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[Assistant] Bauer more disliked than Chapman, and I think Chapman's a lousy guy too, uh, but also Bauer spurned the Mets.


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[Assistant] I say absolutely. Somebody will bring him in. Yep. Well, there you go. The hubbub, just like with Watson, most of the hubbub goes away.


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[Assistant] For the most part, as good as he could have been, because physical tools, I remember coming out of college, seeing him, and in the minors, I was like, this guy is phenomenal, but I think he's, he is very sensitive. He tries to pretend he's all tough and he's, and he is, but he's very sensitive.


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[Assistant] But Trevor Bauer is way more talented than Baker Mayfield in the end.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, he has to be the guy. I think 10s, 10s specifically is an irrelevant number. I think there's like 6 or 7, depends on the year. I think there's anywhere from like 4 to 7 or 8 elite tier quarterbacks. And he's gotta be, even if he's the last guy in that tier, he's gotta be in that tier. You call yourself the


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[Assistant] I'm out. That's it. Done. Yeah, I was like, I gotta go. Final takes. Final takes, Bull, you're up first. Alright, I'm gonna do more about the Guardians here. You know, it's been an interesting offseason for the first time in a number of years. This is more big picture baseball before I specifically get to the Guardians.


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[Assistant] Now with Correa signed, there's no big free agents left on the market.


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[Assistant] Small picture, there are some interesting guys out there. Now I think the guardians are probably done adding significant pieces, but I'm going to remain hopeful. And there's


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, uh, an A plus way we can end this offseason for the guardians and then a B way and then an F way, uh, which is do nothing else. Now I'm not giving them an F for the whole offseason, but I'm saying the rest of the way. Now the A plan is two blockbuster trades by the guardians.


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[Assistant] Where you're not spending a ton of money because both of these guys that I'm saying to trade for are under team control for a number of years and you have the prospects to get both of them. The Guardians have one of the best farm systems in all of Major League Baseball.


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[Assistant] And they have a lot of young players already in the big leagues. How about two trades? Pablo Lopez of the Marlins.


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[Assistant] And Brian Reynolds of the Pirates. Two teams that are playing for the future. A great young hitter with three years of team control. And I believe Lopez has three years of team control as a pitcher. You would add Lopez to Bieber and McKenzie. You would add Reynolds to what they already got in the outfield. And bolt those guys under control the next few years.


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[Assistant] How about you trade for Carlos Carrasco, you bring him back, wouldn't cost me much to get him, because the Mets, whose payroll is so high, are looking to just get rid of his salary at this point. And then sign Trey Mancini, who is actually probably the best free agent still out there. A good player to put into that first base DH mix with Naylor and Bell.


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[Assistant] That would still be some good additions. In the end, I'm not confident they're gonna do any of those moves, but I'd like to see that happen. What do you think about Lopez


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[Assistant] These guys aren't those guys. They're not giving up all those guys. You know, we keep thinking the Guardians have to give up everybody. The A's got nothing in that Sean. They didn't get any elite prospects in that Sean Murphy. No, I was disappointed.


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[Assistant] Tyvers. No, it's Tyvers' fault. Tyvers! Dammit!


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[Assistant] No, it's, it's really nobody's fault. It is, uh, it was a technical glitch. Uhm, our incredible engineering staff here, Steve, figured out a workaround and, uh, you know, here we are. Uh, we apologize for being late, but we're gonna make the show worth your while today because we've got a lot on the, on the, on the docket.


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[Assistant] Who is the right guy? If we don't get the right guy, would be, would we be satisfied with maybe the second choice or the third choice? We'll go into all of that. Maurice Claret will be here and Joe Varden, who is the, uh, I guess is an official


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[Assistant] Title is NBA writer for the athletic, right? He covers the association. Not just a certain team. He's just all things NBA.


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[Assistant] I don't know if I want to call them Premier players. I know you got one Premier player and I think you have two edge Premier players. Miles, Premier, Denzel and Emerson in the back. I don't know. Who are they? What are they? They've been great at times this year. They've been all time inexplicably. What the hell are you doing at times this year? But there are pieces here.


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[Assistant] There's also two other defensive coordinator jobs open right now. There will likely be between six and eight when all this shakes out. The head coaching jobs that are open now, many of them will likely bring in their own defensive coordinators. So there's going to be other jobs open down the road. How attractive is this job? Jason, you can start.


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[Assistant] And for context, historically, when there is a change at head coach, there's almost always changes at the coordinator positions too. So the Arizona job will likely come open.


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[Assistant] A prevalent thought in Denver beginning around November that maybe it wasn't Russ, maybe the head coach who was dysfunctional from game one. If you remember some of the key decisions he had to make in that week one game against Seattle, which was a huge game for Russ. You go back and you look at some of the things he did.


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[Assistant] You've almost forgotten how bad they were. Remember, he bled the clock so they could try a 64 yard field goal. He mismanaged timeouts. It got to be so bad that early in the season, he actually brought in and added a position on the coaching staff to help manage the game, the clock.


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[Assistant] So there was a thought really that took foothold in about November in Denver that it's not Russ, it's the head coach.


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[Assistant] Of course your numbers passing the ball are going to be better because you now have more time to complete a pass. Right. And that's a really interesting point that G makes because


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[Assistant] Who is the scrambling quarterback that had success past 33?


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[Assistant] He did. But he had the concussions and stepped away because of that. But, you know, the only reason I'm so


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[Assistant] I didn't see an elite arm talent the last six games. I'm just saying what he was in Houston. I don't know what he's gonna be here. We're trying to project like how


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't think it's the least attractive, but I'm definitely not as optimistic as G. I would not call this the most attractive offer, and it's because of Jason's point.


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[Assistant] It is a thing that coaches talk about the dysfunction in Cleveland when they are interviewing for jobs. I've heard that from coaches that have been here on interviews. I've heard that from coaches in the league that are friends with people that have come on interviews and they've told them, and as a cautionary tale,


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[Assistant] Careful if you go there. And that is a thing, and you can deny it if you want, but it is stigma. It's a stigma.


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[Assistant] Indy's still better than Cleveland. Gee, we've seen how quickly fortunes can turn in the NFL when you draft right and when you have the draft capital. Also weighing into this is the fact that they have gaping holes in the defense and they don't have the capital in the draft at the top of the draft.


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[Assistant] I know, but they have draft picks. Although Denver does not. The Browns have plenty of draft picks.


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[Assistant] Jason, is this franchise ever hired a head coach with previous head coaching experience? Yes. Mangini. Yep. It's the only one. And Hugh Jackson.


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[Assistant] And Hugh Jackson was an interim coach, right? No, he was also a head coach for the Raiders. Yeaah. Okay, so historically, this franchise- Very, very rare.


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[Assistant] The reason I'm concerned about who becomes the DC is this.


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[Assistant] There's two really good candidates here. Guys that we know that have been head coaches in the league and have had a great deal of success on the defensive side. Flores not nearly as much as Schwartz. Schwartz is a proven top tier defensive coordinator. He's going to be able to pick


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[Assistant] I think it'll be Schwartz and Flores that will be able to pick where they go. They're both gonna be hot commodities. Because of that,


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[Assistant] And the fact that you're talking about a side of the ball that has major gaping holes, not a player or two. We're talking about four spots that are glaring weaknesses. All these teams have glaring weaknesses, but the problem with those is these two guys that have their choice, the best, the ones that we want, they're going to be able to pick. They're not going to be desperate.


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[Assistant] That these guys are gonna sit back, take their time, do all the interviews, and then make the decision. But again, what are the jobs in that group that are such great jobs?


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[Assistant] I'll go on record right now and I will say I will be flat stunned if he is not a head coach in the league next year. I'll be stunned.


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[Assistant] They've got two players up front and then two guys.


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[Assistant] Well, who's the great coach right now that was a great player in the NFL?


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[Assistant] I think it's his call. Because I think if the head coach isn't picking the coordinators and the assistants, it's a real problem.


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[Assistant] I will say this, it's been fun to watch Bull's Transformation this year from being, I think, more in on analytics to now at least being- No, I'm still in, but I've always felt- No, you're in. You really, the last half of the season, have been making arguments for, come on guys, there's gotta be something else other than numbers, and I've always said-


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[Assistant] Yeah, no, what I'm trying to say is what I think you've really come around to, thankfully, and I think we've found common ground. I've always believed that it has to be a blend.


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[Assistant] And I think, and I had said early this season when the scoring was down and we had talked about why and why have the defenses caught up and why are some of these premier quarterbacks struggling so much. It was a trend we saw most of the season.


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[Assistant] And when I would talk to NFL people about that, the thing that I heard over and over again was, I think maybe the pendulum is swinging back now from relying more on analytics. It's now coming back to the middle, which I think where it should have been all along.


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[Assistant] Analytics absolutely will always have a place in all of sports, but when it's driving the bus and there's not a spot in that room for gut and feel and instinct and flow of the game and sometimes hunch, I think, and that's where we were in a dangerous spot, but I do think we've come back the other way. Jay, you agree with that?


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[Assistant] As to why we like particularly me and I think we all said this, Brian Flores was because he's that alpha, he's an alpha guy. And this franchise, when you look at their best players, their six best players, none of them are alphas. None of them. And so,


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[Assistant] It doesn't exist in the coaching staff. It doesn't exist on the roster. We thought that Flores would be the perfect yin yang, the perfect bad cop to the good cop. And if Sean Desai is a similar personality type of Stefanski and another Ivy leaguer thinker, we might be watching next year going, again, there's no spark.


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[Assistant] I don't think you can have that coaching style when you're coaching under Bill


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[Assistant] I don't. Because he is such a clear alpha.


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[Assistant] They're, they're the extra special folks right now. They're the, they're the diehards.


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[Assistant] Well, you're gonna pay for either one of these guys. And my question is, what are we giving up? Well, I don't think they're gonna feel up that much. How much would they?


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[Assistant] Yes, he's got two at 34. You're gonna have to rip that up. And even with cooks, and I'm not even talking about the financial end of it. I'm not.


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[Assistant] But no, what's interesting to me is we've never heard stories. I've asked teammates and nobody seems to have an answer.


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[Assistant] Knowing the Browns the way I do, I would think that they would be sitting here saying, we're going to go out and we're going to get one in the second round of the draft that's going to change our lives.


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[Assistant] I heard once from a former NFL coach, he said, everyone knows when the water starts to boil. Everybody. And the water is boiling in Cleveland. Yes it is. And I think they all know it and the lack of urgency that was obvious through, you know,


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[Assistant] Last season, that's gotta be gone. When they report to camp, they better get there with the mentality that they're on a week to week basis. Cause to your point, I don't know that he does survive past week six if they're one and five or two and four.


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[Assistant] Who screwed the most is Jimmy. Have you heard from anyone at all that Jimmy was the one that wanted to Sean and that everyone else in the organization wanted to pass? Cause I'm starting to hear whispers of that.


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[Assistant] Kind of knows these kinds of things and what goes on inside the building. It was described to me that Jimmy and Dee were so emphatic about it that it was going to happen and everyone else kind of realized it's a fait accompli. Jason's saying that Barry was first one in. Well, yeah, now that's.


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[Assistant] I don't know that not to be true, I, what, what, what I was told was,


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[Assistant] It only works. It's either a 100% win or a 100% fail. And in the Rams case, it was a win. However, the Piper standing at the front door and he wants his payment. And you know what the payment is for the Rams? Five years of irrelevancy. But they got a ring. Do you think they would trade you Aaron Donald? They might now.


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[Assistant] We got off topic. Off topic. That never happens. We've got all these needs.


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[Assistant] And so, when you start addressing needs, you look at, well, what you have to address them. Right. Uhm, is a miles-garret trade even something that the organization starts to think about? Absolutely not. Not right now. Absolutely not. Not at this moment. What if he comes out and says, I want to go? Well? Well? Which is not, which is not outside the realm of pos- of reasonability here.


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[Assistant] He's pensive right now. He is frozen in thought. You lost your signal, froze up. I like your background today, bro. Nice staircase. It's really good framing. I'm giving you a 9.7. Looks good. There we go. Hey, would you trade Miles Garrett for pieces?


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[Assistant] Hey, Maurice, put your bow on the 2022 season. It's all over. 7 and 10 were the vitals. Give them a letter grade. And don't be a homer, dammit.


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[Assistant] And you had some things that happened in your life that humbled you and knocked you down to a place, I'm not saying, where you got knocked down is even further than where Deshaun has ever been. You spent time incarcerated.


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[Assistant] You've traveled that journey. Uhm, I, I, I hope that


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[Assistant] That either you reach out to him or he reaches out to you, and you guys just converse, because I do think that your life


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[Assistant] He's a wise dude, man. And because of his journey, I do think that he has, he by the way,


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[Assistant] Spends a lot of his time now, uh, speaking to younger athletes, not just college teams, but also professional teams that bring him in and he shares his life journey and his story. And I absolutely think there's something of benefit that, uh, he could provide for Deshaun Watson. Speaking of younger athletes, Joe Varden is here. Hey, Joe.


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[Assistant] On one hand, it looks like they've overachieved because to be at 26 wins at the halfway point puts you on pace for 52. That's a win season no matter how you slice it, particularly when you got a major new moving part coming in. On the other hand though, there's, we all expressed I think some disappointment at


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[Assistant] Their inability to close out teams and games late, and we were really nitpicking, but we really focused in on the three and how that has to be an area where the team gets better. What's your sort of assessment of this team at the halfway point? Have they overachieved? Have they done what you expected? Where are they?


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[Assistant] I don't mean, I don't want to interrupt your train of thought, but we tried to figure out why yesterday.


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[Assistant] There is great danger though in long-term prognosticating what he's gonna do.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so that's why I do think bulls point because I've heard others like you, Joe, who's, it's not happening. And I just say,


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[Assistant] Hell, he could wake up one day and say, screw it all, I'm going home and we're winning another one. It wouldn't, it wouldn't knock me off my


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[Assistant] He said they used to sometimes design three of the first four trips down, getting the ball to Brad to get him into the flow. And I don't feel this sense of urgency to do that with Evan.


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[Assistant] Cause we've, we've talked about like pie in the sky scenarios of what they might be able to do. But realistically, how do they upgrade that spot right now?


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[Assistant] Looks like the Browns going into this season saying, we'll be okay at de-tackle.


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[Assistant] Everybody knew that that wasn't going to be the case. The Browns, when they shaved in the morning, knew that wasn't going to be in the case. But you have this ridiculous hope that maybe it'll work.


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[Assistant] It's not worth it just to say, well, we went to the second round. You know, if you're, if you have a chance to get that player that you can literally say, oh, we've got, we're one of four teams that can win it, make that move, but don't start that clock now.


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[Assistant] How about this question? Who is the single biggest force when they want to be? Because I think that is Giannis. That is Giannis. Oh man, that he is. We saw it a couple of weeks ago. I mean, it's like when, when he decides.


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[Assistant] He's got so many things he can do, you can't stop him. And they were putting resources on him and he was just like, I'm gonna do whatever I want every single trip down the floor. And it scared the hell out of me because I thought, well, when you get into playoff mode and he decides to become that guy, what's the answer?


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[Assistant] He's been fairly open as superstars go. Like when you look at guys like Brady, you know, the other guys that are his equal in their sports, a lot of them build walls around them and never let anybody, does anybody


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[Assistant] You used to give out bikes and that was looked at as a big deal. That's it. That's it. I've said before on this show and on channel three because I've been to his school and I've looked and I've seen.


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[Assistant] I can't understand why that isn't a bigger story nationally.


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[Assistant] And I can't understand why that hasn't already become a duplicatable


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[Assistant] Model that we see across the country because what he's doing is absolutely unlike anything I've ever seen from an impact.


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[Assistant] You feel it immediately. When you interact with the kids, it is astounding the impact that this school has had on their lives. And it's not just that, it's the other services that the school offers for the parents.


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[Assistant] That I don't know why we don't have one of these in every major city in America. And I think Lebron's hope, and I know mine is after seeing this, I hope that that becomes a reality.


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[Assistant] You know, major media outlets like, like a 60 minutes or even a 30 for 30. Why the hell haven't we seen a 30 for 30 from ESPN?


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[Assistant] That shows the impact because to your point of crying, I had a young guy who wants to get into television. He's got a TV lab there that Matt Colling also sponsors and channel three is also a sponsor of the, so we go there and we do things with them. We do things with them every week.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna be able to maybe reach my dream because LeBron cared about me.


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[Assistant] And by the way, everybody I came in contact with, all the kids, so respectful, so well mannered. He said, I said, are you going to continue to get all these? He said, yea, and I said, then you're going to get to your green. And he asked me when he was done,


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[Assistant] Could he have my phone number so he could send me his grade card every time it comes up? Oh wow.


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[Assistant] 45 seconds. You can apologize in advance.


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[Assistant] Odell Beckham Jr., the video, are we going to hear the audio from that video? We can't hear the audio. I didn't think so. Damn it. But we got a lot to say about the video that's just out about Odell Beckham Jr. being kicked off the plane, uhm, a couple of weeks ago. That's overtime. Thanks for watching today. We're back tomorrow, 11 a.m. Eastern. Thanks for watching the Elkwood Cleveland Sports Show. We will see you.


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[Assistant] Nojumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Today I'm here with Getter. The man who named the rope.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I just had no idea in that moment that you were like giving me the name that would then become the name of my squad. It's like, the Beyhive, the Beyonce crew, it's like you name that.


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[Assistant] It is calm, yeaah. And really, uh, Dylan Francis is the criminal. He's the one that we were accusing of being like some sort of sexual deviant.


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[Assistant] Right. And actually I went to Dylan Francis' dad for a physical checkup on like what my body is doing. No, we didn't do that. But he examined like my medical records.


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[Assistant] Which is cool. Yeah, not that that has anything to do with absolutely anything.


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[Assistant] He had just finished dyeing his hair to match the graphic on his hoodie.


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[Assistant] Four floors. So there's no weed being smoked up top? Nope.


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[Assistant] And then Diablo is just what? Like what do you consider Diablo's specialty?


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[Assistant] I don't know, maybe I'm speaking out of turn, but I just feel like Offset's not an ass eater.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah, good point. Unless poop is a nice diamond cleaner. Bro, you're never gonna get any poop in your mouth eating that ass, I don't think. To me? He knows. That's not-


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[Assistant] Bro, you know what's crazy though is that we did that other podcast.


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[Assistant] That never came out, because the fucking mics weren't on. Nobody knows, but I had to get her in for a fucking reunion one. Yea it was Spock. Yes, and the fucking mics.


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[Assistant] My recollection of that time period was that it was a really interesting interview because Getter had officially like just started like really getting money, just went on like a long ass tour for the first time with all your boys. Hell yea. You were first kind of like actually doing all this lit shit, like I remember hearing you on the phone with like your agent and shit and I was like oh fuck this guy got an agent now.


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[Assistant] Adam's cool. What was there? Well, uh, just BMX trip. Back in the day, yea. That was cool though. That was actually like right as I was starting to do this. Okay, so what do you got going on in your life lately, Getter? Like, tell me, tell me about what you're up to nowadays.


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[Assistant] I think that might be because I tried to put it on like that earlier, or did you do that? Oh god, you do a big head, I have a big head too.


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[Assistant] Okay. But it is a good hat. It says alpha. It's got pre-distressed brim. People just send shit in and I just thought this was like either the worst or best thing I ever got.


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[Assistant] I was gonna ask about that, cause I was curious about the, the state of the Kaledi relationship, yea.


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[Assistant] I had a couple people ask me, you know, they were like, you gotta ask them about what the fuck's going on with Kalei.


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[Assistant] What, what about like your EDM DJ career versus your rap career? Because I was, I was watching a bunch of Tara Reid videos last night and I noticed that the view counts were pretty good.


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[Assistant] Yes. Or like what's so not or fly low. Well I was watching your most recent video from like two months ago and it was very different.


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[Assistant] Okay, so like put yourself in that position that you were in like when we did that last interview that nobody ever saw where you were first like gonna go on these big ass, like your own big ass tours.


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[Assistant] Finally like just making a shitload of money and stuff, probably for like kind of the first time and stuff and like you're fully just going and you just got all these kids just doing Molly, rubbing it in their eyeballs, moshing to your shit every night. That's how I imagine it.


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[Assistant] And it seemed like you were just first starting to like actually live that life of just being on tour way too much.


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[Assistant] Have you kind of dialed it back? Like at a certain point, did your opinion on all that shit kind of change a little bit?


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[Assistant] No, at the old start, that's what was so terrible, is that those things would just fucking come off, and you'd just hunt it around, you'd find it like-


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[Assistant] Don't you think we'd all look more badass if we had like gaming chairs right now too? Oh yea, way better bro. What? Why don't we have gaming chairs? We might be getting sponsored and getting a bunch of those. That'd be dope. Wouldn't that be cool?


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[Assistant] Right. You wanna know what I remember was like a really, uh, important thing that I remember you talking about that I was bummed that the world never got to hear about on that first podcast is you were describing


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[Assistant] Let's hear it, cause nobody ever gets to hear it, even though you told me.


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[Assistant] Still a child, but yeaah, you're starting to feel like the fucking, uh, hangovers and shit catching up a little bit more.


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[Assistant] Tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like that two year ago podcast, that that was like when you were doing a lot of blow.


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[Assistant] It feels cool to just be like, man, people told me I couldn't do this my whole life. I'm doing it. I'm getting by. It feels good. I'm going to keep doing it. And I can get fucked up. Yeah. I mean, and you know what the thing about getting fucked up is, is that there's just a lot of things in life that just seem easier when you're fucked up, but it's all just a fucking cop out.


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[Assistant] Yeah, most people can't even imagine going in there without drinking, but then once you're out, once it's like your job, it's kind of like, well, why the fuck would I like want to be in that routine of having that? I feel weird about strippers too. They seem like they always drink on the job.


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[Assistant] Do you guys see Post Malone and Pump just sorta sitting around on the ground pretending to be homeless together?


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[Assistant] Yeah, shot of the pose. How do you feel about, I guess you still haven't got a face tattoo. Conservative decision.


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[Assistant] No, yea, it was tight. I just like, kinda wonder. Like, I just, the cheek. Cheek is a lot. Foolish. Yea, it was just like really big seeing that all at once.


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[Assistant] What, the cross? Thanks, yeaah. I've been thinking about, I wanna get like the Yamaka area of my head tattooed.


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[Assistant] Well I wanna get the, I'm gonna get the compass frags. Like in here. Like the way he had it kinda. But I don't wanna go like full cheek. Oh my god dude. No, a tree.


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[Assistant] You know Slime Dollas? Cole Bennett did his new music video. He's got like a fucking giant like Illuminati pyramid in the center of his forehead, bro.


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[Assistant] It's massive. New music is taking tattoos to another level, bro. It's almost like the face- face tattoos are the new vines.


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[Assistant] Or at least, it was, I think that was one of the questions I was asking, like, is Vine still thing?


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[Assistant] Does that happen like 5% as much as it used to or?


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[Assistant] I mean, I went to, I went to Greece a couple years ago, but not for any like shit, just for like bike shit.


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[Assistant] What Athens? Yeah. Athens is dope. It was lit, but we were riding every day so I didn't get to like really, oh I don't, I feel like riding you probably get to see more cool stuff than like going there on some music shit. Yeah, we were just like


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[Assistant] Not that I necessarily remember, but maybe. People like steal your shit. Oh, not like that. Why that happen to you guys out there?


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[Assistant] I should make that a skit. This is like the very early days of utorian stuff. Yeah, it was nice.


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[Assistant] I mean, if I owned a nightclub, I'd probably want to be like selling drugs too, but I would probably like control myself and not do it. Mali vending machine. Oh yeah, of course. You want to grab it for him?


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[Assistant] It just says get on it. Is that a common nickname if you just get?


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[Assistant] That's always the battle. I mean, that's how I feel every time I look at like a 16 year old fucking rapper kid and he's got, you know, a pyramid tattooed on his head and he's got a gun in the video and stuff. It's like, there's a part of me that's like, oh, you poor kid, like, just go to school, get a scholarship or something, man.


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[Assistant] Really? Did you see the long-term, like, negative effects of that, or was it just his?


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[Assistant] What do you mean? Like did you have like negative things happen to your career because you spazzed out on Twitter? I did.


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[Assistant] Right, it's like a weird thing in like sort of the club world where you like have to act like you just like fully appreciate that kind of shit.


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[Assistant] No, yea totally. I mean, I've had to learn that about like, you know, I always had that urge when everybody's freaking out about some new rapper and I'll just be like thinking in my head like, this is fucking wild.


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[Assistant] This is terrible. This is not it. You guys are fucking idiots. Like why are you buying into this stupid shit? But I've just learned over the years that I can never say that because it just is never gonna like read well.


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[Assistant] Or somebody who could be like helping or at the very least would just not feel the need to jump in. Like it's not, sometimes I love when I see two people beefing, they're right in my like sort of circle of people that I know and that I'm around and stuff and they're beefing and I'm just,


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[Assistant] Sitting back on Twitter just not participating and not having anything to do with it and just feeling so good that I don't have to get involved.


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[Assistant] Especially if the people are like high brow, they're like you jumping in, like you could like just become part of this. Like if everybody's talking about Trippie and 6ix9ine, if you say something about Trippie or 6ix9ine, then boom, you're part of it. And they're probably gonna be talking about you too, and you're gonna get the goods and the bad side of both.


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[Assistant] They just want people to talk about it. Oh, I totally agree with that. That incentive of like, I mean, let's be real, people do insane shit for clout. Hell yea. You know? And I will just never stop being amazed by it.


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[Assistant] That's alright, I still say that shit too. I'm sorry. I try not to say faggot, but I still say retarded. I've tried to take that out of my book.


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[Assistant] Yeah, go get that. Because once you get to a little bit more established point in your career, you're not gonna really be able to like, be as reckless as you're being right now. Or, but then you look at someone like 6ix9ine who's still like way more, way more reckless now than he was when he started. So I mean, that's cool.


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[Assistant] From that though bro, that pro- that video probably did a really good rate. But it's not like he has- well he does have an Instagram now, but I don't know if anybody believes that it's a real Instagram, so it's like- It is a real Instagram. I know that, but like, do people know? Cause it's not verified or whatever? Kodak's not verified. He isn't.


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[Assistant] On Twitter, I don't really like interact with people who aren't verified for the most part because that verified tab in the mentions, I look at that a lot and I forget that the other one exists. So sometimes I'll realize, I'll be like, oh yeah, like most of my like people that I follow on Twitter interact with aren't verified. So I'm not really seeing what they're saying. That might be bad.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I like to like, interact with fans in a way where I can like,


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[Assistant] And what's annoying is that kids can just put you on a group chat and then that group chat will be going for years.


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[Assistant] I'd be kinda hyped on that though, I'd be like damn, I'm like in on this meme crew, maybe I'm gonna ride this one out.


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[Assistant] That's the biggest thing I hate about being 34 is I just feel like my meme making is- You're 34? Yea, it's rough, right?


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[Assistant] I actually have no reason to believe that I can reproduce because actually when I was like 21, one of my first times ever drinking


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[Assistant] Got so drunk that I couldn't tell this girl to get off of me, nutted in her, and then she told me she got pregnant, but I don't know if I believe her, and then since then I have not even had a pregnancy scare, and that's like 13 years of raw dog and chicks, so.


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[Assistant] This is gonna be the best fucking fourteen dollars I've ever saved in my life.


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[Assistant] Pierce is a lit man, I never had one. I always wanted to have one. Maybe I should just do it.


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[Assistant] Ah, is he still here? I gotta tell him to pick up the phone when the fucking RJ dude calls. God damn it. I'm gonna be back in one second. Make sure you guys are really entertaining while I'm gone.


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[Assistant] So what, what do you feel like? Oh yea, I forgot my headphones. Did you make that case? Yo, you know what I was watching last night?


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[Assistant] I was watching your shred collective, uh, thing at the barracks last night. Oh yea? A little skate jam shit. That looks fun.


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[Assistant] I had Chad Musk on here and that was like the realization that everyone on earth like remembers shit from video games way better than they remember anything else.


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[Assistant] Oh man, I wish rappers knew about Jello Biafra more so that they could like, rhyme shit with Jello Biafra. You got anything? Rapper?


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[Assistant] Hello IP. Shout out to Jello Biafra. Hello IP in the rafters.


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[Assistant] Adam will drop a mixtape. I will not, I'm not the rapping type. I just, I can't do it. I think you could. Oh, I could, yea.


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[Assistant] The other day I wrote this really good rap, and I rap very rare, and I vlogged the other day, I spit some bars about somebody's mom's house, I was eating your mom out, in your mom's blouse.


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[Assistant] But you know, I'll just spit like a fire four bar massacre just here and there, but I'm not.


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[Assistant] But yea, what's your writing credit like? I can't tell you. Google it. You're like, you're like, you should say T-H-A instead of T-H-E. Yup. It'd be like a little more hip. I don't even know what you just said.


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[Assistant] I grew up trying to make that real decision of like, am I a THG kind of guy? Am I a THA kind of guy? Or am I a DA kind of guy? Because like rap, almost back in the day, you'd look at the fucking song titles in the back and it would be like DA a lot.


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[Assistant] You know what, another thing I really have gotten from rap music is always replace like, replace the S with a Z at the end of the word, right? Always.


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[Assistant] Well, the slime dollars kid I was just talking about, he is a Z. Yeah. Yeah.


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[Assistant] To me that's a lot more rapper-ish than an RS. Yeah, for sure. Who's your favorite rapper out right now? Uhm, my favorite rapper out right now? Well, I've been listening to the YG album a lot, so YG. YG's fire. I'm very of the moment, I don't like to think of anything in terms of like, my favorite thing of this year. I don't think like that.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I don't know what I think of Kanye as a rapper or a producer. At this point in his career. I just think about like, all of the stuff he's done together. That was lit.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Are you familiar with 070 Shake? Yeah. Yes. Do you know that she left Jules as her manager? Yeah, she told me. Jules just started tripping about it on Twitter like two hours ago. I didn't even know that Jules...


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[Assistant] I thought she just did like parties. She always has just managed Sheik, but then today, she was just like, oh, as soon as Sheik got on the Nas album, she just left me. Oh my, oh my god, that's lit.


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[Assistant] She is really good, but I mean that makes you wonder why Jules wouldn't have had her under some sort of contract, right?


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[Assistant] But then again, if you manage them, it's like you can just cancel the management contract. That's like signing them to like actual like label shit is different, right?


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[Assistant] Right. I just had G Herbo on here and he was telling me all about, cause he'd signed fucking Juice Whirl.


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[Assistant] Like I did that- Something Bands? Uh, Ski Mask was his first song. Cause I did that interview when I think he had one song out. Which seems like a strange decision in retrospect.


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[Assistant] Holy shit, it's just crazy. Yo, man. I remember when like, in that interview, we're asking Perp about Lil Pump, but it's as in like, yo, what's up with that Lil Pump dude? Like, that dude's crazy. Like, the idea that he would actually go on to become this ridiculously successful rapper is so weird.


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[Assistant] Harvard dropout bro, it's gonna be fire. Do you see that he decided to do it with Harvard spelled wrong? It's gonna be dope bro. H-A-R-V-E-R-V. I think it might go number one. Yo. That's funny, cause then he can't get sued by Harvard probably, and it's like, it's funny, cause it's like he spelled it wrong.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Harvard. I still like, get people asking me if Lil Pump went to Harvard, like actual people I know. We went one time bro.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's just crazy. Cause when I met him, he had just turned 16. So like, it's been a long two years.


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[Assistant] I feel like that would be really fun. I feel like there's probably like a heavy vetting process. I also feel like if I went to a high school, people would probably think it was kinda creepy no matter why I was there. Probably. This would be like a weird visual. I'm way too tall and like tatted up and shit.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna lie, I did do molly with a bunch of girls a couple weeks ago. And that was my first time doing molly in like over a year. Oh yea, it was a beautiful experience. Oh god.


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[Assistant] It wasn't as bad as it maybe could have been, but I, you know.


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[Assistant] You know what, I feel like I meet a lot of rappers who like, just do a shitload of blow whenever they go in the studio, and that you would never know. That's the place to do it. You would never know. It's so quick. It just gets them in the zone, they just start being productive, start making shit, and it's just weird to like, realize like, oh my god, you too?


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[Assistant] He's still off the lane. He's off the lane.


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[Assistant] I don't get how it could be like somebody's fetish. Or like their thing.


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[Assistant] Like I've, I've, I actually, like Shane Dawson has done it, and then when I watch his regular vlogs, it's kinda like he's doing it. He's like, okay, today?


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[Assistant] And that's what sucks too, is that I'll get a podcast demonetized and I'll be like, why is this podcast demonetized? And they'll be like, well in the first five minutes you talked about anal sex like eight times, you said fuck fourteen times.


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[Assistant] But the whole thing with them is that they equate, like, monetary worth with spreading it. Like, so if, once they decide your video isn't good enough to have ads, then it's also like, okay, we're never gonna show this to anybody ever.


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[Assistant] Do you feel like you're, like you are sort of over the period of your life where you were like doing what you had to do to make money or like to be popular and now you feel like you could just do the stuff you want to do creatively and you're not as connected to like the end result?


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[Assistant] But imagine we made it like a six second limit.


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[Assistant] I have bars, so. For days. Let's do it.


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[Assistant] Hey, we got a thousand people in here watching us, even though we're on an alternate channel. That feels pretty good. Thousand.


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[Assistant] Alright, appreciate you guys. RJ, hey, for the peop- wait, I gotta wrap this up. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, Soundcloud, iTunes. Thank you very much to these boys for coming through. Rope Gang shit. OG Rope Gang shit. Ay. Cafeteria food.


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[Assistant] Hey-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o.


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[Assistant] You're telling me that a 50, that he would have a better chance of defending Wayne Crabet than I would have throwing the ball to Wayne Crabet. I've never seen you throw a football, so I don't know. I've seen you throw a baseball. Pretty good form. I can throw. I mean, I'm not running around. I'm guessing because of your basketball background, and I know you were known for defense. I was.


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[Assistant] You're not, it's not coming. He's taking a lot of days off. It's not coming. Alright, now look at this. You're hilarious. How would Bullfair, forget you and Bell. What a thing. It's, it's Crabette and Bull.


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[Assistant] I sit on the couch and he runs routes and I throw it to him.


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[Assistant] Nuggets is in there trying to save the show saying please let's get on this. Let's, let's give a rundown of what's coming up. Leroy Hoard, Robert Smith, tears from the Buckeyes, tears from the Wolverines. That's what's going to happen.


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[Assistant] And a completion from Deshaun Watson. True or false? Bull, this is true, is the defending champion. I am. Also true, the last time I was here and we played, I won. I don't think so. I think you won two times ago. I did. One time ago, you won. No, three times ago. No, no, no, that's incorrect.


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[Assistant] We're gonna, we're gonna definitely get into the Browns talk. We're gonna talk about Nick Chubb. Is it even worth going for the rushing title? We'll get into that. Uh, before we do that, I want to give a quick update on Demar Hamlin's situation. Uh, improvement overnight, which is, which is, uh, exactly the news we wanted to hear.


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[Assistant] This is, uh, from Josh Reed. He says he just spoke with his uncle. Demar was originally on 100% oxygen. They've now turned that down to 50%. That means he is...


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[Assistant] Uh, processing his own oxygen, which is really a big threshold to cross. He is there. It doesn't mean he's out of the woods. It just means he's showing improvement. And he says the family is certainly hanging in there. And from everything I've heard, read, and the folks I've talked to, the family is just completely overwhelmed.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I haven't looked recently. At one point yesterday I believe his GoFundMe for his


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[Assistant] Uhm, so right now what we know is that there is improvement. Uhm, they've been able to roll him over on his stomach. I believe he is still intubated. But it's, they've reduced his oxygen and he seems to be okay. There's a tweet from me in Rappport. It says,


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[Assistant] The guy, Jordan Rooney. Yes, who we talked of yesterday.


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[Assistant] Speaking with Cameron Wolf on NFL Network quote,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I did, the one negative bit of news that I read, uh, last night or early this morning, I can't remember, was the fear now is that he may have suffered lung damage. Sub lung damage. They don't know. They're going to continue to run tests.


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[Assistant] We're not gonna speculate. Basically, the news that we have for you at 11-12, uh, on Wednesday morning is mostly positive. So that's certainly a good thing. Uh, let's dive into Browns. Final game of the season.


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[Assistant] There's no question that uhm, even though there have been games where he was sort of absent, there's no question that this was a positive pick up.


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[Assistant] No. So let's talk about Nick Chubb. There was a little bit of a debate internally here as to whether or not, A, Nick Chubb could even win the rushing title. He's 160 yards behind Josh Jacobs. And then there was more debate, I think, about what difference does it make? Uh, and so we're gonna talk about that. He's got 1,448 yards.


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[Assistant] 12 touchdowns, but a super season for him. Obviously he's a pro bowler. Uhm, the question at this point is, they made it a point during the broadcast last week of saying multiple times how important it was. They picked that up in the production meetings. They're not pulling that out of thin air.


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[Assistant] It was, but as you look at what's going on, Jacobs was dinged against San Francisco and he was, he hasn't practiced yet this week.


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[Assistant] So, the fact that he's only 160 yards behind him is very impressive. Uhm, I believe it is very important and I'll tell you why and then I'll open it up to you guys. Number one, there's just two reasons guys play the game. At least this is what I've always been told by a lot of the greats that I've talked to. They want range, ultimately, and this boils down to about 10%.


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[Assistant] They believe they have a chance to make the Hall of Fame one day. When you're a Hall of Famer, you become a corporation. You're your own entity and you can write checks the rest of your life. How many card shows do you want to do a year? How many appearances do you want to do a year? When you have HOF behind your name, you can do that.


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb is no question on a Hall of Fame arc. Yes. The one thing he lacks that he doesn't have that everybody when it comes time to vote on this sort of thing will look at was how many rushing titles did he win?


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[Assistant] How many times was he the best player at his position? That's why I think it matters.


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[Assistant] Sure, absolutely. I'll tell you why he does. I gotta do a lot of arguments with a gentleman on Twitter. Hall of Fame is in his handle. Really?


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[Assistant] He actually makes the case against Clay Matthews being a Hall of Famer. And the argument that he uses against me, appropriately by the way,


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[Assistant] Is that he was never the best linebacker in the game.


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[Assistant] He played for 18 or 19 seasons, but he was never the best at his position. By the way, I also know a lot of people that currently vote for Hall of Famers and they say,


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[Assistant] Really tough because the average leg span of a running back is three and a half seasons. So you, you definitely have to have longevity. When you look at a guy like Emmet Smith, guy that did it for a long stretch of time, you're like, oh yeah, he's in.


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[Assistant] By the way, Gail is the, is the outlier. Terrell Davis.


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[Assistant] At that position, when the college ranks are churning out 22 year old stallions every year, the fact that at 37 years old, you can still play at a high level at the position which requires maybe the most athleticism strength


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[Assistant] For some positions, it's difficult to have a metric that clearly defines greatness, but not at running backs.


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[Assistant] At running back, maybe as much as any other position, quarterback and wide receiver are obviously among them. You have a tangible, well the measure of greatness is if you ever lead the league in rushing. That is hands down.


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[Assistant] You're the same way when we were talking about quarterback this year.


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[Assistant] If his career were to end today, Nick Chubb is not going to the hall of fame. A lock to the hall of fame. He wouldn't. He wouldn't go. Because of the position he plays. Yeah. And because of the severity of injuries and the swiftness at which they get old and injured and out of the game.


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[Assistant] If you're able to, uh, whatever you can assemble in the years that you play, all of that is cachet when it comes time for voters to look at. It's like chips.


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[Assistant] Because, and you mentioned two guys that got in because their careers were hacked short because of terrible injuries. Guys will look at that. It's the outlier. It doesn't mean that if you're great for three years and get injured, you're going in.


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[Assistant] They have, but do you think he has, and I imagine we could find out, do you think there's a bonus structure in his contract? Because this isn't a, you know, a rushing title means you're the best at your position.


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[Assistant] Your metric is yards per carry. No, that's not. Cause you've always said I look at yards per carry.


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[Assistant] By the way guys, Nick Chubb is already 84th all time in rushing yards. He's already in the top 104 years. Because the average length of the career of running backs is three and a half years.


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[Assistant] Of course, of course, but the point is that it is a, and I think you would agree with this, you played this position.


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[Assistant] If you're a left tackle and you're drafted into the league and you're a premier left tackle, what's the saying? Don't have to worry about that position for a decade. Right.


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[Assistant] Why would anybody draft running back in the first round? Why are they doing this? And what was the trend in the NFL?


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[Assistant] The league has figured out that that is a disposable position that has an endless stream of talent coming every year behind them. And that's not the case with left tackle. It's not even the case with wide receivers.


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[Assistant] It's not true. Look at the Patriots. The elite running backs are generally on mediocre or bad teams. I mean, that's just the way it is. Sadly, you're right.


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[Assistant] It does. Yeaah, it's not important until you really need one. But who is the last team that won a Super Bowl with a great running back?


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[Assistant] Hell, you can even make the argument they haven't had much playoff success.


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[Assistant] He got robbed. Well hell, if that's our standard, to Sean Watson then. I mean, it doesn't make you a failure, but if, I mean, if you're only going to use success at a position as playoff success, who said success at a position?


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[Assistant] The Steelers with Franco Harris. It was, I know, but I'm going to, and then you even look in the eighties, all of these teams that were dominating seventies and eighties and even, even look at the, I know the Cowboys were well rounded, but they had an all time great running back. They did. That doesn't, doesn't happen. It doesn't mean you're going to win today. You better have an all time great quarterback.


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[Assistant] And in my mind, it's targeting is like the Supreme Court defined pornography. I don't know what the hell it is until I see it. I know targeting when I see it. That was it. Barbara Harrison.


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[Assistant] To me, I think because it's so punitive, the player would have to sit out the first half of the championship game. To me, it better be a no-brainer. It's like Hall of Fame discussion. If you're waffling on whether or not a player goes into Hall of Fame, who doesn't? But you can't, but you can't, you can't make that, you can't change that call.


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[Assistant] Well, I mean I think people say that, but I don't know how true that actually is. So it was targeting in your mind. It was targeting then.


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[Assistant] Like, I think that a lot of these guys, they know what they need to do.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, looking at, uh, looking at the Sean, he's definitely getting more comfortable after, you know, being away from the game so long. I mean, almost, almost, you know, brought the team back in the, in those crazy conditions a couple of weeks ago.


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[Assistant] But certainly, Robert, a rushing title is going to go a long way to getting a player into the Hall of Fame. Frank Gore never won a rushing title. No, but as I just said, he did it a different way. He did it with longevity. He did it a different way. I agree with you.


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[Assistant] Man playing that long at that position, somebody still like unbelievable. Mind boggling. Guys, we gotta run. Uh, thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Happy new year to both. And uh, on this day, we're all miserable with Michigan and Ohio state watching TCU.


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[Assistant] I think, well. And I never thought of Frank Gore as great. He only had like, he never was an All-Pro, not once. Here's the way. Mark Fidrich was great for a minute. Yeah, but you gotta be great for a reason.


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[Assistant] Listen, that's gonna be our content for like the next two weeks. Two weeks. We'll do the zero to nine today. Tomorrow we can do ten to nineteen and then every day for the next ten


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[Assistant] We're going to argue and debate, did they get these right? I think they missed on two, at least two, on the zero to nine. But we're going to debate that today on overtime and every day for the next ten unless something bumps that out. But for every day for at least the two weeks, we're going to be talking about all-time greats at each numerical number.


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[Assistant] I'm a Nigerian prince. Can you give me $20,000 and I'll pay you back. Your cousin is in jail and if you don't give me $1,000 now we're going to execute him. That's right. Alright, here we go.


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[Assistant] Is it because they're not as confident in the other defensive backs cover skills?


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[Assistant] The whole routes will switch everything. Right, whereas Carson Wentz is, you know, nothing.


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[Assistant] I think the Browns won that game because Ron, because Ron Rivera.


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[Assistant] Ron Rivera made the decision to go away from Taylor Heinecke, not that he's an all-pro.


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[Assistant] Because Carson Wentz, I'm with you, he was playing at an MVP caliber level. And right now, I don't, he's definitely not starting. He has never been the same guy. No, he has not. He's been awful.


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[Assistant] That is a huge indictment on the entire season. We were saying on Monday, I know it doesn't matter. They beat Tom Brady. Go figure. I know it doesn't matter Jay, but we were saying on Monday that all


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[Assistant] Can I, wait, before we do that, uhm, I don't know why this just popped up on my phone and I showed it to G. Bush and G. Bush looked at me and he goes, yo, is that real? I swear to you, I mean, you never know what you see on the internet if it's real. There's a picture of a couple, I can't find it now, there's a picture of a couple and it said,


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[Assistant] Rex is great on Twitter. Blocker Charge.


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[Assistant] You're right, G. Or, no, he often posts about him on Twitter.


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[Assistant] Well, General Rags would have been a lot worse, so they went with General Ragland.


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[Assistant] There is a zero percent chance. That is the worst question. Okay, yeaah. This is the worst tiebreaker we've ever had.


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[Assistant] Bull, I think you might, uh, be better at true or false than McNuggets. Career solo tackles for Reggie Brack.


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[Assistant] What's up, Haz? How you doing, man? How was the process? I'm good. What's up, Jay? Uh, everything's great. Yea, to Bull's point, how was the process this week? Did they give you a lot of material? Did this one just flow out of your, out of your pen or what?


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[Assistant] Hey Haz, let me ask you a question. I imagine that these videos would be kinda like your kids. Like you love them all, but it's hard to pick like your favorite or the best one. If you would, sort of characterize this one.


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[Assistant] Your thoughts on it, how it fits into the pantheon of all the videos you've created.


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[Assistant] Okay, so bittersweet, what might have been, it's the world premiere of DJ Hazmat's Brown's Commander's video, exclusively right here on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Roll it.


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[Assistant] Love the shout out for Damar Hamlin. I thought that that was really, really tastefully done. And as always, you know, if you want to just spend three minutes recapping a football game, you can read a lengthy article.


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[Assistant] That rehashes everything you already saw new or you can be entertained and just listen to his video.


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[Assistant] And the three tugs, they're nice, but uhm, I need more than 168 yards passing. I agree. So it's a step.


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[Assistant] It is an interesting point though, DJ, and I wonder how many people would answer that. Like yeaah, I'll sell my soul and suck for, you know, 10 years, but give me that one Superboy.


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[Assistant] Of course. That's an easy one. Of course. Give me the playoffs.


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[Assistant] Wow, game show host. There she is!


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, Duke Johnson? No, that year was Carl, you're right, that was Carlos


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[Assistant] I don't think there should be a set number. I don't either. I don't like that. I don't like the set number either. The special teams question, I've always been dumbfounded.


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[Assistant] Special teamers, uhm, absolutely belong in the Hall of Fame. It's a third of the game. Yeaah. Yeaah. It's not really a third of the game. It is. When you talk to great coaches, they treat it as if it's a third of the game. I know, but it's not actually a third of the game.


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[Assistant] I don't love special plays teams deciding games, but those are the rules.


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[Assistant] There you go. I thought you guys rudely interrupted me. Alright, let's go, Travis.


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[Assistant] Not as much as when you make the money that he makes, right? Like, they've already paid him accordingly.


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[Assistant] There could be some type of bonus, but again, when you get to the status of a Nick Chubb,


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[Assistant] You don't have a contract with a whole bunch of bonuses. You just straight get paid.


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[Assistant] That Derek Henry had gotten, he'd win the Russian title every year. No question. So, you can't really do that.


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[Assistant] Nick Chubb's ninth in yards per carry, surprisingly. Okay, ninth? Well, if he was top five, would he be leading the league in rushing? Yes. Yes. I've already done the math. Okay. If he had the carries that Jacobs has, he would be in the league. So that means that you could go, you could go to eight other guys and say this.


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[Assistant] If Nick Chubb had gotten those amount of carries, he'd easily win the Russian title.


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[Assistant] But part of the reason why it's so different is that they run the ball out of a lot of spread.


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[Assistant] You see what I mean? So the offenses are different. And, and so I look at Nick Chubb having the success in the yards per carry in this offense when


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[Assistant] They are, the running game is the catalyst for the offense. We'll give a higher grade to me.


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[Assistant] Run, uh, Lyman, take pride.


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[Assistant] The offensive line was more excited than I was. Right? Simply because I didn't like...


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[Assistant] I mean, I didn't care one way or another because it was just...


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[Assistant] Kind of a thing of, oh, they just started doing the fullback thing and I was listed as a fullback even though I was the primary ball carrier. So I kind of had a sour taste about it. I took it.


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[Assistant] You have to be careful, Jay, from this standpoint. Uhm, when you take the average life


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[Assistant] of a running back and say it's X amount of years, you're including all running backs.


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[Assistant] It does. Talent always wins. And, and, and so when you say,


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[Assistant] That if we talk about all the running backs in the last 10, 15 years that have made an impact or that we know who they are and weren't just flashes in the pan.


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[Assistant] That's why it's an average. The average for an NFL player is 3.3 years. For example, you're averaging the people in the running back room. And I'm only averaging the contributors.


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[Assistant] You have to think long and hard.


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[Assistant] When that first contract is up, how long you gonna extend them?


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[Assistant] Very true. That doesn't happen with any other, that doesn't happen with any other position. In fact, to the point where if you have a good first two years, you better go back to the table.


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[Assistant] And hold out and make a stink and do whatever. And that's why they often do. Yep. Right. And so from that standpoint, the position is paid differently, it's played differently, and the demands as a player are different. And you know what too Leroy, we've seen- Because everything gets constricted.


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[Assistant] I don't necessarily agree with that from this standpoint.


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[Assistant] The teams that have that mentality and then they get into December and January and can't run the football.


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[Assistant] I find watching football and getting frustrated as hell.


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[Assistant] When you have a situation


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[Assistant] Example of success in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I would, I would be inclined to agree with some of what you're saying, if not for Joe Thomas.


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[Assistant] Okay, like, you- But most of the great quarterbacks have won Super Bowl. Wait! The great Aaron Rodgers has won! Mmm, talk about it. Okay.


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[Assistant] Like, you can do this at a lot of positions. So, let me, let me ask you a question. Aaron Rodgers only won one Super Bowl.


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[Assistant] Would you pay him 50 million a year? At this point, no.


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[Assistant] I'm watching Ohio State and I thought the game played out just as I thought. Ohio State got to run them off the field and they did a good job of it.


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[Assistant] But I was shocked at how Georgia could keep up. Right? That, that took me for a loop. Then we get to the end of the game. Whoop.


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[Assistant] Please, don't let me have to deal with time, it's your Wednesday.


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[Assistant] What, what happens is it, it does two things.


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[Assistant] It makes the defense have to declare what they're gonna stop. Okay. So if you go out there and you're spread, they're either going to put six in the box or they're not.


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[Assistant] And that makes, that gives Nick a bunch of room to operate.


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[Assistant] Okay, uhm, whereas the other way,


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[Assistant] It's a little easier when you have two tight ends and you try to get in running formations. They can bring guys up.


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[Assistant] A little bit better, whether it's a run defense or you trying to defend the pass.


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[Assistant] They can, they, they can disguise it a little bit better when you, when you have two tight ends or you have a tight, uh, formation offensively. But when you spread it out, it has to be more definitive because you're not going to be playing games.


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[Assistant] With them guys running around in the secondary and Deshaun Watson at quarterback.


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[Assistant] And his numbers aren't ridiculous. His numbers aren't, you know, you know, he's had some good years, but to be able to do that for that long.


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[Assistant] And every year that he played had some production. That's Hall of Fame worthy. You have other guys who have done it.


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[Assistant] Other ways. And I think there's no real set criteria.


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[Assistant] But I will say if you get to like 10, 11,000 yards, right, um, I think that has a lot.


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[Assistant] I know, I don't know if I sport the Mahomes, you know, he obviously kind of is his own thing, so I'm just rocking whatever this is, you know.


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[Assistant] Man, it was a dream come true. You know, uhm, I was very fortunate enough that, uh, you know, Tito had given me the opportunity, the front office gave me the opportunity and I'll, I'll, uh, you know, I'm always gonna...


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[Assistant] Thank them for that, but it was unbelievable. You know, I tell people that it's like playing, uh, playing like in a football game with 50,000 people. If you ever been down on a, on a, you know, college football field, NFL field, that's what the atmosphere was like, but it's unbelievable. Um, you know, for us to make that run and we're going to be able to make that run in the years to come.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I just think I've prepared so well and, you know, they obviously trust me enough to put me in that spot and try to take advantage of it, you know, every, you know, Garrett Cole obviously got the better of me a couple times and I won't forget about that, but uhm, but yeaah, no, it was,


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[Assistant] I, I don't know, just the dugout and just that, that team that we had is just, is way too much fun. And so, to go through the marathon 15-inning game, uhm, Oscar sends us to the, to ALDS with a homer, like it couldn't have, it couldn't have been written better, you know, it couldn't have been a better script.


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[Assistant] But that, the locker room celly afterwards was fantastic. I remember chasing miles around, uh, with a champagne bottle and I...


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[Assistant] Something's gonna happen. The guardian way of like, stringing hits together. All like, weird, scrappy singles. That's like, Bob Constance is up there, you know, like, all pissed off because it's a single.


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[Assistant] And you know, it's like they're trashing us and you can tell that, you know, they want the Yankees to win. That's fine. But uhm, you know, we come back and win that game and set us up for, for game five. And obviously it didn't work out, but you know.


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[Assistant] No, I agree. Uhm, you know, you're going to open up a lot of different holes for guys that use the whole field. Uhm, you're 100% correct. And also, just the fact that, you know, we had 16 guys make their debuts, however many position players, but we all played with these rules.


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[Assistant] So we all played with the bigger bases. We all played, we all played with the pickoff roll. We all played with the pitch clock. Like we were all kind of used to that through, you know, several hundred at-bats. And so.


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[Assistant] I've seen pictures, the reds look really good, but those home whites are so clean. And then I think I'll go with the home whites. They're, I don't know. And especially, I'm pretty sure those are mine.


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[Assistant] I think they'll say guardians on it. You guys might, you know, roast me on that. I don't know, but I would get that one. I'll get the one that I'll get the home whites.


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[Assistant] I don't know, they ran it in the Fall League and I hit with a couple guys that play in the Fall League and they seemed to like it. They seemed to, uh, like if something you feel is wrong, you can challenge it. Uhm, I don't know how you can challenge a robot, but, you know. I don't know, I-


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[Assistant] No, my, uh, my college roommate's getting married a couple days after, so I'll be flying on my birthday back home.


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[Assistant] I think, I think Benson won gold. I thought USA won gold, so I'm gonna go with, uh, I'd, Oscar Gonzales is a good... I'll go Aaron Savalle.


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[Assistant] I already finished up, so I'm about to go catch a flight, uhm, but, uh, I'm working on just all my weaknesses. You know, I'm gonna work on, uh, trying to hit high fast balls, I'm gonna continue to be able to hammer breaking balls, but I'm gonna work on my weaknesses, I'm gonna try and get a little faster, everyone kinda roasts me for being a little slow, uhm, so I'm gonna,


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[Assistant] Do that and then, you know, roll into spring training. I'm going to go a couple weeks early, try and get a head start.


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[Assistant] And get rolling. I know that we're gonna have some good competition, uh, within the team and it's gonna be just great to see everybody. So it'll be fun. It'll be a, it'll be a good spring rolling into the, rolling into the big time season, so.


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[Assistant] It would take me hours to say all of their names.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Miles Garrett, he loves to eat built bars. Can confirm he got some for Christmas using code locked on 15.


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[Assistant] And as we transition into Brown's talk, we'd like to remind everybody that Brown's talk is sponsored by Cuyahoga Community College. Tri-C supports the students financially, professionally, and personally, and opens up the door for endless possibilities. Tri-C is where futures start. Start now, classes begin January 17th, 2023.


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[Assistant] They all give you some money to play with at the beginning. Have fun. Alright, so our first question today comes from Tommy on our community tab, which remember, if you're a member, you can see all sorts of extra stuff on our YouTube community tab. Even when we're not on. Even when we're not on. We do stuff there all the time. We post shorts. It's a bunch of fun.


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[Assistant] Wondering how each of you got your start and what you love most about your job.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so from Brown's Guide 1999, if you guys could travel to anywhere in the world to escape the cold of Cleveland this weekend, where would it be and why?


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[Assistant] I believe we have Leroy, Robert Smith, and Dave Richards. Loving that confidence.


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[Assistant] Now they're rebuilding. In fact, we're going to start with the Cavs. We're going to do that in just a second, but uhm, little, uh, business to take care of. Jen Matthews is going to be here. We have opponent trivia this week. And she's going to have us trivia questions.


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[Assistant] I think that means clay is going to join with masters of gridiron costume.


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[Assistant] Also, we're gonna dive into the Brown Saints, uhm, and we're gonna DJ Hazmat's on the show. DJ is awesome. Every week, every single week after the game, win or lose.


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[Assistant] He produces a really high quality music video, original song, and he usually turns it by Tuesday.


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[Assistant] It's just nowhere near the same energy because, gee, that happened organically. Nobody named it the dog pound until Hanford Dixon realized those are dogs. Those are our dogs.


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[Assistant] And it was a different experience watching the game from there.


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[Assistant] It was before the game because Salt Lake was in town. He opened the diary on his time in Salt Lake and talked about racial, like, so,


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[Assistant] Just experiences that he had and experiences. He talked about a young boy who, or girl, I'm not sure, who committed suicide.


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[Assistant] Uh, because they were being bullied because of their skin color. And he talked about how one time he had a police altercation where he was pulled over. And as soon as they found out he was Donovan Mitchell, the whole tone changed. Oh bro, you're good. And the author of the piece, whose name escapes me right now, he writes a lot for CBS.


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[Assistant] Uh, made a point to basically say, this is no secret in NBA circles. This has been an experience for African-American players in Salt Lake for a very long time. Obviously, the black, the percentage of black population in Salt Lake is far different than it is in Cleveland. But I was, what surprised me was that he was so open about it.


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[Assistant] I'm one of them! And I saw it, and I had issues. It was just a really, it was a strong, strong take for a guy who generally comes off as being, I don't want to say PC, but he's always saying the right thing. And that's an intentional thing he did, obviously. Because it's not like that was off the cuff.


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[Assistant] I would too, he was a big piece. I'm trying to get some numbers from the game that I think speak to what you guys are talking about about how the crowd energizes this team. We already talked about the 15-2 best home record in the NBA.


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[Assistant] The Cavs shot 61%. Yeaah, they were on fire. The Jazz shot 39%. Yeaah. And that was just, that's a product of the crowd feeding the defensive effort of the Cavaliers from three point range.


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[Assistant] The Jazz shot 29%, the Cavs doubled that at 58%. You're gonna win all of your games if these are the numbers. Uh, 122.99.


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[Assistant] I thought the Mavericks just last week. I thought that was a pretty damn impressive deal.


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[Assistant] Because we're watching them have fun and it becomes more fun for us, the experience. Whether it's the TV or we're in the arena, it's that, that really rubs off. People love to watch other people have fun.


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[Assistant] Stemmed from who was getting the credit. Right. Yep. Like, who, who, you know, and, and I really thought


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[Assistant] They could have put down a hell of a legacy here. They really couldn't. They could have won. They could have won multiple championships. And who knows, if they stayed together and were still together, who knows what could have become from that. But to your point, Kyrie,


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[Assistant] I would not want to see that team in the playoffs if they were healthy.


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[Assistant] I think to call him Robin means like he's almost the wingman. You're right, he's better than that. Absolutely.


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[Assistant] I think that if you want, like the Cavs have now what you want. They have a well balanced team with a nice mix of veterans, young guys, superstars. I think they've got guys that fit into that category. I think that the balance on this Cavs team


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[Assistant] is really unlike anything we've seen. Even during the Lebron years, they had the triumphant of, uh, uh, Lebron, love, I would throw love in there, and Kyrie, but this team has depth, this team has up,


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[Assistant] Very few have done it. I mean, what we're talking about with Kevin Love. Kevin Love is doing it.


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[Assistant] Alright, we're at the bottom of the hour. That's where we were going to shift gears and go to the brown. So do you want to do your read here?


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[Assistant] I appreciate it. I've never seen a company advertise it. Nothing about our product, about how great we are. Wanna job? Uh huh.


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[Assistant] Well first of all, let's talk, let's tell them what we're talking about. Oh, for, for eight months, when I'm done with my Gatorade, I try to make it into the basket. And everybody else has started doing that, so now we're gonna do it officially, we're gonna end every show. We're gonna give you a reason to stick around to the very end.


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[Assistant] I would on live TV take the pencil and try to drop it standing up from my head level into the hole.


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[Assistant] It got to be a thing where a lot of the athletes when they came in said, let me try it. Only two guys tried it, made it on their first try. Steve Smith and Ocho Cinco.


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[Assistant] There are 17 outcomes that have to break favorably for the Browns. In one scenario.


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[Assistant] If the Browns make the playoffs, our lives change not at all. If you win the Powerball, your life, your children's lives, their children's lives, and their children's lives change dramatically forever.


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[Assistant] They're eliminated. Well, but they're only one game behind the Patriots. Right, but they would be two left and they couldn't catch them because they'd be tied and the Patriots had the tiebreaker.


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[Assistant] Guys, here's why we can't buy the fool's gold that's gonna happen, even if it does. Okay. Let's talk about the teams and the quarterbacks that are on the schedule right now that the Browns have to play. Right. So, Houston. Houston almost beat Kansas City.


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[Assistant] A pick in the first round and let's face it, those are the guys that change your life the most. Not to say you can't get someone in the second, third, fourth, fifth that will change your life, but the highest percentage chance of changing a team's life happens in the first round.


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[Assistant] Are, are we good with, you said to try to get bets down here? Betsy Clank, Chief Meteorologist.


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[Assistant] Like now? She can come down at 1230 and talk about the conditions for Saturday's game.


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[Assistant] Let's dive into the Brown Saints matchup and...


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[Assistant] See what, it's hard to get a handle on the Saints because they're, they're five wins, but this is for first place for them.


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[Assistant] Like we said, against every single team that the Browns have played this year, it's a game they could win, it's a game they could lose.


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[Assistant] Wow. Never seen a lower. I've never seen one lower over under. That's crazy. I've been looking at lines for 40 years. I've never seen one and a half.


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[Assistant] So you think the defense, the last couple of efforts, that's not a fluke. This is who the defense is now.


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[Assistant] Because Greg Roman lost his mind. What happened? He threw the ball 30 times and they ran for 200 yards. Why would they do that? I really don't understand.


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[Assistant] But gee, we've seen that the Browns defense is historically awful.


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[Assistant] And their run game is they've got two running backs that average nine yards per game. Even the in-game body of work was telling you


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[Assistant] I don't know why they ever threw the ball, and they got a backup quarterback who was terrible. Who was, as we were pressuring them, and we don't pressure, but we were adding more pressure than we normally do, and he was flustered. It was obvious, and yet Greg Roman just kept sending one pass play in after another.


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[Assistant] We all thought at one point in time that he was the answer. But I don't care. The biggest baker detractor you can find is lying to himself if he's not going to admit that at some point he watched this guy and said, we got him. For all the crushing the baker.


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[Assistant] Now they didn't give it to him that much. I mean, God, I don't think they had 200 yards off it. No. He had 120, 111 yards passing. I think they had 78 rushing yards.


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[Assistant] Yeah, the Packers, but I think that speaks more to, cause the Packers are challenged too. I think the Rams without Aaron Donald are just. Yeah, the Rams are terrible.


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[Assistant] I can't like make those kind of mistakes. Here's the weird thing though, and I didn't know this, I specifically wanted to look it up because I thought...


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[Assistant] He didn't even really roll the ball that much. He threw it 21 times. He had 12 completions. He had six drops, including one in the end zone on a possession where they didn't score. It was, I mean, so if you, if, are you sure about that? I thought the drop was the play before.


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[Assistant] It was. I'm counting the drop on the cross that he would have walked into the end zone.


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[Assistant] Wow, that's, that's a drop touchdown because if, if he catches it and hit him right where he needed to hit him.


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[Assistant] There's times where I watch this guy, and it's happened probably four or five times in his career, where I say he can make every throw. He's got a strong arm. Aikman talked about his arm strength yesterday.


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[Assistant] There's times where this guy looks like he's the solution. And then there's other times where I look at him and say,


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[Assistant] You know what, I would, I would like to see him with the full compliment, like I mentioned, 14th game, 15th different line combo. He used 23 different line men. Uhm, I would, I would have liked to seen him with Cooper Cupp last night.


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[Assistant] And so what if Cup and Aaron Donald were there? Is Baker then enough to get that team over? I don't know, but I'll tell you this.


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[Assistant] I think he sees things offensively that other coaches don't see. And I can only imagine how strong the allure is for him to say, this guy's a former Heisman winner. He's a former number one pick. He's won in the playoffs. He set the rookie record for passing touchdowns. He failed and failed.


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[Assistant] I've got this. So he's got the Father Flanagan mentality.


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[Assistant] Now, the other thing, the reason I talk about McVeigh and the Rams and Baker is I do think it's that marriage made in heaven. Because of Stafford's injury, the spinal cord injury, which he hasn't, he said he's not going to retire, but there's also a likelihood that he could re-injure


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[Assistant] The same, he could suffer the injury again and it could be much more serious. But Baker is the answer to what the Rams woes are. They don't know who their quarterback is going to be moving forward.


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[Assistant] I can't believe you left that out. I thought for sure you'd go there because of your college basketball ball.


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[Assistant] Okay with that, are you okay with that? Because the unlikelyhood of Mariano flowing is


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[Assistant] When I was leaving the Marlins-Indians Game 7, I've never ever had the desire to injure a woman physically.


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[Assistant] out of touch florida one percenters, you know, the, the, the shoulder ass sweater, the sweater ties. Lovey. What an experience this evening. And the woman in front of me said,


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[Assistant] Pete Carroll allowed that to happen when he went for it on fourth and one around midfield instead of either punting. But even if you want to go for it, I get it. Even though Vince Young's on the other side, I'll never forget the image just before the play


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[Assistant] Is Pete Carroll on the sidelines with his Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush standing right next to him.


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[Assistant] because Reggie White was attention. So when you ne to not have rich, okay, y the ball, you want to go Bush, you want to give it I get that. But Reggie Bu on the field for no other


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[Assistant] No. It was, it was, it was like, it was like the Colts.


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[Assistant] and make us watch. Yeah, like we all love football. So we're going to watch that no matter what. But the soccer thing, I wanted it to be a bad game when I turned it on with 60, with 60 minutes in so I could say, ah, shit, I don't have to watch it. I don't need to watch it. But it was as soon as I turned it on,


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[Assistant] with the sport, not with the game itself. The only way the match could have been better for me was if it came down to the last kicker in the penalty kick. Because France had missed two, it was over prematurely. I wanted it to come down to that fifth kicker.


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[Assistant] The drama was unbelievable. And one of the coaches, managers involved had ended one of the previous longest droughts in the history of sports.


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[Assistant] DJ Hazmat, um, I don't know if you've heard that entire discussion. We're talking about great games. And by the way, great to see you again, brother. Great to see you again.


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[Assistant] How y'all doing? Do you have thoughts on that? Like the greatest championship game seven or deciding game ever. Bull wants the Cubs Indians higher. I'm fine with the Cavs Warriors from 16 being number one. Oh, that should definitely be there too. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, it's only happened twice where a team has lost game seven and extra innings and of course both times it was the Indians. So before we dive into the interview with DJ, for those of you that don't know, you should, shame on you, DJ has


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[Assistant] He's built an incredible following off of his musical talents. Every week after the Browns game, win or lose, he writes an original song, writes the music,


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[Assistant] And then puts together a video to the song and he's usually done like in...


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[Assistant] 48 hours, I don't know how he turns this quality this fast. But before we dive into questions, cause I know we all have some for you DJ.


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[Assistant] Let's play your most recent masterpiece. This is off of the Browns victory over the Ravens. And I know you haven't done many of those videos in your time because those videos are few and far between, but let's roll the video and then we'll talk on the backside of it.


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[Assistant] In, in round figures, how many pieces of Brown's gear, just Cleveland sports gear do you have? Cause I've seen videos where you have like 15 different outfits on and I'm just thinking G Bush has the biggest Brown's, uh, year


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[Assistant] Wardrobe that I know, but I think you're probably topping out more than, more than jeez.


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[Assistant] Has, has fire off your, uh, your Twitter handle and so if people that don't follow you can and for companies that may want to get geared to you, what's, what's the easiest way to, to, to reach you?


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[Assistant] And Bernie went through a practice snap and no one was watching the game. They were watching Mike and Bernie practice the snap, uh, quarterback exchange. And when he got it and backed up the whole place with applause.


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[Assistant] My God, that is absolutely great. Alright, let's do trivia, Jen. Here we go.