jason Kelsey, I think about this. I, nobody ever talks about it, but I'm curious. Like, on those plays, just, Jason Kelsey's getting the leverage. He must have thousands of pounds of bodies on top of him.


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[Assistant] But Derrick Anderson, that's the best year by a Browns quarterback.


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[Assistant] It wasn't in my contract. Not ready for this. Alright, Joe, we gotta get a game. So, do you want to explain it, Mike? You want me to explain it?


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[Assistant] It's amazing. A lot of bad draft picks after you.


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[Assistant] You aren't kidding. Both an endorsement of you and an indictment on the Browns, many general managers during that stretch. Joe, it's always great having you on, man. The Hall of Famer, Joe Thomas. Joe, join us again soon, okay?


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[Assistant] How about this? They go 5-0. Bull shaves his head on the air. And beard.


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[Assistant] We still live here. We done raised our kids here. Larry Jr. wanted to live here. So it's just a wonderful place, man. We got the best fans in the world and I really love the people here. So yeaah, we still here.


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[Assistant] Because this team is, they have a lot of great players and I think they're really going to do well.


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[Assistant] They are, uhm, you know, it's so much fun watching them, it's way...


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[Assistant] Pete can jump better than he knows. Pete's just learning how well he can jump though. So yea, he's done some stuff that really, uh,


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[Assistant] Not for that price. What's that? Not for that 4.05 million, you know.


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[Assistant] I'm saying it makes it easier to run because the stroller is designed to literally part the wind. It's like drafting in NASCAR. The runner is drafting behind the stroller.


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[Assistant] Has UCSS and her appearances around us brought out some more of the personality side of Mary Kay? Cause even from her first hits last year to now, I feel like I've seen a little bit more, she shows a little more personality.


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[Assistant] The first topic though today guys, DTR will be making his second start, his second real start. We can throw Baltimore out the window.


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[Assistant] Okay, third start, whatever, you win ball, it's a third start, you're right, it technically is a third start, but I don't look at it like that, but either way, we saw it last week and you said it on Monday's post game show.


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[Assistant] The Browns played a dangerous game against Paceburg and they played it beautifully. And now let's on tape.


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[Assistant] So looking ahead, Denver knows what they did with DTR, how Kevin Stefanski designed plays, 39 of his 43 passes within 10 yards of line of scrimmage.


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[Assistant] They're gonna have their adjustments. So how does Kevin Stefanski in this round's offense adjust? And I'll use the word unlock or unleash.


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[Assistant] How does the Browns offense adjust to unlock DTR against Denver?


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[Assistant] I know anything about his future, what he can or can't do based on that game. And that's fair. I agree. That's fair.


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[Assistant] The analytics are not kind to the Broncos. No. Well, the whole, and we'll get to this in the five pack and make nuggets, but how much Miami skewed all the Denver metrics, but it was in terms of success combined with their conversion rate. So how often they got field in the first four plays. So you saw what I was talking about. It could not be more. Right.


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[Assistant] So Cleveland is, I'm sure I can find it, I'll pull it up in a sec.


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[Assistant] But Cleveland is, since the tracking era started of it, I believe the highest conversion rate on getting teams off the field within the first, not three and out, but within the first four plays. And Denver is dead last. Denver only had one three and out in like a two week stretch.


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[Assistant] Well, he's just, he's like an actual IQ. Take football out of the equation. I mean, he was a rocket scientist in Tennessee and went back and finished his rocket scientist degree. I don't even know what the actual degree is, but.


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[Assistant] And I told you this stat yesterday, Bull, Jason and G, I'm not sure if you heard this, but only five teams in the NFL.


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[Assistant] 27 of the 32 teams, doesn't mean they haven't played in games, but have had their quarterback on the injury report. Only 5 teams, through essentially the halfway point, a little past halfway, but we're not in week 18 or week 16 yet, have had their quarterback on the injury report.


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[Assistant] Go ahead. I got you right here. So, Tua has not been on the injury report yet. So Tua shockingly, with all his concussion history, he's one of the five that he's not.


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[Assistant] Lately, no, but he has not shut up on the injury report. No. Josh Allen has not come out of a game yet. Yep. Right. The Jets have played multiple quarterbacks. Yep. The Patriots have played multiple quarterbacks. So that's two.


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[Assistant] He is not. So he's actually one of those five teams. Yeah. But he just had multiple quarterbacks. Right, right, right. They've played multiple. Lamar has played all season. Yep.


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[Assistant] The Browns have played multiple. The Bengals have played multiple. Steelers have. Steelers have played multiple.


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[Assistant] Jacksonville has not. It's only been Trevor Lawrence. CJ Stroud has not. It's only been CJ Stroud. Well, he came out for two plays, but I'm not counting that. Uh, Indianapolis has played two quarterbacks. Tennessee has played two quarterbacks. That's seven.


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[Assistant] The Chiefs and the Broncos have not. Right.


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[Assistant] In the NFC, Jalen Hurts has been healthy. He's been on the injury report, but he hasn't missed time. Dak's been healthy. Dak has not been on the injury report. He's one of the five that has notched up on the injury report.


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[Assistant] Uh, Sam Howell's been on the injury report, but he hasn't missed time. Yeaah, yeaah. So only the Giants. So the Giants and the NFC. The Lions are the only team in the NFC North. Right.


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[Assistant] This is the division where they've all played different quarterbacks. The Saints. Yep. Jameis has played significant time. Yep. The Falcons split time between Ritter and Heineken. Yep. The Panthers. Andy Dalton started a game. Six. And Baker. Baker's played all the time. Baker didn't miss one game. I don't think so. I'll look that up. Uh, Purdy in and out with the concussion.


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[Assistant] Gino, do you want to count with you? 7, yeaah. And then the Rams and the Cardinals both have played multiple quarterbacks. So that's 9.


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[Assistant] 50 different quarterbacks, and it'll be even more this week with Tim Boyle being 51. Yeah, right. Well, and


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[Assistant] So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL, an official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. As you were saying, Bo Elijah Moore has seen his stock go up the last two weeks. He's been playing his best football of the season. It was a low bar to surpass, but nevertheless he did surpass a low bar.


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[Assistant] It's Black Friday, so I'm gonna ask this way. Are you guys buying stock in Elijah Moore's resurgence within the Browns offense?


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[Assistant] When the season's over at the end of week 17, will Donovan Peoples-Jones still be the fifth leading receiver on the ground?


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[Assistant] Kareem Hunt has 49 yards right now. Jordan Akins to Akins. Yea, how many yards does Tillman have? Like 10.


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[Assistant] 10. What's he have rushing? Harrison Bryant rushing.


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[Assistant] Is it Akins or Atkins? I always pronounce it wrong. Akins, I think it's Akins. Akins says 45 yards.


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[Assistant] What's lower than Minimoski? Because Minimoski feels like what DPJ had. 100 yards in 8 games. And by the way, DPJ got 4 snaps in the Thanksgiving Day game yesterday.


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[Assistant] That's true. And time is the same way. Time is giggles at, uh. Alright, where do you guys go?


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[Assistant] I think tight ends just always seem to be that safety blanket and the route tree that Njoku runs and G pointed this out. I hadn't even noticed this till G pointed it out. He chip blocks and just kind of f- fades out to the flat.


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[Assistant] And it's a dump down, and if he wants, he could probably have 10 catches a game.


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[Assistant] If the quarterback goes through his progression just to dump it off. So you go back and you look at Elijah Moore's, you know, game log.


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[Assistant] He's getting a decent amount of targets, but in joke with 14 targets last game. 14 targets, now he had 4 drops. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] But 14 targets in DTR's second start bowl, if you want to be specific, first start in the Mike Lucas official book, but 14 targets over Elijah Moore had seven last week. I'm going to go with a joke. He just blocks. He just blocks.


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[Assistant] Before we do the draft, a quick reminder that at 12.30 we pivot from YouTube over to WKYC and you can watch us with 30 minutes of never seen before content. And this week...


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[Assistant] It's a little bit of an Ohio State Michigan preview with our guy Tyvis Powell. Tyvis never lost to Michigan during his playing days and he says he will never pick this game wrong. He correctly predicted Michigan to win last year and he's trying to keep his streak alive.


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[Assistant] This season. So we're going to have a surprise by that to see if he could keep that streak going. But from 1230 to one, we are over on WKYC. And if you're not in Cleveland, you can watch on the WKYC app or the WKYC plus that makes you guys tune in for that bullets. Have ourselves a little draft here.


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[Assistant] You did not have to send it because for the TV show, I need you all to send it beforehand for the YouTube one. I like doing it on the fly.


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[Assistant] We've adapted. Just like Kevin Stephans is going to adapt the game plan this week. We've adapted to figure things out. But okay, Miles Garrison is number one. That was easy. The rest of this gets in. I think there's a pretty clear cut number two. Then after that, I think it's.


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[Assistant] Zoss Gartner? Remember when he traded for DTR?


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[Assistant] Okay, so we have Miles Garrett, and then we have Russell Wilson.


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[Assistant] So Mari Cooper's four, so the first four picks, it's a 2-2 split, Browns, Broncos, Miles Garrett one, Russell Wilson two, Pat Sertan three, and a Mari Cooper four, which is interesting by the way, before we get to five, that's a quarterback and the guy chasing down the quarterback.


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[Assistant] And a wide receiver DB matchup, which we're going to see. I'm assuming a lot because Pat Sertan follows receivers as much as any other DB in the league. So he's unlike some cornerbacks who just play the left side of the right side. Pat Sertan shadows receivers. So we're going to see a ton of them. I would guess we're going to see a ton of them.


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[Assistant] Can I tell you guys a quick Courtland Sutton story real quick? So he's from Brenham High School in Texas. SMU.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, SMU is in Dallas. He went to SMU though. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Um, was the cubs and it was a team I covered when I was covering Texas high school football.


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[Assistant] For a team that was as good as they were, the Cubs and their mascot was a, was a Care Bear? You know ever Care Bears?


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[Assistant] I'm actually gonna go with JLK here. Slightly above Teller.


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[Assistant] Seven. Okay, it was six, but I think Teller and Hopkins are literally the next two I have on my list. Outside of MJ Emerson, who's also, just give you guys my list.


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[Assistant] The last four I had, if this is going off me, but you guys vote.


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[Assistant] I had Emerson next, then I had Hopkins at 8. Alright. And then Meyers and Teller at 9, 10 and you could tell me one's 9, one's 10.


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[Assistant] So we had Miles Garrett 1, Russell Wilson 2.


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[Assistant] Pat Sertan 3, Amari Cooper 4, Cortland Sutton 5, Jok 6. So we're at a 3-3 split through 6 picks.


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[Assistant] I love you all, but it's Hopkins time. And only because I think Teller and Marenez are right there. So let's put those two back to back next and we can switch their order if you want, but let's go Teller then Marenez.


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[Assistant] Be like, you forgot this person. And I ask him, well, make your own list.


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[Assistant] It's a lot tougher than it comes out to be. Here's our top 10. We'll start from the top 10. Let's start with Miles Garrett was the unanimous number 1. Russell Wilson 2. Pat Sertan 3. Amari Cooper 4. Cortland Sutton 5. Jok at 6.


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[Assistant] Switch it when you're ready yet. Joe K at 6, Dustin Hopkins at 7, Wyatt Teller at 8, Quinn Marinese at 9.


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[Assistant] I was thinking the, the cart, not the cart, no, it was the rams. The only guy in the rams you'd take, or maybe two, but Pooka and Cooper Cubs.


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[Assistant] So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. That is FanDuel.com slash UCSS. FanDuel, an official partner of the NFL, an official partner of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Earlier in the show, we showed you a, we showed you a winning ticket, excuse me, that turned $4 into $518. This week or today, I have a ticket from Akron Gray Day.


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[Assistant] Giant same-game parlay. Tobias Harris, Jared Allen, Max Deuce, Darius Garland, D'Anthony Melton, Evan Mobley. Tobias Harris rebounds.


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[Assistant] Alright, we got a six pack of McNugget stats here for you, and Steve, we could actually go to...


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[Assistant] All the way down, starts at 161. We talked about the first one on Monday, but I wanted to be part of this clip on YouTube, so we're gonna mention it again.


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[Assistant] Jason brought this up, so actually this is not a McNuggets stat, this is a Jason stat, but the Browns have done a phenomenal job this season of essentially gassing out their opponents. The Browns as a team.


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[Assistant] I've run 182 more plays this season than their opponent. That's number one in the NFL by a wide margin. Number two is Dallas who's run 92 more plays. That was before yesterday's game, by the way. So the number may be a tiny bit out, but there's no way they ran over a hundred plays more than Washington yesterday. Cleveland defense leads the NFL in three and outs.


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[Assistant] And in average, NFL game, defensive run about 63 plays. So essentially, the Browns opponents have played three more games against them.


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[Assistant] Then they've played and we've seen a lot of comebacks. We've seen a lot of success in the fourth quarter from the Browns. I think a large part of that is due to how tired defenses are come fourth quarter time because they've been on the field essentially for an extra 17, 18% than the Browns defense has.


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[Assistant] Next one, we talked about this a little earlier, but I think a key this week is keeping it simple for DTR. We mentioned it in the first topic, but 39 of his 43 passes were 10 or fewer yards in the air.


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[Assistant] His time to throw in different situations was incredible. Kevin Stefanski designed the ball to get out of his hands almost immediately. In a clean pocket under two seconds. When he was blitzed under two seconds. When he wasn't blitzed.


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[Assistant] Uh, 2.26, which is still way under the league average and when pressured, it's cause he scrambles. So it actually makes it, the time go up a little bit cause he holds it there and scrambles and he's looking for more time. Uh, three seconds.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's me. That's a hand up my bad, bad job on me there. They were under 39 of 43 were under 10 yards. But essentially the point here is Kevin Stefanski designed a game plan to get the ball out of his hands incredibly quick for two reasons.


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[Assistant] Make it easy for DTR and 2. That negates TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith. Going against two backup tackles. How do you negate a pass rush more than having faith in Dewan Jones and Jaron Christian? You don't give them time to get to the quarterback.


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[Assistant] I think Szymanski deserves a lot of credit for that and I would not be surprised even if they do reinvent themselves a little bit like G alluded to earlier that this is still kind of the general premise for how to have success with DTR on the road to Denver.


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[Assistant] I don't remember where. Uh, he's with Josh Dobbs in Minnesota.


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[Assistant] Benito was a guy who was on the same defensive line at Oklahoma as Perry on Winfrey. They came in the same draft class. The other guy, Jonathan Cooper, not too familiar.


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[Assistant] No, in the thirties, in the thirties, which is weird because he only gave up two pressures, but with the timing, PFF, we're not too sure. Alright, next stat for you.


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[Assistant] It's Denver minus Miami. Now before I tell you the actual numbers, the Miami game was a catastrophe for Denver. They gave up 70 points, they lost 70 to 20.


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[Assistant] And right now, if you look at Denver's defensive numbers across the board for season totals, they're near the bottom in everything, including rushing yards. So you have 160 rushing yards this season that is dead last in the NFL. However,


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[Assistant] At home in the last 3 weeks, they've been much better, but much better from worse is still bottom 10 in the league. You can definitely run against this defense, and I do expect the Browns to run the ball a lot in this game. If you look at points per game right now, they average


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[Assistant] Uh, opposing teams are averaging 26.8 points per game against, and that's 30th. But if you take out the Miami game, and granted that was the worst game, and it's not fair to take out one game, but just to see where they've ranked, if that's more of an anomaly, and it kinda does.


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[Assistant] I'm just giving you a context of how this defense has performed in nine of ten games since Miami game. Which once again is middle of the pack. Last season they were one of the best defenses in football. This year they've taken a major step back, but that one game skews the numbers more than if you just take a snapshot. So you take out the Miami game, they've played nine games, the average giving up 21 points per game, 15th in the league, which is dead smack in the middle. And the seven games after Miami.


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[Assistant] They're averaging, giving up 17 points. So it's more, what have you done for me lately? The defense has been okay. It's not great.


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[Assistant] But it's not as bad as the overall picture of the 30th ranked defense in the league looks when you look at the overall context.


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[Assistant] We got three more, so we're gonna go through, and this one we can fly through real quick. We touched on the turnovers earlier. The Browns, as we know, have a minus five turnover differential this season. The Broncos have the fourth best turnover differential. They're at plus six this season.


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[Assistant] He, uh, he let me know that since week 6, the Broncos rank in the bottom 5 in the NFL in percentage of drives ending in a score that start in their own field position. So if there's not a turnover and they have to go...


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[Assistant] And quarterbacks is where we go with the next one. How about the Browns being cardiac kids this season? So far this year in 2023, they have four game winning drives from quarterbacks. That's the same amount they had in total.


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[Assistant] From 2020 to 2022 since Kevin Stefanski has been the head coach and then it was three different quarterbacks. And for the first time since Kevin Stefanski has been the head coach of the Cleaver Browns, Brown's quarterbacks have a higher yards per attempt and completion percentage in the second half of games than they do in the first half of games.


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[Assistant] Alright, last one. This is a little homage to your guy Bull A-Rod. I mean, Dustin Hopkins. Dustin Hopkins is a scoring machine. This season alone, he's responsible for 93 points. In 10 games, that's 9.3 points per game. The Browns' single season record for points from a kicker is Phil Dawson with 120. Cleveland's all-time record, any season, any position,


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[Assistant] It's Jim Brown, who had 126 in 1965. Now boy, you're gonna say...


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[Assistant] Dustin Hopkins would be ahead of Jim Brown on an offensive stat category for the Cleveland Browns. I tell you you're.


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[Assistant] First one comes from Curtis Thomas, who's celebrating his one year anniversary as a member. Thank you, Curtis.


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[Assistant] He says, boys, I love the show so much so that my girlfriend says I watch it like you guys are all my friends or something. Well, Curtis, you know what? You are a friend. You're a friend, Curtis.


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[Assistant] Sean Cassidy says Brown should look to sign backup cornerback Hugh Janus from the Texans practice squad with the ward injury.


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[Assistant] Devoid Archangel says, if I remember correctly, that was the first time in franchise history the Browns beat the Ravens, the Steelers in back to back weeks. Kevin Robinson says, is it me or is Geron Christian outplayed Jed Wills?


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[Assistant] And Ray Smith, uh, Kevin, we talked about it a little while ago. And Ray Smith said it's nice to be confident in our Browns, not cocky, but losing that negative feeling on Sundays is great. Cool head mafia, go Browns. So, there you go. Hey, listen.


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[Assistant] They'll call me and I'll come pick you back up. I hate it when my mom say you was sick. She implemented one of the most gross rules of all time. If you didn't go to school, you couldn't watch TV.


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[Assistant] You couldn't play no video games. You couldn't be on the phone. You couldn't even go outside on the sidewalk. So I just started saying, bro, like, man, if I could make it to mid-game.


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[Assistant] Listen, I might as well just make it to halfway and do what I wanna do, but I'm not gonna be at the home. Our house just quarantined, like, looking around. And for some reason I felt like she made terrible meals when I was sick.


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[Assistant] I'm from Canton. I didn't know the east or the west. And I woke up this morning and my wife drives like, she's like 96 with two, like she has a booster chair.


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[Assistant] I'ma let you know right now, I ain't for, I ain't for getting after people, but I'm all for cancellation culture. If you coming out here to talk about Miles Garrett, you don't want to play, I'm gonna do everything in my power to get you guys.


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[Assistant] Enact a G-14 classified plan for Miles Garrett. Uh-oh. Uh-oh, what's that?


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[Assistant] This is called, this is called Catch Me If You Can.


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[Assistant] He's fallen off after the last couple of years after like game 12 or game 10 or 11 or whatever the case may be. That's the stat going around? Man, look.


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[Assistant] That's because they got three guys on them. Yeah, I would too after you had 13 sacks. I'd be like, look, I'm going to put a tail back on you. I got a tight end on you. I got to, we slide that way.


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[Assistant] And sometimes even Jim Shorts, sometimes even coordinators, it is very intoxicating when you have a defensive line that can get home just by rushing for and doing nothing, nothing big.


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[Assistant] Yes it is, like, and you can do a lot of things in the back end because you're afforded that opportunity. But, you also have to understand that, yeaah, it's intoxicating for me and it's really good, it really feels good to just rush forward and do this basic stuff.


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[Assistant] But it wears you guys down. They know where you're coming from. Now today, he might have to go back and reinvigorate and pull some of the stuff off the playbook. That's that off. And say we gotta have basketball on Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] Last few weeks he hasn't moved at all. Yeaah. I haven't seen the three defensive line, I haven't seen the, the, the, the, I call it the Greyhound package. Yeaah. I haven't seen Oboe, Zedaria Smith, Miles Garrett, and what's his name?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. We haven't seen those before defensive end pass rush. We've been basically getting Miles Garrett on the end and


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[Assistant] You know, Ty, there's one thing I-I-I-I went in and all 22 came out. And it just seems like, uhm, Mark Cooper's not runnin'.


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[Assistant] Kevin Safanski with the other quarterbacks is winning a lot of stick plays.


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[Assistant] He loves, he loves spacers and floods and sticks. So it's just, you know, you go downfield, turn around six, seven yards and hopefully DTR sees you.


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[Assistant] He's not running your classic, okay, let's throw a 15 yard dig.


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[Assistant] I ain't seen a post on a corner in years. Is it to keep it simple? Yeah, I think that's it. I mean, yeah, that's gotta be.


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[Assistant] See, that's the thing, like, high school kids know that.


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[Assistant] I just, you know, and here's the thing with all these injuries, I always want to say this, hopefully we can take a snapshot of this for all the Browns fans out there.


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[Assistant] Every off season, we're gonna do this exercise, right? We do it. It's gonna happen again. Somebody's gonna be available.


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[Assistant] You're gonna see it that it's a name of somebody that played once upon a time that used to be good. You're going to say, we don't need any names because we have


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[Assistant] When we sitting here right now, if you got Pierre Strong running reverses, you don't have anybody.


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[Assistant] You don't have any receivers. You have one receiver, really. So when we get to the off season, I would love for you not to tell me.


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[Assistant] Let me, let me give you an example. This is the coldest example y'all ever gonna get, so just go ahead and just book it. Listen, it's like this.


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[Assistant] If you got an event, right, and you want somebody to come emcee it and somebody cancels on you, right? They cancel last moment. You can either go get Jay or Bull, right?


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[Assistant] You say, well I don't agree with their opinions all the time. Doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] See, they've done enough shows where it don't matter what you can be at. They could be at a car lot. They could be at somebody's birthday party. They could be giving away raffle tickets. They know.


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[Assistant] Basically what the rundown is, I'ma get to the title, let me repeat, let me get to my other different things and do my announcements and they can come in sight unseen, don't even know what you talking about. And because they got the experience level, they can make it go seamless. Like that was a great job. Like how long did you know you were going to do this? Five minutes ago.


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[Assistant] That's, that's the Joe Flacco. If you wanna go get somebody else, now no disrespect, if you pull me up there, I'm like, look, I'm gonna give you five solid minutes and a bunch of analogies. You might wanna get one of these two to do it. That's DTR.


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[Assistant] I'm freelancing. I'm going out here. Hey, I saw something over here. I'm rolling out of the pocket. Sometimes you don't want to be rolling out of the pocket like that. You need somebody that's going to give you A, B, C, D, and Joe Flacco going to give you that. He might not put 300 yards up, but he sure as heck will get you through the event.


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[Assistant] And, uh, yes. Nah, she be, they done got her off the soup because she the only child.


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[Assistant] I agree. But I believe DTR needs a personalized plan. If he can't practice his plan, that's a problem.


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[Assistant] If they are one impact linebacker away on the other side from them truly being. Like San Francisco's.


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[Assistant] He threw the touchdown pass. I thought he did a good job of putting some air on him. Touchdown pass. The linebacker got his hands in real late to late last second.


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[Assistant] Alright, based on what Kim, Cedric, told me, I'm ready to say that David Bell is not good.


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[Assistant] I give it to him. Red got tough skin. Bull asked him some crazy questions the last time he was here. Heard you was in club, dawg!


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[Assistant] We had Braylon, we had Braylon Evers for one year. When you look at it, this is how bad it is. What's the tight end that we, uh,


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[Assistant] He's, he's like in our top 10 for top 10 seasons. Gary Barnage. Gary Barnage is in the top 10.


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[Assistant] For Cleveland Brown's seasons of receptions and yards all time.


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[Assistant] I love that. That, that is definitely 75% purse. That is not a purse. That's a purse!


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, you know, I was watching the game and the first thing that jumped out to me was Denzel Ward not being there. Uhm, you know, listen, you know, Greg Newsome had a little bit of a tough game, tough matchup with Courtney Sutton and I just think, you know,


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[Assistant] The defense is just different when you don't have a Denzel Ward and you can put Greg Newsom in the slot. Now it's obviously Martin Emerson. Uhm, what is his, uh, you know, what is his status for this game? Will he play or is he going to be out a couple more weeks?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, what do you make of all the drops? Uhm, we saw Mark Cooper drop one, and I know it was a little bit low. Uhm, David Ajoku has had some issues the last couple of weeks. Uhm, Cedric Tillman caught the football, but we still haven't seen David Bell or some of these other guys.


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[Assistant] You know, where they gonna get this production from, from the receiving corps, especially with Amari Cooper being banged up a little bit?


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[Assistant] I agree. Hey, we the most victory lap having fanbases in the world. Like, we do the, I, once again, you always say other fanbases are just as bad as us.


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[Assistant] Well, man, we can't agree on nothing, bro. We can't, like, we can't, like, if you say Josh Dobbs would have been, nah, he wasn't that good. It's like, he's not that good, but he's a good backup. It's factions on everything. Like, there's not just one consistency.


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[Assistant] But like, it's not like if they went to the Super Bowl, you're not gonna be sitting there rooting for the person. Right, right, right. He's wearing, like, listen, people may or not have thought Baker was the greatest quarterback or whatever.


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[Assistant] He didn't write them, but he did good job acting. Anthony got a little Baker Mayfield in him too. Like if you look real quick with the beard, like you should be like this. He got a little.


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[Assistant] And you got there in like five minutes and the guy was talking, I think maybe it was Steve Sable, he was talking about how much of a savant you were in picking up a playbook and you had to pick the playbook up in like a day and you studied for like 24 hours straight.


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[Assistant] So I think it's a great segue. You know, Joe Flacco might be, uh, playing this week. How the heck does a veteran quarterback learn a whole new system and call audibles in like 24 hours?


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[Assistant] You know, when you get a rookie quarterback, and they're new, uhm, they're, the game is moving fast, people are coming at them. How did you get out of...


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[Assistant] How did you get to a point where you, like, you was like, I gotta go through them progressions?


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[Assistant] You know, today, and Jay talks about this a little bit, and I think it's coming around. Like, everything under the sun, there's nothing new under the sun. You know, the system's in, it's cyclical, sometimes you're throwing a ball and doing those things. But even go back to your time.


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[Assistant] The Buffalo Bills went to four Super Bowls, right? One of the greatest, the K-Gun offense, you look at what Warren Moon in Houston was doing, um, Jerry Glanville and a lot of those teams.