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[Assistant] Elijah Moore has in four games, 17 receptions, 148 yards and no touchdowns. What does Elijah Moore stats look like if Kyle Shanahan was calling plays for Elijah Moore?


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[Assistant] He has on the seat. He's got to be minus yardage. No, he had a couple positive runs. Well didn't he have a minus 31 yardage?


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[Assistant] Three yards on seven. Jason's right, he has three yards on seven carries. And his long run is 19 yards.


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[Assistant] Six catches, 75 yards, no touchdowns. What would DPJ stats look like in a Kyle Shanahan off?


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[Assistant] We got two more before we get to the next one, speaking of JAG, Steve Smith on NFL Network. If you didn't know what a JAG was before Steve Smith yesterday, you sure as you know what do now.


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[Assistant] Gee, we got two more of these real quick before we bring in Tim Calvi. We got David Njoku. He has 16 catches, 138 yards, averaging 8.6 yards per reception this season. What does his stats look like? No touchdowns by the way, but what does his stats look like if Kyle Shanahan was calling plays for the Browns?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. And ours is not. G, last one before we bring in Tim Couch. How about Jerome Ford? He has 50 carries, 186 yards, 3 total touchdowns on the season. What do those numbers look like if Kyle Shanahan is dialing up plays for Jerome Ford?


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[Assistant] There's nothing BC or D list about our next guest though. And that is the one and only Tim couch. We got to bring Tim in here. As always, Tim is sponsored by the two minute warning show.


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[Assistant] Two minute warning. Sunday. Me, G, Earl. Post game show. Browns. Two minute warning. Can't emphasize that enough. Two minute warning. It's our Tim Couch throw up in the NFL. We'll see you then. With that, let's bring in Tim. What's up, Tim?


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[Assistant] It is gonna be fun. Yeah, I can't wait. Uh, once again, just a quick reminder to the good people. We are halfway through the YouTube portion of today's show. In 45 minutes from this exact minute, we're heading over to the big screen. WKYC Channel 3 for 30 minutes of brand new, never seen before,


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[Assistant] Real quick before we go, it is officially official. The Browns have ruled out Deshaun Watson and PJ Walker will be the starter. That's according to Mary Kay Cabot. Officially official.


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[Assistant] We don't need to go to you. No, cause he could go with the other person who I'm thinking.


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[Assistant] I, no seven. Or seven, I'm sorry. Ayuk is seven. Right. Three more spots. Eight? I got Debo with, I'm with...


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[Assistant] So George Kittle at nine and number ten. No, no, no, wait, wait, who was eight? Eight was Samuel.


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[Assistant] Okay. Two for Denzel Bull. If you go with Delpit, it's a split. If you go with somewhere else.


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[Assistant] I think for this game, I'm going Denzel.


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[Assistant] I think Denzel's a guy who's playing extremely well. They need a cornerback with these receivers.


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[Assistant] Yes, but considering the quarterback and it's who would you want for the game?


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[Assistant] Just who you'd want on Sunday. Number one, Trent Williams. Number two, Christian McCaffrey. Number three, Miles Garrett. Four, Nick Bosa. Number five, Fred Warner. Brock Purdy comes in at number six. Brandon Ayuk at seven. Debo Samuel at eight. George Kittle at nine. And Denzel Ward at ten. Rounding out the totals. Eight for San Francisco.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's five stats you guys need to know for Sunday when the Browns and 49ers square off here at Cleveland Brown Stadium. The first stat that you guys need to know.


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[Assistant] A receiving touchdown versus Pittsburgh. McCaffrey rushing touchdown versus the Rams. The Giants held them to a field goal after a 15 yard, 94 yard, a 15 play, 94 yard drive. McCaffrey scored another rushing touchdown and then George Kittle.


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[Assistant] Scored a touchdown against Dallas on the opening possession. That is more points than any other team in the league.


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[Assistant] The Browns defense has been phenomenal out the gates. The Niners offense has been phenomenal. Yeaah. The Browns need to keep them off the scoreboard early.


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[Assistant] And the field goal against the Giants was like an 18 yard field goal. They drove all the way down and got stalled at the two. Yeah.


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[Assistant] When is it your turn? It's a great question, G. That brings us to our second step. We've talked all week about how prolific Brock Purdy and this San Francisco offense has been, and Purdy's been damn near perfect this season, except...


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[Assistant] His one flaw is that he's short in terms of NFL quarterback terms. He is third in the NFL with five batted passes at the line of scrimmage this season. If you're going.


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[Assistant] To get to Brock Purdy, you got to get there super quick. He gets the ball to his hands extremely fast. He'll touch on in a little bit. So if you're not gonna get there.


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[Assistant] Put your hands up, try and back down passes. He is susceptible to that. Cleveland ranks 28th in the league this season with only three batted passes this season. Hurst has two, Harris has one. But I have to imagine Jim Schwartz, if I can find the numbers, you know the Browns have them. Jim Schwartz is saying.


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[Assistant] I will try and redeem myself with this uh, with this third nugget. The next stats are all from ESPN's analytics. The Browns defensive line has the number one run stop win rate in the NFL.


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[Assistant] At 39%. Essentially, that means they're getting off their blocks at a 40% clip. That's the best in the league. On the flip side, despite the fact San Francisco's rushed for 100 plus yards in 11 consecutive games,


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[Assistant] They have the 15th ranked run block win rate at 71%.


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[Assistant] That favors the Browns, and the Browns haven't actually given up a hundred yard rusher since week 15 of last season. That's a span of seven games in a row. My math is correct.


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[Assistant] Six games in a row, because my math was incorrect. Browns get off blocks as close as they can to Lee. My math was right.


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[Assistant] But it was actually eight. So it was four last year and four this year. Which equals eight. Which is eight. Four plus four is eight. Essentially no team gets off blocks better than the Browns. The Niners average in their ability to sustain blocks in the run game. They're creative, so it's not a perfect, uh,


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[Assistant] Number to track the effectiveness of the run game, but if any team could, in theory, get off blocks to stop what Sedanahan does in this run game, it should be Jim Schwartz and the Browns.


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[Assistant] Alright, next up, how about a little Myles Garrett madness. He has a pass rush win rate of 29% this season, despite getting double teamed on 27% of his rush. That's a career low, which means the other weapons in the defensive line have helped Myles get one-on-one pressures. He has the fastest recorded sack of any player in the NFL this season according to next-gen stats. He got the quarterback down to the ground.


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[Assistant] In 2.27 seconds and he's averaging getting his pressures in 2.14 seconds. Also fast in the NFL. Why is that important?


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[Assistant] Well, Purdy throws the ball in 2.4 seconds. They're faster than the league. It is a battle of who can get to the spot quicker. Purdy, the fifth step of his drop, miles to Brock Purdy. It's going to be tough, but if anyone can do it, it's Miles Garrett.


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[Assistant] Overall, Jim Schwartz is 8-1 against Kyle Shannon head-to-head matches, but that takes into consideration when they were both like offensive and defensive assistants. Sure. Since they've been at least a coordinator or a head coach.


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[Assistant] Schwartz is 6-1 against Kyle Shanahan. He was 2-0 against Shanahan when he was the head coach in Detroit and Shanahan was the OC in Washington. He was 3-0 as the defensive coordinator in Philadelphia and Tennessee as Shanahan's been the head coach in San Francisco. And when he was the DC.


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[Assistant] And Shanahan was the OC, he was 1-1 in one season. When Shanahan was in Houston, he was in Tennessee. Here's what you gotta know though.


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[Assistant] In those games, his team is forced 1.9 turnovers per game. Just shy of 2 turnovers per game.


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[Assistant] They have only scored more than 21 points in those 8 match- in those 7 matchups, excuse me, once. Wow. 21 points once in those 7 matchups.


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[Assistant] Are you guys ready for the games? I think it's more, how many are there? This has seven on them. Okay.


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[Assistant] 18 points a game. No, it's less than that. You said 127 divided by 7? Yes. I thought it was 117. Did you do it? Oh, you did it. Okay, because I was going to say.


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[Assistant] Really, really, really quick before we do sunshines and rainbows. It's a proud dad moment. Earl has a stat he wants to add to the six pack of McNuggets. It's a proud producer moment. Earl, would you like to share your stat that you did a little research on it?


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[Assistant] I just love the fact he's doing research now. I do too and I listen, those are all great numbers.


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[Assistant] It's gotta fit on a graphic. Guys, we have to debut a brand new topic here, a brand new subject. We're gonna end, if we like this, Friday's TV, uh, YouTube show before we go to TV with something we call Sunshine and Rainbows.


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[Assistant] It's the final take, except you each have 45 seconds to a minute to tell Browns fans why they should feel good heading into the weekend. Bull, you're up first.


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[Assistant] Worth looking at and spending money at this point of the season. William Slater, medically cleared means he won't risk further injury but not able to perform. Brett Watson says, please tell me an edict wasn't given from Jimmy to lie about the injury to ensure ticket sales. Kyle Pon, uh, Ricky Ponzi.


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[Assistant] He says, I believe Kyle Shanahan would be a good head coach one day. Ken Bell just sent money. Thank you, Ken Bell. Jonathan Mann, Jason, heard anything about trades? Ken Bell, we are 500, lost two of three in division. Everyone says no playoffs. The fancy goes, this feels just like the last two years. What are we waiting for? Do it for Chubb, says G. Bush out there looking like Kenny Crumpton.


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[Assistant] How does the team overcome a dysfunctional, incompetent, impotent ownership group or the... I'm not getting much out of this. ...destruction. This is a fantastic help. I'm gonna fight to LA in five hours to kill. Why am I super chatting so much? We're not there to preach you in it. And Bynes has a question. Is KS head coach trying to be an offensive coordinator and offense coordinator trying to be head coach? It's a hard thing trying to manage both. Those are super chats. We'll see what's happening here. We couldn't understand a word you said.


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[Assistant] Before I do a read, can I tell you how that came about by the way? So we did the first five pack of McNuggets stats before I think the Ravens game. Right, the five piece. The five piece, yea. And Ryan who made our intro, like the OG epic intro, the 90 second one, uh, 90 second one, was like, hey, uh,


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[Assistant] Do you care if I put it in the intro? I was like, do I care? Hell yeah. Like twice. So it kind of came out like that. We've got a busy show, so let's get into some topics before we do that.


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[Assistant] Of the ultimate Cleveland sports show and Steve, if you want to take tag board full.


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[Assistant] And we have some news on PJ Walker. No, on Deshaun Watson. Oh, I thought you said PJ. Amari Cooper just said that Deshaun's going to practice today.


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[Assistant] Tonight, at 3 o'clock, I should say this afternoon, The Barber Shop.


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[Assistant] 3 o'clock the barbershop right now at 11.57 a.m. on this lovely Thursday afternoon. It's time to play a little game of No Fence Riders Brown's Colts Edition. Bernie has never been a guest with us when we've done No Fence Riders. This will be his first test into the No Fence Ride around. Bernie, it's a yes or no answer. There's no in between. You gotta pick us out of the fence.


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[Assistant] Bernie Kozar, will a Browns receiver catch a touchdown pass this weekend versus Indy through five games? In totality, the Browns receivers have one touchdown catch.


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[Assistant] In totality, they have four touchdowns. All four were from Deshaun Watson. They have seven interceptions. Deshaun has two, Walker has two, DTR has three.


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[Assistant] All right, Mike, what's, what's next? Question number two, Zedaria Smith has yet to record a sack as a Cleveland Brown. Will his first sack of the season come on Sunday against the Colts? Bernie, you're up first, yes or no? Yes.


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[Assistant] And Bernie, once again, joining the majority here, but it's not as much of a majority because Bull-


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[Assistant] So Darius does rank in the top 10 in pass rush run rate, so he is been effective as a pass rusher, even though the stats don't necessarily back it up. Yea, now he's helped obviously by Miles Garrett, but that's a fact.


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[Assistant] So Bernie, before we get to the next question, I just want to let you know, we have a 3-4 split, so you can make this a dead even 50% split here, depending on your answer. The question is, will any colts running back?


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[Assistant] Average at least 3.6, not any, excuse me. Will the Colts running backs average 3.6 yards per carry against this vaunted Browns defense on Sunday? 3.6 is the number.


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[Assistant] What's next? We have our last one here, guys, and then we're gonna move on and talk a little historical offenses and defenses, which I can't wait to do with Bernie in the house here, but this was not a perfect 4-3 split. It was a 5-2 split, so Bernie can make this pretty even.


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[Assistant] Will the Browns win the turnover battle against the Colts for the first time this season? Miraculously, the Browns 3-2 on the year despite being 0-5 in the turnover battle. Bernie, is this the game the Browns come out on top in the turnover game?


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[Assistant] So Jay, question for you guys. Okay. And I'll put it out very simply. The Browns through five games have been a historically good defense. A thousand and two yards allowed through five games. That is it. That's the fewest in fifty years in the, in the NFL.


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[Assistant] So would you guys rather have an all time great offense or an all time great defense?


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[Assistant] Just a couple super chats to get to today. The first one comes from Simple. He says just a point on Elijah Moore real quick. He could have had just the eye of a hundred yards if PJ wouldn't have under thrown him three times in the fourth quarter.


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[Assistant] Uh, James Cosby says, Bernie has always displayed a high football IQ and feel for the game. Hyper Frosty says, what do I do to, what do I have to do to get on the show? Name it. I'll do it as long as it's not money. Uh, Hyper Frosty, we'll think of something.


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[Assistant] That is big news for the Browns. Two more real quick. Kenny Moss says, I would love to see a Lions and Brown Super Bowl. I would too. And Jacob Gordon said, Bernie is the man. Remember when he came to St. Anne grade school in the Heights when I was there, pretty sure he signed an autograph for every student. Love him on the show. Thanks again for everything, Bernie.


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[Assistant] The difference here is Kirk Cousins is out for the entire season, and we just don't know when Deshaun Watson's gonna come back. So to make a splash move and bring in a guy, and I'll use Jameis as an example because that's who Minnesota is linked to. Well, Minnesota's 4 and 4.


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[Assistant] You're looking at the rest of the season, that's nine games. Jameis Winston coming in can help you win a handful of nine games. Jaren Hall, that's a complete crap shoot. We may have Deshaun Watson back.


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[Assistant] This week against Arizona. We might not. We may have him back next week against Baltimore. We might not. It could be the following week, but without that long-term certainty that he's going to miss a prolonged period of time, I'm not sure how much of an upgrade


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[Assistant] Would be for a one or two game stopgap. Because PJ Walker, at times, has proven, despite being almost dead last, if not dead last in every important


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[Assistant] Basic statistic, analytical statistic, and the eye test. They found ways to be in three straight games.


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[Assistant] You know, this lane, do the Browns need an upgrade at quarterback too? Absolutely. Yeaah. And they're frankly, with Brissette, they don't have a fourth round pick this year, which throws a little bit of a wrench. Because a third round pick for a couple of games may be too high of a price for Andrew Barrett to pay. But is a fifth round pick not enough with Washington's knowing? Well he only took one sack last week, he played phenomenal last week.


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[Assistant] The only argument right now is what's the price. Exactly, and that's why I guess I kind of get stuck on this where you're already a little depleted in draft capital because of the Sean Watson trade.


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[Assistant] You have a second round pick, a third round pick, and a fifth round pick. That fourth round pick's gone.


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[Assistant] If that's the case, fine with it. I just think a third round pick for what may be one or two games is a price too high to pay. Which feels real quick, which feels like nitpicking because I think this roster


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[Assistant] Bottom line is PJ Walker by any metric you want to look at.


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[Assistant] So quarterback wins do not necessarily equal he's playing well. You have to separate those two completely. And if no one wants to tell me, this brown seat can compete.


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[Assistant] With the Bengals, the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Dolphins, the best teams in the AFC this season. With PJ Walker quarterback, I'm gonna tell you you're damn crazy and go get checked. However,


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[Assistant] Well real quick, Earl just sent us a text, according to JP Finley of NBC Sports, he does a really good job covering the Washington football team.


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[Assistant] Mike, when you look around the NFL, there's not as many trades at the NFL deadline as there is in the NBA and MLB deadline. Is that just because general managers are more...


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[Assistant] Or less willing, excuse me, to part way with picks in opposed to other sports? Or is it just kind of the fundamental roster building philosophy that trades aren't the way to a Super Bowl like they could be in the NBA or NFL?


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[Assistant] Mike, thanks again for joining us. We really appreciate it. Last week you wrote an article on your website Pro Football Talk. Go check it out. It was titled and I quote, strange vibe continues between Browns and Deshaun Watson. That was five days ago. Fast forward to today.


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[Assistant] Do you still get the sense that there's some sort of strange vibe going on between the franchise and their star quarterback?


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[Assistant] And it was interesting to hear his perspective. We're, we're in it. In the minutiae, in the detail, in the depth every day to see kind of an outside perspective, whether you like Floria or not, that's up to you, but to see someone from the outside kind of looking in and how they perceive.


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[Assistant] What's happening here in Cleveland between the Sean and the franchise. Yeaah. It's interesting to hear. So, Ant, what's up?


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[Assistant] I have G's answers, I will answer as if I was G Bush, so. I would love to see that.


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[Assistant] Where's the Kool-Aid? Where's the Kool-Aid cup? Where does he keep the Kool-Aid packets? What's that? I'm going first? You're going first. Okay, so me, then G, Aka Mike. I would throw some Kool-Aid packets on him.


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[Assistant] He been a, he been a scratcher all year though. Yeah, but the eco one makes perfect sense if you actually look at the numbers, because Mo Hertz has been playing out of this world, Jordan Elliott has been playing well, so he's just, you know, he only dressed 40, was it 48 on game day.


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[Assistant] It's gonna take a little while to heal, to back to full strength. He played last week and give him kuda. That man's tough as you know what for coming back after a low grade high ankle sprain and playing just seven days later. That means you don't fully trust Kareem Hunt to stay healthy. He has a little bit of thigh injury. He just scored a touchdown. He played well against Seattle, but you're looking long term here.


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[Assistant] And we just don't know exactly what you have in Pierre Strong yet. He looked very good, I thought, in some limited action against Seattle. He looked very good all season. But if you want Dalvin Cook, you just want another veteran.


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[Assistant] In that locker room, in that running back position, uh, in that position group, I don't


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[Assistant] Who demands a higher return in a trade? Casey Young or Brissette? Casey Young.


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[Assistant] Do you think Edge is a pressing need for the Browns right now? No. And I ask that because this weekend, and once again Twitter is just a small gauge of the fan base and look.


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[Assistant] I saw people, and I personally disagree with your opinion, cool, but like,


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[Assistant] It's funny, if you look at Edge, and this is maybe a bigger, bigger topic than today, but...


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[Assistant] You know, we expected this Browns team to be having sacks left and right, and kudos to you for saying, hey, everyone else, everyone else on this panel, except you, predicted like 40, 50 plus sacks on this unit. And through seven games, Zidarius has won, now he's played well, this is not a, sacks is not a-


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[Assistant] And you were the one that was right, cause I was wrong.


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[Assistant] It's the Patrick Mahomes effect. I went to that cover, was it a too high safety look, cover 2, whatever you want to call it, forced Mahomes to check down, beat you, and now that's the most common practice defense across the world.


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[Assistant] And that's why you see running backs, and I'll use Alvin Kamara as an example, but he's, he missed the first three games, so he's not top of the league. He averages more catches per game than any other player in the league. Because Derek Carr is like, oh, you're playing seven yards off line. Check down, check down.


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[Assistant] We do have Jerry and Judy, and this one's very interesting. This one to me was probably the most intriguing non-quarterback option on the board here for the Browns, and I'm gonna channel my energy bush here.


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[Assistant] And, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, this, this is my G-bush. I can't do an impression, I apologize. Oh, we have a trade, real quick, hold on. A trade. The Bears and Commanders have traded Montez Sweat.


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[Assistant] So Washington could be in sell mode, which means more and more chance that for set.


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[Assistant] Maybe he could be had for a little less. Back to Jerry Judy though, and I'm a BG. Not in the peoples, Jones. Where you been at? Elijah Moore? Elijah Less. Amari Cooper? That's my dog.


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[Assistant] But we need another dog in here. It don't matter who's a quarterback. They don't have receivers. That ain't gonna happen. It don't matter. So for Jerry Judy...


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[Assistant] Are we getting consistency from numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 on this wide receiver depth chart? Uh, no. So he's not doing anything to change that. And secondly,


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[Assistant] Let's have someone who can light a little fire into these guys' behinds. Let's get a little energy and pizzazz in this wide receiver room and see if that maybe can energize a group that frankly has disappointed this season. So Jerry Judy for me, G. Bush, Cowboy G. Bush. It's an 8 out of 10 on the Kool-Aid meter.


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[Assistant] You played. Do you need someone with that attitude in a locker room? On each side of the ball? Is that actually something that we as people that aren't there can say, yea, they need that problem?


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[Assistant] They have the most cap space in football.


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[Assistant] But they're not trying to win. They're not trying to win. They're not any good. But they just spent a ton of money last year too on defensive acquisitions. And they're projected to have 110 million dollars in cash.


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[Assistant] I think Marquise is a legit number two. I think Marquise fits stylistically with Amari Cooper better than Judy. Judy and Cooper are kind of similar type receivers, at least with


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[Assistant] Couple other names, we didn't make cool videos for but I was going through this morning just to see if did I miss anybody. Couple of names I thought could be.


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[Assistant] Not even necessarily on the Browns Raider, but just trade deadline guys to watch. Uh, Mike Florio mentioned Josh Uche, the edge from New England. Who's been hurt, but when he plays has been good, he's in the last year of his contract. I still don't think edge is a giant need for the Browns, but if they do look for the cheapest productive edge option, Josh Uche makes some sense.


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[Assistant] No, no, no. Damien Harris. Damien Harris, right. And now it's him and Zeke.


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[Assistant] Three more names just to keep an eye on as possible guys. We mentioned Hunter Renfro really quickly. Don't think he moves your video at all.


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[Assistant] I think it would make sense for the Browns, but KJ Osborne of Minnesota, who's been there number 2-3 with Addison.


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[Assistant] You think, like, yes or no, if you were to put, let's say odds were even.


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[Assistant] Have you guys been watching the chat at all? Have you guys seen your own emojis? I have not been keeping it up. I don't know about Earl.


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[Assistant] That was sneaky. The whole Dobbs thing, I always appreciate Mary Kay's insight.


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[Assistant] I just can't fathom a world where Arizona would trade Josh Dobbs to the team. Back to the team they're gonna play. Yeaah. Now granted, they are trying to lose. Like they have, right now if they see somewhere to end.


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[Assistant] My point is if the season ended today, do you know who had the number one pick in the draft? Arizona. Arizona. They have no incentive from an organizational standpoint to win. So if they happen to give Cleveland a little extra


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[Assistant] But I just checked the chat and I did see them, they look good. Y'all look good as emojis.


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[Assistant] Do you think they'll make some sort of move, whether to address the wide receiver room, the running back room, the defensive end or defensive line? Will they make, will Andrew Berry end up today at 4-0-1 with some sort of news to announce to the fanbase?


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[Assistant] Mary Kay, a couple weeks ago you were on the show and you said this Browns defense is the most talented defense you've ever covered since you started covering the Browns. Not just a couple years ago, but-


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[Assistant] When you look at the team and how they've performed the last two weeks, 38 points to Indianapolis. They let Seattle drive 57 yards in the final minute last week.


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[Assistant] Can you kind of pinpoint or put your finger on why this team hasn't been as consistent on that side of the ball as they were in the first five weeks of the season?


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[Assistant] We spent all off-season clamoring over some of the Browns' moves, especially on the defensive side of the ball. They brought in Juan Thornhill, Zedaria, Smith, Agbo, but maybe the most underrated signing of them all.


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[Assistant] Has been Mohurst, who made one of the best big man interceptions I've ever seen on Sunday. When you go through the numbers, Mary Kay, Mohurst is graded out exceptionally well on PFF. His numbers jump off the screen, he forces and creates turnovers.


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[Assistant] So, I know the answers, so I'm gonna let you guys answer, and I'll tell you if you're right or wrong, but I'm gonna give you three players from a category. Let's say running backs, linebackers, one of the categories is a little mixed. And you just gotta rank the three. There's three.


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[Assistant] How do you think PFF graded these three running backs? You came in first, second and third.


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[Assistant] Before you show the answer, one of you guys is correct. Alright. Who will it be? Let's take it.


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[Assistant] With, I spent about 15 minutes looking. We're a same Browns offensive player.


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[Assistant] You're actually backwards. Poachett scored very well. Joel was right.


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[Assistant] Alright. That did not grade well. Tivus leads 2-1 in the competition right now.


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[Assistant] I don't believe either of you are correct. Let's see it.


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[Assistant] We got defensive players next. Defense players are a little more, uh, a little more interesting. But PJ Walker had upgraded his grade from a 23 last week to a 46 this week. Congrats. Doubling his week by week progression. Congrats. Go ahead.


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[Assistant] They still got the safety, Buddha Baker? He's not playing.


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[Assistant] That was a great play. Bam! So even the pick looks awesome. That's a picture from the interception.


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[Assistant] You guys, both are correct as Darius is last, but who's right about who's first? Ant, show em.


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[Assistant] Yeah, Walker was not good. J- I don't know how, but J.O.K. deserves.


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[Assistant] All the flowers is what he's turning around. You know why? Well he was last, cause the quilt.


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[Assistant] I will, I will get Jay's answers to Truman Falls before we play tomorrow.


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[Assistant] So yea, Josh Dobbs, we were all, as of yesterday, when we left the show, we were fully anticipating a Josh Dobbs reunion in Cleveland. And we would see once and for all, did the Browns make the right decision in trading him in the offseason. But, as it turns out, Arizona's head coach Jonathan Gannon,


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[Assistant] He's a Mount Union guy. There's a lot of Mount Union guys in the NFL, yeaah. So he watched the tape back, and then he'd had his Monday press conference, just like Stefanski does, and said, I watched the tape.


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[Assistant] And Josh Dobbs ain't it. He's not him. We're gonna start either Clayton Toon or Tyler Murray.


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[Assistant] We don't know at this point who's going to start for Cleveland. It could be Deshaun Watson. It could be PJ Walker. It could be DTR. So we are here at Tuesday at 12.32pm. And we don't know either of the starting quarterbacks from the game on Sunday.


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[Assistant] Hold up, Ian Rapaport just tweeted. Uh oh. It is likely that Kyler Murray.


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[Assistant] Yeah, that was bad on me, but it looks like Clayton Toon. Not in pocket. No, we're never in pocket again, but Clayton Toon appears to be the starter for Arizona.


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[Assistant] He went to the University of Houston. He was the pick in the draft. Literally one pick before DTR. Clayton Toon was picked 139. DTR was picked 140. Clayton Toon played in the preseason. They decided he was not capable of being the starter, so they traded for Josh Dobbs, which should tell you something, that Toon got all the QB1 reps in preseason.


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[Assistant] It's like 3-1, he threw 112 touchdowns at 41 interceptions in his career, if I remember. Made a stat this morning.


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[Assistant] But the truth is, we have a situation where it could be Clayton Toon. It still could be Kyle Murray, most likely Clayton Toon, versus whoever the Browns roll out quarterback. And as you said, there could be 50 options, but I am A, disappointed we're not going to get the Josh Dobbs reunion.


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[Assistant] Because I just wanted to see the Browns defense absolutely destroy his existence.


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[Assistant] Instead they want to kill this guy. We saw Tyson Badgent in Chicago. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] Do you game plan? Not any differently, but do you ramp up the aggressiveness?


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[Assistant] Would you feel more comfortable playing DTR in that game? Assuming they don't make a turn. Let's just say, Scott Walker and DTR. Do you feel more confident?


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[Assistant] If they go to DTR, she's saying it's tough to go back to Walker then if he doesn't play well and Deshawn's not ready. Split the ribs.


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[Assistant] See, I think that's the worst case scenario. I would go to DTR. I go back to this.


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[Assistant] I'm with tying the DTR thing though. They, they tricked Josh Dobbs in the first place because they believed in DTR. They don't make that Josh Dobbs trade if they didn't think DTR was ready to be quarterback too in case called upon an emergency. I don't think Baltimore was a fair shake for DTR whatsoever. I think he got done dirty. Whether or not he knew 15 minutes before, two hours before, whatever it was.


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[Assistant] He didn't show up Sunday knowing he was legitimately the starter. And we saw this week.


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[Assistant] P.J. Walker, despite the three turnovers, there were parts of the game where he played much better than he had in his first two starts. Why? I think he had Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday to prepare as quarterback.


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[Assistant] He'd take me as one more year after this, but they could finagle contract.


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[Assistant] Uh, one last thing in the quarterbacks, and I know we got some super chats, emojis, and members we gotta get to.


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[Assistant] So, for the sake of this, it's Clayton Toon. Tomorrow is Wednesday.


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[Assistant] Kevin Hart, did jokes say it with your chest? Yea, say it with your chest. Say it, mean it, move on, and live with the decision.


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[Assistant] That's it. Like you can't waffle, you can't waiver, pick a side.


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[Assistant] It's not, it's not apples to apples. One's at every play wide receiver too, one's like, I don't want to say a gadget guy, but a gadget.


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[Assistant] Oh, I thought it was, I thought I looked at team stats and it had Seahawks with 10.


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[Assistant] So I tweeted out this morning, man, the number of the day is 36. Why? Because PJ Walker will be the 36th different starting quarterback for the Browns since 99. He'll be the third different starting quarterback this season and the seventh different quarterback to start a game under head coach Kevin Stefanski.


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[Assistant] And I'm Jason Lloyd and I'm going to tell you about some odds that came out about what's better, what's more likely, the Browns to win the division or make the playoffs. I think you're going to be surprised by some of these odds. Some of them look really too low to me. Mikey.


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[Assistant] This was very easy for me because I look at scoring. A B C D!


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[Assistant] I gave him a D because all the- I've talked about it on the YouTube show.


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[Assistant] The teams will give you yards now. You can have all the yards you want, 20 to 20. That doesn't matter. It's what you do in the red zone. Are you scoring 6 or are you scoring 3?


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[Assistant] The Browns ranked 21st in the league in scoring, 21 divided by 32, 66%. That's a D. You can talk about throwing out this game. They all count the same. And right now the Browns offense just hasn't been good enough. One out of four, they looked like they were competent, knew what they were doing. That's an F. So I'm being generous and giving them a D.


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[Assistant] I mean, this is easy, right? Like, A-, the only reason it's a minus for me, they got dinged a little bit in the Baltimore game. Obviously, they weren't quite as good. So that takes them from an A to an A-, but otherwise, I don't know how you can complain about a unit that's getting after the quarterback.


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[Assistant] Bring a consistent pressure with by bringing four and five, not even really having to get exotic with some of the blitz schemes. The defensive backs have been great. Linebackers better than we expected. If it wasn't for a couple and really the Baltimore, they, the offense turned it over and gave it to him on short field, but they did let Lamar loose a couple of times. So for me, a minus is still, that's pretty doggone elite.


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[Assistant] Dustin Hoffman gets an Oscar for best performance. He's been terrific with the kicking game. Kick return game, they're down to their third returner. Obviously they lost Jakim Grant, they had to move Jerome Ford off it because he's now starting running back.


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[Assistant] D.P.J.'s been terrible on punt returns. I go back, I covered Ohio State when Brian Rabisky was there. The whole point was just catch it and fall down. And that's kind of where we're at with the punt return game right now. So it all balances out to me. I agree with Jay. Kicking game means more, but I still give him a C over.


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[Assistant] They're two and two, they're average. What's the average grade? A C. So I gave them a C. I agree. Kevin hasn't been as good as I had hoped.


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[Assistant] Uh, Jim Schwartz has been terrific. And I said this on the YouTube show a little bit ago, if zips and butts were candy and nuts, you know, how that whole saying goes. But this team is one strip sack away.


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[Assistant] And against the Steelers from being three and one and the only loss being when DTR started. So I think then we're having a completely different conversation. I think sometimes it looks worse than what it is. This has been a C performance to me all the way around.


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[Assistant] I want to see Deshaun get back to doing what makes Deshaun great and that means putting the ball in his hands and giving him some more RPO options.


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[Assistant] We really haven't seen a lot of those RPO run pass options where he's deciding if you hand it off or if you throw it. Now, I don't know if they ever run you back to hand it off to, but that's an entirely different conversation.


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[Assistant] Mine's easy if you've seen Varsity Blues. It's the Billy Bob. It's the hook and ladder. Send the guy in motion. You throw it to Omari Cooper who pitches it to Dewan Jones. It has to work. It worked in the movie. It'll be a 50-yard touchdown. Dewan will run down the field with defensive backs hanging on him. If you haven't seen Varsity Blues, go watch it. It's guaranteed to work every time.


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[Assistant] This is why I would never work at ESPNJ, cause I would never go for something as silly as an 11.5% chance to win a division when you're 2-2 and a game out of first with 13 games to go. Like the 48% chance, that's about right, like it's 50-50, it's a coin if they make the playoffs. To give them an 11% chance to win the division?


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[Assistant] That's silly. That doesn't make any sense. I don't know how they came up with that number. They're a game out of first place right now.


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[Assistant] I think ball actually stole my point. I think the single most impressive performance of any unit in any game this season. Oh, that's, that's no. Was the Dolphins. Yeah, that was easy.


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[Assistant] But I would go 2, 3, 4 with the browns, and based on that aggregate, I would slightly give the edge of the browns.


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[Assistant] A question real quick? So instead of, let's take this back a step outside of the three games. I'm going to give you two stats and I want you to tell me which stat, one's for the Dolphins, one's for the Browns, is a more


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[Assistant] Impressive individual stat. Okay. We mentioned this on the show yesterday, Steve, take tag board full. The Browns have allowed negative 36 rush yards before contact this season. The league average is 94.2. So is negative 36 rushing yards before contact.


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[Assistant] A more impressive individual stat. Steve, you can take the VO full here. Look at the fourth line.


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[Assistant] The Dolphins have seven more touchdowns than any other team in the league through three games.


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[Assistant] A PFF grades we have to get into before Mary Kay joins us. We're going to hop in. We're doing this a little differently than we've done the last couple of weeks. I'm going to give you six grades from the offense and then we'll do the defense and you guys will go one at a time from the highest grade to the lowest grade match who you think earned said grade from the PFF grader. So Steve, if you're ready, you can take 191.


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[Assistant] And you guys are gonna try to guess who, on the Browns offense, scored a 71.5. Stevie, take it full whenever you're ready.


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[Assistant] Not that one, you dropped that one, Steve. Not that one, Steve, you dropped it. Already messing up. Steve's back for two days from his crew, still on vacation mode. It's the one in the SOT folder.


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[Assistant] So the votes are in and the highest grade according to PFF on the Browns offense from their win over the Titans was Steve Takit. Harrison Bryant.


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[Assistant] Well, he was the highest grade and Kareem Hunt was back for the first time, so that's why we included him. Alright, number two. 74.6. 74.6. Who scored a 74.6?


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[Assistant] Watson 74.6 or the panelist, right Steve? Survey says.


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[Assistant] You guys both going with Cooper and Baton, is everyone in agreement? Yeaah. So Steve, let's go to 195 here. You're on the first one. I can't imagine either of those guys creating in the 60s. Take it. Cooper was correct. Now what is the next one? Steve, you go right to the next one.


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[Assistant] We got two more offensive grades here. We have the lowest two on the list and we're gonna play guess who graded the lowest.


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[Assistant] What was this grade? It's like a 51. So it's not, it actually wasn't that bad. We would have called that right out.


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[Assistant] The Titans got a ton of pressure on Watson. The offensive line is not, uh.


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[Assistant] Zadarius, Denzel, Thornhill, and we got two right answers. It is Zadarius Smith. The next two on this list graded out one point apart. A 68.7 and a 67.7. Who got the 68?


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[Assistant] There were a couple players in between. I was trying to pick the ones that. Yeaah. And on defense.


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[Assistant] I got some super chats I want to read just so we get those out of the way now. And I know the last one I read bowl is going to get you off on a little tangent. So I want to remind people one more time. I know we just said it, but once again, it was so good. It has to be repeated.


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[Assistant] I'm just, I'm looking into it. All I'm telling you is that's what I got on the paper here. Use promo code LOCK for 50% off. We got some super chats here while we wait for Jerry Farrar to join us. And I'm going to end with the first one. So Kevin, I see yours. We're going to end with that cause it's going to set full off.


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[Assistant] Uh, first one comes from Wood Dog MTG. I was so thankful Sunday for Schwartz. Look how the Joe Woods defense melted down again with a big lead on Sunday. Go Browns, G. Bush. I'm drinking on that Kool-Aid too.


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[Assistant] Uh, cats are cool, says San Francisco plays Sunday night game, the week before we play them, doubt they'll flex our game, uh, PS with nuggets.


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[Assistant] Jordan Tarman says if the Browns end up going 6-1 into November, what do you think their overall record would be for the season? If they're 6-1 through 7 games, Final 10, real quick, around the horn, what's the record? 11-6.


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[Assistant] Go ahead, Mikey. Uh, we got two more. The first one's from simple. He says, you see a set, get hip to it, hashtag junkyard dogs. Uh, Pedro, I see your super chat Pedro. That's a topic coming up this week. So we're going to save that when we could dive deep into it.


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[Assistant] And the last super chat before we bring in our guest comes from Kevin Robinson. Boy, you got a few minutes if you want to go off on this, but he said.


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[Assistant] I heard on the radio this morning a new nickname for the defense.


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[Assistant] Breaking down the Browns win over the Titans going into depth on Deshaun Watson's performance. What makes this defense so unique and why Jim Schwartz was the perfect man to lead the Browns to the promised land defensively. And he's not on today, but he is back tomorrow.


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[Assistant] At Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse, we are going live from Cavs Media Day, myself, Brad Sellers, Earl, Anthony, Jason Lloyd, plus we have been promised a plethora of current Cavs players who will come sit down and talk to us throughout the afternoon. It'll be two hours of live Cavs content from Cavs Media Day, and that is taking place next Monday.


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[Assistant] If we're talking entourage, can I ask two entourage questions that me and my college buddies who binged that show about five times have always truly wondered? I just recently rewatched it. Okay.


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[Assistant] Okay, first, this one you will know. Okay. Are dramas cabs really that small?


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[Assistant] That's gonna make a lot of my college buddies happy. Uh, Jerry, I'm really curious.


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[Assistant] How did you guys settle on Bobby Flay to be the celebrity to steal Ari's wife? Because it's the perfect decision because he's so innocuous and like not a big name, but.


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[Assistant] No, I know, but like, compared to Ari in the show, Bobby Flay was the perfect casting choice to be the one to steal Ari's wife. How did Bobby Flay get chosen as that celebrity to steal Ari's wife?


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[Assistant] That's a big league right? Is it the big one with Jerry O'Connell and Julius Randall still? Or you added that league?


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[Assistant] We'll start with football. About the three quarterbacks from the illustrious 2004 draft class.


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[Assistant] We're very good, maybe not all the time, great small forwards, but Carmelo Anthony, Paul Pierce, Tracy McGrady. You gotta keep one, you gotta cut one, you gotta save one.


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[Assistant] This one is based not on their acting prowess, but their athletic prowess. So these are guys that you've worked with throughout your career based on their athletic prowess only. Okay. How about Wahlberg? Okay. Kevin Hart and Sakura.


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[Assistant] Three choices. So outside of Spumoni Gardens. Okay. Me and Bull put together a list of three of what we think could be the best pizzerias in New York City. So. In Brooklyn. Well, uh, one's not in Brooklyn. Totino's, Defara's, and Joe's on, uh, uh, Beakers, excuse me. Bleaker. What was the first one?


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[Assistant] I think they knew that the cap was headed where it's headed, and that played into it as well. And so it looked outsized at the time, as both point now, and it's not as outsized now as it was when he signed it. We're kind of doing the Nijoku topic now. I don't know if that was the... No, that's not. We're gonna come back to that.


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[Assistant] Nah, I don't think so. I, I, you know, let's wait and see how he plays on Sunday, but, uh,


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[Assistant] I know he hasn't played a ton of football on the field the last couple of years, but he's still been throwing.


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[Assistant] You know, it's not like he hasn't thrown a football. He's certainly been out on his own throwing, throwing the receivers, throwing the offseason.


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[Assistant] So it's not like he's coming back from surgery type thing where he wasn't able to throw.


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[Assistant] I think it's minor at this point, you know, let's wait and give it a game and see if it's anything more concerning after that.


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[Assistant] No, unfortunately no, actually I talked to him briefly after he did his scrum Wednesday, but it didn't come up, like it wasn't.


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[Assistant] The one thing I guess I would circle or flag on this is, you know,


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[Assistant] When they started reconstructing this offense.


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[Assistant] They didn't really want to expose Dashan to a lot of hits. Like the Jalen Hurts comparison came up as like...


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[Assistant] Don't really want that. Don't, we don't need that. We need more pocket to Sean throwing to Sean. Well that really hasn't been the case. It has not. He has run a lot through these first couple of games partly because he was struggling to throw the ball in the first two. So he has been moving a lot on his feet and I just wonder now with this if they try and get him back to, uh, obviously the line has to protect him.


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[Assistant] That, that does become a problem. Yeah, I don't know that you necessarily want to take it away. I just don't know that you want him running as much as he, he's been running a lot. He's still gonna run like


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[Assistant] It feels like they've had, and I don't have it in front of me. I probably should have looked it up. It feels like they've had a lot of called runs for him. A couple of games.


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[Assistant] I mean, they've had pressure from interior as well. Like it's not just the taggers. The guards of, you know, Betonio struggled at times. Wyatt has struggled at times. Like it's, it's coming from, there's leaks in the dam, but it's only a couple games.


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[Assistant] I think I mentioned Monday, he did not, I noticed Wyatt didn't have to help him as much in getting lined up. I think I said that on Monday's show. If I didn't, I did. So maybe he got in the playbook a little bit. Because it was noticeable, he was still helping, but it wasn't nearly as much as it was in Pittsburgh.


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[Assistant] And to that point, this is where the lineman had an adjustment to make coming off Jacoby last year because Jacoby was getting it out faster.


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[Assistant] And Deshawn wants to hold a little bit longer to make the big play. And the lineman...


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[Assistant] We're telling me it was with Jacoby, and it wasn't, this isn't a complaint, it was just an adjustment. It was 1001, 1002, the ball's out. With Deshaun, it's 1001, 1002, 1003, oh my god, where, where is it? Like what's going on here? Right, right. And so it's an adjustment for these guys to make, uhm, and you know, I think it's, that bears out a little bit in the numbers. Sure.


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[Assistant] Which is why they, which is why they gave them the contract they did. It's a supply and demand issue. Where there's just not a lot, if you want to move, if you didn't like the contract and you want to move on from them, what are you going to do? Austin Hooper couldn't run more than three yards without falling down.


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[Assistant] Two years ago he had the incredible catch at L.A. against the Chargers catching run touchdown. Last year it was the Bucs to send the game to overtime. Incredible catch in the end zone. He's good for two of those a year. He also dropped the


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[Assistant] But I will say at the owner's meetings in March, I was talking to another team just about the Browns and business and Deshaun fully guaranteed contract and everything. And the first name that got brought up, well, not just Deshaun, the Najoku contract. So other teams saw it and rolled their eyes at it.


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[Assistant] I just, I agree with Tim. Tim said it, not me. Tim said it. Hey, the play with Deshaun where he just turned around and panicked and threw it 15 yards behind him, as a quarterback, how does that happen? What happened there?


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[Assistant] Did you ever have one of those, not necessarily maybe turn around and throw it 15 yards behind you, but did you ever have a panic moment where you go back and watch it on film and go, oh god, that was bad.


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[Assistant] I understand there's not very many guys in the league that will, that are so good that you have to target that way, but...


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[Assistant] That's the first time I recall ever seeing it. He said he did it on his own, just to screw with them. The play clock was running down. He knew they couldn't snap it until they were set. Why don't we see that happen more often?


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[Assistant] But how many guys in the league truly command that type of attention? Like I can't believe you know, not many.


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[Assistant] Pick you back, I'll pick you back off that. Zach tweeted that Deshaun threw one pass, then he walked over to the trainer at the start of practice. Uh, that's not great. Zach is presuming that you have to get DTR prep to play. So this may be a little bit more than we thought. Oh boy.


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[Assistant] Injury report should be released, released while we're still on the show, around 12, 12.45.


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[Assistant] So it's a game they should win. What's the line? Is it three and a half? Two and a half. Two and a half? Oh, so it went down. Well, it's three and a half, wasn't it?


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[Assistant] I wonder where it's gonna go now with the Deshaun Watson news. Well, they may just pull it off the board. Yea, they might. Now at this point. I mean, it, it, if, if Lamar gets loose on the Browns.


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[Assistant] They're gonna be in trouble. If they can corral them are.


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[Assistant] The sense that we'll see less man too. Yeah, I'd be curious, did Tyvis mention, I know we're gonna talk about it here in a minute about like who did you want, who would you want to spy? Yeah, we're gonna talk about that later. What did Tyvis say?


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[Assistant] Okay, so Tyvis is saying don't play man, you're saying play man. My only point is, if you're going the Tyvis route and you're not going to play man, you can't really use Delpid as the spy. No you can't. Because you need him more. You do. At the back end. Yeaah. Yeaah, you would want a linebacker. And I don't know that I have, I don't know if there's a linebacker that I think can keep up with.


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[Assistant] I'm going back and forth on the list. Yeaah, I still don't know.


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[Assistant] No, there's not much tape. I do think, I do think it'll be the same offense, same place, same, I think it'll look very similar. Well, that was the reason that you drafted a guy like DTR. That's exactly right.


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[Assistant] To, to, to G's point earlier about we do what we do. Denzel Ward gets that side. Martin Emerson gets that side. They don't care who they're lining up against.


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[Assistant] He probably feels like his old self now. He's probably thinking, you know, now I got some momentum. Now I'm starting to, you know, this offense is starting to click with me. I'm starting to click with Stefanski.


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[Assistant] You know, I think you always want that running game that that guy is going to take the pressure off of you from a quarterback standpoint, but I think it's just more of Deshaun saying, all right, our best player is out.


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[Assistant] I've got to be better. You know, I have to be better in the passing game because obviously the running game is going to take a step back without one of the league's best backs out there in the backfield. So I got to be better as a quarterback. I got to get the ball out quicker. I got to make quicker decisions. I got to anticipate throws. I got to take care of the football. And I think that was probably his mindset going into that one.


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[Assistant] Man, that's a tough one. Uhm, you know, if I had to pick today, I'm taking, I'll probably take Lamar Jackson just because I've seen such a, you know, much more of a body of work out of Lamar. And, uh, you know, I know kind of what he's going to give me. Deshaun, you know, since we've seen him come back from the suspension, it's just been so inconsistent, so up and down.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think that's a great point, Jay. It is going to be a much different type of test for this defense. And obviously, you know, the first three games, what we've seen on the defensive side of the ball has been unbelievable. They're playing at a historic pace right now. You know, they're shutting teams down like we haven't seen before.


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[Assistant] Good situations and I think that's what great coaches do and J.L.K. is playing great football. You know, I think I saw a stat earlier this week where I think last year said he missed


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[Assistant] Uh, certain percentage of tackles, maybe 14% of, uh, missed tackles throughout, uh, throughout the season. This year it's like down to seven, so he's cut that in half. He's much more of a, a sure tackler and, you know, I think like he said, that has a lot to do with his instincts and he's being in the right place, he's being put in the right, uh, situation. So,


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[Assistant] Yeah, you know, I think it is kind of that's where, you know, each coach comes in, they have their style, they have their system that they've ran for, you know, however many years they've been a coach and it's what they believe in. So when they come in, you know, I think, you know, obviously everyone tries to do, you know, put, put guys in certain situations to, to help them out, to make plays, to be their best version of themselves.


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[Assistant] Uh, but some coaches just do it better than others. Some coaches come up with better schemes. You know, that's why they, you know, we get elite coaches and we get coaches that are just okay. You know, it's just like a player, you know, just some, some guys are coming in or much better coming into designing these things.


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[Assistant] One on one when he can in pass rush situations, it's, it's taken miles game to another level as well. So he's done a great job with everybody on that defense and it's, it's been great to see and you know, but like Jay mentioned earlier, this, this week's going to be a much different test for those guys. So we'll, we'll see, uh, how, how they go and perform against Lamar Jackson that, that Ravens offense.


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[Assistant] You know, they're, they're both difficult in their own way, but I think for me not being the most mobile type of guy, I think it was that, that, you know, getting penetration, getting pressure on the quarterback. I think, you know, if you get to most quarterbacks in this league, you know, other than your Lamar Jackson's and the guy who can really get out of the pocket and really extend plays with their legs, you know, a guy like me who was a, you know, a true pocket passer.


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[Assistant] The miles motion, yeaah. I'm sure maybe they put that in the defense now just to confuse guys. But you know, so he goes in motion and two guys just go with him and you know, I, you know, I've never seen that before. So that was new to me.


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[Assistant] And all of a sudden the guy, you know, you have two of your blockers move to the other side. It kind of screws up, you know, your protection scheme and everything like that and who your reads or your hot routes are, side adjustments are as a quarterback and wide receivers as well. So it requires a lot of communication with those guys, you know, when Miles moves around like that and you have, you know, your offensive line.


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[Assistant] It definitely messes with defenses and I think that we'll probably see a lot more of that now going forward now that, you know, we've seen how much that does truly affect an offensive scheme.


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[Assistant] And it's not there, you know, you don't have to force that. It's okay to come back, check the ball down. If the running back breaks the tackle and gets you a first down, you extend the drive. That's great. But also, you know, in the back of your mind, if you have to punt the football, it's not such a bad thing because you're probably going to get it right back.


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[Assistant] That's very comforting as a quarterback to know you have that, um, you know, that, that defense that you can rely on and you don't have to go out and score, you know, like you said, 35 points, you know, you know, the defense is probably going to make it a low scoring game. So.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think, I think Kentucky is, uh, you know, we've had a lot of success against Florida over the last five or six years. You know, all the games have been really tight, been really close, but if I'm not mistaken, I think Kentucky has won three out of the last five games against Florida.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, that's not a new thing, right? That's been the dynamic we've been dealing with since day one. If people like the PFF grades, if it matches what they want to see, if it says their favorite player is great, it's the best thing out there. It's the source. It's where we want to talk about. And then as soon as it goes the other way,


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[Assistant] And your favorite player is grading badly or something that you didn't want to happen is showing up in the grades. Ah, they don't know what they're doing. Like, PFF's not in the room. They don't know the play call. All that kind of thing. So, you know, this is not a new development, but uhm.


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[Assistant] I mean really, the idea of the grading is to just quantify the stuff that, that we talk about but don't actually try and put numbers to, right? So going through the tape.


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[Assistant] Play by play and recording did a guy do a good job, a bad job or something in the middle and call it a wash and move on.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and yeaah, there's gonna be plays where it's impossible to know, you know, the exact assignment if you're not in that meeting room and you don't know a specific switch or a specific call. But I think that's a very small percentage of plays, generally speaking.


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[Assistant] Everybody is running an outside zone play. Everybody is running an inside zone play. You know, there are coverages that look the same, uh, team to team to team.


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[Assistant] And you can generally tell from what, you know, 10 guys are doing what the 11th guy should be doing. So I think overall, simply the exercise and going through and trying to document and quantify all these things is way more valuable than the margin for error that is created by the fact that it can never be perfect if you're outside of that meeting room.


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[Assistant] It's not the lowest grade ever, but Dan Moore's grade, it's funny, like, Steelers fans sometimes act like Dan Moore is, you know, the worst left tackle in the NFL. Dan Moore's grade when he's not facing Miles Garrett is like 66 or something like that, so it's average, slightly above average even.


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[Assistant] And then when he faces Myles Garrett, it's 18 point something for his NFL career. So this is a guy that gets turned into one of the worst tackles in football when he has to go up against Myles Garrett. And when that doesn't happen, he's perfectly serviceable as a left-hack.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, we know that old school statistics are a bad way of measuring things, right? We all know this on a case by case basis, but when it stacks up in your favor, you tend to forget that. Like, we know that sacks are not a particularly good way of measuring pass rush, it's


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[Assistant] Even an elite player, we're talking 20 plays over a thousand snaps in a season, right? The kind of margin for error in there is crazy, particularly when you know sacks are not all created equal. Some of them are great plays.


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[Assistant] Some of them, you know, Michael Strahan broke the record because Brett Favre slid down in front of him and gave him a sack, right? That's, that counts exactly the same as the best sack you've ever seen in your life where a guy beats, you know, a double team, splits it at the line, gets on top of the quarterback and...


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[Assistant] One and a half seconds and make that play. So we know sacks or interceptions are not necessarily the best stats in the world and the bigger a sample size you can create


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[Assistant] We look at every single pass rushing snap and we're grading every single pass rushing snap and sometimes those are going to generate sacks and forced fumbles and those splash plays and sometimes they're not.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but they all count, you know, they're all making an impact on the game, even if it's not necessarily getting rewarded by those high impact, high leverage plays. Generally speaking, both those guys are incredible pass rushes, right? TJ Watt, Miles Garrett,


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[Assistant] Either one of them is an all pro caliber guy, either one of them is a defensive player of the year, caliber guy.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but over their careers, TJ Watt has tended to get a few more splash plays, those sacks, force fumbles, interceptions, than Miles Garrett gets, and Miles Garrett has tended to win.


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[Assistant] A little bit more consistently and a little bit more on average, you know, on a given pass rushing rep, right? And it's where that balance lies. How much credit do you give the guy for making the more impact plays versus how much credit do you give the guy for


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[Assistant] And, you know, I don't know that there's necessarily a correct answer to that question, but that's the dynamic that you're playing with between those two.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a lot of people and a lot of, you know, man hours go into this. Uhm, we, as soon as, we're able to do the grading, uhm, during games, so we don't have to wait until things stop, we don't have to wait, we have a hook in with tape supply, we're able to get a full,


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[Assistant] Can go through and do, uh, you know, pass rushing versus pass protection. One person can do coverage versus receiving. One person can do run blocking versus run defense. Uh, and all these things can be going on concurrently and to try and get everything done as quickly as possible.


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[Assistant] We kind of pack it to be there for these, for the analysts to then come in after and actually start putting grades and final numbers to all these things.


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[Assistant] In theory, everybody wants to try and isolate, you know, each individual player from everything that's going on around them. And to an extent, that's what the grades are trying to do. But football is so interdependent. Everything has three or four or five confounding factors that go into it. So when you're trying to isolate the play of just Nick Chubb, the running back, you know, you can factor in what the offensive line does for him.


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[Assistant] But I think you start to see when you take him out of the lineup the impact that he has on the offensive line as well. And you're right, it's going to be significant. It's still a good offensive line. It's still doing a good job. A guy like Dewan Jones coming in, he's been fantastic in terms of pass protection.


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[Assistant] Still has a ways to go in terms of run blocking. So it's not quite the way it was last year.


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[Assistant] But you see that Nick Chubb can turn a good, a well blocked play by everybody out front. Nick Chubb can make that into something spectacular. And the guys they have at the moment...


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[Assistant] In pretty much every facet of play, every position you can think of, it isn't just what that player brings to the table, it's the impact, the knock-on effect that he has on the players that surround him or other elements of the game, whether it's offense or defense.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I think it depends on the player, I think it depends on their representation in terms of what they're bringing to the table to argue their case, you know, how they're...


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[Assistant] They're kind of trying to negotiate. Uhm, I think it's involved in every negotiation, right? On probably both sides of the equation. The agents are using it and here's the data that makes our guy look good. Here's why you should pay him.


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[Assistant] And then teams are fighting back with, well here's the data that says he isn't good or that we can get the same production from somebody else or whatever. You know, I don't think we're...


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[Assistant] We're sort of actively involved in these things, but I think pretty much every negotiation that takes place, there's PFF data uhm, backing up probably both sides of the argument.


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[Assistant] I think Baker's been, this is the best version we've seen since before he was injured in Cleveland, you know, when we thought he was going to take that step forward and be, and really be their answer as a franchise quarterback. Uhm, his career had kind of fallen apart over the last couple of years.


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[Assistant] A lot of what's happened in Tampa Bay so far this season has been the offense and the scheme and the play calling and kind of putting him in a pretty good position to succeed, but he's been taking advantage of that. You know, he's been hitting the open guys. He's been taking the open first read and getting the ball where it needs to go.


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[Assistant] But the last couple of weeks, I think he started to add to that as well. He's not just taking what's there and sort of managing the offense. He's actually bringing some plays to the table as well. And I think now we're starting to see Baker adding value on top of what's still a very good offense, a very good scheme and a very good play calling setup.


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[Assistant] And that's kind of giving them, I think, some real impetus to move forward and to develop as an offense. I think this is, if you're a Bucks fan, I think it's pretty exciting because I think you're starting to see


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[Assistant] Baker get back to being the player that we thought he was before everything went off the rails.


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[Assistant] Just wasn't that guy, you know, whether it was Russ, whether it was a new environment, whatever.


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[Assistant] He, he looks pretty rough last season. I think Jacoby Brissette was a better quarterback than Deshaun Watson last year.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then this year the big question was, well, was it just Rust? Are we going to see him get back to being the player he was?


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[Assistant] And that hasn't happened yet either, but I think you're right. We started to see signs that maybe he started to turn that corner and put it together a little bit more. I think we've seen fewer mistakes from him this year.


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[Assistant] It's just a case of how long it takes him to cross that gap, to bridge that gap to where he used to be, and whether he can get back all the way.


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[Assistant] Yeah, and one thing, when you're four games into a season, the sample size is really small, and in particular for safeties, it's going to be swayed by, you know, big defensive plays. So, Jesse Bates, right, had those two interceptions against, uh, rookie, uhm,


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[Assistant] That I don't think that there is a consistent, this guy is the best player at that position in the league and that's what it's going to be for the next five, six years. It's going to change year to year. And a guy like Delpert, like this might be his season.


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[Assistant] Yeah, yeah, those are graded differently because they're very different plays, right? That's part of the difference between grading, uhm,


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[Assistant] The process grading the thing that the player actually did and the results of that play, you know, if we just wanted to assign credit for the results of any given play.


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[Assistant] You don't need the tape. You can just work from the box score, right? You can work from the play by play. You don't actually need to dive in and see.


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[Assistant] Well, this was a screenplay, right? Like last night is a good example in a couple of different ways. Uh, Drew Locke throws a simple outroute, right? And the entire Giants defense stops playing.


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[Assistant] And that slap, or that outright rather turns into a 50 yard touchdown play, right? Nothing Drew Lock did created that 50 yard touchdown play other than simply deliver the ball into the hands of the guy that was only a few yards away in terms of air yards. It's a routine play.


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[Assistant] But the result changes dramatically after the fact. So, Drew Lock's grade doesn't change because


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[Assistant] You had to make a cut to make sure that he wouldn't get chased down from behind, so.


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[Assistant] The fact that he scored, the fact that he did execute that return and get into the end zone gives him a little bit of a bump in grade, but he doesn't get a boost.


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[Assistant] It doesn't get graded as an incredible play in coverage from an interception standpoint because it is thrown directly to him. So there's always in our grading, there's nuance between, you know, when a play was qualitatively very good versus when he just got kind of lucky and the result of the play is very good.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's mixed up. Number one, because it's broken down into those specific processes, right? So you're not simply grading, uhm, you know, one side of the ball the whole way or even one, uhm,


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[Assistant] Those kind of accidental biases that could creep in. Not necessarily because a guy is a raging Browns fan or whatever, right? But because one guy might have a slight tendency to lean in a certain direction on these specific plays.


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[Assistant] But if you're mixing that all up and everybody is kind of cross grading various things, you're not skewing any one data set by one guy being slightly off, you know, that straight and narrow path of what the optimal grading is.


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[Assistant] That is a potential, that's a challenge, right, is how you keep that large number of people all on the same page when it comes to grading these things. Well, one of the ways to offset that is to try and mix it in and to try and cross, uhm,


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[Assistant] Cross-grade as much as humanly possible so that all those potential, uh, frayed edges or extremes get pulled back together to the center.


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[Assistant] Uhm, a quarterback that takes a lot of sacks and by taking a lot of sacks, I mean ones that he is sort of responsible for.


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[Assistant] Uh, more than just i-is involved in an offense that gets sacked a lot. So, they've been responsible for a couple of them each, and obviously for DTR that's a higher percentage or a higher rate than Deshaun Watson because of playing time.


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[Assistant] But I think they've, they've been, uh, they've been sacked at times when it hasn't been their fault. So they're not, you know, at that Sam Howell end of the spectrum where they are making this thing look an awful lot worse than it's been.


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[Assistant] Uh, and are taking tons of sacks that aren't on the offensive line at all. They're contributing to it a little bit. And as I say, Watson will skew in that direction. Uhm, but if anything, I think it's more...


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[Assistant] The blocking job of the offensive line more difficult because they simply have to pass protect for longer. The ball's not coming out in 2.3 seconds every single play. It's coming out in 3 seconds every single play more or less and that I think is the biggest area where they're contributing to the sacks. They're just sort of


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[Assistant] Increasing the difficulty rating that these offensive linemen have to work with.


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[Assistant] There's some good games. I mean, a Sunday without a Browns game to me though is about a four. Yeaah. A Sunday with a Browns game is a ten.


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[Assistant] They've met the playoffs the last two years, both times. It was like Groundhog Day. Both times Dallas had it deep in San Francisco territory late in the game with a chance to win it, and both times they failed. So we'll see what happens this time around.


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[Assistant] Dallas is a good team. I think this is a real nice yardstick game for them. See where they really stand. And it takes you back to the old days.


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[Assistant] Can we mention, can we mention G's wardrobe for a second? Why is he dressed like he's going to a Playboy party? Very simple. We're on WKYC 3 today at 12.30. So here's the deal, if you want to see that 30 minute exclusive content, you've got to get it on Channel 3.


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[Assistant] If you don't know how to do that, it's very simple. If you're in the Cleveland area, you just turn your TV on to channel three. You all know where it is. If you're outside the Cleveland area, we know we have a lot of viewers. David in Australia. Yep. India.


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[Assistant] I believe it. I believe it. But if you're outside the Cleveland area, it's very simple. You can either go to WKYC.com, click the watch tab. Or, my recommendation is, it's super easy. You just put the WKYC Plus app on any smart TV, phone, device, whatever. I don't know if they're available for phone actually. It's just the WKYC.


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[Assistant] Or is that something that people just say? No. I don't know that, I don't think that's true. So, I don't know about McDonald's, but I know many nuggets. What it is, is it's the parts they can't use elsewhere. Alright. It's like the hot dog. It's snouts and hooves. I hear you. Hey, don't let that ear and nose go to waste. Grind it up, put it in a sleeve.


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[Assistant] The worst McNuggets I've ever had. Well, speaking of McNuggets, he has been working now for about four weeks on what he's calling the most intensive, complete deep dive in the history of offensive line play since Noah. I think that's what you're calling it.


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[Assistant] You're going to be stunned just how bad some of it is. So that's a little tease for that. Jonathan Taylor, do you trade for them?


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[Assistant] Do you maybe try to fix another position like left tackle or somewhere else? We're going to talk about that. Sean Porter of Boxing Fame wants to talk Browns. We want to hear him do it and also keep cut trade.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I've heard everything. I wouldn't go to Outback Steakhouse. I'm just saying. No, just anywhere. Their food prices, they're crazy? It's nuts. Why? For a standard run-of-the-mill restaurant for two people to eat, I'm told it's a hundred US dollars. Oh yeah. And if you go to a premium restaurant, you can double that.


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[Assistant] Yeah, it's a tourist trap, obviously. Uh, but alright, we're gonna dive into, uh, this notion that there is something brewing


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[Assistant] On the Browns, about the Shawn Watson deciding at the last minute, really.


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[Assistant] I don't necessarily want to say you get mad when they are. I mean, that is what it is. My thing is...


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[Assistant] No, I know that was his objective, but I'm wondering from your, from your vantage point, do you feel that his answer was suffice and that if there was any thought that there could be friction, that he


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[Assistant] Kevin was just telling the truth and now we're gonna kill him for telling the truth. His MO is he doesn't say anything. No, you're right. And so I think the reason all of us kind of went, wow, wait a minute, what did he say?


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[Assistant] Is it fair for the players to have some animus towards Dashawn for not playing? Is that fair?


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[Assistant] Guys are pissed. And that's, I think that's the most important thing is that their frustration was real. And to your point, I feel too, warranted to some degree. The big question is what's the carryover effect going to be? We talked about the timing of the buy yesterday.


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[Assistant] When the schedule came out, we didn't love that it was early. Correct. I still don't. When you look at it from a timing standpoint,


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[Assistant] Who knows? Watson may have been ready to go Sunday anyhow. It did give him a little extra time to get ready for what most will agree is the toughest game on their schedule this year.


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[Assistant] But the reason I think all of this timing stinks is because they've got two weeks to sit on that and let that fester and they can't wash that