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[Assistant] And if you look at it now, there's almost anything he can sell them. So if he sells them, that's really not so bad what the Russians are doing. You hear people, you say, you say stuff like that to people and they go, well, we meddled in elections before. I'm like, okay, yeah, we do a lot of shit. We sponsor client terrorism all over the world. Like we do a lot of stuff.


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[Assistant] You still don't like it when it's done to you. We're talking about America here.


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[Assistant] And if people are willing to kind of shrug these things off and if there's no groundswell of public opposition to them,


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[Assistant] And of course they're not gonna get done. I mean, uhm, Trump has a mandate from his base that I've never seen politically before. They really don't give a fuck what he does, right?


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[Assistant] The political, economic, and social capital that he can will is almost unprecedented. I don't know how you beat it, to be honest with you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it depends. I used to be able to kind of look at those things like it... I don't know how it'll go. There's a chance that...


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[Assistant] Things self-correct and they realize things can't go this way for a long time and there's been a lot of people who feel, uhm,


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[Assistant] I know a lot of people on the right who feel they didn't get some of the things that they thought they would get from, from, from President Trump's administration. Uh, so they might almost come back to what we know as, uh, traditional Republicans or the traditional GOP. But to your point, it might be over forever.


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[Assistant] And if it is over forever, you have to wonder.


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[Assistant] Is if in some time in the near or not so distant future, there's going to be some kind of mass bloody conflict in America.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that there would be mass, widespread violence if Trump were to lose an election.


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[Assistant] Because if he loses an election and he then...


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[Assistant] One or two things happen, right? If he loses an election, he says that election wasn't fair.


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[Assistant] You know, they've conspired to get them out, they hate Trump, yeaah. There are going to be people who are going to want to go to the mattresses for that.


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[Assistant] There could be a chance that Trump won't leave office. I think everyone's right at that.


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[Assistant] That, and it gets four extra years, or whatever would happen, there's a chance that people wanna left.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, uh, might think that that's the breaking point and you might see widespread violence, but like literally I think that we have between


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[Assistant] 16 and 20 months to really figure out the future of America.


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[Assistant] And that goes from, that's from a client chain, a client, a climate change perspective, you know, really that's the world, and from a political and social perspective. I think that we are on the precipice of serious, serious danger.


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[Assistant] I think if Trump wins, like for me personally, you just gotta keep doing what it is that you're doing. And you have to really start to look at things in a micro level.


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[Assistant] Uh, was bad. The next one would undoubtedly be worse. Uhm, but.


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[Assistant] What you definitely can't do is do what people do whenever they're poked by a bully, which is fucking panic. You definitely can't panic. You just gotta get your knuckles dirty and fight a little bit.


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[Assistant] And I think if there's one criticism that I have of the left, is they sometimes act like on their pussy shit.


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[Assistant] Like they scared of a good fight. They scared to get in the mud.


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[Assistant] They scared to get down in the dirt. They scared to really go in for what they believe in. They want to be a little too conciliatory.


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[Assistant] They wanna be a little bit too light. They wanna be a little bit too this. It's kinda some soft bullshit sometimes. Sometimes you just gotta roll your sleeves up and get to fucking work.


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[Assistant] And if I was talking to any of the candidates on the left, I would tell them, man, it's time to grab your lunch pail and get to work. Man, it's crunch time. So, some of this shit, and it's, you know.


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[Assistant] I don't know if they have the right personalities over there, I don't know what it is, but uhm, with me, no matter who's in the White House, you know, that's what I'ma do.


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[Assistant] I think that, I mean listen, the three guys who do what they do at TMZ, Harvey, Evan, and Charles, they are real newsmen.


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[Assistant] Uhm, they care about the news representing what really is happening. You know what I mean? They care about having solid sources. They care about that.


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[Assistant] They care about that type of stuff. Obviously nobody wants to get sued, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] But they need it to be real, like the way that you really, really because even Adam from a branding standpoint.


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[Assistant] If too much of your shit is bullshit, you can't build the type of, uh, audience that you need to have people coming back to your site. So they really care about that. I would say that in any place that's controlled by any people, you have a chance of people's inherent biases bleeding through the product that they have.


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[Assistant] And that has certainly been the case in my opinion at TMZ from time to time. And I think for me, the only thing that I can do.


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[Assistant] Is to make sure that if there's something culturally that I understand that they don't.


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[Assistant] Uh, then I'm able to voice my opinion about it, maybe sit down and participate in the writing of a story or whatever, uh, and make sure that it comes out in a way that I think is reflective of sometimes a cultural truth because there's absolute truth and then there's cultural truth.


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[Assistant] An absolute truth is did this happen, yes or no? A cultural truth is how and why it happened.


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[Assistant] So, you could paint somebody a bad person for doing something that...


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[Assistant] Reflects the fact that they adhere to a completely different set of rules than you do.


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[Assistant] And it would take somebody to explain that to you in order for you to get it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like, it's not necessarily that it wasn't accurate, like he didn't do this or that didn't happen, it's that I knew how it was meant.


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[Assistant] And maybe before you come down on somebody or you get all up in arms about it, if you kind of understand what the deal about it is, then, uh, like you would kind of, you would understand it, right? You'd get it. And it's like that with almost any culture.


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[Assistant] If I told you one day that I belong to a group of people that on Saturday we don't drive cars.


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[Assistant] We walk everywhere we gotta go. We don't use any electricity. Or if I told you I belong to a group of people that we never use electricity.


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[Assistant] Or we're able to have five or six wives. Whatever to, for at the beginning, you're going to make a cultural judgment of that.


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[Assistant] But when someone kind of connects the dots for you and translates the culture for you, hopefully you can humanize it a little bit. And the only thing that you want in a situation where you're dealing with people's actions in their lives and not on television or anything else is you want it to come from a human perspective.


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[Assistant] Any story that you put out is going to actually affect someone in their family. It's going to affect someone in their business. It's going to affect someone, uh, in their, in their relationships with their girl or in, you know, whatever they might have coming up or in their past or whatever. This is going to actually have an effect on somebody.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and as long as you feel like you can make that case to somebody and they're listening to you, I feel like I'm doing my job at TMZ.


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[Assistant] Rappers and ballplayers and people like that, you know, report it accurately. Just make sure we reflect where they come from and how they look at it and all of that stuff and work with those people so that they have their side of it, which is something that TMZ does.


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[Assistant] Right. That's the way it is. Either big story or big celebrity. You know what I mean? So uhm, but,


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[Assistant] Also, for me, one thing that I love about TMZ


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[Assistant] So I'm able to like, Benny the Butcher, shout out to Griselda, they were on TMZ last week.


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[Assistant] And that's cause, you know, me and Benny were able to hook it up to where there are guys that like, now they would have never called me and asked to be on TMZ. Ever.


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[Assistant] They would have never called me and asked me. Wouldn't even thought of it. Wouldn't have never thought about that. But for them?


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[Assistant] If it's just on some cool, promotional type cool shit, and they out here, yeaah, I'm like, I know where those guys gonna be. Send a camera out there. Let them do that thing on TV.


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[Assistant] It's about how you frame the story, how you pitch the story. So I'm in the office, I'm pitching the story. Uh, you know, I know that people might not know exactly who Benny and Conway and West Side are quite yet. They gon' know. I know people might not know quite yet, but I know that they know if Jay-Z says he's fucking with them.


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[Assistant] I know that they know if there's a list put out.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I know they know the XXL cover, right? So, like Hove had told, uh, Benny not to do the XXL cover. I know the XXL, it's all about linking them to fame so people know who they are.


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[Assistant] You know, for a long time, to be real with you, I was trying to get them to put Cardi B on TMZ. And her pitches would never make the show.


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[Assistant] And then one day, boom, you know, what happened was Love & Hip Hop happened. And that's a show that's already so famous, if you're from Love & Hip Hop, you're automatically worthy to be on TMZ. But it's all, it's nothing, it's never anything personal.


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[Assistant] Being able to report on people and cover people that people are going to care about. And that's always a tricky thing because you have some people that have...


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[Assistant] Like bro, like 4 million subscribers on YouTube, but they don't get recognized when they walk through LAX.


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[Assistant] And then these people have things and different things where you can go have fun with them. You can go like to different functions that they're having and stuff like that. They consume celebrity in a different way.


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[Assistant] And those, the YouTubers, they spend so much time making content that you're less likely to run into them. Now, there are some people, the Paul brothers and other people like that. What's a little girl?


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[Assistant] Little, uh, Tana? Nah, the other little girl. Little Ty? The one, the one, nah, not her. Bad baby? No.


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[Assistant] Uh, not well Vicky, the other little girl, the little girl, she like 16, she got like pigtails in her hair and she like, she does.


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[Assistant] Right, yeaah, so she gets mobbed. So I'm not saying that they're not big celebrities, it's just sometimes you wonder how the TMZ audience is going to, you know, look at this.


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[Assistant] It's a big fucking thing. And it's one of those things, it's one of those things that like, you don't know how big it is until it dawns on you how big it is. She huge.


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[Assistant] Right, they would shoot you, boom, and it's all of that, so you know, that's kind of a thing.


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[Assistant] I know, that's where the responsibility comes in, right? So the responsibility comes in journalistically to where if you say something that


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[Assistant] I mean, if you just say some wild shit, whatever, but if you say something that we can't verify or we think is irresponsible or we think that will hurt people, you're actually lessening your chances that you make it.


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[Assistant] Now if you say something that's really, really controversial, but within the realm of thought that a discussion can be had about, then yea, but then you gotta own that, right?


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[Assistant] If you saying something spicy like that, like, and you have enough celebrity cachet. It doesn't matter. Don't matter. You know what I mean? I'm not, I'm not saying that we don't care whether or not you mean it.


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[Assistant] The best that can be done in a situation like that is for me to be like in the room with somebody like, yo man, this dude is a troll. He just be saying stuff. Now if you do it too many times, they'll stop covering you.


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[Assistant] If that's your wave every single time, then they're not stupid.


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[Assistant] Wait man, I don't know if I know who that is. Is Lil Xan the Tupac dude?


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[Assistant] The dude that said that like Tupac can't rap or some shit like that. I mean look, he pulled a gun on somebody. You know what I'm saying? That went up, but he had to do that.


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[Assistant] That's when you really, when you pulling out the hammer on somebody at the, at the, at the


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[Assistant] I don't know, you know, I wish all people, you know, little dudes like that, well, whatever they gotta do, but if you diss Tupac or pull a hammer on somebody, you will probably make TMZ.


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[Assistant] All the time. I can think off the top of the head all kinds of positive things I've covered. Cause I go, I don't really do negative stories there, right? I do cool stories.


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[Assistant] Stories that, you know, like if you go into a club and you drop $150,000, people love that type of shit, right?


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[Assistant] I do stuff like that and then I do other positive stuff. We cover stories like that all the time. The problem is that what the people remember and what the people gravitate towards are the things that are negative.


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[Assistant] And so that does two things. Number one, it puts less currency.


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[Assistant] On, on positive stories. And number two, it makes the positive stories resonate a little bit less.


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[Assistant] That's not to alleviate any news, uhm, organization's responsibility to cover the totality of an individual. Cover someone every time they fuck up. You should try to cover someone when they trying to do something.


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[Assistant] I completely uh, agree with that. But what I would say is, people lean a little bit more into good news. We all need to do that though. That's just kinda how we wire it though. Max Kellerman has a great, great quote, right?


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[Assistant] Everyone's favorite sports boxing. He's like, why? He goes, okay, so if you go to a, uh, if you're on a street corner, right, and it's three different things happening on the street corner. One is a guy, two guys playing one on one, right? Another one is some kids in the street playing stickball. Another one is a pickup football game.


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[Assistant] And on the fourth side of the street, there's two guys fighting. Which one you gonna watch? Yeah.


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[Assistant] Everybody's watching the two guys fight and he goes, that's why your favorite sport is boxing. There's something that's hardwired into us as human beings that draws us to conflict.


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[Assistant] Also boxing, boxing's coming back now, but boxing fucked itself for a long time by being not about competition. Like boxing became sort of an exhibition show where guys would fight each other and like,


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[Assistant] You can only gain people for so long until they realize y'all not serious about what y'all doing.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? And so, and so there's a lot of brand building and shit like that that goes into it, but I say all that to say that like, you know, uhm,


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[Assistant] Conflict and all of that stuff like that, you wanna grab people. But I do think...


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[Assistant] Uhm, honestly and sincerely, that of the organizations that I know and of the people that I know, TMZ does its best, does its best to accurately report and portray things.


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[Assistant] That does not mean that mistakes don't get made. It does not mean that sometimes I don't believe that we've been unfair. I think that you have human beings running things and human beings do what they do.


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[Assistant] Uh, they do the best they can do and sometimes they're wrong-headed about things, but, uh,


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[Assistant] Whereas I'm not like a company man where I would spend a lot of time defending the company and all of that stuff like that. It's not, you know.


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[Assistant] I'm not all of that. I'm saying that, I will say that like, they try, at least.


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[Assistant] No, well, I mean, for me personally, I just think that there is a, uhm, it's not so much that it's-


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[Assistant] And so because there's a certain perception of it, what happens is I get connected to TMZ stories that people might not like.


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[Assistant] So if, if the, if the, uh, if the website does something and it's covering, uh, uh, an important black artist or black figure in a bad way, they say, Van, how did you let that happen? And the reality is that I'm not an editorial voice at TMZ.


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[Assistant] Like, I have input. I can, I can talk to people and be influential.


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[Assistant] Uh, there are only a couple of editorial voices at TMZ.


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[Assistant] It's, it's always interesting when you have a personal brand or when you have, uh, people that look at you or look to you for a certain way.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and you are in part represented by something that you really can't control.


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[Assistant] I mean, you like, you can't control it. That's when you have to find ways to make sure that people know what it is that you really think, what it is that you really believe. And one thing I will say is,


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[Assistant] Even when all the Trump stuff was going on, uh, and TMZ was, in my opinion, uh, supportive of Donald Trump. All of those.


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[Assistant] So it wasn't like I was behind the scenes saying, yo, we're all fucked up and we're not covering this fairly. We're all fucked up and we're, like, with this guy. I was able to have those fights.


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[Assistant] But you can't, you can't, you can't turn into, you know.


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[Assistant] Al Jazeera, Z Magazine, CNN overnight, that's not what people come to you for. People come to you to learn about things that are funny and people come to you


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[Assistant] Doesn't matter what you're doing, just do it with integrity. You know, selling crack is definitely something that's negative, right?


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[Assistant] The, the way that you deal with your mistakes is to one, acknowledge them.


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[Assistant] You're selling crack, you're doing whatever it is that's wrong, whatever it was that you were doing.


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[Assistant] Now, hove wrapped for years, for years about dealing drugs.


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[Assistant] His family, it was about ownership, it was about the world as he sees it, but here's the thing about that though. It was about a whole bunch of different things.


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[Assistant] The reason why it wasn't lip service is because we've watched him actually change. He's not wearing the same shit that he was wearing in 2001, 2002. He's not eating the same shit. He's not around the same, he's got a wife, he's got a family. We've watched actual change.


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[Assistant] So, personal evolution is what leads to community evolution and message evolution. He's actually different than he used to be.


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[Assistant] That's dope. So like, he's actually different than he used to be. So because he's actually different, his message can come through authentically and it can be sort of digested authentically.


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[Assistant] So what I would, you know, to anybody that wants to undo things that they might have done in the past, man, change yourself first.


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[Assistant] To do like illegal shit. I've never been involved in anything like that. Well, that's not true. I've, I've, I've never been involved in anything to where it was for me. I've done things for friends and I've, I've helped friends out with things like that and stuff like that. But I really never really gotten involved with that. I think for me, uhm,


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[Assistant] The most destructive stage that I had was getting other people to do my shit for me.


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[Assistant] Like me. Tons of time by myself. Uh, well, because when I was, when I was, uh, when I was bigger, I wasn't confident.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? So it like, it was, so I would be in there just kinda figuring out how to like,


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[Assistant] Like, there were so many people that saw so much potential in me. And they were so, they safeguarded me so much and they loved me so much and they did so many things for me. And there was a point in my life where I didn't have a lot of ambition. I was just kind of hanging around afraid of the world. And I would use those people's love and affection.


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[Assistant] To get them to do things for me that I, that I didn't want to do for myself. To make them feel bad about enjoying themselves. And just kind of making other people feel shitty.


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[Assistant] So that I felt a little bit better about everybody else not having such a great time.


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[Assistant] You're alone. You're not tethered to anyone. You gotta really walk around and figure out how you're gonna make this place work for you.


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[Assistant] So many people that I know that came out here at the same time, I mean they've already gone back to where they're from.


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[Assistant] I wasn't strengthening my own brain. I wasn't strengthening my own mind. I wasn't strengthening my skill set. Everything about me that people thought was special was eroding.


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[Assistant] I was a grown man using my mom and my dad for bread. You know what I'm saying?


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[Assistant] When I first, when I got here, I was like, you know what man, I gotta lose weight.


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[Assistant] There's no one here that remembers times that I did shit for them. There's no one here that gives a fuck about anything. If I'ma be here in this city, I gotta be useful.


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[Assistant] And I gotta be able to make an impact and a mark based upon my skill and my talent. And if I'm gonna do that, I gotta be the best version of me I can be. Or, not even the best, a better version. So I think there was a point to where I stopped, um, uh, being


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[Assistant] Complacent. I stopped being okay with mediocrity. And since then, things have actually changed and life has been better.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's, it's, then it felt like, okay, we gotta do this now, we gotta be on top of this now, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now it's like, yo man.


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[Assistant] You know, the scale's kinda low this week, I can go ahead and peel off these apple fritters. Y'all love them fuckin' apple fritters, dawg. Apple fritters are fuckin' crazy.


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[Assistant] Bruh, I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love them, I prefer this one. Like, not now, but the consistency over weeks and weeks at a time to always do it, especially when you on the road. Like, you know, I just left a Nike thing, I drive across here, come do this, desperately wanted to come sit down with you, been listening to the podcast for a long time. So it's like, it's so many different things that you have to do.


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[Assistant] The busyness, I'm writing a book about my weight loss, right?


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[Assistant] The number one thing that stops people is a four-letter word, and that four-letter word is life.


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[Assistant] Like if, like I know, I know ladies, my manager, my manager will be very open about the fact that she,


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[Assistant] And when she's taking care of them, how you not gonna have a Capri Sun?


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like how you not gonna have some of the little Lunchables or whatever like that? It's hard. Like things get in the way. Now, when you have to do it...


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[Assistant] You'll whatever, but sometimes now taking on so much and looking at your mirror, looking at the mirror and going, man, I don't look that bad. Right. You know what I'm saying? I can't see my titties.


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[Assistant] Also something else that's very important is I made a mistake earlier when I said the best version of me. The goal is better.


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[Assistant] No, I'm like, I'm still at a point, people talk about, oh Van, you've had some success or whatever like that. I'm still at the point to where most rooms I'm in, I'm the brokeest nigga in the room.


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[Assistant] From here and from other stuff, like, from my job and from other stuff. But the guys that I'm around, especially now.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so, but if I spend time thinking about what it is that they have, if I spend time thinking about, and sometimes there's even opportunities that people are getting at, other things that people are doing, if I spend time thinking about that, it's going to derail me from the, from the vision of me that I need to have to get to where they are.


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[Assistant] Like, I lost a lot of weight. I'm never gonna be beach ready. I can be in the best shape.


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[Assistant] There are parts of my body that have forever been changed by the mile weight that I lost, right?


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? I thought, like, I thought about, you know, with the amount of time I spent in the weight room, if I, if I, if I spent two months in lean out and then whatever I go, I mean, I don't look bad, but you can see it. Like, I remember I was, at one point I was,


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[Assistant] Couple years ago when I was really on it for real, I was about 224, um,


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[Assistant] Uh, like my body fat was down to about 12%. Like I was really on it, doing my thing all the time. I go through phases like that. Phases where I get a little up, whatever. And I went for, uh, uh, um, physical.


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[Assistant] And they were putting the EKG on me, right? So they put the EKG on you and all of that stuff. I thought you gotta take your shirt off. And I remember I take the shirt off and my first thing that the nurse says to me is, oh, you lost a lot of weight, didn't you? And I'm like, damn. I thought I looked great.


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[Assistant] Yeah, she noticed it. I'm like, yeah, that was years ago. She's like, oh, I can tell by like around this area. I'm thinking to myself.


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[Assistant] And at that point, I remember thinking, damn, you know, and so I went and looked at like, I mean, you, you never feel more wanted than you do in a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon's office.


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[Assistant] They want you to be there. Right. They are nice to you. Like you, like you, you go in there, oh, come here, listen, you're gonna look.


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[Assistant] Like fucking, what's the guy from the uhm, the Guy Ritchie movie? Oh, that's Idris Elba. You're gonna look like Idris Elba.


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[Assistant] That's what they do. That's what they do. Like come here, come here. Look at this guy. You have great shoulders. Listen, this is what we're going to do. We're going to lift the muscle here. We're going to snippy. We're going to take this little skin out. There's going to be very small little cuts. Your complexion's great. You're not even going to be able to see him. Boom. After that, you're going to have, you know, that little sexy V that guys have. We're going to make sure you have that.


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[Assistant] They, and when you, when you go there for the consultation after you go there, if you don't come back and tell them, they email you.


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[Assistant] Then they start doing all of that. They stay on you. So I remember I had a lot of time to think about that. And then I was like, nah man.


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[Assistant] This is me, this is part of my story. You know what I'm saying? Like this is, like, like,


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[Assistant] I was heavy. You gonna see it. Like, it's never gonna be perfection. It's just better than what I was before.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Uhm, you know, with me and some of the stuff I've been through with my mental health and all of that stuff, uh,


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[Assistant] It was worse when I wasn't doing anything. And the more you learn about your body and the physiology of your body, you learn why. You learn why you need the sun. You learn why you need those endorphins that you get from working out. Uhm, you learn why you need your, your heart to like pump blood and stuff like that. But, uhm, I mean, there's, you know what Bennigan's is?


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[Assistant] You know, I used to crawl up the stairs because I didn't want my heart rate to jack.


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[Assistant] It was terrible. Some people would laugh. My boys thought that was the funniest shit in the world. But, so I would, uh, I would go, uh, uh, uh, I remember I left and I, we used to go to Bennigan's and I would get, um,


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[Assistant] Like a loaded mashed potato and fries and I'm like yeaah, so I would go there and I would get that.


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[Assistant] And I would, uh, on the way home I would have a shake and then I would sit at the house and I would eat. And one time I went to the Benningans and they weren't open and I cried.


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[Assistant] Like, like, like, I was 24 years old. Wow. I cried. I like, I like, I like, I go to the Binnegan's, it's not open, I remember, I drive up and, bro,


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[Assistant] The Benegans was literally right around the corner. The mall of Louisiana, people that are listening to this from Baton Rouge, they know that this is true. There was a mall of Louisiana right over there. The Best Buy was right near the mall and the Benegans, you could have probably walked there, but it was just on my way home and you would pull up and you would do the curbside thing, right? And I remember


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[Assistant] When I left work and I looked across the, the parking lot at the Binningans, I was like, yo man, yo man, why the lights off? And I was like, nah man, it's probably just like, people havin' some.


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[Assistant] Drive up, and I was, as I was driving up, the feeling of dread.


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[Assistant] That the Benningans might fucking be closed was creeping up in my fucking body. And I remember I got there and I actually got, this is pathetic, I got out and walked to the front and pulled on the door to make sure that they were closed. You know what I'm saying? And they were closed. I remember I got back in the car and I cried.


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[Assistant] Got home and I remember I went to McDonald's and I ate there. It just wasn't the same. You know what I'm saying? So like I was, and then, but I didn't even think about that until years and years later, because when, like when you're trying to build your discipline, when you're building discipline,


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[Assistant] Every single act of discipline that you successfully, uh, achieve. Begets the next one. Begets the, begets the next one. People are having cake, you go now. That feels good. Feels good? I don't know if it feels good as eating the cake.


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[Assistant] And I have been tired because of something I had to do the day before. And I'm like, you know what? I'm not going to work out.


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[Assistant] The last couple steps getting back to my place, I felt like I had fucking knocked out Deontay Wilder. I felt so fucking good.


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[Assistant] And at the end of it, you think, yo man, how was I about to pass up on this? Like, a lot of times, it's like, that was, ran four miles, that was 40 minutes. Like, it's like, put yourself through something for 40 minutes.


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[Assistant] To kind of get to where you want, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't take any time at all, but it's hard to do.


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[Assistant] I had games, bro. I had games I used to play with the people. I would go there and I would be about to finish my order and then I would get a call.


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[Assistant] I would get a call from somebody who wanted something. There was nobody.


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[Assistant] I was embarrassed to order too much stuff. There was nobody. It was like, oh shit, what you want? You want a piece of chocolate cake? Damn, it's late for that.


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[Assistant] You sure you want that? What kind of chocolate cake y'all got? Oh, they got the ooey, what you say, the ooey gooey extra chocolatey shit? You want the ooey gooey? That's a lot. You sure? I hope you eat it, baby. I love you. Bye. And you know what I'm saying? And then like, but you, you would have to do stuff like that because there was a, there's a lot of shame in that.


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[Assistant] Healthiness can become a habit, like positive. I don't think people think that, you know, positive living, positive thinking.


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[Assistant] Uh, looking at health a certain way, like looking at the gym a certain way, looking at all, I don't think that people allow those things to become habits because they don't feel as good to start.


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[Assistant] The one thing, you get as much opinion as you can. One of the funniest things that ever happened at Best Buy was there were two jacked guys that worked there in the warehouse because they put all the jacked guys in the warehouse.


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[Assistant] And so, I was like, yo, I'm really about to do it, I'm about to lose some weight. Like, what should I do?


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[Assistant] And they gave me two diametrically opposed things to do.


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[Assistant] Like, one dude was like, you should wake up in the morning and you should probably eat some chicken breasts in the morning and blah blah blah. And I said, don't do that. Wake up in the morning and get a complex carb in the morning.


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[Assistant] They, both of them do make sense. And my mother said, son, what you should, and you always go to your mama.


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[Assistant] There you go. You have your complex carb and you have your protein.


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[Assistant] That's his whole deal. That's his whole deal.


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[Assistant] Yes, this whole thing. So Chris, I'm on The Brilliant Idiots and, uh, you know, it's me and my man Andrew, sparring as we always do, loving to death. That's my guy. And so we, uh, we're on there and he goes, yo, have you ever thought about that? And then, I'm not gonna lie, that was a part of me that I thought, yo, could I do that though?


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's just you talking to somebody. Now you can't pivot, you know, when I'm on TV, it's five second bursts and I can be funny or compelling and those things, but can I do that for like a whole, a whole time?


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[Assistant] And then, uhm, we, we ended up kind of, kind of making it work and coming to a deal.


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[Assistant] I like the challenge because there's so many people that have come out on podcasts, right? And they're all, the guests have been so diverse.


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[Assistant] But everybody has something in common is that they bring a lot of shit with them. Right?


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[Assistant] But they bring it in different ways. They bring shit with them. Like, I had Tory Lanez on the podcast, right? Tory Lanez comes in, uhm,


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[Assistant] Nice guy. Great dude. But when he comes in, he's got his jewelry. He's got his entourage. He's a big rap star, right? So he's brought a lot of shit with him.


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[Assistant] So my, what I like about an interview is getting through all of that stuff to just the guy. To where now me and him just talking.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's great man. If it's him, if it's Moneybag, if it's James Prince, who was a little harder to do with Mr. Prince, but if it's, Mr. Prince been, you know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, he's been doing this thing for a long time, but whoever it is, if it's, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] Great, intelligent, uh, uh, immensely fierce woman Amanda Sills, or if it's Jamila Lamuil, or if it's Ava DuVernay, whoever it is.


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[Assistant] Getting through to the core where you can just talk to somebody and maybe somebody learn something.


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[Assistant] That's something that I really enjoy and you just can't do that in every form. You gotta have time. Sometimes you gotta have time, you build a little trust.


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[Assistant] Of equity, you start having a real convo, so I like that. And I didn't know if I was gonna be good at it at first, but it's been good so far.


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[Assistant] So yeah, with something like that, I think with something like that, when somebody's coming on in the wake of something, you want to make sure you get it addressed because either they're coming to bring clarity to what it is that they said or they're coming to clear, clean it up.


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[Assistant] Okay, uhm, in the case of Jermaine.


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[Assistant] He had said something and everybody was like, this is going to be an interview. He was going to come down, he's going to sit down, he's going to talk. I think that, uh,


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[Assistant] The only thing with him is that he said things in the interview to me that


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[Assistant] We're kind of contradictory, like, in a very small space. I think that Jermaine knows what he thinks and what he feels.


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[Assistant] He was slightly taken out of context and he was slightly misunderstood with what he said, but at the same time I do think he has some feelings about what he thinks the state of the female rap game is and I think that those feelings aren't really in line


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[Assistant] With the overall health of music, if I'm making sense, what I mean is he said in the interview that like, uh,


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[Assistant] Cool, that's fine. Your parent, you got kids, turn it off.


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[Assistant] And my question was, do you turn it off when they're talking that trap shit?


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[Assistant] I love all of those guys. GZ, Chainz, whoever from there. All of that shit. Love all of it, right?


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[Assistant] We can't say that talking about busting your pussy wide open is any different than talking about busting somebody's fucking head wide open. It's the same thing. Actually, I would say you can bust your pussy open as much as you want. Don't hurt nobody.


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[Assistant] You bust somebody head open, you took somebody from their family, don't matter how bad they were.


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[Assistant] It's judged unfairly if you ask me. You know what I'm saying? So uhm, like I've had porn stars on my, uhm, on my podcast and people go, oh Van, why are you interviewing this person? They never ask that question.


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[Assistant] About any criminals or any wha-wha-whatever that I've had on my plot cause they never ask the question. So.


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[Assistant] I think if you're gonna be a prude, be a consistent prude.


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[Assistant] Jermaine Dupree is a good man, and he's really doing his best to try to show people that he cares about enhancing the culture, which he's always done. But I think in that moment, sometimes you get to a point in an interview where someone hasn't even considered something.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like I did an interview with Glass Malone yesterday, and I'm asking Glass Malone about, um, you know, gang banging.


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[Assistant] And whether or not gangbanging is still necessary and stuff like that. And I'm all ready to.


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[Assistant] But listen to somebody that's been in it for a long time talk to you about it.


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[Assistant] And if you're not, if you're being authentic and you're not trying to come off holier than now, you just might have somebody that makes you understand their experience. And those conversations are valuable.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's definitely true. I think it's true for a couple of reasons. Number one,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think that men are very uncomfortable talking about their actual feelings about women, no matter what they are.


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[Assistant] How do I put it? Men that like to be around women that are more sexually adventurous, they're afraid.


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[Assistant] They're afraid to say that, and at the other time, uhm, there are men who are legitimately afraid of the sexual liberation of a woman, uhm, and the sexual authority that a woman can have, and then the rules are very complicated now.


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[Assistant] You can, like, everybody is lying because they don't really know what they're supposed to say.


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[Assistant] They don't know if they're supposed to say, okay, what you want from women is sexual responsibility.


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[Assistant] And for them to care about their bodies enough not to go around sleeping with everybody else.


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[Assistant] Or they don't know if there's, cause you say that and then somebody comes at you and they go.


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[Assistant] Uhm, uh, oh my god, how could you possibly say that? A woman should be able to do whatever she wants, okay? And then you go out and you say, a woman should be able to do whatever she wants. And then somebody comes at you and you go, what, you just want everybody to be out here fucking everybody?


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[Assistant] The reality is that, number one, a woman can do whatever she wants. She'll be able to do whatever she wants with her body. And it's a laughable situation that we even have conversations about what somebody can do with their own private parts. That's dumb. Whatever. But a lot of that has to do with the fact that


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[Assistant] I'ma be real with you, I didn't realize all this assault was going on. Not like this. I remember being in the office and talking to people and stuff like that. Fuck that. I remember talking to my homeboys and them being like, yo, you never just...


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[Assistant] No? See a girl in the club and you just grab her ass or whatever? I'll be like, nah, not really.


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[Assistant] They think that that was a part of like having a little fun. We all been to spring break and shit. Like, so they, they, they, they don't think that they're bad people.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean listen, the way to do this is to do something that men...


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[Assistant] It's their lives. Let them set their rules. Stop thinking about what makes sense to you. That's hard to do.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? When you have that much privilege. Anyone with privilege, it's hard to let somebody else set their rules and define who they are.


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[Assistant] She said she don't want to be talked to like that, don't talk to her like that. She said she doesn't like this energy, don't give her that energy. You thought it was cool, you were wrong. It's all good, move on.


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[Assistant] It's like, I mean, I really don't understand. Like, relax. Like, I posted a video on Instagram, right? And that video I thought was funny.


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[Assistant] This girl, uh, I guess they were at a Trinidadian party or something like that. And she was winding that shit up real nice. And some dude tried to come behind her and she turned around and she was like, she didn't curse him out or smack his face or do anything. She turned around and smiled at him and was like, no.


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[Assistant] So it's, it's like so many times that's like cultural thing, right? It happens all the time, right? People, that's how people dance. Not only in that part of the world, but where I'm from or whatever. But this particular time this lady went, I don't want somebody to grab me on my ass. No, no, no, no, none for you. I thought that was funny because that's a great curve.


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[Assistant] Everybody needs a great curve in their life. You're not doing your thing out here with ladies if you haven't been curved viciously a couple times. Figure out the limits. You figure out the limits, right? I was surprised at how many guys


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[Assistant] In the comments were like, yo, well if she didn't want a nigga grinding her ass, why she shaking her ass?


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[Assistant] It's just wild, man. I'm not about to go off on a soapbox and make it seem like I don't understand how sexual dynamics can get confused and whatever. But I'm just saying, it always surprises me, like, how stuff like that goes. Is her ass. Is her body. Is her mind.


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[Assistant] You don't have no rights to any of it. If she decides that she wants, uhm, to let you share in it for however long it is, then that's you. My dad had a saying.


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[Assistant] This is gonna sound a little crass, but this might've shaped my world. I'm sure people in the South have heard this around. He would be like, yo.


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[Assistant] You guys around here trying to claim these little girls and stuff like that, you'd be like, remember, it's not your pussy, it's your turn.


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[Assistant] And your turn will last as long as she deems it fit that you are putting in the requisite amount of work and that you're doing something. It's like, I've been with your mama X amount of years. If I ever get complacent, it's going to be somebody else's turn. So earn your turn. It's not you. Nobody belongs to you.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like, people stay with you as long as, like, you're making them happy and fulfilling them. I just think that men feel, I mean, obviously we do, I mean, this is all stuff that, none of this is groundbreaking, but we just feel a little too entitled. Just, it's not even about, don't feel bad about yourself, it's not a big deal, just relax.


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[Assistant] Cry and, you know, like, get all upset about it and hate women, just relax.


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[Assistant] Yeah, sometimes you take stock in yourself.


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[Assistant] Like, it's like, you know, a lot of these guys, like really, like Harvey Weinstein.


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[Assistant] He knew exactly what he was doing. And even some of these other guys, these guys know, these guys know that they're powerful and they have this influence. If fucking Brad Pitt was running a joint or somebody even swagged out, somebody even swagger was running a joint, it might be a little bit different.


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[Assistant] But you have to take stock in yourself and know.


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[Assistant] This woman probably doesn't want you. And if you wanna try to make an impression, then


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[Assistant] There are ways to do that that are inappropriate, and there are ways to do that that are inappropriate. Sometimes you shouldn't do it.


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[Assistant] But, I think that there's a conversation to be had, and it's a conversation to be had with women about


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[Assistant] How they want to be approached. What is appropriate, what's not appropriate.


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[Assistant] You know, where I'm from, yo, hey Redbone, come here. That was appropriate for a long time. You know what I'm saying? Yo, yo, yo, backpack, backpack, real shorts, real shorts, come here. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that was appropriate.


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[Assistant] Nah man, hip hop means a lot to me. I think that hip hop was like one of the first things that was mine.


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[Assistant] That I felt like it was mine, right? So like, all the music that I was on growing up.


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[Assistant] I loved it, but it was really my parents' music. It was what they were connected to.


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[Assistant] You know, prints and all of that. And then when hip hop came along, this was for me. I mean, I remember I was like five or six and like kids on the bus were talking about LL and like,


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[Assistant] I was literally in elementary school and then I started listening to it and so I grew, I grew with hip hop.


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[Assistant] I was born in 1980, so I grew with hip hop. I grew up with it. And everything that it threw at me, I tried it. I tried. I've been through every phase of hip hop. Every phase. I've tried it all. I've listened to it all, right?


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[Assistant] Listen to the native tongues, when they were poppin'. I was on my ex-clan shit. I was on my, my Rakim shit. I was on my, just, all of it. My KR is one of my Big Daddy Kane, and then...


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[Assistant] The chore in hip hop right now is to really listen to good music that you don't relate to at all.


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[Assistant] I'm not, don't get paid from them. But that's why I like Tidal. Cause like Tidal just curates the playlist.


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[Assistant] I mean when I say I can't understand it, sometimes I can't understand.


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[Assistant] You don't even have to understand Thug, his voice is kind of like an instrument, but like, uhm, let me see, I'm trying to think, uh, like I love Gunna.


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[Assistant] My favorite Gunna song is Speed It Up. I don't know if Gunna is saying anything in Speed It Up.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? I don't know if Speed It Up has lyrics. Like, I don't- Speed It Up?


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[Assistant] The only way that I kind of get to these artists is about knowing that there's good music out there that's resonating with people for some reason and I gotta check it out. Other than that, like music that still twists my soul up.


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[Assistant] When I listen to Griselda, when I listen to Benny and them, when I listen to those guys, when I listen to the Dreamville Cats, when I listen to IDK, when I listen to Adam Dallas, when I listen to all of those guys, like those are the guys to me that


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[Assistant] I really get deep into Freddie Gibbs. Like I'm like, I'm straight up, like this is the shit, these are the people that's like really talking to me. Uhm, but, uh, there's so much great music. These kids are so creative, bro.


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[Assistant] They're so creative, but it's almost like doing work sometimes now.


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[Assistant] Take a Friday and Saturday and you try to keep it like, the shit that y'all was on when I came in here, I don't know what the fuck that shit is.


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[Assistant] A lot, you know, a lot of these guys, man, you just, you just, people just keep talking about them.


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[Assistant] Like, if you go on ACK shit, like ACK, cause all of these guys are on ACK, like I didn't know, for a long time, I would not listen to anything that 6ix9ine put out just because it looks so weird. Like, you know what I mean? It looks so weird, even God rest his dead, even with uhm, with uh, with X, it just, it looks so weird.


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[Assistant] Underrated. Nobody talks about it. Like, like nobody talks about it. Ridiculous. Like, y'all think Wayne is a god. Y'all think y'all heard peak Wayne.


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[Assistant] Peek Wayne, when Wayne was a little murderer, a little killer.


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[Assistant] On this. You know, Wayne can rap. Wayne can always rap. People gonna freak out when I say this. It's gonna be like, yo man Wayne, no ceilings and all of this stuff like this.


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[Assistant] Wayne with those guys, rapping like a kid, rapping amongst a bunch of grown men, you can hear the talent spilling through your speakers. It's ridiculous.


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[Assistant] The, the little sound effects and shit like that, I got diamonds on my neck, bling, and he was just doing the whole, he was just creative. He was creative, you know what I'm saying? So, uh, that one, uh, Rakim, the 18th letter. I know that's later Rakim, a lot of people not gonna fuck with that, but that's like, for some reason, just where I was, that, that really do grab me. And, uh, P, ghetto D.


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[Assistant] To, uh, to, to 400 degrees, honorable mention to Richie Rich, season vet, honorable mention to...


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[Assistant] Uh, so many of those different things and those honorable mentions, everything Pac did, all of that, uh, but.


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[Assistant] Well I didn't know if I was gonna be, well one day I was gonna be the President of the United States, the next day I was gonna be...


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[Assistant] Uh, off guard, the NBA, it was just like, it was, and the, the melodies and the music and the beats, you could just, the authenticity is just there. I listen to that, oh shit, all the time. It's hard to find it sometimes, but I listen to it.


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[Assistant] Those are real rhythms of Bat Rouge and New Orleans.


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[Assistant] And, you know, that's real shit. Like, that's where I'm from, so.


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[Assistant] Boosie has never not been famous. Really? Never. Wow. Went to high school with Boosie. Shout out McKinley High, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Not only Boosie went there, but Kevin Gates went there too. I'm just having a hard time.


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[Assistant] Like he came on campus as this little dude that everybody already loved.


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[Assistant] By the way, I'll tell y'all something that y'all might not know about Boosie. Boosie could really hoop. Really?


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[Assistant] Like Boosie could really play ball. He is the smallest dude I've ever seen be effective on a basketball court. Like not, like varsity. Like Boosie could play. Boosie would get in there, do his thing, like little small dude, like look like he was...


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[Assistant] Heavin' the ball at the basket. Because shoot it could do everything. But uhm, yeaah. And then I remember I left and went away to college. And...


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[Assistant] Cause I don't think, I think something happened at McKinley. I don't think Boosie was around that much, but like I think something happened either his 10th or 11th grade year. He could probably tell a story. I'm not going to speak for him, but uhm, and then I came back and they were like, yo, Boosie rapping.


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[Assistant] Then after he was with CeeLo, he got with, uh, with Turk and Mel and then boom, he was outta here. So, but he always had that. He's a star.


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[Assistant] You fuck with his music? Yea, I love him. Yea, he's dope. Like he's a star. Yea. And wild, like dudes from back home. That's, you see, you listen to Boosie and Webby.


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[Assistant] That's real bad rouge. Young boy and them I love, I'm not as, like, they way younger than me. Right. So, you know, I don't know how the city has changed.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean the reality is, you know, he talked to her in that interview, he talked about feeling like he a target in Banrooj. He gotta feel like he a target in LA when he come out here.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean look, he's like a real dude, man. Like a real, real dude. They tried to job him down there in Baton Rouge, but like, he is the guy that kind of, um, that really put


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[Assistant] We had guys before, I don't wanna be disrespectful, but obviously Boosie's the guy that put Batarouge on the map map as far as rap is concerned. Then Way B was right there with him the whole trail. Boosie's the one that kinda...


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[Assistant] That's a great question, man. Uhm, I think what has me motivated is just the uncertainty of it all. It's been a long time since I didn't know what I was capable of.


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[Assistant] Like you get into a situation where you work in a day job and you go in there every day and you know what's expected.


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[Assistant] And then all of a sudden something happens for you, and people start listening. And then you start thinking, you know, what do I really have to say?


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[Assistant] Right, so you're thinking about that, and then you're thinking about seriously.


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[Assistant] The reality of, of, of maybe having a life that really changes something.


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[Assistant] And not in a, when I say change in something, I don't mean in a Say the Wells, you know, like type of corny way. I mean like, you know.


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[Assistant] What, what really means something to you? Like who are you? Like what, like what are you? What are you, what do you really give a fuck about?


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[Assistant] Like you've been a wind-up toy for so long, right? And you've been talking about different things. Now that people are listening, what do you give a fuck about? How do you want to not just inform people, but entertain them?


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[Assistant] How do you want people to feel? How do you want people around you to feel? Like what is it that you want to do? I just think figuring that out and knowing that there's some power behind that is a dope ass time.


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[Assistant] I'm saying I got to go, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, to a Nike event and talk to 30 of the best players. These guys are going to the NBA, 30 of the best players in the country earlier today.


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[Assistant] And while everybody else is talking to these kids about basketball, I just wanted to make sure that they were investing into their own humanity. That they were becoming something different.


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[Assistant] And to be able to actually tell those kids that, you know, there's people out here that care about you, that need you, and that need you to be happy people.


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[Assistant] Well, commodifying yourself and your brand and all of that shit like that, we want y'all to be happy people. We want y'all to be well-evolved people. It just makes you feel like you out here doing something.


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[Assistant] Reality is that, in a weird way, I gotta thank Kanye for that opportunity. Right. You know? I really do. Because, first of all, there's no animus between me and him. At all.


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[Assistant] What I will say is, that was the first time that I realized that. And the reason why I realized that is everybody that watches that clip, pay attention to something in that clip.


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[Assistant] He says what he says, turns around and he asks that question. When I start talking to him, he's listening.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Uhm, he's listening. He's listening to me.


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[Assistant] So my voice matters. Even though I've been on TV all of these years, my voice matters. He's listening to me. Me and him are the same. He's no different. Flesh, bone, blood. I'm talking to him, he's listening.


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[Assistant] That's it. To me that's a mandate. Not because Kanye West is so important, but it's a mandate because there are things that I say that people no matter what want to hear and some things that they need to hear, I just gotta make sure that I keep pushing myself in the right direction to give them the right information.


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[Assistant] Yeah, absolutely. I'm just, there's people that do that all the time with me. It's like, yo, man, will you, will you put my resume through the TMZ? Well, yeah, since you asked.


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying? Like, Van, will you do this one? Yea, since you asked. I mean, nah, my DM's gonna go crazy, but, but, but, but yea, nah, you know, a guy like that, plus, look, know who you are. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you got, sometimes, that's the one thing I would say to everybody, know who the fuck you are.


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[Assistant] People are important and they have reverence for different reasons, but they're here for their reasons and you're here for yours.


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[Assistant] I mean yea, the real with that is that, you know, that is a part of who I am. It's like, it, like, the only thing that I wasn't...


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[Assistant] I was surprised that, was that he was so, he was taking the time to let it digest. Cause in the newsroom, in that newsroom, Harvey runs TMZ. Me and Harvey go back and forth all the time. It's his shot. And me and him go back. So like, in that place, that's a away game for everybody else. I'm at work. I come here every day.


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[Assistant] So, like, I felt completely comfortable. And really, to be honest with you, I'ma be real with you, while I'm from Baton Rouge, like the guys that y'all see from Baton Rouge, we are like that for a certain reason.


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[Assistant] Timid men. Timid people. We, that's how we do it. Like we, like that's, that's a Baton Rouge thing.


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[Assistant] Even if you disagree, I'm going to pay you the proper respect. Always. Always going to pay you the proper respect. I'm going to say, listen, everything that you've gotten, you deserve. You're a genius. You deserve all of this. This is what we going through though.


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[Assistant] Like, I believe that if the proper respect, I just don't know how people be so wild disrespectful nowadays. That's the one thing that I don't get. How you see the baby shopping.


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[Assistant] And you see, I don't get like, I don't get how people are so wild, disrespectful and don't expect things, bad things to happen to them. Like nobody's going to tap your jaw. Like you're not going to get that karma to come back to you just for all of this stuff. That's, that's really weird to me.


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[Assistant] Because whatever I do, whatever disagreement I have with you, whatever sort of issue I have with you,


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[Assistant] And sincerely get my point across to you. I'm not trying to sun you. I'm not trying to dominate you. I just want to make you, make you, make you understand where I'm coming from.


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[Assistant] Like what? What was the first arrest? The first time you were suspended from school?


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[Assistant] Hush little baby, don't say a word.


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[Assistant] Now at the time, the Spanish National Police did not identify anybody to those prints, so they sent the prints to Interpol, who then forwarded them to the FBI.


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[Assistant] The examiner analyzed the prints. He ran them through the system.


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[Assistant] Well there's going to be, I think, variability anytime there's a human involved in the process.


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[Assistant] If you're asking me if I think that there is the potential, uh, for cognitive bias to come into play in a fingerprint examination process, I would, I would say yes.


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[Assistant] I certainly wouldn't say 100% certain or zero error rate. I would want to explain any of those things if I was asked about them.


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[Assistant] This is a story about the price many women pay to keep those jobs and to keep food on our tables.


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[Assistant] They have lived in the shadows, unheard and unseen until now.


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[Assistant] For the past year, we've been investigating the sexual abuse of female farm workers. It's a story that has gone virtually unreported, in part because women simply feared to speak out.


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[Assistant] Maricruz Ladino was among the first to agree to appear on camera.


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[Assistant] Female farm workers have been abused for generations.


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[Assistant] Until 1995, there was no government agency that made the plight of female farmworkers a priority.


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[Assistant] Then Bill Tamayo went to work in San Francisco for the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the EEOC.


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[Assistant] So Tamayo set out to investigate and prosecute cases.


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[Assistant] Tamayo and the EEOC could not bring criminal charges against perpetrators, but they could sue a perpetrator's employer.


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[Assistant] And in 2002, they did. In a landmark case.


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[Assistant] The EEOC versus Harris Farms was the first case of rape in the fields to go to trial.


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[Assistant] Harris Farms is one of the biggest agribusinesses in the country. Headquartered in Fresno County, it sprawls across California's Central Valley.


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[Assistant] And it's almond orchards stretch for miles.


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[Assistant] One summer afternoon, a Harris Farms worker named Olivia Tamayo says that a supervisor ordered her to get into his truck.


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[Assistant] Olivia testified she was raped by Rodriguez three times. Once in an almond grove, again while she was on her way to work, and once when Rodriguez forced his way into her home.


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[Assistant] Willie Smith was brought on as a trial attorney in the case.


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[Assistant] He's one of the few private attorneys who represents farm workers in sexual harassment cases.


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[Assistant] The jury agreed and awarded damages to Olivia. Harris appealed and lost again.


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[Assistant] We found John Harris, the CEO of Harris Farms on a press tour.


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[Assistant] We tracked down the Rene Rodriguez at his home in South Texas.


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[Assistant] The Fresno County Sheriff said, I don't have an answer.


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[Assistant] Two years after the Olivia Tamayo verdict, the EEOC would start investigating what would become one of its biggest cases.


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[Assistant] It took place here in the Yakima Valley in Washington State.


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[Assistant] The center of the nation's multi-billion dollar apple industry.


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[Assistant] The case was against one of the largest apple growers in the country, Evans Fruit, whose orchards blank at the Yakima Valley.


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[Assistant] Evans produces hundreds of millions of apples every year, employing thousands of seasonal laborers.


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[Assistant] The person at the center of the case was the longtime foreman of Evans Fruit's rattlesnake ranch, Juan Marin.


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[Assistant] Women workers at Evans Fruit say that Juan Marin's sexual harassment had been an open secret for decades. But they were too afraid to speak out against their foreman.


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[Assistant] In the summer of 2006, a mother brought her 15-year-old daughter to work at Evans Fruit.


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[Assistant] According to Angela Mendoza, Juan Marin's harassment escalated until one day she caught him groping her daughter.


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[Assistant] Angela and Jacqueline quit and filed complaints with the EEOC against Evans Fruit.


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[Assistant] Over the next four years, as the EEOC investigation continued, women in the Yakima Valley began coming forward, one by one.


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[Assistant] The women accused Juan Marino of propositioning them for sex, assaulting them in his truck and attempted rape.


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[Assistant] But we found him pruning in an orchard in the Yakima Valley.


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[Assistant] In all, 26 women would add their names to the EEOC lawsuit against Juan Marin's employer, Evans Fruit.


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[Assistant] The case would go to trial in the spring of 2013.


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[Assistant] Back in Salinas, California, Mari Cruz Ladino continued to work in the fields after she was assaulted. She was considering pursuing her own case, but was worried about the consequences.


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[Assistant] And that fear extends into America's heartland, where our investigation led us to one of the nation's largest egg processing operations.


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[Assistant] Where we discovered there was sexual violence at a company with a long history of problems with the law.


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[Assistant] Jack DeCoster operated egg facilities across the country.


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[Assistant] And every year, billions of DeCoster eggs made it to market.


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[Assistant] This undercover footage documents DeCoster's defiance of animal cruelty regulations.


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[Assistant] Treated so badly that at one point the Mexican government sued DeCoster on behalf of its citizens for its horrendous working conditions.


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[Assistant] Robert Reich was Secretary of Labor under President Clinton.


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[Assistant] He became deeply involved in the investigation


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[Assistant] Paul Schultz was the sheriff of Wright County, Iowa, and he became very familiar with DeCoster.


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[Assistant] When immigration patrols reached Wright County, DeCoster managers took steps to hide their illegal workforce.


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[Assistant] DeCoster supervisors locked up the workers for days on end. And people in the community began to notice.


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[Assistant] Workers had been calling their families saying they couldn't leave.


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[Assistant] Albert's took matters into her own hands, confronting the plant manager.


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[Assistant] It was this trust that would unlock DeCoster's deepest secret.


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[Assistant] Her law firm specializes in immigration issues and cases of violence against women.


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[Assistant] It really isn't any surprise that it would be unusual for someone to come in who was undocumented and tell you about a crime back then, because you guys were also known for grabbing them and helping immigration. It's our job to do both. Then that puts you in a kind of an impossible situation, doesn't it?


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[Assistant] And they're afraid of the federal government. They're afraid of being deported. Right. Could you do anything about that?


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[Assistant] Congress had just passed the U visa program enacted to protect immigrant victims of crime from being deported.


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[Assistant] The women from DeCoster would be the first in the country to apply for U visas. But first they would have to cooperate with law enforcement, which meant telling their stories to Sheriff Schultz.


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[Assistant] Dennis McBride read their statements from the police report.


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[Assistant] So, how come no criminal charges?


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[Assistant] The Justice Department did indict Ricardo Renteria not for sexual assault, but on immigration charges.


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[Assistant] According to the U.S. Marshals, Rentaria is still a fugitive.


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[Assistant] At his last known address, his mother told us he was living in Mexico City.


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[Assistant] In the end, we found Renteria. Not in Mexico, but on Facebook.


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[Assistant] Where he counts among his friends members of the DeCoster family.


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[Assistant] We made repeated attempts to try and reach the DeCoster's. They never responded.


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[Assistant] But they did respond when the EEOC sued them.


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[Assistant] DeCoster settled the case and the women were awarded 1.3 million dollars. But DeCoster denied any wrongdoing.


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[Assistant] She was shocked by the working conditions she found in this country.


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[Assistant] In 2008, Paris began to hear rumors that federal agents were mobilizing near the town of Postville, Iowa.


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[Assistant] The raid would highlight a key question. Should federal authorities treat abused, undocumented workers as victims or criminals?


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[Assistant] The raid would make headlines as the largest immigration roundup in U.S. history at a single site.


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[Assistant] What was not reported in the media was the extent of the sexual abuse inside the plant.


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[Assistant] Over two dozen women and underage girls came forward alleging sexual harassment, assault, or rape. But according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement,


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[Assistant] Their agents did not ask any of the detainees if they had been victims of abuse.


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[Assistant] No criminal charges for sexual violence were ever brought against the alleged perpetrators in Postville.


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[Assistant] A pattern that has repeated itself across the country.


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[Assistant] Sexual assault cases are difficult to prosecute.


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[Assistant] And the Justice Department estimates that two-thirds are never even reported.


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[Assistant] There are no reliable statistics on sexual violence in the fields, and few reports.


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[Assistant] One by Human Rights Watch concluded that women in the fields face a significant risk of sexual violence.


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[Assistant] Manuel Cunha is one of the few representatives of agribusiness who would talk with us.


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[Assistant] Is there sexual harassment, violence going on in the agricultural fields here in California?


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[Assistant] You know Dolores Huerta, you know who she is? Yes. Okay. Can I read you something she said?


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[Assistant] Okay, she says that this sexual harassment that we're talking about is an epidemic in the fields.


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[Assistant] Representatives of agribusiness say to us,


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[Assistant] and described multiple incidents of sexual harassment by Evans's foreman Juan Marin and other crew leaders.


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[Assistant] I'm just going to read to you a couple of things that women said under oath. Okay? So Magdalena Alvarez, she says,


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[Assistant] And he started grabbing me, grabbing my private parts. He started touching my breasts, put his hands on my legs, and I moved them away. And he put them back on my legs. And then she goes on.


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[Assistant] And on and on, and this is under oath. You know, she's testifying.


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[Assistant] Evans Fruit denied any knowledge of or responsibility for the alleged misconduct by Juan Marin.


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[Assistant] After weeks of testimony, the jury unanimously ruled in favor of Evans fruit.


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[Assistant] Concluding that according to the evidence, none of the women had been subjected to sexual harassment.


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[Assistant] We discovered that Juan Marin had previously been accused of sexually assaulting a female worker.


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[Assistant] This is from 1993. Oh my goodness.


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[Assistant] We did a search of the files here in Yakima, and here's a complaint.


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[Assistant] Mr. Marin moved his hand up to her left breast, squeezing it. But you don't remember this.


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[Assistant] Never have. You don't remember the police coming to talk to you about it?


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[Assistant] The jury also did not hear Jacqueline's story, the young woman who first brought the case with her mother. Jacqueline was murdered in an unrelated incident.


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[Assistant] The judge dropped her from the case, along with her mother, Angela Mendoza.


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[Assistant] She says you were harassing her daughter.


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[Assistant] You say that Angela Mendoza misunderstood.


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[Assistant] She says that you asked her for her daughter?


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[Assistant] There was something going on, but they were looking the other way.


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[Assistant] They left the management, for instance, of the rattlesnake ranch in Sunnyside to a man who was


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[Assistant] Evans would institute a sexual harassment policy, even though it is not required in Washington State.


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[Assistant] In fact, only three states require that supervisors receive sexual harassment training.


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[Assistant] As for Danelia Barajas and Cecilia Lua, they are still suing Juan Marín personally.


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[Assistant] For many women, fear continues in the fields.


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[Assistant] Mari Cruz Ladino was one of the few who had the courage to sue her employer.


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[Assistant] And after four long years, she settled her lawsuit.


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[Assistant] I think fingerprint evidence is accepted in the United States. I think it is a rare case when they get it wrong and, you know, the critics can scream all they want.


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[Assistant] Nobody ever asked me about the hundreds of thousands of cases every year where it does work and where good forensic scientists testify. We get it right most of the time.


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[Assistant] The Mayfield case is the anomaly. It is the rare.


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[Assistant] Exception and to hold that up as somehow representative of what goes on in courtrooms across America is just wrong.


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[Assistant] Uhm, for Mr. Neufeld to say, well, lawyers are stupid and judges are stupid, so we shouldn't admit this evidence, uh, is stupid. That's ridiculous.


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[Assistant] It really is. When you bring a piece of evidence into a court of law,


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[Assistant] Uh, good women and good men that are trained as judges weigh the evidence. Juries.


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[Assistant] Can look people in the eye, and they can determine whether or not, uh, they trust it. And that's our system.


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[Assistant] My big brother, and my younger brother. He's my boyfriend, Chung Shulan.


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[Assistant] You don't understand. Artwork requires inspiration to create sculptures.


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[Assistant] Based on what? Who gave you the right to criticize the lifestyle I have?


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[Assistant] I go to the dentist if I have a toothache. There are good dentists!


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[Assistant] I don't hate you at all. It's just that... my life is doing great right now.


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[Assistant] After we graduated from high school, it didn't become traumatic for me. Even when you left me alone to go with your own families.


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[Assistant] Sure. I was a little mad at you guys when you didn't come back as promised. But it's okay. I understand. You don't owe me anything. That's why you don't have to make it up to me. What you're doing now only puts pressure on me.


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[Assistant] It's all in the past. Do you still want me to follow you like a little girl?


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[Assistant] I already told Hussie Cha, he's just overreacting. Online dating is common


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[Assistant] Hey Li Zhenzhen, tell us why did you bring Ren to meet your parent on your very first date?


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[Assistant] Ran said that he was going to meet you at the cafe, but because of his inspiration, he just left?


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[Assistant] Honestly, I've always suspected that she couldn't tell. What is the only thing that she even cared about? Of course she couldn't tell the difference.


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[Assistant] Love at first sight and love against the world? What are you talking about? Slowly but surely is the right way. Just like my parents. They started with a blind date and they liked each other after that. That's when they thought they're suitable for marriage. They had a pretty good life. Anyway, the two of us are just …


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[Assistant] Yes, but it wasn't really that bad. My dad became my father and my mother.


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[Assistant] After you cleaned it last time, I couldn't find my things.


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[Assistant] Ma'am, I only buy clothes because I need it for my job.


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[Assistant] Why did you buy fruits again? Imported cherries? Your brother bought them.


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[Assistant] This man is annoyingly outrageous. After the parents meeting, I took his son out to be nice. I even paid for the game currency. I also spent money to buy him KFC.


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[Assistant] You'll make it if you leave at 10.30. I'll go to the studio right after my appointment. I'll be earlier.


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[Assistant] Oh, I've seen her only a few times. Hey, your brother— Xixi, later I have a date. Will the dental procedure take long? No, it won't take long.


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[Assistant] Yes I am. All of us just grew up together since we were young. We're not blood related.


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[Assistant] Of course not! It's because when we were little, I was almost kidnapped in front of my older brother Xiao. It haunted him for so long, he gets nervous about me easily.


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[Assistant] You have to thank Ling Xiao in helping for saving your daughter today.


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[Assistant] It's too early, it's only 7am, I just got up. Jenjen may get up at 8.


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[Assistant] You're up? Wow, we have bread for breakfast? Looks yummy, right?


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[Assistant] Personally, I don't blame him and Ling Xiao.


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[Assistant] I think Rand is kind of weird online too. You suddenly decided to meet in person, then all of the sudden we couldn't reach you. I was worried!


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[Assistant] Remember Lingshao was very protective of her during high school days? Now she's dating a guy from the internet. No wonder he's worried.


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[Assistant] Are you sure you don't have EQ problems? Ah, Li Zhenzhen. You're now dating this guy from the internet. How are you feeling?


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[Assistant] It feels great! Let's just say we have so many things in common. Well, when you see him, does your heart beat faster than ever? Were you nervous bringing him to your dad and worried that he may dislike him?


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[Assistant] I knew it, you're not really in love with that guy. Jenjen, if you like someone, how can you bring him to see your parents for the first time you meet each other? It's like you're asking for a disaster. You were insane for dating online. She doesn't even know what's the difference between liking someone as a friend and liking someone romantically.


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[Assistant] Mom, can we talk about something? Sure. I know it's unstable not having a regular job. The thing is...


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[Assistant] Zucho came so early at 6am this morning. He left after cooking breakfast. He's like a slave from the past. What's wrong with you two?


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[Assistant] Hey, eat your breakfast. You have a dental nerve extraction.


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[Assistant] One young lady, she said, their parents haven't been home for three days. They went to work and they never came back. And I asked them, well, where are they? And, uh, she said, well, I am communicating with my mom on the phone. They're at the plants.


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[Assistant] Sleeping in cardboard boxes and they've been feeding them scrambled eggs.


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[Assistant] I said I came to pick up the women and if you don't shut those machines off, I'm calling the police. So he shut the machines off and I told the girls, let's go. And uhm, they walked out and I piled them in my van.


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[Assistant] I said, should we get the police involved? And she said, no we can't.


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[Assistant] Then this lady from the Crisis Intervention, she said, I know a lawyer that can help us.


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[Assistant] When we first got here, we were patted on our backs and great, the Calvary has arrived.


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[Assistant] I think all 87 came here with the idea to change Washington. There was a tremendous amount of energy when we first got here.


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[Assistant] In Baltimore, we were kind of laying out the plan and what we were going to have to tackle over the course of the next Congress, over the course of the next two years.


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[Assistant] In other words, look guys, as a team, we recognize that this is a leverage point. Trust us and we're going to use it.


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[Assistant] So that you fulfill your campaign promises.


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[Assistant] Well, Paul Ryan's a very talented person. From a budget perspective and a number crunching perspective, uh, he gets it. He built a budget.


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[Assistant] Today what you see, uh, is now that we've broken you up.


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[Assistant] I was just runnin' my place, I ain't give a fuck. Feel me? And we gon', uh, what we got next up? Cervatoy, we gon' beat that head in. Phoenix, we gon' beat they head in.


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[Assistant] It's a great feeling, man. I can't, uhm, I'm grateful for everything, man. I appreciate all the energy. I appreciate everybody fucking with the All Black campaign. The whole Playrunners Association campaign, man. Real shit. I'm just surprised. I'm grateful.


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[Assistant] You feel me? Don't nobody owe me shit. You feel me? And I'm just happy to be in this motherfucker. I'm happy to beat up the dice, man. Real shit.


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[Assistant] You know, I don't care about selling a record, man. I'm not hopping off wax till I tell my story. If you really want to know about a real, uh, lethal weapon, a hidden secret from the West Coast, I go by the name of All Black, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I ain't, I ain't cut no corners, I ain't taken no shorts.


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[Assistant] I mean, I ain't taking nothing from nobody. You know, at the end of the day, I'm familiar with the East Coast, I'm familiar with the South. I done ran plays that have been to 48 states, you feel me? So I got a whole, a whole, what, a lunch bag full of game, you feel me?


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[Assistant] Oh, but you haven't talked for so long.


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[Assistant] They had this idea that they'd give this speech a powerful, full-throated defense of, of, of his view of the fiscal situation.


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[Assistant] President Obama and John Boehmer went to the country and said, you decide.


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[Assistant] What is it you want us to do here? Who do you agree with? And the country basically said, you guys decide. The voters didn't resolve this issue.


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[Assistant] Banner's at the White House and he says, I'm giving you $800 billion in tax revenue, what do I get for it? And the president says nothing. And what the president meant was,


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[Assistant] You already had put that on the table before. I won the election. That's not a concession. You need to come further to me than that. That's the starting point. That's the ante.


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[Assistant] He wants to be speaker and he's looking for ways to achieve that, uh, uh, while shaping the nature and the future of the Republican Party.


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[Assistant] If you're happy and you know it And you really wanna show it If you're happy and you know it Stomp your feet!


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[Assistant] We all saw the debt ceiling as the best lever we had to make some changes, to deal with the spending problem, to deal with the big government problem.


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[Assistant] Many of the new Republicans were outraged. The Speaker has had a tendency to shut the door and get on the phone or go behind closed doors with his staff usually. And that's a bad way to make a decision. And I don't think it helps anybody. I don't think the best decisions are made by Washington elites behind closed doors.


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[Assistant] Politics as usual petty, vindictive politics and it was an attempt to consolidate power and continue to centralize decision making in the U.S. House.