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[Assistant] Here's rankings one through five. Brandon Bean of Buffalo, number one. Les Snead of the Rams, number two. Kevin Colbert of Pittsburgh, number three. Brian Gutenkirch of Green Bay, number four. And Jason Light of Tampa Bay at number five. Let me ask you a question.


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[Assistant] Well, when you see 6 through 10, it's also a little weird because Belichick comes in at number 10.


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[Assistant] We've got Alexander, Aaron Jones, uh, AJ Dillon. These are all second, second third round picks. They've been pretty good drafting.


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[Assistant] Let's just run this real quick. Brett Veece from Kansas City, six, Loomis in New Orleans, seven, Duke Tobin, Cincinnati, eight, Tom Tolesco.


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[Assistant] Well that's my point. Barry's at 18. So even based on a trash list. Appropriate, too high, too low. What do you think?


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[Assistant] Oh wait, guys, I have a hand up big mistake. Yeah, this is something's wrong here. I took last year's list. Oh my god. Hand up, huge mistake.


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[Assistant] This will not happen again. And if it does, I will cut off the other piece of hair that I promised to cut off if Danny Green doesn't play in game two. I am sorry. Okay, here's the 2023 list. Steve, get me off the full screen. Howie Roseman at number one. Much better. Brett Veach, Kansas City, number two. Much better. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Tom Tolesco of the Chargers, DaCosta of the Ravens at 13, Loomis dropped significantly from that first list.


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[Assistant] Chris Greer, 15 of the Dolphins, Joe Douglas of the Jets, 16.


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[Assistant] GM Chris Ballard also dropped 10 spots from 8 to 18. And then coming in at 19.


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[Assistant] 25. So he's 19 out of 25. I'll read you the little snippet on uh, Barry.


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[Assistant] If Watson doesn't play a lot better in 2023, Barry could be looking for another head coach or could be in trouble himself, despite a lot of other very smart decisions. The drafts have been solid and Barry has a nose for wide receiver trade value. I love.


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[Assistant] Love the move for Elijah Moore. This roster is back to looking more complete on offense and spicier on defense, but Watson will define this organization for years to come and everyone knows it.


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[Assistant] The list is created by Greg Rosenthal Who is this guy?


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[Assistant] It is 1225, which means it's time to remind everybody that the Lunch Hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is sponsored by Colleague Racing, the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio.


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[Assistant] And we teased him earlier in the show. Little timing, mix up. One schedule said one thing, another said another, but we do have.


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[Assistant] Matt now joining us to talk fantasy baseball here for a few minutes. What's up Matt? Sorry about the, uh, confusion.


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[Assistant] We do. That means we have our next guest joining us now brought to us by the USFL. The season is underway. Get your tickets.


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[Assistant] Ask him how he got the nickname. Hall of Famer Joe Thomas.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you on the third show, Joe Thomas just kind of called me McNuggets. And then when hall of fame or Joe Thomas calls you something, it just sticks. So.


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[Assistant] My real question is this though, G Bush, humble guy, he played in the Mac defensive tackle, he knows the ins and outs of that position.


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[Assistant] He, uh, he sacked Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Lefwich, some other big time quarterbacks when he was playing.


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[Assistant] Who is the biggest name quarterback you ever sack boogie? Oh, that's a good one. College, high school pros.


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[Assistant] The USFL spokesperson, we were setting up the interview and was like, I got a guy you guys are gonna love.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. And I thought he did a great job. The guy who played Magic. What's that? The actor in Showtime. Yeaah. Was phenomenal.


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[Assistant] Earl's upstairs, uh, I gotta look up the race report, I'll be totally honest. Okay. Uh, but it is 12.50, it's time to remind you guys about Collie Gracie and the fact that they are the official NASCAR sponsor of Northeast Ohio.


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[Assistant] Guys, this weekend, Bull, myself, G, and Jason Lloyd went out to the Great Lakes Collector's Convention.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it was cool, and I heard the turnout on Saturday was huge. I was stunned, guys. Hundreds and hundreds. They said over 500 people.


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[Assistant] That's what I want to get to real quick. And Gee, I'm going to let you chime in. We had a table set up. We did a panel with Jonathan Peterlin, uh, upstage on the interactive card table. We went for about an hour, just talking. Had some people come in. We did some fan questions. We had our table. We gave out a bunch of t-shirts, came over, got to meet a ton of UCSS fans.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna say something I'll let you guys go real quick and you guys have been in Cleveland a lot longer and have had much more successful media careers than I have at this point. It's always cool when you talk to people and


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[Assistant] Sometimes we just think we're doing a job, but we met a guy yesterday. Two I wanna shout out. We met a truck driver yesterday who said he...


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[Assistant] Drives every morning and the best two hours of his day. He's in the car for 16 hours. He puts us on.


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[Assistant] Shout out to my truck driver. Shout out to my truck driver. Exactly. We all have that truck driver in our lives. That's mine. Well, he's our official truck driver. And, uh, it was cool. And then also I want to shout out this guy named butters because butters and, uh, he sat it on the live taping of our panel. Right. And then.


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[Assistant] He came over, asked us to sign a shirt. It was cool. We'll show you a picture. He also got me a McNuggets keychain.


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[Assistant] It's literally a chicken nugget. He's like, McNuggets, I got something for you reaching his pocket. I was like, I'm going to die. Wow. Shoot me. But he pulled out a McNugget key chain. It feels like a real chicken nugget, which is kind of creepy. Just don't eat it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's not, but this is really cool, thank you, butters of the man, and, uh,


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[Assistant] Really nice guy. Great, great dude. We met a guy named Sean who said he talked to you on Saturday, Jay. Met a, met, no joke, you know, 50 to 100 people who came over. Just wanted to hang out.


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[Assistant] It was like, hey Robert, can you drop me this picture? And he framed it, it was awesome. G. Bush, exclusive G. Bush Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, the barber shop, radio person, awesome.


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[Assistant] I do, yep, and the race report as always is brought to us by Colleague Racing, the official NASCAR team in Northeast Ohio. I got the results, Jeff Gordon won the race, Dale Earnhardt Jr. came- I'm just kidding, that's the 1999 day.


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[Assistant] And the Newark Police Department, and we're talking about the 70s, I guess the 60s, they treated African Americans very unfair. Truly unfair. That's the culture, and particularly dealing with white policemen.


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[Assistant] So here's the, here's the story. So you say that not many people have money, plenty of people have money, right? You just don't know about it. Let me just tell you. Well, what's the number?


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[Assistant] The problem, Jay, the problem is the people that got the money writing the rules. They do make the rules. They're making the rules.


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[Assistant] And so they go always stay winning. Right? So this is the deal here. I looked at Jimmy Hazlip's number. Jimmy Hazlip brought the team for about $900 million, right?


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[Assistant] Is that Forbes has evaluated for hundred, uh, four billion dollars for the Cleveland Browns. Now, when you go to a place like Washington, you're not even taking in the, you're not even taking that account. The media market he's in merchandise. He's selling all this DC thing. It's a cornerstone franchise. Oh, there's no question.


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[Assistant] That's a big check. No question. That's a big check. But if you're, but you're a shareholder, you talk magic, you're a shareholder here.


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[Assistant] Even your little piece, if you stay trending as it's trending, he gonna make a significant sum of money.


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[Assistant] Well, you can't, you know, it's not bad. Yeah, but you know, it changes here.


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[Assistant] You know, with the, if you just talk about the NCAA, you go to basketball. I mean, the press reporter changed the whole thing. You have a Tina that that's why the underdogs are winning. That looks like garbage and then they look like, oh my God, where'd you get these dudes from? That's exactly right.


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[Assistant] Well, I just think, first of all, let me just preface what I'm about to tell you.


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[Assistant] No, concern, I'm not concerned because I have the Cavs, I've always had the Cavs winning. Okay. 4-2, right? A 4-5 matchup is always the toughest matchup. It really is the toughest matchup.


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[Assistant] So in this case here, what, and I won't even put, I don't even put money on the home court because if you watch it in the play in the home court is not really having an effect here. No, your, your biggest X factor for the Cavaliers is just this. If Donovan Mitchell plays like he's supposed to play and you bought what you thought you were buying.


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[Assistant] That's their biggest fear because they're waiting for this thing. They've seen it.


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[Assistant] I've seen it with Cartwright and Ewing. I've seen the whole thing, right? I've seen the thing implode on them, right? Because when it comes down, it comes down on a ton of bricks. My biggest fear is this.


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[Assistant] Making sure that no one gets shell shocked early. Cause the, the gain of half, to put everything right.


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[Assistant] We better get gang one out the box. You aren't kidding. You better get gang one out the box.


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[Assistant] So who, who off the Knicks bench are you impressed with? I like, I like them as a collective. Well, but the thing is, like, once you get to this point, how deep will Tibbs' rotation go? This is a matchup game. This is based on here. This is not based on 82 games. This is based in the minute.


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[Assistant] How the next five minutes go, right? Because if this thing goes like it's supposed to go, if Donald Mitchell does what he's supposed to do leading the way and the others, I don't need you to do more than you could do. Just do what you do.


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[Assistant] Jared Allen, you stand there and block some shots and give me some rebounds. Evan Moley, do what you do since the All-Star break. Just do that, right? And then Karis Levert, don't fade away on me. The last since the All-Star game, since the trade deadline, you've been money, right? Stay money on me, right?


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[Assistant] It would be helpful if I had a wingman, but here this I'm playing with what I got, right? So what I got is a dude who can go, right? I'm not sitting out here fooling around because you know, sometimes these coaches Pat Riley comes to mind like born, you know, had that book born to coach. How about born to over coach, right? Don't do it. Here's the deal. I have a closer, right? Dearest Garland.


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[Assistant] That's how we won. That same way. Don't get out of that. It used to be a time, Jay, when you play an NBA player, it went to a defensive presence in the game. The game went from a high scoring game like the Pistons.


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[Assistant] No disrespect to you, all right? No disrespect to you, right? There's a cadence to this pro game, right? This ain't the why, right? We ain't playing down with it, the why.


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[Assistant] There's a cadence here, right? Defensively. That is that error is gone. I just saw a highlight the other day with Robin checking, uh, uh, morning in the post, right? Oh, they don't let you do that no more.


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[Assistant] So let me, let me ask you this. All right. So if I named, if I asked you to name me to the top five defensive players. No, it's not that kind of game. You couldn't give it to me.


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[Assistant] I think we're a better defensive team than what I'm looking at coming out of New York. I'll take Jared Allen, Evan Moley, Stevenson. I'll take O'Coro. I will take uh, Rubio at times.


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[Assistant] I hope so. I'm expecting for some, some, some the guys who have been around. Yeah, they kind of lead the thing. The other thing I'm concerned. I'm not concerned about. Let me change that. I'm not concerned, but I have my eye on right because everybody can panic here.


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[Assistant] I don't need JB to panic here, right? No, that's key.


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[Assistant] Don't panic here. We here now. Because what happened, I watched that he's playing games.


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[Assistant] And I probably, Mikey, I'll probably don't attribute it to, okay, there's some defense.


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[Assistant] But what I attributed to is the game by game adjustments that are being made. Yeah. So you came out put 115 on me the first day, right? Right at the second game. I can't let you come on put 115 on me. So I'm going to make some junk adjustment here to bring that down. Right? And that's what accumulates to the lower score because you just trying to get


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[Assistant] Let me say why I believe the biggest game here is game one.


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[Assistant] One, you have to get the win, right? And you get the win not just to start off in the right way.


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[Assistant] When they roll in, when the Cleveland Cavaliers roll into the Madison Square Garden. If you've never played there in a playoff game.


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[Assistant] I ain't going to lie. It is like being on Broadway. I ain't going to lie. It is, the crowd is going to be in a frenzy and they can get to such a frenzy. It can alter the game, right? The other thing I'll tell you, just listen, the whole thing is real. The lights get dimmed in the crowd. The lights are on the court. It's like you're being in a play.


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[Assistant] And what I don't want to see occur because it can work the other way. Donovan Mitchell who is near the air from near the area.


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[Assistant] He killed him. He could like because you know, he plays a fiscal game. Now, who's going to match that on this side? We don't have an answer for that.


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[Assistant] And he go to thugging and then the referees let him get the thug game.


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[Assistant] You're gonna hit Alan and Moby. Let me see what happens. He, he watched this. I wanna see what happens. I wanna see what happens. We're gonna see Derek Scarlett get knocked out. We're gonna see what happens. Because if we stand out here and let them have their way.


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[Assistant] We're too athletic. We got too much going to, I mean, we lobbing, we breaking you off the dribble. So now how do I counteract that? I play a real physical game. That's why I say thugging, right? Because yeah, and it depends on how the referee calls it. If he letting us bang around, right? Because be clear, everyone out here TV land, be clear.


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[Assistant] Two, three decades. So let me stop everybody. It'll fix in the game. There's no fix again. But I can speak to this, right? Bulls Cavaliers 89, the series of the shot.


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[Assistant] We're staying in the Beachwood Marriott, right? And this is going for game five, that final shot game.


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[Assistant] Scotty Pippen and I, and I forgot who I think was Horace. We're sitting in the lobby because we got a lot of time. Okay, we don't already practice. We got a lot of time again. I lived up the street in Warrensville. My mother and them lived in Warrensville. I didn't go home. I just stayed at the hotel with the guys, right? It was around the corner. So we're sitting in the lobby because we're tired of sitting in the room.


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[Assistant] CBS, this was when the game was on CBS Sports, on CBS.


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[Assistant] The CBS executive, uh, sports president and one of the guys from the NBA, they're staying in the same hotel we're staying in because that was the hotel.


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[Assistant] We're sitting there just talking. They walk in. They see us and they walk over to us and the guy says this to us. The guy from CBS says this. Come on, y'all.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna need y'all to win. Wow. Cause we cannot have Cleveland playing New York in the semi-finals.


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[Assistant] And that's the rule, not the exception. And I sat there, I did like this. I was, I was, I was pissed. I was like, I was like,


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[Assistant] And this is, and this is, and here, like I tell people, there's no fixing it. This is how it works. This is how it works, right? The guys are just playing, but there are things circling around on the periphery that people are taking into consideration here.


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[Assistant] They're building a product. Yeah, right. But in this product of the final game, the people tuned in this high number to see the stars play. Sure. Well, you didn't find out all the stars. The stars sitting on the sidelines. They ruined that. That is the, because the TV people are like, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. You think they didn't get to this CA and be like, hey, hey, hey, you better get a better crew in there because this is not what we paying for here. I felt


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[Assistant] And this is why when you get to the NBA playoffs, they have the best of the best. And the old heads know the deal. They're like, we're not here to play. The impact of the game like that in general.


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[Assistant] They're officiated differently like this because you had a lot of older people who had been around for a long time, 20, 30 years. Tony Brothers. I mean they had been there for a long time. And so that was here, and the veteran guys know this, right?


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[Assistant] They know how to control the game, not to let it get out of control. And it's how you work the game. Like, you two banging with one another.


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[Assistant] Alright, and then we got out of bounds.


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[Assistant] I gotta, I told you I was gonna clean it up. You gotta stop all that. Right. Then you respect it. But then you get some young people that come in here and immediately after where they're blowing a whistle on you. Yeah, you got two files. You have three minutes. You change the whole dynamic.


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[Assistant] Well, it depends. If you got a young crew, the pressure.


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[Assistant] Cause you're gonna get the pressure from the crowd and everything else, the environment.


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[Assistant] You know, you may not, you may be, you may be, but you may have a young person in that crew in the crew, right? It is the, it is the ones that understand the moment. Like we're not being influenced here, but we understand the mission. The mission is let the game be resolved right here. Now this thing here. I will just tell you.


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[Assistant] We better meet the moment of game one here, Jay. Because if you don't meet the moment of game one here, it's going to be a problem for us. Cause you're going to be two games


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[Assistant] I'm expecting the people in Cleveland to be at a frenetic pace here at Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse.


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[Assistant] I have played a game, a playoff game in Cleveland, it was at the Coliseum, that game five was at a frenetic


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[Assistant] I hate that it was electric in the Coliseum. So I know it can be done here. The thing I will say this. We see it here. Is this.


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[Assistant] That's a long time in between games. Yeah, right. So if you're a veteran crew, you may know. It's been a long time, right? It was 12 days. I was glad to see Jared Allen and Evan Mobley playing. I said, let me play in the last game. It's a little work. I play long, but I got some work here, but it's a long layoff.


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[Assistant] So we, if we score, gee, if we score 105 points in the game, I'm gonna bet you're gonna give me what, 35?


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[Assistant] Okay, so then you still got another 70 you gotta produce. If they start letting you thug this game out, be real physical in this game here, what is going to happen?


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[Assistant] Right. And so we don't know. You don't know enough. You don't know in the first quarter where this thing is going. The other thing is you look on the other side of New York Brunson from Villanova. He ain't scared. No, no. Jews ran away from Kentucky and like he's scared.


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[Assistant] They've been in big moments. They've been in big places. Sure. Everybody on our side ain't been in big places. Most haven't. They have not. Most have not. Right. So this is what we have to, that's why you need the guidance from the sideline to work the quarter by quarter.


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[Assistant] I'm counting on Bernie Bickerstad to be in JBZ.


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[Assistant] And there's nothing against his staff. I think his staff does an excellent job. But here, I am a proponent for always having a veteran guy on the sideline in your ear. Your bench coach. Somebody who's been there and because you're not going to get excited. I've seen this drill a hundred times and we don't have that.


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[Assistant] Chibs has it because he's had the experience of being a side guy. He's that guy. So he's the guy, right? So we're going to find out a lot about people here.


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[Assistant] Have you tuned in to New York Radio here? No. Oh my God.


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[Assistant] If after two games it was not 1-1, a 4-5 matchup dictates that that probably is going to happen, right? Those two are the most evenly matched teams in the playoffs. That's typically what it is, right?


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[Assistant] So I would not be shocked if it went seven. I would not be shocked if it was a split at home, right? It was turns the dynamic back to New York. So this is going to be quite interesting.


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[Assistant] No, I don't tip here. I say you may have the best player on it. It depends on who's on the other side because I can understand. Gee, you can take people out of the game in just minutes, right? You just need to win in minutes. These games are there close. They come down in a minute.


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[Assistant] Let me see, the thing about that, which is Sir Brunson is on a mission.


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[Assistant] See, if you don't know the story about him and his departure out of Dallas. Yes, right. How Cuban didn't want to pay him the money. He forced him. Now he has a chance to get a deal was wrong. So he's like, I'm proving everybody wrong. That's right. So he's playing with a chip on his shoulder, right? And his chip.


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[Assistant] Well he's a high volume, Randall is a high volume shooter. So he's going to shoot more times than Mobley, right? But the question is again, can you see you've seen Randall self implode too. That's why I think he is the


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[Assistant] When Joel LMB was here the last time, right? That's another one. He went to the physicality game on him. And we folded like a chief suit. And we folded like, we folded up.


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[Assistant] Right, so I'm saying, and the only way you can get that off, the referee in the stripe, he got to be letting you get it off, right? So if he called, if he called a loose game.


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[Assistant] I got the self taking down the hawks, right? And, and, and probably six, probably sixers, we at four one. I got


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[Assistant] I've got Minnesota of eating the thunder. Okay. Right. And then I see, I see they got religion and say, go where you come on back here with us.


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[Assistant] Sorry Memphis. That's great. You're going Lakers. That's great for TV. It is great for TV.


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[Assistant] I like, uh, your boy Memphis, they talk too much.


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[Assistant] Mike, they sit in the league office because they have a big board where they lay out all the possibilities here. Our what ifs, our dreams scenario. They sit out here like, get ready to sell these, get ready to sell these.


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[Assistant] Explain to the people out here when you get the scenario matchup that you look, the price that they charge, they've already figured out what the pricing is for different scenarios.


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[Assistant] Ze, tell me what, what, what, what warrior's phoenix is. I forgot phoenix.


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[Assistant] And the hatred. And that's why I said the refereeing crew in all sports. And they know that. It's critical. You cannot have that product sitting on the sidelines. It cannot be there.


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[Assistant] I mean, I mean, here, we have to kind of figure out who the people are, but A's got good numbers across the board.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so here's the other side of my, are you standing, Eastern Conference matchup, are you talking about? I know, I know. We're going to cross the line.


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[Assistant] Who's more, who's, who you say? You say, uh, Moses Moore Garnett?


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[Assistant] And you put anything. I was just listening to you talk about the lower market. You know, Andrew Reese was on Maryland Sing.


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[Assistant] You got, you got, they typically probably had five WNBA player.


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[Assistant] And in order for all of them to coexist, you have to give up some of your game, right?


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[Assistant] Everybody don't want to do that, right? Because that, that is not success to them, right? Right. So people need to breathe and they want to move on. Well, she leaves. Diamond Miller game goes this way. Cheyenne games go this way, right? So that's how it works. But I'm just saying that's why you can't always look at numbers. Yeah, can't do it.


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[Assistant] Well Art, what Art was fighting against was economic change of the game. He was not going to have enough money to play the game the way that...


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[Assistant] Part of it, he was so entrenched in this community.


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[Assistant] Cleveland hadn't seen one of the real cutthroat owners that come through here and be like, you ain't doing nothing. You doing everything. Right? That's, cause that's how they play it now.


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[Assistant] You're like he couldn't even when he tried to probably muscle a deal out. They were like, yeah, it's cute.


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[Assistant] And it's not even getting out, it's here, you're cashing out. Yea, I'm cashing out. Cause you're gonna cash out to a win. Because the game now is played on an all sports level, not just baseball.


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[Assistant] You need a higher profile owner with more deep pockets because this is where it's trending. The salaries are trending. This is trending. The stadiums are trending.


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[Assistant] I don't care if we play in the parking lot if we win. No, this is portal business. You always have to stay winning. So you're, you're always in the recruitment game here, right? Your facilities. You've been at the facilities in Berea.


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[Assistant] There ain't nothing special. Well, they are upgrading this facility. So I'm saying you have that upgrade and you go to some of these other places. Go out to the with the calves out independent.


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[Assistant] You see what I'm saying? That's the difference. I feel it. So when I'm recruiting players to come here, right?


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[Assistant] Everything's first class. You saw those surveys. They're like, oh, those surveys didn't come out like great here. I think that they had to see if you're not paying this. You're not having a first class facility. You better have something.


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[Assistant] The discussion point is, do you want this or should we be looking at something else? Because if we are at some point going to something else, if you don't do it now, 15 years from now, it's going to cost you X. That's why I was surprised that they're going to


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[Assistant] Then with the smoke, I'm just saying somebody talking about, I said, it doesn't, it don't cost you anything to talk about it. I said, they have never pulled this community to be like, what is it that you prefer? Look, I'm six years old. What I'm not going to do.


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[Assistant] Not bad for the rest of the American League.


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[Assistant] They get hurt. I asked that question a couple of weeks ago. I said okay, the pitch clock is great for the fans, right?


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[Assistant] But you're now asking a guy to speed up his thing. So now the rest in between his pitches. That's gone. You're doing repetition on these same muscles and same throwing that you're going to wear something out quicker, right? And that's what's going to occur.


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[Assistant] You're wrong. You're kidding yourself. You're kidding yourself. I would just tell you, you're right. So if you speed up the rep, something's going to get.


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[Assistant] Question is how you deal with how it gives, but to sit here and ignore that it's not factual and it's not happening. Well, you know, people will be like, that's not, you know, that's not going to occur. Yes, it is going to occur. It's not still going to occur.


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[Assistant] Until you get to a room where you understand this is what, because you have to train like that. Right now these guys aren't training like that. They're doing it on the fly in front of you.


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[Assistant] I hate that I understood that. No, not the same bees. I'm just classifying them as fish to provide them more environmental protections. Why don't you just give more protections to the bees?


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[Assistant] I would apologize to the great people of Cleveland, to all my fellow coworkers and friends on this here show. You know, I was emotional, I was a little out of pocket, and I got checked as I should have. That won't ever happen to you.


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[Assistant] Yes, uh, Devin White. We laugh right now, but Devin White is no laughing matter. Devin White is a guy, uhm, who has said, look.


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[Assistant] Now, we don't know if he's doing the Greg Newsome thing or he is really requesting a trade. We'll figure it out in a couple of days, but we'll take his word for it. Devon White requested a trade per Pro Football Focus. Now, Devon White has won a Super Bowl, uh, supremely athletic. I believe he is on his, is he on his fourth or fifth year?


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[Assistant] Going into his fifth year. He's going into his fifth year. That means he wants a new contract. Linebackers aren't getting them type of deals. Uhm, is Devin White a person, uh, Jason that's on your radar? No. Dang. No.


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[Assistant] Uh, you said preliminarily, this might be something that you will look at. Devin White, uh,


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[Assistant] Your thoughts, uhm, with, uh, you know, Devin White. Is he somebody on your radar?


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[Assistant] Uhm, I'm torn. Actually, no I'm not. The linebacker corps for the Cleveland Browns, I don't even know who y'all got at this point. Y'all got some people, but right now if camp started, you got Tony Fields ballin'.


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[Assistant] Yeah, see here's what you, like, PFF grades, right? So the thing they don't take in account for is this. They don't got the call sheet.


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[Assistant] And if you ain't got the call, see, you don't know really, like, you really don't know what gap I'm supposed to be in. Like, I could be supposed to be in a gap, but I just got cut off.


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[Assistant] Or you could have been, hey, this was my A-gap. Like, you don't know what the exact call is. It's a little educated guessing going on.


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[Assistant] And he got the speed to do it. McNuggets, what is he in the pass game? Is this, we, we weren't talking about run game. Is he a, is he a pass?


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[Assistant] So, to me, I look at it like this.


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[Assistant] Every move that I'm making, I'm looking at it like this, can Jim Schwartz get the most out of him? If, if Jim Schwartz goes to, cause I think Jim Schwartz has, has that ability. I think Jim Schwartz, he looked at the tape and he basically said, okay, Kevin, these are the guys I think I can win with.


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[Assistant] Jim Schwartz comes out and says, let me watch the tape. And he doesn't move on him. I'm fine with him not moving on him. But if he comes to him and say, look, I think this guy could be somebody. I think this guy can be thriving my defense.


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[Assistant] I kick the tires on him because one thing you do need, he has speed, he does move around a lot, and sometimes PFF can be a little overrated, but at the end of the day, I will say this though, I'm nervous at the fact that it's a contract.


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[Assistant] There is something to be said for the fact that they went and made, uhm, D.R. Jones.


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[Assistant] They went and kicked the tires on Deion Jones. I forget what they gave the Falcons. Guess what?


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[Assistant] And he gave you nothing. Nothing. So if he, if they gave up something for him, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think that, I think that three is gonna be packaged material to get up to get somebody of impact. Now here's the thing about David White.


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[Assistant] And can you count on the fact that, look at it, hey, you tell him, look, it's a contract year. I'm sure he'll be on his best.


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[Assistant] I mean, he has the skills, um, can you imagine if Jim Schwartz can get the speed and athleticism together between J.O.K. and this guy, and both of them.


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[Assistant] Could the money be better used other places? Like to me, I still, so this is the way I think of it. The part of the team that is the most important is the office.


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[Assistant] And I feel like, am I crazy for thinking that they need another receiver? Or if there was a receiver, somebody in the draft that was available, that you would say, oh, I'll take that receiver. Give me that guy.


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[Assistant] No, like, but, but honestly, guys, so, so let's, let's, let's wrap it up and say this. Uhm, what are the, what are the percentage chance, uh, Tyvis, they make this move or they are interested in him?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would, I would think that they're trying to get a little bit younger. They, they kind of punting on, you know, they want to be about eight and eight or whatever. I don't think they're doing a major, like a all out, all out and out tank, but I think they're not trying to bring nobody back. But I will say this.


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[Assistant] I don't think Wyatt Teller has the most trade upside. The guy that has the most trade upside is the guy that we was talking about yesterday, Greg Newsom.


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[Assistant] He got all the trade value. Uh, I mean, he has, he has, and he played well. He could play in a slot. He could play on the outside. He's young. He's a former first round pick. Now people don't want to hear that, but he, to me,


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[Assistant] What if Jeff Okuda, what if that trade happened? Fifth round pick.


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[Assistant] Especially a guy like Greg. What is this new game? What is this game talking about? We did this last month.


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[Assistant] I don't know what to be kidding. I'mma keep Herbert. That's where I was leaning. I'm keeping Herbert. I'm trading.


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[Assistant] I had to trade Lamar Jackson because I think I could get more out of Lamar Jackson than Deshaun Wilder.


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[Assistant] I'm speaking, I'm speaking as a, as a, uh, financial advisor here right now. As a consultant, if I want to get the maximum return, Herbert C. Young is he's on a rookie deal. And it's going to be more than Deshawn. But here's the thing.


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[Assistant] He's younger. He's on a rookie deal. I ain't paying him. I ain't paying him next year.


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[Assistant] But guess what, I'ma keep him, right?


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[Assistant] Lamar Jackson, he's Andrew Pone, all the above. Yeah, I heard twice. But that was sick. Hey, I'm not knocking it. He's been an MVP, but I feel like today, if you ask general managers and you said,


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[Assistant] Which one of these players could you get the most back from in a straight up trade? First of all, they don't even like the 230. They keep saying that 230. We didn't heard that. They're allergic to it.


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[Assistant] Lamar Jackson, they could give him a new deal and he'll be happy to go play. So this whole, your whole argument is about contracts.


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[Assistant] You think somebody with the same tag that Lamar Jackson got?


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[Assistant] Yeah, Jacksonville came back in historic L. Patrick Mahomes came back on Deshaun Watson historic L.


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[Assistant] You could get the most for Herbert. And on top of that. You could get the most for Herbert. That's why I would trade him.


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[Assistant] So take it or leave it. So you would give him 5231 completely guaranteed? Yep. Alright, well you, you, there you go. Do you guys want to hear Bull's answer?


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[Assistant] Bow and iron alignment. That, that's a tough one.


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[Assistant] I only think you can get about, you might be able to get about a third for Derrick Henry at this point. That's why I'm cutting it.


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[Assistant] Here's what I'ma do. First of all, don't get it twisted. I ain't about to get me ran up out of here, bro. One Nicholas Chubb isn't going anywhere.


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[Assistant] He gets a lifetime, lifetime contract from the Duke of New Jersey. We givin' him that Udonis Haslem contract. So he gon' be a goon that come off the bench.


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[Assistant] And give me that short yardage, just handed to Nick Chubb. He gon' put him in to do quarterback sneaks. He's never going nowhere, lifetime deal. But I'm gonna have to cut, uh, Derrick Henry. Too much tread.


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[Assistant] Uh, too many injuries. Uh, smart man. Uh, he's been, and by the way, Nick Saban ran, ran, ran the brakes off of him too. He ran a ball a hundred thousand times in Alabama.


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[Assistant] I don't see an off-ramp from Nick Chubb. Like, I can foresee Nick Chubb being like 32. Well, I think that- And he is like still the starting running back.


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[Assistant] Uh, yeaah, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta say that too. Uhm, you're not gonna get nothing from Mari Cooper except some outdated wedding invitations. Uhm, they're not...


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[Assistant] And he's had no quarterback. McLaurin's never had a good quarterback. Can you imagine what Terry McLaurin would do with like Patrick Mahomes? Silly. Or Josh Allen? Yea.


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[Assistant] Hey bro, they keep telling me, uh, they keep telling me Junior Baker Mayfield is good. Sam Howe looks just like Baker Mayfield. He does. No, he does. Same game, same facial.


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[Assistant] They put a helmet on, they look exactly like. Sorry, I'm not, I ain't agreeing with it. No, no.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's between Ayuk and Amari Cooper. Bull's allowed to be wrong.


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[Assistant] That's a me. Elijah Moore thousand. That's a me.


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[Assistant] I'ma, I'ma keep Evan E. Groom, I'm gonna trade, uh, I'ma trade in Joe Groom, and I'ma cut fire move.


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[Assistant] Hey chat, you can't even get, you can't even come up with this. This is, I don't know.


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[Assistant] I'm keeping, uhm, I'm keeping, oof. I'm keeping Miles. I'm keeping Miles.


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[Assistant] The most unquestionable upside. TJ White almost broke the sack record last year. I ain't hearing it. I ain't hearing it. That ain't even an option. To me, I'm cutting TJ White.


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[Assistant] He's not because he's not a good ballplayer. One, because he's been injured more than the rest of the guys. Uhm, I'll say this.


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[Assistant] I'm trading Micah Parsons because I feel like I can get two ones from somebody. I feel like Micah Parsons low-key got quarterback value. Like, like he the only dude right now that you can get two ones with. Ah, you get two ones from mine.


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[Assistant] If I could get two ones with Miles and Michael is younger, I'd get two number ones and something else on top of that. And a two or a three.


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[Assistant] His trade value gotta be higher just because he's younger and he's been...


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[Assistant] Lights out. Well, I said I would trade Micah, so you're not talking to me, you're talking to him. I'm, but I'm keeping Miles Garry. I ain't taking T.J. White.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, no, no. We're going to have to cut you. I can't, I can't. We're going to have to cut you. USFL is playing down there at Paul Benson Memorial Stadium. We'll catch TJ down there.


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[Assistant] He is so stuck. Hey, congratulations to you guys. Clap it up with the water bottle. You guys are freaking awesome. This is a monster. There's no wrong answer. There's no right answer.


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[Assistant] I would have just not, I wouldn't have answered. I would have had to be biased. Yea, it couldn't, it's too tough.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm cutting dabs. It's between Colt and McCoy.


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[Assistant] Hey man, listen, I think Tiger washed, so I'm cutting Tiger. Okay! I'm cutting Tiger.


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[Assistant] Uh, here's, by the way, oh, John, hey, hardball called me and they said they need a Recruitment Coordinator at Michigan. I'm trained Tivus to Michigan.


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[Assistant] You know what's wrong. This is wrong on so many levels. You don't be around here influencing that young man. You know you got, you, you got them, them ways about you. You need to watch yourself. You gonna, you gonna, you gonna flander all that. Listen, you, you, rappers.


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[Assistant] This is unacceptable. You're doing way too much. You know what? Somebody need to get her together. What's the person that said fix my life? Y'all y'all fix


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[Assistant] First of all, I need to get, first of all, let's talk about NBA writers.


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[Assistant] NBA writers be having the craziest group thing I've ever seen in my life. Y'all listen.


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[Assistant] It looked like y'all were being in a secret room and be like, we are only voting for this guy this year. And then the next year, he could have a better year than he did this year. And we're like, no, he won last year, we're only voting for this guy. You talking about Yannis Antetokounmpov? No, I'm talking about, uh, I'm talking about Yokey's getting three straight MVPs. That's crazy. It's ridiculous.


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[Assistant] Evan Mobley, uh, to me, should be the, uh, defensive player of the year, uh, because he is one of the, if you're going to say you reward,


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[Assistant] The person who plays and is the most integral part of their team. The Cavs didn't make the playoffs last year.


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[Assistant] Guess what? They're the number one defensive team in a lot of metrics, right?


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[Assistant] They made the four seed, right? The top four in the Eastern Conference.


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[Assistant] Evan Mobley is the best defensive player on the best defensive team and they made a crazy jump. Now, if you look at it,


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[Assistant] Um, obviously, Jaren Jackson, he does his thing. Cool. You would, Memphis Grizzly. I like the story. Um, but there's a lot of advanced metrics that say that Evan Mobley is the best defensive player. He contends, he shot blocks, he can play off the ball, he can guard five positions. He's just, he's just dope. He's just, he's, and by the way,


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[Assistant] Because if he wasn't defensive player this year, you know what they gonna do, right? He's just always gonna be in the mix.


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[Assistant] On the advanced metrics, I used to never really pay no attention to, to, especially when it comes to the defenders. But to me, I like to look at how many shots you defend. Like how many, how many contested shots can you give? Cause here's the thing, like the difference between guys in the NBA knocking down threes


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[Assistant] Like, some people think if you this close to a guy...


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[Assistant] That's uncontested. If I'm this close to Jason and he, and I don't, like, that's money. Like, he's, he's hittin' that. So, for him to be able to contest, and the cool thing is, he can contest and not even foul. Like, so, I think,


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[Assistant] I think he's gonna, do you think he'll be, I think he'll be first team all defensive.


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[Assistant] I mean, and the Cavs haven't had anybody on first team all defense. Have they ever? Like, I don't...


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[Assistant] I'm not. Has LeBron ever been first team? No, I think he made a second team here or there, but not first team. Eric Snow? E Snizzle, shout out to him. I mean, I think


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[Assistant] Here's a little known fact, in the black community, uhm, we just let people just like follow teams. Like, they be like, hey, what's your favorite team? I like LeBron.


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[Assistant] Nah, I asked you, what was your favorite team? No, no, no, no. Listen, I'm like, I'm a Yanis dude. I'm like...


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[Assistant] Okay, I guess, like, yeah, like, for an individual in a heartbeat, and I used to be confused by that, because by the way, there was a lot of Chicago Bulls fans in Cleveland when Mike was really rolling. There was a lot of people.


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[Assistant] See, that's even more. The fact that you got a lock down defender on the perimeter, a guy that's, that's, Brick Lopez is having a great year, and Giannis who's been multiple time defensive player of the year. Just once. Well, okay, one time.


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[Assistant] Okay, uhm, that's even more miraculous that you got.


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[Assistant] That you got Evan Mobley, we got, we got the biographer ready to go on, uh, your bands. Uh, yea, Evan Mobley, the Cavs is the number one defense. And sometimes, like, you, I mean, and he's like 12 years old. That's like crazy.


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[Assistant] We can't give you that. Listen, go ahead and warm the trophy. But here's the thing. We just talked about how we thought he'd go get it. What's the chances he actually gets it, Jason? Mowgli? Yea.


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[Assistant] It might be 40%. They think I'm gonna give it to them. What made you think of that? They'll give it to Janet. Yeah. Jerry Jack.


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[Assistant] Uh, they can't hit Garrett Cole. They might, like, if Garrett Cole, uh, like,


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[Assistant] If he's pitching, it's a wrap. Like they, I think it's like five and oh or whatever. After they got them little runs in the first inning, he was mowing these dudes down, bro. Like it wasn't even, it wasn't even close. These dudes was at the plate, like looking around. Yeah. I was like Jay.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Jay said, you know, the pitching staff, Savallis on the, on the DL, you know, for me, I'm looking from the tread water. I'm at tread water mode right now.


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[Assistant] Uh, I saw him pitching, uh, in double A and, uh, he has some, uh, he, he got some tools. So we gonna see him. We get an opportunity to see it. So, um,


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[Assistant] But like, I'm, I'm trying not to be a knee-jerk guy when it comes to this newfound baseball thing, so I'ma just catch y'all about Memorial Day. But I'm still, Josh, Josh Bell, you can start hitting any day though, if you want to- He did get a hit yesterday. Pull up.


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[Assistant] I would go, see, I almost went with one guy, man. I almost went with Will Brennan, you know, reason why. He's a hero. That's what he is.


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[Assistant] Like, I just like the fact that he's the non-traditional guy playing left field.


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[Assistant] Uh, he always seems to be on base. He, you know, he can, he can hit the all fields. Like he's a guy that, I call him the party starter. You know what I'm saying? You, you, listen, if you need a guy on base,


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[Assistant] He's a dude I can get for you either way. There's a walk and then he has the ability to stretch stuff to us from singles to doubles, doubles to triples. So for me and he's a gold Glover and look at that smile. Look at that. Just got a clubhouse do international feeling. I'm going to go with one.


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[Assistant] Kyle, we look at, uh, you know, with the quarterbacks, you meant to see CJ Stroud and Bryce Young.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Anthony Richardson, you hear his name creeping up, creeping up, creeping up.


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[Assistant] Will Levis is creeping up. I don't know what he's doing. Uh, he, he looks like an American gladiator right now. Uh, I don't know. He's doing extra pushups, but these four quarterbacks seem to be getting a lot of, uh, a lot of movement. Could you see four quarterbacks taken in the first four picks?


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[Assistant] Kyle, I've been looking forward to, uh, see these, these little three picks. I think, uh, Brown's got 74, 98. Uh, are you going to ask this man who they're taking it 74? No, I'm asking. No, I was asking 111. What's the one after that?


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[Assistant] Or, we need a linebacker, we need a, I would take another speedy receiver.


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[Assistant] Is there anybody worth packaging picks up the move into the second round range for a linebacker that could give me somebody that could play today that might be ready to play immediately and a speed receiver that's still available that could add some, some, you know,


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[Assistant] Down the field threats for Deshaun Watson if I want to package those two picks to get up to the second round.


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[Assistant] You know, Kyle, when you look at the, you know, uh, really quickly before we let you go, when you look at the playoffs, right? If you had to take a look at the AFC, which, uh, which teams do you think are most susceptible of not making the playoffs that made it last year?


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[Assistant] Kyle, good stuff from you. We'll talk to you, uh, hopefully soon. Uh, and hopefully your Dolphins don't perform as good as the Browns. We're just going to keep it on us because we would like your spot. We would like to be in the playoffs. So that's just why.


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[Assistant] They gon' listen. They gon' be playing hard. They gon' find out you went to Ohio State. They gon' be playing extra hard.


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[Assistant] Anthony Edwards medium sauce? Carl Anthony Towns had the Reeves boy on him and he wanna, he steppin' back.


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[Assistant] Listen, by the way, Jimmy Butler is old.


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[Assistant] So, he just had a great playoff run last year. That proud organization.


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[Assistant] You sure we can't, ain't no more games past this one? They don't have, they don't have no assets to work with. Like, I like what they trying to do and they like hard-nosed guys and Jimmy Butler and Kyle, like that ain't gonna get it done no more, bro. That is not Tyler Hero. Okay, that's cool. That's not gonna get it done.


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[Assistant] I think, you know, I think the sun's got a real good chance.


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[Assistant] And I think, you see the little twinkle, like, it's something to be said for like, oh, I'm in a dance. Because LeBron feels, if I'm in a dance,


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[Assistant] And it's unbelievable. I just can't. Alright, so if you, this is the crazy part. If I look at a healthy Durant and a healthy LeBron or a healthy Steph Curry, I'm not taking the nuggets over none of them.


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[Assistant] I'm just not. I can't, I can't say. I don't blame you. I can't, I can't see them going into a playoff and him just killing them. I still think everybody right.


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[Assistant] Get ready, Cleveland. That 4 or 5 series. Oh, that's the best one. That's the best series and people will be watching all over the place.


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[Assistant] Is it bad? Is it bad? I got a feeling that the Cavs are going to lose one of their first two games. No, it's not crazy at all.


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[Assistant] I think it's gonna be, it's gonna be highly contested, and like you said,


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[Assistant] They can't, they gonna have to win a game in New York. They gonna have to, like, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Give me a frame of when this came out. Give me an era.


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[Assistant] I don't, I don't think a dome is coming here. Why? Really? I got the strong impression when we had our sit down with Jimmy and Dee at the owner's meetings.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jimmy was asked basically, what if the city says they want a dome? And Jimmy was half joking and laughing, but he said like, well how much are they going to pay for it?


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[Assistant] Oh, I don't, I'm, I don't. Billions. Yeaah, I don't know. The Browns have gone.


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[Assistant] The owners meetings was the first time where I actually believed what they were saying about trying to renovate what they have, and I disagree with it, I don't like it, but they are, they seemed adamant about connecting


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[Assistant] There's more hotels you can build. Right. It's more accessible to more people at the interchange of 480 and 77. You can build anything you want. It would be technically, I guess, independent. It would not be in Cleveland. So yeah, it's going to be a financial hit to the city. But if we're talking about like what's ideal, that's what's ideal in terms of the structure.


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[Assistant] But it sounds like they wanted to bring that idea to the waterfront. Now how feasible is that? I don't know.


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[Assistant] Well, it's a, it's a massive undertaking. It's a mage. And, and I've talked to business people in the city who, who say like, okay, Sherwin-Williams bringing their headquarters to downtown is huge, but we need more of that. Cleveland needs more of that. And Jimmy's like was laughing and saying, well, we're not going to bring


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[Assistant] Business. And that's really where it starts. If you want to turn a city around, you need more businesses to bring their headquarters.


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[Assistant] The Newer Dome Stadiums, Atlanta, Minnesota, uh, SoFi.


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[Assistant] were funded primarily by the owners.


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[Assistant] And I don't get the impression, like Jimmy, he can afford that. I'm not saying he can't afford it, but what you can afford and what you want to do are two different things. And that's not how they want to, and maybe I'm wrong, but the impression I got at the owner's meetings was, what a half ass move by Jimmy.


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[Assistant] It would be, a dome stadium would be well over a billion dollars. Oh yeaah. Well over. To build what they have, I mean Minneapolis, I haven't seen Allegiant in Vegas yet, I haven't been in that one, but I've been in Minneapolis, LA and Atlanta. They are unbelievable structures. But in order to get that here, it would be well over a billion dollars.


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[Assistant] I was told that is not accurate. I don't know what the actual figures were, but part of the reason I don't think they were interested in the Suns was the price tag was even higher to buy the whole thing. He just bought a share of the bucks. So if they don't want to spend that money on the Suns, I don't think they want to spend that money. What is the reason they're doing that? Why not?


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[Assistant] But you're not going to get the return on the stadium to the extent that you would on a pro sports team.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's on the team in the fall. I don't know that it happens today or tomorrow. You gotta let the legal process play out and all that, but it's certainly...


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[Assistant] Frustrating, because the talent is there, but you know, we said it last year, at the end of the year, that there's maturity issues there, and he's gotta grow up, he's got a lot of growing up to do, clearly that hasn't taken place, and there's gotta be a ton of frustration from the Browns end of it.


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[Assistant] They, they knew when they were drafting him there was a risk there. Like there was enough there in his background.


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[Assistant] That they knew. And they took him anyway. And here you go. And he was a problem throughout the season. There's some things that I think happened that didn't even come out that he was involved in. And now here we are in the off season and now you have, you have this again.


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[Assistant] I don't think he's worth the frustration that he's put. Listen, if you're worth it, they'll put up with it. Right. Like Sean Watson, Sean Watson, Perry on Winfrey is not in that category. We know what they've done in the off season in terms of building up the interior of the defense. He showed flashes of promise last year, but not enough to make you say he's worth all this. And plus let's be honest, the Brown's history on


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[Assistant] Violence in women is not great. You know, they, with the Kareem Hunt and the Deshaun Watson, like they, fair or not, they have a reputation. Yep. Johnny Menzel.


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[Assistant] And it's something, at some point, like that reputation's gonna catch up to them. I think he's more trouble than he's worth, whether it's now, or at the end of camp, or at some point in between, I think they will probably move on from Parion.


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[Assistant] Basically. One name came to mind for me. Yeah. Jalen Waddle. Yeah. That's the first name that came to mind. Fabulous second choice.


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[Assistant] And I do think that there, I, I love Justin Herbert. I think he's fantastic.


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[Assistant] As a pair, I would probably take the Bengals over Tyree Kiel and Jaylen Waddle. I would probably take Higgins and Jamar.


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[Assistant] Well, because I was thinking the Bengals duo and the Dolphins duo, I wasn't thinking Devonte Smith. Uh, I think it's close between Amari Cooper and Devonte Smith.


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[Assistant] The overtime topic is who's more obnoxious, me or Bull? Oh, you by far. Oh, here, honey, it's mine.


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[Assistant] Which is why SGA is one of my first team all NBA guards. And why Donovan Mitchell is my other first team.


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[Assistant] But what do you do that leads to winning? It is an individual award, but you have to factor in the team concept as well. And the fact that the Cavs improved by seven. So I'm going to go against my own argument here for a second because the Cavs won seven games more than they did last year. They also had a ton of injuries last year.


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[Assistant] And they stayed a little bit healthier this year. So I have Shea and Donovan on my first team. And I have Luca and Dame on second team. It was hard leaving Steph off. It was hard leaving De'Aaron Fox off. I know Mikey's a big De'Aaron guy. If we did a third team, they would be my third team guards would be Steph and De'Aaron. But I just went.


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[Assistant] Listen, I was at the 71 point game. It was actually the night that Mark Hamlin got hurt, which...


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[Assistant] Regular season performance I've ever seen. And you have to put regular season in a different category. Right. Over post season.


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[Assistant] But what he did that night, I've never seen before. It was unbelievable. And I'm not giving it to him just because of that, but it was his best season. He did have a major influence on the Cavs. He did elevate the Cavs to the four seat home court advantage, all that. And the Mavericks just, now I also think,


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[Assistant] And I think I said on the show, I don't know what Dallas was thinking bringing Kyrie in. And I think that had a lot to do with the downfall.


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[Assistant] Luka is a wonderful player. He's fantastic. I would take him.


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[Assistant] I take him over to Donovan Mitchell, frankly. But in terms of the impact on your team, and when you look at the totality of everything, I don't think I'm being a homer. I mean, I've been as hard on the Cavs as anyone in town. I don't think I'm being a homer. I think Evan Mobley is Defensive Player of the Year, and I think Donovan Mitchell is First Team All-NBA. Well, interesting, we had


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[Assistant] No, that's fair. Ultimately the Cavs won 13 more games than the Mavericks. That counts for something in my book when it comes to voting.


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[Assistant] I said when the season started, I thought the Cavs were the third best team in the East. I still think they're the third best. I'd take them over Philly.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I would take the Cavs over Philly in terms of, I think Milwaukee and Boston are a class above everybody else. Isn't it funny? None of us even mentioned James Harden.


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[Assistant] But credit to the Cavs. I mean, you know, we talked all year about what a meat grinder of the East was going to be. There was going to be a team that disappointed. The Hawks were that team. The Nets ultimately were that team. You knew the Nets could implode at any moment and they did. And the Hawks were the one team that really didn't meet expectations given they had a big off-season move too.


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[Assistant] And they ended up having to make a coaching change and, and the whole organization has just been under pressure really since the end of last season. But the Cavs maintained and they met the expectation, like the expectations were elevated when Donovan got here and they met him.


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[Assistant] Full disclosure, this is going to be the best first round match in the playoffs, I think.


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[Assistant] I mean, Giannis is going to give me the best player in any series in the East. I'd take him over to LNB. Giannis is the best player on the floor. But beyond that...


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[Assistant] Uh, I like Boston's depth. I like their, I like their wings. I like their ability to switch and the way they defend and their multiple scoring options. I just, I think Boston should have won the championship last year. I think they will win it this year.


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[Assistant] I think the Cavs have the more talented roster. I don't think it's close. But it's not just about talent in the playoffs. Talent only gets you so far. The Knicks have the coaching edge.


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[Assistant] Well, while we're on the topic, you said 30 and 23 and we're talking weddings made me think, the funniest SNL skit I have ever seen in my life is meet your future wife. Have you guys seen that? You gotta pull it up. It is hysterical.


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[Assistant] It's, yeaah, it's Tina Fey years. And like, these guys show up with their wives, and it's meet, like their current wives, and it's meet your future wife, and she's like in the 5th grade.


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[Assistant] But the kicker was like the one guy and the girl comes out and she's in college. And they're like, okay, well that's not that bad. And he said, no, she's pregnant with you.


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[Assistant] That it was gonna turn into this. I had a conversation with him. We were in San, I think San Antonio. We were in San Antonio. It was a shoot around in the morning on the road. And I said like,


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[Assistant] You realize you're like the face for this now. You're going to be the face for this. He's like, no, no, no, no. I'm like, no, I'm telling you. Like this is going to be a thing. Like you're really putting yourself out there. And I don't think, and we talked about it later on and I don't think he grasped the enormity of it in the moment. I think it's terrific. Uh, I think it's something at times he wasn't expecting to have to be the flag bearer for the mental health. Um,


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[Assistant] Revelation, I guess the best way to put it, but it's something he's embraced and grasped. And even if we talk about it, like our parents generation, and I'm obviously older than he is, you don't ever talk about it. Like his day, cause he said, my dad, my dad don't ever talk about Stan love who played in the NBA. He's like, you don't ever talk about this stuff. And even I'm 46, even my generation.


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[Assistant] Our generation, we're the same age. I don't think we really know how to deal with it and getting better. But for the most part, I think it's the younger generation that is really sort of embracing it.


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[Assistant] You know, millennials, Gen Z's, I make fun of them for a lot of things. But in this instance, I think they're right in terms of


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[Assistant] And I'm certainly not close with him by any means. I've had interactions with him.


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[Assistant] I can tell you, LeBron had a lot of bad days. And uhm, you know, they just probably don't talk about it. Which is fine, just because you don't talk about it doesn't mean you're not handling it well. You know what I mean? Some people handle it in their own ways. Some people are public about it, some people are not.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but they, I mean they all, they're all human at the end of the day, but the one thing you said that struck me about like being out in public and people, I remember Kevin saying, going back to Kevin saying like he'd be at dinner and would have to tell himself like, this is before he really came out with some of the struggles about


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[Assistant] You're okay, you're not doing anything wrong, like you're just eating dinner, like it's okay. And just that process of, of just the uncomfortability that that brings sometimes to always be in the spotlight. I would talk to LeBron about it. We were in the locker room and I said, can you ever just go to a movie? Just take your kids to a movie and go be normal. He goes, no.


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[Assistant] Uh, I, I would imagine so. I don't know that with the security with his kids at school. I mean, he goes not at school. But, uh, but I'm sure there are times where security. I don't, I don't want to speak on him with him. LeBron's pretty unique. There are plenty. There are athletes that can go


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[Assistant] While we're sort of on that topic, when LeBron came back, the Cavs had to really beef up their security staff, right? Like they brought in a lot more. And they really revamped the whole thing. And they brought in some former Secret Service agents.


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[Assistant] Kyrie, they were on the road and somebody was driving by and called Kyrie over to the car, like, Kyrie, Kyrie! And Kyrie walked over. And remember, Kyrie was still a young guy when Lebron came back. And the security like grabbed him and said, don't ever do that again. Don't ever.


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[Assistant] There are those commercials he's done for Blaze Pizza, where like some people don't know who he is. He's Ron. He's Ron with Blaze Pizza. I've never seen those. Oh, you gotta look them up. You don't think it's just fake? No, I think some of it's real. It's like some girls that don't pay attention to sports and don't know who he is. But it's, it's, they're pretty funny.


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[Assistant] I think it'd be Miles Garrett. Fair, that's fair. And obviously there's more Browns fans than Cavs fans. Now the difference with football is a lot of times they got helmets on so you don't really see their face.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know. I'm thinking I'm going like the hat and sunglasses. Who can put on sunglasses and get to the store? Not a thick guy. Like what? Is he he's


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[Assistant] He's in, he's in that Yanis category. Obviously not. Superdice guys. Yes.


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[Assistant] Kind of along those lines, when we had All-Star Weekend here for baseball a couple years ago, it was alarming the media.


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[Assistant] Like, so, and, and I get like the international press is far more involved in NBA than it is baseball. Yea. But, like, if LeBron, Carmelo, Dwayne, any of those guys would take the podium.


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[Assistant] It's 15 deep to be able to, uh, you couldn't ask a question. You had to get there 25 minutes before they get to the podium just to get your spot, just to ask one question. It's, the media is so packed around their tables. I could walk up to Trout's table in the middle of the, like, there's nobody there. It was just, I don't know, like, this is the best player in baseball.


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[Assistant] And Logan, in fairness, is probably ahead of Bybee. Uh, Zach has said that. So I should cut Bybee from my fantasy team, is that what you're saying? No, I'd keep him. I think he's coming. And Logan probably is ahead of him in terms of timing, but I think Bybee will be here this summer, certainly at the rate things are going.


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[Assistant] I said yesterday, I think it puts more pressure on Cal Quantrill. We know, we know what Bieber is. He can't be any better. He is what he is. He's going to give you seven.


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[Assistant] He's gonna save your bullpen that day for the most part. This really puts a lot of pressure on Cal Quantrill because you know you're gonna get into your depth when Battenfield and Gaddis are on the mound. I don't know how sustainable this is that you can keep running those two guys out there.


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[Assistant] But if Quantrol gets knocked around and gets out early, and we've talked before about,


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[Assistant] He's a slow starter in terms of April and he gets off to slow starts and they know that he has a track record now and that's just the way he is. He'll get better as the year goes on. But they're gonna really burn through this bullpen right now. If he starts leaving games early, he really needs to get into the sixth at minimum.


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[Assistant] If not the seventh in his starts because you can't trust really three, four and five right now at all. So that's where the concern is with me is, is that it really puts a lot of pressure on.


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[Assistant] Well, he's, he was probably their fourth or fifth best believer at best. It's telling to me that they extended Trevor Stefan and not James Kerenshuk. Like that's, that's right. That tells you something in terms of how they feel trust level and where the organization is at. That was really interesting to me. Yeah.


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[Assistant] And when they drafted, going back to Bybee, when they drafted Bybee, he was a Command 91-92 guy, he's now throwing 98s. That's what the Guardians do.


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[Assistant] And now Gavin Williams is shoving in double A. He'll probably be in triple A sooner than later. So it's, I say Bybie's ahead of him and he is, but not by much.


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[Assistant] Well, yes, but I mean, look, they started Quan last year. They brought him up on day one and started him on day one. And, and by these 24, so you're really trying to worry about his, what, age 31 season? So you think that's a non-factor? I mean, I think the bigger factor is the fact he's not on the 40 man.


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[Assistant] And they have such a hard time creating 40 man spots right now.


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[Assistant] And so that's the story when we talk about the 40 man. The reason they moved on from Fran Mill so quickly last year was because they couldn't, they couldn't, like they held on to Jake Bowers for years because they were not in this crunch at the time. Right. Fran Mill was out like that. Owen Miller, another guy who traded to Milwaukee.


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[Assistant] Oh, well, that might be a problem. Alright, I'll try. I'll try.


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[Assistant] We do a hit club in the summer. Every Sunday afternoon we do hit club and I throw probably 500 pitches every Sunday. By the end of July I can't put deodorant on.


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[Assistant] I'll bring AJ. I'll bring AJ. Can AJ pitch? He's never pitched. Oh. Oh. But this is a good time to try. I really wanted to scrimmage. I mean, I don't even know my team yet. I want to scrimmage.


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[Assistant] But I did a full, I did a fall ball league where we did kind of like 10, 11 and 12 years old just in the fall and they all played together.


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[Assistant] Our top kids throw smoke. I won't throw our top kids, but we'll throw our... I don't want any of my kids getting hurt.


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[Assistant] I think it's fun. I think we should do it. Yeah. If you get permission from the parents. We'll talk about it off here. Do you guys have any final takes? Parents do it. You got a final take? No, we haven't done final takes in six months. I told you.


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[Assistant] I wasn't even listening to you. I was responding to my wife on a text and I still pulled that off. He still pulled that off. Nice job. So, okay.


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[Assistant] Josh Harris' partner is David Blitzer, and a lot of those deals, the minority owner of the, of the Guardians, owner of Blitzer somehow.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think different people would argue what makes a bad owner. True. Uh, it's a hard conversation to have at 1257. Right. But I, I mean Jimmy's in the conversation.


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[Assistant] Now look, if you, if Deshaun Watson is good. It would be a similar compliment to Jimmy if he wrote the checks and he paid the money to bring Deshaun here.


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[Assistant] The reason I think Jimmy could escape the worst owner type argument is because he will do whatever it takes to win.


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[Assistant] The NRA was a safety organization. They helped people teach their children and their friends and family how to use and store and keep firearms safely.


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[Assistant] They believe that it was incumbent upon the NRA to become a second amendment organization and they cleared the board of people that disagreed with them and the NRA has essentially been that ever since.


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[Assistant] The NRA has never had to deal with this kind of generational problem before. They had never gone up against a bunch of incredibly smart, talented, and organized young people.


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[Assistant] Some of whom represent districts that haven't been in Democratic hands since the early 1960s. Those people are not NRA supporters.


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[Assistant] New York Attorney General has a lot of power. She can


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[Assistant] The attack in Columbine was such a shock, uh, to the body politic that we felt the country needed to do something. Thank you and God bless you.


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[Assistant] You know, and you're searching, searching the eyes, searching the faces for someone that you recognize. And I just, I couldn't.


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[Assistant] You crapped the bed, you were riding with me and my anti-oreals this week. I mean, anti-A's today. We'll get to that in a sec. But first, I need to tell everybody...


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[Assistant] So they had to reschedule. The plaintiffs attorney asked to have it held yesterday on the 10th, a day they knew Watson would be unable to attend.


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[Assistant] Be at that April 10th deposition hearing. That's what the quash means. It just kinda delays it, pushes it down the road. The new date for that deposition is yet to be determined. However,


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[Assistant] It is a tough look for the plaintiff's attorney intentionally picking a day that was previously agreed upon that Watson would be unable to attend and now this just gets kicked down the line until what's next.


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[Assistant] No, this, this one in particular is for the 26th accusation, who is the one not represented by Tony Busby.


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[Assistant] When we talk about Newsome, our guy Brad, who we like, it's getting ugly out there for him. Newsome is responding to his tweet. Mary Kay has come out. Are we done with Watson? Are we ready to move on?


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[Assistant] So let me, let me set this up with what you haven't seen in the last few minutes.


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[Assistant] Well, Greg Newsome responded to Brad's tweet himself. Let's take the Greg Newsome tweet, Anthony. Pull it up. This is what Greg Newsome said in response to this. Okay, y'all sit back a minute and let's think about this together. I just launched a softball glaving Cleveland laughing face emoji. I'll just leave it there.


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[Assistant] Mary Kay has also come out explicitly, and you can take Mary Kay's tweet Anthony, cut to it live, saying, Brown's Greg Newsome has not asked to be traded.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Brad, I actually have a question about that, and this question comes from us, from the USFL. If you haven't checked out the summer football league coming to Canton, Ohio and around the country, make sure you check him out. USFL, a major.


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[Assistant] How would you want your coaches to approach you about that conversation? Put yourself in Newsome shoes. How would you want Stefanski and Schwartz to approach you about playing slot? And or how should that conversation go from the player coach perspective?


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[Assistant] I said Jim Schwartz is there, which changes everything too. It's not the Joe Woods conversation, it's the Jim Schwartz conversation.


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[Assistant] So we can officially close the saga on this Stainbrook, Schefter, Newsome, uh, debacle this morning. Brad just tweeted out this and he'd take it full. He notes apt it.


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[Assistant] I was told Greg Newsome wanted to be traded. I will never reveal where I got that information from, but I would have never even reported it in the first place if I didn't trust where I was getting information from. I am confused on why someone would lie to me regarding that information.


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[Assistant] Online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. Bull, would you like to set up this draft and how do we want to determine the draft?


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[Assistant] It's a must-win series for both teams. Like, I have friends back from New York that feel the same way that my friends from Cleveland do. It'd be disappointing if we don't win this series. They're like, how can we lose? They're like, how can we lose?


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[Assistant] And Thibodeau's good at that, by the way. Yeaah, right. He's one of the better defensive minds in basketball at forcing you into doing something you're not accustomed to doing.


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[Assistant] So we randomized Anthony and I just a second ago, made a list randomizer, which we did 10 randomizations between you three. Go ahead. So the official order we're going to go, and this is in snake order. Brad, you have first pick.


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[Assistant] Okay. Full second, G third. Okay, so we- Then backwards.


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[Assistant] Does anyone have any serious objections with Randall at 2, G or Brad? And if you have objections with any pick, let's hash it out.


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[Assistant] And this is not creating a team, G, this is just ranking the best players. Oh, this is not creating a team, this is ranking your best players.


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[Assistant] Before you go ball, now we've seen four picks. Mitchell, Garland, Randall, and Brunson, two for each. Would anyone argue Mobley should be over Garland or Brunson in that situation?


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[Assistant] So that rounds out the first half of our draft. Brad, you have back to back picks here, but just to recap, Mitchell went one, Randall two, Brunson three, Garland and Mobley round out the top five of the five best players. We took three Cavs, two Knicks. Brad, you have back to back picks number six and seven here.


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[Assistant] If you're gonna go with the wing, just looking at traditional stats, Barrett averaged 19.6 points, Laverte averaged 12.


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[Assistant] 3 minutes more. 33 minutes to 30. And then you go down to their defensive win shares and all the advanced metrics. And Barrett is essentially dead. But guess what? Brad's pick. That's why he gets to pick it.


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[Assistant] Okay. Won a championship at Nova. No stranger to the big stage.


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[Assistant] We are taking a manual quickly. The 6th man of the year favorite in the NBA average is 15, 4, and 4 off the bench. Also a steal and a half. And with that, we are split 5-5 down the middle. Let me ask you this.


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[Assistant] I would have taken Levert, however, I do think you can make arguments for a couple other guys. I lean towards Levert because he's actually had a little bit of play experience in what you guys alluded to.


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[Assistant] He can go off for 50 at any point and he may or may not be a swing guy on one of these games. But you look at the numbers, a guy like Quinton Grimes for the Knicks is shooting 39% from three on six, three point attempts per game, averages 12 points per game, right in the same line as Lavert, different stylistic players. Uh, if you're going to go with Mitchell Robinson.


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[Assistant] Danny Green's gonna play a role in this playoff series. Like I know it sounds crazy. I wouldn't put him on the top 10 best players on this list. Yeah. But if we're going top 10 most important, I think Danny Green really does have a role in that.


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[Assistant] Wait, not only are they playing Minnesota, but Rudy Gobert is suspended for punching Kyle Anderson. JD McDaniels is out for punching a wall and breaking his hand.


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[Assistant] The Timberwolves suspended Go Bear. Uh, it was Adrian Wojnowski's weirdest tweet ever. Uh, I'm not gonna say the words explicitly, but take the other one, Anthony. Show the actual- He calls him a female dog.


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[Assistant] It is 12 o'clock, which means it is officially the lunch hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. And the lunch hour of UCSS as always is sponsored by Colleague Racing, the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio. And joining us now making his UCSS debut is Pete Prisco, NFL insider. How you doing today, Pete?


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[Assistant] We got to do a little guardians before we bring on our card show guests. And as always 12 o'clock lunchtime, the ultimate Cleveland sports show is sponsored by call and gracing the official NASCAR team.


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[Assistant] Of North East Ohio. Guys, the Guardians took game one from the Yankees of their series yesterday. It was close down to the wire. Beiber


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[Assistant] Came through in the clutch after a rocky start. How important was it for the Guardians to pick up a win early in the series with Bieber on the mound before playing Cole tonight and then game three obviously.


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[Assistant] Who said yesterday about Bell that he looks like he's batting the wrong way?


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[Assistant] Well, I wanted to ask about the stolen bases and the home runs because we talked about the Guardians expecting Steve to get 184.


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[Assistant] 0 hits through their 1-7 hitters, and Steve pull up the graphic, 184 real quick. I just want you guys to take a quick snapshot of this. Through 11 games now, this is where the Guardians rank in Major League Baseball. They lead the league in stolen bases, they're dead last in home runs, and they're right in the middle of batting average in RBI's. G. Bush, this is what you've alluded to every time we've talked.


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[Assistant] Nothing seems to change. They've addressed the lineup and it's early, but the numbers are still exactly where they should be.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it was too early to tell. But after a month, we'll have comparable data, but after a week and a half.


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[Assistant] It is 1230 on the dot, which is the perfect time to remind you guys. It is the Lunch Hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show sponsored by Colleague Racing, the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio. And while we are.


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[Assistant] On the topic of emotional events, let's tell you guys about memberships, because memberships...


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[Assistant] For the $4.99 a month tier, that is the coach's tier, you get everything in starter's tier. Plus, overtime videos.


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[Assistant] Member shoutouts, discount codes for merch. You can text with Jason and other select members of the UCSS panel throughout the show for select Cavs, Guardians games, and more. It is the big baller tier. Bull, I don't know the question, the answer to your question. I'm talking, I don't have three hands to text you back.


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[Assistant] But we are now here to promote what we are doing this weekend.


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[Assistant] We're also giving away free tickets. If you go to wkyc.com slash contest, we are giving away a four pack of VIP passes, four VIP passes plus 20 general admission tickets throughout the weekend.


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[Assistant] WKYC.com slash contest. Come hang out with us. Steve, I got one more question for you real quick. Sure. And it's kind of off.


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[Assistant] Mac upstairs runs the contest. I have no idea how it works. It's a whole legal thing. I wish I knew better. Uhm, Steve, when NFTs got hot and like NBA top shots last year or during COVID.


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[Assistant] I gotta remind everyone that Call of Gracings, the official sponsor of the Lunch Hour of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. It is also the official NASCAR team of Northeast Ohio. If you are just tuning in, I'll give you the details on the event one more time. The Great Lakes Collector's Convention presented by Greenie Sports Card.


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[Assistant] Is taking over the field house in Independence, Ohio from April 14th through the 16th. It's where the passions of sports fans, collectors, and sports talk enthusiasts collide. 50,000 square feet of ball card bliss, hundreds of display tables, card shop, live theater with interactive appearances from some of the region's most notable sports media members, including Bull G. I'm not notable, but myself, John becoming the other guys.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna lie, I don't support anything he does off the court, but the Kyrie Irvings are my favorite basketball show of all time. They're the best basketball show I've ever played.


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[Assistant] Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?


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[Assistant] Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?


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[Assistant] The threat that is staring us in the face right now with this election is greater than any threat we've faced in our lives.


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[Assistant] I'm here to tell you that it will not happen on my watch, I promise you.


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[Assistant] Donald Trump shows up as if he needed this hit of adrenaline before he went home to New York.


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[Assistant] People were being trampled and camera equipment was flying all over the place and I'd never seen a scene like this. I mean, I've seen many media stampedes but nothing like that.


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[Assistant] What Republican voters were looking for was strength. And in that moment, here's what voters saw.


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[Assistant] They saw a generation of Republican politicians who kowtowed to Fox News, who genuflected.


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[Assistant] Then they saw somebody cake on Fox News, and Trump won.


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[Assistant] He broke Fox News. In the steel cage death match of Republican politics in that instant, Donald Trump became king.


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[Assistant] Americans could be turned against each other. With Facebook.