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[Assistant] The very storyline is like something out of Monty Python, with a mysterious Atnas making Greenland green.


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[Assistant] I won't spoil the end for you but it's satisfyingly anticlimactic.


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[Assistant] We also liked the film 300 at the time, and added a secret island where you got to fight against a naked Philip who had an attack called Spartan infection. Nasty stuff.


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[Assistant] Santasatnas was a game of 2 halves, smooshed together at the last second before the crunch time and released. It could have been terrible.


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[Assistant] Because even with that, the game's pacing is too slow. What were we thinking? Ideally we should have got the two halves done with a week to spare and then spent the remaining time endlessly playing through and balancing things. That time doesn't just make a small difference. It can completely change the game. I couldn't bring myself to play it until weeks after the deadline. When I did, I was actually pleasantly surprised.


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[Assistant] Other things? Useless. It was only through fascinating trial and error that I discovered these things. Despite having worked on it for a month, playing it in its finished state was like a completely new game. But oh, there were bugs.


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[Assistant] The retreat option didn't do anything. Melee attacks scaled far better than the ranged and magic attacks. Eventually your health got so high, you were like a god. The physics on Santa's bobble hat would go crazy, bouncing across the screen.


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[Assistant] I think that was one of the first things I worked on. Great to know I had my priorities right.


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[Assistant] Although the elf is referred to as Casper, he never actually introduced himself and is just known as Helper in most of the game files. Oh and the end battle wouldn't load, and you'd just stand there, staring at Atlus forever.


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[Assistant] Or something. Fortunately, this version can no longer be played by anybody since it really was an embarrassment.


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[Assistant] Oh yes, and this version could actually be completed. What can I say? Lessons were learned from Santasatnas, which remains one of the most advanced games that I've ever completed, and the game that I've probably learned the most from.


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[Assistant] If you do it right, you'll be sick of playing it by the end. And very few people will give it a fair chance.


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[Assistant] Since it's a genre that features a steep learning curve and requires an investment from those who intend to get enjoyment out of it. And Santa's Atlas probably hasn't helped the genre's reputation.


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[Assistant] No, that's impossible, I only have one brother and I- Oh, wait, that's you, isn't it?


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[Assistant] I think we take one step at a time. And the next step is we work the case plan like we've talked about with some of this more specific programming and education. The step down the road is potential out of state placement at some point. But we gotta go one step at a time. We're not gonna make all these decisions today.


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[Assistant] So me and the girl was watching a rotation, we went on and we're like, what is this I Admit song to see what the lyrics were in the song? Couldn't make it through the nine minutes, I barely made it through one. But I think that also may be a reason why, just trying to figure this out.


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[Assistant] No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Today I'm here with the new Heat out of Baltimore. Shorty Shorty, how you doing man?


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[Assistant] I gotta get the story because you got this song blowing up right now and everybody's talking about you and everybody wants to know the deal and that's what we do over here at No Jumper.


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[Assistant] So you do, you do identify as a person who makes music that is kind of focused on how the ladies are going to react? Definitely. Okay. Definitely. Definitely a lot of bitches.


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[Assistant] So what party are you from? Tell us a little bit about your upbringing.


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[Assistant] Tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like we've had a lot of rappers coming out of the DMV over the past couple years, but not a lot of like hardcore Maryland heads. Uhm. Or excuse me, Baltimore heads.


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[Assistant] What do you mean by patience though? You feel like dudes just start coming out, just don't, they don't keep at it? They, they, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Now that's interesting that you have that self-belief because I feel like a lot of rappers are out here trying to convince the world that they're dope, but they haven't even convinced themselves yet. And everybody else can smell the insecurity.


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[Assistant] Whenever I see a new rapper for the first time, and a lot of times I don't even have to see them rap, a lot of times it just feels like you can just smell the star power on them.


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[Assistant] In the sense that it has a lot to do with confidence, it has to do with the look, the way they carry themselves, the whole attitude. A lot of times the music is kind of like the last piece that you realize, but like, and a lot of times people could just make a hot song, like you have a hot song right now, but also when I seen the video I was like,


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[Assistant] I like this dude, like I like the way he's carrying, like just everything, the whole overall thing is just like, you know, you, you get that feeling and I feel like so much of that comes from your inner level of confidence and how much you believe in yourself. But you been like that since you were young?


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[Assistant] But so, a lot of people though, when they're coming up, they feel like the hometown hates on them and so they reach a certain level or whatever. Do you feel like you're kind of avoiding that because the people in your city realize that you're the real deal?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean I think that's the level of talent and the level of like musicianship and stuff, like just having those melodies and stuff because you can understand why on some street shit that like people from your area might not fuck with you if you were just talking a bunch of rah rah rah, I'm so hard.


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[Assistant] All that, like, it's easy to hate on that, but if somebody's really coming with music that sounds like they're actually trying to make good music, it's a lot, has more of a shelf life and you're probably bound to get more respect.


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[Assistant] Right, so when did you actually hop into the process of making music? Like when did it actually occur to you like, oh I can actually make my own songs?


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[Assistant] I see you're doing well with women in general though. You seem like you kinda got the gift of gab. Definitely. You could talk some shit.


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[Assistant] I got one. Yeaah, that's like. How's that going? He's great.


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[Assistant] Who's the mom? You have a strong relationship with her?


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[Assistant] It's tough. It is not a good situation.


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[Assistant] Nonstop, hilarious, just everything they say. Just so ridiculous. They're really into Pokemon now, so.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's why just video games and stuff. My five year old nephew, he already knows how to tell Alexa to play whatever. He goes, Alexa, play Juice World!


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[Assistant] And then they start playing the Juice Roll songs with all the swears and the parents start getting mad. Yeah, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but okay, so when did you, like, like, you've got videos, your oldest stuff on YouTube is like, six months, eight months old? It's not that old, right? So, when did you really start putting shit out like that?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's like in the real rap game too. Is the scene in Baltimore competitive like that?


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[Assistant] Kinda overwhelmed, because I seen you on stage with Carnage and shit last night. Huge crowd, crazy shit. That must be pretty new to you. Wow.


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[Assistant] There's so many shysty motherfuckers in the music industry that just want to ruin your life. Yea, definitely.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Cause as soon as I posted that clip of you on Twitter, the clip of the obituary video, and he just, he hit me up right away like, yo, who the fuck told you about that shit? He was very concerned. He's like, man, I've been fucking with that shit.


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[Assistant] He's like, you knew, huh? He's like, who told you to post that? He's like, who told you? I'm like, nobody told me, I just seen it bro. And he's like, he's like, it's hard, right? He's like, he figured that somebody had to get in my ear. And he's like,


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[Assistant] Who's out here exposing it? I need to know. Yeah, definitely. Damn, that's crazy though. It's like fucking, because from your position, I can just imagine how you feel because it's like you had, you probably hadn't really felt like you've been handed anything your whole life and now all of a sudden you have all these people recognizing your talent.


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[Assistant] It must be a weird feeling to just see that many people who are actually genuinely excited about the art. You know? Cause it's like, realistically it's like, you know, I could try to...


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[Assistant] I think right now it's 2.5. I think when I found it, it was at 1.


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[Assistant] 2.9? It's at 3 million right now. Okay. It's important that we state that though because somebody might be watching this in two months and be like, damn that thing's at 10, 15 million, whatever. That's like, you know, they just need to know where we're at timeline wise.


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[Assistant] Shoreline was with you last night on stage too, right? Yea, yea. I seen that, I was like, oh shit, he really tapped in with everybody. Yea, my niggas, yea.


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[Assistant] Yeah? What's it like for you being on tour though and shit? Different city every day? How's that feel? That was hard. It was hard? Hard like difficult or hard like it was amazing? It was amazing.


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[Assistant] Any of the cities stand out to you in particular?


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[Assistant] Because if you really start blowing up, then you're gonna have to start worrying about all the people in your city acting weird to you and stuff. They're gonna be like, nope, we're putting them in the mansion in Calabasas. So, so.


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[Assistant] On me, right. And then your problem becomes, fuck, now I got no inspiration for my music cause I'm like locked in this house all day because the labels don't want me around people.


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[Assistant] What's your creative process like though? Do you feel like, are you the type of person who can just pump out a lot of music? Or do you, do you focus in on one song? Wake up in the morning and go crazy. Always. Everyday. Really?


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[Assistant] And then you start, you start going to all these different cities, you start seeing new things. It's like you got fresh new things to experience every day, new people to meet every day. It must be kind of weird because I feel like you get into like a very, when you're in the same city your whole life, you start to get into a small minded, you know, you start thinking about, you know the same 50 people, you know what they're all doing.


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[Assistant] Definitely. So, from your perspective, what's important right now, because you're obviously doing some touring, you're still recording and everything, but what do you feel like the next, like, crucial moves are in your career?


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[Assistant] You know, being a people person like that, like really wanting to have those relationships with the DJs and thus all the individual media outlets, everything. That shit is crazy important. That's what people, like that's going to take you a long way, like in terms of making people want to play you on the radio, want to book you for shows, want to book you to open for so and so.


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[Assistant] Go get a writer to write the songs for you and shit. But that's obviously not ideal for the label or you.


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[Assistant] And you're thinking, wait, so I could have that bag right now.


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[Assistant] Kinda tempting, huh? That bag. That bag. You're looking at those numbers, you're like, wait, I ain't never had that much in the bank. Nah.


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[Assistant] The obituary could be like Tatiana, right?


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[Assistant] I feel like it could be. I could picture Cardi B hopping on that. I could picture all the girls in the strip club going up for it. Definitely.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna fuck that up. You could buy the whole baby store for that. You could pay the rent for a month right there. Nah, fuck that.


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[Assistant] I got a bright future, bro. I got a bright future, I promise you. You need a lot of bape for this bright future of yours. Yea, right, right, right, right. Still got that blunt, the giant blunt. Fuck yea, where is that? Hey Gotti, gimme that.


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[Assistant] We don't gotta smoke the whole thing on stream, I just wanted to point out that now we got


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[Assistant] We're facein' blunts just sittin' there like, man, I'm, I'm hittin' it as hard as I can, like, I wish I could cough, like, I wonder if I could make myself cough if I just keep hittin' this as hard as I can. It wasn't, it wasn't happenin'. It was somethin', though. We were buyin' $40 packs of woods, too.


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[Assistant] My girl gets mad at me for buying my $7, and she's like, you sell bagwoods at your store, you buy them in bulk at your store, and then you still go to 7-Eleven to buy one pack. I'm like, yeaah, that is stupid.


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[Assistant] Wait though, you're gonna wake up one day and some girl's gonna be running through your pockets and then you're gonna see the other side of things. You're gonna be like, fucking these girls are the opposite of financial advisors.


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[Assistant] She's gonna take that too. What else do we need to know before we wrap this up? Before you go tear up the vape store.


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[Assistant] Uh, Cole Bennett. Oh, I forgot about that. Cole Bennett video on the way. Cole Bennett on the way. Did you already shoot it? Or are you about to? No.


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[Assistant] Amazing. Hey, I appreciate you man. You want to shout anybody out before we wrap this up?


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[Assistant] I seen it on Twitter too when I said I was doing this interview. Everybody was like, oh shit, he's getting it, he's getting it. The people know. They know before I know.


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[Assistant] Oh, my mama. Alright. Shorty Shorty. Appreciate you, man.


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[Assistant] No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, Soundcloud, iTunes, follow on Instagram, Twitter. Shorty Shorty, go check him out. S-H-O-R-D-I-E.


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[Assistant] S-H-O-R-D-I-E. On Twitter and Instagram. Check it. Appreciate you man. Peace.


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[Assistant] I mean, we're talking about meeting people out. Uh, I've got a guy, Jimmy, at the gym yesterday and apparently I met or could have met Tyvis's radio producer, but she did not want to say hi because she was, she heard me talking about the show to someone else.


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[Assistant] At the Browns charity golf event yesterday, that was the shorter, but this is a different question asking about whether or not he's at any communication with Hopkins about joining the Browns and whether or not he's comes real talking to Andrew Barry in the front office about bringing the hop to Watts to Cleveland. Excuse me. So Steve, let's roll the clip. This is the Sean Watson on DeAndre Hopkins.


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[Assistant] Well that wasn't the only interesting sound bite from Deshaun Watson yesterday. The next one we're gonna get to though is brought to us by Lorraine County Community College LCC.


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[Assistant] .edu, your classes, your future. Register now for all summer and fall classes. And you could be a superstar like Jason Lloyd, a Lorraine CCC alumni. So Deshaun Watson yesterday as part of the media stream.


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[Assistant] Uh, so Deshaun Watson was asked, not by his mom, he was just asked.


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[Assistant] So we asked the internet, aka the YouTube chat today, what they thought of Deshawn Watson's comments, whether they liked how he answered the rust question or not, and this poll result, as always, is brought to us by our dear friends.


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[Assistant] Over at PCC Airfoils, we're looking for a job with career advancement and great benefits. Well, PCC Airfoils is a leading manufacturer in Northeast Ohio. All locations of PCC Airfoils at Eastlake Menner, Wycliffe, and Minerva are hiring for all positions starting at $18 and up. Plus, get a full benefit package, paid time off, and a signing bonus when you apply online at Precast.


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[Assistant] dot com slash careers to learn more. Over 177 votes.


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[Assistant] 88% said they liked Deshaun Watson's measured approach to answering the question.


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[Assistant] They're splitting targets, and neither has looked particularly great from these social media clips making their rounds. Just don't it out there.


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[Assistant] I, you know, boy, I love you, but sometimes you set me up with the hardest pivot in transition. If I'm gonna do it.


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[Assistant] With the Pittsburgh Maulers. Family friendly, let's go. It is family friendly fun for everybody. $10 Boogie Roberts. Boy, I talked to you afterwards about our possible trip this weekend. All right. Nobody can go. Yeah, it might just be me and you going this weekend. I'm not going this weekend. Maybe it just


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[Assistant] PFF allowed us to, uh, start using their beta test of their season simulator.


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[Assistant] So we ran seven simulations for the Browns upcoming season. We got some pretty good variants here. There's some good, some bad, and some in between. So we are going to go through these seven simulations.


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[Assistant] Spend a minute or two on each one. See how we realistically think they may be. So here's how we're gonna do it. I'm gonna show you their record. Then I'm gonna go over some of the player stats. They only give us quarterback, running back, receiver. And then we'll chat real quick. That work for you guys?


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[Assistant] Simulation number one, PFF has the Browns going seven and ten, losing their first two games of the season and getting hot in the middle for a little bit. I mean, getting hot.


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[Assistant] Now, this is not damn, this is a computer simulation. And there, we did seven, all seven are different. Alright. So you ready for the next one? Yea. This is simulation two. How about a ten and seven record here? Yea, we'd like that. They lose to the Bengals to start, then they reel off four straight wins, they lose to the Cardinals again in this one. Damn.


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[Assistant] Go ahead, what? That was Watson's highest yardage projection. Alright, alright. So he didn't break the 5,000 any of these sevens. Simulation 3, gee, you're gonna like this one. How about 11 and 6?


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[Assistant] They end the season on fire with five straight wins. They lose to San Francisco. They lose to the Rams in this one, a little odd. But when you look at the player's stats, G Bush, I got something you're going to love here. You ready?


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[Assistant] 4,800 yards, 34 touchdowns for Watson. How about 1,600 yards on the ground for Chubb and 6,662 in the air for a grand total of 2,266 yards. Whoa! Nick Chubb!


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[Assistant] They beat the Bengals in week one, they loosed the Bengals late, they beat the Cardinals here in a tight game, Tyvis. So this is the one simulation that somehow they do beat the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] Alright, we got three more. This next simulation, simulation five.


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[Assistant] And in this scenario, Sean Watson throws for 4,500 yards, 33 touchdowns, 5 interceptions, Chubb runs for 1,200 yards, Cooper nearly 1,000 yards, and Bull, I think you take this from a joku again, 880 yards, 10 touchdowns, DPJ 640 and 4.


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[Assistant] But yea, not their best simulation, but certainly not their worst either.


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[Assistant] Alright, we got two more simulations. This is the good and the bad. We'll start with the bad first. In this one, they have the Browns finishing eight and nine. A bit of a disappointment. So far the worst is


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[Assistant] Part of the reason for their streaky success is Deshaun Watson was good, but he threw 16 interceptions, 4500 yards, 27 touchdowns, 16 picks. Chubb was a monster on the ground, 1550 yards, almost 2000 total with nine rushing touchdowns, but no receiver, a clips to 1000 yard mark in this season. So far.


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[Assistant] We have one more, and this one I think is the one Brown's fans will like the most. I see no flaws in this one, you ready?


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[Assistant] We're gonna do that, we're gonna do the read after. Let's take this last simulation here. Steve, in the final simulation, how about 14 and 3 for the Browns? Start the season off with 7 straight wins before a loss to Arizona. They stumble.


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[Assistant] And in this scenario, Deshaun Watson throws for 4,500 yards, 28 touchdowns, just 10 interceptions, Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] Check him out July 12th through the 16th at the famous Firestone Country Club. It is fun, family-friendly events for everybody, including free admission for kids and concerts every night. Check him out!


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[Assistant] We have our first guest joining us in about 10 minutes, but until then we have to talk a little Guardians Bowl. And yesterday, after a really good weekend, especially on the mound for the Guardians, it was a disappointing performance from one Cal Quantrill. With McKenzie coming back, with Savalli coming back. How hot is this spot in the rotation right now?


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[Assistant] If you can't like it, subscribe to the channel. It's free. If you want to do extra, become a member. We appreciate you all. The lunch hour is brought to us by Colleague Company's Championship. Check them out, ColleagueGolf.com. And joining us now is Evan Damerall from Locked On Cavs with some, uh, potential Jared Allen trade scenarios, cause he wasn't a fan of some of the ones we picked the other day.


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[Assistant] I know, they, I didn't involve any picks in my deals, and, and we'll see Evan in a second, he could explain his deals. They involve some picks, so it's not, not apples to apples, but, uh, they weren't a fan of some of my trades, and Evan, let's see what you got then.


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[Assistant] So we, we brought Evan on though to discuss some Jared Allen trades. And we have four of them. The first one...


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[Assistant] Evan looks very similar to one of the ones I've presented. Woah. So, I'll let you go. This is the first Mavs trade. You can take it full, Steve. 196. It's a Mavs trade with Jared Allen, with the Cavs getting Tim Hardaway Jr., Javail McGee, and a first round pickback.


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[Assistant] And a first round pick in the Mavs get Jared Allen, Devonte, Graham, and a 20-25 first round pick.


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[Assistant] Evan, I do like the premise of that one. I saw Kelly Eco of the Athletics suggested the...


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[Assistant] He's a hybrid 2-3, yea, he's a wing. He's not big though, he's only 6-3.


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[Assistant] Alright, Evan. Bottom line here, and I think Evan and I ran into the same thing when we look at this.


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[Assistant] Jared Allen means more to the Cavs than he probably means to anyone else and at the end of the day I'd be surprised at the end of the day if Jared Allen's not in a Cleveland Cavalier uniform.


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[Assistant] We appreciate it man, thank you so much. Fake trades are so tough cause you, no one really knows how it's valued.


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[Assistant] One thing with the number three pick, like, there were rumors that...


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[Assistant] Portland may package the three pick in someone for Jalen Brown. Like that's the kind of fish they're going after for the third pick in a top four heavy draft.


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[Assistant] That's the bad Jalen Williams though. So they were both solid. One was first team all rookie. The other one was just solid. That was the solid Jalen Williams. The one with an I is the average one.


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[Assistant] Well maybe he was overvaluing him, maybe I was undervaluing him. Somewhere in the middle is probably where the, the truth lies. I guess. What his potential value could be, but we do know this. Chris Rose?


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[Assistant] He's setting up right now. We will bring Chris on in one sec, but in the process of looking at all the potential Allen deals. Yeah.


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[Assistant] It's kinda like the situation where, with Nick Chubb, where in theory he's more valuable to the Browns than he would be to another team.


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[Assistant] But it was just, I'm not saying they're equal, I'm just saying the premise of that whole discussion.


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[Assistant] Chris is on his phone, so if he gets a text, I think he's gonna pop out for a sec, which is unfortunate, uh, downside of vMix. As soon as Chris pops back in, we'll bring him back.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I got, I got one thing I want to read before we do, uh, final takes. I got sent this on Twitter the other day.


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[Assistant] Yeah, one of our fans sent us this. They asked to be nameless. This was from a...


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[Assistant] Fan, I'm gonna read these, uh, some are pretty funny. I don't understand all of them, I'll be completely honest. But maybe you guys will, so.


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[Assistant] With that, are you ready? Yes, this is again the top. Go give me again. These are fan submitted top 12 things Cleveland Guardians catcher Mike Zanito can do instead of hitting baseballs.


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[Assistant] Number 12, pursue eBay and bid on the very first Johnny Bench batter up machine he sees. Okay.


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[Assistant] Of our fans submitted top 12 things Cleveland Guardians catcher Mike Zanino can do instead of hitting baseballs. Rubbed dirt on his thigh so chicks at the bar thinks he actually contributed to the game.


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[Assistant] Number 8 on our fan submitted 12 things guardians catcher Mike Sanu can do instead of hitting baseballs. Fly back to Tampa, catch a ride to Tropicana Field, buy a raise game program, and stare in awe at Christian Bethencourt's stats.


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[Assistant] Alright, number 6 on our fan submitted top 12 things Cleveland Guardians catcher Mike Sandino can do instead of hitting baseballs. Stand behind the dugout air conditioner and grunt, Luke, I am your father.


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[Assistant] Number 5 on our fan submitted top 12 things Cleveland guardians catch your mics and you can do instead of hitting baseballs crack up the Latino players by learning how to say you know if this were bowling three strikes would be good in Spanish


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[Assistant] Number 4 on our fan submitted Top 12 Things Cleveland Guardians Catcher Mike Sino can do instead of hitting baseballs, prank call the nearest subway location and demand that Steph Curry make his meatball sandwich.


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[Assistant] Also, I'm reading the name of the category, just so in case anyone clips this, they know exactly what it is. So number three on our fan submitted top 12 things, Cleveland guardians catcher Mike's, you know, can do instead of hitting baseball's list instead of batting play that I bet you can't name another catcher below me alphabetically game with young guardians fans in attendance.


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[Assistant] Number 2 on our top 12 things Cleveland Guardians catcher Mike Stenio can do instead of hitting baseballs submitted by our fans. Draw mustaches and alien antennas on pictures of Bo Naylor in the newspaper.


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[Assistant] And number one on our top 12 things Cleveland Guardians catcher Mike Zanino can do instead of hitting baseball submitted to us by our UCSS fans. Fan, fan, one fan. Fan, fan, excuse me. Yeah. Commission a plane to fly by that says I'm only hitting 170 and you still like me more than Baker Mayfield.


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[Assistant] Good job, if you guys have stuff like that and we have a few minutes, we'll uh, we'll try to sneak it in. It worked out. Chris Rose had a dip at 12.55, had a few minutes. Uh, overtime by the way. Little T, this is a good one.


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[Assistant] We saw the clips from Watson earlier. We're going to show you guys the Browns golf games and we have our golf expert on the panel today. The one and only Tyvis Powell here and he's going to break down some of the Cleveland Browns golf swings in a way that no one else can.


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[Assistant] Uhm, man, listen, thank the good Lord above. Uhm, He, He let me be provided me limited amounts of energy, uhm, to move the rest of my things into this, into this home and uhm,


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[Assistant] Listen, listen, your, your, your wife gave you something. She just, she lent you something and she was like, let me give you a little something, boo. You might need this. Cause I don't know if you could replicate that.


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[Assistant] Men on the grill. Y'all be doing all these gymnastics. See what I got? This is this marinated glaze right here. This glaze. I glaze the chicken.


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[Assistant] It sounds like, it sounds like a perfume Elizabeth Taylor had. White diamonds and now soy vey by Elizabeth Taylor.


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[Assistant] Oh, I thought I was about to say like, oh man, this is turning, this is turning morbid. Like the business was going down.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna throw this question out to both of you. I was on the way in, I was listening to the radio, uh, local radio, and the premise is a lot of people were saying, okay, is this guy just a name?


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[Assistant] Is he just a name that we're going after? And...


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[Assistant] What are you, what are you willing to pay for? Are you willing to say, okay, if it's a one year deal, I think everybody takes a one year deal. But if DeAndre Hopkins wants a two year deal at the age of 31, I think he turns 31 in June. Is that something you'd be willing to do?


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[Assistant] I love the energy. I'm in lockstep with you. Right now, you know, I listened to it all last week and they talked about it a little bit. They say, look.


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[Assistant] Hey, this guy is, you know, maybe gonna be available. You looking at Kansas City. You looking at the Bills. He may choose those other teams because obviously he might get the ball a lot more when you just behind digs, right? He may even be the number one target in Kansas City. So he's.


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[Assistant] I'm not going, listen, I'm not going to bury the lead on this. Hey, what sounds really great is having Amari Cooper and DeAndre Hopkins on this roster. I don't care who you think is better. You got him, you got him. Right? We'll figure that out when we throw in the football tour.


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[Assistant] And I've been trying to dig around, like, eh, man, I don't, like, I've been asking some people, like, eh, what's this Sean Watson's feeling on DeAndre Hopkins? It's like, you said it, Jason. If he wanted it to get done, it would get done.


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[Assistant] His upside is, his upside is better. Like, you gotta think about it. If you get DeAndre Hopkins and Amara Cooper, then it just changes the way you think about it. Now, you get to find out exactly what Deshaun Watson is. You're gonna find out. Because look, you can't, there's no excuses.


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[Assistant] There's already none. That's just, now, now it's like, dude, you got-


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[Assistant] The best receiving core that the Browns have ever had. Do you, now it feels like we're going down the Odell Landry rabbit hole all over again. I was going to ask that. Do you think that Jarvis and Odell compared to what they would have in this receiving court if they were able to land DeAndre Hopkins would be comparable?


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[Assistant] If it's the playoffs, McNuggets, or you fighting for the title in AFC North, would you rather have DeAndre Hopkins on the third down in seven or Donald P. Obama?


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[Assistant] Well, let's take a look at what are the quarterbacks you listed?


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[Assistant] Well, he probably knew, obviously, he's not going to get there. Like, he's naming, he's naming people.


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[Assistant] And well, here's the thing too. If you look at it, they didn't pay Tyree Hill. Tyree Hill was very good. He was expendable.


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[Assistant] So if he's saying, if I gotta look at it, like from an organizational standpoint, who is going to give me the most catches? Who's gonna have a good quarterback? And who has the ability to give me a deal? A match.


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[Assistant] Then the Chiefs are the choice. They're already the favorites to win the Super Bowl again this year. But if he wants touches and a little bit more money, I would go with the Bills, right? They look like they need, they're telling him, hey, you're the piece that's going to put us over, over the top. They can get us to a place where we can compete with the Bengals and the Chiefs. That's where we want to get to.


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[Assistant] That's what I like him to be. Yeaah, cause Adam, the worst case scenario is these signs with the ravens. You see them twice a year.


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[Assistant] No, listen, the reason they did this is because Adam Nabool, they're giving him an opportunity to show his prowess. The last time we did these, I think I got the number one pick, it came up with the worst roster.


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[Assistant] And they gave it to bull in a landslide. So he does get the, you're going to get the third pick as well as the fourth pitch. Yeah. All right. So let's do this.


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[Assistant] Easy money, man. I'm running to the bank. I'm going with D-line. Or defensive end.


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[Assistant] I like, I got, I got Myles Garrett, I got Zerera Smith, I got Young OG aka Oboe out there.


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[Assistant] Listen, I got some young guys, Isaiah Thomas, I like, I like the McGuire pick. I got a, you know what I'm saying, some dudes out there that can move around, Alex Wright. So I got a lot of pieces and parts that I could really work with, especially on this pass rush. And I got arguably the best pass rusher in the game, Miles Garrett. So I'm looking at top.


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[Assistant] Top end with those two, Zedariah Smith as well as Miles Garry. You looking at, uh, uh, one of the most formidable couples and pairings, the defensive ends in the league. I will put that down, stamp it. Number one going is the defensive end.


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[Assistant] I like the fact that uh, Nick Chubb, I was going to go with that too. It was a consideration. Cause if, I know there's not too much behind him and Jerome Ford, but when you got Nick Chubb, you just take the best. I actually like, I think Ford would be alright. I do too. I like Ford.


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[Assistant] Man, by the way, Boo has that voice of the Jehovah's Witness knocking on your door on Saturdays. They real, hey, they're so nice. They'll tell you, they'll be like, listen.


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[Assistant] No, you, you thought you got that off. That was a good, that was a good try. I like Watson.


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[Assistant] You know, the Watson pick is a projection. Little bit of a reach. Little bit of a reach. Now, I thought the O-line was a reach. I think there's somebody sitting on the board that's ripe for the picking for Jackson.


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[Assistant] Trap card face down. And because I was able to do that, I was able to take one of my monsters from the graveyard, bring him back, because Jason didn't understand that I got to attack his health and life points directly.


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[Assistant] Now I bring the Dark Magician out, I play my, my, my move, Wing Dragon of Ra. No, actually, I'm gonna actually just go ahead with my Yu-Gi-Oh scheme, and I'm just gonna take the Ra receivers.


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[Assistant] Give me the wide receivers. Give me the past catchers. Yeah. And by the way, thank you for adding additional life points to my monsters. Uh, and I have a blue eyes, white dragon ready to go. Now, listen, I'm gonna tell you what.


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[Assistant] David and Joku, top 5 pass catching tight end. No. Top 5. On projection. On projection.


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[Assistant] Projection. Now I think he's going to be involved in the offense a lot more with this passing, passing attack. You already had Amari Cooper. You get a whole year of Amari Cooper winning an elite quarterback. Bull set him himself.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson, higher than the receivers because he believes Deshaun Watson will get there. Thus, if I take what my man Bull says and extrapolate that and have the trickle down theory, that means the wide receivers will be a better group as well. Now Elijah Moore, you got, you got all the pieces of parts. You got a big receiver until me, you got a guy underneath and Elijah Moore, guess what? We are now looking competent and we just talked about it.


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[Assistant] I mean, if they get DeAndre Hopkins, this looks like another great pick for myself. So wide receivers is a no-brainer. Uhm, and it can't be refuted. This was an unfair exercise.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop it. Stop it. Yeah. Like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go in a, I'm gonna go in a place that people didn't think.


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[Assistant] I tell you what, look, I love the fact. What was G. Bush saying all year?


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[Assistant] Hey, it was Joe Woods. Joe Woods, I've been on a grind to get him out of here since 2019.


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[Assistant] He up outta here. Now you get a competent guy in Jim Schwartz, who, who is the father in developing some of those defensive linemen that we talked about. So if I'm gonna pick the defensive line, and I got defensive ends,


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[Assistant] I want to have the coach to get him to get him in a position where they can get that. Jim Schwartz is that. Bubba Ventrone is well respected around the league as one of the best special teams coaches. Now, the Brown special teams, guess what? They were so bad they cost them games multiple times.


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[Assistant] Running into the kicker. We are, you can't, you know, recover onside kicks. Guess what? We happen to have a guy right now that has played here before, is not going to take no games, and is going to be a dude that's going to be ready to go Special Team Flyers in Coach Susanski. Now, I've been in Coach Susanski all the time, but here's my thing.


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[Assistant] I like what he did in going to the seminar and my man Jason Lloyd says,


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[Assistant] Jason Lloyd says that Coach Stefanski is a guy that's moldable, he's a guy that is a player's coach, and they'll run whatever necessary it takes to get Deshaun Watson, your guy, who you picked, ready to go. So if I take that in his word for it, it's no brainer, I'm gonna go with the coaching style.


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[Assistant] You know, shout out to everybody in the chat, man. We see you, man. You know, we, we in the building. The belt, I don't need, see Tybus and the rest of these guys, they pick the belt up all happy and excited. They be winning once or twice.


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[Assistant] But when you're a perpetual winner, when you're the Intercontinental Champion, the People's Champion, the World Wrestling Federation Champion, and the WCW Nitro aka slash ECW Champion, Gee Bush is here. We are here.


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[Assistant] Logan Allen just, I mean, so, so who's, who's, cause they still got the young dudes by being, you got Allen, which guy is moved out of rotation when you get these


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[Assistant] Five games under 500, or it just seems like when teams are under 500, you naturally have this propensity to be like, you're not a real contender.


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[Assistant] I think we know at this point what they are offensively. And even, you know, Tito says something, I think it was after he lost, lost to the cardinals. He said, hey look,


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[Assistant] If yelling worked, I would be yelling at guys all the time. Like to see if it would work. But it's not. You just have to go up there and we gotta get here early, stay late, and figure it out.


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[Assistant] I think even he at this point is even resigned to the fact that


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[Assistant] They are who they are offensively and that's not going to change much.


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[Assistant] Specifically the Guardians, when you look at the way they try to go about getting, you know, the middle of the road guys that are gonna hit, maybe guys that are, you know, a little undervalued that he can get for a nice solid price, like you said, six millions a lot. It kind of reminds me of what they did with like, Bourne and Swisher, right?


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[Assistant] They went out and got those two dudes and those were the big splashes and I don't think


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[Assistant] Because the rest of your, the way the rest of your roster is constructed of younger players or players you're trying to develop and give an opportunity to, and you're trying to do this all on the run, you're trying to stay competitive, you wanna get some, you gotta get some veterans, if you miss on just one of those dudes,


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[Assistant] Right field is a revolving door, uh, and then Arias hasn't, they, I felt like they thought Arias was gonna come up and grab a position and be like, okay, we just gotta play him.


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[Assistant] He hasn't really grabbed the position, cause there's still... He hasn't really had much of a chance until recently.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, if you had, if you had, even if you had a DH, that was just...


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[Assistant] Just a thumper. He struck out a bunch of times, but he's gonna give you 35 home runs.


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[Assistant] I thought it was like 75, 80. Nah, it went up a little bit this year.


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[Assistant] Bull just named like ten dudes. He named like ten outfielders.


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[Assistant] For like, like the St. Louis Cardinals. Bro, first of all, that's the National League team. Obviously you do watch the Cubs, so that helps a little bit, right? But the fact that, come on, I'll give you credit bro, like that is very impressive.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't have not known if them dudes was car mechanics or like the head of- Car mechanic or cardinal. Or cardinal.


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[Assistant] But I think he will, he probably will play against Denver. My lord, this is, I love this for not only just sports in general, I like this to show people that certain things matter. You take a look at Caleb Martin, you look at Vincent, you look at Duncan Robinson, you look at some of the dudes that they


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[Assistant] This is what it takes a level of player to get to where you want to go. You got a Caleb Martin 26-10 and three assists in a closeout game in the garden on the road.


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[Assistant] Jenny's not doing that and, and we, we talk about being Wade and these guys that he are getting these guys.


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[Assistant] Or getting guys that you don't even think are gonna show up to ball out. They got Jimmy Butler.


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[Assistant] Kyle Lowry hit a couple big shots. Hey, and Bam Adebayo, he changed his game right in front of me, right? They, they, they, they had him started to bring the ball up to court, have him initiate offense, and it just goes to show you coaching counts too. You got an A seed. People didn't like to play in. Guess what? The heat.


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[Assistant] I hate the plan. I still hate the plan.


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[Assistant] Well, it just goes to show you. They lost the first game in the play. It just goes to show you that if you lock in.


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[Assistant] These teams can beat you. This is how tough it is in the NBA now. Like this is, this is a new league. All that rest of the stuff where you gonna cakewalk through it. They went through the gauntlet. They won three games in Boston and they could have folded like a cheap suit.


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[Assistant] Like it, they lost on the most demoralizing way you can lose on a tip-in. And guess what? Spostra had them dudes out there ready. Like ready to go. Like no, we ain't worried about that. Let's go. He was, I seen him. Man, listen, it's just, it was a, it was tremendous.


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[Assistant] And if Miami wins, it's one of the greatest feats I've ever seen in my life.


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[Assistant] Bam is small. Well, he can't defend. I mean, nobody can defend. Jokic, Jokic is gonna have enough. I mean, but that Aaron Gordon is big, uh, um, Porter Jr. is big.


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[Assistant] You gotta look at Boston a little bit too. I look at that series.


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[Assistant] I was expecting more from Jalen Brown. Like, you know, you know Jason Tatum has a hurt ankle. You know he's hobbling a little bit. I expected him to do his thing. Nineteen, eight and five. But the crazy thing, eight turnovers.


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[Assistant] He was not great. I still really like him, but he wasn't great. It was, I mean, it calls out game and that's, that just goes to show you if you want to be known as the guy, the man, like,


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[Assistant] You're gonna have to, cause I think he does see himself as the man on a, on a team, or the best player on the championship team. We're gonna be doing that. You, you gotta show up in these closeout games. I give Miami credit though. Uh, they went in there and smoked them and they played heat basketball and grinded it out. Never, never, never got it.


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[Assistant] I like that. Hey, it just goes to show you man, coaching counts man. Of course, especially in the playoffs. Like when people start saying, well, I don't know if we got a good coach or not. I mean, who else are we going to go get?


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[Assistant] So, and I don't like to keep making comparisons. We'll go back and probably do the, there's a segment we'll do later on the show about watching the playoffs. What are your thoughts about the Cavs?


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[Assistant] They could have came out there and got blew out by 20 and nobody would have blinked. They'd be like, well, you know, they were done in game six, but he had them ready to go. What do you got?


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah. His only bad pick is what, uh, Wiseman?


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[Assistant] That one hurt. Because that could have reset the dynasty. That was the reset.


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[Assistant] I mean two, was it number one? No, he was number two.


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[Assistant] Who, who, who else went in that draft? No, Edwards was number one pick. Edwards was one.


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[Assistant] So Edwards was one that took James Wyman to, LaMelo went three. Is there any other of note guys after those dudes?


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[Assistant] Cause that don't tell me if it really, really, really, really, really hurt like it was somebody good. By the way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean if you missed on him, but it's hard if you missed on him.


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[Assistant] I would argue that the Cavs with LeBron James having one championship after he had to come back a second time is a travesty.


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[Assistant] If you have the best play, like, when you, we've seen, when Bird and Magic was the best players, how many rings was they winning? They were in contention for years.


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[Assistant] When, when, when, when Jordan was running. They had to deal with each other. When they, when new Jordan was doing his thing, he was in contention for 10 years. The fact.


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[Assistant] Some of the rosters that they built around LeBron the first time were laughable.


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[Assistant] Those are laughable rosters. And to be honest with you, when he came back,


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[Assistant] It wasn't the fact that we were terrible. It was the fact that they bungled it again. They traded Kyrie. Like they bungled that move again in the front office. Then we ended up with a bag of mixed parts with Rodney Hood and Clarkson. So my thought process is this.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you're doing okay now, but I'm always in the NBA. You gotta be more than any other sport. You gotta be looking above the horizon. When you watch Brooklyn, when you watch some of these other teams, I realized in my heart of hearts, basketball was just different. If you have a superstar,


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[Assistant] You better be thinking about today and today only because that whole window thing, these dudes wake up one day and be like, yeah, trade me to the so and so. All of them do it. I've seen it happen. I saw, I knew it was different when Kawhi Leonard won a championship and he still left. Right.


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[Assistant] If, if, so, so my thought process is if you got Donovan Mitchell, you better be in the Eastern Conference Finals if you even want a shot at resigning him. And I still don't think he's going to resign period. So what are you going to do?


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[Assistant] Kobe Altman, he gon' get an opportunity to show whether he, he really got the mightiest touch.


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[Assistant] But because I don't see the assets, I don't see the money, I don't see all of that. So we gonna figure out what they gonna do between now and when he has that one year left.


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[Assistant] I'm in oracle. I'm in California, bro. And I had Steph Curry and Clay Thompson. If I was gonna do that, I'd just stay out here if I wanted to.


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[Assistant] Who cares where you are? And basketball, by the way, you talk about playing all them games of baseball.


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[Assistant] They be starting, so they play in the summer, cause they continue to play. Don't have it be Olympics. Then you get to training camp. Training camp is like September.


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[Assistant] We should, we should, we should do it. Now, how, how big is... Now the USCSS family is huge.


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[Assistant] Like that, there's, we got, we got cousins.


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[Assistant] Like, like, the family is crazy. Now we, you know, that, that means that we, we gotta get, we gotta get Jay off the boat. Mike Pope gotta stop telling stories, telling like jokes. I mean, I don't know if Brad is...


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[Assistant] Are you guys getting these too? What? I've been getting these like...


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[Assistant] I get these tweets, like, these different candidates asking for money. Like, today it's Gavin Newsom. It's Gavin. It's Gavin, like, he's asking you individually.


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[Assistant] Will you, will you pitch sports to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, uh, ahead of tomorrow's end of the month deadline? What is the deadline? What, like, are you asking me personally to, to like contribute to the debt ceiling or what are you talking about? What are you talking about?


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[Assistant] It's crazy. And then it'd be like, it'd be like, like yesterday was Mitch McConnell. They say, hey, it's Mitch, it's Mitch over here. And I'm like, this is crazy. So you're getting it from Democrats and Republicans. Yeaah, I'm getting up. You're very popular with both groups.


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[Assistant] Yeah, listen, I don't know if they've been listening to my takes, bro. They just be like, listen, you know, we got him. We think he, listen, he might be the black Candace Owens. Listen.


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[Assistant] The male version, the male version. But that would mean you'd be Jason Whitlock though, so it's the same.


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[Assistant] There's always a way to make it. If they have the money, if they, to me money is no object. On a one year deal, I would do it. I don't care what he wants.


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[Assistant] Unless you're projecting, unless you're projecting him to not get as many touches as he will in a ball court.


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[Assistant] Hey boogie, do not, I better not catch you. I better not catch you down in Highland Park in Canton, bro. You stay out the projects, bro. When you get, don't be around here creeping around. Listen, you got your little tie, you better, you gotta save your energy. Don't be around there moving like that.


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[Assistant] Hey ma'am, you know, you know Boogie, this is crazy. We was talking about this the other day and that was all you were some people on Twitter. Like,


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[Assistant] They were saying that it's a big deal that Miles Garrett wasn't at, like, they was going crazy, Miles Garrett wasn't at OTA's, right? And I was trying to tell them, like, look bro,


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[Assistant] Like, Miles Garrett, yes, he's not gonna be at OTAs, but when you look at, like, some of the other guys in the room, guys that are undrafted free agents, guys that's trying to make rosters, guys that might be from the XFL, USFL, wherever they are, Arena, like, those guys are gonna be out there taking them reps.


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[Assistant] And they're going to be taking them reps for their livelihood. Like,


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[Assistant] If you were out there and you know from your perspective what you're playing,


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[Assistant] It don't, I mean, does Miles Garrett not being there influence you as a person trying to make a roster? Like, at what point does that, like, does that register? Or you out there like, listen, I'm trying to feed my family. I don't care if Miles Garrett show up tomorrow or not. I gotta figure this out.


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[Assistant] Oh, two big baseball games tonight. Little League and Avon Lake and Rocky River. Let's get it done.


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[Assistant] This isn't a very large group of people, but they're very vocal. And they attach themselves to Trump.


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[Assistant] Hey, it's a Thursday Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. Here we are, same crew as Tuesday. Back, uh, we'll be doing, uh, Brown's Defensive, uh, Projections from Mike Clay again.


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[Assistant] But yeah, first we gotta talk about cell phones, cause I'm like, I was just telling these guys right before we went on air, I got a new cell phone, right, and I'm all excited cause when you get the new cell phone, the battery life is fantastic. At least for the first couple of weeks, right? I'm seeing how long I can go unplugged with, until 20%, that's when I plug it in.


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[Assistant] There's my new phone, right? Yup. I have had it unplugged now for 51 straight hours.


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[Assistant] But, uh, Jason's charging his phone already at 10am now. Jason probably uses his phone more than I do, but I use it a lot. But you made the point that you got the shanks when you didn't have it recently.


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[Assistant] The only time I don't have my phone with me is when I go to Lily games. I leave it at home.


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[Assistant] And last night, I said to my assistant coach, I was like yea, I don't have my phone with me. He's like, really?


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[Assistant] You're not on your phone. Like, he couldn't believe it. He was stunned that I didn't have my phone. And I think, like, we lived, you know, people our age, we lived a lot of our lives.


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[Assistant] I just got my son an Apple Watch for his birthday. And the other day I was like, he was playing with his friend and I'm like,


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[Assistant] Alright, enough phone talk. We're all obsessed with phones. Let's get to baseball, well not baseball, but betting talk, which is mostly baseball with me. And I lost yesterday, the Red Sox crapped a bet.


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[Assistant] Alright, I got two podcasts I wanted to promote. Yesterday's podcast, you can still listen to that obviously, where I talk about ways to make the NFL, the NBA, and Major League Baseball better. None of these things will happen except for maybe the NFL suggestion.


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[Assistant] That's how you make it matter. Absolutely. And they'll never do it. Never do it. Never gonna happen. Also, on today's podcast, which will be out at some point in the next hour, I interviewed Hall of Famer Rick Barry.


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[Assistant] He gets, he's still mad that Shaq never shot the underhand in free throws just because it would look stupid. He said Shaq, he could have made Shaq an 80% free throw shooter.


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[Assistant] Could you imagine how, what the number Shaq would have put up?


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[Assistant] But anyway, so check out that interview with Rick Barry and be out some point today. Uh, for the bet I lost yesterday, first loss of the week. I got two for you today. The Cubs minus 117 against the Mets. I think it's the first time I picked my, the Cubs all year.


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[Assistant] And here's why I like them. First of all, the Mets are playing lousy baseball. Now the Cubs were not playing particularly good baseball either, but they've gotten hot with the Bats in this series. Number two.


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[Assistant] The anomaly that is Kyle Hendricks. He's coming off the injured list to pitch this game against the Mets.


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[Assistant] In this modern Major League Baseball, Kyle Hendricks is a unicorn. Because he does what everybody else doesn't do. And that's he's a control pitcher who doesn't throw hard. And the Mets team is a feast of famine team. They're a bunch of sluggers.


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[Assistant] They're not good, and it's hard to homer off Hendricks. Now, it is a little risky because he's coming off the injury list and hasn't pitched in almost a year. But he's fresh, he's got some good rehab starts, he's gotten better every time, so I like the Cubs today. And then, the safe bet is always betting against Oakland.


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[Assistant] Uh, you gotta bet them on the run line because they're too big a favorite straight up.


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[Assistant] But at minus one and a half runs, they're only minus 108. So it's basically even money if you bet him would run in a half. Logan Gilbert pitching for the Mariners. He's very good. It's irrelevant who's pitching for the A's because they all suck. It's the worst team I've ever seen. I said they would break the 62mets record. They're on pace to do it.


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[Assistant] And remember that was an expansion team. They are 10 and 41, the A's. And in 41, remarkable, uh, Mariners win by a number of runs tonight. So there you go. All right, let's get to some football talk, Mike. What do we got?


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[Assistant] Guys, for me it's a no deal. I don't care at all. Uhm, if it was a guy who was coming off a significant injury maybe, or it was a young player.


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[Assistant] Maybe I care a little bit. Would I rather them be there than not? Sure. If I had to choose, I'd rather the guys be there. But to me, it's no big deal. These are all veteran players.


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[Assistant] I guess if you cared about anybody, it might be Najoku. It's a little weird to me that Nick Chubb is not there because I feel like he's always at these things. But in the end, I don't care. It's a zero deal for me.


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[Assistant] We talked about, uhm, I think you make some fair points. We, we talk about Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] As great as he's been, having that one more year that only a few players can get to, that he can, or at least we think he can, and he hasn't. And everything is set, for the first time in his career, he's in a perfect position


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[Assistant] To reach that set, that final level, if you will, because the talent around him is the best it's been. The defensive coordinator is the best he's had. The help around him, he has.


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[Assistant] It's there. In the grand, in the, in the big picture, uhm, I, I think, you know, if he's, he might even be there today. Who knows? I mean, I don't know what the plan is. Right. If he's at the rest of the off-season work and he's healthy for training camp, yeaah, we'll look back. Who cares? Wasn't a big deal. But, yeaah.


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[Assistant] To some small degree, I think it's a fair point with him specifically.


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[Assistant] I think Jason's point is, it doesn't even matter necessarily if he practices. Yeaah, it's present either.


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[Assistant] And I don't know about you guys, but like, you said that those three guys will forget Najoku because he's not as important to the team as the other guy.


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[Assistant] Betonio, Chubb, and Miles Garrett, uh, have been the three best Browns, right? They're all guys who could be in the Hall of Fame or something. For me,


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[Assistant] And, and I'll admit, I don't know this to be 100% true. This is just my feeling on the situation. It may be totally unfair. And maybe it's because Miles Garrett is the freakiest of freaks that I feel this way.


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[Assistant] But in my mind, Joel Batonio and Nick Chubb do everything they possibly can to be the greatest player they could possibly be. And for me, Miles Garrett, like those guys do 100.


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[Assistant] And to me, Miles does 95. Now that may be completely unfair. That's just how it feels to me. It's just an impression. I don't know.


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[Assistant] Twice. And he already spoke to the Cleveland media.


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[Assistant] We, the expectations for him are, are, couldn't possibly be higher. And so maybe that's a little unfair, but I mean, that's what I would want if I were a player. It comes with the salary he's made.


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[Assistant] I say he does better because he better do better than that. I want more. It's so funny because for most players again, most players, 13 sacks would be a hell of a season for Miles Garrett. That's not good enough.


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[Assistant] That's not Defensive Player of the Year. No! I want 20 sacks. I want at least 17. Minimum. He's got an average of sacking game, minimum.


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[Assistant] No, and, and, you know, playing in the AFC, there's a lot of teams that are throwing the ball. The AFC in general, you know, in general the NFL, but especially the AFC with all these big time quarterbacks that you're facing in 12-17 games against AFC teams.


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[Assistant] Now, the Steelers or Ravens tend to run, I get that. But, it was interesting, I don't know if you guys saw this, this quote. Did you see the quote from, anybody see the quote from Lamar Jackson yesterday? I did.


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[Assistant] He talked about Todd Monkin, who is the new Ravens offensive coordinator. He expects to be running a lot less this year. I don't remember the exact quote exactly when he said word for word, but basically it was, I don't expect to run. Well good, we'll take that.


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[Assistant] Now, I think the truth is, we all know that your instincts are your instincts. So, if Lamar, if the play breaks down, Lamar's gonna run. Right. Right. Most quarterbacks look to throw, get out of the pocket and throw, Lamar gets out of the pocket and runs. However,


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[Assistant] The way he's talking, it would make sense. And you don't want him running as much because even though he's great at it, you're going to get hurt eventually. And so I would think there'll be a lot less designed runs for Lamar in this new offense with the new OC, but he's still going to play breaks down. I'm out of here. Hey, we're still going to see that.


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[Assistant] Okay, so our, uh, uh, Lamar Jackson has obviously the most rushing yards from a quarterback through five years. All right, Cam Newton is second.


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[Assistant] How many more yards roughly do you think Lamar has rushing than Cam Newton through five years, through the first five years of his career?


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[Assistant] 500. Maybe 1400. You almost nailed it. 13 and change. Wow. I mean think about that.


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[Assistant] They could throw it, I think they'll throw it, run it a little less, but not like a huge difference. I don't buy that, but anyway.


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[Assistant] So in the end, there's gonna be a lot of passing. It's a passing league. There'll be plenty more sacks this year. There better be or the Browns are in trouble. Go ahead Mikey, number two.


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[Assistant] Can I do neutral? I was just going to say, I think that's, what do we do for right on? I think it's like about exactly what he's going to do. I don't think it's going to be better or worse. Like I could see him with one more sack. Yeah, I'm going to do that same as Jason.


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[Assistant] I'm going even. I think that's basically what he's gonna do. You think he's gonna be better?


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[Assistant] I'm going to stand up over you. I just think that, I actually think Mike Clay's projection of his playing time is a little high because I think at his age and with the, with having oboe on the team, I think he'll play a little less than that. I think they're going to want to keep him fresh. I think so. Yeah. I think he's in the 60%, which I'll, which is why I think eight and a half tacked with somewhere near there.


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[Assistant] Is, is pretty, is good. Like yeaah, maybe he gets 10 sacks, that would be great.


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[Assistant] He had the back before. Right, and that's why I play him less. You, you know, you signed Oboe, you gave him good money. I play him less, keep him fresher. Go ahead, Mike.


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[Assistant] How many sacks did the Browns have as a team last year? Can you look that up real quick? Yea, give me one sec. Take Miles' number and add three. Well, a bunch of guys had like one or one and a half. Uhm, but, uh, like I'm expecting Miles Garrett to have...


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[Assistant] There's 34 as a team. I got 37 between the 3 ends. But I'm expecting those 3 guys to get at least 34 between them. Yes. I don't think that's too much. If you had 18 for miles, say 9 for Zidarius is 27, and then 7,


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[Assistant] For Oboe, that's 34 right there. I don't think that's unreasonable. It's high but not unreasonable. No. I'm expecting from those three guys, 30 to 35. Somewhere in that range. And, and so that's just from the ends. Last year they got that from the whole team. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I actually got him a little higher than this because I think he's going to play more, more, what percentage of the time?


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[Assistant] Not significantly different than what they got, but I got him a little higher than, than Mike Lay's protection projections. If they give you, if they give him four and a half. Yeaah. You're even.


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[Assistant] See, I don't want him to be the starter. I want one of these other guys they brought in to emerge. He might be the starter, actually. No, he might. I mean, that second defensive tackle starting spot is up for grabs. Yes, it is. It's, it's who, who's going to get, hopefully, hopefully somebody earns it instead of, well, they all suck.


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[Assistant] I got him with under 40% of the snaps and I have him with half a sack.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's, that's all. I mean, who the hell knows?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I gotta say worse than that. I'm with you.


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[Assistant] No, he don't play all of them snaps. I think the rest of the numbers are fine. I just don't think he's going to play that much. Yea, I don't either. I mean, he'll play a lot, but not 99% of the time.


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[Assistant] It's like the league leader had like four last year.


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[Assistant] I think it was six. Oh, was it six? Guys are not getting interceptions like they used to.


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[Assistant] I think it's funny that you got a cornerback with a half a sack. Half a sack, yeaah. Half a sack. It's like your projection is that he blitzes and gets there at the same time as a defensive lineman. Right, uhm. Cause he's not gonna bring him down by a sack. Yeaah, I'm with you guys. There's no way he plays 97. I mean, if he did, that'd be fantastic.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I agree. I think he's, I think the snaps at interceptions don't fit. Right. They don't align. If he's gonna play that much, I'm expecting 5-6 interceptions at least.


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[Assistant] I'mma do this because I don't think. I think overall he's going to be better than those numbers.


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[Assistant] I mean, the only thing I found him to be way off on, to me, was oboe.


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[Assistant] No, but a defensive lineman is much more likely to get a half a sack than a corner. So Denzel is a half and Martin is a half. What do you think?


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[Assistant] But we said we was not talking about snaps, right? Well, but, but I'm being realistic, but we're not talking about snaps in terms of injury. So if we're not, if there's no injury, I'm expecting you to play 98%.


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[Assistant] I'm expecting, I would expect that to be, ward the, if they were all healthy, ward the highest percentage, then Emerson, then Newsom.


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[Assistant] You can't tell fans and media members, like again with his comments yesterday,


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[Assistant] Again, I love that he's positive. I love that he wants to change the culture. He's like, well, Chiefs fans expect to win, Browns fans don't, we gotta have that. Well, Chiefs have won the freaking Super Bowl. Of course their fans expect to win. Browns threw a parade for a win this season. Yeah, how do you expect Browns fans to expect to win?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's true. I think he'll have a few more than that. But I think it's pretty dead on.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean I think overall this is right there. I think it's right there.


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[Assistant] So he's got from the three starting corners and the two safeties, he's got what? How many interceptions does he have for Ward 4?


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[Assistant] So 12 interceptions from the five top guys.


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[Assistant] Alright, so he's got 13 interceptions from the secondary essentially.


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[Assistant] No, you usually don't play more than two safeties that much in a game, right? I mean, you play multiple corners, but.


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[Assistant] I do think he'll be productive in a limited role, like, but I don't expect him to play 45%, like, but I think at 25-30% of the place he can be productive in that.


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[Assistant] Sure. In that vein. But I also agree with you that it would be very helpful helping these guys in secondary learning the system.


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[Assistant] But the reality is the D-line should be good and the secondary should be good. 100%. Linebacker is still a big question mark. We don't know that any of those guys can play.


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[Assistant] Uh, by the way, this barely passed. It needed 24 votes to pass. It got exactly 24. It was 24 to 8. The Browns voted for it. So you can blame Jimmy.


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[Assistant] I mean, we've had some really bad Thursday night games. Okay, to me guys, this is a no-brainer. This is great, okay?


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[Assistant] I think a lot of people's first reaction is, oh my god, what if you bought tickets to a Sunday game and now it's a Thursday? Okay, first of all, the majority of people don't go to games. The majority, it seems sometimes we're so obsessed with the people at the games. The majority of football fans never go to games. Never.


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[Assistant] Most football fans never go to games. That is actually true. Okay that's number one.


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[Assistant] Number two, we all watch those night games most of the time. I want a good game. I don't want to see some shitty game late in the year. The Thursday night games a lot of times suck.


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[Assistant] Okay, yeaah, for the players, it can stink. It's not like you're finding out the Sunday before that it's moving up. They're going to have to decide it, I think, three weeks before. They can't put the same team on there too many times. I think it's only one that can be added. So it's not like you can add that many. And not every player hates Thursday because the


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[Assistant] Yes, it's a short turnaround. However, the Thursday also gives you an, uh, kind of an extra buy after that. Brandon Stokely, I was talking to him recently. I was like, how much do you hate Thursday night games? He goes, I love the Thursday night game.


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[Assistant] He goes, you know, maybe the running backs hated or maybe the linemen. I loved it as a wide receiver because I felt like, alright, I was ready to go by Thursday and now I got another, he thought of it as another buy.


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[Assistant] To me, yeaah, there's a small, a lot of the players don't like it, but they knew the deal.


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[Assistant] They knew Thursday night football. They've agreed to everything as you said. I don't, I don't. Listen, when the players didn't know the, the.


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[Assistant] The negative side effects about concussions, when that stuff was being hidden, yeaah, I got the sympathy for you. The players know the deal now. They know the dangers, they know the Thursday night, they agree to that, they agree to 17 games, and you know what? It's gonna go to 18 games at some point, and they're gonna agree to that too. Because they make more money when these things happen, and they want more money. So, that's it.


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[Assistant] 1% of fans that are gonna get screwed because they can't go to that Thursday night game and they bought tickets for Sunday night game. Tough Noogies! Hey!


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[Assistant] And by the way, something I talked about in my podcast that is the one rule they might change in these sports that would make, it would be so much better for the NFL and for the players.


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[Assistant] And it would be, this, this I think would help TV also. I don't know why they didn't do it when they went to 17 games. I've been screaming about this for two years. And if they go to 18 games, I feel like they have to. You gotta have double bi-weeks. Oh, I don't, that's a no-brainer. And you'd make the season longer. That's more product for the TV market. That's a no-brainer. And less time off between baseball and football.


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[Assistant] I think the only argument I heard, Albert Brewer once said that the TV networks were worried that there'd be some weeks where there'd be not enough good games. However, right now you have, most weeks there's four teams on a buy, right?


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[Assistant] So, there's like one or two weeks where it's six teams, and then it's mostly four. Well, if you went to double buys, now remember,


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[Assistant] You can't, if you went to double buy at 18 games, say in theory, that's a 20 week season. That's three more weeks than you currently, oh no, right now you're playing 18 weeks. So that'd be two more weeks of product.


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[Assistant] One, because it's an unfair advantage for a team to get one that late right before the playoff. And two, this may sound stupid, but this is a huge industry. You would totally destroy...


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[Assistant] Uh, season-long fantasy football, if you had bi-weeks at the end of the season, because you can't have bi-weeks in fantasy football playoffs that would screw up fantasy football. And like it or not, whether you're not into fantasy, fantasy is a huge part of football and its popularity.


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[Assistant] But that affects their gambling partners, I think. I think it does. But anyway, I don't think they're going to have buys late in the season anyway. But you could, if you did buys week 4, if you had a 20 week season and you did buys week 4 through 16, you'd have some weeks with 4 and then you'd have more weeks with 6.


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[Assistant] NFL gets great ratings for everything. They get better ratings for the draft than most sports get for their games. So, I mean. They'll watch. It doesn't matter what you craft.


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[Assistant] And, you know, so you, you know, it'd be tricky, you gotta figure it out.


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[Assistant] Oh yeaah. Oh yeaah. Oh yeaah. Absolutely. I played one preseason game.


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[Assistant] I mean, the veteran players don't need the pre-sale.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't like that. But you'd definitely go down to at least two. Go ahead, Mike.


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[Assistant] By the way, I think it's, I don't know why I'm waiting almost 13 months to say this, but I think in the intro to what is the internet saying, I think it's funny that like one of the main pictures is like smokestacks, which is so old school and couldn't have anything less to do with the internet and modern technology. That was not one of the very few things.


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[Assistant] Everybody on the, now they, they have, they have a kid, Asturi Ruiz, their leadoff hitter, who may have to steal 80 bases this year. He's a nice player, alright?


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[Assistant] The nature of the sport, there's no, every player can suck, every player can have bad stats. Same for football.


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[Assistant] Even with a lot of touches, a running back could get, you know, there was one year, a couple years ago where like, Rex Birkhead was getting 15 carries a game for the Texans. But he was averaging like 37 yards. He was stuck. In basketball, just the nature of the sport.


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[Assistant] You know, it's funny, right, and I, we'll see what happens with this Guardians season, we'll talk about it more later. Last year, I thought the Guardians were not going to be very good. I thought they were a 500 team right here, right? And they way overachieved based on what I and probably you and many other people thought. And they had a great season, they went to the playoffs, they almost beat the Yankees, they fell short. Okay.


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[Assistant] We were all like, 90 wins, gonna win the division. Now, they may ultimately do that. And I'm certainly not counting them out, especially because the division sucks. I mean, they've lost 22 of 33 and they're four games out.


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[Assistant] Just overachieved last year and they're going to regress to the mean or to what we thought they were going to be last year.


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[Assistant] To Jason's point, like, yes, right now we're feeling down on the Cavs because they sucked in the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And the year before they sucked in the play-in. And so it feels like, well, these guys are never going to come through when it matters. But the reality is that they're a young team. Most of their key players are young. And even though Donovan Mitchell's, I mean, he's still relatively young, but he's been in the league.


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[Assistant] He's only played with these guys for one year. Now they get a full offseason together.


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[Assistant] Yes, the regular season is meaningless, but they might even with a similar team with a couple of additions, you know, as the fourth, fifth, or sixth guys.


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[Assistant] Vanderbilt, what they'd have to trade Vanderbilt and Hachimura, let's go. We'll see, we're getting it there. Let's go.


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[Assistant] By the way, you gotta find somebody, but you gotta find somebody. Sidebar, uh, who do you think Miami and Boston win tonight?


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[Assistant] I think Boston wins, but I think Miami wins the series still. If, if Boston wins, listen, one of these days the team's gonna come back down 0-3.


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[Assistant] I know it's never happened in the NBA, but it's happened four times in the NHL. It's happened once obviously in baseball with the Red Sox against the Yankees. If Boston wins tonight...


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[Assistant] Sorry, yeaah, I'm sorry, yeaah. Miami better win this time. Even though game 6 would be in Miami, they would be filled with pressure, cause you know if you lose that game...


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[Assistant] All the guys you're excited about you can't get. And all the guys you're like, eh. You're like, oh, we can get that guy.


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[Assistant] He's 26. I'm keeping Murray, I'm trading Garland, I'm cutting Moran.


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[Assistant] I'm cutting Morant. I'm cutting Morant. Yeaah, I mean I can't trust that guy.


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[Assistant] He's a little jack. They had to do a health, a wellness check at his house yesterday, apparently. I didn't see that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] How old, how old is Murray? Can you tell me? 26. Yeaah, I mean, I can't argue Garland over Murray.


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[Assistant] I don't know how many years she's got left.


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[Assistant] Okay, fair enough. So three different choices there. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] Two years left I believe. Are we considering contract? I wasn't really thinking about contract.


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[Assistant] I don't know. What about you, Mike? You think we should consider contract?


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[Assistant] I agree with Jason, I would have it the exact same way. Gotta keep at it.


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[Assistant] I'm keeping Denny Abia because I need a fellow Jew on my team. He's the only Jew in the NBA. I think. And the other two guys I'm cutting because they suck.


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[Assistant] Trading Vuchovic, or however the hell you pronounce his name, and I'm cutting Allen.


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[Assistant] The question is are we prisoner of the moment on this thing?


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[Assistant] And I love Damon. I love Sta- I love, uh, I love, uh, Stottemeyer. Stottemeyer.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I guess you're right. I can't disagree with that. I'm cutting David Stollmeyer too.


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[Assistant] I'm keeping, bam, I'm trading some bonus, and I'm cutting Seahawks.


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[Assistant] Who would be the third one? We don't know. Lawrence Goggins, maybe, he tweets at us a lot.


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[Assistant] Alright, Newsome on the hill. He's not on the mound for some reason. This would be an illegal pitch. He has the Concord Jordans on as well. He's checking out the catcher, looks in for the sign.


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[Assistant] Still staring. He's not happy with the sign right now. Steps back to the rubber.


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[Assistant] Sets for the pitch. He winds. He fires. Oh, way outside! A great play by the catcher. I can't tell who that is. Who caught the bat?


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[Assistant] I think that's average for a first pitch thrower, no? Uh, we'll go through it in a minute. Okay.


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[Assistant] He got the bust down, Shane. He's got a good look, and he's standing there like a pitcher. He sets, he winds, he fires. That's over! Strike one! Caught the edge.


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[Assistant] If you show me yours, ha ha. Oh boy.


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[Assistant] I know they're professional athletes, but they're not baseball players. It's a completely different type of skill. And I'm comparing it to the average person that throws out a first pitch. Juan Thornhill threw it fairly hard for a regular person.


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[Assistant] And again, I know he's an athlete, maybe I should grade him a little harsher than a regular person, but he's not a baseball player. And he threw it hard, he threw a strike. I mean, how often do guys throw a strike from the mound and throw it a first pitch?


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[Assistant] So that's an A plus to me, and I thought Greg Newsom, it wasn't a good throw, but compared to the average person, I thought it was basically average. It probably could have been a C minus, maybe it's a little below average.


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[Assistant] Right, but he did throw it hard. It was okay. I mean, we've seen some really bad, the Jesse Owens one, the Mayor of Cincinnati.


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[Assistant] By the way, I just thought of this for a second. Did you see, uhm,


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[Assistant] Remember the mayor of Cincinnati put his foot in his mouth last year in the Bengals 2 game? Yes. Did you see?


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[Assistant] I remember a couple of weeks ago we were talking about the schedule reveal videos that the teams did. Did you see in the Bengals one, the Mayor of Cincinnati in that one? No.


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[Assistant] So they have him saying, and in week whatever, I can't even remember, I think it was week 17, the Bengals play the Chiefs. And that's all I've got to say.


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[Assistant] Yeah. They're a bad baseball team. It's flat out, they're a bad baseball team. If they were in the east or the west, the season would be over right now.


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[Assistant] I actually still think they're gonna, as bad as they are, I still think they have a good chance to win the division.


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[Assistant] But, the team right now, they can't win in the playoffs. Oh no. They cannot win in the playoffs even if they make it. You know, and, and, I mean, you got Tampa Bay playing great baseball.


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[Assistant] The Yankees are playing really well right now. Everybody in the East is at least solid.


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[Assistant] Right? We know the Astros are good. The Angels are playing decent baseball. I mean, there's, there's only one team from the central going to the playoffs. That team is unlikely to do anything unless one of these teams makes additions or something. The, the Guardians is a flat out bad baseball team at the moment. Doesn't mean they're gonna be all year, but right now, they suck.


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[Assistant] And listen, I agree with everything you're saying and everything you just said there. Here's the bottom line. This team has done nothing in free agency and trades of significance in a number of years now.


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[Assistant] And then they had a great season last year. And because of that,


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[Assistant] And I think we overestimated their ability to repeat what they did last year. Because what they did last year,


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[Assistant] In reality, it was not sustainable. To have that much success from that many young players is not a sustainable way to win. Uhm, but you thought, okay, the bullpen's so good and the rotation's so good that they'll be fine. But those things haven't been, the rotation's been good, but not great, and the bullpen's been awful. So, it's all falling apart here.


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[Assistant] Again, we do have a long season and they might turn it around, but right now there's very little reason to believe offensively they can turn anything around. They're only free agent additions. Bell's been eh.


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[Assistant] That was been terrible. Well, he's been eh, since the terrible start. He's been terrible. Overall. Overall, overall he's been terrible. Fair. Okay, Zanino's useless. You're getting nothing out of Ryf. None of the young players, like they had all these young players.


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[Assistant] Gonzalez is back in the minors. Brennan's done nothing. Kwan's been okay. Kwan's okay. But not great. You know, uh, Rosario has been terrible. Jimenez signed the big contract. He's been terrible.


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[Assistant] So, who's producing? Nail has been okay. Uh, Mild Straw stinks. That was a bad contract at the time. Everybody complained that I said it was a bad contract. Everybody went bananas for his defense. Everybody went bananas because he hit in spring training. He stinks. Well, he stinks also.


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[Assistant] Like, this is not catcher. You don't want a non-hitting outfielder playing every day.


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[Assistant] Maybe so, but I find it impossible to believe that there aren't teams interested in some of these hitting. Sure, but what are you gonna get? Well, you gotta do something. You gotta have some proof.


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[Assistant] Listen, this is a great front office. Doesn't mean you're immune to criticism. They've been a little too passive, I think. They gotta be more aggressive. I know they're hamstrung by the owner and the payroll. That's not, there's nothing they can do about that.


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[Assistant] They have, they have what, 25 home runs as a team?


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[Assistant] Okay, have you, has anybody, have you guys heard of Christopher Morel? Christopher Morel, do we know who he is? No.


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[Assistant] Alright, he's a kid that cubs just- Now, I'm not complimenting the cubs, it just happens to be the example, because they've been their ass too, and they have a higher payroll in their ass.


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[Assistant] But the Cubs called this guy up two weeks ago. He's got nine home runs. Shut up. He's got nine home runs. The Guardians have 28 home runs in his skin.


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[Assistant] You don't have a, you don't have a legit major league starter. Mild Straw's not a legit major league starter, neither's Will Brennan, and neither is the catching situation.