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[Assistant] Uhm, Jim Schwartz and the Miles Garrett type defensive lines would be so mitigated. They'd be so apprehensive because they're not allowed to touch anybody. Be careful. They gotta think. They gotta think. One of the great things...


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[Assistant] Right, but here's what's sweet in the NFL this year. Not just us. Scoring is at one of the all-time lows this season in the last two years and it's I believe 100% because the league is letting them play some. There's some hits going on in the quarterback that don't get called.


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[Assistant] Oh god, yes, and then here's a hidden thing that happens in the NFL in December in playoff time. Uhm, even in a few years ago, when it was, you weren't allowed to touch anybody and everything was a penalty, a defensive holding, a pass interference, a hit in the quarterback, uhm,


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[Assistant] I was so, I'm so optimistic. I thought we should have beat the Dolphins and that we'd have played in the AFC Championship game in 1985 against the New England Patriots. We had already, in the first game I ever played, we had beaten them at home and I wanted to be that quarterback.


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[Assistant] That yes, there's a motivation from a personal side for that, but just from a football side of it, that, and I love the Buddy Ryan, 46, bare defense, the versions of that, people say the games change.


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[Assistant] They're still doing, defenses are still doing versions of that today. By that eight man front, guy in the middle of, uh, guy at the line of scrimmage, the strong safety press and the tight end against the great Dan Marino.


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[Assistant] They threw quick slants all day. Yea, they cracked the code with it. Yea, they cracked the code to kind of give you the, and Coach Shula did an amazing job with it.


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[Assistant] If you said, I want to have three tight ends on your roster and a fullback, you were looked at as the anti-Christ. I was going to die putting a team together. And now the 6-6 tight end, I don't know how you can live without them. I can't play without a tight end.


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[Assistant] That's a great point, Didi. That pass rush and that pass rush and the Jim Schwartz wide nine does not want to have that wet slippery nor frozen field as we trend towards the end of the season because that's stifling. It's stifling.


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[Assistant] And to Dee Dee's point on the receivers and stuff, one of the guys we haven't talked about who's come back healthy, missed a training camp, I love him, is Marquise Goodwin.


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[Assistant] As a person, and, and he's, in the few snaps he's got, he's gotten open a few times deep. And I think he's starting to get his health back and, and getting into, getting into his game. That could be somebody who...


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[Assistant] Wow, thanks. You know what? I tell younger players and that it's, we could be busy, but meeting kids and, and not trying to sign autographs and be nice. Most interactions are 10 to 15 seconds. Meeting kids like that and making sure you, you don't want to be the guy that left and did not sign one or two kids autographs.


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[Assistant] From that, and that got a little wordy, so I really believe, I evolved my, uh, my audibles into like eye contact and stuff, so you could actually do audibles.


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[Assistant] Without talking, and we would have plays like that. Just like, like, uhm.


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[Assistant] For the bad coaches who would show you your signals, four, three, undercover, two, I would have simple, uh, signals that I would talk to the guys with to shorten a call. So I would talk to Webster, not with words, but with, with, uh, hand signals. Incredible.


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[Assistant] Well, you run about 65 plays you would have. I would go in 80 to 100 plays. But it was imperative that you were able to actually manipulate the other team. So I would tell guys on the other team what the play was. You know, they just don't believe you.


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[Assistant] That is so great. That's good mind games right there. Oh, the mental, the mental aspect of it really is in play. Oh, there's no doubt. With DBs, you would tell them. You would tell them the plays. I've heard that so too.


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[Assistant] That's 150 bucks if your team wins. If you've been thinking about joining FanDuel, there's no better time. The app is super easy to use. There's a wide range of betting options including spreads, player props, over-unders, and more. So you guys can visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS to kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, the official partner of the NFL.


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[Assistant] Coolant stuffs in the back is what Steve tells me. Alright, well then we'll skip the coolant, I'll just throw some proverbial coolant around.


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[Assistant] Alright, well we're going to you next. Yeaah. For our Kool-Aid meter, you have Carl Lawson.


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[Assistant] I don't think so, because they still think Deshaun Watson has a short term injury.


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[Assistant] I'd be really happy with Derek Henry, but I don't think it's gonna happen. Yeah, I don't think Tennessee's trading Derek Henry.


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[Assistant] Go ahead. Well actually, instead of doing a fan duel readout right now, today is actually the first anniversary of us launching membership, so I wanted to bring that up. Yes it is! We're gonna be talking about you guys and giving you guys shoutouts here at the end of the show.


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[Assistant] Big announcement, huge announcement, especially if you're an avid behind the glass watcher. Earl and I officially have emojis today. Go in and check out the Earl and I emoji. We thank you guys for so much for the year of memberships. It's fantastic. We wouldn't be here without everybody else. They've made it. We officially


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[Assistant] Uh, I completely forgot to put them on a graphic this morning. That is a bad job out of me, guys. I'm so sorry about that.


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[Assistant] You guys can go visit FanDuel.com slash UCSS and kick off the NFL season right. FanDuel, the official partner of the NFL.


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[Assistant] And whenever you're ready. Yea, we can take the first one here, Steve. Our first one up is Kareem Hunt, Pierre Strong, and Jorm- He's a running back.


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[Assistant] I'm pretty sure he texted us last night about the costumes.


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[Assistant] G was very much arguing last night that he did not want to dress up.


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[Assistant] They're killing it. I look great today. I got a couple super chats about the costumes at the end of the show.


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[Assistant] Alright, what do we got? We got a lot of super chats today, a lot commenting on your guys' costumes. Let's go. First up, Preston Herring.


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[Assistant] Bull looks like Aunt Susan, which might be a reference I don't actually get.


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[Assistant] You might. Thanks for your super chat, Preston. Uh, next up we have Gerald Jack. No G Bush again. I'm out. Gerald, we hope to see you tomorrow. Donnie Stork says,


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[Assistant] Alright, next up from Donnie, come on guys, do you really think Watson will last a full game against Baltimore or Pittsburgh? They play hurt if you, uh, they play to hurt if they can. No.


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[Assistant] Next up we got Reeve. Bull looks like my uncle from Pennsylvania, so you look like all the aunts and uncles today.


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[Assistant] Michael says I'd trade Kevin for Freddy Kitchens. That's a, that's a, that's out of pocket.


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[Assistant] Alright, so from simple, I know these guys are professionals, but how much do you guys think Chikobi thinks and wants to come back? Also, could we get him and Henry or Barclay?


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[Assistant] Next. Next. Alright, next up we have Eric Barner. Bring back Jacoby Percet QB Sneaks. Yup.


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[Assistant] So let's see, Skilly, up next. Draft, draft need order. Quarterback, wide receiver, then running back.


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[Assistant] Kellen Hunter. Ann Arnold Colvin? Photo?


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[Assistant] Before we get into any real football topics, we're not going to spend any time on caps.


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[Assistant] Are you excited about the cast? Yeaah. I would have been if I could see the game. But Bally's, once again, screwed us over. It is the single worst app I've ever had to experience and deal with on a daily basis. And the fact that we're in the year 2023.


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[Assistant] You can't watch Cavs games on League Pass. I know, so it doesn't even circumvent the issue of... Right, same thing with Sunday ticket. And Sunday ticket, and this MLB, the MLB ticket, does that allow you to watch every game, even your hometown team? Uh, no. I don't know.


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[Assistant] It's crazy, I said on Tuesday. Yeah. When's the last time that on Tuesday of a game week, neither team's announced a starting quarterback?


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[Assistant] And now it's Thursday, and neither team's announcing a starting quarterback. And I'm going to suspect this goes until Friday at a minimum. Yeah, the Browns.


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[Assistant] So I've gone back and forth on this a couple of times, and Bernie Kozar, who sat in a chair right next to us, if there was a fourth chair, came on this show and said I had the same injury,


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[Assistant] And to Sean, until he gets a full offseason, to not throw, not move.


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[Assistant] Surgery or not to heal is going to be dealing with this injury from when it happened.


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[Assistant] To the season's end. It's not just gonna magically heal in week 12 or 13, regardless of how many weeks he takes off. And the question Anthony asked is, should he start? If he's capable of playing and is healthy enough to play. And I've gone back and forth on this a lot, and I texted in the group chat, even yesterday, I'd wait for Baltimore. Like they don't need him against Arizona. And then I thought about it. And Bull, you taught me something on this show. That if you're wrong,


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[Assistant] It's okay to change your opinion. And I think I was wrong. And I actually think now, if Deshaun Watson's capable of playing against Arizona, I think he needs to play. And here's why. When Deshaun got hurt, he compared his injury to a baseball injury.


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[Assistant] Pitchers get that injury. This is more of a baseball injury that pitchers suffer than a quarterback injury. And that's more of the prototype to look at in terms of healing recovery. Well, if it happened to Mackenzie or Beaver.


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[Assistant] Before pitching for the guardians again, they go double A or triple A and have kind of a triple A rehab start.


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[Assistant] To figure out how best to play and pitch through said injury. Arizona's defense ranks 30th against the pass. 29th in the EPA per drop back. And next week you've got Baltimore as the number one overall defense in football.


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[Assistant] I would almost look at Arizona as a quote unquote AAA start for Deshaun Watson. Granted.


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[Assistant] There's no easy games in the NFL. They're not a AAA team. It's not apples to apples.


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[Assistant] But even if it's not the full game, even if it's a quarter, or a quarter and a half, I think the Sean Watson has to get out there.


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[Assistant] See what he can do with his shoulder to get you a real evaluation because I refuse to believe anything I see in practice. Whether it's a Mary Kay video, a Hayden Grove video,


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[Assistant] Anyone who's putting videos out there in practice. I need to see game refs to believe anything.


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[Assistant] Was he making progress before Indiana- Indianapolis, and then gets hurt and then is a step back?


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[Assistant] And we don't have an answer to that, and we won't know, and my guess is, that didn't have a setback, it just, he wasn't ready.


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[Assistant] And we saw, and this is not a Deshaun knock, this is a quarterback across the league knock. He was rusty last year against Houston after missing a year and a half from football. He was rusty against Cincinnati in week one despite having an entire off season with the team.


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[Assistant] I'm just saying, but it's like he stepped in and was right away being good. We see him against Indianapolis, clearly hurt, but not himself. Joe Burrow missed all of training camp, comes in week one, yeah, bad weather, but he doesn't look the same since frankly last week. So I think quarterbacks naturally when they miss time, it's the hardest position in sports for a reason. It's very difficult to step up.


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[Assistant] It's not easy for anybody. For even my home, so we haven't seen necessarily missed a significant amount of time and come back.


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[Assistant] It's just tough. And now from this week to when he got hurt against Tennessee.


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[Assistant] Will be seven weeks, potentially, or Baltimore will be seven weeks.


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[Assistant] It's a long time to not play football, come back in and be right back to where we expect you to be against Tennessee when you're facing the number one defense in the NFL in Baltimore. That seems like a recipe for disaster, which is why I flip flopped literally in less than 24 hours from saying wrestling to Baltimore too. I need to see him get some game reps against Arizona to at least have some sort of gauge of where we're truly at.


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[Assistant] Tyvis said yesterday, this is the only thing I could think of as even a possibility, and I disagree with this, but he said the players in the locker room must truly believe in PJ Walker, and be behind him fully, that at this point if you were to take him out and put DTR in despite the fact Walker, statistically has been the worst quarterback in football when he's played.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't agree with it, I was just trying to rationalize what it could be, but.


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[Assistant] Bull, you watched the videos yesterday of the Sean Watson throwing.


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[Assistant] You know, throwing the ball at 100%. If he's just, you know, lobbing it in, you know, you go through warm-up drills, gee, you've done this in football, I did it in basketball, gee, even in bowling and baseball with your kid. Like, when you're warming up with Aaron, he's not ripping it 100 miles an hour from the first pitch. It's just warming up. You just, you don't know what he's trying to do.


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[Assistant] Gee, how many times in a game does a quarterback actually drop back and throw at the proper mechanics, as opposed to dropping his arm trying to get around the pass rusher?


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[Assistant] Right. If he has to, you know, come down a three-quarter throw or a sidearm, and we were going through the all 22 before you got in here, Jim. We're watching some of PJ Walker's throws.


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[Assistant] We only got to the first half, but he maybe threw five normal passes and 10 to 15 on the move on the side and more of a baseball thing and that could re-aggravate the shoulder in a way that's not coming from the top.


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[Assistant] In week 17, or it could happen this week against Arizona. Like that doesn't matter, his shoulder. And we keep talking about, it may still be hurt. And he's definitely still injured. I still think Deshaun Watson could go out there and if he does play, play well. Like until I see him not be able to throw the ball again.


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[Assistant] I'm on a week by week basis now with Deshaun because I do think that this injury, he said initially it's a two to six week time frame.


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[Assistant] This is six weeks. This is the back end of that. Indy was in the middle. So maybe, and maybe it's just me basing off injuries I've sustained playing basketball my life.


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[Assistant] You know, by the end of the time, like typically you do feel a lot better than you do in the middle of the rehab process. So until I see this, Sean Watson, not be able to throw again.


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[Assistant] Put back to back really good games together. We saw a good game against Tennessee.


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[Assistant] Well, and also G, we saw last week, and PJ Walker had the crucial turnover at the end, and he had three turns, and I'm not saying he played well, but he got all the reps on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and it was the best of his three performances.


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[Assistant] And now we're back to a situation where because Dashawn's up in the air, and we hope Dashawn plays,


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[Assistant] We could be going into Sunday's game with one day of P.J. Walker as quarterback with all the reps if Deshaun doesn't get pulled out today.


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[Assistant] Who they playing next week? I don't even know. If we were switching shoes here and Deshaun said, I'm a hundred percent healthy. I want to play. Put me in coach.


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[Assistant] And if Deshawn said that, and even if it was, Deshawn would play, so that's why I think there's a chance. If I'm Arizona, I'd rather, just like you said, wait and err on the side of caution and say, I don't even know who we have next week, but it's not Myles Garrett. But if I'm in their shoes and Kyler says, hey Coach Gannon, you're a rookie, I just got a massive contract, I'm healthy, I'm playing, I don't think Gannon has any choice.


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[Assistant] Pierre Strong had his kind of breakout game for the Browns this past weekend against Seattle and we had this discussion all week and I'm curious what you think. Is he the best healthy running back in the Browns right now?


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[Assistant] Well, Leroy, what does that do though for the rest of the team potentially showing up to a game on Sunday and you don't know if Deshawn's gonna start, PJ's gonna start, you haven't got the reps in practice. We saw it against Baltimore the first time with DTR and that did not go well, so is that a big concern that maybe we're all taking into account for?


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[Assistant] I'm just painting the big picture. This is not the only quarterback situation that's had some topsy-turvy roads this year. The Giants.


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[Assistant] One from Danny Dimes to Tyra Taylor to now Tommy DeVito. That's been a whole catastrophe. But I'm just saying.


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[Assistant] But my point is, it's not the only team who's played multiple quarterbacks this year, but this is the only one where we've questioned, at least to my knowledge.


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[Assistant] I don't know specifics, but I know that Tom Palacero and Adam Scheffler both tweeted out, it's a real injury. Four weeks in. Yeah, which is weird. And when a national reporter of that stature has to tweet out, real injury.


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[Assistant] Just real quick so we can fill in everybody. Uh, Dashawn admitted he quote, jumped the gun by deciding he was ready to play against the Colts. And is now- Oh, wow.


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[Assistant] Saying he must listen to the experts until he's technically ready to play.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and we'll definitely talk about that a little more in depth tomorrow. I want to actually hear the quote in exactly all his words as opposed to just seeing it. Uh, Zach Jackson tweeted out that, I'll pull it up again, that he's taking it day by day essentially.


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[Assistant] Watson, of course I want to play, but as long as we're on the same page as an organization, I'm willing to do whatever is best for this team.


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[Assistant] It's a step by step, day by day process. He says he feels on track throwing was part of the process, but not an indication. He will actually play on Sunday. He's just listened to the medical staff going day by day and doing whatever they ask and require of him to do to get back on the field. Uh, the big thing was he admitted he.


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[Assistant] Jump the gun, and those were his words by playing against the cults.


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[Assistant] We'll psychoanalyze that comment more, where we can actually listen to it, as opposed to just reading a little book. So tomorrow we'll definitely do a deep dive into that.


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[Assistant] And hopefully we get an answer to who will be starting at some point this afternoon. That's the goal. And let's do a little fence rider. Alright Anthony, go ahead.


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[Assistant] We'll move this, move this pretty quickly. We all agree. They forced four turnovers against Andy. They forced two against Seattle and there's a chance they're going up against a rookie quarterback making his first start on the road against this defense.


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[Assistant] It's hard to predict turnovers, but in the last two weeks they've been very good in that category. If you're telling me Clayton Toon's a quarterback, I like my chances.


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[Assistant] Well that's even like, on the contrary, Sean's game against Tennessee was very good.


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[Assistant] I'm not fully committed to this theory but it's a working theory. I think the Brown's front office has an issue admitting their mistakes. I do.


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[Assistant] And to prove that trading DPJ and not bringing anything else back.


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[Assistant] Was the right idea. They're going to force feed the ball to Cedric Kilmer. He's going to have four targets and two catches on Sunday. And if a third pass from PJ Walker was on target, he'd have three catches. They may only go for four yards. They may be behind line of scrimmage. He's going to run five rounds.


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[Assistant] Everything you guys said is true and right? Yeaah. Is that you're telling me there's still been two catches this week?


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[Assistant] You gotta stand on that, man. You gotta stand on that. I am almost certain enough to the point where I'm gonna put a whale batting on his overcatchers.


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[Assistant] Despite the fact I think they should go into this game plan, with Watson and Dor PJ Walker, run heavy, because Arizona's not great against a run.


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[Assistant] They're even worse against the pass. And Stefanski, for better or worse, likes to have a very even 50-50 run-split, uh, run-pass-split balance. So, they had 40 carries last week, which is a lot. They got 155 yards. They didn't have 165 last week in Seattle. Yeaah, but Arizona's way worse.


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[Assistant] G, you wanna read my notes number six here? You wanna read? Read note number six. This is the fence rider question. Alright.


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[Assistant] They scored a late garbage time touchdown last week against Baltimore.


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[Assistant] Because I gave it a 9 out of 10 for that exact reason. Maybe he knows they tried and...


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[Assistant] If you try and you don't succeed, well at least you know you tried, but he said on Monday.


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[Assistant] We can't deal with turnovers. I cannot have my quarterback turn the ball over. Right. And what does PJ Walker do better than literally anyone else in the league right now?


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[Assistant] He turns the ball over, which is the worst thing you can do as a quarterback. So I went with a 9 out of 10 because I do think he's frustrated they did not bring someone in, but I gave him that 1 out of 10 little sliver for the fact that maybe he knows they did try and it just wasn't possible. But I'm calling BS, there's no way he's happy they didn't make it.


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[Assistant] I give it a 1 out of 10 because I don't fully believe anything a coach says. If he told me his name was Kevin Stefanski, I'd be like, that's probably a little fishy suspicious.


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[Assistant] Like I believe what he's saying. I only gave it a one because I'm always skeptical at a press conference setting, but I have no reason not to believe that.


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[Assistant] I give this one a 7 out of 10. And here's why, BS on it. If Deshawn came out yesterday,


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[Assistant] Was, with visible zip on his passes. He looked great. No pain. He felt awesome. And said, hey coach, I'm playing. Then the decisions made.


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[Assistant] It's not a decision, it's a fact that Deshaun Watson would play. Now granted, we heard from Deshaun earlier in the show. Since then, since I sent that in, got some new information which clearly wasn't the case.


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[Assistant] The quote was, he was not ready to make any game day decisions yet. And I believe that if Deshaun looked great, he would have made a game day decision. Deshaun's my quarterback. He's starting.


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[Assistant] Point blank period. So I called BS on it because it depen- it was all dependent on how the dog looked. And he said that before they practiced, so.


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[Assistant] I'm just calling it, someone's a little fishy, if it looked a certain way, he could have made a decision. Yeaah. But I didn't expect him to.


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[Assistant] I don't know what he's doing, but the Jets general manager Joe Douglas said we fully expect Aaron Rodgers to be back this season.


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[Assistant] Which may or may not happen, who knows, but that would defy every medical timeline that humanity has ever seen. And if he's, whatever drugs or medicine or platelets or whatever he's doing, if it works, everyone has to start doing it.


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[Assistant] I think it's impossible. I'm just saying, their GM now is said to the public at a press conference.


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[Assistant] Which sets the weird precedent, which we came back to earlier with Kevin Stefanski. He's gonna play, Andrew Barry says he's gonna play for San Francisco.


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[Assistant] And this is the second time in three weeks now the Browns have played a former Eagles coordinator, so.


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[Assistant] Unique as a head coach and what your Browns fans be ready for on the opposing sideline come Sunday.


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[Assistant] No, you're good. Do you think we'll have an announcement necessarily from either side by Friday? Or is this going to be a game time decision for both teams?


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[Assistant] That's a good point. The Browns traded DPJ to Detroit this week and that means, or at least we hope Cedric Tillman will get a bigger chance to showcase why the Browns drafted him in the third round on Sunday. We had this discussion earlier. GM Bull think he will not have a single catch on Sunday. I seem to think the Browns will make sure they showcase what he can do.


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[Assistant] Thank you to you three and everyone else who's a member of the show. We duly, duly, duly appreciate you guys and we cannot say thank you. The bottom of our hearts enough. What we do is for you. Why can't you send it from the top of your heart? From my entire heart. From our collective hearts.


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[Assistant] We say thank you and seriously, we cannot, uh, we could not appreciate you guys anymore for hanging out with us every day. No matter if it's seven o'clock or behind the glass for the barber shop tonight at seven o'clock show, postgame shows, whatever it is, you guys show up and they've made this the success it is. So I'm serious. And we joke around.


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[Assistant] Uh, Hyper Frosty's gonna chug hot sauce for every win. Oh. And send us a video.


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[Assistant] We do the post game show, and we start during the game, so it's really hard to go to the game.


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[Assistant] Or not yet. Uh, someone DM'd me, I got one person, but it's MLucas2, like the number two, which is funny because my last one, I worked for Tegna in Texas, I was just MLucas, so I'm now the same person, but here, I'm MLucas2, at Tegna.com. Let us know where you're tailgating, we will do our best to come through, see as many of y'all as possible, but tweet at us, email us, it's honestly the best way, email me.


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[Assistant] You sent me a DM, you sent G a DM. And no forward it to me, but I will try to put together a collective.


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[Assistant] We have, we have a camera camera, I'm not sure if we're gonna bring the camera camera, cause that's tougher to maneuver, but phones now are so good. But we have a mic for the phone, we will legitimately record this stuff, uh, it'll be on YouTube, and we're gonna put it on the show on Tuesday or Wednesday, one of those two days. And I'm gonna give out some stuff too. We're gonna give out some stuff. I might have a couple


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[Assistant] That's the face Earl makes when he can't come to Sweet Pork Wilson's.


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[Assistant] I'm Mikey McNuggets and the best individual one-on-one matchup in the entire NFL this weekend is happening right here in Cleveland. We're gonna tell you who's gonna win.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, the first and the biggest one, as you guys mentioned, the future hall of fame left tackle, Trent Williams, the future hall of fame defensive end, Myles Garrett. Gee, in this one on one matchup, who do you give the advantage to?


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[Assistant] Next up, how about Denzel Ward versus Devo Samuel? Jay, start us off on this one.


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[Assistant] Next up, how about the other ward in this matchup? Trevarius Ward, San Francisco's top cornerback against Amari Cooper. Jay, start us off.


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[Assistant] And our last one is not actually a player and player matchup. It's a coach versus coach. It is Kyle Shanahan versus Jim Schwartz. Boy, you want to start us off?


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[Assistant] Love that. Hey, just so you know, if you're looking for a job with career advancement and great benefits, well, PCC Airfoils is the leading manufacturer in Northeast Ohio. All locations of PCC Airfoils in Eastlake, Menor, Wycliffe, and Minerva are hiring for all positions starting at $18 and up. Plus, full benefit packages, paid time off, and a signing bonus. You can apply online at precast.com slash careers to learn more. Jay!


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[Assistant] But I can't see the browns pulling this one out with PJ Walker. I just can't.


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[Assistant] Jay, does the, I'm out of the bowl and does the defense deserve a perfect grade through the quarter poll of the season? I'll tell you in a few minutes.


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[Assistant] Alright, are we putting up my grade here? There we go. The offense gets a C, guys. It's been a big disappointment. It kinda looks like a sideways U. Doesn't that C look like a sideways U? It looks like an eye chart C.


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[Assistant] It's true. Cover your left eye and read it. It looks like an I charge C. I, I was, this one actually took me a while. At first I was gonna go even lower.


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[Assistant] But then I decided to just throw out game four. Uh, fair or not, that's what I did. I took it out of the grading book.


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[Assistant] I just based this on the first three games and I thought the third game was really good and that got me up to a C. But I expected the offense to be at least a B if not higher. So far they've been disappointing.


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[Assistant] But I did in the end come up a little higher than I initially thought was safe.


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[Assistant] Boy, you gave special teams a B. Thank you. I gave him a B. The kicker's been great. Now we gotta see it when the weather gets bad. Cade York was great to start last season too. But the punter also, he's been excellent. You know, he was criticized in the past for his holding. He's an excellent punter. The major downfall, the only reason they don't get an A is cause the punt return stinks. Yeah, I gave him a C.


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[Assistant] Uh, has not done a particularly great job, I think, so far this year. Uh, either on the field or off the field, where he, he helped create a controversy that didn't need to be. Had he not said what he said? Uh, you know, he's gotta be aware of these things, and maybe he pissed off his quarterback, I don't know. But, uhm,


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[Assistant] Let's get some inside information. Deshaun Watson, obviously dealing with a sore shoulder right now. He was unable to play last week. The Browns are of course are on a buy this weekend and next week they hope to have Deshaun Watson back. So let's bring in our guest right now. Mikey McNuggets. Here he is. Doc, how are you? Thank you for joining us.


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[Assistant] We're doing great. We'll be doing better if Deshaun Watson can play.


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[Assistant] Uh, next Sunday, obviously you've been following the situation. We know he's got a sore shoulder, a contusion in the shoulder. It looked like he wasn't going to play, then he said he was going to play, and in the end he couldn't play.


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[Assistant] Based on your knowledge of the situation, obviously you haven't looked at him personally, do you expect the Sean Watson to be back for week 6 against the 49ers after the bye?


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[Assistant] Dr. Morse looks like a long road back for Nick Chubb. We appreciate the time. Thank you for joining us. Thanks, Doc.


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[Assistant] You have to have that quick passing game. Tempo. Flow. Let's get it going. Get the ball out and into the hands of the skill position players. I'd be happy with any and all of those changes.


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[Assistant] There is no grizzly bear. There is no grizzly bear. There is. This is called the Jed Hop. Okay? If we get it up right there, the Jed Hop. You see, most of the players are listed as circles. Jed is the rectangle. Because Jed's just gonna lay down.


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[Assistant] He's going to just lay down on the field and hopefully


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[Assistant] The defensive end will have to jump over him to get to the quarterback or get to the running back. If he has to, they have a better chance of slowing him down by them having to jump over Jen's huge body.


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[Assistant] It's uh, 35 to 40. Alright, see I got the bronze in about, I think, I got every team in the division with somewhere close to a 25%. Exactly where I am. Between 25 and 30. Maybe the Steelers a little lesser. And if the Bengals lose this week, then they'll be way less than that.


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[Assistant] But ultimately I agree with you guys. I would have somewhere between 25 and 30. I would actually have their chances of making the playoffs a little higher too. Maybe like 55%, but I think definitely the most agree. In the end, they're not four times more likely to make the playoffs than win the division. They're obviously more likely to make the playoffs than win the division. But 11's way too low this early in the season.


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[Assistant] You know, that was the problem is that he couldn't really ramp up.


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[Assistant] And, and there's a couple different types of shoulder injuries. This is probably the mildest of all of them, which is ideal.


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[Assistant] But when you have inflammation of the rotator cuff and that's the muscle you use to throw and really do anything with your arms, uh, it becomes painful and frustrating and it's going to impact your accuracy, your velocity and you're just not going to be able to put the ball where you want to and then he's like,


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[Assistant] The severity of the inflammation and if there's any injuries to the tendons or to the labrum or to the ac joint.


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[Assistant] The AC joint is classically injured, often guys land on their shoulder, the top of their shoulder, they bruise or strain, uh, kind of beat up the AC joint ligaments and that kind of stabilizes the top part of your shoulder.


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[Assistant] He reportedly doesn't have any of that. That's what happened to Derek Carr and that's why he didn't look very good. Uh, but it doesn't sound like Deshaun Watson is dealing with that, which is good. Now, the rotator cuff, uh, is a bunch of important


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[Assistant] Those take much longer to heal and sometimes they don't. And that would have been much more detrimental.


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[Assistant] If you have to pick your poison, this would have been, uh, kind of best case scenario given what we know.


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[Assistant] The question was how much of his ACL is damaged, how much of his PCL, of his cartilage, of his meniscus, of the LCL, which is on the other side.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and, and when you have a significant PCL strain or fully tear, you have to re-stabilize the knee before you can reconstruct the ACL. So his real rehab won't start until the ACL is reconstructed.


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[Assistant] Wow, that sounds painful. I mean, you're like a little bit of an alien, basically.


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[Assistant] Have you reached his full potential? I mean, I just don't like...


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[Assistant] At this point we can't complain. He is the, although I guess we could, he's the 8th highest paid ty...


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[Assistant] By the way, here are the seven guys being paid more than David and Joe. Let's hear it. TJ Hawkinson, Darren Waller, George Kittle, Travis Kelsey, Dallas Scottert, Mark Andrews, and Evan Engram. All are clearly better.


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[Assistant] On the Odell thing specifically, I heard that his right knee surgery didn't go well, and when that happened, the right knee showed a video of the left knee getting too much work. And the left knee was getting all the targets, and the right knee was pissed.


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[Assistant] I mean, you maybe call Les Plays for a run, but he's still at times going to run because that's his instinct.


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[Assistant] No, that can't be right. Okay, so according to PFF. 15 times.


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[Assistant] For whatever it's worth, and it's not a huge variance.


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[Assistant] I think we all agree you want him to slide, but you know, in the heat of battle. I get it. You know, he's, I'm never going to criticize the guy for trying to get more yards. He's, yes, he's got to be smart about it. He's got to know the situation. If it's a situation where, hey, this is fourth down, I got to get a first down and the game's over. You got to do what you got to do.


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[Assistant] Watson did hurt the shoulder on a hit in the game. So it was a hit. So it's not arm fatigue.


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[Assistant] Number two, something we, whenever we have conversation about sacks, we, and everybody else is guilty of this too, we always blame the offensive line. When often sacks are on the quarterback. Now, I don't know, PFF I'm sure has it somewhere, I know, uh,


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[Assistant] Last date? Mike, last date? Cause like, I texted, uh, Cleve T.A., who has his own analytics site. You know him. I didn't know he had his analytics. He has his own site. And I said, I said, uh, how much is Watson to blame for his sacks? And he just gave me a quick answer. He said, uh, there's,


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[Assistant] Watson is usually pretty high, and this year is no exception. He ranks in the top 10 of quarterback responsibility for sacks.


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[Assistant] You know, talk briefly about it. When, when, when Mike asked the question originally, it was, do they need to make a point of getting David Njoka involved?


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[Assistant] I almost never think that makes sense with any player, let alone a guy like David Njoku. Like, if you have, if you have Tyree Kill or you have a, you know, Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson, an absolute superstar player, super, yeaah, you want to get those guys involved because they're elite talents.


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[Assistant] Mark Cooper is the Browns' best player on offense. The other guys are all in the same boat to me of either unproven or average.


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[Assistant] And so, I'm never gonna make a point. Why would I make a point of getting David Najoku involved over Elijah Moore? Or over Donovan Peoples-Jones? Or anybody else? Now, I think naturally, he would be a target in the red zone, and he really hasn't been this year. He doesn't have any touchdowns through three games. But I'm not gonna force it, guys. That doesn't make any sense.


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[Assistant] But here's the bottom line guys, the reality is, there's not that many tight ends that make a huge impact in terms of catching passes. Which is why the-


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[Assistant] NFL tight end. He's a decent player. We fought with his, the fact that he was drafted in the first round, the fact that he has great athletic ability, and the fact that they paid him at the time a lot of money.


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[Assistant] Right. And it never happened. And he is what he is. He's a decent player. Solid player. Nothing wrong with him. He's a starting tight end. There's certainly not 32 tight ends better than him. I don't even know if there's 10 better than him. I know he's 17th right now in yards. But I don't even think, he's probably somewhere around that 10th best tight end.


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[Assistant] If he were playing soccer in Europe, what would he, like, and he was the equivalent player.


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[Assistant] Is there anything that, you know, in Houston he never had a feature back?


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[Assistant] And I would never say you don't want Nick Chubb because that's insane. And it's one game which makes it even crazier. Is there something to that, that feature back not being there that, that you can connect to his performance? Or is it just a coincidence?


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[Assistant] Who I think are playing great that, you know, number one is J.O.K.


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[Assistant] He looked completely lost. He looked like he had no instincts. Grant Delpit had struggled his time here. At the end of last year, he started to play better, but first three games, he's taken it to another level.


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[Assistant] When you see guys that look kind of lost, and then all of a sudden there's a new coach, and some of it, like, J.O.K. seems like all of a sudden he's got football instincts, but


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[Assistant] Jim Schwartz is a great coach, we all agree. He's put him in a system that's more comfortable. Like, why doesn't every coach do that? Isn't that, shouldn't that be obvious that you should do that? I don't know, like, is it, are there too many coaches that are like, this is my system and you gotta do it my way? I don't understand why anybody would do it, it seems so obvious.


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[Assistant] Tim, we need two predictions. We want your prediction on the Browns Ravens, but also Kentucky Wildcats are 4-0. Now they haven't played anybody yet. You did have your first conference game against Vanderbilt, but you got Florida at home this week and then the big one, obviously Georgia next week on the road. Do they stay undefeated? I think Florida is ranked at the back end of the top 25. Do they stay undefeated? And, uh, what about the Browns?


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[Assistant] I'm curious to see the line change. I wonder if they took it off the board right now.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, that's interesting. Cause that line's gonna change. The Bravens will become favorites in the game. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Well, that's a bummer. Let's hope. I mean, he may be fine. We don't, we don't know. It might just be- It's still fried.


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[Assistant] Percentage chance the Browns win this game with Deshaun Watson. With Deshaun? 60%. I'd say 70. Percentage chance they win with DTR. 15. 25.


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[Assistant] No, the point is that everybody brings up the Bengals Rape, the Bengals Browns history in the last couple of years, and makes it seem like there's something to it, which it may be, or it may be coincidence.


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[Assistant] And yet, I feel like everybody here wants to poo-poo.


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[Assistant] I think you dropped the ball on this one, Mike. I think you needed to have last year's statistics to back up what you have because 16 passes in that situation is not enough from the sample size. I think if it, if it fit last year, if it was the same way last year and then you just backed it up with this year.


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[Assistant] Yes, there's no doubt. He makes panic decisions sometimes under pressure, uh, you know, from watching him over the years. I also think that he, he's more easily


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[Assistant] Head to toe. Again, I don't, I mean, I agree with that. I also would say, and this is, I don't know, this is just, I tested my thoughts about Lamar, is he's a front runner quarterback. I don't like him when you're losing. When you got the lead, he's, he's fantastic. He's not a comfortable high quarterback.


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[Assistant] How does that compare, like, how does the 6 and the 4 compare around the league? You have that? Like, is that a high number? Is that a low number?


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[Assistant] Uh, another, by the way, Brown's line has just gone to minus one.


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[Assistant] The only upside of DTR playing is that the Ravens have no clue what to expect. Neither do we. Well, I'm just saying, I'm looking for something positive. Dang man, that's crazy.


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[Assistant] You and I were arguing for years about Josh Naylor continuing to play. He had a really good year.


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[Assistant] I like that. If the Browns win this game with DTR because of a dominant, you know, outside of the unlikely scenario, DTR plays a great- You gonna elevate them? You elevate them to where? If they beat the Ravens, with the Ravens knowing that the Browns have a rookie making his first starting quarterback and nothing at running back, that would be a miraculous job by the defense.


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[Assistant] They better hold them because the offense is going to struggle. It sucks because Watson just had his best game.


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[Assistant] I love it. You know, we've been together 10 years, so before we even moved here, I've been coming here. Every holiday, every Christmas was here. So I had a, I built a good friend group and, you know, it was a huge sports guy. It's one of the best sports cities, I think, in the country. And I've had great conversations for years with Clevelanders about the team.


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[Assistant] No, it was, and back then that was what, it was May, game two, Knicks Heat, so it was still, it like just happened. It was like two weeks, I don't even think the guy had a place to live yet at that point in New York, so no, I gotta say, we nerded out on basketball.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was like, you know, they just, it was basically Sopranos, Oz, Sex and the City, and then Enter Oz was the next in line. So recency wise, it's definitely Power. And if I had to say too, I think Power just had a bigger fan base overall because when I'm in New York, I'll be on one street and


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[Assistant] I run into a power fan, usually a little younger, and they're just like, entourage, they'll say, oh I love your work, I'm like.


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[Assistant] So look, first of all, love method, man. I grew up in Brooklyn. I used to go to Staten Island Mall just to catch a glimpse of Wu-Tang. I'm like, oh, I heard Wu-Tang's at the mall. Let's go see. You gotta go with Proctor. They've done this vote.


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[Assistant] See, I think, I think, Method Man once said, you know, well Proctor was a rat, right? Because he was caught up in flipping on Tommy, but if you really break it down between Tommy and Ghost, Proctor was just loyal to Ghost at that moment. If he was flipping, it was on Tommy, who put nine bullets in him anyway, so I think he had cause.


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[Assistant] Oh man, we really gotta go back in time. I gotta say, for me, it was always a love of TV and movies. While a lot of my friends growing up, even at 15 years old, were getting into trouble going out to even clubs and doing all that stuff. I just, I was just watching movies and TV shows.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it brought me to another place. I don't know. Maybe I was trying to get a wave in my mind from some things growing up in Brooklyn. But yeah, I just, it was a love of TV and film. I would say I could have easily been a grip or a DP or an editor and been just as happy. That's how much I just love it. I just love it.


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[Assistant] And said move to LA and I'll represent you. And you know, back in 2000, it's like, oh yeah, it's Hollywood talk. And I went and I visited LA and I signed the deal and I told my mother, I'm mom, I'm leaving. She's like, okay, sure.


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[Assistant] That's the hardest thing cause, and I think it even equates to what you guys are doing here. Like so often I get asked, like, what's a good strategy? And that's the hard thing. There is no great strategy. I can't say, hey, if you do this, this, and this,


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[Assistant] And nothing happens. Uh, I did get asked one time though, uh, coming home from a shoot, I ran into this dude on the street and he was like, what's like the easiest way to get into


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[Assistant] I'm like, right there, you made a mistake. You said, what's the easiest way? Yeah, there's no shortcuts. Come on, man. There is no easy way. But man, when I was a kid, you just don't know any better. I would get like a...


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[Assistant] You know, I'm a little sad because I at some point wanted to


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[Assistant] But uh, now I'm looking at coaching roles. That's, I think I'm now graduating into high school coach, stuff like that as I get older and older.


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[Assistant] Kevin Connelly, who played E, called me when I was backstage just now. Oh, that's funny. We were talking about meeting up and playing for some golf out on the west coast, so yeaah. Uh, it's like a family, man. Yeaah. Some guys you talk to more consistently than others, but you know, if I ran into any of them or anyone called me, I would drop, whatever. Those are my brothers at this point, you know?


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[Assistant] I think so, cause if you look at the turtle character, he did not know he was not the best looking dude in the room.


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[Assistant] So there was a few different versions, you know, that's something that gets thrown around a lot because it was loosely based on Wahlberg. But then when you see Adrian Grenier, you played Vince, you know.


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[Assistant] So, I-I can't say this 100% cause I-I-I was not behind the door when those decisions were made, but I remember when the decision was made. Number one, there was always like a list. At that point in the show, people were calling us to be out. I bet, yeah. Early on, first two years, we were begging for cameras. And there was a few people I remember from those first two years that came on and supported and


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[Assistant] Came on to have fun. A lot of based on Wahlberg's relationships too, and the real Ari's relationships.


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[Assistant] But that was at a point where we had a flowing list of people, so I think...


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[Assistant] I'm off of fantasy, I'm in one league.


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[Assistant] Well, I just had a pretty good one with the Steeler game, cause, uh, I had, uh, a nice little parlay and I needed a Fryermuth touchdown and fell asleep. I woke up at two in the morning to pee and saw that touchdown. So that parlay hit. That was a good one. Uh, we actually hit a good one. This is not sports-ish betting. We shot an episode of Entourage at the racetrack.


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[Assistant] And uh, I think it was actually the, the Yom Kippur episode and we, it was a real race track in San Diego, so we were betting and we hit a 77 to 1.


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[Assistant] Her sports watching has declined while mine is trying to hang on for DRI. But no, she, I mean, she beats me and heads up fantasy leagues. We do FanDuel and DraftKings and all that stuff. She beats me regularly.


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[Assistant] Okay, this is great. I call, I did not come up with this phrase and my buddy Ben Lyons did, but I think it's totally irrelevant. All Cleveland teams are my team in law.


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[Assistant] Right? What that means is, what that means is, if they're not head to head with my team, I'm all for it. I want my in-laws to be happy. Life is better when they're happy. But yeah, when it's Knicks, Cavs first round, let me tell you, living here, all my neighbors, everyone was all over me. Very cocky that the Cavs are going to destroy the Knicks and I just, we'll see. Well, yeah, maybe, probably will.


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[Assistant] I'm actually throwing out the first pitch of the Guardians game tomorrow night. Oh nice. Really? That's awesome. And I'm terrified. No, don't, don't.


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[Assistant] I, we threw out the first pitch, uh, me and the other guys from the show. Years ago, Dodger Stadium, Dodgers, Yankees, but there was four of us at simultaneously, so we didn't throw off the mound because there was four of us. Okay. I went and I met a buddy to throw yesterday and let me tell you at 43, 60 feet looks a lot of different, a lot different than it did 10 years ago. You'll get it.


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[Assistant] Well, the thing that stands out right away, and I still don't know how I got cast in this movie. Talk about like things you dream of that come true. I got cast in this movie called Las Vegas, which was like senior citizen hangover.


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[Assistant] But if you're gonna get knocked out, that's the guy to do it. But it's so funny, like, we're getting ready to do a take, and he's such a nice man, like, and we're getting ready to call action, it's like a bit of a stunt, and De Niro's like, wait, hold on, hold on, Jerry, your shoe, tie your shoe. Oh, but De Niro's telling me to tie my shoe so I don't trip.


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[Assistant] So, just seeing those guys after all these years, and hearing like Morgan Freeman talk about his grind of like, oh this casting director, when I, you know, never casted me when I was in my twenties, like, you'd think Morgan Freeman's been in my life, my whole entire life, has just.


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[Assistant] And to think that he was out there grinding, struggling, you know, going from audition to audition.


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[Assistant] It's just, uh, it was humbling. And they spelled my name wrong on the chair. That's how I knew this- this is mo- like, you know, every actor gets their chair with their name on it. And I couldn't wait to take this picture with my name next to that chair, and they spelled it Jerry Fa-ra-ra-ra-ra-ra.


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[Assistant] I'm cutting, I'm cutting rivers unfortunately, I'm sorry. Was it, what was it? I'm benching Roethlisberger.


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[Assistant] Keep an Eli, keep an Eli, it's keep cut trade?


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[Assistant] Keeping Eli, trading Ben, cutting rivers. Alright. Wow.


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[Assistant] I don't want to, he's not my favorite of the bunch, so I'm gonna keep Paul Pierce. I'm gonna cut Mello, I'm gonna trade McGrady.


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[Assistant] See, this is tough because Shakora, who played Tommy, was a good boxer coming up as a kid. He boxed a lot of those years in Chicago. Look, alright, oh man.


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[Assistant] I'mma keep Wahlberg, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna cut Joe, and I'm gonna trade Kevin Hart. Again, don't feel great about any of this, and Joe, Joe boxed like as a kid a lot, he was a good athlete.


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[Assistant] Totino's, Joe's, and sorry, my eyesight's bad. DeFarce. DeFarce. I gotta, I'm gonna keep Joe's, I'm gonna cut DeFarce, I'm gonna trade, I've never been though.


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[Assistant] You gotta remember too, I suffered in LA. LA pizza now is good, but early on when I was a kid, like it was the pineapple on pizza. It was created in LA. I'm not doing that. I'll never get on board with that.


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[Assistant] It's so much, the greatest day of my life as a kid, and this is relevant to sports, I was nine years old, I just started really understanding football.


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[Assistant] Giants beat the Niners in the game. They knocked out Lawrence Taylor to go to the Super Bowl. Oh wow. My uncle took me to Spumoni Gardens, we had some pizza, and then I saw Home Alone in theaters. That's how long ago that was. That's the greatest day any nine-year-old kid could get. Yeah, I don't know how you topped that.


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[Assistant] That ep, remember, now at this point we got the list, people are calling us, and Eli Manning and Peyton Manning called to be on the show. Oh wow. And Doug Allen wrote that episode, it was Brothers vs. Brothers, it was Vincent Chase and Johnny Drama vs. Eli and Peyton, and then like two, three weeks before, much like I'm gonna do the Guardians now,


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[Assistant] Look at Jay Hayes. Jay is two people on this set that, hey, Jay is director Steve. Can't stand me for somebody who don't know what, I don't know what Steve's vendetta is. Steve's mad at me because


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[Assistant] If I was going up against Lamar, what makes Lamar so dangerous is the ability to use his legs. So, as great as our pass rush has been,


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[Assistant] It has been times where they've been flushed out of the pocket and it has created some lanes. You can't allow, you can't do that with Lamar because he's very dangerous with that. So if you're going to rush, I'm not saying rush.


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[Assistant] You do your best pass rush, but you cannot open up lanes. You have to rush together. I think this game is a big game for Dalvin Tomlinson and Jordan Elliott and whoever is at the defensive tackle. Because if you can get that push from down the middle.


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[Assistant] That's, that's hard to deal with as a quarterback, having your center or your guard in your lap. And if you try to escape, now you got Zidarius on the outside and Mauser is really nowhere to go. You want to make Lamar become a pocket pastor in this game. And if he beats you with his arm, then you can, you can salute to that, but you cannot.


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[Assistant] There's much man to man coverage as we run. You cannot let him get outside that pocket and beat you with his legs because it'll be a long game.


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[Assistant] You have to be very weary of how you rush. If you get too far up the field.


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[Assistant] I do, I do, because he's that dangerous. Uhm, but linebackers, if you got a spy, usually you put that spy on the guy, and you know, you let your, you do that. If you're gonna put a spy on, then you're free to let your rushers do whatever they want to do. Cause they'll flush him out the pocket and he'll just clean it up. Wherever he goes, that linebacker will just follow him.


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[Assistant] You know how they put Miles at that stand-up, de-tackle position? Yeaah. I think this would be probably one of the best games you'd do. You'd expect to see that a lot. Because if you got Zedarius and double-O on the outside, and now you got Miles bringing the pressure on the inside. Let's go back and take a look at the Miami Dolphin game.


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[Assistant] Power pitch you're trying to throw up by a power hitter. No, no, no, I didn't say to change what you're doing. I said that don't open no lanes. That's what I said.


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[Assistant] All I'ma tell you is, me and G had this conversation where he was like,


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[Assistant] It's like yeah, Jim Schwartz's defense, they don't care about contain.


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[Assistant] And I said, I've never heard, okay, that's a problem. I've heard that


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[Assistant] That's a fact. I need to know what coverage they playing behind on. Zero! So you playing man. I seen him play man.


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[Assistant] That's not what I'm saying. You just don't advise it. All I'm telling you is, oh, you better get there. You playing zero against a scrambling quarterback. Oh, you better not miss. If you miss, we talking not a 10 yard game. We talking a 30 yard game.


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[Assistant] I know a, I know a guy who only used to, only had four guys rushing and was comfortable with that and they ran him out of here. It's interesting.


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[Assistant] Well, if it, I do, well everybody knows that I do post-game show and like I said, Grant Dilpin had the most interesting comment in post-game show.


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[Assistant] They was like, yea Grant, the defense has been looking really good. How much do you credit that to Jim Schwartz? He said, well, I can tell you the difference is, I know, he knows what he's doing.


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[Assistant] Do we not realize that a lot of these secondaries, a lot of these, what we running like coverage wise is the same stuff?


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[Assistant] And sometimes it's not the X's and O's, it's the John's and the Joe's.


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[Assistant] I was, I was free on the blitz off the edge and I'm thinking me and this running back about to go head to head, that boy dropped low and I flipped it on my neck. I said for the rest of the game.


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[Assistant] Speaking of fumbling the ball, what do you think of the Browns third running back Elijah Moore taking carries?


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[Assistant] I'm not wrong. Listen, hold on. I'm not wrong. I might have not been 100% right. But I'm not 100% right.


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[Assistant] I'm doubling down that by the end of this season, it's 14 games left, he still will be a really top wide offensive weapon for the Braves.


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[Assistant] And I told you when I was like, I can see, I make the argument for both. I see why the Browns feel like they don't need to, but I also on the other side.


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[Assistant] What do you do? You throw some bubbles? You throw some jail breaks and get the ball in his hands? Because right now him and him and Deshaun don't have their time in together on the routes. He's not running the routes. Does that surprise you? Because we heard how much they were working together. Yea, it does actually. It kinda, it makes me upset actually because...


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[Assistant] He was at practice. They look so good in practice, but I guess Allen Iverson is right. Anyways, uh, I think just getting the ball in his hands, uh, since they can't get the timing down on the routes, just get the ball in his hands. He is short, he is elusive, so get the ball in his hands and get him in space and allow him to make people miss.


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[Assistant] I get down there, press, step, kick and we'll go, let's go ahead. Right, let's do it.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and three of my leagues I do, except for this one.


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[Assistant] You know why the Browns are upset that they don't have a first round pick this year?


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[Assistant] Well first, what I will say about Jay winning the championship is I'm going to say something that I heard a Cleveland great say before. It's about


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[Assistant] That's actually, all jokes aside, no, it is really cool and the story behind it is very meaningful and I respect that. I'm glad that you was able to do that and I'm sure your father is in heaven and they looking down and they smiling and they probably high-fiving each other. Our boys did it.


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[Assistant] Hey, I'm G Bush, the people's champ, the leader of the Kool-Aid Mafia. And I'm going to tell you why you got about five to 10 days or five to 10 seconds to get with DTR and look up some of his highlights on YouTube because he might be playing.


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[Assistant] He not really in football shape, but I think you're going to lean on Kareem Hunt a little more. And to Jason's point, you are going to need to have some throws from DTR. You can't just line up and run, you know, run, uh, you know, the ball and hope Baltimore is going to be playing back.


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[Assistant] You gotta hit some throws, you gotta use his legs, and the defense has to have a great game.


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[Assistant] Offensive lineman's best friend is running play action, getting the ball out. I think if you run the ball, they don't know what's coming. Mix it up up front, and that slows down any pass rusher. Take it from me, the defensive end.


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[Assistant] How great the Browns defense has been. How elite they've been. And you know, I've been on record saying, I don't think this just could be just this year.


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[Assistant] I think this could be an all-time great defense the way they're playing with Jim Schwartz. And defense travels in the playoffs. You look at it, uhm, what the Browns are built on is defense, running the football, uh, Deshaun Watson playing better and getting, making throws. I think with this defense, they win one time. I'll give them the one. I can't say two.


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[Assistant] Unless this offense comes around, but one time, I can see it.


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[Assistant] Yeah. I mean guys, you can fall forward for a few inches and get some yards. I think that's kind of tough, man. I mean, we saw the Browns give up a longer run. Granted, what they did against Derrick Henry gives you a really excitement of it. I think that somebody at least gets at least 40 yards.


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[Assistant] I ain't, I ain't changing nothing up. My headline says, you know, go grab you a cup. Brown's defense has the fans drinking a Kool-Aid and you know what I got. This is sponsored by the Black Cherry and Watermelon Kool-Aid. Get your cup right now. I think the Browns defense shows up and shows out like they always do. DTR score at quarterback. They're going to need a big game for Miles Garen in the defense.


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[Assistant] I'm going with the Browns and I'm going with them winning this game 23 to 13. Miles looks good in your t-shirt. Yes he does. Kool-Aid Mafia in the building. Jason.


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[Assistant] And I'm Jason Lloyd. I'm going to tell you why the Browns defensive line is the key to the game on Monday night in Pittsburgh. Mikey.


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[Assistant] You know, the longer it takes to get to that game, I think it's fair to question.


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[Assistant] And he hasn't been the quarterback that we were promised. That's just the reality of it. Doesn't mean he can't get back to that. We just haven't seen it yet.


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[Assistant] So until it does happen, I think it's fair to wonder, what exactly did the Browns sign up for with that 230 million? I don't worry about him not making the right play, he's always going to make the right play. If you look deep into the numbers, I'm not going to bore you with all the numbers, but if you look deep into the numbers of the first half Sunday, the Browns' entire game plan was to take shots down the field,


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[Assistant] Big chunk plays, hit the home run balls, it didn't happen, whether it was weather, he felt like he was off just a half a click, they dialed things back in the second half, they went to the game plan that was going to win them the game, hand the ball off to Nick Chubb, run the ball, short passes, and get out of Cleveland Brown Stadium with a victory, which they did.


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[Assistant] He does have the potential obviously for a 300, 300 yard passing, 3 touchdown game. I'm not going to predict when it's going to happen. It very well could be Monday night.


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[Assistant] It may take a little bit longer than that. I'm just saying the longer it takes to get back to that, it's fair to wonder what the Browns really got with it.


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[Assistant] We think we know what the Browns offense can look like when it's rolling. We think. We haven't seen it yet. We didn't see it week one, but we think we know. We know what the Browns defense can look like when it's rolling because we just saw it. And in Jim Schwartz system, the key to the whole thing working is the defensive line. It's creating the chaos upfront. Defensive linemen love playing in the system and they just get after the quarterback. It's what they do.


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[Assistant] We saw the heat that the 49ers put on the Steelers on that offensive line last week. We know it's possible for the Browns to generate that same type. I've been talking about it all week.


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[Assistant] The first play of the game when Zedaria Smith hit Joe Burrow on a three step drop.


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[Assistant] Three step drop, first play of the season, Joe Burrow gets hit. I looked around the press box and said, okay, there's something different about this. And the Browns players on the field looked around and said, okay, there's something different about this. It set the tone for the entire thing. As well as the Browns defensive backs played, and I think they will play in Pittsburgh, the whole key to this thing working is the heat that they can generate on Kenny Pickett up front with the front four.


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[Assistant] I like that idea. Mine's very simple. I'm giving a gift to Deshawn and all of greater Cleveland with a dome stadium.


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[Assistant] The whole reason Deshawn didn't want to come here in the first place was because of the weather. It scared him off. He originally told Cleveland no. And 230 million convinced him that cold weather ain't so bad after all. But at Dome Stadium, he played in one in Houston. He's used to warm weather. All of Cleveland can enjoy it. Nothing like watching football when it's 71 degrees and sunny. Man, that is so true.


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[Assistant] We haven't seen it yet. We haven't seen just Sean 325 in a browns jersey. So until it happens, I'll just keep taking the under.


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[Assistant] It's the strength of the unit that he's playing with this. I don't think he's ever played with anybody like Myles Garrett in his career. So is it, again, it goes back to probably two is unlikely. I don't think he's coming away with zero though against the line. So I took the over on this just because of the strength of the entire unit. And I've been really impressed so far with what I've seen out of him.


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[Assistant] It's not equal to two, it's one. And I think you're gonna get more than one touchdown. This was actually the easiest one of all. If you should've, you should've put like equal or lesser to two. Yeah, but now you gotta make the leap that they're gonna get more than four. Okay, but I know that, well,


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[Assistant] I think you're going to see a common thread here in our headlines because we're all going defense.


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[Assistant] I think Kenny Pickett's in for a long day against the Browns on Monday night. The Browns are going to form a picket line. Get it? Get it? Picket line. That's appropriate with the potential strike looming with UAW. I think the defense is going to get him twice. I even put in a score. Normally I'm a coward and I don't pick scorers because I don't like being wrong.


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[Assistant] Uh, even though I rarely am. So, Browns win at 27-14. I think they're going to get two inter, two interceptions at Kenny Pickett. And I just realized I said four, four touchdowns.


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[Assistant] Yes, that's ridiculous. So by the way, on a lighter note, I've been meaning to mention this as I've been driving by it for the last two weeks. Have you guys noticed the new banners that are hanging outside of Brown Stadium? They are awesome.


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[Assistant] Yeaah. I mean, I think it obviously has an impact just the way, just like the way Deontay Johnson has an impact for Pittsburgh. The difference is that the Browns have a much better quarterback and


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[Assistant] To me, this is, this is, like we've talked about, we need to see Deshaun Watson have his big game. I know you think he's gonna have a big game. I think he's gonna have a good game. You think he's gonna have a big game.


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[Assistant] That's why you get a quarterback like Deshaun Watson. Because when you have a quarterback like Deshaun Watson


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[Assistant] It's a deal. It's certainly a deal. When you're missing your best wide receiver, it's a deal. But if you have the quarterback, it shouldn't be an overwhelming deal. That's what I'm expecting to see. Hey, Donovan Peoples-Jones, be ready. Elijah Moore, be ready. Cedric Tillman, you're in the mix. You're the third receiver this week.


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[Assistant] Here's an interesting stat. I'm gonna give you a stat real quick, Mike. Amari Cooper traditionally is way better at home than on the road. They're on the road tonight.


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[Assistant] In home games last year, he averaged...


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[Assistant] Six catches for up close to 85 yards. That's unusual because this is his first year. God, it really is unusual. It's not like he... It's his whole career though. His whole career he's been that way.


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[Assistant] He is, he is though better at night. His, in night games, he's averaged almost 73 yards per game, which is better than one o'clock games at Portland.


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[Assistant] He's played 29, uh, prime time games in his career.


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[Assistant] Are we pass catchers, like including in Joku, or just receivers?


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[Assistant] I would say I probably was a seven and a half before. Okay. And now I'm a six. Oh, so it goes down that much? Six, six and a half. Okay.


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[Assistant] And it's more on Watson. It's more on Watson to make it easier for the other guys.


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[Assistant] I got friends, I got these group of friends real quick, I know we'll talk a little bit about it later, but a group of friends that I've been playing fantasy football with forever, most of them are friends from New York, over the years we've brought in a guy from Chicago, California, but mostly guys from New York, so there's a lot of Jets and Giants fans, and they're on there before the game like,


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[Assistant] So that's about a turnover every five games, which in this NFL is a lot for a defensive player, one every five games. He plays very aggressively, this system is very aggressive, so he's a good fit for this system.


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[Assistant] Rodney McCloud's a, I mean, he's one too. He's got a deaf ear. But Thornhill, I think Thornhill is definitely a dog. I don't think there's any, to me, I think he's that type of player. He's a talker, and I think he's a guy who backs up his talk.


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[Assistant] By the way, I don't know if anybody saw this, I just happened to catch this, uh, I think it was this morning I happened to catch it, but it was on Friday. Did anybody see Jordan Palmer, you know,


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[Assistant] You saw that. He was on Colin Coward. I'm not a big Colin Coward fan, but I saw the clip. Uh, Jordan Palmer was on and Colin Coward was asking about why, uh, Joe Burrow struggled last week. And he said, well, the weather and the injury, but he goes, because I'm telling you something.


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[Assistant] He goes, by the middle of this season we will be talking about the Browns defense like we're talking about the Cowboys defense. They are legit.


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[Assistant] I would argue that the Browns have the edge of coordinators.


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[Assistant] Kevin's the fancied head coach, but if you look at the, the, um, coordinator matches.


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[Assistant] I would give the edge to Stavansky. Even if you, even if you don't, even if you say even, still an edge overall at the coordinator. Jim Schwartz against Canada couldn't be a bigger mismatch.


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[Assistant] It is amazing that the Steelers have had three coaches my entire life, and I'm 52 years. I think they've had four in your life.


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[Assistant] It has to, because there's only been 98 regular season games since the start of 2017.


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[Assistant] By the way, this whole streak is fraudulent because he missed that playoff game against the Chiefs. That is true.


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[Assistant] I just want to guess, even though I think I'm wrong.


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[Assistant] Sean Keiser was out of the league like two years later. I may be high on this.


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[Assistant] Again, I disagree with the credibility of that, and I love Joel Botonio, but although he missed that game because of COVID, I think. Playoff game.


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[Assistant] Well Jay, in fairness, you're arguing that this second game of the season is more important than a game you diminished for Deshaun Watson.


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[Assistant] It was a playoff win and it counts. It could still count and you could still admit that the Steelers, what was amazing about that year is, if you remember, the Steelers started 11-0 that year. I remember. They were 11-0 and then they lost four of their last five games in the regular season. They were nose to nose.


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[Assistant] I have miles too. I have miles too. I got new truck too. So then obviously we're in the same


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[Assistant] My number four is going to surprise you. We've kind of ignored Betonio. No we haven't. No we ain't.


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[Assistant] You want Betonio one of the top three players in this game? Yeaah. I can argue that Betonio is closer to a Hall of Famer than any of them.


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[Assistant] And that would be a good argument. And he's a guard. He's played longer. Guards don't touch the floor. Position doesn't matter. We said position doesn't matter. We said best in... If we clarified the beginning, position doesn't matter. Who's the best at their position?


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[Assistant] And that's why I think you guys are biased with Miles over Chubb because of position. I think you're using position.


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[Assistant] I just think we're so biased by quarterbacks, it's an unfair app- it's not an apples to apples comparison.


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[Assistant] Who you going, Petonio or? I'm going with Niko Fisk. You sold me out. Three years ago, Baker won a playoff game. You sold me out, G.


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[Assistant] Let me, let me see. I just want to see where Martin Emerson ranks coming into the season on PFF. Go back to your precious PFF grades. Well, I gave you the other guys that backed up what you said. It's all we have. Right? Make a fifth to Patrick was second. You guys are not taking into account the cornerbacks on other. Denzel Ward, by the way, ranked higher at 14.


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[Assistant] Way too hot. So you're picking Emerson based on projection, not.


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[Assistant] By the way, speaking of injuries, did Odell got hurt again already? No, I didn't see that. I did.


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[Assistant] I am, I am absolutely fair. Baker has played tremendously well in these first two games. Do I believe he's gonna keep it up? No. Because as soon as he plays two good games, he gets cocky and arrogant, which he, and becomes a wise guy in press conferences, which he did last year. But. He did yesterday, too. I meant to say yesterday, not last year. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] He, but he's played tremendously well in these first two games. Now, you played a team in the Bears who's not very good, but last week they beat a decent team in Minnesota, at least a team I think is going to be decent in Minnesota.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but, uh, Baker made some big plays and, and, you know, you thought Mike Evans and Chris Godwin were gonna lose their fantasy value. So far they have not.


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[Assistant] Mike Evans had a monster game yesterday, like five for 160. The Bucs ended up getting a pick six to seal the deal when it got cut to three. But, uh, I got nothing bad to say about Baker, except I think it will go down the tubes this week when they play Philadelphia. I think he's gonna come back to reality.


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[Assistant] All credit due, through two games, Baker's played just about as well as any quarterback in the league so far this year. He deserves credit for that. All that's fair.


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[Assistant] The bangles are owing too. Uh, it don't feel great. If Burrow were completely healthy, I wouldn't be worried at all.


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[Assistant] I actually thought he played very well from like late second quarter on. He threw a pick that was a bad pick. But they moved the ball up and down the field from their third possession on.


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[Assistant] And they fell short because the defense couldn't stop the Ravens on that last, uh, last drive. Obviously I don't want the Bengals to be 0-2, but I think they're in some trouble because of Burroughs' injury. I don't know, like if this, if he's gonna keep, if it's gonna keep popping up, they're not gonna make the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I thought Lamar played one of the best, you know the numbers aren't gaudy, but I actually


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[Assistant] I thought it was one of the better games I've seen him play in a while. He made big throws when he had to on third down.


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[Assistant] That's a bad raven. And he's got bad, you know, if Odell's healthy, which, you know, he's not now and you can't rely on him, then it's good. But this kid, Zay Flowers, he's a player. Oh my god, he is an absolute player. He looks like a real player. And, uh, so, I don't think the Ravens defense is that good, honestly.


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[Assistant] I don't like their pass rush. The Bengals offensive line actually played pretty well. I think Burrow only got sacked once and that was his fault. He held on to the ball too long.


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[Assistant] Well Atlanta, the Giants, and Washington all came back from big deficits to pull off nice wins.


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[Assistant] That was nuts. I mean, I love being able to watch at four o'clock watching the four games. But Bijon Robinson looks fantastic for Atlanta, but they got no quarterback. He's not any good Desmond Ritter. I think that's pretty obvious. They got a great backfield. Uh, Arizona stinks. I think secretly their front office was happy they blew that game to the Giants because they want to be the top pick in the draft.


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[Assistant] I think, you know, the players don't want to lose, obviously, but.


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[Assistant] Because one guy has played with a bunch of great players and the other guy has played with a bunch of scrubs on the D line. Facts.


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[Assistant] And that's it. Let's be honest. If he, if he were drafted by the Browns, the national story would be he sucks. He's terrible. He's the next to Sean Kaiser. All right. The Steelers got lucky. The Steelers got lucky that Ben Roethlisberger, the worst, one of the worst human beings on the face of the earth,


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[Assistant] He hated his guts, he was an awful human being, his teammates thought he was a bum, and you got lucky getting him for a bunch of years.


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[Assistant] By the way, hold on, we gotta get back to something. You were trying to make a point. Okay. That Kenny Pickett, this was late last season, right? Late last season. Kenny Pickett.


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[Assistant] Playing against, uh, what's his name? Tyler Huntley. Like, cause they beat a Ravens team that was completely falling apart at the end of the year. That's some sort of great accomplishment by Kenny Pickett. I'm more curious how he thinks the students are gonna move.


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[Assistant] You, you know he's, he's no good, right? He's just a guy, right? You admit that, right? Or no? Me? Yeaah! Who'd you think I was talking to?


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[Assistant] Couple of corrections. They weren't over 500 with Trabisky. In fairness to Pickett, Pickett got him over 500.


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[Assistant] I'm glad you said how much money he's making, cause G was like, remember when Burrow signed his contract, you were like, I think I'm gonna talk about his contract all the time.


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[Assistant] I don't know if you guys watched the broadcast, but I watched the entire broadcast of the Bengals Ravens. They must have mentioned his contract 12 times. It's a, it's a rope around his neck. So they, you know, it's, it's there. They mentioned it every time he makes a bad throw.


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[Assistant] If he can make up to $4 million dollars, the breakdown of the contract hasn't been. Clearly the fact that it was only $4 million dollars makes you think that the other team either didn't offer him anything. They didn't offer him $4 million dollars. It makes sense for both sides. You know when the injury first happened in Nick Chubb, I like many others.


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[Assistant] Was prisoner of the moment. I try to pride myself on not being that, but I, but I clearly was when I was like, get Jonathan Taylor, getcha. That doesn't make sense for this team right now. Financial sense.


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[Assistant] It just, it just, yes, obviously, Jonathan Palin is better, but it doesn't make financial sense, nor does it make up, make sense what you'd have to give up to get it. Yeah, you'd have to give up Palin to get it.


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[Assistant] He's a veteran NFL player. He still has something left in the tank, I believe. We don't know what kind of shape he's in right now, but he knows the system, he knows the team, he knows the players. I think Jerome Ford, at least initially, has still got to be the main guy. And that's the report. But I think this was the best.


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[Assistant] He was probably the best option to be the 1B or the 2 if you want.


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[Assistant] Let me ask you guys a question. Let me ask you a hypothetical that maybe on a slower time of the year we can debate some time. Okay. A real quick answer on the hypothetical.


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[Assistant] Well, I'm going to Division 3 because my wife is friends with the NYU women's, uh, volleyball coach and they played for a national title last year, lost in the championship. Did they? Really? Wow. They did. But, uh, but last night I was watching the WNBA for a little while. Oh, it's really good. You know what?


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[Assistant] Anyway, I don't mean to sidetrack our football talk because obviously we're going to get the cream on, but I just thought I'd stun you all by saying we're watching WNBA.


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[Assistant] I'll give you one other thing. What's the one thing Kareem Hunt does better than Nick Chubb? Catch his passes. Catch his passes. That's one of his biggest strengths is a running back. It's something that he's always been very good at.


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[Assistant] I thought to me, I'm not an expert, but to me he looked noticeably slower on the field. I did not think he had the same burst at athleticism that he had in the past.


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[Assistant] He still, but he wasn't terrible. I thought last year he was more in the serviceable category. Well the numbers put that out.


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[Assistant] You're 100% right. The special backs.


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[Assistant] And Nick Chubb's one of the few. How many special backs are there? There's Nick Chubb, there's Derek Henry, there's Christian McCaffrey. Who else is special?


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[Assistant] And those guys, the offensive line is almost irrelevant. Now it's not completely irrelevant, of course. You can't have five terrible offensive linemen. But those three guys can make up for mistakes of all linemen more than any other player. And that's what we see.


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[Assistant] Contact? Yea, and that's it. That's a running back. Especially at the tackle position. Listen, you look...


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[Assistant] Which is okay. He's a rookie late pick. We don't expect him to be perfect. Right. And he was playing against T.J. Watt this past week.


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[Assistant] That's what you're concerned about with both Ford and Hunt is that they're not going to be able to make as many guys miss. Nobody is as Nick Chubb. So the running game, which will still probably be good. Well, there's no way it can be. It's not elite anymore. No, I don't know.


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[Assistant] Here's what the, what you can read into this signing. Is that the Browns believe in Jerome Ford.


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[Assistant] There were a handful of carries, especially when he first went in, that were zero in one yard. Probably none of those were his fault. It was the offensive line. But he made some good, even in the fourth quarter, besides a 69 yard run.


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[Assistant] He had three rushes in his last like seven carries that were six or more yards. I mean, that's pretty good.


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[Assistant] With, with Nick Chubb here, you know you still gotta run the ball a lot. He's got a great back. Maybe there's a part of him that's like,


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[Assistant] So both. Yeah. Uh, I think it was, I mean, he's, I know his, you know, his opportunity was down last year more than, well, his first year with the Browns, he actually had less attempts per game. But the two years before last year, he had more.