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[Assistant] I'm just saying, you know what, because it is par for the course for people in the AFC North to just automatically dismiss the Browns. Automatically just, whatever, okay, it's going to be the Bengals, the Ravens, and the Steelers battling for the top spot in the division. And so my saying, you better watch out, it's sort of like you are underestimating them at your own peril.


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[Assistant] You are assuming that Deshaun Watson is washed. You are assuming that a year and a half is too long off or whatever it was, you know, that he's just not going to get there. You do that. You do that at your own risk. That's all I'm saying about this. And not that Linebacker is insignificant. Okay, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Adam.


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[Assistant] No, just that, not that that's insignificant, not that, uhm,


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[Assistant] I feel bad for him, I'm sorry about that. Uhm, but let's see, let's see, let's see what Andrew Barry does, because obviously, there's still time to make moves.


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[Assistant] Well I think the defense has multiple game breakers on it, right? T.J. Watt and Minka Fitzpatrick are both players that can affect a game.


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[Assistant] Completely. Alex Highsmith has a new contract and having TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith healthy and playing at those outside linebacker spots is a really big deal. That defense should once again shore up to being one of the top five defenses in the league. And so then you look at that offense.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't know, right? We still need to see. Look, first of all, I think that the last place team could be a 9 and 17. So to your point, it may not be a traditional last place team.


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[Assistant] I still have some questions about the Ravens defense. I need to learn more about that Ravens defense. J.K. Dobbins is only just now getting back on the field. Lamar Jackson can tell me that he's going to throw for 6,000 yards in this Todd Monkin offense and he loves all his shiny new toys at receiver, but let's see it.


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[Assistant] You know, I think that it's sort of like the hug with Roger Goodell.


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[Assistant] There were people that had very strong words about it. I think of Mike Freeman, who is an unbelievably respected journalist. He's a USA Today columnist and has been covering the league for, I don't know, 20, 30 years at this point. He had very strong words at how much the optics of that bothered him.


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[Assistant] He served his suspension. He's been in therapy for this long. Everybody's moving on.


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[Assistant] And so I think you have those polls. I think that there will be people in the national media that will want to hold their nose. And I think there are those that are just sort of passed it in on football. And again, Jason, I'll bring up the Ben Roethlisberger example.


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[Assistant] I mean, think about everything early in his career.


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[Assistant] It'll be a rare person, certainly in Cleveland, that's going to say Deshaun Watson, comma, who allegedly, or who was accused of, or who once served in 11 game suspension, comma. You'll just lose that. You'll lose that, a positive, or is that the right grammatical term? No, I know what you're saying.


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[Assistant] I asked, yeaah, I even asked, so when I was, uh, when I was at the game last week, I actually asked a member of the Brown's PR staff, you know, like, has it come up? Has last year come up? Has the therapy, has the remaining civil suit? And apparently no one's really asking about it. That it hasn't yet.


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[Assistant] Well, you know, if you look at yesterday's, uh, I mean, sorry, not yesterday's, last year's post-joint practices.


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[Assistant] Both head coaches treated the practices really as a game and you know what's funny is that we talked to Cedric Tillman earlier today.


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[Assistant] And this is obviously the first time that he's ever practiced against another team. He never did that at Tennessee. And he said it kind of felt like a preseason game. And that's just because of the competitiveness, the juice on the practice field. So.


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[Assistant] Thursday is really an opportunity to get to know some of these young guys, to get to know guys like Cameron Mitchell, to get to know Dorian Thompson even more, to get to watch Kellen Mond and see if this is a guy that should be sticking around on the practice squad in some capacity. This is getting to know younger players, again, like a Cedric Tilghman really, and getting a sense of them.


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[Assistant] Because you're going to need these guys. I'd also pay attention to special teams. Special teams is so notable because


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[Assistant] He played on special teams in the city of Cleveland. He brings all that energy. He brings that focus and import and hey, this really is one third of the game.


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[Assistant] It matters. Look, like we talked last week, I said I'm sorry for bringing up that Jets game, but if you think about that Jets game,


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[Assistant] If special teams had done a better job in making that PAT and then in recovering that onside kick, as much as we talk about, should Nick Chubb have fallen down before the goal line or did the secondary mess up the communication on the Corey Davis touchdown? Yeah, but special teams also could have made a kick and could have recovered that onside kick. So pay attention to that a little bit.


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[Assistant] You know what, right now it doesn't feel as if there's much worry. This is the nature of kicking, right? Like even if he makes everything Thursday night and makes everything next week in Kansas City, at some point he is going to miss a kick. I think it's really more about


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[Assistant] His process, which he has streamlined significantly from a year ago. He simplified it. He's relying on his leg and not overthinking so much that I need this kind of kick in this weather and this kind of kick in this temperature and this kind of kick in this building. And he's just kicking.


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[Assistant] All of that I think is good, but you know, Kevin Stefanski has a line, he says, confidence comes from demonstrated ability. And so at some point, Cade needs to make these kicks just for himself. He can be rebounding well, he can have the right attitude about it, he can have a good mindset.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'll tell you, I was watching him when he was going in last week. He was telling the punter.


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[Assistant] Nothing can touch you. You never really lose.


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[Assistant] Who are you? Looks like you've been here a while.


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[Assistant] I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're talking about. How could I rob my own future?


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[Assistant] Yeah, great idea, Faxter. Tamper with the evidence.


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[Assistant] When you're running away, you need a sanctuary. A place where nothing bad can touch you.


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[Assistant] Whoever he wants dead is lucky to still be alive. Now I know what I'm doing, and you can help me stop him. All you have to do is answer some questions.


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[Assistant] I was murdered tracking that son of a bitch to your place. So why would he be looking for you?


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[Assistant] I'm not asking people. I'm asking the witness whose life I just saved.


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[Assistant] You're not safe alone. You need someone watching over you.


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[Assistant] Us cops find missing people. I found you and I can help you find your mom. Your problem is now my problem too.


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[Assistant] Look, I might be able to help you. Is your mom's book from the Bell Killer case here?


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[Assistant] I know this place better than you. Who did your mom work with here? Who?


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[Assistant] Yeah, last time you got caught, Magellan. Stay low, or they'll see you.


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[Assistant] Fly? I'm a ghost, not a plane, alright? And look, you need me to tell you which office this is.


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[Assistant] Are you trying to get caught? You're about as stealthy as a tornado.


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[Assistant] You don't know that. Come on, we should move.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Just, just take it and figure it out later.


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[Assistant] The truths we're both searching for can only be answered by finding the killer. I need a pair of hands in the living world and you need a detective.


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[Assistant] It makes you miss the warmth of the police station, doesn't it? Your secret errand was to get a flashlight?


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[Assistant] Miles of banks both sides. Might as well be looking for a needle in a haystack of needles.


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[Assistant] Holy crap, maybe we can. That's that ghost that was watching me. Freaky girl wouldn't leave me alone.


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[Assistant] Again. And where does it say where she is?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Luxa Turner is a mental hospital.


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[Assistant] But what? Look, if we're gonna ask this girl Iris about this contract, the asking needs to be done by a living person, right?


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[Assistant] Or you can just go on. Totally alone in here.


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[Assistant] Her sister freed her when they were about to be scorched, but she couldn't return the favor.


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[Assistant] Fitting for an investigation about a serial killer. All these murders have whipped this town into a frenzy


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[Assistant] The bell killer is offing his victims as if they're witches. I'm heading upstairs to see what else I can find.


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[Assistant] I should have told you to follow me, then maybe you would have stayed at the church.


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[Assistant] Alright, found the killer's symbol. We got a suspect to look into. We're almost there.


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[Assistant] Even after you get numb to them, sometimes they still chill your bones. You can get that feeling that this time, they mean something personal.


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[Assistant] You came here looking for joy, but took out Iris instead. This is a friggin' dead end!


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[Assistant] The killer's hideout. I need to get to Judgment House.


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[Assistant] Killer left a clue about the ancient mansion we saw at the museum. Tell Rex about that too. It's probably the killer's place.


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[Assistant] Figures a cop like you would need help to get this far. You mean like, what, the help you got from her mom?


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[Assistant] I know the truth about your death, but I still don't know the truth about mine.


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[Assistant] She's like me, but she found a way to make a respectable living off of what we can do. Living that probably turned her into a target.


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[Assistant] You cops are so hard up on clues that you're actually asking people if they know who the killer is. Now I get why you need so much help.


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[Assistant] Trying to connect one last time with your loved ones or resolve some crazy problem.


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[Assistant] I love my mom, but I can't live in one place for too long or people like you will find me too easily.


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[Assistant] I don't see her that often, but she never just disappears. Not like this.


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[Assistant] Hey, you might know her. She was working the bell killer case with the cops. As a contract psychic. A profiler.


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[Assistant] I found this in the apartment tonight. It mentions something about some bell killer book. And it's in her handwriting.


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[Assistant] No way. Don't get me wrong, you saved my life, and okay, I can't pay that back, but your problems are your problems, and mine are mine.


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[Assistant] Work together? What are you gonna do? You're dead! I'll handle it, just leave me alone!


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[Assistant] Alright, another case of possible bell killer survivor, Iris Campbell.


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[Assistant] Diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, incoherent ramblings about persecution, and a contract.


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[Assistant] Uhm, it just says Lux Eterna. Place.


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[Assistant] Uhm, hi. I need your help. I'm looking for a friend. Visiting hours are over. Right. But, but, she was with the cops?


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[Assistant] How about I just leave it as- Oh, you won.


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[Assistant] I didn't pawn it, asshole. It was stolen from my apartment.


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[Assistant] They pay us dues to handle these kinds of sometimes difficult assignments.


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[Assistant] You would expect the credit card business to be somewhat more profitable than the rest of the industry or parts of the industry because it's riskier.


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[Assistant] Wasn't last year record profits for this industry and they're expected again this year? Uh, yeaah, but compared to what?


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[Assistant] I don't think that's where all the profits are. I think it is generally understood that those that use the revolving part of the credit card, uh, are kind of the sweet spot.


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[Assistant] I do understand it. I think it would be very hard for a lot of people to understand.


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[Assistant] And I think it's a constant battle to try to figure out how you make disclosures and those types of things in plain English so that somebody will, uh, uh, read them.


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[Assistant] And I think there is a misunderstanding about what the credit card agreement is. My agreement with you is you've come to me, you have a certain credit score.


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[Assistant] And based on that credit score, I'm going to charge you 12%. If in the future, it turns out that your credit score has deteriorated, and you now are more risky to me,


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[Assistant] I'm gonna charge you the interest rate I would charge to somebody that has that credit score.


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[Assistant] The product is not a promise to somebody that we will lend you that amount of money forever at that interest rate. It is a very short term revolving line of credit. It's dishonest.


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[Assistant] It would be short-sighted for a credit card company to have fees that, that, uh,


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[Assistant] would make somebody angry because they're likely to lose that customer and I think it's going to cost them more to replace that customer, uh, than they're likely to get out of the feed.


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[Assistant] Pays exactly the minimum, that minimum, every month for 20 years and never charges another thing. This is going to be a hyper-technical, expensive disclosure that nobody would understand.


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[Assistant] So we are against disclosures that nobody would understand and that are wrong. We are for disclosures that help people understand.


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[Assistant] We've done our best to block bad bills. Those are bad bills. And we'll continue to do our best to block them.


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[Assistant] What just happened? We pointed you in the wrong direction, looked at Bloody Mary's reflection.


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[Assistant] Frontline documented the life of Lee Harvey Oswald before memories faded.


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[Assistant] On the 50th anniversary of President Kennedy's assassination, Frontline's definitive investigation of the mysterious life and character of Lee Harvey Oswald.


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[Assistant] The Union Pacific Railroad crosses a triple underpass near a place called Dealey Plaza.


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[Assistant] On the north side of Dealey Plaza are the Dallas County Jail, the courthouse, and the Texas Schoolbook Depository.


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[Assistant] Within two hours, the police had arrested 24 year old Lee Harvey Oswald.


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[Assistant] He was a former marine who had once defected to the Soviet Union.


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[Assistant] That night, as Air Force One brought John Kennedy's body home to Washington.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, conspiracy theories have multiplied as Hollywood movies and 2,000 books have accused the CIA, the FBI, the Pentagon, Fidel Castro, anti-Castro Cubans, the KGB, the Mafia, right-wing oilmen, and even Lyndon Johnson himself of assassinating John Kennedy.


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[Assistant] Lee Harvey Oswald is the ambiguous figure at the heart of the Kennedy assassination.


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[Assistant] As a boy, the Bronx Zoo was a haven for Lee Oswald.


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[Assistant] He had not set foot in school for nearly two months when he was picked up at the zoo for truancy and taken to juvenile court.


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[Assistant] Lee thought he had better ways to use his time than go to school. He spent his days at the public library and museums.


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[Assistant] An endless hours learning the New York City subway system.


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[Assistant] He was born October 18th, 1939 in New Orleans, the son of Marguerite and Robert Oswald.


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[Assistant] Margaret sent the older boys into an orphanage. Lee stayed with his mother.


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[Assistant] When he was three years old, Lee too was sent to the orphanage.


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[Assistant] Likely, Marguerite herself grew up without a parent. It was their common bond.


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[Assistant] At the age of 12, Lee was back with his mother.


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[Assistant] They moved to a small apartment in the Bronx while Marguerite worked days in a dress shop. Lee spent his time alone.


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[Assistant] When the Truant officer came after Lee again, he and his mother fled New York.


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[Assistant] But their home was far from the tourists on Bourbon Street.


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[Assistant] When he was 16, Lee joined the Civil Air Patrol.


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[Assistant] A youth auxiliary of the Air Force. Then, just after his 17th birthday, he enlisted in the Marines. It was 1956, the height of the Cold War.


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[Assistant] Some have claimed he was a poor shot, but military records indicate otherwise.


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[Assistant] He received training and then shipped out for what would be his first great foreign adventure, a posting at Atsugi Japan.


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[Assistant] Did Oswald develop ties to the CIA at Atsugi? There is no hard evidence.


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[Assistant] No one investigated him or his political sympathies.


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[Assistant] Angry and resentful, he challenged the Sergeant who had busted him to a fight.


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[Assistant] Oswald's defection meant traveling from New Orleans to France, England, and Finland.


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[Assistant] From there, on October 15, 1959, he boarded the train from Moscow.


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[Assistant] He later claimed he had saved over $1000 while in the Marines.


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[Assistant] As a deluxe class tourist, Oswald had his own in-tourist guide, Rima Shirakova.


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[Assistant] On their second day, he told Rima his real reason for coming. He wanted to defect.


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[Assistant] With RIMA as their go-between, the KGB considered Oswald's request to stay in Russia.


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[Assistant] Vladimir Simichastny, a former head of the KGB who reviewed Oswald's case, explains why the KGB rejected Oswald.


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[Assistant] Oswald recorded his despair in what he called his historic diary.


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[Assistant] His wounds were quickly stitched up and bandaged. He was then transferred to the psychiatric ward. Dr. Lydia Michalina was on duty when Lee arrived.


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[Assistant] After seven days, Oswald was ready to be discharged.


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[Assistant] But then the KGB called the hospital telling them to hold him until they arrived.


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[Assistant] The KGB wanted to see if Oswald could be useful to them


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[Assistant] Oswald was moved to a hotel while the KGB considered his fate.


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[Assistant] On October 31st, he went to the U.S. Embassy and demanded to see the Consul, Richard Snyder.


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[Assistant] Snyder reported Oswald's threat to Washington, and the Marines changed their radar codes.


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[Assistant] But the KGB says it was unimpressed by the military intelligence Oswald was sharing with them.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, word of Oswald's suicide attempt had reached the top levels of the Kremlin.


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[Assistant] And demanded the KGB reverse its decision and allow him to stay.


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[Assistant] In January 1960, Oswald moved to Minsk.


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[Assistant] He now had the chance to become what he had always wanted to be. A model young Marxist.


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[Assistant] Soviet authorities set him up in style. Despite a chronic housing shortage, he was given a choice apartment, a luxury unheard of for a young bachelor.


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[Assistant] At the Minsk radio and television factory, Oswald helped to build prototypes of new models. As in the Marines, he got off to a good start. Leonid Segoika worked with Oswald.


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[Assistant] Oswald also befriended some college students interested in learning English. He became fast friends with Ernst Tiravitz.


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[Assistant] Titovets made tape recordings of Oswald to study his southern accent.


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[Assistant] The KGB was keeping Oswald under constant surveillance, and it co-opted most of the people he met, including his best friend, Pavel Golovachev.


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[Assistant] Oswald was becoming disillusioned with life in the Soviet Union.


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[Assistant] Then one night, at a dance in the Palace of Culture, a friend introduced him to Marina Prusakova.


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[Assistant] Marina Oswald declined to be interviewed for this program, but she did talk to writer Priscilla McMillan.


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[Assistant] And wrote an intimate portrait of the Oswald's life together.


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[Assistant] A hasty wedding party was arranged at the home of Marina's uncle.


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[Assistant] But the KGB was bugging their apartment and monitoring everything that went on inside.


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[Assistant] Despite their quarrels, Lee and Marina plan to return to the US with their daughter, June.


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[Assistant] But it took 18 months until Soviet and US authorities finally granted them permission to leave.


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[Assistant] Oswald assumed the press would flock to hear his story.


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[Assistant] Lee moved back in with his brother Robert in Fort Worth.


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[Assistant] Officially, the FBI was the only agency that questioned Oswald.


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[Assistant] It remains a mystery why the CIA, which had a growing file on Oswald maintained it never talked to him.


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[Assistant] Frontline researchers poured through Oswald's partially declassified CIA file at the National Archives.


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[Assistant] One high-ranking agent confirmed that the CIA had debriefed Oswald. But he said it was just a routine contact.


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[Assistant] It is still unclear why the CIA covered up its routine debriefing of Oswald.


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[Assistant] Or why the agency still withholds hundreds of files on him.


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[Assistant] In the autumn of 1962, Lee and Marina moved from Fort Worth to Dallas.


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[Assistant] That Thanksgiving, the Oswald family gathered at Robert's house.


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[Assistant] But behind the facade, Lee was beginning to lose control. He was picking fights at work and at home.


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[Assistant] He put his newfound skills to use forging a new identity in the name of Alec J. Heidel.


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[Assistant] He opened a post office box to receive mail for himself and Heidel.


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[Assistant] The left-wing press embraced the issues that mattered to Oswald.


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[Assistant] The campaign for civil rights in the US and Fidel Castro's revolution in Cuba.


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[Assistant] But Oswald longed to be more than an armchair revolutionary. At a party in February 1963,


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[Assistant] Oswald was introduced to oil geologist Volkmar Schmidt. The two hunkered down by a window to talk politics.


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[Assistant] Walker was now embarked on a cross-country tour to rally support for the overthrow of Castro.


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[Assistant] Oswald saw Walker as an up-and-coming Hitler who had to be stopped.


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[Assistant] Using his alias, Lee had already ordered a .38 pistol through the mail. Now he ordered more firepower, a cheap Italian rifle.


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[Assistant] Oswald drew up detailed plans for the assassination of General Walker. He photographed Walker's house. He photographed the area where he would stash his rifle.


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[Assistant] He marked up maps and wrote statements of political purpose.


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[Assistant] He surprised Marina while she was hanging up laundry in the backyard.


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[Assistant] The backyard photographs remain among the most incriminating and controversial evidence against Lee Harvey Oswald.


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[Assistant] One of the best known critics is filmmaker Oliver Stone, whose movie JFK reflects the conspiracy view.


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[Assistant] The House Committee's experts concluded beyond a doubt the signature was his.


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[Assistant] On April 1st, 1963, Lee was fired from his job at the photo lab. No one knows where he spent his days.


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[Assistant] Marina says he spent a few evenings shooting target practice.


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[Assistant] On the night of April 10th, she says, he didn't come home at all.


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[Assistant] That evening, someone fired a single shot through the window of General Walker's study.


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[Assistant] The Walker case would not be resolved until after the Kennedy assassination when Marina told her story and the Walker bullet was linked to Oswald's ammunition. No co-conspirators were ever identified.


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[Assistant] Two weeks later, on April 24th, 1963, Oswald abruptly left Dallas. In seven months, he would write into the history books.


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[Assistant] But for now, he was headed for his hometown, New Orleans.


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[Assistant] By now, Oswald had found an apartment on Magazine Street.


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[Assistant] New Orleans was seething with intrigue and paranoia, plot and counter plot.


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[Assistant] These were the people whom Fidel Castro called gusanos, the worms.


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[Assistant] But President Kennedy's failure to topple Fidel Castro was eroding support for him in the Cuban exile community. The hard men in the paramilitary groups felt betrayed.


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[Assistant] The Cuban enclaves burned with a murderous hatred for the president. In the summer of 1963, nothing could have been more provocative.


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[Assistant] The Naswall's open espousal of Castro's cause.


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[Assistant] Oswald defended Castro on local radio and gave a television interview about his own Marxist beliefs.


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[Assistant] In May 1963, Lee Oswald wrote to America's leading pro-Castro group, the Fair Play for Cuba committee. He was offering to start a chapter in New Orleans.


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[Assistant] The committee discouraged him, but he ignored their advice.


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[Assistant] From his home address, he designed Pro Castro leaflets and phony membership cards.


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[Assistant] Then he began handing out the leaflets on the streets of New Orleans.


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[Assistant] He continued to pretend he was more than just a one-man band.


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[Assistant] Oswald's Pro Castro activities seemed genuine enough. But what happened next is a puzzle.


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[Assistant] In August, he approached the leader of an anti-Castro group named Carlos Bringuer.


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[Assistant] The manual showed how to make bombs, booby traps, and how to conduct sabotage operations. But a few days later,


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[Assistant] Carlos Bringuer found Oswald handing out pro-Castro leaflets on Canal Street.


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[Assistant] Police were called to the scene where an amateur movie maker filmed the angry Cubans as they surrounded Oswald.


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[Assistant] When one of the Cubans took the Procastro leaflets and threw them on the ground, the police arrested Oswald and eight Cubans for disturbing the peace.


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[Assistant] At the police station, Oswald's conduct became even more mysterious.


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[Assistant] One piece of evidence has continued to raise important questions about Oswald's true attitude toward Cuba and whose side he was really on.


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[Assistant] Guy Banister was actively involved in the secret training of Cuban exiles.


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[Assistant] One of Bannister's comrades in the fight against Castro was a former airline pilot named David Ferry, who had flown many dangerous missions over Cuba. And Ferry apparently had an earlier link to Oswald.


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[Assistant] In the 1950s, David Ferry commanded a squadron in CAP, the Civil Air Patrol.


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[Assistant] In the 50s, Lee Oswald was in the Civil Air Patrol.


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[Assistant] And several fellow cadets said David Ferry was one of Oswald's instructors.


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[Assistant] Frontline uncovered the first hard evidence that places Oswald and Ferry together. This photograph.


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[Assistant] Taken in 1955 at a CAP barbecue.


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[Assistant] John Cirovolo and Tony Atzenhofer were in the CAP with Lee Oswald.


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[Assistant] After the Kennedy assassination, David Ferri denied that he ever knew Lee Oswald.


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[Assistant] But if David Ferri was with Oswald in 1963...


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[Assistant] It could be significant because both Ferry and Bannister were also linked to another group which hated the president. Organized crime.


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[Assistant] A mafia chieftain of New Orleans was a prime target of the administration's war on organized crime. In 1961, Attorney General Robert Kennedy, the president's brother,


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[Assistant] Marcello returned to New Orleans to fight the deportation order.


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[Assistant] His attorneys hired both Guy Banister and David Ferry as investigators in the case. For Robert Blakey.


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[Assistant] Who believes the mafia was involved in the Kennedy assassination, this is the critical link.


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[Assistant] If Oswald did have a secret connection to Ferry and Bannister in 1963, the nature of that relationship remains unclear.


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[Assistant] But in public Oswald continued to demonstrate for Castro.


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[Assistant] Oswald wrote an account of his political activity in New Orleans describing himself as a Marxist, a street agitator.


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[Assistant] After the Kennedy assassination, the debate was reenacted on film, using the original sound recording of Oswald's voice.


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[Assistant] By now, he had been fired from three jobs in the past year. At his local library.


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[Assistant] Marina says Lee told her he wanted to go fight for Castro, and he began hatching a scheme to hijack a plane to Havana.


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[Assistant] On September 25th, Oswald disappeared from New Orleans.


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[Assistant] He is next seen the following day, alone on a bus, heading south from Laredo.


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[Assistant] In Mexico City, Oswald checked into a cheap hotel near the bus station.


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[Assistant] He had brought the file on his political activity


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[Assistant] It detailed the leafleting, his arrest and his appearances on radio and television.


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[Assistant] He described himself as a Marxist political organizer and street agitator who had infiltrated anti-Castro groups.


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[Assistant] That same day, Oswald went to the Cuban consulate. Here, he met Sylvia Duran.


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[Assistant] Duran told him he could only enter Cuba on a temporary visa, and only if he was in transit to Russia.


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[Assistant] So Oswald walked the short distance to the Soviet diplomatic compound.


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[Assistant] At the Soviet embassy, he met with three consular officials. In fact,


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[Assistant] All three were KGB officers working under diplomatic cover. In this, their first interview, they recalled that Oswald's hands were shaking and his behavior was erratic.


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[Assistant] Oswald was told it would take several months to get a Soviet visa. But without one, he would be unable to go to Cuba.


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[Assistant] Duran says Oswald lost his temper with Consolasqua.


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[Assistant] As he left the embassy, Oswald should have been observed by CIA operatives.


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[Assistant] From houses across the street, the CIA was maintaining non-stop photo surveillance on the Russians and Cubans.


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[Assistant] Yet the CIA claimed it failed to take one single photograph of Oswald.


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[Assistant] This has fueled speculation that Oswald never went to Mexico.


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[Assistant] The late Wyn Scott, in his memoirs, also said the CIA took pictures of Oswald.


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[Assistant] The tape was poor quality, but its mere existence was significant.


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[Assistant] But there is much evidence that the real Oswald was in Mexico City.


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[Assistant] At the Soviet embassy, all three KGB officers told Frontline the man they met was the real Lee Harvey Oswald. Not the man in the photograph the CIA released.


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[Assistant] And the records at the Hotel Comercio show the real Oswald was here too. The handwriting on the register is his.


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[Assistant] But in the end, both the Russians and the Cubans rejected him.


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[Assistant] In the early hours of an October morning, Oswald boarded a bus heading north.


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[Assistant] Seven weeks before President Kennedy's fatal motorcade through Dallas, Lee Harvey Oswald returned to the city. With no place to call his own, he checked into the YMCA for a few days. He had no job and no means to support his family.


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[Assistant] And Oswald was hired as a warehouse clerk to fill orders for textbooks. The job paid only $1.25 an hour, but Lee liked the idea he would be working with books.


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[Assistant] He'd ride the bus home to a rooming house in the Oak Cliff neighborhood.


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[Assistant] Then on Sunday, five days before the assassination, Ruth Payne tried to call him at the rooming house.


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[Assistant] On Wednesday evening, two days before the assassination.


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[Assistant] One of the boarders at the rooming house recalls Oswald intently watching a TV news story about President Kennedy's visit to Dallas.


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[Assistant] That week, Dallas newspapers published more details, including maps of the motorcade route.


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[Assistant] A White House party would fly into Dallas and drive through the city.


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[Assistant] The planned route would take the motorcade into Dealey Plaza.


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[Assistant] After work on Thursday, Oswald asked a co-worker to give him a lift to Irving.


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[Assistant] Sometime that evening, Oswald entered the garage, where he kept his rifle.


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[Assistant] Lee woke up early the next morning. Marina was still sleeping. He made his own coffee. Then he kissed his children and told Marina goodbye.


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[Assistant] When Oswald left the house, he was carrying an oblong package wrapped in brown paper.


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[Assistant] He told the neighbor who gave him a ride to work that the package contained curtain rods for his room in Oak Cliff.


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[Assistant] A long empty brown bag would be found on the sixth floor of the book depository.


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[Assistant] President Kennedy was up early that morning as well. In Fort Worth the crowds were friendly.


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[Assistant] In Dallas, Oswald's co-workers were eagerly awaiting the motorcade.


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[Assistant] In Fort Worth, the president was headed to the airport for the short flight to Dallas.


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[Assistant] About 12 o'clock, Oswald's co-workers went down to lunch. Oswald shouted for them to send the elevator back up.


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[Assistant] By now, President Kennedy and his wife had landed at Love Field. The welcome was warm.


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[Assistant] On the sixth floor of the depository, someone had screamed off a corner window with boxes. Oswald's prints would later be found on some of them.


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[Assistant] Including the boxes arranged to support the sniper's rifle.


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[Assistant] Two witnesses spotted a man with a rifle at the sixth floor window.


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[Assistant] Oswald later claimed that at this time he was eating lunch with two fellow workers and had then gone to buy a Coke. But his co-workers denied having lunch with Oswald.


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[Assistant] Evidence if true that there was a conspiracy to kill the president.


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[Assistant] This film, shot by amateur cameraman Robert Hughes,


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[Assistant] And then starts again just as the limousine passes in front of the depository.


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[Assistant] Frontline had this footage scientifically enhanced to see if a second man could be seen on the sixth floor.


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[Assistant] Just seven seconds before the first shot is fired. Something moves in the corner window.


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[Assistant] Harold Norman raises his arm and waves to the president.


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[Assistant] Frame by frame, the tragedy unfolds in the 21 seconds of 8mm film shot by Abraham Zapruder.


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[Assistant] As the motorcade runs the corner, it slows. In the background, a little girl runs beside the limousine.


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[Assistant] Governor Connolly hears it and turns. The little girl stops dead and looks around.


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[Assistant] Three seconds later, a second shot. A bullet has passed through the president's throat. It hits Connolly in the back and he starts falling. Mrs. Kennedy turns to her husband. Something's wrong. She looks into his face.


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[Assistant] But there is a growing consensus that the Zapruder film shows three shots were fired in about eight seconds.


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[Assistant] Some believe a second gunman fired a fourth shot from the grassy knoll.


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[Assistant] Immediately after the shooting, many people followed a policeman up the embankment.


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[Assistant] But when police searched the area, they found no gunmen, no gun, no cartridges.


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[Assistant] Computer modeling is a technique that was not available to earlier investigators.


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[Assistant] These three-dimensional graphics of Dealey Plaza were produced by a specialist company called Failure Analysis Associates on behalf of the American Bar Association. By feeding data into the computer,


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[Assistant] It is possible to model the trajectory of the so-called magic bullet.


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[Assistant] The second shot fired from the sixth floor of the Texas Schoolbook Depository.


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[Assistant] Critics say that unless it pursued a bizarre zigzag trajectory,


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[Assistant] And if the three shots were fired in eight seconds, this is the computer model of the sniper's view.


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[Assistant] After the third shot, someone saw the sniper slowly withdraw his rifle. Leaving three cartridges on the floor, he made his way to the stairs


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[Assistant] A rifle with one shell still in the breech was later found behind some boxes.


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[Assistant] Oswald was first seen 90 seconds later, standing by the door of the lunchroom, looking calm.


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[Assistant] Within three minutes of the shooting, Oswald walked out the front door.


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[Assistant] He boarded a bus but jumped out and hailed a taxi when the bus got stuck in traffic.


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[Assistant] He asked the taxi to drop him a couple of blocks away from his rooming house in Oak Cliff.


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[Assistant] This is the room for which Oswald said he needed curtain rods.


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[Assistant] Oswald put a .38 revolver in his waistband, took a light zippered jacket from his closet, and left.


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[Assistant] By now, the Texas school book depository had been sealed off.


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[Assistant] And police had issued a description of a suspect in the assassination.


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[Assistant] Officer J.D. Tippett had been patrolling an oak cliff when he was gunned down. Killed instantly next to his car.


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[Assistant] Of the seven eyewitnesses to the shooting, the one with probably the clearest view was Jack Tatum.


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[Assistant] As the police cars sped by the Texas movie theater, the cashier stepped out of her ticket booth to see what was happening. As she did, a man slipped past her without buying a ticket. But someone saw him and called the police.


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[Assistant] As policemen moved through the theater, Oswald tried to draw his revolver.


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[Assistant] Outside the movie house, an angry crowd jeered as Oswald was bundled into a police car.


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[Assistant] His main interrogator would be the renowned homicide detective, Captain Will Fritz.


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[Assistant] The case against Oswald was building. Police had recovered the rifle, and the FBI had traced its purchase to an A. Heidel.


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[Assistant] Around midnight on November 22nd, Oswald was paraded in front of the press. He had just been charged with the murder of Officer Tippett.


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[Assistant] And he was about to be charged with the assassination of President Kennedy.


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[Assistant] At the back of the room that night was one man who was not a policeman or a reporter.


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[Assistant] His name was Jacob Rubenstein, known as Jack Ruby. In less than 36 hours, he would murder Lee Harvey Oswald.


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[Assistant] Jack Ruby was a police informer who owned a striptease club. He made sure that policemen who came to his club were shown a good time.


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[Assistant] Ruby was also acquainted with leading figures in the Dallas underworld, including Sam and Joe Campisi.


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[Assistant] The mafia boss who had reportedly talked of killing the president.


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[Assistant] Ruby spent much of Saturday hanging around Dallas police headquarters.


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[Assistant] That day, Oswald was taken from his cell several times to be interrogated and made to stand in police lineups. Ruby had no opportunity to shoot Oswald.


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[Assistant] But he was asking lots of questions about when the police would transfer him to the county jail.


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[Assistant] If Ruby was stalking Oswald, Sunday morning would be his last chance.


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[Assistant] The police had announced Oswald would be transferred to the county jail at 10 a.m.


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[Assistant] It is still unclear whether Ruby slipped into the basement through an unlocked door or just walked down the ramp.


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[Assistant] Upstairs, Jim Lavelle was about to bring Oswald down in the elevator. More than an hour late.


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[Assistant] Wearing a light-colored suit and a Stetson, Lavelle was Oswald's escort.


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[Assistant] As Ruby lunged forward and fired his gun, he yelled, You killed my president, you rat.


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[Assistant] And later, as the police escort tackled him and let him away, I'm happy that I got him.


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[Assistant] Or did Sparky Ruby shoot Oswald in a flash of violent rage?


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[Assistant] Ruby would die in prison from natural causes.


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[Assistant] Oswald never regained consciousness after he was shot.


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[Assistant] His death meant the evidence against him would never be tested in court.


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[Assistant] But over the years, the strength of that case has continued to grow.


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[Assistant] Significant evidence may have been overlooked by all the official investigations.


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[Assistant] Soon after the shots were fired, Dallas police dusted the murder weapon and found partial fingerprints near the trigger guard and a clear palm print on the barrel.


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[Assistant] Amid decades of accusations that the police had planted the palm print on the rifle.


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[Assistant] The latent fingerprints on the trigger guard were largely ignored. But 30 years later,


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[Assistant] A complete set of the long forgotten photographs of the rifle and of the latent fingerprints came to light.


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[Assistant] A former high-ranking FBI fingerprint expert who examined the prints for Frontline.


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[Assistant] Said they were simply not clear enough to make any identification.


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[Assistant] But Vincent Scalise, the House Assassinations Committee expert, came to a very different conclusion.


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[Assistant] In Dallas, the police honored Officer J.D. Tippett.


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[Assistant] And on that same day in Fort Worth, the remains of Lee Harvey Oswald were laid to rest. But the questions about his role in the assassination have lived on for years.


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[Assistant] John Kennedy had many enemies. The mafia had called for his death. Many Cuban exiles celebrated it.


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[Assistant] Lee Harvey Oswald's life may have intersected with those forces.


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[Assistant] But there is no hard evidence that in the last days in Dallas, they were influencing Oswald to act.


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[Assistant] Alright, very good. I just remember, you guys are too young, but there was a movie called Midnight, I think it was Midnight Express.


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[Assistant] And it was the, the lead character was flying through Turkey and he had hash taped to him all around. Wow. And it was based on a true story. The actor Brad Davis played the role.


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[Assistant] And if you ever get a chance, I know you'll love it. It is a thriller, like no thriller you've ever seen.


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[Assistant] I was pretty young when I saw it. It probably came out like 80, 81. I think it's called Midnight Express, but he gets caught in a Turkish prison. Oh hell no. And you know that, I think is where the meme came from. Yea, right. Locked up.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. It's just crazy. I mean, sometimes we, uh, have to be reminded the power of this thing. And social media and how a punch thrown at the corner of Carnegie and Ontario can immediately be viewed


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[Assistant] I was not watching the game. I've lost interest as I well documented on Friday. Wasn't watching the game.


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[Assistant] And I got a text from a good friend of mine showing the fight. And I'm like, oh my god, what?


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[Assistant] What happened? And I also wasn't watching the night before. I heard all about the tag push off the push off from my baseball teammates when I got to my game Saturday.


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[Assistant] And I said, well, when I saw the fight, I go, that's gotta be carry over. You know, that's definitely carry over. And I love everything that Jose did. I mean,


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[Assistant] He slid hard, he was sending a message, and then he dropped him. And Hammy's call?


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[Assistant] Might be the best part about it. There's already a shirt that says Down Goes Anderson with an image of the fight.


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[Assistant] He was, his, he had no legs. He didn't know where he was. So I do think that, you know, the term in sports, glass jaw, we've all heard it.


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[Assistant] If you've ever, if you have never been punched in the face, you don't know if you have one or not. I have been punched in the face. I have, and uh, in hockey fights, and I found that it didn't affect me at all. It didn't affect my, it hurt like hell.


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[Assistant] But it didn't send any tripwires to my brain or to my legs. To be out. I've seen other guys, big guys.


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[Assistant] And he's much bigger than, than Jose. Yeah, yeah, sure. And so he's, his momentum is being pulled away and he just flails it and he sort of.


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[Assistant] But you can see, when you watch that slow motion version, you can see the fuse blow.


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[Assistant] In Anderson, cause he just does a little wobble, and he's done.


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[Assistant] And there was kind of a player revolt under Tony LaRusso. And I'm wondering if LaRusso, who's old school. And they didn't play well for him either. They did not. They didn't like him.


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[Assistant] Oh. They didn't like him. There was a real rift between La Russa and the players. Yeah. In part, I was told, because of all the rules. Right. And I wonder if White Sox management didn't say, look, this is 2023.


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[Assistant] And they're not doing well with all this structure. And I wonder if they then swung the pendulum too far the other way and said, let's relax the atmosphere and see what happened.


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[Assistant] But you know, Jose's a strong guy. He is. He's got nice bat speed. Yep. And here it comes, and what's crazy to me is, Jose really wasn't even looking at him. Nope. He's looking down.


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[Assistant] And he hits him right in the jaw and on, and guys, I know you say that some guys when they get in fights, they say we won some, we lost some, but.


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[Assistant] This is one of the most embarrassing things that can happen to a professional athlete. Because you got stripped of your machismo.


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[Assistant] In front of the world. And if this was 1991 or Robin Ventura or whatever year that was, got beat to death by Nolan Ryan, that was bad enough.


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[Assistant] Cause it played on George Michael sports machine and sports center. But there weren't people in Germany or wherever McNuggets was born is playing and everybody was staring at the phone looking at the same. That's probably been viewed 100 million times.


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[Assistant] You know, I wonder if it's done between these two. Because to your point, to your point,


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[Assistant] By the way, hold on, before you do that, Jose Ramirez, for his part, said, look,


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[Assistant] He wanted to fight. He, he, he, he said, and so I had to defend myself. Now, both guys are going to get games, probably three or maybe five, something like that. It was a doozy. Both guys are going to get suspended. I don't think Jose should. What was Jose supposed to do when the guy drops his gloves? That, that is basically a let's go.


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[Assistant] He does not have a good reputation. So what did he say on Twitter?


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[Assistant] Oh I see, okay. So he starts down there at the bottom, you know all this happening for a reason.


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[Assistant] Well, he ain't going after him on the street. I'll tell you this, uhm, I think the commissioner is now has to weigh that evidence.


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[Assistant] As to what he does. And he might have to go...


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[Assistant] Seven or ten games on Anderson with the caveat that if there's any retaliation, if there's any future dust-up, you get half a year.


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[Assistant] What happens stays there. And almost never, there's been a very, there's been a handful of exceptions. Have there ever been criminal charges for something that's taken place on a field or on ice? I say ice because I know one time there were charges against a player who started a fight on ice. Uhm, but if you're making threats like this,


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[Assistant] And then you go after Jose the next time they meet up on the diamond, which if you can, Mikey, find out are they done for the year or do they get to meet these guys again?


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[Assistant] Because if it, if, if something dusts up later,


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[Assistant] Then it almost becomes an assault. A premeditated assault.


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[Assistant] I would say, my money would be on Tim Anderson.


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[Assistant] I want, you know, Barstool makes fights now. I don't know why. Yeaah. It's very lucrative business. I want the UCSS pay per view Tim Anderson.


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[Assistant] That would be amazing. We broadcast it. The three of us on the mics.


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[Assistant] So these knucklehead, these knucklehead nerds that run social media companies are gonna do it. And Dana White, who makes fights for a living, said that if this happens, it will be the most watched fight ever.


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[Assistant] And we, and we put the fight for Saturday night in February. And the calves are out of town.


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[Assistant] And we said Jose Ramirez versus Tim Anderson.


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[Assistant] Let me tell you what Tim Anderson is doing right now. He's on the road in his hotel. The lights are all out. His ringer's off on his phone.


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[Assistant] The generic call, like, whenever there's going to be a moment and you know there's going to be a moment, whether it's clinching the ALCS or, you know, the World Series victory, these guys stand in front of their mirror and they practice the call because they want it to be good. Al Michaels didn't do that with Do You Believe in Miracles? It happened.


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[Assistant] Hammy, there's no way he ever could have anticipated this was gonna happen. No chance. He was a true play-by-play man in that moment. He was calling what he was seeing, but he didn't know what was coming next.


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[Assistant] Kudos to the producer and director of the Guardians games on Valleys, because that's a camera that's a fixed shot. They usually like it when Closet comes out and they take it every time.


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[Assistant] But this one was, this one made me laugh for sure. Are you on Instagram?


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[Assistant] I didn't know that's what it was called, but yes, yes, yes, yes. It's a lot of fun. One of our producers upstairs, who's a big baseball guy, Tyler is his name, uhm, he does it. And he's shown me, I love them. It's so much fun. It's a lot of fun. Now what's great is, instead of going with the obvious choice,


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[Assistant] Here's what I love, uh, at a time when they've lost seven of nine. Wow. That's crazy. They are in a death spiral. Yes, they are. Their season's over. It's gone. It's out of control.


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[Assistant] Premeditated any of, or all of it. By the way, he slid hard and late into second base. So, I mean, that's, that was a thing. I didn't think the tag was particularly egregious. Not in this case though. I mean, Hosey, we knew what he was doing when he slid that late.


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[Assistant] Hosey does things that no other players can do. We see him run the bases and we're like, but what else tries that? The way, you know, the way he'll take chances and he's always, always knows just when to go. Uh, I'm wondering if this wasn't Hosey saying, it's a Hail Mary.


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[Assistant] Our season is now obviously they lost that game but they were down big already and then they blew it yesterday. That was unbelievable. I mean that was a one man thing and it should have been a win.


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[Assistant] Thank you, thank you, thank you management. I mean, it's kind of an important position.


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[Assistant] It is over, it is, but, you know, I mean, in Hosey's world,


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[Assistant] Yeah. And that's it. Right. Now it didn't work. No.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I'm with Bull. Uhm, very short-term bump in interest, but nobody's gonna sit down and watch the Guardians game tonight.


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[Assistant] That they've never, they haven't been a baseball fan, but now they are going to.


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[Assistant] So no, I don't think that, you know, they're good. Now, in the case of hockey, I do believe that hockey has had to transition from one kind of fan to another.


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[Assistant] The fan of the NHL in the 70s and 80s.


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[Assistant] were the guys that had shotguns and I hate to characterize here, but shotguns in the back of their pickup trucks


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[Assistant] Maybe some empty beer cans in the cab and they were all about the violence of the sport.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I had a lot of friends that were fans of the NHL in the 80s. When they tried to clean it up and take fighting out of it, they lost a lot of those fans.


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[Assistant] Now they probably weren't hockey fans in the first place. They were fans of watching people throw hands.


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[Assistant] And it was prevalent back then. And they let him go. Like you said earlier, the hockey refs just skate back.


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[Assistant] You know, when the gloves came off, it was like they'd square up and they'd go for minutes.


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[Assistant] No, the sport has totally changed. It's more of a finesse game, more European style, the way they've played it.


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[Assistant] And now the sport is still popular and I don't think it's waned in any popularity.


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[Assistant] But it's a different kind of fan that watches it now. They're looking for the finesse. They like that side of it.


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[Assistant] Every time a fight happens, it's the most exciting moment in the arena. They still love that, but, uh, so no, I don't think in general it's good for the sport.


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[Assistant] Was it Bert? It was Campanaris for the A's threw a bat at a pitcher.


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[Assistant] That stuff happens when you've got a lot of testosterone flowing and there's a big moment and something like that happens.


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[Assistant] Like, a fan getting punched by a player. Or a player shaving points. Yea, that too. Cause now it's the integrity of the game.


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[Assistant] I mean that's a deadly weapon. When you're holding something like that and swinging it, if that hits in the wrong spot, it could be catastrophic. And that's why the league came down so hard on Miles Garrett. And I think in general the leagues have policed this kind of thing pretty well.


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[Assistant] My fear is because there hasn't been something like this in baseball in a while, it might be on the heavier side.


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[Assistant] I'm with you. I enjoyed it in the moment. And I think everybody else did. That's why it was so widely shared on social media.


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[Assistant] Okay, listen. He didn't hit him on purpose. Barry Bonds was famously walked in texture with the bases loaded and it was a smart play.


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[Assistant] 15 years ago in New Jersey and we were playing against a team that had all young and just out of college guys and their pitcher was from Boston College but he was a third baseman and we were winning and they were out of pitchers so they just put the third baseman in because he could throw hard.


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[Assistant] And I'm telling you, this guy was throwing in the 90s. He was young. He was probably 23, 24 years old.


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[Assistant] I said to the catcher, the guy before me got hit, I said to the catcher, I go, should this guy be pitching? He's throwing hard enough that we're not going to be able to get out of the way.


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[Assistant] And my, my first thought was, and I jumped up and started to take a step out to him.


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[Assistant] And, you know, my teammates quickly came off because they knew something could happen. Right. I wasn't going to get, I didn't want to get to him. He was 6'4", 225. He was a massive guy.


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[Assistant] But in that moment, I didn't care about anything other than you just threw a baseball at 90 plus miles an hour, cracked my helmet, hit it so hard.


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[Assistant] And at that, at that moment, you just don't even, you're just, you, you wanna do, you want to vent your frustration. It happens.


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[Assistant] No, I think it was a principle. He thought about it for a while. Man, that was just crazy.


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[Assistant] That was an individual punch, but that was first punch. He just cattle roped him, you know? I mean this dude is, he, he has a cattle ranch.


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[Assistant] That the two of them can get together and endorse and make something good of it. And laugh at yourself, Robin. It's been 25 years? It's been 30 years. 30 years, bro. Like, just embrace it.


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[Assistant] Ask any, and I, I told my wife this when I, I said, Tim Anderson, this is Tim Anderson's first, the first paragraph of his obit will include this. And she's like, no. And I said,


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[Assistant] Do me a favor. Start going to Google and type in Jose Bautista. And then stop.


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[Assistant] And within the first or second thing you're gonna see is gonna be punch. And I said, now do Robin Ventura.


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[Assistant] No, how about this? How about we get Joe, uh, uh, Joey Bats, Robin Ventura, and Tim Anderson together.


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[Assistant] I think it was a playoff game. I thought it was a wild card game. I don't remember now. Oh wait, there's a date up there. Does that say May?


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[Assistant] That was as dirty a slide as you can get. And Bull, I wanted to say this to you today. Yeaah. Because I was thinking about this, about baseball gods. Like for anybody that's played baseball for their whole life.


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[Assistant] You know that there really are baseball gods. There just are. I don't believe in any gods. I believe in baseball gods. I believe if you hit the ball, this has happened to me countless times, have an 0 for 3 day, but you


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[Assistant] Lace every single shot. You square it up. Third baseman makes a great play. Left fielder dives and catches one in the gap. Shortstop jumps and takes away a gap double.


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[Assistant] What is going on? Then the next game, you swing and you nub one down the third baseline that nobody can get to. It stays fair. And it's a liner in the book. You're one for one. And then it all evens out. It's called the baseball dots.


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[Assistant] I think Joey Batista disrespected the game big time.


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[Assistant] I'm all for the flair, I love the, you know, but when, his nickname's Joey Bats for a reason.


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[Assistant] He had probably the most memorable bat flip after home run that I've ever seen. I don't know if you can find it, Mike, for those that haven't seen it, but that was his trademark. A lot of guys don't like that. The old school ballplayers


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[Assistant] Even today's players, there's, there's a ceiling that you can't.


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[Assistant] Disrespectful. You can, you can end a guy's career doing that. Yeaah, that was, that was right. That was a terrible, and the baseball god said, oh, oh, okay, you're about to catch one square in the jaw in front of god and everybody. Same with Tim Anderson. His reputation, even before this, if you ask around baseball, what's Tim Anderson's reputation?


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[Assistant] He's, he's a punk. That's what guys have called him. He's just a punk. And...


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[Assistant] He got it. I mean, the baseball gods delivered it again. And I believe in that. I believe that, you know, karma has a funny way of leveling the playing field. Street justice. Street justice is right. I got it.


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[Assistant] It wasn't even, he, it was almost a glancing blow. It knocked him out. The results were great. But the results matter.


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[Assistant] We don't want to go down that road. I will say, so my very first baseball game ever, and this was to Mikey's question, does baseball need more fights? I'm as big a baseball fan as Bull, and I'm bigger than most people I know in terms of my fandom.


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[Assistant] I was five years old, my dad took me to an Indians Tigers game at Old Municipal Stadium. Right. And a fight broke out between the Tigers and the Indians. Ray Fossey was hit by a pitch, charged the mound. Their pitcher came off the mound with his spikes and caught Ray in the hand and the neck. Blood everywhere. Geez.


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[Assistant] The umpire at the time was quoted in the game story because I recently looked it up because I was trying to figure out when did this happen. I think it was June of 1970.


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[Assistant] I found a New York Times story. The umpire who had been umpiring in baseball at that time for like 19 years said this is the


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[Assistant] Uh, with bats, and it was just, and we were sitting like in the second or third row, and we saw all of it, and I asked my dad, does this happen all the time? I know. He's like, I've never seen anything like this in my life.


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[Assistant] I thought he seemed a little nervous. I mean, which is understandable, but


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[Assistant] I thought that he seemed just a little bit nervous. It was a well written speech. It was fine.


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[Assistant] They usually say that, that, you know, in the moment it's such a blur, it hasn't sunk in down the road when he makes his first visit to Canton and sees his bust in the display, maybe it might hit him then. I think, uhm, for me, it was, and I heard from some of my friends that are national, that live in other places that aren't Browns fans, one of them said, bro, I forgot how bad the Browns were. Like, the one thing that it shined a light on was how bad we sucked.


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[Assistant] And that's what another friend said. Right. If he was so good, why were they so bad? And I'm like, bro.


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[Assistant] He plays a very important position, but he's not throwing passes or catching passes. They just never put anything around them. They never put the pieces around them. Another friend said...


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[Assistant] Damn your management sucked. Like you had a cornerstone at a position that's really hard to get a cornerstone and you did nothing with them. All facts, all true. And it just reminded me hearing him and other people throughout the ceremony talking just how bad they were.


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[Assistant] No, but what's really striking to me is, as I was kind of juxtaposing Joe's era to now,


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[Assistant] You can have a 25 winning percentage when you've got one all-time great player because that's all you have. What an indictment it's going to be on this team.


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[Assistant] If at the end of all of this, Nick Chubb, Betonio, and Miles Garrett all go in the Hall of Fame, because I think you're right, they're all arcing that way right now.


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[Assistant] What do they have to show for that? They have a playoff win.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jim Donovan did a piece on Channel 3, about a five minute piece.


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[Assistant] On the artist and Joe sitting down for like eight hours.


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[Assistant] Twice. Two different days. It was a lot of good behind the scenes footage. It was a really good piece. If you get a chance, it's on WKYC.com.


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[Assistant] You know, like, how, how did someone pay, was paid to do that? And the other one was, uhm, Baker Mayfield at Oklahoma. That statue. Oh, that was terrible. That, I, I think.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm so pissed at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for their induction, takes it to LA or New York.


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[Assistant] The coastal cities get enough crap. Like, why can't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame be at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame every year? If you don't want to come, stay in New York.


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[Assistant] A village. It's a football village. It's awesome. I talked to a lot of fans from all over. You see gear from all 32.


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[Assistant] And I talked to people from Buffalo to Los Angeles, Seattle.


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[Assistant] They love it. They love it. It's like a pilgrimage to...


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[Assistant] Come to Canton where it all began and to feel close to the Hall of Fame and to go through the actual museum and all that. It's awesome, don't mess with it. So Tim, I love Tim Kalashov, that's a terrible thing.


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[Assistant] And the idea that they wouldn't play the game, like, it's not like it's the Pro Bowl. Like, I've got no use for the Pro Bowl. No, that's a waste of time. If you want to get rid of something, get rid of the NBA All-Star game. Like, that's the game that I'm like, what the hell, why are they even doing this? What is this?


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[Assistant] Superstone is amazing. For those that haven't been, particularly in the summer.


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[Assistant] It's one of the most beautiful vistas that you can imagine. You come through the mountains and then all of a sudden there's this gorgeous lake with a beautiful championship caliber golf course right there. The old hotel, which feels like you're walking back into the 1930s. The museum, the town, the village. It's like old school America with the dome over it.


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[Assistant] I love, I love Cougarstown. I love Canton.


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[Assistant] I don't know, I really enjoy Canton. I love the game. It's not going away. The light thing was unfortunate for sure. But it happened in the Super Bowl. These things can happen. Real quick before we go.


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[Assistant] Do you think baseball will put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame after he passes?


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[Assistant] But it just seems to me that at some point he's gotta be there. Especially now the game has embraced gambling the way it has.


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[Assistant] I don't know that I buy into that completely because, for instance, MVPs, uhm, like, Andrew Luck played when Brady and Manning played.


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[Assistant] He put those numbers up in the 70s and 80s, but he was doing it at a time when there were three or four other guys at that time.


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[Assistant] If you played 13 or 14 years, what the hell? Because Bull, as you know,


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[Assistant] He's going to work his ass off. You know what he does in the off season. He lifts, you know, shots of him squatting a thousand pounds or whatever it is. The damn bar is bent like this.


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[Assistant] But, like, all this chatter about, oh, he's gone, he's gone, they're trading him. No, I don't think so. The Browns have actually come out and said, look, we value Nick Chubb.


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[Assistant] No, but here's what I'll say, to your point, there are very few players that I look at as royalty. Walter Payton, to me, had royalty status. Like, nobody in the game had a bad word to say about him. He was great in the community. Hell,


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[Assistant] It's the Walter Payton Man of the Year award. What better, what better accomplishment can, can a player hope to achieve than the Walter Payton Man of the Year award? Nick Chubb is in that space.


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[Assistant] That's a player on the ground. That's a good guy, good teammate, tremendous talent, never is a problem. If you had 53 with his mentality, work ethic and attitude, you got a super boy.


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[Assistant] And it's funny, we've buried the running back position, dead and gone, they're never going to be a factor again. I don't believe that. I believe that everything is cyclical. There will be a defensive coordinator, maybe it'll be Bill Belichick.


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[Assistant] Who, or I mean an offensive coordinator who looks at things and just like Bill did with the tight ends, defenses were being built to disregard the tight end. What did Bill do? He went and got two very athletic tight ends that could do things that nobody else could do at that position. And now all 31 defenses across the league were built


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[Assistant] To not have to worry about those guys, and he exploited it. The same thing is gonna, there will be a renaissance, it's a running back position. It will never be the most important position in the game again.


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[Assistant] But it's not going to be devalued to the point where they're sitting on a trash heap right now and can't get jobs. Right.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna have a good year, guys. I really do. I like Ford. I think he's, and look, if he has, if he's productive,


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[Assistant] And that's how you can spell Nick Chubb. Sure, but I just- Because God knows he spends a lot of time on the sidelines.


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[Assistant] No, probably not. He's like their fourth back. But here's the thing. Here's what's so crazy about this, guys. We like Felton. Yeah. We like Ford. We like Kelly. Maybe they are interchangeable. I don't know.


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[Assistant] I think there's a select few that are special. Chubb's in that group. Henry's in that group. Taylor, I think, can be in that group. But other than that,


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[Assistant] Like these guys all seem to be pretty effective. So maybe the GMs...


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[Assistant] See I would. I would not. Not with Nick Chubb on my team.


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[Assistant] I mean, I obviously feel, if he's ever going to explode, it has to happen this year.


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[Assistant] What we've seen in the NFL, particularly for young quarterbacks that struggled initially, they do break through their ceiling. We've seen guys take a huge step back after they've done that. And I'm still not convinced.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, but here's what I want to see. How does he adjust to the adjustments that the league made? That's right. Because that's what the big question even on Deshaun Watson is. And you know, we saw the other guys that have come through and had a lot of early success and then all of a sudden like, wait, what happened? This guy just got bad all of a sudden. And there's pressure.


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[Assistant] Men using women's rooms and saying, hey, it's okay, I'm a chick. Like, I don't know that any of that matters anyhow.


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[Assistant] For ballet? Is there a ballet championship?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm surprised too. I would think that they would be like using completely digital money anyway.


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[Assistant] I wonder if that's, they were so embarrassed about World War II and what Hitler did that they just tried, said, you know what, we ain't Germany anymore. We're just, we're divorcing that whole thing. I didn't know. I didn't know that either. And the rest of the world was like, nope, you're wearing that like a scarlet letter. You're Germany.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've seen it in a couple AP stories and I'm like, do we have a new country? What is this? And I asked upstairs, we checked in our AP log and they said, no, that's now Turkey. Okay.


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[Assistant] How are the drivers? Bull is very irritated by drivers, yes.


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[Assistant] Okay, so, let me fill you in on it. It's coming. So, in Cleveland, they voted in ADORA, which is a designated outdoor recreational area, or drinking outdoor recreational area. I'm not sure what the acronym stands for.


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[Assistant] We voted it in in Sandusky where I keep the boat and spend a lot of time.


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[Assistant] Up there, and what that, what that allows you to do is you have to have the cop.


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[Assistant] It's a, it's a cup that you uh, you buy one time and then I think you keep it or maybe with the first drink that you get you can keep it. But then you can walk.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think the bottle issue becomes broken bottle and glass on the streets. What about a can? Uhm, well, the cup idea is you can take this cup and have the establishment


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[Assistant] Put it, you know, you're not gonna hold a can. So yeaah, put some beer in this for me. So the cup idea shows that, uhm,


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[Assistant] You've, I'm not exactly sure why, but they know what it is, I guess. They want it in the cup.


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[Assistant] And think about how many times you've been in an area like 4th Street where there's a whole bunch of, and then Sandalski is the same way, there's a whole bunch of bars all in one area.


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[Assistant] And here's the thing, there's, there's layers, as you say, there's layers to this. You know, we, most people think a million dollars is a lot. And that billionaire, you hear billion, that's a lot.


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[Assistant] Here's the other thing too that we need to start doing because when we need social security it's gonna be gone.


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[Assistant] If you have a certain number of assets, I don't know, over a million dollars worth of assets, why are we still paying these people social security checks?


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[Assistant] And forget the fact that you had the credit card for a number of years and were paying on it regularly.


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[Assistant] Everything goes up. I mean, some of the credit cards we had were 9% or less. All of a sudden they're 24, 25%. Because, oh, well you're late, you've been late several months, so now we're going to raise your interest rate, and we're charging you the late fee, and now because the interest rate and the late fees have accumulated, now you're over your limit, so there's an over-the-limit fee.


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[Assistant] It wasn't that we didn't want to pay off our credit cards, it's we got to the point where it was impossible.


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[Assistant] They weren't willing to work with us unless they got all their money as fast as possible.


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[Assistant] One of the last times I talked with them and told them what our situation was, they said, well, we're canceling your card, and you are, in essence, blackballed with us for life. You'll never have a credit card from us ever again. Yesterday, received a solicitation from them, 0% for life, with up to a $50,000 line of credit.


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[Assistant] I stayed in a specific location. He lived, you know, four doors down and we had mutual people that we knew coming up through hip-hop. Shout out to Strong Arm Steady. Uhm, Cryin' Don, Mitchie, Slick, and Feel the Ag. Uhm, I used to be at their studio a lot. It's my good people, so I had a movement going. And, uh, we came together on a female rapper who was really dope.


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[Assistant] And uhm, I showed him some stuff that we had going. Uhm, he was fucking with it, and we kinda came together on her. Uhm, did a run, lot of trial and error, stepped back for a minute, reformed, and uh, shit, started the new, started the new ways.


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[Assistant] Who's a dope female rapper, uhm, Lamar Park, by the way, in Houston, Texas. Uhm. Sister love. Damn near introduced us to a lot of new shit. She, uhm, that's how I met Max O'Cream actually, through her. Oh really?


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[Assistant] Uhm, some odd future kids and just a gang of people. She was dope just ahead of her time and, uh, you know, we kind of stepped back and, uh, reformulated.


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[Assistant] Started a Tumblr, up and on one. Started putting up new artists that I found on Soundcloud. Playboy Cardi, Lil Yachty, when they put out their first songs. Kind of transpired to us doing a tape with Noisy, Young Niggas Rule the World. That's when I had Draco, and I found Greedo. Had Greedo's Never Been, debuted on that tape. And shit, that's kind of like the beginning of that wave.


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[Assistant] Draco already had his own thing going. Draco was incarcerated at the time. I reached out to him and he gave me exclusive songs and he gave me exclusive freestyles, life on the county on his first run. I just talked to Draco. But Greedo for sure. Greedo, Greedo, I found him.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but he gave me a song called Never Been that everybody knows now. Yeah. And, uh, shit, I put it on that tape and I debuted it on the tape and then shit, niggas was going crazy on that shit. So that was kind of like to me, that's really like kind of the beginning of this wave was that, that tape. Young Niggas Will the World, the one that has Draco on the front.


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[Assistant] For sure, definitely, uh, even in streetwear culture as well, you know, he did a lot and continues to do a lot. Definitely a mentor of mine as well. So, uh, shout out to Chase Infinite.


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[Assistant] He wanted to make sure that that was in the, uh, in the article too. That's right in the article on him. He wanted to make sure that they knew he had a Burberry shirt on and some Marzellas. So if they watching, make sure you put that shit in there.


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[Assistant] One thing I like about Jay is he has over 500 songs about fucking bitches and they literally do not repeat themselves whatsoever. I never heard a nigga talking about fucking hoes in so many different ways. Really? It's pretty incredible.


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[Assistant] Facts. One take brings a good party vibe, he brings a fun element, and he's giving you punchline after punchline after punchline. That's what I like about Jay. His energy.


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[Assistant] Actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin among 33 wealthy parents accused of bribing coaches and administrators to get their kids into elite universities. Loughlin and her husband Massimo Giannulli allegedly put up...


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[Assistant] Half a million dollars in exchange for getting their two daughters recruited to the USC crew team, even though they did not participate in crew.


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[Assistant] Oswald appeared at the, uh, Fort Worth, uh, Resident Agency.


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[Assistant] And was interviewed by, uh, two agents who happened to be in the office. Uh, this interview


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[Assistant] Did not turn out to be too successful because Oswald was in an aggressive, surly mood.


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[Assistant] And they finally broke the interview off after a little while.


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[Assistant] I think he was playing a game, he had the impression that he was smarter than everybody else and was going to sit back there and play this for all it was worth.


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[Assistant] And you know who the fuck it is.


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[Assistant] Put a lot of people in the hospital with severe illness.


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[Assistant] Nearly 40% were hospitalized, which is almost twice what we expect in the usual salmonella outbreak.


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[Assistant] Each little line is a Salmonella Heidelberg that has been sent in from state health departments.


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[Assistant] We wondered, where does this stop? How many are there going to be? This was really taking us into new territory.


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[Assistant] We were asking them, what kind of chicken did you eat? Where did you buy it? And what was it? Was it a whole carcass? Was it thighs or breasts? Why is that important?


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[Assistant] Most of the regulatory attention and most of the industry attention has been focused on


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[Assistant] Reducing contamination in the whole chicken carcasses.


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[Assistant] But there's been little attention focused on chicken parts.


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[Assistant] The effort has been focused in the industry and in the government regulations on the whole chicken, the whole chicken carcasses.


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[Assistant] He is a much better playmaker, athlete than I expected, uhm, tremendous leader.


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[Assistant] I think Elijah Moore is a tremendous addition. I like Tillman a lot as well for now and the long term.


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[Assistant] And then I went to Akron for just an eight month stretch before we built this relationship with the Browns and I scouted for the Browns for one year. So I got hired the day after they drafted Keller Winslow Jr. And I got fired the day after we selected Braylon Edwards, as did everybody in the building, you know, when Romeo took over. And then I was at ESPN for 10 years.


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[Assistant] Yo, Maurice! Yo, it's Shaken, motherfuck- Shit!


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[Assistant] We're just talking. Hey man, look, I got my tickets right here. No, no, keep your hands where I can see them.


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[Assistant] Hey man, I did not give you permission to take my picture.


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[Assistant] And every time, a lot of times you hear head coaches and players say, games is one that lost to the special teams. As you alluded to last year, we lost several games due to the special teams unit. So if he can end, end, end.


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[Assistant] I think they both of us, it's important, but I just know how dismal that unit was and I know how that unit cost us some games. So, the special teams cost us more games last year than Grand Delphi did. I actually agree with Earl next time, I really do.


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[Assistant] No, I was more concerned about the actual subject.


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[Assistant] Gentlemen, I'm going to have to interrupt you. Our time is almost up. Thank you very much and good evening.


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[Assistant] And so we talked about our travels, and uh, he told us that he'd been to Russia.


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[Assistant] Vicki needs to grieve. I know it's hard, but it's a good thing.


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[Assistant] I would bet that they would. I think these are two talented teams. I think that


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[Assistant] These teams are ready to take the next step. I would bet that they would. There's so much change from the NFL year to year.


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[Assistant] Earl, how about you? I think for me is, uh, I'm really excited to see Cedric Tillman. I know Cedric Tillman is a rookie and not much is expected of him, but we do know this is the NFL and we know an injury can happen just like that. And so just to see him get his feet wet, just to see him get acclimated being on an NFL field.


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[Assistant] I'm interested to see what he'll do out there because there might come a point in time in the season to where he is asked to contribute. We know how important the wide receiver position is in today's NFL and we know guys go down and they get hurt all the time.


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[Assistant] Well, me and you were two people who felt like the Browns should have went after DeAndre Hopkins. I think you kind of felt the same way. And so, you know, Amari Cooper has already dealt with a tweak.


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[Assistant] You know, injury is unknown. You know, we probably won't have Marquis Goodwin for this year. And so just, just looking at things like that, if Cedric Tillman can show something, you know, maybe we can get a bigger return on investment sooner than what we thought.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, Jalen Yarden is one of them. No, I get Boyle's point, but I think, you know,