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[Assistant] If you're playing Jamar chasing and all he's doing is catching passes in front of you, you live with that. You can live with that. What you can't live with is him catching that five yard pass and going 80. That's where you got problems. So, but, but, but here's, and, and defensively, I almost liked everything they were doing. They, they moved, uh,


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[Assistant] How they did it by, if, if, if at the end of the day, you say, I'ma give.


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[Assistant] Jamar chase 10 catches for 119 yards. You can live with that. Right? But what you can't live with...


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[Assistant] Is on fourth down, get a chance, get good field position and you give them the ball back. Okay. You're playing with fire and that's what happened most of the time. The, the free first downs, all of the penalties, the penalties that back you up offensively. And so when you look at the way the game played out, the schematics of it was fine. It was the generosity of your team.


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[Assistant] To give them free yards that hurt you. And it's been a problem all year. And I don't know what you do about that. Uhm.


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[Assistant] I mean, I was thinking, I told somebody today, I said, you know what, in all my years of playing football, all of them, I never had a holding penalty, never had a pass interference penalty, had one unsportsmanlike conduct.


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[Assistant] So, so we were playing Notre Dame at Michigan.


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[Assistant] And, uh, quarterback threw a pick. And I want to say it's, uh, Mike Zortich.


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[Assistant] He started, he caught it, it was batted up in there, he caught it, he started running, and I came all the way from the other side of the field, and he was celebrating, and woohoo, and he got to the, to the, almost to the white, and I committed. And then he kind of jumped.


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[Assistant] And then he kinda jumped, he jumped out of bounds, and I'm like, oh no, uh-uh, I'll take this. And I just got him. Sorry.


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[Assistant] Wow. So, I've gotten into a couple of, I've gotten into a couple of situations. With that, the guy hit me, uhm, I was thinking of a preseason game.


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[Assistant] He hit me, I was like five yards out of bounds. Oh, it's go time. You ain't gonna, you ain't gonna, you ain't gonna hurt me like that.


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[Assistant] Who was the player? Huh? You remember who the other player was? I don't even remember. I know it was a linebacker. And then after the game, because at the time Metcalfe was playing with the Rams.


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[Assistant] And after the game, Metcalf came to me and said, man, my boy say sorry. And I said, well, you tell him, come tell me yourself. We can talk about it. So we dapped up and we was good.


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[Assistant] Like I don't never hold, like, I don't never hold...


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[Assistant] You know, stuff that happens in a football game against a person. Right?


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[Assistant] Cause it's football. It's physical. You get mad. You got coaches yelling at you. You got stuff. Sometimes you just get frustrated. So I understand that. So I ain't going, you know.


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[Assistant] Good football and play hard and, and, and, and, and do those things is that I never wanted to go in the huddle and have people look at me and go, you're the reason why. So peer pressure really.


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[Assistant] And, and, and so from that standpoint, and I, and I'll tell you this, one of the reasons why I started playing was because of the guys in the huddle, not the coaches.


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[Assistant] He is now the CEO. Right. So that means that in some way, shape or form, his imprint should be on the whole team.


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[Assistant] With how you do things, how you prepare for games, how you go about even your, your pregame warmups and stuff like that. That is your staple on this franchise.


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[Assistant] That are talking about the Browns and they're talking about a bunch of circumstances surrounding the Browns that


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[Assistant] Hit a switch, listen to the offensive calls. And periodically, I would hear him say, let's take a shot with Randy.


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[Assistant] Periodically I would say, he would say, let's establish the run. Periodically I would hear him say, hey, we ain't covering them, let's get some more pressure.


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[Assistant] No! Because I don't think, I don't think Kevin Stefanski has enough of a grip on what's going on with the defense.


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[Assistant] You have a lot of players on this team that have been in survival mode.


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[Assistant] Right. And that is survive the coach, survive the ownership, survive the circumstances in which you play the game. I think if they get into a situation and we've seen it where they've having success.


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[Assistant] And everybody gets comfortable and then they start doing it at a level that warrants excellence. You know, you could see it. We go back a couple of years. We weren't having these conversations about the defense. Wasn't having these conversations about, oh, we're getting gashed by the defense.


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[Assistant] Greg Williams, if you ask anybody, if you ask anybody that has played for Greg Williams


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[Assistant] The one staple of what he does and how he does it is the mindset in which the guys go about doing their job.


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[Assistant] Right? There's a lot of coaches like that. It's like...


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[Assistant] You can get away with not being good enough.


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[Assistant] If you know what to do and how to do it. And if you don't do it that way, now we gotta rely on your ability to be more talented.


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[Assistant] And so, uhm, I do believe that what has happened defensively is not necessarily schematic, but how do you go about doing it? How do you go about, because guess what? I hate to say this, stopping the runners about attitude.


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[Assistant] Running the football is about attitude. You gon' be confronted.


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[Assistant] If you run into football by somebody and that's why we all love Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] And that's why we get mad when Kevin Stefanski doesn't commit to the run for this reason. Yeah, they got too many guys to block. So what? You got Nick Chubb. You got Kareem Hunt.


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[Assistant] Well, that's going to change. Listen, we've had times where Bill Belichick was so sick of seeing three and outs. He would walk over to the offense and say, buckle your chin strap. We run in the ball.


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[Assistant] It all starts and ends with running the football. I don't care if you end up throwing it 40 times. I don't care if you throw it 60 times. But guess what? It's gonna start with the run.


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[Assistant] You can't do that to your offensive line. The easiest thing for offensive line to do is be aggressive and block going downhill. You have to do that. If you don't


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[Assistant] If you get too cute, if you try to throw the ball too much, you're going to have the same result you had last week. As simple as that. And guess what? This is who they are.


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[Assistant] It's not great running back. Yeah.


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[Assistant] It's a great team that runs the football. Yea but they don't.


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[Assistant] How about this? When you get to December, in January, and when you look at all them Super Bowls Tom Brady won, every year we've said these words.


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[Assistant] Tom Brady got the MVP, but it probably should have went to the running back.


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[Assistant] You have to understand what running the football means.


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[Assistant] They didn't run at all in the playoff. They couldn't run the ball. You ever notice, you ever notice it, we tend to overlook great defense, right? They won the Super Bowl because of their defense. They won the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] You confuse having a good game with a great quarterback, because before, uhm, who's a quarterback for the Rams? Stafford.


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[Assistant] Staff- before Stafford went to the Rams, he was considered a looter in the riot.


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[Assistant] I think everybody's missing my point. Everybody's missing my point. This team, if they're gonna be successful, they're gonna have success throwing the football, but they're never gonna be considered


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[Assistant] A passing team. They're always gonna start and finish with Nick Chubb. That's the basis of this offense. So when it gets tough.


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[Assistant] When it gets to the end of games, when it gets to those pivotal situations, you know what the Browns need to do? Run the football!


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[Assistant] I'm not saying they're not gonna be better because they have Deshaun Watson. I'm not saying that. But every team has a bread and butter. Your bread and butter can't be passing the football. There's too many things that can go wrong.


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[Assistant] And if you rely on your passing game and your passing game only, eventually it's going to bite you in the ass. You got to have something with four minutes left inside the 10 that you have to go to. And that's why Nick Chubb is the most important.


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[Assistant] You know why? You know why the run and shoot struggled? Bill Belichick would always say this. You know they didn't have a tight end on the roster?


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[Assistant] You're talking about warm moon and, and, and, and guess what? And Lorenzo White would run for a million yards because they were so worried about that pass. Then December would come around.


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[Assistant] So, so I get what you're saying, but I understand 100% what you're saying. But for this team.


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[Assistant] Three or four years of Nick Chubb being the reason why the Browns have been successful or not.


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[Assistant] And I've also seen the Sean Watson throw for 5,000 yards and they don't even make the play.


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[Assistant] Is that, you know what, sometimes it's the other guys on your team also.


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[Assistant] You don't have Randy Moss. You don't have Jamar Chase. You don't have guys blowing the top off of the defense. That could catch. Let me say that.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so you gotta do things accordingly. You gotta create space for.


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[Assistant] How do you create space? You create space by getting eyes of the defense in the wrong place. So if they run into football, if you play action, if you do that, if you run the football, you can do play action. If you just drop back and pass it, now you're saying to your receivers go get open. Are they those type of receivers?


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[Assistant] I started working on this because I believed one day songs would be produced by computers.


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[Assistant] If it weren't for the internet, I don't think that Vocaloid would have become as big as it is.


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[Assistant] Facebook and app stores have opened up new opportunities for companies like us and spawned hundreds of developers.


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[Assistant] It's, I was thinking this earlier today that it's, it's a tool and it's just like any other tool. You can use it in the correct way and it can be very helpful and useful to yourself or you can use it in the wrong way and it could hurt yourself, you could hurt others and it could become a negative thing. It's just another tool that exists in this world. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I think the network stayed in a specific formula because they were so heavily invested in that formula, you know, and then as the times changed and content was so fast and so much, so much access to content that yeah, that they were forced to, and these other platforms had to keep their subscribers. So,


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[Assistant] It was, it was forced to come up with something new, exciting, and keeping people glued to their TV screens.


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[Assistant] Spotify, I have Spotify. Uhm, I do have Netflix, but it's more for my girlfriend than myself. Uhm, I'm honestly, I don't watch TV at all. Uhm, the, the times that I do watch television is usually at night and I'm a YouTuber. Oh really? So I go on YouTube and I, uh,


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[Assistant] Immersed in so many different processes in this, in this world of creativity. From my artistic expressions, from design, photography, video editing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, all these things that I'm doing, there's so much information that you can never know at all about all these things. So I'm constantly searching for new techniques or methods in order to, uhm, uhm,


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[Assistant] To, but it wasn't because I had a lack of interest in knowledge. I've always been thirsty for knowledge, but my educational system didn't grant me with the opportunities that I felt I needed or they weren't.


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[Assistant] Well I think something that education teaches you is routine. It teaches you to like, be able to commit to something, follow through with it, and do it. But if you're gonna do something within creativity,


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[Assistant] No amount of education can teach you creativity. You either have that or you don't have that I think and if you're an artist or a musician or you can like better your craft the more time you spend at it.


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[Assistant] Graphic designer, any of these types of things, uhm, you know, it, it, it, school's not going to teach you that. And, and, uh, you, you have to study and learn, but yeaah, it's, uhm, uh, those, those platforms are amazing. I mean, we have, that's the extension of the, the human consciousness of, of our evolution.


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[Assistant] Part of our evolution comes through this digital platform now. We're able to like


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[Assistant] Any question that we have, we have the direct answer right now. And that's a jump in evolution if you ask me, you know, it's very, very interesting, you know, like and think about back in the day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no shit, like, you know, but, but do we, do we have to, do we expect people to know that? Because maybe, like, do we expect, oh, you follow me, so you should know all this information about me. Or, like, is it still polite to share?


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[Assistant] What it is you're up to with people, you know, it's kind of a weird, like, you're like, am I just repeating myself by saying this stuff or is, do they really actually want to hear what I, what I'm talking about right now?


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[Assistant] Uh, but we're so addicted. We're so addicted, you know, like, I mean, every time I pull up to red light, I can't help but grab my phone, look at it, see what's going on, whether it's just my messages, my emails, Instagram, you know, whatever things that you're trying to keep up with. Um, we are all to some extent addicted to that device and, and, uh,


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[Assistant] And I was saying this also about social media yesterday and even today I think I said it is that it is.


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[Assistant] The best worst thing in the world. It's both, you know, and it just depends on how you utilize it. Uhm, because I mean, all the people like for, for any person that does anything to be able to connect instantly with your fan base and promote what you're doing, share these ideas with people. I mean, that's the coolest thing in the world.


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[Assistant] But this mass amount of energy and content and, and stimulation, it's like,


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[Assistant] Even with the YouTube of learning all that stuff, we now have a lack of retaining that information because we're so immersed in all this information. So we stop.


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[Assistant] And even then, even the best of the best videos that come out, years of hype, all this different stuff, people watch it and, and literally it's the next day they're onto something else. They might talk about it here and there still, but it's the, the recycle time is so fast now and, uh,


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[Assistant] Everything, you know, it's such a, a cycle of, of, of new, new, new constantly that uhm, it comes tricky. It's like, you know, for skaters especially, they're,


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[Assistant] Jamie Foy, uhm, I mean, there's still, there's still a bunch there, but I still like, feel like it's not quite like you were saying, like back in the day when it was like, you know, for BMX, for instance, for me, I don't know a whole, whole lot about BMX, but like, you know, Matt Hoffman was just the God, you know, for, for, for me growing up and seeing it as a skateboarder looking into it, you know, and it's like, and it was just like,


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[Assistant] Matt Hoffman, it was like, you know, such a, so much hype around him and amongst a lot of other guys within the industry. Uhm, uh, you know, that it seems similar now. It's just like a quick cycle and with music, especially it seems like, you know, where.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, there was music that defined an era.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and that was for, you know, there were skateboarders that were famous within skateboarding, but I think that was one of the first times that skateboarding had been brought to the masses, you know, and brought these names into households for tons of people that didn't skateboard were now


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[Assistant] Exposed to these names on a daily basis and then they were playing it on the video game and they got that feeling of skateboarding based on the video game. But that, that game for myself and for many of the other people within the game was life changing. It was huge. You know, we went from.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was basically like an avatar that represented you before avatars kind of existed in a way, you know, it was like, uh, um, definitely it's, uh, it was like, yeah, it was like, it was like being a cartoon television show of yourself that they could kind of.


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[Assistant] The, uh, the turn in popularity of skateboarding and it always had its waves of popularity in the 80s was big, uhm, kinda died out early 90s and, and, uh, then from after that in the early 2000s when that came out, I can't remember the first year, but that's like right around when my career in skateboarding was really,


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[Assistant] That didn't deter me from putting every single thing I had in myself into that thing because I loved it. That was it. The feeling of landing these tricks was the most important thing in the world to me. There was no, I'm gonna do this and


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[Assistant] That was like, if I was like, my biggest goal in the world was like I might get a free skateboard from this company, you know, and that was the goal.


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[Assistant] I think anything that you do for money becomes complicated at some point, you know? Uhm, there becomes a level of expectation. Uhm, when you work with companies, they want you to outdo yourself, they want you to constantly be on because then you're a major part of that


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[Assistant] Paris and London and, uh, you know, Berlin, I mean, Canada, I mean, we were just going, you know, it was nonstop, but I loved it. I, I absolutely.


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[Assistant] Hip-hop, graffiti, breakdancing, uh, DJing, producing, these are elements of my life that I've all grown up on and to allow skateboarding to take me around the world and connect with all these different people and meet idols of mine that I had looked up to and uhm, it was ju- it's still


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[Assistant] I'm waiting to wake up. I'm still waiting for it to be like, this actually really happened. It's a dream. You know what I mean? Like I, I can't believe it. That it all took place. And as a kid, I would have never thought that this would happen.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, I, I came from nothing, you know, straight up a hundred percent. And I came from, came up skating on the streets and that's what I did my whole life. And I ran away from home and left everything and came here with nothing to make this happen. And, and.


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[Assistant] As I, my career grew, I still stayed on the streets every day. That's what I did. I, I'll leave my house by myself and to this day, I still do it and just go skate and run into people and random, some random skaters have a nice session. And that was my childhood. And that's something that I try to carry with me and continue to do.


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[Assistant] And, and I remember as a kid, when I met a few pros that kind of shunned me at the skateparks or like weren't cool to me, like that, like,


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[Assistant] Wanted that, that it's my experience to be like that with anybody. So whenever I'm like was at a place or at a demo or autograph signings, whatever, like no matter what mood I was in at that time, I always tried to come out with a positive vibe and be appreciative for.


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[Assistant] Not really, cause I was just being me, like I would never try to like think about what I was doing, I would just react, I would just be, you know what I mean? And to this day, like I would not try to put too much thought into


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[Assistant] I would just want to be myself and just treat any other kids, because they're just like the group of kids I grew up with any place you went. These group of homies getting together at a skate shop and going in a parking lot and skateboarding, so it was no different and I always wanted to


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[Assistant] Experience like those places through their eyes, like as like I would, if somebody new skater came into our group, we'd be like, yeah, come on, kick it. Like we're going to go to this party or, you know, hang out this spot or skate or, you know, go see a concert and, and really like give that person the experience of our community. And so whenever I traveled.


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[Assistant] Superstar skater that came in and signed an autograph and went back to his hotel room and hid out. Like I wanted to like interact with that community and meet them and, and, uh, um,


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[Assistant] Have fun and, and see and live because that was, I mean, ultimately we're all here to live and experience and, and that was an opportunity that I thought I would have never had in my life growing up. So like every place I went to, I was so hyped every place I got to meet new, new friends and you know, and, and just, uh,


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[Assistant] To this day, here kids go like, oh, 20 years ago, you know, you came to this, you know, place and in the Midwest or wherever. And, you know, and we'll never forget that day and me and my homies talk about it. And it's like, wow, like, you know, because it wasn't my intention. It was just, like I said, I was just going there, doing what I love to do and sharing it with the people.


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[Assistant] And so to know that that had a positive impact on, on kids that now became adults and can share that.


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[Assistant] Experience with their kids, it's just a great thing, you know, and, and, but yeah, back to the question.


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[Assistant] That kills your body and so there's a lot of expectation of the company to make these appearances and skate in these demos hard and while you still have to produce your video content or get an advertisement done, I mean it's a, it's the


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[Assistant] A lot of people don't know the amount of work that it took to become this, and not only to get there,


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[Assistant] That once you get there, that's where the work begins. You know, you work your whole life to get to this point and then you're like, oh, you're pro now, you made it. Hell no. That's like, that's the ultimate beginning of the work. And that's when you're like clawing at the, at the, you know, your spot and trying to maintain and, and


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[Assistant] Relevant and uhm, be able to progress with skateboarding as it has progressed immensely. Like, I mean, it's insane the tricks these kids are doing nowadays.


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[Assistant] Uhm, one of my favorite quotes is from Oscar Wilde and it's everything in moderation, including moderation. So that's the loophole of, you know, being able to go and wild out and have a great time. But as long as you're able to come back and focus and


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[Assistant] And at one point I realized that I got too heavy in the other side of it, you know, and that's when I had to go, okay, if I want to last and I want to be around for a long time.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I gotta check myself and I gotta, I gotta make sure that I'm in control of my situation and nothing else is controlling me and I'm not a slave to any substance or, uhm, uh, experience or which happens and so,


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[Assistant] You know, coming from nothing and making some money, I instantly felt there was this, uh,


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[Assistant] Image I had to live up to and, and, and as I tried to live up to that image.


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[Assistant] I did have everything and that's what I had to stop myself and realize because it's not, everything is not accountable in an exact...


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[Assistant] And I'm not downing on it at all just for myself. Like you said, I mean, it's like, I lived 10,000 lifetimes within the club already. I've done every single thing you could imagine in that.


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[Assistant] In that lifestyle and I had a blast and I wouldn't change it all, but now to go back to that feels like I'm going in reverse now. Like I'm more interested like what you said in, in I'm a very deep thinker. I have a lot of ideas and I want to manifest these, these visions into reality.


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[Assistant] And going to a club and getting drunk is not going to get me one step closer to that. No matter if I'm sitting next to...


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[Assistant] The coolest person that's doing the best things in the world, even if you're in that environment surrounded by them, does that really get you closer to what your goal is in accomplishing it, you know? And for me, it was taking me backwards. It wasn't getting me uhm, more ahead in life. And so that's when I just had to realize, okay,


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[Assistant] You know, I, it's, I'm sober, I'm completely sober nowadays. I don't, I don't drink, I don't smoke weed, I don't do anything. Uhm, and I still have trouble getting it all done, you know, and I'm like, how did I used to do anything?


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[Assistant] So I'm an all or nothing person and, and I was very conscious of my actions. I knew, I chose to like, I was going out to get fucking wasted, to black out, like to get smashed and like,


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[Assistant] I drank, I partied hard, in all aspects of it. But the thing with me was, somehow,


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[Assistant] I've always had the ability to shut it off whenever I wanted to. Like, so whenever I quit drinking, and I've had a few, uh, cycles of partying and then getting sober, partying, getting sober before now for about five years, not drinking.


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[Assistant] Drinking's the root of it all. Yea, for me, that's the worst thing. I think smoking weed is great, if you're able to not go in as deep as I do, because when I'm a stoner, I'm like a beyond stoner, too. Like I, you know, smoke an ounce every couple days, or like, you know, and I'm just like...


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[Assistant] Work within artistic expression and, and things that allow me to stay at home and be alone and create those things. I was, when I'm, when I'm a stoner, I dive too deep into those things and I don't.


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[Assistant] Uh, share them with the world, which is an important aspect of doing it. But I would never, I drank like an alcoholic, but I don't think I ever was an alcoholic because I never physically craved it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but when I drank, I drank a bottle of whiskey, ten bottles of whiskey, whatever it was. But every time I'd become sober, it's usually I made an ass of myself, did something ridiculous, and then woke up the next day and was like, alright, I gotta chill. And then after eventually a few of those things, I was like, alright, there's really not much left I have.


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[Assistant] This doesn't, this isn't, I'm not getting anything positive out of this lifestyle anymore. And that's when I just said, I cut it. I'm not an AA dude. I'm not a rehab dude. I don't think any of those things are bad. If it works for people, that's great for them. For myself, I just quit drinking and then quit smoking and


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[Assistant] I just, and I could say for myself, it's the best thing that ever happened in my life. And the world is much more clear, my thoughts, my interactions with people, uhm, my, everything about life is, became a, a different experience for me that I hadn't experienced for,


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[Assistant] And maybe if it's a better positive thing that they could relate to it in some way. But uhm, uhm, but yeaah, I...


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[Assistant] The most amazing people in this world are the most talented and they have so much to give and so much to create and express and put out in this world. They're usually the ones that are, uhm,


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[Assistant] But they also are struggling with something internally that allows them to go to express themselves in that such of a great manner. And so they're the most dangerous ones and they're the people that we celebrate after they die and we love them and we...


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[Assistant] Uhm, and they are the most at risk as far as like parting and heading down to that dark tunnel, you know, and it's because they have


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[Assistant] so much inside of them and they share so much that there's also these, these super, they're always high like up in this, yeah, like they're so positive and they're the raddest people but I guarantee that they have this like flip side that's like very down and very dark and that


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[Assistant] Rollercoaster of pendulum of life of darkness and lightness coming in and out of my life.


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[Assistant] Uh, personalities within skateboarding that make your, your,


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[Assistant] Is, are equally as important as your ability on the skateboard. It's like, skateboarding is, is like a form of dance. It's, it's, it's a personal, uhm, uh, performance art that everybody does a kickflip.


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[Assistant] Uh, the way you speak, the way you move, all those things are very important in skateboarding, at least to myself. In this day and age, I see a lot of that dying out and I see a lot of the, as we get more into this corporate involvement and televised things, they need that


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[Assistant] All those sports take skill and effort and community and interaction, but the most beautiful thing about skateboarding, but for me always was, is that there's nobody else that matters but you, your skateboard, this obstacle in front of you, and time ceases to exist when you're against this mental, physical challenge that you have.


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[Assistant] And uhm, that expression is so important within that process. And to be a professional skateboarder, there's a bazillion great skateboarders out there.


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[Assistant] But I think that you have to have something that people relate to, that they want to emulate your style, they want to like, be like that person.


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[Assistant] Even if it's a troubled person, maybe they don't want to be like them necessarily, but they relate to that because we're all troubled. Nobody's perfect in this world, you know? Nobody just shows up in their perfect polo shirt and does their skateboard tricks and goes back to their fancy car to their nice house. That's not reality, you know what I mean? And that's the way skateboarding is being presented a bit nowadays.


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[Assistant] When you're able to share that and show that and, and show that you've overcome certain scenarios of that crazy aspect of life and you're able to produce and still do these things, that's important to me. And that's what skateboarding has always been to me. And, and, uh, the music of the youth culture that comes out is an expression of that struggle and, and trying to


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[Assistant] Into words or into sound, the emotions that we feel and go through, uhm, uh, that's, you know, I don't even know where I'm going with this, but.


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[Assistant] Both positive and negative to some extent, you know, is where like I was partying, going through all this stuff and sharing it with kids who, a lot of kids were partying as well too, and kids are gonna party regardless, you know, it's part of it.


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[Assistant] Looking back sometimes I'm like, damn, like, did I like make these kids smoke weed and drink and, and aspire to this like lifestyle that, that I was


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[Assistant] You realize that a lot of things that were so important to you during your youth aren't as, as important now. And so I, I, I realize now that as though I'm not nearly as popular as I once was in skateboarding or uhm, you know, in, in this world, I guess in general, I still have a following and, and people that


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[Assistant] See what I do and so I'm, I'm very aware of that and I try to like...


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[Assistant] Share my experience that I'm going through in life in, in a positive way. And that also has down times and bad times as I still go through and exist and experience and exist within. And I try to like.


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[Assistant] Share those things that I'm going through and to not only as a reminder to myself to uplift myself and go, okay, I'm still here. I'm still going and going to keep going. But also if other people can relate to that too and help uplift them in a positive way. So.


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[Assistant] I've tried to be more conscious and aware of whatever impact I'm able to make from here on out. But years ago, I had no idea. I was just like chasing this dream of being a pro skater and, and making money and obtaining these material possessions that I thought were


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[Assistant] They were the image of success. I needed to have this car and this house and these jewelry and this, this clothes and you know, all these things that were like so important that


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[Assistant] In the end of the day, they're not that important. I mean, it's great to have a nice new thing, put on some new shoes, you know, feel good about yourself. You know, I'm not saying like you gotta be like a dirt ball your whole life or something like that.


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[Assistant] But it's what I was saying earlier, kind of like if you're continuously chasing, you're gonna, you'll never be satisfied and, and you have to reach a point where you're like, okay, like it doesn't matter if I have the newest everything, like I got what I got and I'm happy with that and you know, and able to live and eat and the basic essentials are the most important thing.


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[Assistant] Uhm, where I think a lot of this world is like...


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[Assistant] Chasing, uhm, an unobtainable, uhm, uh, idea of what life is and what success is. And they're leaving the truly most important things behind, which are family, friends, uhm, love, all these things that are the truth of importance of this world.


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[Assistant] And realistically, it's not profitable for me to, to spread this message because I'm still deep within apparel, within, uh, well footwear mainly, um, and skateboards and all these things that I still are part of my business. And I think that, like I said though, it's, it's a balance, you know, I'm not saying you don't do any of it, but you just like, you can't just keep like,


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[Assistant] And like all these people that ever know names came through, like, you know, showed up out of nowhere and like showed up at this spot. They met a pro. They ended up getting hooked up. Uhm, you know, you've launched new brands out of that place. Uhm, I mean, Brooklyn projects has just been.


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[Assistant] You know, but just your history of, of what you've done here and, and continue to do is, is, is insane and I don't know how you do it because it's almost like running a halfway house. Like you literally are like there and all these people are coming through and


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[Assistant] You know, it's such an eclectic mix of people and personalities and, and you know, they come and skate the ramp and they're hanging out at the place all day long. And, and it's, it's, I just commend you for everything that you've done for not only myself, but for so many skaters out there. And you know what?


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[Assistant] Uh, I've always been down with BMXers, like throughout, because I started


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[Assistant] Bmxing first before skateboarding and was on to, you know, dirt jumping and building bikes and trading parts like that was my shit, you know, and, and my bike ended up getting stolen.


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[Assistant] Okay, okay, so he was riding with us back in the day. Uhm, and, and, and so we were already homies and, and had that connection with, with, with cats like that. And then, uh, like Robbie from like Fitlife back, you know, Robbie, you know,


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[Assistant] I think like I said, I'm an all or nothing person. So that question is, the answer to that question is different each day, you know? And so I, I, when I dive into something, I'm like all into it. And I think that the fact that I do all these different things keeps the interest in all of them because I don't get burned out on one particular thing. So like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, when I was like, like a couple weeks ago, I got like for like the last three months or so I was in skate, I started skating and I got over a bad back injury. Uhm, and I sort of just overcame it and was able to skate again, which was taken away from me for a while. And I was just like every day I wanted to film some tricks, do this stuff.


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[Assistant] And then I had to do an art show. And so I prepared for that art show and did that. And since that art show, now I'm like...


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[Assistant] Now I'm shaping stone and I'm like diamond grinding and polishing all these rocks and stones and making sculpture and so I'm very obsessed with that at the moment and doing that. But it's always changing but I think like it's both my blessing and my curse that I work in all these different mediums.


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[Assistant] It is hard to balance them out and make any one of them, uhm, the best you can make it at times, but I think I find a bit of a balance and it's, it's, I think that's my, my main thing in life is searching for that fine balance between all those things.


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[Assistant] Keeping the companies happy that I work with, uhm, working with these shoe ventures, uh, been working with Supra for over 10 years and designing footwear with them. Started up a new project called Stray, uh, with my friend Angel and Jamie Thomas and we have that project going on and so my,


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[Assistant] Uhm, ride my skateboard, create this artwork, do photography, edit videos, uhm, you know, or my mind and my own actions. And with designing it's great because you still utilize your mind and you create these objects and computer or...


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[Assistant] On paper and, uh, always mixed mediums of, of forms to get this, but.


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[Assistant] I've lost a bit of attraction to a mass manufacture product right now. Uhm, so I try to struggle to go this, but that's still my bread and butter. That's how I'm able to exist and live and eat and have a house.


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[Assistant] Is, cause artistic expression doesn't always mean money, whether it's music or art or, uh, photography, whatever it is, like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so I think for any creative, you have to be realistic about, uhm, your, your actions and what you're going to get out of them. And you always have to have something that is a dependable income in order to fund your creativity.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, it's totally different. And at once I felt like that with footwear and skateboards and graphics and all that. Like it was, uh,


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[Assistant] That's kind of a crazy concept. So I've been working in footwear for over 20 years now and designed my first shoe with ES footwear in like, you know, 96 or so I think it was. And you know, and, and that was a pretty instant success and, and, and that,


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[Assistant] That being a proper representation of me and the style or...


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[Assistant] voice that I want to stand for. And so, uhm, but yeah, so I've been making footwear for, for over 20 years now and, and, uh, and it's been a crazy run of starting companies experiencing this big,


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[Assistant] The lifestyle world and, you know, this is over 10 years ago now.


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[Assistant] Uh, but it's, it's very pretty simplistic looking now, you know, but at that time for skateboarding, it had really, um, went very safe at that time. It was, it was very just clean.


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[Assistant] Vans kind of vulcanized, uhm, uh, there wasn't a lot to it. Every company pretty much had the same three shoes and you just picked what logo you wanted to have and the high tops weren't really hitting. But that's around the time when, you know, a lot of sneaker collectors were growing and the dunks were, were,


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[Assistant] I mean Muscat, DJing, breakdancing, graffiti, all these elements that were part of my youth growing up.


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[Assistant] I started a record label back in, in, uh, you know, around, around 2004 or something like that.


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[Assistant] Uh, USB bus powered sound device, uhm, mic preamp, and uh, sound card.


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[Assistant] thing that I thought would help elevate skateboarding because I thought, hey, if all these guys are going to


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[Assistant] We're my great friends who we had worked together on projects for interviewing for their magazines and, and they were very connected within the hip hop world and kind of were mashing those worlds together at the time too.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and you know, and it was just like this weird series of events and, and I was surprised that a lot of these guys were familiar with skateboarding and as much as I was like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, uh, so it was just, you know, it was just a great experience, uhm, uh, to see that those worlds were connected in some ways.


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[Assistant] Who is this crazy dude, like white skater dude producing music and you know, bringing this culture within our community. And uhm, and now fast forward to right now, it's very, it's just.


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[Assistant] It's there, it's, it's, uh, you know, and, and skateboarding is so big, there's like kind of different genres of skateboarding even in, in community that, that, you know, there's, there's all these different little subcultures within it now and you have these like crazy,


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's huge. It's like music. There's all these different genres of it. But, but yeah, man, I'm just like to see that these kids can skate and rip and then they're off like getting like, you know, millions of followers on Instagram and getting this like notoriety within music and able to skateboard. That's like so great because


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[Assistant] I think it's amazing because it's so like, as I age and realize what they do for skateboarding is enormous and to open up that


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[Assistant] People that are, you know, are just, they have this massive falling within music and they're just great skateboarders and are just, even if they're not great, they love skateboarding. And uhm, and, and that,


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[Assistant] The best thing about skateboarding is that you don't have to be great. You don't have to be the best. There's nothing, there's no rules to skateboarding and that's where a lot of kids I think get it twisted. They're like, I want to kickflip or I want to be sponsored or I want, you know, all these things when it's like,


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[Assistant] I did that trick, you know, and it doesn't matter the level of skill. It's just that personal, mental, physical challenge of going like, I can do this and you do it, you know.


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[Assistant] Well, everybody's a brand nowadays, not just, not just skate shops, just everybody, everybody's a brand, you know, like they're, I'm my own brand and you know, like that's what to some extent we, we all are. Um, but it's so, we're kind of like,


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[Assistant] It, it, it makes it harder because there's oversaturation in these little brands and I think that that creates an environment for the majors to succeed more because then you're, if there's all these little brands, it's a lot harder for them to become successful and then you have like the


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[Assistant] But you know, it used to be just like only companies that were come from our industry. We were our own industry. We created our own industry and now everybody that the industry that we created is suffering because everything that sells is a major corporate sponsor.


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[Assistant] Well, what you have is like attainable and then some people want to be gravitate towards the unattainable because it, they think that it elevates their themselves. But, uhm, ultimately, yeaah, skateboarding, you do represent real skateboarding because it is a community and people and all hanging out and you know, like once again, I don't know how you do it, but.


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[Assistant] You're right on time, Cholune. We're on the Captain's snack duty.


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[Assistant] What's up guys? Hopefully I'm not breaking up right now. Am I?


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[Assistant] Alright, well, let me tell you something. I'm down here at the Clevelander.


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[Assistant] Obviously I'll be here for the whole show. You'll come to me throughout the day.


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[Assistant] Uh, we've got some fans of the show here. Eddie's here, Sean is here, and we've got some other people that are coming down. So come on down and say hello. I'll be here. Earl is here with me. So we'll turn the camera so you can see Earl. There's Earl.


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[Assistant] Very specific. Well, who made this rule? I don't agree with this rule. I mean, I'm not a big Jersey guy.


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[Assistant] But let me, let me tell you guys, let me tell you guys real quick that the Clevelander is not only a great bar that I have spent a lot of time in, uh, doing pregame shows for the Cavs, pregame shows for, for the then Indians, now Guardians.


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[Assistant] Uh, great atmosphere. The manager here, Rachel, is awesome. She always takes great care of us when we're here. And they have, you know, it's a bar, but they have great food. Very, uh, underrated.


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[Assistant] We got a Christmas tree right here. There you go.


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[Assistant] And so, it's gonna be a good time. So, there's gonna be some fans coming out, and we'll be here to one, and then I know you guys are gonna come and have lunch with me here after, and uh, so.


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[Assistant] That's my guy, man. I met him. Shout out to him. That's right. You guys took a picture together. He said, he said Brad looks much younger on TV than he looks in person. That was the word I got.


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[Assistant] Are you ready to do that bad bad bull? Yeah sure, absolutely. Let's do it.


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[Assistant] So I got, let's start with Deshaun Watson. I think I've been saying all week, I actually on my podcast this morning made the pick. I think the Browns are going to win 35-13. I think it's going to be a, excuse me, 38-13. I think it's going to be a bludgeoning of the Texans this weekend.


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[Assistant] But I actually think leading the way is going to be Nick Chubb. I think Nick Chubb is going to run for 179 yards and have three touchdowns. I think everybody's expecting Watson to just go bananas in this game. And I think Deshaun Watson will have a good solid game, but I think by the second half, they'll be running all the time. And I think Nick Chubb will have over a hundred by halftime.


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[Assistant] And 179 and then he'll, he'll take a seat in the fourth quarter because they won't need him because they'll be up so big. So, uh, so I have him having a big game. I've watched it over 230, whatever it is, but not completing over 25 and a half passes because I don't think they're going to throw that much. I think he's going to be efficient and accurate. There will be some rust, but Texans are so bad that I think the Browns will have their way with them this week. All right.


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[Assistant] I don't think they need them this week. I wonder if they're just being precautionary because they figure they're gonna kick the Texans ass either way. I mean...


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[Assistant] Okay, uh, Chubb steals the show. Watson plays well, but Chubb is still the main act. I've been saying it all week. I said it earlier today.


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[Assistant] The best running back in football. Look at those arms. Look at those arms on Nick Chubb. He is a man amongst men, right? He is the man and Deshaun Watson is a great player, but Deshaun Watson hasn't played football in two years. They're gonna try to


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[Assistant] Oh, okay, so it's just a guess. I mean, listen, uh, until the Guardians, as much as I love the Guardians, until they lock down one of these players,


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[Assistant] I'll believe it when I see it because we've heard about that. They're close to the Braille. They're close to this guy. We've heard it for a few years until they actually spend the money. I'm not going to totally believe it. I do like both of those guys. I think, you know, Josh Bell is, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, Josh Bell is a solid player.


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[Assistant] He's, he's a fine option. I think I'd rather them...


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[Assistant] Well, they need a, you know, first basement DH. Uh, Naylor can't hit lefties at all.


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[Assistant] Uh, and he's just, I don't think he can get rid of Naylor. I think, I think you need, you need Naylor and two other players to cover first base in DH. Now they have some young guys they can use in the mix there, but a lot of those young guys that they have, the other guys,


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[Assistant] Number two, he is, for a catcher, as for an overall major league player, he's an average hitter. But for a catcher, he's well above average as an offensive player, and has good power. He's a guy who hit 15-20 home runs, correct? Not many guys hit 15 home runs.


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[Assistant] So he's an upgrade defensively and a massive upgrade offensively.


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[Assistant] Some of the stuff you were talking about before, I know I was breaking up, maybe I am again, and you gotta cut me out, but...


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[Assistant] They got a little lucky this year. Not everybody, not all those rookies are going to be as good in their second year. You have to add some veterans. I know you're like, well, we want a 30 homerun and catcher. Well, no, there's really no, no catchers outside of Salvador Perez and the Royals.


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[Assistant] Tyvis, you can't give me generic dorky white guy voice. I know there's a lot of generic dorky white guys. I'm not generic dorky white guy.


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[Assistant] I don't see that guys. I don't buy that the Texans players care. This idea.


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[Assistant] There we go. Good now. This is my final take. You know, I've been someone who has crapped on soccer most of my life. I'm not, I'm never going to be a soccer fan.


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[Assistant] Uh, but I have to admit I've watched at least parts of, uh, the last two games that the, uh, team USA has played. I'm actually interested in watching it tomorrow. The one thing I'll give to, I'll never be someone that finds soccer exciting. I know the people that love it find it exciting. I don't. But the one thing I'll give soccer credit for.


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[Assistant] So is, uh, this is the mark? We've not played this game before, but this is the mark. It's sad.


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[Assistant] It's wimpy. It's like, we're not committing to this game, clearly. We need a sturdier mark. We need like a, some kind of sturdier, can we get a stronger mark out here? Somebody?


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[Assistant] Now you're, cause you're working out like crazy right now, right?


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[Assistant] How, how does your family feel about, cause you have kids, uh, do they like that, I mean,


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[Assistant] Most kids don't have dads that have bodies like this. They must know that their dad... This is not a dad bod. This is...


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[Assistant] You can't win. Exactly. You just can't win. Now when you're on vacation like that, like that looked like you were on vacation, right? Uhm, do you, cause you get up, do you still get up at 3am to work out?


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[Assistant] I was gonna ask you, like, cause you're not on your start date anymore, but when you were working out, what time did you get up?


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[Assistant] Oh, that's sweet though. That's sweet that you love your daughter so much.


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[Assistant] Not at all, my dear. Authors go everywhere nowadays.


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[Assistant] Why in London, I even met actors and actresses in society. Ah, here he is now.


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[Assistant] My dear fellow, you're at the end of the table with my sister.


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[Assistant] Really, I have no patience with you. If you had any spirit, you'd have broken off your engagement, then I'm there.


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[Assistant] Well, things might be a great deal worse. Oh, thank heavens. Mercy, Joseph. Now, I'm just saying, Louisa, things might be a great deal worse. Oh.


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[Assistant] My poor Louisa. You have no imagination. When you're young, your emotions are violent, but they're not durable. It's a delusion that absence makes the heart grow fonder.


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[Assistant] After all, it's the only civilized country in the world. Isabel would marry Grey without thinking about it twice. Then, after a few months, if she was still in love with Larry...


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[Assistant] Though you've lived half your life in diplomatic society and half the capitals of the world, you've remained hopelessly American.


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[Assistant] You're very full of worldly wisdom this evening, Elliot. Have you ever known me not to be? I don't mind telling you I have a sneaking sympathy for the boy.


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[Assistant] He's young and he wants to sow his wild oats before he settles down to married life. Very natural and very proper. I'll keep my eye on him in Paris. Of course, he must cross on the Aquitania.


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[Assistant] So many Americans, when they go to Paris, get in with the wrong people. And then they find it no end of a job to shake them off.


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[Assistant] I'll have my chauffeur Marcel drive him about in the rolls. I detest the countryside.


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[Assistant] It would be perfect if I could arrange for some older woman to take him under her wing. Princess Nove Malle for instance. He is young and he has a good figure. I think she'd fall for him like a ton of bricks.


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[Assistant] That's the most incredible reason for refusing an invitation I've ever heard in my life. And where does he live?


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[Assistant] Might surprise you to know it, my dear, but I've already done so.


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[Assistant] Well, I must say, Isabel's taking it very well. She told you exactly what happened.


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[Assistant] Come, come child, be reasonable. I guess you were up to something.


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[Assistant] Am I right in surmising that you thought if you could get him to come back here, it was almost inevitable that the inevitable should happen?


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[Assistant] We know what the consequences may be when a poor girl strays from the narrow path of virtue. Do we? My guess is that if your unscrupulous planner come off...


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[Assistant] It wouldn't have been long after your return to Chicago before the wretched Larry got a letter from you telling him to come back at once and make an honest woman up.


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[Assistant] Nonsense. It was your sound middle-western horse sense. You'd have been mad to have married him.


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[Assistant] Believe me, when you've put the Atlantic between you and that young man, you won't care two straws for him. Trust your Uncle Elliot. He's a very wise old party.


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[Assistant] As soon as Isabella and Louisa went away, I dropped in like a hot potato. The most undesirable young man. I tried to find her the last time I was in Paris, but I couldn't. I wonder what's happened to her. Shall I tell you something, my dear fella? I don't care a row of beans.


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[Assistant] The crest belongs up here, up here. I'm not running in the Olympic games, you know. It'll all have to be done over immediately. Now about this robe. It's really dreadful. It's dreadful. And look at this tassel. Hideous.


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[Assistant] It should strike me here at the knees, lower, lower, so that when I walk, it'll sway. As it is now, it just bubbles. Where are my ties?


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[Assistant] The last time I passed through Paris you were away. Come in, come in. I have a house in the Riviera now.


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[Assistant] In fact, the shores of the Mediterranean are simply littered with royalties. Heavens knows, I'm not a snob.


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[Assistant] But, uh, just as a matter of interest, I don't mind telling you that on one occasion I had two ex-kings to lunch. Two.


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[Assistant] They were wiped out in the crash. Ah, yes, I heard that. Poor Isabelle even had to sell her jewels. Gray tried to get a job, but it appears there was no business. The result was a nervous breakdown, and he suffers from those frightful headaches.


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[Assistant] And what about you? Were you hurt in the crash? God tempers the wind to the showing lamb.


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[Assistant] Same to you. Thank you. Cocktail, Elliot? No, I would not like a cocktail. I'd drink nothing but Vichy.


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[Assistant] It's an experience no one can miss. It's like listening to music by moonlight.


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[Assistant] Ah, my dear fellow, how very nice to see you. And Larry. Well, this, this is a surprise. Sit down, sit down. Mr. Maugham said you were sick. Did he?


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[Assistant] Well, I am sick. But you don't look it. You look extremely well. Well.


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[Assistant] Really now, young Mr. Larry Darrell, that's the most sensible thing I've ever heard you say. Of course he's right. It's only a temporary indisposition.


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[Assistant] Too bad this should have happened just now. It's a particularly brilliant season.


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[Assistant] She hasn't asked me. It's a deliberate insult. Oh, don't be ridiculous. Why should she want to insult you? It's just an oversight. I'm not a man that people overlook. Perhaps she doesn't know you're in the south of France. Don't be ridiculous, Larry. Everybody knows I'm in the south of France. It's going to be the best party of the season. If I was on my deathbed, I'd go to it.


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[Assistant] Will you call the bishop and tell him I'd appreciate a feat? Send Father Charles, he's a friend of mine.


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[Assistant] I shall enter the kingdom of heaven with a letter of introduction from a prince of the church. I fancy all doors will be open to me. I'm afraid you'll find the company very mixed. Don't you believe it? There'll be none of this confounded democracy there.


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[Assistant] I'm a rich man in my way and I've left you everything I have. No, no, no. Grey, come here.


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[Assistant] Let's get a pattern envelope. I'll reply.


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[Assistant] Well, there's no reason why I should forget my manners as I'm leaving it. Are you ready? Yes, sir.


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[Assistant] Oh, Larry, don't be funny. This is serious.


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[Assistant] Excuse me in the trenches, it's going to be a long day and they will beat the brakes off of Ohio state. That, that's one way. Uh, but if these guys go out and you say, Hey man, we have the best receiver in college football. And you go out and say, Hey man, we have one of the best quarterbacks. And you know, if you haven't opened in this, in this time to run it, you take off for 10 yards and you go have a chance to win. But.


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[Assistant] Uh, just something else to the table, uh, that, that re that reinvigorates them, you know, to, to go ahead and make a championship run.


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[Assistant] All highways have been checked and it isn't possible that this car involved in the kidnapping of two men could have left the city. That is all.


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[Assistant] Pulse is weak and thready. 140. Pressure? 70 over 40.


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[Assistant] But the minute you start doing business for Tucker, doing Tucker's business, it's a different thing, Joe. Lawyers are not protected from the law.


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[Assistant] It's alright for you to do it. Without you, I wouldn't be alive anyway.


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[Assistant] Hello. Oh, excusez-moi, mademoiselle, je ne savais pas que c'était vous. Non, monsieur, Darrel n'est pas encore entré. Non. Un message pour lui. Oh, attendez, mademoiselle. Il arrive maintenant. Attendez. Monsieur Darrel, téléphone. Oh, merci.


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[Assistant] So in this statement, what I've said is either Trevor is not a unicorn. So this is the statement, not P now.


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[Assistant] All the years I can remember I've been getting out of places because they were hot. This time I think I'll stay.


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[Assistant] Well, that sounds more like my boy. I guess I sort of took you by surprise.


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[Assistant] Well, since I'm sort of your mother, I thought you'd like to know I'm...


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[Assistant] It ought to be worth something. That lawyer said he was going to get you a nice, soft job.


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[Assistant] I never saw as many cheapskates in my life. I knocked off early.


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[Assistant] I told him you'd never been away from home before. But in three months, she was already a lieutenant. I grossed around a little.


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[Assistant] And then they started flashing them baby pictures. You know the kind. Little monkeys, flat naked. They thought they had me there.


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[Assistant] So I just cracked open a newspaper and showed them a picture of a good-looking soldier. For a minute they thought they'd nailed me, because it said Captain under the picture. So I said, well, what do you know? He's got himself promoted again. That's when they froze.


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[Assistant] When it comes right down to it, there's nothing like good home cooking.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, there ain't no dessert. We was gonna have pineapple, but the grocer looked around.


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[Assistant] And remember, I don't care how you get it. Understand?


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[Assistant] And to Florence and Rome and Madrid. Madrid isn't in Italy, Jane. That road goes there all the same. We'll drive along it one day when we're grown up, Helen, in a lovely coat and fur. And I'll have beautiful curly hair just like yours. And I'll have read all the books in the world. And I'll play the piano and talk French almost as well as you do.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm sorry, sir, but it's against the rules to let anyone in after hours. Then don't let me in. It's around the gate somewhere. Just hand it to me. I'll see if it's in the gate house.


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[Assistant] I'll bet he has a fine collection of purses, gloves and umbrellas and what not. Probably does a brisk business selling them.


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[Assistant] We hope you have enjoyed Cards on the Table by Agatha Christie. Performed by Hugh Fraser.


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[Assistant] Slaves, masters, and a secret sex cult, and now a federal indictment. A&E investigates Nexium.


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[Assistant] Suspend your skepticism and say okay, you know. Day three, day three of the five, the


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[Assistant] What was the charisma? Because I've watched all the videos on YouTube and I've seen all the, you know, the films of him speaking on stage. I don't get it, Sarah.


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[Assistant] What does he do? Does he get close to you? Stare into your eyes? Does he touch your arm while he's talking?


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[Assistant] You actually said at one point you thought you were a bunch of badass bitches.


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[Assistant] To their masters. Right. You had to respond within 60 seconds if she texted you.


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[Assistant] Day or night? Correct. What happens if it was 4am?


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[Assistant] Initially you had said after you were branded. You actually felt proud that you had gone through this.


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[Assistant] Alison Maxhome. And there's been a lot said about the fact that the brand shows Keith Raniere's initials, KR.


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[Assistant] They also show Allison Mack's initials, AM. It appears to be that way.


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[Assistant] Keith Ranieri denied that he had anything to do with DOS, and yet the night you were branded, each of you took turns holding an iPhone.


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[Assistant] Doctor, I wanted to get some of your reaction to this.


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[Assistant] Why would anybody do an experiment like that?


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[Assistant] What are the emotions? Do you finally feel vindication? Do you feel triumph? Do you feel shock? Because these are serious churches.


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[Assistant] Affidavit, I mean, part of it reads...


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[Assistant] Some of the masters gave their slaves assignments that either directly or implicitly required them to have sex with Raniere, which they then did.


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[Assistant] At another part, Ranieri acknowledged to one DOS victim that his initials were incorporated into the brand as a form of tribute to him.


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[Assistant] I think all the three major news magazines put on their covers these close up shots of the cult leader with the hair and the fire behind him and looking kind of crazy eyed.


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[Assistant] And then captions like the sinful messiah or death cult or something like this. And it just fed all the fears.


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[Assistant] That we have down the road some kind of a Charles Manson type character that God knows could break loose and be planning what kind of havoc.


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[Assistant] Upon us and, uh, of course there was no knowledge or understanding among the more general public about who


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[Assistant] His child molesting sex maniac, David Koresh, stored a bunch of arms and ended up committing suicide.


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[Assistant] The way Waco should be remembered is to have a full understanding of both sides, the Branch Davidians and who they were.


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[Assistant] The government and how it operated and why the clash between the two led to this disaster.


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[Assistant] The Seventh-day Adventist Movement is from the 19th century.


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[Assistant] It's, I think, most characterized by its name, uh, Adventist, the idea of the Advent of Christ, the return of Christ, usually called the Second Coming.


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[Assistant] So it's a group that began to believe that the end of time was very near.


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[Assistant] Is a restless soul. He seems to have this photographic memory, at least when it comes to reading the Bible. He's not so great in school.


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[Assistant] But he knows the Bible, seemingly by memory.


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[Assistant] He did think he was a second messiah, a kind of a second Christ.


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[Assistant] A second messiah, a kind of a second Christ, but he didn't think he was Jesus Christ.


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[Assistant] He changes his name to David Koresh after the 85 Israel experience.


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[Assistant] It's actually the Hebrew word for Cyrus, and Cyrus is his Persian king, who in the Bible is actually called a Messiah.


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[Assistant] From the outside, I think any of us hearing it...


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[Assistant] Would have to say that it's the craziest, most bizarre thing in the world, but it gets worse. All those women are potentially now mates of David Koresh. They're his wives because the Messiah is going to have these many wives and they're going to have children.


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[Assistant] There would be 24 of these children. And he found that in the book of Revelation. There's a group of 24 elders that will be the pillars of the new kingdom.


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[Assistant] It's absolutely the most difficult thing to believe.


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[Assistant] Koresh and the group at Mount Carmel did increasingly believe as the years went by that at the end of time, they would be called upon to fight.


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[Assistant] Even though Jesus said love your enemies and the ideal of Christianity is peace, toward the end, if you read the book of Revelation, there are armies of heaven and they fight on the side of right and lots of people get killed and the righteous forces defeat the evil forces.


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[Assistant] So he taught his followers and he himself believed that they needed to be prepared for them.


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[Assistant] And people have been firing and people have been killed.


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[Assistant] David immediately begins talking about the seven seals. And I think that...


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[Assistant] In a literal as well as a more symbolic way tells us all about Wacom.


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[Assistant] The firing and he clearly should not be expected to suddenly, you know, get a cup of coffee and get his Bible out.


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[Assistant] Surrender and come out and face the music, so to speak, if he could just have an hour on national radio.


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[Assistant] If you listen to those tapes, what I call the last words of David Kourosh, and they are his last recorded words, he was very upbeat. He talks about he's writing the manuscript, plus I just think they want it out.


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[Assistant] When the fire first took place, my assumption was that the tanks had started the fire. And then, as more evidence came out,


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[Assistant] There are, uh, some tapes, usually called the bug tapes. They were these little listening devices that were put into place.


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[Assistant] These tapes aren't real easy to hear, but I think there's enough that indicates talk about the Davidians spreading oil, planning to possibly light the place.


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[Assistant] What we don't know is, was that a defensive measure or a suicidal measure?


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[Assistant] In other words, some sort of idea that if they come in to get us, we will create a wall of fire.


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[Assistant] Around the camp of God, and we will be caught up into heaven.


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[Assistant] Now as crazy as that sounds, there's scriptures that are in the prophets.


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[Assistant] That Korish was aware of. That say, I will make a wall of fire around you and save you.


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[Assistant] Failed, but that he had convinced himself that he was who he said he was. That's my sense of studying messiahs throughout history. He's not the first, certainly not the last.


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[Assistant] Vernon Howell, or David Koresh, that's who we know, was a pretty typical Texas redneck kid, maybe from a bit more troubled family. His biological father abandoned him.


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[Assistant] When he was very young and his mother remarried quickly and a marriage that didn't last long and then remarried again.


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[Assistant] David was a poor student in school and they put him in a program for children with learning disabilities.


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[Assistant] So he grew up in a very unstable situation as a small child. But the one continual influence in his life was Seventh Day Adventist Church.


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[Assistant] Vernon hung out with high school students after he had dropped out. Met a young lady who asked him for a ride home. She invited him into her bedroom


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[Assistant] Open those seals, meaning to claim understanding of what these passages of revelation said, which meant


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[Assistant] That he was beginning to claim that he was the lamb of God. A messenger of the covenant.


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[Assistant] Or that he was a new prophet, or the seventh angel, or any of these other things. He would merely ask you questions. Very Socratic about it.


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[Assistant] He drew people from England, Australia, and from the West Indies.


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[Assistant] The local authorities investigated this and their problem was they couldn't find a complainant.


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[Assistant] Meaning before you can arrest somebody, you have to have somebody who says a crime was committed. And nobody saw what David was doing as a crime. The young women felt it was a great privilege


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[Assistant] And the parents thought this was a great honor being bestowed upon their daughters. And if you're hardcore Mount Carmel Bible student, you're not worried about man's law. You're worried about eternity. That's God's law.


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[Assistant] The ATF had a budget hearing coming up, I believe on March the 20th. They were being sued by their black and their female agents for discrimination. They didn't feel comfortable asking for more money at that budget hearing with a record like that.


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[Assistant] So they thought, we have this compound of white fundamentalist Christian gun nuts. What greater prize could you take to a democratic congress? Then we'll get some more money. That's the suspicion.


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[Assistant] And what was supposed to happen is they were supposed to arrest David and any people who resisted.


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[Assistant] They learned that the guys probably wouldn't be outside that morning because it had rained and the shelter they were digging was all mud. There was nobody outside working.


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[Assistant] His blood pressure was terribly low because of loss of blood. He refused medication. Antibiotics, aspirin, anything. He said the Lord is going to decide this.


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[Assistant] And the men were to come out afterwards with their hands up to show that they weren't armed. So there was a procession negotiated.


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[Assistant] To giving up on his theological project, which was to be Christ at end of world times.


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[Assistant] The general mistake made by the FBI, by the press and the public was to project themselves onto Koresh.


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[Assistant] To say, oh, he's a human being like me, so he has the same motivations I do. That was never true.


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[Assistant] The people in Mount Carmel were motivated by strange and deep religious convictions.


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[Assistant] Meaning those FBI agents who were driving tanks and manning weapons became more and more aggressive.


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[Assistant] And that this harmed the negotiations because as far as the people inside Mount Carmel were concerned, this showed bad faith.


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[Assistant] When a man drives over your car with a tank, you don't feel like negotiating with him. When he's mooning you, you don't feel like negotiating with him.


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[Assistant] The sound of chickens being killed at high volume all night at your house doesn't lend itself to negotiations. So I think what we can say is the longer the siege went on, the less influential the negotiators were.


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[Assistant] I think the FBI knew that you could never take David's word for final. He had proved that.


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[Assistant] On the other hand, that doesn't mean you had to ram his house with tanks.


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[Assistant] David Koresh and Stephen Snyder were found together, burned, and both of them dead.


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[Assistant] Of what appear to be self-inflicted gunshot wounds.


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[Assistant] But the ballistics don't allow anyone to decide who shot who. Did each shoot himself


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[Assistant] Or as some people think, did Schneider shoot Koresh and then shoot himself?


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[Assistant] They were charged with conspiracy to murder federal agents and murder of federal agents and of using a firearm to do that and with various gun possession charges.


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[Assistant] Oh, he had a gun. I didn't think he was the type.


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[Assistant] She really didn't try love, Mr. Winter. From what I know about Marla, it's hard to believe. Eh, Marla?


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[Assistant] So you're stubborn, Mr. Mitchell. A stubborn murderer.


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[Assistant] If you think I shot to kill, you underestimate me. Now why don't you be reasonable? The sooner you come out and answer a few questions, the sooner you will get medical attention.


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[Assistant] Yes. The good doctor was offered a fantastic amount of money.


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[Assistant] If he would see to it that Piers stopped printing his columns. Piers had a known heart condition.


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[Assistant] Don't let Gil's work disturb your train of thought. You were telling me I wanted to compromise the document.


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[Assistant] When a rat can't be reached any other way, he can always be burned out.


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[Assistant] I was under the impression there was bad blood between you and Mr. Sidney.


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[Assistant] No, that's most unfortunate because I shall no doubt visit you again as a meddlesome official. As it stands, I shall enter what has been told me in my report.


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[Assistant] I'll raise you 200. I've had enough. Oh, Mr. Moore.


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[Assistant] You know, the brainwashing techniques of this organization are really incredibly effective.


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[Assistant] I found out I was not getting a tattoo. I was going to be branded.


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[Assistant] More deeply Kip got involved with the church, uh, the more depressed he became. So I sat down with Kip and we discussed this problem with him and, uh, to find out what was bothering him.


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[Assistant] When Kip went to the LDS counselors, they only reinforced the teachings of the church, which just increased Kip's feelings of unworthiness. I know it.


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[Assistant] They get so locked in that they're afraid to even take another look. We've run into it many times where they have admitted.


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[Assistant] Because when I make this known, what I have discovered, I will lose it all.


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[Assistant] The execution of the penalty is represented by placing the right thumb under the left ear.


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[Assistant] Drawing the thumb quickly across the throat to the right ear and dropping the hand to the side.


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[Assistant] The execution of the penalty is represented by drawing the thumb quickly across the body and dropping the hands to the side.


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[Assistant] I'm standing here in beautiful Jerusalem. This impressive structure is built on the sacred side of Mount Scopus by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as an extension to Brigham Young University.


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[Assistant] I believe that it's very important for the Jewish people to know about the deception and misrepresentation that was employed in building this Mormon edifice. Mormons use political intrigue


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[Assistant] And great sums of money in order to cover up their true intents.


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[Assistant] Most of the religious Jews of Jerusalem consider this Mormon structure an abomination and sacrilege of holy ground.


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[Assistant] And are outraged by its presence. These clothes that I'm wearing are the authentic Mormon temple attire, which Mormons believe are copied from the actual attire that the priesthood wore in the Temple of Solomon that stood on this site behind me.


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[Assistant] Mormons believe that there's been an apostasy in Judaism and that they hold the only true authority to administer in the rituals of the temple that will be performed here in Jerusalem.


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[Assistant] Mormons believe that they are the only true Jews on earth today, that they come from the tribe of Ephraim.


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[Assistant] The, the blood of Israel. Mormons believe that they will build the New Jerusalem near Independence, Missouri, and it will be the primary capital of the Kingdom of God on the earth, and in Jerusalem will be the secondary capital, which will be administered by Jews.


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[Assistant] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints came here to Jerusalem under the banner of Christianity to establish this edifice and to


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[Assistant] Establish their presence here when they're no more true Christians than they are


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[Assistant] I will appear in Mexicali and, uh, be very impatient to come to the United States. Now, I can be very impatient, as you know. So, things will occur and, uh,


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[Assistant] Hey Hugo, do you know one thing? This man is not a bracero.


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[Assistant] Oh ho! In your own country you are very famous, no?


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[Assistant] You followed us up good, didn't you? You're always so smart, so careful. A mastermind nobody could touch.


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[Assistant] The new contract for Atlas Machine and Tool is coming up in three weeks. I suggest we get together on terms as soon as possible.


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[Assistant] That outfit of yours doesn't live right. Maybe you oughta work for somebody else.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Aunt Mert's worried too. She thinks maybe he's sick or something and won't say. Hank, I'm worried about us.


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[Assistant] I know, Hank, you told me last time through. By the way, did you ask for the raise?


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[Assistant] I'm not kidding. If you don't ask for that raise, I'll... I'll...


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[Assistant] What's the idea of making a heel out of a perfectly nice guy like George?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. What about that fire engine red job over in Bakersfield?


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[Assistant] Oh Hank, you're not gonna go dodging around in alleys. Come on. I'll fix you some pie ala mode.


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[Assistant] Why don't you tell him you were good friends? Why don't you tell him you weren't even there when it happened?


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[Assistant] You wanna know something, Hank? I was just thinking about you.


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[Assistant] No, but I've been thinking over what you said about trusting you.


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[Assistant] Oh, knowing how thorough you are, I see that part all too well.


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[Assistant] He says that you never got hurt yourself. But you're always somewhere around when the worst ones happen.


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[Assistant] I've had just about as much as I can stand for one night, Hank Wilson.


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[Assistant] I'm beginning to think he isn't even a truck driver, but a detective in disguise. But why should he spy on Pops? He said Pops was the cause of all those wrecks. He said Pops has a criminal record in Chicago. That isn't true, is it, Aunt Mert?


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[Assistant] All we have to do is tell the cops our theory.


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[Assistant] You're not by any chance thinking of that fire engine red job over in Bakersfield.


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[Assistant] Then you better get started. I can't think of a better way to spend a buck, can you, Mr. Keller?


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[Assistant] What's funny? Say what's all this about and where did you meet Stella?


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[Assistant] No, I've seen people act like that in pictures. What do they call them, zombies or something?


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[Assistant] Why? I don't exactly know. I went into her room this morning and she was gone. She just vanished.


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[Assistant] We have a universal quantifier at the front. So for all x in the positive integers, so every positive integer you can imagine, then,


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[Assistant] And for all of those three different numbers, they're not greater than three. They're, they're less than or equal to three.


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[Assistant] And I'm gonna write the negation down in the same basic way that I argued the original statement was going to be false. Namely...


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[Assistant] I found some x's in the positive integers. One, two, and three.


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[Assistant] That had the property that they were less than three or in other words that they were not greater than three.


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[Assistant] And in particular, the ones that I'm claiming are one, two, and three. Those are the ones that are not strictly going to be bigger than three.


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[Assistant] And effectively what's happened here is that if I've got some predicate p of x here, this is NOT p of x. So notice what's happened. Two different things, I think.


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[Assistant] One was that I began with a for-all symbol, and I


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[Assistant] I twisted it around when I did the negation and it turned into a there exist. And this should make sense to us. If it is not the case that everything is true, there must be something where it's false.


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[Assistant] So that was the first part, the for all changes into there exist. The next part is that I've got the x greater than 3. That's just some predicate p of x.


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[Assistant] First part is the not sign that's sticking out the front. So what I'm saying is I am negating this whole statement that I have in the middle.


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[Assistant] So I'm negating the statement. Now, the statement itself is the typical way that I use the universal quantifier on a predicate. It says for all x's in the domain, some property is true.


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[Assistant] And then when we negate it, this has two different effects. The first is that the for all is going to switch to being a there exists.


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[Assistant] And the second is that the negation that we have out the front, it ends up hiding out in front of the predicate. So in other words, if I am saying it is not the case,


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[Assistant] It is not the case that for all values some property is true. I'm saying there is at least one value where the property is false. That's what I mean when I negate a universal.


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[Assistant] Now let's look at the statement, someone in our class is taller than seven feet.


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[Assistant] There, this particular person has some property, I'm gonna write it as p of x, where the property p of x is equal to x is taller.


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[Assistant] So this English sentence has been phrased as this existential quantifier on a predicate with this particular domain and with this particular predicate.


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[Assistant] Alright, now I want to negate this sentence that I've done. I want to come out the front of it, that's my whole big mathematical sentence, and I want to negate it. Now,


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[Assistant] If I'm saying that it is not the case that somebody is taller than seven feet, I am saying that nobody is taller than seven feet. Or another way to say that is that everybody is shorter than seven feet.


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[Assistant] My guest tonight is a death-defying magician who will be kicking off a North American tour on May 6th. Please welcome David Blaine.


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[Assistant] It must be weird being a world renowned magician because I know I do it and I feel like everyone does it around you. I don't like trust you.


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[Assistant] And this went on for several years and basically most of the girls they requested me to bring to them were black girls. And most of them were...


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[Assistant] There were supposed to be important people and supposed to be, uh, good church-going people and things like that. Some of them were bishops and cowherds and various things that I actually seen going there or leaving.


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[Assistant] One way, when you're asking the key player in the game, Denzel hasn't been Denzel this year, so even if he plays, Miles is the one who can change the whole thing. If he's getting there and speeding up the patterns a little bit, that might be your best way to neutralize Tyreek is to just let Miles get after him.