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[Assistant] If my kid, if my kid gets a Kit Kat, cool. If he gets a packet of M&Ms, cool. If he gets, you know, like a Ziploc bag full of fucking Sour Patch Kids.


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[Assistant] So wait, when you consume cannabis, what's your preferred method of, uh, consumption? Uh. Besides anally. Oh my god.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, uh, I've been known to fly with a weed pen here and there.


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[Assistant] Then it's up to you. Then you have to insert it into your own body and just pray that TSA doesn't find you.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, we're gonna be all good in the next couple years anyway. They're not looking for weed pens, they're looking for friggin' bombs, and they're looking for hostages. Yeah, sharp objects, right. That makes sense.


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[Assistant] You know what I wanna be doing? I'm gonna be streaming some, uh, Tetris. Dude, I gotta play that now that you were talking about that. Oh, it's so fun. I love Tetris. Tetris Battle Royale. Fortnite meets Tetris. Oh, that's dope. It's insane. Yea, I wanna check that out. It's intense. And I've won a couple times. I'm trying to like put out a dope YouTube clip of me just crushing it.


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[Assistant] Wow, that sounds pretty cool. Yeah, cause I've actually been playing a shitload of Zelda for uh, the Switch as well. Which I love, I love Zelda ever since I was a little kid. So I've just been like working on that.


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[Assistant] The flyest thing in the world to me at that time. That's why I always said I wanted to get a Zelda grill, but then I got a grill and I wasn't really into it. It's a Zelda chain, like that cartridge.


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[Assistant] Ben Baller, where you at? Dude, that would be sick. That would be a flex. I could see that would be the kind of thing that would make sense to me. That would be sick. Yeah. But then I could get robbed by not only a street dude, but also a gamer. Also a gamer.


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[Assistant] You'd have a ton of people out for you right there.


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[Assistant] I seen a streamer who got a Nintendo 64 or maybe a PlayStation controller tattooed on his face. Which was cool. When are you gonna get faceted?


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[Assistant] We need that. I don't know, let's see how this record does.


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[Assistant] Let's see how many people ask for it in the chat and on your Instagram comments. If people comment on your Instagram saying that they want you to get a FaceTime, then you will in fact do it. That's the idea.


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[Assistant] Always, always high on your face. Post Malone, what up.


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[Assistant] Anyway, uh, hey, that was good. Good talking to you, man. Yeah, thanks for having me.


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[Assistant] To anybody who has donated for their music, I will be in the studio, the other studio in a couple hours on stream, so make sure you turn notifications on so you get alerted when we do this music stream slash Tetris 99 stream.


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[Assistant] Yeah, no jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, Soundcloud, iTunes. Bang!


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[Assistant] You know, I used to be a stripper and everything. So when I got really popular on Instagram, I was, I was stripping throughout the United States and I was going around listening.


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[Assistant] To what people was listening to. A lot of people have different styles. So it's like, what would be something that people like from every coast would love and enjoy? And it's like, boom. That's when I started doing music.


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[Assistant] I want you to take this serious. But they wasn't though. They was frontin' on the kid, y'er.


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[Assistant] I have a Lambo, I have a Lamborghini truck, I have a Bentley truck, I have a Maybach, and I have a Suburban, so five.


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[Assistant] Well, I grew up, like, you know, in what people would consider the ghetto. So yes, there was a lot of gang-related things, there was a lot of violence, but I also had a lot of fun growing up, like playing hide and go seek in the hallways, having hooky parties, and getting chased by the police. That kind of used to be so fun.


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[Assistant] It was just crazy, like, you always gotta be careful, you always gotta be on point, you always gotta be militant, like, you just gotta be militant, man!


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[Assistant] Well, ASMR is people like whispering or like eating on a microphone.


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[Assistant] Well, when I do private parties, I be so shy. Like I did a bar mitzvah not so long ago.


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[Assistant] That honestly is unlike any fast food item I've ever had in my life.


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[Assistant] Destruction Darius 2 hits its next major milestone recently when it underwent its first playtesting session from other people, with a complete island full of levels and high scores.


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[Assistant] I know it's been months since the last video, so I'll quickly get you up to speed on progress. Firstly, I could have reached this stage within weeks but it took a lot longer because firstly I'm busy with other things and secondly, it's been hard progress. I've not been adding new and exciting things to the game


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[Assistant] I've been fixing what's already there in a long-winded process of testing, finding a small bug.


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[Assistant] Trying to fix it and by crushing any extra bugs that pop up along the way. Yes, I know you'll judge me for this, because if you were ever to make a game you'd be able to skip this stage because it would all be perfect first time. Maybe you haven't ever finished making a game yourself, but that unfinished game you're working on is probably beautifully tidy.


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[Assistant] Good for you. But for me, once I reach a certain stage of playtesting, no matter how hard I try, every bit begins conflicting with other stuff and in the most unexpected and unimaginable ways.


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[Assistant] But I like it because although it's disheartening whenever you find a bug in a bit of the game that you thought was finished, fixing it is even more rewarding than the earlier stages of working on a game because the fixes often need to be more imaginative and challenging. Let me give you an example. I made a speedrun mode unlock once you've completed an island, that forces you to beat it again in one sitting. I then decided a destruction mode would also be good.


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[Assistant] But I didn't want it to conflict with the speedrun bit, so instead of making it from scratch I just copied the speedrun bit and changed it to suit destruction mode. Doing this saves a lot of work, avoids a lot of the problems I already fixed the first time and ensures that the two game modes never conflict with each other.


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[Assistant] But playtesting revealed all manner of other bugs that popped up from this process.


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[Assistant] Take the end of level flag. The thing you reach and it ends the level. This doesn't need to exist in the destruction gametype, but the camera pan when you start the level flies from this point to your start point, so I'd have to rewrite this bit for destruction mode as well. Or just position the flag on the player so it doesn't appear to pan at all.


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[Assistant] Why? Because once you reach the flag normally it makes you invincible otherwise you could die after you reached it, messing everything up. So I had to botch this fix as well.


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[Assistant] So there you go, a seemingly simple decision has far-reaching consequences. This has happened dozens of times in Destruction Darius 2 so far. Every time I fix a bug I think that's it, only to then find another that's caused by this later on. The only way I can really think of to avoid this is to prepare for every gameplay event and every problem from the moment you start the project.


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[Assistant] But that makes everything so complicated compared to just working on one bit at a time and doesn't guarantee that you'll avoid these problems anyway. And you miss out on all the cool ideas you have of the game after you've already begun working on it. The solution is to set aside plenty of development time for playtesting. Much more than you might originally think.


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[Assistant] I really think this is why most games are delayed or released in a buggy state. It's good to know that it even takes professionals by surprise. Anyway, playtesting time!


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[Assistant] On the train back home from my mini-holiday- something that takes just under 2 hours- I made an island and its levels from scratch, using the built-in editing tools I've made. I played through each level until I felt I got a very good score, then I set the gold and silver times based on that. Once I got home I then sent it off to 2 friends to playtest.


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[Assistant] It's easy to get carried away and to proudly send your creation to loads of people as soon as possible. But I'm staggering it with Destruction Darius 2.


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[Assistant] I want to reserve new playtesters for every stage so I don't lose sight of what it's like to be a new player to jump into the game for the first time.


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[Assistant] But right now the game is far too buggy and unpolished to subject brand new players to, so I let 2 experienced Destruction Darius players, The Cat of War and Dennis Stanistan, test it. Because the core gameplay is already in place and in need of testing. From the individual levels right up to the island campaign. And it's still early enough to change almost everything based on feedback.


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[Assistant] I still watch them livestream their first attempts. Here are some clips and your first proper look at what a campaign in this game will feel like.


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[Assistant] So, I know the game's more broken than I thought it was, which is better than not knowing. So I'll fix everything that they've mentioned, we'll add some more stuff and we're ready yet for playtesting Stage 2, a process I feel will repeat until it's ready to be released. And although the end feels further away with every day I invest into Destruction Darius 2, I know I'm making progress.


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[Assistant] Hello and welcome to Destruction Darius 2. This is all done in one take so I will be making mistakes with my MIRDS. But I just want to show you what the game's like at the moment. I have confidence in it. This is the main menu. It won't look like this forever. It's just a placeholder. Very convenient, all you have to do is click on something and you go to that screen. Like so.


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[Assistant] Here is the island overview. You get to choose which bit of the campaign you want to travel to. More of these islands will unlock as you get further through the game. Right now there's only one, even though it looks like there's two.


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[Assistant] I've added a bit of polish. You see seagulls, they flap their wings to go higher and they glide down again. I know, I get carried away with stuff like that, but... I dunno, it just gives the game a more likeable feel. The water has ripped straight out of Santa's Atanas. I really like it, but you can see there are little glitches when you move across it really quickly. It's very difficult to scale for any sort of resolution, but...


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[Assistant] I'll be working on this as well. Anyway, let's go into one of the islands.


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[Assistant] You can see right now that I haven't completed any of the, uh, the levels inside the islands. These are all the different scores you can get. You'll get an overview for every island in the game. Let's play.


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[Assistant] Once you beat an island, you can then speedrun through it, where you get to choose your own path through it to the end and you get a highscore based on that which you can submit online. You don't submit individual levels online because that's a lot of work for me and it's very easy to perfect a level.


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[Assistant] Speaking of which, these are all the times you can get for it. You can get bronze times if you complete it under 3 seconds, silver,


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[Assistant] Gold. And gold is the highest that you'll be rewarded for.


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[Assistant] This one is my own personal record for the level, so if you beat this then you know that you're good at the game. I didn't really think it was fair to subject normal players to my high scores, cos I do have a lot of experience with the game and did make the levels.


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[Assistant] But knowing how quickly I do it might also help the better players to know if there's another exploit that they haven't thought of when they're shaving time off for their online highscore record. I want this game to be fun for all skill levels so you can still complete the game even if you can't get bronze times. The better times are encouraged and they will unlock extra features.


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[Assistant] This is better than the first playthrough, cos you can now click on that to get into the level added a bit of a sound. This is from a mechanic keyboard, in case you're wondering why it sounds like a keyboard. Let's play!


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[Assistant] Still no music in the levels apart from the intro bit and the end bit. I like to think that this game's strongest soundtrack are the explosions. Worked for the first game, why change it?


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[Assistant] And also the sound of seagulls in the background. It's all based on islands, so I decided to get a load of sounds of waves and wind and seagulls. And I really think it gives the game a nice atmosphere. You can hear the fog on there as well. Yeah, I've worked a lot on the sounds. You'll probably hear that when I blow something up. Are you ready?


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[Assistant] There are stages to an explosion. When the explosions start, all the background sounds get quieter so you can just focus on the explosions and then after the final bomb has exploded, depending on how many you've blown up in a row, you'll hear like echoes of explosions and all the scattering debris and everything. It's really meaty and it's kind of what Destruction Dairies is based around. Just sheer destruction for the sake of it.


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[Assistant] I've added a little pop thing back from the original game. Doesn't do anything for gameplay but it just feels nice.


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[Assistant] The graphics isn't final. Graphics aren't final. But the effects should be quite similar, the way that- well I'll try and blow this up as well. The way that boulders land.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna shatter- OW! It landed on my head! Oh, speaking of which, these are the new gore effects. I'm very proud of them. I think I've got a button to, uh... Nope. Nope. Not that one. I'll get myself down to low health. Oh yeah.


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[Assistant] You can disable these blood effects if you think they're a bit too gory, but once again, part of what makes the game feel so meaty, so by default they will be on. And you can ramp them up to be ridiculous! Ta-da! I'm going to show you some of the ways you can exploit a level now.


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[Assistant] If you throw, if you throw a mine without moving, see the timer remains at zero.


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[Assistant] It's only when you start moving, at the time it starts, so, you can get a very low score, you do this, and then make a run to the end. This happens.


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[Assistant] But, I will be getting less than that because I also destroyed the whole level. If you get 100% destruction it takes another 20% off your score. It's all based on how much destruction you do. This is to make it so that you can't just get the perfect time on a level. There's a bit more complexity to it. If you have 100% health and you don't get any penalty to your time, and the more destruction you get the lower the time is.


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[Assistant] I'll give you the calculations somewhere but let's just say, it's very difficult to get THE perfect score in a level. And when you consider that you have to complete several levels in a row for a speedrun, it means that it's going to be quite a challenge to get to the top of the online highscore screen.


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[Assistant] Let's play another level. This running animation isn't final by the way, it's just a placeholder. I kinda like it, it's like Rick Dangerous.


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[Assistant] It's really fun to watch other people play on it. They'll tend to do something like this, and then they'll suddenly realise the mistake. And they're like, oh no, no, no, and it's always too late by then. Oh. Well it's normally too late.


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[Assistant] Splinters are back. I wouldn't say they're quite as dangerous as they used to be, but uhm, they've still caused some headaches.


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[Assistant] I've added a lot of clever little ways that you can improve your time and kept a couple of bugs in that also do the same thing. I'll show you an example of one in a second.


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[Assistant] I just know that come release day some smart house is going to see it and be like, oh you got this bugger and you didn't playtest it that well. When actually I was aware of it but I kept it in because I thought it was fun.


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[Assistant] Check this out. When you reach the end and you hold down the mouse button, you can continue to throw mines. This is a great way of getting rid of the last couple of blocks in a level. I'm gonna keep it in. I'm very proud of it. See, I only got a bronze score for that one. And the final level?


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[Assistant] I think I've said this before, but with this game, you make a level without much thought and then you play it and you realise there's quite a lot of depth to it.


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[Assistant] From my experience, puzzle games like this really do need some good gameplay.


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[Assistant] Right. Have to run to the end for this one. Just because it's more exciting!


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[Assistant] Bit of slow down right now. What I'm gonna do, I'm going on holiday in a bit.


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[Assistant] And I will bring my slow laptop and I will continue to work on this game on there until it's nice and smooth, because at the moment it's really inefficient, like every block creates like


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[Assistant] 30 new things and it doesn't need to, I can simplify that, I can get numbers down, I can get the framerates up and I will work on doing that so everyone can get a nice smooth experience on Destruction Darius. Cos there's no excuse why a 2D platformer should slow down.


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[Assistant] You can see I've got a pass and I can attempt the speedrun and destruction now. These were greyed out before.


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[Assistant] Speedrun is where you run through the level in one take, as quickly as you can, and you can submit that score to the high score table.


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[Assistant] It destroys all the levels on the island apart from these. These are destruction levels. You'll see that there's no end goal. That's because the GOAL is to destroy everything as quickly as possible.


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[Assistant] And your score is based on the sum of all three. If you die, then that score is added, so it makes sense to try and complete it first time.


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[Assistant] Exactly. Listen, I have a new, uh, sense of, uh, optimism going into these, uh, games now. And I'll tell you what we gonna get into. Cause I, cause this is an area of Smith.


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[Assistant] Man, I triple quadruple what they say in my head. Man, listen.


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[Assistant] A position of need like this into not only a serviceable line, not only a good line,


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[Assistant] But this is an elite line now. This is elite. We have never seen another, uh, end. No disrespect to Clowney, but the disrespect is real. No disrespect to, uh, somebody, uh, Emmanuel Armba, all those. This is the best dude that we've had.


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[Assistant] Opposite of Myles Garrett, and I'm almost tired of saying opposite of Myles Garrett. Now, you got defense alignment and waves and rotations. And this is giving me the level of confidence to not only say that the Cleveland Browns will, will, will get what I thought was 11 and 6. I think the Cleveland Browns, going into this, going with this move right here.


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[Assistant] I no longer look it on a schedule and say,


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[Assistant] Oh, can we win or lose that game? If Deshaun Watson plays the way he is supposed to with these acquisitions on defense, with the new receiving core, every single game the Cleveland Browns, you should expect when you go to the stadium, when you watch on TV, that your Cleveland Browns have a chance to win that game against anybody.


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[Assistant] They took it, they took it, they took it crazy. Like they got, no one, all these dudes getting 10 sacks. They got 7-8 guys getting 10 sacks. That's ridiculous. And the crazy part about it is those are detached.


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[Assistant] If you get 10 sacks as a de-tackle, that's really like 15, 16. Because you getting, you getting touched by everybody. A third eye by the guard. The center is touching you. You're getting chipped.


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[Assistant] And that's after you gotta earn the right to rush to pass it. So that means you gotta get off blocks in the first part of the series, when it's first or second down. So what they doing right now,


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[Assistant] Is over interior guys, and he's just too skilled. You see him swatting hands and getting to the side. He's rushing the edge. Guards can't quick set on him. It's just like, it's devastating. And when you got a guy like that in a quick twitch, well, type type scheme. Now.


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[Assistant] You can't, uh, go ahead. If you want to put Miles Garrett over there all the time, like, go ahead, go ahead over there. Like, Zedaria Smith is not going to sit up here and tell you, like, Jadevi and Clowney, they're trying to skee Miles Garrett open. He going to sit up here and say, well listen, I feel I'm just as good as Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] I feel like I'm just one of the, one of the best defensive ends and pass rushers in the game. So now that mindset, and I love it from this perspective, uh, the young old G8 at Ogbo, listen, he thought he was going to come in and this was his opportunity to start. Now guess what? It could still be his opportunity to start.


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[Assistant] Because now look at this depth. Look at guys now rotating. Look at guys now competing. Hey, Hill and Hurst might not be, hey.


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[Assistant] I don't know who's going to play, but now you got an opportunity to say, you're going to fight it out. This ain't no more camp cupcake. When you look at the ride receiver room and you look at the defensive line room, there are slim pickings when it comes to these rosters by today.


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[Assistant] The Orange Brown report had it. And when you look at


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[Assistant] The way that he is beating these guys. He can beat you with speed. He can beat you with power. He can beat you inside. He can beat you outside.


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[Assistant] He's able to, he's able to rush in all these different lanes. And now what you set up is packages where now if you can get a guy in third and long and third and more than 10 yards, now look what you able to do. Look at, look at some of this stuff right here. He's on a, on the right hand side. Now Boogie, this is clinic tape right here. Look.


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[Assistant] Swat and swim. Get off me. I'm getting home. I'm running the hoops and getting by him. And you look, you talked about that ball had to come out quick. Tackle him for no gain. Now you look at him right now.


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[Assistant] Look at the power. Transitioning the power. Goal rush. Right in the backfield. Boom. Geez. This guy, and he closes with impunity. He ain't walking around. There he is at the top of your screen on the left hand side.


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[Assistant] He has now set the Cleveland Browns up, so now, it's just not a Deshaun Watson thing. It's just not a Nick Chubb thing.


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[Assistant] It's just not an Amari Cooper thing, cause when you was coming in trying to play him, we gotta stop Amari Cooper. We gotta stop Nick Chubb. We gotta stop Miles Garrett. They just added another person that you got a game plan against. No, he got a game plan against this guy.


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[Assistant] I tell you what Jay, uhm, you know, I got so excited I had to print some stuff out.


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[Assistant] Now listen, I'm gonna throw a couple things out here. On run defense, he's only got a 70 score, 70 score, right? However,


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[Assistant] If you look at that 70th grade, look at what we had before. We was down in the 30s, 40s, 50s. And I believe when you're playing against a guy or playing with guys like Miles Garrett, you can ramp that up because now he's getting double team more than anybody in the league. And now that means you are singled up.


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[Assistant] Uh, 84.7 pass rush grade is one I really like. And I look at it, just not the sax. 10 sax is cool. That's awesome. Uh, the 28 solos is great. But take a look.


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[Assistant] And we talked about the front and the, and the secretary is married together, right? Look at the pressures. He had 10 sacks. He had 53 hurries.


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[Assistant] 78 pressures just coming from that guy. Not to mention with Myles Garrett bringing the table. And he's, he gonna be single tinged. And he gonna be single tinged.


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[Assistant] I think, I think he brings what it takes. Jay, I think he plays Violet.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was watching trying to get a little, little take on his, his attitude and what he's like. So, you know, they got to NFL top 100. I think a year ago he came in at number 51 on the NFL top 100 players and they went and talked about.


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[Assistant] How this dude is just, he's just, he plays violent, he plays fast, he plays aggressive, and the fact that he's sitting there saying, he told himself like, look, I'm trying to be Defensive Player of the Year.


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[Assistant] I mean, like, when you go back and watch this man's tape and what he was doing, go back to, go back just a couple years ago, uhm, at Green Bay when he had a little bit of a coming out party.


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[Assistant] 20, 19, 13 and a half sacks. 20, 20, 12 and a half sacks, right? Uhm, you look at it,


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[Assistant] And you still think about it, he almost had, when you talk about 45 solo tackles, uh, in, uh, for a total of 55 tackles when you combine his total and his, uh, in his regular tackles. The crazy part about this is he, he missed all of 2021.


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[Assistant] He's 30. I think he's 30. 30 plus is in like 6 months, I think. So I think during the season he'll be 31. I had a buddy tell me once, backs don't get better. No they don't. Trust me. I don't know. I don't know how true that is. Listen, I'll tell you, I had a couple of them surgeries. They do not get better.


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[Assistant] And when it comes to bending and being a, he plays so violently, uhm, it puts him in that position. I was talking to Matthew Coller, he covers the Minnesota Vikings, and he said, uh, during the first part of the season, he was the NFL defensive player of the month.


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[Assistant] And he was unblockable for the first half of the season. Last year? Last year. Tweet-o-mo. Uh, Zedariah Smith. Oh, okay. And so what happened was he had nine, almost, excuse me, eight and a half or nine of those sacks within the first half of the year. Oh, really? Production fell off at the second part of the year. Didn't fall off.


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[Assistant] Okay, that makes sense. And so when people say, oh, well, he's coming in and starting.


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[Assistant] That might not necessarily be true. Like, Obbo might be the guy who's gonna start off, but for what they got him for, for what they did and what they lost, this is a home run because once again, they're hedging their bets everywhere, right? Young free agents, uh, uh, signing trades


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[Assistant] All of them ended the season either injured or injured reserve. Uhm, Sione Takitaki, he got injured. It may be a little bit before we see him. Uh, Anthony Walker also has the quiet injury or, you know, I don't know how far along he is. Uhm, you know, you had Phillips and as well as J.O.K.


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[Assistant] Do you expect those guys to be fully ready to go, uhm, during training camp day one, or is there a couple guys that they'll bring along a little slower?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, uhm, what I was saying a little bit earlier, uhm, is now with this collection of talent, for the first time,


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[Assistant] Uhm, in a long time, I look at the Browns as a team that has enough talent to compete with anybody. It just happens to be from week to week, whether or not you're going to make enough plays or the way it goes. But I don't look at the schedule and cross anybody out in terms of saying, oh, we can't beat that team. This is going to be an uphill battle. I look at the talent level on paper. Where does this roster rank?


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[Assistant] For you, uhm, and I would say in the new era since, you know, you know, the team has come back. Where do you think this talent as constituted? Where is it at in the ranking orders for you?


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[Assistant] Because you've seen a bunch of teams from the Odell, the Jarvis, all of the Baker teams. So you will be able to know based on what we see on paper.


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[Assistant] See, this is the great thing about it. They can, they, they, when you make moves, you can get rid of knee-jerk reaction. Cause if I say the Browns can win the game, is that a knee-jerk reaction? No, it's just, I mean, that's a fact.


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[Assistant] It's now back where Jay said it. It's back, when all these, all these little things happen, and you always start at the, back at one, right? I said, who sang that song? That was Brian McKnight. Start back at one. Stop going to prom on them songs by the way too, man. They play that at every prom.


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[Assistant] But, but I will say it's now back to what Jay said a couple years ago. Now there's no excuses, right?


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[Assistant] You got the pieces, you got the parts, you got the receivers, you got the defense. Now...


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[Assistant] You gonna see if they got. Do we have the right leader? It's the quarterback. Everything is set up for you, big dog. Every A4.


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[Assistant] Think about it. We've got 1.6. We almost, we've at points during the chat. Shout out to the chat, by the way. Y'all be killing it. Uhm, on a big, on a big Browns, on a big Browns day, we've almost eclipsed 2000. So 2000 people in here at once. So shout out to you guys for showing up on a Browns React Day. But, but,


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[Assistant] That means we should have 1,600 likes!


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[Assistant] I can, bad tech, G Bush, you gotta say bad job out of the angels for taking out a right


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[Assistant] The whole outlook on the season, the whole outlook on the game changes when you can get some power. Like, just look at the feeling you got, right? And it's so crazy, um, Naylor became the first player in the expansion era since 61.


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[Assistant] Uh, to, to, uh, hit a go-ahead home run, an eighth inning or later, three straight games.


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[Assistant] And the crazy part about it is I was, I was surprised and pleasantly surprised that he bounced back.


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[Assistant] From a bad start, because the thought process was that we don't want to bring them up here, get them up here and get the confidence shaking because they get knocked around, lose control and then all of a sudden they get back in, but he bounced back with that performance. I'm saying,


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[Assistant] He's the, he's the real deal. So, like you said, if you throw him in the four slot, uhm, and you get a little bit healthier, and Ohtani's gonna give you a bat on top of it, I don't, but the Guardians ain't gonna do it though. Nope. No.


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[Assistant] You know, in America we have a, we have a gun problem.


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[Assistant] It's not, it's not the, the uhm, the law by the citizens who have the guns.


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[Assistant] Most law-abiding citizens, uhm, as we speak, when I talk about gun safety and gun control and all those different things, I'm talking about the people that are doing this. See, they're usually the guys that are, are really, are really, you know, hunters or do things, you know, they don't, they're not out here flashing guns.


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[Assistant] Right? They're not, you don't see peep, there's some people like Earl said, there are people here who, who have a concealed carry.


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[Assistant] And you never knew they would have had to pull it. They had to do nothing or responsible adults who have safety boxes that the gun is put up in proper spaces. They go through all the protocols. We're not talking to them. And I think sometimes that gets that gets conflated.


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[Assistant] But what we are talking about is there's a segment of our population and it's just not just John Moran. It goes to all different walks of life. You know, there's a couple years ago there were people that were posing family pictures with AR-15.


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[Assistant] Like with the whole family, kids, you know, these are prominent people. These are, these are officials that we put in office. There's rappers that every time they in a video, they, they in a video and they flashing the guns, whether it's a toy gun or whether it's a real one or not.


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[Assistant] It's people flashing, putting a gun with all the money on the table. Like, we have a problem in this country with the glorification


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[Assistant] of these firearms. We are putting these firearms above everything. We're putting it above kid safety. We're putting it above education. We're putting it above working a regular job. It don't even matter now.


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[Assistant] At what point in time do we have to look at ourselves as Americans and look around the country and look around the world and say, we're the only developed society and culture that deals, that does this. You go to Japan, you, you, you, you go to Australia, you go to the, they don't have these people on Instagram doing pointing guns. And at the end of the day, I understand that everybody has a right


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[Assistant] Through the second amendment to own a gun responsibly. But at some point we gotta figure out.


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[Assistant] Where do we stop putting the emphasis on the weapon and get back to where we started talking about putting the emphasis on people? And John Moran is a prime example of


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[Assistant] This stuff has been put into us at a young age where we feel like it's necessary that I have to show that and do that for me to be cool, for me to be a person of influence. It's crazy. It just don't make sense. I don't, I don't understand it. Just don't get it. I want to hear from you too.


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[Assistant] But in a way, you got, in a way, as we sit here, right, as we sit here and we talk about it, in a way we, we tell it, we, we are as a society, we tell them that is, that is what they should be doing. If you look at the biggest stars in our- What do you mean by that? If you listen to the biggest stars in our culture, right,


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[Assistant] You look, we talked about earlier, rappers in correlation. We, we made martyrs, two pockets of martyr.


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[Assistant] When we grow up and we see the people that are revered, we see the people that are, are, we, it's the Tupacs, it's the Biggies, it's the, it's the guys that was in the street life. You, you, I could go to Young Dolph, I could go to, I could go to, uh, uh, the Migos.


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[Assistant] And guess what? They still do things that bring them back like shoot dice at parties. Why would you shoot dice at a party? And why don't you have security? All of these things, and it's almost as if...


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[Assistant] Where, we, we don't, we don't grow up and say, oh man, look at that Dennis right there. Look at this black Dennis. I love, look at this black lawyer. Look at this black, look right here, look. Hey, you can do something else.


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[Assistant] Once you get- I'm 41. How old is you? 29. How old is you?


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[Assistant] When you get, when you get to a certain age, you start thinking different. If you, if you lucky enough to make. That's true. Then you can wake up. But there are times, yes, you do feel bad when you 18 and you get off, you, you in college and then you, they say you going to the, you going back to the crib.


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[Assistant] How difficult was it when you was 18, 19 years old to be able to say, had a maturity level to say, I'm not going to do that, right? And especially if you don't have, like you said, no guidance from the OG saying, bro, you got a, you got a career, you got a path, don't even go there, bro. We, I know what it is. You ain't lost nothing. You still down. You a leader.


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[Assistant] You're supposed to come back and help us get different people together. But that's hard for you to see when you're 18.


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[Assistant] And you gotta be able to live long enough to get to a point where you can start to let some of this soak in. And that's the dangerous part about it. The dude is, you know, how many people get killed right before? I just, I always say, man, I'd be tired of just seeing all the famous black people dying.


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[Assistant] Because it don't give you no, no hope. You say, listen, if these people, if Michael Jackson died at 50, Prince died at 50, all the singers and all the basketball players and all of the rappers, they all die.


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[Assistant] If you're a father, his father, he got a father. A good one. His father gotta stop being a fan.


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[Assistant] But when they hit you with the, they're giving the Rico out. Like you can't just hang, hang out with people. And now you getting, you, they could, they can look at him and say, John Moran, you got enough money to be a head of a crime syndicate.


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[Assistant] He just, he don't even get it, bro. Like, you bringing that, I always say, never bring energy. Energy brings that. Even when the people argue with me on Twitter, they'll call you and they'll hit you in your DM or whatever.


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[Assistant] And they'll say crazy stuff to you, right? And I'll be like, amen.


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[Assistant] When you put that vibe out and when you got a gun and you're moving it around and you talk a certain way, that attracts a certain level of energy.


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[Assistant] Cause now somebody wanna come find you and see if you really about what you say you about. Yeaah. They already know you rich. Bruh, you got family members? Google is out here. I don't ever wanna put my family in a position or my friends in a position where they might have to get the repercussions of how I'm moving. So...


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[Assistant] It's just, it's, you, you already, he's supposed to have a security team around him. He ain't even supposed to be out like that to be truthful because nowadays- He's a mark now. You are a target anyway. Like you in the, in the communities. And by the way, Lil Boozy says this, shout out to him. He said, man, most famous people end up dying in the same hood that they was in. That's a fact.


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[Assistant] Out in the suburbs where they got a house or they living in them. No. They die. Coming back. Coming back in the same community because they looking at you like you, you, I feel you playing around with me now, Jah.


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[Assistant] You know what? Cause you, you, you're a nice looking dude. All the girls like you. I might've been a man back in high school. I work, I don't even work. I'm on unemployment. I'm looking, I'm living terrible. I'm living check to check. And I feel like you coming back is, is, is thumbing your nose at me. You trying to play me. You laughing at us.


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[Assistant] They came close to actually making an offer to and they were working on a contract structure when the Zadarius thing kind of came back to life on Tuesday or Wednesday. But I think the excitement is warranted. It needs to be tempered just a little tiny bit because of some of the things that I heard you guys talking about right before I came on.


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[Assistant] On, uhm, on Saturday, yeaah, I wrote a column on Saturday about, you know, what does this trade mean for Miles Garrett and Oboe?


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, I kind of really went in into depth about how Jim Schwartz will use all these guys and use his rushers. And it really doesn't take a lot of reps away from, from oboe at all.


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[Assistant] He looks at the pass rush group globally and now he's got three top rushers that he can divide up about 130 reps among.


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[Assistant] And then if you mix Dalvin Tomlinson in there into that rush group, you know, then you're dividing it up four ways, but you're going to roll these guys in, you're going to keep them fresh. And one way or another, they were going to go out and get another veteran edge.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, the, the on Jim Schwartz's defense line. So they have put th put all of their resourc hoping that their lineba because if they do come ba


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, and spend, you know, big, huge bucks on linebackers. So, you know, maybe they'll add another one here or there, uh, but I don't think you'll see them give up, you know, some big name veteran player that they currently have on the team to bring in another linebacker. I think they feel pretty set providing those guys come back healthy.


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[Assistant] I think there are a couple of guys that they will bring along slowly during


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[Assistant] you know, J. O. K. Is co of a mid foot sprain and that, you know, that's something to, you know, to have to grapple with as well. So I think these guys will take it easy during training camp. I think to a certain extent, they'll take it easy in the preseason games.


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[Assistant] Uh, but the method to the madness there is to get them to the season healthy and I think most of them should be about ready to start the season


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, he's, you know, he's in shape, he's physical, he's big, he's muscular and you know, he's going to be that, you know, go, go down high point the ball and then win that contested catch type of guy.


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[Assistant] And you know you can see out there that the moment is not going to be too big for him.


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[Assistant] You know, then I watched him on the second day that we were a lot out there on Saturday and he, uhm, you know, he pulled himself together.


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[Assistant] And, you know, he should not have been as, as tuckered out on the first date as he was because, I mean, this is not a grueling practice by any stretch of the imagination. Now it was hot.


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[Assistant] And so I think he was affected by the heat and that's something they're going to have to watch and something they'll have to, you know, kind of keep an eye on down in at the, at the Greenbrier for the first 10 days of camp. He's going to have to be ready to go for that because it's going to be hot down there.


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[Assistant] Uh, but he pulled it back man. I mean, he's just a good coaching from Bill him get better over the s I watched him try really h and soul into it. Uh, so going to be, he's going


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[Assistant] Uh, then they will give I mean a, uh, you know, a Robinson, you know, why could be cool. He's rea Deshawn Watson. I wrote a when they drafted him, th really, really close and d


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[Assistant] they've worked out with qu years together and now you good friend in Dorian Th think it's going to be a r comradery, where he has fr laughter, where he has pe


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[Assistant] So I like what they're doing in the QB room.


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[Assistant] Uh, there are safeties i to be able to play in the s of those concerns that Gre just having to be in the time, I don't think it's g I think that Jim Schwartz


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, once again, Cam looked, looked good. He looked, he looked the part, you know, he's got the, uh, you know, the physical tools and you can see that you can see guys that, uh, you know, if they make a mistake in a rep, then, you know, they can come back and correct it. And he was able to take the coaching really well. He was into it. He looked to be in good shape.


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[Assistant] We're only out there for two of the three days. And so I was really focusing in on a lot of Dorian, a lot of Cedric, a lot of Dewan, some Cam, Seaki. So I can't honestly say that I watched, you know, the, the Buckeye undrafted rookies all that much.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, the first thing, uh, that I thought about Siaki Ika was that, you know, he just didn't look


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[Assistant] Uh, that when he showed up, he would look like, you know, a little bit soft around the middle and a little bit bigger than what you would want to see. And I didn't see that the way that I thought I would. I was pretty impressed. I think he's already really started to watch what he's eating.


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[Assistant] So that's really, really good. As far as the defensive line room in general is concerned, it's a lot of guys that are going to have to get to know each other and they're going to have to see how everything works out from a chemistry standpoint. Remember,


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[Assistant] Let the whole Miles Garrett show get to him. It got to him. Jadavian is a former number one overall pick.


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[Assistant] He doesn't want to, he didn't want to be anyone's Robin to Miles' Batman. And, uh, you know, we're going to have to see how Zidarius and Miles mesh together. But if they can get that right, I think those guys are going to be really a fearsome duo.


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[Assistant] You know, I would say top to bottom because they have the quarterback now. Any other time that they had Jarvis and Odell and Miles and all those great names together.


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[Assistant] Amari Cooper is one of the best receivers that I've covered here. Uh, then you add in obviously Elijah Moore. Now you add in Cedric Tillman. You've got Marquis Goodwin. Uh, you've got David Njoku who's still


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[Assistant] Uh, getting better and co curve and doing a really his potential is very gre this has got to be the best


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[Assistant] And now it just all has to come together. Because like you said, when you have it on paper,


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[Assistant] That's great. It's wonderful to have all the talent on paper. But we've seen many teams before, uh, that have plenty of talent on paper. It has to come together. It has to come together through coaching, through scheme,


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[Assistant] through injuries, you kn sometimes strength of scho of schedule is a huge fact about right in the middle


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[Assistant] not by last year's record get thrown out the window like Aaron Rogers coming your schedule. But if you win totals for uh, you k which is what like more a outsiders uses. They're a pack in terms of strength


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[Assistant] Uh, so I think they have everything it takes to get it done.


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[Assistant] Uh, and to contend for a playoff spot and more, but, uh, but it has to come together out there on the grass.


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[Assistant] Oh gosh, the one, uh, on the left hand side, the bottom, it was sort of...


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[Assistant] But it didn't have too much going on. So it was sort of simple, which keeps in line with, you know, the, the Brown's theme for these sorts of things. Um, but yet I still thought it had a little bit of nastiness. Earl, do you have that graphic with the five choices?


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[Assistant] I did not notice that, but perhaps if the other one, uh, wins, they can stick a little clea- a little clea in there somewhere.


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[Assistant] Well, it's not just Jim Schwartz because they've overhauled the offense too. It's gotta be Kevin.


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[Assistant] uh, you know, have been t when you look at Lamar Ja offensive coordinator in our old friend Todd Monk going to be different over going to be going out and p they left off either. But are and then the Steelers w what they did last. The


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[Assistant] Well, the one thing that I've seen about Deshaun from the minute he showed up on the doorstep last year, I would watch him, you know, after practice, even in training camp, uh, go down to the, you know, to the far goalposts and just


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[Assistant] And all these guys really, really working hard on their, on their chemistry with Jacoby, and they had to run a game plan that was suited to his skill set. Well, Deshawn's a completely different quarterback.


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[Assistant] So, you know, he just didn't have the time to kinda get it together with his guys. And then you saw young guys that really...


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[Assistant] weren't necessarily ready that Deshaun offers on th are things that are going


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[Assistant] in the off season and pre how to run those site aj how to stay alive and rele script and off schedule. A that I've been saying ov again, he's gonna have to that you just have that wh


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, so I think, you know, that's gonna go pretty well.


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[Assistant] I think Kevin will have plenty of time, uh, you know, to focus on getting this right and I think Deshaun Watson will have a ton of input in how things go.


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[Assistant] And he doesn't have any limitations. Deshaun doesn't have any limitations, so.


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[Assistant] You know, it's not like Kevin has to worry about, you know, oh, can we, you know, can we throw the long ball or can we throw on the run or can we run the no huddle or the RPO or whatever the case may be, uh, he can do anything. It's an open book and those guys just have to work together to make it pop.


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[Assistant] Fair enough. The logic is sound. It is good. It is really good. If you haven't tried Popeye's, go check it out. And in the meantime...


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[Assistant] We'll see you Jollies soon. See you guys later. Bye! Jollies. Jollies. Put my name in there.


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[Assistant] He's identifying Jews as a threat to our people. What he means there is white people.


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[Assistant] And this kind of vigilante and revolutionary white power violence. So if you look for instance at the surges in Ku Klux Klan membership, they align more consistently with the return of veterans from combat and the aftermath of war than they do with anti-immigration, populism, economic hardship, or any of the other factors that historians have typically used to explain them.


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[Assistant] Nationalist fervor, populist movements, those are all worst predictors in the aftermath of war. Post-war periods.


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[Assistant] It's important to remember too that returning veterans that join this movement and active duty troops, we're talking about a tiny, not even statistically significant percentage of veterans. But within this movement, those people who did serve are playing an enormously important role.


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[Assistant] Leaderless resistance is basically what we would understand today as cell-style terrorism. The idea that you can recruit a small number of committed activists


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[Assistant] If we think, for instance, about the Oklahoma City bombing, Timothy McVeigh is sort of the ideal soldier of leaderless resistance. He's in an infantry unit and serves in the Gulf and is involved in white power groups while he's on post.


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[Assistant] He's consistently involved in this movement right up to the moment of the Oklahoma City bombing. We know that this is part of the white power movement and an act of leaderless resistance. But we have this memory of that as an act of one person.


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[Assistant] And as a result, I think we've never really delivered a decisive stop to this activism.


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[Assistant] The military response to white power activism, like the court response to white power activism and the police response to white power activism, reflects the many ways that our society has not been prepared to deal with this kind of a movement.


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[Assistant] His last post, uhm, expressed that he was going to go in shooting and it's an anti-Semitic rant, uhm, but it also repeats twice the phrase, our people, that he needs to protect our people, that he's identifying Jews as a threat to our people, that what he means there is white people.


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[Assistant] And then through the rest of the account, there's a whole bunch of other markers of white power ideology.


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[Assistant] All of that content is deeply, deeply disturbing, but is historic. We have a history.


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[Assistant] What appears to be a lone gunman, but someone who is motivated and propelled by a worldview and by a social network of like-minded people who


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[Assistant] Push and enable violence. This movement has been using these structures for decades.


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[Assistant] I've really messed up. I've really messed up. I said, what's, what's the matter buddy? What's going on?


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[Assistant] The two guys, the two that were staying or whatever, they're, they're dead.


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[Assistant] I, I shot him. I, I, they, they upset me and I shot him.


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[Assistant] I tried to hold it together and I said put the gun down or any weapon down and go turn yourself in. Right now. Right now.


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[Assistant] All I was hearing, I'm sorry, I'm sorry dad, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.


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[Assistant] So is this Junior Rodsey? What is, what is? Yeah, that's ROTC. In high school. He was really interested in the military. That's what he said.


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[Assistant] There were two other brothers and another, uh, member of that ROTC.


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[Assistant] That were obviously into the neo-Nazi stuff.


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[Assistant] He said that he would not, when he figured out what Brandon was gonna do, he couldn't live with himself. That's all he's ever said to me.


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[Assistant] Frontside is unique. We're a 550 acre firearm training facility about 40 minutes outside of Las Vegas. We have 50 ranges.


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[Assistant] I believe initially we were contacted by you folks, and you asked some questions. And as a response to that, we investigated with our law enforcement contacts, and that was enough to convince us that they needed, uh, to not be coming to front site any further.


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[Assistant] Thanks for watching and remember, every time you click the subscribe button, one of your enemies gets destroyed.


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[Assistant] Well, let me tell you, I am a believer in our nation's military. I have very close relatives who serve, including active duty.


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[Assistant] To think that, uh, somebody who does not support the true goals of the US military.


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[Assistant] Which is to protect Americans and actually wants to use that training to hurt Americans is revolting to me. And I hope that, uh, that people in the military


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[Assistant] Where do you think you're gonna go? I have nowhere to go. I'm going to a hotel.


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[Assistant] I didn't want to be here. I don't have horrible credit. You know what I'm saying? But it's just hard. It's just hard.


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[Assistant] Uh, you have a chance to kind of let everything sink in and you see all the hall of fame busts that he's done that are up on the wall. It's like, wow, this is really gonna be real here pretty soon.


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[Assistant] Ben Hammond's the name of the sculptor and he sent me, uh, a video of where he is with the sculpture and he wanted some feedback. And my wife was like, well, this looks like you, but I don't know if it really looks like you because this kind of looks like in between Fat Joe and Skinny Joe. And my daughter says,


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[Assistant] We had like 11 years of pictures of me going back to my rookie year and when I was like totally bald with no beard and like a little pudgy and then like five years later I was like really pudgy with no hair on my face and a little bit of hair on my head and then right towards the end of my career.


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[Assistant] Question, there's two, I think, so Alan Amici, uh, from way back, like in the 50s, uh, I don't think Crazy Legs is in the Hall of Fame, so I think it's Alan Amici and, uh, Mike Webster. Great center from Wisconsin, then played for the Steelers for all those years. So there's two guys.


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[Assistant] A lot more than that until I was actually announced and I did some of the radio shows in Madison and they said, yeah.


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[Assistant] You're the only, the third hall of famer from Wisconsin of all time. And that kind of blew me away. And obviously with JJ watt recently retiring, he'll be a first ballot guy, Russell Wilson getting towards the end of his career. I think he's got a great case for the hall of fame. So I think we're going to double those numbers pretty soon, but still.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it was definitely a pinch me moment and I've had a lot of those since I've been, uh, officially named to be in this hall of fame class.


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[Assistant] So we've got the first draft done, now it's just all about workshopping cause like, like you guys remember when you were writing a paper for school, the hardest is just putting it on paper, getting it down and then workshopping it and kind of tweaking things is, that's the easy part. The good news is the hall of fame does a good job of kind of limiting the length so guys aren't droning on and on so you don't need to come up with


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[Assistant] 20 minutes of thrilling epic content. You only need five or seven minutes, which that's no problem.


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[Assistant] Depends on the day. Uh, recently, you know, the weird thing is it's been my right hip. Uhm, I did the NFL draft pre show on Thursday and Friday and then I flew to Salt Lake City and I sat for nine hours in a stool. So it was like, you guys know when you do those, those, uh,


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[Assistant] It was like four planes and I slept like an hour in the airport and I got back and I had a backspas. I couldn't stand up straight. It looked like a letter C.


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[Assistant] hip a lot more. And so you're in a little bit of a deeper bend and I think you get more grinding there. Uhm, and I'm hoping it goes away soon because I don't want to have to go back under the knife to get that thing fixed.


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[Assistant] Opportunity to get out on the track and it'll be our last because it's the only one scheduled before the, uh, the state meet. So if any of my shot put discus people qualify, uh, then I'll, I'll feel a lot better about my A plus grade.


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[Assistant] Um, but she's loved track and it's great. She doesn't do the throws with me. I'm the shot and disc coach. So I help out with some of the other kids, but I get to be around the team and I think that's fun. And that's kind of like that line. You try to walk with your kids when you are coaching them. You don't want to be dad coaching. You just want to be a coach.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and so it's actually been good that I'm not actually coaching her events, but I can still kind of be part of it. Uhm, and it's just fun watching those kids get out and have the same joy that you had when you were a kid. So you kind of relive in that through their eyes.


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[Assistant] I want to hear more about the Sculptor. What on earth are you doing for 8 hours? Are you using pictures?


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[Assistant] No, he's actually like staring at you and posing. You're posing for him. Uhm, it is a little bit interesting. I mean, the nice thing is you don't have to sit there still. You can get up and move around.


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[Assistant] I think he said that it's a lot easier to do it from a live person than it is doing it off of pictures even for whatever reason, you know, when you're there in 3D and you're moving around and he's seeing how you move your face. I think that's the big thing. Like when you do different facial expressions, they want to see how the other


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[Assistant] parts of your body move. Uh, I haven't done any portrait sculpting lately, but if I was to, I feel very well prepared after sitting with Ben Hammond for nine hours. You're not liking a toga or anything, are you?


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[Assistant] I don't know if I can share this, but he did Calvin Johnson and we all know Megatron was like yoked like Mr. Model and he said, Hey, I asked Calvin it was okay if I did like a nude sculpting of him and hopefully that wasn't taken the wrong way. I think we all understand that it's not like a freaky thing, but like he has like,


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[Assistant] The guy that did, is doing mind ban and then uhm, the other sculptor are like world renowned, some of the best portrait sculptors in the world and you can see, I mean,


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[Assistant] So what I remember about the Dogpound is just that loyal, passionate fan base in the end zone. They always had cool signs. They always were like the first ones there, the last ones to leave.


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[Assistant] What the dog pound used to be in the, you know, the municipal stadium days in the, in the eighties and nineties, man. Maybe you guys have some fun memories that you'd love to share with me because I love hearing those old stories about like the guys bringing in the dog house that had the keg inside and you know, four guys brought it in, one guy brought it out, that type of stuff.


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[Assistant] I really enjoy doing it because it gives me a reason to study the way I did when I was a player and to follow everybody in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, you know, you get some of the same rush doing live TV as you did when you were a player. But obviously the pressure is different. You know, if I screw up on live TV, my boss might say something or people might laugh at me on Twitter.


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[Assistant] I should have given you a better birthday present five years ago, but oh well.


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[Assistant] Well, uh, I mean, I've been expecting consistent greatness from him for a while now because I've seen it, uh, in stretches, like in practice, in games. He's had very nice stretches and then it's that inconsistency. I think it's that lack of consistent focus.


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[Assistant] That has really hurt his career more than anything because there's been really good stretches of play.


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[Assistant] Especially in the era of social media, like all it takes is you screwing up three or four times or looking lost on the field three or four times in a game and people put it together in a cut up. And then that becomes the narrative of how you've been playing or even your career, uh, fair or unfair. And so I think for him, I really hope that seeing that he's really in a turning point in his career, knowing that, Hey,


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[Assistant] They just picked up my fifth year option, but they kind of pushed it down and delayed it a little while before they did it to kind of send a little bit of a message. And he's got to know that if he plays well this year and he shows that he can have that consistent focus that we hope that he can because he's got the talent. He's got the technique. He's got everything you need. Just put it together.


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[Assistant] I expect that this is gonna be his breakout season.


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[Assistant] Uh, because I think that that can be really motivating for guys when they realize that, oh wow, I don't have four or five years left on my contract. Like this is it. Like it's make or break time now. This is how I'm going to be remembered going into free agency, whether it be here or somewhere else.


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[Assistant] And then all of a sudden they figure it out and it all clicks and he's not that far off. Like, like I said, it's just having that consistent focus, understanding that every play is really important. Like I mentioned earlier, like the dudes behind you, they're counting on you and you can't have one playoff.


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[Assistant] Uhm, those guys are hard to find. They're not your everyday offensive lineman. I mean, I can think of a couple guys in the history of the game that have looked like that. Jonathan Ogden being one of them. Mackay Beckton, top five pick from a few years ago who's battled some injuries.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but I think especially where they got him in the draft, talk about a high reward potential with a low risk because you're looking at those stats right now, 41 games. So he's got some experience now. He's a little bit rough technically.


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[Assistant] But that's what Bill Callahan is for, because when you watch him, when you watch him run, when you watch him move.


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[Assistant] Laterally, vertically, like he's got all the skills that you need. It's, it's just a mound of clay right now and it'll be up to those coaches to be able to kind of form that into a great offensive lineman, a great offensive tackle.


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[Assistant] Uh, if he's got the desire, I believe that he can be a great offensive lineman because he's got that skill set.


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[Assistant] Um, and he can move, he can get off the ball, which to me, the biggest question mark I always have with big guys like that at offensive tackle is can you get off the ball on your pass set in your first kick?


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[Assistant] Cause that's where those guys get beat. You see Miles Garrett blowing past those guys on their first kick and then they're out of balance and they're trying to catch up. And, and if you're playing catch up in your past set, you'll never get there and you'll always be at a disadvantage. And that defensive lineman is going to do whatever he wants to you in that case. So.


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[Assistant] A man that's as quick as he is can get his body is 370 pounds from zero to 60, essentially as fast as a Maserati. He's gotten what it takes. Like that is the biggest question and he's got that now. Can you refine his technique? Can he be consistent? Those are the question marks that I have, but it'll be fun to watch.


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[Assistant] I like that. So, uh, Sean Rogers, first of all, would be, there's no way that anybody would be able to beat him in a sumo contest because


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[Assistant] 16 pound shot put, he was, you know, a 32, 33 inch vertical at that weight. And when he was ready to go and when he wanted to turn it on, he was literally unblockable. I mean, he made Alex Mack look like an undrafted free agent going against each other. And he made Alex Mack look like he was 220 pounds and Alex 320.


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[Assistant] Ted Washington, if you're listening back home, wherever you are right now. Um, so those, those are my first two picks. Okay. And then I would say Alex Mack, he was a, you know, big time heavyweight wrestler at, uh, in California growing up. So he would probably be the, that next tier of, of guys.


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[Assistant] Mcnuggets? Yeah, ask him how he got the nickname. For a guy like Mikey Mcnuggets.


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[Assistant] I would eat mapo tofu at home, but then at school I'd have tater tots at the cafeteria. You know, so it's like, just like this mix of just Eastern, Western flavors and just growing up in America, but also being, eating a lot of just like our food at home too, so.


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[Assistant] I don't know if this was inspired at all by the fish filet. So actually in Japan, they actually have an ebi burger, which is like a shrimp katsu filet, and that was part of the inspiration too. Shrimp had to exist, but it's not that common in America. But honey walnut shrimp? Never heard of that before. We threw the nuts and the honey on there.


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[Assistant] Honestly, it really just comes from, I, I just love our food and just the food that we make and the inspiration from like our culture too. Like if I was going to open up a business, like I wanted to do this and so. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I'm so glad. My co-founder Eric too is a big reason why a lot of these exist, so. I have one more surprise for you guys.


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[Assistant] Alright guys, so typically at, you know, after like a big Chinese dinner, there's some dessert, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we have this black sesame milk here. We call it the hei sesame milk because hei is a play on word for black in Chinese. Hei zi. Nice. Exactly. Hei zi ma. This is a black sesame honey puree.


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[Assistant] I'm not going to repeat what they were saying, but they were talking about how the tax credit deal would have to have Section 8, because that's what they really were afraid of.


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[Assistant] Our case was about the fact that tax credit properties were only going into low income minority areas in the city of Dallas, and we were looking to get tax credit housing into some higher opportunity areas as well, which were predominantly wider areas.


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[Assistant] I think you were ahead of your time.


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[Assistant] This era of the Cavs and this year's version, there were a lot of comparisons to this team and your team.


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[Assistant] In terms of like, good guys that are just quiet, they're not loud, they're not out there, it's not ego driven, they're just good guys who play well together. But there also came a label of soft, and your teams were always labeled as soft. I'm just wondering if you ever took offense to that, if that ever bothered you.


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[Assistant] Around 25% last year down to around 21, 22% this year. I know it's something he keeps working on and kind of to what G was asking you, what's realistic for him? You know, I don't think he's going to go from 22 to 35% in one summer, but what do you think is a realistic jump that someone in his position could make?


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[Assistant] How do you just, how do you feel about the way that the game has evolved to where it has, you mentioned a couple guys that still thrive in mid-game or mid-range, but most of it is threes and layups. And I'm just wondering as a point guard, and by the way, let's make sure people realize you were a 40% three-point shooter in your career. That's Ray Allen-like. That's better than James Harden career.


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[Assistant] Best of the best, a shooter before his time. But maybe you love it because you were a good three-point shooter. Just where are you at with today's era of NBA basketball and the emphasis on three-pointers or layups?


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[Assistant] What's your best story from those 80s, 90s Cavs team that we don't know?


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[Assistant] Before you get out of here, since we brought it up, we haven't really talked about it. Was that?


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[Assistant] Was the shot year the most heartbreaking for you or which team did you, there was a couple teams in there that boy, they were good enough to win a championship. And I know that was a first round series, but was that the hardest one or was there one that leaves a more bitter taste in your mouth than that one?


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[Assistant] My favorite player of those teams is a kid. He was by far my favorite player.


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[Assistant] And what better way to start a season than against a guy who's never coached a game before at the NFL level.


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[Assistant] So for my dream matchup, give me the Arizona Cardinals and John Gannon returning home to Cleveland.


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[Assistant] for his first game, you know, the nerves will be high, uh, calling his first game, Drew Petsing, the Cardinals offensive coordinator from Cleveland, or I'm sorry, not from Cleveland, but was with the Browns on staff last year coming back.


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[Assistant] And there's just a lot of kinks to be worked out when you're doing it for the first time and a lot of things you don't know until you go through it and experience it. So give me a first time coach, give me a rookie head coach with a team that is not that good.


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[Assistant] And bring them here into Cleveland. Make them come across the country.


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[Assistant] And rack up an easy, not easy, but rack up a week one win that hasn't been very common around these parts. The Browns typically up until last year and it took a last second, 106 yard field goal last year to win it at the buzzer. They don't have a lot of success in week one. So I think that's probably the best path to.


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[Assistant] Was, I'm trying to think if it was week 3 in 2019 when they went out to San Francisco and got absolutely cooked. Oh, that was 2019. It was the Charles Frederick Kitchens year and O'Dell was putting himself in the game on punt returns.


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[Assistant] That might be. What was the final score of that? Oh, I don't remember. It was bad. Like, tore their arms and legs off and beat them with them bad. Oh, it was like- Prison beating bad.


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[Assistant] I went with the divisional opponent Baltimore as my nightmare because Baltimore at home in September, I wrote it down, since 2008, they are 21 and 8, 21 and 5 at home in September. So for that reason alone,


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[Assistant] And we saw what happened a couple years ago when the Browns opened again. It was the COVID year. The Browns opened.


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[Assistant] Against Baltimore. I don't remember if that was home or away. It was away and they got smoked. And they got, Kevin's first game and they got, they did get smoked extra crispy.


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[Assistant] That was, they had that fake punt from their own 20 or whatever. To this day, I don't know what happened.


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[Assistant] No. No, it wasn't good. So I don't want any part of Baltimore, especially Lamar. Now that the contracts figured out, you know, they'll be motivated to go against his former team. I want no part of the Ravens on the road week one at home in a place in a month where they've dominated for the last 15 years.


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[Assistant] Well they have two west coast trips this year, the Rams and the Seahawks. They did ask the league to put them back to back. Kevin wants to take them out there and keep them out there. So in your scenario, it really is a nightmare if they get their wish granted because they would stay on the west coast and they'd go at Seattle, at LA, and then come home.


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[Assistant] They have in the past. The Patriots like to do that. The Patriots just last year had two West Coast games. They were San Francisco and I think the Cardinals? And they stayed out West in between. Bill likes doing that, likes keeping them out there.


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[Assistant] I don't know, and we'll see how much juice the Haslums have and Kevin Stefanski and Paul DiBattista and Andrew Berry have if the, if the league grants it or not. I know it's something they would like to do. They'd like to stay out west if at all possible.


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[Assistant] This is easy. Give me the easy start because I don't want to do a coaching search and I don't want to do coach firings and everything else. And we get a hard part, hard start to the season with a hard schedule to start the year.


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[Assistant] You've talked about the first six games, if that is the case.


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[Assistant] If it's two and four, I don't, I don't want to be around Berea. So give me a quick start. Give me some easy, easy games early. Let them get some confidence, get some confidence in their new schemes that they're running in the system.


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[Assistant] Let Deshaun and Kevin get some feel good vibes together calling this offense. I don't see anybody else get fired in Berea and figure this thing out and get off to a good start and then tackle it. Once you get a little bit of momentum, you get some confidence, then you can worry about the hard part of the schedule in the second half.


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[Assistant] So give me an easy start to the schedule, give me a couple of cupcakes, a couple of layups earlier, although if it's the Bengals, that's not a layup. At all. Like get a couple of those easy wins on the schedule early, chip and putt a little bit, get your rhythm, and then tackle the meat of it when everybody's safe and probably no one's getting fired mid-season at least.


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[Assistant] The road opponents are Denver, Houston, Indy, Rams, and Seattle. Those are the road.


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[Assistant] The Toronto Argonauts. Yup, Saskatchewan, Rough Riders. Is it Saskatchewan, the Rough Riders? What's Calgary? Boogie Boogie. Yeah, that's right.


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[Assistant] It's no, there's nothing for him to do. Like if you're running routes with receivers and backs, then what are the linemen, like are the linemen going to go through their protections and against, nope, like there's nothing. Listen, Deshaun Watson can take care of his linemen. Alright, they may not be part of this trip, but I promise you he's getting them gifts or he's getting them something.


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[Assistant] Uh, he'll take care of the guys who protect him. I don't think it's that big of a deal that they're not on this trip. There's nothing for him to do other than lay on the beach, which I'm sure the other guy enjoyed doing.


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[Assistant] No, it was, it's weird, quarterbacks hardly ever in the locker room when we're there except for the days that he talks and then they sort of whisk him in and whisk him out. So I've had a couple of opportunities just to say hi to him and make really quick small talk. But in terms of anything of actual substance, not yet. Hopefully this year.


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[Assistant] And, uh, that's who, that's, I came in, I started hanging around the Browns in 2018. So that's really been my only exposure as Baker and now Deshawn.


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[Assistant] But I, you know, I think you're going to see a lot of receivers on the field and you're going to see plays where Kevin and Deshaun are going to work together and draw up what Deshaun's comfortable with. And I think part of the reason that Cedric Tillman is here


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[Assistant] Is the fact that when plays break down, he can go win a jump ball. And that's what Deshaun likes to do is he likes to freelance a little bit. And if he gets flushed from the pocket, he's going to keep plays alive. And he's got a big target down the field now to just throw it up and let his guy go make a play. And I don't want to treat Toman like a first round pick. He's not. I don't want to treat him like.


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[Assistant] George Pickens, he's not, you know, he's got to prove it on the field first. But he, my only point is he's a big body who could be an emergency valve.


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[Assistant] In a situation to go make a play. And DPJ did that a little bit. There was times where I think it was also other opportunities for him that he didn't get it done. Uh, we see a speed threat now in Elijah Moore that they didn't have before. A guy who can really stretch the field.


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[Assistant] And again, someone to Sean can go make a play with. I think sometimes the Browns.


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[Assistant] Routes were very rigid and the receivers were very rigid. And when Deshaun tried to freelance a little bit.


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[Assistant] He didn't have cooperation on the back end. The guys didn't know quite what to do because the route said, I'm supposed to do this. So why is he over there? And hopefully they've diversified that a little bit more to where they can get a little bit more flexibility in the, in the play routes.


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[Assistant] Dave, you were at the Browns a handful of years. What is your best or worst memory of being in Cleveland during some pretty lean years?


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[Assistant] Well, you're talking to an Avon Lake alum, so you beat my guys for the conference title back in 97, right? Yeah, it might be the last time.


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[Assistant] It seemed to be the rule was for returners put your heels on the 10 yard line and don't back up and if it goes over your head let it go. That's not the case anymore. The guys are fielding punts at the 5, at the 3.


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[Assistant] Why did that change and, and how do you, how is it that you guys spin these balls to, so that you can down them like on impact? It's almost like a golfer hitting a flop shot. That thing just hits and sticks now. What kind of spin do you have to put on the ball in order to be able to do that?


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[Assistant] Do you hold it differently? Like this stuff fascinates me. It's this, I'm probably, my brain is just weird.


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[Assistant] But do you hold it differently? How do you get that, that flop to it?


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[Assistant] And one more for me, what happened to barefoot kickers? Why don't we have barefoot, I know you were a punter, but why don't, what happened to the barefoot kicker? Why aren't they a thing anymore?


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[Assistant] We would do it as kids, like, right? So you see them do it, so you run out, you take your shoe off, and you kick the ball, and instant tears in your eyes, it hurts so bad. I don't know how they did it.


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[Assistant] I don't know. It's, but it's getting to the point where we, we can stop saying it's early.


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[Assistant] Thank you for letting me out the dog house. Let's go. Well, no, I just think around Memorial Day started June is when


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[Assistant] You figure out who you are, you know, in terms of baseball.


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[Assistant] All through April, all through May, you can say it's early, there's plenty of time. And, and that may still be the case in the divisional race, even in June and July. No one's going to run away with this division. The Twins, I don't think the Twins are that good. The White Sox are an absolute disaster. The Tigers are improved, but they're not ready yet. And the Royals are quite a, quite a bit behind.


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[Assistant] So nobody's gonna run away from the Guardians and hide, but there comes a point where you just have to look and say, we are who we are.


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[Assistant] And to me, that's around June 1st. Once you get through Memorial Day weekend, that's when sometimes managers get fired. If you haven't turned it around by then, that's when guys go.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. Obviously that's not, but I mean, that's when you have enough of a sample size to know who you are. And if this team doesn't get this thing turned around the next couple of weeks and guys start picking it up, you know, I think that you can make the definitive statement of,


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[Assistant] of yeaah, this is just gonna be a down year and it happens in baseball. We're not at that point yet, but I'm just saying Memorial Day weekend is when you really, for me at least, start to figure out who you


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[Assistant] I think what makes this frustrating is the same thing that maybe should provide even still a little bit of hope and optimism. So if you want something to cling to.


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[Assistant] Last year they played 17 rookies. We made a big deal about it and how they all contributed. They all played well. You're, they're not really relying on those guys though. It's a little bit misleading to say like, you know, sophomore slump and stuff like that because okay, Steven Quan it applies to in terms of guys who they're asking to contribute who were rookies last year.


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[Assistant] And Arius now in right field, now that Oscar's down, Oscar didn't live up to what they needed him to. And Brennan, in that sort of right field hole, those three really comprise one.


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[Assistant] But aside from that, the guys who are struggling are guys who have been around or proven themselves or have a little bit more of a track record. It's, you know, Jose Ramirez isn't having the year that he did last year. He's not as terrible as some of these other guys we're talking about.


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[Assistant] Part of the issue with him is there's nobody on base for him. When it comes to the plate.


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[Assistant] But, Andres Jimenez has not lived up to the contract at this point. But, again, he was a seven-war player last year. That is an astronomical number.


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[Assistant] I don't think you go from a seven war player to forgetting how to put your shoes on. Ultimately, I still think that he will be okay. Naylor's been a huge disappointment. We mentioned Zanino and Bell is, is big disappointments, veteran signings that have not been good offensively. So it's not like it's this big sophomore slump rookie regression with these guys.


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[Assistant] It's the veterans, and I'll even count Jimenez as a veteran for this conversation. You got a hundred million dollar contract.


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[Assistant] And he, you know, he's had a couple years in the majors now. He played, had some time with the Mets, some time with the Guardians and figured things out, got the big contract. Now, now there's a lot of responsibility that comes with that. So it's not even just a matter of, of the young kids that we want to classify. It's these guys that they're counting on. And so,


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[Assistant] You know, Tito said multiple times he's gonna, he's gonna rely on track records when guys have track records. And so you just, you have to continue. What choice do you have? As Frank Kona said and Chris Antonetti echoed,


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[Assistant] There's nobody coming from AAA. Like Tyler Freeman came up, but there's, you know, George Valera possibly could have been possibly an option in right field, but he's another left-handed hitter and a lineup that's already full of lefties and he hasn't even started yet because he's coming back from a hand injury and hopefully he should be getting back to affiliated ball here soon. He's still rehabbing.


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[Assistant] But there's no, you know, like, we talk about this wave of pitching coming up and Tanner Bybee and Gavin Williams and Logan Allen and all these arms that are coming. Well, that's not necessarily the case on, on the offensive side. It's George Valera, maybe a little bit of Tyler Freeman and that's really it. Bo Nailer maybe. Bo Nailer. Nailer's having a good time.


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[Assistant] No, they're not unicorns. And certainly, you know, that's the hope, is that they develop bats along the way. They haven't done a great job, particularly the outfield. You know, this, the Manny Ramirez...


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[Assistant] Lindor was homegrown. He was a high pick. They did everything right with him. And then they couldn't sign him, so they flipped him and they brought in more guys who were young. And Jimenez ended up taking the contract Lindor wouldn't take, frankly. And now Jimenez is going to be locked up for a long time.


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[Assistant] Uh, but yeah, it's been one of the blind spots has been developing offensive minded guys and, but the miners are flush with hitters. So it's kind of double talk.


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[Assistant] But like you got like Brian Rokeo, one of their top prospects is a shortstop. I think Arias is ahead of him. Like, I get this feeling that a lot of fans sort of look at Gabriel Arias.


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[Assistant] As this utility type player, and Rokio's the shortstop of the future, I don't think that's accurate. I think Arias is gonna get the look before Rokio, but right now, Rosario's blocking that. And I, listen, if they fall out of it completely, that's probably gonna change, right? He's definitely gone. Rosario's gone. Definitely. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] But as long as they're lingering and hanging around, Rosario is going to be the shortstop on this team.


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[Assistant] So it's just where they're at in their development. There's no big bats coming this year. You know, Jakenzie Noel is another power hitter that they have in the minors, but I don't think he's ready to help this year.


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[Assistant] They've tried, I mean, Clint Frazier, Bradley Zimmer, these were first round picks, outfield prospects that were first round picks. They just didn't pan out. It happens in baseball all the time.


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[Assistant] Now, now in their favor, pitching is so much more expensive than hitting and it's such a premium and they've got that.


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[Assistant] And he wouldn't, he wouldn't like, and I said, you're not gonna go with the secret sauce. He's like, no, like it's the whole organization keeps it on lockdown. I don't know what they're doing. And we talked a little bit about like,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think we talked about it before the playoffs that I would have put them on my first team. I'd have bumped Luke at a second team.


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[Assistant] I, it's a, it's very much a regular season award and regular season results matter to me. So I thought Donovan, I know he didn't live up to the expectations in the, in the post season, but for the regular season, I thought he was fantastic. And I agreed with all the other picks, except I would have flip-flopped Luca and Donovan if I had a vote.


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[Assistant] I mean, Bull said it, Bull said, Luca first team, Donovan second team, so he got it right.


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[Assistant] Kevin Durant, like the fact that LeBron made 13 at 38 years old is remarkable.


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[Assistant] The, the rule, and everybody knew it was coming, it didn't matter, because you're, you're activating your bigs early, and you're getting him that elbow touch, and you're getting him involved, get him his first look,