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[Assistant] Tell us about the competition there. How do you, how do you think it stacks up overall? Like, are the teams kind of fairly balanced? Are the players, is it really good competition in your opinion?


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[Assistant] No, just compare it to yourselves in that league. Like how good do you think the competition is? And are the teams fairly evenly balanced, do you think?


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[Assistant] You know, it's good, I mean, it's a good point, because if you're thinking about the NFL in this moment, like, you gotta play, if you play great in the USFL, then you probably get an opportunity, right? But like, if you're, if all you're doing is thinking about the NFL, you're not gonna play your best football, and then you're not gonna get that chance, I would say.


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[Assistant] By the way, I was trying to find his sack totals from last year. It's like impossible to find.


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[Assistant] I have. He did. Good. Oh, did we not discuss this? No. You weren't, that's right. I wasn't here last week. So,


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[Assistant] Good not great. Didn't live up to expectations then. No. Damn, I was hoping it would be great. It was weird. They made a very weird choice.


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[Assistant] The negotiation was really with, according to the movie, I don't know if this is true in real life, was with the mom. So his mom and dad, or the actors playing his mom and dad, were in the movie and the mom featured somewhat prominently.


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[Assistant] I know he's not Michael, but he's an all-time great basketball player. And in that Lakers show, the guy playing magic was awesome.


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[Assistant] It was weird that they did that. It made it so awkward. I mean, I thought Ben Affleck's role wasn't actually huge in the movie, but Matt Damon was really good and Chris Tucker was in it. Oh wow, really? He hasn't really done anything recently. No, he hasn't. And he played like the guy who like was the go-between to Michael.


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[Assistant] The movie makes it seem like he had almost nothing to do with the deal that it was his mom that did it.


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[Assistant] By the way, I was highly insulted by you, G. Bush, yesterday. Because somebody, I'm not going to say who it was, says, oh, G. Bush just bought a house. And I say, how do I not know? I see G. Bush almost every day. G. Bush, you bought a house? You didn't tell us you bought a house.


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[Assistant] It was a little awkward, like the first minute or two, but then we actually ended up talking for 20 minutes. Good, good.


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[Assistant] That's all I heard. You know what? He did get some, he had some Tylenol PM last night. He did. Oh man. I'd say he worked hard and passed out. Yep.


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[Assistant] He went the other way. I said he wasn't gonna get it. I think he needed it with 33 to 32.


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[Assistant] Everybody be talking about me being somebody that's working a lot.


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[Assistant] That was the game, second quarter. You know what, I purposely wore this shirt today because it was what needed to be done. You know, it was one of the, the reason I took the under on Donovan is because I thought, Donovan has to see what he has on this team. First game, game one, he gonna let you know, alright, listen, I'm that guy.


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[Assistant] You know, I've done it with Utah, I've taken over this thing, but I need you guys to grow. In order to let this team grow, you gotta take a step back and let them go one time. See what they got. And Darius Garland obviously had that.


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[Assistant] Man, Darius looked like that dude. And the dude that I thought that he was, he was that guy. I mean, he was hitting big shot after big shot. And then on top of that, he was getting his teammates involved. He looked like the guy that we seen last year in the play-in and all of those guys that we came to love.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I thought Evan Mobley had a good game. Uhm, obviously I think he had like a, I want to say he had a double-double. Yeaah. And Jared Allen was one point shot. Yeaah, and then I liked, I liked the Karras Laverto off the bench. Yeaah, he was awesome. You know, he started the second half, it was big. I think he had twenty, maybe?


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[Assistant] Played to the end of the whistle. It was no letoff from the first to second half. If they play like that, this game can be over in five. Gee, Darius Garland last night was him.


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[Assistant] Our Coral got to do, this is, you got to do something man. He's playing with no confidence whatsoever. And that's sad because right before he got hurt, remember he hit the game winner and all of that and he was doing well. So I don't know what's happened to him. He got to find that confidence back. I mean they were saying that he was the guy that was


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[Assistant] First in the gym, last to leave shooting over a thousand shots a day and I don't know, maybe the injury is making him not be able to do such, do that thing anymore, but he needs to figure it out because we need something, at least the six, something.


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[Assistant] With him, if you ain't gonna give it to me offensively, you gotta give it to me.


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[Assistant] That's right. You can't not have neither one.


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[Assistant] Well, my favorite play was actually against Julius Wren. I think it was in the second quarter.


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[Assistant] They, it was like a loose ball. Julius Randall gets the ball and Mowgli strips him first. He gets it back. He tries to go up again. So Spider strips it out and it's out on Julius Randall. So it lets you know that this team is scrappy like that. And that's the attitude that you need. Every possession matters to the Cavs right now and they continue to play like that.


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[Assistant] They watched Big Nuggets break down the rebound and things. Yeaah. So they got it together. But you know what, it's impressive that they are playing like that because, you know.


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[Assistant] One thing about Yanis is this. Yanis will be back and when he comes back he's gonna be phenomenal. I got bucks in five. They're gonna win four in a row I bet. I got bucks in six. Okay.


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[Assistant] Jimmy's gonna have one of those games. We're gonna have one of those games. Lakers trying to go up 2-0 tonight.


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[Assistant] Did you hear something, Bull? Did somebody let you know? I wish. If I was the cast, I'd go out to McHale Bridges, see if the Nets would let him go. Well, what are you going to give up for him? I don't know. I don't know. But I would try. Man. He'd be nice in this. You think the Suns would want to reverse that train right now? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I tell you what about this Nixon calf game. Now that it's back in the garden.


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[Assistant] For your bet, whenever they play what is in two days, take the over on Donovan.


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[Assistant] Cause he, he's gonna have to play like that to let everybody, cause it, it could be overwhelming to some people, you know, play off basketball in the garden, it could be scary, you know, they could have some more jitters again, but Donovan's gonna be the one like, listen, I got us for a while.


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[Assistant] I mean, are you, you want him to be the mobility that we've seen towards the end of the year, for sure, offensively. That guy was scoring like 20 and 30 points, but like I said, playoff basketball, they're not going to allow him to get that type of stuff. He would have to truly put that jump shot in his repertoire and be comfortable shooting it for him to get that many points.


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[Assistant] You know, maneuvering around all them picks, that take a lot out of a defender.


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[Assistant] De'Aaron Fox just came out and said that it's tough. You gotta be in shape to check Steph Curry. You remember J.R. Smith did the podcast and said, Deli almost died trying to check Steph Curry. That was great. That video was awesome from J.R. So, he almost lost his life and he did.


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[Assistant] Times wouldn't admit it if he did. I would. Would she like to dress you? No, cause I'm too drippy.


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[Assistant] So would you, would you rather him or would you rather Danny Green or would you continue to keep Danny Green? I think it would be one of those things if I was to start Danny Green.


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[Assistant] He wouldn't play a ton of men, like I would have to have some quick rotations with him. But would you rather see Danny Green in that lineup just because he does at least give you that three ball and he gives you that playoff experience?


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[Assistant] I only got, I got two. I got this one and I got, I had a sports hernia.


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[Assistant] What do you think the Knicks, if you're, so you're Tom Thibodeau.


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[Assistant] How do you address and what do you change about your game play to be able to win game three against the Cavs?


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[Assistant] Yeah, they did. They needed all that. Was your question for the rest of the playoffs or for the rest of this series? Uh, that's a good question. I think that matters.


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[Assistant] Okay, but it's serious. I think they'll be fine with, with Jetty because...


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[Assistant] Like he said, you always had those twins. Now, Evan Mobley won't be in the paint cause Julius Randall has the threat of shooting threes. So that pulls Evan out of the paint, but Jared is always going to be down there because they have a true center. They go against like Milwaukee where Brooke Lopez is pulling them out the paint cause he shoot threes. See now it becomes a thing. By the way, I, by the way, I,


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[Assistant] He got a huge ceiling that everybody talks about. Like I said, if he, when he developed that consistent jumper, his game would be, and he got to put on, obviously got to put that weight. No doubt, no doubt. Cause he got, they definitely be de-boying him a little bit now.


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[Assistant] Right. At that point, at that point, it'd be crazy. It'd be ridiculous. What would you be willing to give up to get that? That's the problem.


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[Assistant] I'm interested in it. I gotta look up the upcoming free agents for this, this season. Oh, that'll be a big topic. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] Then I'm done with it. That's where I'm at too. I think you have to keep them in the mix because when people, one thing that great defense creates offense, if you get a good possession, a good steal, that turns into a fast break. So that right there is something that he has the ability to do.


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[Assistant] Six? I put it seven. Because, so you putting, you bringing him in for a choral. Say your chorus is the starter, you bringing him in for a choral. Well. Because.


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[Assistant] Obviously it was a doubleheader. You know, the first one, I think it was what one to nothing in the first. No, it was second game was one to four for three. Yeah, we lost. We got out hit terribly. I mean, it was they have 14 hits on us. So obviously the pitching wasn't up to par.


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[Assistant] A lot of runs got scored. It just, you know, the, the, the, the guardians started this season off.


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[Assistant] Really hot on the bat side. And then obviously, obviously you know how that baseball season goes. It goes up, down, up, down, up, down.


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[Assistant] And right now they kinda, you know, it's, we getting towards the bottom of it, but they, they tried to, to come back and make some good hits and make some plays. But like I said, at the end of the day, our pitching is not where it is right now. Our bullpen is not as strong as I thought it was. It might be tired down from all the games that they.


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[Assistant] Been rotating those guys and yeaah, Detroit just embarrassed us and it went good.


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[Assistant] That's the most disappointing part that I thought for a second like, okay, it's fair. They put it out there to the world that they got the ability to do it. But right now,


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[Assistant] I thought he was, didn't he go on, G knew go on Twitter and say, he didn't want to play the slot or no. He said when they put that pro football came out with her, he retweeted that and said, like, y'all just looking for stories.


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[Assistant] And the thing about G knew that he got all everybody is that he does have the ability to play in the slot. So they're gonna start off with two corners and if, if they do assign it as you got this man for this game, he got the edge because he'll probably do the well, the best if his guy does go to the slot.


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[Assistant] Which they're probably gonna assign him guys that go to the slight anyway because that would be his strong suit. But at the end of the day, Jim Swartz, if it's all about coverage, he probably, look, I need guys that can cover. I don't care if you play inside or outside. I just need you to cover and I need this line to come together. And like I say, they gonna take care of him no matter what. If he stays and does what he's supposed to do and be productive, he gonna have the numbers to back it up and they gonna take care of him.


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[Assistant] I mean, and then on top of that, I need to, I gotta issue this challenge out to Martin Emerson.


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[Assistant] Martin Emerson had a really good rookie season. It was really good. Better than anybody thought that he would do.


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[Assistant] He's a legend. You gotta step his game up even more because how you get paid is based off of all pros. Like you gotta be all pro, but now you got these young guys.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you about this dude. See, Greg, they can pick up a fifth year officer. He gotta wait four years and they gotta do something.


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[Assistant] I thought he was gonna be that deal. Listen, he was locked in. No, he had moments. Now, he's dealt with injury, that's one thing, so that derailed him a little bit, but he had moments last season where he made plays, so he gave you enough


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[Assistant] He won the thing. He won the best center in college. Actually, the Buckeyes won it back to back.


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[Assistant] Let's, let me be fair on this, okay. We gotta be fair. It's not, Joe Wood's defense isn't an aggressive defense. So if the defense isn't required for you to be aggressive, then obviously the attitude is reflected. But it's not just that.


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[Assistant] I agree with you. I agree with you. That's in all the football. That's in all the sports. You gotta have some mean ass. You have to have a guy on your team that'll stab somebody in the club. That's right.


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[Assistant] I do actually, I think that uh, Denzel has, first of all, Denzel has been paid.


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[Assistant] Right, so who cares? So yeaah, so he don't really, it's not a money issue with him because he's already paid. Uhm, but I think I like his athleticism, I think he bends well, obviously he's got


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[Assistant] Some clinic tape on doing what we call a chipmola. That's when you slide under the guard and come around and make the tackle. He, he did that so many times on pulling guards is ridiculous. So he'll be able to get around those blocks, but I think movement wise, he's quick enough.


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[Assistant] Where they were talking about, you know, GNU don't get interceptions. And interceptions do get you paid. One thousand percent. But it is becoming, it's becoming a new day and age where it's about coverage. Now to be in the Hall of Fame, you need about 50 picks to get in. That's about minimal.


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[Assistant] And, and you needed about 10 to go back to the house. Yeah, Reeves changed that cause he's just broke the mold. He, I think he had like 30 something picks in his career, but he just got into the Hall of Fame. But it's a new day where, you know, corner's just not getting their hands on the balls like that as much anymore. Uhm, so you don't really need this.


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[Assistant] So, so I'm glad you brought that up. Me and Sherm had talked about this. So, cause obviously me and Sherm is bump and run guy. That's all we was taught was bump and run. But the problem is the DB's ball skills is becoming a lost art.


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[Assistant] When the ball is in it, it's in college, it's all over the place where these DBs aren't getting their heads around to make plays on the ball. So what do you do?


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[Assistant] You pull them off the ball, you make them play off. So now when I play off, I can see the quarterback the whole time.


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[Assistant] So now I can see if he's taking a three-step, five-step drop. If he's taking a three-step drop, it's quick game. I know I can see.


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[Assistant] If I need to get ready to check this dig, this fade, this comeback, something like that. But they need to see the ball come out the quarterback's hands so they can drive it and make plays on the ball. It's taking the fact of, instead of bumper running, if I get beat off the line,


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[Assistant] I'm playing catch up the whole time and I can't look back for the ball until I get a hand hit relationship to be able to play the ball. And these receivers are so good and so fast that they not getting there. And by the time they get there, the ball is coming, so they gotta play the hand.


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[Assistant] The good thing about that is that, you know, once you get a new coach in there, that does change the culture. You know, you, you want to, obviously they seen what happened last year. It was a Achilles heel for this team last year. So they want to make sure that they strengthen that up and having a new coach in there, bringing some new energy is the right way to get to that. Now, once the season gets going,


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[Assistant] They'll find out if they can really trust Jim Schwartz, which I'm sure they will be able to. Obviously he got Super Bowl experience, but the question will be...


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[Assistant] Adjustments, in-game adjustments. That's something we didn't see last year from Joe Will. They was killing us on something and we just continued to run when we run. When we get into these games, we get into these preseason, they probably ain't gonna do it in the preseason, but when we get into this season, once our offense gets some success on something,


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[Assistant] Does Jim Schwartz draw something up to change it up to nip it in the bud? When he does that, now you got this team, like you got they heart. They'll listen to everything you say because you fixed it and it's something new that we haven't seen. And that's what the best DC's do.


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[Assistant] I mean, Deshaun watches shit. He got other things right now to be thinking about right now.


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[Assistant] He owes this franchise, they paid him some money, he has to do his job and make sure he's the best.


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[Assistant] He loves the game of football and he wants to be, I'm sure he, nobody plays his game just to play it. I mean, I'm sure he wants to be great at it. He wants to get back to being that guy and that's the challenge that he has for himself.


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[Assistant] He can't be worried about what's going on, what people are saying about him. He's got 52 other guys on that team that's depending on him to be that guy that he once was. And if this group is as tight as he says they say they are, they're going to be.


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[Assistant] He's, he don't want to let them down, you know. He understands that.


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[Assistant] His coaches job is on the, on the line this year. Everybody's job is on the line. Whether he does well or not. He's got this relationship and you know, they've taken a chance on him as people want to say, and they looked out for him and looked out for his best interest. He owes them.


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[Assistant] His heart and his soul, they at least go out there and play passionate. And I think the only way to get back to that is to practice and be, have a clear mind and just focus on my guys, being good for my guys. And, and I'm sure those, the people on the Browns are there for him and supporting him and all of that. So yeah, I think his, his quote is exactly right.


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[Assistant] It's a lot. It's a lot to deal with. I mean, it's, cause, I mean, the game of football, just learning the playbook, learning the new system, all of that is tough, but to have all that powered on, it's overwhelming for anybody to just deal with by themselves, and they gotta go through it by themselves. Like, it's a lot. So, it is a nice fresh start for him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, like I said, he needs it and like I said, the Browns do a great job of showing him, giving him love and support and his teammates just being there. You know how good it feels.


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[Assistant] The third, him at 31, I mean like, I don't know if he was still playing or not. He was in the XFL. So like, he was still doing what he loved.


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[Assistant] Health wise, obviously he gotta be good to be able to pass physicals and stuff, so I don't know what it is, but when I got the news, and I seen it, I was sad, I told my wife, cause I had to explain to her who exactly who he was, and to deal with that,


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[Assistant] I feel horrible for the daughter because like. It's just terrible. Like that's. Did you know him by any chance for any reason? I didn't cross paths with him when I was in Cleveland. What a shame.


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[Assistant] We got Bull's Bet brought to us by Bet Rivers and I got a quick story for you guys after. But first, Bull went 2-0 yesterday. Okay. He's now three games over, 510-5 on baseball bets. The man is hot.


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[Assistant] Love Anthony, but he's weak, he's soft, he doesn't say no to bowl. He lets bowl bully him and gives him two bets every day. Anthony, do you want to chime in real quick? It's a fact.


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[Assistant] It's an anarchy. Today though, Bull's going against baseball despite the fact he's been red hot. I'll tell you what the bet is in a sec, but first, as always, it's brought to us by Brett Rivers Sportsbook.


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[Assistant] For Donovan Mitchell, he had 38 in game one. I believe this bet will cash as well. Pretty good odds there. Almost even odds at minus 122 for over 31 and a half points today for Donovan Mitchell. As Brad mikes himself up, I got a little embarrassing story to tell you guys.


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[Assistant] Just so everyone knows, I will not be here the rest of the week. I'm heading down to Texas to help launch a, uh, a pilot version of this show in Texas. So, Anthony and Earl will be taking over. I'm self-suspending myself for three days after yesterday's catastrophe. Uhm, and it has nothing to do with the fact that I was already going to be off in Texas for that.


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[Assistant] This morning, in the last couple days, I've been going over phone calls with the people we have coming on the show. And these guys heard one of them this morning. I completely lost my voice on the phone call.


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[Assistant] I was coughing up a lung, I could barely get a word, I was like, we're gonna be there at 2 o'clock, we're gonna talk about this, that. I've never been more embarrassed. This, it's a guy, Mac Engel, he's a, he's a rangers writer, he's an MLB beat writer for the Fort Worth Telegram. Not even like I'm starstruck, like talking to Steph Curry on the phone or LeBron or Deshaun Watson or Miles Ga-


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[Assistant] Just a normal guy. Completely lost my voice. Couldn't get a single word out. It was the most embarrassing. He's gonna meet, I'm gonna meet him on Thursday and he's gonna be like, I don't trust you. Like I've already ruined what I'm doing in Dallas because I couldn't get a word out.


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[Assistant] Have you ever frozen up like that? I've been scared to like say something, but never like, I have no voice. I could not physically get a word out. It was embarrassing. Like it was terrible.


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[Assistant] Very good hands, they're gonna be, uh, making sure they navigate you guys to the rest of the week. I have the utmost faith they won't screw everything up.


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[Assistant] I genuinely trust him. And also, before we talk Cavs, which we will do in one sec, I do want to remind everybody


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[Assistant] Yeah, we're doing a Cavs post game show. Steve, you can take tag board full. I will not be on it tonight, but G Earl and Anthony will be holding on the fort tonight and Friday for games two and three. It is the Cavs post game show. They will launch that stream with about a minute left in the game and we will go live until we have dissected.


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[Assistant] Everything possible. You see the nugget on there. I'll be back for game four. Games two and three. It's the three to my left on that graphic. Anthony Earl G. Bush holding down the fort. Appreciate you guys. With that being said, let's talk about the game. Game two tonight, man.


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[Assistant] I just want to add one point to what you guys have mentioned to kind of clarify why four on five.


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[Assistant] Is a way bigger issue for this particular casting than it would be for some other teams who can get away with playing a non-shooter.


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[Assistant] On the wing. You already have Mobley and Allen who don't space the floor.


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[Assistant] And when you can put a third defender within six feet of the rim,


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[Assistant] It makes it damn near impossible for Dona Mitchell to get clean looks on his attacks. And as good as he is, he's a frickin' savant, he's a wizard at doing it.


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[Assistant] We're relying on him to do that 15, 20 times a game against literally four defenders. His guy, the guy who's guarding Mowgli who's sagging off, the guy who's guarding Alan who's always around the rim because Alan doesn't leave, and the guy who's guarding the paint because Akuro is just a ghost on the perimeter.


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[Assistant] That's a damn near impossible task to ask him to replicate time after time after time.


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[Assistant] I got a question for you. You know this better than anyone else can answer. There are certain guys throughout the history of basketball where


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter how good defense you play, they're still gonna score. Like Kevin Durant, you could be in his face, hand up, perfect contest. He's gonna make his shot.


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[Assistant] The way Brunson plays, I know he's only 6'1", 6'2", but the way he fades away, the way he uses his body, especially when he, you know, backs down in the post. He cooked Osman, he...


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[Assistant] Does it really matter who the Cavs have on him or is he the kind of player who is impervious to defense just because the way he gets his buckets?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was not Evan Mobley. We got DJ Steffloss in the building. We're going to set him up. So over the next five, six minutes.


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[Assistant] Let's break down the Defensive Player of the Year voting. Not only did Jaren Jackson win,


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[Assistant] But him and Brook Lopez at one and two came in a landslide ahead of Evan Mobley. Now we had this discussion last week. Did we think Evan Mobley was Defensive Player of the Year? Jason, I believe you were on the panel that day.


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[Assistant] And you said you would have voted for him. Are you surprised, maybe not that he didn't win, but at how lopsided the voting turned out to be?


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[Assistant] M.G., before you go, before you go, just so I can read these numbers, I know it's small. Jackson got 391 points. Brook Lopez got 309. Evan Mobley only got 101. Uh, Jackson got 56 first place votes. Lopez got 31. Mobley, 8.


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[Assistant] Nuggets, what we got? Listen, we got a VIP guest in the house. We're going to bring him out in a sec. We're going to do two things first. First, if you are not a member of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports already, the question is


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[Assistant] Talk to my college coach. We broke down some of the Cavs rebounding issues, especially late in the game. When you slow it down, it's even more disgusting when you watch it in person. We're going to play the package. We're going to bring DJ Steph Floss in, the Cavs in-house DJ, the man, the myth, the legend himself. Steve, you can play the package. Anthony, get Steph ready.


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[Assistant] Right here. There's six seconds on the shot clock. Randall's a step behind the three point arc on the opposite side of the court. Now, this is pretty good defense from the Cavs. Osmond does a good job contesting the shot. Three Cavs in help position. When the shot goes up, we're going to rewind this real quick. When the shot goes up, there are three Cavs with a foot in the paint. There is zero excuse for them not to get this rebound. Here's Julius Randall. He's going to come in and split.


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[Assistant] Garland and Mobley, like an open gate. Two Cavs players, we're gonna slow this down in a sec to show you again. Two Cavs players, not a single one.


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[Assistant] Gets a body on Randall and he comes unimpeded in for the offensive rebound.


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[Assistant] Which like I said earlier, essentially seals the win here for the Knicks. He kicks it out to Quentin Grimes, who knocks down two free throws. We're gonna slow this down again for you and show you in slow motion. Watch Randall from right here. Come unimpeded. Take six steps. Never knocked off his path from beyond the three point arc to the paint.


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[Assistant] I have no clue what Darius Garland's doing. Is he trying to take a charge here?


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[Assistant] DJ, what is it? He puts his hands down like he's taking a charge. On a guy crashing the offensive glass and Mobley takes one false step middle. It's like a center fielder.


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[Assistant] Not necessarily mistracking the ball, but you take one step, it's tough to recover. As soon as the shot goes up, he comes in, his head comes to the middle of the court instead of finding a man to box out. And when he does find Randall, it's just too soft.


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[Assistant] You gotta hip check him at that point. You gotta put your body on a body to get him off his path because where this rebound comes, where this ball hits there and comes, it's in between three calves. You have a 6'9 Randall out rebounding two seven footers in the paint and Darius Garland. Now Jared Allen on the weak side here.


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[Assistant] Did an awesome job getting Hartenstein out of rebounding position. Watch Alan.


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[Assistant] Hardenstein takes a bad angle. He is under the rim. He is completely out of the play. No chance for a rebound, but Mobley and Garland, two Cavs.


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[Assistant] Get a body on Randall, make him go around you, make him fight through you, make him value to get there. Instead, unimpeded to the cup, game winning rebound, and essentially,


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[Assistant] That's the story of the game. That's how the Knicks ended up stealing game one at home versus the Cavs. Rebounding is all about effort. All about effort, discipline, and knowing where to be when the shot goes up.


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[Assistant] My coach told me, hey Luke, this looks like watching you back in practice every day. It's unacceptable and that's why, uh, you didn't play nearly as much as you thought you should have. And he's probably got a point, but.


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[Assistant] Gotta put a body on Randall. There's no way in hell he should run unimpeded through two defenders.


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[Assistant] To the basket for an open rebound, especially when the rest of the defensive possession was pretty good all around from the Cavs. Gotta do better in game two if they're gonna come back and tie the series at one game apiece as they head to the garden for game three.


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[Assistant] So what we got? Yeah, real quick. The Lunch Hour, The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is sponsored by Colleague Racing, the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio. I got a question for DJ Steph here, by the way. Yes, sir.


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[Assistant] Steph, my question is, I am, you know, I've been in Cleveland for a year now and I think the Cavs in-game arena and crowd is as good as any NBA crowd I've seen in all my travels. Now I know you travel a lot. You were in Toronto last week. You were with the Cavs on the road a ton. How do you think the Cleveland crowd and the atmosphere of game day environments and rocket mortgage compares to some of the other places around the NBA?


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[Assistant] I see why you're trying to get to Mavs. I see. We took a core class yesterday, me and Steph. Hey Steph, the next topic we get to, and we're going to play a sound bite in a sec. Right now today, as of April 18th, who is the face of Cleveland sports? Which athlete is the face of Cleveland sports?


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[Assistant] So you hear Jason went with Nick Chubb, you heard Brad going with Donovan Mitchell. Let's hear from Bull who's taking a different route and a different answer to this exact same question.


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[Assistant] You want to make the fifth and final case for the potential face of Cleveland sports today.


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[Assistant] You guys have now heard all five. Is there anyone, Brett, anyone you would like to eliminate from this conversation?


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[Assistant] The YouTube chat came out strong. Over 300 answers for this poll question. With 14% of the vote.


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[Assistant] That's not the winner. I'm going reverse order. Okay. This is great. Okay. 14 Deshaun Watson. No. Okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, the question was for today, for April 18th, 2023. Yeah. We're gonna do this again in six months of the day. Half a year. It'll be the middle of football season. We're gonna see if it changes. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yes, because Miles Garrett technically won the de facto, uh, asterisk vote today. He gets the first round by, if I remember in sequence.


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[Assistant] We are going to speak a little bit on Nick Chubb real quick because, and actually we're talking Browns now, which means it is brought to us by our good friends at Electric. They are the experts in welding and manufacturing in the electric field.


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[Assistant] Now hiring, check him out at Lincoln Electric.


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[Assistant] So we know Nick Chubb's not big on social media. Very rarely does anything that gets put out onto the internet make it in front of one Nick Chubb. Except...


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[Assistant] Last week we did this as an overtime segment. Steve, you take tag board full. ESPN put out their top 10 fantasy running backs for the upcoming season and despite the fact that the tell line here covers the bottom, there you go, Ramondre Stevenson comes in at number 10.


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb was not honest, this is fantasy running back rankings.


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[Assistant] Well, this caught the attention of one Nick Chubb. Anthony, give me the next.


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[Assistant] And Nick Chubb put on his Instagram, I wonder what excuses they'll come up with this year. The next set, next slide said it is officially a prove it season for me. We've seen what Nick Chubb can do in a non quote unquote


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[Assistant] Prove it season. What do you think a revenge tour, prove it season, season looks like for the best running back in football?


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[Assistant] Like A&M, she like is very involved with Texas A&M. He's from the A&M area. His mom's the mayor. His mom and Brad, the two most prominent mayors in the history of mayors.


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[Assistant] It is 1236, and the Lunch Out of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is always sponsored by Coli Racing, the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio.


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[Assistant] Our next topic is brought to us by the USFL. We had an awesome interview with Boogie Roberts yesterday of the Maulers. He's already texted me. He wants to come in studio next week. We're going to get him in here.


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[Assistant] He was awesome. Sunday, April 23rd, the USFL is back in Canton. Come celebrate professional football with free t-shirts and rally towels for the entire family. Great seats start at just 10 bucks, so buy your tickets today at USFL.com. It's funny we're talking about


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[Assistant] The USFL with this ad because there was a chance if he believes some certain rumors, which we'll get to in one sec, that the Browns might not be playing.


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[Assistant] And I'll get to whether or not this is true or not in a second. According to the report they put out yesterday, the Haslams, Mayor Bibb, city officials,


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[Assistant] We're working on a plan to rebuild the stadium at its current site.


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[Assistant] Work would begin in 2026. It would not be a dome, it would be an open roof stadium. They would rebuild the entire waterfront area. And that means that Brown would play elsewhere, potentially Canton, maybe Columbus, until the work is done. However,


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[Assistant] However, Channel 3 did its work, and we are affiliated with Channel 3, and they determined, and I'll read the quote,


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[Assistant] Three News has determined that there is no merit to the report of the Browns playing any home games outside of Cleveland. We have checked out all of our sources, including in Columbus, with Ohio State, and with the Browns, essentially debunking this theoretical plan to revamp the Lakefront area of the Brown Stadium.


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[Assistant] With the assumption that this is a total bogus report. And Darryl Ryder and some other guys confirmed it as well.


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[Assistant] What'd you think of the idea, at least, to rebuild the waterfront, rebuild downtown?


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[Assistant] We got about ten minutes left here in the show. We got two things I wanna get to real quick. Uh, we quickly touched on...


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[Assistant] Evan Mobley and not winning Defensive Player of the Year earlier and we just received word from one Mr. Mike Polk about how Evan Mobley is handling the news. This is an exclusive report from one Mike Polk. Uh, he sent this just for us. Mike, how's Evan Mobley handling this? Take a seat.


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[Assistant] Hard-hitting stuff there from the comedic mind of Mike Paul.


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[Assistant] Then last thing, uh, that we have to get to, then we can fill the last minute or two with some cap stuff. But I'm not sure you guys saw this or not, but unfortunately...


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[Assistant] Uh, Chris Smith, former Brown, passed away this morning at the age of 31. He played for seven NFL teams, most notably the Jaguars and the Browns. Myles Garrett addressed this at his, uh, media conference this morning, said he was the kind of guy that would give anything, his shirt off his back if you needed it, was one of his favorite teammates of all time.


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[Assistant] I don't remember Chris being in Cleveland. This is before my time here. Jason, did you ever have an interaction with Chris?


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[Assistant] On the flip side, and there's no real good transition off something like that, so.


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[Assistant] In the last three minutes. Did I scare you, Anthony?


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[Assistant] Oh, Anthony like popped up, I thought I scared him. In the last three minutes here guys, let's go back. One player tonight, outside of, you can't say Donovan Mitchell.


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[Assistant] One player tonight that has to have a stellar game for the Cavs to win.


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[Assistant] And last question before we head out of here. Game on the line again.


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[Assistant] Brunson, Endor, Randall has the ball. Let's go with Brunson because it was Osmond last time. Who's in the game for the Cavs guarding Brunson on the final possession?


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[Assistant] There we go. Overtime coming up, we are going to draw our best Browns dog logos and vote on what to actually submit in the Browns contest. They are taking fan submissions for a new logo. That was an Earl the Pearl topic that the Browns have taken from us.


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[Assistant] You can have it. Just give us the Sean Watson in for an interview and exchange. I think it's a fair trade. We're going to draw our own and we will see you tomorrow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm a little disappointed. Uhm, I think it's a great learning experience.


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[Assistant] Uh, for us though, because uhm, you know, with Donovan coming in for the first time and.


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[Assistant] Uh, getting his feet wet. It was good to see him, um, injury free during the playoffs because I know he's had some, some challenges in Utah in the past. And then our big man, I think that, you know, that that was some great experience for our big man to Allen and Mobley to be able to get that experience.


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[Assistant] Um, naturally may have to get in the weight room a little bit, but, um, overall, I think, you know, with Garland and everybody, keep everybody together, keep your spirits up. We have a great coach, uh, but you know, we have some work to do.


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[Assistant] Uhm, well personally, I'm a cavalier to my heart.


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[Assistant] And so, uh, that will never change. I think it depends on how old you are.


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[Assistant] Some people, you know, who are younger see me as more of a timber wolf to some.


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[Assistant] And my time in Milwaukee was just very brief, only a year and some change.


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[Assistant] But, uh, my years, you know, it's like your first kiss.


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[Assistant] I'm a Cleveland Cavalier, and uhm, that's what most people look at me as.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's a perfect question. I love that. Uh, coming into, uh, you know, I got drafted in 91.


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[Assistant] And it was, it was intimidating. You know, you have Mark Price, Larry Nance, Brad Doherty.


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[Assistant] John Hyrock Williams, Winston Bennett, Craig Elo, John Battle, Coach Steve Kerr, you know, all these veterans and


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[Assistant] And, uh, coach Lenny Wilkins, he really gave me the blueprint early on. It was like what you did in college was nice, but coming here, this is what I want. I want you to look at the, uh, the, the score and when it were up five points.


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[Assistant] Then when I take you out, I want to be up at least five points. It wasn't about how many points I scored in that quarter.


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[Assistant] He taught me about possessions. He taught me about being a pro. And once I got my opportunity, you know, trying to replace Mark Price, it was not easy.


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[Assistant] You know, from a fan's perspective, you know, Mark Price was, he's a great. And so, uh,


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[Assistant] Coach Lindy, Coach, uh, Mark, uh, uh, uh, excuse me, uh, Mike Fratello and, uh, Mr. Wayne Emory. They saw something in me and felt like I was ready and I got my opportunity and.


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[Assistant] Once I made the All-Star team that first year, I got my opportunity. I think that's when...


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[Assistant] The media and the fans, they really embrace me and say, okay.


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[Assistant] This, this little kid ready. Yeah, yeah. And, and, and everybody saw me when I came up. I wasn't, uh, I didn't get traded. So I came in as a young buck and was behind Mark Price every year showing what I could do, trying to be the best backup point guard in the league.


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[Assistant] I was hurt. I was hurt. I was hurt. I got the call and I had been going to work out the gun arena that's coming from Richfield. So I know all the tradition. I'm going through it and I'm going through my seventh year in the league and I get a call and it says, uh,


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[Assistant] Terrell, this is Wayne and I have a friend and a family member in Cleveland, Wayne Bender. So I said, what's up Wayne? What's going on? And he said, no, this is Wayne Emory. I said, Mr. Emory? And he said, yes. And he said, I have coach Mike Fratello and Mr. Gunn on the phone. And you know, my antennas go up and they said it's been a trade.


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[Assistant] And the first thing I said was, okay, uhm, where am I going? And they said, you know, Ben Baker and Thurman Douglas is going from Milwaukee to Seattle. And you and Tyrone Hill is going from Cleveland to Milwaukee. And then when he said Sean Kemp is going from Seattle to Cleveland.


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[Assistant] That kind of took the sting out of it. Cause I'm like, okay, at least I can say for the rest of my life, I got traded for a superstar.


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[Assistant] It's wild because now remember I've been in Cleveland for six years. So I have a lot of things accumulated in my apartment and all of a sudden it changes so fast from, okay, what am I going to do? I have two or three weeks to go from Cleveland to Milwaukee, uh, before training camp. I have to leave the next day, you know, to take a physical in Milwaukee and then come back to Cleveland and they have to talk to my realtors and pay up rent.


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[Assistant] And then have my family come down and take care of everything. You know, I have piranhas in my spot and everything, so I gotta make sure that.


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[Assistant] They've taken care of, and then now I have to get an accumulation of clothes. But I'm living in a hotel. Because, you know, I don't know anything about Milwaukee yet. So all these factors and...


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[Assistant] You know, my car and what am I gonna do with my truck? I need something to, you know, get from A to B. It happens so fast and you really have to just slow down.


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[Assistant] And organize and really, really get your life in perspective in a real short amount of time. Cause Milwaukee, they want me there in training camp playing with Ray Allen and the big dog and I got to get myself together.


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[Assistant] Check us out. My late mom. Rest in peace, my mom, Charlotte Brandon. She hated it. When she came and saw me, I put the goldfish in and I turned the lights off.


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[Assistant] And she said, oh, that is so pretty. Those goldfish is so pretty, son. I said, yes. And then she saw the piranhas was, was ate like, like the head and left the tail. She said, Oh my.


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[Assistant] No, no, not at all. I haven't played in 23 years. Wow. Two, three years. Wow. I couldn't imagine y'all for real going out and playing for fun. You know, I haven't played for fun since I was in the second grade.


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[Assistant] You know, I had a goal in mind. And so to go out and like, some people say just go shoot some hoops. I don't know what that means.


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[Assistant] And I can't do that. So I might as well just leave it watch. Interesting.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would stick with those four. Absolutely. I mean, they're all young. You know, they seem like they're all coachable.


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[Assistant] You know, I think shot selection has to be emphasized a lot, particularly in the playoffs, which I feel that because we're so young.


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[Assistant] That we can learn from that. We can, you know, the team can watch film and say, you know, once we get in this position again, because if you want to be a great team.


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[Assistant] You would invent a playoff contention team every year, you will get into the same position again. Once we get in this position again, that's be more confident.


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[Assistant] The cast, we turned down a lot of shots that fourth quarter as well. A lot of good shots. And sometimes that can become from mental fatigue. You know what I'm saying? Because it's a long season. We can learn from that.


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[Assistant] You know, I was talking to someone today, I was actually watching, uhm, Golden State last night, and, uh, one of Play Thompson's, he had that clutch, uh, jump shot in the corner, and I said, wow, when we played, that would have been a terrible, great shot. You know?


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[Assistant] The times have changed and they didn't emphasize the three pointer as much as they do now, of course. They called them marksmen back in the 80s and 90s, like a Chuck person or...


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[Assistant] Adele Ellis, someone, you know, Hershey Hawkins, guys who really Mark Price, guys who really shot those. Now, there's a lot of players shooting threes.


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[Assistant] You know, even on, you know, three on two, two on one, fast break, they're stopping at the three point line.


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[Assistant] And they're firing up. So if I was playing right now, I would put more emphasis on the three-point line. That's for sure.


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[Assistant] Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It was a bad shot. But then what happened was with me, uhm,


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[Assistant] Coaches couldn't emphasize it being a bad shot. That was, you know, 18, 19 feet. But coaches had to kind of renege on what they were saying.


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[Assistant] Sorry. So all y'all admitted you can't shoot now. Well, I can't. Wake up.


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[Assistant] Okay, check this out. All of you, raise your hand right now.


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[Assistant] Either way you raise your hand, I'll pick my man in the middle.


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[Assistant] I totally agree. I would just own, uh, a series with Rick Mahorn.


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[Assistant] What was that voice? Yeah. Totally agree. You know, I wish that...


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[Assistant] You know, maybe, uh, Mr. Alan Silver can just go and say, listen, cause he's from that era. I remember him when he was a general back in the day with, uh, Mr. Stern.


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[Assistant] And he understands where us former players and people like you is coming from.


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[Assistant] That's why Draymond Green and other people are so draw back by that style.


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[Assistant] But people like us, man, you know, you gotta have somebody on your team that the elevator don't go to the top floor.


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[Assistant] Oh man, Curly was real cool, man. He was just real quiet and real reserved and we got along extremely well. He was, he was nothing controversial about him at all. Nothing.


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[Assistant] I was surprised because this particular time price was out and I was starting against the Celtics.


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[Assistant] Man, he, he was a legend for real. And he let us know, I'm going to go over here with 2.1 seconds.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna go like this, shoot back, you know that.


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[Assistant] I'm not admitting to that. I'm not admitting to that.


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[Assistant] And he just blew my ear out for four years. It was like during the renovation.


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[Assistant] I did two with bronze, so that means 2008 to 2010, so 2008 to now, this is my 15th season.


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[Assistant] Well, to my knowledge, uhm, Cleveland had one of the first in-arena DJs. Uhm, shout out to my guy Mick Boogie. Yeah. Uhm, I came, like, you know, right after him, uhm, paused. But, uhm, he was, uhm, he was very instrumental in, you know, getting the in-arena DJs.


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[Assistant] And to the, you know, just the whole culture of NBA basketball. I think at the time it was maybe him and there was the Denver Nuggets might had a DJ, but he was nowhere near as good as Mick.


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[Assistant] What's my guy name? Big Tigger in DC. So they were, they were like three of the first. So Mick Boogie was doing that. And then, you know, he decided to move to New York. I had, you know, been accompanying him to a games. I was very familiar with it. I was a pretty good DJ, had great relationship with the, you know, with the team, with the players, with Brian. So it was just an easy transition. So.


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[Assistant] Like shout out to Mick Bookie and shout out to the Pioneers, but like they, they saw something in that, in that, you know, in that arena that needed to be fixed. Um, as opposed to just having the stock, just, yeah, just stock music and things like that.


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[Assistant] Especially during like the pregame, uhm, I catered to it. So now there's a new thing. I'm on the court.


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[Assistant] Very early, like when the guys are out there doing their warm-ups before the bowl opens and when the bowl opens. Uhm, and you know, our players, our star players especially, they have very specific requests of songs that they want to hear. You know what I'm saying? So you know, one player wants to hear this when they're out there, I cater to them. We have another player who happens to be from New York.


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[Assistant] That loves New York music, so I, and they're star players, so I play New York music for them. You can figure out who that is.


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[Assistant] They gotta find some reason. So I'll take, I'll take the blame for that. Don't blame my guys on the court for game one. We got game two. Game one loss is on me cause I played too much.


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[Assistant] Uhm, the, our, uhm, fan appreciation game cause he was starting. So I wanted to make sure he was happy and comfortable. Uhm, and what I really like about DG is he loves all kinds of music.


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[Assistant] You know, like, of course he loves a little baby, he loves, um, you know, things like that. But, um, there are some female artists that he asks me, he requests me to play, that I play, and he loves it, he goes crazy. Throughout history, a lot of guys have not requested


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[Assistant] I gotcha, I gotcha. I did last game. It's so crazy, people have selective memory, like I did last game, but people, they hear what they want to hear.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So the music is for the players up until


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[Assistant] After tip-off, solely. I mean, of course we want the crowd to be involved. We do that for you guys. But like, think about if you're an athlete and you're out, just think about high school sports. You're out there in the layup line. You want to hear songs that are going to get you ready to play. If I'm playing stuff for you,


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[Assistant] If I'm playing stuff that you do not like at all, you're going to be like, yo, what's going on? Like, I need to get amped. So I try to cater to the guys all the way, uhm, I mean throughout the game, but especially all the way until tip off.


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[Assistant] Well, there are specific songs that, uhm, the players have when they score and things like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, musical director Sabo, he handles that, so that's really easy. I mean, and then it's like, it's some of the, I mean, you hear when they score the songs that are played, and these are some of their favorite songs. And we did like a survey with the players at the beginning of the season.


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[Assistant] And put together like a, it might be on Cavs.com, like a list of their songs. So your music director does your arrangements?


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[Assistant] The best I've ever seen in the NBA in any arena. Like I've traveled to a lot of arenas.


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[Assistant] But the in-game experience is, is nowhere compared to ours, man, between our hosts, man. Big shout out to Amai, big shout out to Nicole, big shout out to our new host, big shout out to me, big shout out to Sabo, big shout out to Kosher cuz like, there's like, yeaah, I mean look, there's nothing, there's no in-game


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[Assistant] Cause I started off with crates. And then it switched to Serato. So, both of my setups on the court.


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[Assistant] Technique 1200's for people who don't know. Right. I use Technique 1200's. I got two Technique 1200's. I still use vinyl and I use the S9. Now night clubs, I typically do like CDJ's and stuff like that. Right. But like at the game, I have needles. I got needles. So for the leg?


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[Assistant] Oh they're using a uhm, a uhm, like a tracker or uhm, a uhm, I just asked somebody, a controller.


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[Assistant] I've done a lot of them. We could do, we could do some more. We could do some more. I was just, I was just talking, I was just talking to my guy Rich about that. Like so, we got something maybe coming into work. I'm, I'm going to be very honest. We do need, this is going to be controversial, so you know what I'm not going to say.


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[Assistant] But what's the, what's the formula? Because, I mean, there have been people who have made anthems and are constantly making anthems and nothing has picked up like Cleveland Rocks. Not that I'm saying I don't like Cleveland Rocks, but I just think maybe, I mean, it's 25 years old. It's seen as day.


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[Assistant] No, I need Cleveland to understand, we've been used to losing game once.


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[Assistant] Like, even when Brown was here, we lost several game ones, and we were all like, Cleveland, relax, right, right.


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[Assistant] I mean that's, that's hard to say cause if I'm in a building it's gonna be a movie so it's not gonna be dead anyway so, like I bring the movie with me so I don't know.


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[Assistant] Alright, so if I have a song that's new and I play it and I'm not sure of the reaction, do I have a song? It just depends on the crowd too. You know, like Cleveland crowds are different, like if you go out in Cleveland,


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[Assistant] There are like two different crowds, like, and each crowd is like 90%.


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[Assistant] What song, you know what, he doesn't, he goes with, he hasn't really specifically requested a song.


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[Assistant] He has a, there's a, there are teams, there's songs that the entire team listens to. Right. It's, uh, I can't even say, I can't say the name of the song they all love right now.


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[Assistant] Pre-game, he's focused on that. He's never come over. I mean, he'll give you nods and stuff. He'll like the music, but he's not like...


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[Assistant] The face of Cleveland sports? Today. Today. The face of Cleveland sports. By far.


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[Assistant] Ride the, uh, devil rays wave. That's what you should do.


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[Assistant] Well, to be fair, the jersey was really good. Fire. I like the bullish jersey.


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[Assistant] They had the gold, the gold with the white stripe with the stars on it. It was nasty.


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[Assistant] I mean, I would definitely do my due diligence on seeing what we can do with it. Uhm, obviously, you know, linebacker is a position of need right now.


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[Assistant] Top guys have, are, that we resigned Anthony Walker and Taki Taki, they're coming off an ACL injury. So we don't know, you know, exactly when they'll be ready. We think that obviously that Anthony Walker would be ready for the start of the season, which he should be.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but this guy right here, I mean, when he's playing and he's interested and he's going.


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[Assistant] This guy is sidelined and sidelined. I mean, when I watched him about two, two or three years ago, the year they won the Super Bowl, this dude was, he played the game like you want it, like you want a linebacker to play, like old school. It didn't matter where the ball was at. He hawked it down and he came with some violent intentions. So.


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[Assistant] The only thing that worries me is that he is right now in the 3-4. Obviously the Browns play a 4-3, so it'd be a little transition for him.


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[Assistant] I think he's perfect because he can get sideline to sideline, but it does make you not react as fast because you know somebody else's, it's somebody's responsibility already to get here. So it's the outside linebacker will cut the ball back.


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[Assistant] That next linebacker that's in the middle is his play to make, but if he doesn't, he has to send it back and now you come make the play. That's typically how linebackers play.


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[Assistant] This plays from the box, obviously those receivers come out a little bit, so he's not even in the count. You need your D-ends now to make those plays cut back, and now them linebackers gotta be able to get sideline to sideline.


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[Assistant] And I hear, I hear the argument on Devon White, you know, with the, somebody was saying that


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[Assistant] He had a low PFF grade in the run. I think, I think, what is it, 42nd McNuggets? He ranked 42nd.


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[Assistant] I think for me, what I need to see is, does he, does he mis-tack?


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[Assistant] Like I think that's uh, that's something that's key and how well does he do in coverage? When they, cause obviously the Browns are gonna run.


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[Assistant] A lot of one and a lot of three, so can he get to his hook, his hook dropper and be able to play that? Cause we know he got the speed and the talent to run the ball down if his ran. We know the Browns have done things to try to plug up those inside gaps with the defensive tackles that they've signed.


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[Assistant] We need a guy now who can be a leader on defense, who can command the defense, who got some Super Bowl experience, and that can get win this passing game, since if we're gonna run a 4-2-5 anyways, we need this guy to be able to do his hook responsibilities, and we know that.


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[Assistant] Well let me ask you this, and I'll ask you since you are totally out on this.


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[Assistant] Say that the asking price for him was, Will played the third round pick for the Browns. One of your third round picks. Would you make that trade in knowing that you probably won't pay him?


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[Assistant] Just for a one year rental? No. No, I need more than one year out of it. Okay.


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[Assistant] They looking at them PFF grades and they saying, and they're going to say, why would we pay you if your numbers is like this?


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[Assistant] I think, well you gotta think about, is it, is it the player or is it the scheme? Like, okay, he's in a 3-4, maybe he's not a 3-4. I don't know what they ran at LSU, maybe he's not a 3-4, maybe he's a 4-3 type of guy.


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[Assistant] I mean, you gotta think about the, what skill set are you looking for out of these wide receivers?


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[Assistant] Okay, so you got, you signed two of them this offseason. So...


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[Assistant] I mean, how much more do you want? I'm green. Clearly. Now you do, you do know that both of these receivers that you, you signed can play inside and outside, right? Yeah. So there's a, there's possibility that you could see a,


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[Assistant] He's fast. See, yeaah, that's the, the 4-4 is, you know.


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[Assistant] 446. Google it. It's always there. If you ever question it, just Google it. You want to switch to the other side of the ball? Nope. Nope.


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[Assistant] I do think that what he brings, if, if the leadership thing, it's the Warren Sapp thing that's kind of messing me up, but if he goes, but he got that, that mentality that you need in a linebacker, somebody that's old school, see ball, get ball type of guy, and the Browns were missing that last year. However, the reason that I'm not so,


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[Assistant] Necessarily that concerned about the run game. Now, don't get me wrong, I still need to see it. I need to go, when the preseason and the season come around, I need y'all to get some stops at, on the run side.


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[Assistant] But on paper and the way that they've handled this all season, I think they've done exactly what you should do.


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[Assistant] The only, the only thing about the GNU trade, well first of all, I personally wouldn't trade GNU, I think that


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a lot of riff raff about this nickel position, but I think the thing about him is he does have the luxury of playing inside and outside.


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[Assistant] The reason that when I told y'all last year when I realized that he actually is the, he's starting to figure this nickel thing out was when they played the Texans. I watched him break on the ball and do his responsibility as a nickel correctly and I said okay, I see it. Like I see the vision now. I see you can finally do it.


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[Assistant] To me, I think it's all about, obviously, Nichols don't get paid that much money. Now with his situation...


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[Assistant] The problem is that teams don't run base a lot, so he's not gonna get a lot of outside reps. And that's where he's losing his value a little bit, but I think the Browns will give him a pretty, a pretty good deal for, cause they understand that he wants the big money.


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[Assistant] Okay, they don't want to let him go and they, they, they know that they're putting him in this situation to where he can't get the money. So they'll take care of him and give him a, it won't be a crazy hundred million dollar deal, but it won't be 40 million.


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[Assistant] You got a, you got a possibility to have a really good secondary. You got, you got Juan Thornhill, a true post safety. You've already had the three guys that you, well not three, you had.


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[Assistant] Denzel Martin Emerson became a really good guy. And you got G knew who finally came on late as a nickel. Like this thing is finally looking like it can work. And now you telling me you want to trade together.


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[Assistant] That's tough. That's really tough.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm keeping Lamar, I'm trading Justin, I'm cutting Deshaun.


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[Assistant] The only reason that I'ma keep Lamar over both of the other two is because Lamar is the only one out of everybody on this list that has not blown a playoff game.


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[Assistant] You get the most back for Herbert. You do. These are all tough. You ready for number two?


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[Assistant] Well, I'm glad you said that. In fantasy, are you gonna take him if he's available? Derek Henry? Or what round are we in?


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[Assistant] Well the thing about it is they, they do a great job of protecting him. You know, people get mad over the 20 carries, him not getting the 20 carries. It's because they're, they're thinking about the longevity of his career. We, we've seen Ezekiel Elliott get 30 carries and he, now he's where he's at. We've seen Derrick Henry finally last year caught up to him and finally got him an injury.


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[Assistant] The time, every time you run those runner backs into the ground, they only good for a few years. But if you...


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[Assistant] Just plan it out strategically. He gets 17, 18 carries and Nick Chubb has been effective. He was third in rushing last year with not even a lot of attempts.


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[Assistant] Well I think that, I think what they did was they looked at it.


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[Assistant] Cause they had, they had two examples. They had two prime examples of running. You had Zeke and you had Derrick Henry. The Cowboys and the Titans rode those two running backs. None of them ever got to the championship game. So they said to themselves, well let's not do that. Now Zeke is where the point where his knees aren't that great.


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[Assistant] We seen him on the return side, so he got vision, which is great for a running back. He can take some of those hits off of Nick Chubb. You got two guys that's effective. This thing can go for a long time. And Deshaun Watson never makes it back. Obviously we know we need great quarterback play to win it all, but each quarterback that's won the Super Bowl outside of Kansas City has had some help from the run game.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. And I want to trade him, but he not going to give me anything. So I would trade on you.


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[Assistant] Like Terry, Terry is obviously the youngest. He, with no quarterback, he's...


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[Assistant] This dude. Well, he got Sam Howell and Jacobi Brissette. And he got Eric Bienemi calling the plays.


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[Assistant] That's, I'm right there with you. Even though Palmer, Palmer probably will get you more back because he had a very productive season. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Cuz, cuz you gotta remember, Kenan Allen and Mike Williams went out, so he became like the number one receiver for them. And you don't, uh,


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[Assistant] Dude spread the ball around, he was eager. Would you give up a two for him?


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[Assistant] I think, I think Elijah Moore has more upside. I do too. But I don't think the league might not understand that. If you're going off of just last year's stats, obviously we know what Elijah Moore had to deal with with the Zach Wilson, but his stats alone, Josh Palmer balled last year. I like him. I like him.


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[Assistant] But I think Elijah Moore got a chance to be really special. It could be a real steal for the Browns.


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[Assistant] You want to know something funny? Last year before the season, we argued who was Debrow's second offensive, best offensive, and we all hands down said Kareem Hunt over Amari Cooper. Sure did. Well, I wasn't here that day because I didn't


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[Assistant] I would trade Evan Ingram cause people would look at him cause at 404 he ran and he did, he actually made himself a lot of money last year working with T Law and Odd Cut.


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[Assistant] No, the joku, I'm taking it because if the joku when they got hurt, he would have had probably been second or third in receiving.


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[Assistant] I'm not mad at it though. I mean, like I said, Evan Ingram had a monster year, but that's the thing. It's like he either gonna be really good or he's gonna be really bad. So that's the thing. I think I picked him up in fantasy.


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[Assistant] Miles Garrett. TJ Watt Keith. TJ Watt.


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[Assistant] T.J.Y. Keap. Oh my god in heaven. That is, I'm keeping T.J.Y. I'm just telling y'all that off. Dribb. Uh, the other two. Oh my god in heaven.


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[Assistant] You know what I'ma keep, I'ma keep TJ wide. Trey Micah and Cut Miles.


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[Assistant] I don't think it's, it's no wrong answer in my personal opinion.


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[Assistant] For the Cleveland Browns sake, I would keep Tyra cut Josh trade coat.


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[Assistant] Well, Michael's going to give me the most in the values of trade, so we're going to trade Michael. We're going to cut Tiger because he's on one leg right now.


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[Assistant] And obviously we gotta, I mean, you know, why would we not keep that? I mean, he saved seasons for Christ sakes, why would we not?


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[Assistant] You about, Jordan about to have, you know, Larsa's about to change her last name to Jordan.


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[Assistant] Larsa Pippen is about to be Larsa Jordan. Ha!


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[Assistant] Well my thing with the evermobily thing is y'all hit on it is that...


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[Assistant] He's really good, but everybody knows that when Jared Allen's not and he has forced to play center, he's not. He doesn't look that well. That's the thing.


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[Assistant] What I do respect between, cause it's between him, Brooke Lopez, and Jaron Jackson Jr. What I respect about Evo Mobley is that he does


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[Assistant] He guards everybody, he guards, he switches on guards, he plays the, he gets blocks, he gets all that, which if you're gonna say a defensive player, you want a guy that can do all the roles, and I think that's the difference that he has over a Brooke Lopez and over a Jaren Jackson Jr. However, that


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[Assistant] Well, on the steel side, I think Jaren Jackson got more average, more steals than him or something like that. Show me that graphic again McNuggets done, that Mobley versus Jackson staff.


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[Assistant] Well, yeaah, because, uh, somebody got hurt. We lost to the heat cause I think Yanis got hurt. We.


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[Assistant] Wait a minute, I have, to be fair, I've said it multiple times, that day Kevin Durant


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[Assistant] You can't, I mean, you can't blame him for that, you know. My mama was, well my mama was from Chicago, but she was a Bulls fan in Cleveland.


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[Assistant] When is the Bucs, not that it matters, but when is the Bucs defensive?


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[Assistant] That maybe, just maybe, we would get a, we would get over on him on this one time, but nah, that man showed up and it made me miss Tristan McKenzie a lot.


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[Assistant] Man, cause we would actually had a better chance if Tristan McKenzie was on the mile, if he's the same as he was last year, but.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. We gotta figure something out. We gotta figure something out because this thing, we can lose. We started off so well. The season was so hot. 3-1 against the Mariners. I mean, pitching was a concern.


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[Assistant] Well, a lot of people would say Jimenez. I mean, he's been playing well. I think for, for my, for my culture, it would be Stephen Kwan.


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[Assistant] Just cause of the name, first of all, but Stephen Kwan has a real chance to be, he reminds me of Etro in every way. I mean, he's a young guy, he's a guy who's very reliable.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I think just with his last name, it's more recognizable. Jimenez is, you know, Jimenez, but, but I think I like Jimenez. I think Jimenez is the better player, but I like Steve McQuann to be one of those guys who is world recognized.


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[Assistant] Kyle, what is this, this change that now Bryce Young is now the heavy favorite to weed the number one pick? Do you agree with that and what has changed that?


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[Assistant] So who would you say, if you had to pick, who would you think going number one?


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[Assistant] Kyle, is Jamir Gibbs good enough to go in the first round? Obviously we know that.


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[Assistant] So Bijon Robinson is one of those guys that's probably going to go first round. We know the running back value has diminished over the past few years, but Jameer Gibbs is one of those guys that, you know, is a good running back, also catches the ball out there, out the backfield, can run routes. Is he good enough to sneak up in that first round?


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[Assistant] Well, I see that you are a huge Miami Dolphins fan. What gave it away?


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[Assistant] Just so happened to check the background out. So with all, with that being said, with two of having the concussions due, is this the year that y'all look in the draft to draft another quarterback like a hand in hooker if he's there day two or what do you think they do with their picks?


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[Assistant] Cause if I, if I started like playing basketball or something, I'd lose 10 pounds, 15 pounds like that. Oh, it's awful.


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[Assistant] I hate it. The heat game was, I turned it on, it was a shocker. I didn't think they'd be down like that, but I guess.


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[Assistant] Jimmy didn't have the type of game that he used to have. Usually a playoff, Jimmy comes in and you know, he's good for a good 30, 40 points. And I seen him missing free throws, which is unusual. He couldn't make no shots. So I knew which way that was going. I thought the Hawks.


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[Assistant] We knew that LeBron was not gonna lose this game. Even though D'Angelo Russell only had two points, like, it's just, they all, Anthony Davis and LeBron came to play. They had some good bench play from Schroeder off the bench. I think he had 21 off the bench.


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[Assistant] Listen, last year we seen Patrick Beverly act like he won the lotto. He took his jersey off, threw it in the stands, was shedding tears. I thought we was gonna get that moment last night.


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[Assistant] It's not like they out, wait, are they out of it or they got the, they got another game, right?


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[Assistant] They did, they did really well. The Hawks did really well defending Bam Adebayo last night. I mean, he couldn't get to the cup to save his life.


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[Assistant] That's because, that's because Nikola Jokic, he gets to the, to playoffs, and for some odd reason, they punk him every year.


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[Assistant] I'll, I'll fire one off. Today, you gonna play it, you gonna do the thing? Yea, we'll play it.


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[Assistant] So I was on my drive up from Columbus today, you know, obviously I drive Columbus to Cleveland on Wednesday and you know, typically I listen to an audio book, but today I let the music ride today, right?


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[Assistant] I got this old school playlist that y'all, y'all moms and aunties and grandparents really respect, okay?


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[Assistant] And as I'm listening to this 80s and 90s R&B, it made me realize that the music today is trash.


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[Assistant] Our R&B music is just trash. It don't talk about nothing no more. Like, back in the day, like, they was actually like,


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[Assistant] That was, once you get older, you realize what too close is actually saying. You're like, man, that's kind of crazy. But anyways.


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[Assistant] Thank you. I was watching the back two thirds of that segment. I was actually in a restaurant eating kind of bad pizza. I'm not going to say where it was because the pizza was bad.


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[Assistant] And I turned the volume up all the way, and it wasn't that crowded in there, I wonder why. Uhm, but, uh, cause I was just, I ran out, my wife was at an appointment, I came out, and I see you, and I saw the video, and I'm like, man, I look so pained in those videos.


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[Assistant] Alright, we got a lot to get to, but I, I gotta do some quick ranting here. First of all, I wanna know, let's see who remembers this line. Or what movie is this from? I said it before, I don't know how, what made me say this. Somebody said this. Somebody said something similar to this.


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[Assistant] Yeah, G is just going nuts, and I said, uh.


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[Assistant] I forgot the exact line now. Oh yeaah, he goes, What movie is that from? It's a great movie, but it feels like an obscure line from this movie. It's a movie that's been out a while.


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[Assistant] I'll tell you who the star of the movie was. There's been a lot of movies. The star is Nicolas Cage.


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[Assistant] No, I just saw it on social media. Now first of all to defend him even though he's a dope.


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[Assistant] Howard specifically asked him, was like, well you've had a woman, a kid with 72 different women.


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[Assistant] No offense, it's just my opinion. You can say I'm untalented, I don't care. Pop music sucks, let's all admit that together. Pop music is generally trash.


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[Assistant] That's it. I saw that. I saw that too. Donnie is tricky. I don't remember what he was, why he was saying, cause somebody did something stupid and then he says that line.


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[Assistant] Let me say one other thing, okay? Like, I don't know what's happening that people don't take pride in their work anymore. I mean, we all have bad days. I'm just going nuclear on everybody. What happened on Thursday? I went to this restaurant for lunch with my wife and my son on Wednesday, right? After we did the show, we went for lunch.


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[Assistant] Tuesday, sorry. Went for lunch. I'm not going to say the name of the place again because, so, there's this place in Rocky River, I'll say it's in Rocky River, that I go for burgers a lot. Their burgers are excellent.


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[Assistant] They have really good burgers. McDonald's, Burger King. No, no, no, I don't eat that crap. I mean...


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[Assistant] You'd think I do. Believe it or not, as fat as I am, I really don't eat a lot of fast food. Stunningly. I really don't. He sits down and does nice food. I like to sit and have a nice meal and go to good places. So I never eat, I mean, I'm not never, but almost never eat McDonald's or Burger King.


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[Assistant] So I'm in this restaurant, and this restaurant, I've been there many times. I go because their burgers are good. But the customer service sucks. The atmosphere sucks. Like, it's a great location.


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[Assistant] It should be a great restaurant. The owner of this restaurant just doesn't give a shit.


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[Assistant] Apparently because he has the most skanky looking people working in his store, his restaurant. You'd think he would care about the people that are presenting your business. And then the food for the first time wasn't that good. And I said to my wife, I'm never coming back here again. And the place is never crowded.


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[Assistant] I think about, folks, if you own a freaking restaurant, do you want your customers to be turned off? I was the only, my wife, my son and I were one of two tables in the place. We waited forever for our food, my burger got overcooked, the person that was the waitress, she was a disaster.


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[Assistant] I love Bet Rivers. It's a great sports book. It's really easy to use. It's user friendly. So go check it out. I make my best bets off the Bet Rivers sports book every day. I am on fire with baseball. What am I on baseball now? Six and four? Six and four.


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[Assistant] Book it. Pirates plus one and a half against the Cardinals. Now, I'm, this was a risky play because I don't like the Pirates pitcher.


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[Assistant] Uh, Vince Velasquez. He sucks, I don't know why he's in the majors. But the Cardinals don't have a good pitcher, and the Cardinals are a mess right now.


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[Assistant] They're completely scuffling. The Pirates are a young, interesting team that's gonna be good in like two years. Right now they're hot with the Bats. In another two weeks they're gonna get ice cold and lose 14 out of 18. But right now they're hot. They're not ready to cool off yet. And I'll take the run in a half.


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[Assistant] The raise seems like a crazy bet, because in theory, right there, what? 12-0 now? 11-0, 12-0. 11-0? I think it's 12-0.


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[Assistant] And you're like, well, they can't keep winning, right? But well, why not? Maybe they'll go 162-0.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jeffrey Springs is pitching for the Rays. He's been absolutely, I had him on my fantasy team last year. He was great. This is one of the more, since the beginning of last year, he's been one of the best pitchers in baseball and nobody knows him. Like, unless you're a fantasy baseball guy or one of the 82 Rays fans, nobody knows who this guy is. He's been absolutely lights out.


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[Assistant] I'll lay the run in a half. The Red Sox, by the way, are only a game under 500 in last place in the East, but they're already seven games out of first.


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[Assistant] I can't remember. Yeah, I can't remember. No, uh, it's not a Volby and I, I can't remember. Uh, so those are the best bets. By the way,


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[Assistant] Uh, in addition to being on this show today, of course, I'm going to be doing a live stream courtesy of Bet Rivers tonight. It's going to be like old school radio. You can listen, tweet me your questions. I will answer your questions live on the air. We'll talk NBA playoffs.


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[Assistant] And MLB season, one hour live stream. I tweeted the link earlier from five to six tonight. Anthony, what's up?


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[Assistant] I hate, Jimmy should, the only thing I'll give Jimmy credit for is he paid a lot for the renovations. He paid more than most owners do. He should pay for it all. I know it's not gonna happen so I'm not gonna waste my time. The fans shouldn't pay for any of it.


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[Assistant] It's just unfair, but if they wanted to sell it, that it could be money.


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[Assistant] Being an owner of football is basically printing money. Yes. Okay? The Haslums argue, probably not arguably, they're in the conversation for the worst sports owner of the last decade. Is that fair?


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[Assistant] Yeah. Of any team in any sport. Yeah, sure, look at the record. Their bottom five, this character right here, who somehow is rich, you know, he started on third, think he hit a triple because his daddy was rich, now he made more money.


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[Assistant] Is that really what it is? They paid what, 1 billion for the Brown? So in 10 years, they've done nothing with this franchise. That's in a little better shape right now. We'll see where it goes. If Deshaun Watson's a good quarterback again, then it'll eventually be good. If not, they're going to be shit for another 5 years.


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[Assistant] They've done nothing with this organization. He's been a terrible ownership. One stupid hire after the next. One mistake after the next. Shady dealings. Guys behind the scenes getting in trouble. All kinds of nonsense. He can't pay for the freaking stadium.


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[Assistant] Mr. Dewitt, he's got the money. Let's go. It's great for the city. It'll be awesome.


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[Assistant] Okay, listen, uh, obviously this guy's got issues, you know, if this is all ha- if this is all true as we've heard it.


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[Assistant] He's a really bad guy. Uh, I decided a couple years ago that I'd change my tune on this. I can separate the player from the person.


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[Assistant] Uh, as I decided to do with Deshaun Watson and other people on other teams. I've said it once a million times. There's crappy guys on every team. There's crappy guys in every walk of life and every business. Uh, but you're right. Is the juice worth the squeeze? Probably not with him. I would honestly, if I'm the Browns, I'm calling him. I'm saying, do you want to play?


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[Assistant] If the answer is yes, I have now zero tolerance, I give him a chance to be excellent. If he's great off-season, on the field, if he's great in training camp, what the hell, I'll keep him a little longer. But, uh, if there's any doubt at all, then I'm cutting his ass at the end of training camp.


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[Assistant] You're done. And you have to go 100% every practice. I want you to be the best player on the field every moment you're there. The second that doesn't happen, your ass is out of town. And maybe he doesn't care.


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[Assistant] No. He's a backup on this team. Right. Period. Unless he comes off-season and training camp and just kills it and looks like the best player we've ever seen, I'm cutting his ass. But I'll give him that chance. Uh, alright, that's it. Anything else on Perry on Winfrey?


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[Assistant] Alright, well we'll see what the crowd's like in the USFL. I don't know, but we're looking forward to them being a part of the show. And we have a guest from the USFL tomorrow.


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[Assistant] Still working that out. Alright, let's talk about this. I, I'll be honest, I think this topic's a little soft.


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[Assistant] Is there any other argument? Who else can you make an argument for? Chris Godwin maybe? Devonte Smith? Philadelphia?


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[Assistant] No. By the way, Cam in Canada was apoplectic. Did you guys also pick Justin Herbert over Deshaun Watson yesterday? Yes.


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[Assistant] Is there, honestly, Jason, you know the league better than anybody. Is there a single team in the NFL that you think would take, including the Browns,


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[Assistant] Would take Deshaun Watson over Justin Herbert. No. I think it'd all take Herbert. Everyone of them. Now, obviously the off the field is a big part of that. Yes. And that's gotta be factored in in the game we were playing yesterday.


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[Assistant] And if this was two years ago with Sean Watson coming off another great season.


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[Assistant] And Herbert is zero. And his team choked like a dog.