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[Assistant] So the top 5 so far for you guys has 4 Cavs and 1 player on the Magic. Donovan 1, Paolo Bancare 2, Jared Allen 3, Evan Mobley 4, Darius Garland 5.


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[Assistant] What you guys did? Different, we have the same eight players. You guys.


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[Assistant] And he doesn't play, right? He plays 20 minutes a game. Oh, he does? Yeaah, it is Ingles. Yeaah, yeaah, yeaah. Isaac's like 25, 26.


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[Assistant] Palo Bankero 2, Jared Allen 3, Evan Mobley 4, Darius Garland 5, your back half of the top 10, Franz Wagner 6, Jalen Sugg 7, Jonathan Isaac 8, Max Drus 9, Isaac Okoro 10. I wanna congratulate you guys.


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[Assistant] We have the exact same ten players. No kidding! And the order? More similar than I...


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[Assistant] Well, give you guys credit, more similar than I thought, and you guys did better than us on one. I spelt Paolo Bencaro's name wrong on the graphic. My bad, Paolo. But we were unanimous with the top three in the same order. Jason and I exactly the same. We didn't think there was much argument. Donovan won, Paolo too. And once again, I spelt his name wrong. Paolo, I apologize. I did a whole film breakdown on you. It took 20 minutes on YouTube.


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[Assistant] Call Apollo Banker for this. No, he's a stud. Absolute stud. Jared Allen III.


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[Assistant] I actually had Darius Garland 4, Jason had Evan Mobley 4. We went back and forth and we ended up going with Mobley.


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[Assistant] My issue with Mowby in the series is I think spacing and shooting is going to be at an absolute premium. Yep. And I'm not quite sure if they can play the two bigs at the same time. That's my concern too. That's why I moved him a little lower on my list. Orlando's long. Very, very, and their half court defense is phenomenal. I think Darius, he hit that big shot against Indiana in the regular season, second to last game. Uh, he didn't play against Charlotte.


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[Assistant] I feel more better about his situation against this specific Orlando matchup. That's why I had him hire, but I let Jason get the, uh, the mobile for Isaac. You guys mentioned him.


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[Assistant] He plays 20 minutes a game in the regular season. He's always hurt. When he's healthy, he might be the single best defensive player in the entire NBA, not named Victor Wembenyama. If he played more than 20 minutes, he would be legitimately in the defensive player that you're, uh, discussing every year.


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[Assistant] I do. He's healthy. I think he's gonna play 30-35. See, I agree with that. I think he's gonna be a way bigger factor in this series. Jason and I both had him at five, by the way. Okay. So that was our top five. On the back half, we had Darius Garland at six. We went back and forth on him versus Suggs. We felt that Darius' offense


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[Assistant] Was not as good as Jalen's defense. Suggs defensively is an absolute monster, but Suggs hasn't ever made a shot in a postseason game. Darius has that experience now, so we gave him the slightest of edges. We went to Wagner at eight, uh, Wagner at eight, and we had Struz and Okura with same orders. My guess is the Cavs


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[Assistant] You did have him the highest. His shooting numbers over the last two months have been abysmal. He shot 19% from 3 in the month of March.


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[Assistant] He's going to get the, you better make one before not. That's exactly right. The guys I spoke to yesterday, not just from the cast, but from across the league, like this guy is way better than the numbers give you have to watch him. And I've watched him and obviously I know he's a good player. He was in the all-star conversation last year. This is based on right now.


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[Assistant] I think I put a little too much context into his recent shooting slump. Probably should have had him a little higher. That's a bad job out of me and Jason, but.


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[Assistant] It's more just the order. Karis Levert was the one that I thought. I thought about Levert. Jason and I said the same thing.


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[Assistant] Good Karras is top six. Yes. Bad Karras is number 16. So I didn't feel comfortable putting him in a top 10 when you just don't know on a game to game basis what you're going to get.


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[Assistant] Uh, Wendell's better than the other Wagner. He's, I mean, he's, he's the third best three point shooter. And he does provide a little spacing. He shot 35% from three this year. Definitely a good player, but he's not a guy that really run a lot of offense for.


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[Assistant] Their whole offense is get the ball to Palo, get it to Wagner, let them kind of go Isoball one on one. They take a lot of long twos. They shot the fewest amount of three-pointers in the entire NBA this season.


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[Assistant] In my opinion, you can't let their other guys, not named Franz, not named Palo, get open looks. Let those two score. Right. Especially Palo. If he wants to take a bunch of long twos, let it happen. But essentially what Yukon did against Purdue in the championship game.


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[Assistant] Let Zach Edie get his, the rest of the guys can't beat you. That, that would be my, uh, defensive principle and strategy against the magic in the series.


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[Assistant] And if Sucks is on Donovan, that's still a tough matchup. And I think, and I'm just guessing.


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[Assistant] They're gonna have Suggs, uh, not Suggs, excuse me. They start Suggs on Donovan, and I don't think they blitz it first. I think they'll feel comfortable with Suggs trying to fight over screens and play Donovan straight up. If that doesn't work, then they'll switch and put Gary Harris on Donovan, Suggs on Darius, blitz Donovan off pick and rolls, and let Suggs deal with Darius one on one. So, we'll see.


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[Assistant] You do know JB and Jamal Mosley are best friends. I do. I do. They are cut from the same cloth. Yeaah, it's going to be rea- it's going to be interesting.


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[Assistant] In total home runs, bold, they're 16th by the way. In total home runs. Okay.


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[Assistant] Uh, Daryl says, make sure you guys tune in to WKYC Channel 3 at 12.30. Let's go. Daryl, you're right. Make sure you listen and tune in on that. And Reggie says, Hey guys, love the show. I'm loving the Guardians. It reminds me of the 90s. Let's go.


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[Assistant] You have to actually go through the effects of throwing in a dome versus throwing outside. And I think that it's difficult.


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[Assistant] There's all these different things and elements. Like, what is your thought process on? What would you rather do? Be an adult?


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[Assistant] Or be outside. Like, is there any advantage to you in terms of being outside?


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[Assistant] No, and it's the best decision I've ever made. I picked the final four, but I did not make a bracket.


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[Assistant] I'm not buying that they're the number one threat, I'll put them at number two. I would definitely put the Chiefs, I mean not the Chiefs, the Bengals at one because they've done it, you know, and they, with the off-season moves that they've made, I still think that their roster is good enough to still beat the Chiefs. Uhm, but the Browns, they can be right there. I think the biggest thing,


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[Assistant] for the Browns last year is that they, the attitude and the way that they went about playing.


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[Assistant] Uh, it was 2020. Yeah, whenever that was. They were right there in a game.


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[Assistant] True! But they were right there. So it wasn't like they were that far off. And it lets me know that Kevin Stefanski actually does have a good


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[Assistant] Play calling style that he can actually put them in position to win those games. So now you add Jim Schwartz to that with what he's done defensively. They have what it takes to beat the Chiefs. They could dethrone the Chiefs off the AFC.


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[Assistant] They just gotta stay healthy, and everything has to come together with all the moves that they made, with guys getting healthy, and with them getting Jerry Judy, and you need the Darius Smith to step up. But, my number one thing, if I had to pick right now as the number one threat to the Chiefs, I would have to go with Cincinnati because they've done it, and they've done it consistently.


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[Assistant] We had the same record as them this year. As the Chiefs. And the AFC North is going to be even better.


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[Assistant] No, we're looking at you like you're out of your mind because you're completely dismissing the fact that they got rid of some players. That is crazy. And you're dismissing the fact that


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[Assistant] The bills, the bills, uh, uh, listen. You know how I feel about winning records in quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] Would you say- Would you say that Diggs kinda took a dive towards- He did.


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[Assistant] Yes, because they have, they need to address their defense end concerns. And they need to receive.


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[Assistant] That's because they went from what they were supposed to do. That was such a dumb game. The defensive game plan was ridiculous. They went to zone. They've been a man to man team the entire year. They went to zone and Patty just picked them apart. I'll tell you another team. Picked them apart.


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[Assistant] Of course he, of course he won't. Go Bucks. Nah, it's coming.


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[Assistant] Jinu? Yeaah. I told, I told you the one play.


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[Assistant] What was, uh, what did he go, what was his record, uh, the back of Court of Ecstasy?


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[Assistant] Well they started off, I think they, they started off terribly this year. Right. Last year, Cincinnati. Yeaah. It was like 0 and 2, right? Yeaah. Go ahead, Mike.


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[Assistant] But the obvious answer for me was Elijah Moore. Right. I mean Elijah Moore went from literally going from wide receiver 2 to wide receiver 3. Right. And obviously, you know,


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[Assistant] He was counting on this year to be considered the number two so he can get the bag because this is his contract year. Uhm, but now that they've added Jerry Judy and they've paid Jerry Judy,


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[Assistant] You gotta feature him now because now you have to show everybody why we paid this man.


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[Assistant] So I think a lot of the game plan would be tailored more towards Jerry Judy to getting him his first thousand yard season. So fans will be like, oh, this was a good move. You know, he came here and got with Deshaun and now Deshaun and him. Jerry Judy looked like a top wide receiver in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Is that he still can do the getting the ball out the backfield. Oh no.


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[Assistant] You know what? He's 800 yards. Book it. No. What'd I say yesterday? 756.


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[Assistant] Here's what I think they'll do. So, so, okay, so you got, you got Jameis on the one and Huntley on the one.


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[Assistant] Because, because, because DTR is still a young guy on a rookie con. Right.


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[Assistant] Everybody wanna strike when they got a quarterback that's on a rookie deal. If you could, if DTR shows that promise that he can come in and be a starter and make plays.


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[Assistant] Which he wasn't bad. His receivers did him no favors. Can you admit that?


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[Assistant] My second choice was going to be Eka because he went from, he literally went from,


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[Assistant] I hope that, I sure hope he goes out there and, and, and develop a pass rush. I don't think he has to worry about the run, the run defense. I think it's more of a pass rush thing. He needs to maybe cut a couple pounds. He needs to get better hands.


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[Assistant] Our backup center situation isn't great. You know, Tristan Thompson, he's come back and he hasn't been...


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[Assistant] But anyways, to have a guy- I'm not saying that Evan Mobley should come back and-


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[Assistant] Obviously going to lineup with Jared Allen, I think they figured out that, you know, those two work best when they're not in the same lineup. So if you can bring in Evan Mobley and let him be the backup center, now you got a guy who can.


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[Assistant] Even though he doesn't take a lot of threes when he is at the five, you can go five out.


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[Assistant] You can let him dominate the inside by himself, like, and he still brings that defensive presence in there, you know, so I think that Evan Mobley to me, Struz, I mean, Struz is fine, but I think you got, you got some shooters right now, you know, with Sam Merrill finally starting to get back to


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[Assistant] The, the Sam that Mikey loves, uh, Dean Wade continues to improve history. You know, I think you got enough shooters to get it done. I just think that that backup center role is the one that can get kind of funky because if Jared Allen goes out,


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[Assistant] And you depending on Tristan Thompson and he's not what he was before the suspension, then you got a little hole right there.


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[Assistant] But, uh. Imani beats. No. This is deep.


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[Assistant] I mean, Evan Mobley wasn't no better last year. Oh, he's no.


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[Assistant] And on top of that, if somebody leaves a hundred million dollars on the table, you better utilize the hundred million dollars. If I'm Jose, I'm going back in there and say hey.


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[Assistant] I need my money because y'all ain't gonna use it, so you might as well put it back in my pocket. They're too busy putting it in the Matt Dolans film.


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[Assistant] We stopped doing, that's a shame. We, we stopped doing that in 2006.


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[Assistant] Right? And my mother was, I was, I had like a fro and I wanted braids at the time. And my mother was like, no, you're getting a haircut. And I said, mom, I don't want a haircut. Like I want to get braids. She was not having it. So I said, you know what? I'm running away. She said, all right, bye.


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[Assistant] The Jamis thing was cool. I listen. Jamis is a, he's a funny guy. I mean, the thing about Jamis is he gonna come in there, he's gonna get...


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[Assistant] The locker room, he's going to win the locker room over instantly because of the personality that he has. And he's a guy that's going to go out there and he's going to ride with you. That's the thing. Like I said, we talked about the guy getting his first touchdown. He did that for him. So if that's the case, he's a player's guy. I think James is going to do well.


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[Assistant] And welcome everybody to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show here on WKYC Channel 3. Thank you for joining us. I am Adam the Bull. We got a bunch of great topics to get to today, including the Cleveland Guardians, the season right around the corner.


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[Assistant] Guardian's first regular season game is in 13 days, but we're going to talk about their future. Who is their best hitting prospect right now? We'll talk about it coming up in a little bit. Jason.


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[Assistant] All right, Mikey Mcnuggets, uh, Deshaun Watson, guys. Uh, there's been so much talk about him, deservedly so. Deshaun's been here for two years. So far, his Brown's career has been a massive disappointment.


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[Assistant] But it appears that the Browns have put more talent around him now by adding Jerry Judy.


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[Assistant] Uh, and others than they've ever had. But is it enough? You've talked about, start with you, G, cause you, you're Mr. Operation Stockpile. Have the Browns put enough talent around the Sean Watson that


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[Assistant] You guys are 100% right. This is it. Sean had two years, he hasn't done anything, but it's not over. This contract's not a two-year contract, it's a five-year contract. He can turn everything around this season and he's got more than enough weapons to do it. Yeah, we all want to get greedy. You'd always take more if you could get them.


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[Assistant] They have a top 15 wide receiver. They have two top 30 wide receivers. If Nick Chubb is right, he's a top five running back. David Najoku at worst is a top 10 tight end. Jerome Ford's a fine number two running back. Naheem Hines is a good third down back. I mean, what else do you need? Elijah Moore, I don't love him.


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[Assistant] But Deshaun Watson has more than enough talent. He's been two years already. It's now time for him to put up or shut up. He's got to get it done this year.


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[Assistant] Alright, we move on from the weapons he has to all the players that they've acquired and including some re-signings, Mike. We're gonna give a grade to all, you got nine guys you picked.


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[Assistant] The Browns have added a little more than that, including the re-signing, but we're leaving some of the fringe guys. But the top nine guys, the Browns have added either re-signing through free agency or through trade. And we're all going to give three grades. We'll talk about it a little bit. Mike, start us off.


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[Assistant] The only reason I wouldn't even give, I think your grade is right on. I might even go higher if you, just because he's older, I probably think people are just there. Go ahead Mike, next.


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[Assistant] I didn't, I, I, I, then I was worried I went too high and then I was kind of going back and forth between an A, an A- and a B+. Because Jerry Judy's been underwhelming. You know, you, you trade for a guy like this with ability. Part of you wants to just get excited and think about the upside.


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[Assistant] But then I said to myself, well, worst case scenario, he's what he's been the last four years, which is still better than what they had at Elijah Moore. They gave up what I think is essentially nothing in a fifth and sixth round pick that they didn't really need and might have been guys who couldn't make the team anyway.


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[Assistant] I actually like him more than you guys. I give that move a B+.


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[Assistant] I'm a big night. I always liked him as a third down back and he returns kicks and punts. So he has three different ways he can help the team. He's their best pass catcher right now as a running back and a good return guy. He fills a number of holes and you're paying him nothing. So I like it as a B plus.


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[Assistant] This was a tricky one for me. I think I gave him. What did I give him? I don't know. Put it up there. I can't remember. B minus. There you go. B minus.


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[Assistant] This was, and it tells you how I think of what the Browns have done because this is my lowest grade really. I like this move less than any of the moves the Browns have made because I just think Zadarius is eh.


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[Assistant] You know, old school stats, he wasn't very good. New school stats, he was. He's a good, you know, PFF, he was top 20.


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[Assistant] But, he's only gotten about seven sacks in his last twenty-something games. I don't like that. But!


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[Assistant] G-Push got me feeling better about it because he made a good point.


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[Assistant] That, that Zedarius kind of helped push Myles Garrett last year. And so that's why I went with the B- instead of going even lower. So there you go.


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[Assistant] I think it's like an A minus. Sheldon Richardson was the last decent pass rusher they had at Defensive Tackle and he never had, I don't even think he had five sacks. I think he had four and four both years. So, he's a guy who can get to about five, six sacks. That's something they really haven't had in the interior.


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[Assistant] I think I gave that an A-. You did. I like both guys. I think they're both, they're both back at a cheap dollar. They both contributed. Uh, the only reason I don't give a full A is because one guy's, they're both old and Hearst is injury prone, but


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[Assistant] They did everything we could have asked of them last year at a high level and they did it, you know, so they're good signings at a cheap price.


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[Assistant] A plus for me, the guy was one of the better punters in the league, they needed a punter, and the whole special teams, three guys, are all back. Mikey!


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[Assistant] AM to 1 PM plus overtime. If you're a member, you've only watched us on channel three, make sure you check us out. When we come back, free throws changing in the NBA. What is going on? We'll get into it next right here on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show on WKYC.


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[Assistant] Welcome back to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show here. I almost forgot the name of the show. I'm not going to lie. I almost forgot the name of the show there for a second here on WKYC Channel 3. Thank you all for joining us. Guys, free throw shooting is down. Not the percentage, but the amount of free throws being taken. The refs are holding their whistles. This is a new trend.


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[Assistant] Do we like it? Do we not like it? And is it good or bad for the calves, Jay?


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[Assistant] Against New Orleans, a game the Cavs dominated. They only took three free throws and I believe they were all in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Yeah, right. Yeah, and we saw that against the Knicks in the playoffs last year. The Knicks were a much more physical team than the Cavs and it hurt the Cavs. Obviously, this is bad for the Cavs if, if referees are holding their whistle more often because they're not a team, they don't, Jared Allen's not in the middle beating guys up, you know, so no, this is bad.


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[Assistant] I gotta say as, you know, if you like basketball, it's more fun to watch basketball with less fouls called. When you played in the schoolyard back in the day, it was always no blood, no foul.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. I wish it would, but, uh, yeaah, no, I think overall, obviously this is not great for the Cavaliers, but it might also be some sort of ebb and flow thing. But as Jason points out anyway, and you're right,


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[Assistant] That would end it. That would, it'd be over if you got kicked out of the game for flopping.


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[Assistant] I mean, it's, you know, I'm glad that they're calling more fouls on it because it's completely ridiculous. Alright, when we come back here on WKYC Channel 3 on the Ultimate Cleveland Sport Hill, the Guardians 13 days away from their opening day game, their two best-hitting prospects at trying to make


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[Assistant] Even if they don't on opening day, they might be there at some point this season. But who will be the best hitter ultimately of the two? We'll get into that next on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show on WKYC.


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[Assistant] Welcome back. It's the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show here at WKYC Channel 3. And guys, 13 days until the Cleveland Guardians play their first game of the year. It'll be in Oakland late at night, unfortunately.


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[Assistant] Uh, we're hoping that maybe the offense will be better.


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[Assistant] The offense has been lacking the last few years. The Guardians, two top-hitting prospects according to MLB.com, Chase De Lauder and Kyle Manzardo. Manzardo was acquired from the Rays last season.


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[Assistant] In a trade for Aaron Savali. De Lauder was drafted in the first round a few years back by the Guardians. Both are on the verge of getting to the big leagues. Manzardo probably a little closer but De Lauder's had a great camp.


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[Assistant] And he said some mammoth home runs. Jason, of the two, who do you think will be the better hitter in the big league?


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[Assistant] You know, I'm nervous about both of them because the reality is that the, that the Guardians have not done a very good job of developing their young hitters. I mean, most of their young hitters that were high prospects have not panned out in recent years. So I'm nervous about both. The one thing I'll say about Manzardo, which is why I'm leaning towards Manzardo,


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[Assistant] Is as Jason says, he's better at putting the bat on, on the ball. The Lauders got big power, but he hasn't hit a ton of home runs in the minors. Like it's there, he's a big guy, but he hasn't put it all together. And I know he's hit some exciting home runs in spring training, but I don't care what guys do in spring training.


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[Assistant] You ask any ballplayer, like, spring training doesn't prove anything. People get excited. I saw somebody, Tyvus sent me a text, or a group of texts.


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[Assistant] About Miles Straw's batting average in spring training. I don't care what Miles Straw's batting average is because I know he can't hit and he could have, he could hit a thousand in 40 of bats in spring training and that would not change my mind on the season he's gonna have offensively.


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[Assistant] Kyle Manzardo was developed by the race. Yep. Who have done a better job than the guardians of developing hitters. He was ready to go in the big leagues last year, but he got hurt.


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[Assistant] Uh, it doesn't have huge power, but I like the bat to ball skills better. I love that sweet left-handed swing. Uh, I, I think they both have a chance to be really good players in the big leagues and hopefully they both pan out and you've solved some power because Manzardo's power will come. I think he'll eventually be a 20 home run guy at least.


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[Assistant] Uh, and De Lauder has bigger power than that potentially. Uh, and they could be two big bats. You know, in five years they could be the two best hitters on this team. But if I had to pick, I'd go with Manzardo. I think De Lauder is much more raw than Manzardo.


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[Assistant] And she's right, we gotta get these guys in the majors. If Kyle Manzardo's ready to go, this, this games that they play, and the Guardians are not the only team to do it, but...


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[Assistant] Let's have him in the big leagues, although I assume he won't be in the big leagues when the season starts. Alright, thanks everybody for joining us today. Please, if you haven't done so already, make sure you hit the subscribe button on YouTube for the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show.


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[Assistant] What's up? We'll talk Quentin Jefferson in just a second. But first, you can say goodbye to Busted Brackets because FanDuel is letting you bet on every game of the NCAA tournament. Whether you're betting on a big upset or a one seed, it's time to go dancing on America's number one sportsbook.


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[Assistant] Same game parlay over a few NBA action. 22 leg. He took some alternate spreads and he bet on the Raptors, which that made, that's kind of when you know you may have a problem when you're betting on the Raptors. But Scott hit a 22 part parlay, uh, 14 bucks won nearly $600. It was a buck


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[Assistant] A clear shot of a drink right at him and Q had to be held back.


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[Assistant] Physical defensive line play is, guys get hurt, we saw last year alone, Miles had the shoulder injury, Mohurst tore his pec, Agbo tore his pec, guys in and out.


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[Assistant] He really hasn't missed many games in his career. He's played 90 of his last 98 career games. Which is incredible between him and Shelby Harris. Those are two of the most versatile and durable.


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[Assistant] Defensive tackles in football. He's listed at 290s, played inside and outside. He's not just an inside passer. You actually could put him on the outside in certain situations if you want. And I go back and think of how Jim Schwartz handled his defensive line rotations in Philadelphia and Tennessee.


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[Assistant] He wrote it, we saw it a little bit last year, but even a bigger extent back with Philadelphia, especially when they had eight, nine guys like Cleveland has now. Two, three plays, get out, get back in two, three plays later, stay fresh. There are so many different combinations of defensive linemen he could put out there, whether it's Miles Adair, Ogbo and Jefferson, or you want to go one stop.


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[Assistant] I can't imagine anyone's happier this morning than Jim Schwartz knowing he has all the tools in his tool belt now to create chaos and havoc with just that front four alignment.


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[Assistant] He said the Browns will at least have discussions about Hunter Renfro.


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[Assistant] I do real quick, yeaah. So we're gonna do a read. We appreciate everyone tuning in and watching today. Hit the like button, hit the subscribe button. We did a longer Quentin Jefferson breakout video this morning for Behind the Glass if you guys wanna watch. And uh, sometimes there are quotes that happen on this show that take you out of context are beautiful.


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[Assistant] And we had one that happened, I'm not even quite sure you guys picked it up, but Steve, take tag board full here. I just want to thank you. Appreciate this great quote here. You helped me change my underwear. Period. Tyvis, I just want to say thank you. That will go down in the UCSS quote board hall of fame.


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[Assistant] No, no, you're getting to it. I thought you were going to ask him a question. I said don't forget that b-bush.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I am, I mean, excited might not be the right word. Jerome Baker, I think, in a perfect world, is a better player and fits a little better next to Jordan Hicks and, uh, the other linebackers they have, J.O.K. and D'Abate and Tony Fields. But at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] We're going to, Anthony's going to start doing this on a daily basis. Who can to take these out of context quotes, put them on Twitter and do other stuff with them. Speaking of coming up later today, the Ultimate 2160 with Earl the Pearl is airing at five o'clock. He had a little titty last week. He's got QC. Little Titty.


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[Assistant] Uh, so yeaah, make sure you check out Earl on the 216 show at 5 o'clock. I'm sure they'll be talking Browns. Anytime Quincy's on, he'll get some great insight from Quincy. So make sure y'all tune in to Earl, Quincy Carey on the Ultimate 216 show at 5 o'clock today.


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[Assistant] Down nine pounds last week. That was a compliment to you, man. I don't know where that came from, the negative energy. Speaking of other moves though, the Browns made three moves yesterday.


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[Assistant] I've only heard of one of the three people they hired and or acquired.


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[Assistant] If I gave you these three names before we did a research, would you be able to pick out which one's the coach and which two are the players?


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[Assistant] Was because when I was in Texas at the time, another coach was interviewing for the main job and it went to Charlton instead of the guy that was outside of hearing his name in simply the.


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[Assistant] Ryan Canty was not hired because they hired Nick Charlton. Had never heard of him in my entire life. I have no idea what offensive philosophy he brings. The run game coordinator position. I tried to look into it. It's hard to find main highlights from 2019 and 2020 and UConn was abysmal the last two years. So I wish I had more for the fans, but I really don't know what to expect.


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[Assistant] The one thing I want to mention with him though, they hired Bill Musgrave last season. He came from Cal. He had an extensive coaching history, head coach at Cal, to come in and help with this run game. His specialty was the shotgun run game.


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[Assistant] I haven't heard if they fired him if he's still on the staff. I have to imagine if they brought this guy in, Nick Charlton, Musgrave would no longer be there.


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[Assistant] But that's the only one thing I want to draw a connection to. Musgrave was hired for this role last year, essentially. Now they've replaced Bill Musgrave with Nick Charlton. What that means, what impact did Musgrave have in 2023? I wish I knew, I don't have a good answer.


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[Assistant] Uh, guess what? I found Gunner Tackles. Did you really? I did. Yeah. Uh, in 2023, Jalen Reeves Maybin and Neville Hewitt, Maybin of the Lions, Hewitt of the Texans, led the NFL with 14 special teams tackled.


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[Assistant] He's not in the top 50. Not in the top 75, excuse me.


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[Assistant] The leader had, George Odom had 21. Yeaah. Where San Francisco tied for 73rd had 8, so a 5 difference. He's not tied for 73rd. Alright. So.


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[Assistant] Perfect. Alright, but we'll get to our next top. We actually hit all that stuff, all the stuff that came in this morning.


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[Assistant] At almost the exact time we were supposed to get out of it. So kudos to you guys for staying on track here. Alright. This, uh, this next topic was a little bit changed with the signing of Quentin Jefferson this morning.


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[Assistant] They decided to run it back essentially in year two with Jim Schwartz, swap out Taki Taki for Jordan Hicks, swap out Jordan Elliott for Quinton Jefferson, but they brought back Hearst, they brought back Harris, Zadarius. Essentially the bare bones of this defense looks very similar heading into 2024 right now as it did in 2023.


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[Assistant] We had talked about the potential of a splash signing, whether it was Christian Wilkins, Jonathan Grenard, Bryce Hoff, whoever.


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[Assistant] Or the idea that the Browns should run it back essentially defensively in 2024.


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[Assistant] And right now new customers get $200 in bonus bets. If their first $5 bet wins, that's 200 bucks to use on point spreads, money lines. You can even pick who's going to win it all. Just visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS and bet on college hoops until they cut the nets down.


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[Assistant] Bull Joe Flack was a member of the Indianapolis Colts. We found out this news just minutes after Jason Lloyd filed his initial column. And I wanted to make that very clear.


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[Assistant] Yeah, from my understand, I read an awful announcing article.


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[Assistant] On one media member, one radio personality. It was grossy, I'll just say it was grossy.


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[Assistant] This is the guaranteed money for five quarterbacks who signed presumably as quarterback twos.


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[Assistant] Uhm, this is from awful announcing, recording on what Tony Grossi said on the radio yesterday.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, I had so much fun watching this and covering this team at the end of the year. We're not supposed to do that. We were all supposed to be in mourning.


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[Assistant] And bag the season. We weren't supposed to have such fun, okay?


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[Assistant] That's the way I interpret this move. Shame on you guys for enjoying the fact that our starting quarterback, we paid 230 million, wasn't on the field. We want to win with him, not with anyone else. That's the feeling I get on this move. It's the fans fault for finally having the joy of watching a quarterback make great throws and lead the team and get popular. So that's the feeling I get. That's my fault for finally enjoying what I was seeing on the field.


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[Assistant] Uh, Daniel Espino, their highly touted pitching prospect, underwent another shoulder surgery yesterday, this time to repair an injury to the shoulder capsule and rotator cuff. No set timeline for a turn, but we at least know he's not expected to pitch in 2024.


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[Assistant] 133 and two thirds of an inning in minor league baseball bowl.


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[Assistant] We're gonna play a new game in a sec, but I just saw a tweet that blew my mind. Did you know Calvin Ridley and Amari Cooper are the same age?


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[Assistant] It does make a difference, but, it's stupid is what it is. It's stupid. It's not practice.


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[Assistant] Okay, so this is, everyone have a whiteboard? Everyone have a marker? Yep.


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[Assistant] This is a spinoff of True or False. Okay. It's called Judy or Hicks.


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[Assistant] Or a camouflage suit on the day he was drafted.


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[Assistant] Made their conference honor roll seven times. Jerry Judy or Jordan Hicks.


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[Assistant] Judy went to Alabama, Hicks went to the University of Texas.


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[Assistant] Three duties. And if, uh, we're going off this question, then, boy, you're also dumber than your own uncle. Whatever. The answer is Jordan Hicks.


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[Assistant] Next question, question number four. Who received votes for the freshman of the year in their respective conference?


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[Assistant] Only one of them received votes for freshman of the year. Was it Jerry Judy or was it Jordan Hicks?


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[Assistant] We have two answers for Jordan Hicks. Bull's going with Jerry Judy. The two of you guys are right. It was Jordan Hicks.


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[Assistant] Who wears a Star of David necklace, even though they're not Jewish?


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[Assistant] One for Judy, one for Hicks, two for Judy. The answer is Jerry Judy. He actually caught some flack for this at the NFL comp. I would ask him about it. He said, my nickname is Jew. So where I started.


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[Assistant] You have, so far has not been a successful strategy. It is not. I'm not doing it on purpose. Question number six. Who credits yoga for their ability to change direction and bend, bend their legs in unique ways?


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[Assistant] I had to dig deep for some of these. I couldn't do any football stats because it's very obvious. Uh, one for Judy, two for Hicks. The answer, Jerry Judy, big yogi.


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[Assistant] Who had a 10 foot 4 broad jump at the comp line? The other had a 10.


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[Assistant] NFL.com Scout Lance Zerline describes who as quote, plays more linear than fluid coming out of college.


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[Assistant] Maybe it's not so bad, Bull. I got Tivus and a Pickle.


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[Assistant] So if it's Judy, Tyvis wins. If it's Hicks, Jason wins. Anthony, can I get a drum roll please?


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[Assistant] Your guy is back. And nine assists, career high nine assists, not just a shooter.


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[Assistant] He played tremendous. The whole team played, I mean. It was a great game. It's one of the most impressive stats of all time. It is just the eighth time in the history of the NBA. Yeaah. The history of the NBA that a team has won a game with three or fewer free throw attempts.


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[Assistant] Really? I didn't even realize they had that few. And their first free throw attempt didn't come to the fourth quarter. They outshot the Pelicans from three. Twenty makes to four makes.


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[Assistant] You're gonna win that game. They shot 20 of 45 from three, 51% from the field.


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[Assistant] Their defense was tremendous. They put the pressure on New Orleans in the backcourt and offensively. Just the pace they were moving. I don't know if you guys noticed, but.


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[Assistant] The ball didn't sit in anyone's hands for more than two, two and a half seconds at all. Ball movement was great. They're running sets on the weak side. We talked about that yesterday, but it wasn't just Garland in those crunch situations. Let's get a little more movement. I don't know what got into him. I'm not sure if it was just Mitchell being back, but everything clicked together last night in a way we hadn't seen in about six, seven games.


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[Assistant] It's still tough. I mean, they got a gauntlet. They've got through the majority of the tougher games, but coming up they have, uh, the Rockets tomorrow night.


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[Assistant] Then the Pacers, then the Heat, then the Timberwolves, then the Heat again. Then they have a two game, nothing. Rockets are feisty. Didn't they be, uh, what's his name? Segun just got hurt. He's out. Yeah, he's out. Yeah. Okay. But then they have after two games with the Hornets, the Sixers, the Nuggets, the Suns, the Lakers, the Clippers, like they're, they're not out of this yet. They still got a tough stretch.


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[Assistant] Yeah, they're tied for second. The Knicks are three and a half games back. The Magic are four games back. And the Sixers are five and a half games back.


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[Assistant] Do you guys think, and I know it's hard to think about every win, they've won 42 games now, but is that their best one of the season?


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[Assistant] Balled last night. He had 14 points. Yeaah. Jason, I know you and I have been sitting at games before and we're looking at the bench and like...


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[Assistant] Man, they miss Tristan Thompson. Damien Jones can't really be the guy you rely on, but last night, he kinda shut me up.


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[Assistant] I do have one more question for the guys. Do you think, and the obvious answer is yes, because what we saw last night, but even at


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[Assistant] What does just getting him back on the court do for the other nine guys who play? Like just knowing they have Donovan on the court back kind of in the trenches with them.


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[Assistant] Jason, before we move on, do you think there's any chance, and we've seen it happen in the Western Conference way more than the Eastern Conference, but teams in the 2-3-4 spot


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[Assistant] I'm not saying tank, but certainly give some guys some rest to get a preferable matchup in the first round. Is there any chance that Cavs, like is there one team you circle as? Hell, if we could find a way to play team X in the first round, it's worth maybe sliding from the two to the three or the three to the four.


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[Assistant] I got one final reader to help me with this read. I'm going to bring in Earl the Pearl cause his show, the ultimate two one six show is on at five o'clock today. Earl, what can the people here later today?


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[Assistant] I'll try to look that up, but I do know for a fact, 2022 entering 2023 was the most players ever in the transfer portal, and 2023 entering 2024 now broke that record. So the last two seasons since NIL has been...


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[Assistant] I mean, we kind of got into this yesterday morning before we got on air bowling. I don't know what the answer is, but I do know from talking to enough people involved with NIL, with coaching, with the constant recruiting of players you already have on your roster. I think there has to be some sort of guideline. I'm not opposed to it being the.


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[Assistant] You could transfer once, but if you tran- but then you have to stay for a certain amount, but I want these kids to get paid as much as possible. And the scale had been way too...


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[Assistant] Wait, weighted down and favoring the coaches up until this situation, but it is purely the Wild Wild West out there. There's no guardrails. Coaches have different things they could.


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[Assistant] Uh, different boundaries they have to play within and I think at that point it's gone too far. But I want these kids to get paid as much as they can. So.


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[Assistant] I think, we're gonna try it, it may not work, it may flame out, but I like taking these out of context quotes.


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[Assistant] We'll let it pass and then we'll come back. And that means if you missed it in the moment and you just see it out of context at the end.


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[Assistant] Uh, we have one super chat though from our guy Skilly. Skilly said...


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[Assistant] We're talking, yeah, Gavin Williams, we'll go with some of the tweets. I guess Chris Antonetti spoke at, uh, 12.30, so we'll kind of go through what he said. Dissect it and get people ready for the Ultimate Guardian show, which starts on March 20th.


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[Assistant] You know, I could actually sit in this stuff all day. It's incredible. The pants, the tops, the polos. The joggers. It's just unbelievable.


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[Assistant] Because they see the potential. Sure. So I was saying if that's the case...


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[Assistant] Radio personality wise, I think I'm doing a decent job. You're doing a great job. I feel like potentially I could be really good at this, so he should pay me now. And I'm not asking, I'm not asking for nothing crazy. Just two, two, maybe three hundred dollars more of my check.


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[Assistant] Draft coming up though, maybe they'll have me do the draft again. You're on about 18 shows. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] You will see. I was probably the first person to wish you a happy birthday. No, you didn't. Last text message I received from Jay Crawford. This is false. It's on July 11th. No, no, no. I think it was to the group. Oh, okay. Yeah. It was to the group.


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[Assistant] Uh, that boy that left Ohio State to go to LSU? No I'm not. Tam Newton? No I'm not.


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[Assistant] You see this? That's it. So it's because I want it when we have four people sitting in a chair when it's actually there.


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[Assistant] Ironically, neither one of those two were on the cruise. Was Dom Taberry on the cruise? Dom did not go on the cruise this year. I'm sorry to hear that. Ryan Miller?


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[Assistant] Cancer. It's the James. Okay. Down in Columbus. That's what's up. The James Hospital, cancer research, all of that. So. Four million dollars. I think it was like four, I want to say four point four. Something like that. Wow. That's great. So it was a good time though. Six days they had the current guys on there. I think our invitation got lost in the mail, didn't it?


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[Assistant] You're not allowed to say. Alright. I wanna say it's like $10,000. No it's not.


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[Assistant] Well last year we stopped, we had six stops. We stopped at all the high end places.


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[Assistant] But the problem is, but this is the problem. I, I was talking to my wife about this. The reason that I can't get dark like that is because my, my grandmother is, is Indian. Oh really? Yeah, she's full-blood Indian, so. Okay. Well Indians have, Indians have a dark complexion. No, I don't think I'm a, my undertone is so red that I don't think I can like.


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[Assistant] Woah, woah, woah, woah, speak for yourself. Speak for yourself. I ain't bad like that. I ain't bad like that.


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[Assistant] Well, that's the thing, so, put the camera on me, cause I just had this argument with my friends, like maybe two weeks ago.


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[Assistant] I told them, you know what y'all, I'm done gambling. I'm done with it. Wow, you're finished. I'm done with the parlays. Cause I'm tired of being just one off. Just one thing. Yeah. And their response to me, which is sad that they're right on this, says tie this.


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[Assistant] They want to throw the ball. They're going out and literally going to try to get a wire receiver to help him. They're bringing in a new offensive play caller that specializes in shotgun and throwing the ball deep down the field. So I think that if anybody, he's going to have the numbers, he's going to have the support from his organization.


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb, another reason I don't think Nick Chubb will be able to get it because I'm not 100% sure when Nick Chubb will play in the season. I'm pretty sure Deshaun will be the starting quarterback week one.


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb, when you get, when you come back from those type of injuries, it might take you three to four weeks. So now you already behind in that.


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[Assistant] And then it's going to take you a minute to get revved up again. So I just think it's going to take too long for him to take off to have the numbers to win comeback player of the year. To where as Deshaun Watson coming right out of the gate, he'll already have the new weapons, he'll have the new play calling.


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[Assistant] And I think that is tailor made for him to be able to win comeback clarity.


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[Assistant] That's the only way. Cause I, it's not a lot you can really prove against Detroit to me. I mean...


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[Assistant] One of them they should have lost. I need a dominant performance. I mean, that's...


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[Assistant] Cause I'm, I'm still upset about this. I can't believe y'all lost the Chicago game and I know that y'all got the Knicks coming up on Sunday and I know y'all gonna be trying to think about that game. So for me, you'll need to handle business early so everybody's sitting out in the fourth quarter so y'all can get y'allself geared up.


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[Assistant] If this game comes down and it's close and y'all gotta grid it out, like.


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[Assistant] They did that, well they did, they didn't do that to Darius. They did that to Donovan last year. The Knicks did I think. I just watched the Knicks. And that's when Darius started actually making plays. They started getting the ball in Darius' hands.


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[Assistant] For the record, I just need to put this on record.


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[Assistant] I agree wholeheartedly with McNuggets. I know you do. Yea, I know.


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[Assistant] His coach at Auburn about him and he was saying, if he ever gets an offensive game, he'd be one of the best. So I was thinking, your coach was 23.


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[Assistant] There was so much there. Jay takes the fun out of this game. He does stories on stuff, man.


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[Assistant] Wait a minute. Steve Becker, if you're watching, please schedule me on a Monday or Friday again. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. See you in September.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't, I wouldn't add in the top three. I would have had Cam or Joe. Or Vince Young. I've got Tim Tebow.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson vs Lamar was insanely. Tremendous. That was crazy. Tremendous.


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[Assistant] So, so if that's the case, then Cardell is our world. We'd be Alabama too. Can't believe Cardell wasn't on that list. Shocking. You think? You know? Just saying.


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[Assistant] I mean, the year of the Heisman. He didn't win the Heisman over.


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[Assistant] I love you too. But you're cutting wings, you're out of pocket. You're out of pocket. Cut wings and kill me. What a day. What would you cut wings? Earl, which one would you have cut? I'm cutting pizza.


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[Assistant] Alright, well I'ma go to Calypso's and I'ma bring you in to 12 Club Extra Butter Extra Seasoning and I promise you, it'll change your mind. I'll go with you to Calypso's.


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[Assistant] I've been against it at this point. But there's like, I mean. But I don't think it's a 5% chance. And there's levels to it, right? Like, do I think he's going to go back to 2020 version? No, I think that's gone. But he could still be a really good NFL quarterback.


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[Assistant] All that's true. Okay. They did. They were in Rusty's office. Uh, we've talked about it on the show before. They sat there for 45 minutes chopping it up over film. They had an iPad between them. They were going over plays and how they would use them in the offense. That's, that's all true. Okay. And then Deshaun told him no. And then he changed his mind and told him yes when they had another zeroed in chat.


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[Assistant] I don't remember every detail now, but I wrote about this extensively when it happened and there was something about when


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[Assistant] When Carolina was out, the Browns knew they were back in and the Browns thought there was a chance where they could get back in.


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[Assistant] Uh, Carolina would not guarantee the whole thing and AB had stayed in touch with Deshawn's agent, David Muligeta, throughout the day after he was told no, after he turned down the Browns. They stayed in contact on other free agents, I mean free agents he's going on. So there was other guys they were talking about and then the Browns saw an opportunity to get back in and they took it.


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[Assistant] No, that was, I said that for last year on the, or two years ago on the suspension. Yeaah, yeaah, yeaah. When the suspension was increased to 11 games.


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[Assistant] But I also, I was driving home from New Jersey. We were in New Jersey from my wife's side of the family. There was a funeral where grandmother died. We were driving home.


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[Assistant] It was one of those, for me, like, life just changed. Like, my life just changed. In terms of all the stuff that comes with it. And really, if we're being totally honest,


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[Assistant] Oh, there were, yeaah. There were suits filed, yeaah.


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[Assistant] And when the Browns made the trade, I don't think they ever expected 11 game suspension in year one. You and I went round around. It was probably the worst show we ever did. And it started off, it was just everyone on the panel screaming at each other for 25 minutes. But the gist of that was would the Browns make the same trade?


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[Assistant] If they knew the suspension was 11 games and I said no, I don't think they would have given up as much.


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[Assistant] Had they known, but they were operating an assumption, I don't know, no one ever put a number on it, but they never thought it was gonna get that high. They never thought it was gonna get that high.


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[Assistant] I thought it would be 6 on appeal, it would be knocked down to about 4, and instead it went to 11.


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[Assistant] I am, I am a big locker room guy. I'm big on what the guys in the locker room feel, what they think, where are they. We've talked, I've talked about it numerous times, numerous times on the show. If you're in that locker room right now and you play for the Cleveland Browns, where is your faith level in your quarterback?


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[Assistant] This is such a rare injury. It's not like, it's not a normal typical


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[Assistant] They come back and they're fine, like pictures with Tommy John. You know, it's been 12 to 15 months.


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[Assistant] We just don't know. You just don't know. I think that he'll come back with the same type of physical. I still have questions about the mental. Everything that he's been through.


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[Assistant] I was a little curious and, and you know, maybe they're insuring themselves in case Deshawn's not ready for the start of the season. I think that's the most logical, right? Okay. Like did you guys have a different view on that?


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[Assistant] It's, it is, it's just a little strange that he hasn't signed it, I guess, but he hasn't been around.


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[Assistant] Golf side, not ocean side, golf side, cool golf side.


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[Assistant] No, well, I mean, the Gulf of Mexico side. Oh, I thought you were saying golf. Golf side. Golf.


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[Assistant] He takes up a lot of oxygen in every room he's in. He does? This is now two teams he's tried to force his way off of.


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[Assistant] And he's an incredible talent. Of course you'd love to have him.


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[Assistant] But the cap is real. Rousers are real. This isn't fantasy football where you just, yeah, give me that guy. Yeah, give me that guy. Yeah, give me that guy. You'd love to have a tail in this to find digs, but it comes with a lot of other stuff. And I said earlier, like I'm big on locker rooms and on chemistry in locker rooms and on.


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[Assistant] Players, and I just think that's an awfully big disruption. I don't think it's realistic.


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[Assistant] This isn't anything new. I think teams around the league probably sensed before.


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[Assistant] They don't have a lot of guys that take up a lot of oxygen that are divas, more or less.


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[Assistant] He's still like, I'll give him credit because yes, he did take up a lot of air in the room, but he wasn't a diva in the sense of like,


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[Assistant] Throwing tantrums on the field and demanding the ball and stuff that you see from a lot of other guys. He really wasn't like that.


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[Assistant] So I, I just don't think he fits here with where they're trying to build this thing and what they're trying to accomplish. I don't know. Stefan off the field really fits with that. I don't think.


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[Assistant] It's me, it's not Mike. Mike sent me a list like that long of topics. I slept like crap last night, I put the kids on the bus, I went back to bed this morning, I haven't looked at anything. I haven't looked at anything.


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[Assistant] You constantly have to be looking for talent, especially on the margins. I mean if somebody goes down in training camp, you know, rapidly.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm, I'm tend to agree with Bowl. This is not- You think Kayla will have the only one? I don't think this is a very good quarterback class at all.


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[Assistant] I got a theory, but you work for the university, so I'm gonna say it.


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[Assistant] I don't know him, uh, obviously I covered the league for a long time, but he's, uh, he can be a little rough from what I've heard.


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[Assistant] He's playing well. And that's the thing with Karras is it's hot and cold man. Like, he'll give you that and then he'll turn around and go 2 of 12. That's a fact.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't go that high, but, but he's, he's, he's a really important piece to what they do. But when he's off, he's- You just don't know what you're gonna get night to night. That's the, that's the frustrating part, but when he's cooking, man- This damn word, kiss this, you know who he is?


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[Assistant] I don't know, I don't know. Uh, this is weird, like this whole neat thing is weird, so.


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[Assistant] I mean at this point, you gotta be right for the playoffs. That's it. That's all that matters. So you think he's shut down to the playoffs? No, you, you, you don't want to roll, you don't want your first game back to be game one.


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[Assistant] But, I mean, I would err on the side of caution with this. I mean, it's what, March 18th? 19th? We got four weeks. I mean, I'd give them a good couple weeks.


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[Assistant] I mean, when we talk about the calves, what's the one thing we talk about all the time is the toughness and the lack of toughness. He will add that and then some. So, you know, I think it's insurance with


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[Assistant] I said guys have a bad year sometimes. It just happens. He says LeBron ever had a bad year?


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[Assistant] Well, I'm trying to process it. What do you think, Mike? I think it's close. I think guys have bad years in basketball. They do? Like who?


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[Assistant] Here's what I, if you, like 10 years from now, if you pull up Darius' stats, I'd say the back of the baseball card type stats and look at them.


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[Assistant] You would not look at this year and go, wow, did he really fall off? I mean, they're down, but it's not, it's not like, what happened to him?


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[Assistant] It really disjoints everything when you stop playing that way and we saw that.


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[Assistant] When LeBron was here, when he would leave, when he would take games off, the whole thing unraveled. And they're still really talented players and they're really good players in their own right. But when you get used to doing it a certain way in a certain style, which this team is now with Donovan, when you take that piece out,


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[Assistant] Again, this was a really fun, young, good team before Donovan got here that had some growing up to do for sure, but talented pieces. This is still a very talented team, but when you get used to one guy driving the engine, when you pull that out and you say, okay, go, you gotta go for five days or two weeks or whatever it is without them,


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[Assistant] It, it, it, everything looks disjointed and that's exactly where it's at right now. I heard somebody, I'm not going to say who it is.


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[Assistant] Daris is on a trajectory a few years ago to being elite.


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[Assistant] Yes. And I'm talking a couple years ago where he was on the select team and he was sort of being looked at as like of all the young up and coming point guards in the league. He was sort of viewed as that guy.


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[Assistant] And I think it's fair to say that, you know, that trajectory has changed or he's leveled off a little bit. And I don't know if it's the Donovan. I don't know what it is, but where he was viewed.


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[Assistant] When he signed that deal and where he was two, three years ago compared to where he is now, yeaah, it's different.


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[Assistant] And that's the point Mike and I were making on the podcast a few weeks ago. It was like, everybody's saying get Darius out of here, trade him. I'm like, guys, there's not a big, real big market for a point guard who's making the type of money that he is.


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[Assistant] I'm not going to put a ceiling on it because a couple years ago he was showing that type of, but again, like Darius is a true point guard, Donovan is not. So it's not an apples to apples comparison. And we've said a hundred times when your point guard is your best player on your team, it's really hard.


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[Assistant] To win championships. And everyone wants to point to Steph Curry and fine, okay. And Isaiah Thomas. And Steph had a ton around him. Two of the best of all time. Yeaah. And, but...


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[Assistant] Aside from that, like if you just look through history, if your point guard is the best player on your team, it's really hard and not impossible, but it's harder to win championships.


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[Assistant] Wasn't a hydrapic. They even released Danny a couple of times. Warrant, Parker and Janobli both not hydrapic. Manu was the second round pick. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I mean, it comes down to health with him. He's gotta be healthy, but if he's healthy, I think he's gonna have a big year. He spent the winter at driveline, added a little bit more VELO to his fastball again. I don't think he'll ever be


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[Assistant] 97-98 that he was thrown with the spider attack. I mean, he was one of the, he's...


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[Assistant] A prime example guy, if you want to look at what happened with, where his velocity dropped, it had a lot to do with the sticky stuff.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't know if he's ever going to get back to those levels, but you know, a couple ticks more makes a huge difference. So, and this is a big year for him and there's a lot riding on the, on the, on his future and future earnings. Had opportunity to sign a long-term deal with the team, turned it down years ago and


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[Assistant] Here we are. It's his contract year. And, uh, it's a big summer for him. It's a big season. I think you'll get, I don't know if you're going to get the best version of Shane, but I think it's going to be better than what we've seen in the last couple of years.


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[Assistant] Do you, do you discount his Saiyan because it was the 2020 season and he only made, uhm, 12 stars or whatever? Yes.


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[Assistant] Uh, but you know, an interesting component to the whole Beaver thing is he's, he's rep by Drew Rosenhouse, who obviously is a huge football. Right. But they don't have...


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[Assistant] Remember what you said, uh. Yeah, sorry. He's right. But, but he's rep by Rosenhouse, who obviously has a huge football client base. Shane's their biggest baseball client. So there's a lot riding on this for Shane and also for


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[Assistant] The Drew Rosenhouse Agency in terms of baseball players, he's their, he's their gold standard, so this is a big contract.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't know if the Guardians will ever hand out another long-term extension to a pitcher. Unless. Why would you? Because they all want the young guy.


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[Assistant] That's what I'm saying. There's certainly nothing to do with the pitcher. Like, I think if you're the Guardians, you're approaching this as you've got the six years of control, the seventh if you manipulate the service time, so you've got them for seven years, we're probably going to trade them.


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[Assistant] The sweet spot is with two. They like to trade guys with two years left and maximize the return. So you look at this going in and you know, okay, Gavin Williams, he's a Boris client. We weren't going to sign him anyway. We're definitely not signing him now. You got five years with Gavin Williams. You know that right now today. You've got five years.


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[Assistant] If, if Bieber didn't get hurt last year, he would have been dealt.


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[Assistant] Lindor got the last year because of COVID. But by and large, they like to trade these guys with two years left.


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[Assistant] Unless they're in first place. And even then, they could.


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[Assistant] And people railed against it in the moment, and I get it, and maybe I'm way off on this, I think Kyle Manzardo is going to be a really good Major League player.


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[Assistant] Well, the Guardians are going to get burned by the new system because Tanner Bybee, finishing second Rookie of the Year, got an extra bump in service time. So that clock speeds up.


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[Assistant] I mean, they all say that. But, but, I mean, the Indians. That's the first time I've done that in a while. The Guardians made clear to him, like,


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[Assistant] This is it. Like you gotta have a big, big offseason. And I never understood what that meant because by the time you figure out if he had a good offseason or not, it's too late.


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[Assistant] Wow. It's not a miracle cure. You're not going to cut him because he's still, he's valuable as a fourth outfielder. He's not seven million valuable, but he still has value.


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[Assistant] You gotta have somebody, you gotta have a better alternative in front of them. And if they're not going to...


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[Assistant] Well, Floreal's had a terrible camp. When I was out there, I thought, I thought they are looking at this as they need Floreal to take this job.


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[Assistant] If Brock Purdy can throw for 31, this man can throw for 34.


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[Assistant] The offense is good, there's a lot of talent. The offense they were trying to run last year, when it's executed properly, as we've seen, pretty good offense. Uhm, I'm giving it 34. Okay, let's go, next one, that was good.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm going with Darius. Oh, Kouros. Didn't he set that this year? Kouros for 32? Didn't he set that this year?


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[Assistant] I would say Darius 9-3s, although you get one of those late games, late in the year, last one or two games. Weird, weird things happen in the NBA. That's true. Jordan McCray scored like...


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[Assistant] I was going to say chase the louder maybe. I mean, they got maybe.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess you can't, you're not gonna get to 45. I guess you're not gonna get to 45. Well, but under 15. Give me the 45. I'm gonna give it to you.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm being serious because they looked at this as they tried going the free agent route with Josh Bell.


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[Assistant] Because we went the free agency route, we had to make quicker decisions on our own guys, and we can't miss on our own guys. So I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you, I'm not saying I'm buying it, I'm not saying I support it, I'm just telling you that they feel like we have to look at our own guys, which is what they did two years ago,


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[Assistant] And we have to make decisions on our own guys and we have to get that right before we go into free agency.


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[Assistant] It just, it just, it's just odd that for an organization that pinches every dollar that they do


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[Assistant] The Hedges contract, the Loriano contract, the Barlow contract. Right, that's like 20 million dollars. There are just outliers that like, you're like, well, wait a minute, like, is Scott Barlow really worth 7 million dollars if he's not closing for you? No.


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[Assistant] And the loriano contract, the straw contract, the hedges contract, there's a couple of them that you like.


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[Assistant] Maybe. 25. 25 I would, I would take the undead.


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[Assistant] I saw the scouts talking up the twins that the twins were gonna have this thing wrapped up by the all-star rake. I don't buy that either. I think, like, and we just got done hammering them, but this could easily flip again to where it was two years ago.


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[Assistant] I did. That's a big deal. He's gonna miss quite a bit of time.


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[Assistant] Well, I looked at it the other way. I don't think this, I don't think they're winning 10 playoff games. So, I mean, unless you put just some absurd 63 number, I probably would have taken Jose.


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[Assistant] If you would have bumped the calves down to... Six. Seven.


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[Assistant] Seven gets you to game seven of the conference semis. I'll give you that. I'd have done seven, not ten. Ten no way.


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[Assistant] Can we change that to straw seven home runs where Tyvis gets a workout with an NFL team? That's a hundred percent Tyvis.


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[Assistant] What if it's mile seven home runs or bull gets a workout with an NFL team?


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[Assistant] Been convicted of worse and gotten other opportunities. So it is, it is a little odd that...


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[Assistant] But it speaks to the difference. NFL, it's, can you help us win on Sunday? I don't care about anything else. Can you help us win on Sunday? And the other leagues, well at least baseball doesn't quite seem to operate that way in this instance.


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[Assistant] I mean, Domingo Hermann's back. Yeah, or all the Chapman. Chapman? I mean, Chapman was elite.


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[Assistant] Was that the Matthew McConaughey movie? Yes. That's been on Netflix for a while.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this'll be on behind the glass tonight too, but my third idea was I think the, how you meet in the middle and fans may like this, may not like this, but.


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[Assistant] You tear down the current stadium and you just rebuild a dome on the land that the current stadium is on. I mean, when you talk about the airport being right there, clearly every,


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[Assistant] Every code that needs to be passed for where the stadium currently is, you could just tear that down and rebuild a dome right there. I think that's the best way.


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[Assistant] That you can meet in the middle of getting a dome stadium without the Browns moving down from downtown Cleveland. And I know me and Jason had talked about this before. I think that.


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[Assistant] The owners, the mayor and whoever else involved are going to have to come to the table and figure out, okay, what can the city put towards this? And then how can the Haslam family invest resources, funds and jobs, et cetera, back into the city of Cleveland?


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[Assistant] The National Football League wants to juice things up while still pursuing their continued desire to improve safety on the game's most dangerous play, the kickoff.


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[Assistant] Two major rule changes at this year's annual league meetings are being considered. The first and most significant, the NFL is considering adopting the kickoff rules used by the XFL after the NFL saw kick returns on just 22% of kickoff in 2023.


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[Assistant] Under the new rule, the kicker would remain in his normal spot. The rest of the kickoff team would line up on the receiving team's 40 yard line. And the receiving team would line up 5 yards away on their 35 yard line.


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[Assistant] Nobody would be allowed to move past those lines until the ball is touched or reaches the target zone, the area from the 20 yard line to the goal line. The next proposal would also impact the kickoff.


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[Assistant] After only 5.2% of onside kicks were recovered in 2023.


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[Assistant] And just two surprise onside kicks, the competition committee is looking for some give and take.


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[Assistant] But in order to do so, the kicking team would be required to declare their intentions of an onside kick before the play.


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[Assistant] That's necessary since that other kickoff proposal has a new setup zone.


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[Assistant] As a result of these proposals, touchbacks could also change. If the ball is kicked into the end zone, the receiving team gets it at the 35 yard line. If the ball is kicked into the target zone and rolls into the end zone, the receiving team possession would start at the 20 yard line.


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[Assistant] If all this feels a little complicated, you're not alone. It isn't easy to create more action with less injuries. But if these proposals end up being passed, it's because the league's owners believe this new approach will accomplish both.


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[Assistant] Non-descript. It was low-key. I don't have any great stories. I was only there a couple of days. I'm tired.


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[Assistant] Ready to go home. It's, it has become this thing where like, there used to be like three or four hot spots where all of the executives and coaches and people would hang out.


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[Assistant] But it has, there is so much media there now that the media has flooded those places and scared them off. So, I mean, they're still...


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[Assistant] We saw, we saw Alex van Pelt at, uh, the one place. Uh, no, the High Velocity is like the, it is the High Velocity used to be the place and it still kinda is. It's the, it's the bar inside the JW Marriott, cause most executives stay at the JW Marriott and High Velocity is that restaurant slash bar.


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[Assistant] So, uh, some of the Browns people were in there. Uh, Prime 47 has become a spot now in the last few years. That's where a lot of them go because they've been flushed out of some of these other places.


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[Assistant] But it's, it's mostly just media now crawling around looking for it. It's, I, I just, I can't do it man. When you were there Ty,


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[Assistant] So, I don't want to derail everything at 1104, but what do you think of Marvin Harrison saying nope. I don't blame him. I don't blame him. I'm with you, but not only not the combine, not Ohio State.


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[Assistant] I actually didn't know that. I totally missed that because I was traveling. That's really cool. That's really cool.


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[Assistant] Here's the concern for me, the Bulls aren't a very good team, but teams


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[Assistant] With big physical bigs are going to continue to give the Cavs problems. We saw it last year with Mitchell Robinson in the next series.


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[Assistant] We've seen it with how, go back and look how Chicago's played the Cavs. First two games of series, they brought Andre Drummond off the bench. He wasn't much of a factor. He was in foul trouble in the first game. Cavs won both games by double figures. They go to the double big lineup. They bring Andre Drummond. They start Andre. He really hasn't started very many games this year, but he starts against the Cavs. Why? Well, because they struggle with this double big look.


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[Assistant] And Drummond had a pretty good game, I believe. I'm trying to recall now. It was Valentine's Day. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] And they should have lost. Kev probably should have lost that game. But they fought back and won. All credit to them for coming back and winning. And now here you see last night, again, the Bulls go to Drummond as the starter and he just demolishes them with 26 rebounds. Teams with...


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[Assistant] Big, physical bigs are give the calves problems. It's whether it's regular season, postseason, you know, I don't make too much about the regular season, but trends do matter and this is a trend.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've never under- I- I never understood the drumming move, why they brought him here in the first place. It was-


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[Assistant] When, uh, when Drummond was in his prime in Detroit, the Cavs got him off the floor in that playoff. When the year they won the championship, they ran him off the floor with all the shooting that they had. Yeaah. With Channing Frye and those guys. You can get to lineups, if you have the right personnel, you can get to lineups. That makes it very difficult to play somebody like Drummond. Uh, but I don't know if this Cavs team


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[Assistant] Remotely would have been the five. Well, Ivan's gotta shoot. Like, you've gotta shoot. If you're gonna go to that


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[Assistant] No, I agree. And the Sam Merrill thing is weird too, that he didn't play at all. Like that's, you gotta make shots when you're going against big lineups like that, you gotta make shots.


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[Assistant] I just think JB trusts the veterans and I'm not defending that because I think at some point you gotta trust the kids and I mean Sam Merrill's not a kid, he's 27 years old but he doesn't have the experience that some of these other guys have and he's gonna revert back and rely on the guys who have been there before but last night felt like an opportunity to get Merrill some run but clearly he's the 10th man. Sam's the 10th man in a 9 man rotation, 8 man rotation.


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[Assistant] I, I, I don't mean this, I don't want to make a joke about this. Yeah, we got to see what he looks like when he comes back.


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[Assistant] Okay. He, he can, he can help in those instances. Like last year they had no playable bigs in that Knicks series behind Jarrett and Evan. And this year you would hope with Tristan and Dean


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[Assistant] You've got options. I'm not saying they're all gonna play in every game.


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[Assistant] It's, it's all match-up based, it's who's hot, it's, it's, you know, when you get into a playoff series, things can change, but at least they have flexibility.


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[Assistant] And some options now that they didn't have last year. And Tristan, depending on the matchup, Tristan could be a big piece for them for sure.


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[Assistant] Jason, will you fill a minute while I find the stat? Well, you should beat up on teams. Like, you're never gonna, rarely are you gonna dominate above 500 teams. You know, you wanna try and go 500 or so against really good teams.


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[Assistant] That's not terrible. Especially, I mean, there's a couple swing games in there can go. Yeaah. So around 500. Typically...


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[Assistant] Unless you're elite, typically that's what good teams do. You go about 500 against good teams, you smoke the teams that you should beat, and that's how you get a pretty good record.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I think so. If I'm Minnesota, I'm pissed. Minnesota should be higher than that. They're really good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, and that's, that's probably, they're so young, but man, they're good. Okay, so he's gonna be good for a really long time. That's probably, I think Minnesota should be higher, but everything else, I think that's about where they should be. I don't think they're elite. I've had the Bucs above them all year. I know the Bucs have been a mess this year.


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[Assistant] They're still the Bucks. They still have Giannis and Dame. Uh, their coaches won a championship. I know a lot of people think he's overrated. I don't necessarily disagree with that.


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[Assistant] But, uh, they'll be there at the end. You need stars to win and they've got the stars. And, and I would put the Cavs a click below both those teams in the East. Divas?


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[Assistant] But neither one, I mean, Minnesota's not had a lot of supposed. What's the, what was the


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[Assistant] You're gonna put them with the, I mean the Nuggets won a championship, the Bucks won a championship, Clippers have not, but they got a ton of talent. You wanna put the Thunder with them? With those three? Yeah. Above your precious Bucks?


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you can't put Missoula in any sort of a league category.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. They have to make it to the finals. I'm not going to say they have to win it all, but they've got to get there. They've got to get to the finals, or he's out.


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[Assistant] I don't have any faith in Joe Missoula. I'm not saying JB's done anything, but that's a coin flip to me.


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[Assistant] So, uh, I mean, so yea, you're looking pacer 7, magic 8, bulls 9, hawks 10, cause you're going playing route. You're going to get the playing winner of that.


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[Assistant] Uh, I agree with you on the magic. I think Atlanta they would handle. I think Chicago would give them problems because of what we saw last night. Like, that's real. You start Andre drumming.


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[Assistant] Uh, I think he's... Actually, I don't know the answer to that. I was gonna say I think he's done.


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[Assistant] But I, I don't know. I think the Pacers are really good too. Like not really good, like elite, but it's a, it's a style problem.


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[Assistant] No, I'm not saying that at all. I would pick the Cavs to beat the Pacers, but I think the Pacers, especially with Rick Carlisle, I think they could give the Cavs a lot of problems. That's probably a six game series.


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[Assistant] I'll go back to when Ty was here. You knew right away.


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[Assistant] Ty was really good at this. Like you knew right away. And, and I just think...


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[Assistant] It's not fair to judge JB last year because the roster just wasn't what he needed. It is now. Now you can grade JB. And I think you'll know right away in the playoffs whether or not he's what he can do it or not. Cause I'll go back to the, when Ty,


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[Assistant] Uh, the year they won the championship, that series against the Pistons and some of his creative ATOs and the way that


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[Assistant] And Stan Van Gunnen, he went up against Stan and Stan was a really good coach. Yeah. I mean, he's, players don't like him, but he, he knows how to coach and the Cavs would run a certain in-bounds play.


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[Assistant] And Stan had the counter to it so Ty came up with the counter to the counter and he and Larry Drew scribbled it out on a napkin 45 minutes before the game and they used it at the end of the game. It was a deli inbounds and I think it was Kyrie in the corner and Ty was ecstatic after the game that like


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[Assistant] It worked and he got one over on Stan. Like they countered the counter to the counter. And that's what JB's gonna have to be able to do. And I think you'll know.


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[Assistant] You'll know quickly whether or not he can do it or not because I could see it right away with Ty. It's like, this guy's got it. You'll know. You'll know quickly.


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[Assistant] It will get exposed quickly. It'll get exposed very quickly.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to think which sport the coach, head coach slash manager has the biggest impact on the game. And that might be NBA.


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[Assistant] So I just think, I don't know, I don't know. NBA with...


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[Assistant] You think you know what they're going to do, but when, when you see them in game one and now you've got to film a game one and now you have to figure out how to stop what they were doing in game one and come back for game two, that's all on the head coach. So it's just in the regular season, it's not as impactful.


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[Assistant] A lot of teams don't even take the regular season seriously, but in the postseason, man, these guys matter.


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[Assistant] He's, he's bounced around. He was in Houston, he was in Memphis. Like who was he under? I think he was under, was he under Jaeger in Memphis? I'll tell you.


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[Assistant] Uh, when, when Houston fired Mikhail, he took over as the interim. I feel like in Memphis it was Dave Yeager. Yeager was the coach in Memphis.


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[Assistant] Okay, so maybe not. Cause JB just came to Cleveland from Memphis. So he would have been in Memphis later than that.


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[Assistant] His dad, yeah, his dad was a, a long time coach. He was in...


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[Assistant] Yeah, he was in Memphis after Jaeger. After Jaeger? I don't remember who the coach was in Memphis after Jaeger.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I can't believe I forgot. This is a good dude. He's a really good dude.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, I think that the Browns are probably in the right spot. I truly did stop listening for a minute because I couldn't believe the Cowboys were that high. But the Browns...


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[Assistant] You think they're on the right track, you hope they're on the right track, I think they've got a long ways to go to catch them, some teams at the top, in front of them. And we'll see if rebuilding the offense does that or not. I have my doubts, but we'll see.


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[Assistant] I think I, I don't know that I can put them in the scene. The Eagles totally unraveled last year though.


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[Assistant] They did. But the Bengals with Burrow, I don't know you can put the Browns in that category. I don't know. What?


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[Assistant] Listen, we need Deshaun to be healthy, he's gotta play well, and then we'll see. But I, I, I would not put the Browns in the same category as the Bengals. If you guys want to, by all means, go ahead. I don't think they've earned that yet.


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[Assistant] So if the Bengals are fully healthy, Burrows fully healthy, and they're fully loaded and ready to go, and the Browns are fully healthy, fully loaded, and fully ready to go, you think the Browns are going to beat the Bengals in a playoff game and go to the Super Bowl.