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[Assistant] The rest of it. And you could, you could nitpick every play, and as a fan, you're always gonna think your team got screwed by the official.


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[Assistant] The other guys we want to compare him to all have track records last year, year before, great. They haven't thrown 8 straight games where your highest game of yardage is what? Was it last night? Was that his breakout game? Joe Burrow hasn't played a great game.


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[Assistant] No, it's what happens when you're, when you're on this panel with Bull and Eye.


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[Assistant] Is that everybody? I think that's it.


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[Assistant] Rich Eisen, Rich Eisen put a tweet out there that he pulled down because he was getting eviscerated. But it essentially said, the football gods have decided that the Browns and their fans cannot have nice things. I just thought it was...


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[Assistant] Somebody said to me, are you trying to get him fired? I'm like, are you crazy? I'm not trying to get him fired. No, I just thought it was important because you're talking about Nick Chubb and you're making a joke about it. Like there are certain things you can joke about and then there are certain things that are off limits and watching a man whose career may have ended, that's not a joking matter. See you in overtime.


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[Assistant] And I'm Jason Lloyd. I'm going to tell you why the defense more than ever has to be on point against the Marjacks in Baltimore on Sunday. Mikey.


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[Assistant] I do think they can throw it, but you're not throwing, you're not looking for a chunk placed 25 yards down the field with DTR.


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[Assistant] It's quick outs, it's Elijah more in the backfield again, even though we really haven't seen much out of Elijah.


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[Assistant] Like production wise at this point. But it's quick shots out of the backfield. It's getting guys the ball in space and making things happen. If you're trying to line up with your own forward and you're trying to run it between the tackles.


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[Assistant] 18-20 times. I don't think that's very successful either against the Baltimore team. They're gonna need DTR to make plays in the passing game. I just don't think it's the same type of plays that you would expect out of Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] It's the Baker Jacobi offense of eight, six, eight yards. Throwing to a stationary target. You're not trying to hit guys in stride necessarily. There are ways that you can sort of get these guys into a rhythm early. Kevin's proven he's done it before with quarterbacks, again, like Baker and Jacobi.


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[Assistant] I don't think, I don't think this is disaster. I really don't.


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[Assistant] Okay. I, I don't think this is not a lost cause because. No, no. Yeah. Because the Sean can't play now. It's a huge game. Obviously divisional game. We know all the ramifications of it going into a bye week. You'd much rather be three and one than two and two, but I don't think that this is the lost cause. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I've gone back and forth on this a hundred times. I'm gonna settle on JOK. I do think they need to spy him. If you're bringing heat, if you're trying to flush him from the pocket, you better have somebody there to catch him.


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[Assistant] When he leaves the pocket. I liked Grant Delpit until I trust Tyvis Powell more than, sorry, any of you guys. And Tyvis said he doesn't think it's as much one on one coverage because now you got your backs turned.


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[Assistant] I don't know that JOK has the foot speed to keep up with Lamar, but he's a sure tackler and you just want someone there. You just want someone taking up the space to fill the hole if Lamar is flushed from the pocket.


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[Assistant] I've gone back and forth. You could probably convince me again to go grant, but for now I'm going to say JO.


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[Assistant] For the sake of this topic, I'm going to say it all comes down to DTR. Because the ball has to come out a little bit quicker. We talked on the show, the YouTube show, about if it's an hour, if it's, uh,


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[Assistant] If it's to Sean, he can hold the ball a little bit longer and he can make things happen and that puts a lot of more pressure on the offensive lineman to hold the blocks a little bit longer.


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[Assistant] With DTR, it's gotta come out fast. You don't, you haven't earned that right really to hold onto the ball long and make, and try and make something happen. See the read, make the play, get it out. So for that reason, if he can get it out on time on target, I'll give the edge to the Browns, but it really comes down to DTR and how long he's holding onto the ball.


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[Assistant] The fact that there's 32 teams in the NFL and the Browns are one of the top 10 to even have be in this conversation makes my head explode. So I don't, I don't, I don't know the answer. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that sports books think they're one of the top top 10 teams that have a chance.


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[Assistant] The official injury report is out and Deshaun Watson is questionable.


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[Assistant] I'm his biggest Martin Emerson fan as anyone on this set. We already said Newsome Interceptions ain't his thing. So I'm just going to play the odds. If it hasn't happened yet, it probably won't be this Sunday, but eventually I think Martin Emerson will.


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[Assistant] I wasn't as creative as you guys. I just have the Browns flying high. At the last minute I picked the Browns. I'm gonna stick with the Browns even if DTR plays.


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[Assistant] Defense grounds Lamar Browns enter by in first place. I still think that holds true. This defense is legit. And to me it's going to come down to listen, Deshaun didn't play well in week one and they still score 24 points against the Bengals. I realized that was with Nick Chubb who's not there now, but this team can still win even without if Deshaun doesn't play. Yeah, I'm with you.


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[Assistant] He's, I'm not going to say he had rabbit errors where he's sensitive. Oh, you can say it. No, I will. Listen, but he's been, he's been, he's been


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[Assistant] I think there's a part of it that's, if you don't have Deshaun Watson, you don't have a chance to win. So those guys go out there, they think they're going to be competing against the Ravens, came off a nice win the week before, you're pumped, you're excited, let's go get it done.


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[Assistant] I couldn't agree more. Uhm, I think they got a problem more than just the people being injured. I think they need to really go back and reevaluate what they're doing offensively.


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[Assistant] They need to really go back to the drawing board and figure out what is our identity and how are we going to get


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[Assistant] Like watching the Cleveland Browns now, it's hard for them getting five yards. It's very difficult. Like, you know, how do we, how do we take and alleviate some pressure? Because look, I'm looking at what they got.


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[Assistant] I was talking to Quincy Carrier the other day, we was on a podcast and he-


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[Assistant] He said, uh, and I agree with him. He said, you know, you don't really have much to go out and get another tackle. And to me, would I move hell and earth to do it? Sure I would, but that's just me. But I don't think they're going to do it. And if you're not going to make a change significantly and going to get an upgrade for Jed Wills, you're going to have to really


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[Assistant] When I go back and watch the Baltimore Ravens, and it's gonna be even worse against the 49ers, the Baltimore Ravens are not scared of anything. They're playing man to man coverage.


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[Assistant] This is a barometer. This is like to me, I'm looking at it to see what you're running.


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[Assistant] can be effective against top teams. To me, I'll find out all I need to know about the Cleveland Browns right here we're playing in this game. If you lose a close game and the defense is hungry,


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[Assistant] Flying around, some of the concepts that you're running look simplified, but you're still moving the ball up and down the field.


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[Assistant] No holding penalties, maybe you can stay solid up front a little more. Win the turnover battle. If you lose 28 to 20, I ain't gonna kill you. It's one of the best teams in the league. But if you come in here and get smoked and you can't move the football, I'm gonna question what is it that you can really


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[Assistant] Market-wise. I feel like it could potentially be something if you do not have a ground basis relationship.


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[Assistant] If you got a relationship with somebody and somebody say something that you don't like, like Bull said, like you could always pull them aside.


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[Assistant] And offensive line play is the trickiest of all. Because most people don't watch offensive line. Most people don't even know offensive line play. Most people don't know how to watch offensive line play. Like, what are they doing up there? Like, did you give up a sack or no?


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[Assistant] From my experience, when you grade the offensive-defense alignment, they take no account of what happened with the play. Like if, say for instance, we're watching film, we don't even watch the running back. The back's gone.


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[Assistant] Now, one of the, one of the reasons I also look at, I look at how many times people were in motion.


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[Assistant] When you look at the Cleveland Browns and you look at the top teams with guys in motion, pre-snap and post-snap, you look at the Kansas City Chiefs, you look at the Miami Dolphins, you look at the Chargers, they're all in the top ten. Those guys use motion.


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[Assistant] Before the snap, after the snap to get their guys in good looks. When you watch the Browns, they come out and they're probably middle of the pack to lower in the league.


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[Assistant] And motioning guys, moving them around. If you look at it, they come out with, you know, 13 personnel, they come out with 11 personnel, and guys are just, you know, on the line of scrimmage. And when you watch the games, and I go back and watch the Bengals, I go back and watch the Ravens games, even Tennessee to a certain extent.


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[Assistant] But when you watch the Ravens game and you watch some of these other games, the corners are quick twitch athletes that can deal with whoever you got.


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[Assistant] DPJ, Elijah Moore, they're taking man on man coverage, and then when you look at


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[Assistant] Some of the concepts you're trying to run, you're looking at high-low concepts where you're trying to influence a linebacker to either throw it, make a, make a decision and throw the ball before, in front of him, behind him. Those things take time to develop. Like you, if you want to run a high-low concept and you got the ball going down 12, 13 yards down the field, you, you gotta let it develop.


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[Assistant] Cherry picked stuff that every team runs. And it's just too hard to run those plays if you're not creative enough.


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[Assistant] Some of that bread and butter stuff, he would chip, and they were actually even helping.


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[Assistant] Uh, on jet wheels. They kept, uh, they kept, uh, uh, you know, David and Joke away. And he would chip and then release.


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[Assistant] In space, he got 5-6 yards and you can, that's the bread and butter. But when your, when your progression is, if your coaches are telling you, we looked to DPJ right here on the shallow cross, that's one. The dig is two to Amari Cooper and then three is the check down. He's not even looking at David. He's not getting to it because to your point, it's all happening too fast.


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[Assistant] Hey, uhm, I'm gonna say this and Andrew Barry has to answer for this, bro.


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[Assistant] Like, it's not the fact that you draft him and you whiffed on that. It's the fact that you gave him a fifth year.


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[Assistant] That's a minus. If you, if you let guys, they don't get penetration. It's the lateral movement that get them. And sometimes when you don't know where you're going, if I say we're going to run inside zone and we're going to double team with Wyatt Teller from here to the, to the sand back.


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[Assistant] If you double team and get to the sand backer and he beats you somewhere, that's a minus. So, you know, especially Jason said earlier, there's a lot of times when you are a tackle, tackles are supposed to be the guys that know what to do.


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[Assistant] Like guards are the ones that ain't supposed to know what to do. The guard, you know, when I play a guard, I'm tapping the center or I'm tapping the tackle. What am I doing on this play? I don't know. Where are we going with this? They tell me. Our center was like a Rhodes Scholar.


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[Assistant] And plus too, I've been noticing on the All 22, it's the Nick Chubb effect. These guys are getting to their initial blocks, but letting them go.


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[Assistant] Listen, if you got enough time and you rep it enough,


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[Assistant] They're gonna give you a different shape or different front sometimes, but.


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[Assistant] After a while, there's only so many fronts they can give you. Where you get tricked is...


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[Assistant] When they start coming with these blitzes, you gotta deal with the speed, you gotta deal with whether or not another guy's coming, you gotta pass them off, and you gotta learn protections. Sometimes on protections,


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[Assistant] You know, you might be on an island and you don't know it. You may think you got help from Taylor and all of a sudden, somebody comes up and you don't got that help. So now, your kick slide is not deep enough that you're supposed to get. So, you know, pass block, that's why it's encouraging for him. Because I would agree with that. Right. You think this gets better.


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[Assistant] When it goes, it goes fast. You wake up one day and you just not strong and you don't got the base and the feet and I see what they was doing.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's fair to say he- Off as a line is about trust. That's why they are the tightest nigga, right? They hang out, they-


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[Assistant] I don't, you look at Betonio, I just don't think that he has faith in Jet Wheels. Like, I don't think he has faith when, when...


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[Assistant] He has a, a twist or a text. He knows that, hey, I'm gonna pass this off. You know, alignment and guards, they pass that off seamlessly. So if he's blocking somebody and then he lets them go because he thinks that Jed has them and he don't do nothing, he turn around and look, he's gonna start saying, nah, well, I ain't gonna be looking crazy. I'm gonna just block that guy.


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[Assistant] And it's just not the, it's the tight end too. You have to chip more so he's out in less routes. People say, where's the joku at? Well, he's helping block. Yea, that's where scheme comes in. Yea, yea, yea. Okay.


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[Assistant] Have you seen a fighter, uhm, ever be in tip-top peak physical condition? Uhm, dang, McNuggets, you got rid of him?


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[Assistant] I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. He's back. Okay, okay. Have you ever seen, have you ever seen a boxer be in tip-top physical condition, is ready to go, but he got in a ring with somebody and got smoked because he had the wrong game plan?


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[Assistant] You out, uh, you outflanked. Maybe you have other situations. We just talked about an offensive line that leads to more sacks. Sometimes you can go in the game and just don't have the numbers.


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[Assistant] I don't know. I mean, nothing is worse than buffering. Nothing. Yeah, that's terrible. Ever. Like you just, but I'll keep the water. I gotta, Jay gotta go.


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[Assistant] I still think he's the best quarterback ever. Why you think he has to win seven to be the best quarterback ever? Didn't say that. Okay. I asked a question. Physically I think he's the best quarterback ever. Ever. Agreed. Second is Aaron Rodgers to be. Physically. Physically.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I actually have all three of these players on my team. That's pretty good. Although St. Brown's a little banged up right now. Yeaah, he's a little banged up. I'll give me St. Brown. Uhm, you know what I'm saying. I would have to cut Puka Nakua. I don't know how he gets open or why the Rams, whatever they're running, but I suggest the Browns cut their copy and face their route.


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[Assistant] This season only. Give me, give me, I'm keeping Strout, I'm trading Baker, and cutting St. Lawrence.


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[Assistant] Celebrated our successful launch of the TV show and we appreciate all you guys out there who watched on WKYC on Friday.


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[Assistant] Go back in this Friday, make sure you tune into WKYC to watch. Overall good weekend. And tonight it may be a Monday night football game. It may be a late start, but there will be a UCSS post game show for tonight's Steelers versus Browns matchup. Myself, Earl G and Anthony will be on.


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[Assistant] At the Two Minute Warning, you can tune in on our YouTube page. As soon as the Two Minute Warning starts, we will give you instant analysis and breakdown.


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[Assistant] I got em. Yea, so snap counts last week. David Bell played 10 snaps. Markies Goodwin played 10 snaps. Tillman played 11. So essentially all the same, but Tillman did play an extra snap.


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[Assistant] I just hadn't seen him. And then for your Patrick Peterson, once again, we, PFF grades, not everything.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and the only other grade that was ever higher was in 2018 with Arizona by .2.


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[Assistant] Fascinating. 62 career home games, 64 career road games. So two more road games than home games. At home, he has 322 career catches. On the road, just 276. He has 1200.


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[Assistant] Two fewer games. He has 1200 more yards at home and two fewer games than he does on the road. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] We're gonna have some fun with it. Uh, before we do that though, I do have to...


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[Assistant] Read a couple super chats here. Whenever we read super chats, Mike, you know who it's brought to us by. It's brought to us by our dear friends at PCC Airfoils. Looking for a job with career advancement and great benefits? Well, PCC Airfoils is a leading manufacturer.


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[Assistant] in Northeast Ohio. All locations of PCC Air Force at Eastlake, Manor, Wycliffe and Minerva are hiring for all positions starting at $18 and up. Plus, full benefit packages, paid time off and designing bonus you can apply.


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[Assistant] Online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. We have three super chats to get to this morning. The first.


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[Assistant] Next one comes from Mason Gouding says, the Browns always seem to beat up on the Bengals, then go back to the same old Browns. Do you think we're being over hyped and over reactionary for what they typically do against Cincinnati? We'll get to that in one sec. I want to read this last one first. Isaac Tolbert says the last time the Browns were favorites in Pittsburgh, they won 51 to nothing.


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[Assistant] That was in 1989. Keep up the great work. Go brownies.


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[Assistant] Mr. Thornhill is back. They may not have Cooper tonight, and I say they, I mean the Browns, but they do have their high paid addition to the secondary. Last week against Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] The Bengal second there is pretty damn good without one Thornhill in the lineup. Rodney McLeod filled in.


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[Assistant] How much do you think Thornhill can add to this secondary that we already think is pretty damn good? Is there an element that he brings that they didn't have previously and wasn't shown against Cincinnati?


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[Assistant] Hey real quick, we're going to make this next topic a one, one question answer and response from you guys before we get to our Joel Botonio game. But Browns and Steelers both had an extra day of rest, extra day of preparation. They're playing Monday night football. What do you think that extra day benefits more, the Steelers or the Browns? Real quick around the horns.


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[Assistant] Our little game today, a new thing we're trying. I do want to tell the people out there that if you do not own a pair of bird dogs,


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[Assistant] What are you waiting for? I'm actually wearing my bird dog sweatpants right now. They are the best casual and athletic. They could do either.


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[Assistant] Sports apparel brand out there, Bird Dogs, a big fan of UCSS. UCSS loves Bird Dogs as well. Check them out at birddogs.com.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, Joel Batonio is set to make his 100th consecutive start tonight for the Cleveland Browns. So let's give a round of applause real quick for our guy, our All-Pro Joel Batonio, the epitome of consistency.


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[Assistant] This is not his career 100th start. This is his 100th consecutive start.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna tell you exactly when the streak started. I need you to do that mental math for yourself. But I'm gonna give you something that happened. I need to tell- I need you to tell me.


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[Assistant] When Batonio's consecutive start streak began. Are you guys ready to play? Before after Joel Batonio's consecutive start streak. Mike! Hit the music.


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[Assistant] This happened before or after Petonio's consecutive streak began.


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[Assistant] Two of Jalen Hurts and Mac Jones were all in Alabama's quarterback room together. Was that before or after the streak began?


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[Assistant] That's Jordan Elliott. That's supposed to be Jordan Howard. I sent that to Anthony Wrong and to Marco Murray.


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[Assistant] Finish the season 1, 2, and 3 in the NFL in rushing yards. It's supposed to be who? What? It's supposed to be Jordan Howard, not Jordan Elliott. That's Zeke Elliott, I just combined those names into one. And DeMarco Murray? Yes. Finish 1, 2, 3.


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[Assistant] His first start of this streak was September 10th, 2017.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, I'm right, I have the exact dates for all of this, trust me. I double checked with Dee Browns.


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[Assistant] Of the streak started September 10th, 2017. Yes. So that is the date. I didn't want to give you the date, but that is the date we are going off. No. Yeah. Okay. Next up, Tony Romo played his final season with the Cowboys. Is that before or after the streak started?


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[Assistant] Bull, this next one's for you. Chris Davis led Major League Baseball at home runs with 48.


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[Assistant] What year did Chris Davis lead the major leagues in home runs? Before.


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[Assistant] Before, before, before, after. If it's after, Jay's right. If it's before, everyone else's, it's 2015. Wow. That was 2015. My timeline machine's busted.


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[Assistant] We have two more guys. What's the score update, Anthony? Through five questions.


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[Assistant] His first start and his, uh, Joe Plotonio's first start came on September 10th, 2017 versus Steelers.


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[Assistant] Who led that game in passing yards? Before. Oh wow. Get right before.


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[Assistant] Mr. Before. You said what? Kevin Before. Who led that game in passing yards? It was September 10th, 2017.


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[Assistant] And whoever's closest in terms of the point differential will be our champion today, G.


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[Assistant] Oh man, it was close. It was close. It was, it was 21-18. Jason, for maybe the first time ever, has won a game.


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[Assistant] G Bush is doing a pregame barbershop at 6 at the 2 minute warning of the Monday Night Football Contest between the Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers. G Bush, Earl the Pearl and myself will be going live on our post game show on the UCSS channel so make sure you tap in for that. We'll be going for about an hour on everything that needs to be discussed and broken down.


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[Assistant] Groundbreaking, but we haven't done it, so it'll be new for us. I figured.


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[Assistant] With tonight's Monday Night Football game, let's do a draft of the 10 best players in tonight's game.


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[Assistant] To see which side has the top tier talent advantage and how big of a disparity it is between Team A and Team B. We're gonna agree.


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[Assistant] Amari Cooper, unlikely to play. Probably not going to be on this top 10 list, even though he most likely would be if this was a season outlook draft. So for tonight.


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[Assistant] Who are the 10 best players? We have to take Johnson off. We have to take Hayward off. Yep, exactly. Those guys not eligible. Okay.


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[Assistant] So we're gonna start at number 1 and work our way down to number 10. So guys, with the first pick in the Steelers-Browns draft.


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[Assistant] So we had two chub votes, two miles votes to number one. We just talked as a production group. We have Miles Garrett as our number one selector.


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[Assistant] Miles Gatt was right higher than Chubb. What were their numbers? Uh, I think like 30 and 11 but I'll double check.


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[Assistant] Minka Fitzpatrick officially number four. That's terrible. In our world. This one's gonna be interesting, number five, I think. Number five? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Number seven. Who is voting for number seven? So you can start, you get the first.


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[Assistant] In order, we went Myles Garrett, Nick Chubb, TJ Watt, Minka Fitzpatrick, Joel Batonio, and on the back end of the top end, we went with five Browns.


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[Assistant] So of the top ten players, we took eight Browns, and you can switch it over whenever you're ready. Emerson Ward, Watson Zedaria-Smith, and Wyatt Teller.


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[Assistant] So real quick guys, before we talk about the rest of the NFL, uh, we did our headline predictions on Friday. It's on YouTube. If you missed it, that was on our TV show. Real quick around the horn, give me a score and who wins tonight before we talk about some other stuff.


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[Assistant] Before we bring in a Steelers fan to talk a little trash, we're gonna go around the NFL real quick, but first, a quick reminder of who the best athletic and casual apparel is, and that is Bird Dogs. Check them out. BirdDogs.com. They are comfy.


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[Assistant] They work in the heat. They work in the cold. If you're working out, if you're going to work, they are the best sweatpants joggers and athletic shorts you can buy. Check them out. Birddogs.com.


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[Assistant] Boy, you wanna start? I know where you wanna go with this. You've been waiting all day.


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[Assistant] Well, we have spent 90 minutes give or take with the brown side of tonight's Monday Night Football matchup. And now we're going to bring in a guest to give us a tiny bit of perspective from the opposite end of the spectrum before we bring in Cameron Kerr.


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[Assistant] That we are doing a post game show tonight and every Friday through football season, we are going from YouTube to channel three from 1230 to one. We are on TV. This quote unquote little YouTube show is now also a feature TV show on channel three. So make sure you guys tune in on Fridays, 1230 to one on WKYC.


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[Assistant] It was fun. The first time around, it's gonna get better and better as we do more of them, so check us out. And with that...


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[Assistant] Let's welcome in Cameron Kerr of the Sports Gambling Podcast Network who


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[Assistant] Comes to us from Texas behind enemy lines here because Cam is-


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[Assistant] Uh, I texted his wife, Cass. What up, Cass? And I said, I need to make a bio for Cam for the show today. What could I put on to bust his balls? And she said, he, in quotes, swam backwards in college.


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[Assistant] Yeah, we got, uh, my guy, Peter G. I don't know Peter G. I don't know why I called him my guy, but he sent us three real quick. He said back to back to back. Emerson's the third best corner on the team. This is the worst list I've ever seen. Problem is when they lose on Emerson, he lacks one speed to catch up.


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[Assistant] So, had to read those, he sent three, had to make sure I got them in, so. Third best corner on this team. He said the problem is when Emerson, uh, he lacks the foot speed to catch up and gets burnt.


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[Assistant] And we have not seen a lot of great wins. This was a great win. It was an A performance. The defense was fantastic. Myles Garrett led the way with one of his gr- the greatest games he's ever played. But the most exciting thing was the performance of Deshaun Watson. Yes, I get it. We gotta see more from Deshaun Watson. One game doesn't prove it's all, the negative is behind him. But for this thing, on this one day, he kicked some butt.


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[Assistant] I think part of his frustration was their lack of usage of him. But I know my, I- Well, they weren't using him because it wasn't working when they were. But they did stifle him, but I agree, but I know Mike wanted to start with Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] But he was, I mean he was on target, it felt like with every throw he made. He, he was on time, he was decisive in his decision making, uh, and guys got open, that helps too, right? I mean, you know that last touchdown on Omari Cooper, he gets wide open, and we know,


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[Assistant] That, and we'll talk about it later, I don't want to get us bogged down, but that, that controversial call, which was a terrible call, otherwise you would have had more yardage, and Cooper would have had more yardage. He would have been over 300, if that was, uh, but he had, I mean, what can you say?


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[Assistant] I think it also tells the story some, you know, maybe you could misread into it, but it also tells the story that the Sean Watson believes in Kevin Stefanski because he chose to celebrate his first great performance at the Browns quarterback with his head coach.


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[Assistant] You know, he didn't go over, like, I'm sure he celebrated with everybody else, but like, some guys are like, my head coach sucks, I'm like, I'm not gapping him up in this spot, and he did. I think that, that has some- Well, I do too.


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[Assistant] Because then you get to go in the bye and you're feeling great. Yeah. You're feeling, he's feeling great now because we all know San Francisco is the best defense they're going to face all year, the week after that. You want to be feeling great, him coming off two games. We'll do more of that later in the week, but I, you want him to really be able to follow that up with another great performance.


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[Assistant] What was it? I mean, I think it was all of it. It's hard to separate one from the other, but yes, the accuracy, if I had to pick, would stand out to me because he's been so not accurate.


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[Assistant] That's been the most troubling thing about him is his accuracy to me. I mean, he's thrown so many balls in these past weeks in the ground. Eight yards out of bounds. It was terrible. And yesterday, I can't remember a single throw where I said, ah, that's not a good throw. I mean, it may have been one or two, but I can't remember any.


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[Assistant] One last thing real quick, I wonder if there, on the Nick Chubb thing, I wonder if there is some, not, obviously you're not happy that Nick Chubb's not there, but some sense of...


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[Assistant] of relief that he's like, I don't need to rely on the running game, I can't.


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[Assistant] So there's maybe a freedom knowing they're going to throw the ball more. That he doesn't worry, have to worry about every pass because he knows he's going to get more opportunities. Maybe. Than in a game with Nick.


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[Assistant] The only thing comparable is when a couple of teams got superstar quarterbacks and then an offense went from terrible to, we've seen that a few times.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, it, it, listen, obviously it's not just Schwartz because they did add a lot of talent. Yeah. But it's, it's a good deal, Schwartz. I mean.


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[Assistant] And think about this guys, for the past, let's just say two decades, the Browns have arguably been the worst tackling, softest defense in football for most of the last two decades. Is that fair to say? Yes.


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[Assistant] I mean they have been soft, they never tackle. This year, I mean how many tackles have they missed? They didn't miss any yesterday. Everybody gets


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[Assistant] How about the play where they had Miles and Zedaria Smith both on the right side. Brilliant. They highlighted that. By the way, how about this stat, I don't know, I tweeted this yesterday, I don't know if you guys saw it, I sent it to you guys, but who knows. Miles Garrett had more sacks yesterday.


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[Assistant] Think about this, Miles Garrett had more sacks in 60 minutes against the Titans than every Browns player had for the entire season last year, except for Miles Garrett. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] We can go on and on about defense all we want. Obviously they've been great. You find out how great you are. You don't win championships in September.


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[Assistant] We'll find out how great the Browns defense is when it really matters. Thanksgiving to New Year's Eve, right? That's when, that's when we really, and then into the playoffs. But so far, you can't ask for any more. Outside of the, outside of not getting turnovers. What's crazy is,


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[Assistant] The Browns are 2 and 1, could easily have been 3 and 0, despite the fact


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[Assistant] Even if, even if they had not turned it over, that last turnover when Watson fumbled and the Steelers scored the game when he touched down, they would have still lost the turnover battle even if they had won that game. Even if that fumble hadn't happened. Which is crazy. That's the only thing you gotta, that's the biggest issue right now.


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[Assistant] And you did it against Derrick Henry, who's one of the best backs in the league. Joe Mixon, who's a good back. I know you don't think he's good, but he's a good back.


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[Assistant] Especially nowadays, right? Like, we talked, we joked about the 85 Bears before. Or those, or the Giants teams in the past. Or, or those Ravens teams 20 years ago. Nobody plays defense like this anymore. There's no elite defenses, so if the Browns can play...


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[Assistant] Yeah, but more importantly, you know how like in baseball, there's a lot of stats that are like weighted on base percentage, right? If you did weighted yards allowed based on the rest of the league, that's by far the most impressive in the history.


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[Assistant] That is unbelievable, you guys. Think about the 21 first downs for a second. Put it in this perspective. That's 7 per game on average, right? 2 per quarter. Less than 2 per quarter. Right, less than 2 per quarter. You're not winning the game that way. There are many.


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[Assistant] Not games, many NFL drives. That have more than two. Where a team gets seven first, first downs in a drive. Yeaah, I mean it's, mathematically it's possible.


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[Assistant] Two possessions. Yes. Where you get seven first downs all the time. Yes. All the time.


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[Assistant] No. By the way, getting back to the defense on the first down, it's going to be fascinating. Again, we'll spend more time later in the week. It's going to be fascinating because the Browns have never beaten Lamar.


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[Assistant] It's gonna be a good game. The Browns did win a game once when Lamar got hurt early in the game, but when Lamar's played the whole game against the Browns, he's 4-0 against them, so.


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[Assistant] Because you haven't had, you think about it, you had Joe Burrow who was coming off the hamstring so he wasn't looking to run. And Pickett and Tannehill are statutes. So they haven't faced any kind of athletic quarterbacks at this point. That's a very good point.


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[Assistant] I'm saying, oh man, oh man, I feel old now. Uhm, I'm saying 93%. Gee, what's your guess?


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[Assistant] Everybody flip flops once in a while. But I am, I am predicting that Jay will pull off the never before done one week double flip flop. It's happening right now. One week ago today.


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[Assistant] Jay said Miles Garrett was better than T.J. Watt. Six days ago today, Jay said T.J. Watt was better than Miles Garrett. Are you flipping back to Miles Garrett? No! Oh, come on! Not yet!


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[Assistant] I love your enthusiasm. This call was horrible. The referee had a ma- I don't know what he- he must have moved his eyes for a second. I don't know what the hell happened.


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[Assistant] Yes. I know. He's on top of it. I would actually argue with that, Jay, because if you were going to cheat as an official, and I don't, I don't even think you're accusing the official of cheating. No, he wasn't cheating. You may be saying it's like...


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[Assistant] I'll tell you something else, if you were watching the Ravens-Colts game, the Ravens got completely screwed in that game.


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[Assistant] I love it. If this, if this official came out and said, hey, I don't know what the hell happened there. I had a brain freeze. I at least feel better about it. Would you have been okay with it? Better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, once the whistle blows, the whistle blows. That's why in general, the one thing I'll give the credit for the lead for is in general, when it's questionable in those situations, the refs almost always, not all the time, but most of the time, let it go and you figure it out after.


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[Assistant] And it works. By the way, he put up 70 without his second best offensive, or second best skill position player. Because Jalen Waddle was hurt. It was nuts. It was absolutely nuts.


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[Assistant] But getting back to the conversation of, cause we'll talk about Nick Chubb, but getting back to the conversation of the running game right now guys, are we fine with it?


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[Assistant] We have a lot of time to talk about this and we're running out of time because we got to get super chats at 1250. I know Jason's got to open his notebook.


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[Assistant] But certainly a promising start. You have to love what you've seen so far. 7 for 8 and 2 for 2 yesterday and 2 for 2 and 50 plus yard field goals this season. This was 48 yards. Right down the middle, no doubt about it.


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[Assistant] So far so good. He's been excellent. Yeah, I mean the only thing you, besides the running game, which we don't know yet because of Chubb's injury,


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[Assistant] And for not playing a lot, I am a little concerned about Donovan. Now, eh, Donovan Peebles-Jones, we gotta separate the wide receiver from the return man. He has value as a wide receiver. He's their number two wide receiver. He is.


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[Assistant] And I went to the game because my wife's best friend's brother is the coach for NYU. They were playing there. NYU was in the national championship game last year and Case beat them in a stunning upset in three sets to none. Who saw that coming? Despite a major height advantage.


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[Assistant] But I'll tell you what, it was a lot of fun. It's impressive. Their athleticism is very well done. It was fun and both Case and NYU have some players that played D1 but then wanted to go to really good schools to get their masters or whatever.


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[Assistant] It's not, but let's not blame the kids for- No, it's not his fault. For his dad and grandpa being spoiled rich people. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] I guess that guy should be calling plays over Stefanski. I think we need to make that happen immediately. Let's go, get him in there.


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[Assistant] C. J. Stroud look crazy. Wow. That was quick. He's strong for a ton of yards in the first two games. Maybe you might finally break this.


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[Assistant] On a totally different note and a disturbing note, the head football coach at Brooklyn High School should be fired and I'm not letting off on you, buddy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I know. I know. That was egregious enough. Fire his ass. There's plenty of other words out there, you idiot.


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[Assistant] Losing their minds and going crazy and they're convinced that this team is great. And the more data you get that potentially backs that up, the more real that will feel.


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[Assistant] The reality is the older members of the sports audience in Cleveland are not as comfortable with


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[Assistant] Social media, they're not as comfortable. Yeaah, they're not tech savvy and so they're more likely to watch us on channel 3 and maybe be introduced to us that they may not know. We love all the fans that we have now and we want that group to get even bigger. Right. And that's why we're going on to channel 3 and we're excited about it. So very good. We're not letting go of YouTube.


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[Assistant] He has his best game as a Cleveland Brown this week.


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[Assistant] But I'm gonna stop just short of saying he plays like an elite quarterback this week. I think he's gonna play a good game. I think it's gonna be way trending up from last week. Like I said, I think it will be his eight best game, uh, out of the eight games he's played so far.


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[Assistant] I have a hunch this game, I felt this way last week, I feel this way again this week. I think it's gonna be a low-scoring game again, so I'm not expecting him to put up huge numbers statistically this week. I think it's coming.


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[Assistant] But I think it's gonna be a defense first game and end up being a little bit of a run heavy game again. And so I expect him to be significantly better, be good, but I'm not expecting 350 yards and three touchdowns, no.


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[Assistant] I gotta tell ya, I don't care what those, I don't care if Kyle Brandt has a hard time talking about it on NFL.


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[Assistant] The reality is probably somewhere in between, and you can believe whatever you want. However, what I would say is, here's the facts. The fact are, the fact is, he was never, he was never convicted.


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[Assistant] A black man in the state of Texas who wanted the hell out and they couldn't, and they couldn't even indict him. So that's the facts. So I'm not going to worry about everybody clutching their pearls nationally. Now I know a lot of our fans get angry about that stuff.


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[Assistant] While the reality is most of the former players that are national guys, they don't, they don't, they're not going to have a hard time talking about Watson. They don't care about any of that. They care about what's on the field. They care about storyline.


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[Assistant] Because they don't cross- Yeah, playoff games are only games on that time. Not the, not the wild card round. Yes it is. There's other games that day.


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[Assistant] We could talk about it all we want. All these stats favor the Steelers obviously because they've been a much better franchise. Most of that's irrelevant when it comes to this year.


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[Assistant] James! Deshaun Watson played at a Hall of Fame level before that!


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[Assistant] They had a bad record. No, what was it? It was four and twelve. Okay. Here's, here's what I, you know. That's not a great season.


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[Assistant] They have, they have been for seven games. Okay. Baker has a longer track record of bad play. Deshaun has a track record of great play. Baker has no track record of great play. We have one or two games here and there.


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[Assistant] And that can't be ignored. Fine, everybody, you can look at it how you want. Individually, there's no comparison beyond the fact that they both played crap football for the last seven weeks. I'll give you that. But that's it.


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[Assistant] You know, I've been hard on, obviously on Kenny Pickett. He's got more time to prove what he got. I don't see it, but he's got more time to prove it, obviously. But I will say this. We've seen enough of Najee Harris. I don't think he's a very good back.


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[Assistant] I think Jalen Warren might be their better back if given more opportunity. Najee Harris to me is just a guy. Uh, do you think he's better than that? Or, cause I haven't seen it. And unlike Pickett, he's played long enough to know, I think.


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[Assistant] Why are we wrong, guys? I think the Steelers will be the team, based on how I see the team game going, throwing a lot more than the Browns in the second half. Right. Which will give the operator, and they'll be, I think the Steelers will have more plays where they're throwing and the Browns know they're throwing, which is a major advantage to the pass rushers.


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[Assistant] I got Watson, one touchdown, 245, and the Browns running the ball a lot. Another big game for Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] Well, if we're basing, if we're now going to convince ourselves that 220 yards and just being accurate is a breakout game, then okay, I'll say he's going to have a breakout game.


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[Assistant] Can I predict who said higher number for the brown score? Yes. Definitely Earl. Earl's correct. Definitely G. Correct. Definitely you. Nope. Ooh, wow. Uh, J. Correct. And then the fourth person is Tyvis.


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[Assistant] I have Nick Chubb with 22 touches and the Browns with 21 points. Oh wow, so you've got them only scoring 21. You got 22 touches? Touches. Yeah. And 21 points. That's catches and carries. Yeah. Touches. Total. Total. This was easy. This was easy. This was easy. Wait, the Browns gonna put a 40 points? No, but I think they're gonna put a more than 20.


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[Assistant] Definitely. I mean, I think there's no doubt. Goal line, fourth down, situations. I don't think there's any doubt that's going to be part of the game. Alright, what's the next one?


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[Assistant] You feel like it's gonna be one and one, but I had to, you know, you couldn't stay on the fence. So in the end I was like, eh. Then I thought about, then I remembered what my headline was, so it can't just be one.


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[Assistant] Well Brooke, what do you think the upside, like Kenny Pickett got so much hype based on preseason, which was mind-blowing to me, uh, what do you think the upside is for him, like?


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[Assistant] Do people in Pittsburgh think he could be a top 10 quarterback? Cause I don't see it. Like I look at him and I see best case scenario being Andy Dalton or Jimmy Garoppolo. What do you see? What do they see?


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[Assistant] Brooke, you talk about Deontay Johnson not gonna play. Allen Robinson, at least for one week, looked like he was back from the dead. I mean, the guys look, look like he was completely shot for the last three years. And he had a good game. Are you buying? He's hit a fountain of youth here, or is it just a one game anomaly?


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[Assistant] What's the latest on Pat Fryermuth? I know he was in and out of the game last week. He was a little banged up. Is he good to go? Are they expecting him to play?


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[Assistant] Guys, I'm curious everybody's opinion on this. Or you think I'm crazy or not. I mean, you might think I'm crazy. Yes, but we'll still give you our opinion.


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[Assistant] You know what's weird about that too is because we've often complained that Kevin DeFancy does a good job in the beginning of games and then never adjusts after the script. Well, on that first drive, right? Right. And then against, but against bad teams they haven't. I wonder if part of that is because the Browns have not been good at forcing turnovers recently.


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[Assistant] I get how some, there's some level of paranoia and expecting the other shooter to drop. But why would, why would the fact, again, the Steelers aren't as bad as they played last week. They'll probably be more competitive this week. Uh, it's not gonna be easy.


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[Assistant] Again, I just said there's no shoulds in the NFL. I think if you play the game 100 times, the Browns win more than 50 times. So I expect them to go out there and take care of business. And if they play to their capabilities, then they'll win the game.


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[Assistant] Most of the players of the Steelers, current Steelers, I don't think any of them have won anything.


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[Assistant] Well this win, this week will give us the first real test as to are the Browns really a different team this year.


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[Assistant] Last year, so they're less, you know, they lost two of their best players.


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[Assistant] No doubt. By the way, I gotta say something here real quick. Mike mentioned earlier that he and I are going to the, are we going to the immunity lot or where do we wanna go, Mike?


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[Assistant] Here's what would scare me if I were you. Now that it's out there everywhere, someone at Kool-Aid is going to see it. They're going to.


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[Assistant] I'm the only one without it? Yeaah. Because, now, now, I'm guessing, just by looking at it, this could be one of the new wave pocket squares that is actually a pocket liner pulled out. You know what it is. Is that it? Now, here's a trick. I can tell because it's flat. So when you tuck that down, that's the inside of it. Here's what you do, bro.


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[Assistant] We haven't even gotten to why this is a big day. Yes. It's a big day because after all of our blood, sweat, and tears, after all of the hard work,


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[Assistant] of McNuggets and Steve and Anthony and Earl and our big boss Steve who's here and everybody that has sat on this panel.


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[Assistant] We have finally cracked from being a YouTube stream show only. Today at 1230, the 1230 to one half hour will be broadcast live in the Cleveland market on WKYC Channel 3. Congratulations to all of you guys and you should be proud of the hard work that you put in because this is a big, big step.


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[Assistant] 100 hours. Browns wore the practice yesterday. It ki it was that hot. I mean, first time in 100 years, uniforms. They're unbelie on that. I mean, look, I done with the orange and b face it, no one ever says


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[Assistant] No one ever says that. No, never. You were probably part of a scrum that I was a part of when LeBron was...


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[Assistant] Uhm, so we're gonna show you those pictures. And, and McNuggets wrote a specific question about these uniforms that is very, very funny. We're gonna laugh at, but we're still gonna talk about it because maybe he's onto something.


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[Assistant] When you look good, you do feel good and you do play well. I'm a uniform guy. Every time I step on a baseball field, tomorrow I'm stepping on the field for the championship series. I will be buttoned up. I'm kind of like you in that. I'll have everything


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[Assistant] Was the Bengals game more of a roadmap for where they're going with how they're using him, particularly as a pass catcher? And will they continue to give him in the ballpark of 20 touches a game? All of that being said, McNuggets.


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[Assistant] Now, Mike, let me ask you this. Do you think that that's because who the 49ers are? Because they are. They're an aggressive, very, very fast defensive front. Or do you think that speaks more to


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[Assistant] They did it that much because the Steelers offensive line they noticed was very, very thin.


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[Assistant] Everything should go this way. It should, yeaah. Philly ran for over 200 last night. Oh, they smoked them. I mean, and you're right, I didn't think about it until the tax, but I did, and I think someone said in our group,


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[Assistant] Yeaah. But the trouble with comparing one week PFF grades is you have to consider heavily who they played and who the offensive line of the Steelers were going against is the yardstick defensive line in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Of course you can. That's why you gotta give the Browns defensive backs. See, they won that battle. I agree. So that's why I was so shocked that their grades were so low. I just dismissed PFF. I don't put as much stock in PFF. Yeah, you know what? Here's what I'm doing. I know that for the offensive linemen, that's really what we have. That's what we have.


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[Assistant] And your eyes. You know, how many times did he get blown up and give up a sack? How many holding penalties did he have? But I really look at the PFF grades with, I give it a half a grain of salt.


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[Assistant] And that's it. It's because I know it's all we have as a yardstick, but a lot of times we have sat up here and we've shown grades and we're like, what? How in the world did they get to that?


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[Assistant] And Mikey, to answer your original question, I'll give my answer now, and first I'll say what Bull said. These are guesses.


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[Assistant] Nobody knows. We're just judging based on what we saw from Pittsburgh in week one. That's right. What we saw from Cleveland in week one. And a lot of times I try to give educated guesses. I try to go deeper and look at trends and stats and everything else. There was one stat that I found that I think is really a home run number. It's gonna blow your guys mind.


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[Assistant] And it's gonna lead to my second point in this discussion.


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[Assistant] The Pittsburgh Steelers are the only NFL team.


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[Assistant] has done it at least three times. And there's some bad teams in that group. There are some horrible teams in that group. Now, that's part one of why I think the Browns are going to dominate the Steelers this week on the defensive and offensive line.


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[Assistant] I'll take it a step further, yesterday in the conversation with Aditi.


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[Assistant] Everybody on this panel was stunned that Canada is back as the offensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers.


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[Assistant] This is the trend. This is, this is the body of work he has put on paper and on tape. That's right. Aditi, much to my surprise.


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[Assistant] The Roonies, who are widely regarded as


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[Assistant] The blue blazer kind of Tiffany owner in the NFL, right? They have defied the talent cycle of


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[Assistant] Going down every five years and coming back up. They've stayed at the top. They've done it because they're smart.


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[Assistant] The reason it surprises me that Rooney wouldn't be willing to pay, what does an offensive coordinator make? A million? Probably not even that.


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[Assistant] The fact that they wouldn't write Matt Canada a check to fix what is clearly broken. It's clearly broken.


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[Assistant] When, and I said this on the air yesterday and Aditi said, is that true?


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[Assistant] I said, once upon a time, Jimmy Haslam was paying six head coaches. And here's the headline. The Cleveland Browns have paid or are paying six head coaches $49 million not to work. That was six head coaches.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but the bigger part of that is, it's like Mrs. Lincoln, other than that, how did you enjoy the play? What I can't, what jumps at me on that headline is, we were paying seven head coaches at one time? That's almost impossible to do guys. I don't, seven? Here's the headline from Cleveland.com.


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[Assistant] And a lot of people that watch The Steelers a lot more than I do tell me...


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[Assistant] That Canada is absolutely the problem. Just like we sat here last year and said that we know what the problem is with the Browns deal.


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[Assistant] That's the typical hype cycle that always happens. It doesn't happen for every team. It happens when you win all the time. So the assumption is, well, we're going to give them the benefit of the doubt because they've always figured it out.


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[Assistant] So that speaks to their talent on defense. They're good defensively. All of those points that I make give me a pretty comfortable feeling going into Monday.


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[Assistant] Tim, this is, uh, they're all big games, uh, but this one's huge because obviously it's a division game. They're coming off a win, they'd love to bounce to 2-0.


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[Assistant] But it's also big for Deshaun Watson for another reason.


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[Assistant] To write off the six games last year that were clearly well below average as well, you know, he was playing in Jacoby's offense and they had geared it more for Jacoby and he kinda handed it off to Deshaun and clearly they're two different kinds of players.


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[Assistant] But then this year we saw the same numbers, very similar numbers that he put up last year. Nothing eye-popping, uh, around 150 yards passing, which is where he's tended to be more than not. Uh, and we said, well, you know, it was wet. So, you know, if the track is clean and the weather is clear in Pittsburgh,


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[Assistant] Tim, I want to follow up quickly on what Jason asked. I thought that was a great question, Jason, about what's the last thing to come back.


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[Assistant] We're almost talking about it in depth. He didn't play last year, because you're saying when he's away for a couple years.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he played the last six games of last year, all of camp this year as the guy, and then one game this year. So if that's the last thing to come back,


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[Assistant] Should it take seven plus games for it to return?


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[Assistant] It's, I think I know where you're leaning, but is this the first time since you did it in 2003 that the Browns go into Pittsburgh and come home with the win in the regular season?


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[Assistant] The coach is the same guy. So let's just erase what happened the last two seasons and let's just pick up where we left off after the playoff win.


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[Assistant] And with Joe Woods, it just felt like we were daisy picking defense.


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[Assistant] Greg Williams felt like we want to bash these guys to the dirt.


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[Assistant] I asked that about Miles because he's got a pleasant demeanor. He's a nice guy. And we, as we've been scratching our head trying to figure out what it is that's keeping him from busting through that glass ceiling to become not just because he's an elite. We all agree with that, but with him, we all say he's got


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[Assistant] He's got the ability to be the bar, the best. And I just wonder, is it a lack of dog instinct?


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[Assistant] That's a great stat, and it does bode well for us. And Bull, I gotta tell you, outside of the needing help part, I don't want to see anybody get injured, because this is human drama we're talking about. I couldn't agree with you more.


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[Assistant] I, and I almost wish, I hope that they, can we get a clip of this over to Kevin Stefanski? Can you inbox that to Kevin?


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[Assistant] I just need him to play that in the locker room before the game. Because that is the message they do need to hear, Bull. It's time that we end this nonsense charade of being there.


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[Assistant] He was good in his day. 50% completion rate and half of an interception to touchdown ratio was outstanding. The game is different now.


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[Assistant] Uh, but back then it was just different. Guys threw a lot of interceptions.


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[Assistant] 18 carries, I'm sorry, 106 yards, 4 receptions, 21 yards. That was the part to me that really jumped off from him being used differently this year than last.


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[Assistant] Maybe it was because of the rain. What I like about it was he was 100% on his targets. They connected. They worked. He moved the ball for 5 yards on average. That's about what he gets on a run. And the whole idea for me guys is to get him in open space.


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[Assistant] Get him a little bit of cushion between he and the first defender. Cause we know that the first defender often times does not bring Nick Chubb to the ground. And I think what's in our future is Nick Chubb catching one and breaking it and taking it for 40 or 50 yards.


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[Assistant] That's a good point, because I have surmised for a while, and maybe wrongly so, and if so, I apologize. It's just my opinion.


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[Assistant] One of the things that I think I've seen, I think it was you that said there are some sort of analytics out there that suggest that after he has touched it 17 times, his production goes down. 20, I think it's 20. Okay, I need to see that. Yeaah. Because first of all, it's happened very, very rarely. No, no, no, no, Nathan's the girl... But the other thing to me is he gets stronger as the game goes on. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Nathan's saying it, he's getting inside information from the team, and I have said all along, I think that's coming from D. Podesta. I think it's some sort of number he's cooked up that tells us that he's not as good after 18, so let's not go over 18. And I think that's nonsense.


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[Assistant] Here's the- here's the- Who is the Brown's best player?


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb. Okay, I did a commentary on Channel 3 on Friday before the season opener. And the thread of the commentary was very simple. This isn't hard, folks.


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[Assistant] Who is the best player on the team? It's Nick Chubb. You don't have to be an NFL executive to figure that out.


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[Assistant] Letting your best player do what he does as much as you possibly can. So I begged on Friday before the season opener, please, let's see Nick Chubb like we've never seen him before. And I stand by that. This is our chance bowl.


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[Assistant] After I did the thing on channel 3, I got an email from someone, so what's your number? And I said, there is none. Whatever it...


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[Assistant] Whatever it takes. If he needs 25 touches a game, 30 touches a game, I know how strong he is. I've seen the video.


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[Assistant] Now we have a secondary runner that can run the football.


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[Assistant] So that will happen. And we all kind of recognize that in the moment. It's not working today. Go away from it. Establish the past. Do it in reverse. Establish the past and once that starts working, then try to go back to the rough.


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[Assistant] But what I'm saying is one of your assumptions in your grand conclusion is that we have that elite quarterback right now. That is the bridge that people have to see built.


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[Assistant] You know, I thought the same thing when I first flash looked at it yesterday when Miami wears the green pants and then the all white tops.


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[Assistant] It does a little bit look like that, but man are they, I prefer the white pants, white shirt, white helmet, black visor, Star Wars, Stormtrooper.


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[Assistant] We love it! So this is McNuggets question. Are you ready for this? I stand by this and I will defend this from death. Did they ever lose wearing the white helmet? That was McNuggets legitimate question.


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[Assistant] To make this the permanent helmet at some point.


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[Assistant] Yes. I would co-sign that. And I traditionally have been very traditional on this and said never change the helmet. But if it works, go with it. You need more than three. It's a great, it's a snowball. Maybe next year you do five games.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing with orange, it's okay as an accent color.


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[Assistant] And the pocket square and the tie are the pants and the jersey. But to me, the helmet is the main accessory to the uniform. Make that look good. Make that on point. And I think everybody would agree that white is a better color than orange as a primary.


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[Assistant] We can do this as an experiment. I want Bull to get a pair of his Brooks black sneakers. They don't make white shoes in triple extra wide. Now listen, he's gonna run the 40 in those, okay?


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[Assistant] We use it a lot as hyperbole. Yes. You know, we'll say, hey, Miles, Miles Garrett's the best, best ever. It's Toy 23. Facts don't matter.


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[Assistant] It may not be a fact bowl, but if you ask all the folks that have played the game for a length of time, they'll tell you what they prefer. That's different than calling it a fact. You're right, it is.


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[Assistant] Right? Who's the guy in Philly? Uh, Howard, Howard Eskin. You interned under him. Steve, our leader.


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[Assistant] Known for his threads. I mean, that dude's clothes. Yeah. I mean, every time I see him, he's in a $1,500 suit. This look for you, G, this sort of, this sort of, uh, Hugh Hefner smoking jacket. I think he needs a cigar, though. Yeah, we're not allowed to smoke in here. Or maybe a pipe.


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[Assistant] There's something, you learn a lot growing up that way. In my view. You learn the value of the dollars.


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[Assistant] Alright, uhm, so the white uniforms, check.


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[Assistant] You know what Jay, it's one of those things, and it's funny because Jim Schwartz talks so much about that front being disruptive and wanting to be disruptive and all of that, but you also have to have a nose for the ball. And it's funny because this is exactly my son, you're talking about Messi, so we'll talk about soccer. My son plays soccer.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's fair. That is fair. I'm just remembering that sometimes it's, you know, the defense that really carries the day because you're saying the Steelers offense did that, but they still only had 15 points. So it's not like this is one of those, you know, Ben Roethlisberger throws for 300 yard juggernaut things that they lost. It's just,


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[Assistant] The defense has held, last year the defense held opponents to less than, to 17 or fewer points, I think 6 times, and lost. And Dick LeBoe used to say, if you hold the opponent to 17 or fewer points, you've got a 99% chance of winning.


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[Assistant] Exactly, you didn't see anybody walking up and down the sidelines saying, keep your head in this or we're okay or we'll come back or settle down. And what's different is that I talked to Sean Payton at halftime and he actually was not alarmed or anything. He was very level. He was very, he said, it's fine. We're fine. And I was like, what? He said, look, we did so many good things in the first half.


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[Assistant] Need to, I just, uhm, so anyway, I'll start crying if we keep going there. So he is what is good about football. He is what football is supposed to be. As I tweeted, he, I mean,


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[Assistant] But now it's going to start running through him? Okay, well there's no 24. So it has to run through you now, Bishan. And...


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[Assistant] But, uh, Cleveland's home, and it's time. And there better be an emotional charge from what Kevin Stefanski said, that everything we do now, we try to channel Nick.


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[Assistant] And I hope they also feel, it's funny because Odell said this to me, Odell Beckham Jr. said this week one in our meeting with Baltimore, and he said he's just so much more grateful after having come back from that injury.


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[Assistant] He just recognizes what an amazing opportunity it is that we get to play. What an amazing opportunity it is that we are healthy. And he keeps saying that to his teammates. Seize the moment. You're healthy. You don't know how long you will be healthy. You don't know if you'll be healthy two minutes from now. So seize the moment when you are healthy. The Browns need to do that.


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[Assistant] No, I was not at a 10. Before I ever saw him play last year, no.


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[Assistant] I mean I do- I wouldn't think that the- that- I mean maybe like an eight?


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[Assistant] That he actually, Deshaun actually had tons of success in Houston when his line was kind of shoddy and he didn't have a great running back.


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[Assistant] I will say, I mean, I, look, I thought DeJuan Jones, well,


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[Assistant] Thank you. We're gonna say this is sponsored by Strawberry Illuminate.


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[Assistant] And there was a crowd that would get there early, uhm, all the fanatics, like, you know, usually about nine.


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[Assistant] 10 o'clock come around, people is just standing there listening. I'm talking about in brutal weather. I'm talking about cold weather.


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[Assistant] Trust me, if UCSS goes out there and they want to do anything, we compete, play pin and tail on a donkey, we give away prizes and spin a wheel, or we can do a show. Free Kool-Aid? There will be free Kool-Aid at all times.


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[Assistant] I looked at point by point, team by team, quarterback by quarterback, coach by coach, and I felt like the Ravens, the Bengals, and the Steelers were all, Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, and Browns all had just about the same level of


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[Assistant] I would say talent on the roster. You did say that, I recall that. But, I said, the team with the highest upside is the Browns because...


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[Assistant] We've been playing with quarterbacks that can't give us anything. We only need Deshaun Watson to throw the cape on once in a while. The truth is, they're good enough to win games if he plays average or above average or good.


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[Assistant] Now, if you wanna get to the Super Bowl and you wanna play good touch teams, he's gonna have to put that cape on and do what he's gonna need to do.


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[Assistant] That's down the line, I think he's gonna work himself back into that. Actually, I'll have him throw him for much more yards against the Steelers this week if there is no rain and no different weather. He better. But, for me?


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[Assistant] Everybody, oh my goodness, don't throw over there. But in reality, yes, throw at him. Like, that's the reality of it. These guys got more name brand recognition.


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[Assistant] T Higgins didn't catch no footballs. Eight targets. Zero targets. No, eight targets. Zero catches. Zero catches. That's ridiculous right there.


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[Assistant] I go over to another end of the spectrum. J.K. Dobbins is hurt again. Odell Beckham Jr. had about 20 yards or something crazy. And Lamar Jackson is still looking like a quarterback that just pulls the screen out after his first read. I'm looking at the division as a challenger, yes, but I'm going to keep it real.


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[Assistant] Don't let the Browns mess around and beat the Steelers and then come back here and catch the Ravens because they behind the 8 ball then. They go up 3-0 in the division.


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[Assistant] And you're trying to figure out why your polling numbers are so low. You might have a message that you're saying now, you go back with your team and say, our polling on this specific issue on taxes is terrible. We need to change the message. We need to do change the messaging on this. So here's how we go about doing it.


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[Assistant] They're like, well listen, now they're behind the scenes like, mmm, they're a little too good to not be talking about.


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[Assistant] The pivot will be, you know, Deshaun Watson gets most of the attention and they got Nick Chubb on the offensive side of the ball. But what really makes the Cleveland Browns go is this defense. Well, I don't think that message would be wrong. It wouldn't.


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[Assistant] The only next game that I think you could see a significant jump.


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[Assistant] That's like a mere match type game. You got the 49ers and they destroyed the Steelers. But the 49ers have looked at a team that is going to be in an FC Championship game, possibly a Super Bowl team. So if you go play in that game, I think


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[Assistant] If the Browns play very well, especially against guys like, uh, Nick Bosa, you, you got Deebo Sammy. It's a lot of names, right? Kyle Shanahan. It's a lot of storylines with that.


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[Assistant] And so I want to go back and kind of get into.


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[Assistant] Your era in which you played with teams that had good quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] As well as running backs was at a premium. You look at the bills with Jim Kelly and Thurman Thompson, or Thomas, excuse me. You look at the, obviously it's Emmett and Aikman. You look at what they had in San Francisco with, you know, Roger Craig, Ricky Waters, all those. It just seems like...


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[Assistant] Back then, there was not this emphasis to say this or that. And what I mean by that is, does Nick Chubb have to be the focal point? Does, or does, does Sean have to, is it, whose offense is it?


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[Assistant] I think that's a new constructed thing because when I was coming up, there was never any, it was, it was about complimentary football. Whatever you had to do to do to win, maybe Emmet got the ball a lot, maybe we had to get Michael Irvin involved, but it was never this thing from the outside that, that


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[Assistant] A diametrically opposed running back that you can use in a quarterback.


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[Assistant] Uh, Deontay Johnson isn't gonna play. Uh, it looks like, uh, you know, we just talked about Nigel Harris not being effective. And he's banged up.


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[Assistant] I would expect that the leadership on his team, ala, you know, Deshaun Watson,


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[Assistant] We'll see an opportunity to say, hey guys, look, we didn't play that well last week as far as us in the passing game. Let me get my receivers out here staying after practice because we need, we gonna pull our part. We won last week because of defense and a run game.


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[Assistant] It's time for, I think he could be, should be upset a little bit. Not that, you know, it's over the top thing. But I said, Pink Manny and Tom Brady.


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[Assistant] They would take an example and try to make an example out of Steelers in a rivalry game. Do you think that team?


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[Assistant] Has it in him to, to, to have that type of mentality going into Pittsburgh? I do, but-


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[Assistant] It's really not, really not likely. I did some homework. Uhm, I reached out to Bull and they cut, the Bengals cut Lyell Collins.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I asked, he was on the pup list, uhm, and I was listening to James Rapin and he was talking about, they didn't know whether it was a thing where he was off the pup list, he passed the physical, but he wanted to play, they wanted to take him.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, so I don't know, and I asked Bull, I said, you watch him every day, is he an upgrade? He's like, well, he was much better three years after coming from the Cowboys. He's had two significant injuries while he was on the Pub List. That's what scares me. Yeah, two significant injuries. I mean, what's his age? 30.


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[Assistant] So, you know, kick the tires on that one, but uhm.


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[Assistant] The guy that came in that's gonna start for Jack Conklin should be getting on the smoke. But 95% of the people ain't worried about Duann Jones, they worried about Jeb Wills. That's funny cause that might be true.


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[Assistant] You've been given multiple chances and he's just not that guy. I just, I just said McNuggets something on the tag board. Maybe they could put it up. Before you say no to these guys, just, let's just take a look at some of the film work the judge has been putting out.


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[Assistant] I'm looking at his technique and so everybody can stop saying that he's not that bad. Bro, I'm showing you right here. Louder than words, look.


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[Assistant] Just a flash. And that's why they rep it. When people talk about rega keys, man.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, I welcome all, uh, oncomers. You wanna get on the bandwagon? It's cool. We got Kool-Aid enough for everybody. We got room. You know what I'm sayin'? We just made a deal with Oregon Trail, so now we can get on it.


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[Assistant] The official, the official sponsor of Bandwagon? The official sponsor of Bandwagon and Meager Rations. Uh, I'll tell you what.


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[Assistant] You all gonna get to see the really, people really gonna start jumping over the ship trying to get on the board. Right when Deshaun Watson threw his first 300-yard game, multiple touchdowns, no interceptions, then the next week the Browns are dangerous. I tell you what, if he threw them like that and they got Nick Chubb in this defense, good luck, good luck NFL. It's not gonna happen.


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[Assistant] And this week is gonna be, I think it's one of those weeks where the offense really wakes up. And it's gonna be called Pick Your Poison this week. Cause I think, uh, I think, uh, uh, you know, they're gonna get a hundred on the ground.


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[Assistant] And I think, uh, your, your man Deshaun Watson wakes up this week and he's in it for the first time show you that 230. Well, I'll tell you what, when you, this week to me,


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[Assistant] Like they, they, you know, they want you to put a pretentious dish out there.


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[Assistant] Get you some of that local ribs. Get you some burgers. Just the stuff that we eat, right? The stuff that you can just eat and get up out of here. Now when you look at the Browns, Browns is a local type thing that you can eat. It's digestible.


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[Assistant] But if you look at it from the outside, you're like, but that's just hamburgers and ribs. You can't have hamburgers or ribs at a wedding reception, can you? Right? You gotta have pretentious plates full of stuff that people don't eat.


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[Assistant] They got the players. Because we should, we should be...


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[Assistant] This is the roster, right? This is, like, you look at it player for player, this roster is that good. That's why I had no problem just saying, you know what, y'all have, uh, you know, flushed a lot of people's hopes and dreams down the toilet, but guess what?


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[Assistant] For this year, I'm believing, and because I'm believing not in necessarily some myth in history and kumbaya, I'm looking at the ingredients y'all got. Look at the names. The names and the track records. These guys have track record names at all of these positions and they finally have a coach.


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[Assistant] Because guess what? They were searching for coaches, quarterbacks, and players at the same time. If you're searching for a coach and a quarterback and players, you're done. Yeaah, the hardest part is solving this.


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[Assistant] Tribalism gives you contacts to your life. Being down the middle doesn't give you any, it doesn't make you feel good about anything. At least if you lose, you can say that somebody else's entity has something to do with it. You feel like you're a part of something. Yes. Nobody, that is a part, a rite of passage now, and especially in sports and politics, hey, you know,


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[Assistant] Either I'm gonna be with the Browns or you against the Browns.


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[Assistant] It, it kind of is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The fans start to feel like, oh wow, this is, we got a, we got a groundswell here, and then it trickles to the players. Wow, this team, these guys are really behind us. But you got-


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[Assistant] I think they do. With noise.


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[Assistant] I think he caught that, he caught it over the middle, in the back of the end zone, and they was getting torched. But man, yeaah, I should have got it.


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[Assistant] Linebacker for the Browns, played for Wisconsin. We thought he was going to be good, but he wa-


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[Assistant] Alright, and then so you got two more. Rams.


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[Assistant] Alright, Saints, who was on the Saints roster? He never played for them. Uhm.


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[Assistant] If you want to come too, come with us. I'm coming with the people's belt. I'mma tell you once this year, I'm pulling out with the people's belt.


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[Assistant] And we gonna get it going. You mean Typhus' belt? That's right.


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[Assistant] We haven't done a final take in a while. Man, you know, this is, you know, with a, with a sad heart, I do gotta do a final take. You know, uhm.


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[Assistant] Earlier, uh, today I got a text message from, uh, Steve. He said, but you're kind of quiet today, man. I said, man, um, I got a text message, uh, from some of my college roommates and, um,


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[Assistant] Uhm, basketball player for Ohio University. Uhm, well known for the team that went down to North Carolina and beat North Carolina in Chapel Hill. Uhm, stayed in the same dorm with me for two years.


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[Assistant] Uh, he passed away at the age of 42. Tragically, uhm, you know, it hit a little different because he was always the guy that was in shape and was always doing extra work and always going to the gym and he was, you know, 245 but he was all, he was a different type of 245.


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[Assistant] Uhm, played a couple years for the Orlando Magic, played for the Boston Celtics, and uhm, like he, he was, you know, a dude who felt he could go to the league, and it was the first time I heard somebody from the Mac just really putting it down like that. Uhm, worked on his game, expanded his game, you know, went from a post player to being able to shoot.


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[Assistant] To be able to handle the dribble to basketball and, you know, that was, they compared him to like the new next Gary Trent down at OU, but it was just. He was after Gary? Yea, he graduated a year before I did in 2004.


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[Assistant] So it hits different because you're like, man, he was just so young. I just remember talking to him a couple months ago. Played, had a long career overseas, but.


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[Assistant] Man, it's just always tough when you, you, people that you know and you lose people that be your same age.


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[Assistant] And, uh, they got so much life to live. So, uhm, you know, unfortunately, shout out to RIP, to Brandon Hunt, B Hunt. Uh, we gonna miss you. And, uh, you know, we hope that your family and friends and prayers to your whole family, uhm, to make it through a tough time. So shout out to B Hunt. It's tough, man.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is a big, when I send, is this a must win every week? But somehow it always comes back to there's it appeared to be a must never a must.


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[Assistant] Well, he said he had COVID yesterday, so we could say he has COVID now. He will get out of his COVID bed and doing the post game show with us, regardless of how he's feeling. So we meet myself, Earl, post game show after the Titans, instant reaction analysis to what we see on the field when the Browns.


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[Assistant] The Tennessee Titans on Sunday on our YouTube page starts at a two minute warning. Make sure you tune in and check it out. Jay, I want to set this next thing up here with my mindset. Last week we talked about whether or not Deshaun Watson was going to have his first true breakout game as a Cleveland Brown. And at the time I had said.


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[Assistant] Steelers defense is tough to do it against, but if you look ahead, and I should never look ahead, but I did, Tennessee's past defense is weak. The weather's gonna be perfect on Sunday. Nick Shub's not playing because he's hurt, which means it may be a more pass happy offense. If I'm a chef looking to make a master dish,


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[Assistant] This game against this opponent in this stadium with this weather has all the ingredients.


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[Assistant] To come together as the Shawn Watson's breakout game. Am I crazy for thinking that way?


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[Assistant] So this is a quote from his press conference today. Anthony, you can play it whenever you're ready. Mike, take it full.


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[Assistant] But form with defense writers, let me ask you this, because I set this topic up and we kind of went off and that's fine, but real quick around the horn, are the ingredients there for Sunday to be his breakout game? Or am I over-