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[Assistant] I'm less worried about the physical, and I'm actually gonna let Earl chime in here, cause we talked a little bit about this on Behind the Glass today. We learned that Sean was going out. You know, it happened Wednesday morning, we talked about it on the show, but, Earl brought up a really good point on Behind the Glass, I'm gonna turn the camera and let him talk on it, about...


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[Assistant] The mental process that Sean's gonna have to overcome getting back from this injury as opposed to just the physical side of things.


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[Assistant] What I would say- Kenny Pickett did, and you're right, he's not 14 of 14, he had a 156.3 QB rating in the last 4 minutes of a game when they were down by score tied, which is essentially perfect.


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[Assistant] I, I, jeez, it wasn't 14 to 14, but he also was really good when it mattered most and sucked the rest of the game.


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[Assistant] Well, we're going to talk quarterbacks and quarterback tiers ironically next, but first a quick reminder that once again, no show tomorrow. There will be a behind the glass at 11, the barbershop today at


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[Assistant] Three o'clock and then on Friday we're back for a YouTube show plus a TV show. You can find us on Channel 3 from 12.30 to 1 with 30 more minutes of content previewing the Browns. Broncos game also sprinkling a little Ohio State Michigan content because the games this weekend to undefeated teams should be a lot of fun.


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[Assistant] All right, so we talked about tiers and I didn't necessarily ask it in this sense, but I'm going to kind of pivot the question. I'll ask it the same way. And then you guys can put each of these guys into tiers, but the Sean Watson has a big contract.


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[Assistant] Which quarterback would you rather have moving forward? Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's tie the start. We'll go around the whole game.


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[Assistant] 25 and 6 is last year in Seattle. 25 touchdown 6 picks? 6 interceptions, yeaah.


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[Assistant] And he can help us determine if Russell Wilson could be a better option than Deshaun Watson. But first, FanDuel is America's number one sportsbook and you can score early this NFL season with FanDuel right now. New customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 Moneyline bet that's $150 if your team wins.


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[Assistant] Has spreads, player props, over-unders, and much, much more. And the best part, it is simple and easy to use. So visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. That is FanDuel.com.


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[Assistant] Slash UCSS fans, an official partner of the NFL, an official partner of the ultimate Cleveland sports show with that. It's welcoming Cody work of lockdown Broncos who knows a little something about Russell Wilson, maybe more than Tivus who played with Russell. So what's up Cody? Thanks for joining us today.


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[Assistant] Let's do it guys! As you guys know, after the...


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[Assistant] I did my best to keep a poker face, cause I was watching the, well I was watching the Jumbotron, and she was watching, cause our TVs were actually synced up.


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[Assistant] But I was watching the Jumbotron, which is a minute and a half ahead of TV, so I did my best. No it's not. Yea it is. It's not a minute and a half. Wait, you was at the game? No, but I can see the Jumbotron from my apartment.


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[Assistant] It's tough, it's tough, but we have fun. It is the number one post game show in all of Cleveland, and we go for about an hour, hour and a half. Each time we read Super Chats, we do the whole nine yards, talk about everything that needs to be discussed in the aftermath, and no one's better at doing it than G and Earl, and I just play point guard, so appreciate those guys. Tune in if you haven't checked it out, and we appreciate y'all.


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[Assistant] Last night bowl, I'm glad that we're all here today because of all of our eyes.


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[Assistant] Everyone here, everyone watching at home, if you turn onto the Cavaliers game last night, you may need like a 48 hour rest from any screen because of how ugly the 76ers court was. Thank goodness the Cavs were able to pull it out. Craig Porter Jr. played a massive game. And if you want to pull up to the game montage, uh, Steve, which is number 196.


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[Assistant] Craig, Craig Porter Jr. Yeah. Has not just been a summer league sensation. He's come in and he gets 50 games as part of a two-way contract before the Cavs have to sign him off the G League to a full one-way NBA contract.


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[Assistant] He's making a push to not just play legitimate regular season minutes. And it's to really think playoff rotations yet. But he brings an element to the Cavs that they don't have elsewhere. And what he's done in three games.


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[Assistant] You can see long term it wasn't sustainable. What Craig Porter Jr. does-


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[Assistant] But it's not like he's making shots. Right now he's getting to the rim and doing what he's always done. Which is why I do think what he is doing is sustainable. Two things that stand out. One, he's the only guy in the perimeter.


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[Assistant] That even gives it half-ass effort on defense, which the Cavs desperately need. And two, he's a tenacious attacker of the rim, and he's not just looking for his shot. And some guys, and G, you know this,


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[Assistant] All they wanna do is get to the rim, put up a shot, pray it goes in. He drives and he's actually looking a dish. And last night, the game-winning bucket, which was a Jared Allen floater,


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[Assistant] He attacks Embiid, makes Embiid make a decision, Embiid steps up, dumps it to Allen for the game winning shot. And he's made a couple decisions in crunch time, not just up 30 against the Nuggets in the fourth quarter with eight minutes left. I'm talking the tie game of overtime yesterday, where it really makes you think.


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[Assistant] This dude could legitimately ball, and it's not just a mirage from early season, regular season play. He can really play.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go through every player who played yesterday and their plus minus for the Cavs. You ready? Yea. Dean Wade, minus 12.


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[Assistant] Of course, inhibiting a guy like Tyrese Maxey who's really good at attacking, which forces Alan Mobley to step up. Garland, bless his soul. It's not a defensive threat whatsoever. He's kind of an OLA guy.


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[Assistant] He plays defense and he makes a smart basketball play. And I know he's a smaller guy, he's not a great shooter. Well, at the end of the day, if you give me enough guys to make my basketball play, who do I what?


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[Assistant] Dean Wade's contract, three years, 19 million. Alright, still bad. I don't know why. I mean, he's...


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[Assistant] They have one quick, I just did the math, they have four, the Cavs have four playoff series wins without LeBron.


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[Assistant] No, that's not true. He has, but it's baby steps. And we expect it, especially in year three.


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[Assistant] If this guy was gonna be the cornerstone part of your franchise that you thought he could be, you needed to see more from where he was last year to where he is today.


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[Assistant] It's on him. Listen, great players, and then you go bull. But great players, if you make the step necessary,


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[Assistant] Pretty, listen, he's a good defensive player. You thought he'd be, did you think he'd be an all-star by now? I thought he'd be in the conversation to be an all-star and he's not in the conversation.


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[Assistant] He's a very good def- he's a good defensive player. I think he's still got room to grow, but he's a good defensive player. But offensively-


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[Assistant] Here's the thing with Evan Mobley and I cannot stress this enough, he is an elite help defender.


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[Assistant] An elite help defender. He is not an elite point of attack defender. I score well at him on the rim.


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter? I apologize. Why does that not matter? Well I guess my point is- I'M A LOCK! Well you've been in a game and this is any level of basketball.


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[Assistant] And let's say you're picking teams, right? Yeah. Yeah. And someone's the fourth pick and they start making shots. Eventually you just start feeding them the ball naturally. Cause you know, they.


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[Assistant] I don't care if you have Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, Tyrese Matt, you name any of the guards. If they trust the big man to throw the ball and he's going to be able to get a bucket.


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[Assistant] The ball goes to the big man. I'm telling you. And I've watched 14 games. I've watched last season. You could tell me they don't try to centralize the offense around him enough. They run too much pick and roll. All that's probably true.


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[Assistant] But I've played enough basketball in my life to know that if a player is good enough where the guys trust him to do something with it, he's going to get the ball. The only players they don't pass the ball to are guys you don't trust to do anything with it. And we've hit enough of a sample size now to where I just don't think the guards or the coaching staff trust in Evan Mobley to do a damn thing when he gets the ball unless it's dunk.


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[Assistant] It's all variations of different pick and rolls. That's it. It's just, it's different variations, different ways to get into it. But we're gonna spend way more time on the Cavs coming up. We gotta talk a little Ohio State here and Jay Stevens today.


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[Assistant] You can apply online at precast.com and slash careers to learn more. Ohio state, Michigan this weekend. And that means Jay Stevens is here to help us preview the big game. What's up, Jay?


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[Assistant] Not sure if those are just precautionary. Some veterans have been getting days off on Wednesdays. So, uh, cool.


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[Assistant] Alright, we got super chats and we missed a couple yesterday because we had to wrap up. Before we do that, we have a jingle from our boy, our guy Eddie. Yeah, we haven't heard from Eddie in a while.


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[Assistant] Alright, super chats, y'all ready? These are from yesterday, we apologize, didn't get a chance to read them.


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[Assistant] Simple says can we keep rocking the white face masks? Gee.


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[Assistant] Charles T said the Browns have dealt with a chub injury. They lost their right tackle, left tackle, starting quarterback.


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[Assistant] Next up, Chosen Cartel says if Watson stays mentally strong, he'll be alright.


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[Assistant] Young Majestic also says, you guys talk too much about stats, it's only about wins. Quarterbacks adapt to win games, stats don't matter.


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[Assistant] Next up, Corey McLaughlin says, 10 days later, butthurt Raven fans are still here. He said that two days in a row. Shout out to Corey and shout out to Raven fans who are still here another day later. SCR says,


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[Assistant] Uh, in terms of, I think this is the Ohio State game.


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[Assistant] He doesn't clarify. I think this is Ohio State, but SCR says, this will be a blowout. We had a linebacker playing running back last year and there was a lot of finger point in common bowl. Two of those losses are very, very tainted.


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[Assistant] Think he's talking about Ohio State? Yeaah. And then last one comes from Colin Keith. Says bull.


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[Assistant] You're out of pocket for taking Wilson over Watson. Gee, I appreciate you forever being the optimist. Thivis, I need you to help Gee get his sneaker game right.


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[Assistant] And I just saw this, Dashawn has 8, Flacco has 9 in Brown Stadium.


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[Assistant] But, uh, I talked about in our series is all football aside, all occupation aside, because we know Deshaun Watson as a football player, man to man, I'm worried about his mental health.


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[Assistant] If you think about everything that this dude has been through on and off the football field over the last three years, it just got me to thinking about that side of things. Like, what's his state of mind like? What's his emotional stability like? And as men, like,


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[Assistant] We already carry the weight of the world on our shoulders. We already deal with so much in this world, like on a day to day basis. You say as men? As men. Just let's, boy, let me finish. Alright. And I think that when, when, when you continue to go through things, every time you get knocked down and you continue to pick yourself back up and it's like, damn, here's something else that's coming.


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[Assistant] It can weigh on you, and I know a lot of people, man, who's had things weigh on them to the point to where they took themselves a body here.


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[Assistant] And so, like, I just hope Deshaun Watson know, like, your life is valuable and yeaah, your career is a, is a NFL football player, man, but you work so much more than that. Just continue to pick yourself back up because as Tyvis alluded to.


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[Assistant] Like, a lot of it is mental, and sometimes the mental ain't got nothing to do with what you do for a living. It just got to do with your everyday life.


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[Assistant] But I don't know how much of an issue it is by the time we get to Sunday. You know, maybe he'll be okay by then. We're not gonna know a whole lot about it until we get out there on


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[Assistant] Well, he has played for Bill Callahan before. He was drafted by Washington in the third round when Bill Callahan was there. So Bill Callahan has a familiarity with him and he has 16 starts under his belt. So this is a player who's been around. Uh, he is a, you know, six year veteran.


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[Assistant] So he underwent an MRI yesterday as well, but you know, it's nothing too, too bad right now. So good for him because they will need him on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then Juan Thornhill, he also walked out in a boot with a calf injury.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm pretty confident. I think this is a football team right now. When I look out at the Cleveland Browns, I think this is a team that can beat anyone. I really do. I think that all they have to do is get into the tournament. And I think there are a lot of teams in the NFL that would want no part of the Cleveland Browns, especially defensively.


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[Assistant] Now I think they have an elite quarterback that can match up with their elite defense. And I do think the sky is the limit for this team this season.


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[Assistant] In the AFC North, I mean, this is a tiebreaker situation. You need to have this. You've already been beaten once by the Steelers, so you want the head to head tiebreaker, and you need the division tiebreaker. There are so many reasons it's an important game, and it could also be, by Sunday afternoon,


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[Assistant] Is killing me. I'm gonna run, uh, 16 yards for a first down and really, really help Dustin Hopkins get in position for this game winning kick. So that's the one I'm gonna give it to.


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[Assistant] That, you know, they're not going to back down to TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith and Cam Hayward and all of the great defenders that the Pittsburgh Steelers have.


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[Assistant] Okay, it starts with, I'm gonna start with Kevin Stefanski. He took this team to the Greenbrier for team bonding and camaraderie and I really feel like a lot of it started there where they really developed a kinship and a brotherhood there.


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[Assistant] So that was that, you know, then they did the same thing. They went to Philadelphia and they spent, uh, you know, several, four or five days in Philadelphia.


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[Assistant] And uhm, you know, they got really close-knit there. In the offseason, uh, Deshaun Watson was hosting offensive passing camps and, you know, they were going to,


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[Assistant] Uh, on top of that, uh, you know, you bring in players, you bring in players that just have this inherent leadership about them and a fire and an energy about them.


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[Assistant] And before you know it, uh, you've got, uh, you know, a team that's playing with their hair on fire and that's what's going on here. When you bring in the, the Zedaria Smiths and the Oboe Okoronquos and the Juan Thornhills and you throw them into that defense, it's like,


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[Assistant] Throwing gasoline onto a fire and seeing it just take off. I mean, these guys are having fun together. They're, they're cheering each other on. They're playing together.


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[Assistant] And I think there's something very, very special about this football team.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that, that's tough, you know. I, I don't know, they don't have a ton of other candidates right now. So, you know, they might have to stick with him a little bit.


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[Assistant] Good or great. You've got to create good field position. You can't fumble. You can't miss an extra point.


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[Assistant] Uh, he, he's just, uh, one of those guys that just runs through a wall every single day and he's out there obviously doing the best he can. And yes, occasionally, uh, you will get beat one-on-one by Odell Beckham Jr. because Odell is a, you know, he's a three-time pro bowler and he's going to make his plays.


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[Assistant] Well, I'll tell you what, he's the touchdown maker. That was the fifth game, uh, in which he has scored a touchdown. And when, when you get him on the goal line, uh, he's gonna get in there. He's gonna, he's gonna pound it in there. He's a bruiser.


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[Assistant] have an opportunity to go through what he went through, to be out of football, once again, not knowing if he's going to get back in and to be here for his hometown team knowing


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[Assistant] The individual agility drills and looking really good. So you have to give him credit for showing up. Availability is so vitally important and now you're seeing him getting stronger and better.


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[Assistant] Man, I had to come in, I had to pull up on y'all, man. Yeah. Unacceptable. You was furious. Yeah, unacceptable. That's just what we're gonna say to start with.


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[Assistant] Just like Tyvis said, you know, a lot of times y'all call me the Duke of knee jerk, but a lot of times my crystal ball is right. At the time, the way I say it, it may give you a little panic.


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[Assistant] Because when I said a couple weeks ago that


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[Assistant] There has to be a reason why they're not doing anything. And one of my theories was, they've already been guaranteed that they're gonna get another year.


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[Assistant] And all the tea leaves point to the fact that they're gonna get another year because


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[Assistant] They essentially punted on the season again. Like this is two punts in a row. Like, and I'm not saying that to be funny. I'm just saying it in terms of looking at it from a quarterback perspective.


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[Assistant] There's no way you can have any sort of confidence that Deshaun Watson is A, going to come back and B, his Houston form this year.


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[Assistant] B. Be able to come back and sustain hits and carry out the duties of quarterback. And C.


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[Assistant] So if you have all that information at your hands and you also have PJ Walker and the statistics show that he's turning the ball over at a rapid pace,


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[Assistant] It's inexcusable for you not to go get another quarterback because you're just telling your fan base that you really don't care about winning. And I told Bulldice, I said, we'll see how, I'm going to gauge what they do at this break to see whether or not they really want to win.


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[Assistant] When you look at other teams like the 49ers going out and getting Chase Young and giving up assets to go get them, you know, that's what I call trying to go all the way in and win big time. And so for me, I was just disappointed for not only


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, just, just the people in the locker room. I was disappointed by the fa- for the fans because...


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[Assistant] You gotta realize, they've been selling you this, they've been doing this every single year.


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[Assistant] Yes, you want to have a big time approach and you want to look at the totality of everything.


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[Assistant] You want to make sure that you're fiscally responsible. You also want to make sure that you can field a good team for the, not today, but for the long haul. But the problem with that is if you, the macro is cool, but the micro really affects people in the locker room. If I'm Miles Garrett, and I have that level of talent,


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[Assistant] And I've been putting out that level of talent through bad teams, through coaches, through all this good stuff. And I see PJ Walker out there.


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[Assistant] I'm not, I'm gonna say, look man, I'm in the prime of my career.


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[Assistant] Joe Thomas played his life play, he played his heart out for the city. Joe Thomas was a walking hall of famer. And the Cleveland Browns...


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[Assistant] Punted year after year after year, never got nobody to help him, wasn't serious about winning, and Joe Thomas got that gold jacket, but he can never get that time back.


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[Assistant] But look at the whole entire quarterback picture.


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[Assistant] In the beginning of the season, and I know people always say, well, no one cared about Josh Dobbs when he traded him. First of all, that's not our responsibility. We worry about who gets traded or what happens. But what was the reason you traded him for a fifth round pick?


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[Assistant] Like what was the burning desire? You could have kept Tim, you could have kept DTR, and you could have rolled with those two guys. But, you got Q, you traded dobs, you elevated DTR. Then when you put DTR in the game, you didn't even give him any ammunition to protect himself. Didn't have him ready to play. That's the part.


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[Assistant] So now you gotta go to the XFL scrap, get PJ Walker because you didn't do anything to get DTR ready and then you're looking around trying to go back and get Dobbs or, or Jacoby Brissett. And by the way, if you like Jacoby Brissett so much, and here's the way I thought about it,


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[Assistant] If Jacobi Brissette did a great job and understood his role, he understood.


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[Assistant] At some point, uhm, at some point,


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[Assistant] As a Cleveland Browns fan and as a Cleveland Browns organization.


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[Assistant] They're gonna have to, you know, they remind me of one of those people that sell like Amway impairment schemes.


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[Assistant] So pretty soon you become a pariah. People don't want to talk to you because you always hawking these little products that nobody really wants. And it's kind of like the Browns because


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[Assistant] We got this thing where we gonna give you some leads and you know what? So what we lost? You know what? No matter. Look at the bright side. We got these picks, these assets, and we still four and three. Right where we supposed to be at.


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[Assistant] These guys are third round picks. Uh, Anthony Schwartz, he's on the street somewhere. Like these guys, David Bell doesn't touch the field.


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[Assistant] These guys, these guys don't play. So when you sell us on a sixth round pick, we're like, okay, uh, who's that little scat back from UCLA we used to have?


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[Assistant] I'll be giving some gear away too, so if you down there, you meet us, you get an opportunity to get some Kool-Aid, Mafia, Merchandise. Love it. Got you some Barbershop gear. Are you gonna turn the radio on at about approximately the 11 o'clock? At 11 o'clock, I'mma be, um, I'mma be, uh, you can come watch me at West 6.


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[Assistant] Cause guess what, at 11 o'clock, G. Bush is on the tailgate. Oh, you're on this week? Yeaah. From when to when? I'm on from 11 to 1. Say!


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[Assistant] He was starting for you. So? You didn't use him. So if he was starting for you, that means somebody below him went better than him.


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[Assistant] A lot of them make practice squads. Look man, you know this is tough man, and a lot of people flip flop on what Andrew Berry does.


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[Assistant] For the, for the simple fact of, he, Donovan people don't give it to him. I think he's some great receiver, no. But one of the things you can say is, he's dependable, the locker room likes him, he's a kid that does it right.


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[Assistant] I don't know about that. If you go to 100 leisurely, look at it this way. As a GM, at some point,


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[Assistant] We keep talking about we ain't cat purgatory. We gotta pay these guys. We gotta pay these guys. The reason that becomes a huge thing that you gotta pay these people is because you're not hitting on guys that are supposed to be replacing these guys. That's right.


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[Assistant] So if you look at Nick Chubb, he's passed his prime. You didn't draft him.


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[Assistant] You didn't drive Denzel Ward, you didn't drive Miles Garrett, Antonio, or Teller, Treta, or Teller. These are your best players. You got a Martin Cooper.


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[Assistant] If you would have missed on Baker Mayfield, you would have never had to get Deshaun Watson. If you would have drafted Josh Allen. You can't miss at number one overall quarterback.


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[Assistant] It's the same if that guy would have got the same production out of Josh Allen. But it's the consequences though. The bills got Josh Allen on a rookie deal. They developed him. They could spend money other where. The Ravens did the same thing with Lamar Jackson.


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[Assistant] If you miss in the top five, you're going to have to go out and overpay for a lot of other different stuff. They've missed on receivers in the third round, they've missed on defensive guys in the third or fourth round, and in the first round, when you do that,


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[Assistant] But in that same period of time, the Seahawks drafted two guys that are better than him. Who? The Seahawks Young Corners, both of them better than Emerson.


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[Assistant] No, not to Emerson. All I'm saying is, there are other people that are drafting not only good, but they're getting more. So they got two corners for the one corner you got. Well, one was in the first round.


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[Assistant] Yes, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a decent player. Yeaah. But we've missed way too much. They have missed way too much. And what I'm saying is...


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[Assistant] The frustrating part about this is, watching them browns is like looking at your life when you used to be poor and was trying to go from job to job. Like the struggle is just...


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[Assistant] You just get tired of struggling. You get tired of eating ramen noodles. You get tired of...


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[Assistant] Can you, can you, uh, can you win some games with, with, with PJ Walker? Yeaah, can you eat ramen noodles sometimes and it'll be okay? But that is not a constant diet.


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[Assistant] He was, he was suspended, kept getting suspended. He came out and dominated against the uh, against the Buccaneers. He was throwing jump balls to him.


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[Assistant] That was the worst thing I've ever seen. That was the worst thing I've ever seen. That was the worst thing, and I was a Manziel fan, I was like, this is bad bro. They played that game, you thought, I thought it was


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[Assistant] Peace out homie. You weren't good when you was here. Listen, you got Pantene Pro-V in your hair. You got golden locks down to your back. No, Brady Quinn. I don't like your spat. I don't like what you do. Why you got eye black on? You're not a full back. No.


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[Assistant] He get in that tea cup formation, Kelly Oakham will come off the bench and give you 300 quick. I'm like dang, he got 300 that quick? Don't even know where he came from either.


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[Assistant] Let me give you, I, he, Thomas, uh, he, you know, that was a nice, uh, assessment. I like how you, you, you played that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but there are another way he didn't mention how you stop that. The great defensive line of the Cleveland Browns. So what you do is when they run read option, you take it as disrespect.


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[Assistant] You say your defensive end, no matter what, I don't care if your hand's the ball off. You go put your helmet.


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[Assistant] And that quarterback's chest. And try to destroy him. They won't run it no more.


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[Assistant] Like, if you run a read option and you think you're gonna get cute, I'm not even gonna play that run. Maybe we'll have somebody else to sign that. But I want you to run through that quarterback.


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[Assistant] I want you to, like, they may give you 15, but this ain't college. They won't eject you. We'll take that 15, but I guarantee there won't be no more of that. That's the question that's going to be asked, right?


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[Assistant] No, especially during the end of the season. So if they're coming up there, it's always on the run.


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[Assistant] Uh, of a quarterback being injured and not really knowing what he's going to be back. I think it's a little different because you guys obviously don't have the, the, the expectations. And like you said, he hasn't even been in this new system. Um, in terms of Kyler Murray, you know, in the previous years, there was always,


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[Assistant] You know, I don't know if the entire fanbase embraced him. He actually started off one year very well. Kind of, you know, you know, faltered in the playoffs. What is the temperature in the fanbase on Kyler Murray, especially after getting a big deal coming off the ACL?


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[Assistant] You know, uh, Darren, let me ask you this question. Usually here in Cleveland, we always come from our perspective of whether we view a team as a beatable team or a winnable game. Uhm, you know, when you guys have Clayton Toon at quarterback, you know, is making his first start.


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[Assistant] Uhm, do you believe that with him at the helm, this is a winnable game for you guys? What is the thought process when you're coming to play Cleveland? Do you feel like this is a winnable game and the cardinals in the locker room, they feel like they can win this game?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I doubt it. Uhm, I doubt it. The reason I doubt it is because they had an opportunity to go get a quarterback that could have given you average. Uhm, I think I advocate going back to DTR, but at the end of the day, I just keep asking myself, you know, DTR in Baltimore, PJ Walker, Baltimore,


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[Assistant] I doubt it. They need to find some competent. I actually think the best way to make the playoffs is if DTR plays a couple games and then they start developing a game plan around him because he has a higher ceiling. But I doubt it.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna, uhm, I'm gonna say I know, uh, because, you know, we give P.J. Walker credit for all them wins. Actually, them wins should be going to the kicker.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's more, he's been more pivotal than the quarterback and winning some of these games. He's kicked in some bad weathers.


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[Assistant] And like I said, I like people to be right down the middle. You know what I'm saying? I like to, like, I like the fact that when Steph Curry shoot free throws, they don't hit nothing. Just go right down, up through the basket and hit the floor. Like, that's exactly what I like when I field goal kickers. I don't want to be guessing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and uh, he's been doing this thing this year. I'ma go with odd now.


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[Assistant] Well, I know that because here's how it is. So, so basically in this industry, and I don't, we don't vote on these things, but we, we've done a lot of guys that, you know, you get a vote for this stuff and how they operate is, is purely on narrative. They like, not all of them, but there's a,


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[Assistant] And so now, like, like Joel and B, like Joel and B were supposed to be, they're like, well, he was close last year, we didn't give it to him.


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[Assistant] Let me go ahead and give it to you. Let me give it to you. So they already gave both of his. T. J. Watt got his. This is the coming of Miles Garrett. He hasn't thrown a helmet in a while. He hasn't flipped his car. None of that good stuff. So now, Miles Garrett, come on. We like your collaweed hot suit. If he gets anywhere over 17, 18 sacks, he's gonna be different.


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[Assistant] In these positions as a head coach, uhm, you're evaluated for a lot of things. How you coach, what players you call, who you develop, can you motivate people, all those things in the game situations, and to be truthful, if you add all those things up.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski should have an I know. He should have it.


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[Assistant] But, his in-game situational football is so bad, it costs games, it costs you, the fact that you put the ball in P.J. Walker's hands instead of the running game, and it just, it baffles me, I doubt it. Because it's not- Woah. He went from I know to- I doubt it.


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[Assistant] They were in scoring position. Remember the game against the Green Bay Factory?


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[Assistant] Baker Mayfield was there and Nick Chubb had ran the ball all the way up the field. All they need to do is go get a field goal to win this game and he threw the ball three straight times. And Baker Mayfield threw an interception.


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[Assistant] So he doesn't learn from a lot of things. I just doubt it at this point. I think he may be a good coordinator.


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[Assistant] Again, uhm, this should be our I Know. Based on what we talked about during the season, based on the fact that what people told us in training camp, and based on the quarterback you had, this should have been our I Know easy.


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[Assistant] So what makes me think that all of a sudden Elijah Moore is gonna be just stuffing the stat sheet, especially if PJ Walker is playing, and especially if Deshaun Watson ain't back to normal. There's no way he gets 100 yards. And it's just not me, I would love to get him. It's just, I'm just telling you what the numbers have been bearing out so far.


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[Assistant] Uhm, man, uhm, it's funny, when you said that, I turned around and looked at the screen so fast, I hurt my neck again. I was just like, dang bro, I gotta take it easy bro.


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[Assistant] Oh my god. Offensively, for decades.


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[Assistant] Like, like literally decades before, like, you know, we, when you see the ticker, another quarterback would be like, oh, he threw four touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Are you, I think- Three, well you see three is like- Baker threw four touchdowns against Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] He threw four touchdowns against Cincinnati, uhm, when Odell was out. That's the one I remember off the top of my head. But three touchdown passes.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm sorry, that's a bad stat. That looks, that make us look crazy. Like, to think about, like,


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[Assistant] That he threw that many times for three touchdowns or more and we can't even sniff that. We ain't even nowhere close to that. We running the triple option. This is crazy.


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[Assistant] That's crazy, ain't it? We ain't nowhere close to three touchdowns. No, that's crazy. The fact that he threw that many times. How many times you say? Hey, you better be lucky Jay ain't here.


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[Assistant] Okay, dang. Jay would have put that helmet on and would have been twerking on the table. Wow. Just twerking shoulders.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Get him out. But Pierre Strong, when I look at the R22, he has vision. When you want to run a stretch zone play, you can do it three ways. You can bounce it.


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[Assistant] You, you, you can cut it up in the middle or you can bend it back against the grain. He does a tremendous job of bending the back against the grain. He puts his foot in the ground. He goes north south. He has bursts. He can catch the football at her backfield. That's why I'm disappointed once again.


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[Assistant] It is. And especially when you talk about the aggressiveness. Jerome Forum, that's why Nick Chubb is so good because his vision, even given play, he's going to get you 3-4. And I just like the fact that, uhm, Strong,


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[Assistant] There was times where he would press the front side, recoloring the hole, which is basically a, you know, linebacker alignment in that gap. Put his foot, just cut back and he would have four or five yards off top. So I love to see him get the ball, the ball more. And that's one of the reasons


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[Assistant] I want to see DTR on top of that. I think, you know, this is a little ahead of yourself, but I would start DTR and the same way you talk about using that read option, that would be a big part of what we're doing.


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[Assistant] And if they, and this is the thing, if they really utilize what we just said there with Pierre Strong, and you tell DTR, look, we're going to incorporate a lot of read option into what we're doing.


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[Assistant] Knocked it that thing, yeaah. I like it. It's not like I'm in a house full of dolls. Yeaah, creepy dolls. Creepy dolls.


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[Assistant] He did not run a four-five-five. He ran like a four-six-something. And his bench is in the thirties. Liars.


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[Assistant] Yeah, what's the stand? He's actually slaughtered Jadavian Clowney, but his broad jump is crazy.


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[Assistant] This is absolutely false. I can tell you the time he actually got the touchdown too.


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[Assistant] I feel like you either got to like Raptors or T-Rexes. They don't really do no Spinosauruses. What is that?


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[Assistant] Nope. I'ma tell you what there is. Triceratops? That is on the list. Never heard of it. A pterosaur.


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[Assistant] Very good. Same. Hey, them sound like antibiotics.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Stegosaurus, Tyanaphy. Miles Garrity.


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[Assistant] Shout out to them, man, for being, uh, down for, down with us for one whole year, man. You know, we, we turned this in. Hey, by the way, we made this, this internet thing look cool. Like a lot of people, a lot of people. How many videos now are the radio stations? All of them.


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[Assistant] Everybody got YouTube videos now, bro. Shout out to other people that's been here day one. We're going strong, buddy.


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[Assistant] You know, we like, uh, we openin' doors for people. We just, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I do. You can just type in the barbershop. Like, it's like the, it's like the x-rated version of UCSS. There you go. Like, we want that. It's real over there. We just get right to it, bro. So if you want a little, you want that truth? That smoke? Come on over there, man.


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[Assistant] First and foremost, uhm, I believe watching the game, not just saying this to just say it, uhm, once again, Dean Wade gets way too many minutes.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Dean Wade, you know, if he's not knocking down jump shots.


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[Assistant] He does not look at the scouting reports. He lets people get to their strong hand. And if he's not, if he's not knocking down jumpers, he's a liability. So for me, I believe Imani Bates has earned, earned an opportunity to get more minutes off the bench. Uhm. Step back. I mean, he played seven


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[Assistant] By the way, he's swinging the ball, playing better defense. He still has trouble, you know, one-on-one defense, getting out of their picks. But the big thing for me is, Evan Mobley, I can safely say right now, within the first four games, four or five games I've watched. One and three. He hasn't brought anything into his game.


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[Assistant] He hasn't brought, he hasn't, uhm, and here's the thing, uhm, this is kinda crazy. Bill Simmons and me was texting, and I said, uh, Evan Mobley, this unicorn, uhm, he's starting to, he might look like Serge Ibaka.


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[Assistant] And even Surge developed a three point shot. And I was like, I'm confused because we were supposed to be getting KG. He was like, yeaah, I'm not sure. And I was really high on Evan Mobley.


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[Assistant] Hand on the ball, getting to the, getting to a pull up game. Three, a corner three point shot at that. Being a more physical defense in the office of rebounder.


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[Assistant] Just so you guys know, Deshaun Watson, not scheduled to speak. That is according to Mary Kay Cabot. So we will not be hearing from Deshaun Watson. We're gonna get into plenty of quarterback talk in the next hour. But first, I need to remind the good people out there that if you are looking to get into any gambling action this season, you better be doing it with FanDuel. It is, with that in question, America's number one sportsbook right now. New customers.


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[Assistant] And Jay, not even that, but you can take tag word full. This is what Andrew Barry said three weeks ago today. Like two day, except three weeks ago.


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[Assistant] We don't view it as a long-term injury. I think Kevin mentioned it earlier in the week. There's nothing structural. We're optimistic. It'll hear in the short term and he'll be ready to go.


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[Assistant] Anybody. Anybody. Yes. Okay, Mikey.


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[Assistant] We're going to talk about a little Twitter beefs in a second about a different average quarterback in one sec. Before we do that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we have it, and we're going to play a little snippet of what Brady Quinn said. And to give everyone context, Brady Quinn hosts or is a co-host with LeVar Arrington and someone else on a Fox Sports show. The topic of Deshaun Watson came up yesterday. Deshaun Watson's quarterback coach, Quincy Avery.


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[Assistant] Responded, but here is initially what Brady Quinn said, at least a snippet of it. We're not gonna play the full 4 minute clip, you can find that.


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[Assistant] On our Twitter page if you want, but a little snippet of what Brady Quinn said that then led to an argument online and you can play it.


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[Assistant] He runs the QB Academy, after that initial quote, Quincy then quote tweeted, that exact clip.


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna bleep out the curse word here, but you can take it full. He said, Brady.


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[Assistant] Imma be real, you don't know what the eff you're talking about. And sit behind a microphone, gossiping like a little high school chick. Then they went on a little back and forth. Anthony, you can take that whenever you're ready here.


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[Assistant] Uh, Brady said come anytime you want to talk in person, open invitation. Quincy said I just seen you Saturday, I don't have anything I want to talk to you about, I'm telling you. You are talking about things you don't know, talking on another man who doesn't know you is weak.


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[Assistant] Brady Quinn said, well, I didn't see you. Quincy then responded, what's the point? To which then Brady dropped this.


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[Assistant] We'll get right back to this in literally one second, but we're doing a rare afternoon edition of Behind the Glass today. Myself, Andy and Earl going around 3.15, 3.30 to avoid interfering with the Cavs game. Cavs open tonight against the Nets. So we have an afternoon behind the glass. Make sure you guys tap in, check it out. We'll see you guys this afternoon.


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[Assistant] It feels like there is a player's fraternity. And this is to me where...


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[Assistant] That's why I have the biggest issue. It feels like a line in the sand that shouldn't be crossed for players of a certain, for people of a certain stature and especially quarterbacks that have played in the same franchise. To me that's the biggest issue.


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[Assistant] And G to your point on being hurt or not, we've reached a point in this whole saga where we have legitimate national NFL reporters. Steve, you can take the tag board full here.


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[Assistant] But guys, having clarified that, it's a real injury. I mean, Tom Pelicero tweeted yesterday, and this is a direct quote from Tom Pelicero. As you can see, as mentioned here, Deshaun Watson has a strain of his subscapularis muscle, which causes pain and weakness in the rotator cuff. Quote, it's a real injury that takes time to heal, as if people didn't believe this man was actually hurt.


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[Assistant] We're gonna bring in our next guest. It'll be Corbin Smith of the Locked On Seon podcast. Before I do that.


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[Assistant] And much, much more, so visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. You can also bet on NBA action, NHL action, the World Series. If you can think of it, FanDuel's got odds for it.


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[Assistant] Check them out at fandel.com slash UCSS. Fandel, an official partner of the NFL and an official partner of the ultimate Cleveland sports show. And with that, we're welcoming Corbin Smith of the Locked on Seahawks podcast. Corbin, how you doing this morning, my man?


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[Assistant] Corbin, I got your back here. Did Chase have 80 yards in the touchdown of that game? Not on him. Let me give you the advanced analytics here, cause Corbin, I was looking this up this morning, cause Devin Weatherspoon's in our, uh, our five stats you have to know. Against Jamar Chase and one-on-one coverage in that game. Three targets, one catch, three yards, two fast breakups. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Well, you just mentioned the 12th manager. That's what I wanted to ask about. Corbin, you obviously have lived in Seattle. You covered this team earlier this year. They...


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[Assistant] The crowd helped draw Caroline into eight false starts, which was the most since 2011.


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[Assistant] How real is that 12th man effect and how much more difficult would it make it for a backup or third string quarterback in that situation?


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[Assistant] We do, well, we have amazing things to talk about despite the fact that Brown's players said nothing about the Sean Watson. We will get to that in one sec. But if you guys missed the barbershop on Monday, it's okay. There's another edition of the barbershop coming up tomorrow afternoon, three to four o'clock. G Bush on the UCSS channel bringing the barbershop to the people. Uh, G, you giving out more gear?


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[Assistant] Very good. So make sure you check into the barbershop three o'clock tomorrow. Uh, guys, the Cavs locker room, not Cavs, excuse me, Brown's locker room was open. Grant Delpit, Kareem Hunt, two of the players that spoke. They said nothing about the Sean Watson. Nothing.


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[Assistant] This is the last year's deal. Sports Illustrated put out a 9 Trades We Wanna See article today. Derek Henry to the Browns was one of them. For the same compensation I put out for Barclay.


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[Assistant] It would cost for Derek Henry, by the way. Probably 8 million? Nope. Four. Little higher.


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[Assistant] Are you guys ready for the yards by carry per game? Yea. 8.1 against Baltimore, that was their most recent game. And by the way, that's good for us, we gotta play Baltimore again and that's the team that's gonna win this division. Against Indy.


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[Assistant] Online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. Let's get to some super chats guys here. We got a good bunch. The first one comes from Donnie Stewart. He says, shout out to G Bush. That guy defends Cleveland to the fullest. Salute big dog.


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[Assistant] Jonathan Mann says, does Deshaun have the yips in addition to the injury? Was the Tennessee game he wasn't overwhelmingly good?


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[Assistant] Does 299 membership include overtime? It does not. Only the 499 does. Bill Dyer says, doom quotes for the win. Keep up the good work. G, G Gratz says trade for Derek Henry and Jacoby Brissette. Reggie Glover says they have a backup in DTR, a fifth rounder.


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[Assistant] Uh, Daryl says, Barry, please sign a quarterback. He'll take Wentz or Dalton with our defense in a heartbeat. I believe Watson's injury will linger all season. Go Cavs. Love you guys. UCSS rocks. Brandon Burrow says, Watson didn't even speak to the media today. Pathetic. James Cosby says, thanks G. Bush. Keep those receipts.


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[Assistant] DJ Brobot says, I'm gonna say it again, even though Brady Quinn played here, people forget he grew up a Browns fan. He is. He is playing into this whole Deshawn's character contract issue that some of the Browns fan base plays into.


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[Assistant] Uh, Michael Rupovich said Clip Bowl's argument. Tag Brady Quinn. We're on it, Michael. James Cosby says you are giving much needed perspective. Appreciate it. Go Brownies. And last but not least,


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[Assistant] DBDog21 says, during the game, you're not focused on comforting a teammate that's hurt. You're typically getting a blow, a breather and getting coached. They did high five DW coming off the field, but he wasn't by himself the whole game. And those are super chats. And with that,


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[Assistant] So I have five burning questions for the Cavs upcoming season that I feel like are the biggest five questions that need to be asked.


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[Assistant] It's official. He's been listed as doubtful and not expected.


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[Assistant] Alright, Mike. Question number two. Is Evan Mobley ready to take the next step towards Superstar Goals?


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[Assistant] Next one involves Moply and this person that plays the same position to a sense as 1B.


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[Assistant] We saw it last year, and I think the question will have to be finally answered once and for all this year.


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[Assistant] Can Mowgli and Allen coexist offensively in the playoffs in today's modern NBA?


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[Assistant] It does. Our next question is the big picture of the Cavs. We have seen a recent, let's say last decade, small guards have not fared very well in the playoffs outside of Steph Curry. That's actually the history of the NBA. But backcourts with two small guards have been especially- Well what about Isaiah Thomas?


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[Assistant] Can Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell, two guys who could be all NBA talents this year, be a championship backwards?


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[Assistant] You went way up. Last question, G. Bush. This is the G. Bush special. Brad, please educate the people. Boy, I put this in here just for you.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that changed some things. Now I, I do think Imari DiMarcato has, has shown some flashes as an undrafted rookie. Uhm, but he, he's shown patience, he's, he's shown burst when he, he needs to. Uhm, but right now this, this team is, is


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[Assistant] I don't know if I'd say I'm 100% certain. The way it's kind of worked out with this whole thing, when Kyler Murray returned to practice,


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[Assistant] Right now, that's the question. Their offensive coordinator, Drew Petting, and I know you guys know him from his time with the Browns.


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[Assistant] I could understand if he or everybody else would want him to have maybe one more week of prepping in this brand new offense which he had never played in until two weeks ago, uhm, before he gets in the game.


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[Assistant] I mean, you still have Buda Baker, who's one of the best safeties in the league. And I think he still is. And he's been back a couple of weeks now, uh, from a bad hamstring injury. And they also have Jalen Thompson.


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[Assistant] Getting that chance with Ertz on the sideline, I think that's going to happen.


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[Assistant] Uh, with essentially the same cast of characters. Now, Toon, if he ends up playing, uh, which obviously a lot of people are kind of making that, that jump right now. I mean, he's a rookie. He hasn't played in a regular season game yet, save for one pass. And, you know, that's, that's a tall order, especially against a defense like Cleveland and a defensive line like Cleveland.


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[Assistant] I would, I would, again, I would assume so, uh, a road, it's a road game, a difficult road game, but I, but I've also seen enough times, and I kinda saw it with a Cowboys game, like,


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[Assistant] At the same time, it's really hard to get a handle on what this could look like or how it could change with a brand new quarterback. I mean, like I said, Toonzoid played one snap and it was a


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[Assistant] It was executed really well and we all know that it's really hard to get an onside kick. In fact, I believe...


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[Assistant] That's the only successful onside kick in the NFL this year.


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[Assistant] But do the Cat and McKinley, uh, dogs own their own masters? Oh my gosh. First of all, with the-


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[Assistant] But two weeks in a row he's had some, uh, knucklehead decisions making interceptions in the red zone, which we didn't see from him last year, most of the season, and he knows he can't do that, so.


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[Assistant] We're gonna be drafting our top five players in this, in this game. And I've got somebody that should be on the list, but I'm guessing I'm the only one.


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[Assistant] The, it's his third game. He's gotten the most practice this week. The things should be a little better. However, you're facing Pete Carroll.


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[Assistant] One of the best coaches in the league. One of the best defensive coaches in the league.


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[Assistant] And while he has had a few weeks now to get his feet under him, well now there's two weeks of video about the throws he can and can't make. And there's a lot of throws, unfortunately, that he can't make. The hope is, yes, the turnovers. If there's no turnovers, the Browns will have a shot. But my expectations for him are very low. I'm not expecting any touchdowns.


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[Assistant] I'm not expecting him to throw for 200 yards. I'm worried he's going to throw, uh, turn the ball over to the other team. In fact, I think he's more likely to throw a pick than a touchdown in this game. I think the Browns only chance is to dominate, dominate defensively.


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[Assistant] We can keep it to one. Yeaah. This team has a chance. The good news guys, like you said Jay, he can throw for 150 yards.


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[Assistant] But they got a chance if he just doesn't give the Seahawks the short field. If he makes the Seahawks, if the Browns can make the Seahawks methodically move it down the field because there's no turnovers.


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[Assistant] If he can make a good throw, Mark Cooper was wide open, Mark Cooper has 60 something yards in the touchdown and we're not looking at it as a lost game. So that's BJ Walker. However, I would want to get him going early and I might even look to throw him a quick screen pass or a slam right in the beginning of the game to get him going.


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[Assistant] And he, Pete Carroll had always been like, he's a little overrated, he's a little overrated. But in the last two years,


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[Assistant] I have totally flipped on that because look at how Russell Wilson has played without him and look at how Geno Smith has played with him.


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[Assistant] Gino had chances in other places. This idea that he didn't is false.


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[Assistant] And he looked awful wherever he'd been. And now he's like,


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[Assistant] Somewhere in that 11 to 15 range. You know, he's a nice solid mid-tier quarterback and he's become a good player. That all being said, their run game is more dangerous because Kenneth Walker is nasty. They should have Zach Charbonneau this week back, the rookie running back who's done some good things between the tackles. We learned earlier, Walker's good on the outside. So there you go.


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[Assistant] I think he's a top five back. I think he's under the radar. I had Bobby Wagner fourth on my list.


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[Assistant] And Dustin Hopkins is without a doubt been the best kicker in the NFL. And the Browns are two and four without him. There's no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat as you guys. I got the Browns losing this one as well. Let's see the headline there. Seahawks and Browns brief streak. It's not a great headline. I was not happy with it, but, uh.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, whatever. Geno Smith throws two touchdowns as Cleveland defense shows cracks. I'm a little concerned about the defense being overtaxed right now.


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[Assistant] We'll get into plenty of things to criticize from the game or going forward. And there is things if the Browns are gonna get to where we want them to be that need to get better, need to be critical. But here's the most important thing. And Browns fans better than anybody should understand this. The team is four and two.


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[Assistant] There are problems, but you know what? This team's with two and four that have problems. This team's with three and three that have problems.


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[Assistant] No team looks great right now. There's some teams that look really... We thought the Lions were starting to come and be the best team in the league. Then they got their ass kicked by the Ravens. Now the Ravens look like the best team. Wouldn't surprise me if they lost the next game they played. That's the way the NFL is. So yeaah, there's some sloppiness. There's a lot to clean up.


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[Assistant] But the most important thing is two games in a row.


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[Assistant] The Browns, who traditionally find ways to lose, have found ways to win.


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[Assistant] Browns, uh, I'll use a word to describe the browns that I don't know if I've ever used in the entire time I've been covering this theme. They're resilient.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. You're right. They are a very resilient team right now. And they're getting breaks.


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[Assistant] They were lucky yesterday. They certainly got some breaks, no doubt, but, uh, that's it. I always, I always get mad when our fans complain about the officials and I'll say the same thing about Colts fans. Shut up. That's part of the game. You're going to get some calls in your favor. You're going to go some calls against you. That's it. What's amazing is


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[Assistant] And Mike, the FanDuel, uh, points spread for the Browns this week at Seattle. The Seahawks are open as a two.


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[Assistant] Passing Z through across the board. And so far, listen, I, I, you know, I love trading for Deshaun Watson. You had to, you had to go for it. They didn't have a good enough quarterback. But so far it's been an absolute disaster.


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[Assistant] You're not supposed to be 4 and 2 with those numbers. And that tells you what kind of team the Browns have. And, in my opinion, and this won't be a popular one, what kind of coach the Browns have.


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[Assistant] I feel like I don't have enough information to say that. I would, I would as a GM of the Browns


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[Assistant] Jason, what's your, from being in the locker room, being around the guys, what's your impression of what their real plan might be for Watson?


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[Assistant] Maybe he doesn't actually have a microtear. Well, he said he did. He did. We have to take him at his word, don't we? Well, if he has a microtear, and doctors are saying you can't play with a microtear, then something's missing here. Yes, you're right.


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[Assistant] Mike wants to save it for the week and he's right, we should save it because there's a lot off the game. Uh, I don't, I, I, I would go after Kirk Cousins. I don't care about the money because it's just for one year. I don't care how it affects the cap. The owner's a billionaire. He keeps spending over the cap. It's not a hard cap, so it doesn't matter.


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[Assistant] And they've done it with the worst quarterback play in the league. That's almost impossible to be 4-2 with the worst quarterback play in the league. And they've done it. Now give them some help.


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[Assistant] I don't even think running back is that big a deal, personally. Well, I think it is. I like Strong. Well, if, if, I gotta hear more about Ford. I don't care about Ford. I think Pierre Strong could be as good as Ford.


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[Assistant] I'll be curious to see Pierre Strong this week if he gets a chance to play. Because I think he's a pretty good player.


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[Assistant] I mean, it was a bad call. And by the way, I always criticize everybody for being prisoner of the moment. I was a little prisoner of the moment last week when I said the Colts weren't that, weren't any good because they had gotten smoked by the Jags the week before, but they had played well in every other game this year before that Jag game and I thought the Colts played pretty well.


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[Assistant] When you do anything, you get better the more you do it, in most cases, right? That's fair, no matter what you do. Yes. Right? Coaches get better as time goes by.


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[Assistant] Uh, Andy Reed and Belichick. Is it the reason they're such good coach? Are, are they, do they have their jobs for that long because they're good coaches? Yeah, but part of the reason they became such good coaches is because they got their job for so long. You're exactly right. And I've said this a million times. I'll say it again.


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[Assistant] At this point, there's only a few difference-maker coaches. A few. Very few. I don't think Kevin Stefanski is one of them.


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[Assistant] I think outside of the top four or five, wherever you want to draw the line, he's as good as anybody else. He's gonna have good days, he's gonna have bad days. And he's gonna get


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski has done a very good job as head coach of the Browns. That doesn't make him perfect. He's made some bad mistakes. He's had to, you know, we've talked about, well, he didn't handle this situation right. And yes, in terms of talking and having a clear message, there have been flaws there. No doubt about it. But, with this bumbling franchise and this bumbling owner,


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[Assistant] He's had to put up with so much nonsense that he's been able to overcome. Not to mention crazy, like, look at what's happened to quarterback.


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[Assistant] Kevin Stefanski has got a half a season of consistent quarterback play. Now some could argue, well isn't that his fault?


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[Assistant] He should, you know, get more out of these guys. Well, I would argue he has. Overall, Bakers played his most consistent football in 2020 with Stefanski. Jacoby Preset, who's not very good and has never been very good, played his best football with him. Only Deshaun Watson is the only one that hasn't played his best football. And that's a head scratcher because he's by far the most talented one. Right.


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[Assistant] Easy. They just need a quarterback. They need a quarterback who's not going to turn the ball over. Yeaah. That's part of it. But, you know, and that Baker's not the answer there. But, but they need a quarterback that's going to be efficient and not turn the ball over. Really, that's all they need.


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[Assistant] We'll get to it in a sec. Yeaah. But, but, in terms of the fancy, I, I agree. And listen, I didn't agree, for those who say he always, by the way,


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[Assistant] For those who say he always goes with the analytics, he follows the numbers, we were arguing about that punt that he had at the 40 yard line, and obviously I didn't like the idea of punting, it completely worked out.


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[Assistant] And I don't want to debate whether it was the right call or not. It worked out and that's all that matters in the end. And then later in the game, he went for it on a fourth down. It was shorter. It was like a fourth and one instead of a fourth and three or fourth and four.


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[Assistant] I watched, I hopped in at the end, and, uh, these guys, it was so funny because...


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[Assistant] Earl, last year when we did it, my TV was ahead of everybody else's.


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[Assistant] This year, Mike's TV is ahead of Gee's and Earl's for some reason, but you know, depending on how you get your games. And so Mike was like basically doing play-by-play and Earl and Gee were losing their mind because they didn't want to know before they saw.


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[Assistant] Yeah. But the post game was great. The reaction was great. I mean, G like losing his mind. Fire him! You gotta fire him!


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[Assistant] Can we get you flipped back on to Miles Garrett? I've never been flipped off my


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[Assistant] Look at that. Look at that. With two sacks today, Myles Garrett, 82 career sacks, turns 28 this season, surpassed Reggie White from Moats Sacks by a player prior to his 28th birthday since 82 when the stats sack


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[Assistant] And supposedly, I can't remember who it is now that, uh, Michael Strand doesn't have, somebody had like 23 sacks one year. I can't remember who it is.


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[Assistant] Since at least 91. Yeah, we're seeing things. Oh, 2 plus 4 fumbles and a block field goal in the same game.


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[Assistant] Guys, can we just take a moment to think about the fact that a 6 foot 4, 275 pound human being had the athletic ability to leapfrog offensive linemen. I don't care that they were mentally.


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[Assistant] They shouldn't change that. Teams, other teams can do it, they don't do it as well. I agree they shouldn't.


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[Assistant] There was another one I thought with Elijah Moore, who played his best game yesterday, Elijah Moore.


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[Assistant] Off topic for a second, uh, it's normally like freezing in here, which I love. Does it feel like a thousand degrees in the studio today? Or am I crazy? He's got a leather jacket on.


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[Assistant] The Browns are a very good defense. They've been a very good defense. This idea that they were going to be the 85 Bears was ludicrous and remains ludicrous.


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[Assistant] Okay, I just said last week there's going to be up and down games. The Browns have one of the, I still think the Browns, despite yesterday, have the best defense in football. I just don't, never bought that it was an all time great defense. I think statistically they still are number one. I don't care. They're not. The Bears had six freaking Hall of Famers.


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[Assistant] It's a really good defense. I don't think, they're clearly not as bad. They played poorly yesterday. It was weird. The missed assignments that we saw last year, the bad tackles, the Greg Newsome tackle on the long touchdown was ridiculous. Josh Downs killed him early in the game. And you know, it's not like the Colts have superstar wide receivers. Pittman's really good.


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[Assistant] By the way, the guy, I'm in my big, big money league, I'm in second place. The guy who was in first place played the worst team in the league. And this is a keeper league, so the worst teams are really bad because they trade for next year in draft picks. So the guy who was in first place must have been, I think he was like a, it's a high scoring league, so he was like a 90 point favorite.


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[Assistant] And he lost by one point. He had started, the guy who won started Deshaun Watson, he got negative points.


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[Assistant] From 50 plus yards coming into this year.


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[Assistant] And I and many others were screaming, gotta get Robbie Gould. What are we doing with the, you know, Dustin Hopkins? Fine, better than the guy you got. But you gotta get Robbie Gould, gotta get Robbie Gould. They nailed it. I mean the guy has been unbelievable.


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[Assistant] It's the first time in a long time, early in the season with Cade York certainly, but by this point we had already, you know, Cade York had fallen apart. It's the first time since Phil Dawson that you have confidence in the kid.


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[Assistant] The, the flaws of the turnovers, the flaws of the quarterback catch up and you go the other way. But it feels like it's going to be the first one because of...


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[Assistant] No, like, before the season, we were hoping a big year for Deshaun. At this point, I think we'd all sign for middle-of-the-road quarterback play. Oh, I, I think- Hey, gimme


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[Assistant] I mean, yes, he's better than what they've got yet. But the point is you don't want a quarterback who's turnover-prone. Baker is one of the most, if not the most turnover-prone quarterback in the league. He's not the right answer. No, of course not. Yes, of course, he's played better than I take him right now.


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[Assistant] Because if he doesn't do it next year, then he's finished. If you ask me... What do you mean finished? He's finished! You gotta move on! You can't.


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[Assistant] I thought weren't the Eagles married to Carson Wentz? Bull! This is the biggest deal ever!


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[Assistant] One more thing on the special teams. Overall, special teams have played well. Donovan Peoples-Jones is not a good punt returner. But, remember all the people who were embarrassing themselves last year by trying to blame Cory Bjorkes for the kicking problems? We had all these statistics. That's all nonsense.


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[Assistant] Cory Bjorkes, eh, eh, Dustin Hopkins having no problem with him. And Cory Bjorkes is one of the best punters in the league. He's killing it. He's great.


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[Assistant] multiple. Now, in fairness, it's great. There may have been like, we said, well, Justin Tucker's never done it. He might not have had the opportunity to do it. I don't know. I'm sure. No, I don't know that. Here's what


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[Assistant] I tried him out there too. Yea, but you gotta, you gotta have a lot of confidence, the team's gotta have a lot of confidence in him right now.


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[Assistant] Guys say that, he's played for Kevin Stavani. So, one name, Bull's not picking up the phone. Wait a second, wait a second, let me just finish my point. By the way, Kirk Cousins, I gotta double check this, but somebody was telling me that his cap hit for this year is only six million dollars for the rest of the year.


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[Assistant] It's the best division of football. Right now it is. I believe it is. By the way, the AFC North in their non-division games are a combined 11 and 4.


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[Assistant] You really thought that both the Steelers and Ravens could have lost, not, not once the game started, but going into those games. You thought they could have lost. The Lions are red hot. They were coming in.


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[Assistant] But the, I mean, either you put PJ on the 53.


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[Assistant] Well, they're gonna have to, if he's gonna start. You can't, you can't just elevate a guy without adding him to the 53. I think it's three times max. So they can do it one more time. But after that, if they don't get another quarter,


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[Assistant] And he's experienced it often, but he just couldn't. Well, in fairness, the Giants have had their offensive lines been miserable, but they saw the way to win yesterday.


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[Assistant] I mean, again, if the defense plays as well as did against San Francisco, then they're always going to have a chance.


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[Assistant] He hasn't done much to this point. But they haven't really used him that much. He's their third receiver. And they're a run first. Listen, their run game, Kenneth Walker's as good as any back in the league right now.


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[Assistant] Probably better than B.J. Walker. Would that be fun? That would be awesome.


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[Assistant] That's a good one too. Dustin Tucker. He's got to make playoff kicks before he gets that.


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[Assistant] If they were open, you could hit them. I don't know if PJ could though.


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[Assistant] Uh, yes, folks. I wanted to share this. So, I've talked about my son. He is, uh, a young actor.


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[Assistant] And, uh, he's been in a few perf- well, he's about to be in his second performance at the Beck Center. For those who don't know, the Beck Center is a great place. It's in Lakewood. And, uhm,


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[Assistant] If you have a child who is interested in acting,


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[Assistant] Uh, but I'm not being paid by the back center. I just love what they do. If you have a child that's interested in acting, in dance, in music, uhm, I think those are the three things, right? Acting, dance, and music. It's like I'm forgetting one thing. Politics. No, no, no. Keep politics out of this.


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[Assistant] If you have a child who is interested, reach out to the Beck Center in Lakewood. It's a wonderful place, uh, and wonderful people that work there and work with these kids. They have great classes.


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[Assistant] Uh, oh and art, that's the other thing. If drawing and painting and stuff like that. They do great work in all these avenues. It's a gem that we have here in northeast Ohio. And I know it's on the west side, but it's not on the far west side. I mean it's in Lakewood for grind out loud. So even if you live on the east side, and maybe there's an equivalent on the east side that I just don't know.


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[Assistant] But this is what I know. So, uh, they do a great job. That's the thing I wanted to shout out to Beck Center. Now specifically,


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[Assistant] There's a show, they do, at the back center, they have shows. Some are...


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[Assistant] Sometimes they have professional shows, and sometimes they have, uh, the kids that perform that take all these classes and that, you know, audition for these roles. And my son, as some of you may know, was in a show last year, and he is gonna be in two shows coming up now.


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[Assistant] It's about a guy who's very rich, and he dies, and there's a caveat in his will about who gets to keep the money, and hijinks ensue.


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[Assistant] Uhm, love when hijinks ensue. Yea, right? The Cene Theater, which is their main theater at, at, uh, Beck Center. Now the Thursday show there, You Can't Buy Tickets, do that.


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[Assistant] Uh, for kids only, that's where schools come down and bring, but there are still some tickets available. If anybody's interested, I know it's kids theater and maybe you're not, but if you want to find out that maybe it might be good for your kid, check it out. The shows will be Friday night.


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[Assistant] Saturday night and Sunday afternoon, by the way, I'll be taking, I'll be taking, I'll be a ticket collector.


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[Assistant] For Friday and Saturday night shows. So if you go to Friday and Saturday night show and you hand in your ticket to see where you sit, you'll probably be handing it to me. Because I'll be doing that and I'll be part of the help team tonight as well as they're getting ready for the show, the final stages. So it's going to be a lot of fun and my son is playing a character named Snake.


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[Assistant] Uh, another animal nickname. He is a burglar. And so, uh, he'll be in this show. And he's gonna be in another show where he's playing one of the main roles.


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[Assistant] Chicago? No, not Chicago. How about that New England win?


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[Assistant] It's a micro tear, it's not getting better. So, Deshawn's problem is whether he even waits three or four weeks. Jay, when he comes back, they're gonna jam him into the ground and it'll probably still become a rotator cuff surgery.


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[Assistant] That is a full rotator in December and January that would inhibit him being ready in August of next year. So, it's not about his pain.


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[Assistant] It's, it's not about him not wanting to play. You could see he wanted to play. I could see actually me and him talking the coaches into him saying, hey, I'm capable of playing. I can make the plays.


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[Assistant] P.J. Walker's 100% arm was barely strong enough to make that throw that helped the Browns win the game. When Deshaun was rolling left, it wasn't because he wasn't tough, it wasn't because he was turning it down, his shoulder involuntary switched and turned it down and didn't allow him


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[Assistant] And that's, if it's a, again, I haven't seen the, the MRI, but if it is a micro tear, it's not guaranteed that that heals in six to eight weeks.


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[Assistant] He's not gonna be- Wow, no time soon. Not even Seattle, you think? No, I don't think he's playing in Seattle. Uh, I think what they did, they just came-


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[Assistant] Seattle is all the way on the west coast, and it's probably going to rain, and it's probably going to be not really great weather, and it's a tough place to play against a pretty solid defense. I'm not risking re-injury. Then you bring them back home, I wouldn't be mad at it if you played them against the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] We be lying to ourselves if we don't think that these wins and loss count. Like, because, like, the calculus is there. Like, I get that you want to get him back when he says he's cool, but everybody was considerate. They'd be like, well, we did win two games. Can we extend this a little bit? Because here's the thing with Bernie said, if you don't want...


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[Assistant] Bumble! You don't want, you don't want to get to the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And then you're really shot, right? Because Bernie said, I threw the ball really well the last two, the two weeks after, I threw the ball well, played really good, but over time it wore me down a little bit. So, you know, it's a tricky, it's a tricky situation. I think we are here because they did beat the 49ers and we'll be, we'll be


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[Assistant] My problem is that you got, you, you have now in AFC, you have teams who, who have a quarterback that makes everybody better, but they still have weapons that are guys that can really make a quarterback better. So they two up on you. It's not just one. Yea, the Bengals, the Chiefs.


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[Assistant] And he hasn't done that yet. And neither has Watson, really. My thing is, when you watch the All 22, there's not much separation. Like, you know, you got DPJ and some of the other guys.


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[Assistant] Those guys aren't really open. Like, they're just, you know, some of the times you look over there and they just disappear. Now, they're gonna look better when Watson's here. My thing is, if you're the Cleveland Browns, you need the running game.


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[Assistant] It's painfully obvious. And even if you're not going to get the 5.8 yards Shub was going to give you, you have to stay consistent to it so that you can at least have some open spaces somewhere to throw the ball. They were adequate.


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[Assistant] Man, zip zero, man. Ah, you know, this is my concern face right here.


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[Assistant] No, you're not getting that off. Like, you know, I went back and just watched, watched some of the film as we get into this game. And, you know, there's, there's not just one guy playing like this. There's three or four guys that Brown's got that are unblockable right now.


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[Assistant] Right now, J.O.K. looks like he's reading keys like he's Mike Singletary or something. Like I don't know how they got him to do that, but...


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[Assistant] Taylor can break a long way with that long speed, and uhm, that's something that, that you have to worry about, but when it comes to whether or not they're gonna be able to do something up front.


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[Assistant] They stopped McCaffrey, you stopped Derrick Henry, and it's just the way they play in the intensity and how fast they play, it's just hard to get things going on the ground. McCaffrey was having a decent game before he got hurt. Yup.


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[Assistant] You know, Tim, this may sound like a dumb question, but, you know, probably, I mean, you know, we'll see, not you tell me. Um, you know, Deshaun, he, you know, he has his shoulder thing, right? As a quarterback, do, is there a specific way


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[Assistant] They teach you to fall if you get hit in order not to hurt. Like collar bones are really big one. Your shoulder gets jammed in on your elbow. Is there a specific way that you can kind of roll or move or if you take a hit, do they teach you how to fall where you may not put all the pressure or land on your shoulder, which is your moneymaker?


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[Assistant] I'll give you credit. He may understand the moment, right? So bear with me here. If Deshaun Watson comes back in his game, he's like, okay, I played well against Tennessee. Everybody knows what I got. I got a slight tear. Everybody knows what I got is a serious injury. Okay. If he comes back against the Colts and balls out, he not only gets credit for playing hurt,


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[Assistant] He gets way more credit for saying, or is Deshaun Watson finally back?


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[Assistant] Because if he gonna say, look, I played well against Tennessee, I even got hurt, was off a bunch of weeks. I came back against the Colts, I hit my throws, the team and offense looked good. I think the Kool-Aid wagon's running amok here.


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[Assistant] I'll just let you know that. Well, that's true. You nailed it last week. Like, I might say that he's gonna play, but if he does play, and he plays well, you have to look at it and say,


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[Assistant] They ain't puttin' on nothin'. They like, yo, we, we gotta dance defense, but we gonna make sure we get these wins. To Jason's point,


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[Assistant] Uhm, sidelined catch because now, ehm, they've eliminated most of the stuff over the middle before they used to just, you know. Yea, you can't tee off on a guy. You're still going to get hit, but on the sideline, you not only got, it's like a feel, like you can't look at your feet.


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[Assistant] I'm not going to say like, you know, there were no great corners back in the day, but nowadays,


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[Assistant] If you got great receivers, you have corners who have been practicing these same routes. You know, they, they, they're man to man covers and they make it difficult sometimes, especially the way that they sneaky and hand fight, which you know, pull you and grab you and bump you and, and all it takes is that little split second and all of a sudden it's a blade of grass.


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[Assistant] That's funny. It's gotta spread the hate. Spread that love. Uhm, McNuggets, it's funny you brought this up. I was up late last night.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was like three in the morning and I was just looking over just random stuff and I came across this film work of what the Cleveland Browns was doing against the 49ers and this dude really, I'm not gonna take credit for it, he really was breaking it down and he said, uhm,


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[Assistant] The Browns are running, you know, all this band of man coverage, but why, why does it seem like these teams, it's hard to run man coverage and I have breaks. So what the Cleveland Browns are doing is they're making all of their corners play outside leverage.


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[Assistant] So basically what they're saying is, I'm taking all the deep outs, all the deep comebacks, all that stuff away from me.


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[Assistant] You're gonna have to run Ross over the middle. And he said, well teams like running Ross over the middle. But the point is, and the difficult thing now is, the Browns are running at, but they're putting their safety Juan Thornhill in what is a robber technique where


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[Assistant] And he's going to get tackled immediately. And they can do that because they're rushing four guys and they're getting pressure. And Miles Garrett is getting back there in like two seconds. And when you play outside


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[Assistant] He, uh, he's open, he's open, uh, throw the slant, but they have a linebacker. They have linebackers and safeties that are standing right there waiting to jump that route. And it's just, it makes it very difficult because it takes half your routes away. Mike, are the teams that are second in those


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[Assistant] Yes, because uhm, if you're playing man coverage, there's three or four ways you can give them automatic first down. Right. So if it's third and twelve, you want more guys that can be back there, you just want to make the tackle get off the field. So yeaah, I would assume on third down you're playing four and twelve.


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[Assistant] And the Browns play physical. Their talent, you can't, I mean, they can't do anything with Miles Garrett. You just can't. Right? So, I just saw Miles Garrett throw Trent Williams around like he was like, a kid.


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[Assistant] If Miles Garrett comes out and plays at that same energy level and effort, I think the Browns have a massive advantage. Now the offense has to not turn the ball over and get some points, but I don't see a problem with saying that they should beat the coast.


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[Assistant] When you watch a Mario Cooper, he's not fast. But what Mario Cooper is, he's an elite guy off the line of scrimmage. Stem routes, uh, his stutter steps, whether you cross over, get outside, do what he needs to do, he made three people fall.


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[Assistant] Completely fell just by moving around and shaking him off the line of scrimmage. Broke two ankles. When you see DPJ, he does not run.


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[Assistant] I mean, he does, he's not sudden. You have to be sudden and twitchy to be able to get off the line of scrimmage. He does not have vertical deep speed like that.


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[Assistant] And he's really not a guy that's gonna be a high point guy that's gonna go up and be 6'4 and go up over somebody and catch the ball in the red zone.