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[Assistant] But even on the, on the corner route, like Travis Kelce was just like, oh, you read the route for me? Cool. I'll just go ahead and sit down. And I'm just, I'll throw it short. Now who knows? Now he, and Patrick Holmes through that, knowing good and well, that was not the play. So we're kind of trusting.


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[Assistant] And the problem is I've seen Deshaun Watson do all those things. I've seen him do all that, right? The question is how do we get to a point where we can trust as fans that we're gonna see that starting week one next year?


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[Assistant] I'm moving, I'm moving that same way with Jason. I think before it was, cause you see what it's alarming in the middle, when somebody's gashing you in the middle and now you get shorts, they might have told Jim, look, we brought you in because we think you got to retrain a couple of these dudes. We think you got to...


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[Assistant] And then we'll give you one guy, we'll try really hard to give you a guy that you can hang your hat on. But for me,


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[Assistant] To me, the most important position for this, this team is a receiver because I'm looking around and there's no shot, there's no chance. Cause I think one of the things that even hurt the Cincinnati Bengals was Tyler Boyd going out.


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[Assistant] Tyler Boyd, the first two or three plays of that, of that game, they had no answer for Tyler Boyd in the slot. Then you had Higgins, and then you still had Jamar Tate. See sometimes, I know we're not used to it, but sometimes you gotta have multiple guys to beat. Guys that do different things. Do different things.


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[Assistant] He's a cheater. Your son, if you're listening to this, tell them to turn the internet on and get updated rosters. Christian McCaffrey is no longer on the Carolina pastors. That touchdown is illegal.


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[Assistant] Do you take, now Bull was asked this at the beginning of the season and we told him not to jump off the roof with this, but he did. He said,


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[Assistant] He would take the Browns for three years over the Steelers for three years. At the end of this year,


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[Assistant] Would you take the Browns next three years or the Steelers next three years?


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[Assistant] Well, he did it to start and we told him the Steelers never really are trash. He's like, the Steelers are done, they'll come in last place.


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[Assistant] We talk about, we talk about Deshaun Washington's contract. Uhm, is Joe Burrow the realistic person that could potentially push to get the Fully Guaranteed deal? Yes.


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[Assistant] She's, she's like my mom. She'd be thinking that he turned it off. You need to give it a rest. I said, mom, this is a machine, an electronical work of art. This thing could run for thousands of hours. What do you mean give it a rest? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Well, here's, here's the thing. Joe Burrow is from there. Damn near. He's from my... He's from Souther...


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[Assistant] I don't know how the Bengals as an organization come back from that.


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[Assistant] Now, now as far as breaking the bank, I do think he'll get the richest contract ever.


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[Assistant] I don't know how the Cincinnati Bengals pay it. Uhm, I don't know. I think their owners only do that. I don't know if they got any other businesses anywhere. I think they just do football. It's hard for you just doing football.


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[Assistant] I actually think he's, I think he's gonna get, he might get both. He might get both.


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[Assistant] You ever, you ever want to go somewhere where you feel detention in a room? Go to a sports book. In conference championship. Especially the last two minutes. Oh, they be living and dying. It be people in there living and dying.


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[Assistant] We nev- G Bush never forgets the fans. I never- no matter what we are, we had a fan from India, is that correct? A fan from India last- yesterday hit us up for a super chat. What's the name of this fan?


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[Assistant] And we can have Aditi do all her takes in India.


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[Assistant] No good. That hurts kids, but it kind of hurts. It was a play like this, uhm, where the guy came back in and touched the ball with inside the team.


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[Assistant] Like you can't, like I always ask myself, like bro, you're away from the ball. I know you feel like the coach going to bring this up in film and say you was hustling.


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[Assistant] And look at this, look at this block over here. You guys need to all be, no, you cost your team 15 more yards and you're, and where's Waldo? I hate those plays.


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[Assistant] There's no, uh, that was an inadvertent whistle and flag on that plane. No, that's two things. You cheated me. That's cheating.


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[Assistant] Now they've got another change. Especially when it's always the Chiefs, like good God, the Chiefs got another change. Yea, you're going to give them five downs? Yea, that's a good idea.


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[Assistant] You're not blocking any of that. Like it's fool's gold. I think they line up even shorter.


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[Assistant] Just so your little body can line up right up underneath the legs of the punter. When you lay out there like, oh yeaah, he's about six foot. It's a trap. It's a trap face card. It's a trap card face down. You're walking into a dark magician face down trap.


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[Assistant] He hit his plant, he hit his plant foot, Jay. He can't touch his plant foot. It's dangerous. That, that's, that, yeaah.


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[Assistant] And by the way, they need to, they need, if anything needs to be stripped of automatic first downness, it needs to be defensive holding. Yeah, it should be a five yard from the line. From the line. I agree. You can either go for it or you can't. What do you want to do with it? But we're not going to give you the,


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[Assistant] If it started at 17 and it's a five yard hole, you tellin' me. On a nine yard hole. Like come on man.


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[Assistant] Give me the college. Do you understand how much gymnastics you gotta go through your mind to say that was an automatic touchdown? Cause that's what you're giving him. If it's a spot foul, you saying he was gonna come down with that, he was gonna pivot, and this is gonna be seven. And some of those balls are a lot more catchable than others.


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[Assistant] Would you put a limit on it? Like listen, if it's past 15 yards, we'll give you a spot foul up to 50 yards.


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[Assistant] Rarely. Yeah, rarely. So that's why I'm like rare. Okay, I'll give you that. If you had 50 yards and you really went for a ball on top.


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[Assistant] I'll take that, but this, but like you gotta think about it, in the game, if somebody, if you hold somebody or you get caught up or tangled up with somebody at the goal line, that's the game.


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[Assistant] This, this one is bad. This one is the worst. It's kind of, it's two of them that get on my nerves. V accidentally touched his helmet.


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[Assistant] That, that is, that is an oxymoron. It does not exist. It's a, it's a fallacy. There is no way you can bring another man down without enforcing any sort of weight opposite the amount of weight he's forcing. So if I, if he's 240 to get him down, I must put at least


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[Assistant] 245 pounds. That's all you got. That's all I got. What do you think momentum is? And they're like, oh no, that was late. G. Bush tackled a quarterback with 240 pounds instead of 200.


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[Assistant] It's just basically they're trying to get rid of the hits that look bad. I know they're trying to get rid of the shoulder clavicle hits or whatever, but now I'm going to be honest with y'all, man. It's a contact sport, man. What you should be upset is, is the guys like Purdy.


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[Assistant] See now what we doing as defensive linemen, when we come around and we reaching around, we don't want to leave our feet, we want to hit you right here in that elbow.


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[Assistant] Keep that shit in house. We was in a chat, somebody was like, we was in there, it's like, man, somebody's, somebody is weak because they, uh, had a meniscus tear.


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[Assistant] You know? Do this, right? And they do it, they do this, this, this, this, this, this like test. If you do this, you keep your arm at a 90 degree and have somebody push it back. Yeaah. Like this. Don't move, don't move your shoulder. Yeaah, it's just a pivot here. It's just a pivot here. Anything past this 90 degrees and your shoulder is locked?


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[Assistant] All this in here feels so vulnerable. It feels like somebody, it feels like somebody's like, like really doing something creepy to you. Like don't touch me. Well, imagine throwing.


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[Assistant] That's, that hurts. It's just insane. That hurts. It is. That hurts.


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[Assistant] That's essentially what we're going with. Let's see one more, Mike. Hold on.


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[Assistant] This is my theory of robotics and the laws of robotics right here. This is my death squad. We got Kyrie Irving at point guard, Donovan Mitchell at the two, LeBron at the three, but he's really playing the point guard. See how we got shooters around him right there.


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[Assistant] We got three handlers right there, ISO gods out there, and then we got Kevin Love to space the floor at four, and we got Trisha Thompson who's switching every pick and roll. Get some of that. That's the ultimate death lineup on 2K. You're not losing. It is what it is. You should ask AI what its ultimate Cleveland


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[Assistant] Yes, because where I need to go is you got to show depth out here and I needed to get Anthony's graphics together. We're going to see how he was going to go. With Darius Garland, we got him at the point. Mark Price at the two, we need that floor spacing. Listen, Ron Harper, the Swiss Army knife, the young Ron Harper.


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[Assistant] And Austin Carr, Austin Carr gonna get a shot from anywhere and we got Larry Nance as our rim protector.


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[Assistant] Switching on everything. That's the second team death lineup for the Cleveland Cavaliers. And I got every single era in there. I got some of the seventies. I got the eighties. You do. You got it all covered. I got it all covered. What's your 13 look like? You want to show us 13?


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[Assistant] This is my all time line up. Oh, this is your number one? This is my line up. Oh, I thought the first one you showed was your number. No, this is my tradition now. Oh, I see.


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[Assistant] So you're blending here, you're blending. There's blending, there's Z. I got the 7 footer, I got Big Brad.


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[Assistant] I think, uh, you know, he deserves my power for it. And then obviously you got Donovan and LeBron and Kyrie still. So you still get the bigs. This is my eighties lineup. If I want to go against the Knicks, some of the big teams of the eighties. That's my, that's my all time lineup, my position, no small ball stuff.


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[Assistant] You know, when you ask who's better, LeBron or Jordan, you know, one thing that's so impressive about Jordan is you look at the amount of teams they had.


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[Assistant] And the teams that if you go back to that era, the Atlanta Hawks had Doc Rivers and


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[Assistant] And even as you continue to go on, you look at teams like the Knicks who say they had their best years in the East. Uh, you know, you look at guys like the Utah Jazz who went and played them twice, and the Blazers, and so all these even the great players.


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[Assistant] It's crazy. It just baffles me. And a lot of them, and then Larry Bird, after a while, Larry Bird never got, never was over the hill anymore. They started beating the Pistons, and when they started beating the Pistons, that meant everybody, when you watch that uh, the uh, the dream team,


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[Assistant] You know, Michael said, who's taking the last shot? You take me? You already know who I'm taking the last shot. That was a dumb question. At that point in time.


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[Assistant] And it was kinda, and I will say this, it was kinda like before it was, you know, don't get it twisted, Magic and Byrd were still good athletes, but it kinda like you saw the morph of the athlete, like you like Jordan was the first dude to do plyometrics or something like that.


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[Assistant] Just the same way LeBron looked like the first dude that was like lifting weights. Like, so everybody, I ain't gonna lift no weights. Yeah, that's a tight end now.


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[Assistant] But you would think with me being such a fan of three great organizations, I would have more success in the, um, world series, but I don't.


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[Assistant] Pretty much even past that. So it's always a good time and I'm pretty sure Tyves, I told you guys a lot about the Buckeye Crews for Cancer. Lisa, Chris, um, Kyle, Kim, uh, Nikki, they do an unbelievable job in all the volunteers of making it a great experience, not just for the current players.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I just told him, hey, make sure the outcome is diff- make sure the outcome of that nut is different from, uh, what was it, 12 years ago when I was there.


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[Assistant] So uhm, they capped it off. Shouts out their coach again in Glenville. They did some unbelievable. And, uh, it was just a great feeling, not just for myself, but our community to, to that really say Glenville football is back.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know what? Not necessarily. I think everything was happening so fast during that time period. Uh, people gotta understand that was the first year of the college football playoffs was extended the season and pushed the season back almost two weeks. So with that being said, you know, a national championship game was usually played, I think like on the first or the second, um, uh,


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[Assistant] Monday of the year with the BCS era and then guys after that had a solid two and a half weeks or whatever it was to declare for NFL draft. So now you get a chance to put your name out there and get some fillers, um, to really decompress and think about, you know, the next steps in your career. Well, I had two days.


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[Assistant] You know, some rumors that came about when, uh, you know, some coaches have may have said some negative things about me and impressed or to, uh, NFL, uh, scouts when it came to, Hey, why is this guy haven't started?


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[Assistant] This whole time, the team looked completely different without this guy. So I personally believe that would have hurt my stock as much as anything that I've done in those three games.


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[Assistant] I think as a player, you always have a chance to reflect and say what you could have done different. What, what, you know, if you was in that situation again, and how would you go about certain things? But yeah, I think stressful was the least of the, um, I mean, that's a nice way to put it because of the inconsistency, not just with myself, but the play calling.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and this is not clearly to throw anyone under the bus because I'm all, you know, I had to, I had talked with the people who was all in those situations from coach Meyer to coach Warner to, to coach Tim Beck, who was my quarterback coach to JT to Braxton. So this is not to throw anyone under the bus, but that 2013 season, they never allow.


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[Assistant] us as players on the offensive side of the ball to feel comfortable with the play calling or within our position. We have so many playmakers and we knew it's only one football.


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[Assistant] Right? So what I think our coaches was doing was trying to keep everybody happy.


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[Assistant] And you know, Zeke got to swallow that pill. If we got throw the ball 42 times a game, they only run it 10 times.


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[Assistant] And that's the prime example of out coaching yourself. I think that's what we did from weekend to week out basis. Uhm, you look at after we played the Virginia Tech game.


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[Assistant] You know, me and JT were so different when it came to the quarterback position. Uhm, trying to get our offense tailored to both of our playing styles during one game plan. I mean, you get the results that you got. Mediocre performance. Not just by myself, but him as well.


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[Assistant] Play the way he did as well the year, the following year in this two quarterback system or trying to rotate us during certain times. We both looked like crap until, you know, Coach Meyer finally made the decision to bench me and start him, you know, uhm.


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[Assistant] The rest of it after the Penn State game that year. Ironically, I was just talking about that yesterday. Uhm, and then now him having that comfortability and that say, hey, I'm the guy no matter what, you know, which you want your quarterback to have that comfortability level. Uhm, he started to excel at his play.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I pretty much can sneeze. The ball would probably be through the uprights.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, so, no, but excited for the opportunity and also I just saw, you know, they picked up another Buckeye, Brandon White, you know, who played, I think three, yeaah, played three years in the Buckeyes and spent his last year or two at Rutgers, I want to believe.


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[Assistant] And uhm, so I'm excited for that. Always good to have Buckeyes in the locker room. So uhm, you know, we'll see what the opportunity leads to, but it's a...


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[Assistant] Opportunity to get back, you know, doing something I love to do and uh, hopefully scoring a lot of points.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, I think the NIO world is forever changing and I think, you know, uh,


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[Assistant] Some of the things that Ohio State is trying to do when it, when it comes to, uh, in-house and outside sources like, you know, like the collective, me and my buddy Brian Shonstein started the foundation.


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[Assistant] Uhm, is trying to provide great opportunities for the Buckeyes, trying to help them any way we can and continue to recruit and play our part in attracting quality student athletes.


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[Assistant] So, no, the coaching staff at University hasn't evolved, so we would love to be more interactive with the University on the side of things at NIL because at the end of the day, we're doing this for them, but for whatever reason, Ohio State, uhm, isn't as, uhm, supportive


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[Assistant] Uh, we would like them to be when it comes to not just us as an entity, but us to help raise funds to ultimately provide, you know, opportunities for your players to continue to help your coaches make millions of dollars a year. I don't understand how they not as supportive of one character. It's mind blowing.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't say friction, I just think that uhm,


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[Assistant] of recent, you see a school like Alabama, um, pour so many resources into their NIL. You see, uh, Nick Saban jumping on the video. They're 80 on the video. They got players on the video talking about their collective, donate and support their collective, how it helps Alabama, how it's going to continue to help them.


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[Assistant] Stay competitive in the recruiting world and provide much needed opportunities for the student athletes. And you know, they're, you know, this is the coach, this is the AD, this is the face of the university.


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[Assistant] I'm going out and publicly saying, hey, get behind this because this helps us. And I can only imagine what.


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[Assistant] a 30 minute, out of a 30 minute day for, you know, the higher ups of the Ohio State, if it's coaches, if it's ADs, if it's whoever, to make a clip like that or to support us publicly like that. Well, that can do not just for us, but also for them.


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[Assistant] And for whatever reason, we don't have that support. It's above my pay grade and I'm just going to continue to, yeah, I'm just going to continue. We're going to continue to do what we can and you know, and you know, thankful for everybody who supported us through this time with the foundation and all our supporters and donors and.


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[Assistant] Everyone and knowing that, you know, all of this is for the student athletes at Ohio State.


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[Assistant] Yeah, when you think of an NIL pool, I would, I would...


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[Assistant] I would compare those to the collectives, right? I would say, okay, but you look at the Texas collectives, you look at the, you know, other school collectives.


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[Assistant] They're using the school trademarks. They're on the school's websites. The schools are publicly endorsing these people, publicly endorsing these entities because they know that this is what the fans want to see. They know that autism is going to help their


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, you think it's disappointing as a fan, but how do you think I feel as a former player? Sure. So a former player is a supporter that, you know, and then another thing about this, you know, this is not my job. Like, you know, we created this, me or him, no one on our staff, our staff, which we don't really even have, takes a salary.


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[Assistant] Clearly I can't talk about that stuff. They know they're going to get great training and things like that. We're coaching Mick and great coaching by Coach Day and those guys. But you know, my role, our role to try to fill in those gaps of where other schools are being competitive and that's in the NIO world.


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[Assistant] You know, so uhm, with all that being said, it would have definitely helped if we had more publicly support and uhm, proactive things from the university, but for,


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[Assistant] But, you know, from my experience with it so far, you know, we had the coaches, Coach Day, Coach, um, you know, home men at our events last year. And I mean, they're clearly all above it. I mean, all for it because.


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[Assistant] Clearly it helps them continue to make a lot of money a year and continue to, uh, recruit and have great student athletes. But wherever that decision's coming from that's dragging their feet on, you know, not supporting us or not doing some of the things that's


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[Assistant] Well, well, I think, yeaah, I think you, you, you, I think they shot themselves in the foot with the football program this past year that they, uhm, released that they made over 60 million, something like that or whatever, something crazy like that, but yet, you know, you're going to fans to tell them


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[Assistant] How does that make sense? How do you need anything with that program? So I'm pretty sure, like I said, as other schools are doing to find the ways to some of the money they're generating through their athletic programs, that's going to some of their collectives and just going in different directions to eventually go back to their players to continue to help them.


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[Assistant] Keep these high paying jobs, because like I said before, and I made this analogy, you know, uh,


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[Assistant] Well guys, and this is no offense to no other school, let me use Toledo as an example. You know, clearly Toledo Ohio State is on two different levels. But if Ohio State doesn't act right and get their stuff together when it comes to, uhm, I think just the NIL world, and I think the foundation is one of the ways they can make that happen.


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[Assistant] And they want to act like the black O is worth so much stuff and all this other stuff. Well, we all know why is it worth so much because of the football program and no, and that's no disrespect to the basketball, women's basketball, any other 38 sports, 36 sports, but we know what pays for those sports eventually.


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[Assistant] And if they don't get their act together NIO world, they're going to start seeing that, you know, Ohio state that work is going to continue to go down.


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[Assistant] You know, you look up in five to ten years and we don't get this thing under wraps, then, you know, how's everything ever pass?


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[Assistant] Yeah, that's the age of players like me and Tyrus that's going, that grew up loving Ohio State. Don't get me wrong, you know, guys, I've been on some of these calls with some of these recruits in the NIL world just educating them about the foundation, some of the things we do for the current players' own roster now.


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[Assistant] And stuff like that. And I had, I cannot tell you how many calls I had with families. It's like, listen, we ain't got no allegiance to nobody. We going with the money.


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[Assistant] That stuff is gone. They like, oh yea, y'all got hot tubs in here? I need to go somewhere where I can get me hot tubs in my dorm.


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[Assistant] You know what, I think, uhm, when it comes to playing professional sports, uhm, I think, you know,


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[Assistant] It's always a great feeling if you're able to play for home time, if you play basketball or whatever it may be. And I was able to do that with Ohio State. That was great. So the love and support that you get as a home time kid in whatever profession or whatever, uh, you know, sports you're playing is always.


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[Assistant] A little different than playing in another city. Um, granted, I'm looking forward to playing in Boston. Never really had an opportunity to explore Massachusetts and, and, and, um, really I know they're a great sports town with, you know, the Celtas, you got the Patriots, you got the Red Sox and some of the things they did on the college level as well.


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[Assistant] But I think it would be a different vibe if I was able to play for a hometown team.


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[Assistant] Okay, so I don't think Tyvis, Tyvis actually can play a little. Uhm, you know, this year, I'm excited. I mean, last two years, Tyvis, you've been on a losing team. No, no, no, no, no. But his first year, he crushed us.


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[Assistant] Former players versus current players and, you know, we all know we, we can never really solve that.


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[Assistant] Patriots, Seahawks one, where of course the ball should have been run instead of thrown, but it was thrown. And anyway, I was pregnant with my son, my first then, and that's the way that we announced that we were pregnant. We said announcing our very first


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[Assistant] His uncle's Xbox at Christmas and he got his first thing of Madden. He is obsessed, except he whines and he whines and he whines. And if I could tell you how many times I've tried to explain to him, do you think that when Josh Allen throws an interception, he goes into the tank?


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[Assistant] No he doesn't. He goes to the sideline, he calms down, and he comes back. But for some reason, the seven-year-old can't get there.


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[Assistant] You know what's really funny is that last week my husband was playing him and, uh, for whatever reason my husband was the Panthers. This is actually a great story. My daughter, every time she's around, the three-year-old insists that my husband be the Browns because as you know, she was born in Cleveland and her brother has trained her to say that she is a Browns fan. And my poor Steelers fan husband is constantly playing the Browns and trying to win with the Browns.


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[Assistant] But anyway, last week, Matt plays with the Panthers and he says to Nico, he goes,


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[Assistant] So, you're not grading on a curve, you don't get bonus points for having a major change part way through the season, two thirds of the way through the season.


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[Assistant] You know, where third and fourth, third and short and fourth and short and you're throwing instead of running. So yeaah. I mean I can't disagree. You keep keeping my face on the screen. You should put the like...


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[Assistant] I also expect to see significant improvement from Deshaun Watson when he gets a whole off season and a whole season and all of that time in. You know, one of the things that I'll say about


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[Assistant] Your commentary in there desperately being a need for a receiver in the middle of the field.


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[Assistant] No, you just need consistent guys. Like the best receivers can go all over the field. Antonio Brown could catch the ball on a post or a go. He could also do the dirty work in the middle.


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[Assistant] And when Antonio Brown was killing it, there was a year when Antonio was doubled and tripled and Juju was open and Juju caught every ball that still came his way. I'm using the Steelers obviously just because we were talking about them, but you need that. You know Jarvis Landry was a guy that was very, very reliable, very consistent. So it's not so much that you need a person, you need


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[Assistant] You need guys that you can count on. David Njoku, he did have a good year, but there were a couple balls late in the season where it was like, come on now, you're paid that kind of money to never drop a ball like that.


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[Assistant] Never. And I love the highlight catches. Of course you love that. That one right there. But sometimes it's just making about the, it's about making the easy catch too.


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[Assistant] In any case, so let's go back to this. So the Browns, I don't think that they stay stagnant by any means. I think that they improve. The thing with the Steelers is that


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[Assistant] They, they have a very interesting situation at offensive coordinator on their hands. So, it is very well known that the offensive coordinator was not particularly, uhm,


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[Assistant] I don't know what the right word is. We know, we know that players had gone to Mike Tomlin and to the general manager Omar Khan and


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[Assistant] Team president and owner Art Rooney decided to bring him back.


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[Assistant] How does that all play out next year? When the coordinator knows that players have gone and requested change, when the players have really


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[Assistant] Sort of, when he's lost some players, how do you get them back?


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[Assistant] And what is the offense able to do? Do I expect Kenny Pickett to be better? Yes. We saw immense growth from Kenny Pickett. He's got a great quarterbacks coach. He's got a great private coach. He's got the entire makeup that you want. Does he have necessarily all the same natural skill that Deshaun Watson does? I don't know, but I like Kenny Pickett a lot. But what that offense can do?


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[Assistant] I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure, because I think that creativity and that design really does matter in this day and age. And defensively, you know, it took a while for the Steelers to get going. They can't, and yes, TJ Watt being hurt was a part of that, but they can't afford to do that again.


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[Assistant] I don't know, you know, I also think the Ravens quarterback situation is really fascinating as well. So, it's not like I'm ready to sit here and just anoint the Ravens automatically.


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[Assistant] You're right, the culture makes a huge difference and we have seen this with a team like the Jaguars, who I know I talked about a few weeks ago. Culture does mean everything and Mike Tomlin did not have to establish


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[Assistant] When you have a guy like Sammy Watkins saying to Lamar Jackson, we have a chance to make some noise, get back in there.


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[Assistant] To see it's this or nothing. This is our one chance. This is the last time that this group is going to be together. This is the last opportunity we have, the one in front of us, because nothing else is guaranteed. And there just wasn't that guy. Right. And there isn't that guy.


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[Assistant] James Harrison was most definitely past his prime when the Steelers are playing a playoff game in Kansas City. And it was just as tough sledding as could be. They couldn't punch it in the end zone. Le'Veon Bell ran for crazy. It was all these field goals, whatever, but it comes down to the very end of the game.


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[Assistant] James Harrison does not have the speed, he does not have the moves, he does not have the brute force he once did. But he is wily enough, this many years into his career, that he goads Eric Fisher, the Chief's left tackle, into an unbelievably dumb penalty that wins the Steelers the game.


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[Assistant] This, you need a guy like that. And when you're the Browns, you even more need a guy like that. But to your point, Jay, there is no established culture of play-offs or bust.


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[Assistant] I mean, you're, you're right. I've said it before. On Sundays, TJ Watt is the scariest person. You do not want to disappoint him. If he's your teammate, you do not want him on your tail. You do not want him upset with you and you most definitely don't want to disappoint him. As great of a player as Miles Garrett is. Miles Garrett just doesn't inspire that same


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[Assistant] I hate to call it fear, but lack of a better word, that same drive. He's just not that same guy. So get somebody else who is. Doesn't always have to be your best player.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it is a very interesting point, right? And we did talk about this last week, actually, Jason, when we were talking about the Bengals, and I was like, look, they are in a moment where they've got all these guys on rookie deals, and that's not going to last forever.


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[Assistant] The Ravens, let me just say this. I don't think it has anything to do with not being willing to pay a quarterback. They paid Joe Flacco. And I know for a fact they were ready to pay Lamar Jackson. He's just incredibly difficult to negotiate with because he doesn't have an agent. It's negotiating with him.


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[Assistant] In that, when you look at a guy like Russell Wilson, who just completely fell off the c- the cliff, when you look at Lamar Jackson, who hasn't been able to stay healthy. And so...


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[Assistant] It's not at all about not wanting to pay him, and I absolutely...


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[Assistant] Believe that teams recognize the single most important player is the quarterback and he does need to take an outsized share of your cap and that the difference in getting to the next level versus not is how elite your quarterback is.


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[Assistant] And how much your quarterback inspires and gets others around him to play better.


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[Assistant] That is worth paying for. I don't think that that is it.


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[Assistant] Where you're right, Jason, that teams are willing to let a veteran receiver go perhaps because they know that there's so much wide receiver talent in the college game that is very ready to come and adjust on this level.


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[Assistant] I don't think that there's as much confidence when it comes to the quarterbacks. That this guy will definitely absolutely be a success on the NFL level.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, that's it. I mean, even I, for instance, I know that I was there when, uh, Josh Allen was drafted and I've had many, many, many conversations with Brandon Breen prior to his drafting, after his drafting and in the five or six, whatever years it has been since.


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[Assistant] I know that he loved Josh Allen. There's no way that he would sit here and say, oh, I 100% knew that he was going to be a perennial pro bowler and an MVP candidate. You just never know.


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[Assistant] Maybe part of it is that they have never developed one either. Because...


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[Assistant] I know Brandon Bean like is Baker Mayfield a differe if he doesn't have four he four offensive coordinat


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[Assistant] You know, we know that David Carr is a different quarterback if he doesn't play behind that line. Are Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen different guys if they are in different clubs, if they go into stability, if they go into good coaching.


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[Assistant] For the Browns, it's not only about finding them because Baker was indeed extremely liked by a lot of teams and had a lot of tools. But there is no way that you can say the Browns set him up for success.


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[Assistant] And look where Jalen Hurts is when he has consistency for the first time in his career. This is the first time that Jalen Hurts has had the same offensive coordinator for two years running since he was in high school and his father was his coach.


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[Assistant] And he gave up the play calling duties to Shane Steichen. Now, Shane Steichen consistently has been Jalen's guy. Last year, all of this year, and look at how Jalen Hurts has blossomed.


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[Assistant] And this is just like, whatever, I'm saying this right now and this is what I feel. I don't think he's signing a 10-year mega-guaranteed contract. I think he's signing a shorter guaranteed contract because he knows the way quarterback salaries are skyrocketing.


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[Assistant] He's betting on himself and he's thinking, okay, well, if this is what the quarterback, if the number is 50 million right now, well, in four years, it might be 75 million. So if I signed for the 50 million a year right now, it's entirely guaranteed. I'm set for life. My kids are set for life. My grandkids are set for life.


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[Assistant] And four years from now, I'll be worth even more, as opposed to being locked into a deal for 10 years.


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[Assistant] Right, which was a calculation that Josh Allen made a year ago, recognizing, okay, I am going to get what's fair to me, but I need to make sure that I have enough tools around me. And he didn't this past year. He needed a number, he needed a number two. He needed another one.


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[Assistant] No disrespect to Gabe Davis, but he needed something more beyond Stefan Diggs. They needed to be able to run the ball better.


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[Assistant] I will say this about Joe Burrow. He is a very, very smart agent. His agent, Brian Aralt, doesn't have...


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[Assistant] Negotiation, I would say that. I do think that Joe Borrow cares about winning more than he does anything else. I do think that Joe Borrow is very, very smart and I think that there is a piece of him


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[Assistant] That knows and recognizes the way Tom Brady made it work and how much money Tom Brady made off the field. And Joe Burrow certainly, I'm sure, Joe Scheiste, Joe Cool, Joe this, his fashion, the way that he takes what he wears to the stadium. He knows that he can make more money. And the best way to make money to be desired as a pitch man is by winning to win


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[Assistant] He might be playing a live or something, you can just coax him, it's very simple. Once my ex-girlfriend after work, she asked me, she said, hey, so annoying. You said, why would the boss reject my proposal? I thought she really wanted to know the reason. I just said directly, I said, because your proposal doesn't work. You see, this is wrong, you have to change it. After ten minutes, I knelt on the ground and said, it's my fault, I change it.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] You have to remember the little things about your girlfriend. Right? One time she asked me, she said, Do you still remember my constellation? I suddenly forgot. But men are very stubborn. We won't admit that we forgot. What do we do? Delay time. Hurry up and remember. The way to delay time is to repeat the girl's question. When she asked me, she said, Do you still remember my constellation? I said, Your constellation? You asked me your constellation?


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[Assistant] 就像我刚才说的,如果你的男朋友在不断重复你的问题, 那就是心虚的表现。


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[Assistant] So uhm, uh, uh, uh,


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[Assistant] What about, did you see when it was getting close? I was like this. Don't hit him. No, I know.


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[Assistant] You saw his hands go up and you thought, oh, this is... I would say who really was mad. To be in front of him. The people that had the money on the game. It was like, no, don't do it. Yea, a lot of money changed hands.


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[Assistant] Well, I had, I said this though. How stupid were the 49ers organization?


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[Assistant] You're already playing with the third screen quarterback, right? And so, you know, going into the playoffs before you set your roster. Yeah.


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[Assistant] He was already playing. Yeah, right. So, you know, he was the third when you're in the regular. See, yeah, I'm like, I have to sign up insurance policy. Yeah, there is hope that I will sign Bernie Kozar because I need to come in here.


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[Assistant] Go ask the people in San Francisco. They rethink. I'm not talking about the management because they already are stupefied by this. Right. Go ask the people that would support the 49 said, how do you go into the playoffs knowing you got the third string and the fourth finger dude is John Johnson.


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[Assistant] And here, it ain't nothing against John Johnson, right? I mean, first I'm gonna get the nine million back in cap space. So it's more money. I'm gonna take that. No, he's just not a good fit here. Right. It just didn't work.


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[Assistant] Right, and for whatever reason, I'm not gonna say it's all John Johnson, some of it's Joe Wood. It's just not a good fit. He never was ever to deliver the goods, right? Yeaah. Now if you're ever to deliver the goods, I might consider the salary cap hit, but nah, I think I can get somebody better than that.


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[Assistant] But now at this point in time, sometimes Jay, when it's, when it's damaged goods, I got to move on because the psyche is damaged and I listen, I'm just going to start with a clean slate.


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[Assistant] Cause you know, you have to go back to John Johnson's press conferences during the year, right?


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[Assistant] You think about those, right? The things he was saying underneath the statements, right? So sometimes it's best for everybody to move on and you get to go on and then, you know, you come up somewhere else, right? Because it's okay.


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[Assistant] There's been a number of players that come through Cleveland and that came here with high expectations. And I'll go across all markets, all high expectations. And then when you get here, it's like,


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[Assistant] What happened? Sometimes, just like I said, I, I, uh, I'll make it more than this, no more than this. Sometimes just doesn't work. It's a square peg and a round hole. That's what it is. And no matter how much you try to force fit it, it never works out well.


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[Assistant] So I don't even think it's a deal like that, right? So you have to sit here and say if I move forward. Yeah, the 20 million looks great.


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[Assistant] I'm not restructuring nothing. Like, I come off a great season. How many people could use me? Yeah, if anything, I want more. I want more money, right? So, uh,


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[Assistant] No, he's not restructuring a thing.


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[Assistant] Yeah, this is, this is. Unless you, unless you lay something heavy on him. This is a little tough. I, you know.


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[Assistant] But G, I'ma tell you something. Smart Money would have been, you'd been on this during the season, right? That was the- You'd been on it during the season.


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[Assistant] The game works like this. People in the market know what, what, how squeeze you are in your cap, right? So then they're going to apply pressure by driving the number. They're going to make you step to the table, right? Say I'm going to force them out of here, right? And you're going to do what? Can't do it.


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[Assistant] You have to bring Anthony Walker back here. First of all, he's making no money. There ain't no money, right? There's little money here. He coming off an injury, so he not, he don't have a whole lot of bargaining chips out here.


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[Assistant] I can't retool everybody, right? I gotta have some stability here, right? Now, going into the season, Anthony Walker was a guy that was supposed to uh, wreak havoc on the defense and then have control over the masses on the defensive side.


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[Assistant] I'm going to bank that that is the cake, right? Because, uh, the quill was even high on Anthony Walker, right? So let's stay back with that, you know, work out some favorable terms here to bring you back, right? And then and see if this can actually, uh, explode under under the new DC Schwartz coordinated position here, right?


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[Assistant] When you're playing at a high level, here's the one thing that you have to remember. They're all professionals, right? You don't need to add no more fuel to the fire.


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[Assistant] I could not understand why they was out there with cigars. You gotta act like you've been here before cigars. Then you start talking about burl head and then the mayor jumped in with the commentary. I was like, dude.


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[Assistant] How, how would they feel if one of the bingo players came to the city council meeting and telling them, do this, do this, telling them, they'd be like, who are you, who are you in here for?


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[Assistant] And Cleveland sports is all about, right? I can vividly remember my father who listened to the Indians at the time on transistor radio every day, sitting in his little perch seat by the front door. You would always hear this drum in the background. I mean it was like,


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[Assistant] It's synonymous with just watching the Tribe play. You know, that was one of the things. Did you ever get to meet John? I never got to meet him. You would have loved him.


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[Assistant] And so I would just, I would just tell you this, that it's a, uh,


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[Assistant] It's sad in that uhm, you know, cause sometimes you think people will be here forever, right? You gonna be here forever, that drum gonna be forever, right?


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[Assistant] The trials and tribulations that people are going through at the time that they're servicing you on the other side, you don't really have an appreciation for it because you're not immersed in it.


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[Assistant] Well, this man gave his, his heart and soul to the Cleveland Indians organization and, and the Guardians organization.


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[Assistant] I just did the math. So he did 81 games a year, 50 years. He did over 4,000 games and I did three and a half hours per game. He's got 14,000 hours at tribe games. 14,000.


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[Assistant] I mean, I don't think we ever know, right? Uh, it was always questioned about Purdy because he had never really, he hadn't been at this level before, but he had been playing very well, right? He had some history with playing against Jalen Hurts. So in college, so there were some things going on here.


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[Assistant] What would have been? Well, we'll never know now. This is all speculation now. I'll go back to what I was saying earlier in the day. Shame on San Francisco for


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[Assistant] Rolling the dice. Cause they had to think about it beforehand.


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[Assistant] They rolled the dice that Garoppolo was probably going to be ready to go at some point in time. Figured that his kid was going well and we had insurance policy in the wing. Well guess what? The premium came doing payable earlier than you thought it was. And you didn't have anything and then they turned to a guy.


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[Assistant] That had been a journeyman at best. And then when he got knocked out, you had to go back to the guy that was clipped.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. They're ridiculous. It's just ridiculous. And couldn't throw the ball more than three yards. Right. Ridiculous.


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[Assistant] You, you, you, you weigh risk to reward. Yeah. And you took a shot, right? It's the wrong shot.


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[Assistant] You have to go to what worst case scenario could be, right? You have to. That's what, that's what GMs do. You have to do that, right? I get that, but like,


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[Assistant] You had to know that I'm at the third string guy who's now my first string guy. So if the third string guy goes down, what are we doing? What are we doing?


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[Assistant] Okay, sorry, Brad, I misinterpreted, I thought you said


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[Assistant] Who made the call? Cause I guarantee you the discussion was had before they set that playoff roster. Who made the call? Cause everybody had to be comfortable with it, right?


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[Assistant] Here's the deal, there's one guy, you got a 53 man roster, right? Everybody wasn't playing in the damn game. Somebody was spared.


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[Assistant] I'm going to bring you back to this. So the Niners.


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[Assistant] Go all in when you get McCaffrey, right? You're all in. You're all in. This thing is rolling, right? So, you know, it's rolling. So here I cannot go into the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I have to make a decision. It's a big boy decision. It's a big girl decision. I'm making a decision here for the betterment of the group because I've got 53 guys here giving their heart and soul to this, to this run.


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[Assistant] You can guarantee that that's going to come out that clubhouse. Oh, I'm sure it will soon.


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[Assistant] I have to stop you here. Right? We saw with our eyes yesterday. What's going on in Maria?


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[Assistant] I kept screaming at the TV all day, I said bring some heat. I couldn't, I couldn't, I thought Joe Woods, I said bring some heat.


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[Assistant] And the game is over. You have to couple that with just this.


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[Assistant] This is not Nintendo, right? This is not going down like that. Now you sprinkle in the other things. The the fuel on the fire that was shoveled on all week by Cincinnati and that even when you're down and we like you not getting me now. I gotta make a play here. I'm gonna make a play here. This is not. This is not happening.


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[Assistant] He pushed Kansas City into the Super Bowl. I can't even get mad at a sigh, right? I mean, he made a play in the heat of the game, right? So.


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[Assistant] And I, what I really appreciated was Taylor's comments after the game. He said, we're gonna blame you on one play.


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[Assistant] You always gonna get, you always gonna get a fool or two saying something.


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[Assistant] Listen, you've been in this, if you've been in this. That's kind of a J.R. Smith move though. I mean, how do you overcome that? But if you've been playing in sports, certain things happen, right? And you have to give grace to that, right? Because the ones, it always kills me. The ones always got something to say, ain't nowhere to be seen when it's time to make a play here.


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[Assistant] I was like this. I was like this. I said, okay, here comes overtime. They just got to whine and say, uh, that's why I went aside was chasing her. Everybody was screaming like this in slow motion.


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[Assistant] That's not, that's not just the coaches. It's like, it's like being in the huddles. Like come on, don't give up a three, don't give up a three. No, no.


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[Assistant] So when you're in situational football, situational sports, what's the first thing you're checking? The clock.


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[Assistant] How much situation? What do we have? I mean, what? And then I go to, okay, here the option somebody has to be like, don't do this.


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[Assistant] You know, I'm checking the comments for the Cincinnati Mayor here, right? And some of the comments just said,


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[Assistant] So that goes three, three, one. If I go all seven, right? So that the eyes turn right. I may prevail. I probably won't prevail at home. I got to just steal one on the road. But now that's not where I want to be. I've got some holes here, right?


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[Assistant] And at some point we have to quit dancing around the holes, right? The holes at the three position, right? Now you have to make a decision who you want. Your three or you.


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[Assistant] It's two ways. One, you need to get tougher defensively. Everybody you got on this team is not a defensive player, right? They're offensive players, which looks good during the season, but when we get to the point...


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[Assistant] Well, I mean, here, Kevin Love is looking aged right now. Man, that happened fast. Well, here, and I was telling somebody this and it's nothing against Kevin. I love Kevin the way he plays. Here's the problem.


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[Assistant] And the last one to know that that's happening is the player, right? We've seen it and those who are watching are seeing this thing turning over here, right? He has moments, right? But they're becoming few and far between.


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[Assistant] Right? So that, if you take him off the rotation, the second, second line, now you got another hole off the bench now, right? Because you were counting on some reduction from him off the bench, right?


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[Assistant] Well see, the problem is now you better figure out what we're doing here, right? We have to, we have to fill the hole at the three. That has to be filled. We have to get better defensively. That's a must, right? Because the games we're losing, we can't stop us all.


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[Assistant] This is when you know when you can consistently get stops when you need them. And that's not in the first quarter.


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[Assistant] It's in late in the game when I say I get a defensive stamp. I put my defensive stamp on this game. You're not getting by anything. They're not that team right now. No, and everybody sees it, right? Are you still on the Carmelo? Is he the guy in the missing link? People, people will be on me like, like, like, I don't know Carmelo Anthony from nobody, right? But I know this.


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[Assistant] I can say I'm Carmelo Anthony for League Mineral. I don't need to play Diaquite. I don't need to go to the practice squad. You stay over there and get better, right? I got an offensive guy, and now I'm going to go find me a defensive guy.


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[Assistant] I, I know the lineages that JB come from. As I told many people for JB, I played for his father's father. So the apple doesn't far, far from the tree. But the one thing that Bernie had with him at all times.


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[Assistant] For somebody of severe knowledge and institution in this game.


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[Assistant] That means you're the older guy. I look at that sideline with JB and they're all nice guys, but they're all young guys. They're all young guys. So he needs that grizzled bitch. I was like, where's the old school guy to be like, look, what do we do?


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[Assistant] But Tyler Lu's been seasoned. He's been around some people.


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[Assistant] Don't be foolish. Steve Kerr had Mike Brown sitting over there next to him, right? Oh yeaah. Right? You gotta have somebody there that has been a little longer than two that may notice. Because when you get to the situational thing,


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[Assistant] Do we have that person? That's my, that's my question to you. That is the, that is the question and nothing gets all those guys. I know those guys. They're good guys. Sure. The problem is here. If you have any aspirations to get better here, you got to have some input for your job is not to just sit there and appease the guy.


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[Assistant] People know stuff around here, right? They see it. They're like, hey, hey, hey, what's going on here? You're getting out work here in the last six, seven minutes of the game.


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[Assistant] And I don't care what profession you're in. You always gotta have a second chair to see something that you don't see and be like, and their job is not to appease you. They'd be like, look, let me tell you what I see here.


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[Assistant] Uh, it is entirely unfair to the fans. I feel bad for them because


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[Assistant] The tickets are pricey, right? And I set aside a thing to take my kids to watch this thing, watch this team play. And then you jerk me at the end and tell me that they're not playing, right? Not a fault of the Cavaliers, but it's a fault of what the league has to let transpire. Adam Silver has to erase, eradicate that. See, by not allowing it to happen.


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[Assistant] I have none. Cause you played them all. Cause my area, we played them all. And here, I'll give you another thing. You know, the Bulls, you know what we were doing? Flying United Airlines commercial. That's what we were flying, right? Flying. Were you really?


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[Assistant] Now everybody's the pisses with the first one to go private. I remember when they were even when we went private. Anybody sitting out like that.


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[Assistant] And in the old school players, there's an affinity to the people. The people make the players.


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[Assistant] It shifted in this league. Where the owners had the rules and the regulations. The players have it back more now.


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[Assistant] Be clear, the player association and the league realize it's an issue.


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[Assistant] What has to happen is, we're going to the mat, this is going to get resolved now.


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[Assistant] And I'll take this thing to the hill, right? There's no way because sometimes you have to sit again. Say a guy's coming off ACL. He has a serious injury.


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[Assistant] And it's a legitimate reason why he can't do it back to back. That's why only two or three players gotta play. Right. I say, but there's a max number of people that can sit on down on this thing, right? And then, and then here's the thing. This is where you have to guard on. Cause they'll get smart on you. All right. These two are out.


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[Assistant] When we were rookies together in Chicago, how much Pete was, Pete was a six-round draftsman at Arkansas Literary. Probably making $150,000. When he was making 60, I had to loan him my car. Like, I had two cars. I said, dude, he didn't have a car. I said, dude, just drive this car. I said, I can't pick you up every day. Just drive the car. I don't care.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but, you know what I'm saying? Because even when you cut me, if I save half of it,


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[Assistant] I won't be able to go to the street and make, but when I get cut, cause the 12th dude not staying around long, when he come back to the real world, Jay, he gonna make three million dollars. Here's what, here's what I would do.


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[Assistant] You ain't even gotta go to that extreme because here, I guarantee you this Jay, there are 70% of the players that understand who they're playing for, right? And will line up every day. There's 30% of the players here


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[Assistant] Who have Jerry rigged the system. Unfortunately, they're the ones that are the superstars to move the deal. Jerry rigged the system to say that, nah, we're not going to do this. Okay, then you're, you're fine. You can do that. That's fine. You can sit because of a coach's decision. You got to go to the mat. The league has to go to the mat with the players and be like, this is getting resolved now.


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[Assistant] People were leaving the state to bid? Yes. Even on the horses? Especially on the horses.


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[Assistant] I bet he's watching us. The Mazemeister. Mister, can you feel him?


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[Assistant] No one knows why or where they are taken, but I intend to get to the bottom of it.


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[Assistant] Well, not as fun as, uh, Super Wild Card weekend was. That's a fact.


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[Assistant] The Bengals are really, really good. Wouldn't surprise me if they're the ones hoisting the Lombardi at the end of the day. They just don't care. They'll play anybody, any place, any time, anyhow. And I heard you guys a little bit earlier wondering if Joe Burrow is borderline arrogant. I'd take him in a second.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean it's just, he's phenomenal. He's not scared.


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[Assistant] He has pinpoint accuracy. Those guys all believe in him. There's...


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[Assistant] We need a massive amount of help along that defensive front unless your name is Myles Garrett. And I think that he'll stick around. I would, I would, I would still give him another opportunity. Wink, wink.


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[Assistant] And I think that that has shown up. Uh, they need more contributions outside of Cooper and People's Jones. I mean, this is nothing new, really.


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[Assistant] There have been more and more edge rushers available. I haven't really started doing my draft prep, so I sit down with our, our guru at NFL Network, uh, with Daniel Jeremiah, and I get like a, uh, an advanced class.


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[Assistant] That they have to make a big step in the right direction next year. Does that mean they have to win the Super Bowl? Probably not. Does it mean that they have to be in the playoff mix? Very much so.


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[Assistant] Everything that's on Kevin Stefanski's plate as well, so he probably will go up to him and be like, I'm good. You go do your other stuff. We got this. So I think it was a good pick up.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, actually on opening night on Sep-, so what was that? September 8th. Every, uh, every opener on a Thursday night or I tweet out a, uh, who I think is gonna go to the Super Bowl and of course I'm miserably off base. I had Philadelphia beating Buffalo on that night, so obviously that's not gonna happen. But I, part of the reason I picked Philadelphia,


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[Assistant] If they can't get him back close to what he was.


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[Assistant] They have to get him believing back in his skills and what he's seeing on the field.


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[Assistant] Like I saw that script. That's why we moved on. Uhm, so they gotta get him trusting himself, using his athleticism.


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[Assistant] Being able to run and hopefully an entire offseason where he knows that


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[Assistant] He's gonna be there for 17 games will help.


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[Assistant] And even in years where the record wasn't good, he was still making tremendous plays. So, we know it's there.


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[Assistant] The question for the Browns is, what Deshaun Watson are you gonna get?


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[Assistant] If you get closer to the last six games of the year they'll have no shot. If you get closer to what we saw at times in Houston, they've got a really good shot.


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[Assistant] I suppose that's, we were trying to figure out last night.


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[Assistant] You know, they didn't have any they could rely on outside of CD lamb. Uhm, you know, you don't think Derry is going to make any.


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[Assistant] He had to yesterday to run the football against San Francisco. It's one of the many reasons I like the Eagles over the Niners this week is that they do have a little bit of trouble with guys who can keep plays alive and can beat you on 8 to 12 yard runs. We know that Jalen Hurts can definitely do that. I mean, he's second in the NFL in rushing touchdowns. Uhm, so.


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[Assistant] They're not built for a downfield passing game. Like, they're built for Lamar Jackson to run it. And...


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[Assistant] No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Uhm, in here today with, uh, Los Angeles legend, fucking dude that I've been listening to and hearing about for a really, really long time. Uh, definitely an entity in these streets. Dom Kennedy, how you doing, man?


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[Assistant] Hell yea, that's what's up. Yeaah. Yeaah, uhm, I'm gonna ask your opinion. What do you think we should do about our employee Hakeem who left the door unlocked back here and we showed up and the store was unlocked in the back. We're trying to figure out what like the just punishment should be for that.


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[Assistant] Which would probably be kind of fucked up in its own way. Yeaah, I know you from uh, Leo over here from Wicked Thoughts. How'd you get involved with him?


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[Assistant] I get that a lot from people who like their 12 year old nephew tells them like, yo, uncle, you gotta go do this podcast.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, you know I used to always talk about you all the time, rest in peace to my friend Gabe Brooks.


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[Assistant] Making more moves in a rap game and stuff. I just meet people all the time who like, I mention him and they're like, oh yea, we knew him back in the day. A lot of people didn't even know he passed.


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[Assistant] Crazy shit that, you know, the kind of stuff that you would probably, like a dude who, you know, grew up in that LA lifestyle, whatever, would probably never talk about with some random person like me unless you were trapped in a car with him for 12 hours.


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[Assistant] You seem like just like a man about town, like you're just very like, you're just a friendly dude who's like open to making connections with people and like you realize the benefit of having a network, you know?


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[Assistant] Definitely, 100%. Yeah, I still remember that like, I was in like the most awkward stage of my life when I was like 12, 13, just starting puberty and that's when Pac and Biggie got killed.


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[Assistant] Definitely. I feel like one, like probably one of the most interesting things about your music is that it's kind of almost like a...


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[Assistant] It took a lot of like integrity and like courage for you to come out the way you did and actually like present life in a different light, like a different perspective.


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[Assistant] But like to come up as a rapper and not at some point get affiliated or like, you know, sorta try to use that as part of your image or whatever, it's like a lot of people might not understand that that really does stand out because it's so easy to like fall in line with that and if you fall in line with that you are biting off a lot more than you might necessarily want.


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[Assistant] And it's just silly to like pretend that everybody comes from the same background, everybody has the same opportunities, you know?


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[Assistant] Yeah, ARCO got that, they got a 25 cent fee too. So shit's real fucked up now. No, but you know how they're the only one that charges you that fee?


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[Assistant] You're right, that's not even really that late now. A lot of the rappers I see coming out, if they don't have somebody like, completely like, cosigning them and taking over their career super early on, it's usually, you know, 18, 19, 20.


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[Assistant] Definitely. Yeaah, it's crazy because when you think about it, somebody like Game came out super labeled up, like, but he got in with the label, already had that shit.


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[Assistant] In 2008, 2008 is like the ultimate time where all of a sudden it became like YouTube is a big deal and MySpace is a big deal. All of a sudden you had all these blogs that were just writing about different types of artists that weren't necessarily like the


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[Assistant] Even, it's interesting though too because a couple years after that is like Odd Future and shit, which is that introduced like, oh look, like the weirdest, most non-rapper type motherfuckers on earth can come out and blow up just because they're popping on the internet. It doesn't matter if the industry is necessarily supporting them.


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[Assistant] What was it about you as a person that you were able to turn down those like label offers and everything? Cause I see a lot of kids who, you know, they get 20,000


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[Assistant] Something like that dangled in front of him and all of a sudden it's pfft. Let's go.


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[Assistant] That shows like a real different mentality than the average like person that comes out wanting to be a rapper. Cause especially these days it feels like people who come out wanting to be rappers, they just want to be celebrities one way or another.


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[Assistant] I know a lot of people couldn't even conceptualize the fact that 10 years is still kind of the short term. You know, you're still a young man in the gen- overall realm of shit and it's like 10 years ain't really like- a lot of people-


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[Assistant] Their business or like whatever they're doing with their life, they're still struggling, like they're still working at it well into their 30s, 40s. People think that your life is over when you hit 29, you know?


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[Assistant] Right. Uhm, wait, how'd you sign J305? That's very interesting.


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[Assistant] We'll kinda like give up and like not be able to like do that shit independently. Like what, what, what did you need to know that let, that helped you get to that point?


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, personality that people perceive you having, you know.


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[Assistant] Who do you, like say you hop in the car tomorrow morning, what are you most likely listening to?


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[Assistant] You kinda came out during the era, there was like a weird era where like the CD sorta died, but streaming and downloads hadn't picked up yet. Exactly.


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[Assistant] Definitely. How do you feel about like the streaming era and everything like that? Do you feel like you've adapted to it and you appreciate it?


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[Assistant] Yeah, cause Apple really like sabotaged their own business by saying like, oh, all these downloads, fuck it. Here, you're spending 10 bucks on an album, well give us 10 bucks a month and we'll give you everything.


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[Assistant] And how it wasn't even supposed to be out for the public, it was supposed to be just for the hood. That's what he told me. I was like, man, that's crazy to think that that wasn't even supposed to be for people and that all the lyrics are things that people aren't supposed to get, but it still took off.


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[Assistant] True, yeaah. As crazy as he is. He lets you in. He'll let you know how crazy he is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, free grito, that's crazy. Uhm, speaking of though, how do you feel, like I remember you had this, this publicized sort of incident where you said something about Funkflux, all the websites decided that they wanted to run with it because he had disrespected Tupac. Right.


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[Assistant] It's crazy though too how the media can choice stuff cause I'm friends with Grillo's manager, he's in the room when that whole thing happened and he was describing it to me and he said that they just kept asking Grillo about all these different rappers.


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[Assistant] The way that these kids feel right now is the way that I felt when Tupac died and then all of a sudden TMZ was out in front like yo we gotta talk to you about that.


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[Assistant] No, I feel that, yea, he somehow like meant, like Biggie, when we look at him as like a technician, as a rapper, as a, uh, like just like a hilarious writer of lyrics, with Tupac, it was so much more about who he was than just the music, although it was definitely the music too, like he definitely had that part.


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[Assistant] That's a fact. Uhm, so when you look at your, how'd you become friends with Quik? Cause I've always been fascinated by him in general.


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[Assistant] So talk about like your, where you're at right now, new music you have coming out, shit you have right now that you're excited about, just in general, like where you're at with the music.


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[Assistant] Uhm, alright, yo man, I appreciate you coming through. Big shout out to Wicked Thoughts for bringing us together, man. That's one of my favorite LA brands.


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[Assistant] I'm saying. I know these kids are going crazy. Crazy. He's not that much of a kid. You're kind of fat now. Uhm, alright. Yo, I appreciate it. Don Kennedy, everybody. Thank you, man.


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[Assistant] If you look at some of the DVOA, which is a very popular advanced analytics. Especially now. Yes. You look at, in his years as either a head coach or a DC, which I believe is 10 total years I think, maybe 12. I think 12. I think it's 12. 10 of those 12 years, he was top half of the league. 6 of the 12 years,


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[Assistant] He was top ten. So like, he's had, and his only really terrible year was his first year in Detroit when he was the head coach his first year there. Well, he inherited a bad team. Yes, and his only two really bad defenses were both in Detroit.


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[Assistant] Well, I still think in the grand scheme of things for the team that wide receiver is the most important thing, but I think defensive tackle is a close second for me.


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[Assistant] And I would say yes. I mean, obviously they're going to upgrade the talent there. I would also say that hopefully, because you're not going to replace every single defensive tackle on the roster. No. Right? I would think that hopefully Jim Schwartz will see something in at least one or two of the guys they currently have. Jordan Elliott.


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[Assistant] I assume he's going to be franchise-tagged, but I think, like, I know the Browns can't just go bananas spending money this offseason, but I was reading an article this weekend about how the Browns could save 50 million in captain base without cutting a single player. Like, there's ways around these things.


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[Assistant] Probably, but I'm not sure who else they have as free agents, so, and maybe whatever their philosophy is, you know, franchise taking defensive tackle, I don't know. But if he goes out there, that should be the number one target, because he is a game changer for them in the run.


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[Assistant] My problem, I just disagree that they didn't care about defensive tackle. My problem with the Browns is they just don't know how to pick defensive tackle. They haven't picked the right guys. They've cared about it. They spent draft capital on it. They just got it wrong.


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[Assistant] I think the beef is more their ability to recognize talent defensive tackle and their ability to coach talent.


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[Assistant] He was like a consultant, uh, he was like their Yoda, as the way it was described by, by something you were reading about Jim Schwartz's overall.


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[Assistant] By the way, Domic and Sue was drafted in Jim Schwartz's second year in Detroit. So, and he was an all-pro, not a pro bowler, but an all-pro. Wasn't he the number two overall pick?


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[Assistant] Same thing with Sue. Sue had his best years in Detroit. You know, before moving on.


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[Assistant] No, but it doesn't mean you can't be aggressive in the secondary, which the Browns were not. I don't, I don't know what, uh,


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'd be, I'd be thrilled with the corners I have. I know they, you know, the two veteran, well, veteran. I mean, Greg Newsom was only in his second year. Neither one of those guys had great ears, but I think there's a ton of talent at corner. I just think it was misused.


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[Assistant] I mean, I'm okay with their secondary, they, they pro- and, well frankly they need another defensive end too.


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[Assistant] Unless you get lucky on a couple of those guys being small, free agent signings that are good.


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[Assistant] Well all of a sudden if you sign, uh, uh, you know, if you bring in between the draft and free agency and you bring in


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[Assistant] three new starters betwe draft and a couple of the y could be a totally differe go the other way. You coul they could suck also, you k but yeah, you're not gonna,


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[Assistant] I would just say in terms of player acquisition overall over the last three years, I think they're, I don't think they've been terrible, but they certainly haven't been great.


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[Assistant] There's two things that concern me about this move.


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[Assistant] That Jim Schwartz, has he got the last name? Schwartz. He should be Jewish. That's a Jewish last name.


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[Assistant] And it said Jim Schwartz was not a Jew. Wait, is there a sign, is there literally a sign? Apparently there is. I googled, I googled. It's called Jew or not a Jew? Yes, I googled, is Jim Schwartz Jewish? Because I was curious because it's a Jewish last name.


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[Assistant] Whenever I speak to, when I've talked to, like, up and coming sports radio people or sports people in Cleveland, or whatever, anybody coming up, I'm always like, do your job as if you're trying to get a job in New York. Whether you want to work in Cleveland your rest of your life, do your job as if you're trying to get a job in New York.


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[Assistant] Andy will rock the boat. Where did he have his best success as the DC and Philly? What was the situation there? A younger head coach.


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[Assistant] Right? Who was an offensive guy. Sure. Same thing. I, I mean, and I was reading, I can't even remember whose article I was reading. I was reading so many articles this morning. But, but basically that this person was saying that like, they're, Stefanski and Schwartz are a good combo because Schwartz is gonna basically be the head coach of the defense. Right. And he's not looking to take Kevin Stefanski's job.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there you go. No doubt about it, uh, DeQuel did pronounce it wrong too. By the way, speaking of pronunciations, somebody, today is James Earl Jones' 92nd birthday. And I think we'd all agree that if you had to hire someone to narrate your life, you'd pick James Earl Jones. Is there any better choice?


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[Assistant] But somebody in honor of his 92nd birthday, I don't know who did this, but somebody tweeted out an old video from 40, 50 years ago of James Earl Jones doing the voice for a documentary about the Cuyahoga River. And in that documentary, he said Cuyahoga. No kidding. Which means the power to defeat old men.


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[Assistant] Because I don't know what Deshaun Watson is. We can talk about the defense all we want. They can fix the run defense, they can play well. Deshaun Watson has to be Deshaun Watson. Especially in the AFC. You can get away with mediocre quarterback play in the NFC. You can't get away with that in the AFC. Because all the good quarterbacks in the league right now are in the AFC. That's just the way it is.


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[Assistant] Chiefs and, and uh, Bills are good. You know, barring catastrophic injuries are probably going to be in the playoffs every year. All these quarterbacks are under 26 years old. Yes.


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[Assistant] Two all pros, right? The rest of the division combined has two all pros. So I get it, they have some like really elite caliber players, but they have other spots where they've got zeros and you can't afford that.


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[Assistant] Ultimately, this regime is going to be graded based on what happens with Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] Yeah, by the way, I really feel like Dallas is gonna beat San- I have Dallas to San Francisco as my NFC championship game because I thought the Vikings were gonna win. Dallas is such an enigma.


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[Assistant] No, I don't watch that. No, no, and then we watched the Giants Vikings game. The Giants were excellent. They played great.


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[Assistant] And then the, uh, I was sweating out. The Bengals did not play well, uh, obviously. And that was game, but that man, that, that fumble touchdown was unbelievable.


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[Assistant] We just, again, I don't understand in 2023 why we don't have a replay official in every stadium at minimum for the playoffs to get the call. I don't want to hear about


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[Assistant] Supposedly somebody vet over a million dollars when the charges were up 27 nothing to win 11,000.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming that person's super wealthy, but like, what would be the point?


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[Assistant] Uh, let's talk about memberships guys. Yeah, absolutely. Yes, uh, the starters tier there for $1.99. That's perfectly acceptable, but.


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[Assistant] We will really encourage you to get on the coaches tier for just $4.99 per month, which totals less than $60 a year. You'll get all the things in the starters tier, the overtime videos, the member shout outs, the discount codes, uh, all the emojis and all these other things.


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[Assistant] But the overtime, we've been doing, I don't know, between 8 and 12, 13 minutes per show. Whatever we are on in studio, we do it overtime. There's been a couple of times we haven't, but for the most part, 99% of the time there's overtime. It's content, it'll be many hours of content over a year that nobody else has access to unless you are a


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[Assistant] I don't think they're mutually exclusive. I agree. I think they can get more out of it. I'm not saying they're not talented. I think I thought they were top five talent roster. I don't think they're quite that high. I think they're top half of the league talent.


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[Assistant] And I think they should get more out of the coaching staff, especially on the defensive side. But there are some clear holes on this team talent wise.


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[Assistant] Didi, on an unrelated note, what's your, what's some of your takeaways from this weekend as a whole in the NFL playoffs?


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[Assistant] But I, I think like Adam that that was a mistake. Again, I understand wanting time to expire. I get it. But he should have used his, at least one of those. You don't want to go from a minute to, once you get down to 30 seconds, does it matter if there's eight seconds left?


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[Assistant] Didi, can we get Andrew Whitworth to play left tackle for the Bengals this weekend? What do you think? We need him.


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[Assistant] You heard it here first, Dallas wins. Heard it here first. I wouldn't be surprised at all.


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[Assistant] Right, and that's my point. No, the Browns do have talent, but like...


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[Assistant] They made the playoffs because Trevor Lawrence the second half of the season played great and they were in a bad division. And their coach coached the hell out of the guys and got more out of them.


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[Assistant] I agree, but I just don't think we can definitively say the Browns are more talented than the Jags. We don't, because guys, guys like Donovan Peoples-Jones, guys like Greg Newsome, like the second and third tier players, we don't know those guys on the Jaguars. We don't know who they are.


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[Assistant] With the exception of one. It's the good games that are consistently there. It is. That's what separates. The one-offs.


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[Assistant] Like, you know, maybe Miami, maybe Jacksonville will see if they can get back this year, but it's the team. And that's a lot of people thought that about the Bengals coming into this year. There are fraud, you know, but you got to do it and they still got to prove it because they've only done it two years. Unlike the Chiefs. There were a lot of people picked.


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[Assistant] Wait, remember Mighty Magiswords? Mighty Magiswords was Cartoon Network's whirlwind of fantasy-fueled and collectible driven cartoon that told the adventures of sibling duo Vanbur and Prohius. Initially made specifically for Cartoon Network's online platform, Cartoon Network Anytime, the series started out as these incredibly small shorts that started to grow longer and longer and eventually would transition into a full series from there.


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[Assistant] Chief Content Officer Rob Sorcher stated that taking the series in such small progression was something that the network had never done before, making Mighty Magiswords definitely one of a kind.


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[Assistant] The first short premiered online on May 5th, 2015, and the series grew and grew, and over a year later, its first official air date was September 29th, 2016 on Cartoon Network.


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[Assistant] Mighty Magiswords centers around a brother-sister duo who run a Warriors for Hire business in which anyone can hire them to complete various tasks. Each task is unique and varies in degrees of difficulty. But both Vanbur and Prohias' main objectives is to find and grow their collection of Magiswords. But in reality, they're just trying to run away from the reality of their adulthood. And if you've ever seen my Pokemon collection, this is totally not something that I'd ever try to do.


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[Assistant] She often prides herself on being very opinionated, preferring fancier food as opposed to her brother's favorite slug burger fast food restaurant. She does give into childish behavior sometimes when she's around her brother, who is in reality extremely similar to her. She's actually the only one in her family that speaks with an English accent, which would prove why her accent drops at times or sounds off occasionally.


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[Assistant] Again, it's fake. Her highest warrior is voiced by creator of the series, Kyle Karoza. He is the more impulsive one of the two of them.


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[Assistant] He takes on a sort of himbo personality, preferring brawn over brains, but despite that, he could be pretty emotionally intelligent. His favorite magisword is actually more like his pet, a dolphin sword that was actually his first. Their relationship is pretty solid and normal for a regular brother-sister duo.


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[Assistant] Also voiced by Grey Delisle, who is the ruler of the land with a stereotypical valley girl attitude. And Witchy Simone, friend of the siblings who manages Slug Burger.


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[Assistant] The series was created by Kyle Kuroza, who before getting his own series, had worked on other shows in the past like Fanboy and Chum Chum and Fish Hooks. Kyle had created a version of the characters of Vanbur and Prohius back in his high school days in 1996. His original idea was Legendary Warriors for Hire.


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[Assistant] His idea kept growing and growing within the ten years he was pitching his creative thoughts. His ideas were all initially without swords and centered around the two characters in a JRPG-inspired fantasy world like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI. Inspired by these games, he came up with his own band of warriors. Originally pitching a different idea, Cartoon Network turned him down due to having another project in the works that was a little bit too similar. So instead, they landed on his older developed idea of the fantasy world focused on the sibling warriors for a higher duo.


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[Assistant] Both the network and Kyle acknowledged that they needed a hook, another element to draw the viewer in and make the world more interesting. This is where the Magisword idea comes into play. Kyle wanted something to pull the fans in and make the series more interactive outside of the screen. By incorporating the concept of these collectibles, the Magiswords,


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[Assistant] Kyle felt that the audience could relate to the characters more by also collecting them themselves. And in a way, it is genius due to how many shows relying on the success of their toy market.


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[Assistant] Although the swords didn't take the market by storm, the effect was still there and the fandom culture between the characters in the series and the viewers was a great place to connect.


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[Assistant] There are over 200 swords that we get to experience in the run of the show. Some major players include THE DOLPHIN SWORD.


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[Assistant] And yea, they say it just like that every time there's a new Magisword that gets brought out. And fun fact, Kyle, who voices Prohias, is actually a musician who plays the accordion, and is heavily inspired in his music by Weird Al Yankovic. It's also a clever little opportunity to incorporate other popular Cartoon Network shows into the Magiswords for a fun little crossover event, like the Teen Titans Go! Robin-themed Magisword called Annoying Detective Magisword.


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[Assistant] Other shows that are featured in The Swords include We Bare Bears, Ben 10's Villainous, Steven Universe, The Amazing World of Gumball, Adventure Time, and OK KO. Once the full concept of the series was developed, Cartoon Network first had Kyle develop the series in the form of shorts for their CN Anything app.


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[Assistant] He was able to show a multitude of different stories, exhibiting the storytelling potential that Vamber and Prohias and their Magiswords possessed. From there, the shorts would get longer until the show was eventually picked up and turned into an actual series. In creating his smaller and runtime shorts, he found himself voicing many of the male characters, and the network liked it that way, bringing him on for the voice of Prohias for the official series.


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[Assistant] Mighty Magiswords has some pretty mixed reviews. A lot of the negative sentiments can be attributed to the extremely fast pacing, which often allows a lot of the jokes to fly over the viewer's heads. Specifically for a younger audience, and on the other hand of that, go by too fast for older audiences to even enjoy. The voice acting is actually incredibly strong with the main characters, but can feel a bit too much of the same when voice actors are recycled for other side characters.