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[Assistant] Uh, after he got dressed and was leaving the arena of him talking about, you know, back to the, back to the ground, back to work. You know, we got business to take care of. So I think he went, he represented the city of Cleveland well, but I don't think he really gave a damn about that. I think he's looking at this like I got more important stuff to worry about. I got bigger fish to fry.


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[Assistant] Second half of the season starts Thursday against the Philadelphia 76ers. I can give a damn about this exhibition game. Let me go out here, play around for a little bit, but make sure that I'm not really


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[Assistant] Particular Cavs jersey is like top three and my favorite Cavs, alternate jerseys of all times. Shout out to, uh, to, to Spider Mitchell going out there repping the money.


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[Assistant] The Money Merrill jersey, I think, I think that it was a good way to show, you know, you're all in with the Cleveland Cavaliers. It was a good way to represent the city of Cleveland on a, on a national level and just show some love to your teammate. You know, we have a lot of conversations at Nazium about.


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[Assistant] When does Donovan Mitchell leave on the Cleveland Cavaliers? But even if he do leave, we don't give this dude enough credit, I think, for just being a constant pro. Like always showing that he's all in with the city of Cleveland, supporting his teammates. He's always on social media giving Sam Merrill love, giving Jared Allen love, giving Imani Bates love.


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[Assistant] He's showing that he's a part of this and he wants to be a part of this. And when you do things like that, like it goes a long way and just, you know, increase in how much you're a fan favorite in this city, regardless of all of that.


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[Assistant] And that's what I was about to say. I think that, you know, since, since he's been here, when we hear him talk, he's prioritized winning. He's always said, I just want to win. And I think he's done a great job of putting pressure on the Cavs organization to put him in a situation to have more success than he did in Utah.


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[Assistant] And to win, and like you just alluded to, you look at the pieces that's in place now, you look at this team now, you look at the chemistry and how everything is going now.


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[Assistant] If winning is what this thing is all about, then you are more incentivized, in my opinion, to stay in Cleveland than you are to go to New York.


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[Assistant] You know what I mean? That's just me. Because if this thing is about winning, I think it's being proven that you can win here. And that you can be one of the upper echelon teams in the Eastern Conference and in the entire NBA. We're past the days where, you know, you had the LeBron James that was dominating this era. And I don't think that


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[Assistant] I think super teams are still real, but I don't think super teams kinda like win championships the way that they used to. You need full teams like the Denver Nuggets did last year, and I think that's the trajectory of the NBA. And if you look at the Cleveland Cavaliers now,


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[Assistant] This is a very young, talented roster with a lot of upside being led by Donovan Mitchell. And I think if things continue to be how they are now, I don't see a reason why he would want to leave.


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[Assistant] And I think going forward you should incorporate an event like this, uh, every single year.


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[Assistant] Reggie Miller had this great idea of possibly Klay Thompson and Steph Curry versus Sabrina and Kaitlyn Clark. I think that would be pretty dope. I think when you see the jump in numbers from, from viewership, I think you're getting NBA fans, WNBA fans, I think you're getting supporters of


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[Assistant] Women college sports, women high school sports that's tuning in to see this young lady do something that's monumental. I know that, uh, you know, my daughters was really locked in and tuned in to this. This was their favorite part of the event. And to see Sabrina actually go out there and represent well, she did her league a lot of favors and I think that she did a lot, uh,


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[Assistant] With the confidence boost of, of young women. She went out there cold, Jay. They're not even in season. 26 points from the NBA three point line. And so to me, this was the best part of, of the entire event. It was a lot of fun. And I think this is something that they should definitely continue to do going forward because the women's game is growing.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, dead serious. About seven years ago, and you, you did a story on this person I'm about to talk about. About seven years ago, I absolutely fell in love with women's basketball. I remember going to Gilmore Academy and watching Nas Hill.


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[Assistant] They want to win and they want to prove themselves that, hey, we are real athletes too and we got this. And then with me having daughters that play basketball.


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[Assistant] I find myself more interested, and you're right, the game is growing, especially


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[Assistant] Rightfully so, because it's unfortunate that these women that's playing in the WNBA are not getting paid the way that they want to. And some people might be more passionate about it than others. I have a daughter with hoop drink.


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[Assistant] So it's something that really, really I'm paying attention to.


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[Assistant] I feel like anytime I watch women's hoops, I feel like it's competitive. That's just me.


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[Assistant] Not foot, I'm coming from the free throw lane between the legs, reverse 360 tomahawk.


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[Assistant] It's funny, before you continue, Mike, it was one play during the All-Star game. Kevin Durant was one on one with Dane. And he took him to the rack and he told him, he said, you're too little.


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[Assistant] That's a, that's a creative idea. I think the best way to do it, which would never happen, the best way to make the game ultra competitive and you know, you're getting a hundred percent max effort. Like if you can have a conversation with God first and say, whoever is on the losing team, if y'all lose by more than six, you die tomorrow.


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[Assistant] I think that DTR is unproven, had the injuries. I think with Deshaun Watson, it's the injuries and, you know, uh, uh, question of whether he can overcome the mental hurdles to match what he still can do physically. So I would definitely give it a yellow as well.


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[Assistant] I think it's easy. That's a blue-chip room. Cause you have nicked up.


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[Assistant] And we see AP kind of bounce back from a serious injury on the back half of his career.


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[Assistant] Maybe I'm too optimistic or I'm just looking at this glass half full, but before the injury and even still now I hear what you're saying about 2015, but Nick Chubb has still recovered. He recovered and has had a great career up until this point. And that's why it's fair to compare it to Adrian Peterson. And that's the point I was getting to even before this injury.


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[Assistant] You know, we've been talking a lot about contracts, his age, the position he played, and I've always asked myself,


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[Assistant] Do I view Nick Chubb as in that rare air with Adrian Peterson? And if I do, then for me, he's gonna always be the exception to the rule. And it's just me. To me, he's the exception to the rule. I love the way he plays the game of football, how he carries himself, how he trains, etc.


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[Assistant] I don't know Nick Chubb's body, right? And we all react to surgeries. We, I've never torn anything, but we react to surgeries. We react to being sick. We react to medicine all differently.


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[Assistant] There's, there's no one way that, you know, we recover from things.


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[Assistant] I just think Nick Chubb is that dude on so many levels and I have faith even if he doesn't.


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[Assistant] Even if he's not ready for the first or the second game of the season, whenever Nick Chubb does take that field, I think he's going to be 100% ready and I think that he's still going to have a significant impact.


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[Assistant] And like Jay, I feel what you're saying and I know we're gonna get into this later, but like when I did the Ultimate 216 show this past week, past week, I talked about your journey being your journey. Like we know what the standard is, we know what's that, we know what traditionally happens, this, that, and the third. But if somebody told me there's a 98% chance, Earl, that you can't do this,


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[Assistant] Christmas, I hate those. It's not an option, but...


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[Assistant] Blue and pink makes purple. So they're purple.


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[Assistant] Everybody else is unproven. There's nobody else in that wide receiver room that I can take to Chase Bank and cash that in as a check.


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[Assistant] Now we on UCSS, we makin' our own color. They purple.


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[Assistant] Here's the best way to put it, because we just had the same conversation amongst the running back group, right?


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[Assistant] Jerome Ford might not be all that, but I know Jerome Ford is a home run hitter and he scored touchdowns.


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[Assistant] I think Jerome Ford. Is he? He's a home run hitter and he scores touchdowns. He's, a lot of his plays were big plays, right? So what I'm saying, what I'm saying is,


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[Assistant] This is the point I'm trying to make. This is the point I'm making. When it comes to the second best in each position group, I trust Jerome Ford more than I trust the second best wide receiver on the Cleveland.


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[Assistant] I do not know who I was having this conversation with, but I think it's fair to say that Amari Cooper has been the most productive wide receiver since 99. That's not the point I'm making. That's a dumb moment. Everybody know that. But from an athletic standpoint, from being a flat out dog,


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[Assistant] We've been searching for somebody like Josh Gordon since Josh Gordon. And I can't remember a time, like even if I do my history back in time, I don't know if the Browse ever had a wide receiver like Josh Gordon. And we ain't had one since that.


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[Assistant] We got lucky coming up on Amari Cooper. And so this is a position that I definitely think needs to be addressed.


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[Assistant] And you gotta keep swinging that until you can finally hit that thing out the park. I agree with that but you definitely have to


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[Assistant] Cause it's not working. I'm not saying that this person is going to be a major contributor. I'm just saying that this person I'm about to mention, I'm intrigued by Michael Woods.


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[Assistant] I just, I ain't gonna say he show a lot of something. It's just something about this dude that I'm intrigued and I'm interested to see.


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[Assistant] How he's gonna bounce back from that injury and if he can make this team in this upcoming training camp.


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[Assistant] I like Jordan Aikens. He was somebody that when they added him to this team last offseason.


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[Assistant] I thought that was a good move because he had some familiarity with Deshaun Watson. Harrison Bryant, still a young player, serviceable, solid, good dude. David DeJo Coole has propelled himself into, in my opinion, a top five tight end in the NFL.


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[Assistant] Because like, I know this is not a video game. I know this is not Madden. And so when you get down to the red zone and on the gold line, you gotta be creative. But like,


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[Assistant] In it's most simple form, one plus one will always equal two. Just turn around and get a damn ball of Nick Chucks.


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[Assistant] I got him at yellow, uhm, and the reason I don't have him at blue chip is because the injuries are starting to pile up and age is a real thing.


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[Assistant] But I, I have him at yellow. Joe Botonio, solid, solidified. I know what I get out of Wyatt Teller. Jack Conklin, he got some injury concerns, but when he is healthy, he is always somewhere in the top 12 record to PFF as far as, you know, his offense was great. Then you got the young dudes like Dewan Jones, of course under-


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[Assistant] And not only that, man, even the guys that's, that's rotational pieces, right? Even those dudes can play multiple positions. Right. And, and we've seen them have success do so under Kevin Stefanski's, like, tenureship as the Browns head coach. Right. So I think green is solid.


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[Assistant] So for me, Jay, this is me just having a conversation with my homie as a casual baseball fan.


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[Assistant] I really don't give a damn about them being able to develop pitching, right? You've been developing pitching since I was 13 years old.


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[Assistant] Tell me something I don't know. To me, I think the Cleveland Guardians continue to be hustling backwards, right?


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[Assistant] You always trying to nickel and dime this fan base with these, with these rising stars or, or this farm system when it comes to the offensive side of it. Instead of actually taking some real money and going out there and get you a real piece.


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[Assistant] Not even realizing the money gonna come back to you. If you go get a solid, uh, like a solidified star and you actually spend the money, I can care less about the cap or the market that you pay in.


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[Assistant] Go spend the money, because if he's that dude, you gonna make that money back in merchandise sales. And I don't know if the chat is gonna feel this or not, or if people is gonna watch and feel this or not, I'm sure you will, but this is Cleveland.


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[Assistant] We love our professional sports teams. All we want is a quality product on the field. And I swear to God, we're going to show up and we're going to show out every single time. And when I look at the Dolans as a owner and you look across the landscape of Cleveland, at least Jimmy Haslam tries.


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[Assistant] Like go holla at Dan Gilbert, at least he came through with a championship and yet you continue to sell us on this BS about


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[Assistant] You want to watch Gabriel Arias develop and see if he got it, right? You finessed J Ram and taking this contract with the mindset that you was going to build a team around them and you haven't done so. Like me and Mike was upstairs talking, we playing the mid market and I'm not the most educated when it comes to how to salary cap and how to finance his work in baseball. But I do know teams that's near market teams like Milwaukee.


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[Assistant] So like, don't give me this BS about you want to just sit up there and wait for this young talent to develop to where you really, really pissing off your fan base. We put a quality product out there. We will come and support it. The math is not hard.


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[Assistant] I know for a fact that things can be much better than what they are. And you're like, I know for a fact this city will show up and show out, but yet you keep throwing at us and us facing these BS excuses about why you don't want to go spend money and you're going to expect us to spend our hard money to come down there and support this team. Man, kiss my ass with that.


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[Assistant] If you don't want to answer this, you don't have to, but in your opinion, because you're the biggest baseball guy on this panel, do you think the Dolan's should sell the team?


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[Assistant] It kinda lines up with everything that goes, with the tweets, with the statements, this was their purpose, they purposefully marketed this way.


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[Assistant] So to wrap this up, because I know we got to get to the Black History moment, to answer you directly, yes, I do think he's done enough to earn an opportunity to play some real minutes, but I don't think that's going to happen now. I think that JB Bickerstaff already is having an issue.


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[Assistant] I believe with him on a two way contract, the Cavs can have him active for about 50 games. So if the Cleveland Cavaliers, once we get


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[Assistant] You know, the end of March, early April and the Cavaliers have locked up wherever they're going to be seated at.


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[Assistant] And the playoffs, I think for the rest of that season, once you know exactly where you are and you can't move up or down, let Imani come in and he can do as much run as he possibly can.


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[Assistant] Cause to G's point, you know, in the next year, maybe two years, you hope that he is starting to realize his potential. And now that's that, that, that three, uh, you know, that, that's a pure score. That's a shooter. That's the athlete that you want. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but you know what the old typhus said something last week, and I kinda agree. You know, I think that...


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[Assistant] I think he's on the right team. I think he's in the right situation. I think he's on the right organization. But this is a marathon. This isn't a sprint. I like that approach. And the fact that it is that.


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[Assistant] I think that if he can just continue to just be still, continue to work hard as he said, the main thing, the main thing, stay patient, keep grinding, then you can reach your potential right here with the Cleveland Cavaliers.


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[Assistant] Uh, I wish we had more time because of who it was. This is a bad job out of us. We're rushing it because of who this is. But today...


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[Assistant] The 19th of February in 1947, uh, Jackie Robinson broke the baseball's color barrier for the Brooklyn Dodgers.


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[Assistant] He won a National League Rookie of the Year award to help the Dodgers to the National League Championship, to the National League Championship, the first of his six trips to the World Series. In 1949, Robinson won a League MVP award, was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1962, and of course every year on April 15th,


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[Assistant] Baseball players around the entire league. We're number 42 in this honor. The numbers otherwise, of course, retired throughout the league. So today, we honor Jackie Robinson. You're a baseball dude. Uh, today, you know, perfect day. Like, shout out to Jackie Robinson.


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[Assistant] Can I toss a grenade in here? My crazy theory is that Higgins is going to Minnesota for Justin Jefferson in a pick.


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[Assistant] We also have to play the Raiders in Las Vegas this year. Who else is in the south?


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[Assistant] I put up the poll for which trio our chat thinks is the top one. It's the Browns at 46%, with the Ravens at 33%, Bangles at 20%, and Steelers at 1. They were sitting at 0 for most of that.


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[Assistant] Uh, go ahead, Anthony. What do you got? Yeah, before we get into the Super Check, guys, I just want to give a shout out to everybody watching today. Y'all have been great. Uh, remember to like and subscribe so you get notifications from when we do all of our spinoff shows, Ultimate Guardians announcements coming soon. Are we making that now? Can we make that right now? I don't know.


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[Assistant] Yeah, here, we'll do the super chat real fast. It comes from D-Dog. He just says, don't forget about Michael Woods too, who tore his achilles while working out. Watson, he's never really gotten a good look. Let's see him in camp.


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[Assistant] So this is, listen, so I got two games. Shout out, we used to have a dynasty, shout out, uhm, to my man from North Carolina, Gavin Richardson, aka G Rich, aka the Richardson charge, he was a quarterback, he had the dreadlocks and the visor, stayed for three and a half years, he was getting that NIL before the NIL, and then,


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[Assistant] Omar Chase at defensive end, Oklahoma State. Omar Chase was the first dude to run a 4-4 at the combine, got drafted by the Eagles. Shout out to my man, Omar Chase.


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[Assistant] He does. Like, we was deep into it. We was like, we was heavy into it. And there was a guy, shout out to my roommate Chris Foreman by the way. He used to, he used to, he used to call...


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[Assistant] Uhm, he used to have this, this safety cord, uh, uh, his last name was Mack, and he used to sing the Return of the Mack song, right?


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[Assistant] That's fair. I expect that. Anthony, you, you, I can't believe you got a dynasty.


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[Assistant] Now, when I think about the Browns going into Arrowhead, or playing the Ravens, or playing the Dolphins, I can say I got it.


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[Assistant] And Amari Cooper, can you imagine the professional routes they would run on people? Could you imagine the type of up top skill set that they got? 13 touchdowns last year, 1200 yards, I memorized all the stats. I believe it's 79 receptions. I want all parts of my.


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[Assistant] I get it. You know, what's the cons? We'll hear a lot of them.


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[Assistant] Well, I never understood this. I never quite got it.


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[Assistant] Uhm, we saw what Baker Mayfield was able to do, right? You had Godwin, you had Mike Evans, uhm, Sean White at the backfield. Yes, they have weapons. Baker was able to take you.


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[Assistant] To the second round of the playoff, right? Now everybody thinks that Baker is not some crazy franchise quarterback, but you see what you can get if you got the weapons. If you gonna put all this pressure on Deshaun Watson, which is rightfully so because you want him to perform.


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[Assistant] That's lazy. Like, if I'm gonna be on a show, I want somebody else to be, to come up with some hot fire lines. I want the best producers and directors. Why would you say, your lead host has to make everyone better, and you got kids coming out of, out of, out of middle school, joining them on the set, and he gotta do everything. No, I wanna, I need


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[Assistant] Top notch weapons and you can, that means you can go and compete at the highest level and everybody needs to stop saying this.


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[Assistant] You got to. And sometimes I think we stuck. I did a little bit on the, uh, on the Ottoman Brown Show the other day.


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[Assistant] And I said, let's, let me look at the, it's, yardage wise, let's look at the top five receivers of all time for the Cleveland Browns. And the problem was...


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[Assistant] These people, these people all played, like, during World War II.


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[Assistant] You got a problem, bro. Like black and white TV and pictures have been gone for centuries. And we put those up and those are our guys. And then you think about it, I just said, wow, like,


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[Assistant] Could you do that to any other team? I'm, I'm watching guys like Andre Johnson get into the Hall of Fame, uh, Reggie Wayne get into the Hall of Fame. And it's like, wow, I saw those guys playing and we still didn't have no receivers. You go back to the eighties and be like, well, who was really Andre Reed, uh, uh, Curtis Lofton and Jerry Rice and, and, and,


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[Assistant] We still didn't have no receivers. Like, we got all the way to the 2020s, and we finally got Amari Cooper, but you could argue that Amari Cooper, if he goes to the Hall of Fame, or if it was the Hall of Very Good, his best years was with Dallas.


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[Assistant] So let me ask y'all this question, you know, I play devil's advocate a little bit.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, it's, you know, I would, I would. Cause he is 31, to Earl's point. He is 31.


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[Assistant] He's all famer by the way. I done did this two years in a row. Like this ain't nothing new to me. And you point out what major injury I've had so far. Now, here's the devastating part.


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[Assistant] It's one of them things where you be like, man, I'ma go get this, this 2016 Chevy Earl. It look nice, but will you check in the malls out?


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[Assistant] Engine light check. Come on. Check engine light. Come on. Doom. You looking around. If he was to get hurt...


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[Assistant] And that was their main guy? Cause check, I always naturally assume that all these dudes gonna get hurt. It's the Browns, they all gonna get hurt.


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[Assistant] Operation Stoppile means I'm getting one named receiver that is proven. I still need to go get another secondary guy that I can maybe mold or possibly draft a guy with speed. Let me ask you a question, Earl. What's up?


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[Assistant] Is that a fair question, G? That's a very fair question, and I'm gonna tell you exactly, uh, what the answer to that is. Yes, it changes things. Let me give you an example.


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[Assistant] I was, uh, in my previous marriage. We was, we was going to counseling and everything. And she came home one day and hit me with the, you know what? We already had one rental property. We came to the spot. She like, you know what? I think we should get another rental property. Mmm.


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[Assistant] No, no, no, Eric Spoelstra, Eric Spoelstra, you're a smart man.


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[Assistant] Like, shout out to Pat Riley. That's what I mean. That's a good employer. I love that about you, man. But yea, no, yea, that's gonna change the way Andrew Berry do. Because he might not see.


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[Assistant] You're going to get one of the, at least the way it works in Cleveland. For the most part, when you go and spin that bag,


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[Assistant] Right? No, so get your, get your cuts in, dawg. At least if you go out and say, listen, we wanted to get a receiver, we went and did it, uhm, we did it when we needed to do it in the next couple years because we thought that was our window. He's not only gonna get the benefit of the doubt from our fan base, but if they don't sign him back,


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[Assistant] It's a better look for somebody else going to get him and say, I like what Andrew Berry did. He was aggressive in Cleveland, got a raw deal.


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[Assistant] Well, you should tell me how much, I wanna sit on the floor. How much does that cost? Uh, we're gonna do it Friday, G. We're actually gonna do the game.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I made a good point because I was going to go into this thing and make it green.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but when you, when you, when you guys break it down and you start talking about what they already have, uhm.


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[Assistant] I think that it's more along the lines of more blue than green because of the fact that Miles Garrett is there. The defensive tackles, if you get, if you sign Maurice Hurst back. He tackles on category. So just the ends.


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[Assistant] You still, if you can start with Miles Garrett, I mean, you gotta have pink players to bring it down, right? We're gonna get to some groups where that's the case, by the way. We're gonna talk about that later. Uhm, but I like, uh, I like, you know, I like Zedarius Smith. I think he's a...


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[Assistant] He's a, a, he played above average last year. Uhm, I like Alex Wright. He showed me some things down the stretch. Uhm, and I like Albo.


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[Assistant] Now he's more of a just a regular pass rusher, but I still like him. I would say he's a green player too.


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[Assistant] So I think given the fact that you start with Miles Garrett and you continue to move and you think you got some young guys that can do something.


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[Assistant] I will, I will roll with a blue. A light baby blue, the same color as my shoes.


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[Assistant] Ah yeaah, this ain't no blue chip. This is more like a... This is green.


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[Assistant] You know, I think they're good. Uh, I like Shelby Harris. Probably can bring him back on a one-year deal. Maurice Hershey could probably bring him back on a short-term deal. Uhm, I like what Tomlinson gave you, uh, in spurts. He's a good defensive tackle. I thought Jordan Elliott played a lot better than what he, you know, had shown previous to that. So for me,


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[Assistant] I like the room, uh, unfortunately.


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[Assistant] You're not going to be able to be a blue chip everywhere. That's just what it is. Like, and I think it's fine if you can go with good, right? If you got blue chip D in mixed with green.


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[Assistant] That's, that's good enough right there. Like, especially if you gonna have a defensive player of the year. Uhm, so I would go with the green on, on this one. Now, could I nitpick if somebody, if somebody say, look, to me it's yellow, given the fact that


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[Assistant] Hey, you know Shelby Harris, okay, but he's a one-year guy. He's, he's not young. Maurice Hurst got injured last year. Dalvin Thomas is a nose tackle, so you're not going to get much production in terms of sacks or anything from him. So I would go with that as yellow. Now.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't be mad at you. I would just say that given the way that the defensive tackles played last year, and if they bring those guys back, I would, I would lean more towards a green than a yellow.


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[Assistant] I think this is, this is not a leap of faith, assuming they get two out of the three and resign them. Then, and this is, for me, this is any two out of the three.


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[Assistant] I would lean, I would lean out. I liked what you did right there. Maurice Hurst, I think he was in the top 10 for defensive tackles, recorded PFF for bash rush grade. I think they'll sign him back. I think that they'll bring Jordan Elliott back because he's developing and you know, he, I was on Jordan Elliott a lot.


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[Assistant] He was awesome this year. Really, really great. So I think they bring him back. I think they let Shelby Harris go. Uh, Siaka Ika will get more of those minutes than those playing time. And then they'll probably go look at, uh, a free agency if they can get another bargain defense tackle, um, that way. So I agree with that.


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[Assistant] I love which, man, Earl, you done had some gems, man. You done had some gems today. I'll give you credit for that. I like that. I like your, your theory about injury.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think the new, I think the new going rate right now is you, you gotta break it down into like waves. Like, if you think a player could give you 10 games,


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[Assistant] You say, okay, that's average, right? If he give you two or 12 games.


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[Assistant] You're like, oh, that's good. I'll take 12 games. If he can give you 14, excellent.


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[Assistant] Very successful. Like, you know, you're gonna get hurt. All of them are gonna get hurt. It's just what it is. I don't know why. And it's weird because we never thought about it like that before because, you know, everybody's like, oh, he has durability issues. Like, ain't nobody playing 17 games running into nobody else. Like,


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[Assistant] And not play, you see what I'm saying? Ain't nobody playing 17 games. It's impossible. Like especially, and then be injured.


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[Assistant] Like, like, and then go into the playoffs and play all the playoffs too? No. It's just not working. So if you give me solid 10 games...


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[Assistant] I just could imagine a man coming down and his whole lower body giving out on him. Like, how is that possible? Your whole, like below the waist, you're just done. Like that's crazy.


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[Assistant] Shout out to LaCharles Bentley, man. He was an all pro center for the Saints. All Pro!


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[Assistant] We signed him Cleveland kid Ignatius kid. Very first snap of the OTAs gone.


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[Assistant] That's special. He technically is considered a linebacker in my opinion.


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[Assistant] There's some names, Devin White that they just basically sat down in Tampa Bay, they moved on from him, right? You know, didn't really, he's one of the better guys in coverage, not so much in the run game.


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[Assistant] He's one year, almost all year from, uhm, ACL surgery. Jordan Brooks out of Seattle. Yeah. Uhm, like Jordan. Great run stuffer. Nice run stuffer. Like him a lot. Run defense is good. Uh, in the, in the, you know, uh, coverage grade in the box isn't that great, but.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he, he's, he's a good linebacker and he can, he's a three down linebacker. I think you move on from, uh, Anthony Walker.


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[Assistant] Uh, he's just, his body, you know, can't, you know, his body, you know, betrayed him a little bit. He's been hurt the last three years. I think Taki Taki is one of the more important signings just because he's going to give you special teams and his move to Mike Backer to me is his best position. Ty was talking about it all the time and to me.


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[Assistant] J.O.K. is, uh, sometimes you, you know, you ever go to, you'd be in middle school, you'd go from middle school to high school, and there was the girl that you used to play football with, and she was a tomboy, and then she'd get to high school, and you'd be like, hold on, what happened to you over the summer?


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[Assistant] That's J.O.K. Like that, like, go put them numbers up.


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[Assistant] If you want to talk about the Cleveland Browns defense, that guy was the only guy that showed up against the Houston Texans. He made play after play after play after play, 20 tackles for loss, a hundred tackles three. Listen, these are pro numbers right here. And guess what? I think the light went on for him. The green light went off. I think next year.


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[Assistant] I'm telling you, look, look, I'll let you know. I know we like vows. That guy next year could put up a year where if you talking about he gets five sacks. Come on now.


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[Assistant] Oh b-by the way, uh, I'm gonna give it- I didn't give it a score, I was just talking. Uhm, I'mma give him a-a yellow.


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[Assistant] Amen. Your man, he got a good number, but that's about it.


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[Assistant] Shout out to my man, Thornhill, man. You look great on game days, but I was expecting some more plays, dawg.


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[Assistant] I know Jason Lloyd talks about he has good pursuit angle. That ain't getting it done on your mat rating. Like he, they don't, your pursuit, and your pursuit is a 97. What's your tackle then?


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[Assistant] It is a position. Look, he's reaching a lot. Like there's a lot of reaching going on. No body to body contact. This is like a middle school dance.


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[Assistant] I didn't have one back then, but they be like, no, don't you be, what you doing? What y'all doing? They ain't even play certain songs. I'll give it a yellow. I like Ronnie Hickman.


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[Assistant] I'll change my pick to, uh, unripened bananas.


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[Assistant] I could have went down a little bit longer. Cedric Tillman gave me, didn't give me nothing. Uh, DeWine Jones was the one that made the hit and he made the splash. Uhm, but nah man, I can't, like, I can't.


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[Assistant] Give it no higher than that. DTR, I know we like DTR. Ken Mitchell, okay, cool, Luke Whippler.


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[Assistant] If you really want to get cute about it, because Jawan Jones is like, okay, he played, but he didn't play the whole entire year. Uhm, some of the other kids got an opportunity, not kids, but they grown man, but you know, they got an opportunity, some of the young guys got an opportunity to play, but it wasn't no Zay Flowers.


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[Assistant] That's bad if that's what you do for- That's like being like, hey man, I'm a production guy. Hey, he need to work on his graphics though.


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[Assistant] It's good. G, what are you gonna say? Oh, well, yeah, they just got it. They just need better.


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[Assistant] They gotta have better talent. They just gotta keep getting it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Whatever way you gonna get it, like in a draft, the draft is, you know, when people used to say back in the day that was our Super Bowl was to draft. What we starting to learn now is,


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[Assistant] On, on some of them. And for the Browns to, cause you said it earlier in the show, they're gonna have to start rebuilding to a point where they're gonna have to get some guys.


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[Assistant] Maybe a Luke Whippler is a guy that they can use to, you know, peace here and there if they gotta let one of the guards go. But they gotta hit on some of these third, fourth rounders or, you know, they can't afford to just go get all free agents. They gotta hit on some of these dudes.


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[Assistant] I thought, I think if they said, you know what, Juan Thornhill, thanks for your contributions, but we're going to move on with somebody younger. I wouldn't have no problem with Ronnie Hickman now. He just needs to keep his eyes in the right place and be more disciplined.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but for him to play at that rate as an undrafted free agent, uhm, I think he's gonna take another step too.


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[Assistant] I think he can play that position. I think that's the only, one of the biggest, see this, I've been eyeing this for a long time.


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[Assistant] When you got, you, you gave the big contractor this award.


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[Assistant] Then when you got Emerson and you accidentally hit on him, and that happens in the league. Sometimes you get a third round guy, he's a gym, and all of a sudden he outplays where he was drafted at.


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[Assistant] Then you could draft a Greg Newsome and you say, ooh, we gotta move you to the slot. Here's one thing I do know. There's no way all three of those guys are gonna be on the roster.


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's two things I need him to figure out.


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[Assistant] I need their version of a Def lineup. Uhm, in the playoffs, there's gonna be some times where you...


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[Assistant] Are going to want to exploit certain matchups and you're going to need to put up some points in a quick fashion.


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[Assistant] I needed them to figure out the three point death lineup where you got, you know, maybe Isaac and Cora playing a three, uhm, whether you got, whether Sam Merrill is in there with Donovan Mitchell, uhm, as well as if you got a Struce


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[Assistant] Sam Merrill, Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, and one of the bigs. And, you know, can you get that lineup to where you now have an opportunity to, to, to like, you know, play and, and, and maximize your three-point shooting ability? Also, I want a defensive lineup.


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[Assistant] Somebody where you can place and make sure that Isaac O'Coro is on the floor.


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[Assistant] Uhm, to help out on a Darius Garland. Uhm, maybe you might have to pair a Darius Garland with an Isaac and Coral. You give up a little bit of something with the offense with a Coral, but you also keep people out of the paint with Darius Garland. So I think there's these little small little tinkering lineups that they want to do. And two,


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[Assistant] And I think, you know, I'm not just saying this just because I'm saying this, you're going to go down a backstretch. This is a good opportunity.


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[Assistant] To give guys like Sam Merrill, uh, playin' time. To give guys like Imani Bates playin' time. To give guys like Craig Porter Jr. playin' time. Because guess what? If you're gonna have this time, you, the Cavs are one or two injuries away from what happens if Darius Garland goes down for 10 games, 15 games.


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[Assistant] You need to get somebody to do some playing time and think about it like this McNuggets, sometimes in the playoffs you just want to spark.


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[Assistant] Hey, come on over here and come out here and come over here and let's take a look at the spark and see if you can hit a couple threes and get a spark off the bench. So I'm trying to see some of the little, little nuances. Uhm, and at the same time, try to figure out these lineups that you can run that you're going to need against the Bostons if you're going to make a big run.


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[Assistant] Right? So yeaah, so they're like, if Dean Wade starts off and he's that guy, the shooter, he's not hitting, George Nian comes in. If George Nian ain't hitting, hey, we might have to make it, we might have to go smaller. Max True is going to have to stay in the game. I think that is one of the things that JB is going to have to really


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[Assistant] I think the better act is understanding in crunch time what move am I making and who am I going to give these minutes to today, like right now.


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[Assistant] I think, I think one of the substitution pattern and I think people need to get


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[Assistant] Wrap their minds around it. I truly believe.


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[Assistant] You're going to see Isaac Ikora in the game. He'll follow Brunson around. Donovan Mitchell will be the game is the point. You'll also have Harris Laverdian as a secondary ball handler that can get to the rim.


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[Assistant] We haven't even seen, and we've seen Darius Garland not finishing games, but the last time we saw him, he had a pretty nice game. I thought he looked more like himself, but there are going to be times where


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[Assistant] He's not going to be able to be on the floor like that because like he's defensively, right?


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[Assistant] And to me, the toughest matchup out of anything is the Knicks.


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[Assistant] I don't think about the Celtics because I think that you can almost get.


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[Assistant] And they're not going to take advantage of the fact that Presengus is down there on a guy or catches him on a switch. And so I'm like, those dudes, those are the dudes that kill you. It's the Jew holidays and the whites and the, and the, and the Presengus that I believe that have just basically


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[Assistant] By the way, Anthony getting y'all boys up outta here, man. Y'all boys in the chat better behave. Everybody got comment during Black History Month. Y'all better be cool.


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[Assistant] You know, I look, I got a conspiracy theory about it. For me, I think he says this.


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[Assistant] And he says this because in his heart that he believes, like, look, I'm not a person who is getting my justice hurts. I think LeBron feels uncelebrated in LA. I think he feels under, you know, under respected. I don't know if that's a word.


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[Assistant] You know, Kobe got a statue. Shaq got the statue. Magic got the statue. LeBron, you know, Kareem. He's never, you know, never, you know, even Wilt Chamberlain. He's never Jerry West. He's not even really in their top ten as far as the Laker culture goes.


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[Assistant] I think when he went there and he won the championship, he thought it was going to be more. They devalued it and said it was a COVID championship. He was the all time leading scorer.


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[Assistant] And instead of them giving him flowers for taking care of his body, eating right, being a physical specimen and working hard, they just say he's nationally gifted over Michael Jordan, right?


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[Assistant] And so, you know, Michael Jordan didn't play, you know, he had the advantage of playing and coming into the league, um, you know, when he was 18, Jordan stayed in college. Well, that's because he wasn't better than Michael Jordan, wasn't better than LeBron in 18. Like that's just a reality. If he was that good.


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[Assistant] He would have been in the league getting them buckets, but he wasn't. I think LeBron feels and realizes like,


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[Assistant] Man, it ain't, it ain't the same. Like, if he would have stayed in Cleveland, especially the second time,


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[Assistant] He would have been celebrated at a higher level than he is today, uh, because we would have put him on that pedestal and said, nah, this is the greatest dude of all time. And that's why I think the farewell


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[Assistant] You know, uh, Jason, uhm, one of the things that, uh, we had Will Brennan on the other day, and he made it seem like, uhm, there was a major shift in


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[Assistant] The philosophy at the plate. Uhm, guys are going to be...


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[Assistant] You know, trying to improve their power numbers. Uhm, and you know, I asked him this question is, is that something that you either have or you don't? I see a lot of major league pitchers who are now increasing their velocity.


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[Assistant] You know, two, three miles an hour. These guys all over the internet are doing that. Is that something that teams are working on, uhm, now that can improve power or do you believe that's just something you're either born with or you got it or you don't?


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[Assistant] It's, it's really cool. Like you said, I mean, all five of them, if you like, could win the Cy Young or, um, Shane has obviously done it before, but the other four.


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[Assistant] Could make a case for. Uhm, but it, it is cool to...


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[Assistant] Kind of follow up that and be a part of a bullpen group behind that starting rotation because of how, how dominant they are and it makes it a lot.


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[Assistant] Easier on a bullpen when you got a good starting rotation like that, so you're not throwing in the second or third inning every other day.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, it's a lot of fun to kind of see the growth and the maturity of the younger guys in the staff.


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[Assistant] Hey, no super chat here, but this comment warns to be talked about. Shout out to John Canterbury. Bull looks like he got traded from the Red Sox to the Yankees. That's right. That's true. No facial hair.


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[Assistant] I still think he's a blue chip, I can tell you why. First and foremost, I think the things about age and position, in my opinion, those are cliches and stereotypes.


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[Assistant] But how? Because you have premier wide receive, the premier, the top premier wide receivers right now in the NFL are all between 29 and 31 years old. That's not true.


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[Assistant] It's not relevant to me. I'm trying to get it out. Go ahead. I think Nick Tubb is Bluetooth, period. Uhm, I don't really have concerns about the injuries or his age or his position. I look at Nick Tubb in rare air like I looked at Adrian Peterson when he played the position. I understand that he's torn multiple ligaments in the same knee multiple times. The first time he did that was 2015.


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[Assistant] That was what? Nine years ago. So I'm not really too concerned with that.


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[Assistant] Think of it how they want to think of it, but when you look at science, medicine, and recovery in 2024, this is not the 1980s.


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[Assistant] I think that he can fully recover and come back and still have a significant impact. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but that's what I feel.


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[Assistant] Really don't exist. But Nick Tubb is not those dudes. I think Nick Tubb is in rare air like Adrian Peterson.


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[Assistant] Because that's my opinion, just like this entire list is rejected to be anybody's opinion, I still think he's a blue chip runnaback.


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[Assistant] You give the steals if you had to give them one of those three. Between, uh, Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, and Kirk Cousins? Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Alright Earl, what do we got? Before we move on, in a perfect, in a perfect world, the Steelers GM will kind of like lose all of his common sense and, and football knowledge. And he will call Anthony Berry and say, how can I acquire PJ Walker to be my starting quarterback? Because I believe that his best days is ahead of him.


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[Assistant] Uh, that may be a casual, uh, salary cap casualty.


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[Assistant] Uh, both of those outlets selected Nick Chubb to be the guy that would be the casualty. Do you see it that way?


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[Assistant] Question and a comment, but the comment first because I'm reading the comments in the chat. Shout out to the chat. Somebody said if AB was to cut, uh, Nick Chubb, he might as well turn in his badge. Now somebody else said he'll be ran out of town.


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[Assistant] We talk about the emotional ties to Nick Chubb, right? And you just... Peep how the show started.


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[Assistant] Me and Bull going back and forth about a difference in opinion about Nick Chubb. I think when I say he's a blue chip player,


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[Assistant] I've talked about this before. I've unique chub, not just as a football player, but the epitome of what you want this organization to be. And so,


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[Assistant] I learned this in Ohio Media School. I don't think content creators today are just putting out content for the sake of.


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[Assistant] They do what I do. They try to emotionally trigger you. So if you read Nick Chubb...


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[Assistant] So before we do the black history moment, uh, kind of seeing this elsewhere, wanted to have the conversation with you all. And I think this is going to get spirited. The great late Jim Brown.


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[Assistant] Yesterday's Black History moment was about Jackie Robinson. And we talked about how Jackie Robinson, Jersey is retired across Major League Baseball. Should the same thing be the case for Jim Brown?


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[Assistant] Uh, so just a couple things. I want to make sure that I'm careful with what I say and how we have this conversation. I do think this is a great spirited conversation, but I want to give proper credit to Creative Juice because he had a comment that that's about to spark what I'm about to say.


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[Assistant] We're talking about some of the allegations against Jim Brown, right? Now, I'm not saying if all of them are true or not, but we do know that this man played a significant role in the civil rights movement, right? He was a civil rights activist.


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[Assistant] Bull, you're a fan of the show Godfather of Harlem. And I remember a couple of seasons ago when Malcolm X's, uh, wife, Betty, got the letter about Malcolm sleeping with Elise. And he says they were, sometimes they would tell lies on me just to discredit me.


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[Assistant] Is there any chance that some of these things


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[Assistant] Alright, so G what you just said, I'm speaking directly to you, right? You a spiritual brother. That's called like being a disciple.


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[Assistant] Right? That's what he was. Because like, my grandmother used to teach me all the time, like,


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[Assistant] All of God's disciples was gangsters. It was not in the church. Meaning you gotta go through some stuff. You actually gotta be out here in the trenches making mistakes, trial and error in order to go back and teach and educate. If you've never done anything wrong, if you've never been in no hard spot,


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[Assistant] How in the hell can you go to somebody else and try to tell them, hey, this is what you shouldn't do if X, Y, and Z occur? I think a lot of times, and when I'm on a set, you know, I speak to this point all the time.


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[Assistant] We forget that athletes are humans and it pisses me off when somebody puts this unrealistic expectation that they are role models. 99% of the people don't know these people personally.


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[Assistant] And I just feel like we all got floored.


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[Assistant] Ever episode. We all got our own opinion. We all grew up different ways. I was raised on how can somebody be your role model?


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[Assistant] That you've never met one on one, that you've never had a personal conversation with, that never taught you anything. I tell people all the time, my father was my role model. I don't need Brett Favre, Steve McNair, Deion Sanders to be my role model.


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[Assistant] I just think that often that we forget we are all humans. All of us are flawed. All of us has made mistakes and I get it. The perception, public perception is, is different and it all depends, like some of us are spiritual, some of us are not, right? And so,


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[Assistant] Depending on what you believe, there's no, there is no difference between him being accused of assault.


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[Assistant] Alright, before we move on, that was a great conversation. And don't forget to catch the all the of the, uh, ultimate clothes on the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show YouTube page, the Ultimate 216 Show, Ultimate Cavs, Ultimate Brown Show, and very soon the Ultimate Guardians Show as they'll be, uh, they'll be getting started here in a couple of weeks.


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[Assistant] I seen this online and I thought this was pretty cool.


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[Assistant] Who is your biggest? Imagine if they stayed athlete in the city of Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Uh, one of them was Carlos Boozer, my bad, I was working back here. Oh yeaah, I like that. Uh, I think like in the early, like when LeBron first was drafted, I was really interested to see how him and Carlos Boozer could mesh and play off each other just for a couple years, but.


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[Assistant] My heart still hurts that Matty did not retire with the Cleveland Indians slash Guardians, but whatever the case may be.


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[Assistant] Let me go through and check. I was thinking hard on somebody with the Cleveland Browns and I couldn't. Most of them are with the Indians. Yeah. Go figure, right?


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[Assistant] All right, so we're going to do a quick, quick change. Yeaah. We're going to do who will be the Cavaliers X Factor for the second half of the season and overtime and then we'll probably make that public eventually.


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[Assistant] I wanna read the one super chat and then what was gonna be overtime, talk about it the last 10 minutes of the show.


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[Assistant] Yeah, real quick, uh, shout out to everybody who always send us super chats. Damien, uh, Frederick.


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[Assistant] Said that imagine if the Brown state in Cleveland, LOL. Uh, so shout out to Dane for that. So this was going to be over time. We can do this for the last four or five minutes of the show. Anytime that you're in this whole seat, bull, I got to set you up. Nice. One got to go movie edition. Remember the Titans space jam, the original.


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[Assistant] You know, there's plenty of great past rushes. Uhm, you can take Reggie White, you can take Bruce Smith, Lawrence Taylor, uhm, everybody has their own little Nick.


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[Assistant] On how to get to the quarterback, how to defeat that, uh, that guy in front of him. You know, mine was leverage. Uh, Miles.


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[Assistant] I think that gives, uh, Lyman a lot, a lot of trouble. So when I look at Miles play, that's what I see as a big advantage for him. He's able to dip that shoulder, uh, very easily and turn his hips and get around.


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[Assistant] Uhm, as a matter of fact, I called the, uh, complex probably a week ago to congratulate him. I didn't have his number, but I called to congratulate him that, uh, and being NFL Defensive Player of the Year. I mean, that's a great honor.


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[Assistant] Coach that guy was AFC Differential Player of the Year. So, uh, much love to him and he deserves it.


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[Assistant] Well, number one, I'm pretty much laid back guy. I don't stay in the public eye.


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[Assistant] And uhm, you know, if I was on the radio or doing TV, I'm pretty sure I would have been


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[Assistant] I would have been in a long time ago. And it's funny that you say that because, uhm, about four or five years ago, uhm, a guy brought that to my attention.


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[Assistant] He said, I can't remember who it was, but someone wrote an article in Sports Illustrated and they said that out of all the defensive titles, and this is before Seymour and, uh, uh, Bryant was, um, inducted a couple of years ago, it was before those two guys came in and he said, you know, they did a search and said, like you, like you just mentioned, there were, I don't know how many defensive titles, but anyone who had,


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[Assistant] Four or more have been selected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The only guy who was not was myself. I was like, wow, I didn't realize that. So by you, you know, making that comment, I think others are talking about it. Uh, hopefully, you know, I'll get inducted.


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[Assistant] To be honest, I don't know what the reasons are. Uh, like I said before, when you talk about my accomplishments,


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[Assistant] The mere fact that your performance on the field speaks for itself, that's all that should matter.


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[Assistant] Plain and simple. So when you have, when the individuals who are supposed to select vote on individuals who made an impact in this game, regardless of where you play, they should see that individual and say, Hey, you know what? This guy is deserving. So.


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[Assistant] In my humble opinion, if you're, you know, produced on the field, if you were a great player on the field, you should be recognized. That's my take.


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[Assistant] Okay, I'll tell you, it was a spring game, uh, spring practice. It was my senior season. So that had to be the spring of, uh, 88.


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[Assistant] And uh, we were doing number one offense, number one defense at the time.


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[Assistant] They ran. I might have had two or three sacks, tackles, fall logs. And so Coach Ford, so Coach Ford yelled at me and think, think about this guy. He's yelling at me. So I'm like, okay, wait a minute. Did I jump off side? I'm in trouble. What, what happened? And he yelled Michael and he has a very high pitched voice. And he would yell, Michael, hey!


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[Assistant] And, uh, you know, people still talk about that story because if you know Coach Ford, he was a very tough, uh, individual and it took a lot for you to get kicked out of practice.


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[Assistant] He said that's one of the guys that I had to kick out of practice because I could get nothing done. I think the biggest compliment.


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[Assistant] Some of the guys that we have on our front now, I'm like, yeah, okay, right. You blowing smoke because my brother is up there. So you just being nice, but sure enough, you know, I ended up having a pretty good career and I saw him in Denver when I played in Denver, um, back in 96, 97, he said, what did I tell you? I said, yes, you did tell me that, but that just goes to show you, I,


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, that was one of the instances. And then another time, as a sophomore, they moved me from defensive end to outside linebacker and, and, uh, and training camp, I broke my, uh, my leg. And so coach Ford came up to him. He said, Oh, Michael,


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[Assistant] Yeah, so that's when it clicked. Okay, I must be pretty decent. And that's when it, you know, started thinking, okay, I have a chance to play on the next level. That's awesome.


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[Assistant] Absolutely. Uhm, you hear it a lot in golf.


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[Assistant] About, uh, you know, individuals, and the biggest example probably is Tiger Woods, you know. This game is played between the ears, and when D'Shawn can block out


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[Assistant] There's no doubt in my mind that Deshaun Watson, uh, can be that.


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[Assistant] That player that he once was, and everybody's looking forward to seeing. There's no doubt in my mind, he can't get back to that level.


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[Assistant] Let me tell you something. You guys can look at an average player


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[Assistant] Play very well and we may dominate or we may get the best of that guy, but believe me, that guy is still a pretty good damn athlete.


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[Assistant] Even though that, you know, he's playing against some of the best athletes that ever play the game, still yet, you can't discount that guy and say, oh, that guy's garbage, that guy's this, that guy's that. There's a reason why Deshaun Watson was drafted.


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[Assistant] I would say, yeah, probably time has passed him up, but clearly not. So if he can just focus on.


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[Assistant] Playing the game of football, focus on himself.


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[Assistant] And getting, you know, back to that level, I think he will be fine, yeaah. So that's what I see. As an athlete to another athlete, unless he's, he's hurt or he's old, you always have that, that, that, that hope that, that guy can get back to


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[Assistant] The status that he once had, because of what? Physically?


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[Assistant] He's not able to do it. No matter how much he tries, his body has broken down. That's why.


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[Assistant] This guy, this guy, yeaah, exactly, very impossible. So lemme tell you what happened. I can't take all the credit.


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[Assistant] Uh, we're in Cleveland, of course, at the same time, and...


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[Assistant] We're going to the uh, training room, get tape, get ready for practice. So they'll give you the schedule.


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[Assistant] So, Jerry came to me, he said, Michael Dean, do you see this? I'm like, what? He said, Belichick has us.


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[Assistant] And I stood on the other. So, Mike Johnson, Clay Matthews, at that time, Benny Testaverde.


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[Assistant] No, I'm just kidding. Leroy, Leroy is a great, uh, teammate. He's a great, uh, he was a great player. Uhm, you know, I don't have, uhm,


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[Assistant] I mean, he was pretty much to himself. He did what he had to do. Uhm, he was a good teammate. So, I don't have any stories you can bust his butt about.


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[Assistant] I know. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I back up. I digress. So we were at practice. Bill, I think it was his first year in Cleveland. And so we're in practice, right? And Bill was, was just, you know, you know, Bill, he was just irate to the point of he just, just all on everybody. And so Bernie tells Bill, he said, lighten up, go get you some.


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[Assistant] You know, you have an advantage, of course, when you're on defense at home, because you got to deal with the crowd. And I tell people all the time that I love playing in Cleveland Stadium, because when the fans got behind you, I mean, when we were really playing, I mean, it was tough for our offense to audible, to hit a snap count. So that's the, that's the big advantage. Uhm, but here again, when you talk about championship teams,


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[Assistant] Uh, I've never experienced that, uh, as close as I came was L.C. Championship game, but those are the teams that play well on the road as well as at home. And Cleveland can be that team, I mean they have


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[Assistant] Like you play at home. And, you know, I don't know.


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[Assistant] It should be that big a difference from home to playing at home and then playing away.


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[Assistant] I wish I did, I wish I did, but I, you know, because it doesn't, it didn't matter to me. I can only speak about myself when I play.


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[Assistant] It doesn't, it didn't matter to me if I played in Cleveland, which I enjoyed playing, or I played in Houston, or I played in Denver, it doesn't, it didn't matter. You know, I was gonna come out and give you 110%, uh, every single game. So, uh, you know, that's a, uh, that's a head scratcher for me. I wish I had a better answer, but I don't.


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[Assistant] I stayed out there, I think Bernie stayed out there, Kevin Mack, uh, who else was around there? I want to say Wester Slaughter. He was, yeaah, he was


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[Assistant] That's one of the things that, uh, you know, Dicker came up with and it, it worked out for him.


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[Assistant] One big guy to another, you know what that did for us? What was that? Huh? It brought sexy back to big people.


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[Assistant] And you know what, you know what's so amazing when we go and do autograph of signings? It's like 1985 never stopped for him.


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[Assistant] I'm not gonna forget you guys, when I remember a Leroy story, I'll call you guys up and let you know. Alright.


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[Assistant] I did pretty good yesterday, yeaah. Our UCSS same game parlay did not hit. What missed? Three of the five.


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[Assistant] Which obviously counts. The under would have definitely hit. Parties under passing yards would have hit.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, so, and then we didn't, Purdy went over his passing yards, but he needed the extra period to do so. Yeaah. Uh, Pacheco didn't hit his rushing yards, and Kelsey never scored a touchdown.


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[Assistant] She's not- Reba Rackintyre wasn't singing live yesterday. She's lip syncing. Are you serious? Look it up.


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[Assistant] But yeaah, uh, other than that, we're talking a little Cavs today. We're gonna talk a little Ohio State. We're gonna bring the Browns into the Super Bowl discussion. How close is Cleveland to the Chiefs level, and can the foundation that Kevin Stafanski and Andrew Barry are building in Cleveland become?


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[Assistant] 10-part same-game parlay on the Super Bowl yesterday turned 5 bucks into 55 bucks. So 11 to 1 odds on some alternate spreads, but shout out to Butters. A 10-part same-game parlay. I found out Butters' name is Brandon.


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[Assistant] We met him in person a couple times. He came to the card show when we were out there. He came in, he brought us the Kool-Aid that we made.


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[Assistant] Well, James just calls me when we have a guest upstairs and says, I got a guest coming. So it, it worked out, but shout out Brandon slash Butters. Uh, congrats on the win. If you have a winning ticket, make sure you send it to us on Twitter or via email. Let's start with the big question from the Super Bowl though. Yesterday, guys, it went to overtime.


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[Assistant] I'll start with this. Did you know the NFL had changed the overtime rules because...


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[Assistant] Hand up my bed. I did not know the overtime rules were changed. I also did not know...


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[Assistant] I feel like it's a whole different situation for some San Francisco 49ers players who after the game admitted they were unaware of this new NFL.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that's what I wanted to ask. So, Shanahan in overtime decided to take the ball first. Yeaah, I would have done it.


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[Assistant] Without the context at the moment, it was all kind of confusing. Was that the right move? Was it not?


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[Assistant] ESPN ran a simulation that says about 50-50, but did you think, and obviously hindsight's 50-50, we all know the outcome, but,


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[Assistant] Knowing the new overtime rules as we do now, if you had to score a touchdown, Kansas City had a chance to match it. Do you still think if the Browns are ever in that scenario, would you want the ball first, second? What would you do if you were Kyle Sheahan? That's it.


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[Assistant] Well, they usually tell, and who knows what happened last night, but there's usually a decision made by the coaching staff to tell the captain, if you win the toss, what are you gonna do? Like, I don't think that's Fred Warner making that decision for the San Francisco 49ers. That's a decision beforehand.


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[Assistant] Jay, let me ask you this. Yeah. And I mentioned this to Earl pre-show and Gee, I mentioned to you too. I think in hindsight, obviously it's the wrong move. In the moment when they missed the third and four in overtime, they ended up kicking the field goal. Jake Moody makes it. I think that's the right play on paper.


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[Assistant] If I'm Shanahan, I would have went for it. I know it's crazy, but as soon as my homies got the ball and they showed every time they showed McAfee on the bench after they kicked the field goal, he was already crying because he knew what the inevitable was going to happen.


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[Assistant] No, I'm not kidding. No, I, I know what you're saying. They were up three in the Superbowl in overtime. McCaffrey's crying on the sideline because Patrick Mahomes has the ball. I don't like, I know it's the wrong play or the wrong move from a coach. It's third and four. You just got blown up. But Mike, I think Mahomes on the side that you have to go. Here's the problem.


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[Assistant] They said it was a shoulder. George Kittle's played through every injury in the book. They said Kittle is in the locker room with a shoulder. I thought that was an equipment thing. Kittle's toughness is something.


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[Assistant] It is crazy. Guys, we'll talk Cavs in one sec, but we're gonna go back to the Browns here before we move on. A quick word from FanDuel. Get buckets with your first bet on FanDuel. America's number one sportsbook right now. New customers get $150 in bonus bets with any winning $5 bet. That's $150 if your team wins.


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[Assistant] After watching the entire playoffs, after seeing the entire 2023s in totality, I'll ask you guys a simple question. How close are the Browns to the level of the Kansas City Chiefs?


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[Assistant] Either way would be a lot of fun. Spent the first hour!


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[Assistant] It does. One note will go to the CAS, but Andy Reid speaking to reporters just said, and this is two minutes ago, had they won the coin toss, they would have kicked. So they wanted the ball second regardless. So they got what they wanted.


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[Assistant] He had, and they said that the chiefs were prepared and ready to go for two if that happened. So the chiefs would have gone for two, had it played out like that. Yeah. So would have been, would have been, I mean, and you know what?


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[Assistant] Which led to Michael Hardman getting open. All right, let's talk a little Cavs guys. Over the last 18 games, Cleveland is 17 and one. And we've talked about the hot streak. We've talked about what they've done, but.


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[Assistant] I was doing some digging and I found this stat from dorksports, which is, it sounds like a joke Twitter handle. It's a very legit, they do awesome work.


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[Assistant] In this 18 game stretch for the Cavs, they have been outscoring their opponents by 303 points in totality. 18 games, 303 points.


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[Assistant] It's only happened five other times in NBA history since dorksports has been tracking. The Bucks have done it twice in 1971-72 season, that's when they had Kareem.


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[Assistant] In 2020 and 2021, that was Giannis' MVP when they blew out everybody in the regular season. How about the 72-win Bulls? The first year of the Steph KD Warriors?


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[Assistant] Done or not, those are five of the greatest teams in the history of the NBA. Kawhi and Duncan. Take that, take it back up, Ant.


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[Assistant] Stephen K. DeVore is the first year. They won a championship for sure. 72 Bulls won for sure.


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[Assistant] I'll pull that up in one sec. Okay. And then the bucks in 2021, 20. I'm just trying to figure out is this some sort of indicator for the five, according to dorksports for the five and one championships.


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[Assistant] 303 in 18 games is a feat that is very rarely accomplished.


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[Assistant] That's not just beating teams on a nightly basis, that's beating the living crap out of teams. And not all those teams are 17-1.


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[Assistant] Their one loss was two Milwaukee. They ended up beating them twice in that stretch.


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[Assistant] It is not only one of the best stretches in NBA history, it's the best stretch in Cavs history. And you can take 180 for me real quick. Of any stretch in 18 game history for the Cavs, their best 18 game plus minus was 293. That was during the, uh, Thorx Sports. This is all from Thorx Sports, so shout out Thorx Sports.


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[Assistant] Do you think the Cavs, so the question is essentially, are the Cavs getting enough credit for how good they've been over this 18-game stretch? It's the regular season, it doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna be playing like it's the post-season. This doesn't guarantee a championship by any means, but-


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[Assistant] Exactly, are we giving enough credit to the Cavs for how damn good they've been since the middle of December?


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[Assistant] This poll that Tagboard refuses to show the results, but this is the poll that G put up. There is actual results to this poll, which G will read you, but this was the tweet he put with the options yes or no.


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[Assistant] No, he's working his way back. Uh, you know, if you want, to Earl's point of matchups in the playoffs, like,


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[Assistant] He's not forcing the action when he comes in now. He's trying to fit into the system and granted, this is something he hasn't played in yet. He missed when they kind of made that initial transition. He was still recovering from injury. So for him, it's new. He's kind of working his way back into it. And it's even more difficult for him because he's at being asked to change his role in a new system that other players are already used to.


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[Assistant] Or at least a little more accustomed to because they've had more time. And so I'm not too worried. The last few games have been more promising and you saw his assist numbers go up. But Toronto was his best game. The plus 19.


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[Assistant] Uh, is one stack that kind of shows, all right, maybe some things kind of worked out, but plus minus is a weird.


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[Assistant] That doesn't tell everything. So one, you know, Dean Wade didn't make a shot was a plus 20 against Toronto and it's just kind of.


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[Assistant] Also circumstantial, but I'm not throwing the red flag up yet. I'm not really worried.


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[Assistant] If they win 60 games, G, that means the rest of the season they can only lose 4 games. Yea, that ain't happening. So, for them to go 60 right now, they are 35 and 16. They'd have to go 25 and 4 to end the season. Yea, that won't happen.


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[Assistant] The schedule helps, obviously, but they've been playing really good basketball. They're number one in net rating, they're number three in offense, they're number one in defense.


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[Assistant] I can't do that math off the top of my head. But, uh, I'll say this and we'll move on in a sec. Two things that are different about the Cavs this year than last year. One, they don't just have one way to win. Last year, if Donovan Mitchell had an off offensive game, they struggled to score 105 points. They're doing defensively this year. They can beat you defensively. They can beat you offensively more versatile. Secondly,


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[Assistant] Most cases, there's been a few blifts, they're not playing with their food. They're beating the crap out of bad teams. That's part of the plus 303. The average margin of victory, they have 6 games in this 17 out of 18 where they haven't trailed by a single point. They're not just winning, they're crushing bad teams.


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[Assistant] Are they buying it? They're kinda similar to you guys. They're really good, but until they win a playoff series, it's all sham. Not a sham, but it's all, they gotta prove it before I'm fully bought in. Okay. Which I think is fair. I think it's fair.


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[Assistant] You can admit they're really good and still admit, and still acknowledge, not admit, acknowledge. They have to prove it in the playoffs before you can fully bind to them as a legit contender.


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[Assistant] We'll do this one quickly guys because we have two topics to get to and we got a bunch of super chats. So real quick, five minutes. The Ohio State Buckeyes lost Bill O'Brien to Boston College, replaced him with Chip Kelly as their new offensive coordinator.


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[Assistant] How do you think the fit between Chip Kelly, all the talent in Columbus and Ryan Day will go for the Buckeyes in 2024.


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[Assistant] Fandual, an official partner of the NBA. Got four super chats for you guys today. Two from our guy, Spoonie Images, who said so much for the Chiefs having a down year, right? And Spoonie also said, I had a dream just before the game.


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[Assistant] Took a quick nap. The Chiefs won Taylor Swift, caught a long pass from Mahomes. True story. Zach Huffman said Mahomes is not the GOAT. How quickly we forget about Tom Brady. To be honest, I blame Josh Allen for the Chiefs being in this game. And Brody's bottom line says Anthony Edwards is the best player on Minnesota. I agree Brody, he is the best player.


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[Assistant] On the Timberwolves. Last week we got the report from the Northeast transportation blog that Jimmy Haslam bought land out by the airport as a potential spot for the Browns to move. And our friend Mike Polk did a little story on it. So let's listen to Mike Polk and then we'll talk about the potential of the Brook Park Browns.


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[Assistant] Of course he's throwing a farewell tour. Yes! Yes! He wants... LeBron loves to be loved. And he would not mind...


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[Assistant] 29 different franchises and cities showing him how much they appreciate what he's done for the game. There will be a farewell tour, yes.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's, it's real early out here, like they're, it's still in workout mode, pitchers are throwing bullpens, uhm, they're,


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[Assistant] They don't play games until I think this weekend is the first spring training game. So it's very early, but it's, we talked to people who have been part of the organization for years. There is a different vibe out here just because everything is new. It's not just Steven. It's a new bench coach. It's new.


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[Assistant] Everybody is mentioning Carl is someone that they're really relying on. You know, Carl's 61, 63 years old, something like that. His first year as pitching coach here with Cleveland, the first time around. Stephen Vogt was a senior in high school.


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[Assistant] So that just puts into perspective how long Carl's been doing this and how long he's been around. So, you know, Carl carries a lot of weight around here and carries a very large voice and is relied on in terms of how to put this thing together.


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[Assistant] Uh, but, but, uh, it's, it's just a different vibe. It's, it's, it's young. It's definitely younger.


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[Assistant] More energy involved and I mean now they gotta go out and compete and obviously they gotta perform well and win.


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[Assistant] But people are very much reinvigorated around here and it's, I mean, there's nothing against Tito, obviously he's a legend, but you know, after a while it just, it just becomes routine and it becomes the same thing over and over and over again. And so it's, it's an organization that probably needed an infusion of some new life and some new blood.


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[Assistant] It's so hard to say, and to the point you're referencing about, you know, some of the comments that Chris made a few days ago on, they gotta give the chance for the young guys to play.


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[Assistant] Well, they said that two years ago and it worked out to their favor and that's when.


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[Assistant] You know, they had to get, they had to get a look at Stephen Kwan and they had to get a look at


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[Assistant] Uh, so these other younger players and see if they could help them. Andris Samanas being another one. And see if they were part of the future here.


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[Assistant] And it worked to their advantage and then last year they tried to get aggressive. They went into free agency and it blew up on them with.


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[Assistant] That was Zenino and Josh Bell. So now here they are pivoting back to, we got a bunch of young guys to play. The difference this time around.


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[Assistant] Maybe I'm, maybe I'm, I'm wrong, but you know, when you look at Estevan Florio, when, I mean, Ramon Laureano is not a young guy by any means. Will Brennan probably is a fourth outfielder at best. I know Mike loves him, but it's probably his role is, is a, it's a fourth outfielder. So I don't know.


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[Assistant] That you can make the same argument that you did two years ago.


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[Assistant] Now there are some other guys, if George Valera can ever get healthy and come up, you know, he's a name.


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[Assistant] Uh, that's been on prospect list for years. Kyle Manzardo will be here eventually, I think, as a first baseman DH type. I don't think it'll be right away. They'll probably start the year with him in the minors and bring him up.


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[Assistant] Around late April, early May, if I had to guess. Uh, but it just, I-


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[Assistant] It is discouraging. I got a lot of thoughts on this. I haven't written about it yet. There's a lot I want to write on this.


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[Assistant] And I could probably talk a little bit more freely about it after I write about it. But, uh, yeah, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth and it feels like a lot of the teams this year could have done more and didn't.


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[Assistant] Well, it's really interesting you ask that because I'm actually working on a piece now, uhm, on the decline in switch hitters.


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[Assistant] In baseball, and it'll probably run in a few days, but this is the lowest number of switch hitters in baseball in 50 years. And if you look at American born players, it's the lowest number in 60 years.


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[Assistant] And, and he's a different generation obviously. And he said that this is a generation that has lost the ability to hit.


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[Assistant] Because everyone is just trying to hit the ball out of the park and they change the way that they teach.


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[Assistant] How to hit. And it's all about launch angle and it's all about hitting the ball out of the park. And if, you know, one of the most popular hitting instructors on YouTube,


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[Assistant] Is, uh, a guy called Teacher Man who taught Aaron Judge how to hit.


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[Assistant] And, and I'm like really into this now, right? Because I got a 13 year old who's coming into this.


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[Assistant] And, and taking baseball very seriously, so he's, you know, he's...


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[Assistant] You know, Teacher Man did not teach Aaron Judge how to hit. Aaron Judge taught Aaron Judge how to hit. Aaron Judge had more to do with it than anybody else. But they teach this style now of snap your wrist and fly back and just hit up.