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[Assistant] You don't call it spades the spade, right? If some show you that it's not, it's just believe it. It's not right. It's okay. I don't think he's great. So here's the story. When you tell me you basically telling me, uh, we got to live with it. I don't have to live with nothing, right?


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[Assistant] I saw the work, right? You got a chance. Now this is for pros. They gave you a shot.


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[Assistant] Either you did or you didn't. So where are you going to find it? Where are you going to find it? I'm going to go with another direction. I'm not going to keep running to the same brick wall. I'm not right. I'm just not right this here. You got 230 million dollars invested in a dude. Yep, right.


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[Assistant] Right. You have a piece here that is very questionable at best. He's average. I think he's questionable at best. He's average, right? So we go into the market with this.


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[Assistant] Zee, Zee, Brad Sellers, Scottie Pippen. Brad Sellers. I'm looking back.


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[Assistant] So Boogie, let me ask you a question because the quail is on here with us, right?


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[Assistant] And he thinks J.O.K. is washed. He thinks it's a waste of effort here. So do you think that with the addition of Siaki here on the front line, that unlocks J.O.K.'s ability?


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[Assistant] Cause he, uh, the Quillen think that he has the skill set, the natural skill set to be a linebacker.


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[Assistant] We just looking for somebody to make a play. How about that? I'll do that, right? Let's start there, right? We're gonna get this boy a whole, a whole training camp, right?


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[Assistant] OTAs, training camp, give him every tool he needs to be effective, right? Because we need him effective under that center. That center. We do.


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[Assistant] Who's the third running back? I don't care. The brother last place. Stop being married to things. Stop it. I want to do it. You're infuriating me. I want to do it.


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[Assistant] Let me just say this, let me just say this, and Boogie may be right, right, this may how it shake out. When you're in a top tier organization, they don't care about that. Either you can or you can't, right? Otherwise, you're making excuses to people.


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[Assistant] No, we're not talking about 53 May and Ross together that can help me, right? We have pieces that we could even play.


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[Assistant] Say we kept Jakim Grant, right? Right. All right. You're keeping David Bell, right? You're gonna keep good one, right? Okay. You got Cooper, DPJ, right? That's fine.


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[Assistant] You see what I'm saying? That's why you keep Grant ain't making it. Somebody here, somebody got to give here, right? Now your punt return game was awful, right? It been awful for years, right?


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[Assistant] How many times you gotta go look at the Chevy Cruze to find out it's a Chevy Cruze?


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[Assistant] Literally, that's what's gonna come down. Now, if J'Keem Grant, cause they had hyped him so much for these pump returns, right? Then he tore his Achilles.


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[Assistant] Tell me about, I'm glad you said that. The pathways, USFL to the NFL, do you guys feel like they give you a legitimate shot for a clear pathway?


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[Assistant] Do you, do you find more scouts coming down to the USFL now?


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[Assistant] No, I say, whoops wrong one. I say he here. I say he here.


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[Assistant] You're a VOC. You know what that is? What's that? Victim of circumstance.


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[Assistant] That is a marking point in this league always has been, right? So that's not to be undermined. Regular season went well.


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[Assistant] We won't sit here today and tell you the postseason went well. It did not go well, right?


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[Assistant] And it was, it far underachieved what I think everybody was trying to.


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[Assistant] To, uh, get their head around. They thought we had a chance only to find out we didn't really have a chance.


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[Assistant] What it should do in the process and pecking order of where the cavaliers are is this is a part of the piece of trying to get better. The only problem was that it was on front street and everybody saw it.


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[Assistant] So we're missing some pieces here and there's no longer a way that you cannot address this. It has to be addressed.


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[Assistant] And then I was telling somebody in the gym last night, Gee, and you know, I heard you on the radio on Saturday, right?


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[Assistant] But they're not gonna address it right here in front of everyone right now. We'll let everybody get out of here and figure out what we, cause we have to get better.


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[Assistant] Did the Cavaliers improve from the year before? They definitely did, right?


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[Assistant] But they wasn't ready for prime time with the others, right? Because there were some things missing and everybody saw it, right? Because, and I think the young players, and I won't just scoot off on young players.


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[Assistant] There's a difference between regular season and the playoffs. There's a major difference between night and day.


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[Assistant] Right? And if you've been in that league, you will know it. You will learn it. And it's the only way you can get it in your head is you have to learn it. Say lesson taught. Because everybody walked out of that gym on that last day, they should be in a gym within another week.


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[Assistant] But there's some, there's some self-reflection here. Absolutely. Because what, what they did not see is this is what you did not see. And Jay, you tell me if I'm mistaken. The last day.


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[Assistant] Everybody was waiting for somebody to say get ye behind me. And nobody did that. But if you turned on Philly.


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[Assistant] Hard did it last night. You turn on Miami. Jimmy Butler was there like you get ye behind me.


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[Assistant] You get to go on state. Steph Curry was like what? You get ye behind me.


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[Assistant] All right. I said, so there is that learning curve that has to occur. So that was mentioned. I'm not, this is not, we ain't moving on from that.


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[Assistant] But what we have to do, if you do not have, that's the thing we have to check for. Is that embedded in this team?


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[Assistant] And if it's not, you have to go out and get a couple people that understand what that means.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure that he had a chance to get to the Eastern Conference final, right? The goal was to try to get to the second round, right? Because all those people that we just named,


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[Assistant] Here, there's lessons learned. And guess what? Those that learn the lessons, they improve. Magic Johnson, remember when we were going to run, get ready to run Magic Johnson out of LA? He had to learn a lesson.


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[Assistant] I'm not sure that people in Utah have ever held anybody accountable for anything that went sour out there. Even Malone and Stockton when they didn't deliver, right? This is here. You gotta go back.


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[Assistant] There's some self-reflection here because the stage was set for Donovan. I'm in New York. I'm going home. This is about to be Showtime up in here. And from all appearances that did not occur. So now that in the ethos out here.


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[Assistant] People are thinking that you recoiled from the event. You recoiled from the atmosphere. You didn't deliver. You didn't show up. So now you got to battle back against that now because people now when you look at them, gee, what kind of look they give you on the street.


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[Assistant] Here, let me, let me, let me, let me. I've been saying this to you guys early, early this year. It's driving me nuts, right? He's not that.


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[Assistant] He's a guy that's 15 in. That's a guy, that's who he is, right? Jason, he can't do what I did. He can't bring it on the bounce.


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[Assistant] You look at it. Laurie Markman's game. His game can tell you that the way he plays. He could do that. It was you say it's not in that he had his bag of tricks was a little bit different.


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[Assistant] You got to be a student of this game. You can see it here.


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[Assistant] Can people get better? Yes, but there's certain inherent traits that you need to be able to do certain things, right? I ain't going down there fooling around with Shaq man, but I ain't gonna be able to do that.


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[Assistant] Right? But Shaq ain't gonna step out here. I can cross you up on his bounce, right?


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[Assistant] It's a deer. He's not built like that. When you look at the way he plays it straight up and down. He's a linear player, but no, I just said linear.


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[Assistant] That's how he got a rooted number of that goal because he couldn't get down. You have to be low man wins here.


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[Assistant] I think, I think he can gain 20 pounds. 20 pounds is one thing. It's not just the weight. It's leverage here. It's how you attack. Charles Oakley couldn't jump two foot off the ground.


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[Assistant] But he gets you up under that goal and gets you out the way and you want to go get the ball from him, right?


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[Assistant] So it ain't about your athletic ability all the time. It's how


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[Assistant] This is, this is what we're talking about now because you thought I had something different.


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[Assistant] When I saw that playoff, it like, well, maybe I don't have what I thought I have here.


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[Assistant] What if I, what if I positioned your, uh, Evan Mobley?


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[Assistant] With a power dude that was inside, right? To clean up the mess. That gives Evan a chance to come in and do his thing, right?


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[Assistant] The spacing still would be bad though. No, no, but you gotta have somebody housing that thing down low. You have to, somebody can clear it out. So you, but...


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[Assistant] So I'm not sure that you'll be able to do that with those two, right? So now you looking at scrapheat people.


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[Assistant] Boogie Cousins, my man in Chicago that was here once before. This is the kind of people you're looking at now, right? You're going to need a big root, a guy that can root it out inside to give Evan Mobley the room to operate.


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[Assistant] Who's the center in New York? Uh, Robinson. So you saying somebody like that? So Robinson, you see Robinson, Robinson, his whole thing was what? He cleaned out the house underneath, right? It wasn't like he was killing you.


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[Assistant] No, he negated, he negated all their assets, right? Because he was able to do what? Get you up out of there.


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[Assistant] Why? Because what, what does, what does Damien Lillard?


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[Assistant] No, no, no. What if David Lillard showed you that was missing in that series?


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[Assistant] I don't think I, I'm not, I'm not moved by the fact that you say little guards, right? I mean, little guards have won this league before.


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[Assistant] Uh, what's his name? N-Nirk, uh, N-Nirkage. N-Nirkage. Man, Nirkage alright. I mean, he ain't no showstopper. He's not b- Nirkage isn't better than Mobley?


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[Assistant] Nah, I'll take, I'll take Evan Mobley over in our pitch. I would. Cause the long, the long.


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[Assistant] No, no, you have to take him and appear him with somebody, right? The two pair down there to me. I'm not sure that's going to help you going forward because


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[Assistant] The things that are needed in the regular season are one thing. It worked well, right? Because every day of the day I'm going to Philly. I'm going to Atlanta. I don't have time to prepare for you. I think you had you had a tippadoe.


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[Assistant] Everything is on the table. You have to assess. There's a reality in this business. You have to assess where you are. You can't drink your own Kool-Aid here.


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[Assistant] Or do I don't and if I don't have it.


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[Assistant] Just put it in that little pocket. Okay, I got you. Wow.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's go to the final take too. I'm gonna go back to the topic at hand today.


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[Assistant] You did, you made a step forward, took some steps back in the last series.


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[Assistant] The question now is what would you do between the end of the playoff run and the start of the season next year to put yourself in a better position? Right, now I know all the, the, the.


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[Assistant] Response from the Cavaliers has been status quo, leave it the same. That's the response you're going to get. I don't care if you're in Chicago, LA. That's all they're going to tell you, right? The proof will be in the pudding. Relax.


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[Assistant] We got some adjustments to make. I know that they know that.


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[Assistant] I'm expecting that to happen, right? Just because the nature of this business as I know it.


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[Assistant] 51 wins in a season brings him back again. Relax. Long run. Long run. That's what we're doing here. Long run. Stop it. Now I can go back to the gym and work out in peace.


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[Assistant] And Hope Hicks was notified by the media that they had Donald Trump having a conversation with Billy Bush, uh, that said a number of incendiary things, and they were going to publish the transcript.


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[Assistant] Reince Priebus basically said you need to get out of the race. And Donald Trump said no.


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[Assistant] He said, I'm not getting out of the race. Not only am I not getting out of the race, I'm gonna go and run, I'm gonna win.


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[Assistant] Really wasn't in my opinion until the U.S. Senate voted for acquittal on the two impeachment charges.


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[Assistant] Giving a run and a half at the Red Sox, Corey Kluber, former friend of the great city of Cleveland on the mound for the Red Sox, but Bull is going with the Blue Jays. And with that, Jay, it is time to turn our attention to the NFL draft. And when we're talking Browns and their draft picks, we are talking.


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[Assistant] So I have a good friend of mine who I worked with back in Tennessee, who is now the sports director at a TV station in Knoxville. So I called him right after the Tillman pick and just want to add a tiny bit of context to what he told me as someone who's known Cedric for the last four years, watched him and kind of saw him develop. That's the kind of insight we're looking for. So he was injured this year.


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[Assistant] He was a second-team All-SEC guy. He was their number one option in the pass game in Hypal's first season. And you gotta remember, Tennessee was pretty terrible under Jeremy Pruitt his first three years at Tennessee. They bring in a new coach, Josh Hypal, completely opens that offense playing with Hendon Hooker. He was a second-team All-SEC receiver as a junior over a thousand yards, 12 touchdowns. And he said the one thing that has been consistent in Tillman's career


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[Assistant] From watching him in practice, games, warmups, you know, he's on the field, field level, he's up close and personal. Right.


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[Assistant] This dude's a basketball player who plays football. And as Jason alluded to at Jump Balls, he does a really, really good job at high pointing.


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[Assistant] He goes by Apu by the way. No one calls him Siaki. Apu? Apu. I learned that. I also have a friend who works in Waco and covered him. Oh great. I'll give you the insight on him at the end, but he goes by Apu.


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[Assistant] My alma mater! I went there! Did you really?


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[Assistant] Absolutely. We're gonna skip DeJuan Jones on the day three stuff. We're gonna end our draft coverage with DeJuan Jones. So when you see a skip that we have not forgotten DeJuan Jones, we will get to him as it relates to Jay Willis. Cause that's an interesting pick. We will get to that, I promise. Let's start with Isaiah McGuire, who was the first day three pick. We'll run through the rest of them and then we will end with DeJuan Jones.


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[Assistant] Yes, I gotta read real quick, then we're gonna talk about Dewan Jones and where he fits in on this offensive line, especially some other moves on the O-line that Browns have made. But, it's a great time to remind the good people out in the world that the USFL is back, professional football is going on.


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[Assistant] He's our guy Boogie. Yea yea yea. And uh, with that.


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[Assistant] Let's talk about Dewan Jones, Jed Wills, Jack Conklin, and the Browns tackle situation.


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[Assistant] Oh wait real quick, G real quick before we move on.


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[Assistant] In terms of the Jed Wills discussion, Jason alluded to him being here long-term at left tackle. Do you two, G and J, do you guys think Jed Wills is the long-term tackle or is Dewan Jones a guy who you think eventually


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[Assistant] He moves into that spot if he develops as, uh, as he can.


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[Assistant] Alright, uh, we have a read before we do this. We do. It is officially noon, and you know what that means. It is the lunch hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, and as always, the lunch hour of UCSS is sponsored by Colleague Racing, the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio. And with that, NFL Draft expert Kyle Krabs from Lockdown NFL Draft is joining us. What's up, Kyle? Busy weekend? Get a thing going?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Bull is, yeaah, he's open on everything. Jason, we've laughed at him before, we'll laugh again once we go for the next topic. But, real quick, Call of Gracing, the official NASCAR sponsor of Northeast Ohio also sponsors the lunch hour of UCSS. We can't let Jason go for this segment because this segment is literally built around something he said last week.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well that'll do it. That'll definitely do it. So last Thursday, the morning after the Cavs were eliminated from the playoffs, Jason wrote an article on the Athletic and then came on the show and we discussed Donovan Mitchell's future in Cleveland. We're gonna play the clip in one sec.


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[Assistant] And then react to it, but this went viral over the weekend. It was aggregated by a couple of the big NBA social media accounts. Uh, we're going to play the clip. We'll show you the tweet and then J G Jason wall react. Here's a clip from last Thursday.


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[Assistant] So then that got aggregated. This was the first one, NBA Central, which has 3 million followers on Twitter, got over 10 million impressions, which doesn't help us get paid, but you know, good exposure for us. The quote that they took from that, from everyone I've talked to, he wants to go to New York by our guy, Jason Lloyd. Uh, it's been 72 hours since then, Jason. There's no choice.


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[Assistant] More than half the time. Jason, what do you write? 15% of the stuff you know? 20%?


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[Assistant] So with that, with that all being said real quick, just to put a wrap on this, before we talk, Kevin Love for two minutes. Knowing what you know, what Jason's reported, what we all think, what we've all heard, do you think Donovan Mitchell ends up playing his final two years on his current contract in Cleveland?


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[Assistant] I was thinking of that real quick, G, and I know we're on the series and we gotta get to Guardians of the Sex, we have to end with PCC and some internet comments, but Kevin Love played a big role yesterday as the Heat 1.


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[Assistant] The only time we'll talk about Kevin Love unless he scores 20 plus points in a series, I promise you, but how much did it hurt to watch him do the little things that Cleveland didn't have against the Knicks now in round two playing the same team?


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[Assistant] Yeah, two things real quick. One, there's no Call of Grace support today because the race was apparently delayed, so we'll have that tomorrow. They're racing today. We love our friends over at Call of, and we're gonna read some internet comments on the draft from our YouTube community page.


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[Assistant] If you want full benefit packages, paid time off, and signing bonuses, you can apply online at precast.com slash career to learn more. So over the weekend, we posted on our community tab on YouTube, every pick.


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[Assistant] Some stats, a little analysis on them. I'm gonna read a comment or two on, uh, five or six of these real quick, we'll go through.


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[Assistant] The fact that no one can agree on anything. Let's just put it that. Good pick, bad pick, no one knows. The first one is on Cedric Tillman. This one comes from Kelly Bale.


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[Assistant] Look at those Tillman numbers, dot, dot, dot. He had those in only five starts. Future stud in all capitals. And right under that is Mikey McCray. Terrible pick. We have enough bad and mediocre receivers like Schwartz and Bell at best. He's done it in People's Jones and DPJ. Not even that good.


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[Assistant] Ian, I'm all for more defensive line depth. Can't wait to go to Bleacher Report and see, erm, still no linebackers. I've never seen erm in writing. Erm, still no linebackers on the Browns page. Chad Fraser says, dude, no linebackers, we need linebackers, linebackers, linebackers, linebackers. And then Vixformer44 says,


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[Assistant] We may have the worst linebacker in NFL history, but it's a good edge rusher pick. So they all agree on that. And then we'll get to the quarterback. This is from, uh, Dorian Thompson Robinson. He was their fifth round pick. Uh, let me read a couple here. The real.


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[Assistant] RMP. Terrible pick. Why are you drafting a quarterback when there's still other needs on the team? And we also had only one Zay saying, how the hell did he fall this far? DTR is a stud. Great pick. Could be the backup for five, six, seven years. I love it.


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[Assistant] So essentially, the conclusion of this little project is... Everywhere. Who knows?


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[Assistant] Who knows, and real quick, I skipped the one on, uh, Sayaki Ika, let me, let me pull up his real quick, we got 20 comments on that. Uh...


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[Assistant] Danny's show says, dude is just flat out not good, wears down very easily. So, at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] I think this shows what we all knew. That nobody knows anything. These dudes might be great, these dudes might be terrible, and we're not gonna see until they actually step on the field. So, just like us, it turns out that our YouTube commenters


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[Assistant] We're gonna do that later this week. We're gonna grade Andrew Berry's first draft class later this week because it takes three years. We'll see you in overtime! Peace!


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[Assistant] No. You don't even know what I was gonna say. We're not gonna talk about it. Why not? Because we're not there, California. I've already had anti-war protests. Me too. Guys, we're not in this war! Are you sure? Yes! Has that ever happened before? No, I don't think so. We are a comedy page.


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[Assistant] You all look sad. You have no idea what's going on, do you? Mardi Gros? No. Is Ash Wednesday now, Shaft? Then... no. See? At the very least we can like, teach people about why it's happening. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Nothing else bad happened here in 1991. The album was the, uh, start of a riot. I don't get what you're trying to tell me.


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[Assistant] Well, they'd done a lot of stuff, but they could never attack or invade because of the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 and the UN Charter signed in 1945. I thought you said this started in the 90s. I lied. Of course you did. Shut up. They both basically say that Russia can't use force against Ukraine unless it's in self-defense. So did Ukraine attack first? No.


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[Assistant] I'm so glad that we all have little stories we can compare this to to make it easy to understand for the kids. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] That's what we're doing. Moving on. Putin claims he felt threatened by a modern Ukraine and is invading to, uh, denazify Ukraine. Wait a second. We don't like Nazis. Why is that bad? Dude, the president of Ukraine is Jewish. Oh.


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[Assistant] As they say on Sesame Street, one of these things is not like the other. He's just using lies and propaganda to justify his invasion. Has he used the phrase Manifest Destiny yet or no? I don't know why I agree to do this. What are you doing? Sanctions. We're going after their economy. And we're also accepting refugees that are trying to flee. The rest of us can help too if we have the means. Just searching how to help Ukraine is a great start. Thanks for all the info, I guess.


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[Assistant] I'm sadder now. Yeah, well, this is how I feel all the time. Really?


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[Assistant] And uh, my A's bet, I officially cracked them up. Up a hundred dollars. You're up a hundred? Up a hundred. What are you betting with that?


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[Assistant] And I said yeah, let's bring it up. Okay. Thomas had the, you know, he won the race to get in the building today. Mike. Oh, I see. Mike, I apologize. I didn't know you were in the hallway or in the parking lot.


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[Assistant] This is not a shot at Mitchell, but this is a legacy game from tonight. Let me lay out my reasoning for you guys to disagree if you want, but.


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[Assistant] But game seven, when it mattered most, he had by far his lowest scoring output and by far his lowest efficient sheet.


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[Assistant] The next season, 2021-2022 season, they crushed Memphis, they lose game one when he doesn't play, they win the next four. However, in the second round against the Clippers, Mitchell once again, phenomenal in games one and two.


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[Assistant] In games five and six, which they both lost and were eliminated from the series, Mitchell once again, 21 points on six of 19 shooting and he had 39 points in the closeout game, but was 12 of 37 from the floor. Massive efficient or lack of efficiency, massive numbers. And then last year against Dallas.


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[Assistant] In a game 5 loss, 9 points, 4, 15 from the floor, game 6, 9 of 17 from the floor, 23 points, they lose by 2, all of 8 from 3.


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[Assistant] Since then, in the most important playoff games, he has not shown up to the same level he has in some of these other game ones, game twos. And after a dud in New York, back to back duds in New York, coming home to Cleveland, in front of this home crowd, I do think he needs to establish himself back to that dominant superstar level we know he can play at.


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[Assistant] Yeah, real quick. We're gonna go over two seven round mock drafts. From ESPN and Ryan, uh, ESPN's Matt Miller and CBS is Ryan Wilson. Don't think yet, Steve. And we're just gonna look at who they draft or predict to bronze the draft a day out. We're gonna go through these one pick at a time. Just tell me if you ever heard of these guys. Honestly, Mike, anything to make up names like that.


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[Assistant] I thought about that. I thought about adding some completely made up names, but for the fans out there, I do want to give them the reality. And the one thing we do know about both these guys, we had Ryan Wilson on, Matt Miller was at Bleacher Report, now he's at ESPN, they both eat a ton of built bars, and that's why they are the two top-rated NFL draft analysts in the books. They use promo code


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[Assistant] Locked on 15 at built.com for 15% off. We love Bilt Bars. Matt Miller and Ryan Wilson with an asterisk. Love Bilt Bars. Yes. If you don't, check them out. I will start with Matt Miller. This is from ESPN. His full seven round mock draft.


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[Assistant] Zach Pickens, a defensive tackle out of South Carolina is who he has the Browns taking with their first pick. You guys ever heard of this guy?


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[Assistant] Let's go over the second half of Miller's Mod Draft, then we'll get to Wilson's. In the 140th pick, still the fourth round, he is the brown staking JL Skinner, a safety item.


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[Assistant] Real quick, we're going to talk guardians, but before we do that, I want to remind everybody that the USFL is back. The Browns may not be playing until August, September, but there is pro football in Canton. Check them out at usfl.com. Tickets on sale. They're cheap, family fun for everybody. Great seats start at just 10 bucks. Check them out, usfl.com. Go see my man boogie.


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[Assistant] Hold on, hold on, hold on. 29th is actually second fewest. So it's the second fewest.


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[Assistant] But when you look at their lineup in totality, not a single player outside of Miles Straw, who's been in a massive slump the last week and a half. It's performed to the expectations that we as a panel


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[Assistant] He bet on basketball within the facility, but there are strict NFL rules and they go through it. And this is what I heard on a podcast from David Schrager who works for NFL Network. Before the season started, even last year, he was a rookie.


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[Assistant] of Northeast Ohio. We have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. We're going to run through these, Mike. You ready? Yes.


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[Assistant] Number two. Next question is from Diver Bob 33. He says, Mike, what do the Buckeyes need to do to start beating up on that team from up north again? Oh my God. Two losses in a row.


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[Assistant] This from PMCB, Mike, what is your single favorite game you played as a Buckeye?


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[Assistant] We do have one last real real quick one, uh, this is from Phil Bowman. He says, I know NIL deals weren't around when you were in college, Mike, but what'd you do to make money while you were a Buckeye? That's a great question. Hey, hold on.


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[Assistant] Mike Doss career tackles or career high tackle single game 16.


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[Assistant] Tyvis Powell, career high tackles in a single game according to pro football reference, college 13.


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[Assistant] But this is the first confirmation hearing for a Supreme Court justice I've seen, basically, according to mob rule.


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[Assistant] So you're using every technique and every tool at your disposal. And we've never seen that before.


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[Assistant] It's the first example of the politics of destruction of the modern era.


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[Assistant] McConnell understands implication and consequence better than any United States Senator.


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[Assistant] When you put in a judge, you're playing for the next generation.


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[Assistant] Up to Robert Bork, there was a sense of civility to this, that you could disagree without destroying.


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[Assistant] Robert Bohr changed that and Clarence Thomas confirmed it.


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[Assistant] Our friends in the United States Senate on both sides created that environment.


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[Assistant] Is that we are now hopelessly divided on the last thing that used to unite us, which is our judicial system. Now there's nothing that pulls us together. Nothing.


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[Assistant] The, uh, Olin Foundation in particular, the Bradley Foundation, uhm, there's just a handful, this cluster of far right,


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[Assistant] Foundations with tons of old money in them. And they start to, uhm, nurture the Federalist Society.


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[Assistant] She stood between Clarence Thomas and the Supreme Court. They had to destroy her in order to get him confirmed.


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[Assistant] If what she was saying was true, he had lied under oath.


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[Assistant] The numbers are enormous, the money is enormous, and every important conservative jurist is a member. All the conservative members of the Supreme Court and the rest of the courts on down through America.


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[Assistant] Word of her leaks out without her name at first, and then when the news breaks, just like with Anita Hill, her name is leaked.


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[Assistant] I think he was furious. You know this was the torpedo that he dreaded.


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[Assistant] It has become this completely politicized drama. He took the, the...


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[Assistant] Allegations away from Christine Blasey Ford and turned it into a huge fight between, uh, Democrats and Republicans. He's trying to rally all the Republicans to his side.


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[Assistant] All America had its television sets tuned to the U.S. Senate.


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[Assistant] Nothing like what happened today has ever happened before. Washington DC. A city disgusted by the gutter politics played out on Capitol Hill.


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[Assistant] Probably about two days, so tomorrow I'll be good, like uhm.


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[Assistant] My hand instead was hurting a little yesterday, but it's feeling a little better. But then you came and shook my hand with that firm grip. Yeah, I'm sorry. So I might be out a couple more days. I'm going to blame Jay. So if the trainer asks why you're out two days, I blame Jay.


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[Assistant] You brought up last year, but I feel like that's what they thought Donovan Mitchell was going to be when they traded for him this year to get them over that hump so they didn't have to go through those growing pains and it's a star driven league and he's not having


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[Assistant] The best series, so I feel like it's a rippling effect for the whole team and things like that. So I feel like they're struggling, but we need to see that spider Donovan Mitchell, that Utah Donovan Mitchell. We just haven't seen that.


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[Assistant] My first time on a talk show, I'm not going to be up here calling for a coach's job. That will not be on my resume. Especially out here in Cleveland where I have to lay my head, so. You're a wise man. Yeaah, I'm going to say uhm, he deserves one more year. I'll say uhm, there were injuries. The backcourt didn't play together as much and uhm,


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[Assistant] They need to fix the space and then fix the bench, but that's a personnel problem. That's not a coach problem. You let the coach go and bring in a new coach, you still have the same roster. Why wouldn't the same problem still be here?


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[Assistant] I believe, I believe so. I feel like, but you have to address that in free agency because this series is probably over. They're gonna go have to find somebody on the bench that can get him some more three-point shooting because they're shooting terribly. You have the two bigs that's inside clog in the middle. That's why I believe Kevin Love still should have been on the team. Even if he didn't give you much, he gave you spacing.


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[Assistant] That would allow Donovan Mitchell and Garland to drive to the basket. So I feel like them letting him go and getting nothing in return was a mishaps on personnel wise. So you can't really blame the coach for things like that. So I'm hoping they can address that in off season.


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[Assistant] Jonathan Mitchell. That's the only thing you can bank on at this point, hopefully.


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[Assistant] Play off games and I'll get them to their second win and then just hope they have some fight left in them.


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[Assistant] You guys talked about switching the coaching staffs, but you said defense wasn't the problem. We all agree that defense isn't the problem in TIBS. It's a defensive minded coach. Yeah. And you said if you switch teams, I mean switch coaches, I don't know if you would get different results because it's not the defense. It's still not going to have shooting.


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[Assistant] Still gonna have a batman. Still gonna have, uhm, bat spacing. So the mentality of the Cavs may change because he's gonna install toughness and a defensive mindset, but the offensive problem still will be here whether you have bigger staff or our tips.


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[Assistant] Oboe might be the closest to get there, but 10 sacks is tough. 10 sacks is 10 sacks, like no matter how you look at it.


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[Assistant] Everybody going into the year started like, if I can just get double-digit sacks. So that's already everybody's benchmark. Yeah. Intense sacks is tough and looking at this, you know, uhm, Miles Garrett is amazing. He already puts pressure on those guys, but he takes on, he gets all the, uhm, all the eyes.


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[Assistant] Interceptions for me as well. Yeaah. We always say pass rush and coverage works together.


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[Assistant] In a sense, so if you get more pressure on the quarterback, it makes the quarterback have to speed up. He may throw bad passes, giving the DBs more chances to get interceptions. And if the DBs are back there covering their tails off,


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[Assistant] That, uhm, makes the quarterback have to hold and pat the ball a couple extra seconds. That allows the defensive line to get there. So we'll be able to see very early where this defense is going to stand and rank amongst the rest of the NFL.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, it is so tough to get sacks. You throw on all these moves, you're working on them in the off season, you know, we like to call ourselves dancing bears, you know, we doing a little dance and we finally beat the offensive linemen and the ball is gone.


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[Assistant] Damn, I wasted that move. You're out of breath, you're trying to figure out what's going on, cause you know you can't throw the same move again, cause those guys are pros too. But uhm, then you go back and watch it on the film and you realize that, dang he was, uh oh.


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[Assistant] Well first, I'll start off by saying it's an offensive game now in both leagues. You know, people want to see points that brings in ratings, that brings excitement. So they want to protect their biggest investment, which is quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] I don't know what they expect the defensive lineman to do. You know, mid-tackle to stop his body weight, turn to the side. What about protecting the defensive lineman? Why is it that he won't get hurt trying to protect the quarterback when we're playing. Trying to pull up. Yea, when we're playing football. And I've seen guys.


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[Assistant] Try to pull up and not hit a quarterback. He breaks the tackle, then throws a long pass and things like that. So uhm, it's tough as a defensive lineman, but.


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[Assistant] That's the game we play now, so we have to adjust. In the USFL, it's a little lax.


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[Assistant] Cause the quarterbacks aren't getting paid, what those guys are getting paid. So, so. So they're not treated as such a commodity. You get one step in the NFL, we probably get like two in the USFL, but the quarterbacks get hit, they still turning around looking to the ref and things, asking for calls. But you can see a little bit of a difference and I really feel like it's cause of the contracts and the money.


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[Assistant] The quarterbacks in the NFL are the most important position in any sport, but they drive the NFL, so they want to protect their investment, which makes sense. Sure. But show some love to the big guys. No kidding. How they expect us to stop our fall and things like that. You barely touch them. You have bad breath, it's a flag, so we gotta fix it. It really is. I don't get it.


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[Assistant] Cause you don't want to see games decided by the ref throwing a ref and a passer or drives extended because of bogus flags. So then you have another problem. Then your people, the fans are mad at the officials and fans are mad at the league. So I don't know how they're going to fix it. I guess they'll just going to stay with how it is, you know, protecting the quarterbacks and just tell the defense that they have to figure it out.


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[Assistant] In the sense of a Wired 9, you have to have a dog out there on the edge, which they do, and Mouse Garrett. In a sense, that's just giving him more space to win his, his one-on-ones. And create more space for the interior guys to get on edges and things like that.


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[Assistant] You spoke about them not bringing pressure and things like that last year.


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[Assistant] That's the biggest testament you can have and the biggest faith and confidence you can show on your D-line is saying look.


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[Assistant] We're going to drop, um, seven back in coverage and we trust and believe that you four will get pressure. But when that doesn't happen and the quarterback's just sitting there holding the ball, he's able to just pick the defense apart. And that's what you've seen with the Browns last year and there weren't no adjustments and things like that. But the wide nine.


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[Assistant] I believe that's just for those edge guys to have more space and to work, be able to take inside moves and work outside as well. And we have a guy like Miles Garrett, that's the best.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, yeaah, no, because uhm, on the inside,


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[Assistant] You can't get out of your rush lanes and things like that. You might think you have more space than you actually do. You have a wide nine rushing, then your three technique is rushing wide. Now the gap's here. If you're playing a guy like Lamar Jackson, that'll take off.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you're done. So the wide nine has pros and cons. You know, you have to have a good linebacker behind them as well because now they have a couple of gaps to cover as opposed to just one when you're in a 4-3 scheme.


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[Assistant] I really haven't heard anything about him, but I don't want to take anything away not saying he's a good coach and everything, but that personnel, that D-line was...


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[Assistant] You could have put me to go coach them and they would have, I would have had a DC job after coaching them last year. So I really haven't heard much about him, but it worked in Philly. I know the Cleveland fan base is hoping that he can come out here and duplicate that success. I know you have a, a franchise piece of Miles Garrett and then you have Larry. So hopefully you can find, I believe is Larry still on the team?


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[Assistant] So he's gone, cause I used to like him, he was a good.


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[Assistant] Counter piece with Myles Garrett that played in the inside. Right. So you guys gotta find that opposite guy, Myles Garrett, that can duplicate the pressure. And I think things will be okay.


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[Assistant] Man, he's a freak of nature, man. Just the things I've seen that guy do is, is just crazy. And I'm sure you guys have seen his workout videos. He's moving faster than DBs. He's doing ladder drills and back drills. So I remember our coach would say, there's Aaron Donovan, there's everybody else. So don't try to, try to copy him. So that's what I took from it. I would just try to pick his brains as much as possible. And he's an amazing,


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[Assistant] God, you know, he didn't have to, I was kind of like his rookie, he would come out early with me and work on things and show me certain things and he didn't have to do that, he's all pro, he's a future first batter, hall of famer, arguably the best defensive player to ever play the game and he didn't have to do that, you know, and uhm,


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[Assistant] I always tell the story like he's just a amazing human, amazing human being and just a freak of nature we'll probably never see.


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[Assistant] I would say, uh, this year for sure, and then depending on how this year goes, if it's, if they're right there, if they can almost get there or get to the Super Bowl, then one more year. But if it's a bad year, like last year, he has nothing else to prove. You get what I'm saying? So I'll say two, two max.


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[Assistant] One at the least, depending on how this season goes, because they're blowing up that roster down there.


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[Assistant] Back in the day you wanted your D tackles, you know, 0-6-3+, 320, they wanted to pass the eye test. He has opened up a lot of doors for certain stature type of D lineman that say I can play and I can be explosive, I can be dominant and very productive.


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[Assistant] Like the gig, he's opened up doors for a certain stature of guys and it's just been amazing. And I'm biased. I know how tough it is, uhm, inside.


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[Assistant] In the sense of, you know, those edge guys are great. LT and Reggie White, they're amazing. Nothing to take away from those guys. But you guys seen more of them play than I did. You were around when TV was in black and white.


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[Assistant] So with my, with my eyes, all I've seen play is, is Arandana. To do that from the inside when it's easier for teams to double team you and scheme you up and to still be that productive and defeat double teams, sometimes triple teams and to still make plays.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I have to go with him as the greatest player that I've, defensive player that I've ever seen and to me he's number one on my list and it may be a little biased because of the personal relationship but.


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[Assistant] I'd say, uhm, just, I'd say Jets, but be careful just already anointing the Jets going to the Super Bowl, cause we've seen this, in two years we have enough sample size, it could be a 2021 with Matt Stafford going to the Los Angeles Rams and being that last piece that the teams need and they win the Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Or it could be a Russell Wilson situation. You get what I'm saying? Going to a team where, oh, this roster is just a quarterback away. Great defense, great weapons on the outside. The quarterback comes to a new situation and everything.


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[Assistant] Hits the ground, so just be careful because we've seen it could be the pinnacle, a Super Bowl, or you can get a new quarterback and not make the playoffs and people start questioning.


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[Assistant] I'm going to go Stafford in the Rams. Really? Because I believe Aaron Rodgers is better than Russell Wilson no matter what system you put him in. Aaron Rodgers is like Steven X is a bad man. That's a bad man. I hope it's closer to the Rams. So that's where I'm going to go. I'm going to say the Jets have a better chance.


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[Assistant] Absolutely, but you try not to step on toes, you looking at the paper, you take a double look. Like, where do you come up with this? This isn't maddening, you can't just, this isn't maddening, but uhm, we don't get paid to draw, uh, draw plays and concerts, we just get paid to go out there and run it, so.


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[Assistant] Nah, I've seen us try to run a left tackle screen. WHAT?!


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I think he fake blocks and then he takes a step back and catches- but it didn't, he got lit up.


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[Assistant] Somebody's losing their job. Let's say Miles Garrett goes to the X receiver, he runs a curl route. Right. Gets hurt. Somebody's losing their job. He gets hurt. He gets hurt. Now he can't rush quarterback. Now Miles is hurt because he wants to play receiver. We pay him 20 million dollars to, I'd rather him get hurt.


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[Assistant] I feel like it depends on everybody's situation. It's different because some people leave here and they got two, three kids.


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[Assistant] To each his own, it depends how you save and how the habits that you've created, uh, but like myself, like I've gotten to like acting and stuff like that, do acting, commercials and things like that. I know some guys.


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[Assistant] They keep their jobs. They're like, oh, can you give me three, four months to go chase my dream? Then I'll come back. So everybody's situation is different.


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[Assistant] Yeah, uh, had a Super Bowl commercial, got to work with Rihanna for Apple for the last Super Bowl and then I played, uhm, hold on, it was a Fox commercial. I played Larry Little for the 50th anniversary of the Miami Dolphins tribute that both of them just came out a couple months ago. No kidding. Yeah, uhm, did some stuff on a show called All American.


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[Assistant] It was for Apple because they did the halftime show, so it's, uhm, all of us were singing like her song, Stay.


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[Assistant] So, so that's the next goal. So I just started doing this about three, four months ago and it blew up like I was so shocked. You know, it's been a blessing. Uhm, and that's the reason I got into it. Cause after last season, the phone didn't ring like I thought it was to go to the next level. And I was just in a very dark place like questioning everything. I wasn't eating, going outside. I had to find something else that.


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[Assistant] I'm like, I'm great in front of a camera, you know, uhm, the show All American was having a casting call at the time, they just wanted football players, but they had actors out there trying to do football stuff. I'm like, I can go do this. Yeah, that doesn't work. Uhm, I met the director. She was like, wow, I love you. I actually want to bring you on as one of his core teammates to be like on camera all the time.


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[Assistant] So that happened and then I just started reaching out to commercial agents and I was able to sign.


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[Assistant] Sign with two of them and they push you out for jobs, but that's just more on the commercial side of things.


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[Assistant] When I go back home next time, if I'm not back in the NFL, I'm gonna be trying to get a theatrical agent. And that's who sends you roles for TV shows and movies and things like that. So I got my vision board. I look at it every morning and that's one of the things on my vision board is a sign with a theatrical agent so I could just keep pushing.


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[Assistant] Oh man, uh, getting my little fake wig Jerry Carroll put on there, the, uh, costumes and makeup doing a great job there. So that's what that picture's got the, I don't know. Is that a real must? No, that's my mustache. Yeah, that's a real mustache and things like that.


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[Assistant] So they wanted to do a, uhm, just a tribute and we just did like a locker room scene of when they won the Super Bowl, just, uh, and remember to Don Shulin and things like that. So that's what that is. I was blessed to be able to, this is a Fox commercial. So I did my audition in my USFL jersey. I knew I was going to get it. Wasn't no way. Oh yeah. Cause they own the USFL.


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[Assistant] So I said, wait a minute, I'm going to do it in my U.S.A. field football jersey. Boom. The next day agent hit me up like, they want you. Lock it in. Let's do it. That's awesome.


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[Assistant] So she's like, let me see that comeback. No, the offer is offered. Do you want it or not? I'm like, damn, I still take it. So there we go.


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[Assistant] Cause I got those back to back cause they were both for Superbowl. So I think I did that one first and then the Apple one after that. And then I did some stuff with KT Tape as a sports taping brand.


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[Assistant] The North Face thing is coming out, so there are like five, five projects. That's awesome, man. Within like three, three, four months. That's great. Along with doing a TV show called All Americans, so.


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[Assistant] So it's been picking up, so hopefully when I hit the ground, I'll get back home and hit the ground running. At All Americans on Netflix, correct? It's on Netflix, but it's a CW show, so it airs on CW every week, and then it goes on Netflix, uhm, about a month or two after the season ends.


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[Assistant] Uhm, just the Spring League viewership and the fans are just, there's fans of the XFL and there's fans of the U.S. NFL, they're trying to tear each other down when it's...


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[Assistant] In theory, we should be bringing each other up. A lot of jobs for, for players and, and, um, medias and coaches giving guys second and third chances and things like this. So, you know, sometimes the fans, they just, our league is better, so they be going.


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[Assistant] We definitely, we definitely will win. We're professionals, you know, everybody.


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[Assistant] On that, on those teams that are hoping to get to the NFL if they don't then to a lesser degree at Spring League. But we have guys that's already there. Guys on our team that's won Super Bowls, that's been to the highest level. But that's, Ohio State is amazing. That's a different level ball club, so I'm sure they might, uhm, put up a fight, but I would hope to think that we would beat them. I would hope to think that.


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[Assistant] You lost me with that. What is that, a blowing wind emoji? I don't think I use, I kinda know the emojis I use, so I'm going fake. Come on. He's not positive.


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[Assistant] And, you know, uhm, I don't know if you guys watch this show, but it's a huge Netflix hit, and this is the thing, this is a song that they, what are you erasing?


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[Assistant] Absolutely this is real. Yep. This is after San Jose State have finally won the Mountain West Championship game and all those places are college bars right there on the same street that will be going, going crazy.


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[Assistant] Where this trend came from, cause it's like now everybody's a big, all flats, well done type of, you know what?


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[Assistant] I'm just trying to like figure out how do you guys know so well, like we're fat.


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[Assistant] Christine Blasey Ford had to go before the eyes of a nation and the world.


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[Assistant] I flew out to South Africa on Friday morning. 14 hours later, I landed in my hometown Johannesburg.


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[Assistant] This is a road I used to drive on pretty much my entire...


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[Assistant] That's what we do in South Africa. We don't have road rage. We have road joy.


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[Assistant] We just smiled at each other and we, we honked. It was very confusing for me when I first got to New York. I thought everyone was my friend. They were not. So we're heading to my grandmother's house now. Uh, I told her we're on the way, but that doesn't mean she'll be there. So uhm,


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[Assistant] Uh, and yes, we walk in the streets. We played in the streets. This was the playground. This is where you hung out with your friends. This is where everything went down. Sanbornani! And your neighbors scream when you walk by. That's what we all do. What's amazing about this place is that nothing's changed. In a good way. It's like a museum. That's what it is. And we're here at my grandmother's house.


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[Assistant] Welcome to it. This is where I grew up. This wall was a lot taller when I was younger. But uh, let's see if she's here. So this is where I grew up.


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[Assistant] This is where we used to want to park our cars. We didn't have any cars, but we still built driveways because that's what life is all about. Ambition.


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[Assistant] I'll show you some of the security features that I installed in the house. We've got what's known as a intruder defense mechanism system of glass. Every single one of these bottles. I drank what was inside. Balling. This is where the magic happens.


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[Assistant] Anybody can have a toilet inside the house, but it takes a real baller to have a toilet outside the house. Now if you guys will excuse me, I'm about to make some magic happen. MTV Cribs, your boy. Oh wait, there's no toilet paper, hold on.


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[Assistant] But I, I told them that I was an apartheid hero, Coco. I wasn't.


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[Assistant] Okay. And now I'm also a manager of White People Gogo. Unbelievable.


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[Assistant] It comes from my mother, Gogo. Do you know I'm a manager of white people, Gogo?


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, Gogo. The white people who work for me.


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[Assistant] She doesn't watch my show because sometimes the electricity cuts out.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I must get someone to fit the generator also.


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[Assistant] Thank you for having us Kogo and thank you for letting me bring these cameras. And thank you for sharing these stories with my friends. And thank you for being amazing.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, uh, uh.


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[Assistant] I think right then and there it was like I was trying to find out what I was doing. Like it was coming in so fast.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm in Chicago, we was on some straight gang banging shit, so I had to switch and I had to change up.


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[Assistant] What's going on? I'm like a rap star damn near or some shit.


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[Assistant] So, yeaah, I had to start moving differently. Just start doing different shit, making different music, and start making different moves. That's how I even met you.


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[Assistant] Things that got me locked up. I caught that before I even made a song, bro. So it was just...


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[Assistant] Iowa got some weird ass laws. Like, that's like a place that you, people usually don't go. Like, Iowa, you don't usually hear people from Iowa. So.


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[Assistant] Like, I was out there, I got caught selling drugs. It was 2012.


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[Assistant] That's the state next to us, you know what I'm saying, and it's not a big city. They can't, like, we get drugs cheaper over there, and we take it there and make more money. Everybody in the world, you know, like, there's people in prisons everywhere that's not from where they're at. Note to self, jug in Iowa.


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[Assistant] I was saying I got, uhm, poset, crack, what the fuck was my charge? It was possession with intent to deliver crack, okay.


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[Assistant] Oh man, when you know how to sell shit, you got the gift of gab, man, you know? So it was like, you feel me? Like, I've been trapping forever, like, so I know what to do, like, but it was a lot of people I knew down there. That's how I even got in that situation. Okay. I got caught in somebody else's house when they got raided. Oh. And I just took.


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[Assistant] And I just so happened to be there. What'd you happen to have on you? I had like, uh, I had some grams on me though.


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[Assistant] Okay, so nothing serious? I just, I had some, I had some grams on me.


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[Assistant] So it wasn't super, it wasn't a lot, you know what I'm saying? But I just fessed up to it and that was...


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[Assistant] Like one of my first, like my record was kind of clean. Okay. Like I had shit as a juvenile, but I was freshly like 19. So 20, I think. And it was like, yeah, I was like 20, 21. And shit, they gave me probation. And when they found out I was a rapper, that's what it was. They found out I was a rapper. I had two.


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[Assistant] Probation officers, I have one in Iowa, I have one in Chicago, now.


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[Assistant] I paid the transfer back to Chicago. So basically Chicago is just babysitting me at this point. And they send six more progress reports back to Iowa. Now I had a show in Canada. I asked for permission to go. My PO in Illinois was like, you gotta ask Iowa. I asked Iowa.


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[Assistant] And that's making this lady go and look like all he's a rapper was his name. So when she type me up, the first thing that pop up is me with guns.


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[Assistant] Drugs, all type of shit. This lady's like, oh fuck no. Fuck no. So we locking his ass up. They put in requests for court back in 2016, like October and shit.


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[Assistant] And yes, and use that to get grounds to get me in court. And at the end of the day, they basically arrested me for saying I traveled without permission because


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[Assistant] I was just taking pictures on Instagram and posting and tagging where I'm at. And that didn't even stick because I had to, I brung up in court like, okay, y'all got a picture in this file. Say I'm in Singapore. How the fuck do I get in Singapore without a passport? Right. And I'm a fella. So.


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[Assistant] Like, I'm just, you can't tell me where I'm at. I'm just tagging anything. So that didn't really stick. They just locked me up. Like, fuck it. Like, lock him up. Like, and started my sentence over.


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[Assistant] And I'm like, should I? But I was really still in the streets for real, for real, so.


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[Assistant] It wasn't no, uh, that's the last thing on my mind.


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[Assistant] But fuck them, a nigga shooting at me every day. Right. So I wasn't thinking about that shit. So you went in and you did almost three years? No, I just did 19 months. Oh, okay. I just did 19 months. I got locked up June 2nd, 2017.


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[Assistant] The fact that I'm a rapper now and a lot of people know me and shit, that shit was crazy. Like niggas was rapping to me.


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[Assistant] Like, uh, like, I had to feed so many people cause you know what I'm saying, like I got it and it's fucked up cause I'm not the type of person that's going to eat in front of other people. So I'm cool with some of these people. So, you know what I'm saying, like I was buying like real foods and shit, like, like pizzas and chicken and shit. So I just, I feed everybody.


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[Assistant] I swear to god, but I kept a couple thousand dollars on my books. You know what I'm saying? And niggas in there don't got nothing. They indigent. They don't got 10 cents. They can't make a phone call and how I work in Iowa with prison, you got to put the money on your phone from your account.


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[Assistant] To even call out to the world, to even talk to anybody, any of that shit. So yeaah, it was like, I can sit on the phone all day if I want to for the whole day while we out. We was out from 6 in the morning until what, 10, 11 o'clock at night.


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[Assistant] So I could sit on the phone all day, so they looking at me like, damn this nigga, he, he, he, and then.


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[Assistant] It was, it was more love than bullshit. I got into a couple, you know, couple situations, couple altercations, but it wasn't nothing like, yea, cause I started out in a minimum prison and ended up in a max. Really? Yea.


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[Assistant] People think going to prison, stopping people from living, the only thing you can't do is get no pussy. That's if ain't no COs in there, that's fucking.


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[Assistant] Shoot some heroin. Shoot some heroin, smoke some coke, they smoking weed.


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[Assistant] Like, I'm like, what the fuck? We're in prison. They ain't do nothing but put us in a small community full of criminals. Right. And that shit still come through. Cause they not.


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[Assistant] It's like me right to the hole for that shit. Set in the hole for like two months for that shit. You know what I'm saying? Went back to the minimum where I was at. Then I got called with a cell phone. Oh man. Then now I went from a minimum to...


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[Assistant] Back to the, the, the classification prison and then to a max.


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[Assistant] So they don't take much, like if you get into like a gang fight or something, they take like 120 days and shit like that, that like kind of make your sentence longer. Like you always eligible for parole, but if you stay out of trouble.


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[Assistant] You gon' get out. If you into trouble, the parole board gon' deny you. I got denied the first time. They ran me up for parole in, um, in April of 2018. And they denied me.


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[Assistant] And then I act like I have some fucking sense. And then they bring me back, I did some classes and shit, and they get approval of my parole and shit.


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[Assistant] Like what the fuck. That shit was a different feeling. Like smoking for the first time in there, all that shit. That shit was a different feeling.


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[Assistant] Oh man, they in the ways to weed smoke and get away with it and shit, like gotta pump the toilet, they basically turn it into a vacuum and shit.


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[Assistant] Like we gotta smoke and blow it into the toilet and shit. Like when people don't understand, you gotta go to prison and know, like, that's why a lot of people be like, aw, I don't give a fuck. Like I'm not cool with that shit though. I like pussy and I like my kids and shit. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] You can't do nothing with that shit. That shit, they controlling you when you can do this and when you can do that. It's just people, I feel like it's them COs and shit, people who been bullied all their life and now they want to work here. Just to, you feel me, just be like,


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[Assistant] Oh, you can't do this and you do that and get the fuck they can mace you and try to beat you the fuck up and shit knowing if you catch him in the real world, what's going to happen, you know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Uhm, shit, basically they told, when they denied me the first time, they basically told me to do, uhm, like a, a class called thinking for a change. Like, you know, and I completed that shit. I did like three months of that shit, completed that shit, and they granted my parole. Shit, and I came home. So.


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[Assistant] My man, that shit was crazy. I'm not gonna lie, that shit was crazy cause it's like...


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[Assistant] Me just walking out that door after 19 months of not knowing what the hell going on, I'm like damn, I just got out for real, like for real, for real.


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[Assistant] And shit, I got out, the first thing I did, I put an EP out, seven songs, called The First 48.


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[Assistant] I went right to the studio. Well, I couldn't move at first cause you gotta wait till they come and see you and shit like that and let you know what your stipulations is. I'm a non-violent offender so I can do really.


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[Assistant] I just stay out of trouble, you know what I'm saying? Right. So I put the studio downstairs, hooked it up in the basement and shit.


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[Assistant] Got in there, dropped seven songs with like 30 something else. Put that shit out.


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[Assistant] Like sometimes it's difficult as fuck. Like sometimes shit just come to my head so I just wrote it down. I kept notebooks by me. Like I still got notebooks full of shit I haven't even put on wax yet that I have to do that. I plan on doing that. But like when you in there, like sometimes you, you feel it okay knowing the situation at hand. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Like when you a short time and you know it's a, you gonna get out, you, you feel better than most people who got 30 and 40 years or 17 years and they know they got some time and shit.


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[Assistant] When they, when they replicated me, they basically sentenced me to one to four years. Okay. That means in that way, you do a year, you eligible for parole in between that time. Could have, if I could like kept fucking up and doing fighting and getting caught with shit and shit like that, I could end up doing the whole four years. You know what I'm saying? Right. But you know what I'm saying? They let me out. So, but it was like,


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[Assistant] Shit, like I was writing a lot of shit. I got notebooks full of shit at the crib, but...


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[Assistant] Sometimes you just can't think about that shit. Like, you like, damn, fuck that rap shit. I'm in hell. I don't know what's going on. Right. You know?


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[Assistant] You miss 6ix9ine coming out and 6ix9ine getting federal charges. Listen, I'm hearing about 6ix9ine the whole time I'm locked up. Like, who the fuck is this nigga? I see him on TMZ. I'm this colorful head, who the fuck is this?


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[Assistant] Come on bro, I've never seen a gangster with a motherfucking, he look like some type of, I don't know if that was a, uh, like a seventh super scene, like another level.


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[Assistant] Like, did you know, like, how they had go-tinks and shit, and like, you can merge a lot of them together and make him, like, that shit look, that's not gangster, bro, did he?


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[Assistant] So far, because I would've knew where he was at.


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[Assistant] And I know, that's the thing, I know who he was with. I know the girls he was with. I know who recorded the video for him.


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[Assistant] So this is what I'm saying, like it would have been so much different if I was out. But me being in New York so much, me and him would have rubbed shoulders and I would have been like, just bro, chill, just chill on that shit for real. Like, you know what I'm saying? Cause you know, I've been in situations out there, it's like, it can get serious. I would have just let him know, like do your music shit bro, but don't try to come, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause they got, they got like, like MP3 players and shit, but they only had like albums. So you know, the world of music is mixtapes right now. So, you know what I'm saying? It was a lot of shit I was missing, but I still wanted to like, I watched TMZ every day when I was in jail, like,


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[Assistant] Just to, like, I had to stay in tune and at least know what's going on. I stayed on the phone a lot too, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, I got a steel nose going on. I ain't going forever. It's just a little time, you know. Once you start sitting and you see them seasons start passing, you all, yeah, this shit gonna be.


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[Assistant] Man bro, it's like, it's hectic dinner motherfuckers. I'm making terrible decisions. What do you mean? I can't say too much because bitches are going to be watching this, but I'm making terrible female decisions and shit.


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[Assistant] I can't even say nobody held me down though cause I had my own money. You know what I'm saying? So they ain't have to put money on they phone or put money on my books and not no female I was talking to had to do that shit. Like I did that shit. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I can't really say hold down shit, but people answered they phone, they was around, you know. People sent pictures and shit like that.


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[Assistant] Shit, I don't really know, like, I came out of jail, I'm still observing shit, so, I just know I'm-


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[Assistant] I'm not, like, as, as, as loose as I used to be, you know what I'm saying? Like, on some, just, wild and out type shit. You know, I gotta, everything gotta be strategized. Everything is a, like, a game of chess, so I gotta make the right moves and shit. Right. So, just, just in, you feel me?


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[Assistant] I know shit, they, they come snatch me and lock me up for anything. You know what I'm saying? So everything just got to be smart though.


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[Assistant] No? Fuck no. Hell no. Cause I'm on more, I'm on Chicago parole now.


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[Assistant] And you got to think Chicago, they looking for guns. They looking for niggas killing people and shit. Know what I'm saying? I got a case and from another state.


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[Assistant] And that ain't that serious, and it's old as fuck, and they know the terms and shit, like I supposed to have been done with that shit. Right. And basically in Iowa, I'm basically serving two sentences because I did, it's, I had a ten year charge, it's four years and eight months to discharge it.


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[Assistant] I did four years and nine months on probation before they replicated it. So I suppose been done already.


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[Assistant] Now, I just did a year and a half and now I got like another two years on that shit. So it's like I'm doing two cents.


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[Assistant] I never even thought about it like that. That's true. Damn, he passed while you were gone too? He passed while I was gone. That shit was crazy. I was just talking to him.


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[Assistant] No, and he was just telling me like, you know, chill out with the drugs and shit like that shit killing us. Leah had his first seizure and you know what I'm saying? He was just telling my people, he told my auntie like I want to talk to Breezo.


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[Assistant] I got to him and he was just telling me like, shit, slow down.


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[Assistant] Cause we a, we a sit and smoke a pound and fucking two days just type shit. You know what I'm saying? Just me, him and one other person. That's a lot of weed. You know what I'm saying? We popping perks and zans and just everything. Just doing drugs. Always got lean around.


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[Assistant] Hell fucking yeaah. Like now, me coming out and coming out of jail is like the only thing I would do is smoke. You know what I'm saying? Because...


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[Assistant] Like, when I got locked up, I was like barely 175 pounds, 180, I'm 6'5", bro, that's terrible.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, now I'm like 230, you know? Like, so, and at one point when I was in the joint, I was like 255, like 260. That was just too much though. Just all muscle? No, I was just muscle, bro. Really? It's just, but it was like, it was too much, so I started letting some, you know, get out, pounds instantly drop off you.


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[Assistant] So, yeaah, I ain't, I can't get back to how I was.


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[Assistant] Like, twice a day. Just banging out pushups and shit or what? Like...


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[Assistant] I would have my days where I'd do push ups, pull ups and dips and, or I'd go and get on the free weights. I'd do cable weights too, but the free weights, that's my thing right there though.


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[Assistant] Nah, like I wouldn't say you lose motivation, I'd say you're doing more.


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[Assistant] Like when you behind the wall, like, you know, you either, either playing cards or talking shit or you got a little bullshit job in there or you, you know what I'm saying? You just doing some, you working out is something that you can do to help you pass time. Right. So, and then at the end of the day, it makes you, it's helping your physique. Yeah.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like, like, like now, like even if I, when I don't get to some weights, I do like, like sets of 50, like, like five sets of 50 on the pushups and shit, just to stay bulked up a little bit. You know what I'm saying? But there, it's, it's the look, it's a different look. I mean, I'm grown now anyway. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] Yeaah, like definitely, like, you know what I'm saying, putting that out, I had got, like, very quickly, I got like 6 million streams and some shit, so I'm like, alright, cool. Like, you know what I'm saying, there's still a lot of people that don't even know I'm home yet. They're like, damn, he home? People tweeting to me and shit like, man, why ain't nobody tell me 600 Breezy was out? He was out, been out for a month.


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[Assistant] So yeah, I'm definitely, I've been in the studio every day since I got out. That's how motivated I am for real though. Like I'm in the studio every day. I don't miss a beat.


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[Assistant] At one point, you gonna think like that. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like, damn, like you putting in all this work. And if you had a sight out of mind for so long, people will forget.


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[Assistant] But when you got real die hard fans, like, you know what I'm saying? They don't forget, like they pushing, like they.


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[Assistant] Just the Free Breezo campaign was retarded. Like it was crazy. So it was, it was so crazy that shit made it to the news and all type of shit. So, yeah bro. Like, yeah, I thought about it at one point, but then when I started hearing what was going on and people was, see my fans, they still around. That shit, I got new fans too. Definitely. I gotta get some more fans.


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[Assistant] It's definitely better. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, it's just, it's a better environment here. You know what I'm saying? Like, Chicago is a good place, but it's a better environment.


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[Assistant] Yea, cause it's like, you know what I'm saying, we still got all that same bullshit we was going through in Chicago. Like, it never changes, it never stops. Like, I can be like, oh, I'm no gangbang no more, I'm not with it, I ain't with that. But somebody's still gonna see me and feel some type of way, you know what I'm saying? So, you gotta keep the same energy, you know? Definitely. I'ma keep the same energy, I know who I am, like.


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[Assistant] I grew up a gang banging ass nigga, now I'm just, you know what I'm saying? I'm not, that's not my main focus, but to protect myself, you gotta keep that mentality.


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[Assistant] And go back to prison. You know what I'm saying? Like that's ridiculous.


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[Assistant] That's crazy to take somebody away from their family and making their money and you know what I'm saying and doing what they're doing in life for nothing. Especially like some bullshit like.


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[Assistant] Like, meek shit, he got caught, what, with a gun and some work.


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[Assistant] He had his last shit. He got, from video of him popping a willy out of state, you know what I'm saying? And his judge was like, fuck it. He finna go to jail. We had seen him in two to four years. I don't know what's going on with his shit cause he just keep extending.


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[Assistant] He's, he keeps saying he on probation. So I don't know if he on parole or probation cause it's two different things, but his shit keep extending. So my shit done when it's done. Then two years is done. No matter what, they can't do nothing else.


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[Assistant] It's easy, because I'ma be working, you know what I'm saying? I ain't like, I'm still standing on the block, you know what I'm saying? Doing some dumb shit, toting my pipe or something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't gotta do none of that shit, and like, I'm, uh, I ain't got nothing to prove to nobody.


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[Assistant] Sometimes, but it would have to be on some, if I see somebody and they disrespected me in some type of way, it's something, it's gotta happen. It's gotta happen. It's just, it's cause that's how I am like, that's just how I was raised. I'm a man at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying? Before anything.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, like I ain't how I used to be with the internet shit. I used to like niggas say something to me on Twitter. I'm going right back. Oh, I don't do none of that shit no more. But if it is a situation, it's a few people, if I bump into them, it's going to have something going to have to happen. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like since I've been out ain't nobody, you know what I'm saying? Ain't nobody said my name. Ain't nobody did none of that. So it's cool. Cause they see I ain't, I got out. I ain't thinking about them. I got right, right to work. You know what I'm saying? Dropping videos, dropping music. That's it. That's what I'm on. So.


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[Assistant] I don't know, you know what I'm saying? Like my nigga Fredo told me like shit when I get out it's gonna be just like riding a bike. It's gonna be, you know, and that's how it is. It's like you pick that bike up and start pedaling.


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[Assistant] Like when he told me that from the jump, it meant something to me because I seen the difference in how my body was working being sober. You know what I'm saying? Without any of that shit, seeing the weight I can gain and shit like that, you know.


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[Assistant] And knowing he just had that first seizure, it was like, I, you know what I'm saying? I'm definitely, first of all, he a nigga everybody gonna listen to anyway. He wise, you know what I'm saying? He different than a lot of people from where we come from. So.


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[Assistant] Just hearing that from him and he, I'm in, I'm locked up. He reaching out to my people like, man, when you talk to him, call me, I want to talk to him. Cause he know, you know what I'm saying, he just was thinking about me. Like, shit, I do drugs how he do drugs.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Yea, that shit, it is, it meant a lot. It meant a lot to, she, it's fucked up. That was our last conversation as well. It was like, damn.


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[Assistant] Damn, that shit really killed them though. So like, I don't fuck with that lean. I used to fuck with that shit. Like, I think my last, the first No Jumping interview I came in with lean and everything. I had this bag full of drugs. Like, that's just how I was moving. Like, that's just.


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause that shit, you start feeling it. You start feeling that shit wearing and tearing on your body. Like what the fuck. Like that shit was fucked my kitty up, had kidney stones and shit. Like pissing that shit out. That shit is like deaf.


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[Assistant] Man, I swear that shit look like crystals coming out your shit, like, and that shit hurt, it gotta pass through. So the best thing you can do is keep drinking water and drowning yourself in water so we can try to-


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[Assistant] Dissolve it, but that shit gotta come out. It's gonna come out.


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[Assistant] See, I was drinking my shit in vitamin water. So, you know, just to get that taste. But yea, I'm done with that shit, man. That's cough medicine. That shit sitting on, we ain't supposed to be taking that shit like that.


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[Assistant] Definitely, definitely. Like I'm more energetic without all that shit too. So, yeaah, it's been like, they only catch me smoking. That's it.


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[Assistant] You gotta be prepared to go to jail. I'm throwing rocks at the potentially out of my life.


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[Assistant] Gotta knock that shit out, man. Take that shit like a champ. Don't tell on no motherfucking body. Come right back. Hell yea. Yea, that streets gon' still love you. They still gon' respect you, shit.


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[Assistant] Shit, I just need to thank every fucking body. Everybody that shit rolled that bed out with me, waited on me to come back. You know what I'm saying? Breeze all the little rawls and shit. They know what's going on. Definitely shout out to Lil Jumper, my niggas. I'm mad at him, my nigga Young Swab. Johnny ain't had two with me, you know. So shit. They and my bitch just left. We ain't gotta...


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[Assistant] Why you run? I was scared. I know what's going on. Scared of what? I know what's going on.


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[Assistant] They go live? We're streaming. Turn the sound effects off. Boom.


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[Assistant] There we go. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today I have Battle Rap Legend, hilarious fucking dude, possibly a genius disaster. I am possibly a genius. Quite possibly a genius.


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[Assistant] Thank you man, I really appreciate this shit right here. This has probably been the most enjoyable preparation that I've ever done for an interview, just watching a shitload of your battles and just taking in so much fucking insane.


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[Assistant] Sometimes, very quickly, just start to erode. Very quickly. Is just, it's crazy, because in a debate, you see someone actually like disproving something. When you're in a battle, you're really trying to disprove that person's worth. Fucking whole life.


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[Assistant] Or, you know, the shit will go fucking sideways. Something you've had issues with in the past.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but, okay, let me just throw this question out there, is, how'd you get into this shit?


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[Assistant] What made you attracted to the battle scene as opposed to, you know, just regular rap? I mean this goes- Josh, can you have Chris do my social media?


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[Assistant] So when did you actually first go to like an official battle? That's a good question.


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[Assistant] See, that's gotta be kind of the problem, right? Is that the more in-depth you go, the harder the audience has a time following it, right?


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[Assistant] Honey, what do you think of like the Migos as lyricists?


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[Assistant] Not allowing that because. It's weird how people consider them to be in competition because it's like, you know, anyone who can rap could theoretically go be a battle rapper, but it's such a different scene within a scene, I guess.