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[Assistant] That's what it is. It was terrible. But in my chat, the entire first half, people are going off on Derek Henry. I drafted him in fantasy. He is garbage. He's trash. And then the second half, he's just like, okay.


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[Assistant] Okay, and just destroys them. So, yes, my man was, I like to think Derek Henry was in the chat and he saw that and so, uh, you're welcome. You're welcome.


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[Assistant] I would say, uh, plus fifteen hundred. That's a good guess right there.


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[Assistant] I know, but their defense is that good and I think Jonathan Taylor is going to kind of come back a little bit. Not with the past two weeks they have.


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[Assistant] Colts 2! Let's do it! Colts 2! What are we doing? Alright, so, Scooter. So, the bet is, the Indianapolis Colts will have a better record than the Falcons. Yes? We're good? That's what it's gonna be? Okay. Cool, cool, cool. Alright, what are we putting on this one? Chat. Let us know.


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[Assistant] I want, I want something. I want blood. I want, cause we already got a bet going on, so it's gotta be elevated.


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[Assistant] By the way, did you see the Kedarius Tony super quick? Did you guys see that tweet that it was just like, hey you, yes you sitting right there. You have more yards than Kedarius Tony because he has a negative two right now.


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[Assistant] You can't really trust anything, uh, behind that old line, but I, but I think he'll, uh, he'll pick himself up and, uh, and, uh, you know, by week six, uh, he'll be a little bit better, uh, but then week 70 might be hurt again because of the old line.


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[Assistant] That's one. Two, uhm, excuse me. Listen, folks, as many of you know, uhm, I'm no longer, uh, professionally teaching. However,


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[Assistant] Uh, that is actually not Buddha. Uh, Buddha's actually a skinny guy from India. That's who died, uh, from China. So I just wanted to make that clarification. Thank you. Who knew?


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[Assistant] I was thinking we could, we had a wager, uhm, with Scooter, and I thought that I had, if, uh, this wager goes through in which the Falcons...


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[Assistant] Can we speak about one thing very quickly, uhm, that I think is very important?


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[Assistant] Monday night, I'm up 48 points. I had Derek Henry. He was destroying. And they only had two people left.


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[Assistant] And, uh, I just want to say, uh, Tom Grassi is still going to win the Fantasy Football League. Uh, so watch your butts.


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[Assistant] We got the Q&A tomorrow. Oh, we got GPS of course tomorrow morning, 11am.


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[Assistant] Hey listen, I gotta go with Tanner Bybee. Uh, listen, he pitched, he got roughed up a little bit the first game, his last outing, uh, lights out. You know, I love the fact


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[Assistant] Uh, that this guy can give you so much movement on his pitches. He has the sneakiest fastball in the game.


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[Assistant] Right, you look at him on the mound, you don't look like he's a guy that's gonna blow it by you, but he gets guys looking, he gets guys swinging, and when you have Gavin Williams being out, Tristan McKenzie is looking a little shaky, we don't know what's going on with this hoe.


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[Assistant] You're counting on a guy that's, that's second or third in your rotation, uh, to, to have good outings. And I think he's a real big reason why the Guardians could potentially make a run because think about it, this guy is what? Maybe third?


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[Assistant] Got third guy in the rotation, fourth guy. And if you can get a guy like him throwing the ball as well as he's threw last outing, I think the guardians are in good shape if they can keep him throwing the baseball well.


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[Assistant] If you go on a, on a big street where you're, you're the, got the best record in the American league, and at the trade deadline, you got Shane Bieber pitching this well. Or you keep him.


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[Assistant] I think a guy that's kind of gone under the radar a little bit, they picked up his fifth gear options, his jet wheels.


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[Assistant] Uhm, he's had an up and down type, uh, career so far early in his career. He played pretty well his rookie season. He's had some down years and then last year he was injured. Uhm, they had to bring tackles in off the street. Obviously Jed Wills was better than those guys, but we need to figure out whether Jed Wills


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[Assistant] Is going to be your future left tackle. Is he going to be the guy that you plug and play or do you need to get back on the market and do and find somebody else? I think that right now in the position, you got three tackles. You got Conklin who was always injured, but they did give him an extension.


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[Assistant] You got Dewan Jones, who I believe could possibly be, still in my mind, your future left tackle. And you got Jed Wills. You need to find two guys to play three, you know, two guys, out of those three, two guys to start in those positions. So I think it's a big one for Jed Wills, uhm, if he can come out.


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[Assistant] No, uhm, I don't feel the same about the team. You look at the makeup of the team and I'm starting to really question whether or not they have the right pieces and parts to even...


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[Assistant] Darius Garland just does not look like Darius. He just doesn't look right. He looks like, you know.


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[Assistant] He looks like a shell of himself. Uhm, you know, the one bright spot is Evan Mobley's been more aggressive. He looks like he's taking more threes outside shots. But the problem is, is Donovan Mitchell. Donovan Mitchell is playing on one leg. It's obvious. He doesn't have the explosiveness. Uh, he can't get by anybody. And you can tell he's laboring out there. Without Donovan Mitchell,


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[Assistant] The best thing that happened was him being out and proving to people in Cleveland that they thought that, okay, if Donovan Mitchell just walks and goes away,


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[Assistant] In free agency, we still have Garland and Mobley and Allen and we'll still be able to peddle and we'll still be able to be contenders. We've seen that. That's not the case. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] G-Boys, you had an interesting day yesterday. Tell us about it. Yea, man. Went out to, uh, left these, uh, cheesesteaks. I had to check out Deshaun Watson. Uh, he had, uh, an event at his grand opening. So we pulled up me and Earl the Pearl from the Ultimate 216 and, uh, we had to check out and see what they was talking about. Here's a little, a little footage of the event.


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[Assistant] Is that coming? That is coming on the menu. Good. We also spoke to the mayor of Cleveland Heights. He was in the building. Really? We talked to him. He talked about how we got, I think that's coming on the Ultimate 216.


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[Assistant] Talked about how they chose that location. One to ten, how was the sandwich? One to ten, I'm gonna give it a nine point two. The only reason that I didn't give it a nine and a half was because I didn't have my lettuce. They ran out of lettuce, it was so packed in there. Oh, nice. They were doing it big, so they were a little short on that. The key with the cheesesteak is it juicy. Oh listen, the cheesesteak was like,


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[Assistant] It was just, it was almost so much, it was so much cheese on there with slimy cheese. I loved it. I was like, man, you always can tell what a great cheesesteak tastes like by the grease.


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[Assistant] We will be showing the full length video. We got about a 10 minute video that will be airing on Wednesday so you guys can come over, check it out and we'll give you the behind the scenes look.


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[Assistant] Could be. Listen, I think this Final Four has all the makings of a great weekend. Uh, they have the, uh, Women's Final Four has it all. Rockstars, Perfect Records, Cinderella's and Champions. But at the end of the day, I'm taking South Carolina and it's 30, they're undefeated. Yeah. Uh, they're solid. They're going to get it done. Shout out to Don Staley. I'm taking the Gamecocks.


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[Assistant] Director Steve today, he'll make a camera appearance tomorrow, but he's a little cocky right now, I'm not gonna lie. He walked in yesterday, big chested, now Tyvis is in here, and he's feeling like he owns the place, so I am revoking his camera today.


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[Assistant] We're going to get to that in one sec. I just want to give a little people a preview of tomorrow's 500. We do have a couple of special things planned. We'll find a way to get Jason and Tyvis involved. Uh, we have what we're calling the bonk list, which we will unveil, which is some out of context.


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[Assistant] Quotes put together in compilation that sound a lot funnier than they actually were in the moment. We're going to do a top five funniest moments list from the history of the show. We'll do the top five best and most significant moments from the history of the show. We got Joe Thomas coming on. We're bringing back some blasts from some guests from the past to incorporate it to the show. So it's going to be a fun.


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[Assistant] Jam-packed edition and we'll make sure you guys tune in. Appreciate all you guys too who have supported us through 499 shows and tomorrow will be our 500th. We'll talk, Cavs!


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[Assistant] And today's winning ticket comes from Bobby Rhodes.


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[Assistant] And he says, boy, you're on a heater. He took your Bet Rivers pick.


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[Assistant] He's two for two with those and he turned $20 into $155.


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[Assistant] They're 17 for 72 from beyond the arc in two games. And somehow it feels worse than that. Oh, it does. Like they've made 17 threes in two games. It feels significantly worse than that. But 17 of 72 is an absolutely horrific number. And we said after game one, Orlando can't shoot worse. Well.


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[Assistant] What the Cavs are doing that I think has been a really good adjustment from JB and he deserves a ton of kudos. It's two games. They still got a long way to go, but he has severely out coached Jamal Mosley in this year's. They're starting the offense way far out, Jason. And part of the reason for that is I think they anticipated the Blitz is coming.


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[Assistant] And it's really hard to blitz with that much room to operate on the backside. And also...


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[Assistant] When they're running these high picking roles, mostly with Donovan, a little bit with Darius, they're playing drop coverage for the most part.


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[Assistant] But when you're dropping off from 35 feet away from the basket, that's giving Donovan a ton of space to attack and get ahead of steam before he's making a move on a Bankero or a Jonathan Isaac. And when he gets going...


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[Assistant] He's damn near impossible to stop, you know, and it's tough to try to corral him 30 feet from the basket with a big, like it's just a tough matchup. So the Cavs have actually expanded their offense, started setting up their, their.


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[Assistant] Primary sets further away from the basket, which is spaced out Orlando's defense, which is a way to neutralize their length and athleticism. And I think that's been a really good adjustment. They started blitzing in the fourth quarter. I haven't gone back and watched the film yet to see what kind of worked and what didn't work.


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[Assistant] One more thing on game three before we move on to a completely separate topic related to game three.


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[Assistant] When the Cavs made the trade for Donovan Mitchell, they were trading for a guy who when push came to shove,


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[Assistant] When defense is locked down, a guy that can create shots, and you mentioned Palo earlier, uh, Bull.


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[Assistant] Jason Tivas Bowl, I'm curious if you guys feel the same way, but through two games.


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[Assistant] There's only one guy I feel confident against these two defenses that can consistently create a good look, regardless of the situation. It's only been Donovan Mitchell. And that's literally been the difference in the Cavs winning two games and losing two games. They have a guy who, when push comes to shove, whether it's late in the shot clock, whether it's off a designed set, can not only create a good look for himself or someone else.


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[Assistant] As opposed to Orlando who is fighting, clawing and scratching just to get even a contested look. Right.


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[Assistant] So we're gonna talk about a little different thing that happened last night in game two, but a quick reminder that today's episode of the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show is sponsored by Better Health.


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[Assistant] One thing I love about Cleveland and I've known, I've noticed this across all sports is they like to find a guy that they like to hate. And in this series, it's become Mo Wagner, Jason Tivus Bull.


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[Assistant] First off, before we get into how he compares to other hated Cleveland opponents.


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[Assistant] What do you think of Mo Wagner as a player and as a character going against the Cleveland Cavaliers?


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[Assistant] I'll pull out the video, the only playoff game I ever covered in my life, prior to Saturday.


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[Assistant] But you know what's funny about this whole thing though? At the end of the first quarter yesterday, Wendell Carter Jr. threw a cheap shot elbow at Donovan. So did.


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[Assistant] So before we move on to our third and final Cavs topic of the day, I put in the YouTube chat, how much do you hate Mo Wagner? A little bit, a lot, or I don't hate him. What do you think the results of the poll are?


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[Assistant] 22% for a lot. And 51%. Jason was right. So shout out to Jason. He is now one of the YouTube chat. He is, he is one. This is two in a row where he's gotten correct. That's right. I have. Yeah.


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[Assistant] Boy, you apologize this morning. Second time in two weeks. This is like a marriage, man. Explain yourself.


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[Assistant] No, and it wouldn't have been if B didn't get hurt. So that's kind of the-


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[Assistant] We will, and if you want to hear more Cavs talk, Jason and I are doing an Ultimate Cav Show today at 5 o'clock. We're going to talk about the Cavs perception. Have they changed it in two games? We're going to play a new game. You guys heard of Good Cop, Bad Cop? We're going to do Good Cav, Bad Cav.


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[Assistant] And take both sides of a couple of different pressing questions related to the cast. We'll talk about some game three adjustments, maybe do a little film study, but that is coming up today at five o'clock. So if you want more cast talk, make sure you guys tune in today at five.


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[Assistant] Has Josh Naylor surpassed Jose Ramirez as the most dangerous bat in the Guardians lineup?


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[Assistant] And Miles is with the A's, that's my bed. It's not both brothers, just one brother. My bed.


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[Assistant] I got a question and then Mike Hargrove is supposed to be joining us here any second.


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[Assistant] Jason, what is the number the guardians can offer Nailer where he would say, okay, I'm not even gonna consider testing the open market.


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[Assistant] If you guys haven't seen this clip of Jameis Winston, I'm going to add this to the list of reasons why you guys will love Jameis Winston, why he's going to be a fan favorite in Cleveland. This is Jameis interviewing a fish.


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[Assistant] Uh, we still don't have Mike Hargrove, so you guys wanna talk a little NFL Draft as we wait?


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[Assistant] Fight this weekend. He had Garcia winning.


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[Assistant] The NFL Draft is on Thursday, Bull. We're gonna, we're gonna save yourself from embarrassment as a boxing man. You gotta start watching boxing. Nah, boxing's dead.


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[Assistant] With the Browns on the clock at 54, I wanted to do a big picture look at Andrew Berry. We know he's hit on defensive backs. We know he has not hit on one of the receivers. What other position groups outside of those two do you have the most confidence in Andrew Berry and the Browns as a collection? Identifying talent at the positions they're selected.


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[Assistant] Wait, can I say one thing on Greg Newsom real quick? The D.B.'s picked right after him. Yea. In the first and second round after him. Eric Stokes of Green Bay. He's okay. Tyson Campbell of Jacksonville. Richie Grant of Atlanta. Campbell's good.


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[Assistant] Kelvin Joseph of Dallas, Asante Samuel Jr.


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[Assistant] But anyway. I got the draft class, hold on, this is going to fascinate me. Bennett, uh, Ben, Ben McLemore. Yes, it was McLemore.


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[Assistant] Download the game time app today. Last minute tickets, lowest prices, guaranteed. And with that, we welcome in Chris Rose to the show. How you doing today, Chris?


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[Assistant] Mikey Mcduggets. Chris, when you look back at your history as a Browns fan, let's go at least the last 10-15 years in recent relative history.


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[Assistant] Who was the draft pick you loved at the moment that didn't pan out? And a draft pick for the Browns, you're like, eh, I don't really like that, but you ended up being wrong on.


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[Assistant] I gotta get one last read in, then we gotta super chat, then I'm gonna do the Greg Newsome exercise that we passed on earlier, but I think with five minutes left it'll be good to do.


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[Assistant] Today's show is sponsored by BetterHelp. What's the first thing you'd do if you had an extra hour in the day? Go for a run, take a nap, read a book. A lot of us spend our times wishing we had more time. The question is, time for what?


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[Assistant] Time was unlimited, how would you use it? The best way to squeeze that special thing into your schedule is to know what's important to you and make it a priority and therapy can help you find out what matters to you so you can do more of it.


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[Assistant] That is better help. H-E-L-P dot com slash locked on. Our one super chat of the day bowl. Yeah. Comes from, if this will load.


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[Assistant] Comes from Halim Yusuf. Okay. Talk about Moe Wagner. Moe Wagner. Moe tried to come in and bully our players when we were looking for them to stand up and show physicality. It magnifies the hate.


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[Assistant] Bear assessment? Okay. Alright. So we mentioned Greg Newsome earlier. He was the 21st pick.


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[Assistant] And, and I need you to count. So get, get a, get a pencil or a tally. How many guys we think are bona fide? Yes, that player is a better, just overall player than Greg Newsom to see where his overall value comes in.


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[Assistant] I'm just, I'm gonna go through the obvious yeses so we can count the obvious yeses to see kind of what range. Alright. Uh, Jalen Waddle. Yeah. Yeah. Panay Sewell. Yes. JC Horn.


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[Assistant] He's still with the Jets. Najee Harris. Who? Najee Harris.


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[Assistant] Oh, they're not, 25 players picked in the first round. We'll go through the whole draft. I'll tell you, I think Greg Newsome, value article.


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[Assistant] My point is, if you were to take the best 26 players in the draft, Greg Newsom is in the top 26.


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[Assistant] Say that again? Creed Humphrey, Center for the Chiefs. Oh, way better.


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[Assistant] Uh, Anthony has 10 yeses and he is. I stopped paying attention 5 minutes ago. Go ahead. Amanrassain Brown. Way better. Stop it. I'm scrolling. There's not a lot of guys in the fourth round.


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[Assistant] As the next team to win a championship in the city of Cleveland, mark your bingo card appropriately.


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[Assistant] I checked their website, so there's a real coordinated effort to get the Cleveland Crunch coverage.


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[Assistant] I got five or six random email on my WKYC, uh, account from seven o'clock this morning to about, uh, they're still coming in. So it must've been a couple of big diehard fans said, let's inundate the media so we can get some coverage.


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[Assistant] I went to the Cleveland Crunch website and they hadn't even yet updated that they won the championship yesterday.


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[Assistant] Uh, they are an indoor soccer team. I remember like the old Cleveland Crunch. They won a championship, I looked this up, they won a championship in 1994. So this is actually the 30th anniversary. I vaguely remember the 94, I think I remember that. And then they moved. Am I right Ant? You're gonna have to help me on this bro.


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[Assistant] Well, they wanted coverage. Like I said, there was this coordinated effort to get some coverage for the Cleveland Crimes.


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[Assistant] Before I was gonna say anything, I wanted to make sure they indeed won.


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[Assistant] Cleveland crunch wins semi-finals clinches spot in finals. Oh my goodness.


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[Assistant] I mean, if the, if the own website run by the team doesn't have updated this morning that they've won a championship, come on. They probably have like


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[Assistant] And I always respect the grind of minor league sports teams. I always, always respect the grind. First of all, a heartfelt congratulations. Whatever league you're in, if you win it, it's noteworthy. So congratulations to the Cleveland Crunch. And we do now have another championship banner to fly over the city of Cleveland.


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[Assistant] Anyhow, welcome to the program. Our Cleveland Cavaliers are, uh, in the playoffs. Asterisk. Huge asterisk. We're gonna get into that.


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[Assistant] They had a big big win yesterday that I had quite frankly already put in the L column. Uhm, so they kind of snatched that win from the jaws of defeat. We'll talk about that and the fact that they avoided the sweep, which is always good. Also, we're going to do our mock draft. Mikey, you want to explain how this is going? We went to the ESPN mock draft site and we all did one, right? So we're going to compare the results.


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[Assistant] Very well done. Yea, Tax Day. All the players in Major League Baseball will wear number 42 today, right? Yea. Correct. In all the games.


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[Assistant] Which I think is one of the, I mean, how can you pay tribute to a single player? I think it's the single biggest.


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[Assistant] Yeah, I remember uhm, I think it was his son.


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[Assistant] Wrote a book. There was some, somebody, we had a guest on Cold Pizza and Larry Dobie's relative and one, I think maybe the author of the book came in and I remember that story always sticks with me about a story that they chronicle in the book.


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[Assistant] Where they were playing Washington Senators and Larry had to stay in another hotel.


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[Assistant] So we couldn't even stay with his teammates. And this is the part, this is the most, I get a mental image of this and it is absolutely heartbreaking, gut wrenching that this happened in some people that we know as lifetimes. This man would have to put his full uniform, including his spikes on, at the hotel.


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[Assistant] Tens of thousands of fans. It's unbelievable that that happened.


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[Assistant] It really is truly unbelievable. So to Jackie, major shout out and on this day I always like to mention Larry too. Yeaah.


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[Assistant] And he wanted me, my dad played center field, he wanted me to play center field.


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[Assistant] And I always asked why, and he goes, because Larry Doby played center field. Wow. And no one played it better, so.


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[Assistant] So wait, the choices were scaredy cat or chicken shit?


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[Assistant] But I want you to start, Jayce, because you know way more.


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[Assistant] And this did not happen in JB's office alone. JB did not make this decision.


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[Assistant] You are, but Jace, I think it's obvious.


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[Assistant] The longer each team plays, the more likelihood that one of their stars gets hurt. So if they play four games in their first series and win in a sweep, there's four chances for them to lose a key piece. Then they see the Cavs.


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[Assistant] If they see the Cavs in the finals and not the Eastern Conference finals,


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[Assistant] Or semi-easter conference, semi-finals, or easter conference finals. Right. There's five, six, maybe seven more opportunities for them to lose a key wheel.


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[Assistant] You know, on the progress end of it, if they beat Orlando and lose to the Celtics and then have their post-mortem news conference and anybody tries to stand up there and say, look, we made progress, you know, we went another round.


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[Assistant] You can tell me you're a cat, but if you walk on two feet and you don't have a tail, you're not a cat.


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[Assistant] I don't, I can tell with my own two eyes what you are. But they did it last year. They lost the first round and said, but hey, we won 51 games. Sure they did. And guess what? I didn't buy that either.


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[Assistant] These are nice moves. This is a better basketball team. And they never found the gel, with the exception of that 18 and 2, which they kind of stepped in by accident. And as soon as they were full strength again, the team, the season was over. The team was not as good.


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[Assistant] Now I know Donovan Mitchell's injury after the All-Star break had a lot to do with that. But to me...


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[Assistant] I love to watch sports and winners and how they operate. I just love it. I'm fascinated by winner's mentality and loser's mentality.


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[Assistant] They lost that because they had a loser's mentality. They took their foot off the gas, they stopped pressing the action, and they were hoping that they could hold on till the very end. Well that's the recipe to lose, we all know that.


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[Assistant] I feel better being a fan of the Knicks because here's why. There's, and this is, I don't know if this has ever happened. I don't know how we looked this up.


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[Assistant] The difference between the two seed and the eight seed. Four games.


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[Assistant] I've never seen, I can't remember a time that's ever happened. Any division.


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[Assistant] That's my point. I would be able to swallow losing in the first round to, by the way, a team that I think is better than them. I do, I do.


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[Assistant] I just think they are. I don't think they're better by much. But I think Philly at full strength is a better team.


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[Assistant] There is honor in taking on the champion and you gave it your best effort.


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[Assistant] How teams that have built dynasties, I loved watching the Bulls during their dynasty. And it doesn't just mean basketball could be any sport. I loved watching Tiger when he was the front running throat slashing king. He didn't, he, man, you talk about no prisoners, that he wrote the book.


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[Assistant] Yesterday, Scottie Scheffler, in a three hole span, went birdie birdie birdie. He was down the leaderboard. Birdie birdie birdie.


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[Assistant] Does it matter what anybody else behind him? What's Max Homa doing? Oh, he just put one out of bounds. Does- I don't care.


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[Assistant] That doesn't affect me. I am going to play, and that's what champions do. In my estimation, champions don't give a rat's ass about who the competition is and what they're doing.


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[Assistant] We're gonna do our game. We're gonna inflict our game, our style on you and you see if you can keep up. That's what winners do.


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[Assistant] I get it, you take a series win. Like, in the grand scheme of things, no one here started the year by saying


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[Assistant] God, if we can just make the second round. Right. If we can make the second round, we're gonna have a parade.


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[Assistant] Nobody thinks that way. And here's the thing, I would say this to you.


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[Assistant] Had the Cavs nailed the two and lost to Philly in the first round. You know what I would say? What an awful break. They got Philly at full strength and in truth, they're not a better team than Philly. They're just not.


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[Assistant] Yeah. So they lost to a team that was better than them. It's how you play it. Are you gonna, is the first round, uh, series seven games this year? Yeah.


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[Assistant] If you're the Cavs and you make it to the finals, there is solace in that. That's a consolation win. Because now you know, coming into next year, if you can maybe add a piece, now you're looking at things saying, we're in the upper echelon, we're in the top four, so we're in a pretty good spot. Top two.


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[Assistant] But the way the East is configured, like I said, I can't remember a year where there was four games that separated all these teams. There's Boston, and then there's everybody else.


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[Assistant] I looked at the West yesterday, I don't know how it finished out.


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[Assistant] I believe the difference between 2 and 8 in the West is 10 games. Where in the East... Technically, yeaah.


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[Assistant] Okay, but, well, yesterday when I looked, I thought there was 10 games difference.


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[Assistant] I don't know how everything shook out yesterday, but my point here is


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[Assistant] If, if you've got four, eight, six, seven teams within four games of one another, that's a blender. That's a crap shoot.


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[Assistant] Philly is the wild card. Miami also, I love the way Miami plays it. Miami's like, we're good.


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[Assistant] You know why? Because Pat Riley and now Spoh are smart enough. They've been through the battles. They get this. You're gonna win an extra 20 games to get one more game at home?


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[Assistant] And by the way, this is the time of year where the coaching now matters. For sure.


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[Assistant] Honestly, I don't think there's anything the Cavs can do short of beating Boston in the second round that saves anyone's job. To me, when they blew the 26 point lead to the Clippers, if I own the team, I am done. I'm not going to fire them right then. You don't want a new coach going into the playoffs.


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[Assistant] I've made up my mind. You want to keep your job? Make it to the finals. Make it to the East Finals.


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[Assistant] Because then the trading team would have longer control.


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[Assistant] No, no, I'm saying if they sign to him, he does an extension.


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[Assistant] Hey, uh, way off topic, and I know we got, we're gonna switch after the break to talk about their chances against Orlando and how this series plays out. Way off topic. Where does LeBron play next year?


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[Assistant] Okay, that's what I feel too. And then what if the remaining 2030 go to Cleveland?


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[Assistant] I mean, that's, I do think that, like, LeBron always used to say, and still believes, just get me in. Just get me in. Like, LeBron's not in this to make it to the West Finals. And you know what?


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[Assistant] I love that guy's trying to throw dirt on him. Like, Lebron is just smart. He's old and he's smart now. And he's like, yea, I'll cruise control at 60% of my


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[Assistant] Accelerator. And I know when it's go time. And I'll have plenty in the reserve when I need it. He can't do it every night anymore.


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[Assistant] As, as fascinating as these matchups are because everyone finished so close, I can't take my eyes off the West. And LeBron.


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[Assistant] I don't believe, I still think they're all fool's gold. I think they're regular season, products of the regular season.


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[Assistant] I don't know, Minnesota, okay, okay, see, I just, I'm not buying them.


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[Assistant] If you think of like in American history, the first real magnets in this country


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[Assistant] Were the Vanderbilts were the folks that said control transportation and you control everything. That's exactly right. And they built the railroads and those folks, I mean, you talk about wealth beyond...


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[Assistant] It's like Jeff Bezos back in the day.


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[Assistant] Uhm, I gotta tell ya, I think it's gonna be a close series. Uhm, I think they split the regular season 2 and 2, right? Yes. Uhm, I'm gonna say Cavs in 6 or 7. I think, I think that's where I'm going here. And, Orlando's a tough team though. Like, I just, I just feel like


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[Assistant] And the style of basketball is, like, I agree with you. Like, if you like up and down and a lot of scoring, this isn't for you.


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[Assistant] Defense and toughness in the playoff. I love, I love both in the playoffs. I think you need both to make deep runs. Uh, I do think the Cavs have the defensive element. Uhm, I just, they, they lack the toughness. And we'll see. They, they said all the right things after the game yesterday.


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[Assistant] You know, about, you know, we're going to be tough. We're going to take it too long. Uh, let's see. One thing about it.


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[Assistant] The ultimate question before you answer smart or chicken shit.


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[Assistant] Anybody that says this was smart, they're okay with the team objective being win one series and that's a good, that's a win. The objective? And my objective is no.


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[Assistant] You didn't do, you didn't play this season. You didn't make the moves you made. You don't have Donovan Mitchell on here to win a series. You are a team that has aspirations to win a championship. You're a team that went 18 and 2 in a 20 game stretch with the largest margin of victory, average margin of victory,


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[Assistant] I'll put it into perspective. I, I was, uh, I worked in Tampa from 98 to 03. 98 was their first season. I remember going to their inaugural game.


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[Assistant] Uhm, every time the Yankees came to town, and I'm not exaggerating this, this is when they were drawing, even in year one, they were drawing like twenty, twenty two thousand.


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[Assistant] Their fans are there, in force. And it reminds me of the Yankees. And I hate it too, I'm with you. No one here is old enough to remember Pete Franklin. You might remember the name. I remember, yeaah. But I'm old enough to remember listening to Pete Franklin. And Pete Franklin started something called the I Hate the Yankee Hankies.


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[Assistant] 3WE was the radio station that Pete Franklin worked at and he had a...


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[Assistant] Well, the I hate the Yankee hankie became a thing, and that was when the municipal stadium would hold 75,000 fans.


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[Assistant] It reminds me of, it's a sore spot for me because it reminds me of being in that building for game seven when the Cubs took over. That to me is un-


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[Assistant] Anybody I know that owns season tickets, they're not scraping up that money to go. They had a one off opportunity to watch the biggest game in the franchise history. Game 7 against the Marlins was in Miami. This is literally a once in a lifetime situation.


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[Assistant] I don't know that it was published anywhere, but his Facebook page, but he's pissed. Basically, and I thought I had a right to say it to the fans. Where were you when we needed you most?


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[Assistant] I'll say this, as big as a win can be on April 14th. And I'll preface all of that by saying what matters most is what they do in the next five to seven days. I would have hated to think


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[Assistant] Cutter Crawford, by the way, twirling the ball for the Red Sox today. He's having a great year.


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[Assistant] No, he's, he's having a great year. Boston's pitching is really good. Our pitching has been, uh, better than I expected once Bieber went out. I'm like, Oh God, this is going to go south quickly. But so to answer your original question,


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[Assistant] It felt like a loss when they gave up the run in the 9th and then the 2 in the 10th. I'm like, this is just, this is going to be a sweep and they're going to limp the Boston with their tails between their legs. And I think, and again, I don't want to overstate it because it's the 14th game. It's April 14th. So I don't want to make too much of it. However, in a young manager's career,


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[Assistant] This game is even more pivotal. You don't want to go into Boston losers of three straight to the first real team that you've played. I know Minnesota and Seattle better than Oakland.


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[Assistant] Uhm, and Chicago, but let's face it, the Yankees are in a different class, and for them to salvage something, and the way they want it,


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[Assistant] They had every opportunity to just wilt and go away. Yep. And they didn't do that. They came out in that 10th inning and they were scrapping and they put together the rally. So as big a win as you can have this early in the season in my view.


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[Assistant] So they had the bases loaded, there was a hard hit ball to third. No way, no way they're gonna get a triple play on that. But the throw to second was high. It brought Jimenez, who by the way, moments earlier got his, uh, gold glove.


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[Assistant] The throw to second was high, he jumped to get it, and his foot was not on the bag.


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[Assistant] Uh, no, so I'm trying to think who the next hitter was.


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[Assistant] Honest to God, I felt this way during the playoffs a couple of years ago. But...


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[Assistant] I think they're lined up now with Soto. It's even better. You look at it and you're like, this is an all-star.


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[Assistant] And that makes it so much easier because now you can't pitch around Judge and Stanton and Soto. And that might be, that's the murderer's row of the old 27 Yankees.


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[Assistant] I would too. And that includes Otani. These guys, Soto, first of all, Soto, what I love about him is, they showed during the game Saturday the exit velocity for, I think it's the top five guys in Major League Baseball.


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[Assistant] He is so, his wrists are so strong.


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[Assistant] And in that stadium this year, I mean, if he stays healthy, how many home runs can he get? It's, it's, you know, the short porch.


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[Assistant] But, huge win, uh, the pitching, let's do this, cause I actually gave some thought to this. That's how dumb I am. On one to ten, where are you on comfort level with the starting pitching?


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[Assistant] I'm really concerned. So, Tristan is not Tristan. Nope. There's just something wrong. I know he was effective in his second start. He could not throw strikes at all. Now he did settle in a little bit on Saturday. But to me, the telling stat for him is ball to strike ratio.


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[Assistant] I, I know personally myself, when I, when I'm not throwing strikes, it's not because I can't.


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[Assistant] It's because I don't want to. I'm afraid. I'm afraid to put the ball in the sweet spot of the strike zone because of what's gonna happen. And I typically get that way when my arm isn't right. I know, and he knows, he was like at 90.


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[Assistant] And that is not, look, you can't do that today. I don't care how good your curveball is. I don't care how good your change up is. If your best pitch is coming in there at 90 miles an hour, and he knows that, that's why he had 6 walks and 4 innings. He doesn't trust his stuff.


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[Assistant] And that's terrifying. Do you think he's regretting not getting the surgery? I think probably he is. I would be if I were him.


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[Assistant] I know nobody knows, but a hypothesis, like what were some things that he's putting forward for why we're seeing the number of injuries?


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[Assistant] And you know as well as I do, that's become


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[Assistant] The catch phrase. So for hitting it was launch angle, remember? When analytics bombarded the game, well what's your launch angle? And guys were literally, well not guys, baseball. They were changing the way they swing the bat.


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[Assistant] I remember talking to Josh Bell about this in spring training last year and he literally said, I'm not sure.


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[Assistant] He was a guy, when you watched him swing, his swing looked like a rusty gate. He looked like his hands were backwards. And the reason it looked, the reason he looked so off, he told me this. He said,


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[Assistant] Everybody's preaching launch angle. It might work for some guys. It's just not working for me. My focus this year is going to be line drives. Now, I'm wondering if the guardians didn't get to him and say, no, no, no, no, no, Josh. That's not the way we're doing it.


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[Assistant] Launch angle. We're preaching launch angle. Because he had no success here. And I know he told me he was going back to a level swing and he wanted more line drives. But I didn't see that from him. I saw the same hitch up.


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[Assistant] Look, I just experiment with this stuff because I like to, it's, it's, I like to do it. I like to consider myself sort of a scientist. When it comes with the baseball, I like to experiment. I, I, I try inventing pitches. I literally have. It didn't work, but I tried it. But when spin rate became the thing, I'm like, you know,


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[Assistant] I have no way of measuring my spin, right? I don't have that equipment. But I know when a ball tumbles out of my hand and I know when a ball comes out what I call whistling. And you can feel it. And it all has to do with pressure and also arm slot and launch and everything else. And I don't know that that isn't what's leading


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[Assistant] Everybody's chasing that number. Everybody. And the spin rate in baseball has gone up exponentially. And I'm just wondering, to spin it,


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[Assistant] Becoming more dominant in the delivery of the baseball. You're enacting and using those parts of your arm more than you are your shoulder. And I don't know what the breakdown is, but it seems to me totally anecdotal. I'm reading about elbows everywhere. And it used to be shoulders.


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[Assistant] Big time division one prospects. None of them pitched in the major leagues. One of them advanced pretty far through the minor leagues.


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[Assistant] I knew an orthopedic surgeon in my town and he knew that I pitched and he'd asked me about injuries that I'd had and he said, you know what kids are asking for? I've got parents of 16 and 17 year old boys coming in saying,


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[Assistant] In fact, one of his kids was the one that advanced way deep into the minor leagues.


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[Assistant] He said, that's unethical, I would never, ever do that. But I'm sure if you look around enough, you can find a doctor that will gladly do and take your $30,000 and do the surgery.


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[Assistant] I knew they pitched him a AAA, but I thought, well they're going to want to stretch him out because they're going to need him to be a starter. Is he still on the mound for them?


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[Assistant] He's at 45 pitches right now, and he's through the fourth. So, I would stretch it. And he threw a 58 mic in Columbus.


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[Assistant] I'd give him 65 to 70 today, and if that's the case, at this rate, he could get through the 6. That would be huge. Now, the Guardians aren't hitting.


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[Assistant] And that's a problem. Who's pitching for Boston today? Cutter? Cutter Crawford. And he's having a, he's having like an all-star type season.


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[Assistant] And, and, and, this is the biggest if, if Tristan can


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[Assistant] Hump up his fastball and look, did he say he's pitching in any pain?


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[Assistant] But he said it's always in the back of my head. What's fascinating, I was just gonna say this Jason, what is so fascinating to me is the psychology of sport. We've talked about it a million times. I'm gonna throw Wednesday for the first time. I've done drills, uhm, like there's a drill where you


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[Assistant] Reach back and the therapist throws a ball and you catch it.


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[Assistant] And you pull all the way down. You don't let go, you don't throw it, but it's a catch. And what you're doing, they're working on the brakes.


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[Assistant] As to what's, how it's gonna go. What's, what, how's it gonna feel? And I don't have tens of millions of dollars on the line. It's just my passion and what I love to do more than anything in the world.


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[Assistant] So, going into Wednesday, I don't know what I'm going to feel like when the ball is in my hand and I'm looking at the ball that the catcher has made.


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[Assistant] Where I'm gonna throw. I have no idea. But when I'm watching him.


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[Assistant] I'm looking at him saying, he either is in pain,


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[Assistant] And you're telling me he's not, and I believe you, I believe him if he told you that. I think it's all mental then.


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[Assistant] But the chicken or the egg in hitting, guys aren't chasing because he's not throwing strikes.


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[Assistant] And so, like, it's one thing to live on the edge as like a Greg Maddux did. Right.


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[Assistant] Uh, guys learn very quickly, oh, he's gonna get that call, I've gotta chase.


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[Assistant] He's not throwing the ball on the edges. He's missing by a lot. I watched him Saturday and I'm just like, I don't even recognize him. And I feel so badly for him. Because he didn't get that big payday.


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[Assistant] I think he'll get the opportunity, but he's a fandy guy, right?


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[Assistant] And I felt like he's floated around. He never lived up to his, his hope.


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[Assistant] And to me, I almost felt like, oh, Vought's doing him a solid because he's a Vandy guy.


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[Assistant] And not to say he doesn't believe in him, but he's, you know, he probably said, hey, you know, let's take a look at him, see what we got. Just like you said, Carrasco was intended to be a feel-good story and now he's like, oh, grab a, grab a ball and a glove cause you're, we need to grab an axe and a hose.


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[Assistant] Uhm, not, you know, he hasn't been better than I thought he would be, but I don't know how a guy changes his stripes in his tenth professional season.


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[Assistant] I was just curious, like I said. Listen, if you're gonna lose, let's get some miles on the tires. Let's, you know. Yeaah. And I know that can damage a pitcher's psyche, but the guy's been around for 10 years.


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[Assistant] Not so much in his, cause Cade Smith, big tall kid, throws hard as hell. I like him, I think he might have had some jitters, probably didn't have enough time to think about it, and it was against the A's in his first start. But in his second start, I think he threw it, he wasn't nearly as effective and struggled to throw strikes.


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[Assistant] We'll see. Right now they're in the fifth. Nobody on, one out. Still no score? Still no score. Wow.


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[Assistant] I wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that that, you know, it's always interesting to watch a team, watch a player go against a team that gave up on them. Yes.


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[Assistant] I think he's done a really good job in center field. That's not just any position.


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[Assistant] Like that's a really, really difficult position to play. And outside of a ball early on in the first game against Seattle.


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[Assistant] I forgot how good Jimenez was last year. They showed his highlight reel when they were talking about his gold glove before the game was presented. Platinum, yeaah.


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[Assistant] And I agree with that, I'll second that. But I think that Jimenez with his size and his range would be just as good at short as he is at second.


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[Assistant] I love throwing left handed. Like whenever I go bowling, I like to throw a couple of frames left handed. I also like to play catch left handed.


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[Assistant] I had said a couple of weeks ago, I would take Brendan Rice in the third round and you would say, oh, he's mocked fifth or sixth round. I still think that's way too low for him.


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[Assistant] I feel like he's driving the bus on the, yea linebackers are a dime a dozen. And they're not.


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[Assistant] And I still, if I'm prioritizing the groups, I'm still going line.


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[Assistant] Back-end, middle. But I think the gap between two and three and prioritizing is way too big.


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[Assistant] Like, I think it's decidedly you gotta be strong up front. I think that is by far the most important unit. But then I think the back end and the middle are


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[Assistant] Close, I'm still going to prioritize the back end because it's a passing league, but with the advent of the tight ends running routes and matching up against linebackers, you can be exposed real quickly if your linebackers suck. Yeah, absolutely. And so with that in mind, by the way, of all the players that were drafted, and what do they have, six picks?


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[Assistant] Five. Five picks. So fifteen players were drafted in our mocks. We didn't have the same guy. Nobody had the same guy.


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[Assistant] Yeah, throw mine up there. I want wide receiver. I want Ricky Pearsall just because, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna be very upfront here. The talent that I know coming out,


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[Assistant] So I feel really comfortable assessing the skillset of the Big Ten players and of the players from the Blue Chips at the other schools. I did see Ricky Pearsall enough to say I think he can get separated, I think he can be an NFL wide receiver.


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[Assistant] He was available, I don't know if he was available for you guys, I took him. He was, cause I looked at that. Yeah.


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[Assistant] I have to factor in who his dad is. You know? So I think that that's a big part of it. Also,


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[Assistant] Uh, Jerry's work ethic was, was like Walter Payton-esque. Um, he was very famous for taking care of his body and playing into his 40s.


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[Assistant] And so I just, I just tend to think that that is a trait that's passed down. Work ethic. And so I like that. Because that's immeasurable. You don't know what that is. Unless you just interview everybody. My third, my second pick in the third round.


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[Assistant] I have to be honest with you, I don't know Cedric Grey. If he walked in right now with his uniform, I'd say, who are you? I don't know him. He was the highest linebacker available in my mind. So I said, I as a fan and as an observer think that the Browns have


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[Assistant] Undervalued that position too, too much. I understand you're devaluing it, but I think we've just been like, oh yeah, and who do we got to play linebacker? Yeah, bring those three in. They're our linebackers. I don't think, I don't think you win that way.


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[Assistant] So I went with the highest available linebacker because I do think those are areas, two areas of greatest need.


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[Assistant] That is a real, real weakness. So with picks 5 or 3 and 4 in the 5th and 6th round, I went with a couple of linemen. Again, if these guys spit in my face, I wouldn't know who they were. They were the highest available linemen, so I took them.


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[Assistant] Harold from Michigan, I just remember watching him and him being an impact guy, uhm, when I did watch Michigan, and I went back to linebackers, so I'm really big on, there are three weaknesses to me, wide receiver, line, offensive line, and linebackers. So I loaded up, and


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[Assistant] I want to ask you a question. So in all your years doing this and in talking to general managers and experts that have covered the draft, because I really think of all of the NFL.


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[Assistant] Experts. The guys that I put the most stock in are the draft guys because they're so immersed in it and it's kind of one lane to be in. They don't have to be, you know.


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[Assistant] Do you find that there is a more predominant theory or a more successful theory between best available and drafting to your needs?


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[Assistant] Mel Kuyper famously tells the story that years ago the Baltimore Ravens offered him a job. He's a Baltimore guy. And it was really, it was a difficult decision for him. But he said ultimately I'm undefeated in this chair.


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[Assistant] And it's, I don't even, it's so close, I don't know that I can say, oh, and to me it's definitively draft need. But I do feel like...


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[Assistant] There is a slight advantage in both success rate in reality and also what the experts think you should do. It's more, I believe, and I don't know what it is, 55, 45, but I do believe that drafting to need and not best available is both the most


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[Assistant] Maybe they take a quarterback. I like that you said it depends on the team because the answer that I got from the Kipers and all of the experts, McShea, what they used to say is when you're at the bottom,


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[Assistant] You need everything. So you're just going to take the best available. Because odds are, whatever position that player plays, you need one.


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[Assistant] The two hits that Cutter Crawford has allowed. There's two outs in the top of the sixth, he's at first base.


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[Assistant] I think that in the NFL, I always look at it as a maze. And the middle is where you want to get. And there's...


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[Assistant] Maybe just one path to it. Maybe there's other paths along the way. If you go this way, you still have a chance of getting back to the right road. But when you change


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[Assistant] Your owner, your leadership group, and I mean general manager and head coach. You change your point on the horizon. And it's like you're going somewhere and you're three years into that destination.


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[Assistant] And then they rip up the road map and you say, nope, you gotta go back to go. You gotta start all over again and try to get back to where you were because more so in the NFL.


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[Assistant] You're building on every single year what you've done the year before and there has to be a point on the horizon. We're gonna be a defensive, uh, focus team with a heavy emphasis of a run. Okay, so that's the Steelers. It, it, it, traditionally, historically.


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[Assistant] Because there are cycles to the NFL. There are times when, because the run game was working so much in the 70s,


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[Assistant] Defenses started being built to stop that.


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[Assistant] And then the teams had to pivot. Okay, we see what you're doing over there on that side of the chessboard.


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[Assistant] Now we're gonna be a team that throws the ball more. And I think we're in the middle of a pivot right now.


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[Assistant] I think that offense got so far ahead of the defense, and that's just, go back and look at the scores of the playoff games from three years ago. These teams were scoring in the 40s.


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[Assistant] That everybody in the league said, okay, now we're going to focus on defense.


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[Assistant] And you started seeing teams draft and build their teams more around their defense. And Patrick Mahomes looked human last year.


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[Assistant] He wasn't scoring 45 points a game. His defense was lights out. The Chargers, who a couple of years ago were like a pinball machine.


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[Assistant] Their offense took it because the defense has made a big leap forward. So...


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[Assistant] You have to zig when they zag. And I thought Bill Belichick for the most part in his career often times set the trends and at the same time was responding to them on the other side of the ball. Because he knew what was coming. Because they all followed him.


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[Assistant] And when he made the tight end a position of focus, what did the rest of the NFL do?


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[Assistant] How are we going to compete? And thus, Travis Kelce was born. And now you're seeing stars there. So when you're changing your leadership every three years,


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[Assistant] You're perhaps changing your point on the horizon. Because if I asked you, what are the Browns about?


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[Assistant] So they're not necessarily about running the ball. They're not necessarily about throwing the ball. It's kind of been a hodgepodge because they wash, rinse and repeat every three years.


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[Assistant] So I like the fact that Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski are here for a minute and I really will like the fact if we see these extensions that everybody tells me don't worry they're coming, so I'm not worried. But if they don't come, I'm very worried. Because now you're so late in the cycle, what do you do now? Well, I mean,


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[Assistant] Had that stability been there and they had been changing coaches like underwear.


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[Assistant] What if, and I know this is a big if, but you had a caliber of Phil Jackson, Pat Reilly, even Spolstra, who has become


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[Assistant] A clone of Pat Riley because he was a sponge to Pat Riley. Yea. But like, I often wonder, had the right head coach been in place, maybe LeBron never leaves and he's got five.


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[Assistant] And first of all, anyone that thought that was going to work, that was Dan showing faith loyalty and Michigan loyalty.


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[Assistant] We gotta do reads, but uh, Guardians now in the seventh still scoreless. The message here is to Major League Baseball. These guys don't want to play at 11am in the morning.


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[Assistant] These gift bags, listen, hey man, when I retire, I might get a gift bag. Like, they might give me, I might get a gift bag when I'm done.


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[Assistant] Listen, I'm just impressed by even, even the guys, when they get two strikes, they find them places to put it in play. So true. Right. They just very well say, you know, I just, you watch them and the more and more they play that energy level, I think there's a little bit of buzz. People stop me G Bush.


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[Assistant] I'm thinking of the St. Browns. Guardians. Hey, the Guardians. I'm thinking about going to two or three games.


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[Assistant] It told me, you know what I found out? That they wasn't no sucker deluxes. Like, they came out and was really physical.


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[Assistant] And they, they showed that we will not be pushed around. We will not be, we will not be bullied. We will not be punk.


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[Assistant] And the thing that really sits home with me and hit home with me was, when you look at Isaac O'Cora,


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[Assistant] And Isaac O'Coro as Wagner. I told you about Wagner. This guy, he's a goon. He, listen, he's a European runway model that wants to be a goon. We will not be bullied by him. And Isaac O'Coro gave him that shove in the back to let him know.


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[Assistant] Playoff time. George, George Yang. Yeah, I like the minivans. I like his energy. He got that technical foul. Thank you. And you know what? I like those guys being the mouthpiece for Jared Allen and Evan Mobley. I thought Mobley and Allen.


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[Assistant] In the score sheet or the threes, it, it was the fact that the, the, if you look at


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[Assistant] Game one against the Knicks, game one against the Magic, we said all year, we don't care, nothing that happens during the regular season, we want to see it in the playoffs. The thing we got was physicality, energy, and effort, and that's the way they're going to have to play the rest of the series and further when they move on, J.


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[Assistant] He had 10 rebounds, I think, in the second half. We'll look at some of the coverages, uhm, that they put on him. I think some of the coverages was different. They were switching it a little bit different. Mikey showed us that. I think, I think also though, uhm,


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[Assistant] You know, when, when the Cavs have, uh, Kevin Love, they used to say Kevin Love's first quarter, he's getting it every time. We want to feed him. Get him involved. Get involved.


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[Assistant] I think they found a mismatch they had, and I wanted to see them get the ball back down to them a little bit more. Now, in the course of the game, and in the first, you know, first, uh, you know, game in the playoffs, sometimes the flow of the game gets you a little bit. Sometimes, you know, you still want to get Donovan going, you still want to get Darius going. And I can't be, I ain't gonna be too mad, Earl, because


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[Assistant] I think that they, they did a good job of saying, if you look at the big three, you had Allen, you had, uh, you had, uh, Mobley, and you did have, uh, Donovan Mitchell, who put up really good numbers, right? So I can't be mad. They did get three out of the four involved. Sometimes it's the flow of the game.


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[Assistant] Where Orlando, the game was a little nip-tuck. They had, I think they really did a good job of slowing it down. They had fought back. Uhm, and Orlando's a really good defensive team. I think, and I tweeted this, I said, well, this is the time where Donovan Mitchell


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[Assistant] Has to put the cape on. There's certain little spurts of the game where you're playing a team.


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[Assistant] And you may be favorite in that series and that team may be fighting tough and fighting difficult. And if you watch it all around the NBA, I think I watched every single, uh, at least the first round, first game of every single, uh, game in the NBA playoffs. In every, in every one of those series.


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[Assistant] You got a big time superstar, uhm, that steps up and says, up, we down, you know, the game got down to a four point game, let me get a couple buckets and put it back up to eight.


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[Assistant] I, I, I noticed that they was letting them play out the Suns game and the Timberwolves. I thought they let them play in the Clippers versus, uh, who did the Clippers play? Mavericks. Mavericks. I thought they let them play in that game. I, I think they're setting it up in game one.


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[Assistant] It's about the team that comes out and understands, like, listen, we want to bring it to them. So, A, if we get a couple of fouls early, so what? But I put the onus on the ref to call the foul. And I thought they did a good job of understanding that moment.


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[Assistant] Good, good. Now, there's one thing I will say, uhm, that I think the Cavs will want to button up. It's, now,


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[Assistant] Let me get, don't get it twisted. Orlando is a very good defensive team. So you're going to have, I think they kicked up the on the ball, uh, pressure.


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[Assistant] Um, you know, especially with Jalen Suggs, I think he was giving, he was in, somebody said he was in Darius Garland's back pockets for a little bit of the game. 18th turnover of his rough. I thought, you know, I thought a person who really dealt


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[Assistant] I thought he had a very difficult time bringing the ball in. It just seemed like from the get go he wasn't, he couldn't get into form and he didn't look like he didn't have that like,


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[Assistant] You know, he was ready to go a little bit, but I will give him credit. He did rebound the basketball well from the guard position, and that's one of the things that you gonna have to do.


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[Assistant] When you are, uh, you know, nine rebounds there, when you, that's a big boost to get those tough rebounds, especially from a defensive team. There's one or five from three.


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[Assistant] I always think it like this, you're gonna have to look at these two in tandem.


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[Assistant] JB's gonna have to, uh, figure out who's having the hot in hand. Isaac O'Coro, Max Drews.


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[Assistant] I look at those guys as combined two players. Uhm, you may, you may not get a good night from one of them, but if you do, you might want to ride the hot hand or if one of them is struggling quickly, bring them in. I'm still waiting for Sam Merritt will still catch fire. He only had a couple of shots missed though. So at the end of the day,


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[Assistant] But, uh, I think one thing that I would like to see and I would be really encouraged is if Darius Garland could keep that same energy he had at the last inning of the fourth quarter. He had a three go down, um, he was able to hit a couple baskets in a row, and in this league,


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[Assistant] You don't want to let stars or shooters get they feel because they could carry that over and start having some good vibes. So hopefully those points carry over in game two where you can get off to a fast start.


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[Assistant] No, you know, I think the way you gotta look at it when you talk about playoff basketball is by any means necessary. Sometimes you gonna get some buckets from a lot of guys, you gonna ask in the playoffs to get some, some, uh, you know, production from everybody.


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[Assistant] You're gonna need to get it from, some days it's gonna be Mobley, some days it's gonna be Karis LaVert, some days Max Drew's gotta step up, Niang, uh, so on and so forth. I think what he did,


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[Assistant] He was the catalyst for what they wanted to do and he set it up in a way because we've talked about Evan Mobley hitting threes. When you come out and hit two straight three pointers and he's the four or five guy, now that changes the way that Orlando has to guard you. Now you gotta pick your poison. If he's gonna stretch the four like that,


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[Assistant] Uhm, and then when they run pick and roll with him, now there's an option for Evan Mobley to pick and pop. Now he can pick and he can kind of pop, or if they want to switch that, he can get a little man on him and now you can go to work down low. So it's set up the way the Cavs wanted to really work.


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[Assistant] And when he's able to hit that, it gives Jared Allen more opportunity to get offensive rebounds because he has more space or to get the ball down and work down low.


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[Assistant] You know, he hit those two threes and kind of set the tone for what they was trying to do. And I think off of that, you started to see Donovan Mitchell have a little more space. You started to see other guys have a little more space to drive and kick.


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[Assistant] Uhm, in terms of what are we gonna do coming out in the second half? It's just, it's just about, I think Donovan and Darius.


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[Assistant] Understanding what they want to do, right? In this game, Donovan was like, okay, it's kind of stagnant a little bit. I think I need to take over. But in other games, they may come out and say, look, hey, Evan,


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[Assistant] Like, he, he doesn't... It's kinda like he doesn't, you know, he doesn't have...


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[Assistant] The cheese is not a traditional, like, three. Like, you know, if you're a three, LeBron and KD or something, you can get the ball and you can take it.


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[Assistant] 23-12, two blocks. I take it. And he shoots about...


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[Assistant] Maybe 32, 33% behind the arc. I think all of that is stuff that we would take.


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[Assistant] He's a proverbial, he's with the over-cliche X factor.


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[Assistant] He's the guy, he's the guy, so say for instance, he's the guy you play to Cleveland Cavaliers, and you're like, okay, well what do we gotta stop when we play to Cleveland Cavaliers? Well we know who they got in Donovan Mitchell.


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[Assistant] And it starts with him. And it starts with him. Okay, we, we, Jared Allen, he's a, he's a hustle guy, put back guy, energy, we, we just don't need to let him get 20 rebounds, right? And then you say, okay, well, Darius Garland, he's slight of frame. We need to be on him in his body. We need to be pushing him. We need to be physical with him.


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[Assistant] But the guy that you, that unlocks all of that is, if Evan Mobley is killing you, then it opens, you can't be physical with Darius Garley, you gotta play him one on one. And now Jared Allen might get 20 rebounds, cause he's, he's, he's operating like that. He makes everyone better. Everybody, so.


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[Assistant] Yeah, so if he, they get to get to that, Kobe Altman's prize might be right. If they could get Mowbly right.


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[Assistant] So, so JB has to make him aware of that and, uh, Jared Allen, when he sees that switch, they could, he could call it out and then he has to...


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[Assistant] You know what's so funny, Mike? Back in the day when I was in college, we used to do that same move. We'd be on the dance floor dancing and all of a sudden a girl switch, you'd be like, oh you didn't even know I was dancing with you.


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[Assistant] I'm looking at it, uhm, from a standpoint of, I wanna, I'm gonna get...


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[Assistant] Uh, Darius Garland, uh, I want to get him back flowing. I want, I would move him off the ball a little bit. If I'm, if I'm running with Donovan Mitchell and Darius and Donovan in the same backcourt,


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[Assistant] I want to roll with Donovan as the main ball handler. I want to see some backside action. I want to see some plays where Darius Garland can come off some screens and get some open shots. I don't necessarily believe that you have to have him at the point of attack.


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[Assistant] And two guys blitzing him and him getting beat up a little bit. Uhm, that's fine for him to do that when Donovan is on the bench getting rest.


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[Assistant] But I think him as well as Max Struse, they need to do a better job of getting some clean looks for them. That's out of the timeouts, whether that's, you know, coming off screens, whether it's coming off pin downs. I want to see those guys come off some, and get some easy shots without having to go, uh, you know, one on five and look to see if they can, you know, get to the rack or dish off. So that, and then, uhm, the next thing I want to see,


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[Assistant] In this game is, you already know, it's going to tell me a lot about the energy level. Think about it. Are the Cavs going to be focused and say, listen,


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[Assistant] We beat them the first game, but if they come out here with a split, now we got a young team going home hungry, thirsty, and with a large crowd that's ready to get after it. So I wanna see how they come out. The first five, ten minutes of the game, you gotta come out and you gotta make it be known that Orlando, you guys are going home 0-2.


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[Assistant] And this game is not going to be pretty for you. So, so the energy, the effort, the intensity, and then when you get them down, bury them. Cause one thing that we haven't talked about is, Donovan is about 75, 80%.


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[Assistant] We want that rest. How much, how good would it be for, for, for Donovan Mitchell? Darius Garland looks like his back is ailing him just a little bit.


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[Assistant] How good would it be if you could get up out of here with a sweep and get some time off and rest your legs a little bit? So you have to start thinking about little things like that. Rest, make sure you come out on top, Jay, because I think if they can bury them in this game, you'll see some of that confidence and that luster go away.


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[Assistant] They need, like, and I know a lot of people think


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[Assistant] That we tuffle in Darius Garland or whatever. And the people though have even hinted to that we have some sort of...


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[Assistant] Agenda on Darius Garland. The reason we talk about Darius Garland so much is we understand that the Cavs are not going to be able to win certain games if they don't have Darius Garland giving you 20. We need to pencil him in.


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[Assistant] For 20. Cause we just got talked about the role players. We don't know what we're getting from Struce or Mero or Niang. We don't know what, we can't pencil that into the playoffs from game to game what they're gonna get.


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[Assistant] What you get from them, especially on the road, is a bonus. But from the guys, the main dudes, it's the two guards. The core four. The core four, right? And more so, the guys who have the ball. Darius Garland is traditionally a 23.


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[Assistant] We can deal with two. This is, you know, these games come down to possessions, especially late in games. We can't throw the ball away, and we gotta know, and he's gonna have to be aggressive. When we go to Orlando, we talk about kinda looking ahead a little bit. They gotta take care of business tonight, obviously. But when you get to Orlando,


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[Assistant] He has to be super uber aggressive. If he goes 0 for 30, who cares? On the road, your stars have to be aggressive and you live in, and you live and die with what they gonna do.


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[Assistant] I don't know, that's tough. I think they get, I think their final score 102, 89.


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[Assistant] Please tell me what's gonna happen. Listen, first and foremost, there is no other choice that you should be taking Andrew Barry other than a wide receiver.


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[Assistant] Namely because Amari Cooper, guess what? You don't know what he's doing next year. You might pay him, you might not. Elijah Moore, you might pay him, you might not. Chances are you might not. David Bell is a guy.


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[Assistant] And, and, and your boy Cedric Tillman is a guy until proven otherwise. I can't keep coming in here and talking about his body is big. Super pause. But I, you know, I can't just keep coming here and talking about Cedric Tillman. These prospects!


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[Assistant] Kian Coleman, Troy Franklin, Xavier LeGette, and Ricky Pearsall are better than Elijah Moore right now. Today. Wow. Today. Kian Coleman, six, this dude is six foot five. Say that again. These guys are better than Elijah Moore today. Xavier LeGette better than him today. Right now.


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[Assistant] Now, my thing is this. When I watched Elijah Moore play last year, he was not a difference maker, was he? No, he was not. They tried to make him the second come out of Percy Harvey. We're going to give him our versus. No, no, no, no. Tyrus was the leader of that game.


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[Assistant] No. He was, he was serviceable. They probably are not going to bring him back. But you telling me Troy Franklin and Xavier LeGette can't play today? Sure they will. And by the way, you heard what, you heard what Kevin Stefanski said. He said, we're going to be aggressive and in a big way. 640 yards and they play 100 games.


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[Assistant] I like him, but you said they got a third, a fifth, they got a couple fives, right?


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[Assistant] Yeah, I could see them moving a couple fives or a five and a six. Hey, they could, you know what, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm hyperbole. I'm the, I'm the Duke of New York. They could have every one of them, fifties, sixties rap. It's all of them. You want them? Take them. You get the two fives or two six. This is like, this is, this, you're going to get a t-shirt. So you're talking about moving up into


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[Assistant] Them pigs that he had, they ain't makin' a team.


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[Assistant] This defense attacker, we, we tried to see Akiika. Why we gonna take another defense attacker when we assuming he can't play?


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[Assistant] No, you're right. We just took another D fact. So I'm gonna get up and get a D tackle to sit in behind Siaki Ika. No, I need somebody that's gonna be able to get downfield, catch the football and be part of this, this Deshaun Watson passing attack.


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[Assistant] I don't know they might restructure some people. They may bring them back. I don't know what kind of stockpile. I didn't get that memo, but it, I mean,


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[Assistant] They both have great years, not good years, great years. They got, you got to ask Deshaun too because he got to get some. I like what they.


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[Assistant] It ain't really disrespectful. It's disrespectful. I think it's like, alright.


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[Assistant] I will say this. I mean, this is not his first knee surgery.


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[Assistant] And he tore multiple ligaments. Matter of fact, he tore so many ligaments, they had to do two separate surgeries on his knee. So...


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[Assistant] It is Nick Chubb, and if anybody else can do it, it is Nick Chubb. And I will say one of the reasons why I think he will come back good, and I think he will come back competitive, and Jay can speak to this. One of the first things that they want to do when you have an ACL surgery is make sure


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[Assistant] And when you look at his hamstrings and his quads, you just go back and look how he squats. And when he squats, he squats below parallel. He's squatting


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[Assistant] Big weight, he, he, he didn't have much atrophy in terms of


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[Assistant] What his quad strength and his ham strength, strength are, which is, is going to protect you from those sudden cuts, those, it, it, it gives you a little more, uh, shock absorbing when you, when you're moving and you're cutting. And that's the thing that we talk about with him.


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[Assistant] It's his vision, it's his jump cuts, it's his ability to see backside and put his foot in the ground and get back two, three holes backside and make a guy mix. He, you know, those are what makes Nick Chubb special.


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[Assistant] And when you're doing these lists, what people are thinking about is...


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[Assistant] He's a guy that you can very rarely tackle one on one. He's elusive, he's powerful, and he can run away from you.


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[Assistant] When you got a knee injury with that many ligaments, you're questioning whether or not he still is going to be Nick Chubb. Now that's fair to say, the day that had him outside of the top ten, I would say you crazy, but at four, I think that's just all injury, nothing to do with his skill set. I think that's what they're worried about, Jay.


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[Assistant] I'll give you two names. Marshawn Lattimore.


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[Assistant] I don't know if people remember how great he was, if you were a historian of the SEC and how he was dominant at South Carolina. He was, he was supposed to be that type of guy. Uhm, Deremey Fadden.


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[Assistant] What's supposed to be that type of guy. Take a look at it, and I think always remember, and my thing is, remember how good Todd Gurley was.


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[Assistant] Gurley was thousand yard, receiving thousand yard, 1200 yards. He just, he, he, you know, you know, Todd Gurley is not even 30 years old. I know, but they ran his doors off. They did. But that's how it is with knees. When you get a knee injury and the thing that, and you don't want to put this on nobody, but it's, it's the, it's the,


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[Assistant] Degenerative factor. When they go in multiple times, right?


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[Assistant] You start to see the cartilage. You start to see the swelling. The scar tissue. The scar tissue that you can't do anything about. You know, your knee swells after practice and it's, that's the most frustrating thing to anybody. I mean, I've had two ACLs, I've torn my PCL and my patellar tendon. It's just the fact that you can't.


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[Assistant] You can't play back, you can't go the back to back stuff that you used to do. You can't, you have to take days off. And it's just, it's frustrating because


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[Assistant] You're not getting better than you're just maintaining that level of play because you can't practice and sometimes you can't, you know, you might be week to week. So my thing is I hope he doesn't have any of that right now. The great thing about it is I think the bronze did a really good enough job. And by the way, we just talked about the draft.


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[Assistant] I wouldn't, I wouldn't throw it out the window that they draft a runabout.


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[Assistant] I think they, you know, when you got a guy like, uh, you know, uh, Nick Chubb, you don't want to force him back. Hey, week six, put him on that, put him on the pup list and figure out what you can do. I wouldn't force him back.


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[Assistant] I think, to me, when you were saying that, it brought me back to, you know, playing baseball in high school. I played three sports, so by the time


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[Assistant] You know, we got around the baseball season. I was playing basketball. So you know, as you know, playing baseball, those guys are inside hitting already starting December. They're ready. They're ready to go. I get off the, I get off the basketball court and I need to see some pitches. So the first year I play, I'm like, okay, well listen, I need to see as many pitches as possible.


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[Assistant] So I would work the count, get, I'm like, okay, I got the speed of things. I'm ready to go. That first year I played as a freshman, I've hit 415. The next year came around and my dad said, you know what? They're going to change that up on you.


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[Assistant] He's like, you see the difference between somebody that's a good hitter and a mediocre hitter is what are you going to do? You can hit fastballs, but what are you going to do when the breaking pitches come?


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[Assistant] They would show me an early fastball and I would take it.


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[Assistant] But then the rest of the, the rest of the count, I'm, I'm facing off speed pitches and stuff off the outer thirds or inside of the plate. Nothing good to hit. And so my dad, you know, who has been my baseball coach since ever, he's like, he listen, sometimes when you batting,


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[Assistant] Best pitch you gonna see is the first one. And you might want to jump on that first pitch. And that was not our philosophy.


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[Assistant] But, but I had to start becoming a good first ball hitter because I knew that I was going to see until I was able to start hitting the curve balls. Then when you get older, you get to be a junior or senior, you can look for a curve ball. You get sneaky. You like, ah, this guy's coming with the curve. But I think the biggest, the biggest thing that I see between