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[Assistant] Many failures, but we have to continue. So I would say perseverance has been a virtue that's instilled by our faith.


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[Assistant] You can't be a part-time Christian and fight a full-time devil.


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[Assistant] I went to Amnion Pregnancy Center, uhm, it's in Upper Derby.


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[Assistant] The nurse did though say to me like, are you sure you don't want to just, you know, put it up for adoption? You know what I mean? Like she was kind of like pro-life.


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[Assistant] Listen, you know, you can come back with your boyfriend, we can talk about different options. We can do another ultrasound again and then he can look at the baby as well, maybe change his mind with that and just like...


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[Assistant] Nah, let me just get this over with. I'll deal with the depression or sadness later.


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[Assistant] I was a horrible person for deciding to actually go through with an abortion to kill a human being, even though it was only like an embryo.


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[Assistant] So, that was, that was sad, but I gotta go back to work.


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[Assistant] They in this all white juror. 60 people. Not one black person.


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[Assistant] We partied a lot together and we were both sent to prison, uhm, when I was like eight months pregnant with her.


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[Assistant] I didn't know for four months I was pregnant.


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[Assistant] I was still on birth control and I was drinking, like I was smoking, like living like the fast life.


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[Assistant] And lo and behold, there was a little heartbeat. And that's when they told me how far I was. Uhm, I was gonna go and abort her, but I was literally in the chair.


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[Assistant] So I just accepted that whatever was meant to be would be. So just one day at a time and I'm prepared for whatever can happen with her.


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[Assistant] What is that, don't they got, what is that, 260? What's that little? 270. 270. That loop is terrible.


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[Assistant] So I'm worried about him. I, I don't, look bro, there's, I was in a deep dive the other day. The problem with a lot of Americans is Americans be feeling like they are, oh, everything will be fine. That's the number, everything will be, nothing's gonna happen. Bro, you, it is not safe to go to like,


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[Assistant] Uhm, I-I-I think if the Players Association is listening...


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's one thing that you guys can do, right? You know, if you wanna give back some of the revenue, that's cool. If you wanna negotiate a different split, but you guys gotta do everything in your power to say, look, we're not playing no preseason games.


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[Assistant] Ask yourself this question. Do colleges play preseason games? They do not. Okay. That works out pretty well for them, right? No. Why not? Cause it's born. Oh, okay.


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[Assistant] They sat in rooms and you were quarantined. And they still got it done.


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[Assistant] The reason they run preseason games is because of money. It is just, is what it is. Because a lot of, if you buy season tickets, you gotta buy the preseason tickets. Is that true? Yep, I've never bought a ticket in my life. There's different, there's different cable companies that own the rights to show these, to get these preseason games. That's true. So they're not, that's the reason they do it. Now for me,


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[Assistant] They should come out and play week one. Who cares if the product is bad? Like, people crack me up with that. Well, you'll be watching defenses for two weeks then, three weeks, until they get better. But for me, I'm not gonna go out here, and I know it's kinda contradictory, because I just said like probably two or three days ago that I would play them more in the preseason.


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[Assistant] Like you said, when you get new information, I'm like, hold on, let me think about this. If your quarterback, say for instance, if, if Deshaun Watson got hurt and he was done for the season, where's everybody? Coach getting fired.


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[Assistant] Everybody. It's all done. Just because one person is out.


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[Assistant] I look at it this way, I always told people, you know, if I'm going to play, I'm going to get hurt in the game. I'm not about to get hurt in no practice, bro.


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[Assistant] And so these, or is this gonna be pre-season? Imma just let these backups play.


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[Assistant] I get it, here's the thing about football, you ain't never gonna be right no more. Like the thing is, let's get them ramped up. Well you don't tackle no more. They took tackling out because they realized


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[Assistant] Tackling is bad for you, right? Like that's the thing about football. It ain't basketball. It's like, okay, let's shoot jumpers and we can do light. Anytime you step on that football field,


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[Assistant] I just feel like, you know, like, you only have a certain amount of plays, you know, when you're playing football.


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[Assistant] You don't even really know how many plays that is. You just keep going to practice and doing it.


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[Assistant] You're going to have to figure out a way. I'm going to say it like this. If Joe Burrow had got hurt for the whole season, don't act like that would not have changed the way coaches is thinking. 100%. Like if he gets hurt for the season, let another quarterback go down. It's going to be people like now. See, that's the thing. And that's not necessarily


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[Assistant] What, we're not gonna practice no more? First of all, he had, he had the sleeve on, right? Evidently.


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[Assistant] Watch this, watch this, this is cold, this is cold right here. Say for instance,


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow was unfortunately out for the season, right?


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[Assistant] If all of a sudden two days later Lamar Jackson out for the season. This happened before actually. If I'm the, if I'm the Browns.


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[Assistant] They had a highly recruited quarterback. Right. From Texas.


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[Assistant] Okay, yeah. So they went and got Jimmy G. He was the second best pick.


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[Assistant] Sucks for the Bengals. The way I come at it is, all is fair in love and war. Yo, you terrible. So, you know, I like Gerburo. I know his pops. He's from Athens. He was there as a ball boy for OU.


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[Assistant] As he was getting older, he was like, uh, in high school when my brother was playing. So he, there was like, hey man, Joe Burrows out here, Coach Burrows kid is all America. I said, where? Doing what? And he was their real deal. But here's my thing. Uhm, a lot of people won't, won't admit this, but when you trying to play somebody,


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[Assistant] Like, let's be clear, you want them out of the game. Like, as a defensive lineman, I'm programmed to get you up out of the game. Now listen, I don't want to tear your ACLs or make you paralyzed or anything.


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[Assistant] But if I hit you and you just gotta go out the game, we, mission accomplished. We, we need to get that football back and we need to, we need to do whatever we can to make sure we minimize his skill set.


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[Assistant] Now for me, a lot of people say, oh, you never want to see anybody hurt. Well, listen, bro, I don't know if y'all been in the trenches.


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[Assistant] And cry for me, when I had 17 surgeries and they cut me below my ankles and waist and I'm up there getting tossed up like a cheap floozy. You didn't have good technique on how to kill it.


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[Assistant] This is what I'm- The Browns will be favored. Yeah, one and a half. By one and a half. But the crazy thing about the NFL, this is why it's the best league in the world. Trevor Simeon.


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[Assistant] I remember, I'm old enough to remember when Trevor Simeon- Eat the brown.


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[Assistant] Then I've seen the Browns play around and mess around. This is last year when they played the Bengals. They said, well, you know what, you know, they had all their receivers out. So that kind of threw us for a curve. I said, bro, so we didn't know what to do. We didn't have a game plan. I don't care who shows up.


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[Assistant] Bro, it's dumb. There's a lot, it's bad because


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[Assistant] I think participation is down. Now, before you used to have guys that you used to play with.


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[Assistant] And those guys may not went to college, but they still played ball in high school.


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[Assistant] And so I think there's a lot less people that have been indoctrinated to the game and a lot more people are just casual fans who watch their team and watch the game. I think one of the things that you say that is spot on is there's a lot of people who overestimate


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[Assistant] Who's in your camp, who's on your team, because you're not watching the Raiders or you're not seeing the Vikings. Like, I can't go into the game and be like, oh my god, these guys are trash. And you're like, well hold on.


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[Assistant] There's little tertiary players like, uh, uh, Donovan Peoples Jones or, or, or a third tackle that you know that you've been watching, but you don't get the same feel for other, other teams. So you kind of off base. It's just like a guessing game a little bit.


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[Assistant] He was like, that is not good. Do you know the reason I'm yelling at you right now? Spirit fingers. It's because you're gonna fall. If you're gonna believe in yourself, you have to follow through with the flip. You can't stop in midair. You're gonna hurt yourself. And she was like, daddy.


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[Assistant] Shout out to the people that was keeping it real. Yeah. Hey, if you in the Super Bowl, I'ma just give you an example. This is the reason I got a PhD in catching food slipping. Yeah.


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[Assistant] That's a lie. He cares more than everybody else. He said, when he said that. He got rabbit ears. Really? When did you not say that?


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[Assistant] I used to like Baker Mayfield. He's not good anymore. I used to, I used to sit up there and wave pom poms. Now I feel guilty about it. Just let it be. Stop reminding me about that.


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[Assistant] Anthony, Anthony, uh, if, if, we'll do, can we do a telethon and you can do a super chat. We'll start at $10 for you to say mean tweets to bulls. We want to see how, I should read that.


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[Assistant] I think his injury is more serious than Anthony Walker. So. Well, he just came later than Anthony Walker. Yeaah. So he might not be able to get on the field as quickly. Uhm, but nah, he's a, he's a big part of it. Uhm, because we gonna come back and eviscerate them if they don't.


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[Assistant] I think, I think the problem that I got is even with the linebackers, even when they, they is clean.


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[Assistant] He's like really good, but when he's locked in, he just, he, I said, bro, the guard is right there. You see where the ball going. What are you still standing there for? He took three false steps and got blocked in the same spot. He was in. I said, I don't know what they're going to do. It was a game against, don't you remember?


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[Assistant] Your alignment, your, your, your man that you're over, your key tells you where the ball is. You don't look for the ball, you know what I'm saying? So, there's times when, when his key is the guard, the guard is already


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[Assistant] Hey, you know what's cool? Hopefully he get that, he get that, uh, that switching leagues little bump. You know they be switching leagues and they be like, oh, we don't know what this guy.


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[Assistant] Can you name, besides Tom Cambiati and R.A. Dickie, two other knuckleball pitchers? Who's the first one you said? Tom Cambiati.


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[Assistant] Stop playing behind- Hey, I'm gonna start calling Anthony Rajagul.


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[Assistant] You know, boy, it's just, to me, it's just like, when I look at the roster, there's no, there's no stars. Yeah, I mean, that's, that goes without saying. And Josh Naylor's having a star.


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[Assistant] It's not a- No. Especially at the positions that you want stars. Yeah. Like, you're shortstop, you're center fielder. Uhm, you don't have- Oh, I'm interested to see your trades, dude. They just don't have-


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[Assistant] It's just like the pop. If you ain't gonna have no pop with the veterans, I just play all the young guys and see how far they can get. That's right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this, he might be- So there's no comparison, we've never seen anybody like it. And you know what's crazy is because...


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[Assistant] Yeaah. To me, it's weird because he's doing all this, he's pitching and he's hitting. It's just like... Yea, you've never seen him like this. It's like... There's nothing he can't do. I mean, he's over a lot of guys. There's nothing he can't do. That's crazy.


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[Assistant] He's one of those players that, uh, that are actually underpaid.


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[Assistant] Uhm, like when people saw about it, they look at Lebron. Lebron is actually, you know, there was no salary cap.


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[Assistant] I- I'll give you that. If you- LeBron had three different errors, right? And this is why it's funny when you talk about who's the best. LeBron had three different errors where he was doing it different ways. Like, and was still the best player. Like, even when you look at his leg- his stats- his stats on the Lakers are-


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[Assistant] He's averaging, he averages multiple. He's averaging 30 points a game. And he's 40. He averages 10 assists a game like a couple years. It's like, it's so crazy the fact that he has these different ways he played. And if you go back and watch, like, like the first iteration, uh, the Lebron, Cavs-Lebron,


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[Assistant] I'm talking, that's the first Cavs version, the 66 win Cav, like, where they had nobody. Then they, then the second version was the Heat version, which I think- The villain role. He was, he was, he was the villain, uh, villain Batman. And he had the best teammate, and he never played with great teammates like that. Yea, it was crazy. And then he came back to Cleveland,


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[Assistant] And it was like the, the kinda like, he was still athletic, he still had the grown man game.


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[Assistant] But that level, his IQ was just crazy. Right, and he learned how to close. And remember, remember the playoffs, his best, his best playoffs to me were in 2018 when, after they got rid of D Wade and Rose and all those other guys.


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[Assistant] Lebron was just like, he was hitting all them buzzer beaters against the Raptors and against the Pacers and he closed the Celtics out on game seven. Like it was just crazy.


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[Assistant] It's fights for all the belts, apparently. I watch Bernard Hopkins, I watch Roy Jones Jr., and the only small dude I'm gonna watch is Mayweather. You're not gonna watch Jervonte Davis? I watched him at the Little Baby concert.


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[Assistant] We was watching people, we was watching people that was in the, like, the greatest of all time. Like, Sugar Ray Leonard, right? Like, you, like, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,


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[Assistant] We talking Monday. We said, well, I'll be on the show Monday. They said, what is, what is bulls move going to be like on Monday? I'm like, it all depends on how they take it.


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[Assistant] So you, so you would be, actually, actually, actually you'd be less happy than we would. Like if y'all lost.


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[Assistant] Uh, you would be like, okay, you have some recent success to point to. But if we lost, we gonna be in here hot.


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[Assistant] Alright, for a million bucks, would you take, would you take a body punch for Mike Tyson?


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[Assistant] Today? Right now. Mike Tyson today? Yes. For a million?


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[Assistant] I do anything. Yes. So would you let him hit you in your face? I could die though. Bare knuckles. For how much? A million.


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[Assistant] I can't do that. I'll take the stomach punch for a million. Why? See, this is a thing I never, I only know all my boxing from Fight Night. That's it. I don't know nothing else besides Fight Night.


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[Assistant] You know Sean, when I look at it, you know, and this is so funny, I remember growing up,


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[Assistant] And uhm, you grow up and I remember I had cousins who live in the hood and that, you know, to me anytime there was a fight.


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[Assistant] Why do you think, I got a couple, you know, theories, like it's like, you know, when you take a look at


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[Assistant] So some people, some people aren't even gonna see, have not seen one of their fights and build up to that. So, uh, you know, what do you think is, is one of the main reasons that boxing, I won't say it's stagnant, but it needs to, you know, needs fights like this to keep going.


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[Assistant] Do you think they promote enough? Not in the sense of promoters, like, I think one of the big things with social media is like, you know, that's why you see a Jake Paul or some of these other guys that are just on TikTok.


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[Assistant] Like, you know, we get an opportunity now where we're closer than ever to our athletes. And we be wanting to see, alright, what you're doing, how you moving, what's your next fight with your thought process. Do you think there's enough people self promoting themselves and indoctrinating and showing people, a new generation, this is what we about?


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[Assistant] Now, you know, we talk about it all the time, you know, from the perspective of different sports, you know, you know, I played in college, Tyvis played in the pros.


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[Assistant] Thank you. It's nice to be recognized. That's actually exactly why the sheriff in Marion County banned all of his officers from wearing masks. Excuse me? Yeah, but one of the cities in the county has a mask mandate.


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[Assistant] Y'all best get some rest, cause there ain't gonna be much for you tomorrow. You're gonna be working hard.


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[Assistant] I didn't expect, I had no expectations. It was like, we had nothing to do on Saturday night, this place gave us a venue.


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[Assistant] So we're like, hey, you know what, let's just ask a bunch of our friends if they want to get together and smoke. Yeah. They're like, oh, you having a party? I'm like, yeah, I'm having a party. It does look like a pretty good party. No, man, it's just, let's just get together and smoke. You know what I mean? Let's just like old school, like in your mom's basement kind of shit.


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[Assistant] Well, it's a Saturday night, and I feel like everyone wants to go, like, you can go to Avenue, you can go to a cooking club, you can go to a towel group, you can do all this shit, and you wanna come smoke out with me?


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[Assistant] Alright, so five year old Josh, a little five year old Josh. My dad, uh, used to do magic tricks with his rolling paper. I'm lucky enough my dad was a roller. You know what I mean? Wow, okay. Son of a smoker.


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[Assistant] And uhm, we'd be around the table during the holidays in New York City and he would take out his rolling paper and he would light it on fire and throw it up in the air.


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[Assistant] And it would just drop down, no ash, it would just vanish. Right. Now at five, you gotta bring yourself back to that five year old mindset. That's magic. Magic trick, yea. Right. Wow. It's the only magic trick he knew. Yea. And it brought me right in and I fell in love with rolling papers at the age of five.


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[Assistant] So with that in your head, by the way, I've learned you really get the shit implanted young. If someone implants something to you and you were like five, seven years old, you're stuck with that. You're getting rid of that.


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[Assistant] I was born in New York City. In the city? In the city. In Manhattan? Yep. Wow. Where exactly? I used to live out there. Okay, now from when I was little little, there's an argument with my dad and I know he's got it reversed. I know from what I can tell, I was born on East 12th street where I lived down on East 12th. Okay. And then we moved up to East End Avenue.


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[Assistant] Uh, then from there, when I got, I think about seven or so, we moved out to Long Island for about...


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[Assistant] Because there's gonna be a lot of broken ankles. That's the worst part. New York City, NYPD, that's one thing. It's those dudes in green that fuck with you more than anything man. Right, but they can't give you a ticket.


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[Assistant] They also, they just, they're real serious about shit. They busted me for electric skateboarding through one of the parks one of the days.


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[Assistant] But I did, it was like uhm, I probably was about 13 years old, some kids bought mitzvah or bar mitzvah or something like that when I first got introduced to it. I didn't care about it, I just, I loved the social aspect of it, always, it was always the social aspect. Right. My whole thing with smoking was always, any kind of smoking is the social aspect.


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[Assistant] I really like it that we all do this shit in circles. You know? But alright, let me bring you back to rolling papers. Okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and you categorize them. And as you get better at it, you categorize them by manufacturer, where they were made and all that stuff. So you actually pick up a whole bunch of knowledge when you're a collector. Right. And you, it's on the road to mastery.


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[Assistant] Smoking again, all of that. Like when I, when I would smoke with my friends as we got into the high school years and stuff, we're all partying our fucking nuts off and doing that kind of thing until I got thrown out. And it was, my friends always cared about what we were smoking. They were all focused on the material, where it came from, everything about it, the aspects of it. And I really didn't care.


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[Assistant] I fell in love and then I had a dream of opening my own head shop. It wasn't having my own brand of papers. Right. It was just like, Oh my God, imagine if I had a store like that.


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[Assistant] I still do, man. Still good for the vibes. Yea, yea, it totally is. I love that stuff. I just put out a product with a UV light, which is basically a black light, because you can see things when you look under black light that you can't see under a...


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[Assistant] And, or even on the paper, or in the gum. I try to get people to look at the gum to realize why is your gum glowing under blacklight? It's not supposed to. And I'm trying to teach everyone to see what I see, which is part of what I do. It's like, if you knew what I knew, you would understand. So I'm like, okay, if I teach people, if I show them, if I do videos on Instagram, jumping around and show them, look at this!


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[Assistant] I used to have a smoke shop. So for me I'm like, dude, go to your local smoke shop and buy it. You don't gotta buy it online. You don't gotta buy it from my e-commerce site that I don't have.


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[Assistant] Okay, here's one thing we do have. At rawfoundation.com, which is our foundation site where we raise money for lots of water wells in Ethiopia and all the humanitarian work that we do.


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[Assistant] I have a place where you can go in there and buy things and 100%, let's say you went in there and you bought this tray.


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[Assistant] Like, it's the PayPal thing, it goes directly to them, you get a receipt, a donation receipt from Wine to Water, and I just send you the tray for free. Right. Cause I want to make the donation anyway, so I'll just, I'll just give this to you, you donate to those guys.


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[Assistant] It's a wild way of doing things, but really I do no online sales. Really? I'll just give you some shit, but just make these donations for me because if you don't make it then I have to make it and I'd rather have you make it. I want to bring you in.


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[Assistant] I don't know. Yea, all my other, all of my competitors realistically one way or another have their own online stores and that kind of thing.


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[Assistant] Sorry, it's not that I own anything, but in just my particular industry compared to BMX, you take great risk when you have a real head shop. Great risk. I had the feds come in on me, kick the door in, those fucking helmets on, you know what I mean? Stormtrooper helmets, holding me down with a machine gun to my head, overselling a bong to the daughter of the head of U.S. Customs Service and Special Agent in Charge.


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[Assistant] Like most people are inspired by making money. I was inspired by not becoming an accountant because like my life had set me up and everyone always told me, Oh my God, you're so good with numbers. You should be an accountant. And like my inspiration was, I learned real fast that I hated accounting and all I wanted to do is not be an accountant, not be normal and find a way to be happy. So it was, how do I get out of this? How do I be free?


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[Assistant] And I always wanted to open a head shop. So while I was still in college at the University of Florida in Gainesville, I did like a class project where you had to open up a local business. And I opened up a fake head shop because it was not a good one in town.


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[Assistant] And it was such a good project and everybody loved it so much and I'd already done so much of the legwork. I just went ahead and did it. I sold everything I had except for this piece of shit $500 van and a Harley that I built myself. Right. And I opened up this tiny little fucking head shop. How much money did you save up? About 10 G's. Really? Yea. So what was your rent? Oh, about $450 a month. Okay.


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[Assistant] No, on like the main street near the university, a rundown store where the front of the building was slightly tilted from partially falling down.


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[Assistant] So what I did was I took a drive down to the closest local head shop, which is pretty fucking far away.


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[Assistant] And behind the counter, I was lucky enough with a very pretty girl and I flirted with her until I somehow convinced her to give me a stack of catalogs. And she did.


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[Assistant] I walked out of there and I didn't, couldn't even afford a cell phone back then. So I went out there and I hit the pay phone and I called the first catalog number and here's a cute connect, right? First company I called was a company called Adam's Apple. I remember the number by heart and I called them and I get the guy on the phone. I get my rep, I'm talking to him explaining I want to open up my own store.


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[Assistant] And he's like, I got you and anything you need, just call me. I've got so many friends in the industry. Whatever you need to find, just hit me up. All right, cool. That guy's name was Rick Rock. Maybe 15 years later, guess who I ended up hiring?


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[Assistant] Yeah. So I opened up this little tiny fucking head shop, having no idea what I'm doing and


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[Assistant] When I was a kid I read Tom Sawyer and for some reason it really stuck to me and I always remembered his white picket fence thing, right? So I don't know what I'm doing. You got to admit, first thing, I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. Right. So people would walk in and they would say, Hey man, are you going to carry, let's say, dugouts?


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[Assistant] So the store mimicked what the town wanted. Like I didn't really build a store. I put in the shit that I wanted, but everything else was dude walking in saying, are you going to carry this? Yes. Are you going to carry this? Yes. Yes. Yes. Come back in two weeks. And so the store was built by the community. And so the store fucking flourished.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and the store did great, opened another and another and I started making actual money.


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[Assistant] But one of my stores apparently sold that bong, the bong of death. And I think she was 18, but it didn't matter. It wasn't her fault for buying the bong, it was my store's fault for selling it. So him and his friends came in full, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] Oh, no, no, no, they, they, they, I got arrested and dieted the whole fucking thing. But for what? For selling? For selling drug paraphernalia.


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[Assistant] And now bongs are legal again. They were, they were legal, then they were illegal and now they're legal again, supposedly. I'm not a fucking lawyer, but it's the weirdest thing. Has to do with community standards and now, uh, there's medical marijuana in Florida. So technically a bong would be legal again. It's fucking, it's such a convoluted thing.


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[Assistant] But one of the problems with law enforcement is that it's run by people, humans, just like me and you.


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[Assistant] And so we have feelings, we have emotions, and when your daughter buys a bong, it's not her fault, it's the dude who sold it to her.


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[Assistant] So I finally got up to six stores and it was really a lot of fun. I was really happy with my stores. Cause again, I'm connecting with everybody who walks in the door. I'm talking to them. I had my own little bong factory.


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[Assistant] Uh, when I first, when I first opened that first door, I couldn't even afford rent, right? So I was living in my friend's storage shed, and I would have to jump over the lawnmower to get to bed every night. I'm still friends with that dude too, and I would take care of him.


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[Assistant] Uh, in the three car garage below. By the way, I stopped for a moment because I gotta be real careful, I've learned. I have to say... BONG!


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[Assistant] Cause one time when I was fucked with by customs when I was coming back into the country, they're like, do you have any felony record? I'm like, yeah, I used to sell bongs and they got like bombs. I'm like, oh shit, no, no, no, no, no, bongs.


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[Assistant] One could be a lot worse. So, um, I don't even know where we were at, man. It's the problem with smoking too much.


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[Assistant] Yes, I was selling Vong's. I was making them. I was making them down in this little garage apartment I had, and we could make anything you wanted. So Adam, you walk into my store, and I talk to you for a minute or two, and if I have what you want on the shelf, there it is. If not, I might be, and you're telling me how you smoke, and I'm asking lots of questions, and we're interacting, and I figure out,


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[Assistant] And you come back and there it is, there's your pipe and you walk away with it and you're happy as fuck and I'm happy as fuck and everything worked out great. Right. And we also started making like pre-rolls, not empty pre-rolls. This is the... The cones. Yea, this is the earliest, even like pre-cones. They were cones, but we used to call them tulips. Oh, okay. Lots of people couldn't roll.


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[Assistant] So we took this old, this cigar display and we'd fill it one by one. It had like a bunch of slots on top with these things we call tulips, two pieces of rolling paper together. You'd open up the top, you'd cut them so they kind of made little


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[Assistant] Leaves on top and it was completely conical because we tried stuffing a straight one. It doesn't stuff, but conical would work. And plus I knew a lot about cigars by that point and we knew the conical cigars smoke better, which is a whole nother theory that I try to teach everyone, explain to them the theory of the cone.


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[Assistant] It had, you know what I'm gonna explain it? Sure. Okay. So when you're smoking, there is,


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[Assistant] Resonation. And it's not just a theory of resonation, it actually happens. Whatever you're smoking, any plant, it's gonna get stronger because the initial puff


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[Assistant] But you burn less and you're burning less and less, you get to the doubling point, which means now you have twice as much flavor, but you're burning half as much material and the flavor should be the same at that point in the middle as it is at the top.


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[Assistant] Yeah, everybody's different. Every smoker, you can smoke with a billion people and each one of them are going to be different because we're all, we're humans. You know what I mean? We have more...


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[Assistant] Synapses in our brains and our stars in the universe, we are completely unique. So the way that you smoke like that and the way that you taste it and the way you experience it and enjoy it is different than everybody else.


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[Assistant] So I have to kind of create a zillion different products in order to make the right one for you and for everybody else, but the cone overall is the best way to smoke.


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[Assistant] When I do it right, when I do it all right, I'm right back to like fucking 15 year old Josh.


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[Assistant] I'm happy with his friends and laughing like, oh my god, they're gonna love this. Oh my god, they're gonna love this. Oh my god, they're gonna fucking love this. And then I put it out, like I've got things that are coming in the next year and I can't wait to put them out because I know that it's gonna give so many people that experience and once they have it, I can feel it. Like I get high off of them.


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[Assistant] Right. You know what I mean? Like I know, I know when I got it right and I made it better for somebody and they get to really enjoy it and I feel it. Like when you smoke the right cone or the right paper or what it is, I'm looking at you do it and I see you enjoy it. I feel it. I see you writing to me about it. All the shit. I get high as fuck.


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[Assistant] I don't want to say through commerce or product. The minute we say that, we're already distancing. I do want to better their lives. That's like what a lot of the humanitarian work we do is about. I definitely want to leave a positive mark on the environment, on the world compared to where I took it from. When we start here, I want to leave it here.


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[Assistant] Yeah. But in my mind, I still am just working for that one guy. That one dude walks into my store. Now it's not a store. Sure. Now he's talking to me on social. He runs into me on the street or he comes to one of the events that I'm hosting or something. Who knows? And we talk and we smoke together from, if I have time, we smoke together and he gives me some piece of advice and I look at him and I'm like, Oh,


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[Assistant] Really? Because I know that if you smoke that way, and if I need to make this for you to make your life better, there's probably another couple million people out there that need that same improvement. Definitely. So I gotta do it for them too. You just look at it, but it's still just for him, but then I know there's a whole bunch of others that want it too. And then there are ones I make for myself, where I realize that, oh, this would be so much easier for me.


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[Assistant] But later on, when we roll, when you're rolling, I'm looking at you. I'm studying what you're doing. And then I'm thinking to myself half the time, like, why is he doing it that way?


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[Assistant] Huh. And then sometimes an idea will pop in my head, I bet I could make something that would, and then comes forth a product.


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[Assistant] I would have stayed with those stores till the end of time. I'd still be sitting there. Instead of sitting here with you, I'd be behind my counter in Gainesville, Florida interacting with every dude that walks in the door. I was happy. Why would I stop?


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[Assistant] We closed the stores. They didn't go bankrupt. We closed the stores. I sold everything I could and just got out of it. I held onto one little shop in Madison, Wisconsin for a little bit that I could convert and make it more conservative to appease their guidelines. But what they did is they also taught me a lot of stuff. Ironically, they taught me that


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[Assistant] In their opinion, all rolling papers are legal. Even these ones that had leaves all over them. They didn't give a shit. Nope, that's legal. It's a paper that was a multi-use product. They're bongs. Those are illegal as fuck. Right. And so they pushed me ironically into the paper business. They gave me back all my papers, every last one and said, you can sell these.


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[Assistant] So now I'm kicked out of my stores basically and it's time to get out of Gainesville, Florida. They made it clear. Get the fuck out of here, kid.


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[Assistant] And so I did. Which desert? Phoenix Arizona.


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[Assistant] Growing up in New York City, you can't even imagine the expanse of that. You've got BMX, I had motorcycle dirt bike things, you need to ride them on the street and get in trouble and try to outrun the cops. Right.


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[Assistant] Thought of these people with Jeff Ward jumping over fucking mountains in the desert. I couldn't even fucking fathom that shit. They're like, oh, we're moving out to the desert. If I'm going to move, we're going out to Arizona. Right.


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[Assistant] Also, Arizona, people don't know this, was the capital of, at the time, making bongs. That's where they all were, the graphics guys. Really? In the 90s? Yea, the original color changing glass pipes were all invented out there. Interesting. I don't know why it was Arizona, but that was, that was the hub where all the cool stuff that we still use today was all originally created.


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[Assistant] I set up a little tiny warehouse, 2500 square feet. I started, uhm, I started a company called...


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[Assistant] Herbal bar industries, right? And I, when I had my head shops, I knew that


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[Assistant] I made this display of all these smokable herbs, like not, I couldn't sell weed, but even back then you could sell bulk tobacco, Damiana, mugwort, all these different herbs that would give people a little bit of effects on each one of them. And you could blend them and make all this cool stuff. So I thought, oh, I'll make a, I'll make a product.


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[Assistant] It's called the Herbal Bar for stores, and I'll make herbal cigarettes that people can smoke, and I'll make all this cool stuff, and I'll also sell all my papers, and I'll go into all of this stuff.


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[Assistant] All this other stuff didn't really sell. But they loved my papers. And I, when I had my head shop, I gotta bring you back for a second.


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[Assistant] What I learned was if I was selling a pack of zigzags, right? I'd buy it for a buck. Yeah, I have to get, that's nothing wrong with zigzags.


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[Assistant] So I'd get this pack of zigzag orange and maybe buy it for a buck and have to sell it for like a buck thirty. So I'm making thirty cents because there's a convenience store across the street selling it for a buck thirty. And you're not really making any real money as a retailer. Maybe a buck twenty-five even because he's going to lower his price and blah blah blah. So I learned though on my collector papers, the special ones,


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[Assistant] I could charge anything I wanted, nobody cared, because the paper was so much better, tasted better, it rolled better, and was so much more unique of an experience, they didn't mind. And the people in Europe were practically giving the stuff away because it was so old and they couldn't sell it over there.


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[Assistant] So I could, I would bring it in, it might cost me 10 cents and I would still sell it for the same buck 25. And the person who bought it was much happier.


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[Assistant] So now I'm winning, and the consumer's winning. The only person who's losing is fucking zigzag. Right. So, started going, I was like, I saw it. You know, I was like, oh yeah.


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[Assistant] And I'd always dreamed of bringing back certain papers. I gotta explain more of that, more of that.


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[Assistant] As I'm doing this trading business now of bringing over these old papers from Europe and I'm setting up this whole thing and I have herbal bar industries and I start selling in bulk now those rolling papers, the old ones from Europe, these beautiful old papers, any which one I could get.


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[Assistant] Even if that dude had 40 boxes or some leftover, I'll buy it. I got a hundred of this. I'll buy it. I got a thousand boxes of a paper called El Ray. Do you want it? Like bring it over.


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[Assistant] Man, it just, it basically morphed into a business. And then one day I get a call from one of the collectors who says a man named Jose Emilio is coming to America, you should go meet with him.


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[Assistant] And I was like, oh yea, yea, he restarted, essentially restarted, the oldest rolling paper factory in the world. It's connected to the originals in El Coy, Spain. And he's remaking the old papers. All he has are the old machines. He has nobody to sell his paper. You should meet with him, Josh. I was like, cool, of course I'll meet with him.


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[Assistant] So I sit down with this old Spanish man and he's a beautiful man, like a true man. And the whole meeting he takes one look at me and I'm young.


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[Assistant] The whole meeting he has his arms crossed like this and he's sneering down on me. And my Spanish is terrible. I can speak it, but it's fucking terrible.


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[Assistant] And he's, I'm doing my best to communicate with him, and he finally turns to me and says to me in broken Spanish English, Josh, why do you even care about paper?


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[Assistant] Right? I look at him, and I tell him the story of my dad and the Marfileros when I was a kid.


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[Assistant] And he lights up and stands up and proclaims, Josh, I made Marfila Rose. My father made my Fila Rose. My grandfather, my great grandfather, my wife's side, they all made my Fila Rose. We must make this again. I said, yes, we'll definitely make it again.


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[Assistant] And that's where it all started. We couldn't call it Marfiel Arroz because the trademarks were taken when the old factory was bankrupted by this big bad company that we're not allowed to mention.


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[Assistant] We, we named it elements after the elements that are used to make the paper.


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[Assistant] And Elements is really just a new version of My Feel the Rose. And Elements did well. It didn't do great, but it did well. It developed a loyal following. The people who really smoke liked it a lot. And then we had these old machines, Jose Emilio, that could make flavored papers and he didn't know how to market them really. So I named them Juicy Jays after a nickname I got in high school.


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[Assistant] And they did fucking great. You didn't realize I made UCJ. See, I made all this old stuff.


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[Assistant] He says that he got it on his own. He says he got it on his own. I'm like, no, man. He's like, no, I've been with three, six mafia. And he starts mentioning yours to me. I'm like, yeah, you weren't called juicy J. Then you were called juicy J. I show him when and he gets mad. No, man, I didn't. I'm like, all right, that's cool.


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[Assistant] Okay, what I learned as I started studying paper and really starting to actually study paper and the science behind it was that at some point, and I won't tell you the whole story why because it'll get me in trouble,


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[Assistant] Most rolling papers and cigarette papers began adding chalk. Alright, it's a white powdery substance like chalk, chalk, chalkboard, that kind of thing. Uhm, because that way when it burns down, it leaves a white ash.


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[Assistant] Right now we are getting obsessed as smokers with white ash, which scares me. Yeah, but I don't, cause I don't want to go back and end up having people don't even realize half the time they might be adding something in order to create a white ash. But this happened also. We, we humans repeat ourselves over and over again. This is what we do, man, you know? So,


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[Assistant] Well I did not like the thought of smoking chalk, especially as materials got better, and we're smoking stuff now that you want to taste it.


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[Assistant] Chalk to me, just in my personal opinion, has a little bit of a flavor changing thing, especially it interrupts the way that I want to receive my terps. I'm trying to think of a real nice way to put it that can't get me sued. You know what I mean? Terps. So I don't like chalk. I don't like smoking chalk personally. There's nothing wrong with it.


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[Assistant] People smoke chalk all the time and some people might even really enjoy it and that's okay. Just me, no. So I wanted to make paper without chalk in it. I wanted to bring it back to the natural way, the old way of making paper. This long fiber old fucking paper instead of the new hyper-processed homogenized stuff that was very prevalent. Right.


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[Assistant] Now one thing happened back to my stores, and I'm so lucky to have been in those stores, right? Back in 93, a dude walks in, doing the thing I was telling you about before, and he says, oh my god, great, you have a smoke shop, are you gonna carry? And then he says a certain brand of natural cigarettes that we all know very well, and it was not popular back then.


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[Assistant] And I said, sure, it'll be here in two weeks. And I hit the phones, found it, brought it in for him. Now at this point, I already know paper. I'd been studying it when I was in high school. I studied it when I was in college. I wrote little papers things on papers, you know?


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[Assistant] Box comes in, we open up a pack, he says to me, hey Josh, thank you so much for getting it for me, no prob- let me give you one. I'm like cool. He gives me- pulls one out. In my mind, cause he's talking on and on and on about how natural this shit is, I'm assuming it's gonna be this beautiful natural paper.


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[Assistant] Just assuming that it's already out there. We assume that our forefathers, the people that came before us, had done the right thing. And he pulls out a regular, bright fucking white cigarette. It could have been a fucking Marlboro. The same thing. And I'm looking at that and I'm like, that ain't natural, man. At least not what I consider natural.


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[Assistant] And I'm looking at it and I was really shocked and like dismayed, like what the fuck is that? And he gave it to me and I smoked it, maybe something different and it tasted the same as any other cigarette to me. And he walked out of that store and right then was when I was like,


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[Assistant] Oh my god. I thought about my whole collection, all the knowledge I had of paper and everything else. Nobody's really made


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[Assistant] A really good natural rolling paper. It hasn't been something that's been actually really brought out.


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[Assistant] I don't have much money at the time. I'm a little shop owner in Gainesville, Florida, but I'm going to find a way to fucking do this. So I held on to that idea. Now we go back forward. Now I've made elements. I've made Juicy J's. I've also made realistically probably a couple dozen other brands that failed or didn't really or fizzled or didn't really move.


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[Assistant] Make all these other papers, you learn from each one. You learn from every mistake, just like you and everybody who ever listens to this. I learn more from my mistakes than I do from any of my successes. Right.


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[Assistant] So, I learned and learned and learned and learned and learned and learned, and I was ready to make RAW. And I now had enough clout with the factories that I could convince them to make it. So I went and did my tour of Europe, went to visit a bunch of people, tried to convince them to make the, what I needed, the base materials for RAW, but I heard I knew the name back then.


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[Assistant] No. No. One group laughed at me and in Catalan told me that no one will want to smoke a paper bag.


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[Assistant] They're laughing at a kid. They don't, they think I'm a moron. Nothing's changed. The rolling paper industry is incredibly stagnant. Not a single really successful brand has been launched since long before you and I were born.


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[Assistant] They're thinking back, nah, it doesn't change. Everything's the same. You want no change? No, go away.


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[Assistant] It's very, you know, you set your machines, you gotta invest all this money. You also don't want change, but I represent change. So I kept wanting to make this paper.


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[Assistant] I thought about it, how am I going to get it done? I thought, let me try a different approach. I went back to the smallest of all the factories and said to them, hey, if I ordered a million tons, you would make it for me, right? And they said, yes, of course. I said, all right, so there is a number.


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[Assistant] What's the realistic number I have to promise you in order to get this paper made?


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[Assistant] And they gave me a number that was fucking high. It was scary as fuck. We argued about it, but that was the number. I didn't sleep for a couple weeks as I sat there. Do I do it? Do I do it? Do I do it? Do I do it? I gotta risk everything again. Really? Everything? Eventually I, due to lack of sleep, I said fuck it.


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[Assistant] Did it, invested it all, brought the giant reams of this paper to Alcoi, and we made RAW. We launched it, it did not immediately succeed.


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[Assistant] You leave the circle and maybe a couple of you guys go and you buy a pack because it tastes so much better than that 90s paper you were smoking before. And you guys enjoy it and they have another circle and then they have another circle and circle and circle and circle and it goes on and on like that until little by little, raw becomes this fucking phenomenal thing.


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[Assistant] Oh god, it was a, he had to, I had to get money to get courage, knowledge, understanding. I had to make all those failures before I could finally do it.


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[Assistant] You didn't know what it was. And in my mind, I didn't make it, what I didn't, again, I couldn't completely understand the world market. I'm still small. So I'm picturing when I'm making it.


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[Assistant] My smoker friends, my hippie friends, that blonde girl with dreads.


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[Assistant] You don't know who my dudes I hang out with. I'm picturing them. I'm like, oh, I know they'll love it. And I'm vegan by this point, so I make the paper vegan. And I make, I actually even write on the paper for the first time. It's a vegan paper. Not all papers are vegan, so it's a thing.


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[Assistant] And to the, and when I originally made it, I wasn't making it for everybody. I was making it for like the real smokers, the people who really give a fuck about what they're smoking and they want to taste it and they want to bring it to an extreme level. And they would appreciate it. Whereas I knew most people would probably just want to stay with their old white stuff.


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[Assistant] But I knew that, I knew those people, like I knew, I understood this one particular segment, this real tiny niche, that would fucking love it, and I made it for them.


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[Assistant] So it's different than what if I might've done if I was trying to make a mass market paper, but if I was trying to mass market paper, I probably would have fucking failed. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] I gave it away to everybody because I knew that if I just got it out there, it was so fucking good. Like, I know paper.


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[Assistant] I, it's, it's wrong of me to say this. It's gonna, it's gonna come across incorrect or fucking like an asshole or something. But I believe in my heart.


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[Assistant] That I understand paper, rolling paper better than anyone other human that is fucking alive. Right. Even people that sell bigger companies, their companies to me, they don't have it in their heart. They don't really actually understand it to the level of what is it doing when it's burning? What is it actually happening? Are you watching the fibers? Are you studying it? Do you really get what's going on here? They're thinking about it from a different level.


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[Assistant] I probably shouldn't do it that much. I shouldn't connect myself so incredibly deeply with a product, but I did. Like I birthed that thing. It's my child, man. You know what I mean? It wouldn't have happened if I hadn't done it. And I don't know how eventually, based on humanity,


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[Assistant] Eventually someone else would have created a similar paper. I have to believe that. But I don't know how long it would have been. And I don't know what that paper would have been. It might have been bullshit. It might have been a thing where maybe, let's say you took your old paper from the nineties and because you don't want to make a change, you just add some brown dye to it and pretend it's natural. That's, I don't know what would have happened if I hadn't done it.


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[Assistant] It's like when they take white bread and they add brown dye to it to make it after bread. They really do that shit out there with bread. Why wouldn't they do that?


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[Assistant] So by the way, I used to own a bakery. Really? Yea, with a friend of mine. He was this amazing old Romanian man. When was this? Oh, like, seven years ago?


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[Assistant] I didn't want to do the bread was not for money. The bread was for love. If I didn't invest and make this bakery with him, he was going to close down and he made the best bread I'd ever had in my life. I love bread. He made the in the old Romanian way at a Romanian peasant loaf and I wasn't going to let it go. So I worked with him. He's like, I'm going to close. I said, why? Well, I can only make this much. What if we opened a real bakery?


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[Assistant] Okay, so we're not, we're noticing the numbers going up and they're going up just organically, not flying up. Right. And then suddenly I came to a realization because currency sings about it in a song, five on it. And he's saying raw paper, not a blunt. It's raw paper, not a blunt. Cause people see him smoking Brown and I, um,


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[Assistant] Like, everybody who smokes well, everybody wants to smoke this.


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[Assistant] Because those guys were all smoking blunts. I didn't want to convert them off blunts. I'd love to, but I didn't even think that was even possible. And then suddenly, it wasn't that they were smoking blunts, and it isn't that all rappers switched. It was that the people who truly enjoyed smoking. So suddenly I realized that, wait,


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[Assistant] Everybody who smokes, smokes, smokes, smokes, smokes, smokes, smokes, they're gonna fucking love this shit.


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[Assistant] And whiz, as soon as whiz smoke, again, it's a change that happens. Right now, if somebody makes a Ronnebee, that's what we call it, people who make stuff like us. Right. You're not really making a change. You're just doing the same thing as me. It's an also-ran, is I think the correct term. Love that term, I say it all the time. Yea, it's an also-ran.


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[Assistant] You don't want to be an authorant. But again, it's hard to innovate and they don't have paper in their heart.


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[Assistant] They don't understand and I always wish somebody would make a better paper than me because that would


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[Assistant] They're doing, okay, back when I had my head shops, we used to sell stickers, biker stickers for helmets and shit, and my favorite one was always, if you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.


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[Assistant] So like, okay, I'm going to stay in front, man. I don't want to be staring at someone else's ass. So no one's ever really leapfrogged me in all these years on that thing where it's supposed to be the, um,


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[Assistant] My grandpa taught it to me. It's like, it's a ladder, again, a different kind of ladder where it's like you step on top of each other. It was the build a better mousetrap theory that he taught me when I was little, which is, okay, Adam, you and I are competing with each other. We make mousetraps, right? I make mousetrap and I make a goddamn good mousetrap.


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[Assistant] And I put it out there and I get rewarded with these little slips of paper, this made up stuff called money. Right? Cool. Woo, I got the money, yeaah, I can buy shit, cool, awesome. And then you see that and you look at me and you say, hmmm, alright.


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[Assistant] And you make a better mousetrap than me. Maybe catch it two mice at once.


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[Assistant] And now you get rewarded with all those slips of paper and I start losing and I say, oh fuck, I make an even better mousetrap, catches three. We go on and on, sorry, leapfrogging each other, going up and up and up until eventually we make the best mousetrap that has ever existed. Maybe we make a mousetrap that looks like a fucking hovers around, goes around, catches a mice, flies pointing 20, 20 off to a field somewhere and lets it go. You know what I mean?


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[Assistant] This is how, uh, capitalism was taught to me at a young age. This, by the way, is what everybody understood. This is how capitalism is supposed to be. This is what we live for in America. This is what we're based on. The fucking mousetrap theory.


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[Assistant] It's fucked up now, but if you bring it back to that, if we go right back there, then it's like, wait.


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[Assistant] If we do that to each other, if we go on top of each other one by one, we end up flying through space and smoking at warp factor nine. We only get up there to space by going up. If we keep copying each other or doing things below each other, making low cost version, oh you got a water bottle there or your mousetrap? You got a mousetrap? I'm going to make a cheaper one than you in a place where the labor costs are less.


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[Assistant] No, I don't actually even have that problem. It's what I see in the world. You see them trying to? Oh, people try that shit, but that's okay. It doesn't really work. It doesn't work. I know it's not gonna work. What I see is like, it's too much of things that you or I or anybody buys on Amazon and like, I know the original was good and then the second time I buy it, it's cheap shit.


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[Assistant] I see it prevalent throughout the world. This isn't about rolling paper. This is about us. Like our- when we make cheap shit.


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[Assistant] If I make a cheaper, like, whatever this device is over here, what do they call it?


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[Assistant] It's a mixer. A mixer. Okay. If I make a cheap mixer, a cheaper mixer somewhere else where the labor costs are lower and it doesn't work quite as good and it costs less and I sell it on Amazon and it dies in two weeks, what happens to that cheap mixer?


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[Assistant] What I'm talking about is the piece of the actual equipment itself now ends up in a landfill polluting this beautiful planet that we live in. And we end up with a giant mountain full of fucking broken, shitty ass mixers.


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[Assistant] And that's no good for anybody. First, we had a negative experience. Maybe it killed our whole podcast because we had the shitty ass fucking knockoff mixer. No, it's also pollutes the planet. If we make things right.


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[Assistant] If we go forward and up and up and up and up and up, we all get better. The landfills get lower and it works out. We don't end up with an ocean full of literally of trash choking the fish. We have to go better or else we're, if we're not going forward, we're just like sharks or what all the fucking quotes we read about, right? If you're not going forward, you're going down. It's just the way it is.


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, there is a huge segment of the market that is extremely price sensitive and I let go of that a long time ago. I'm not the best when it comes to making a cheap paper. There are people out there that can make it cheaper than me, they can make it fucking so much cheaper than me. They sit there with their pencils and their Excel spreadsheets and they can lower the cost, cut the materials, they can get that fucking paper down so cheap.


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[Assistant] I mean, that's not my target market right there. That's not the dude I'm, I don't, I don't think about that guy when I go to sleep at night, the guy who's buying that shit. That's not my dude. My dude is somebody else. My dude is like the guy, the guys we just met outside, the guy who was trying to smoke the actual best in the world. He's trying to level the fuck up.


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[Assistant] That's my guy. I look at him. I dream of him. I think about him all the time. The guy down there who's undercutting or going down there, that's not me, man. Right. There are people out there for that. And there's a, and I'm sure that's a very important market. There's no disrespect to them, but that's just not what I do.


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[Assistant] I believe that it's enough to really focus on the product, because the way that we do it in uhm, we're in the Alcoy region of Spain, where rolling papers were first ever created. Right. And the way that we do it, and the passion that my Alcalianos have for making that box right there, that box of paper.


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[Assistant] Is so deep. And it runs multi-generational. It's so incredibly intrinsic to them.


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[Assistant] And if you had the chance to meet them, you would understand. I really don't believe that somebody can make a better one than they can. I don't believe anybody will make a better watermark than my watermarking guys. It's just not realistically possible. They believe they love it too much. I haven't seen that. It's like for this. Imagine if you're sitting here right now with the owner of Ferrari.


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[Assistant] It's a different way of thinking, it's a different way of doing things, and we don't think so much about the dude who's undercutting.


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[Assistant] From a marketing perspective, I just want to, I want to build my family stronger. That's the only way I can describe it. Just like, uhm, last night, and I don't, I'm not, I don't try to do it from a hardcore business perspective.


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[Assistant] Like the party we had last night was just a last minute thing. Everyone gets together and we all hang out and smoke as if we were in our mom's basement. Right. And I just want to have even tighter group of friends like that. And now we have to have, sure they have to be business friends, but they're actual friends also. If you see me doing something, it means I like that dude.


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[Assistant] It doesn't matter. We see, I see him with the eyes of friendship, the way that you see your friends. It's different. We blur off. We don't want to see any of the negative stuff. No, no, no. I'm only seeing positive. I don't care. I know he's fucking smart. It's funny to say on a podcast, I know he's actually a genius. I know this and I like hanging out with him when I can, you know?


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[Assistant] Now I gotta teach you a little more. Teach me, yeaah. Alright, so.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to teach you. So I can tell you, I made a Backwood type product once called Trailblazers. Yeah, I've made a lot of blunts over my career. We started off hard in blunts. I smoked a blunt with Ad Rock from the Beastie Boys.


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[Assistant] So, what I learned about Blunts in the 80s even, like 89, this kind of time, was we were using Blunts because the material was so fucking shitty.


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[Assistant] Okay, but you understand the blunt was a crutch for bad. So if somebody is smoking, to me, if some blunts are great for really terrible material, there's still, there's still a big market for that. You got like low shelf. Dude, that there it is, man.


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[Assistant] There's also, why would you want to taste something if it tastes like shit? With a really good paper, you're making where you can taste what you're smoking. Why would you want to do that if your stuff tastes like shit? Like oh great, now the shit tastes even more like shit. No.


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[Assistant] So I understand blunt culture and I know why we began smoking blunts and where it started. Right.


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[Assistant] Nowadays with what we have access to, there's just no room realistically for plants. We don't need it with what we're smoking. Maybe in Argentina, but not all of Argentina. I got friends down there that can smoke and they get really good stuff. But you gotta find it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, enjoy. So gross. Be great for a blunt, there it is. Yeah. Brickweed Blunt.


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[Assistant] Tobacco. When I, I can only talk to you about my own products. If I talk about someone else's, then great. I end up, this thing becomes, uh, deposition. Alright.


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[Assistant] When I made trailblazers, I learned real fast that what happens to a truly natural leaf cigar, which is what those things are, is mold forms. It's just a matter of what level of mold. What are you going to put on the product to try to stop the mold from forming? What chemical are you going to use? And then you end up smoking that chemical, of course, so you have a choice now. How much mold you want or how much chemicals you want, at least on my product.


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[Assistant] So we're trying to reduce that. You know what I call it, we'll use less of the anti-mold, the anti-fungal, the anti whatever it is. Right. But now you have more mold.


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[Assistant] I'm trying to basically explain to you there's something on the natural leaf that might not be necessarily natural. And just because something is natural does not mean it's okay. Right. Uranium is natural. Mold is natural. And that's okay. I don't want to smoke that stuff.


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[Assistant] Nicotine itself is really just a natural pesticide that the plant developed in order to kill bugs that were landing on it and to stop you and I from eating it over eons. And then when we happen to ingest nicotine, it has a little bit of an effect on us, man, you know?


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[Assistant] There's no, there's no amount of hemp you could smoke that would kill you realistically. Right.


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[Assistant] There's not that much tobacco, if you want to, or nicotine, you got to ingest in order to get it wrong. There's people who have died all the time from e-juice overdoses or kids smoke, or someone grabs a bottle and gets it in there or something goes wrong in their vape pen. They get really sick and maybe die.


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[Assistant] It's a, it's a very dangerous thing, but you know what? The danger isn't the important part. What I really look at it is like this.


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[Assistant] It's a thing that, uhm, that goes back to my time when I used to be friends with Jack Herrera.


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[Assistant] You're really just trying to smoke the plant, man. Just enjoy the plant.


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[Assistant] One way or another, the more you fuck with it, the more you blast it, the more you're adding things onto it, you're changing the effect that plant was meant to have on you. All life on this planet is connected. We all come realistically, sorry for super religious people, they have to find a way to make this go within their religion, that's okay, that we all come from a few cells that split and split and split a quadrillion, zillion, quadrillion times.


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[Assistant] We are related to that plant. That coffee you're drinking, you're related to it. Your DNA is really close to that coffee, man.


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[Assistant] Maybe you don't want to do that. Maybe you're going to change the effect. Jack Herrera had this belief that at all times as we sit here and as every single person that's listening to this podcast right now has cancer in their bodies.


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[Assistant] That was his belief that we all have cancer and I think it might even be true. Right. And what your, what your body is always doing is keeping it in control.


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[Assistant] Why are you gonna blast someone away? Maybe the one you blasted away or the one you fucked with with the tobacco was the one you needed to stop that cancer from going inside of you right now.


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[Assistant] No, this was just Jack. And he was one of those guys that would talk to you while thumping you on the chest with his hand like that the whole time. Oh really?


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[Assistant] I'm just trying to say you should enjoy it as naturally as you realistically can. And if you happen to be smoking something that tastes good, why wouldn't you want to fucking taste it?


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[Assistant] No one wants to eat a fucking vegan steak with a condom on their tongue. Why are you gonna wrap it in a fucking blunt? It's gonna change the taste, not in a good way. Blunts do not taste good. Tobacco does not taste good naturally, man. I know, I'm a tobacco guy.


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[Assistant] No, I wouldn't say I don't smoke it at all. I even growed it back. I grow it around my tomato plants because it keeps the aphids and shit from eating my tomatoes.


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[Assistant] It's a great natural pesticide, it really is. It's really effective for that.


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[Assistant] Kudos, kudos Indonesia. Right. And then one, and I would enjoy each one. And then one day I realized I was outside smoking without enjoying it.


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[Assistant] And that was the moment I put it down, and I was like, okay, I'm not allowed to smoke one for 30 days, 30 day challenge. And I didn't for 30 days, and I was like, okay, I'll allow myself one a day. And I kept myself within limits and this kind of thing, because I know it creeps up on you real quick.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I believe it's been proven that you can't realistically get addicted to cannabis. I don't think you can. You might miss it, but it's not something you're actually addicted to.


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[Assistant] Seems like a huge percentage of people have sort of focused on that. It started in that culture. You know what I mean? Early on when stuff tasted like shit, it was a great way to cover up shitty stuff. It still is a great way to cover up shitty stuff. What's happened more recently is that that is a social media thing.


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[Assistant] Where it's like, I want to be the bad boy. I want to be tough. I want to be, I want to be like, you know, some name, some tough rapper out there. I want to be like him and therefore I'm going to smoke this because that's what he's smoking.


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[Assistant] Knowing full well that it's fucking bad for me, but that's the point, man. No different than James Dean smoking a cigarette in the fifties. We humans, we, I'm telling you man, we keep repeating the same shit over and over again. We've known that cigarette smoking has been bad for how long?


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[Assistant] Blunts is just a modern day cigarette. It's that same fucking thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's true, but in my world that little tiny little thing I got right here is probably three times more powerful than whatever is in that


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[Assistant] Yeah, but I just, I also know. But you know, that's also part of like, you know, I joke, I used to joke around with people about my dog, they'd make fun of my little, I got this little adorable little chihuahua mutt, and they'd be picking on me, and some dude wrote, and he wrote the funniest thing, I still use it to this day. He's like, you would have a tink, you would have a little fairy tinkerbell rat dog, you gay fuck. I'm like,


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[Assistant] It's no different maybe with, with smoking. I know what's in here. I know this is strong as fuck. I know it's stronger than whatever you got in your fucking blunt over there. This is fucking good. I know I'm gonna taste it better. I really know. And so.


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[Assistant] Maybe it's an issue of knowledge. I try to teach. The problem with me teaching about blunts is I'm still involved in the tobacco business and I can't be too much of a hypocrite. The blunts that I make taste a lot better than the ones you've been smoking, but I don't want you to smoke my stuff. I'd like, we still sell it. I still make it.


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[Assistant] My job is to work for you and to make you the best one that's ever existed. If you're smoking blunts, I gotta make you a better blunt. I gotta make you one with less chemicals on it. I gotta make you one that tastes better. I gotta make it like in a way that you enjoy the experience even more. I would just prefer greatly personally that you went to paper. Right.


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[Assistant] That was fucked up for me. I can't really go too hard against him because I'm just being a hypocrite. If I get good at rolling spliffs, it's over.


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[Assistant] Yeah. Well then you're gonna get really good at rolling, you're gonna get really good at rolling paper then, man.


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[Assistant] What I, what I do is like, you know, we were talking about this ring earlier, right? Okay.


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[Assistant] Cup cough in the club, right? We're all hanging around. Someone's got a cold and they're lying about it. They're saying they're not sick. They're all passing the raw around and then I smoke it and I get sick. I'm like, wait.


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[Assistant] And it's happening over and over again. So now the raw goes in here and the end of this we smoke. Okay, no more cup cough. That's cool. And that's great that we make this thing, but what's the, it's like a tree falling in the wood that nobody hears. What good does it do if I don't teach everyone about it?


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[Assistant] If I don't show them what this is, and then it's like, how do I show it to them?


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[Assistant] What I realized was, the stuff that I make myself, or the things that I create, I'm really genuinely excited about it. And I showed them, oh my god, I turned back into...


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[Assistant] Because they're picking up on how excited I really was to make it. And some of my products that I'm incredibly excited about are ones that are actually pretty simple.


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[Assistant] This thing I made called a loader because it solved a problem that I was having for so long of how to fill a cone and I finally made a simple little $5 device that makes where you can fill your cones like that. And I was so fucking happy about it and I was so fucking thrilled that when I put it out, I'm jumping up and down literally showing you this is the fucking coolest thing in the fucking world because I'm so happy.


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[Assistant] And I'm, I guess I'm talking to myself maybe, or I'm talking to 15 year old Josh or something like that. But I, this is really the way that I get when it's something that I really care about. And I'm just so happy to show it to you, man, you know?


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[Assistant] You know, you're right, I don't even know what to say about that. But it's other than, yeaah, I mean that's really what it's like.


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[Assistant] I get really excited when I make this stuff. And sometimes I have to turn down my videos because I'm like, oh my god, I sound like an idiot.


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[Assistant] No man, it's been just like any other fucking old school rocker, it's been a long and winding road. And I lost a lot of friends along the way, so there's no white powders going up my nose. It can't happen because I lost too many friends to that shit.


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[Assistant] But now there's uhm, you can't, you can't, it ends, it ends the party too fast. No point in burning a candle on five ends, it ends, it just goes away too fast. The thing I learned in partying was like, alright, let's say we're in New York and we're gonna go out, we're gonna hit the clubs and we're gonna fucking do it, you know what I mean?


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[Assistant] You could go maybe three nights. The worst you're gonna go if we're chugging out all night, if we're passing and we're fucking doing shots and shit. I don't, the third night's gonna be pretty fucking lame too, man. Three nights in a row, yea, about a third night.


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[Assistant] And laughing and giggling at each other, and smoking more maybe, and then some more, and then some more, and laughing and giggling at each other.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. So, I learned I gotta pu- I gotta pu- I gotta stop drinking.


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[Assistant] Alright, now you and I are lucky enough that we really enjoy what we do.


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[Assistant] And we both probably realize, even if you don't realize it consciously, that like, alright, there's a certain time I can stay out till at night, there's a certain amount of partying I can do, but I gotta cut myself off here, or else I'm fucking up the next day and that next day is gonna be so much fucking fun! I don't wanna lose that fucking day! I'm enjoying it shit!


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[Assistant] Yeah, me too. And I wish you and I were somehow able to help everyone who ever watches this to enjoy what they do more too.


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[Assistant] Get better music, find new ways to hide them, get the chords in, get to do something, listen to podcasts, do something where you're actually enjoying the day more so you don't mind getting up for it.


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[Assistant] I do, yeaah, of course I listen to Joe Rogan. How could you not listen to Joe Rogan? Uhm, there's a marketing podcast from Canada. I forgot the name of it for a quick second, but that guy's really fucking fun. Tim Ferriss? No, no, no. He sells shit. No, no, an actual marketing one. Uhm, ohhhh, what's it called now?


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[Assistant] Save 100,000 lives. Really? Yea, and I'm gonna fucking do it. How are you gonna do that? We're, I believe that we're already past 25,000.


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[Assistant] And if I just keep doing it and get it a little more extreme. So here's the thing. I have to be, I have to be clear from the beginning. I have to say this to myself. I'm a piece of shit because I don't give back as much as I could.


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[Assistant] I give back a chunk, I've given back millions. And we do it in a really well placed way. Where we've had incredible effects. Where this fucking weird smoker dude


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[Assistant] Is the key water supplier, the benefactor, whatever you want to call it, to all of Mother Teresa's hospitals in Ethiopia. And I think at this point we've, we've touched every single one of them. And this is my money. This isn't money that was like,


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[Assistant] From someone else or this kind of thing. This was stuff where like, I could have bought another fucking bunch of cars or another shit with it. But no, we went and did this. And we did it right. I do it with my guys, like David Harding and these incredible crew. And we really do it.


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[Assistant] I was there and I saw it and we actually were able to fix it. If you want me, I'll tell you about it more. It's up to you. What I, what I want to tell you about that though is what's amazing to me. And by the way, every morning they have a list of their keep, I guess, benefactors.


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[Assistant] Every single morning I've got the sisters of Mother Teresa praying for me. I'm not religious, but I think it's fucking beautiful. And the fact that like, me, out of all people, you know what I mean? Could pull off something like that. The people in their hospitals were dying of thirst. They had no water. They had just enough water to drink, but not enough to clean the sheets or the patients or anything like that. You can't imagine what it was like. And no one will help them.


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[Assistant] Uh, the church looks at it as they should be sending money that way, not coming this way. And the governments don't want to help them because they're considered religious organizations even though they're not really that religious.


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[Assistant] So they get kinda just stuck out there and there's nobody who's gonna help them. And in the end, what actually came down to help them was you and me.


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[Assistant] Cause there's nobody left. There's nobody else. There's no government. There's no other. Nope. Comes down to...


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[Assistant] You're left with a spot of like, okay, cool, I made a bunch of money. You find out about this problem down there and then you sit there like, well, isn't there someone else that's supposed to do this besides me? Yeah, there is, but they're not gonna do it.


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[Assistant] But they're supposed to. Okay, now you can sit there with that and be like, well, they're supposed to, therefore it's not my fault. Or you could accept reality, which is there's no one who's going to help them.


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[Assistant] But you, if you want to help them, go down there. You fucking do it. Otherwise they ain't going to be helped. Sure. 10 other people should have done it. Thousand, 10 million. Right. But it's just, you got one choice, man. And then she said, I can't fucking live with myself if I don't go fucking help them. Of course I gotta help them.


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[Assistant] I love people, man. You know, I get high off them. I enjoy their company. I enjoy everything about it. Of course there are people that are annoying as fuck that I don't want to be anywhere near, but Jen generally speaking in a higher sense. We're, we're awesome.


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[Assistant] Humans are an incredible fucking creature. There's a reason why we rule this planet.


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[Assistant] And if you can eliminate suffering of other people, how could you not?


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[Assistant] So I give back a good chunk, but I should give back a lot more than I do. A lot more. And we've been able to effect some incredible change.


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[Assistant] Before I go, I really want to cross that hundred thousand number. Only because I vote, by the way, this is an ongoing number. The first goal was a hundred people, then it was a thousand people. And then it was like, okay, I'm going to kick Schindler's ass. Arthur Schindler.


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[Assistant] You know, the story from the Nazis. Right. And I did this whole population graph where I realized he had saved a thousand people in 1942 to 1945 at great expense and risk to himself and all this shit. And based on population growth, now to beat him, I would have to save 3000 people. I'm like, I'm going to kick Schindler's ass. I'm going to save 3000 people. Then I'm going to fly to Israel, go to his grave and say, I beat you. Right. I do crazy shit against myself.


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[Assistant] Alright, let's keep going. Let's keep going. What number can we reach next? Right. So it's like an ongoing target.


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[Assistant] But the thought of like, by the way, maybe this is why I'm happy all the time. Maybe this is why I giggle. Cause no matter what somebody calls me or says about me or anything like that, I know what I did. I've been to Ethiopia many times. I know what we actually did. You can't call me a piece of shit when I saved that many people's lives, man. And even though I am a piece of shit and I should save more.


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[Assistant] I'm gonna hit that hundred thousand number before I'm gone unless I get vaporized tomorrow. Right. Plane crash, who knows.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I made that clear, like uhm, when I'm in Ethiopia, when I find the projects, one of the first things I do is I message Betty and I tell her about them. And I'll be like, if something should happen to me, you finish these, every last one of them. She'll be like, of course.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I know. People have tried to buy us and all that kind of stuff over the years. We always say no. Yeah, they did. Um, that was a funny one. That was really, I really pissed them off. I shouldn't have pissed them off as much as I did.


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[Assistant] And I thought about it for a minute and I, even just considering it, I didn't sleep for three days pretty much. Just little winks here and there, but not really sleeping because I was so upset about it. They're gonna take your baby and they're gonna taint it. They're gonna destroy it and all the stuff's gone and it ends, you know what I mean? The whole thing we're actually trying to do, what this is all about, my enjoyment, all of these things goes away. And I would, I would literally have a conversation with them where they're like, I'm like, hey,


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[Assistant] How are you gonna make me have, how are you gonna make this more fun for me? How am I gonna enjoy my life even more? Because right now I really like what I'm doing. I'm loving this. So how am I, how is me selling to you?


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[Assistant] Gotta make me happier. Explain that to me. Well, you have all this money. I'm like, cool, cool, other than money, I already got money. So, other than money, how is this gonna benefit me, like, in terms of happiness? Are we gonna do more good together? What are we gonna do? They're like, well, we'll give you more money.


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[Assistant] Here's a cool thing, this gives me a chance to say something. Okay. Which is, and which I'm hoping the audience will appreciate, as a real smoker, I've learned to forgive myself and love myself. Yes, I forget things. I do this all the time and so do you. And that's okay. I love myself anyway. Fuck it.


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[Assistant] Tyrade time. Quick cool tie. How much of a Tyrade? That's me. I don't do much great. Down for a rant.


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[Assistant] What I like, the way we're talking about this humanitarian stuff, and the way I look at it, sometimes I wonder, like, why the fuck do I do it? Because everyone asks me, why the hell do you do it? What are you doing over there? I mean, we went down to Diri Dara in Somaliland, and they were telling me, don't come, because you're going to get kidnapped and killed. And we're like, well, the sisters asked me to come, though. I have to go. They're like, what?


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[Assistant] Because I was, you fall Adam if I'm lucky enough somehow to become close enough friends with you that I drag you along there with you holding your hand and bring you in there and you meet the sisters and you see what's actually going on and how much they're helping and you meet the people of Ethiopia.


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[Assistant] And you will fall in love with him. You, there's no one who will not. I could bring Donald Trump there and he would fall in love with these people. There are people like you and me and they're beautiful. The men, the women, everybody, they are beautiful. They are us.


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[Assistant] And so you're there, and you don't suddenly feel like it's them and you. Suddenly you realize like, oh, these are me, this is us, I'm one of them, we are all one, oh shit, these people are really suffering, and I can help stop it.


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[Assistant] So you're there and you turn on the water project with the sisters and, oh my god, now there's clean water there for the first time, maybe ever, and they have enough water where they can actually save more lives, they can do more good and all that stuff, and now it's time to leave.


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[Assistant] And make sure no bad people come through that gate. But then you sit there and you have to motivate. And the sisters always tell me things, like they tell me how, Josh, if you don't go back and do what you do, then we can't do what we do. I'm like, but you guys have given your lives. I gave nothing. I give you some money. What's that?


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[Assistant] What ability do we have to make money? If you don't send us this money, if you don't go back and do well, then we cannot help these people. We do it together, Josh.


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[Assistant] And you motivate and you get on the plane and you cry just like I'm crying now. You cry the whole flight out and eventually you find a way to be okay with it.


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[Assistant] So this is life though. Life should be passionate like that. Life should be beautiful. You should want to stand there with a gun at the gates of hell and fucking protect the sisters.


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[Assistant] So if you, if I'm lucky enough to somehow bring you there with me, you will feel the same way. I'm going.


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[Assistant] And I believe, and this is a belief that I've said it before, and I have to hold on to this belief.


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[Assistant] I believe that we smokers are more empathetic than any other group. Yeah. Cause you drink, it turns off empathy. It just does. You do other hard drugs, it turns off empathy. That's what it's doing half the time. Maybe it inflates your ego to turn it off. Maybe it dumbs you down or numbs you off. So it turns it off.


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[Assistant] It's coming from, coming from the hemp plant, man. It's coming from smokers. It's coming from us.


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[Assistant] There's nobody left. When I was in Ethiopia, I realized there was nobody left. Nobody else was going to help these people. We helped them. It's the same way with the world. If we don't make the change, if we don't allow this beautiful plant to inspire us for creativity and new ways of thinking and empathy, what will?


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[Assistant] Like when I'm lucky enough to be on a podcast like this with you and so many people listening and watching all this stuff, I get choked up because I don't know what to say to them. There's so many messages. There's so much you want to tell. I know I've come to learn, especially because I'm a lot older than you, man. I know that I'm 47.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I read somewhere, I'm not saying it's true, cause it's probably wrong, that, uhm, vegans have longer, healthier, more hair. Because it's all about blood flow. It's the same thing why vegans get better erections. I said it! It's true!