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[Assistant] A lot different than other bands is as we got older and as we all like a ton of different things, a ton of different things. And yeah, I definitely still listen to hardcore but listen to a million different things. You guys have a lot of


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[Assistant] We, incendiary plays a certain style of music, and so we play that style of music. And what happens with people like our age that like,


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[Assistant] Weird, like, uhm, internal battle with themselves where it's like,


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[Assistant] Oh man, like I just discovered like all these new bands, like shoegaze bands and like electronic bands and stuff and like we should do this and like we should change it up. With all that it was just like, yeah, we like that too, but like incendiary plays this kind of music. And so we always just played the same kind of music instead of being like,


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I'm like, I'm over this man, like let's get some keyboards and stuff, like, which is what happens is because so many people that play hardcore are just like not comfortable with themselves. It's like a lot of people who are like can't find their identity, they can't feel comfortable.


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[Assistant] For whatever reason, the five of us are always just like, yeah, this is like what we're into. Like none of us are like the crazy guys with like,


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[Assistant] Narrow-minded. Not that much room to grow. Of course, right? And then it's just like, oh man, we gotta like, do this, and they put out a whack record, shit sucks, and they break up.


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[Assistant] Instead, we were just like, why don't we just try to like refine what we're doing?


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[Assistant] The world doesn't need to know the kind of music that I like, that Rob likes, that Brian likes. Like, it's okay that like, Dan listens to a lot of jazz and shit, and we don't have it like, influenced in our record. That's like, something that's so lost in so many bands, because...


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[Assistant] Lost with that. They just try to put out some new stuff and like evolve and it's like, it just sucks. Just play the shit that your band plays but make it better. Just that little sort of way of thinking.


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[Assistant] Is the reason why we're still a band, because we don't try to do weird shit and I don't try to like, Brendan's gonna sing, we're gonna incorporate all these things because we've been really listening to a lot of Depeche Mode and like, it's really affected me in a profound way and like, no.


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[Assistant] I think unless that you are like incredibly insanely talented, like a cave-in or something where you can like make these pivots. No, I think it's like a failure.


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[Assistant] Look at this kind of music. You mentioned like the ceiling and shit, which you're like, you're spot on, right? So like if you become like a bigger hardcore band, where do you go? Right? And so,


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[Assistant] It's tough for a lot of bands, like what, what do you do, what do you sound like once you try to get on like Warped Tour or something like that.


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[Assistant] How are you gonna make yourself, how are you gonna get past that ceiling of hardcore music? Which has a very finite ceiling, right? You have like Hatebreed, who was just able to go way past it. Every other band in the world is just like right here. So all these bands that are like doing it for a career are trying to figure out how do we get past this one level.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but also like, agreed. But if this, if we were like getting into some other shit, we would just like, do another band. Instead of being like,


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[Assistant] Some of these things that people do now is like, just start another band. Like, we don't, I don't know. Sometimes what happens is you play, and if you get to a certain level of like, marginal fucking success, it's not like we're-


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[Assistant] I don't know, some of these other things that everyone is so stressed out and so like uncomfortable in their own skin. And you mentioned about like hardcore and he said it's like, yea hardcore it's like


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[Assistant] Maybe a juvenile kind of music, right? Like, a lot of people grow out of it. But what happens if you just kind of accept it for what it is and kind of just kind of turn it into your own take on it? You grow a little bit, you make it a little more refined, you refine your music, you refine your songs, you work on having things be less about sort of violence and more about


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[Assistant] You know, lyrically driven from a live show perspective. There's something to be said for that as opposed to being like, okay, we did the two whatever records now we need to like put out. We need to add in singing. We need to add in more poppier stuff. I've never felt driven to do that. I don't know if it's because of like a lack of like,


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[Assistant] Business drive, because we don't need to worry about that, but I don't know, it doesn't


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[Assistant] Uh, like what people from that era of your life like thinking you now.


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[Assistant] Uh, it's become very social driven for me. So one of the things that I've realized is


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[Assistant] To me, I see the value in now, and like I'm so thankful for meeting all of these people. So I know people from Cali, I know people from Europe, I know people from Japan, all around the world. And, and it, something about that is like really, really interesting because


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[Assistant] I'll talk to, you know, people at my job or something and maybe they're not from New York and they'll meet people or they're trying to meet people and be like, I'm having a, you know, I don't really know that many people in New York or I don't have that many friends. And like, I can't relate to that. Like I know so many people, not because I'm so cool. I know so many people solely because of this music. So to answer your question, it's evolved into being like,


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[Assistant] You know, walking into a show at 33 as I did when I was 16, like, it's a little bit different, and I acknowledge the shortcomings of the style of music, but like, there are still a lot of great people that are


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[Assistant] Evolve to come under the general sort of umbrella of New York hardcore. But it's something that we all grew up in and all take seriously and all looked up to a lot of bands that


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[Assistant] So you know, you know like when you meet people that are like, you met them when they were kids and they like have a mohawk and then they get super into like rave music and then they get super into like,


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[Assistant] All of these questions that everyone's asking, or like that always ask us, especially with this new record coming out, it's kind of the same thing for you, it's like, you still ride BMX, you're still down with it, and it's like yeaah, it's kind of like what you're into, like, because you've, you have always been kind of like a headstrong person, where it's like, oh I'm like into, I'm like down with what I'm into, like,


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[Assistant] It's, that's what it is with us. It's just like, we're just the same dudes. I don't mean that we haven't evolved since 1998. I just mean like, yeah, we're just like, we're into this and like, I don't think any of us are like, searching for something.


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[Assistant] It's all sort of cyclical, and it's also just like the alternative sort of genres just becoming mainstream, where like everything is mainstream. Like BMX is in a subculture, it's like BMX can be like blown, it's just like whatever, right? It's just like how skateboarding is the most like, narked out quote unquote subculture, it's just like-


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[Assistant] Regina Spector. What the fuck is that? Isolates. Good shit, man. Oh, alright. I don't know. 1975. If she was listening to that.


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[Assistant] So alright, it's all like a big inner circle. This is what I think is so cool. So Jaco's a Navy SEAL. He like now has like a company that like talks about leadership skills and everything. So he was a Navy SEAL. Then he went on Rogan's podcast. Rogan was like, you should do your own podcast. So Jaco has his own podcast about just like being a


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[Assistant] A type A, you know, just a crushing life. Seal Team Six, the hardest motherfucker on earth. So then, so then Harley knows Jaco because Harley does jiu jitsu. And all of those dudes know each other through jiu jitsu.


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[Assistant] So then Harley posts something like, Jocko's gonna sing some songs with us, uh, at Sound of Fury.


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[Assistant] No, we often, I mean, I'm trying to think.


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[Assistant] Dude, I, I went, so I went to UNH from 2002 to 2006, University of New Hampshire. The Wildcats.


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[Assistant] This is, this is what happens in hardcore. You have the people who are like pure aggression and they want to hear pit rifts and they want to fight and, and there's that on one end of the spectrum. And then there is the true progressive sort of, you know, uh, food, not bombs at the table, 90s vegan straight edge stuff. But don't you think the social justice world


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[Assistant] Yeah, I mean, like, it's kinda coming back a little bit, but you have these two different things, and a lot of times people are so baffled, like, why are there all these problems with, like, it's because these, these two fundamental things, it's like, very much like, almost like a Republican-Democrat kinda thing, like, so,


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[Assistant] I'll see people who have kind of like conservative values and hardcore and shit and like to me that like blows my fucking mind. Because I'm a little bit more of the former rather than the latter. Former being like, you know, food not bombs, pan flips, progressive, liberal agenda. Rather than like, my parents got divorced, I'm pissed off. Right.


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[Assistant] You know, just like the, the rest of the world. Like to me, being involved in like punk and hardcore was like you were putting yourself outside of it. And then you have a lot of people who are like a part of the sort of like,


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[Assistant] But that happens a lot, I mean you have both of the sides because it's aggressive music and you get aggressive people and you get shitheads and you get people who are down to fight and brawl and that's a part of hardcore.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm, like, if you talk to some of the, uh, legends, quote-unquote, of hardcore, they're not exactly Mr. Liberal. No.


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[Assistant] Duh, right? So then you have that, and then you have on the other end of the spectrum, the earth crisis of the world and all that shit, and all of it is sort of like at


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[Assistant] Come to a head a little bit. I mean, you can see it even now, right? Can't you? I mean, like,


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[Assistant] We, I mean, I'm personally like, if you are preaching kind of like the mainstream narrative in hardcore and trying to bring that to hardcore and posting things about like,


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[Assistant] Whatever, I, just whatever it is, Hillary's emails, stuff like that, it's like I don't, I don't fuck with that at all because you're just like the dude who works at the gas station in middle America, USA. But the Trump, the Trump can-


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[Assistant] As I think of it, like, being like, having sort of conservative values and then being into punk and hardcore, to me, those are like, at odds with one another. So it's like a, you know, I don't know, they don't make sense, right? And then you have people who are focused on that still and


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[Assistant] Are, are sort of marrying the two different things, and I...


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[Assistant] You know, that's what happens, I guess. Right? Like, you have people who are from two different schools of thoughts, both being involved in the same subculture, where one wouldn't expect a certain group of people to be involved in that.


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[Assistant] But this shit gets, again, put out into the world, and then people figure it out on their own ways, and they interpret it in their own ways. I mean, it's always gonna happen, but like, yea, I'll see some shit, and I'm just like, damn. Yea, that dude's into hardcore, and he's like writing shit on that.


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[Assistant] Variables in hardcore, like you always had the like...


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[Assistant] I don't know the difference, like what's the difference between eTown Concrete and fucking, I don't know, like on the other hand, like Lifetime or something like that, or like, that you always had those- Just attitude, right? Yeah, it's just like, it was a microcosm for the rest of the world, like you had people who, and also like the,


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[Assistant] The, the sort of the liberat- the neo-libertarian mindset, which is like kinda clown shit, but like, it still is pervasive and it's also like, stay the fuck away from me, I'm gonna figure out my own path. Like, I don't want the government involved in anything that I do. So that includes being pro-gun, that includes being a part of a lot of things.


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[Assistant] In some ways I do understand how that's like a punk mentality because it's like anything where you're forging your own path and you're going against the grain of


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[Assistant] Uhm, what you feel like the narrative is in mainstream media and mainstream society is something that's important. I mean, I don't see how punk relates to that, but I do understand where like that


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[Assistant] So we have a song that's like, that I wrote that I take full responsibility for that's like, vehemently anti-gun. And some people might be super...


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[Assistant] No, like, that's cool, but like, so I have that on one side and then I have people who I know, like, are completely against that being like, oh your record's awesome.


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[Assistant] The two things can exist harmoniously, but every time you see things pop up, it's usually because of that. But I've learned to respect that. I think maybe when I was like a little shithead kid, I'd be like,


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[Assistant] Way more social justice, but now I get that, like, there are two sides to every coin, but you can see how, my point is, you can see how both sides feed into, like, that independence.


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[Assistant] I think he's probably has super rich parents, I bet he's like a little, I bet he's like a little bitch.


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[Assistant] I think there are dudes who are trying to get, they want to be popular and famous at all costs. It's like Cassandra, right? It's like I want to be at a certain level of like clout, let's use that word for a double entendre, uh, no matter what. So it's like I don't care where I'm at, I just want to be like a voice.


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[Assistant] No, it's like, uh, no, not anymore. I don't care.


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[Assistant] It's uh, it's a very Mark Zuckerberg thing, honestly. You know how his whole shit is like, you're just, you're yourself. They, like, Facebook pushes that from like a tech perspective. Like, if they were the leaders of like, you should be yourself no matter


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[Assistant] What you are, uh, which I think is kind of interesting. They like push that. I'm talking about from like an HR perspective.


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[Assistant] They were the ones who have really forced that into like the marketplace of being like you or yourself no matter what. They don't hire people with Facebook that do like weird shit like that where it's like you try to like have different things, you know, post so they have whole things about like we should go on your Facebook, we should go on your social media, blah blah blah. Uhm, but yea, like I just don't really talk about it just because it's like, I don't know.


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[Assistant] No, it's not that, I just like, I'm like, I know, uh, I just, I focus on my career. It's really more about, uhm, thinking that I would come off as a flake. That's really what the big thing is.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I don't know, uh, I just like, I don't wanna like,


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[Assistant] I like doing everything. Expansion in all ways.


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[Assistant] It's like, I try to get into wine, I try to drink fucking, all these guys drink vodka soda, I fucking hate it. So all I try to do is drink vodka soda, I can't stand it. All I want is beer.


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[Assistant] If you're in the no, it's gramazon. Which do you identify with?


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[Assistant] You know what's funny? You could tell that your parents really set you on your career for hip hop. Because they rhymed it like that. Exactly. And they knew that you would interview 17 year old SoundCloud rappers and crush it. Who?


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[Assistant] How many people, do you realize how old the first like three seasons of Real World were? Cause I think Real World, the first one Real World New York was like 92.


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[Assistant] Yeaah, I mean they still play. Uhm, let me ask you a question, Adam. If you had to guess what I do my crosswords in, what would you say? You'd probably do them in pen.


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[Assistant] Have you ever seen like some of the shit online with just like the connection just like


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[Assistant] Plays Texas. Next day, you should come to Texas.


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[Assistant] I'm happy to be here again, amongst the monks, to be amongst the monks.


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[Assistant] Yeah, you've been so much blessed. I didn't, I didn't hear, I don't think I, I don't think I heard about Lord Rama until


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[Assistant] I joined the devotees, which means I was 20, 21 years old.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there was a, there was a strong religious orientation in Protestant Christian tradition.


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[Assistant] But I was, uh, understanding that there's, there's some higher reality from, you know, from very early, I would say. And, uh, I had some kind of attraction, some vague attraction to,


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[Assistant] To religious life and then spiritual life and then.


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[Assistant] In my early college days, I became attracted to yoga teachings.


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[Assistant] And then I heard about bhakti, bhakti yoga.


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[Assistant] And I immediately thought, aha, I think I've found what I'm looking for.


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[Assistant] I actually met devotees in America first, but I didn't, I didn't interact with them.


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[Assistant] Uh, I saw them and heard them at my university. They would have kirtan every day in uhm, on the, on the streets in the open area.


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[Assistant] Just, just next to the main entrance to the University Park area.


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[Assistant] But it was in Germany that I first interacted with devotees.


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[Assistant] Well, I thought we should, uh, we should hear first, uh, Sri Jayadev Goswami's


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[Assistant] And then I thought we could go to also one of the prayers in the ninth kanto, which is interesting because it gives benediction and it describes


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[Assistant] Keshavadhritta ragupati rupa jaya jagadishahare.


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[Assistant] And I have a translation here. You scattered.


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[Assistant] In all directions, all ten directions,


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[Assistant] To the deities of the various quarters, east, west, and so on. Oh, Keshava, you took the form of Rama.


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[Assistant] So it's interesting, uh, Dasamukha Mauli Balim, Ramaniya, uh, his 10 heads were offered


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[Assistant] As an offering to the uh, to the directional uh, divinities.


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[Assistant] Well, this is kind of a bigger topic, especially in relation to Ramlila. Uh, we can maybe talk more about it later, but.


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[Assistant] Uh, there are so many versions of Ram Leela. And...


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[Assistant] We can, we can say, of course, we can say, well, the only really bona fide is Valmiki Ramayana.


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[Assistant] And so there can be variations. Oh beautiful.


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[Assistant] And, uh, the variations of course can also, one can invoke, uh, Kalpa, Beda, Nyaya. We can say in different Kalpas, the variations appear. That would be one way, one way to say it.


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[Assistant] But let's, uh, let's now go to a verse in the Bhagavad Gita. Which verse in the Bhagavad Gita, 9? Canto 9, chapter 10, verse 4.


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[Assistant] And I like to read the Sanskrit, if I may, because it's, uh, it's one of the longer, uh, meters. I don't remember. Shagdara maybe.


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[Assistant] So Guruvarthi Chaktharaja.


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[Assistant] Vyachara dhanuvanam padmapadbhyam priyaya.


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[Assistant] To keep the promise of his father intact.


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[Assistant] And accompanied by his wife, Mother Sita, wandered from one forest to another on his lotus feet.


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[Assistant] Which were so delicate that they were unable to bear even the touch of Sita's palms.


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[Assistant] The Lord was also accompanied by Hanuman, King of the monkeys, or by another monkey Sugriva and by his own younger brother, Lord Lakshmana, both of whom gave him relief.


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[Assistant] From the fatigue of wandering in the forest.


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[Assistant] Having cut off the nose and ears of Shurpanaka, dust is figuring her.


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[Assistant] The Lord was separated from Mother Sita. He therefore became angry.


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[Assistant] Moving his eyebrows and thus frightening the ocean.


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[Assistant] Who then allowed the Lord to construct a bridge to cross the ocean.


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[Assistant] Subsequently, the Lord entered the kingdom of Raavana to kill him like a fire devouring a forest. May that Supreme Lord Ramachandra give us all protection.


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[Assistant] Quite an extensive description of the pastime.


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[Assistant] With a few details which could also be discussed, uhm, and it's interesting just to consider


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[Assistant] The Bhagavatam version of Ramalila, uhm, you know, the fact that it's, uhm,


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[Assistant] Relative to, let's say, Vamiki Ramayana. It's extremely short. It's two chapters. And Shukadeva Goswami.


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[Assistant] In the beginning says to Maharasprachit, I'm just going to give you a short summary because you already are familiar with the stories.


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[Assistant] So it's assumed one can say not only that,


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[Assistant] Any reader of the Bhagavatam is familiar. Similar to


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[Assistant] Uh, sequel to the Mahabharata with some overlap also of


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[Assistant] Later portions of the Mahabharata and of course, very much summarizing.


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[Assistant] With the Mahabharata, and that's what gives, uh, significance to the, to the Bhagavatam, uh, sequel and summary.


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[Assistant] Because one's already familiar with it and now one gets, you know, the,


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[Assistant] particular perspective, which can also be considered a kind of commentary, uh, to the Mahabharata. And now in the ninth canto,


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[Assistant] We can also take these two chapters as kind of commentary on the Ramayana of Valmiki.


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[Assistant] Shridhar Swami's commentary on the Gita is often quite brief for certain verses. For other verses, he elaborates more, but sometimes it's short.


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[Assistant] Yes, and Prabhupada mentioned that once.


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[Assistant] In my memory it was, uh, in a talk, maybe it was a conversation in Hyderabad.


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[Assistant] The essential lesson is how much trouble it is to have a wife.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which was to, as you point out, it was to help Mara's prekship prepare.


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[Assistant] Prepare for the inevitable, excuse me, which was going to happen very soon.


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[Assistant] Uh, and so as you say, renunciation was, uh,


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[Assistant] Or it, it's, it's, you can say a very dominant theme of the whole, the whole Bhagavatam and therefore,


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[Assistant] In that theme, uhm, with that flavor you can say, he's speaking these two chapters, but


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[Assistant] Now I have a question. Why is it that he emphasizes, in this verse we just read, how delicate Ram's feet are?


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[Assistant] So delicate that they were unable to bear even the touch of Sita's palms.


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[Assistant] Okay, that's a good, that's a good answer, uh, because there are a lot of passages.


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[Assistant] Uh, hinting at or somehow anticipating.


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[Assistant] Correct me if I'm wrong, but it says here that, uh, it was Lord Rama who disfigures Shurpanakha.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I was thinking it was Lakshmana who does that.


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[Assistant] And then there's this emphasis on


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[Assistant] Uh, the interaction that Rama has, again, still this verse between Rama and the ocean.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he becomes angry since he therefore become, became angry.


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[Assistant] Uh, because he was separated from Mother Sita.


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[Assistant] He therefore became angry, moving his eyebrows.


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[Assistant] Ben submits to him and, uh, and there are two prayers.


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[Assistant] Uh, I won't be able to find so quickly now, but, uh, there are two prayers of the ocean, uh, to Lord Rama. Oh, here they are. Uh, verses 14 and 15. Our prayers by the ocean to the Lord.


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[Assistant] Oh, all pervading Supreme person, we are dull minded and did not understand who you are.


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[Assistant] The master of the entire universe, the unchanging and original personality of God.


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[Assistant] The demigods are infatuated with the mode of goodness.


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[Assistant] The Prajapati's with the mode of passion and the Lord of ghosts with the mode of ignorance, but you are the master of all these qualities. And then the next verse, he, he makes the point, the practical point.


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[Assistant] Indeed, you may cross it and go to the abode of Ravana, who is the great source of disturbance and crying for the three worlds. He is the son of Vishrava, but is condemned like urine. Please go kill him.


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[Assistant] And thus regain your wife, Sita Devi. Oh, great hero.


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[Assistant] Although my water presents no impediment to your going to Langa, please construct a bridge over it to spread your transcendental fame.


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[Assistant] Upon seeing this wonderfully uncommon deed of your Lordship.


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[Assistant] All the great heroes and kings in the future will glorify you.


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[Assistant] So the verse is, it's saying, yes, please do it. And then it's going on to, in effect, describe what's going to happen in the future. He is going to build this bridge and this setu and then he's going to kill Ravana. So it's an anticipation, but again, uh, Maharaj Prishad already knows the story.


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[Assistant] And we also already know the story.


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[Assistant] And as you said, you know it since childhood, but hearing it again,


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[Assistant] And again and again, it's always enlightening. Why is that?


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[Assistant] Why is it that, uhm, Krishna Leela works in that way?


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[Assistant] I read an article, uhm, by a scholar who attended the Ram Leela performance.


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[Assistant] Just across the Ganga from Varanasi.


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[Assistant] And, uh, she attended the entire one month performance, and she describes it in quite some detail. Uh, what a...


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[Assistant] Uh, the whole atmosphere, how everything goes on. And, uh, she's describing the mood of the audience. And she mentions that many of the audience


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[Assistant] Well, everyone in the audience already knows the whole story. They are, uhm, performing


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[Assistant] Not Valmiki Ramayana, but Ramcharitmanas of Tulsidas.


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[Assistant] Have practically the whole Tulsi Ramayana memorized.


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[Assistant] So someone in the West could say, well, I don't want to see, okay, sometimes I'll see a film more than once. I already know what's going to happen. I want to see it again, but again and again and again and again, no, there's no need for that.


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[Assistant] Also, also, also the, uh, late 1980s television performance or television broadcast that went for more than a year in India.


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[Assistant] Ramanan Sagar, yeaah. Uhm, the, the reports are that


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[Assistant] Every Sunday morning when that was broadcast, India would come to a stop. Practically it was like lockdown. Everyone, everyone just stopped and watched the Ramayana.


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[Assistant] And some villages, again, I read, I read about this, some villages, maybe there would be only one, uh, television in the whole village.


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[Assistant] They would get an extension cord and they would bring it out, uh, to the village square or whatever. Uh, and everyone would gather around and some, and they, they might also put a garland or garlands around the TV screen.


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[Assistant] So uhm, that article, where was it? I would have to look. It's been a while.


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[Assistant] She's appreciating that, how much dedicated people are.


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[Assistant] And she, she points out, you know, some days, some days it was raining. Um, but this doesn't stop anyone. Everyone is coming, sitting in the mud. Doesn't matter. And also she was highlighting how.


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[Assistant] Uh, the, the audience become actually participants. Uh, they feel themselves to be in effect, uh, like residents of Ayodhya so that when Ram


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[Assistant] In, in the drama when Rama leaves for the forest, uhm, they actually move, they physically go on a procession and they go to a different part of Ramnagar and the entire audience is going in this mood that, uh, we are residents of Ayodhya,


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[Assistant] In that mood that it's participation and I, I would say that's her, perhaps her main conclusion.


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[Assistant] I'm, I'm experiencing what is called a bhava.


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[Assistant] Abhava is, uh, one of the 10 pramanas of classical Nyaya.


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[Assistant] It's the experience of the absence of something or someone.


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[Assistant] So now we are experiencing the absence of Chaitanya Charan Prabhu. We see his chair.


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[Assistant] A bhava is one of the ten forms of, uh, uh, one type of pramana, and it's, uh, the sense of absence.


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[Assistant] And therefore we have a drama. I want to share one, one more.


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[Assistant] Verse from the Bhagavatam, a famous one. Uh, this is, uh, quoted in Lago Bhagavatamritam, but it's,


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[Assistant] Oh, and it's spoken by Karibajana Muni. I don't remember. I think it's either chapter two or chapter five.


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[Assistant] Vande maha purushate charanam. And here, oh, here it is 11, 5, 34.


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[Assistant] Oh Mahapurusha, I worship your lotus feet.


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[Assistant] As the most faithful follower of religious principles, you honored the words of your respected father and went to the forest abandoning royal splendor so opulent that the demigods desired it in the forest.


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[Assistant] You chased after the illusory deer.


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[Assistant] And commentators explain.


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[Assistant] Uh, this is elaborated in the purport that this same verse can be applied to or can be taken as describing, uh, also Lord Krishna's pastimes and Caitanya Mahaprabhu's pastimes.


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[Assistant] So it has a triple, a triple meaning depending how you take the words.


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[Assistant] Uh, initial understanding is that it's referring to Lord Rama.


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[Assistant] Uh, and in, uh, this short commentary


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[Assistant] Of Gopiparanadana Prabhu in the Laghubhagat Tamrita, it says,


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[Assistant] This verse can alternately, alternatively be taken as Karavajana's description of the Lord rather than


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[Assistant] An homage directed to him, in which case the word Dharmishta, a virtuous one, is directed to Nimi Maharaj.


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[Assistant] So it's just, he's pointing out it can be taken either as a description or as praising, as addressing the Lord.


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[Assistant] Anyway, that's uhm, that's a nice verse, uh, for one reason, because the next verse, uhm,


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[Assistant] Lord Shaitanya. Is about Lord Shaitanya, yeaah, specifically.


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[Assistant] If you don't like Bhakti, you won't like this.


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[Assistant] Not heartburn, heartache. Heartburn is something else.


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[Assistant] Taking this question, this issue of the ideal person.


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[Assistant] It seems to me that one of the messages of the Ramayana is that no matter how ideal you are,


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[Assistant] Uhm, you know, even Rama is put into situations.


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[Assistant] Where he cannot possibly fulfill his Dharma in all spheres. So taking the, taking the point of banishing his wife at the end.


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[Assistant] He actually has two dharmas. One is to his wife, his family, and the other is to the, to the public as, as the king, as a kshatriya. And the, the situation is, is either or.


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[Assistant] It's one or the other and he chooses the, uh, the Dharma of, of King over the Dharma of husband.


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[Assistant] The Dharma of obedience to the father over the Dharma of being king.


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[Assistant] So there's, you made a nice parallel and I guess what I'm saying here is two things. There's also an inversion.


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[Assistant] And the inversion is there. It highlights that there's, uh, conflicting dharmas.


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[Assistant] Which, which raises the question, and this is, uh,


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[Assistant] I think it's even more so in the Mahabharata. It's been said the whole Mahabharata is


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[Assistant] Uh, trying to answer the question, what is Dharma? Yes. And the only sort of definite answer that's given is, uh, by Lord Krishna, Sarva Dharma and Parityaja.


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[Assistant] Yeah, but, but there's something else going on here and that is that, um,


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[Assistant] On the one side, we say Dharma is difficult to ascertain.


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[Assistant] But on the other side, we see that at least on, on the level of social interaction, which is where, you know, we are generally concerned about Dharma.


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[Assistant] That it's actually impossible to do everything that is expected. It's not, no, and this is what the Ramayana is saying. Even if you're a God yourself.


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[Assistant] Even if you're so perfect that you are God, you're not going to be able to follow all the dharmas. And there's going to be some conflict.


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[Assistant] Then you have to make a choice and as you make a choice, uh,


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[Assistant] Someone is not going to be happy. The residents of Ayodhya were very, uh, you know, very sad when Rama left for the forest.


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[Assistant] And we are all sad when Krishna banishes, sorry, when Rama banishes Sita to the forest.


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[Assistant] There, there's an interesting, uh, episode kind of in the middle of the Ramayana.


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[Assistant] Uh, which may illuminate this or it may just complicate things.


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[Assistant] And as you know, uhm, that's described in the, in the Valmiki Ramayana. As Vali is dying, he's accusing Rama of having completely departed from Dharma.


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[Assistant] Refutes. He, he defends himself.


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[Assistant] Now a lot of, uh, a lot of, uh, later


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[Assistant] Commentators and uh, modern


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[Assistant] Uh, express that they feel that his arguments were not convincing that Rama's arguments are


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[Assistant] They say, oh, they are disorganized. They are not very convincing. One of the arguments is you're just an animal and I am hunting.


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[Assistant] And a hunter doesn't have to, you know, doesn't have to walk in front of his prey, uh, to say now I'm going to fight and kill you.


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[Assistant] Uhm, Vali is speaking to him, so what kind of animal is this? But there's an interesting, uhm, point that's made by one of the main commentators


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[Assistant] Uh, named Govindaraj. I think he may be a Sri Vaishnava. I'm not sure.


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[Assistant] Uhm, so Govindaraj gives the explanation that if


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[Assistant] Rama had presented himself before Bali.


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[Assistant] There was a danger that Bali would surrender.


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[Assistant] That would spoil the rest of the story. There would be no longer reason.


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[Assistant] Uh, for uh, for Rama to go to Lanka.


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[Assistant] I'm not quite sure I get all the connections, but that's the argument apparently he makes.


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[Assistant] So then you get this very interesting inversion again where the reason for acting as he does


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[Assistant] And there's a nice passage, uh, let's see if I can find that. Go ahead while you're speaking, I will try to find it.


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[Assistant] I just thought we can read, uhm, Bali's response to


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[Assistant] Uh, to Lord Rama, I found it. This is Kishkindha.


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[Assistant] This fourth volume is translated by Professor Rosalind Lefebvre. Uhm, so he's, Vali says,


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[Assistant] Please do not find fault with me even for the unseemly displeasing words I spoke before by mistake, Raghava.


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[Assistant] For you, understand worldly interests and know the truth.


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[Assistant] And you are devoted to the wellbeing of the people.


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[Assistant] Your immutable judgment about determining crime and punishment is correct.


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[Assistant] You know righteousness, therefore with righteous words.


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[Assistant] And righteousness is of course translating the word Dharma.


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[Assistant] Therefore, with righteous words, comfort even me.


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[Assistant] Known to be a flagrant violator of, of righteousness, Dharma. Like an elephant mired in mud. Vali.


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[Assistant] He cried out in distress, his voice choked with tears. Then looking at Rama, he said softly,


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[Assistant] Uh, express his concern for his son and his son's future and so on.


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[Assistant] So, yeah, there is this change in heart, uh, we can say on the part of Bali.


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[Assistant] As he lies dying, there is a change in heart. And this we might compare, it just occurs to me I'm thinking aloud.


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[Assistant] Uh, to the death of Jatayu.


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[Assistant] I don't know, this may be a stretch, but Chittayu of course is, uh, fighting for Lord Rama when he's fighting Ravana and Ravana overcomes him and he lays, he's lying there dying and Lord Rama comes.


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[Assistant] We can say it's not a change of heart, but it's, it's his perfection now because Rama is present before him as he's leaving his body. It's a very touching moment, uh, in which the.


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[Assistant] Yeah, there's a perfection there, whether it's Rama's perfection, I would say it's Jatayya's perfection, uh, just to have given his life, uh, for Rama and Sita.


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[Assistant] And there's a similar perfection of course for, uh, Bali in that.


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[Assistant] He is dying at the hands of Rama, we understand.


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[Assistant] The bhakti element and the understanding that if you're killed by the Lord, you're liberated. Uh, still he has had a transformation. He's had a change of heart.


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[Assistant] Uh, which kind of invites us to see the Bhakti principle. So I find it difficult.


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[Assistant] To understand the critics that you mentioned who are saying, well, if you don't like bhakti, then you may not appreciate this, this book, uh, because the, the Ramayana, I mean, what is it if it's not about bhakti, right?


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[Assistant] My only real self-help is to find the Supreme Self.


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[Assistant] Not about destination so much as about the dramatic moment.


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[Assistant] They're both before Rama as they are dying.


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[Assistant] It's a very powerful moment in both cases. Dramatically speaking, it's a very, you know, special, it's, it's, uh, yeah, it's a perfection. Whatever the perfection may be, we understand it's, you know, moksha, et cetera. It's back home, back to godhead and so on. But, uh, just from the, from the,


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[Assistant] Point of view of the drama and the issue of perfection being a perfect person, uh, in this world.


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[Assistant] Uh, are themselves a kind of perfection, a kind of...


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[Assistant] Yeah, cli- certainly climactic moments.


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[Assistant] But you just pointed out there's a delay, uh, in the death of, of Bali or Valin is sometimes


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[Assistant] We were mentioning before that there's so many versions of the Ramayana, uhm, in different parts of the world, uh, which are


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[Assistant] Making assorted adjustments to the story, we may say.


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[Assistant] Which resonates with particular cultures.


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[Assistant] In Indonesia, all over Southeast Asia, uhm, it's also known, excuse me, in China, uh, within another story, uh, another famous work. It's known in Japan and recently, uh, it's been made into, uh, an animated film in Japan.


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[Assistant] Uh, there's also an American animation which was done


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[Assistant] Oh, what is her name? I'm not remembering now, but she, uh, she did a


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[Assistant] You can find it on YouTube, I think. Uh, and...


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[Assistant] Anyway, that's a very different version. It's a kind of, uh,


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[Assistant] You can say it's a feminist version, sort of taking Sita Devi's perspective.


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[Assistant] Different famous episodes from different traditions. So one section is the Battle of the Brothers. And first it gives a summary of the Valmiki Ramayana account. And then it gives a short account from Khmer, which I guess is Cambodia, uh,


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[Assistant] The Rayam care or Rama care tea it's called.


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[Assistant] And sees his name on it. He sees his name on the arrow.


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[Assistant] But he accuses Rama of improper behavior for interfering in the fight of others.


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[Assistant] Since he should protect living creatures, Rama offers to recall the arrow


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[Assistant] But Bali refuses because he will not plead for his life. He releases his grip on the arrow and the arrow pierces his body, flies to the sea for cleansing and returns to Rama.


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[Assistant] Uh, falls in grief at the feet of Vali's body and laments.


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[Assistant] This is divine retribution for some wrong you committed long ago. The ground is now your royal couch. Actually, this is in Valmiki Ramayan. Close.


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[Assistant] Uh, with a forested hill for a pillow and the star-strewn sky as a canopy. The wind is your music, the moon your torch.


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[Assistant] Descends from heaven and sprinkles perfumed water on Bali, granting him passage to paradise.


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[Assistant] Holy men in the forest recite from the sacred texts for his entrance into Nirvana.


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[Assistant] So I guess this is, uh, you know, some Buddhist.


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[Assistant] Uh, influence or elements are there. Uh, he, he attains nirvana.


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[Assistant] It's not many, it's a handful. Okay. Uhm, yeaah.


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[Assistant] We have one scholar, by the way, in Oxford, uh, who, uh, is retired now and he has been hit


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[Assistant] And now he's continuing to study the Ramayana, uh, he and his wife both, uh, in particular, they are,


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[Assistant] Cataloging the different versions of Ramayana from different parts of the world.


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[Assistant] This is John Brockington and his wife Mary. Very nice people. So anyway, uh, yeah, different versions.


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[Assistant] Little bit advertised because I found it just so nicely done. There is a three volume re-writing, you can say, uh, uh, creative, uh, presentation of the Ramayana done by Vrindadevi,


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[Assistant] Uh, Brinda in America and her mother, uhm, Annapurna is the illustrator. Beautiful illustrations and amazingly nicely written with an emphasis again on the perspective of Sita.


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[Assistant] Uhm, but very tastefully done and I would say very, uh, well


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[Assistant] You can say venturing into the inner life of


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[Assistant] How Lakshman feels as he is with Sita and Rama. Some of the awkwardness of being with Sita and Rama.


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[Assistant] A good translation of any, uh,


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[Assistant] Major text becomes itself a classic. Uh, in the Western world, the, the, I think best example of this is, uh, what's called the King James version of the Bible. Uh, this was a translation done


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[Assistant] As far as translation of Ramayana goes, I suppose time will tell.


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[Assistant] As far as English translation, we do now have this.


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[Assistant] Uh, seven volume translation of the critical edition.


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[Assistant] Which I think is interesting. It includes, uh,


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[Assistant] Many points that are made by the main commentators.


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[Assistant] In the notes. So it's not neglecting the sort of classical commentators.


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[Assistant] And so is, is it known roughly when that, um, Jane version appeared?


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[Assistant] Yeaah. Began a hot issue, uh, a few years back. Yeaah. I remember in Delhi.


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[Assistant] Yes, but okay, that gets into a, it gets into the hot, hot political sphere.


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[Assistant] But I, I would argue that even if that's the case, that, uh, he was, that the sort of bottom line of his article was that there's no, uh, authorizer of mine. That in itself is not, uh, an argument for removing, removing his article, uh, from the syllabus.


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[Assistant] Even if everyone wants to disagree with what he says, let everyone read what he says, and then you can argue against what he says. That's education. Not that you control, uhm, you know, you ban the article, people shouldn't read this, it's going to disturb them. No, make it, have,


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[Assistant] If it's going to disturb, then you should have strong arguments against it, but everyone should be able to read it and get both sides.


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[Assistant] But it's, if we're talking about intellectual culture,


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[Assistant] Which I think is what we're trying to do in the university level. Then, uh, you present.


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[Assistant] In effect, what this ban of that article was doing


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[Assistant] I was saying we're gonna remove the Purvapaksha and we're only gonna have our Siddhanta.


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[Assistant] And furthermore, I think it just proves, uh, another point. Uhm, as you said, there's no representation of the tradition, uh, in the academy. And this is one of the, uh,


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[Assistant] Except for a few private universities, there is no, uhm, departments for the study of religion.


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[Assistant] And therefore there's no, uhm, there's no, there are no channels for people who are


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[Assistant] Interested in religion to become qualified academically so that they can, you know, bring, bring a balanced argument which can be taken seriously.


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[Assistant] The, the traditional scholars,


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[Assistant] Uhm, are kind of, you know, they live within a certain, uhm,


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[Assistant] A certain kind of world of presuppositions, which modern scholarship doesn't know how to


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[Assistant] They don't relate to, so how are they going to interact? To, to simply ban something is not really solving the problem. Yes.


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[Assistant] Uh, and we now have a few posts.


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[Assistant] Uh, postgraduate students who are preparing, they're getting training by devotees in scholarship, uh, on the level of masters and doctoral research.


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[Assistant] That's Varnashana Dharma, facilitating the Brahmins to do what Brahmins can do well.


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[Assistant] Uhm, which is, uh, research, teaching, education.


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[Assistant] So they should be able, they should be facilitated to do that in the modern context.


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[Assistant] I just gave, uh, I just taught one, one module, uhm, on research skills and, uh,


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[Assistant] We just completed that. I still have to mark all of the assignments.


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[Assistant] So yeaah, so we want to get the, we want to get the students up to speed, uhm, because unless they can, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, follow these kind of standards of the academy. They won't be able to, they won't be able to publish. They won't be able to get positions where they can teach.


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[Assistant] All of these things, there are skills that are required.


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[Assistant] Like for any, any, uh, specialty. So we're trying to, we're trying to train up, uh, students to have these skills.


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[Assistant] Poor as boundaries because, and I think that is also one of the strengths. Uhm, who is...


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[Assistant] Who is patrolling the boundaries, we may say. And I would say that is where the


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[Assistant] So he makes a choice that here is a story which will enrich the devotees. Otherwise he wouldn't tell it.


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[Assistant] We all respect him as, as, as a sadhu, as a very good follower of our acharya, Shila Bravahat. And,


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[Assistant] I would just, I don't know if he does this all the time, I don't think he does all the time, but best would be if


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[Assistant] When he or someone else is narrating such a story that he's saying that he's kind of announcing.


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[Assistant] This is a local tradition. This is what the villagers say.


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[Assistant] So that the next person who hears it doesn't then...


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[Assistant] Make clear, this is local, uh, kata, local tradition.


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[Assistant] According to, you know, the Bhagavatam, this and this and this, local tradition says that, uh, the local tradition,


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[Assistant] We share it perhaps because it enriches our appreciation of


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[Assistant] Krishna, it also enriches our appreciation of, uh, local, of Brijbat, excuse me, Brijbassis.


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[Assistant] You know, they, they also are to be respected. We understand they're not ordinary and so they can be respected. Uhm, but I think the, the boundary patrol


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[Assistant] It is permitted, uh, to make adjustment to Shastra as long as the rasa is right. If you get the right rasa,


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[Assistant] And I think this gets back to what you were saying about harmonizing.


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[Assistant] You know, if, if there's essential harmony, then we may, we may accept, uh, some variation.


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[Assistant] So that's what, that's, that's what Ruba Goswami says explicitly, uhm, in his, what is it called? He wrote a textbook on drama.


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[Assistant] Yes, not the, not the Kachchandrika. Thank you.


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[Assistant] He elaborates, he tells uhm, he, he puts a twist into the story. He adds, he adds the curse and so on. That, uh,


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[Assistant] Uhm, in the Mahabharata, there's a very different kind of


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[Assistant] He's actually just playing like he forgets because he needs to first, uh, establish


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[Assistant] Otherwise, otherwise, you know, if I just accept you now,


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[Assistant] Uh, people may not accept you and then it's going to be a big problem.


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[Assistant] He keeps putting her off, acting like he's forgetting, acting like she's making it all up. And then comes, I just read this a few days ago, then comes a voice from the sky. This is your wife, come on.


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[Assistant] But the point is, the point is that Kali Das makes it a rather different story, but uhm, I would assume that Shila Rupa Goswami would say he keeps the rasas, so it's okay.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I think it's a good general, general principle.


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[Assistant] What I have, uh, encouraged devotees to do


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[Assistant] Is to have minor characters, uh, speak with each other in such a way that


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[Assistant] They may bring in some additional, you know, points which are appropriate.


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[Assistant] And in that way, uh, you, you kind of, it's a kind of safe position, I think you can make it.


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[Assistant] So that, uh, you're not taking, you can't be accused of taking too many liberties.


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[Assistant] It's real. It's happening again. The lila is happening again.


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[Assistant] Maybe just one small point to add, which, uhm, has kind of fascinated me since I read it some years back, uhm, that I think it was, uh, the, the


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[Assistant] 10th century aesthetician, uhm, Ananda Vardhana, who, who said that the dominant rasa of the Ramayana is Karuna. It's Karuna Rasa.


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[Assistant] Karuna is a sense, it's a sense of compassion, but it's also a sense of pathos. Uhm, in a sense the Ramayana


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[Assistant] Within, let's say this, the Valmiki Ramayana, he's speaking about the Valmiki Ramayana, which is considered the original, because Valmiki is the Adi Kavi,


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[Assistant] So this is poetry, so poetry has to express Rasa.


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[Assistant] And the dominant rasa, he said, uh, is, is Karuna.


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[Assistant] And if you look at it from that perspective, it's very interesting to see how the.


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[Assistant] Because of the feelings of separation, Ram from Sita especially,


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[Assistant] Uh, to identify Karuna as the dominant rasa I think is very fascinating and also inviting for us to


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[Assistant] Understand the Valmiki Ramayana is, uh,


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[Assistant] Deeply nourishing to our Bhakti. In other words, we don't have to think, oh, I'm just a, I'm a Krishna Bhakta.


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[Assistant] I don't have anything to do with Rama. He's, he's all about Dharma and rules and regulations. That's not for me. No, it's, it's deeply about, uh, it's deeply about bhakti and on, on the level also, uh, of viraha.


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[Assistant] But it's, the particular flavor is Karuna.


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[Assistant] I would, I would understand Karuna in, in relation to pathos, whether they are


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[Assistant] You know, coextensive meaning may not be appropriate, uh, but


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[Assistant] Having compassion on all of us. He's showing compassion, uhm.


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[Assistant] To everyone in the story, in one way or another, he's showing compassion to Ravana by killing him, you know.


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[Assistant] We're Balarama and Krishna. I don't know. Or we end up, or we do 11.


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[Assistant] For sure, he has his own TikTok. Where he makes crazy meowing noises for his owner.


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[Assistant] I had wondered if Miss Murdstone would try and blacken my name with the Spenrose, but on that first evening she had taken me to one side. David Copperfield, she said coldly.


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[Assistant] I see no need for either of us to speak about the past to anyone here.


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[Assistant] I put Miss Murdstone out of my mind, and for several weeks after meeting Dora, I lived in a dream. I did my work automatically, and I never stopped thinking of her. The greatest happiness I could imagine was being engaged to Dora. I dared not hope that one day we would be married.


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[Assistant] Does that make it a bad game though? The game itself? Hell no.


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[Assistant] I can tell you now that Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain has the potential to be one of the best games ever played if it's more of this. Game of the year material easily in whatever year it's released.


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[Assistant] What? Are you fucking shitting me? How long? I played for a fucking hour! Now if that's a satisfying experience, Corporate Commander has a ton of previews, alphas, demos to sell you through his new service, fanboys pay ransoms!


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[Assistant] Uhm, there's a health generation system change, the inventory system has changed, uh, but, but for those, those felt natural enough to me and I wouldn't put it in a negative column of any sort. Regenerating health and, and the inventory system seemed fine to me. So ultimately you have to ask yourself, is this what you want for the future? 20 to 30 dollar demos?


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[Assistant] Bet your fucking ass other companies will follow suit with their own 30, 40 dollar epilogues broken off from the main campaign. And it will be all our fault.


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[Assistant] By order of the law to Madame Bovary, within 24 hours, 320 pounds must be paid.


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[Assistant] Or all her furniture and possessions will be removed.


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[Assistant] Did you think I would supply you with goods and money forever?


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[Assistant] I had intended the adventure of the Abbey Grange to be the last of those exploits of my friend Mr. Sherlock Holmes, which I should ever communicate to the public. This resolution of mine was not due to any lack of material.


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[Assistant] Since I have notes of many hundreds of cases to which I have never alluded.


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[Assistant] Nor was it caused by any waning interest on the part of my readers in the singular personality and unique methods of this remarkable man.


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[Assistant] The real reason lay in the reluctance which Mr. Holmes has shown to the continued publication of his experiences. So long as he was in actual professional practice,


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[Assistant] The records of his successes were of some practical value to him.


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[Assistant] But since he has definitely retired from London and be taken himself to study and bee farming on the Sussex Downs, notoriety has become hateful to him.


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[Assistant] And he has peremptorily requested that his wishes in this matter should be strictly observed.


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[Assistant] It was only upon my representing to him that I had given a promise that the adventure of the second stain should be published when the times were ripe.


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[Assistant] Somewhat vague in certain details, the public will readily understand that there is an excellent reason for my reticence. It was then, in a year and even in a decade, that shall be nameless


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[Assistant] That upon one Tuesday morning in autumn we found two visitors of European fame within the walls of our humble room in Baker Street.


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[Assistant] Osteer, high-nosed, eagle-eyed, and dominant was none other than the illustrious Lord Bellinger, twice Premier of Britain. The other, dark, clear-cut, and elegant, hardly yet of middle age,


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[Assistant] And endowed with every beauty of body and of mind was the right honourable Trelawney Hope, Secretary for European Affairs, and the most rising statesman in the country.


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[Assistant] They sat side by side upon our paper-littered city.


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[Assistant] And it was easy to see from their worn and anxious faces that it was business of the most pressing importance which had brought them.


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[Assistant] The Premier's thin blue veined hands were clasped tightly over the ivory head of his umbrella.


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[Assistant] And his gaunt, ascetic face looked gloomily from Holmes to me.


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[Assistant] The European secretary pulled nervously at his moustache and fidgeted with the seals of his watch chain. When I discovered my loss, Mr. Holmes,


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[Assistant] Which was at eight o'clock this morning, I at once informed the Prime Minister.


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[Assistant] Said the Prime Minister with the quick, decisive manner for which he was famous.


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[Assistant] We have not done so, nor is it possible that we should do so.


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[Assistant] To inform the police must in the long run mean to inform the public. This is what we particularly desire to avoid. And why, sir?


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[Assistant] Because the document in question is of such immense importance.


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[Assistant] That its publication might very easily, I might almost say probably, lead to European complications of the utmost moment.


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[Assistant] There's not too much to say that peace or war may hang upon the issue.


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[Assistant] Unless its recovery can be attended with the utmost secrecy, then it may as well not be recovered at all.


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[Assistant] I should be much obliged if you would tell me exactly the circumstances under which this document disappeared. That can be done in very few words, Mr. Holmes.


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[Assistant] The letter, for it was a letter from a foreign potentate, was received six days ago.


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[Assistant] It was of such importance that I have never left it in my safe, but I have taken it across each evening to my house in Whitehall Terrace.


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[Assistant] And kept it in my bedroom in a locked dispatch box. It was there last night. Of that, I am certain.


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[Assistant] I actually opened the box while I was dressing for dinner and saw the document inside. This morning it was gone.


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[Assistant] The dispatch box had stood beside the glass upon my dressing table all night. I am a light sleeper, and so is my wife.


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[Assistant] We are both prepared to swear that no one could have entered the room during the night. And yet I repeat that the paper is gone. What time did you dine? Half past seven. How long was it before you went to bed? My wife had gone to the theatre. I waited up for her. It was half past eleven before we went to our room.


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[Assistant] Then for four hours the dispatch box had lain unguarded.


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[Assistant] No one is ever permitted to enter that room save the housemaid in the morning and my valet or my wife's maid during the rest of the day. They are both trusty servants who have been with us for some time.


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[Assistant] Besides, neither of them could possibly have known that there was anything more valuable than the ordinary departmental papers in my dispatch box. Who did know of the existence of that letter? No one in the house. Surely your wife knew? No, sir. I had said nothing to my wife until I missed the paper this morning. The Premier nodded approvingly.


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[Assistant] I have long known, sir. How high is your sense of public duty? said he.


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[Assistant] I am convinced that in the case of a secret of this importance, it would rise superior to the most intimate domestic ties. The European secretary bowed. You do me no more than justice, sir.


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[Assistant] Until this morning, I have never breathed one word to my wife upon this matter. Could she have guessed?


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[Assistant] No, Mr. Holmes, she would not have guessed, nor could anyone have guessed. Have you lost any documents before? No, sir. Who is there in England who did know of the existence of this letter?


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[Assistant] Each member of the cabinet was informed of it yesterday, but the pledge of secrecy which attends every cabinet meeting was increased by the solemn warning which was given by the Prime Minister.


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[Assistant] Good heavens, to think that within a few hours I should myself have lost it.


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[Assistant] His handsome face was distorted with a spasm of despair, and his hands tore at his hair.


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[Assistant] For a moment we caught a glimpse of the natural man, impulsive, ardent, keenly sensitive.


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[Assistant] The next, the aristocratic mask was replaced and the gentle voice had returned.


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[Assistant] Besides the members of the cabinet, there are two or possibly three departmental officials who know of the letter. No one else in England, Mr. Holmes, I assure you. But abroad!


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[Assistant] I believe that no one abroad has seen it save the man who wrote it. I am well convinced that his ministers


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[Assistant] That the usual official channels have not been employed. Holmes considered for some little time.


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[Assistant] Now sir, I must ask you more particularly what this document is and why its disappearance should have such momentous consequences.


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[Assistant] The two statesmen exchanged a quick glance, and the premier's shaggy eyebrows gathered in a frown.


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[Assistant] There is a seal of red wax stamped with a crouching lion.


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[Assistant] Said Holmes, that interesting and indeed essential as these details are, my inquiries must go more to the root of things. What was the letter?


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[Assistant] That is a state secret of the utmost importance, and I fear that I cannot tell you, nor do I see that it is necessary.


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[Assistant] If by the aid of the powers which you are said to possess, you can find such an envelope as I describe, with its enclosure, you will have deserved well of your country.


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[Assistant] I regret exceedingly that I cannot help you in this matter, and any continuation of this interview would be a waste of time.


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[Assistant] The Premier sprang to his feet with that quick, fierce gleam of his deep-set eyes before which a cabinet has cowered. I am not accustomed, sir, he began, but mastered his anger and resumed his seat. For a minute or more, we all sat in silence. Then the old statesman shrugged his shoulders. We must accept your terms, Mr. Holmes. No doubt you are right.


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[Assistant] Relying entirely upon your honor and that of your colleague, Dr. Watson.


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[Assistant] It has been written hurriedly and upon his own responsibility entirely. Inquiries have shown that his ministers know nothing of the matter.


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[Assistant] At the same time, it is couched in so unfortunate a manner and certain phrases in it are of so provocative a character that its publication would undoubtedly lead to a most dangerous state of feeling in this country.


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[Assistant] There would be such a firm answer, but I do not hesitate to say that within a week of the publication of that letter,


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[Assistant] This letter, which may well mean the expenditure of a thousand millions and the lives of a hundred thousand men, which has become lost in this unaccountable fashion. Have you informed the sender? Yes, sir. A cipher telegram has been dispatched.


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[Assistant] Perhaps he desires the publication of the letter. No sir, we have strong reason to believe that he already understands that he has acted in an indiscreet and hot-headed manner.


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[Assistant] It would be a greater blow to him and to his country than to us if this letter were to come out.


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[Assistant] If this is so, whose interest is it that the letter should come out? Why should anyone desire to steal it or to publish it?


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[Assistant] There, Mr. Holmes will take me into the regions of high international politics.


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[Assistant] But if you consider the European situation, you will have no difficulty in perceiving the motive. The whole of Europe is an armed camp.


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[Assistant] There is a double league which makes a fair balance of military power. Great Britain holds the scales.


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[Assistant] If Britain were driven into war with one confederacy, it would assure the supremacy of the other confederacy, whether they joined in the war or not. You follow? Very clearly.


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[Assistant] Is it then the interest of the enemies of this potentate to secure and publish this letter? So as to make a breach between his country and ours? Yes, sir.


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[Assistant] And to whom would this document be sent if it fell into the hands of an enemy? To any of the great chancellories of Europe.


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[Assistant] It is probably speeding on its way thither at the present instant as fast as steam can take it. Mr. Trelawney Hope dropped his head on his chest and groaned aloud. The Premier placed his hand kindly upon his shoulder.


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[Assistant] It is your misfortune, my dear fellow. No one can blame you. There is no precaution which you have neglected. Now, Mr. Holmes, you are in full possession of the facts. What course do you recommend? Holmes shook his head mournfully.


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[Assistant] You think, sir, that unless this document is recovered, there will be war? I think it very probable. Then, sir, prepare for war. That is a hard saying, Mr. Holmes. Consider the fact, sir.


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[Assistant] It is inconceivable that it was taken after 11.30 at night.


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[Assistant] Since I understand that Mr. Hope and his wife were both in the room from that hour until the loss was found out.


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[Assistant] Now sir, if a document of this importance were taken at that hour, where could it be now? No one has any reason to retain it. It has been passed rapidly on to those who need it.


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[Assistant] What chance have we now to overtake or even to trace it? It is beyond our reach. The Prime Minister rose from the city.


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[Assistant] What you say is perfectly logical, Mr. Holmes. I feel that the matter is indeed out of our hands. Let us presume, for argument's sake, that the document was taken by the maid or by the valet. They are both old and tried servants. I understand you to say that your room is on the second floor


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[Assistant] That there is no entrance from without and that from within no one could go up unobserved. It must then be somebody in the house who has taken it. To whom would the thief take it?


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[Assistant] To one of several international spies and secret agents whose names are tolerably familiar to me.


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[Assistant] I will begin my research by going round and finding if each of them is at his post.


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[Assistant] If one is missing, especially if he has disappeared since last night, we will have some indication as to where the document has gone. Why should he be missing? asked the European secretary. He would take the letter to an embassy in London as likely as not. I fancy not.


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[Assistant] He would take so valuable a prize to headquarters with his own hands. I think that your course of action is an excellent one.


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[Assistant] Meanwhile, hope we cannot neglect all our other duties on account of this one misfortune.


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[Assistant] Should there be any fresh developments during the day, we shall communicate with you, and you will no doubt let us know the results of your own inquiries.


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[Assistant] When our illustrious visitors had departed, Holmes lit his pipe in silence and sat for some time lost in the deepest thought.


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[Assistant] When my friend gave an exclamation, sprang to his feet and laid his pipe down upon the mantelpiece. Yes, said he, there is no better way of approaching it. The situation is desperate, but not hopeless.


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[Assistant] Even now, if we could be sure which of them has taken it, it is just possible that it is not yet passed out of his hands.


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[Assistant] After all, it is a question of money with these fellows, and I have the British treasury behind me. If it's on the market, I'll buy it. If it means another penny on the income tax.


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[Assistant] It is conceivable that the fellow might hold it back to see what bids come from this side before he tries his luck on the other.


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[Assistant] There are Oberstein, LaRothier, and Eduardo Lucas. I will see each of them. I glanced at my morning paper. Is that Eduardo Lucas of Godolphin Street? Yes. You will not see him. Why not? He was murdered in his house last night.


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[Assistant] My friend has so often astonished me in the course of our adventures that it was with a sense of exultation that I realized how completely I had astonished him.


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[Assistant] He stared in amazement and then snatched the paper from my hands.


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[Assistant] This was the paragraph which I had been engaged in reading when he rose from his chair. Murder in Westminster.


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[Assistant] A crime of mysterious character was committed last night at 16 Godolphin Street, one of the old fashioned and secluded rows of 18th century houses which lie between the river and the abbey, almost in the shadow of the great tower of the Houses of Parliament.


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[Assistant] This small but select mansion has been inhabited for some years by Mr. Eduardo Lucas, well known in society circles both on account of his charming personality


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[Assistant] And because he has the well-deserved reputation of being one of the best amateur tenors in the country.


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[Assistant] Mr. Lucas is an unmarried man, 34 years of age, and his establishment consists of Mrs. Pringle, an elderly housekeeper, and of Mitten, his valet.


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[Assistant] The former retires early and sleeps at the top of the house.


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[Assistant] The valet was out for the evening, visiting a friend at Hammersmith.


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[Assistant] From ten o'clock onward, Mr. Lucas had the house to himself.


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[Assistant] What occurred during that time has not yet transpired, but at a quarter to 12, Police Constable Barrett, passing along Godolphin Street, observed that the door of number 16 was ajar. He knocked, but received no answer. Perceiving a light in the front room, he advanced into the passage and again knocked, but without reply. He then pushed open the door and entered. The room,


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[Assistant] Was in a state of wild disorder, the furniture being all swept to one side and one chair lying on its back in the center. Beside this chair and still grasping one of its legs, lay the unfortunate tenant of the house.


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[Assistant] He had been stabbed to the heart and must have died instantly.


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[Assistant] The knife with which the crime had been committed was a curved Indian dagger plucked down from a trophy of oriental arms which adorned one of the walls.


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[Assistant] Robbery does not appear to have been the motive of the crime, for there had been no attempt to remove the valuable contents of the room.


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[Assistant] Mr. Eduardo Lucas was so well known and popular that his violent and mysterious fate will arouse painful interest and intense sympathy in a widespread circle of friends.


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[Assistant] Well, Watson, what do you make of this? asked Holmes after a long pause. It is an amazing coincidence. A coincidence?


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[Assistant] Here is one of the three men whom we had named as possible actors in this drama, and he meets a violent death during the very hours when we know that that drama was being enacted. The odds are enormous against its being coincidence. No figures could express them.


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[Assistant] No my dear Watson, the two events are connected, must be connected. It is for us to find the connection.


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[Assistant] But now the official police must know all. Not at all.


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[Assistant] They know all they see at Godolphin Street. They know and shall know nothing of Whitehall Terrace.


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[Assistant] Only we know of both events and can trace the relation between them.


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[Assistant] There is one obvious point which would in any case have turned my suspicions against Lucas.


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[Assistant] Godolphin Street, Westminster is only a few minutes walk from Whitehall Terrace.


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[Assistant] The other secret agents whom I have named live in the extreme West End. It was easier, therefore, for Lucas than for the others to establish a connection or receive a message from the European Secretary's household.


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[Assistant] A small thing, and yet where events are compressed into a few hours, it may prove essential. Hello! What have we here?


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[Assistant] Mrs. Hudson had appeared with a lady's card upon her salver. Holmes glanced at it.


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[Assistant] Our modest apartment, already so distinguished that morning, was further honored.


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[Assistant] I had often heard of the beauty of the youngest daughter of the Duke of Belminster.


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[Assistant] But no description of it and no contemplation of colorless photographs had prepared me for the subtle, delicate charm and the beautiful coloring of that exquisite head.


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[Assistant] And yet, as we saw it that autumn morning, it was not its beauty which would be the first thing to impress the observer. The cheek was lovely, but it was paled with emotion. The eyes were bright, but it was the brightness of fever.


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[Assistant] The sensitive mouth was tight and drawn in an effort after self-command.


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[Assistant] Terror, not beauty, was what sprang first to the eye as our fair visitor stood framed for an instant in the open door. Has my husband been here, Mr. Holmes? Yes, madam, he has been here. Mr. Holmes, I implore you not to tell him that I came here. Holmes bowed coldly and motioned the lady to a chair. Your ladyship places me in a very delicate position.


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[Assistant] I beg that you will sit down and tell me what you desire, but I fear that I cannot make any unconditional promise.


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[Assistant] And her white-gloved hands clasped and unglasped as she spoke, I will speak frankly to you in the hopes that it may induce you to speak frankly in return.


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[Assistant] There is complete confidence between my husband and me on all matters save one. That one is politics. On this his lips are sealed. He tells me nothing.


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[Assistant] I'm aware that there was a most deplorable occurrence in our house last night. I know that a paper has disappeared.


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[Assistant] But because the matter is political, my husband refuses to take me into his complete confidence. Now it is essential, essential, I say, that I should thoroughly understand it.


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[Assistant] You are the only other person save only these politicians who knows the true facts.


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[Assistant] I beg you then, Mr. Holmes, to tell me exactly what has happened and what it will lead to.


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[Assistant] Tell me all, Mr. Holmes. Let no regard for your client's interests keep you silent, for I assure you that his interests, if he would only see it, would be best served by taking me into his complete confidence. What was this paper which was stolen? Madam, what you ask me is really impossible. She groaned and sank her face in her hands. You must see that this is so, madam.


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[Assistant] If your husband thinks fit to keep you in the dark over this matter, is it for me who has only learned the true facts under the pledge of professional secrecy to tell what he has withheld? It is not fair to ask it. It is him whom you must ask. I have asked him. I come to you as a last resource.


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[Assistant] But without your telling me anything definite, Mr. Holmes, you may do a great service if you would enlighten me on one point. What is it, madam?


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[Assistant] Is my husband's political career likely to suffer through this incident?


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[Assistant] Well madam, unless it is set right, it may certainly have a very unfortunate effect. Ah!


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[Assistant] From an expression which my husband dropped in the first shock of this disaster,


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[Assistant] I understood that terrible public consequences might arise from the loss of this document. If he said so, I certainly cannot deny it. Of what nature are they?


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[Assistant] Nay, madam, there again you ask me more than I can possibly answer. Then I will take up no more of your time. I cannot blame you, Mr. Holmes, for having refused to speak more freely.


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[Assistant] And you on your side will not I am sure think the worse of me because I desire even against his will to share my husband's anxieties. Once more I beg that you will say nothing of my visit. She looked back at us from the door.


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[Assistant] The fair sex is your department, said Holmes with a smile when the dwindling frou-frou of skirts had ended in the slam of the front door. What was the fair lady's game? What did she really want?


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[Assistant] Surely her own statement is clear, and her anxiety very natural. Hmm.


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[Assistant] Think of her appearance Watson, her manner, her suppressed excitement, her restlessness, her tenacity in asking questions.


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[Assistant] Remember that she comes of a cast who do not lightly show emotion.


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[Assistant] She was certainly much moved. Remember also the curious earnestness with which she assured us that it was best for her husband that she should know all. What did she mean by that?


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[Assistant] And you must have observed, Watson, how she maneuvered to have the light at her back. She did not wish us to read her expression. Yes, she chose the one chair in the room. And yet the motives of women are so...inscrutable.


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[Assistant] No powder on her nose! That proved to be the correct solution. How can you build on such a quicksand?


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[Assistant] Their most trivial action may mean volumes, or their most extraordinary conduct may depend upon a hairpin or a curling tongs. Good morning, Watson. You are off.


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[Assistant] Yes, I will while away the morning at Godolphin Street with our friends of the regular establishment.


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[Assistant] With Eduardo Lucas lies the solution of our problem, though I must admit that I have not an inkling as to what form it may take. It is a capital mistake to theorize in advance of the facts.


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[Assistant] Do you stay on guard, my good Watson, and receive any fresh visitors? I'll join you at lunch, if I am able.


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[Assistant] Sorry to interrupt your little moonlight romance, but there's something I gotta say to you too. What is it? It's Gear Guard. Right now he's about as perfect as can be. Especially since he's developed a soul and created his weird buddy Chaos Gal.


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[Assistant] If he continues like this, he'll surely become a threat to the universe. Listen to me blabbering on. This is above your pay grade. You two just focus on buddyfighting. Never forget how to have fun out there.


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[Assistant] Keep mindful of that and you can become the greatest Buddyfighter ever. Okay. Bots and I will not let you down, Guru.


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[Assistant] Hey Guru. They recognize each other's strengths and continue to work hard every day on their weaknesses. That is what it means to be true buddies.


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[Assistant] You go and go and never give in. Against the wind, you keep on running. Even when you stumble and fall over rocks, you never stop fighting.


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[Assistant] Women represented not only fertility, but also strength and political power. This image would change later of course, but it was stable for at least a few millennia in Neolithic times. It was an age where gender equality was the norm and men didn't dominate women.


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[Assistant] She had promised Charles she would return that evening. She quickly packed her bags, paid the bill, ordered a carriage, and left.


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[Assistant] When she arrived home, Felicite was waiting for her.


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[Assistant] You've got to go to Monsieur Homay immediately, Madame. It's something important. She went to the Homay's. The family was in the kitchen making jam.


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[Assistant] Justin was standing quietly as the chemists screamed at him.


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[Assistant] What is it? What is the matter? asked Emil.


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[Assistant] Emma turned to Madame Homay. They told me to come. Oh yes, it's bad news. Madame Homay began. She couldn't continue. The chemist was screaming at his assistant. Empty it.


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[Assistant] Monsieur Bovary Sr. died quite suddenly two days ago. Out of a careful respect for Emma's feelings,


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[Assistant] Charles had asked that Monsieur Homme tell Emma the news. Homme had thought of a speech full of tenderness.


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[Assistant] To tell Emma that her dear father-in-law had died, but Romay, in his anger, had forgotten his speech. Emma left. The chemist continued to scold Justin.


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[Assistant] Charles, who had been waiting for Emma to return, walked to her with open arms.


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[Assistant] He said, with tears in his eyes, Yes, I know, I know, she said to him. At dinner, Charles said little, unmoving, looking quite depressed.


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[Assistant] He said, with a sigh, she was silent. Eventually, however, she thought she should say something. How old was he?


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[Assistant] Yes. They finished dinner and continued to sit at the table.


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[Assistant] She became quite bored with sitting in silence. She looked at her husband. He seemed so weak, pitiable in every way. Would this evening never end?


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[Assistant] Next day his mother arrived. She and her son cried many tears and Emma disappeared, saying she had housework to do.