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[Assistant] They need, I've been watching the games, they need more penetration. They need, if you're gonna play wide like that.


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[Assistant] Your defensive tackles have to change the line of scrimmage. They can't just hold because there's such wide gaps. They're playing two eyes right now inside the shoulders of the, uh, of the guard. Do you like that by the way? I mean, I don't, I don't like it if you don't change the line of scrimmage.


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[Assistant] You gotta have two. You gotta have something. Like, I want, I don't, I want, I want him to understand that. Look, stop waiting on Miles Garrett to make these plays. Sometimes Miles Garrett is so good.


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[Assistant] Zedarius Smith talks about he has free reign. You know, when he talk about why he like Jim shorts, he say he just tells you to go out and play. You know, Miles Garrett is just that good. Like, you know. It doesn't make sense that he


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[Assistant] You know what I'm saying, this got to be some third and long type stuff. See, but the thing, Tyves, you trying to have it both ways. It's risk reward. It's a dangerous game you play.


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[Assistant] Uh, Travis, how are the two guys, uh, two of our old buddies, um, we sent JJ3 back to, uh, back to the Rams and then the other nickel corner. Who do we have? Ty Hill, right? Yeah, Ty Hill. No, George Hill. No, it's Ty Hill. George Hill's a basketball player.


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[Assistant] How are those guys doing out there? Have they rebounded and have they made an impact for the Rams defense this year?


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[Assistant] You know, for us, we talk about it here. Sometimes, I kind of compared it to defensive lineman on the other hand. We talk about whether Zedaria Smith has had a down year or whether he's been disappointing. I say, you know, sometimes you get this thing where defensive lineman, you're trying to develop other guys to be a running mate.


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[Assistant] And it just seems like they're just looking at Miles Garrett and being like, oh.


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[Assistant] He's pretty good, or Aaron Donnell. And I wouldn't even say it's more impressive. I always give the nod to a defensive tackle. Who's that dominant?


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[Assistant] Because it is just that more difficult to get. I mean, you got, I mean, you're in a phone booth. And the way he's able to get to the quarterback, uh, it's just, it's amazing. It's just, to me, he's the best defensive actor ever. He may be the best defensive lineman ever.


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[Assistant] I want to see if the Browns come out with that same level of urgency to say we need to, eight and four, it looks a lot better. Like the Rams, the Browns playoff culture in the Rams.


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[Assistant] Next week is, is it Jags at Home? I think so.


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[Assistant] You gotta think, Deion Sanders is playing in the era of the greatest receivers of all time.


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[Assistant] When you say I'm locking up with Jerry Rice, when I'm, when I'm mano-a-mano with guys like Michael Irvin, when I'm out there playing against, uh, Art Monkey, guys like that. Bro, listen, Deion Sanders is the first and only corner to matter.


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[Assistant] We're not debating the best corners. No, no, no, no, no. He's the first corner that you even knew. Like, when you change the game so much that it's just you.


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[Assistant] No one even knew about corners. They're like, I'll go grab two or three corners, throw them around, do something.


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[Assistant] You couldn't even throw over there. He, he, he, he took the whole half of his field and said, don't even think about it. So where is he for you in the Pantheon? He's definitely, listen, so I, I, I've thought about this. I, you know, my countdowns always go, I flip-flop, I got Reggie White in my top five.


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[Assistant] I got uh, Lawrence Tillman in the top 5. I have Dion Sanders in the top 5. I have Ronnie Lott in the top 5. And now, and now I have Aaron Donnell in the top 5. And what about Reggie White? Did you say Reggie White? Yeah, Reggie was first.


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[Assistant] I'm willing to put up number one, if this number is what I think it is.


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[Assistant] Rice's numbers are better than Jim Brown's numbers. In terms of, yea, if you're gonna compare the two.


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[Assistant] 92 receptions for 1211 yards and 7 touchdowns and he was 41 years old.


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[Assistant] Chris Carter. Tara Owens has crazy numbers though.


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[Assistant] Uh, uh, 1157 and 1136. Zero Hall of Fame Seasons. My boy Mike Thomas. Oh, by the way!


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[Assistant] Well, Amari Cooper will. Amari Cooper's better than that. Odell had a thousand that year too. We had two receivers with a thousand.


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[Assistant] And a personal trainer and they talk about all the different things that he does to get ready. It's worth going to watch. It's out there on the internet. Um, cause he actually takes a lot of his, his, you know, his cues from LeBron James and being able to get back and be able to play.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and I think he talked about in that documentary, the stuff that he does has allowed him not to have these sort of evasive insur- like, uh, surgeries. So the move is now a lot of people are going towards, you know, the thought process for a lot of people back in the day was,


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[Assistant] You get scoped, you scrape it out, you do different things, but now people are realizing that.


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[Assistant] I wonder, did he have any Lebron's guys on his team? He had, I don't know if he had them on his team, but he spoke specifically about how Lebron had them.


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[Assistant] That's a lot of weight and pressure to be getting down 50 snaps a game, having 280 pounds leaning on your shoulder. So my thing is, yeaah, he still has to rip, but here's the thing.


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[Assistant] This is a time period where you gotta come with more moves. Sometimes, like, yeaah, if you can't rip and you can't swim.


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[Assistant] You better be feeling, figuring out something else to do. Cause you gotta have multiple counter moves, cause trust me.


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[Assistant] They are looking for those. They looking for, they are looking for waves.


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[Assistant] I'm excited about, uh, I'm excited about seeing what Joe Flacco will talk about.


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[Assistant] Nah, he's a veteran, he's gotta be right now. If he looks good, if he looks good and he beats the Rams, I'm riding it, I'm riding out with Flacco. I'm not switching nothing back, like, unless he get on something.


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[Assistant] Gee, you've been pretty silent. Listen, I look at it like this, man. I think I'm the most aggressive.


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[Assistant] The strategy says I should hit on certain numbers. Sure. And so I'm here. It might be ugly for the first three, first three years. They have not paid the dividends, but


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[Assistant] What's worse than that is going back five or six years when you was, you know, you didn't have it. You had Cody Pestler, did the Sean Kizers. No, but they didn't.


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[Assistant] Because we, we had the four years with Baker Mayfield. Like, sometimes when you rolled a dice and we rolled that all the way to the end. We did. To see what happens. Now, you two, three years in. If I turn around and amnesty him, I'm not gonna get no pigs back. No.


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[Assistant] It's not like people are knocking down the door for Kirk Cousins when he signed his deal. No. The Minnesota Vikings is like, mmmm, there's fans that probably think, like, he's the same thing. He's injured. But he got paid. He's injured.


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[Assistant] Erase these two weeks. Erase these two weeks. Go back to the way he played against Baltimore, and there's 75-80% of the people that's saying the Browns can win the Super Bowl. I agree with that statement.


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[Assistant] The best players were picked by John Dorsey. The guys that are carrying him have not been brought in by them. Martin Emberson is by them. Okay, that's Martin Emberson. But look at all the rest of the guys. The pillars, the guys you hang your head on.


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[Assistant] No, he was the regime before. So what I'm saying is these dudes haven't picked nobody.


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[Assistant] We were told by Kevin Stefanski that this was a new and improved offense and we kinda just threw that away to the wind.


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[Assistant] It ain't new and improved. It's the same thing we've seen. And to me, if you're going to have to, if you're going to give Deshaun Watson a best chance to, to, to be the guy that he was in Houston.


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[Assistant] Dum-dums ain't gon' tackle. They ain't gotta worry about offensive linemen up front. As D linemen, we like, listen, we better get off these blocks. This is gon' be a knife fight for all these minutes. They can dance if they want to. You better have your mind ready up front. All that cute little backing up and dancing and...


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[Assistant] Michigan is married to the ugly stuff. They married to saying, I'm gonna hit you in the mouth, and when you know it's fourth and two, we still gonna hit you in the mouth when we getting these points. We gonna get these first downs, that's it.


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[Assistant] I'm G Bush, El Presidente of the Kool-Aid Mafia. I'm going to tell you which is more likely, Cedric Tillman catching the touchdown pass or the Cleaver Browns getting points on the board with a touchdown. We'll let you know. Jason.


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[Assistant] Well listen, I think he's gonna do a BA. He has the experience level.


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[Assistant] Right now for the next five games, I think Joe Flacco is locked in and he's playing like the young Joe Flacco and excited to be back in the league.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've been good with you, Jason. Uh, Mark Cooper is the guy for me.


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[Assistant] He's the, he's the guy that spreads the field. He's the guy that's running the deeper routes, the 10, 12, the 15, 20 yard routes.


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[Assistant] They need those routes. They need that to be a threat in this offense because if they don't have that, the field gets constricted very quickly. So when you look at it, Mario Cooper has to catch the football, can't fumble the football. I think he'll bounce back in this game.


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[Assistant] But, but by far to me, Amari Cooper is a guy that really gives you the explosive plays, the big chunk plays, and they need that aspect, uh, in that offense.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go, this may seem tough, I'm gonna go with the Bears.


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[Assistant] I like Montez Sweat and the fact that he's been playing so much better.


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[Assistant] Uh, and the defense is playing so much better for the Bears since CZE's come along the last five or six games. And the reason I give them the edge is because of the perimeter of our offensive line. When you look at Hudson,


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[Assistant] He's had a lot of penalties, he's had a lot of jumping penalties, and those penalties when you got an offense that is not going to be explosive, it needs to move the chains, stay ahead of the sticks, you can't have that.


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[Assistant] To me, uhm, their, their defensive line is a little bit better than the Browns, given the fact that they're tackles. In the middle, we know it's solid. We know what we got in Teller and Botonio. Poaches hasn't played it as well. And if Poaches is not in the game, that means you got Harris. And so now you just have the two.


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[Assistant] So for me, I'm gonna go with the Bears by a small margin, uh, because I just like their edge, edge rushers better than our attackers.


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[Assistant] Now, now listen, I've been drinking a Kool-Aid, it's still in my system.


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[Assistant] But I haven't drank it in 24 hours, so I'm gonna have to go the opposite way. Justin Fields throwing for 250 is not too far-fetched, especially because I think that the Bears are gonna be down in this football game. I don't think they're gonna be able to run the football on the Cleveland Browns. They have more of a three-headed monster type running game. I don't believe that's gonna get it done. Justin Fields got 250 because he's gonna throw it.


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[Assistant] Oh man, this is, this is easy. The Browns rush for more than 200 yards, uh, as a team. I can't see less than 50. Less than 50 is Mnemoski at best.


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[Assistant] Alright, listen, 200 yards. You do have Jerome Ford. You have a couple guys. I like Pierre Strong. I think that if he got enough carries...


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[Assistant] He can really start breaking off some longer carries. You saw A-Hive Jerome Ford, who's shown a D to get around the corner and has long break, breakaway ability as well. He's shown that in other games. So for me, uhm, to run the play action that they want to run, you have to run the football. So therefore I don't think the game, the game plan is going to be


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[Assistant] Yeah, listen, let's get ready for the Kool-Aid flavors. This is gonna be a good one right here. Uhm, Browns is 5-in-1 at home. Hit em' up!


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[Assistant] I wouldn't sit with him and be like, you need a spot, I need a spot soon.


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[Assistant] No, like I could go say, for instance, I was doing some business there.


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[Assistant] She's like, oh, okay, well, uh, I got business there too. My business is just hanging out. So I'm going to be there as well. Like, there's, like, show me, don't let me go on no trips. No business trips. You must not be worried about marriage to no Filipino women.


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[Assistant] And Jim Schwartz just turns everybody like J.O.K. into monsters.


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[Assistant] First thing that's gonna happen, you look at it, first of all he's gonna be reinvigorated because, guess what? He's not on a team that's not playing well.


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[Assistant] You're gonna be automatically on a team that is in contention.


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[Assistant] For a chance to get to play this defense with that coach and letting you play your game.


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[Assistant] And you ain't gotta be the focal point of what's happening. You just gotta make a couple plays a game. Maybe he gets to run. Man, that's a beautiful thing. I'd be on the first thing smoking. I would tell other teams, don't you claim me? They ain't claim-


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[Assistant] And if somebody does claim me, I'm telling my agent, no, I only want to go here. You can do that. I'm not coming to your spot. You can't do that. Because I'm going to tell you what, the way, the way Jim Schwartz have these dudes looking like on the field,


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[Assistant] I feel like when I'm watching him, I got three, four plays left in me, but I don't.


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[Assistant] And at this age of your career and with the injuries, playing those games go directly to your life points.


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[Assistant] Like, they, they deduct your life points, like, so you lose, like, days on the earth, on the back.


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[Assistant] And a lot of people get caught up with, well nobody else wants them. Nobody else wants them. Nobody else. Mike was like.


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[Assistant] No one else was going to look at those guys bringing people to supplement their people. Because look.


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[Assistant] You now in the middle of the season, you can't bring any, if anybody gets hurt or anything happens.


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[Assistant] You're at, you're on a scrap heap now. Right. You're just, you're just messing around.


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[Assistant] They have to, they have to do everything they can to make the defense even stronger just because they need to be able to cover up for what they have in offense. And it's a no-brainer.


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[Assistant] Joe Burrow's out for the year. He missed, he gonna miss the rest of this year. He missed the whole year with the ACL. Or he missed most of the off-season with the ACL. And he came back and people was like, is Joe Burrow gonna suck? And you're like, no, he's not.


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson didn't miss those games because he was injured. He missed them because he was in trouble. Agreed. But he was just sitting there.


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[Assistant] Yes, so if, if it was, I would take the just chillin' rest over I'm hurt rest.


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[Assistant] I'm chillin' Russ. Like, he was ready to go. He got to sit out 11 games. He sat out a whole year with the Texans. He played six games. And then, you know, he got the little games that he played this year. And the reason why I say zero is because...


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[Assistant] I mean the dude just beat the Baltimore Ravens on the road. Like.


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[Assistant] Like, it's kinda like, once he did that, I was like, alright, he's good.


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[Assistant] I think Deshaun Watson is built for it, to be honest with you. He went through a lot in his life when he was younger, with his mom having cancer and things like that, not knowing his dad grew up in a rough upbringing. My thing is, he shows you what he's about.


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[Assistant] Like, there's, so you know, sometimes when you get the last thing you see,


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[Assistant] Is yo, you know, some success about yourself. And people say, well, he hasn't, uh, you know, gotten back to the Houston Texans with Sean Watson. And I just, I feel like...


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[Assistant] Nobody is that, is, is Houston Texans. Like, that's like saying I wish G. Bush would get back to the, to the barbershop G. Bush three years ago.


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[Assistant] Different person than I was three years ago. And so for Deshaun Watson, it's not about getting back to that. It's about what does the Deshaun Watson look like today? And I think we can all agree that the Deshaun Watson today, if he was not hurt, and the Browns are playing the way they are defensively,


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[Assistant] We'd have them as a serious, serious Super Bowl contender. Just by the way he was playing then.


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[Assistant] Just why the way he played against Baltimore. If we could get that to Sean Watt, forget the Texans win. We, you, you pay a quarterback $230 million for what you can do in the World Cup.


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[Assistant] Well, no, I think it's his spots. I think if you telling me 14 out of 14 against the best defense in the game, that's, that's.


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[Assistant] Well, that doesn't matter. I mean, that doesn't matter. And the crazy part about it is their team is so good, they probably could beat 90% of the world.


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[Assistant] I got it on my, how many teams is it? 32. So I'm breaking down into 10s. Top 10, 10 to 20 in the bottom.


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[Assistant] The more annoying part is not the fact that they think that Deshaun Watson is not what he thought he was. It's the fact that he hasn't played enough for them to be comfortable in their heart of hearts of saying, I want to be either all in or all not. That people don't like being lukewarm or not.


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[Assistant] If, like I accidentally, is Joe Burrow, are you concerned about his long term health? I'm not, no. No.


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[Assistant] I mean, you have the wrist. Ligament damage in your wrist is devastating for a guy who has to hold the ball.


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[Assistant] Okay, so he had a calf injury. He's a mobile guy.


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[Assistant] But, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. When you say he missed him games. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] I don't know! Here's what I think. I don't think, I don't think Deshaun Watson...


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[Assistant] Due to the coach, due to the system, and due to who the Cleveland Browns are as an organization.


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[Assistant] He's never, he's never gonna put the numbers he'd put up in Houston. Ever. I don't think so either.


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[Assistant] I don't even think Patrick Mahomes is the same Patrick Mahomes three years ago.


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[Assistant] Russ had his time. You know, he had it, he did his thing. A lot of these quarterbacks, you gotta be, and that's the thing.


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[Assistant] There's only a couple quarterbacks that stand alone that you could put out there to be like, alright, win me some games.


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[Assistant] Russ got to have something around him. He got to have a defensive run game around him, right? He not going to go out there and throw for 400 and do all that stuff. So, you know, I don't think just Sean Watson, like I said, I'm just out.


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[Assistant] If you waiting for Deshaun Watson as Houston to walk through the door, that's not going to happen. But what you can get from Deshaun Watson today is good enough to win you some games. Uh, good enough to get you to the Super Bowl, right? He's more mobile. Uh, you know, I like, you know, traditionally his decision making is better. He, uh, he's a leader. And at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] That's the going rate. I think a lot of people don't, don't, don't, once again still don't understand. There is no, there's no choice in the 230.


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[Assistant] I think we get caught up in it. Let me ask you a question. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Before they give him the 230 guaranteed or whatever they're getting. So why didn't you have a problem before? I think we used to get caught up in the money and, and we just, oh my God, it's crazy. Uhm, but look, gimme, gimme, gimme this Sean Watson, man. You know, he'll be back next year and he gonna continue to...


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[Assistant] Keep pressing away, keep knocking away. I like to call them Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns might be the Denver Nuggets of football.


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[Assistant] Uh, because they plodded along, plodded, they kept adding pieces here and there, plodding along and then they got


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[Assistant] Yokish to become yokish. Yokish when an MVP to start off with.


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[Assistant] He's a guy hangin' behind Irkutsk. They went and got some guys, they figured out, like, let's take a chance on Porter, and they got that.


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[Assistant] So the Browns is still a work in progress. Like, the Browns need another receiver. The Browns could deal with another left tackle. The Browns might even need to go get them another safety or linebacker. But I think the Browns is not a finished product, so to speak.


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[Assistant] As they keep building and keep building and keep building and keep building, the defense is so good that I think the defense even


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[Assistant] You disagree, Thivas? He was, he was, last year, Seattle wasn't that crazy either.


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[Assistant] Like, if Russell's, like, if he ballin', oh, we gon' see if you ballin' cause you at home. Yeah.


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[Assistant] So, alright, well let's, the narrative that he hasn't played well, right? Who? Deshaun? Yea, so I thought Deshaun played well against the Ravens. Played well against the Cardinals.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he didn't really play at all against the Colts, so that's out of here.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, so he played well with the Washington game. He played horrible against the Texans, his first game back. Did not play well against the Steelers, which was his last game of the season. Uhm, who else did they play? Didn't really play well against Buffalo. Who you talking about? Deshaun Watson. Oh, Deshaun.


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, early in the season, Sean Payton, you know, obviously, uh, got into a little bit of, uh, back and forth with, uh, you know, the New York Jets and different things like that. Probably, well, she probably would have said those things.


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[Assistant] Uhm, how has he settled in a little bit? Uhm, you know.


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[Assistant] He came out and he had those flashy words to say. Uhm, and I think that may have been a little bit of a distraction as well, but how has he kind of reevaluated what he needs to do and the temperament he needs to have with the Broncos that has kind of turned things around?


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[Assistant] The thing that stands out to me uhm, is the fact that, you know, some of your numbers are


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[Assistant] You know, made to below, uh, in terms of defensive numbers, but one number that stands out with me.


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[Assistant] And there's been one big thing is the takeaways. Uhm, you look at that Buffalo Bills game, uhm, that game, I watched that game from start to end.


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[Assistant] In the game, set the tone. How have they been able to kind of, you know, get turnovers but, you know, give up some yards here and there? Is it a bin but don't break type thing with the Broncos?


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's kinda crazy. So, so when I got on, he was like, he was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give my best poker face because they were kicking the field goal right at the end. And so I, he was like, I'm not going to tell you what's going to happen, but there is a flag down, but that flag does not necessarily mean it's a bad thing.


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[Assistant] And a lot of times people want to get these big threes together and they want to just say, keep it as is. Unless you just get the big three with about five or six old guys to round out the roster.


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[Assistant] That's not how you win. No. You need to get guys and develop them like this guy. So he like, I'll give it an example. Fred Van Vliet.


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[Assistant] Fred Van Vliet was a, a big part of what the Toronto rappers wanted to do. They got Pascal Siakam, which they developed. They got, they went out and got Kawhi Leonard. They had Valen Tunis, right? They went out-


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[Assistant] The Heat were able to do some of those things too, and they're developing their guys. My thing is, these are perfect games to be playing young guys. And this is a note to you JB.


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[Assistant] If you got guys injured, and you got Caris Levert out, you got Donovan Mitchell out, you got, uh, uh, Isaac Okoro who's been out, Ricky Rubio probably not coming back.


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[Assistant] You, you know what Dean Wade's gonna give you, and you know he's not gonna, he's not gonna be able to give you that, that, them buckets in the playoffs. I don't know why they signed him to a long-term deal. Who? Dean Wade.


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[Assistant] He played 6-8-6-9, yeaah. 6-8-6-9, he could hit a three point shot, but here's my thing.


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[Assistant] You should be getting guys, you should be developing. And this is the problem I see with JB Biggers have.


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[Assistant] He's, you know, you can say, I'm trying to win and I'm going, I'm going, you know, all with the veterans and doing. Bro, only way you saving what you're trying to do is you play these young kids and you go to them and say, look.


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[Assistant] I didn't develop in my debates, I didn't develop Porter Jr., I didn't develop these guys, these guys are in my rotation, because you've already, you know what Tristan Thompson is, you know what Isaac Okoro is, you know what Dean Wade is, like, come on, let's be clear. And you cannot play in his rotations. McNuggets, I saw another day he had, Niang, Strews, Dean Wade,


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[Assistant] Mcnuggets, this is what got me. This is what got me. I didn't, I didn't, this is what I didn't like at all.


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[Assistant] I just didn't like some of the OGs in the whole organization.


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[Assistant] Like preaching to us that like 50 wins or something. No.


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[Assistant] They kept like, I was just like, and they was adamant, it was like they got, they got, they adamant, they act like the, the, the organization gave them their written notes and handed it in and said, this is what you say when you ask about the nicks. And for me, I was like,


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[Assistant] Guys, we just had LeBron James.


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[Assistant] Guys, we went to four straight finals.


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[Assistant] Let's not act like we're an organization without training wheels. Like, let's act like we want to be competitive. And people talk, well 51 wins means something. No it don't. Cause nobody else is playing in the regular season. No, no, no. If you go ask LeBron James, well 51 wins means me. You don't care about that.


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[Assistant] We are, I mean, I'll be watching, man, we got, I mean, these guys be, they are the nicest, nicest group of guys I've ever seen. They might even be nice to home invaders. Is Evan Mobley, now that we're what? How many games have you played?


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[Assistant] Now, now notice what McNugget said. Yeaah. He said he's a good defensive player.


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[Assistant] If there was one thing, look, you gotta think about, we was talking about whether he was Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, all that stuff. When you talk about KG, KG was the spear.


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[Assistant] He was the tip of the spear, defensively. He created the lockdown badge.


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[Assistant] And they don't, and they don't have a coach that could understand, okay,


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[Assistant] Well, I have some deficiencies on my team. Let me work on my rotations. Let me make sure that this guy and this guy is on the floor together. Let me develop a guy. I mean, listen, if you got a dude that's an elite, that's long as an elite shop maker.


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[Assistant] That could take difficult shots and make them. I'm gonna have to play that guy over playing these regular guys that when people are hurt. I can understand if you got your whole team ready. But I just don't think, and then here's the thing too. No offense.


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[Assistant] No offense. Mikey, they run no sets. You can't tell me. You talk about Safanski. I don't know what they are running. JB just sits there with his arms crossed and he looks paced back and forth.


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[Assistant] J-Ben, I- If- If- Here's why I come- I look at it.


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[Assistant] They're gonna line up with them real tight splits with all the fat boys in the world up front.


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[Assistant] Aggressive fat boys, and they gonna put hands on you, and you gonna have to stop it.


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[Assistant] In years, give me one of them big nasty dudes from down south. Who, I'm looking at the guys that you say, and in the middle, de-tackles. You can't, hey, we can't run the ball against him.


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[Assistant] That's, I haven't seen that in a minute. So I want to see if they understand what it, what this game talking about up front because we know what they're going to do. Are they going to be able to stop them?


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[Assistant] He got a lot of, he got 30 total tackles. He got, you know, 11 solos. Like, but I, I, you know, he get paid. This, this is the, this is the land of the bosses. This is, this is sack master you. We gotta have more, we gotta have more play. And by the way,


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[Assistant] I'm looking at the competition he's playing. He's supposed to dominate. He's supposed to. You got Rutgers, Michigan State, Minnesota.


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[Assistant] Wisconsin ain't no good. I need to see them plays. I need to see pressure on the quarterback and getting the ball, football out. Tyvers told me he was a top 10 pick. He said he was a top 15. I said, okay. Check the mock draft.


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[Assistant] Well here's the thing, because Kyle McCord, after the spring game, had such a low bar, I was like, if they want to play that guy, they're not going to be able to get where they need to go. Okay. He's shown me some stuff.


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[Assistant] He's made some throws. I thought he played really well against Notre Dame down the backstretch. I thought he's made some throws. I think he's done his job. And I do think that he's given Marvin Harrison an opportunity.


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[Assistant] To make certain plays. See, I like to spoon feed people. Like, he, he, he was trying to spread it around and get it. Stover's had a good year too. But here's the thing. I need you to spoon feed Marvel Williams and Marvel's Harrison. So he basically spoon fed him. He's getting him more involved. Uhm, so. But.


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[Assistant] He's going to have to make about three to four big time throws to keep Michigan honest. And if he can make three to four big time throws, they can win this football game. The best guy, Trevion, Trevion Henderson is, is, is basically


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[Assistant] He's easy. He's healthy as he's been in a long time. He's been running the ball really well, running strong. He has that burst back. So I think you work off that to play action and hit and hit Marvin Harrison Jr. You ready to go?


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[Assistant] By the way, by statistics, this is fact two. I just ran across this one. See if you believe it or not. Hold on.


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[Assistant] I'm going to hold another place. Damn. I'm going to the crispy chicken. Oh, here it is. Look at these beefers and butt heads. Look. Infrared. Now look, uh, eh, wherever you, if there's 23 people in the room,


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[Assistant] There is 50-50 chance that two people have the same birthday. Do you believe that?


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[Assistant] And, uh, yeaah, yeaah. So, uh, you guys check that out. Any more Super Chats, Mike, or you done?


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[Assistant] If, if you go, it'll go a little higher. In a room of 75 people.


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[Assistant] There was a 99.9% chance of at least two people having the same birthday.


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[Assistant] By the way, don't be surprised if you see Joe Flacco this year.


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[Assistant] He was, yeaah, he was, listen, he was bald. He was three deep through getting in. Hey man, his celebrations was cold. His celebrations was crazy. He's the one- That may be all we see of him for a while. He is the first dude off the bench like this when everybody else shot threes. Alright, good, good, good.


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[Assistant] It's a deep dark theory of how he actually knows Taylor Swift. I can't tell her right now. I tell you, I got theory though.


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[Assistant] They're very similar. I'm 40 and I still can't see nothing. I've been had these glasses for like three, four years. Oh, and by the way, it's so bad that I had to start getting my sunglasses and prescription. Oh, right. Yeah. I was like, I can't wear sunglasses because I can't. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I don't buy your theory, but your theory is an interesting one. So let me go ahead and just give you the background. So basically, you know me, I'm a comment section guy. And uhm, you know, I wanted to try to feel the temperature. That's one of the things I try to do. Like, I'm out in the street a lot. I'm out and about.


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[Assistant] And people come up to me and talk and you know, either I'm going to restaurants, people talk, but I check out not just our comment section, but the comment section.


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[Assistant] For, you know, the most popular brown sites, you know, Quincy Carey is very popular. You got cleveland.com, Mary Kay knows, you guys over there, uhm, as well. So I digest a lot of browns content, including my own, you know, barbershop content.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so what I'm looking at the comment section and I'm on Twitter and I'm just trying to gather the, the, the temperature in the room, I, I've seen a drastic flip. A drastic flip.


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[Assistant] Usually in the beginning of the season when he was playing, even if he was playing poorly.


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[Assistant] There was not the calls for, this is the worst trade of all time, Browns got fleeced, uh, and on top of it, the victory all is different.


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[Assistant] The vitriol now, you see more and more and more and more sexual assault jokes.


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[Assistant] You see more and more and more people, and people putting their name next to it. You've also started to see more and more local media, national media, second-guessing the move, more of the national media, and obviously we had to crescendo with Brady Quinn. And I think


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[Assistant] What's happening is, these, the narrative,


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[Assistant] In the miscommunication of whether he's gonna play in a day-to-day situation is killing his a character, uhm, how people perceive him, uhm.


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[Assistant] Because people are now saying and questioning whether he's hurt anyway.


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[Assistant] So when you keep saying day to day, day to day, he's already, they've already said that he was cleared to play, right? So that was, that's always in somebody's mind. Two, the general manager said he was supposed to be playing way earlier than he is now. So now in their mind, they're thinking, well, how hard can this guy be?


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[Assistant] Everyone's saying he's not hurt and then he takes a little hit like that and now he's hurt again. So if you, if, and people are saying if he was hurt that bad this last time, why are they not just shutting him down? Why is he, why is he day to day? And my theory is this.


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[Assistant] If you shut Deshaun Watson down for the rest of the season, what is the focus now squarely on?


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[Assistant] I think it's still squarely on him. It's squarely on the shoulders of the GM.


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[Assistant] Because now, you don't, there is no Deshaun Watson to distract the media. All you have is PJ Walker, is your team playing well, are you winning games, and second guessing. Why did you have him out there? Why did you get another quarterback? What's going on with the offense? Now, those things are un, you can't hide from that. That's just on you.


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[Assistant] But I think right now the onus is not on the fact that they didn't go get another quarterback. It is for me. The onus of the population as I've been watching it and the common fan is saying that Deshaun Watson got $230 million and does not want to play. That is the majority.


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[Assistant] Because, look, you gotta think about it. When they were here with Baker Mayfield, they had made it in their minds that they didn't want to give him the money that he wanted. They were apart on the number, the number from the previous... Okay, you don't have to put them out there.


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[Assistant] It's kinda hard to get your own quarterback. If the quarterback you have right now is beloved, is affordable, and they're playing well.


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[Assistant] I lived, I've lived in this, I've lived in a brown sphere. Let's think, let's think about in a brown sphere things that you thought was crazy that would have never happened but you found out was true. How's about somebody getting on a cell phone and calling and say put Johnny Manziel in the game.


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[Assistant] That's crazy. That's ludicrous. How's about Jimmy Haslam picking, like, his quarterback almost basically by any mini-mini-mo?


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[Assistant] A head coach gave a powerpoint about why he hated your organization so much to let him out of the contract. That's crazy. Like that never...


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[Assistant] No, no, no, but here's the thing, if they turn, if they turn on Deshaun Watson, that's, that's the collateral damage. What Stefansi is doing is saying, look, Deshaun Watson is hurt.


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[Assistant] We couldn't even put a game plan in because he's day to day. From day to day, we didn't know what he was going to do, where he was going to be at. We lost Nick Chubb. So look, hey, we've been through the most and look where we were at. We're 4 and 2, we got PJ Walker at the helm. Guess what? He uses that so that now,


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[Assistant] It gives you more time. If you get pulled into office and your manager says, tell me why I should keep you.


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[Assistant] If they don't make the playoffs. And here's my thing. If they keep PJ Walker at quarterback, they're not gonna make the playoffs. Let's be clear.


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[Assistant] Go back to when he was talking during the suspension time. How many times did y'all sit up here and say, why is Deshaun talking? Why don't they have a PR guy? Why aren't they doing that? What's going on with that? That was one strike. When you develop somebody's narrative, and first of all, he's a guy we didn't drag.


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[Assistant] So you know that the fans are gonna be apprehensive to latch on. You gotta have imaging and messaging ready to go. They didn't have it the last year. This year turns around. And instead of having the imaging and messaging in place,


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[Assistant] You string this along and people are now, people think, generally speaking, that there's nothing wrong with them.


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[Assistant] That puts him squarely in the crosshairs. And that is the reason they are so concrete on not shutting him down. They won't even mention him sitting out games because they need him to perform in order for- But he doesn't want to be shut down either.


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[Assistant] No, this, players don't got that power. Yes, they do. Really? Come on, quarterbacks don't have the power. Baker did. Baker did. Listen, here's what I'm saying. And Kevin Stefanski said, you know what, if you wanna keep playing, we gonna sit you in that sideline.


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[Assistant] I remember it like it was yesterday. Let's go to another sport. Mikey, you can attest to this. Go back to the San Antonio Spurs when they had the end of their dynasty. They had Parker Janobli, still had Tim Duncan, and the guy that they were pushing in the spotlight at that time was Kawhi Leonard. He became their best player, de facto player.


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[Assistant] Tony Parker and the rest of those guys were counting on him to carry the load.


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[Assistant] They were coming to him saying, Hey, you're injured. Okay, cool. But we need to get you back. We need to get you back. The organization never.


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[Assistant] He goes out and he, he's sitting out, he goes to New York to get all this, uh, you know, check. They find out they're misdiagnosed or whatever the case might be. And he says, I'm never, ever, ever playing for the Spurs again.


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[Assistant] Because he felt like they pressured him to come back and play when he was not ready to play. So my thought process is this. It happens in all kind of different sports, right? If Deshaun Watson, listen to what he's saying. He said, are you gonna play on this Sunday? He said, I don't know.


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[Assistant] But if you ask his coaches in the gym, the same thing, they've been saying yes since Jump Street. That is true. So when people say, well, guess what? I'm not playing. They're not looking at them. They're looking squarely at you.


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[Assistant] You're, you're, you're, you're a guy who came in here under the most controversy in the league.


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[Assistant] So you, when you meanly step in here, you not have to have an in-depth doctorate and ingratiate yourself to a new fan base, a new media base.


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[Assistant] You also have not played in two years, which means that you can come back and not play well and we want you to play well. So you're not playing well. You're not getting the benefit of the doubt there. And on top of that, you're in a locker room with people.


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[Assistant] Miles Garret, Ben Miles Garret, he was drafted here. Denzel Ward, drafted here. Joe Botonio, those are the real, real, real, real leaders because they've been here in that organization. So what you're trying to do, you may have that seat on your chest in just, but what you're doing is you're trying to prove yourself to the other 53 men in there.


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[Assistant] And he didn't want to give that capital back. He said, listen, I played, I'm just starting to get in here. I'm just starting to, people, people is showing, I'm showing them what I can be. Team is following me. I, you know, and so when you tell me.


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[Assistant] Alright, now we go, I gotta burn all of that goodwill because I'm out. Nah, I'ma play as quick as I can because I still want that feeling. I need to get out there and prove myself. And the thing that got Baker hurt,


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[Assistant] Wasn't the fact that it was the money, it was proving himself. He had to prove that it was the, he was worth what they, what he saw he was. And when you got something to prove, you gonna go through a wall.


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[Assistant] Brown's defense, at what point in time when you got PJ Walker out there, does that become something where...


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[Assistant] And people say, well, why would you say all of that? Because, you know, just to play the game of football and to play it at a high level, you have to play with a type of energy and effort that you don't care about getting hurt.


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[Assistant] Uhm, that's the only thing that matters. You gotta, you're gonna play through bumps and bruises. We just talked about with Joe Petonio. He had surgery, came back, scoped his knee, came back because...


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[Assistant] They feel he, he feels that he has to be out there. So when you not playing with your, your, the best quarterback or you playing with an offense that is hamstrung.


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[Assistant] You go back and, you go back and watch any great defense. Uhm, you can go back and look at, to the Eagles, uh, where they had Reggie Whitey and those guys over there. You can go back to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You go back for the 85 Bears. Uhm, when you start to talk about the defense versus offense, it happens because the defense is so dominant.


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[Assistant] That they are, they are playing them so above their heads that after a certain point in time...


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[Assistant] They're gonna start looking at the offense like, hey man, listen, y'all gotta pull y'alls weight, man. We ain't asking for much. Give us, give us some points, man. We just got you a turnover inside the 20 yard line. We kicking field goals on those. Y'all gotta be able to punch that in. Hey, we gave you the ball back to be able to come back, back and do a whole, uh, you know, a drive under two minutes and you guys are going three and out.


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[Assistant] And we were the last team besides Army and Navy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think Air Force was still running the triple option at that time. And so basically we would be playing teams and we have one of the best defenses, the best defense in the map, one of the best defenses that's stopping and running the country. But the problem was when you, when you run in triple option on third and seven,


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[Assistant] Like, you just want to go up to the coach and be like, you get paid to do this. You do understand that this ain't working.


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[Assistant] Like, you're running that out of ego. Because you can't tell me that you believe that this is going to work against that team. You're running it so you can be able to say, hey,


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[Assistant] We're old school. We run the triple option here. No, that don't lead to nothing. We losing game. And so when you look at the Cleveland Browns,


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[Assistant] How many times can you keep asking them to give you that when they know what they got


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[Assistant] Some people would, some people would argue if you playing supreme devil's advocate or you just being a hater. They would say, you take Miles Garrett off that defense, that's regular.


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[Assistant] I don't even, I don't even think he played at a all pro level. I think he's a pro bowler.


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[Assistant] I do have a question for you guys. And that's fairble. And maybe, maybe y'all, y'all answer this question in the chat too because I got all these conspiracy theories and stuff, but there's one question that I come down to that just does not make sense. And I need a super smooth or detective to get on this case. Why in the world does it seem like there is no, it's not even in the cards.


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[Assistant] Or a remote possibility to bring in another quarterback.


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[Assistant] And they know what they're up against going to Seattle like that. They know how Seattle's playing ball. My thing is, I hate to think that you're conceding gains. Like, have you conceded the fact that it's an uphill battle and you got a 25, 30% chance of winning? When you could have went out and got somebody and instead of being


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[Assistant] Four and three, you could be five and two. Looking forward to doing bigger and better things.


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[Assistant] See, this is, this is what I'm talking about here, man. Like, when you say, we talk about how every player gets to decide that, no. Like, they're not, once again, the messaging is off. First and foremost, the coach needs to just come out and say, look,


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[Assistant] Deshaun Watson, we putting him on a four game. You know what? It's better for him to be sitting there one week completely healthy and not playing, so he knows exactly


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[Assistant] So Fancy comes out and say, listen, Deshaun's rehabbing, we're gonna put him on IR for four games.


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[Assistant] And a lot of those coaches end up getting replaced. When you're the head coach, if you're the coach,


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[Assistant] It's on you. I'm the leader. I'm the leader of the ship. So if I feel like you hurting yourself for harm, it's just like being a parent. Your kid may want to go to school. He may want to go because it's a field trip, but he's sick. You're like, listen, nah bro, you ain't been to school all week. You got a fever. I'm sorry, bud. You can't go.


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[Assistant] Flip. People flip to you. Soccer room don't like it. You losing games.


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[Assistant] All they had to do was put them, they could have put Baker on IR, they could have put this guy on IR. And by the way, why, why did they have such a, uh, they, the Browns went from having Case Key to making the most money as a backup quarterback. Yeaah. So Jacoby Brissett, who they loved and admired and we felt he was a great locker room guy and people loved, and you stripped


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[Assistant] So when somebody asks you a dumbass question like that, and it's dumb,


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[Assistant] People hide behind the fact that they journalists and they need to ask it because the fans want to know. No, you want to know. You ain't asking that question on the behalf of fans. You have an autonomous notepad of what you want to write.


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[Assistant] I heard, I heard my arm again, right? I have a setback. I should have been sitting out chilling. And you asked me. Yeah, now you're angry. You, you, you, some people say you don't even want to play in Cleveland. What kind of dumb ass question is that? And here's why it's really a dumb question.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you this question. And because you, you're around a lot of the other teens, the way the messaging has worked for this whole thing with Watson and being injured.


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[Assistant] You know, are other teams handling it the same way? Uhm, it just seems like this is, this is a little strange at the way that there's this, this not on IR, on IR, hurt, not hurt, structural, no structural. You know, how are other teams handling things like this?


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[Assistant] Dee Dee, there's a lot of people who said, uh, Kareem Hunt was washed. He was done. He was finished. He's not coming back. I thought he played well in his spurts. I think he needs to get back in game shape. But this is, this is going to be a throwback game. Like Kareem Hunt, if you wanted your opportunity to prove yourself,


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[Assistant] You know, I'm, I'm, I'm due to be injured. And I think that, uh, the whole world has their knee shaken right now because here's what happens usually.


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[Assistant] Basketball is all about player comparisons. It's not like football, right? You know, you could be put in a situation in football where, you know what I'm saying, if you ain't got a quarterback and you a receiver, you just not gonna be good, right? Right. If you, you know, secondary your defensive line sucks, you about to be victimized. And basketball is different.


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[Assistant] In basketball, you can see the impact of really good players today, right now, on it. Yep. And so when you look at what they wanted Evan Mobley to be, and what was foretold in the Chronicles and the Fairy Tales, was that Evan Mobley was supposed to be somebody else. And that somebody else is Wimby.


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[Assistant] And when you start to see Wimby taking step back jumpers, shooting threes, not blocking three point shots, dunking on people. Yeah, but Mowgli wasn't supposed to be this guy. Oh, listen. They weren't the same type level. No, no, no. Here's what I'm saying though. Like, like, what happens is if you get one person with the same body type,


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[Assistant] That has that potential when they call you a unicorn. There's only a certain amount of unicorns. There's levels to unicorns, but Evan Mobley was called a unicorn. By who?


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[Assistant] Here's the thing, what I'm saying is, yes, they're in different categories, but when you see somebody with the skill set that you want him to develop in that has it now, you end up having reactions like, mm, I didn't see him. Yeah, I'm never expecting him


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[Assistant] I just turned the game on and was like, okay, let me just see how they moving. And it looks like they're playing them at the same position. They're running no place for them. It's just what he was after.


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[Assistant] I think, I think one of the things that, that, you know, and I was expecting, we had Brad on and, and once again, you know, they won the game. I think the, the part of it that we're watching for and most Cavs fans are looking at is not necessarily the wins and losses so much.


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[Assistant] It's about the growth and development. How they fit together. How it fits and how are you playing. And yeaah, they hit a lot of threes, but one of the things that I did see, and I was waiting for Brad to say it, when you asked him, hey,


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[Assistant] And so, and what I mean, when I compare him to Wimby, I don't compare him to like, obviously he's not, like that's just God given ability that Wimby has, that he just doesn't have.


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[Assistant] Evan Mobley doesn't have to be at that level of raw skills, but what he does need to do is if it's nothing but saying I can knock down a 15 to 17 foot jumper like a Patrick Ewing or a Lamarcus Aldridge or a Vin Baker or Rashid Wallace, if you just add that,


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[Assistant] We'll take it. Or he say, listen, I'm a good passing big man. I'm not going to say you're going to pass as well as Joker or Chris Webber, but


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[Assistant] Uhm, you, you know Deshaun, uh, on a, on a more personal level than other people know. And you've, you've also been a part of the quarterback fraternity.


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[Assistant] Uhm, dating back to Jim Kelly and Dan Marino. You've seen that and I respect what you think about the game.


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[Assistant] You know, because the messaging has been off a little bit, there is a segment of the media and a segment of the fan base that seem to be


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[Assistant] Thinking that Deshaun Watson may not be as hurt as he is.


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[Assistant] Brady Quinn flat out said it. Brady Quinn flat out said he doesn't want to play. So the question is, from your perspective, you've played Hurt. You know how many other quarterbacks have played Hurt.


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[Assistant] No quarterback, especially the quarterback, they are wired different, right? They feel the responsibility of the entire team.


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[Assistant] Let's try to, well, well, I guess to your point, Bull, I guess it's a little easier said than done. I kinda compare it to, you know, everybody being addicts trying to help each other get off.


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[Assistant] The coach is a competitor. He wants to win and win games. The defense is competitive. So when everybody wants the guy to play, everybody is kind of this circular thing and nobody else is standing outside of the circle saying, all right, good or no, listen, I guess you, I guess you want to win games, but we got to have you sit down. Right.


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[Assistant] Yeah, well, you would think rookie quarterbacks against the great defensive mind would favor Jim Schwartz, but you go back the last couple of years and rookie quarterbacks have had way more success against the Jim Schwartz defense than you would expect. I went back to the last six, so dating back to 2019, and he's faced six rookie quarterbacks.


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[Assistant] And despite the fact that Jim Schwartz's teams have a 3-2-1 record, those rookie quarterbacks?


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[Assistant] Mac Jones, Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones, and Dwayne Haskins are averaging 293 passing yards per game, two touchdowns, and only half an interception against. And to give you a little context, and just in terms of passing yards.


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[Assistant] Matt Jones and Zach Wilson through more passing yards in that game against Jim Schwartz their rookie year than they did any other game.


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[Assistant] As a rookie and only Dwayne Haskins wasn't in the top five of most yards against the Jim Schwartz defense as they had in terms of passing yards in their entire rookie season. So.


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[Assistant] To me, it's a bit surprising these rooks have had success against the Wiley Vet Lake Schwartz. I don't care.


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[Assistant] It was a terribly worded tweet from Ian Rappaport, but the Browns have officially named Deshaun Watson the starter for Sunday's game against Arizona. A terrible worded tweet. Ian Rappaport, be better, but Deshaun Watson is the starter.


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[Assistant] Also, other injury news. David Bell out. Dewan Jones questionable. Greg Newsome out.


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[Assistant] Alex Wright, out. Deshaun Watson, we'll start.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so we don't know who it'll be. Real quick guys, if you're looking for a job with career advancement and great benefits, well PCC Airfoils is the leading manufacturer at Northeast Ohio. All locations at PCC Airfoils in Eastlake, Mentor, Wickliffe, and Minerva are hiring for all positions starting at $18 and up. Plus, full benefit packages, paid time off, and a signing bonus. You can apply online at precast.com slash careers to learn more.


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[Assistant] So last week we all picked Seattle to win and we were all right. And when unanimous things happen on this show, we're never right. So let's go back to back weeks of being unanimously correct. Cause I am also predicting the Browns to win. How about Angry Birds? No match for miles. All right, Peter, the Cardinals, 2023 playoff hopes and the best iPhone game ever created.


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[Assistant] That's called being old. Yeah, Tetris. No thanks guys. We don't do that. Really? Maybe Pac-Man.


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[Assistant] So you think you're cool because you play Angry Birds? Earl and Anthony, real quick hop on the mic. Did you guys play Angry Birds? Angry Birds is the best. I'm with Mike on this one. What about like Candy Crush?


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[Assistant] Check out, hit up, whatever, send us a DM, send us a tweet, an email, and we will be there on Sunday morning. Go Browns!


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[Assistant] You know how, you know, now you folks may not know it, but I knew the second Gene walked in, he still wasn't feeling well. Because usually when he comes in, he's very bubbly.


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[Assistant] We'll get to the Donovan People's Jones and that angle of what the Browns did and didn't do on the trade deadline. But let's begin with what they didn't do. What they didn't do was add any talent. We all hoped they would add a quarterback.


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[Assistant] We all hoped they would maybe add some other things. We're gonna get to that in a second. We got a new game to play on the show today. Hmm. Uh, we'll talk, uh, with Darren Urban from Arizona also. It'll break down the Cardinals coming in. That spread is now eight points. First, let's go to Mikey Miyaguchi, who is anxiously waving me over. What's the matter, Mike? We were here for two seconds.


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[Assistant] Hopefully everybody bet the under on everything Cavs because they sucked yesterday. We'll talk about that in overtime.


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[Assistant] We get concerned about how soft Evan Mobley is. That's all coming up later in the show. Uh, but let's dive right into it, guys. Trade deadline out. I know Tyvis is going to say he didn't expect anything, so I'll let you start with that. Because I know G is like me. I'm pissed off right now. I'm sure he is. Go ahead. Be calm, if you will.


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[Assistant] Tyvis, let me jump in here, because I am beyond pissed at the Browns right now, and I have defended the Browns all season long. I've defended the organization, uh, I've even been accused of being an apologist, which is crazy after years of killing the Browns.


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[Assistant] I like a lot of things, believe it or not, I like a lot of things about where the Browns are as an organization. And in a lot of ways, they're in better shape than they've been in a very long time.


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[Assistant] I think Andrew Berry's a decent GM. Decent.


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[Assistant] I think Kevin Stefanski's a pretty good coach. The problem is, you were the only team in the NFL yesterday that is over 500 that traded a player away for a draft pick.


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[Assistant] All the other teams that traded players away for draft picks are 500 or worse. In fact, they're all worse except for Minnesota did trade a player and they're a 500 team.


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[Assistant] Now what I have heard time and time again, since, first of all, so many people wanted to browse the trade for a quarterback. And since the deadline happened, and I put out a video that I was pissed, and I put out a video, uh, podcast that I was pissed, and I'll say it again here, I'm pissed.


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[Assistant] And I keep hearing this, what you just said Tyvis, well they must think Deshaun Watson is just about ready to play. He must be doing better blah blah blah.


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[Assistant] G. Bush said it, and he's 100% right. There is no way that the Browns can, let's say they're expecting him to play against Baltimore.


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[Assistant] And this has been the other argument. Well, the Browns can't win anything significant without Deshaun Watson. And that's probably true. Even if they had gone, at this point the best guy they could have gotten was Jacoby Brissett.


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[Assistant] And with Jacoby Brissette, are the Browns winning a Super Bowl with Jacoby Brissette? I doubt it. It's very unlikely that you could win a Super Bowl with a quarterback of that caliber.


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[Assistant] There's something to be said for Jacoby Brissette giving you, in my opinion, a way better chance of making the playoffs.


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[Assistant] And if Deshaun, let's say, if you have Jacobi Brissette, you feel, I would feel way more confident in saying, Deshaun, we'll see you in six weeks. And, and we'll see. Maybe, maybe he can come back for the final three games of the season. But we can rest him because I know that Brissette at least can give me serviceable NFL


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[Assistant] A quarterbacking play. P.J. Walker cannot. He couldn't in Carolina. He couldn't anywhere else. That's why he's been on 82 teams and practice squads and the XFL and the CFL and the UFL and the lingerie football league because he's not good enough.


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[Assistant] He has been absolutely awful. And we can talk about the record all we want. PJ Walker.


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[Assistant] It has nothing to do with the Browns being 2-1. At all. At all!


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[Assistant] There is, you cannot really play worse than he did over the last three games. It's nearly impossible to play worse. One touchdown and six turnovers. They won in spite of him. It had nothing, if anything, he made it harder for them to win.


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[Assistant] And if they had had Jacoby Brissette, there's almost no doubt in my mind that they would have won three in a row. Not two out of three.


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[Assistant] And, and the fact that they, they did reportedly try to get him, reportedly offering a sixth round pick,


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[Assistant] No way, nobody was trading a third round pick for Jacobi Percet. Washington knows that too. But isn't there a space in between a sixth round pick and a third round pick that they could have found a balance? Washington blew it up. They traded their two best, two of their best players.


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[Assistant] Jacobi presents on a one-year contract. Of course they would have traded him at a fair price. And the Browns were, in my opinion, it seems like, unwilling to go past the sixth. That's ridiculous.


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[Assistant] Clearly. And it has here. Clearly. Because Jacobi Berset, listen, nobody, nobody thinks Jacobi Berset's a great quarterback. He is what he is, but he knows what he is. Jacobi Berset knows what he can do and what he can't do.


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[Assistant] If the brow, I believe, this year, and obviously you don't know for sure.


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[Assistant] But I believe this year, and again, I'm no big Jacoby Brissett fan, but I think if Jacoby Brissett


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[Assistant] Had played this year, the Browns might be 6-1.


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[Assistant] If you had gotten, if you had gotten the way Jacoby Brissette played over his loving games last year, they're probably 6-1.


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[Assistant] Because he did not 6 turnovers in 11 games.


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[Assistant] By the way, one other thing, this Sunday, I know we've been talking about this for about two months. But this Sunday is finally happening. Gee, are you going this Sunday or are you not going to go?


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[Assistant] G Bush, myself, Mikey McNuggets. Mikey's always at tailgate. I'll be there. Every game. But G Bush and I will join him and we will be causing havoc.


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[Assistant] We will be, I don't know, maybe throwing things at other people's tailgates? Nah, I'm kidding. I'm joking.


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[Assistant] If you want us to come visit your tailgate, you gotta do two things. One, let us know.


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[Assistant] Email Mike, email the show, tech, uh, send us a DM, send us a message on Twitter, send Mike, it's like the Mike's DMs. Let us know and make sure you have food for us. We're big guys for crying out loud. We'll try us. We want to go to every and try everybody's food. So everybody, we will see you. We're going to be down at the meeting lot and that's the story.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm not in this business to do solids, okay? I'm in the business to win football games.


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[Assistant] No. So you could say he's played, his production has been weighed down. Okay. But he's played 80% of the snaps.


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[Assistant] How many late 6th round picks are making, uh, uh, significant erosions on the team?


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[Assistant] Yes, if Deshaun Watson ends up being a bust, it's a disaster. Yes. Cause he's a bust. Yes. But most of the teams with high paid quarterbacks, it's not a disaster unless you totally screw up all your draft picks. I agree. In the first three rounds, I agree. And, and I'll be like, you know, look at


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[Assistant] And now, like, look, who recently spent on their quarterback? The Bengals, the Chargers, the Ravens, let's think about those three teams, right? And the Eagles. And the Eagles, okay? Which I don't know how they finesse an A-cap like they do. And they've got to, now they can't screw up their draft picks.


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[Assistant] What is it, nine games left? It's possible. They have a bye this week.


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[Assistant] Is it a big deal that they traded DBJ? Of course not. Thank you. Okay, thank you. It's just what it signals.


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[Assistant] On trade deadline day, where other teams tried to get better.


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[Assistant] We're gonna find out today. I wanna do TR to start. I do too.


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[Assistant] Now again, as we mentioned yesterday, Thivis, none of us are in practice. Right. And maybe in practice he's a disaster. Could be. If he's a disaster, then you gotta stick with Peter Walker.


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[Assistant] But if he's shown any signs of anything as bad as PJ Walker has played, I would definitely start DTO. So we're all in agreement.


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[Assistant] I feel like I'm gonna be biased by the stats. I almost don't want to see it. I almost don't want to see it either.


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[Assistant] Give me PJ. I'm getting PJ. At least PJ wants to win. We have a good time with Johnny. Johnny don't care. Yeah, PJ. Stop. Yeah. Even though Johnny, by the way, this is how bad PJ Walker is. Talk to him. That his stats are worse than Johnny Mansell's.


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[Assistant] No, they're all, they're all terrible. No, it shows, it shows, this is really bad on the Browns. How many PJ Walkers the Browns have had?


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[Assistant] Speaking of rocks, let's go to Mike. Thanks, Paul.


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[Assistant] That means, when do they practice, Mike? Today. Later this afternoon. And when does Stefanski speak? 1.45. Does he speak after or before practice? Before practice. D. So. Maybe they don't. R. R. Do the players normally come out before Stefanski?


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[Assistant] Uh, but to this point Gardner Minshew, you know what he ran? 4-8. 4-9-7s.


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[Assistant] So I would think they would still keep that as part of their offense.


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[Assistant] There's really nobody on Arizona's offense that scares you.


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[Assistant] But, uh, the Browns have corners that can play with him. You, you look at, you know, James Connor is hurt. He's not playing. He's on the IR. He's their best back. They've been going with, uh, this young guy, D. Mercado. I think it's Amari D. Mercado.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it was interesting as James Connor got hurt in the game against the Bengals. And actually, James Connor was having a great game. He was really, that game might have been different had he not gotten hurt. Don't you think? He was, Connor was playing, I thought really well, I was watching that game. I thought Connor was having a hell of a game that day and then they couldn't run once he got hurt. Is that fair?


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[Assistant] Is there any chance the Cardinals surprise all of us and go with Tyler this week, or are you 100% certain it's going to be Clayton Tunes?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I'm curious about the Trey McBride who...


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[Assistant] Uh, you know, as a guy that people have been talking about for a couple years and he had a big breakout game this past week. I think he had like 15 targets, 10 catches.


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[Assistant] Close to 100 yards and a touchdown, I think, somewhere around there. Uh, is this, if you're a fantasy football guy, are you buying in on Trey McBride the rest of the year or, or is this a one game anomaly? What do you think about him?


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[Assistant] Last thing, Darren, we were talking about this before you came on, you know, the cardinal,


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[Assistant] The Boston defense overall has been really good, but both the Ravens and Colts had a lot of success running read option.


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[Assistant] And obviously with Lamar Jackson, he's a great, you know.


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[Assistant] Gardner Minshew is no great athlete. In fact, Clayton Toon ran a way better 40 time than Gardner Minshew did. The Cardinals have run a lot of read option. Uh, while Toon may not be as good an athlete as Josh Dobbs, he's still a decent athlete. Do you expect to see that remain part of the game plan?


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[Assistant] By the way, one last last thing, uh, I was watching the end of the Cardinals Ravens game, because obviously we were hoping the Ravens would lose, and the Cardinals were making that kind of wacky comeback at the end. I think that onside kick that the Cardinals got, that the second, they had to do it twice, second one obviously failed. I don't know if anybody else saw this, obviously you did, Darren, and I did.


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[Assistant] That first onside kick by Matt Prater that the Cardinals recovered was one of the best onside kicks I've ever seen in my life. Right? I mean, that was amazing.


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[Assistant] Darren, thank you, man. We appreciate the time. Thank you for joining us.


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[Assistant] Alright, Darren Urban covers the Cardinals and there you go. We got a new game, guys!


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[Assistant] I almost wish there was a category between I think and I doubt. I wish there was something in between there. I'm not giving you the cop out. No, I know. I'm gonna have to go with these guys. I'm hesitant because I think with their defense, there are enough winnable games on the schedule.


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[Assistant] I know, I think, or I doubt. I'm gonna go be a little positive even on a day where I'm pissed and I'm gonna say I think. I think they can still make it cause I'm like okay.


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[Assistant] Maybe that's stupid, but I'm assuming they're gonna win this week. Which makes them five and three. I think...


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[Assistant] They could get to the playoffs with 10 wins. Now, 10 is not going to be easy.


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[Assistant] And I don't think they can do it if they lose to Arizona. But they have the Bears.


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[Assistant] They have the Steelers at home. They're getting bad quarterback play too. They're playing a lot of teams the rest of the season outside of the Bengals and the Ravens that don't have great quarterback play either and Jacksonville.


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[Assistant] Because, although it's a much stronger thing than with the Browns, last one. Uh, I mean he, I got reason to believe in him. He's made some kicks in bad weather. I can't say I know because kickers outside of one or two guys are very


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[Assistant] Frugal, or frugal's not the right word. They're hard to predict. You have kickers that are like, can't miss, and then they miss a few and they fall apart. It happens all the time.


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[Assistant] That Brett Meyer of the Cowboys was great for much of last season. Then he fell apart and he's like done.


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[Assistant] So we've seen that time and time again. Uh, so I, I'll say I think that he's gonna be really good.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Seahawks Potter took his helmet off and he was swinging it. Really?


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[Assistant] Gee Bush is a wise man. I'm with him too. I don't...


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[Assistant] Uh, is he flawed? Absolutely. Absolutely. And if you, if you dive into the play calling of any coach outside of probably nobody, maybe Andy Reid,


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[Assistant] Uh, you could be, find plenty of things to be critical of if we were breaking down other coaches like we break down Stefanski.


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[Assistant] Do you know how many games Elijah Morris played in his career? Uh, I can tell you. No, I know it. I'm asking somebody to guess.


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[Assistant] How many games has Elijah Moore played? Close, 34. Do you know how many hundred-yard games he has in those 34? Two. One.


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[Assistant] Since that game in his rookie year where he had 141 yards in that one big game, I think he's had over 65 twice. And he has not even had 90 yards once.


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[Assistant] The Browns have the worst passing game in the league. The odds are that Deshaun Watson, even if he plays this year, will not be at his best.


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[Assistant] Uh, so I think the chances of him having a hundred yard game are probably less than five percent, so I doubt it.


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[Assistant] They got one game, right? They're playing enough bad teams. Like maybe that game against the Bears late in the year. Maybe Watson's like 75% and he's out there. I don't know. Maybe even this week against the Cardinals. Crazier things have happened. I mean...


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[Assistant] I'll say it happens one time this year. I think it's gonna happen. I don't feel confident, but I'm gonna say yes. Weird things happen.


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[Assistant] The one against the Bengals, he actually threw five touchdowns. Ooh! Baker.


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[Assistant] In his second year, he did it twice. His third year, he did it twice. And his fourth year, he did not throw three touchdowns.


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[Assistant] That's a significant difference though between the two.


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[Assistant] I think they, I agree with you guys. I think they should, I don't like using three guys that much. No. I would use Pierre Strong as, as my like first second down back and then Kareem Hunt as maybe like share third down time. Goal line. And then Kareem Hunt be my goal line short yardage guy, you know.


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[Assistant] I love that somebody created music for this, for this, specifically for this segment or just for the show and you chose music.


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[Assistant] He must have been offside. Was he blocked? Back from the dead.


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[Assistant] I remember that. We were going wild. I can't believe G. Bush got that wrong. That stunned me. He has the best memory for brown stuff. And anybody I know, I'm stunned you got that wrong.


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[Assistant] No, I mean, obviously nobody wanted Dobbs. The Brawls didn't want Dobbs, obviously, because they gave up nothing to get him. The Vikings, essentially.


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[Assistant] I don't know, Steve, our executive producer, is like, well, can you do a short about the Browns not making the trade? And I was like, sure, but I was like, I'm about to get a massage.


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[Assistant] I know people are not going to believe this, but it's the truth. I didn't even think of the Deshaun Watson thing when I was doing that from the massage place. It actually did not even cross my mind, which is crazy. But of course in the comments I'm told, I haven't looked at any comments, I'm told that in the comments there are quite a bit of Deshaun Watson


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[Assistant] Let's just put the names up, let's do that too. Uh, yesterday, for those who weren't with us, and where were you, what the hell happened?


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[Assistant] So yesterday was the first anniversary of our memberships.


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[Assistant] And so, I think we had about 14, 15 people that signed up right away. We congratulated them. But we also want to thank


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[Assistant] The people that have been with us, even if they weren't with us for the first day, for the first week. So we're doing this all week. So today is the anniversary of the second day.


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[Assistant] That we went to membership, so there were three people that joined us on date two, and here are the names. John Zenner.


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[Assistant] Sean Walker and Shannon Nelson. I don't know any of those people, none of those names sound familiar. But they've been with us for a year and we really appreciate their support. So we're happy to give them a little love on the show.


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[Assistant] Can I just promote something real quick, Michael? Of course, always. Please, if you're not subscribing already to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, please do so. There's gotta be some of you that watch and don't click on that subscribe button. We're now over 31,500 subscribers, which is a big number.


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[Assistant] But we wanna keep building that. We wanna get to 50,000 at some point. It's gonna take a while.


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[Assistant] But we want to get there. So every subscriber helps. So anybody in your life that watches the show at all, if you watch the show occasionally, please hit that subscribe button. You'll get alerts whenever we do a show. And also, please subscribe.


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[Assistant] Uh, well G. Bush's podcast is, if you subscribe for UCSS, you also subscribe. But, you've got your own YouTube page.


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[Assistant] And I just started my channel in August and I'm approaching 2,000 subscribers already, so please help me continue to build that.


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[Assistant] To continue to get coverage from everybody else here, so subscribe to the bullpen with Adam the Bull on YouTube as well. Really appreciate it. Mike, go ahead.


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[Assistant] Real quick thought, Mike, and I was talking about this with you guys before the show.


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[Assistant] I've said nothing matters in the regular season. I don't really care about the regular season except for one thing. Seeing what his game looks like this year. If Evan Mobley does not take the step forward this year, then this is over.


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[Assistant] Then if he's just a decent NBA player, and that's, if he's just a defensive guy with a, you know, average offensive game, then they're just a mediocre team.


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[Assistant] I keep up with it. I do keep up with it because I have a podcast, so I have to keep up with it, but I don't, I watch them all, man. I don't really get too detailed.


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[Assistant] I think when I was there, we beat them maybe once. I think it was, I can't remember the game, but.


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[Assistant] You know? So, I don't know if there's any, I don't know if there's any stories that I could tell that y'all would hate them anymore, but I can't remember many stories to be honest with you.


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[Assistant] I think the college game is kind of with this transfer portal, which I know guys transfer, but you know, I talked to my buddy, Tom Moore, who's 85 years old, still coaching for the Tampa Bay Bucks. I said, I want your job.


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[Assistant] And, uh, we were talking about that and he was like, you know, nobody wants to compete anymore. And I think that's what makes that game and professional ball so good as competition.


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[Assistant] I think people try to pin myself and Tim against each other like we didn't like each other. We're really good friends. We were really good friends then. It just was a situation where, hey,


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[Assistant] When I got my opportunity, I never could stay healthy. I never could stay on the field. So that kind of, that was a sucky part of my career or something.


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[Assistant] Uh, I don't think, I don't think anybody knows how anybody's going to be. Now he obviously had the pedigree, his dad, uh, you know, had played for a long time. Peyton is a different, you know, he was a different guy. I learned a lot of stuff from Peyton, even though I was the older guy.


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[Assistant] You know, Peyton had a really good work ethic and I can remember one day when I, when he was a, when he was a rookie.


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[Assistant] And I can remember him staying out there and I'm like, this dude is a nerd because he stayed out there.


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[Assistant] And he had the film crew film him so he could fix that problem. And that's kind of how, that's kind of something's painting up.


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[Assistant] uh, some of the assistant after the game and told h try to corner, corner ca him bring a corner blitz


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[Assistant] So, so receivers, I gotta go with, uh, I gotta go with the guy I played with in Indianapolis, Marvin Harrison, as, uh, as my, as my splitting and, uh,


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[Assistant] Man, I played with Marshall Falk, uh, he was really good, uh, really smart guy, uh, smart, probably the smartest dude I've ever played with.


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[Assistant] Uh, did you want a fullback or you want another receiver? Give us a fullback. We gotta have a fullback. That's old school right there. A fullback? Uhm, I mean, you know.


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[Assistant] I don't know if that's the offense I would run now, a regular offense. I don't know if I'd go with 21 personnel. I'd probably go with something else, but if that's where you're going with me, that's probably where I'd go.


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[Assistant] But when you got 12 guys on the field, you gotta call that. But like some, and I'm a quarterback too.


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[Assistant] I'm not a fan of that because I think if you get some pressure on the quarterback and you start hitting them, it's a different game. I don't care who you are. You can put Peyton, you can put Tom Brady, you can put Drew Brees, you can put all those guys back there. If you start hitting them consistently, the game changes in your favor.


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[Assistant] Because that's, you know, that's protecting the guy that's making the hit too, so.


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[Assistant] Let's, let's, let's cut some of this out and let the flow of the game and let the guys actually play to win the game, not us calling it jeopardizing the game.


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[Assistant] Well, you see some of those, you see some of those old films, films with the Raiders and their safeties coming up just trying to decapitate people. Or you, you see Dick Butkus back in the day, man, trying to like, he's throwing a forearm shiver to a guy right up under the throat. I mean, it's a violent game. We get that. I totally understand that.


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[Assistant] And some of the rules have to change, but it's still always going to be a violent game unless you keep going and keep going and then at some point it's going to be flag football. And I don't think...


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[Assistant] Uh, with the concussions, I tell people all the time and they don't believe me, but like there's more concussions in soccer than there are in.


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[Assistant] I hear a lot of guys that retired that says, you know, with the concussion stuff, and I had a bunch of them.


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[Assistant] But I promise you I would do the same thing over and over because, you know, and some of those guys say,


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[Assistant] Well, I don't think I would do it again. I don't know if I'd play football. That's a bunch of bull because I would play it over again. If I could, if I wasn't 50 years old and I didn't have to take some shots to get myself warmed up, I'd go back out there tomorrow and try to pull it back.


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[Assistant] Uh, I can't explain it. I don't understand it. Uh, but you just have certain synergy with guys that...


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[Assistant] You know what he's gonna do before he does it.


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[Assistant] Dennis Northcote was that guy for me. I, I, you know, he could break off a route and I totally knew what he was going to do. Uh, now KJ, uh,


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[Assistant] If you're asking me, I'd have to go with Northcutt because I just had something going on. It was like telepathic with Dennis Northcutt. I love him and I hate.


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[Assistant] He was my guy that I wanted to throw to and I love throwing to him.


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[Assistant] I don't think so. I don't think I felt that way. Uh, I was, uh, I was a little perturbed, uh, with our coach because I think he pitted Tim and myself against each other. Uh, and he'd probably deny that, but I just felt like,


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[Assistant] In the back of our minds when I started, I felt like...


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[Assistant] That if I play bad, Tim was going to come into the game. And I know that Tim, cause we've talked about it before.


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, my son plays football in college and I've told him, man, don't listen to that stuff because it's crazy. I didn't listen to that stuff. I didn't watch SportsCenter. I didn't do all that stuff. I was just kinda in my own bubble. Uhm, but...


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[Assistant] That would have been fine with either myself or Tim. I can firmly, I firmly believe that, but it was just, it was too wishy washy and that's kind of how his.


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[Assistant] Yo, so just an overall, like, summary of what, uh, uh, his tone, he sounded like he was really frustrated with some of the questions that he was asked. Uh, somebody asked him, you know, there's been speculation that you might not even want to play for the- It's like shit. You're like, no.


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[Assistant] It was underwhelming. I thought that I feel like this is going to be the unicorn year. I said that I felt like this is going to be the year that instead of taking steps forward, this would be the year that Evan Mobley takes a leap forward. I thought yesterday was an opportunity for him to do that without Jared Allen being there and he didn't show up. It was times that I felt like he disappeared through the game. Did he even score in the second half?


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[Assistant] And welcome to the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. We're here every Friday, 1230 to 1 o'clock on WKYC. I'm Jay Crawford. We're going to hear from Bernie Kozar on how the Browns can avoid a trap game.


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[Assistant] That is the question. It's been the question really for a couple of weeks now. How healthy is Sean Watson since the injury to the shoulder? We know what's happened. He's missed a couple of games. One was a win. One was a loss. We've been kind of looking at this week.